The Charlie Kirk Show - 'This Will Be Our Finest Hour' LIVE with Pastor Jack Hibbs

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, just a couple days ago, I was in Calvary Chapel, Chino Hills, speaking with the great Jack Hibbs about a lot of stuff happening in our country, including where do we go from here?

00:00:10.000 What are the action steps we need to take?

00:00:12.000 What are the boxes I need to check?

00:00:13.000 We go through that, including what does the Bible say about times like this.

00:00:17.000 My friend Jack Hibbs, one of the most courageous, clear-thinking, and amazing pastors in the country, hosted me generously again at his church, Calvary Chapochino Hills.

00:00:28.000 Thank you guys for allowing our staff and our team to be able to do what they do.

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00:00:35.000 Jack Hibbs and I chat about a lot.

00:00:37.000 Buckle up, everybody.

00:00:38.000 Action-packed episode.

00:00:40.000 Here we go.

00:00:41.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:00:49.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

00:00:52.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:00:53.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:00:54.000 His spirit, his love of this country.

00:00:56.000 He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.

00:01:02.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.

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00:02:43.000 It's a good group, Jack.

00:02:45.000 Geez.

00:02:46.000 It's amazing what happens when you keep your church open, right?

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00:02:57.000 Charlie, the nation and the year that's ahead of us, probably more than ever, certainly more than in my lifetime, is the fact that with what we've gone through and where we're heading, the church and for not only the church, but Americans need to hear encouragement.

00:03:18.000 They need to hear truth.

00:03:20.000 And a lot of people are feeling kind of low.

00:03:22.000 And yet they need to actually be encouraged.

00:03:26.000 Why should they be encouraged?

00:03:28.000 Well, boy, there's a lot of reasons.

00:03:30.000 And I do want to start with just kind of taking a damage report of how awful things are.

00:03:37.000 And I actually think it's healthy and I think it's helpful.

00:03:40.000 And then we can build up from there.

00:03:41.000 And kind of what were the contributing factors?

00:03:44.000 Because my goodness, it was hard to watch yesterday.

00:03:46.000 It was.

00:03:47.000 And I know a lot of people here in this church did their part.

00:03:52.000 I can't say that for every church across the country, quite honestly, but this church did their part.

00:03:57.000 This church Registered voters, this church mobilized.

00:04:02.000 This church was aware, was alert, was informed, hosted the right gatherings.

00:04:07.000 And you'll be blessed by that.

00:04:08.000 You will.

00:04:09.000 And you made an impact in this community, and yes, even the state will talk about that.

00:04:13.000 But yeah, it's, we lost the Georgia runoffs, the Capitol tragedy, the NRA declared bankruptcy.

00:04:20.000 President Trump has access to no social media at all whatsoever.

00:04:24.000 They took him off of TikTok.

00:04:25.000 I mean, what did they think he was going to do on TikTok?

00:04:29.000 Spotify, Instagram, Twitter, TikTok.

00:04:32.000 Really, in a stunning turn of events, I would have loved to have seen President Trump transition to TikTok when all other options were exhausted.

00:04:40.000 The very company he was trying to kick out of the country.

00:04:45.000 It's felt as if the hits have just kept coming.

00:04:48.000 And yet, I refuse to do anything but be committed to good cheer, positivity, and optimism.

00:04:53.000 And some people have been, Charlie, are you delirious?

00:04:57.000 Like, no, I understand completely what's going on in our country.

00:05:01.000 But let's also take a step back and ask ourselves the question, Jack: is it as bad as it feels?

00:05:08.000 And the answer is no.

00:05:09.000 The Democrats do not have 60 seats in the United States Senate.

00:05:12.000 They have 50.

00:05:14.000 A couple of them are going to be up in 2022 in very tough races in Arizona and Georgia.

00:05:19.000 They have one blue dog Democrat, Joe Manchin. 1.00

00:05:21.000 Nancy Pelosi did not get 244 seats in the House of Representatives. 1.00

00:05:25.000 She only enjoys a seven-seat majority at most on certain days, depending on who shows up.

00:05:31.000 And the incoming administration has pledged and promised unity.

00:05:38.000 And they were not, and we'll get to exactly what they mean by unity because it's actually something very specific.

00:05:44.000 And it's important that we all know, because it's not the unity that you might think, because their definition of unity is the absence of opposition.

00:05:50.000 That's what they think of as unity.

00:05:53.000 But they have no mandate to govern with a far-left-wing agenda.

00:05:57.000 The only reason, well, there's a couple reasons, that they got in even from a policy perspective was that I am not the other guy.

00:06:04.000 And of course, there's all the, let's say, shenanigans and tomfoolery and gamesmanship, which we can dive into here, that obviously played a role in all of that.

00:06:13.000 Not to mention the fact that social media was a completely corrupted enterprise throughout the entire election where you could not even talk about Joe Biden's son without losing your Twitter account in the month of October.

00:06:25.000 They do not have a mandate to govern with the iron fist that they're preparing to govern with.

00:06:30.000 They barely control our government, barely.

00:06:33.000 But they're acting as if they have 66-seat majorities.

00:06:37.000 And so we also need to take a step back and say, in a year where we were supposed to get blown out of the U.S. Senate, I mean, lose seats that we've never lost before.

00:06:46.000 We advanced in the U.S. House of Representatives.

00:06:48.000 We won seats here in California, and you guys deserve credit for that.

00:06:54.000 Young Kim, Michelle Steele, Mike Garcia.

00:06:57.000 Darrell Issa.

00:06:58.000 Four total flips, right, Jack?

00:07:00.000 Issa.

00:07:01.000 We flipped three state legislatures and one governor across the country and lost zero state legislatures.

00:07:06.000 We have the most diverse and youngest group of Republicans probably ever, including the youngest Abu Representative, Madison Coughlin.

00:07:14.000 Great show, by the way, William.

00:07:15.000 Thank you.

00:07:16.000 How old is he?

00:07:17.000 He's 24?

00:07:18.000 He's 25.

00:07:19.000 He is as young as you can be to be a U.S. Congressman.

00:07:21.000 Have you guys heard him speak?

00:07:24.000 Madison Cauflin.

00:07:25.000 Awesome. 0.99

00:07:26.000 We have Elvira Salazar, who speaks fluent Spanish, who won in a Democrat seat in downtown Miami, Florida, Jack.

00:07:33.000 We have Burgess Owens, former NFL football player, black American from Utah.

00:07:38.000 We have Byron Douglas.

00:07:40.000 We have some amazing success stories happening.

00:07:42.000 Florida used to be something called a battleground state.

00:07:46.000 Now we might as well call it Alabama.

00:07:48.000 I mean, it is like we win by 400,000 votes.

00:07:51.000 It's not even twice.

00:07:52.000 Are we all moving to Florida shortly?

00:07:55.000 I have a mixed theory on that because I'm totally supportive of us maxing out the battleground states, but don't forsake the battle in front of you.

00:08:03.000 So I kind of have.

00:08:04.000 If there's any good people out there, California is a great place to move to now.

00:08:09.000 I mean it.

00:08:10.000 Things are turning around.

00:08:12.000 It happened in this last election.

00:08:13.000 Well, we'll talk about it later.

00:08:15.000 But I think California is going to surprise people.

00:08:21.000 I completely agree.

00:08:22.000 And you looked at...

00:08:25.000 And here, we could actually learn something from the left.

00:08:28.000 If you would have told me 10 years ago, Arizona would have two Democrat senators and send their electors to a Democrat president.

00:08:34.000 I said, what state of Arizona are you talking about?

00:08:36.000 The left was relentless.

00:08:37.000 They had a battle plan.

00:08:39.000 They implemented it.

00:08:40.000 They had faith even when things did not look good and they were perseverant and they were persistent.

00:08:45.000 The same's going to happen in California.

00:08:47.000 You will win this state back eventually.

00:08:49.000 But it's going to take that kind of dedication.

00:08:51.000 It's going to take 10 years, 15 years.

00:08:52.000 It might even happen quicker than that.

00:08:54.000 But also, let's go even just across the country.

00:08:56.000 Ohio, Trump won by eight and a half points.

00:08:58.000 Iowa, we won by eight points.

00:09:00.000 We, across the country, this is the first time since 1907, that the incoming president has less seats in the House of Representatives, meaning he had no coattails whatsoever.

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00:10:13.000 And so we can get into that too.

00:10:17.000 That's not the overanalyzing of certain things.

00:10:20.000 That's a whole different thing.

00:10:22.000 But look, here's the thing, everybody.

00:10:23.000 It feels awful.

00:10:24.000 I get it.

00:10:25.000 But it wasn't a blowout.

00:10:26.000 It wasn't.

00:10:27.000 We won places we weren't supposed to win.

00:10:29.000 We advanced territory.

00:10:30.000 There's two states that are big problem childs that are back in play almost instantaneously, Arizona and Georgia, that have got to fix the way we do elections in this country.

00:10:38.000 And that's got to be priority number one.

00:10:40.000 This mail-in ballot nonsense has got to stop when we are just throwing ballots all over the place.

00:10:45.000 It has to.

00:10:46.000 And Jack, Georgia and Arizona have Republican legislatures.

00:10:51.000 They have Republican governors.

00:10:53.000 And they have to start taking marching orders from their constituents.

00:10:56.000 Where Georgia had, at its most, 225,000 mail-in ballots back in 2016.

00:11:03.000 They had 1.2 million mail-in ballots this last November.

00:11:06.000 Now, just from an economy of scale, imagine, Jack, if six times, well, you already actually know what this is like.

00:11:12.000 Six times the amount of people show up for a Sunday service than you anticipate.

00:11:15.000 It's a bad example.

00:11:16.000 But if anyone else out there that doesn't have booming, wonderfully flourishing churches doesn't know what that's like, the point is that you don't have the infrastructure to be able to facilitate that.

00:11:26.000 So what do they do?

00:11:27.000 Well, because Stacey Abrams believed she never gave up, she was well-funded. 1.00

00:11:33.000 She changed the way elections were done in Georgia. 0.86

00:11:36.000 Less convinced about persuasion and more convinced about actually the mechanics of how elections are done.

00:11:43.000 So the signature verification threshold was changed.

00:11:46.000 Yes.

00:11:46.000 Where kind of a scribble is more acceptable than actually what exactly it says in your driver's license.

00:11:51.000 These sort of kind of boring, inconsequential, more legal fights never concerned us as conservatives.

00:11:57.000 Because what exactly it's in the courts?

00:12:00.000 And all of a sudden we realize in an election on the margins, when you have 20,000 votes being rejected, when 97,000 votes were rejected back in 2016, that's the difference between winning and losing Georgia and with it the United States Senate.

00:12:13.000 And that has to be one of the top marching orders there.

00:12:15.000 But here's the other thing that I think is really promising: is that the Democrats did not win anywhere on any of their ideas or policies.

00:12:23.000 Think about this.

00:12:24.000 The only places that they won was pretend, just pathologically hating Donald Trump and running on moderate policies.

00:12:32.000 They did not win on any of the things that they are now espousing in the United States Senate.

00:12:36.000 Nowhere did people show up and say, you know, I want a Democrat so we can have a robust debate on gender pronouns in the United States Senate.

00:12:43.000 No one showed up and they said, you know what?

00:12:45.000 I want a Democrat because I think it's about time we say a woman after we say a prayer in the United States Congress. 0.78

00:12:51.000 You guys know what he's talking about, right? 0.95

00:12:53.000 Amen.

00:12:54.000 Okay?

00:12:55.000 Just in case you missed that.

00:12:56.000 No, they're just getting started, right?

00:12:59.000 And that's one of the other reasons I have hope, and we'll get into that.

00:13:02.000 But if conservatives play their, if we do things the right way, and if we don't allow them to break our will, here's one promise I have for you tonight.

00:13:13.000 More than anything else.

00:13:14.000 It's a guarantee.

00:13:16.000 So we know the laws of gravity.

