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00:01:31.000Susan, I want to play this piece of tape here of the Palm Beach sheriff basically dismissing the idea, well, everyone did their job and there wasn't as secure of a perimeter because he's not the president.
00:01:42.000Very kind of similar type tones to Butler, but obviously a little bit more.
00:01:47.000They're almost, they want us to celebrate the fact that there's not a secure perimeter.
00:02:06.000And at this level that he is at right now, he's not the sitting president.
00:02:11.000If he was, we would have had this entire golf course around him.
00:02:14.000But because he's not, the security is limited to the areas that the Secret Service deems possible.
00:02:21.000So, I would imagine that the next time he comes at a golf course, there'll probably be a little bit more people around the perimeter, but the Secret Service did exactly what they should have done.
00:02:31.000They provided exactly what the protection should have been, and their agent did a fantastic job.
00:02:37.000Susan, what changes, if any, happened to his detail after the first assassination attempt when he was shot?
00:03:02.000So we've since then had a lot more assets.
00:03:06.000I'm told by my sources in the Secret Service community who were just coming forth, very, it was very nice to have so many people to talk to, but it was extremely busy yesterday.
00:03:17.000They're saying that his, that it's just below, it can't really say it's equal to a sitting president.
00:03:26.000Otherwise, like, like Rick Bradshaw said, the sheriff there said it would have been surrounding there would have been streets that were shut down around the golf course.
00:03:37.000There would have been a much more fortified perimeter, but the problem.
00:03:42.000What I'm hearing here is there's a balance to be struck and part of this has to do with Donald Trump.
00:03:48.000He did get counter snipers at Mar-a-Lago.
00:03:51.000The problem, there was a big problem with Mar-a-Lago and his Donald Trump detail itself for years has been asking for more assets for Mar-a-Lago.
00:04:01.000They finally gave him 4 million, but they did it piecemeal over time, which is a normal thing that the Secret Service does that's irritating to the people requesting the additional assets.
00:04:11.000Because if they're threat-based, they should be quickly done as quickly as possibly installed.
00:04:18.000But since Butler, my questions are exactly, is he getting a counter-surveillance unit?
00:04:42.000I'm told that it's definitely shy of the sitting president, but how they fortify these golf courses that Trump, you know, wants, he owns, and he wants to go to with a bit of, you know, interaction with people.
00:04:55.000He was there with Steve Whitkoff, his good friend and donor.
00:04:59.000You know, it's kind of a balance to be struck.
00:05:01.000After this, I just wrote a piece this morning saying, you know, there has to be a reckoning.
00:05:05.000Between the Trump campaign and the Secret Service on how they want to operate, how freely they're going to allow him to operate from here on out.
00:05:14.000Because we've had two assassination attempts in two months.
00:05:20.000And my question is, they've been so, you know, within the Secret Service, I'm hearing that they are launching this drone program after You know, not doing it since 2016, very resistant to any change at the Secret Service.
00:05:35.000And the technology, like Dan Bongino likes to say, it's yesterday's technology tomorrow.
00:05:40.000They're really bad on embracing new technology.
00:05:43.000And they're now, though, Ron Rowe, the acting director, has promised that he's going to institute drones and he wants to get the program up and running.
00:05:51.000So was there a drone that helped them find that Ruth, Ryan Ruth in the bushes there with an AK-47.
00:06:01.000I do have that question in Secret Service.
00:06:28.000No, I think that it's whether that decision on the Biden administration is whether to give them or not protection, and then the Secret Service decides what level.
00:06:39.000And Kimberly Cheadle, who resigned in disgrace, in part because of this decision, treated him as a former president and didn't give him, I think, I think he has more than Kamala has right now.
00:06:53.000Wait, the president can't override the Secret Service and say, give him more agents?
00:06:58.000There is actually a bicameral organization that determines that in addition to Biden, that actually Speaker Johnson is involved in as well.
00:07:09.000But yes, Biden says, whether you get it or not, and the Secret Service says, we always says that it's the level that you're provided is threat-based, but when it came to Donald Trump, he broke the mold.
