The Charlie Kirk Show - 'This Is Messed Up' — Biden Regime Tackles MiSiNfOrMaTiOn

00:00:01.000 Hey, everybody, today Charlie Kirk from the Ministry of Truth is implemented.

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00:01:31.000 We certainly weren't the first show, but we were definitely part of kind of this amplification of calling Joe Biden's new DHS disinformation board the Ministry of Truth.

00:01:41.000 If you just type in Ministry of Truth to Google, I mean, there's like an article every five minutes.

00:01:48.000 It is uniform messaging.

00:01:49.000 I have to say, this has been one of the most surprising messaging wins for a conservative movement that I've seen in recent memory.

00:01:58.000 You type in Ministry of Truth, it's one after the other after the other.

00:02:01.000 Joe Biden's disinformation board, likened to Orwell's Ministry of Truth, Fox News, Critics Slam, Biden's Ministry of Truth.

00:02:07.000 One after the other, again, we didn't, I saw it somewhere, people were saying it, but it's kind of become this consolidated messaging, and it's totally true.

00:02:13.000 So what is it?

00:02:14.000 Well, on Wednesday, right after Elon Musk has purchased Twitter, the Biden administration, Department of Homeland Security, announced the creation of a disinformation governance board.

00:02:25.000 And what they say is to counter the spread of misinformation related to Homeland Security.

00:02:31.000 Now, of course, what they mean is ideas they don't like, ideas that don't fit the orthodoxy.

00:02:37.000 Elon Musk has tweeted in response to this, saying, quote, this is messed up.

00:02:43.000 And so in response to Elon Musk taking over Twitter, you now have Biden putting together this disinformation board.

00:02:49.000 Okay.

00:02:50.000 So the disinformation board has law enforcement capabilities.

00:02:54.000 These are people that can arrest.

00:02:55.000 They can get subpoenas.

00:02:56.000 They can surveil.

00:02:57.000 This is not some sort of board at a think tank.

00:03:00.000 These are people with badges.

00:03:02.000 These are the people with guns.

00:03:04.000 Now, to give you an idea of how serious they are about censoring and monitoring political speech, this is all kind of surrounding the idea of social media interactions.

00:03:15.000 Instead of actually having a free and open internet where the best ideas can win, and of course there will be people that spread false things, but more speech remedies the false speech, which is the way the internet was in 16 and 17, and it was awesome.

00:03:30.000 And we were able to spread good ideas and challenge bad ones and be able to interact directly with people that were part of the kind of instrumentation of the propaganda channels on the top levels of our society.

00:03:44.000 No, instead, we've had just this mass crackdown of any sort of dissenting ideas.

00:03:49.000 But now Biden puts forward this Ministry of Truth, which is an Orwellian term.

00:03:54.000 We went into that yesterday, in a direct response to Elon buying Twitter.

00:03:59.000 So, just 48 hours after Elon buys Twitter, this pops up.

00:04:02.000 Do you think for a second that the Democrat Party wouldn't have let have you for your free speech back without putting up a fight?

00:04:10.000 We knew that.

00:04:10.000 Now, the person running this entire operation is a woman by the name of Nina Jankowicz.

00:04:18.000 Now, Nina Jankowicz is 33 years old.

00:04:21.000 I obviously have nothing against her age.

00:04:22.000 I'm five years younger than her.

00:04:24.000 But I look at her and I look at her videos and I feel like I know her.

00:04:28.000 I feel like I know her because I grew up with people like her in the same sort of age demographic that approach life in a very similar fashion. 1.00

00:04:39.000 So, we're going to play some of her videos, both that are like horrifying and hilarious, not hilarious because they're meant to be, but because she's a total fool and she's a buffoon. 0.97

00:04:47.000 But she kind of has a very sarcastic, ironic, and snarky approach to life. 0.99

00:04:56.000 She's kind of a self-described Harry Potter nerd.

00:04:59.000 And, you know, you kind of the way she communicates, I say, wow, I know exactly kind of the type of person that she is.

00:05:07.000 Everything is kind of like a snough, soft joke.

00:05:10.000 And there's kind of a smugness, there's an attitude.

00:05:13.000 There's kind of like a, there might not be anything that's true, but I might as well make fun of it.

00:05:17.000 Now, I can't remember the philosopher who said this, but we'll look it up and we'll find out, which is that irony, the fixation on irony is the only way that the unhappy are able to make sense of the world.

00:05:30.000 You think about it, what is irony?