00:13:17.000 We know the laws of nature.

00:13:18.000 We know the laws of thermodynamics.

00:13:20.000 And there's the laws of the left.

00:13:21.000 The left screws up everything they touch.

00:13:24.000 Everything.

00:13:27.000 Everything.

00:13:30.000 Force equals mass times acceleration.

00:13:32.000 An object at rest will stay at rest.

00:13:35.000 And everything the left touches will get to utter and complete ruin.

00:13:38.000 And so they are unable to govern.

00:13:40.000 Now, you might say, Charlie, that's an over-exaggeration.

00:13:43.000 No, it's absolutely true.

00:13:44.000 And here's why.

00:13:45.000 Because every one of their policies run contrary to God's laws and God's nature.

00:13:50.000 Every one of them.

00:13:51.000 And so this happens in California, Illinois, New York.

00:13:53.000 So there's a collision point where all of a sudden they spend money they don't have.

00:13:57.000 They fight against biology.

00:13:59.000 They try to program human beings against natural incentives.

00:14:01.000 And then people say something.

00:14:02.000 And this is going to take like 100 days.

00:14:05.000 I want the Republicans back in charge.

00:14:07.000 Please, what is going on?

00:14:08.000 You got Chuck Schumer arguing to add Puerto Rico as a state, AOC screaming, and then there's going to be an opportunity.

00:14:14.000 I guarantee you this, and these slim majorities, the Democrats will mess this up.

00:14:17.000 They will.

00:14:19.000 And they're in control of everything.

00:14:21.000 They're terribly divided.

00:14:23.000 And they are.

00:14:23.000 They're against each other.

00:14:24.000 Yeah, and that's the other takeaway and the hope that I have right now.

00:14:28.000 And I pray we can be more in lockstep than the Democrats because now they're going to fight over the feast.

00:14:34.000 And they don't have a lot of margins to fight over the feast.

00:14:36.000 We're talking about a 50-50 tie that would require calling in the vice president to break that tie, which is no small feat to just go through that and the filibuster is still intact.

00:14:46.000 And that would take Manchin and Mark Kelly and Tester to all agree to vote on that, which is it's easier said than done.

00:14:53.000 And the Democrats are now actually going to have to demonstrate to the American people what exactly they believe and why they believe it.

00:15:01.000 You have the keys to the kingdom, Joe Biden.

00:15:02.000 What are you going to do?

00:15:03.000 What do they do on day one? 0.81

00:15:05.000 Kill thousands of jobs, Keystone XL Pipeline, Dakota Access Pipeline.

00:15:08.000 Mask mandate that he doesn't even honor himself when he goes to the Lincoln Monument.

00:15:12.000 It took him like an hour to violate that.

00:15:16.000 The U.S. Israel Embassy Twitter account got changed and changed back from U.S. Embassy to Israel to the U.S. Embassy to Israel, Gaza, and the West Bank.

00:15:26.000 That's just like in the first five hours.

00:15:27.000 So I got criticized for putting up fake news when I put that up about the embassy.

00:15:37.000 Because they changed it back.

00:15:39.000 Do you know what happened?

00:15:40.000 My news was true.

00:15:42.000 It was true.

00:15:44.000 But they got so much flack on the first day on the job.

00:15:48.000 They got so much flack from people seeing that and responding and going ballistic on the fact that they diluted that office from being the ambassador to Israel to the ambassador of being Israel, Palestine, and Gaza.

00:16:02.000 West Bank, yeah.

00:16:03.000 West Bank.

00:16:05.000 And then they quickly changed it.

00:16:07.000 The first day on your job, you wind up flipping.

00:16:12.000 And so then people started saying, this is fake news.

00:16:14.000 I can't find this anywhere.

00:16:15.000 It's because they flipped.

00:16:16.000 I put it up there when they did it, and I left it up there as a point of history.

00:16:22.000 But now you go look and they say, Professor Judge, you're wrong.

00:16:25.000 They didn't do that.

00:16:25.000 That's because you're about five hours too late to that moment.

00:16:28.000 They got such backlash.

00:16:29.000 And everybody, they're messing up Twitter accounts in the first couple hours.

00:16:33.000 They're going to screw this thing up, okay?

00:16:35.000 Trust me.

00:16:36.000 They can't get nations correct in the first couple hours, let alone run a government.

00:16:41.000 And this is only going to replicate itself in every single agency, every single briefing.

00:16:46.000 There's some good news, though, that's just kind of sweet.

00:16:48.000 And I know as Christians, we shouldn't revel in the misfortune of others, but the nation of Uganda banned Twitter from their country.

00:17:01.000 How sweet is that?

00:17:04.000 The Ambassadors of Freedom.

00:17:05.000 Yeah, you mentioned, you guys, it's kind of strange because the Canadian government was all...

00:17:12.000 What's his name?

00:17:13.000 Trudeau.

00:17:14.000 Jason, Jacob?

00:17:17.000 Justin.

00:17:18.000 Justin Trudeau endorsed and was excited about Biden.

00:17:24.000 Do you know that?

00:17:26.000 Now he was.

00:17:27.000 I don't think Canadians were, but he was. 0.98

00:17:31.000 And then what happens the first day? 0.77

00:17:33.000 Keystone XL.

00:17:34.000 The first day.

00:17:35.000 Biden's going to stop the Keystone oil.

00:17:39.000 And now he's freaking out.

00:17:41.000 Canada's freaking out because they're looking at losing incredible amounts of money.

00:17:47.000 What was sad today is that with this decision, there's a, and you might know the number exactly on the front end, but there's an immediate 8,000 or 9,000 jobs lost.

00:17:57.000 And then very, very soon, because of Keystone, 43,000 jobs are going to be immediately dissolved in the United States.

00:18:08.000 Immediately.

00:18:10.000 It's just, that's tragic.

00:18:12.000 And a lot of those jobs are people that moved across the country specifically for that work.

00:18:16.000 But the agenda in the inherited is going to supersede reality.

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00:19:11.000 So Charlie, the Bible tells us God says in his word in Daniel chapter 2 that I'm the Lord, I am God, and I set up kings and I take kings down.

00:19:19.000 What's very interesting to this is that this church knows that I was arguing how much we need to as a nation get back to the Constitution.

00:19:28.000 Of course, as a church, we need to get back to the Bible.

00:19:32.000 As a nation, we need to get back to the Constitution.

00:19:35.000 Listen, the Bible is the birthplace of the Constitution.

00:19:42.000 One feeds the other and one defends the other.

00:19:46.000 The Bible doesn't need defense.

00:19:47.000 It's a sword.

00:19:48.000 It functions by itself. 0.50

00:19:50.000 But it is sure nice to have the Bible and the First Amendment.

00:19:54.000 We don't have to have the First Amendment, but we have it.

00:19:58.000 So, what's interesting is that when you look at Daniel chapter 2, that God sets up kings and he takes kings down.

00:20:06.000 God never does that by sinning or doing evil.

00:20:11.000 He cannot do evil.

00:20:14.000 The remarkable thing is that there's obviously, at least on paper, I don't know, I cannot speak for heaven.

00:20:22.000 The dynamic of what America is in right now is as epic as even as the birth of this nation in the sense that what's up?

00:20:33.000 When this nation was born, we were asking, What's up?

00:20:37.000 How could we defeat the greatest military power on earth?

00:20:40.000 But we did.

00:20:40.000 Well, it was God.

00:20:41.000 The nations of the world began to look at us because things just started happening.

00:20:46.000 We were all surprised by God's blessing 200 years ago.

00:20:50.000 Now we're at this moment where people are saying, What's up?

00:20:53.000 Rather than be discouraged because you can't figure it out, you know, everyone likes to put everything in its little proper slot.

00:21:01.000 God's doing something.

00:21:02.000 I don't understand it, but he is doing something.

00:21:06.000 And I got to tell you, this is my opinion.

00:21:09.000 This is my opinion.

00:21:10.000 2020 was a time where we obviously had a supernatural, almost vetting of the church in America.

00:21:25.000 Every church had the same Bible, but churches did different things.

00:21:30.000 History will write that report card.

00:21:34.000 But now we're in 21, and what's, we don't know, listen, we stand every day.

00:21:40.000 We're talking about this before.

00:21:41.000 This church stands every day by God's grace because the powers that be out there would shut us down in a second, and they're sharpening their swords as we speak.

00:21:50.000 We stay open by the grace of God every day.

00:21:54.000 And here's the truth, and God's been so good.

00:21:57.000 The truth of the matter is, by God's grace, we stood.

00:22:03.000 We're standing.

00:22:05.000 If you, as a church out there in America, if you didn't make the cross over into the new year standing, I don't know if you're going to get a chance to stand again.

00:22:15.000 Think about this.

00:22:16.000 Something's going on in our world.

00:22:19.000 Something's going on in America.

00:22:21.000 God's doing something.

00:22:23.000 And I just want to put a cry out to churches: you really need to open up now because there's a high probability that you may never be granted the freedom to do that from the government again.

00:22:37.000 And if you're waiting for the government to give you permission to open up, I don't think it's going to come from this current administration.

00:22:45.000 I just don't think it's going to come.

00:22:48.000 And I plead with Christians and churches: if everyone opened up right now as it were, if we believed in the last moment, in the last days, we could take our last stand.

00:23:01.000 And it could be epic for the kingdom of God if we, the church, rallied in America to preach the gospel one more time.

00:23:12.000 I think it'd be incredible.

00:23:19.000 I couldn't agree more.

00:23:20.000 And I mean, there's an honest assessment that needs to be done.

00:23:24.000 As I mentioned, this church did everything right.

00:23:27.000 And if every church was as prayerful and alert and involved as this church, especially in this last election, things would have looked a lot differently. 0.59

00:23:37.000 Especially look at the state of Georgia, state of Georgia, where you have pastors that are coming out and they are saying, we don't like the whole culture war Christianity thing.

00:23:46.000 We're not going to get involved in this election when we know the stakes.

00:23:49.000 And now all of a sudden you see the stakes of what happened.

00:23:51.000 Where you have the Christian rapper Lecrae, who comes out and campaigns for Raphael Warnock, the pro-abortion advocate.

00:23:59.000 That's the guy who we're listening to on Calov, Lecrae, who we're supposed to look up to, who, in my personal opinion, should never be allowed to perform in another church after advocating for Raphael Warnock.

00:24:12.000 Who, for Lecrae, who's a Christian rapper, he wanted to be loved and accepted by the Democrat power establishment more than standing up for truth, the pro-abortion Raphael Warnock.

00:24:24.000 So you're exactly right.

00:24:26.000 When it happens to the church in America, and there's three categories of churches right now in the country.

00:24:32.000 There's those that are apathetic and scared, refuse to open, and they remain disengaged.

00:24:37.000 There are churches that still remain somewhat closed, but they're almost become left-wing instruments of activism.

00:24:44.000 And those are, I wish they were apathetic, actually, because they're misapplying the text for something that is quite, I believe, dangerous for the country.

00:24:53.000 And then there's churches like yours, Jack, and like Rob McCoy and James Cadiz and Pastor Juergen from San Diego and John Randall and Greg Denham.

00:25:01.000 And the list goes on.

00:25:02.000 There's some fighters here in California, everybody, and across the country.

00:25:05.000 And it's a list that hopefully will continue to grow.

00:25:09.000 But here's the question.

00:25:10.000 And it was just illustrated to me beautifully by Pastor Greg.

00:25:14.000 And it was this, is, do we want cruise ship Christianity or battleship Christianity?

00:25:21.000 And that's, if we're honest with ourselves, the way that the gospel has been mistaught or taught incorrectly, is a better way to say it, to congregants across the country and Christians is the gospel will free you of all earthly responsibility.

00:25:38.000 You can go take a vacation endlessly on a cruise ship and you're never going to have to worry about anything again.

00:25:43.000 When in reality, it's like, no, once you give your life to Jesus, now you buckle up and you go into the conflict.

