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00:00:56.000The Charlie Kirk Show is proudly sponsored by Preserve Gold, the leading gold and silver experts and the only precious metals company I recommend to my family, friends, and viewers.
00:01:09.000Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome once again to another Thursday edition of Thought Crime.
00:01:15.000It is Thought Crime Thursday, and the thought crimes will always continue.
00:01:21.000I am Jack Pasovic coming to you from the remote studio.
00:01:27.000But back in Phoenix, I believe we've got two of my compatriots in person.
00:05:00.000And by the way, not only to mention that, but your NJ Chase efforts are going to be bolstered because I believe Tyler Boyer made a pretty interesting turning point action first time ever announcement yesterday on his birthday.
00:05:26.000And so we're going to be driving as many volunteers as we possibly can because our technology can support getting out people basically in rapid speed out knocking doors and talking to voters.
00:05:39.000And that's what we're going to need to do in the final week.
00:05:42.000Yeah, we have the graphic and we'll grab it.
00:05:44.000We'll throw it back up here so everyone can see it.
00:06:22.000Yeah, at 3 p.m. at 3 p.m. and Monday, November 3rd at 4 p.m.
00:06:26.000So I literally just made that same third week like 20 minutes ago when I was talking to Tanya about something because I'm no announcements, but I'm going to see if I can break away from family stuff because it's like Halloween weekend, but I'm going to see if I can break away to come to at least one of those.
00:06:44.000I mean, it's so close, so I figure, you know, sneak over, do something, and then sneak back.
00:06:50.000Because look, NJ is the play, NJ is the thing.
00:06:53.000And by the way, guys, we should all also mention, you know, since we're all here right now, I'd love if we could all get together for election night next week.
00:07:30.000I mean, I think there's very few better ways to honor Charlie Kirk than streaming on election night.
00:07:35.000I mean, it's just, it's basically written in stone at this point.
00:07:39.000We will be streaming on election night, right, Jack?
00:07:42.000Not only are we going to be streaming, but I'm going to be sitting right next to you, buddy, out there in Phoenix, right in my apportioned seat where I was one year ago.
00:07:50.000And Andrew, I'm bringing you another tasty cake.
00:07:54.000Dude, I still got that tasty cake in my bag.
00:08:54.000No, well, I mean, I'm talking about the actual returns.
00:08:58.000Right now, the return advantage that Democrats have over Republicans is about 175,000 as of I think that was yesterday.
00:09:07.000So that may have been today, actually.
00:09:10.000So that's, yeah, that was my question was if you had handy what the number was heading into election day, what the advantage was for Democrats four years ago.
00:09:23.000No, but I can, I can, yeah, I can pull it.
00:09:25.000But what I, what I'll tell you that's interesting, and you guys know this because you operate in a bunch of states, I don't operate in that many states, right?
00:09:31.000Pennsylvania, the one thing that we do have is they're very transparent about requests, about returns by party, but even more importantly, the votes by method.
00:09:41.000You know, New Jersey's kind of been fascinating because it's much, I mean, you can get to it, but it's much tougher to find.
00:09:47.000I mean, the thing I mentioned earlier, the 5.5%, that is this far out from the election.
00:09:52.000If you look at the returns by party, we are 5.5% better than we were.
00:09:56.000I'm not sure where that is on raw, but to me, I like to look at the trends of the percentage because then it's based on, okay, not just what Republicans are returning, right?
00:10:04.000But what are the Democrats doing as well?
00:11:24.000We didn't have Cliff Maloney and the Maloney method to come out there.
00:11:27.000It's like Maloney ball over here, where he's coming in and putting it all, you know, putting it all in bank so that we have something to actually springboard into.
00:11:37.000And this is what Charlie talked about all the time in 2022.
00:11:40.000And he could see it happening in real time that the Dems just kept dipping into that reserve, whereas we didn't have one.
00:11:48.000And this is what was the separator with us here in Arizona and why we felt so comfortable going into Election Day was we were trending about 5% to 6% ahead of the Democrats.