00:05:31.000 Irony is the identification of things that don't fit, right?

00:05:36.000 Irony is the inability for things like you could go through one thing after the other.

00:05:42.000 An ironic thing would be Joe Biden lecturing you about being spry and young, right?

00:05:47.000 Like that would be ironic, okay?

00:05:49.000 And so the unhappy and the people that do not have their soul at peace, they fixate relentlessly on the things that don't make sense.

00:05:58.000 Ironic is the only thing that can make sense to the people that do not find beauty and truth in the world or things worth fighting for.

00:06:07.000 And so enter front and center this woman by the name of Nina Jankowitz, who is the smug kind of hairy, self-described Harry Potter nerd, the snarky person who finds whatever, like I wouldn't be talking about her except for the fact she has a badge now. 0.96

00:06:22.000 She can arrest people. 0.52

00:06:24.000 She's the head of this entire board of the federal government of the United States.

00:06:28.000 So it's no longer a joke.

00:06:29.000 So what is, let's go watch this one.

00:06:31.000 This is cut 111.

00:06:34.000 This is Nina Jankowicz singing about censorship to the tune of super fragilized, super frag, super fragile, super catalyfragilistic espiologists.

00:06:43.000 Okay, I said it.

00:06:44.000 Cut 111.

00:06:45.000 Information laundering is really quite ferocious.

00:06:48.000 It's when a huckster takes some lies and makes them sound precocious by saying them in Congress or on mainstream outcome.

00:06:54.000 So disinformation's origins are slightly less atrocious.

00:06:59.000 Yeah, I mean, it goes on from there.

00:07:00.000 This person now is in control of your speech online.

00:07:04.000 I mean, it would be funny if she was this, I don't know, like a 21-year-old at Brown like makes a video like that.

00:07:08.000 Okay, whatever, sure.

00:07:09.000 But now she has power. 0.99

00:07:10.000 Okay.

00:07:11.000 It continues.

00:07:12.000 Here's Nina Jankowitz, Cut 88, floating the idea of a color revolution is a good thing. 0.72

00:07:18.000 Play Cut 88.

00:07:20.000 Putin's narratives intentionally rob protesters of agency.

00:07:24.000 They discount the grievances that brought them to the streets, risking their lives, and ultimately they undermine the resulting governments.

00:07:32.000 And now we're seeing the same narrative cropping up here in the United States.

00:07:38.000 So, in short, color revolutions aren't dirty.

00:07:41.000 They're expressions of democratic will, and they should inspire us all.

00:07:46.000 Yeah, I mean, a CIA operation tried to displace a sovereignly elected Democrat leader.

00:07:50.000 That's a beautiful thing.

00:07:51.000 We need to embrace the inner displacement of the shah. 1.00

00:07:54.000 Color revolutions are something that we in the deep state of our government love.

00:07:58.000 Now, let's be very honest. 0.78

00:07:59.000 Why is it that this buffoon and Nina Jankowicz is in charge of the disinformation board? 0.99

00:08:04.000 Answer. 0.98

00:08:05.000 She's loyal to them.

00:08:07.000 The answer is: you distill everything else beside the point is that she'll do what she's told.

00:08:12.000 That's why.

00:08:12.000 I mean, who else would do a video like that saying, you know, color revolutions actually are a beautiful thing?

00:08:17.000 Woo! 0.99

00:08:19.000 Cut 112, Nina Jankowicz, who's now the head. 1.00

00:08:22.000 She's not like some random board member.

00:08:24.000 It's a 33-year-old, like smug, snarky person.

00:08:27.000 She has a badge.

00:08:28.000 I guarantee you, I'm on her list now.

00:08:30.000 And by the way, people like her hate people like me.

00:08:34.000 Hate play cut 112.

00:08:37.000 Not a champion of justice and reform in Ukraine.

00:08:41.000 And number three, as a result, the vice president delivered a message that Shokin needed to be fired and other reforms pursued if Ukraine wanted its next tranche of IMF funds and a U.S. loan guarantee.

00:08:54.000 This is called diplomacy, not extortion.

00:08:57.000 That's it.

00:08:58.000 Now you can get back to your Netflix and your Zoom happy hours and lots and lots of washing your hands.

00:09:04.000 She has a band.

00:09:06.000 Cut 92.

00:09:07.000 This is the Ministry of Truth banned.

00:09:09.000 This is the person now in charge of your disinformation governance board who could put you in prison if you commit a thought crime.

00:09:17.000 Play cut 92.