00:07:23.000You know, he has tens of thousands of people.
00:07:24.000He's not a former president like President Obama, that the threat level decreases when you're out of office.
00:07:30.000He's the first person running, president, former president running, again, challenging a sitting president.
00:07:36.000In our lifetime now, of course, the sitting vice president.
00:08:05.000When he goes to the golf course, does Donald Trump get the same assets as President Biden did when he went to Wilmington, when he played at Wilmington?
00:08:19.000So tell us more about the agent who spotted him in the tree line.
00:08:23.000Well, we know only that they spotted the barrel of the AK-47 and they started shooting.
00:08:29.000Now, I always hesitate to say who shot first.
00:08:35.000The local law enforcement agents, the sheriffs there, definitely said they gave Great kudos to the Secret Service for, for shooting first and going after this guy.
00:08:47.000The guy fled, but you know, other people within the Secret Service community, not me, this is not coming from me, said, well, you know, he didn't, he didn't hit his shot.
00:08:56.000So kudos for being more aggressive and, and identifying him quicker than what happened in Butler.
00:09:17.000And I want to know, you know, why they didn't have more security.
00:09:21.000Now, the reason what I'm hearing from sources is that it was considered OTR, an OTR event.
00:09:28.000And that's, you know, short in journalism, we like say off the record, right?
00:09:32.000It's similar kind of connotation with the Secret Service, but just means it wasn't on the schedule.
00:09:38.000Okay, so it's like an impromptu event that they kind of like have to,
00:09:43.000it's not like a pickup team, that's the same detail that always protects them
00:09:47.000and train together, but they kind of have to operate more loosely.
00:09:51.000And they don't plan ahead, like when they do a rally or an event.
00:09:55.000So what Dan Bongino and some of my sources said to me, Dan Bongino said it on X,
00:10:01.000and my sources were confirming it to me, The...
00:10:05.000He's losing the ability to be unpredictable because he's always playing golf at the same golf courses.
00:10:12.000So you can't treat it as an OTR anymore where it's loose security.
00:10:18.000You've got to either not do it at all, which I'm sure is not an option for Donald Trump, or you have to plan ahead a little bit more and treat it as And fortify it in a better way, because the Secret Service is definitely OTR events.
00:10:35.000It's like when Jill Biden and Joe Biden went to the Waffle House after the debate the next morning.
00:12:30.000I've talked to sources with the Secret Service who are worried that they have lowered their standards in recent years and they're not even training as much with their guns.
00:12:42.000They're not even doing as thorough a polygraph.
00:12:46.000They don't test for mental health issues.
00:12:49.000I have several Secret Service sources who are worried about an insider threat.
00:12:54.000They say that only, you know, they really only think that 25% of the Secret Service is fully capable of what they tout
00:13:03.000That's a minority opinion, of course, you know, not everyone's going to ascribe to that,
00:13:10.000but these people were in positions to see the application process. So I honestly believe
00:13:18.000that there's been a lowering of standards in the Secret Service.
00:13:22.000And the threat is so great to have two.
00:13:25.000It's so tragic and unbelievable to me that we're in this place right now, that we have two assassination attempts in two months against Donald Trump.
00:13:36.000And there's this Iranian threat bearing down that they make no secrets of it.
00:13:41.000And there's this granular report that came out from Senator Grassley about this guy, Asif Merchant, that they, Pakistani guy with ties to Iran that they arrested the day for the FBI arrested day for the Butler rally.
00:13:55.000And then he's off in previously in Iran for two weeks with the same meeting with a safe house with and talking about funding with the Islamic Revolutionary Guard for and you know, they describe it in granular detail.
00:14:14.000Is it going to be inside rally or is it going to be an outside rally?
00:14:21.000What I find deeply disturbing is that this guy, Asif Merchant, was assessing the Secret Service assets attached to Donald Trump at these rallies while they were still considering him A former president.
00:14:39.000So it opened up the vulnerability when it comes to the Iranians.