00:12:01.000That was our goal was we wanted to remain upwards of 5% better than Democrats in early returns.
00:12:12.000And I mean, that's the name of the game, right?
00:12:15.000Is get out ahead of the Democrats as on return percentage.
00:12:20.000You know, you just mentioned, Jack, that, you know, the Democrat return percentage is reflecting very similar numbers to what the Republican return percentage is right now.
00:12:32.000The Republicans have actually been out ahead of the Democrats up until this point.
00:12:36.000Yeah, they just closed that gap in Master Space.
00:12:39.000Yeah, and Pruser said that was to be expected.
00:12:41.000That's what he expected, anyways, which is really interesting.
00:12:45.000But that's, I mean, naming the game moving forward, especially in these states, these states that we have to win.
00:12:51.000If President Trump isn't successful at eliminating mail-in ballots in totality, you're going to have to chase them to stay out ahead of them in order to give ourselves the best chance possible on election day, especially when, again, inclement weather can happen or, you know, just people wake up on the wrong side of the bed that day, national tragedy could happen.
00:13:14.000You know, just there's lots of things that can impact one election day, which again, for everybody that's listening here, I'm in full support of going back to how things used to run, which is one big election day, and we all mail-in ballots.
00:13:33.000We support the president completely on that.
00:13:35.000But if it's not eliminated, we have to unfortunately play by these stupid rules that have been put into place by leftists who have been trying to manipulate our elections now for decades.
00:13:47.000So that's what we're up against in New Jersey.
00:13:54.000It says, New Jersey vote by mail file is in for 1023.
00:13:57.000Democrats flip the return rate margin, picking up 54 basis points and adding nearly 9,500 votes to their raw turnout lead.
00:14:06.000So now you can see that Republican return rate is at 50.20%.
00:14:10.000Democrat return rate just slightly higher at 50.26%.
00:14:15.000And so the raw vote edge is about 175,000 for the Dems.
00:14:19.000So he goes on to explain that the day of, the day we all expect it has arrived, Democrats have now returned a higher rate of ballots and are likely to expand their lead to something around approximately 3% when all votes have been counted, including those that show up after Election Day.
00:14:34.000Return pace will continue to slow as roughly 70% of all expected absentee ballots have been returned.
00:14:40.000But that doesn't mean, so it's all going to come down to Election Day then, Jack.
00:14:44.000And that's why the Super Chase events, getting the rah-rah out, getting people aware, making some noise, making some stinks.
00:14:52.000That's going to be huge, well-timed, because that's really going to be where it's all determined.
00:15:00.000This is Lane Schoenberger, Chief Investment Officer and founding partner of YReFi.
00:15:04.000It has been an honor and a privilege to partner with Turning Point and for Charlie to endorse us.
00:15:10.000His endorsement means the world to us, and we look forward to continuing our partnership with Turning Point for years to come.
00:15:16.000Now, here Charlie, in his own words, tell you about YReFi.
00:15:20.000I'm going to tell you guys about whyReFi.com.
00:16:08.000Yeah, and hopefully we can also get some messages out to all the voters, you know, in the name of Turning Point, letting people know and reminding people to vote.
00:16:18.000Election reminders are really important.
00:16:20.000That's the work that Cliff's doing on the ground with njchase.org.
00:16:25.000Go to njchase.org to follow what Cliff's doing and what his organization is doing there.
00:16:31.000But vote reminders are what is the most necessary thing.
00:16:50.000And so everybody that's within the sound of our voice, I know that we beat this thing like a drum and it feels like 2024 all over again when we say these things.
00:16:58.000You know, we didn't get the job done enough in Wisconsin with the Supreme Court race.
00:17:02.000We had put thousands of people on the ground doing this work.
00:17:07.000The left has literally tens of thousands of people doing this work left over from Obama era where they have all these systems in place.
00:17:15.000And so you have to get used to just doing this work and spending a little bit of time.
00:17:19.000I call it like going to church every week.