00:09:18.000 My job is change the complaint.

00:09:22.000 I have no need for human rights.

00:09:24.000 Remotely taking on each member.

00:09:27.000 Call your reps and join the violence where people try and violence.

00:09:43.000 I mean, this would be so funny if she didn't have the ability to put me in prison. 0.98

00:09:47.000 It's like, it's like central casting for like the millennial censor.

00:09:53.000 It's like the whole thing's a major cope.

00:09:55.000 She's there.

00:09:56.000 She's doing the whole like Saturday night live routine. 0.61

00:09:59.000 It's like, no, this is actually very real.

00:10:02.000 She was named executive director of the Disinformation Governance Board of the federal government of the United States, the Department of Homeland Security.

00:10:08.000 By the way, it's not like the Department of State or the Department of Defense.

00:10:10.000 They believe the true threat is within the country.

00:10:14.000 Advised the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry, of course she did.

00:10:17.000 As a part of the Fulbright Public Policy Fellowship, oversaw Russia and Belarus programs, National Democrat Institute, wrote the book, How to Lose the Information War, Russia Fake News in the Future of Conflict.

00:10:26.000 Okay.

00:10:27.000 And why does it have to be DHS?

00:10:29.000 Why do you think that the biggest threat is within?

00:10:30.000 Huh.

00:10:31.000 It's because she's loyal and she's a deeply unhappy, smug, snarky person who just wants to be relevant and wants to be able to send to her fellow millennial friends who are childless and sexless and really angry that she's done something with her life, typical type demographic of an early 30-something Ivy League Georgetown graduate.

00:10:52.000 Nina Jankowicz is the head of the disinformation board at the Department of Homeland Security.

00:10:59.000 It's hard to even believe.

00:11:00.000 You know, some people say, Charlie, you can't call the Biden team the regime.

00:11:05.000 Oh, well, they just launched a Ministry of Truth.

00:11:08.000 Play Cut 113.

00:11:09.000 This is Nina Jankowicz saying, it's plain to see that the evil inside of me is on the right.

00:11:14.000 I think she's singing or something. 0.98

00:11:16.000 This is the clown that we have running our government. 0.98

00:11:18.000 Play cut 113. 0.97

00:11:21.000 Any dolphin can see that humankind has gone insane to the point where I don't know if I'll upset the status quo if I'm poison in the water main. 0.90

00:11:35.000 Our world's filled with filth and lies.

00:11:38.000 And it's plain to see evil inside of me is on the rise.

00:11:51.000 So if she doesn't like your singing, will she put you in prison?

00:11:54.000 Like these are very honest questions.

00:11:56.000 Again, she said, evil inside of me is on the rise.

00:12:00.000 It was kind of the melody she kept on repeating.

00:12:03.000 Principal Deputy General Counsel, Jennifer Gaskell, on how misinformation is a major threat to our homeland.

00:12:08.000 What do they consider to be misinformation?

00:12:10.000 Can I ask questions about the vaccine?

00:12:12.000 How about ivermectin hydroxychloroquine?

00:12:14.000 Am I able to ask questions about Hunter Biden's laptop?

00:12:17.000 Or is that now going to be criminal in nature?

00:12:19.000 Play cut 90.

00:12:21.000 Another huge threat to our homeland is miss and disinformation.

00:12:25.000 A newer trend that we saw in the 2020 election and already in the 2022 midterms is that disinformation is being heavily targeted at Spanish-speaking voters, sparking and fueling conspiracy theories.

00:12:37.000 DHS and its components play a big role in addressing myths and disinformation in Spanish and other languages.

00:12:43.000 Can you share what steps you've taken and what future plans you have to address Spanish language miss and disinformation through department-wide approach?

00:12:52.000 Yeah, those Hispanic voters, they think there's only two genders. 0.99

00:12:55.000 What are you doing to make sure that Hispanic people believe men can become pregnant? 0.99

00:12:59.000 Can you please explain to us in great detail why Hispanic voters believe that men and women have biological differences?

00:13:06.000 Please tell us why Hispanic voters believe that the border matters.

00:13:11.000 How dare they believe it must be QAnon?

00:13:13.000 In fact, I'm positive it is.

00:13:16.000 You know what this really is by this?

00:13:18.000 Who is this woman who's talking? 0.98

00:13:20.000 General Gaskell. 1.00

00:13:21.000 She's basically saying, listen, Hispanic voters are so stupid, they don't really know what they're doing. 1.00

00:13:28.000 So please tell us how you're censoring things so the dumb Hispanic people aren't able to feel because they're just so gullible. 1.00

00:13:36.000 Remember, we have to talk slowly around Hispanic people because they're new here. 1.00

00:13:40.000 That's basically the essence of her question.

