The Charlie Kirk Show - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 103 — Halloween Traditions? The End of DST? Boomer Space Communism

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00:01:09.000 Ladies and gentlemen, it's time once again for another edition of Thought Crime Thursday.

00:01:15.000 We are here on Thought Crime Thursday.

00:01:17.000 Today is October 30th, or as it's known in the Philadelphia area, the Northeast, where I'm from, Mischief Night.

00:01:24.000 Yes, that's right.

00:01:25.000 Mischief Night, the night before all Hallows Eve.

00:01:30.000 And we've got an illustrious panel, and I want to kind of ask about that.

00:01:34.000 So we've got Blake Neff.

00:01:35.000 He has returned from the nunnery.

00:01:37.000 What's up, Blake?

00:01:38.000 Oh, it's doing great, Jack.

00:01:40.000 I've even got the Macy's Blazer on right now.

00:01:43.000 The only blazer I've ever seen.

00:01:45.000 The one and only.

00:01:45.000 Yeah, the famous one.

00:01:47.000 Now, we had reported earlier in the last couple of weeks that you were planning on joining the nunnery.

00:01:53.000 They kicked you out, if I understand.

00:01:54.000 There was an incident.

00:01:56.000 Yeah, it turns out you got to be a woman to join. 0.85

00:01:59.000 Ah!

00:02:00.000 That's a big technicality.

00:02:02.000 It's a fine print that always gets it.

00:02:03.000 Yeah, and they're pretty big sticklers on that, it turns out.

00:02:07.000 It's the fine print that always gets you.

00:02:08.000 And we have the great Danny Phillip here.

00:02:10.000 How's it going?

00:02:10.000 What's up, brother?

00:02:11.000 Good to be on.

00:02:12.000 Let's see.

00:02:12.000 Thought crime debut.

00:02:13.000 Here we go.

00:02:14.000 We're allowing Ohio State fans onto the panel now.

00:02:18.000 I don't know if we're ever going to recover from this blow to our prestige.

00:02:20.000 National champions.

00:02:22.000 And I believe, and Andrew Colvett will be joining us, but he's very busy crying about the Dodgers right now.

00:02:30.000 Yeah, it's not looking good for them.

00:02:31.000 It's looking like they could lose to the Team Canada.

00:02:35.000 Yeah.

00:02:36.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:02:37.000 I mean, if the LA Dodgers lose to team, we'll rip him about it when he gets here, but losing and disgracing the United States, I mean, that's just Andrew for you.

00:02:47.000 You know, that's just Andrew.

00:02:48.000 I got to hand it to Andrew.

00:02:48.000 We got it.

00:02:50.000 But wait, so do you guys, so now, now, do you guys have Mischief Night where you're from?

00:02:56.000 Do you have any idea what I'm talking about when I say Mischief Night, by the way?

00:02:59.000 No, it sounds like some weird Philly thing.

00:03:02.000 Yeah, not a clue.

00:03:03.000 Yeah, but that's so funny.

00:03:05.000 So Mischief Night, and so I'd love, people should throw out whether or not they have it.

00:03:12.000 So in some areas of the country, it's called Mischief Night.

00:03:16.000 In some areas of, this is like, it's a total regional thing.

00:03:19.000 In some areas, it's called, I believe, Devil's Night.

00:03:23.000 That's Michigan, I think.

00:03:25.000 Michigan, right?

00:03:25.000 Apparently in most of the country, yeah, in Michigan, but apparently in most of the country, it's not celebrated at all.

00:03:30.000 This is the night before Halloween.

00:03:33.000 And so when I was growing up, this was like every single October 30th.

00:03:37.000 This is what you, I mean, not that I would ever partake in such a, you know, horrific and painful and obviously wrong ritual where, right, you would, you would go out and commit mischief.

00:03:49.000 So like kids would go out and commit mischief.

00:03:52.000 And it's like, it's very much like a, I'm looking at the map right now.

00:03:55.000 It's like New Jersey, Philadelphia, Delaware, and that's it, where you go out and you commit mischief, TPing trees and houses, egging houses.

00:04:06.000 I think in the New York area, they do it as well a little bit.

00:04:10.000 And then Devil's Night is a night for it in Michigan.

00:04:13.000 And then some of the other parts of the country have just random names for it, but it's not quite as big.

00:04:19.000 And the, you know, the, the, apparently, you know, it's in the film The Crow.

00:04:24.000 It's in the film The Crow.

00:04:25.000 And, but apparently in the rest of the country, it's just like totally not a thing at all.

00:04:32.000 I'm not, I would.

00:04:33.000 So like, what kind of, what kind of mischief are we talking about here?

