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00:01:09.000Hey everybody, we got Jack Pasobic and Andrew Colbitt.
00:01:13.000And we are here live in studio for once for Thought Crime Thursday.
00:01:24.000But I love I actually love Thought Crime because now that I have to sort of play uh play driver for the Charlie Kirk show, it's nice because you you do this.
00:01:32.000Because I have to do it, yeah, exactly.
00:01:34.000No, but well, well, today tonight there's gonna be a ton of thought crimes because what we're gonna be doing tonight is the Mam Dani debate is coming up, and we all know how much Charlie was a huge fan of Mandami nomics, and Mandamism, and he just was was so you know, so enthralled with the idea that this uh race communist cultural Marxist was about to take over the city of New York.
00:02:03.000And obviously we're joking, but you know, tonight is the big debate, and we've got a three-way debate.
00:02:09.000So, what we're gonna do, no, Andrew's got a flight, so we wanted to come on a little bit, have a chat with him, preview the debate, then at some point he's gonna bounce.
00:02:18.000We're gonna stream the debate, so don't turn off this stream.
00:02:41.000And Blake, so this was like Blake months ago was like, hey, you know, I gotta go to Italy for because you know, family members taking the vows, and I was like, Okay, so we're just full doxing him.
00:02:50.000I was like, I was I was like, just go for it, bro.
00:05:38.000And then Andrew was roasting us because we what the three three teams in one night.
00:05:42.000Well, it was, yeah, you guys had the the clean sweep and the Dodgers won the series three.
00:05:48.000Andrew's Dodgers won the series three to one.
00:05:50.000And now we're up to two to nothing on the Brewers.
00:05:53.000And by the way, I want everybody to know out of respect for Charlie, had the Cubs overcome the Brewers and faced off with the Dodgers.
00:06:02.000I would have, I would have for Charlie, I would have been a Cubs fan for one NLCS.
00:06:08.000See, I might, I might actually be rooting for the Dodgers now because my dad used to always say that if you got beat, then you might as well say, Well, we got beaten by the champs.
00:06:30.000I actually, this whole experience, Cliff, the of the last month, and I I was used to seeing Charlie be in the media.
00:06:37.000I would book the interviews, I would, you know, we'd work on how we're gonna approach the interviews and the debates or whatever.
00:06:44.000And but it was still hard for me to calibrate because I was still so close to it, like you know, how famous Charlie was, how people were reacting to it.
00:06:53.000So I actually really think outside perspective, somebody that's that was watching on TV is truly important.
00:06:59.000So, to your to your point, Jack, Cliff, what was it like watching it uh, you know, from afar?
00:07:04.000Yeah, well, obviously, you know, I'm focused on Pennsylvania and New Jersey.
00:07:08.000Uh, and this is the heat of the moment in terms of us uh, you know, diving in there, and so didn't get a chance to get to DC.
00:07:15.000You know, what was fascinating to me, uh honestly, the the thing that stands out is kind of how Trump interacts with Erica.
00:07:23.000Um, and I mean that, you know, in a very good way.
00:07:26.000I just mean that you know, you you you hear all the time from the media and from a lot of people on the left that Donald Trump is this evil human being and just you know, completely just corrupt or whatever they say, all these these buzzwords, and then seeing him interact with Erica, you know, to me kind of brings out the grandfather in him.
00:07:45.000Um just just very delicate and somber and sweet and connects with her.
00:07:53.000And I just I mean, that obviously, you know, I I just love seeing that side of him, right?
00:07:58.000Because a lot of us want him to be a fighter.
00:08:00.000We want him to go against the deep state.
00:08:02.000We want him to be this America first warrior.
00:08:05.000I mean, the guy took a bullet uh on the ear for us, but to see that side of him, I think just kind of brings out it just makes him kind of a whole person to me.
00:08:14.000Um, and then obviously, you know, with the ceremony, I think Erica's speech.
00:08:18.000I don't want to uh, you know, say it topped the memorial or it topped her speech from the studio.
00:08:24.000Um but I just think that you know it's it's such a great message um of her just talking about, you know, where are we going from here and her referencing the turning point chapters?
00:08:36.000I mean, that you know, from afar, that struck me because she's caring about the people that Charlie would have cared about, which are you know, not the people at the top, right?
00:08:46.000It's how I always look at this thing, right?
00:08:48.000We're way at the bottom, and the people that are closest to the voters, the people that are closest to changing hearts and minds are the door knockers, are the activists, are the students on campus.
00:08:58.000And for her to reference that, that just really to me uh talks about you know, what is the future for turning point and what do things look like?
00:09:06.000Um I just thought the whole ceremony was fantastic.
00:09:18.000And and Andrew, I know so we were, you know, there in the Rose Garden, and I know there was that moment, it was kind of surreal, and and you turned to me and and you you took this picture that is now gone viral, and you pointed out it's like all of the legends of conservative media, the people that like we watched, and even the people that we watched when we were younger, uh, were all standing together.
00:09:42.000And in even in addition to the entire government being there, but this this photo, it was remind me who it was.
00:09:49.000It was so we had Bill O'Reilly, which he never comes to stop.
00:09:54.000He's there, and it's and Megan Kelly's there.
00:09:59.000And I don't know if we got all of them in you know, one picture together, but we did we got most, I think.
00:10:03.000Hannity, uh Jesse Waters, and Tucker, Tucker, Laura Ingram, Laura Ingram.
00:10:10.000Yeah, it was sort of like the past and present of the Fox uh lineup, which was noteworthy in the sense that you know, I don't think I've ever seen them photographed together.
00:10:29.000Yeah, I didn't get Glenn in that picture, but uh what what happened was that it was basically Jesse, Bill, Tucker, and Laura all standing next to us in the back, because there's you know, assigned seats, and then there's and then there's people standing, and and you you'd be surprised the the caliber of people that were standing, right?
00:10:47.000Right, and we're just we're standing right next, and then you know, all of a sudden Sean Hannity walks back, uh, I think to give a hug to Laura or something, and uh he turned around, we snapped the picture, and it was quite the moment.
00:10:59.000But there was also, you know, it there Glenn Beck was was uh around, and then we had a picture uh with Blake, you, me, uh Benny, Johnson, the crew, and I guess that picture sort of went viral too a little bit.
00:11:12.000But you know, there's something about the conservative media being there, showing up, and it speaks to the role Charlie played in that because Charlie was such a fan of Rush, and Rush had also received the presidential medal of freedom.
00:11:31.000And so there was this this interesting symmetry, this interesting parallel of like the generations of you know, so Rush is the first.
00:11:40.000Like he was the pioneer of conservative media that wouldn't exist without it.
00:11:43.000I used to think about this all the time that what made Charlie uh very exceptional just in the media landscape was that he was a bridge of generations as well.
00:11:53.000Even though he, you know, 31 years old, he had become very close with Rush.
00:11:58.000Rush, you know, was a seven-figure donor to turning point, he believed in Charlie.
00:12:04.000But you know, Charlie was also close with Sean Hannity, and he was also close with Mark Levin, and he was also close with Glenn Beck.