00:14:42.000Now, whether these two guys, Thomas Crooks, 20 year old Thomas Crooks, and now Ryan Roth, whether they have any type of foreign influence.
00:14:53.000We know Ryan Roth has a foreign influence.
00:14:58.000I like to see the FBI try to rule that out like they did with Thomas Crooks right away.
00:15:02.000I wasn't really satisfied with their answers because The FBI only has done one thorough briefing.
00:15:08.000Well, it wasn't even thorough with reporters about, and they said they came to the conclusion with Crooks that he didn't have any, he was acting alone and he didn't have any foreign influence.
00:15:19.000Well, you know, tell me about his travel.
00:15:37.000And then, you know, we all know that I got another source last night sending me a video that the Ayatollah Khomeini posted on his website that is an animation video of a robot drone taking, taking out Donald Trump while he was golfing.
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00:18:45.000I understand that the president asked you to host a faith event at Mar-a-Lago with pastors from around the country and really have you spearhead the faith effort for him.
00:18:55.000Tell our audience about that and why you believe that people of faith and Christians should vote for Donald Trump.
00:20:33.000And all you have to do is think back a few years to how you were doing, what your optimism level was, versus now.
00:20:45.000And ask yourself, is that a coincidence?
00:20:48.000Or is it a difference in the style of governing?
00:20:52.000These are the things that are so important for the American people to realize.
00:20:56.000And also this whole concept of somebody being anti-democratic.
00:21:03.000The people who are saying that Trump is a danger to democracy, are they not the same people who are using the justice system to persecute their political enemies?
00:21:17.000Are they not the same people who are trying to stifle freedom of speech?
00:21:27.000Are they not the same people who have the candidate for president who received not a single vote in the primaries?
00:21:37.000So I wonder who it is that is really stifling democracy.
00:21:41.000So, Dr. Carson, having worked in close proximity with President Trump as housing urban development and knowing him for quite some time, can you speak to what some Christians would say as personal grievances against President Trump?
00:21:56.000They say that I can't possibly support him because he's a sinner, so on and so forth.
00:22:01.000Can you address that head-on, Dr. Carson?
00:22:03.000I'm sure you receive that quite a lot, and I think you're uniquely positioned to counter that.
00:22:09.000Well, first of all, The only perfect person ever to live was Jesus and he was crucified.
00:22:16.000So I'm not sure that any of us are in a position to be the judge and jury.
00:22:22.000But there's a reason that we have these sophisticated brains.
00:22:26.000For instance, if you had a very severe disease that could be cured by a very talented surgeon, would you rather have the surgeon who has poor bedside manner That's why we have a brain so we can figure those kinds of things out, looking at the big picture.
00:22:55.000You have to really look at the policies.
00:22:59.000Rhetoric and speech, that's what politicians do.
00:23:05.000Politicians are very good at doing what is politically expedient.
00:23:10.000Going around with their finger in the air, seeing which way the wind is blowing, and then changing to adapt to it.
00:23:18.000That's not something that you're finding with Donald Trump.
00:23:21.000Now, maybe to some people's consternation, maybe they want him to change, but he's not going to.
00:24:53.000That is because there were people who preceded you, who were willing to sacrifice everything, including their lives, to give you these opportunities.
00:25:05.000So why wouldn't we want to get involved?
00:25:11.000And now looking at the second assassination attempt against Donald Trump, a friend of both of ours who, again, he was not shot at, but it definitely was an assassination attempt.
00:25:23.000The spiritual darkness that is plaguing our land.
00:25:25.000Dr. Carson, your reaction to Donald Trump yet again surviving an assassination attempt?
00:25:31.000Well, I believe, and I've told him this for years, that God is using him I told him that when I was first running against him as president, that he was going to win.
00:25:41.000Could God have a special place for him in trying to save our nation?
00:25:49.000He has the right temperament, the right personality.
00:25:52.000You know, some people may not like it, but there comes a time when being the very nicest person that you can be, Just doesn't necessarily get the job done.
00:26:10.000And like I said before, we can work on his personality later on.
