The Charlie Kirk Show - November 14, 2020


This Poll Worker Witnessed Rampant Ballot Fraud in Detroit


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Jen Lindsay Cooper is a Michigan whistleblower who saw some things that could only be described as illegal happening in the vote counting process in Detroit. She s a friend of the show, and she is here to tell her story. And it s horrifying.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, exclusively here on the Charlie Kirk Show, we have a Michigan whistleblower, Jen Lindsay Cooper, who saw some things that could only be described as illegal happening in the vote counting process in Detroit, Michigan.
00:00:13.000 She's a friend and a friend of the show, and she is here to tell her story.
00:00:18.000 And it's horrifying what she describes.
00:00:20.000 It is incredible how she saw people filling in ballots that were not military ballots in a way that could only be described as fraudulent.
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00:02:16.000 Hey, everybody, welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:02:18.000 We are joined today with Jen Lindsey Cooper.
00:02:23.000 Jen, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:02:25.000 Tell us your story.
00:02:26.000 Tell us what you've been seeing from the front lines.
00:02:30.000 Our listeners and our viewers would be very interested to hear this.
00:02:33.000 Thank you, Charlie.
00:02:34.000 It's an honor to be here, and thanks for all you're doing.
00:02:38.000 I saw you at a fundraiser and went on home and applied to work my own city in some capacity.
00:02:48.000 So I was in the city of Waterford and trained to count absentee votes and did so on election day for about 18 hours.
00:02:56.000 So the protocols there were extremely rigid with the arching message.
00:03:05.000 We want no semblance of impropriety.
00:03:07.000 We were sequestered in a room.
00:03:09.000 And I paired with Artner, who I spent the entire 18 hours with to the point where we had to actually go to the restroom together.
00:03:16.000 No internet.
00:03:17.000 Our phones were taken and put in black box of some kind.
00:03:20.000 And so, you know, I definitely had a hardcore experience with how our absentee system works, how it needs to work, how it has to work.
00:03:29.000 And at the sort of the tail end, we also did the military votes, which are done with your Democrat partner and a supervisor.
00:03:36.000 The ballots are checked out one at a time, which maybe on a larger scale is different.
00:03:42.000 And then they are executed very carefully.
00:03:45.000 They look a very specific way.
00:03:48.000 So when I got home at one in the morning, I slept for a few hours.
00:03:53.000 And we received some messaging from different channels that they needed some help with challenging down in Detroit at the center there.
00:04:01.000 And I went on down there.
00:04:02.000 So that was nothing like my experience in Waterford.
00:04:07.000 And I saw quite a bit of impropriety on the floor there.
00:04:15.000 Can you help us just with specifics of what you saw when you went down to Detroit?
00:04:20.000 And you have an affidavit here that you signed that details some of that.
00:04:24.000 Just help walk us through that.
00:04:26.000 Right.
00:04:27.000 So the affidavit is specific to my experience watching a military count, a military duplication is what they were saying they were doing.
00:04:37.000 So counter will come up to get blank ballots.
00:04:40.000 Like I said, in Waterford, this was done one at a time here.
00:04:43.000 We would kind of gather there.
00:04:45.000 So someone that was taking blank ballots would be followed, usually by a challenger, just to, they're very important, and they would carry them back to the table.
00:04:55.000 So in that specific instance, I watched these ballots go back to a table, table 16, and they were just sat there.
00:05:04.000 There was no one doing anything with them.
00:05:06.000 They were just sitting there.
00:05:07.000 So we're watching them sit there, very unusual right there, you know, not okay in.
00:05:11.000 The next thing that happened was the lady that came over and took them and placed them in.
00:05:18.000 That was marked problem, ballot challenging.
00:05:22.000 Hey, you know, excuse me, you know, polite process.
00:05:26.000 What are you doing with these blank ballots why?
00:05:28.000 Why are they in the the problem?
00:05:29.000 You know what's what's going to happen here.
00:05:31.000 So at that point you get that the Democratic challengers, at that point, from my experience was a very tall man came over and started to, you know, ask her, um, is this Karen bothering you?
00:05:47.000 Do you feel safe with her?
00:05:49.000 Um, and you start to experience this.
00:05:52.000 Wait a minute.
00:05:53.000 You know, this is just a process, you know, sort of the, the teaching of our counters to personalize um, this like it creates hostility, it's like it's not hostile.
00:06:03.000 What are you doing with the blank ballots?
00:06:05.000 And the problem, you know, and she was a little uh, flustered too, and so she picked those up.
00:06:10.000 And then the next thing, you know, these five to seven blanks are being tucked underneath what looks like maybe a poll book or just some lined paper, and so this whole thing is is very um improper right, it's very improper.
00:06:27.000 So um, I again.
00:06:28.000 You know what's going on with these um, i'm waiting for my supervisor. 0.96
00:06:33.000 We're going to do militaries right so okay, she's joined by two women um, and one of them pulls a standard long ballot from a pile.