00:25:50.000 Now you go into the difficult situations.

00:25:52.000 Now you're going to contest for the people that do not have a voice, for the people that need salvation, for the churches that need to open.

00:26:01.000 And some pastors are saying, well, I don't want the church to get involved in politics.

00:26:07.000 They must be reading or ignoring different parts of the Bible than I am.

00:26:11.000 How are they supposed to reconcile of the heroes in the Old Testament that are portrayed as heroes that got involved in secular government for God's will, such as Daniel, Esther, Mordecai, Jeremiah, Nehemiah, just to begin the list, where all of them got involved for God's purpose in secular government?

00:26:28.000 How are they supposed to reconcile what Jesus Christ said at Caesarea Philippi when in the original Koigne Greek, Jesus Christ said, on this rock build my, we say church, but the actual Greek term is ecclesia.

00:26:39.000 Ecclesia was a secular Greek term that literally was what we're doing tonight, talking about what's happening around us, finding a way to try and make sense of the chaos as active citizens.

00:26:52.000 And you know what the Greeks used to have as the two big words when they gathered in an ecclesia?

00:26:57.000 Eleutheria and isonomia, which means freedom and equality.

00:27:02.000 Jesus knew what word he was using when that was in God's word.

00:27:06.000 He didn't use the secular word synaguge.

00:27:09.000 He didn't use temple.

00:27:10.000 Why is that?

00:27:11.000 Because Jesus wanted comprehensive Christianity, not compartmentalized Christianity.

00:27:16.000 He wanted us to be everywhere.

00:27:18.000 And guess what that means?

00:27:19.000 That means you're in the tough situations.

00:27:21.000 That means you're going up to open the church, that you're contesting in every scenario imaginable.

00:27:26.000 Here's just a news flash to everyone watching at home, not as much here.

00:27:30.000 You've grown way too comfortable as a Christian in this country.

00:27:33.000 You've been way too part of the mainstream culture, way too part of it. 1.00

00:27:37.000 You should be always swimming against that stream.

00:27:40.000 And people say, and Jack, you made a great point.

00:27:42.000 We were chatting earlier in your studio.

00:27:43.000 Well, I want to be relevant.

00:27:44.000 I want to be, you want to be relevant?

00:27:47.000 Preach the word of God if you want to be relevant.

00:27:53.000 Awesome.

00:27:58.000 So, thank you.

00:28:12.000 The temptation that is coming up against your heart and your head is to allow yourself.

00:28:19.000 Listen, the temptation you're facing now is to allow yourself to be intimidated by the mob.

00:28:29.000 I'll call it the mob.

00:28:31.000 Jesus tells us, we just heard God's word to Joshua, don't be afraid.

00:28:38.000 Be of good courage.

00:28:40.000 Be strong.

00:28:42.000 I'm with you.

00:28:44.000 In Christianity, that is the norm.

00:28:47.000 Many people today will say, I wish I lived in the days of Jesus.

00:28:51.000 Are you sure?

00:28:54.000 Listen, they were up against the Roman Empire.

00:28:58.000 I told you earlier, New York Times asked me in an interview, what are you going to do now with Trump not being the president?

00:29:07.000 I said, are you serious?

00:29:08.000 That's the best question.

00:29:09.000 I told the guy I insulted him.

00:29:10.000 I think he'll never call me back.

00:29:12.000 I said, are you serious?

00:29:13.000 That's the best question you have.

00:29:14.000 I said, how about this?

00:29:16.000 We survived Nero.

00:29:17.000 We've been around for 2,000 years.

00:29:20.000 Leaders come and go.

00:29:21.000 Our leader died on the cross and rose again from the dead.

00:29:24.000 Are you kidding me? 0.97

00:29:28.000 I said, it was never about people, how can you endorse someone who's womanized and all this stuff?

00:29:35.000 It had nothing to do with the person.

00:29:38.000 It had to do with his policies.

00:29:40.000 If a candidate, I don't care what color they are, I don't care what status they are, I don't care what party they're with, if they have policies that honor God in the word, they're going to get my vote.

00:29:53.000 And that's just it.

00:29:56.000 And so as believers, listen, there is a real movement now being engineered.

00:30:02.000 Charlie can talk about it better than I can.

00:30:04.000 The cannon, did you ever see those World War II movies where they're cranking the cannon, the guy's going like this, cranking the cannon, and the cannon's going like this?

00:30:12.000 That guy's going like this. 0.97

00:30:14.000 They're moving their cannon right now toward the Christian community in America right now. 0.97

00:30:21.000 Why? 0.65

00:30:22.000 Because they know that something happened in this last election among the Christian community.

00:30:28.000 What was it?

00:30:28.000 Why?

00:30:29.000 It wasn't Trumpism.

00:30:31.000 It wasn't the Trump cult.

00:30:33.000 It was, and they're not going to get it.

00:30:34.000 They just don't get it.

00:30:36.000 We're blue in the face telling them.

00:30:38.000 It was because they were pro.

00:30:41.000 Trump and many of the red candidates were pro-life.

00:30:47.000 It's the pro-life issue.

00:30:51.000 But they don't get it.

00:30:53.000 And so they're going to lower their weapon at you, so to speak.

00:30:57.000 I like what our friend Ben Shapiro says.

00:30:59.000 I refuse to be intimidated.

00:31:01.000 Isn't that a great line?

00:31:02.000 I refuse to be intimidated.

00:31:04.000 Listen, no one should be more able to deflect attacks than the Christian.

00:31:13.000 We know what our mission is, and that is to bring every man, woman, boy, and girl into the love of God and the forgiveness of Christ into heaven.

00:31:20.000 That's our mission.

00:31:22.000 And we are to go all around doing good.

00:31:24.000 That means blessing all of those, including our enemies.

00:31:28.000 And we are to let the light so shine.

00:31:31.000 One more thing before Charlie jumps in here.

00:31:34.000 He mentioned about being a light or shining.

00:31:38.000 And I thought, how precious is a candle?

00:31:42.000 When you're walking around and you need, you know, when your power's out, do I need to tell you that in California?

00:31:49.000 The next time your power goes out, and if you have a candle, have you noticed how much you protect that candle when you're walking around down the hallway or wherever you're at in the kitchen?

00:32:00.000 You protect it.

00:32:02.000 The church today needs to protect its witness, which is its candle.

00:32:06.000 Jesus says, I walk through the midst of the seven lampstands.

00:32:11.000 And how many times in the book of Revelation did he warn those churches, you better shape up or else you're going to lose your witness?

00:32:20.000 He says, you better watch out or else I'm going to remove your candle.

00:32:25.000 Wow.

00:32:27.000 We need to enshrine for Christ and ensure our witness for Jesus, lest we find ourselves, right, not illuminating any light at all, not being a light in a dark place at all.

00:32:41.000 We need to protect that light and protecting that light is exactly what we talked about, opening up, being bold in the Lord, being strong in him.

00:32:49.000 But by all means, Christian, find your voice.

00:32:53.000 And this is where you find your voice right here, okay?

00:32:59.000 And to the point, Jack, of what you're saying, if you think about it, the left, which is just a filler term for the current power structure, and it's different than liberals.

00:33:09.000 I have a lot of respect for liberals.

00:33:11.000 They're really, really hard to find.

00:33:12.000 Classical liberals, people that value freedom of speech, that are okay with differences of opinion, that the way liberals should be and the way they used to be, where they might be more socially liberal on certain issues, but they will fight tooth and nail to make sure you're able to still assemble and speak.

00:33:31.000 We now have leftists running our government, which is a completely different philosophical way of looking at the world.

00:33:37.000 And if you think about it, what is the one thing they do not control currently?

00:33:42.000 They control academia.

00:33:44.000 They control all of the companies.

00:33:45.000 They control our tech companies.

00:33:47.000 They control our media. 0.87

00:33:48.000 They control our civil service. 0.97

00:33:50.000 They control our government. 0.89

00:33:51.000 They control our military. 0.73

00:33:53.000 They control our intelligence. 1.00

00:33:55.000 They control our unions.

00:33:56.000 I could go on and on and on.

00:33:58.000 The only thing they've never really been able to get their hands around, but they're trying, is the church.

00:34:04.000 And they're trying where now you have an openly pro-abortion senator from Georgia who's a reverend, calls himself a reverend.

00:34:04.000 Yep.

00:34:13.000 And he's now going to be going on the United States Senate invoking the name of God, using scripture to justify one million abortions every single year.

00:34:24.000 And so for pastors that say, well, I don't like getting involved in politics, well, hold on.

00:34:29.000 Politics is coming to your church whether you like it or not.

00:34:32.000 And the reason they say that, I'm going to say this as lovingly as I can, Jack.

00:34:37.000 The reason they say that could be for a couple reasons.

00:34:40.000 The first reason, I'll give them the most benefit for the doubt, the benefit of the doubt.

00:34:43.000 They don't know politics and they're a little intimidated by it.

00:34:46.000 I think some pastors fall into this category.

00:34:48.000 I think some pastors are like, ah, I don't quite get it.

00:34:51.000 I don't like that excuse.

00:34:53.000 Ask questions, find people that do understand it, because we're more than willing to pour in knowledge about something that, quite honestly, isn't that hard to wrap your hands around, okay?

00:35:02.000 What they're really saying when they say that, though, is this is a little too controversial for me.

00:35:07.000 I kind of like the whole expanding our budgets and building bigger buildings while we're not a political church, as some churches in this 30-mile radius will say.

00:35:21.000 And yet, they're the first ones to say that America's a systemically racist country, that we have to go march in the BLM Incorporated march. 0.54

00:35:29.000 And they go and just without any basis whatsoever, start to apologize for their whiteness, which is something that happened in a church not too far from here.

00:35:41.000 And so they don't want the controversy.

00:35:46.000 And so, Jack, and I think that everyone here recognizes and realizes this: if the left gets the church, we're done.

00:35:53.000 And guess what?

00:35:54.000 They are working harder to infiltrate the church than the American church is just trying to influence, not even infiltrate, American government. 0.98

00:36:04.000 They are doing everything they can through false teaching in seminaries, through getting Christian rappers like Lecrae just completely and totally just hypnotized by this Raphael Warnick nonsense and garbage. 0.96

00:36:16.000 I mean, you said it perfectly. 0.98

00:36:18.000 Just a life issue.

00:36:19.000 You want to talk about an issue that is pretty simple to articulate.

00:36:22.000 Raphael Warnock, new senator from Georgia, calls himself a Christian.

00:36:27.000 He's perfectly okay with 1 million abortions a year, and 340,000 of them are black children every single year. 0.51

00:36:32.000 Joe Biden calls himself a Catholic, and he's perfectly okay with that happening. 0.93

00:36:36.000 I don't even have to get into the other issues such as Israel, border security, child sex trafficking.

00:36:40.000 I can't happy to get into all them.

00:36:41.000 That's a pretty easy way to be able to differentiate it.

00:36:45.000 And so the American church right now, here's the irony of it too, Jack, which I think you've kind of demonstrated, is that Americans right now are inundated with politics everywhere we go, everywhere.

00:36:59.000 And whether it's politics in social media, politics at work, politics in sports, right?

00:37:04.000 You can't watch a football game anymore without someone saying, you know, you're a racist, right?

00:37:10.000 Like, okay, I got that part, okay?

00:37:12.000 Thank you.

00:37:13.000 It's over the top.

00:37:15.000 And National Basketball Association, all that.

00:37:18.000 And yet, so people go to church to try to get clarity.

00:37:23.000 They go for a lot of different reasons.

00:37:24.000 Sometimes they get clarity for things that they're confused about.

00:37:27.000 So you think about it.

00:37:28.000 We have marriage ministries, we have prison ministries, we have youth ministries, we have summer camp ministries, we have ministries that help clothe and feed the poor.

00:37:39.000 Yet the one thing that is dominating the American conversation, which is politics, most churches say, no, no, no, we don't do that.