00:12:11.000And these, so these are the people that he grew up listening to, and then we became close with, and they were all sort of excited to hand the baton to him and let him carry on the mission and expand the mission, grow the mission.
00:12:22.000And so Charlie was uniquely positioned that way.
00:12:24.000And you could see the same thing with Fox.
00:12:26.000Like, who else could bring together these people uh from Fox News that you know had you know interesting exit stories from the the network?
00:12:38.000He spends four days in DC and he turns into a politician.
00:12:41.000Well, I'm trying to be diplomatic because anybody that was willing to make the time to go to the Rose Garden and honor Charlie.
00:12:48.000Deserves my respect, and I'm going to be respectful.
00:12:50.000Well, and Charlie, I mean, but just so we're clear, I ended up on a stage with Bill O'Reilly later that or last night and getting lectured about JFK sending in the National Guard in 1963.
00:13:00.000And you know, it was it was very fascinating.
00:13:02.000Uh I was like, you know, I appreciate Bill that you might have a little bit more historical or historical uh uh understanding about what happened in 1963.
00:13:12.000But I I think maybe I have a little bit better understanding what happened in 2023.
00:13:35.000No, that I because you know what it was though, because she was standing on the other side, and I know, but I should have grabbed the honor guard was like in between us.
00:13:43.000So it was it was sort of no, we should have grabbed her, and we saw her later, obviously, and she was great and she was a gracious, but it was there was this military honor guard that kind of separated the the space, and so you didn't really want to cross that because they were keeping the aisle clear.
00:13:58.000I don't know why they were keeping the aisle clear because nobody walked down it.
00:14:00.000But yeah, you didn't you didn't want to cross this military honor guard, but that that would have been uh obviously would have been you could photoshop it.
00:14:14.000Yeah, let me just make one comment to back you guys up.
00:14:16.000You know, I used to uh be much more of a flamethrower back in the day, and it's funny uh thinking back because Charlie was always the one, you know, who'd send me feedback on certain things and be like, listen, you know, I know that you disagree with this person, or I know that you know you think that they're the enemy at the moment, but we got to figure out a way to you know come together, right?
00:14:35.000There's got to be some coalition here.
00:14:37.000But he always talked about compromising uh without compromising your principal.
00:14:42.000And I just always like to give Charlie credit for that because there was something that he was very good at uh in a way that that not a lot of people at his level understand kind of how to put those chess pieces together.
00:14:54.000Um, but I just want to back up what you guys said.
00:14:56.000I mean, who else can get all these different media, all these different big names, all of these folks to come together?
00:15:04.000And it's Charlie the one that really, like I said, I mean, a lot of people when they get to that sort of position or that height of influence, uh, they're they're kind of forced to take certain sides.
00:15:15.000And I think Charlie was just always trying to build the coalition.
00:15:21.000He he always was he always was doing that.
00:15:23.000He he didn't believe in purity tests necessarily.
00:15:25.000I mean, you could you could cross a line and he would he would um he would give you a name check and uh up against the glass uh use a hockey expression, but most of the time he was willing to work this stuff out uh in private, and he won a lot of uh trust and admiration from people that are used to getting betrayed by people in public, basically.
00:15:45.000You think you have a friendship with somebody, and then all of a sudden you find out that uh you're you're you're getting put on blast in in in the media or whatever.
00:16:41.000Speaking directly to the chapters was I think just a brilliant stroke because it goes to show you that there's so many students out there and and more students now.
00:16:51.000And I've been I've been working with this um chapter at Rutgers, they're you know under attack, and there's other people who are you know getting you know, getting in the limelight now, and and the pressure's on, right?
00:17:01.000The pressure's on turning point, but then you also see the people who are stepping up to the plate and delivering.
00:17:08.000So you look at the tour, the thousands upon thousands of kids that are coming out to these tour stops that are still going on.
00:17:18.000Yeah, so JD Vance came on the show yesterday uh on the Charlie Kirk show from the White House, which was fantastic.
00:17:25.000And he we he announced well, I sort of announced, but then he filled in the gaps that he and Erica are going to be hitting up old Miss Oxford, Mississippi on October 29th.
00:17:36.000That'll be Erica's uh first tour stop.
00:17:49.000Yeah, uh, yeah, it's probably it probably is.
00:17:51.000I think it is uh Eric Trump, Benny Johnson, Laura Trump, and Coach Tubbille hitting up Auburn on November 5th, the one-year anniversary of uh really Cliff Maloney's call heard round the world.
00:18:05.000That's what November 5th will always be.
00:19:42.000Trump is president of the United States we've got our republic back folks let's go there it is everybody should remember this moment.
00:19:58.000Look, I'm going to echo Charlie from earlier.
00:20:01.000Remember where you were when this happened.
00:20:03.000Remember where you were when you realized that the Uniparty and all these, you know, just the establishment, you said it's time to actually participate.
00:20:21.000I think Erica was talking to some onions in the break room.
00:20:25.000No one has worked harder than Charlie for this.
00:20:27.000We got to hear some words here from each other.
00:20:29.000Charlie you put all this together my man let's hear it I I am just humbled by guys it's all got it's all good God alone got alone decision desk has it Pennsylvania it's beginning how has it been a year I can't believe how is it been not quite a year we've got two two three weeks still it's been a year but it's been a year.
00:20:59.000But I mean and well here we are again it's October right so it's election season we're you know the debate's coming up in a couple of minutes New York City yeah I we I do want to I do want to transition New Jersey Virginia when we started the Charlie Kirk show we knew that we needed to have a back end team that could really run our online store and that's why we turned to Shopify.
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00:22:44.000So I was actually, I got to be on Fox News this morning talking about just we were the reason November 5th came up, is because we have the stop with Eric Trump and Lara Trump and Benny and Coach Tupperville, which is actually was my original pitch to the vice president's office to say, hey, we should come on the day.
00:23:01.000Come on the one year, come on the one year anniversary.
00:23:04.000And they really tried, they just couldn't make it work with the schedule.
00:23:33.000Um and I was just astounded by the numbers of people who have reached out.
00:23:36.000I understand there's I think 350,000 and growing uh young people who have said we'd like to be a part of this.
00:23:42.000Um the Charlie Kirk show continues as do the events, and Vice President Vance was on your show yesterday talking about how he's going to do an event and he's gonna take some questions.
00:24:06.000Part of keeping Charlie's memory alive is keeping the mission alive.
00:24:09.000And nobody can replace Charlie, but if we all sort of take little pieces, we can do as much as we can to ensure that Charlie's mission continues to survive long after he's gone.
00:24:20.000I feel like that's gonna be must watch um TV streaming, whatever we're calling it now.
00:24:26.000And uh I just wanna give a huge shout out and hat tip uh to uh the vice president.
00:24:32.000You know, people I don't know how people imagine this working, but he had he and Usha have been so um just generous, and they have been the ones offering to help.
00:24:41.000They have been the ones saying, hey, we want to make sure that Charlie's legacy lives on.