00:06:44.000 Now it's important to understand the way a military vote comes to you.
00:06:50.000 It comes in packaging like all kinds of different packaging.
00:06:52.000 Parvon, you know tape around it comes from someone serving, so it comes to you and you take a letter over and you open it.
00:07:01.000 There was no packaging now inside of a military Ballot, everyone I saw, is an 8x10 piece of paper that that service person has signed, along with an 8x10 Xerox of a ballot.
00:07:15.000 And this is what you're duplicating.
00:07:17.000 These things go together.
00:07:18.000 You look at the signature in front of another party member and a supervisor.
00:07:24.000 So, what I was witnessing, a ballot, one calling it out to the other, and calling the three that I saw executed called for Joe Biden and Democrats down the line.
00:07:34.000 So, the whole thing was wildly improper.
00:07:38.000 I don't believe they were even military votes of any kind, in which case, this would be manufacturing a vote.
00:07:44.000 It was just completely improper.
00:07:46.000 So, on the floor, the recourse that you have there is to take notes.
00:07:50.000 And there were some attorneys on the floor.
00:07:52.000 You would call them over and they would just observe with you and say, you know, take a note.
00:07:56.000 The meantime, the Democratic challengers that were around were just really there to cause hostility, dissension, distraction.
00:08:06.000 I never saw one challenge anything.
00:08:10.000 So, you know, all of that was just very disturbing and nowhere near creating no semblance of impropriety.
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00:09:33.000 So you say here in line nine, they filled in ballots.
00:09:39.000 Is that right?
00:09:41.000 Yeah, that's what it appears to me.
00:09:43.000 I can't, you know, I can't speak to what they were actually doing, but when you duplicate a ballot, right, when you're going to duplicate a military ballot, you get the, you started from the very beginning in the letter that the serviceman or woman sent in.
00:09:57.000 There was none of that.
00:09:58.000 So they were saying we're doing these militaries.
00:10:00.000 They're really just pulling a long regular ballot from a pile and reading it out to someone who's transcribing it onto yet a new ballot.
00:10:09.000 And that ballot goes into the country.
00:10:12.000 The military service had no military ballot.
00:10:16.000 And, you know, what was it?
00:10:20.000 I don't know.
00:10:21.000 It was not correct military process.
00:10:24.000 Believe me, I mean, you do this for long enough, you understand the process very well.
00:10:30.000 And that was not any, there was no military ballot that I saw.
00:10:34.000 And three of them were processed in front of me.
00:10:37.000 The other blank ballots just disappeared.
00:10:40.000 So they were probably, so based on your observation, these were non-military ballots that were being duplicated or they were just filling them in.
00:10:51.000 That's illegal, right?
00:10:53.000 I would say that that would be very illegal.
00:10:55.000 But I thought you said there were lawyers around.
00:10:59.000 Why did no one stop this?
00:11:01.000 Right.
00:11:01.000 So the lawyers on the floor, you can raise your hand and summon a lawyer.
00:11:04.000 And basically they just tell you you need to fill out these documents, which do turn into affidavits, right?
00:11:11.000 But and I sought out where I needed to go to make sure that this information was properly transcribed the way you can see it now, the way it appears in the suit, because that's what I saw.
00:11:26.000 It wasn't quite.
00:11:27.000 There were other things that I observed on the floor that was really to me the most alarming.
00:11:32.000 And there are many, many affidavits, the people that were watching scanners, had different experiences than mine.
00:11:41.000 That was my experience.
00:11:43.000 I saw lots of chain of custody of ballot, just basically non-existent, a woman, a supervisor, really just walking around with one in her hand.
00:11:55.000 I never saw the exterior envelope of the absentee ballot, which is also a very important part of this process.
00:12:01.000 When you receive ballots at a counting table, the first thing you do is balance them.
00:12:06.000 You balance them in their exterior envelope, meaning here's 100 ballots.
00:12:11.000 Great.
00:12:12.000 We're going to count them with my opposing party partner and make sure that they are 100 ballots before we even look at them.
00:12:19.000 So I didn't see any exterior packaging.
00:12:21.000 There were loose ballots in the secrecy league.
00:12:23.000 No exterior packaging.
00:12:25.000 That stuff is, we save that.
00:12:26.000 That has to be rebundled.
00:12:28.000 Once the ballot comes out and you tear off the top in a series and it goes to counting, we still save those exteriors, of course.
00:12:36.000 So I didn't see any of those anywhere.
00:12:39.000 And so it's not incorrect to conjecture that these might have been just civilian ballots that they were filling in? 0.97
00:12:50.000 Or they could have been just dummies.
00:12:53.000 I have no idea, but they weren't militaries. 0.94
00:12:57.000 I don't know where ballot A was coming to say it was a military ballot and turning into a duplicate ballot that was going in a counting machine.