00:37:46.000 So are we supposed to trust you with anything you say if you're not trying to make sense of the political arena?

00:37:50.000 And Jack, that's why your church is flourishing.

00:37:52.000 Because you've had the courage to stand up and say, I will tell you what's going on in the world.

00:37:58.000 And you deserve to be rewarded for that.

00:37:59.000 I'm blessed, and you will be blessed for that.

00:38:01.000 And let me make one.

00:38:04.000 But, and I want you all to understand this, that this man right here and this church is going to make itself on a list very soon.

00:38:13.000 Because we fool ourselves and we say, they want to get rid of the church wrong.

00:38:18.000 That's right.

00:38:19.000 Yes, I see where you're going.

00:38:20.000 They want to get rid of the churches they don't like.

00:38:23.000 They would love to have a state-run church.

00:38:26.000 They'd love to have people that have religious authority justify their tyranny.

00:38:33.000 In fact, the church starts working for them.

00:38:35.000 You're just, listen, he's just speaking history. 0.90

00:38:39.000 It's exactly what Hitler. 0.87

00:38:41.000 Can I see you guys over there? 0.94

00:38:43.000 I can't see you.

00:38:45.000 Hey!

00:38:47.000 How are you?

00:38:48.000 Oh, no.

00:38:51.000 Oh, no.

00:38:56.000 I don't want to break this chat.

00:38:58.000 I know it's nice, but there.

00:39:00.000 Is that better?

00:39:02.000 Good.

00:39:04.000 Here's the deal. 0.99

00:39:05.000 Hitler did that perfectly. 0.93

00:39:08.000 Romania, Poland, the Soviets did that. 0.93

00:39:12.000 They didn't abolish church.

00:39:14.000 They went in and they looked at what churches were state-compatible.

00:39:21.000 They offered the church in those nations money.

00:39:27.000 We'll increase your pay as a pastor.

00:39:29.000 I'm not kidding.

00:39:31.000 And there were some rebels that stood out.

00:39:37.000 And I think of Richard Wombrandt.

00:39:39.000 Think of Dietrich Bonhoeffer and Niemueller and others who stood, and they didn't last very long.

00:39:49.000 They were murdered by the regimes.

00:39:52.000 But churches flourished.

00:39:54.000 I always found it bizarre knowing, I grew up in a Marine Corps home, so I heard about Soviet Union constantly.

00:40:01.000 You guys remember when the alarms would go, you're too young, but the alarms would go off. 0.59

00:40:08.000 The alarms would go off in school and we'd duck and cover because of a nuclear attack.

00:40:12.000 Remember that stuff?

00:40:14.000 Duck and cover drills?

00:40:15.000 You guys, growing up with the Soviet threat, I remember standing in Red Square in Moscow, and I was shocked that there was a church there. 0.57

00:40:26.000 There's a church in Red Square.

00:40:29.000 It's a beautiful church.

00:40:31.000 It was a state-controlled church.

00:40:32.000 That's why it stood in Red Square.

00:40:35.000 And so we're moving toward, don't be surprised if you hear more and more in the next four years about state-compliant churches, churches that don't speak about anything that gets the state's attention.

00:40:49.000 It's coming.

00:40:50.000 And in fact, this is some of the language that's already being used.

00:40:50.000 It's coming.

00:40:53.000 If you talk about, and this is one of the biggest things I want to just try to get everyone in an active posture about, because we got way too much to worry about to just kind of go through the whole self-pity thing.

00:41:03.000 And trust me, I did that for like 10 minutes and I cut it out, okay?

00:41:06.000 So I understand it because we got some real serious things that we have to make sure do not get implemented.

00:41:12.000 And let me tell you, and I've been talking about this at length on my podcast, and very few conservative commentators are actually talking about this right now.

00:41:18.000 Tucker Carlson's one of the few that has really been phenomenal on this.

00:41:22.000 But if you listen to Joe Biden's inaugural address and you listen to even how MSNBC responded to it, they said, I heard him declare war.

00:41:30.000 That's right.

00:41:31.000 He's declaring a new war, a domestic war on terror.

00:41:35.000 But it's incredibly unspecified, ambiguous.

00:41:39.000 It would be one thing if he said, there are these groups of people that are living in this part of the country, and this is the threat that they pose, and this is why we must do something about it.

00:41:48.000 Instead, the language that he used is political extremism.

00:41:53.000 Whoa.

00:41:54.000 And the other words he uses are probably more easily defined, but still those words get thrown around.

00:42:00.000 But let's just start and stop on political extremism.

00:42:03.000 What does that mean?

00:42:04.000 Exactly.

00:42:05.000 And so bills that are already being introduced in Congress, I want you guys to listen very carefully about this, are almost carbon copies of the post-9-11 Patriot Act, where now they want a new domestic war on terror that could be an endless war here in the country.

00:42:22.000 They love endless wars, but this one will not take the kind of positioning in the Kandahar Valley.

00:42:30.000 This one can happen right here in Camarillo, California.

00:42:34.000 And we have the Fourth Amendment for a reason.

00:42:37.000 So that government has to get a warrant before they spy on you or they kick down your door.

00:42:43.000 And so what is beginning to be proposed because of the tragic events on January the 6th that no one in this church supports philosophically or morally is now grouping 75 million people into an event and saying, because of that, we must now have increased power.

00:43:01.000 By the way, we already have 52 domestic terrorism laws on the books in this country, 52.

00:43:06.000 But they want a new law that's primarily being pushed by Congressman Brad Schneider from the 10th Congressional District of Illinois that would give increased power for monitoring, surveilling, and potentially infiltrating groups.

00:43:21.000 You had a person that used to run an intelligence agency use this term, that the problem, amongst other things, are libertarians and religious fundamentalists.

00:43:34.000 They could categorize every person that is in this room as a religious fundamentalist.

00:43:40.000 Why are they doing this?

00:43:42.000 It's because they actually know they're really, really bad at governing and their ideas are going to kind of fail.

00:43:48.000 So they need a reason to stay in power, everybody.

00:43:51.000 And the reason that they're going to give now is: our policies might be unpopular and terrible and awful, but we're not them.

00:43:59.000 Therefore, give us more power to spy, surveil, infiltrate, and thwart.

00:44:03.000 When in reality, we know this, that we were disgusted by those events.

00:44:08.000 That we knew that there were people that got caught up in it that said they made the biggest mistake of their life.

00:44:14.000 They were professional agitators.

00:44:16.000 There were people that were BLM.

00:44:17.000 And yes, there were people that are not in any Trump movement I've ever been that call themselves Trump supporters.

00:44:23.000 I'm like, I don't know if that's you're a you're a part of any Trump supporter I've ever seen at the other 30 rallies I've gone to.

00:44:28.000 They're using this now as an excuse.

00:44:30.000 So what does that mean for us?

00:44:32.000 This means that we are now going to have the most consequential civil liberty fight since 9-11 for Christians and conservatives.

00:44:39.000 Where we have to say, guess what?

00:44:41.000 You want to go spy on Americans?

00:44:42.000 Go get a warrant, okay?

00:44:44.000 Go to a judge and say you're going to do that.

00:44:46.000 You want to go infiltrate a Christian or conservative group?

00:44:48.000 Go use one of the paths that already exist.

00:44:50.000 That by the way, we know they can be abused because they use it to spy on President Trump.

00:44:54.000 That we now have to understand the nuts and bolts of the U.S. Constitution. 0.89

00:44:59.000 Because I'm telling you right now, everybody, what they're trying to do is use the United States security apparatus to try and end disagreeable Christians and conservatives. 0.85

00:45:07.000 And don't take my word for it, they're saying it out loud. 0.81

00:45:09.000 So let me just put a huge wet blanket over all this.

00:45:18.000 And I want to be wrong about this.

00:45:20.000 I really do.

00:45:22.000 So I'm watching.

00:45:24.000 I'm watching what's happened this last four years.

00:45:26.000 I'm watching.

00:45:28.000 I mean, let's be honest, and I'm sorry to say this because I know agents here at this church who are incredibly precious, diligent, fantastic Christian men and women who are federal agents.

00:45:42.000 And I do not include you in this.

00:45:43.000 But isn't it sad these last four years with what we've found out most recently?

00:45:48.000 When you hear the acronyms FBI, it's now FBI followed up by a laugh.

00:45:56.000 It's FBI, what a joke.

00:46:00.000 Why?

00:46:02.000 Because James Comey's FBI violated so much of the U.S. Constitution and probably will never be held accountable for it.

00:46:15.000 There are, in the previous administration, violations of the U.S. Constitution.

00:46:22.000 We've got issues in this last election where there's violations of the Constitution.

00:46:28.000 And I'm a little concerned for this.

00:46:36.000 When President Trump said we're going to drain the swamp, none of us knew at first what in the world is he talking about.

00:46:45.000 Then we began to find out.

00:46:47.000 Then we didn't realize how deep it went.

00:46:50.000 And now we realize how global it is.

00:46:55.000 And I'm wondering now, when you have corporations like Twitter and Google and all these guys who believe they are so big and powerful that the Constitution no longer applies to them because they're a bigger country than the United States, here's my wet blanket.

00:47:15.000 I'm wondering if we are just waking up to the realization that the Constitution actually bled out and died maybe five, six, seven, eight years ago.

00:47:29.000 And we're just now realizing that the body's cold.

00:47:33.000 You've got to believe in the Constitution.

00:47:36.000 You've got to not be lawless, but submit to it.

00:47:39.000 I'm not talking Christianity. 0.96

00:47:40.000 Forget about Christianity.

00:47:41.000 I'm talking about being an American citizen.

00:47:43.000 You've got to believe in the Constitution.

00:47:44.000 That's right.

00:47:45.000 If you don't believe in it, honestly, what are you doing here?

00:47:49.000 Now, I don't mean that to be rude.

00:47:50.000 The U.S. Constitution is your governing document.

00:47:53.000 It's the guardrails to your highway.

00:47:56.000 And when you don't have a court or a law enforcement that obeys it, then I don't think I have a First Amendment anymore.

00:48:07.000 I'm living on fields right now.

00:48:08.000 Are you with me?

00:48:09.000 I don't think I actually have a Second Amendment.

00:48:12.000 And it's just a piece of paper.

00:48:15.000 And if you don't understand what it stands for and what it means and where those rights come from and the importance of it.

00:48:21.000 And Jack, I do want to reinforce something.

00:48:23.000 There are thousands and tens of thousands of heroic federal agents in our country that are the boots and not the suits that go after the worst types of people in our country.

00:48:33.000 And actually saddens me because they've been smeared by a small subset of people in Washington that decided to abuse our security apparatus.

00:48:41.000 There are people right now in this community, in this neighborhood in LA, where they wake up every day and they go to work for the Bureau and they're like, how do I get child sex traffickers in prison?

00:48:50.000 That's right.

00:48:50.000 How do I get narcotic dealers in prison?

00:48:52.000 And unfortunately, they've gotten looped in to that.

00:48:55.000 And that's wrong because those people are doing moral work and good work for our country.

00:48:59.000 And they deserve to be applauded and praised and lifted up for the great work that they're doing.

00:49:03.000 Truly.

00:49:04.000 And because a couple bad actors smeared a lot of good work that has happened in the Bureau with going after these sorts of people.

00:49:12.000 But Jack, I want to go with the social media thing for a second, if that's okay.

00:49:15.000 Of course.

00:49:15.000 I think it is, and I hate this term, existential threat, because everything is an existential threat to the left.

00:49:20.000 But it actually is an existential threat.

00:49:21.000 So that's the tragic thing.

00:49:24.000 And so if you guys follow my podcast, first of all, thank you.

00:49:29.000 I get more emails from Calvary Chapel Chino Hills people than any other place.

00:49:33.000 It's awesome.

00:49:33.000 So thank you for that.

00:49:34.000 So, Wade, you guys, Charlie knows.