00:25:15.000Yeah, I just I love that the vice president wants to honor Charlie by doing what Charlie did, which is he's gonna give a few minutes of remarks, but then he's gonna spend the most of his time taking questions and interacting with Charlie.
00:26:28.000And obviously, Charlie with the prove me wrongs, you know, understood that it's capturing not just stupid questions, but you know, people actually asking intellectual questions and getting a raw real-time response uh from Charlie.
00:26:41.000And that's why these turning point events, you know, I think JD's correct and and right to say, hey, let me actually take questions rather than give some pontificating speech.
00:26:50.000That's not a shot at him, that's all politicians.
00:26:53.000Um, but I think that the real thing people are looking for, we saw this in 2024.
00:26:57.000The whole election came down to authenticity, Right, people want something real.
00:27:01.000Trump going on Theo Vaughn, Trump going on, you know, Rogan.
00:27:04.000The real long conversations where you actually get responses that people have to think about, and they can judge your temperament and what you're actually, you know, where you're coming from that position on.
00:27:17.000I think that's why these proved me wrongs are great.
00:27:19.000I love that so many of these features you're taking that angle.
00:27:22.000And it's it's that real time, you know, sort of like gotta think on your feet aspect.
00:28:12.000And you know, we're seeing uh, and by the way, we're seeing a very similar, I gotta throw it out.
00:28:16.000The New Jersey governor's race, where you know, we've been doing a ton of work.
00:28:20.000By the way, new uh turning point action is holding an event this weekend with um with Chitterelli, Jack Giroly up in northern New Jersey and in up in Bergen County, and he's right, he's right behind her in the polls.
00:28:34.000If you look at the head to head, but the enthusiasm gap is huge.
00:28:39.000There is a 13-point enthusiasm gap, Chitterelli up 55, Cheryl 42.
00:29:09.000Authenticity, if you're pointing towards something good and virtuous, is beautiful.
00:29:14.000You're authentically trying to be the best version of yourself, to be honest.
00:29:18.000If you're pointing towards a moral and transcendent ideal, but Zoran Momdani is not authentically trying to point New York or aim towards a better city, he's trying to bring New York into the gutter, and authenticity without virtue is just narcissism in disguise.
00:29:50.000Yeah, we uh uh I remember gosh, it's a really good line.
00:29:54.000And it's and it's true, it's a hundred percent true.
00:29:56.000And and in fact, that he's he's not just talking about politics there, he's talking about life, he's talking about everything.
00:30:03.000And there were so many times where Charlie would do that, and he would you know, you'd you'd start with one issue or some political issue or political candidate, and he would he would unpack it all the way down to its bones.
00:30:14.000Well, Erica did this in her speech too.
00:30:16.000She she made a really important distinction between essentially what the founders would call licentiousness, which is freedom without rules, freedom without boundaries versus liberty, and liberty is about self-governance, or liber liberty, like uh individual freedom is about it's not it's not about the the lack of rules, it's saying, listen, I'm only gonna have one glass of wine or I'm not gonna have any at all, it's as opposed to five or six.
00:30:39.000I'm only gonna have one tasty cake as opposed to five or six.
00:30:43.000Maybe I'll have maybe have a bite just to make Jack happy and then put it, throw it in the trash.
00:30:48.000No, but whatever, whatever the um, but but there is these nuances to being a fully formed human being that can be a productive citizen of a constitutional republic.
00:30:59.000Because if you allow your vices to control you, then you become a slave to your vices, exactly.
00:31:03.000And Charlie understood that, and that's different from the like the libertine licentious do whatever you want.
00:31:12.000You you find out what the gods of this age are by when you realize what you're not allowed to uh criticize, right?
00:31:22.000You're not allowed to criticize the Civil Rights Act, even if you like the intention of some of the civil rights act, you're not allowed to criticize.
00:31:30.000But You because it's a god of this age.
00:31:33.000And you're not allowed to, you're well, you are allowed, but when you when you see these incisive commentary about, you know, licentiousness versus freedom or authenticity versus narcissism.
00:31:45.000That those are the the gods of this age.
00:31:48.000How many times have you heard somebody on the news say, well, everybody wants authenticity?
00:33:23.000And I'll and I'll say him winning, you're right, give the poster child for an actual socialist in the financial capital of the world.
00:33:32.000I'm not I'm not arguing the answer is yes, but I think that that it's very interesting for me to think through.
00:33:38.000They have no leader right now on the left, they have no solutions, they have no policy that they're that they're driving.
00:33:43.000I mean, where's the when's the last time we've seen a democrat leader put out some sort of plan in terms of a government budget or something?
00:33:50.000I mean, at this point, it's just we hate Trump.
00:33:52.000Does him getting elected as an outed socialist create a poster child that we can have a better dichotomy between free market capitalism and socialism?
00:34:49.000He reminds me of so many of these candidates that I deal with.
00:34:52.000You guys deal with these people, the Constitution Party, the Libertarian Party, the spoilers, right?
00:34:57.000And and look, it's a tough, tough conversation to have with folks because you know, they kind of have this hope and this dream and it's party loyalty, and he is the Republican, right?
00:35:11.000Bobby Kennedy runs, he runs as an independent, he gets on all the swing states, he's up there, but then what does he do?
00:35:16.000He looks at the race, he looks at the polls, and he says, You know what?
00:35:20.000I might not be able to become president, but I could become a kingmaker, and then after I become kingmaker, I can still get what I want out of all of this, which is to help the children, and now he's doing that every single day.
00:35:33.000So you look at what Bobby Kennedy did for the country because he put the country before himself.
00:36:57.000I mean, listen, here's what I will say that you're absolutely right, he should get some concessions.
00:37:02.000I I just want to make one final point in what you were saying, Cliff, about should we be hoping that a communist wins?
00:37:10.000And the answer, in my opinion, is absolutely not.
00:37:12.000You have no idea what kind of carnage this man would do to everyday Americans, even if they think they're voting for in their own best interest, you have no idea what kind of corruption he'll put in place.
00:37:23.000You have no idea what kind of apparatus will be put in place that you will not be able to extricate from a city that's in America.
00:37:30.000Every single inch of terrain that is America is America, and we have to insist that it is American.
00:37:36.000And so he's gonna stop working with ice.
00:37:38.000He's gonna stop working with ice, he's going to alienate the NYPD.
00:37:42.000So I here's people don't realize the the facts when it just comes with NYPD.
00:37:48.000They are going to absolutely tuck tail and run out of that city as fast as they can.
00:37:53.000They're gonna get job offers from Florida, they're gonna get job offers from New Jersey and Connecticut, they're gonna go to these other municipalities.
00:37:59.000Yeah, and they they will be they will have their hands tied, they're already getting their hands tied from some can't uh bad consent decree that just came across the wire this week.
00:38:07.000But they are they are gonna be sitting ducks and they're gonna want to get the heck out because cops, yes, they fear bullets.
00:38:16.000They've they fear getting prosecuted for doing their job becoming better channels.