00:13:06.000 But only if it was a military ballot would it be correct and okay to fill it in.
00:13:13.000 Is that right?
00:13:14.000 Is that in essence?
00:13:16.000 That's my experience.
00:13:17.000 I haven't duplicated any other type of ballot.
00:13:21.000 And they told me when I challenged on duplicate, you know, numerous times that they were doing militaries.
00:13:26.000 We're waiting for my supervisor.
00:13:27.000 We're going to execute.
00:13:28.000 They didn't use the word execute.
00:13:30.000 I used the word execute a military ballot because that's what I was trained. 0.60
00:13:32.000 We're going to do the military ballots. 0.91
00:13:35.000 Day after the election day, which is the day I was there on 11-4, it was, you know, the police came in, they boarded up the windows.
00:13:44.000 You know, this was happening at this time.
00:13:47.000 And I think that they were definitely working to get the Republican challengers out of there.
00:13:55.000 I know I left about four o'clock, not wanting to be anywhere near there at dark because it was very contentious and scary.
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00:14:43.000 Yeah, and so they were making an environment for Republican poll watchers that they did not want to be there, almost pseudo, very dangerous, right?
00:14:52.000 And intimidating and harassing.
00:14:55.000 And so can you contrast the experience you had in the Waterford area?
00:14:59.000 I think you said Waterford versus the one at TCF Center.
00:15:04.000 Oh, it was a one at 180.
00:15:06.000 You know, it was so very secure.
00:15:08.000 We were very sequestered.
00:15:09.000 We were, you know, it was all honor.
00:15:11.000 It was an honor.
00:15:12.000 There was no hostility or contention.
00:15:14.000 You know, the gal I spent the day with, you know, we became buddies.
00:15:19.000 We were all there to serve this country in our voting process.
00:15:24.000 It was at nothing, had no appearance of what I saw downtown.
00:15:28.000 And that's part of the reason it was so disturbing and so upsetting to see this disrespectful people to each other, of our processes, of our checks and balances, and the things that we have in place to guard our election process so willy-nilly.
00:15:47.000 And I feel that some of that was intentional and distracting and that it was created.
00:15:54.000 And there were a lot of great people down there doing the same thing I was trying to do in Waterford, which is serve.
00:16:00.000 But it was completely different.
00:16:04.000 Immediately you had a sense of what's going on here.
00:16:07.000 What is going on here?
00:16:08.000 How is this happening?
00:16:11.000 How is this taking place?
00:16:12.000 So the last question I'll have is this, is you saw how one process was done and the second process.
00:16:18.000 Just based on the evidence that you saw and just the feel of it, does it feel as if there was something nefarious happening at TCF Center?
00:16:27.000 That there was just something that wasn't exact, that there might have been some cutting of the corners and dare we say some cheating.
00:16:35.000 Affidavit if you don't feel that things were wrong and wrong against wrong against our country, wrong against every person that votes, no matter what party you're in, you want to pay attention to this.
00:16:45.000 No, I would not be coming forward.
00:16:49.000 It felt very nefarious.
00:16:50.000 It felt like there was all kinds of different things going on, but you weren't really sure.
00:16:54.000 So you had to go to where you had knowledge.
00:16:56.000 And there were places and things that I saw where I'm like, huh, this seems weird.
00:17:00.000 Let me call over someone that was here yesterday.
00:17:02.000 Is this normal?
00:17:03.000 You know, so it was, it was at every turn.
00:17:05.000 You know, it was, it was the whole feeling, but it was the actual things that people saw that were trained to look.
00:17:13.000 Yeah, 100%.
00:17:15.000 I hate to say it.
00:17:17.000 It's very sad.
00:17:18.000 Well, I want to thank you for wanting to be a poll watcher.
00:17:21.000 And just for everyone listening and watching, you wanted to do the right thing.
00:17:25.000 You poll watched in a very just normal place to do it where it wasn't chaos.
00:17:30.000 Then you went down to the TCF.
00:17:32.000 Counted in a very, in my city.
00:17:34.000 So I have the experience of being a counter.
00:17:37.000 Like the people that are on the floor that I was watching, I did their job.
00:17:41.000 So I know.
00:17:42.000 And it was just like a different country almost.
00:17:45.000 Yeah.
00:17:45.000 Yep.
00:17:46.000 Well, and that, and then you were intimidated and harassed, and you probably saw voter fraud right in front of you, which inexplicably ballots were being filled out with no explanation at all whatsoever.
00:17:58.000 So I want to thank you for your commitment to our country.
00:18:01.000 And, you know, we're going to keep looking into this and just hopefully we can get to the bottom of this.
00:18:06.000 Thank you, Charlie.
00:18:07.000 Thanks for all you guys are doing.
00:18:08.000 God bless.
00:18:08.000 You bet.
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