00:26:59.000They will be speeded along the way to obtaining a nuclear weapon.
00:27:05.000And when they get a nuclear weapon, they're going to use it on Israel.
00:27:09.000They're not going to be restrained by the concept of mutual destruction, because they don't care if they're destroyed.
00:27:17.000Because according to their philosophy, if you're a warrior on the side of righteousness, you go to heaven and you get 72 virgins.
00:27:26.000So that's not a big deterrent for them whatsoever.
00:27:30.000But we need the kind of leadership that understands that.
00:27:35.000We need the kind of leadership that understands that if we use our liquid natural gas and supply Europe with what they need, it diminishes the power and the purse of Putin.
00:27:51.000And those are the kinds of things that prevent the aggression that we're seeing there.
00:27:56.000The moment that we're at, Dr. Carson, we need unity and we need peace and we need healing.
00:28:01.000How do we get to a place of reconciliation here?
00:28:03.000Because the temperature feels way too hot for normal Americans right now.
00:28:08.000Well, you hear some people saying, let's stop some of the rhetoric about this person being an ex Hitler and destroying America if they're elected and maybe just focus on the policy and the policy differences.
00:28:29.000Both sides need to focus on the policy.
00:28:31.000It's tempting to take jabs at your opponents and to try to denigrate them.
00:28:39.000But really, what good does that do in the long run?
00:28:42.000What we really need to do is talk about what makes the difference.
00:28:46.000Kitchen table issues for the average American.
00:28:50.000And I think that's one of the reasons that Donald Trump has seen such And increasing his support among some of the groups that traditionally did not support Republicans.
00:29:02.000And I hope we will continue to really focus on those kitchen table issues that affect everybody every day.
00:31:20.000It's very difficult for me to understand and for me to kind of sympathize with that.
00:31:25.000We need pastors and we need Christians to get on board for this fight, as you talk about in your book, the perilous fight overcoming our culture's war on the American family.
00:31:34.000Dr. Ben Carson, speak about your book and talk about if we do not get Donald Trump elected,
00:31:39.000this fight might even become more perilous.
00:31:41.000Well, before I do that, I just want to say my wife wanted me to tell you
00:31:46.000how much she enjoyed your conversation with the woke college students.
00:32:51.000Just witness the fact that whenever you're looking at television or a television series, you don't get very far into it before you're introduced to an alternative to the traditional nuclear family.
00:33:05.000Making it not only acceptable, but even preferable.
00:33:09.000Those are big issues in our culture right now.
00:33:14.000And a young person growing up, how confused can you make someone?
00:33:19.000You know, you may not be a girl and you may not be a boy.
00:33:38.000And both the liberal and the conservative think tanks both find that children raised in a traditional nuclear family do much better under all parameters than those who are raised outside of that structure.
00:33:54.000So there must be something good about it and we need to go back and re-examine the things that were going on when our country was moving forward and compare those to the things that are going on which are moving our country backwards.
00:34:09.000And one of the biggest issues, of course, is that we've tried to exclude God.
00:34:15.000When our founding document says that He is the one from where our rights are derived, when we throw Him out, when we throw out the Ten Commandments, when we throw out any gauges for the sense of morality, what happens to a society like that when every man becomes his own measuring stick of what is moral and good?
00:34:36.000You see the same kinds of things that we're seeing?
00:34:40.000The massive crime and cruelty that's going on to our fellow man.
00:34:45.000We've reached a point where instead of love your neighbor, our management is cancel your neighbor if they have a different yard sign.
00:35:06.000Dr. Carson, thank you for your leadership and your guidance and your wisdom.
00:35:10.000Just a reminder, we have Dr. Ben Carson coming to Phoenix, Arizona for an amazing Turning Point Action event at Dream City Church on October 2nd.
00:35:19.000Dr. Carson, we hope to really fill that out and to really make it big for you.
00:35:23.000Hopefully we'll have thousands and thousands of people there.
00:35:26.000And that is right before early voting in Arizona, Dr. Carson.