00:38:20.000Darn well believe that mom Donnie is going to be leading the charge to create villains out of cops that get put in terrible situations because there's terrible people running loose in the streets of New York.
00:39:55.000Um, I was expecting absolute chaos because you have a communist, uh, a guy who uh has a lot of piercings, and another guy who really can't usually stop talking all on the stage at the same time.
00:40:12.000And my expectation was just an absolute circus of a debate, and it actually was like an enjoyably long debate.
00:40:19.000I think actually most debates should be about that length and cover as many many substantive topics like they did.
00:40:25.000I mean, it's a lot of stuff that most Americans really can't Um totally comprehend because it's New York City specific, you know, inner city, you know, garbage stuff that um really shouldn't exist, but you have to talk about, I guess, if you're from New York City.
00:40:42.000So uh yeah, anyways, I thought it was uh a really great, well-run debate.
00:40:49.000Yeah, I I thought this was the most New York debate ever, because you have these two New Yorkers on stage arguing on who loves the Jews more, and then you have Mom Donnie saying the craziest stuff on stage.
00:41:02.000And you have you got mom Donnie saying, we need rent control buildings and we need to fix everything.
00:41:11.000And then you got Sleewa going up there, and every other sentence, he's going, you know, in my day when we had the guardian angels, we would patrol the streets and keep it clean.
00:41:20.000And then Cuomo doesn't really know what's going on, somehow ties it all back to to you know protecting the Jewish community, which is great.
00:41:28.000You know, that's a big community in New York.
00:41:30.000But I I did think it was very near New York.
00:41:32.000And then on top of that, you have the two DEI sign language hires who have the green sheep behind them.
00:41:38.000And I I think that they automatically thought that that maybe a set would pop up if they put a green sheep behind them.
00:41:48.000I thought maybe the moderator could have started by holding up a Chipotle bowl and saying, Mr. Mom Donnie, how do you eat this with your hands or a fork?
00:41:57.000I I thought that we really missed out on that one, but other than that, I thought it was a pretty good debate.
00:42:14.000He Mikey had we had a clip last week of uh he's like, I really like Thought Crime, and he's been thinking about it all week, and he just came in with the most content.
00:42:37.000Jump in real quick and say that you know what was fascinating to me is this idea that it's the true democrat party, which means both Cuomo and uh Mom Donnie.
00:42:49.000You could tell every answer was not, oh, I want to present something because I have a plan or I have some sort of vision.
00:42:56.000It was who am I not allowed to offend?
00:42:58.000Every single answer, you could see him kind of pausing.
00:43:01.000I don't want to offend this group, so I have to answer this correctly.
00:43:05.000You know, at least Curtis went in as the Republican with some actual solutions, but I just feel like that represents the Democratic Party today.
00:43:12.000Is they're just worried about offending people, it's all about this these classes and virtue signaling.
00:43:18.000And to me, it was a good debate, and that the the structure I think went well, but there was no real policy positions that got anybody excited.
00:43:26.000I didn't think they really went deep on any of that.
00:43:28.000Um Donnie said, Hey, we want everything to be free.
00:43:31.000Uh they didn't really push back on him.
00:43:32.000I will say this though, I thought they went after Cuomo pretty tough on a lot of the follow-ups.
00:43:37.000I mean, they really inserted themselves as if they were kind of fact-checking in the moment, but they only seem to do that for him.
00:43:45.000Yeah, they went really easy on Mom Donnie on a lot of the follow-ups, which was you know, kind of expected because it's just the the communist propaganda that you see coming out of the the elections department in New York City.
00:44:01.000But I mean, I uh everything mom Donnie said was just totally rehearsed, totally fake, nothing he actually believes.
00:44:10.000Uh, you know, I you know, Cuomo did a nice job saying that a lot of times of just pointing out, hey, you actually said this, and now you're here, and then he didn't really give any real explanations as to why he changed his tune in very short format after becoming the democratic nominee.
00:44:29.000But here we are with with uh you know potential communists as mayor of New York City here.
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00:45:45.000So coming in, um, Mandami was the front runner.
00:45:49.000And, you know, Sliwa, a lot of people are looking at him as kind of like a spoiler.
00:45:53.000They're saying, okay, you know, you'd put, and I think the latest Quinnipiac poll said Slee was at uh 15, Cuomo's at 33, and then Mandami's at 46.
00:46:03.000So if you put the two of them together, they'd be at 48.
00:46:05.000And they'd uh that Cuomo would be the lead, but instead, and and obviously not all that 15 would go over, but instead, uh, you know, it's it's it's just this split ticket.
00:46:16.000And so Mandani was the one who needed to have a pitch perfect night.
00:46:20.000And I gotta say, I I don't know that either of those guys laid a finger on him.
00:46:44.000Uh obviously the things that he stands for, we all vehemently disagree with.
00:46:47.000Um, but I think that's the the almost reminded me, I hate to say it like this, but it was almost like Trump versus the other candidates.
00:46:54.000Now, look, a lot of the other candidates in the debates, especially 2016, you know, I like a lot of them.
00:46:59.000They're good on policy, but you know, Shane Gillis in his stand-up bit about the debates, he's like, this wasn't fair.
00:47:05.000You know, they brought Trump in, who's a professional at this, a TV guy, and he's up against all these other people that are professional politicians.
00:47:15.000I felt like Cuomo and Sliwa, you know, they didn't do bad, but they really struggled, even just looking at the camera.
00:47:22.000You know, we know this because we do this game, but like every single answer, Mom Dami is eyes to the camera, talking confidently, calmly, smiling at the end, answering questions directly.
00:47:34.000I mean, I've never said this many positive things about a socialist in my entire life, but the other two just seem to be the old school of just thinking that they're gonna answer the political way.
00:47:47.000Yeah, I I think it's important to point out how likable he is also to the younger generation, both millennials and Gen Z. And I I keep talking about this, but there's a crossroads that's coming uh where where young people need to pick as a solution to their problems to go to the right or to turn to the left.
00:48:07.000But either way, there's gonna need to be radical change.
00:48:10.000And so momdani is this young, fresh cut, good looking, looks at the camera, clean cut, and he he he's offering a solution, though radical, it's a socialist solution.
00:48:21.000And and when you think about it, Gen Z and Millennials, these are the ones that are are the users of BNPL programs.
00:49:17.000Andrew Cuomo is a politician of the past, and all they can speak about are the tweets of the past in 2020.
00:49:23.000Those are tweets, which I have apologized for to New Yorkers and police officers directly, and they are not what I am actually running on capable of actually speaking about the platform that we have here, which is one that will keep New Yorkers safe.
00:49:35.000And there, I mean, you you just hear it.
00:49:37.000It's it's he is this he's the politician of the past.
00:49:40.000He's the one that is, you know, from from you know time immemorial.
00:49:46.000He's obviously tied to you know his his family being in New York for a long time.
00:49:50.000And so it's it's tough to be a Cuomo and say you're running as as a change candidate.
00:49:54.000I mean, I just don't really know how you do that politically.
00:49:57.000Yeah, and I you know, just kind of piggybacking on that.