00:13:43.000 Like the misinformation, disinformation.

00:13:44.000 No, this is what's really happening, Jennifer Gaskell.

00:13:48.000 You're starting to see your poll numbers go down in the Hispanic community, and all of a sudden your mass migration plans is now being put in jeopardy.

00:13:56.000 And Nicaraguans and El Salvadorians and Guatemalans and Mexicans are becoming radical Republicans in record numbers.

00:14:02.000 And the only thing that Jennifer Gaskell and the Democrats can blame is it must be misinformation. 0.78

00:14:08.000 It must be that QAnon thing again.

00:14:11.000 No, actually, Hispanics, they look at like, for example, they'll see the Netflix document that says he's expecting and they'll say, that's loco. 0.99

00:14:19.000 I don't believe, whoever's behind that, not a fan.

00:14:23.000 But no, Jennifer Gaskell wants to have an entire regime of censorship, an entire administration around shutting people up because they're starting to lose their voters. 1.00

00:14:33.000 Must be misinformation.

00:14:35.000 It's the only way that could, how could, how could these Hispanics possibly believe such a thing as America's a good country? 1.00

00:14:41.000 I mean, come on. 0.80

00:14:42.000 They must be manipulated.

00:14:44.000 In fact, it must be foreign disinformation.

00:14:47.000 This is the new frontier, everybody.

00:14:49.000 They are going to call ideas and speakers like this program disinformation.

00:14:54.000 Brookings institution is already doing that.

00:14:56.000 Brookings is coming out trying to censor our podcast because our podcast is so successful, because we dared ask questions about Ukraine.

00:15:05.000 Like you're not allowed to do that.

00:15:07.000 The Ministry of Truth is marching into the most important issue in America.

00:15:15.000 Can you speak freely?

00:15:18.000 Ron DeSantis talked about this, Play Cut 101.

00:15:21.000 But clearly, our entire principles of the country was founded on, you cannot have a ministry of truth in this country.

00:15:31.000 And so let's get real here.

00:15:33.000 Let's make sure that we're doing things to benefit Floridians and Americans, but we're not going to let Biden get away with this one.

00:15:40.000 So we'll be fighting back.

00:15:46.000 God bless you, Ron DeSantis.

00:15:47.000 That's the right approach.

00:15:48.000 States standing up against the federal government.

00:15:51.000 The federal government's going to create a ministry of truth.

00:15:53.000 And every Republican governor needs to draw a line in the sand and say this is not going to happen.

00:15:57.000 Why is Ron DeSantis the only Republican that said this?

00:16:00.000 Well, that seems to be a theme of this program.

00:16:03.000 Ron does the right thing, and most Republicans don't.

00:16:08.000 With us is Jack Pisovic from Turning Point USA's Human Events Daily or Human Events Daily with Turning Point USA.

00:16:13.000 Anyway, it's Jack Pisovic.

00:16:14.000 Jack, welcome back to the program.

00:16:16.000 Charlie, always a pleasure, my friend.

00:16:18.000 So, Nina, how do you pronounce her last name, Jack?

00:16:21.000 Well, in Polish, it should be Jankovich. 0.89

00:16:23.000 All right, Nina.

00:16:25.000 So, tell us about Nina, and she's in charge of the Ministry of Truth. 0.81

00:16:29.000 What does this mean?

00:16:30.000 Is this, I mean, I kind of feel as if this is kind of a joke on the American people.

00:16:34.000 How serious is this, actually?

00:16:36.000 So, we've yet to really find out what's going on here.

00:16:38.000 It's very interesting to me, though, that the media has completely been uninterested to determine what exactly is going on with this Department of Homeland Security disinformation governance board.

00:16:52.000 And I can assure you that if Donald J. Trump was setting up some kind of, you know, fake news applicator, we're going to censor things on the internet kind of board.

00:17:02.000 I have to imagine that Maggie Haberman and the Washington Post and the rest would be all over it.

00:17:07.000 But with this one, Daniel Lippmann over at Politico for the playbook, he doesn't usually write for playbook, drops it in there.

00:17:14.000 It's pretty obvious that Nina actually leaked this herself, I think, because then she goes all over Twitter and is like, well, the cat's out of the bag, guys.