00:49:39.000 How many times do I text you saying, just listen to today's show?

00:49:42.000 And Jack, it actually really lifts it, it lifts me up.

00:49:44.000 It really does.

00:49:45.000 And so it blesses me.

00:49:46.000 Thank you.

00:49:46.000 I'm listening.

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00:49:54.000 Okay.

00:49:55.000 It blesses me, and I would love nothing more than to wake up and see the Charlie Kirk show ahead of the New York Times tomorrow.

00:50:00.000 Yeah.

00:50:01.000 And so that's kind of fun, right?

00:50:02.000 Do it.

00:50:03.000 Do it.

00:50:03.000 You'll love it.

00:50:04.000 If everyone took out their phone, everyone has a podcast app.

00:50:08.000 This is one way to hear me where they can't censor me yet.

00:50:10.000 You type in Charlie Kirk show, and if you don't know what the podcast app is, find a 14 or 15-year-old near you.

00:50:15.000 Isn't it on the Apple iPhone?

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00:50:22.000 If every person did it, it catapults us in the charts and it blesses us.

00:50:26.000 So we've been talking about this a lot.

00:50:28.000 No, thank you.

00:50:28.000 It really helps me.

00:50:29.000 Thank you guys.

00:50:30.000 It helps us.

00:50:30.000 And it helps us reach millions of young people every single month.

00:50:34.000 And our numbers have been phenomenal.

00:50:35.000 And guess what, Jack?

00:50:36.000 This church helped build the foundation of which we built our show on.

00:50:39.000 I remember.

00:50:40.000 And so thank you.

00:50:40.000 And I mean that.

00:50:41.000 And so we've been talking about the tech issue for quite some time.

00:50:45.000 And what good is the First Amendment if you do not have the capacity to actually spread these ideas?

00:50:51.000 And so we need to take a step back here.

00:50:53.000 And I'm so glad you mentioned the Soviet Union because there's a couple takeaways here.

00:50:57.000 You guys remember Ronald Reagan, 1980, when he said that the phenomenal president from this wonderful state.

00:51:03.000 And he said that really he posed big government and the Soviet Union as threats to our country.

00:51:10.000 And that was correct. 0.55

00:51:12.000 Now we kind of have a new power system that has been created in our country where we have two governments.

00:51:18.000 We have the government of Silicon Valley and Menlo Park and the government of Washington, D.C.

00:51:22.000 We have a federal government and we have a tech government.

00:51:25.000 We got to reteach civics in our country.

00:51:27.000 That's right.

00:51:28.000 And this is a whole new phenomenon.

00:51:30.000 Has not happened since the early 1900s, where so few controlled so much, and computer processing power was non-existent when J.P. Morgan Chase existed, right?

00:51:40.000 When he lived in Rockefeller and Carnegie.

00:51:42.000 They had a lot of industrial power, but they didn't really have the power to go shut up someone on the side of the street.

00:51:47.000 You go think of Andrew Carnegie, he didn't have the power to say, I don't like what that guy's opinion is.

00:51:51.000 They'd say, I'm sorry, we have a First Amendment in this country.

00:51:53.000 Wow.

00:51:54.000 Now you have Jack Dorsey, who has less money than Carnegie ever had, and he says, I don't like that opinion.

00:52:00.000 Make him disappear.

00:52:02.000 And so I want to just go through a thought exercise with you guys for a second.

00:52:05.000 We have two governments: one that is private, and I put that in air quotes, one that controls communication, and one that you have elections and you're able to have some voice.

00:52:17.000 Which one is more powerful?

00:52:19.000 And there's not necessarily a right or wrong answer to that.

00:52:21.000 Some people say the federal government is absolutely more powerful.

00:52:24.000 The federal government can audit you.

00:52:25.000 True.

00:52:26.000 That's right.

00:52:26.000 The federal government can put you in prison.

00:52:28.000 100%.

00:52:29.000 You're right.

00:52:30.000 But do you know the one thing that the federal government you can do that you can't do to these tech companies?

00:52:34.000 You can have a lawyer present when you get accused.

00:52:37.000 You have due process.

00:52:38.000 You could sue your government.

00:52:40.000 You could find out what you're being charged for, you know, like basic rights of knowing why you're going to jail.

00:52:46.000 Silicon Valley government, Menlo Park government, no, no, no, no.

00:52:50.000 Your whole digital existence can disappear instantaneously without explanation.

00:52:55.000 Your whole digital capacity to exist.

00:52:57.000 I'm talking about who you are.

00:52:59.000 Go look at your screen time.

00:53:00.000 I guarantee you there's people that spent six, eight, 10 hours on your phones today.

00:53:04.000 You're a cyborg, and that's okay.

00:53:05.000 We can get into that a different time.

00:53:07.000 But insofar that we have now basically surrendered to these devices, that's a troubling thing.

00:53:13.000 Again, a different speech for a different time.

00:53:15.000 Your existence is now part of these tech companies.

00:53:19.000 And some people are like, you know what, you know what they used to say, Jack?

00:53:22.000 Go start a competitor.

00:53:24.000 Okay, parlor. 0.89

00:53:25.000 We tried.

00:53:28.000 What do we do with the competitor, right?

00:53:29.000 Great guy, John Mates or Matsy, great.

00:53:31.000 I've met with him a couple times.

00:53:32.000 I was one of the first parlor accounts.

00:53:34.000 I love competition.

00:53:35.000 I want to believe in the ideal of entrepreneurship.

00:53:38.000 And in one day, one day.

00:53:40.000 One day, three $1 trillion companies that have really nothing to do with the social media space-one in hardware primarily, one in search engine ostrichization, and one that controls servers-colluded together and said, You shall not exist.

00:53:57.000 And they basically wiped off parlor from the face of the universe no different than Star Wars getting rid of a planet.

00:54:04.000 It's absolutely true.

00:54:05.000 No, that's dead serious.

00:54:06.000 Think of the power of that.

00:54:07.000 That's why I'm telling you: the big tech companies that we feed, boy, is this going to get knocked off the air.

00:54:13.000 Well, no, Jack, you could talk about it how I did.

00:54:16.000 I'm just talking in.

00:54:17.000 There are companies that exist with certain iconic logos that do not believe the Constitution applies to them.

00:54:27.000 So they can do that.

00:54:30.000 But my question is: why didn't some legal entity to protect us say to them, if you censor one more American citizen, we're going to yank your license to be able to function in this country?

00:54:49.000 And why not?

00:54:50.000 Let me tell you why.

00:54:53.000 Please.

00:54:53.000 So one of the main reasons that we allowed these tech companies to get so powerful is, and this is just an honest assessment that we have to take in the conservative movement, is we were handcuffed for this false idea of free market principles.

00:55:05.000 I'm a Milton Friedman guy.

00:55:07.000 I love it.

00:55:08.000 However, we also have to say what's the best thing for the country, and is this actually a free market?

00:55:12.000 Have we given them Section 230 immunity?

00:55:15.000 Are they operating as a free market?

00:55:17.000 So every time anyone popped up their head and they're like, we should probably not let Facebook do this.

00:55:23.000 All of a sudden they said, I thought you were for the free market.

00:55:25.000 And they stopped all conversation as if they were reading the Ten Commandments.

00:55:30.000 And there is no dogmatic, there should be no dogmatic driving belief where it's like, thou shalt never challenge the tech companies.

00:55:38.000 Like, okay, that's insane.

00:55:41.000 And it's bad for the country.

00:55:43.000 And so, what it's ended up being is that we've hid behind these free market principles.

00:55:47.000 And now, not having a free market, you have three $1 trillion companies that control everything.

00:55:53.000 And so, here, and here's the other part of it: that's the grim reality: is that these massive companies started to staff all of their companies with graduates from college campuses that learned to hate the country and were well equipped to be able to use that newfound power.

00:56:10.000 I want you to think about it.

00:56:11.000 You just graduated from Caltech, great school. 0.97

00:56:13.000 You've been taught America is terrible, Christianity is false, that Christian Americans are the problem. 0.77

00:56:19.000 And all of a sudden, you've been given the night shift at Google. 0.98

00:56:23.000 No, no, seriously, think about this.

00:56:24.000 You're earning $400,000 a year, and your job is now you've been given the task and the capacity, a button where you can make Calvary Chapel Chino Hills disappear instantaneously.

00:56:37.000 And we're supposed to believe they're not going to abuse that power.

00:56:39.000 That's why we're conservatives after all, right?

00:56:41.000 We think government's going to do that to us.

00:56:43.000 Of course, Silicon Valley is going to do that to us.

00:56:45.000 And so, we're in this new environment.

00:56:48.000 And I'll tell you the positive of it, Jack.

00:56:49.000 Where the only positive after what happened, because Amazon hosted the servers, they took Parlor down.

00:56:54.000 Google said you're no longer in the Android store, Apple said you're no longer in the Android store.

00:56:58.000 Three different CEOs, three different formation documents, three different ticker symbols, all simultaneously said you're done.

00:57:05.000 But here's the one thing they did wrong, and I think they realize it: they did this way too fast.

00:57:10.000 Where I used to have to go around the country and persuade people around the threat of big tech.

00:57:17.000 Now I have to tell you what to do about it.

00:57:19.000 Big difference.

00:57:20.000 Now, you guys are already convinced it's a problem, right?

00:57:22.000 You're like, so now what do we do?

00:57:24.000 That's already a win.

00:57:26.000 And they overplayed their hand.

00:57:28.000 Everyone is now alert to this existential threat.

00:57:31.000 In fact, they have lost billions in dollars, which is a beautiful thing.

00:57:39.000 Beautiful thing.

00:57:42.000 But you guys know, if you attend this church, we often talk about how sin doesn't have self-control.

00:57:49.000 I should say evil doesn't have self-control.

00:57:52.000 When it gets its hand on something, it goes all out fast.

00:57:56.000 And that's exactly what happened.

00:57:58.000 But we live in a remarkable age.

00:58:01.000 And the nice thing is, there's a lot of powerful people who love freedom and/or America or God.

00:58:10.000 And they are meeting up and they're getting together and they're discussing and talking about.

00:58:15.000 So this is a good thing.

00:58:17.000 Developing companies, corporations to go up against.

00:58:20.000 And don't be fooled.

00:58:22.000 If somebody, if a group gets together and invents something to compete with Google or whoever, you know, Twitter, the moment that's out, that they are a constitutional loving company, it will decimate Twitter and all those other guys.

00:58:42.000 It will decimate them in short order.

00:58:45.000 And I'm just hoping that that expedites.

00:58:48.000 And it will, because they've just created a 75 million person consumer market that is pretty loyal in their purchasing habits and also has above average median income, right?

00:58:59.000 And so probably a bad sequence of decisions here.

00:59:03.000 Plus, you're going to get some civil libertarians and some honest liberals over there.

00:59:06.000 So you're talking about like 100 million people that are kind of saying, wait a second, I buy everything from three companies.

00:59:12.000 Something's not right here.

00:59:13.000 And all those companies don't represent my values.

00:59:14.000 And the other thing, Jack, is that you're exactly right.

00:59:16.000 It's the Genesis 11 truth, which is that anything that is built without God's blessing to try to challenge his authority, God will scatter and crumble.

00:59:25.000 The Tower of Babel, right?

00:59:27.000 They are going, they're trying to build something so big and so great that they'll get confused and scattered, and they don't know what direction they're in.

00:59:36.000 And yeah, please.

00:59:37.000 No, no, you're sorry.

00:59:39.000 But what you're saying segues perfectly into what the Bible talks about in the last days.

00:59:46.000 The world is going to have a need, a drive for a global governing empire.

00:59:54.000 The Bible talks about that in great detail.

00:59:57.000 And it is the medium by which it envelops the world through a one economic system.

01:00:06.000 And the Bible tells us that it's not cash, it's not currencies.