00:17:21.000You got to spend a few hours every week just doing the activist work as part of your lifestyle in America if you don't want the left to take over.
00:18:56.000You see this certainly with their worship of the earth, which goes back to Gaia worship and old pagan religions.
00:19:06.000You see it with their worship of, again, all earthly things because they don't actually believe in eternity.
00:19:11.000So they have these pagan belief systems.
00:19:13.000They also believe in crazy things that you can't see.
00:19:16.000So they'll say, like, oh, you know, they'll say, oh, how come you can prove you?
00:19:20.000You say you believe in God and Jesus, but you can't see God and Jesus and angels.
00:19:23.000And I say, okay, well, you guys say you believe in things like systemic racism and the wage gap, and none of those things exist in reality either.
00:19:31.000Well, I was trying to, I was about to do the Harry Sisson head bob for you.
00:19:36.000You know, because, you know, because Andy's been sending me the bobble meme like 10 times a day.
00:19:52.000Dude, guys, when he was doing that, and I was like, I was, you know, and Isabel Brown, the great Isabel Brown, was just going through chapter and verse because it was like, well, Kamala Harris did.
00:20:28.000No, he had like he had this weird Twitch kind of thing where he was like looking off boneless posting the tweeted both of them together and you could see it's just this very strange behavior.
00:20:39.000I don't even know the way the way I describe it from a lot of crash out.
00:20:46.000A lot of people on the left, I find this thing where when they don't actually debate people that are bright on the right or that are articulate, you know, when they're just kind of in their echo chamber and then they have to have a conversation, they just go to these weird emotions, right?
00:20:59.000You like watch them in some of these interviews where they're just like, you know, like they don't know how to articulate, right?
00:21:04.000Because they're used to just getting a free pass and they're used to just hearing people praising them from their side.
00:21:09.000That when somebody just calmly presents facts, they have a complete meltdown.
00:21:52.000You got the better of Harry Sisson there big time.
00:21:55.000But here, I was trying to give you an off-ramp to Stephen A. Smith.
00:21:58.000I was trying to give you the off-rat to Stephen A. Smith talking about how when you bend reality to fit your ideology, you sound like a cuckoo bird.
00:22:05.000And this is the first thought crime today, right?
00:22:40.000And I wanted to go back because the genesis of this, and I wanted to point out that the reason I mentioned something about the halftime show wasn't in a vacuum because there is someone who used to talk about the Super Bowl halftime shows every single year.
00:22:58.000Every year, Charlie would have to chime in at the halftime shows because he knew there were so many eyeballs on like Twitter, and now it's X. And so he would chime in.
00:23:52.000They were riffing on this idea together.
00:23:54.000And what happened was I go away, and this is at a point where Charlie didn't have Twitter loaded on his phone because he was trying to purge himself from like it was a detox of Twitter.
00:24:05.000And so it was me and I think Daisy that like he would send his tweets to, and then we would, you know, send him off for him at this point.
00:24:13.000He called it like the submarine where he takes two keys to fire off the weapon.
00:24:21.000So what happened, the torpedo, that's the word I was looking for.
00:24:24.000So what happened was I'm, you know, it's Super Bowl.
00:24:27.000I'm getting like a hot dog and I'm loading up my plate and the halftime show's going on.
00:24:31.000And it's like the tamest halftime show in about a decade.
00:27:00.000When you have the most televised event, this is true, most televised event for the entire year, one of the most televised events on the planet, by the way.
00:27:09.000That should be a reflection of the virtue that hopefully you want society to embody.
00:27:19.000And actually, I have to say, his defense of it is pretty spot on because you do have this very family, like there's a lot of families watching.
00:27:28.000And Charlie would always say that on the show.
00:27:30.000Like, if we ever got too spicy, especially on this show, because Jack would push him, he'd always be like, remember, we have 11-year-olds watching this.
00:27:47.000You know, I may have gotten him into trouble with like media matters more and patriot takes, but you got, you, you pushed the boundaries in other ways, Jack.