00:17:23.000 Let me just post my official portrait and everything else that's going on with this.

00:17:27.000 So, what we know, though, from this political report and really just Nina Jankovich's own tweets is that this is a board that's being set up.

00:17:37.000 And then they asked Secretary Mayorkis about it.

00:17:39.000 They asked Jensaki about it for some more information.

00:17:41.000 We're not getting a lot of details, though, that will be used to stop Jensaki's words to stop the flow of disinformation throughout the country.

00:17:51.000 That's what we're told.

00:17:52.000 And so, Charlie, what you're looking at, though, from my assessment, this is think of the fact-checking that goes out there, right?

00:18:00.000 The fact-checking on Facebook, on Instagram.

00:18:02.000 We know they're all fake fact checks, right?

00:18:04.000 But this is what they used to stop or slow the posts.

00:18:07.000 Now, what they're doing is they're creating an actual government board that is more than likely going to be sending out guidance the same way the CDC used to, right?

00:18:18.000 Send out the guidance.

00:18:20.000 They're not called orders.

00:18:20.000 They're not called directives anymore.

00:18:22.000 They're going to be guidance.

00:18:23.000 And then the fact checkers will take that guidance or directly with the social media companies.

00:18:29.000 So it's like Elon Musk comes in, announces he's purchasing Twitter.

00:18:33.000 And before the end of the week, we have a Ministry of Truth established.

00:18:38.000 So yeah, let's talk.

00:18:39.000 You and I haven't talked about the Elon thing on air.

00:18:41.000 We've talked about this privately.

00:18:44.000 Do you think these things are connected?

00:18:45.000 Do you think that this is part of the empire striking back?

00:18:48.000 Like, okay, Elon, you buy Twitter, then you're going to have to deal with Nina? 0.99

00:18:52.000 No, I don't necessarily think it's connected.

00:18:54.000 I think this is something if you go to her LinkedIn page and her Twitter, she's actually been talking about this for several months.

00:19:00.000 And I think everyone can agree that Elon's thing really was more spur of the moment than anything else.

00:19:05.000 And so this is something that the Biden administration, the regime has been working on for a long time, Charlie.

00:19:11.000 This has been their agenda to essentially tell the public.

00:19:14.000 Imagine going back six years, even five years, and saying that you're going to have a government agency determining what can and can't be said on the internet.

00:19:24.000 We already saw this.

00:19:25.000 We experienced this through COVID.

00:19:27.000 And at the height of it, you couldn't say certain things about masks.

00:19:30.000 You still can't say certain things about vaccines or your speech will be throttled or your entire social media account, your presence online will be destroyed.

00:19:40.000 All right.

00:19:41.000 This is what they're doing now.

00:19:42.000 They're cutting out the middleman, essentially, and they're putting instead the middle woman, Nini Yankovich. 0.99

00:19:50.000 So what do you make of the Elon thing?

00:19:52.000 Reaction has been hysterical, obviously.

00:19:54.000 Most conservatives are greeting this with great enthusiasm and optimism, I being one of them.

00:20:00.000 What do you make of it?

00:20:01.000 Well, I think it's great.

00:20:03.000 I love, you know, when you have this Deus Ex Machina kind of like swings in from the rafters to kind of save the whole thing, I don't think it really changes the overall picture in terms of this.

00:20:13.000 You know, it might be a stopgap for a while to have someone who actually is a free speech absolutist in control of what is essentially now the public square.

00:20:21.000 But at the same time, you're still going to have issues at Facebook.

00:20:24.000 You're going to have issues at Google, Wikipedia, all these other places.

00:20:27.000 That's why I would support, in general, Congress coming in and essentially declaring that these things are utilities and putting some regulations on it.

00:20:36.000 But I mean, do you think that changes, though, now that Elon owns Twitter?

00:20:39.000 Do we want that?

00:20:40.000 I mean, would an idea of like a holistic competitor potentially be more helpful than additional government regulation?

00:20:47.000 I'm just thinking out loud, right?

00:20:48.000 I mean, Elon with his drive, I mean, he could potentially add a Instagram feature to Twitter.

00:20:54.000 He could add a video feature.

00:20:56.000 I mean, really, it is an endless platform if you think about it, right?

00:21:00.000 But are we more worried about the other ones than we are about the benefit of a competitor?

00:21:05.000 I think it's temporary.

00:21:06.000 I think that's really my only point is whatever Elon does is only going to be temporary.