00:50:00.000It's you know, Cuomo's just such an such an unlikable guy that it's just such an unfortunate situation where you have uh yeah, that's juxtaposition of likable bad policies and unlikable, really just slightly less bad policies, and then unlikable good policies.
00:50:20.000You know, that's just that's the that's unfortunately the construct of every good campaign that runs, you have to be likable.
00:50:29.000You have to become across as someone that people connect with.
00:50:32.000And mom Donnie is you know, a you know outsider looking Obama-esque young uh uh messenger who he clearly sat down and was told and coached that he could not come across tonight as you know angry or defensive or uh you know opportunistic.
00:50:59.000He he was really smart in how he answered questions, which was moderation and quiet and calm and likable.
00:51:08.000And so that's just the that's that's the winning formula for him right now because it's his race to lose at this point, unfortunately.
00:51:16.000And all he had to do was make you know take more away from you know a bad, unlikable Democrat candidate.
00:51:24.000And I think he was successful, unfortunately, at that tonight.
00:51:28.000And that's part of the reason why so many people have hesitancy to tell Curtis Lewat to get out of the race, because you've got a guy that is not good at all.
00:51:37.000And I'll point to one specific example as they were like arguing over why mom Donnie hasn't endorsed Kathy Hokel.
00:51:45.000Well, that's not exactly the the person that instills a lot of confidence with all the Republicans that you have to try to win over in the city, is you know, making the point in the debate that you know the governor deserves you know an endorsement from you know the the Cuomo clan.
00:52:05.000So again, and and that that governor may end up in and Curtis Lewa was right, is that there's a really good chance that you're gonna have a Republican governor in the state of New York, and that may be the only way to hold mom Donnie in check, but you know, Cuomo didn't get the message, and he showed up tonight and he was like carrying the water for the the democratic establishment, which that may be the only thing that you can do at this point.
00:52:34.000I don't know, but it doesn't instill a ton of confidence in the person that's trying to pull together a unit to take out the communist.
00:52:42.000Well, and let's talk about Cuomo's biggest drop ball, and that to me was when they asked him, hey, is there anything that you've learned or or somehow that you've improved and experienced or something of a deep level, and he literally said social media.
00:52:58.000He said, I wasn't on TikTok before, but now I'm gonna focus on and then they went back to him.
00:53:04.000They said, Sir, we're talking about you learning about something that that you feel like you've gained some experience.
00:53:11.000It was so his answer was so bad, they tried to give the old man a second chance.
00:53:32.000I I look personally speaking, I think he is so unlikable and unappealing to the younger eye.
00:53:38.000I think he's just that this this he keeps quoting the guardian angels over and over again.
00:53:43.000And to us, we don't even know what that is.
00:53:45.000And I know I was texting my friends who live in New York, they don't even know what that is.
00:53:49.000That's from like a different generation, I feel like.
00:53:52.000And then on top of that, you have him saying, you know, for transportation, what he's not gonna take a yellow cab because you know, the Gavitis and the Gambonies shot me when I was in the back of a cab.
00:54:02.000And it just seems too like theatrical at times with him.
00:54:06.000And And for Cuomo, he's he's saying that he's one of the biggest takeaways or one of the newest things he's done is get on TikTok on social media.
00:54:14.000It's just he doesn't understand the younger generation.
00:54:18.000I I think Zorron Mom Donny to the independent voter is just, you know, uh if I'm gonna vote, I might as well vote for mom Donnie since he's the only one.
00:54:26.000But they didn't spend enough time talking about his policies that are so beyond radical, things that could actually sway voters away from him, which is you know, the dre decriminalization of prostitution or or bringing only fans culture, which is just so toxic.
00:54:43.000He he wants this on the streets, like you want to turn New York into a third world country.
00:54:47.000And I they didn't talk about this enough.
00:54:49.000They didn't bring it up enough, they didn't hammer it hit him on uh on it enough.
00:55:57.000Yeah, I again, I mean, he basically just gave points over to the younger generation.
00:56:02.000For Gen Z, they're c graduating college with a labor market that's already shrinking with with degrees and jobs that don't even exist.
00:56:11.000And so they see this candidate who's getting made fun of on a national stage for not having a job when most Gen Z can't even find jobs right now.
00:56:20.000So you just basically won him more points with the younger generation, and then on top of that, they just saw Zoran Mom Donnie absolutely destroy Cuomo.
00:57:24.000I think Cuomo's problem is he's just all over the map.
00:57:27.000I mean, and when you're running as a change candidate, the problem is the past that you want to change.
00:57:33.000You used to be governor, so you're running this whole campaign trying to call out that we need to fix things because obviously New York uh is in the you know the gutter at the moment, and you have to then call out things from the past.
00:57:45.000And to bring up COVID to me, like that was just uh uh I mean, everybody knows how bad he was on COVID, even people on the left.
00:57:53.000I mean, when I was in New York City, you guys remember you had to have the COVID uh pass just to literally eat, right?
00:57:59.000Luckily, I won't admit this on air because it might be a felony, but luckily I had a card on me and uh was able to get into some restaurants, but like that was horrific.
00:58:08.000And so many people, I don't care what side of the aisle you're on, they don't forget that stuff.
00:58:12.000And so you can't run as a change candidate if you were part of the things that you're now trying to change.
00:58:18.000Yeah, I I just imagine if Cuomo hit back with a long list of wait, aren't you the candidate for N cash bail, repeal walking while trans ban, decriminalize sex work, legalize marijuana, permit safe injection sites, state-run grocery store stores, restrict solidary confinement, enact elder parole, re I he could have hit him back, but he I I I don't even think he prepped for this debate.
00:58:43.000No, it's his prep was like I'm gonna hang out and I'm gonna I'm gonna beat him up because he never had a real job and I'm I'm gonna show how good I am because I'm Andrew Cuomo and I'm gonna do this is gonna be great and and and and I'm gonna come in there and talk about all the things that I did when I was I was the governor and and Trump and and COVID and and I'm sorry it's like it was where's it was very Biden esque where's trying to connect with voters.
00:59:10.000It was very Biden-esque like his whole thing it wasn't obviously as bad and and you know empty as Biden was but it was the same type of attitude which was like but we're gonna run it back like when I did with Obama and we're gonna come back and we're gonna do this all over again and and again that just never works like people just don't believe it.
00:59:30.000They don't believe that Cuomo was good to begin with.
00:59:34.000He's right now just like, I'm a little scared of Mom Donnie, and so I'm going to throw my vote his way.
00:59:41.000But he did nothing to actually show he's a qualified leader for any party and certainly not for the largest city in America.
00:59:52.000I would also point out one thing, too, is that his intent to go after Mom Donnie seemed like it was just like axe grinding type stuff throughout the whole thing.
01:00:08.000He was just upset that Democrats within the city had kind of cast him aside.
01:00:14.000And again, we've seen this over and over again throughout American history.
01:00:19.000Whenever you try that, even when you're extraordinarily popular, people sense that and they sense the kind of self-righteousness when you're in that.