01:00:11.000 The Bible tells us, think about it, a 2,000-year-old document says that in the last days, the world will do its buying and selling through numerics, numbers, not currency, numbers.

01:00:24.000 That no one will be able to buy or sell Revelation chapter 13 in those days unless they have the number of that governing world leader.

01:00:34.000 And kind of a little bit of a segue to this is: isn't it interesting right now?

01:00:39.000 The world, and I really feel sorry for part of the world right now that's just shaking in its boots because they look to the United States to protect them against China's encroachment upon Taiwan.

01:00:52.000 Taiwan's a sit and duck right now.

01:00:54.000 Yeah.

01:00:55.000 South Korea, Japan, Singapore, that part of the world.

01:01:03.000 The leader, the one standing leader for freedom is now gone in the person of Trump.

01:01:12.000 And those nations are terrified.

01:01:14.000 But the Bible, look around the world.

01:01:16.000 Where's their leaders?

01:01:18.000 What names pop up?

01:01:20.000 Trump's gone.

01:01:23.000 It doesn't matter what your opinion is of him.

01:01:25.000 He was a global, he was the global leader.

01:01:27.000 Nations looked to him.

01:01:28.000 He's gone.

01:01:30.000 So check this out.

01:01:32.000 What an amazing moment we're in where the world is going to start crying out for a leader.

01:01:37.000 And Daniel tells us that the world will cry out for a leader who will bring them peace and prosperity.

01:01:45.000 That's what the Bible says.

01:01:47.000 And that guy comes on the scene.

01:01:49.000 He's going to give a seven-year peace treaty to Israel. 0.66

01:01:52.000 And he's going to dupe the world, the Bible says, by prosperity. 0.92

01:01:57.000 And the way they do it is numerics.

01:01:59.000 Everyone will have to sign up to buy or sell with his number.

01:02:05.000 666, the Bible says, is his number.

01:02:08.000 What an amazing time we're in because, you know, we've got high-tech, which I personally believe that that trinity of companies you just mentioned a moment ago, they could pick up the phone and call the White House now and say, you will do what we say because we can make you go away or we could block your communication just like we blocked the other guy.

01:02:31.000 That's right.

01:02:32.000 And it's quite a remarkable moment. 0.98

01:02:33.000 If you're not a Christian tonight, I would love to know why you're not. 1.00

01:02:38.000 I can promise you this: you got a really bad excuse for why you're not a Christian tonight.

01:02:44.000 But this Bible talks about the God who loves you and He wants to give you meaning and purpose.

01:02:50.000 And He's your answer.

01:02:52.000 Are you fearful?

01:02:53.000 You don't need to be fearful.

01:02:55.000 God will come in by His power and give you comfort.

01:02:58.000 You don't need to be afraid at a time like this.

01:03:00.000 In fact, people say, Well, everything's falling apart.

01:03:02.000 Well, my Bible says everything's fallen together.

01:03:06.000 You really need to know that.

01:03:08.000 So it's awesome words.

01:03:13.000 And in this time, we receive a lot of feedback from people across the country.

01:03:19.000 You guys know the email, freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:03:22.000 If you want to reach me, I read every single email.

01:03:24.000 And I really enjoy doing it, Jack, because I get a pulse of tens of thousands of people of where they're at and what they're thinking.

01:03:31.000 And there's a lot of people that are depressed and upset.

01:03:35.000 And that's okay.

01:03:36.000 But if that translates into apathy and disconnection, then that is not okay.

01:03:43.000 The enemy would love nothing more than for you to be tempted to do nothing.

01:03:49.000 Understand that inaction is a temptation.

01:03:53.000 So it's a sin of sloth.

01:03:56.000 It's a sin of being sedentary, being stationary.

01:04:00.000 And so at this moment, what is the hard thing to do that is also the right thing to do?

01:04:05.000 To stand for righteousness, to contest for truth, to go take new terrain, to build new.

01:04:11.000 That's hard.

01:04:12.000 Because guess what?

01:04:12.000 If you do those things, I have a promise for you.

01:04:14.000 I promise you.

01:04:15.000 You will have more opposition than anyone before you, and you will be persecuted.

01:04:20.000 So my pastor, Pastor Rob McCoy, I met with him over the weekend, amazing guy from Calvary Chapel, God Speak, and he's been awesome.

01:04:27.000 I want to get to Mike McClure in a second, too, because I don't want to forget that.

01:04:30.000 But I was meeting with him.

01:04:31.000 I said, Rob, I got to ask you.

01:04:34.000 And I was kind of in just this, I don't want to say like snarky mood, but I was just kind of upset, right?

01:04:39.000 Everything seemed to just be falling apart.

01:04:41.000 Anyone been there lately?

01:04:42.000 It's just, everything's terrible.

01:04:43.000 It's awful.

01:04:45.000 Even just everything's terrible.

01:04:46.000 I get it.

01:04:47.000 And so I was like, Rob, are you sure it says this in James 1, where we're supposed to rejoice and be thankful in persecution?

01:04:54.000 I don't like anything about this.

01:04:56.000 Like, where's the part of like playing the oppression Olympics and self-pity and self-loathing?

01:05:00.000 And, you know, you kind of take a couple weeks off.

01:05:03.000 And, you know, Rob chuckled, of course.

01:05:04.000 He's like, no, we're supposed to rejoice in these trials.

01:05:07.000 Ask for wisdom.

01:05:08.000 God will give it generously.

01:05:09.000 It's one of the few things God tells us that He'll give to us generously.

01:05:12.000 And so then you have to make the conscious act of, Am I going to resist this temptation right now of just kind of being just unpleasant to be around?

01:05:22.000 Am I going to submit to this temptation?

01:05:24.000 It says it in James 1 that God will never tempt you.

01:05:27.000 That's right.

01:05:27.000 But the trial will only make your faith stronger.

01:05:31.000 So what if all of a sudden this is a trial for us to really test our faith, test these muscles, right?

01:05:36.000 We've given our life to Christ.

01:05:37.000 We worship, and God says, let's see it.

01:05:40.000 Let's test out those muscles right now.

01:05:42.000 Can you go through this marathon, this race that's an endure, that's endurance?

01:05:47.000 And what I want to say is, it's not a sprint.

01:05:50.000 Some of you guys, this last election that I've been talking to, it's like I ran this through and it's like a 100-meter dash.

01:05:55.000 I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, we got a 100-mile marathon to run, man.

01:05:58.000 That's right.

01:05:59.000 Like, I know you went through the Trump thing and it was your first time getting involved in elections, but I've been part of winning elections and losing elections.

01:06:04.000 Let me tell you what.

01:06:05.000 And I'm only 27 years old.

01:06:07.000 I've been part of the greatest political comeback and upset in American history in 2016 and most disappointing moment when I realized that Donald Trump won't serve more four more years.

01:06:16.000 This is a marathon race that we're in right now, right?

01:06:18.000 And it's not just like, oh, Trump lost.

01:06:20.000 They did this in Georgia and Arizona.

01:06:22.000 I'm done.

01:06:22.000 I'm never voting again.

01:06:23.000 Like, really, that's your commitment to the cause.

01:06:26.000 Is that you're disconnecting because you didn't get what you wanted?

01:06:30.000 Go ahead.

01:06:30.000 We have a mutual friend, Bob McEwen, congressman out of Ohio.

01:06:34.000 Bob and Louis.

01:06:35.000 Phenomenal.

01:06:36.000 Precious, amazing people.

01:06:37.000 Bob said something years ago.

01:06:39.000 He said that conservatives fight until they lose and progressives fight until they win.

01:06:50.000 That's right.

01:06:52.000 Think of that for a moment.

01:06:53.000 Those are diametrically opposed philosophies.

01:06:56.000 The other team has the tenacity to keep going.

01:06:58.000 They believe in their God, little G, sometimes more than we do.

01:07:03.000 And I'm not saying, by the way, Charlie and I do not believe that by our good efforts, we're going to bring about the kingdom.

01:07:09.000 That ain't going to happen.

01:07:10.000 Do y'all understand that?

01:07:12.000 If you think that we can make America so sweet that Jesus has got to come back, that's really messed up.

01:07:19.000 That's not the case.

01:07:20.000 We're talking about fighting for what's right, and nobody knows the day or the hour.

01:07:24.000 Again, I hope Jesus comes back tonight.

01:07:27.000 But I am fighting, and I always have been fighting for my kids, and then now I got grandchildren, and I'm fighting for them because I don't know when he's coming back.

01:07:38.000 So we need to, the Bible says, occupy till he comes.

01:07:42.000 Okay, it's very, very important.

01:07:44.000 This is not the time, as Charlie just said, to pull back.

01:07:46.000 Especially in California, we should be radically encouraged by what happened in California.

01:07:53.000 Okay.

01:07:54.000 That's exactly right.

01:07:55.000 Was that Ben?

01:07:57.000 Is that you, Ben?

01:07:59.000 I love that guy.

01:08:00.000 He does that all the time.

01:08:02.000 He's awesome.

01:08:04.000 That's exactly right.

01:08:05.000 Listen, this is, don't, because you know the tendency is: have you ever seen an abused animal or person?

01:08:12.000 When somebody's hand goes by them, the dog flinches, or the human flinches.

01:08:16.000 Both situations are tragic.

01:08:19.000 Don't feel like that.

01:08:20.000 Don't allow that to, oh, you know, we got lost.

01:08:23.000 So what?

01:08:25.000 So what?

01:08:26.000 You get up and you fight for what's right.

01:08:28.000 This is the cool thing about it.

01:08:29.000 You could lose a thousand times in worldly or earthly courts or the social media trend.

01:08:41.000 You could lose.

01:08:42.000 But if you're standing for the right thing that honors God, when the wars are all over, then the battle's decided.

01:08:49.000 Isn't it interesting that your Bible talks about for you and I going all the way through to the end, he who endures to the end.

01:08:57.000 When the battle is all done, then the war is determined.

01:09:02.000 But the Bible tells us God has already determined the outcome of the war.

01:09:08.000 That's why we fight for the life of the unborn, or we fight to abolish human trafficking because it's an affront to God.

01:09:18.000 And what happens in our culture around us? 0.99

01:09:22.000 See, if you believe that and somebody says you're a jerk, you should sit down, you should shut up, you can't because your cause is greater than your feelings. 1.00

01:09:35.000 Your mission is greater than your likes. 1.00

01:09:42.000 All of that stuff that is fluff disappears.

01:09:47.000 You must keep fighting for what's right.

01:09:50.000 And imagine someday we may lose every battle on this earth and stand before God.

01:09:56.000 And he just might say, awesome, you got punched.

01:10:02.000 And look at you. 0.73

01:10:03.000 You're all scarred up and beat up. 0.77

01:10:06.000 And look at you. 1.00

01:10:07.000 You lost, and you were like that dumb clown at Toys R Us. 1.00

01:10:11.000 You kept punching it, it keeps popping back. 1.00

01:10:13.000 And I want to tell you right now, you may have lost every battle on earth, but you won the war.

01:10:17.000 Welcome to the kingdom of God and come on in.

01:10:21.000 It's remarkable.

01:10:22.000 It's remarkable.

01:10:23.000 Charlie, you want to do questions?

01:10:25.000 Okay, you guys, first question: should we as Christians leave social media because of the censorship, or should we stand our ground?

01:10:33.000 Charlie.

01:10:34.000 So I think that we have to create everything new.

01:10:37.000 We have to have new servers, new phones, new all sorts of different, and we got to have new hardware, and it's going to take a while.

01:10:42.000 I am not, I do not recommend social media martyrs.

01:10:46.000 I don't like people that intentionally try to violate these ridiculous rules to prove a point.

01:10:51.000 I don't think that does anyone any good.

01:10:53.000 With that being said, I think that you should try and occupy the current social media channels for as long as possible while alternatives are developed.

01:11:01.000 That's my personal opinion.

01:11:03.000 I don't think, I think there's another point of view where people say, I've deactivated my Twitter account, that's it.