00:21:10.000 And at the same time, one thing that I am bullish on, and Jack Dorsey talked about this back in 2019, Elon Musk is talking about it a little bit more now is this idea of making Twitter into an open source protocol, right?

00:21:21.000 So the idea being, you know, let's say you've got Verizon or you've got T-Mobile, you've got Patriot Mobile, of course, but you can still communicate with each other across these different services because they use the same protocols, the same way an Android can text message to an iPhone.

00:21:38.000 You get the green and not the blue, et cetera, et cetera.

00:21:41.000 But the idea is if you can tweet, let's say you can post a message to Twitter, but then I can read that on Getter.

00:21:48.000 I can read that on TrueSocial.

00:21:50.000 I could read that on a different platform.

00:21:52.000 You're opening up the sandbox that way.

00:21:54.000 And that is something that Elon has talked about.

00:21:57.000 Yeah.

00:21:58.000 And so how else is the regime going to strike back against him?

00:22:01.000 What is the empire going to do?

00:22:03.000 Do you think Elon has thought that through?

00:22:06.000 Is there something to the argument that the government needs Elon more than Elon needs the government with his SpaceX and trying to compete in space against Russia and China?

00:22:14.000 Or do you think Elon just has done this impulsively and really doesn't care about what's going to come next?

00:22:18.000 I actually have some background on this that I can't get too into.

00:22:25.000 But this Elon, it may seem that he's doing this at spur of the moment.

00:22:30.000 This has been a strategy of his.

00:22:32.000 This is something that he's actually been working up to for a while.

00:22:34.000 He's had cryptic tweets about buying Twitter going all the way back to 2017.

00:22:38.000 But in the last couple months, really looking at Twitter's valuation, especially looking at how Twitter had dropped really halved from its high of 70 to about 35 in terms of stock price, he huddled with his team, looked at this and said, you know what?

00:22:52.000 I think it's time to come in here and make a play.

00:22:55.000 Yeah, but do you think that he's thought through the potential like ramifications, what this means for his businesses?

00:23:01.000 I mean, 100%.

00:23:03.000 He has.

00:23:03.000 Okay.

00:23:04.000 So how is he, how is he going to endure that?

00:23:07.000 Or do you think he values free speech more than the potential cost this could mean for him and his businesses?

00:23:12.000 He's making a huge chess move right here, but Elon has always been a chess player.

00:23:16.000 And I think he's doing it in such a way where he's being strategic.

00:23:18.000 So you saw he just sold off about $4 billion in terms of Tesla before, because we know this, right?

00:23:24.000 We know a lot of Elon's money, a lot of his net worth, right?

00:23:27.000 Everyone's richest man in the world.

00:23:28.000 Okay, but it's on paper, right?

00:23:30.000 If that's tied up in your Tesla stock because he owns 20% of it, then that only becomes liquid when you actually sell some of the stock, which of course, then in turn, is going to obviously affect the price of the stock thereof.

00:23:43.000 So he's doing that.

00:23:44.000 He's starting to make these steps incrementally.

00:23:47.000 And I'm watching very closely on this.

00:23:50.000 And actually, we've got for Human Events Daily today, we're doing a huge deep dive on what some of the investor community is saying about this.

00:23:56.000 We're talking about how some people think that he might even take a move.

00:23:59.000 And this is something that Bannon got, you know, he came out very publicly and said, Elon should just drop the bid.

00:24:05.000 Elon should drop the bid right now.

00:24:06.000 The spread is getting too big.

00:24:08.000 Pull it out.

00:24:09.000 Let the stock collapse.

00:24:10.000 See the C-suite get completely fired, wiped out, erased by the board, then come back in at, you know, 50%.

00:24:18.000 But do you think that's likely?

00:24:20.000 I mean, that would open the opportunity for another person to come in and scoop up.

00:24:24.000 And that's exactly what my response was.

00:24:26.000 So I said, look, you know, we're in a game of brinkmanship here.

00:24:29.000 We're in a very dangerous period.

00:24:30.000 But at the same point, I think the regime does understand that the true value of Twitter isn't a $100 trillion company.

00:24:39.000 Right.

00:24:40.000 It's the information warfare pipeline for the entire administration, for the entire regime.

00:24:45.000 So whether or not it continues to exist as it currently does as a left-wing censorship and bias distribution platform of information warfare, I call it, you know, since 2016, I call it the Tumblr occupation of Twitter for people out there who knows what who know what Tumblr is, because, you know, they used to kind of stick to their corner of the internet, but then somehow they took over Twitter, the company.