01:00:27.000And that's all that came through tonight was I'm great, just like Joe Biden would do when he would talk and everyone would be like, oh, no, Joe, stop talking.
01:00:36.000And it just comes across extraordinarily disingenuous.
01:00:41.000I think one of the biggest missteps from both, not Mondami, but the other two was they really didn't paint him into the radical corner and to expose him for a lot of things.
01:00:53.000Mikey, you just read off a lot of the list.
01:00:54.000But the funniest part was the moment that showed me just how radical Mom Donnie is was not the others calling him out.
01:01:02.000It was him saying FDR was his favorite.
01:01:06.000That to me was like it's such a calculated response but the fact that he didn't say Obama I was thinking to myself like you know I didn't know he had past statements against Obama I mean this guy is about as far to the left as you can get but that to me was a pretty big moment that he would say FDR over Obama um I don't really know what that says or who he's playing to but that to me was pretty wild.
01:01:27.000I want to play this clip here because this is something that Charlie talked about a lot.
01:01:34.000And here it is coming up live in the New York City mayoral debate.
01:02:43.000Charlie always warned about the Islamization of America.
01:02:48.000I think that, and we were talking in the preview a little bit with Andrew, that, you know, I think going to London and seeing how far it had come.
01:02:58.000then coming back and realizing that that Was coming to New York.
01:03:01.000I think that had a huge impression on him.
01:03:26.000But not just in London, which is now basically a third world sharia hellhole.
01:03:32.000And when you're in your yeah, exactly, London stun.
01:03:36.000When you're in your hotel room in London, you're you're going through the TV channels and you realize that they have Qatar TV and they have Omar TV, and they have and it goes down the La Syria TV, and they have every single Middle Eastern countries TV networks.
01:03:54.000And you realize this is no longer London.
01:04:10.000And they're just buying up land nonstop.
01:04:12.000And it's not just in London, it's in Oxford, it was in Cambridge, both in the student body that we saw, but also in the towns.
01:04:19.000You'd see these beautiful towns that are picturesque from medieval England that have just been destroyed and desecrated by a big mosque that's blaring music in the middle of the day, like Dearborn, Michigan.
01:04:32.000And and I I think the trajectory is really scary here in America's biggest city, that the debate is about visiting a mosque.
01:04:40.000Charlie warned about this all the time, but what's gonna be next?
01:04:44.000Did you as governor not approve Sharia law 10 years from now?
01:04:49.000I I'm really worried with the trajectory that this is headed.
01:04:53.000Charlie was a big advocate about warning of the Islamisation of America.
01:05:15.000So let's let me ask one of the other old heads around here.
01:05:19.000Uh Cliff, can you believe that we're sitting here again, two and a half decades after watching those towers come down, finding out who did that, and then this becomes a centerpiece of the debate.
01:05:54.000I mean, I I went to London, and I think the trips, when you see it, it's very different.
01:05:59.000Um, I think Elon Musk was the first person to really post about it.
01:06:02.000I'm like, well, you know, but when you go there and you kind of see how they turn into third world countries with this endless immigration, and then we're looking at New York City, the finance capital of the world, and that's the topic of discussion.
01:06:15.000I mean, that should be a moment of self-reflection for all of us, right?
01:06:18.000We're not talking about lowering taxes, we're not talking about creating jobs.
01:06:22.000We're doing a litmus test on if a person running for political office has been in a mosque.
01:06:28.000I think that's a wild, wild interaction.
01:06:33.000And I would just point out too, it's really scary what's going to be happening here to New York because we've talked a lot about the the communization, whatever you want to call it, uh, you know, adding more communism and socialism to the city.
01:06:49.000I mean, this guy is literally a member of DSA, the Democratic Socialists of America.
01:06:54.000These guys celebrate the Russian revolution as a holiday.
01:06:59.000They celebrate the Russian revolution.
01:07:02.000And we're going to see this this complete change in New York of in-groups and out groups with with as far as culture goes.
01:07:11.000But as people are coming in, I mean, we're going to have an eradication of culture within New York City as we know it, with people leaving the city.
01:07:21.000Uh, we already had uh literally hundreds of thousands of people leave the city permanently from New York during COVID.
01:07:29.000And now you're going to have because of the uh election of this mayor, uh, tons of people leave, but it's not just the communism that you're going to see uh take place and take footing.
01:07:40.000You're going to see an a dramatic increase of Islam in the city.
01:07:45.000Um certainly, I mean, it's and this isn't you know, looking at this from just a pure racial standpoint or ethnic standpoint.
01:07:53.000It's just this just the facts of that you when you have somebody that represents the city, New York City, um, they're likely to attract more of that culture to the city.
01:08:04.000And if you have a ton of people leaving because they feel like communism's taking over the city, who is going to move into the city?
01:08:12.000And that's why the Islamization of London and other European cities is so in line with New York City, where you're going to see this.
01:08:23.000You're going to have this really happen in a big way to the same way that we've seen it happen uh with different subgroups, like in Toronto, like we just talked about London within Berlin.
01:08:34.000Uh, yeah, cities that we've seen all over uh Europe, including Italy, where there's you have this infighting that's happening.
01:08:43.000It's going to create such tension because culture is unstable and that people are leaving in such big numbers that it's going to be really, really bad.
01:08:54.000And what that means in the very simple terms for most that we're not really talking about very directly is crime is going to go up.
01:09:02.000Uh, there's going to be instability uh amongst our caregivers within uh the medical community, police are going to struggle to fill jobs.
01:09:14.000Uh, because when you have people leave this the city, that's not just you know businessmen who don't like communism.
01:09:21.000It's also, you know, good Republican police officers and conservative police officers, whether they're conservative Democrats or they're actual conservatives, they're gonna be leaving the city and getting better jobs elsewhere within communities that they feel more comfortable serving.
01:09:35.000So this is a real problem for New York City.
01:09:38.000There, there's a number of chain reactions that are going to take place that come from the decision uh of the Democrat Party to basically hand over all of their the cultural elements to communists and Islamists.
01:09:52.000And that is what's going to start to make up the context of the future of the Democrat Party.
01:09:58.000And that, I mean, the winner here is the Republican Party.
01:10:01.000If we can pull ourselves together and actually represent core values to American citizens in a very clear and concise and open way.
01:10:11.000Uh, but momdani is now going to be the face, whether they like it or not.
01:10:15.000He will be the face of the Democrat Party in America.
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01:11:43.000By the way, if he eats with his rights with his hands, whether he means it or not, he's either authentically gross or he's being a fake, disgusting person.
01:14:10.000You can go back to where you came from to go do that.
01:14:14.000But in America, we do not eat with our hands, we do not poop on the streets.
01:14:18.000Like there, there is a crow, there's a line that you cross that we just we have to lay the line.
01:14:23.000Truth is truth, and we need to have our standards, and you do not cross those standards.
01:14:28.000And I was talking to a big donor this last week, and he said, Look, listen, I I when I give, I disagree with a lot of the people I give to.