01:11:08.000 That actually might be the right move for you.

01:11:10.000 It's not the right move for me.

01:11:12.000 I'm not saying that everyone should go to Twitter and consume your information there.

01:11:15.000 But I know that there are hundreds of thousands of people that are still on Twitter that I think need to hear what we have to say.

01:11:22.000 And so it's a different dynamic for whether you are a consumer of information or if you are publishing information.

01:11:30.000 Does that make sense?

01:11:31.000 So if you're out there and you're in charge of the publication side, you should occupy all of it.

01:11:35.000 If you're just consuming, though, I by all means recommend in some ways divesting from some of these platforms.

01:11:42.000 Does that make sense?

01:11:43.000 Yes, makes perfect.

01:11:44.000 And so for me, I'm going to stay on there till they just take me off.

01:11:48.000 And I'm not going to go, I'm not going to provoke.

01:11:51.000 I am not going to try and, you know, say, go make a case out of me.

01:11:54.000 I'm going to follow their rules, as ridiculous as they are, to try and get as many people converted and also get them to other platforms, right?

01:12:02.000 And try to get so that we can have that kind of pathway through.

01:12:05.000 You know what's beautiful about what he just answered?

01:12:08.000 Apparently, what's happened in the world is exactly what he just said.

01:12:13.000 There's the right amount of people, like Charlie, still on, but clearly enough people got off to shake them up.

01:12:21.000 So there's a good balance, and we'll see what happens with that.

01:12:23.000 Now, coming from the, we do need you to stay on.

01:12:26.000 On the other side over here, because you're the producer and I'm the consumer, on my end, what I would like to do, if I ever go back to Twitter, I want them to earn my love.

01:12:40.000 I agree with that.

01:12:41.000 No, I want them to say, we're sorry, we'll never do that again.

01:12:45.000 And we're going to sign this Declaration of Independence and devotion to the Constitution.

01:12:51.000 All right, then maybe I'll go out with you.

01:12:54.000 Well, and we've already kind of seen an invisible hand, and it's totally, you know, it's clumsy, but it's working.

01:13:03.000 Telegram, which, you know, people just used to use to kind of talk, now has kind of become a replacement social media platform, and they're doing a pretty good job of it.

01:13:12.000 And the media is trying to slander a platform, you know, slander Telegram because of some people that do some unseemly things on there.

01:13:19.000 But they don't do that for the other tech companies, interestingly enough, and all the nonsense they allow to happen on Facebook and Instagram.

01:13:24.000 But Telegram, we now, the Charlie Kirk Telegram, we have 210,000 subscribers on our Telegram.

01:13:31.000 And you get all the same content that you would get through all of our aggregated feeds.

01:13:35.000 So you would get all of our YouTube, podcasting, and Twitter posts.

01:13:39.000 210,000 people subscribe to it, and it comes to you like a text message.

01:13:43.000 And you could decide do you want it on notifications or not?

01:13:48.000 You could scroll through it at your liking.

01:13:50.000 You don't have to go through other comments.

01:13:51.000 You don't have to deal through all the censorship.

01:13:53.000 It is user-to-user.

01:13:55.000 So if there's a couple people you like to follow, almost every conservative has now started a new Telegram channel.

01:14:00.000 Is it a little clumsy?

01:14:01.000 Yeah.

01:14:01.000 But is it working pretty well?

01:14:02.000 It kind of is.

01:14:04.000 And that goes to show that that's where the left screwed up, right?

01:14:07.000 What they did with Parlor, obliterating it and all of this, all of a sudden you had 75 million people at once looking for alternatives.

01:14:14.000 And they have felt the market hit, and all of a sudden, new alternatives are getting created.

01:14:17.000 They overplayed their hand way too quickly.

01:14:19.000 It's so, so good.

01:14:20.000 Real quick, this is such an important question.

01:14:24.000 What can we do to ensure election integrity, statewide and national levels or at national levels?

01:14:31.000 So I have a slide that I want to put up that's called Check the Boxes.

01:14:36.000 And I'm going to be doing this on my podcast, on my radio, and everywhere I speak, where I'm going to ask people, they say, what do I do?

01:14:41.000 I'm going to ask, have you checked the boxes?

01:14:43.000 And it's just three boxes.

01:14:44.000 And so if we could get that slide up.

01:14:46.000 Okay.

01:14:46.000 It's somewhat to do with election integrity.

01:14:48.000 But people say, what do I do?

01:14:49.000 What do I do, Charlie?

01:14:50.000 What do I do?

01:14:51.000 Check these three boxes.

01:14:52.000 Let's walk through them, all right?

01:14:53.000 Number one, list every one of your school board members tonight and put them, put the names on your refrigerator on your reminder list.

01:15:01.000 And you pray for them daily.

01:15:02.000 You try to get in personal contact with them and you make a plan with other church members or friends and you try to influence local government.

01:15:10.000 I guarantee you, very few people can tell me every single one of their school board members and what they're dealing with.

01:15:15.000 Just check the box, right?

01:15:16.000 It's Sally Sue Marie, it's Dave Smith, and it's, you know, John Jones, and they're dealing with whether or not they should put the 1619 project in Chino Hills, and I took them out for coffee and I took them out here.

01:15:27.000 That's one of the boxes to check.

01:15:28.000 It's easy.

01:15:29.000 Are you currently doing that?

01:15:30.000 The second thing is this, which people might say, well, this is weird.

01:15:32.000 Why would I want to do that?

01:15:34.000 Which is learn something new every single day about this beautiful country we live in.

01:15:39.000 Remember this, that making yourself more aware of where we came from, the wisdom that preceded you, will make you stronger and better informed of how to deal with today.

01:15:49.000 Guess what?

01:15:50.000 We're not the first people ever to deal with tyranny.

01:15:52.000 I know.

01:15:52.000 It's amazing.

01:15:53.000 There have been some unbelievably thoughtful people.

01:15:56.000 So maybe it's I'm going to listen to a podcast every day.

01:15:58.000 Maybe it's I'm going to read the Gulag Archipelago.

01:16:01.000 Maybe I'm going to read social needs.

01:16:02.000 Maybe it's any one of those things.

01:16:03.000 But you're going to make a commitment like you're running on the treadmill that I'm going to learn.

01:16:08.000 And that's a thing that we don't talk about enough because if every person here every day dedicated themselves to 10 minutes of learning, all of a sudden unbelievable organic ideas are going to pop up.

01:16:18.000 And then guess what?

01:16:18.000 You're going to turn to your friends.

01:16:19.000 You're going to be like, you know what's really happening here, right?

01:16:22.000 This is liberal fascism.

01:16:23.000 And fascism came from, it's really cultural Marxism, which came from Antonio Gramsci.

01:16:27.000 And all of a sudden, you're going to be educating everyone in your local area and you're becoming alert and the left will be kind of walking in the walls and learn something new every day.

01:16:35.000 You know what I love about what he's saying, you guys?

01:16:37.000 Find something you love regarding this challenge.

01:16:39.000 Find something that you love and go for it in this genre.

01:16:44.000 And you'll love it because you're learning something you want to know and you'll retain it and become your passion and it will become convincing.

01:16:53.000 And that is something that each of you have a slice of, which is so vitally important.

01:16:58.000 And one thing regarding the list at the top is the fact that local government matters so much so.

01:17:08.000 You look at what's happening in San Jose versus what's happening here.

01:17:12.000 What's the difference?

01:17:13.000 I want to if we talk about it.

01:17:14.000 The difference is a local government.

01:17:17.000 You need to, as a believer, you need to groom yourself, get yourself ready to run for the school board when that time comes, to run for congressman or whatever it might be.

01:17:30.000 This is so vitally important.

01:17:32.000 And when you look back at our founding fathers, so many of them were believers.

01:17:36.000 Amen.

01:17:37.000 You look at Noah Webster and those guys, they loved God and they ran for office.

01:17:43.000 It's remarkable.

01:17:45.000 And so I run an activist organization, Turning Point USA, Educational Activist Organization.

01:17:50.000 And thank you.

01:17:52.000 And I think we have some Turning Point USA leaders here somewhere.

01:17:55.000 Raise your hand or sir, somewhere.

01:17:57.000 Awesome.

01:17:58.000 Over here.

01:17:58.000 And so I tell our student leaders this all the time.

01:18:02.000 The best activists we have are the most informed and most well-read activists.

01:18:06.000 Are the ones that they're like, what do I do on a Saturday night?

01:18:09.000 I'm losing my country.

01:18:10.000 You know what?

01:18:10.000 I'm going to go reread the Federalist Papers.

01:18:12.000 You might like, well, that's kind of nerdy.

01:18:14.000 Exactly.

01:18:15.000 You go back into the core roots of who we are.

01:18:19.000 And then guess what?

01:18:19.000 The Spirit will speak to you when you go through these other believers' writings and you're like, oh my gosh, this is what we do.

01:18:26.000 I didn't realize this.

01:18:27.000 And then all of a sudden, a plan will formulate.

01:18:30.000 And so that's why learning is so important.

01:18:31.000 And to the listing of your school board members, I want to make sure we get to this.

01:18:34.000 As we are having this service right now, a fellow Cavalry Chapel pastor, Pastor Mike McClure, in Calvary Chapel, San Jose, for just opening his church and worshiping Jesus is facing $1.5 million in fines, potential jail time.

01:18:52.000 Local government matters.

01:18:54.000 And Mike McClure is one of the only guys that is staying open, I think the only one in all of San Jose, fellow Calvary guy.

01:19:01.000 Why not every Calvary church in the country is standing by him?

01:19:04.000 I don't understand.

01:19:06.000 But this guy is a total hero.

01:19:08.000 And so pray for Mike McClure tonight because he is standing strong and they are talking about potentially, I don't want to say anything confidential that he shared with us, but really aggressive measures against him.

01:19:20.000 I think that's a fair way to say.

01:19:21.000 But the reason they're not doing that to Jack is because Jack is so charismatic, but also it's because...

01:19:27.000 That works against me.

01:19:29.000 That's right.

01:19:29.000 But because Jack and you guys took local Chino government seriously years ago.

01:19:34.000 That's why.

01:19:35.000 It's because you...

01:19:36.000 And that's the same thing.

01:19:37.000 No, you're exactly correct.

01:19:38.000 There was an interview taking place, and the interviewer asked, John MacArthur has had to fight for every moment since he opened up.

01:19:45.000 How is it that you guys have been open and have been just gotten through this time?

01:19:52.000 Boy, are you lucky?

01:19:54.000 And I said, excuse me, but luck had nothing to do with it.

01:19:57.000 With all due respect to Grace Church and Pastor John MacArthur, he never taught his congregation to engage in the culture and civic light or responsibility.

01:20:10.000 It was just something he just didn't want to do.

01:20:14.000 And unfortunately, now they're coping with a very hostile local government.

01:20:19.000 Where on the other side, for 30 years, this church has been praying for, contacting local government and county government.

01:20:27.000 How can we pray for you?

01:20:29.000 And getting involved in the elections and letting them know we appreciate a Judeo-Christian worldview value on this next vote or on this next issue.

01:20:38.000 There's a relationship there.

01:20:40.000 And look, it's the way that it is.

01:20:44.000 And we can become winsome as believers to the world that's around us.

01:20:50.000 And God will grant us grace and favor.

01:20:52.000 It's vitally important.

01:20:53.000 Amen.

01:20:53.000 And the last box that I encourage everyone to check, and this one might be a little bit open-ended for a lot of you, but one of the left's strategies right now is to break our will and to take strategic chess pieces off the chessboard.

01:21:08.000 Certain people that have been a little bit too disagreeable, a little bit too effective, a little bit too bold, and a little bit too courageous, they're going to try.

01:21:17.000 Remember, the left, they're in the business of the personalization of American politics.

01:21:23.000 So I want to be very clear.