00:27:56.000I don't know what you're talking about.
00:27:58.000I was definitely not responsible for the public literacy meltdown.
00:28:01.000Yeah, so, but we should say, Jack, that all the fake, you know, I've seen a bunch of lineups for the halftime show.
00:29:27.000Saying that Bad Bunny is going to be uniting.
00:29:30.000And so, again, I don't have the clip sheet, but there's a Bad Bunny clip that I wasn't even aware of this until we were doing the show prep for Thought Crime tonight.
00:30:04.000I know America is the whole continent.
00:30:07.000I want to say that this country is nothing without the immigrants.
00:30:13.000This country is nothing without Mexicans, Dominicans, Puerto Ricans, Colombians, Venezuelans, Cubans, Winzo.
00:30:22.000So that's a Bad Bunny video/slash stunt that he put out just three months ago.
00:30:28.000Where, and for those of you who are just listening, when that starts out, there's an image of the Statue of Liberty with the, I guess it's Bad Bunny up there, like he's Ghostbusters 2, and he's putting the Puerto Rican flag over the Statue of Liberty.
00:30:46.000And then it cuts smash cuts to a bunch of guys sitting around a radio and listening as if it's like the 1980s, again, Ghostbusters 2, in, you know, like in Brooklyn or something, or the Bronx.
00:31:01.000And it's like this AI Trump apologizing to Mexicans and his just bizarre.
00:31:20.000Yeah, they speak Spanish, but a lot, most of them do speak English.
00:31:23.000Let's have some real thought crimes, boys.
00:31:25.000But I mean, here, it is kind of annoying.
00:31:28.000The biggest thing I think, it's like when he says it's going to be unifying, well, I mean, okay, but you probably should have talked to Bad Bunny about that first, Roger, you buffoon.
00:31:38.000Because, you know, he came out and he instantly was like, I don't, I'm not going to speak English, and you guys all have four months to learn Spanish.
00:31:45.000So, I mean, I think the message is pretty clear, you know?
00:31:56.000We just had this major referendum in the country.
00:31:58.000You have to research these artists and understand that if they're going to take certain positions, you know, you're going to have to deal with that blowback.
00:32:05.000So you can't act like this is not a political thing when the guys put out videos like that, put out statements like that.
00:32:11.000But I mean, to me, it's, it's, they just always play to the mob of never wanting to offend anybody except the American right.
00:32:19.000I mean, why are we always the ones that have to kind of be offended or they have to push us?
00:33:56.000He had to come out and give a statement about Bad Bunny because of TPUSA.
00:34:01.000And that just shows the power and the strength of TPUSA and what Charlie and what Tyler and then Andrew tried to clean up some of the messes here and there.
00:34:12.000Obviously, he wasn't able to clean up much on his own part.
00:34:17.000And it just shows the power of what Charlie built, right?
00:34:22.000It shows the power of this movement and shows the power of what TPUSA is because you've got the commissioner of the NFL has to come out and give a statement saying that we're going to stick with Bad Bunny because legitimately, people just don't like this guy.
00:37:45.000So it's like, by the way, so like, you know, I might be Polish, but I did play Bernardo in Westride's story.
00:37:52.000So I think I know a little bit about Puerto Rico and Puerto Rico and the Puerto Rico.
00:38:03.000But there's a whole song in Westside Story about like Puerto Ricans coming to the whole musical is literally about Puerto Ricans coming to America and they're like dumping on Puerto Rico.
00:38:16.000And I think for the movie, they had to like sanitize the lyrics.
00:38:19.000I think, is that, is that Ariana Grande?
00:38:23.000In the movie, they had to totally change it because they were like, okay, this goes a little, I think it's Rogers and Hammerstein is the original.
00:38:29.000And they're like, this goes a little bit too hard on Puerto Rico.
00:38:32.000Like you, you, you lousy island everything.
00:38:57.000But it's the same deal with like I served in Guam a couple of times.