01:14:38.000I weren't, but nobody you're ever going to be aligned with, you're gonna agree with 100%.
01:14:42.000As long as I agree with you 60% of the time, that's great.
01:14:46.000As long as the 40% isn't make communism great again, you can count on my support.
01:14:51.000And that's kind of the mentality that we need.
01:15:20.000That these are the people that are going to vote for Mam Dani because he is changing the standards in a bad way.
01:15:27.000We are not gonna move forward as a society, we're gonna move back as a side as backwards as a society because he's changing the norms.
01:15:35.000He's changing what we stand for in America, like eating with a fork.
01:15:39.000I mean, there's so much with that, it's just demographics is destiny, right?
01:15:43.000And I remember um JD Vance had this clip.
01:15:46.000I don't have time to pull it up right now, but he was talking about how you know there's so much of the demographic that voted for Mandani.
01:15:56.000It's your it's your like young urban creatives, your Gen Z, but then also so many recent migrants from uh from South Asia.
01:16:08.000And whereas like Cuomo in the primary that they held, he got a lot of blacks, he got a lot of Hispanics, and so it's sort of like that was the actual working class vote that went for Cuomo, and then instead it was these, you know, the the artsy urban creative types.
01:16:28.000Uh Scott Greer has this great line, he calls them the yuckies, why you see, like as opposed to the yuppies, the young urban professionals, and that the yuppies weren't really going for momdani at all.
01:16:38.000It's it's these these yucky types, these artists, and again, just these, you know, the migrants.
01:16:44.000And so for some reason, after 9-11, we decided to just open up our borders, and we were going to get into a war with the Middle East, but then also invite the Middle East to come into our country, and then Barack Obama put that on absolute steroids and started just like mass importing uh whole populations like the Somalians and others directly to the Midwest.
01:17:07.000And you know, now we've got like thousands of Haitians in uh, you know, Springfield, Ohio, and all the rest of it.
01:17:13.000And you look at a city like New York, how could it happen?
01:17:19.000And people want to take about, you know, talk about you know the the demographic replacement, and it's like it's not a theory, it's just a description of something that's happening, and we can all see it and you know, write me up again about it.
01:18:24.000And when Charlie and I were in Maine that this this couple months ago, we spent a day in Portland and we were talking to police officers, and the police officer said, There are so many Muslims coming here and Somalians that we will get police calls where we check in on a house and it's a one-bedroom, one bathroom house or or apartment.
01:18:44.000And when we come in, there's 18 Somalians and they're beating up one woman, or or there's trash everywhere, and there's feces on the ground.
01:18:54.000This is happening right now in America.
01:18:57.000And the mayor of South Portland at the exact same time that this was happening, the police officer said she was a Muslim that this is happening while you are getting elected Muslim officials to office, there are Muslims in Arabs and the the Somalians coming in and living in uh 18 of them living in a one-bedroom house, uh beating up women, they don't have the same values that we have as Americans.
01:19:22.000And that's why Mam Dani is uh he's kind of appealing to some of these immigrants because they see their third world mentality in him, and they're hoping, well, maybe he can make this a little bit more like our home that we came from.
01:19:38.000And then when we were third world mentality, speaking of third world mentality, it wanted to play clip 336.
01:19:46.000And I find the comments that Hassan made on 9-11 to be objectionable and reprehensible.
01:19:51.000And I also think that part of the reason why Democrats are in the situation that we are in of being a permanent minority in this country.
01:20:00.000So that's that's Hassan Piker on his live stream tonight, watching himself get disavowed by his his his little boy momdani.
01:20:09.000So he's d he's disavowing him on in the debate itself, and that's that's him watching, and he needs that little that little pat on the back from that.
01:20:18.000I I don't even know what his little sidekick is.
01:21:04.000If he wins, which he most likely will, I think that Republicans, this is gonna be a wake up call for them when they see the trajectory that New York is headed in, what actually happens.
01:21:13.000But I would like to see how much he actually pulls through on some of his promises.
01:21:17.000Do we actually think that state run grocery stores will happen under Mom Donnie?
01:21:22.000Or is he just saying this to kind of get elected?
01:21:24.000I I think it's a lot of talk versus what he will actually do.
01:21:28.000Um, but I do think that it, yeah, if New York becomes the hellhole of America and a third world pocket of our country, then yeah, I definitely would be a wake-up call to Republicans.
01:21:44.000Why doesn't the donor class wake up and fight this immediately now?
01:21:49.000Why don't the Republicans fight this right now instead of waiting for this to fester into a pocket of a third world country in our biggest city in America to wait for action to take place?
01:21:59.000I it's just a little confusing to me for a well.
01:22:03.000Like obviously defeating communism is good, letting America's greatest city fall to communism is bad.
01:22:09.000But Tyler, look, you've been putting together the turning point action 26 plan.
01:22:15.000Uh midterms obviously are right around the corner.
01:22:19.000Um I'd be remiss if I didn't mention Virginia and New Jersey, uh something what 19 days away, 18 days away, huge, huge um elections going on.
01:22:29.000It's hard in New Jersey action event in uh in North Jersey this Sunday.
01:22:34.000But Tyler, let's, you know, talking about the midterms, if Mamdanny is the mayor, do you think that would have an effect on the midterms and the way it plays out?
01:22:44.000I mean, and and the probably the best analogy is uh when your favorite restaurant closes down, nobody really is really happy about that for whatever reason.
01:22:55.000There's a lot of different reasons people close down restaurants.
01:22:58.000Uh sometimes it just runs their core, sometimes the the people who own it retire, sometimes you know uh COVID and 2020 happens and BLM It's hard to run to death and never go back that restaurant is permanently damaged or closed.
01:23:21.000But what the natural the natural impact that happens is that people go other other places.
01:23:28.000They go elsewhere, they they stand up, they eat elsewhere, they open up new restaurants and new places.
01:23:34.000And that's what we're gonna see happen coming out of New York, whether we like it or not.
01:23:40.000I don't think anyone celebrates or enjoys the fact that their favorite restaurants now closed, but they are going to have to go other places.
01:23:47.000The question is is our Americans going to defend those other restaurants so the old one or the new one doesn't close like the old one did.
01:23:56.000And and that's the real problem that we have in in America right now is that we have a lot of people who have taken themselves their their community for granted.
01:24:03.000They haven't got involved and are active enough.
01:24:06.000They haven't defended the local public policy that has uh enabled uh Cretans to come in and really dismantle the culture of America.
01:24:17.000And and you have to keep again keep supporting and and loving uh your local legislators, your local city council members, your local school board members, recruiting them, running yourself uh for those positions in order to protect your community.
01:24:33.000And unfortunately, the story of of New York City is that that has all been handed away.
01:24:39.000And that is why you are where you were at in New York City now.
01:24:42.000And that also means that people are gonna go elsewhere and New Jersey and Connecticut are gonna see huge spikes in conservatism.
01:24:50.000Um, both moderate and conservative Democrats and conservatives.
01:24:54.000The question is again, is there are the Republicans going to take those people in, embrace them, and then convert them to be permanent members and fixtures of the party and say no more of this.