00:25:07.000 And Dorsey said that as well.

00:25:09.000 He said, I think Twitter is a great idea, but Twitter, the company, is not a bad idea, or excuse me, not a good idea.

00:25:15.000 Yeah, I mean, it's become a cesspool.

00:25:17.000 And so, you know, Elon's calculation here, he loves taking risk, but he's not without cards, right?

00:25:23.000 So they could subpoena him and investigate him.

00:25:27.000 It seems as if he knows he has cards too, or basically he could turn in and say, okay, so how are exactly you going to get to the international space station?

00:25:33.000 Right.

00:25:34.000 Because prior to, you know, Space Act really been up there, what were we doing?

00:25:37.000 We were using Russia, right? 0.89

00:25:39.000 Russia was a big payload carrier for us, their platform out of Kazakhstan.

00:25:45.000 Obviously, that's not going to be happening anytime soon.

00:25:47.000 So guess what?

00:25:48.000 Elon's timing, I guarantee.

00:25:50.000 And this is something that actually had been a question of mine.

00:25:52.000 I went and asked some people, came back.

00:25:54.000 They said he knows exactly what he's doing.

00:25:57.000 He's thought this all out.

00:25:58.000 He saw this opportunity.

00:26:00.000 It also came up because remember, Starlink was something in kind of the early days of the Ukraine-Russia war.

00:26:07.000 The government of Ukraine reached out.

00:26:08.000 They said, hey, can we use Starlink?

00:26:10.000 That may have actually been something that got his gears turning on this and saying, hey, you know, because the space industry, and we know, you know, it's a multi-billion dollar industry, but it's actually kind of small because there's only so many platforms that can actually field assets into space, right?

00:26:26.000 There's not a lot of players.

00:26:27.000 So when you took a major one of those off the board, that suddenly made the value of SpaceX completely shoot up.

00:26:34.000 And yeah, and so, I mean, you just look at Starlink, for example, no other company's in that space.

00:26:39.000 I mean, there's no one.

00:26:41.000 And he's been clairvoyant and just entrepreneurial into going into it.

00:26:45.000 But then you also have Tesla, you have the boring company.

00:26:48.000 I mean, he has a portfolio of these companies now.

00:26:51.000 And so I would guess that if I were the people in charge, I would try to decouple Elon from these companies.

00:26:58.000 The companies are necessary.

00:27:00.000 They're going to try to make it seem like, well, can we have somebody else run SpaceX?

00:27:03.000 You know what I mean?

00:27:04.000 Like, so that's where I think they're going to try to make their targeted, their, their attacks more on Elon than the companies themselves, because the way Elon has built this, and I think it's been intentional very quietly and steadily for years, kind of being the kind of, you know, very, you know, abstract Tony Stark who might, you know, smoke weed with Joe Rogan and send a tweet that he might regret about Saudi Arabia buying Tesla going private or something with these kind of one-off things is that he was definitely not a threat, right?

00:27:32.000 Elon was not a threat.

00:27:34.000 You saw the same thing.

00:27:35.000 If you go back and look at the railroads in this country, you look at the oil pipelines and the oil fields.

00:27:42.000 This is the exact same thing the government did again and again to the people that initially went into those spaces and became the major competitor.

00:27:50.000 There's a whole, you know, I'm not a big, you know, Atlas drug person, but there is a whole book about this.

00:27:57.000 The philosophy of Ayn Rand is to be debated, and I would certainly agree with you on that.

00:28:03.000 However, who is John Galt or who is Elon Musk?

00:28:07.000 Actually be the more appropriate question.

00:28:10.000 And so, Jack, heading into the midterms and kind of right around the corner, what tricks up the sleeve do you think the Democrats have that we should be on the lookout for?

00:28:19.000 You know, it's really amazing when I look at some of this stuff, but obviously canceling student debt is going to be a huge issue for them, something they're really trying to change the narrative of kind of everything that's been going on, but they're also trying to cancel menthol cigarettes.

00:28:32.000 And I don't think that's a good narrative for the Biden administration going into going into these midterms.

00:28:37.000 But when you really look across the landscape, whether it be national security, which is an abysmal failure from the war in Europe to the complete collapse of Afghanistan, then you've also got an economy now where we are one quarter away.

00:28:53.000 We are one quarter away from a recession.

00:28:56.000 So a recession is two consecutive quarters of negative growth.

00:29:00.000 We have just put up one, one which, by the way, is so amazing to me, MSNBC and even CNBC, they're all saying this, unexpected, unexpected negative growth.