00:39:01.000Guam's U.S. territory, but it's got its own unique culture.
00:39:05.000And I'm just saying there's a difference when you're born in the, you know, an actual part of the United States that is connected to other parts of the United States when there's not.
00:39:43.000If the Eagles don't go to the Super Bowl, I think you should still have to go to the Super Bowl, but you have to wear a Puerto Rican jumpsuit.
00:40:07.000Next thing I know, I'm getting emails from legitimate press outlets going, like, is Turning Point USA really planning its own halftime show?
00:40:42.000Actually, we can sing in the real, even in the movie version, even in the Spielberg film, she does actually sing Puerto Rico, My Heart's Devotion, Let It Sink Back in the Ocean.
00:40:56.000Puerto Rico in the 2021 woke era version.
00:42:11.000So explain this because there was this, you know, I guess we're doing sports today, and this is like such a Charlie story.
00:42:17.000Cash Patel pops up in New York City today, and he gives this.
00:42:21.000I love what you said about it too, Andrew, earlier, where it's like, this is just like a story that you think would happen in like normal America, like pre-insanity America.
00:42:32.000It was exactly, that's exactly what it felt like.
00:42:34.000It was like, oh, we're, you know, there's mafia ties.
00:42:38.000There's, there's a legal throwing of games.
00:42:41.000Like, so this one guy from the Miami Heat was in 2023 was basically, if you don't know, it's a prop bet that you can make on some of these platforms, whatever.
00:42:51.000A prop bet is an individual, you're betting on the individual's performance, right?
00:42:55.000How many points he's going to score over, under, how many assists, how many steals, whatever.
00:43:00.000And so basically, he says that his ankle is hurt.
00:43:04.000He goes out after the first 10 minutes.
00:43:06.000So, of course, if you bet the under on his performance and he only played 10 minutes, you're probably going to win that bet.
00:43:12.000But then there was also like Chauncey Bills, who's the head coach of the Portland Trailblazers.
00:43:17.000He's apparently been implicated in an illegal poker scheme that's been coordinated with the mafia.
00:43:25.000And they're using like x-ray and high-tech devices to cheat at poker, these high-stakes game.
00:43:30.000And they were using Chauncey Bills, Hall of Famer, now current coach, as the fishing expedition to bring in the big, the high-net worth people.
00:43:39.000Because if you hear, oh, NBA Hall of Famer is involved in this, must be legit.
00:44:21.000This is the New York FBI assistant director Christopher Raya talking about this 3-11.
00:44:27.000Victims were attracted to play alongside well-known professional athletes and coaches like Chauncey Phillips, only to be unknowingly deceived through rigged shuffling machines, fixing the odds in their favor, as alleged, and as you just heard from the U.S. Attorney's Office.
00:44:47.000This alleged scheme wreaked havoc across the nation, exploiting the notoriety of some and the wallets of many to fund the Italian crime families.
00:46:56.000If you watch any of the television tables now, so I've been at the TV table maybe two or three times.
00:47:01.000The way it works is literally, and that's the same stuff I guarantee you they were using, is when you put your cards face down, it's able to read them through the table.
00:47:09.000So like as you're on the TV table, you have to wear the microphone, but one of the rules is you have to place your cards on like this four inch by four inch area, and it's reading your cards through x-rays or through some sort of sensors.
00:47:22.000So it's not like this is new technology.
00:47:25.000It's just that obviously that's very regulated, but that's what these folks are using to go out and swindle these people out of tens, if not hundreds of thousands of dollars.
00:47:36.000This is Lane Schoenberger, Chief Investment Officer and Founding Partner of YReFi.
00:47:41.000It has been an honor and a privilege to partner with Turning Point and for Charlie to endorse us.
00:47:46.000His endorsement means the world to us, and we look forward to continuing our partnership with Turning Point for years to come.
00:47:52.000Now, here Charlie, in his own words, tell you about YReFi.
00:47:56.000I'm going to tell you guys about whyRefi.com.