01:21:24.000 Before they go after Calvary Chapel Chino Hills, they're going to try to go after Jack Hibbs because they're going to think if we can just get rid of him, they're going to try to replace it.

01:21:31.000 Or they might do it simultaneously.

01:21:33.000 This is part of their playbook.

01:21:34.000 And so that's why I encourage all of you tonight or in the coming days, just take out a list, take out a piece of paper and write a list of the human beings that you have seen gone above and beyond, worked their tail off, and have sacrificed something.

01:21:49.000 People like Candace Owens, Dennis Prager, Jack Hibbs, Rob McCoy, people like that have, they've really decided that they're going to expose themselves.

01:21:59.000 Because now here's the moment, right? 0.78

01:22:01.000 Because when they do their big push, when all of a sudden the big news agencies and all their power sources say, we want to take that one out now, because I don't like that they're being too effective in the black community or too effective here, get them, because we control everything. 0.71

01:22:15.000 The question is, will there be a support structure behind them to say no, no, no, no.

01:22:20.000 And so you say, well, how do I do that?

01:22:21.000 Well, first of all, you pray for them by name every night, you list them, and then all of a sudden you say, huh, what's one way I can support it?

01:22:27.000 Maybe with Turning Point USA, it's getting to know the local Turning Point USA chapter leaders and hosting a dinner for them once a month, whatever it is.

01:22:33.000 You guys know it.

01:22:34.000 The Spirit will speak to you on that.

01:22:35.000 It'll give you wisdom.

01:22:36.000 But we're in a moment now where not everyone's going to be able to fight every day like Jack and I do.

01:22:40.000 But that's okay.

01:22:41.000 Be someone that helps the fighters.

01:22:43.000 Because without the people that help the fighters, none of this is going to be made possible.

01:22:46.000 I really appreciate what Charlie said a moment ago.

01:22:49.000 And let me say this in front of this crowd and live, right?

01:22:58.000 What they do is they go after and they're going to target the Charlie Kirks and the Dennis Pragers and the Ben Shapiros and the, you know, that.

01:23:08.000 And so let's do this.

01:23:12.000 I think one of the ways, and in fact, the word of God, I believe, tells us when Paul says in Ephesians 6, put on the whole armor of God.

01:23:24.000 Apparently, he has no time in his exhortation to talk to people who put on half the armor of God or just want to walk around with the sword of the all of it.

01:23:38.000 We need all of it.

01:23:40.000 And so it's proactive because when you talk about the sword of the spirit, all of the weaponry that the Christian soldier is equipped with in Ephesians 6 is defensive, except the sword of the spirit, which is advanced, right?

01:23:54.000 The sword advances. 0.62

01:23:55.000 The shield protects.

01:23:56.000 Everything protects.

01:23:57.000 The sword, the word of God, moves ahead.

01:24:00.000 Having said that, I want to take the opportunity to say publicly, because I've already been told by friends who are attorneys that you need to get ready now that the way this thing has gone the last few days, Jack, you personally, not you, me, you need to make sure that you're ready for the IRS, ready for false statements being posted.

01:24:30.000 So I want to say something right now.

01:24:32.000 Lisa and I have always paid our taxes.

01:24:35.000 No, don't laugh.

01:24:36.000 It's my life.

01:24:37.000 I don't want you to laugh.

01:24:38.000 I'm pretty serious about this.

01:24:40.000 We owe the government nothing.

01:24:43.000 We pay our taxes every year.

01:24:47.000 We don't make much money, to be very honest with you.

01:24:53.000 Everything about us is public.

01:24:55.000 Most of you, if not all of you, know where I live.

01:25:01.000 I've been married, oh no, 43 years, I think.

01:25:07.000 Okay? 1.00

01:25:10.000 I sleep with one woman. 1.00

01:25:12.000 I have sex with one woman. 0.98

01:25:14.000 And it's been 43 years. 0.97

01:25:17.000 And so would you say, why are you saying that?

01:25:20.000 Because with what's coming, the way the other team works is that they throw stuff out there.

01:25:28.000 That's part of their game.

01:25:30.000 They're going to put stuff out there. 0.60

01:25:31.000 Charlie Kirk is actually a girl. 0.78

01:25:34.000 And everyone's going to go nuts. 0.96

01:25:36.000 Oh, my goodness.

01:25:37.000 And you're going to get an email.

01:25:38.000 I didn't know you were a girl.

01:25:41.000 Is that not how it works?

01:25:43.000 Well, I want you to hear right now before anything gets crazy.

01:25:46.000 If the IRS, and I've been told, you know, she's a matter of time.

01:25:50.000 Okay, I owe them nothing.

01:25:52.000 Crystal clear. 0.99

01:25:54.000 And I only sleep with my wife.

01:25:56.000 I don't do drugs.

01:25:57.000 I don't drink.

01:25:57.000 What else do you want to know?

01:26:00.000 I love Charlie.

01:26:03.000 And what Jack is talking about is funny in nature at times, but I think we're all laughing because we don't know how else to react to how serious this actually is.

01:26:13.000 It's like, yeah, because we, and yeah, precisely.

01:26:18.000 And so, but that's where all of you come in and the hundreds of thousands of people watching is that we're going to show the strength of that support network.

01:26:26.000 We're going to show the strength of us staying engaged and staying involved.

01:26:31.000 Same for you.

01:26:32.000 Do we have to run?

01:26:33.000 Yeah.

01:26:34.000 Okay.

01:26:34.000 Well, just so in closing with this, they're going to screw this up.

01:26:39.000 They're going to mess it up.

01:26:41.000 And so we have two choices.

01:26:43.000 One choice is we do a pity party and we disengage.

01:26:47.000 And then I guarantee you six months from now, nine months from now, there will be millions of people that want to come back into the Republican conservative movement.

01:26:56.000 And we will not have done our job for six months, and we will just be sitting there being like, I thought it was over.

01:27:02.000 I felt terrible in January, and I unsubscribed to all the emails, and I told them to stop texting me, and I told them I'm not going to buy another pillow, and I'm done.

01:27:12.000 No, no, no, no, buy the pillow, buy the pillow, buy the pillow.

01:27:20.000 And so that's one option.

01:27:24.000 Or the other option is we say, the more they throw at us, our will will only strengthen.

01:27:30.000 Our resolve will only strengthen.

01:27:33.000 The more that they try to break our will, the more that they try to metaphorically blitz the conservative Christian movement, we are going to rebuild by day and we will only rededicate ourselves more.

01:27:47.000 Because then, in six or nine months from now, when this entrepreneurial genius is just exploding, which I can already feel it, we're going to have new servers, we'll have new phones, we'll have new social media.

01:27:58.000 And look, it's going to be messy at first.

01:28:00.000 You're going to have like, what was that telegraph?

01:28:02.000 What was that?

01:28:03.000 Like, I have to do a podcast thing?

01:28:04.000 Yeah, it's going to get hard.

01:28:05.000 Okay, you're not going to have one place to go for everything.

01:28:07.000 And then all of a sudden, things will start to make sense again.

01:28:09.000 Because that's the way that there's a rhythm to this stuff.

01:28:12.000 And then, nine months from now, if we do our job, the Democrats will have messed everything up.

01:28:18.000 They're going to be responsible for all of that.

01:28:20.000 I do hope they succeed.

01:28:21.000 I do, because I want the country to succeed.

01:28:23.000 I'm not going to be like them, like Bill Maher.

01:28:24.000 I hope for a recession.

01:28:25.000 I actually want what's best for the country.

01:28:27.000 I just know what their policies actually end up resulting in.

01:28:30.000 But here's what's going to happen if we do our job.

01:28:32.000 Nine months from now, it'll happen like this.

01:28:34.000 We are going to be so prepared with great candidates, so enthused, precinct committeeman positions filled, all those three boxes checked.

01:28:41.000 There will be a 2022 that will make 2016 look like a ripple, and the Democrats will never get back into substantial power again.

01:28:48.000 And churches will be praying.

01:28:51.000 Christians, listen, Christians will be turning back to the Bible. 0.87

01:28:55.000 Churches will be on fire that choose to be on fire. 0.98

01:28:58.000 I think the Holy Spirit's walking around trying to catch churches on fire.

01:29:02.000 And listen, we need every church that teaches the Word of God open and every one church that doesn't stay closed.

01:29:10.000 But listen, there is going to be, I believe there's going to be a move of the Holy Spirit because I don't think God's done, I don't think God's done with America in its spiritual covenant with God.

01:29:24.000 There could be an amazing last moment of great revival and great awakening.

01:29:28.000 I pray for that.

01:29:29.000 You should prepare your heart for that.

01:29:31.000 And church, listen, finally this, and we didn't rehearse this.

01:29:36.000 Do you want to tell them about what a possible turning point, USA?

01:29:42.000 Oh, yeah.

01:29:42.000 Well, we will tease it a little bit.

01:29:46.000 But we have some very, very big ideas to bring the model.

01:29:50.000 And we think we can do this through some of our expertise at Turning Point to churches all across the country to get more people, more pastors to give them the organizational backing, to give them the leaders and the mentors like Jack to start a Calvary Chapel Chino Hills revolution across the country where pastors are doing this through Turning Point and through our organizing capacity.

01:30:12.000 I want you to imagine if by 2022, there are hundreds of pastors that are preaching with the bold conviction of Jack Hibbs.

01:30:20.000 Because I want you to imagine that.

01:30:25.000 And we believe that we are able to bring a lot of the organizational expertise and capacity.

01:30:32.000 And there'll be some really, really big announcements.

01:30:34.000 And we might want to start a turning point chapter here at this church.

01:30:37.000 I think so.

01:30:37.000 I think it might be a good.

01:30:40.000 I think it's waiting.

01:30:41.000 I think it's waiting because we want the church to get involved in the ecclesia, alert, aware, what's going on around me.

01:30:47.000 How do I bring the teachings of the Bible to local and civic government?

01:30:50.000 And so, and here's the final, final thing.

01:30:53.000 Thank you for subscribing to the podcast.

01:30:54.000 I do appreciate it because it's an over-the-top way to stay in touch.

01:30:58.000 But here's the way I'm going to keep on doing this every day on my radio show.

01:31:02.000 And here's how we're really, really going to win.

01:31:04.000 If you do not show sadness or somber and you remain a happy warrior, you want to drive the left nuts.

01:31:11.000 Do you know how angry they are?

01:31:12.000 They're still angry.

01:31:13.000 They control everything.

01:31:15.000 I'm watching MSNBC and they're still screaming and they're yelling.

01:31:19.000 You know why they're angry?

01:31:21.000 We know why they're angry.

01:31:22.000 We are the happy warriors, everybody.

01:31:24.000 We have joy.

01:31:26.000 We know how this all works.

01:31:29.000 And the more, the more good cheer, the more that kindness that we have, the more, and that's not to tolerate injustice.

01:31:38.000 Never should you tolerate injustice, but you should be compassionate and ever-loving.

01:31:42.000 They will not know how to deal with us.

01:31:43.000 They'll say, they don't control any government.

01:31:45.000 We control the companies.

01:31:46.000 Yet I'm so angry.

01:31:48.000 Precisely.

01:31:48.000 Maybe there's something we have that you don't.

01:31:51.000 And precisely, it's Jesus.

01:31:53.000 And so be of good cheer, everybody.

01:31:56.000 I know that it feels like the walls are closing in, but I'm telling you right now, this is going to be our finest moment.

01:32:03.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

01:32:04.000 If you want to support us, go to charliekirk.com/slash support.

01:32:07.000 Email us your questions, as always.

01:32:09.000 Freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:32:11.000 Thank you guys so much for listening.

01:32:13.000 God bless you.

01:32:14.000 And if you want to get involved with Turning Point USA, please go to tpusa.com.

01:32:17.000 Thanks so much.

01:32:18.000 Talk to you soon.

The Charlie Kirk Show - January 25, 2021

'This Will Be Our Finest Hour' LIVE with Pastor Jack Hibbs

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