00:29:09.000 Look, not only that, but you've got gas prices up around this country at a sustained rate that Americans haven't seen really since I think 2008 or so, right?

00:29:19.000 These are the highest gas prices in a long time.

00:29:22.000 And yet you don't hear anything, anything from the administration about, okay, we're going to be pulling up on these regulations.

00:29:29.000 We're going to be getting it.

00:29:30.000 Oh, by the way, let me break that down real quick because you always hear Jen Saki saying, oh, well, they have the permits. 0.73

00:29:35.000 They have the permits.

00:29:35.000 They have the permits, right?

00:29:36.000 You have 9,000 permits and they just won't drill.

00:29:38.000 No, no, no.

00:29:39.000 You don't just need a permit to start drilling in the United States.

00:29:42.000 You just don't need a lease.

00:29:42.000 No, You got to go through your surveys and you got to go through your approvals.

00:29:46.000 And then you have to talk to an organization known as the EPA.

00:29:50.000 And then, of course, you're going to get sued.

00:29:53.000 You're going to get sued by every green group under the sun, right? 1.00

00:29:56.000 So what the administration should be doing, by the way, and if you care about, you know, fighting Russia, weakening Russia, if you're someone that really wants to do that, which by the way, obviously we would like peace and a ceasefire to go in place and try to figure out what's going on, stop the killing, right?

00:30:12.000 You'd want American energy flowing as much as possible.

00:30:17.000 You'd want as much gas and oil flowing as possible.

00:30:20.000 That's the way you lower the price of oil.

00:30:24.000 Because remember, McCain and all these people, Kinziger used to always say this, right?

00:30:28.000 Well, Russia, they're just a gas station with nukes, a gas station with nukes. 0.92

00:30:32.000 Well, it turns out that gas and nukes are actually kind of important, right?

00:30:36.000 You know, because we need gas and, you know, we're not exactly immune to nuclear warfare.

00:30:41.000 And so the idea being is not only would it help with that effort right there from a geostrategic perspective, but it would really, really help here back at home.

00:30:50.000 Because obviously, I would hope that there's somebody in the White House, maybe Brian Dees can go ask his buddies over at BlackRock where he just came from about how this works.

00:30:59.000 But if you want to increase growth in the United States economically, then a huge factor impacting millions of Americans around the country is going to be the sticker tape on that price of gas.

00:31:13.000 Because if gas is that much, then your base commuting goes up, then your price of goods goes up, your price of your groceries goes up, all of it goes up.

00:31:20.000 Your gas price, your fuel is going to be your number one expense as a household in terms of that.

00:31:26.000 And so not only, of course, sure, winter's done, but now it's starting to warm up.

00:31:29.000 It's starting to heat up.

00:31:30.000 You know, Charlie, you're out there in Phoenix, right?

00:31:32.000 I know you guys have those air conditioners kicking.

00:31:34.000 You need it, right?

00:31:34.000 You need it.

00:31:35.000 And so that's the situation that we're going to be going in.

00:31:39.000 These energy prices go up, people are going to start rationing.

00:31:42.000 And when they're doing that, the American people start to think, they go, you know what?

00:31:46.000 I remember these Jimmy Carter stuff, this Jimmy Carter stuff.

00:31:48.000 I remember only being able to go and get gas on certain days of the week based on your license plate, having an odd number, an even number.

00:31:55.000 They don't want to be told that they have to shut down their consumption.

00:31:59.000 They want to be told that they can live normal and happy lives.

00:32:02.000 So keep in mind, though, the administration is in free fall.

00:32:06.000 They're in total collapse.

00:32:07.000 And that's why you've got Nini Yankovich up there heading the Ministry of Truth because they can't have things like Elon Musk, who just tweeted earlier today.

00:32:15.000 The Democrat Party has been taken over by the extremists.

00:32:19.000 It's well said.

00:32:19.000 Jack Pasobic from Human Events Daily with Turning Point USA.

00:32:22.000 Jack, great commentary.

00:32:23.000 I'll have you back again on soon.

00:32:24.000 Thank you.

00:32:25.000 Thanks, Charlie.

00:32:26.000 Thank you, Jack.

00:32:27.000 Thank you so much for listening, everybody.

00:32:29.000 Email me your thoughts as always: freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:32:31.000 Thank you so much for listening.

00:32:32.000 God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - April 30, 2022

'This Is Messed Up' — Biden Regime Tackles MiSiNfOrMaTiOn

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