00:48:45.000ESBN's own Stephen A. Smith felt just, I don't know, emboldened to bend the facts to fit an ideology, Jack, just to full circle it for you, and literally gave one of the dumbest takes I have ever heard in the history.
00:49:08.000Let's just say modern politics, because I'm sure, you know, I'm not going back to the Civil War, but in the modern politics, this is literally one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.
00:49:49.000No, he's saying that Trump is coming for the league.
00:49:52.000He's saying that because the NBA is filled with black men that typically, I guess, don't like him or that have been activists against him, that this is all a revenge tour.
00:50:02.000This is Trump coming for the FBI and the FBI sicking his FBI on the NBA out of revenge.
00:50:12.000Like literally nothing to do with President Trump.
00:50:16.000The FBI started this investigation in 2023 when this guy from the Miami Heat went down and there were tweets about it online that, hey, I heard he's going to go down with an ankle injury.
00:50:34.000And so they start looking into it and they realize there's a lot going on in the NBA and there's all these people indicted.
00:50:40.000And, you know, it's one of those things.
00:50:43.000And Angelo just pointed out there's a guy named Damon Jones, an unofficial assistant coach of the Lakers in 2022, the time of the incident.
00:50:52.000He's since retired, but probably committed the most egregious of all these violations.
00:50:58.000He allegedly sold at one of the games the information that LeBron James wouldn't be playing the following day, which then led to big bets and big wins for some of the players at the game.
00:51:31.000So they've got this whole concept where, well, we got this load management because, you know, we want to save LeBron's legs so he's fresh in the playoffs or whatever.
00:51:39.000How much load management is going on that's actually just illicit gambling over unders on prop bets?
00:52:38.000So one, I think there's the racist attack against Trump, which is the obvious one.
00:52:42.000The second, though, that's the least less obvious one is if you remember back in the election, the president had kind of some really fierce words for the owners, the NBA owners.
00:53:00.000Because I believe there's a belief that exists, which is true, that the sports franchises, which a lot of them are conservatives that run them, a lot of them are alleged conservatives, are scared of their player base and some of their fan base.
00:53:18.000And they initiated all this really anti-vicious anti-Trump rhetoric throughout the years that the president served in this first administration and in the years during the whole fake autopin presidency, right?
00:53:33.000So you had coming into 2024, I think there were some statements off to poll them, but there were some statements that the president made that was like, yeah, well, basically the sports owners are going to have to pay their dues somewhere along the lines.
00:53:50.000So there's not a ton of love lost, I think, in the sports.
00:53:53.000So you're saying there is credence to what Stephen A. Smith is saying.
00:54:17.000Yeah, the best part is that he's not really making any point.
00:54:20.000It reminds me kind of of Mark Cuban when Mark Cuban would come out and like, you know, always feel like he had to have some hot take just to be edgy and they kind of always have this rumor of like a third party presidency or this celebrity running for president.
00:54:33.000Just you don't have to have a hot take on every single issue, right?
00:55:19.000And then, you know, with the assassination, I think he saw the writing on the wall, kind of, kind of cozied up to a centrist common sense position, took a bunch of flack, and now he's flexing his progressive bona fides by coming after Trump.
00:57:03.000There has been a trend of, I think, you know, let's just say, let's be gracious and say in the ear of Trump, maybe it's a reaction to Trump.
00:57:12.000I'm open to those discussions, but there is a justification for political violence.
00:57:17.000It shows up in every poll, and it's coming from progressive.
00:58:38.000Anyways, so it was a funny unspoken thing that happened in that moment where I was like, freaking Stephen A. Smith just like chimes in out of nowhere.
00:58:47.000Like he's got a role to play in this exchange.
00:59:56.000No, instead of that, instead of trying to hold them accountable, he takes it and turns it on Trump.
01:00:03.000All these people are doing all these illegal things, swindling millions and millions and millions of dollars out of people's pockets, innocent people.
01:00:10.000And that's his take, that it's Trump's fault.
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