01:25:07.000We're going to uh have a new community here that it protects culture uh instead of uh allows all the again, like I said, these Cretans to come in and hijack uh your community.
01:25:22.000But I think people are gonna look back at this and say that was not a good thing that New York has gone the direction that it's gone, whether you're you're it benefits the Republican Party or not, this is going to be very disruptive and dismantling to our culture.
01:25:37.000It's gonna create friction uh that's not good and healthy for for America.
01:25:42.000It's gonna create more violence, it's gonna create more animosity uh between Americans, people who think America's something different than culturally what it what it actually is and has been.
01:25:54.000And that's a real problem for America.
01:25:56.000Well, and and and look, it it gives for the midterms, I'll say for 26, you know, as we see New York do this, it will give people something to push against.
01:26:06.000Look, uh, the very first thing that Mundami is going to do, if and when he gets elected mayor, and you know, we'll see.
01:26:15.000But um, I think the very first thing he does day one is block any cooperation with ice.
01:26:22.000He will absolutely turn New York back into the sanctuary city that it was prior to Eric Adams, where people were just remember this.
01:26:30.000They were flooding the streets, they were going through hotels, they were getting like taxpayer-funded vouchers for sleeping in hotels um all over the place.
01:26:41.000And you're gonna see that happen again, again immediately.
01:26:45.000So there's gonna be this huge, and by the way, that's why they talked about we didn't mention this.
01:26:49.000They talked about Trump more than anything else during the entire debate.
01:26:54.000Because they want, they know that uh that if Trump gets, you know, Trump's still president, that they have this election, they can turn it into a referendum on Trump and then make it be this, you know, thorn in the side of Donald Trump, the mayor of New York, the mayor of Donald Trump city refuses to agree with him, refuses to endorse him, refuses to go along with ICE, et cetera, et cetera.
01:27:13.000You know, and they're gonna deny the National Guard, they're gonna have standoffs.
01:27:17.000It's going to be uh I could see a scenario where a Mundami uh, you know, mayoral term, mayoral tenure turns a lot of New York into the new Portland.
01:27:31.000And you know why it's gonna be worse than Portland?
01:27:34.000Is because you you already have massive racial tensions and uh a scenario with within New York that is far more uh far more of a hotbed for crime and criminal activity.
01:27:49.000You have significantly uh more people, obviously, which always causes massive disruption.
01:27:56.000You have uh a historic New York police department uh and fire department that has relied on the backs of multi-generation, multi-generational talent that has made that kept that city safe.
01:28:15.000All those people are going to probably finally make the decision to leave.
01:28:18.000And this is really again, I cannot bring this back enough.
01:28:21.000Is that a community is not a community built on just ideas and looks and and just values.
01:28:31.000It's it's a culture that is sewn together with heritage and again, multiple generations of people standing together to build something special.
01:28:43.000And New York has existed and worked for this many years because again, you've had a lot of people that have can you know dedicated themselves to public service, and I just don't see I I cannot we've heard it from people.
01:28:58.000They got an injection of that post-9-11.
01:29:01.0009-11 caused people to turn their hearts back to the city.
01:29:06.000The difference between you know that that happening nearly 25 years ago after next this next year, and to where we are today is people's hearts are turning away from the city.
01:29:18.000You have COVID, uh, where you have a candidate that's on stage who literally killed, had you know, had people oversaw people dying within the city, that they were forced to die within the city uh because they wouldn't properly take care of them.
01:29:34.000They wouldn't institute policies that were you know both freedom loving and then also uh you know, using just you know, cooler and letting letting cooler heads prevail.
01:29:45.000And you now have a candidate who's gonna be become New York or New York City's mayor, who uh is going to radicalize the city in such a way that there's not going to be very many people left that are going to keep that that culture together.
01:30:01.000And so we're gonna see just a complete departure and and representation of what New York City looks like.
01:30:08.000It's gonna change dramatically and drastically, and there's gonna be a lot of heartache and sadness uh in the in the tri-state area for people to say, well, that's what New York City used to be.
01:30:19.000Or I remember how New York City was, and now look at it today.
01:30:23.000And that's what the next 20 years is probably going to look like.
01:30:26.000Because Mom Dani's just the beginning of this.
01:30:28.000This is not this is not something that's going to get corrected very quickly because of the Democratic Socialists of America.
01:30:35.000Yeah, I I back to what Cliff said just on what what the reaction will be in the country.
01:30:42.000I feel like there should already be a massive reaction to this because following the 2024 presidential election, you would have thought that the left would move a little less radical on their policies.
01:30:55.000Since the huge 8020 issue of men in women's bathrooms and other radical stances that they've taken, lost them, the presidency and the Senate, et cetera.
01:31:06.000And you would think that they would take less radical stances, but they're not.
01:31:09.000And you see mom Donnie coming in with these crazy, crazy stances.
01:31:15.000But then on top of that, what's really scary about this that I think Republicans need to spend more time talking about is the fact that this is a municipal power that he's threatening BDS uh against Israel, and that he would arrest the leader of a foreign nation if he stepped foot in New York City.
01:31:32.000It since when is a municipal power acted in in this way?
01:31:37.000And if this is the way Mom Dani is going, and if this is the way the left is going in the Democratic Party, what what is gonna continue, not just in New York but across the country with with candidates running for office across the country and their stances?
01:31:51.000How are they gonna abuse their power and are they gonna continue to move further and further left?
01:31:57.000I just think that not enough Republicans are really warning about the trajectory of this.
01:32:03.000Mikey, let me make a plug I never get to make, just real quick, Jack.
01:32:12.000Obviously, we got to do the big national races, but local elections, this mayoral race, obviously it's not that local, it's a New York City mayor race.
01:32:21.000But this is why Republicans need to adopt the strategy of the left, which is building a bench, building a minor leagues, and understanding that we need America first Patriots across the country to run at the local level, school board, dog catcher.
01:32:34.000I don't care what it is, countywide, especially state level.
01:32:38.000But if you want to really enact change, these local races are the way to do it because it takes less money, it takes less of a grassroots, but you're not dealing with the big money that you deal with when you run the federal races.
01:32:50.000Been dying to say this on Charlie's show for probably two years, but local races matter, and I think tonight's debate shows you it has an outsize impact and it helps you to build the bench for the future.
01:34:18.000I'm gonna be bringing my walker, maybe my wheelchair.
01:34:21.000Man, it's gonna be it's gonna be so good.
01:34:25.000I really hope rather that'd be a good like Alex Stein bit to just like dress up as like remember when um uh Johnny Knoxville used to dress in like old like dress like an old man, and then like you just walk go to the no kings protest.
01:34:37.000I should uh sent my brother's uh into doing that this weekend or something.
01:34:48.000Thank you so much for tuning in with us.
01:34:50.000The Charlie Charlie always loved doing these debate watches and debate recaps, and so that's why we decided that uh we're gonna continue the tradition and make sure that we do it tonight.
01:35:00.000And so, as always, go out there and commit more fuck crime.