00:04:36.000 Is this like TPing people's houses?

00:04:39.000 Is this like putting up Pittsburgh Steelers decals on their cars?

00:04:44.000 Is this putting Ohio State?

00:04:47.000 What kind of mischief did the Posto brothers do?

00:04:50.000 I mean, the Posto brothers have never done anything for Mischief Night other than sit out and defend our homes from those who might perform mischief on us.

00:04:59.000 So I may have hidden in my tree a couple of times trying to catch people who are coming in on a few nights.

00:05:08.000 No, but it's a huge thing in the Philly area.

00:05:10.000 And people go around.

00:05:12.000 You even get to the point where people were, you know, they'd go out taking baseball bats to mailboxes and stuff like that.

00:05:18.000 And look, if you're going to do anything that's permanent damage, that's just completely bad form.

00:05:23.000 You don't want to do permanent, bad damage to Mischief Night.

00:05:27.000 But apparently this is the thought crime because I did not realize that, you know, growing up, it's so incredibly normalized where I'm from that it's like, I don't even, I don't know if people still, you know, do it as much.

00:05:39.000 It's not quite as big.

00:05:40.000 We know we obviously we live in the age of like ring cameras now.

00:05:43.000 So I feel like that would probably put a little bit of a damper on it.

00:05:46.000 But, you know, you run around, you go around with masks, you run with hoods.

00:05:49.000 It's not exactly like it's hard to defeat a ring camera.

00:05:53.000 But I don't know if people are, if people are in the chat or sending in emails, let us know.

00:05:56.000 Did you ever celebrate Mischief Night or Devil's Night?

00:06:01.000 Do you think that's something that you would let your kids do?

00:06:04.000 I don't know that I'd let my kids do it.

00:06:06.000 But if my kids went out, you know, I mean, they're too young for it right now.

00:06:10.000 If they went out to defend the household, I would certainly say that.

00:06:13.000 I know.

00:06:13.000 I'm from downtown Chicago, so I feel like every night is Mischief Night.

00:06:17.000 Yeah, yeah, that seems correct.

00:06:19.000 Yeah.

00:06:20.000 So I don't know.

00:06:21.000 I may be more used to it than you, even, Jack.

00:06:25.000 Well, see, that's the difference, but it's not, it's, it's mischief night, right?

00:06:29.000 It's not like, it's not like wanton crime.

00:06:31.000 We're going to shoot up the town kind of night.

00:06:35.000 Supposedly, I'm just pulling this up.

00:06:37.000 Apparently it came from England in the 19th century and was originally linked to May Day or Guy Fawkes Night, of course, November 5th, which is coming up, and when kids would play pranks and minor vandalism, which was once tolerated as part of the festival, and this was brought to North America, throwing eggs or toilet paper, soaping windows, knocking over trash cans, ding-dong ditch, moving porch furniture, writing on car windows with shaving cream.

00:07:03.000 It's meant to be prankish, not destructive, though in some places, like Detroit's infamous Devil's Night in the 70s to 90s, it escalated to serious vandalism and arson.

00:07:13.000 Apparently in New England, they call it Cabbage Night, which just sounds horrible.

00:07:20.000 That's really lame.

00:07:21.000 After the practice of throwing old cabbage.

00:07:25.000 Wow, that's pretty, you know, that's pretty wild up there for the New Englanders.

00:07:29.000 You guys are throwing out the old cabbage.

00:07:31.000 And then upstate New York, they call it Gate Night.

00:07:34.000 Oh, get ready for this because in upstate New York, they get really crazy.

00:07:38.000 They unlatch the gates on farms, which actually, if you have like cows, that could be really bad.

00:07:45.000 That actually sounds really dangerous.

00:07:46.000 People could hit those cows. 0.98

00:07:47.000 Yeah, that could be like really bad.

00:07:49.000 The bigger thing about this is like, you know, we're wondering if people do these accessories to Halloween, but the real decay in America is people barely do Halloween anymore.

00:07:58.000 So I'm going to give my public service announcement to everyone involved.

00:08:01.000 Trunk or treat is not Halloween, period.

00:08:05.000 Like it is not real Halloween if you just go to a bunch of people in a parking lot and get candy.

00:08:11.000 Like I would call it a trunk or treat trunk or treat trunk or treat.

00:08:16.000 Yeah, no, we do trunk or treat.

00:08:18.000 Wait, I always thought it was trick-or-treat.

00:08:18.000 But we do.

00:08:20.000 So it's trick-or-treat when you do it.

00:08:22.000 No, no, no.

00:08:23.000 It started during COVID.

00:08:26.000 No, it predates COVID because it's not even a health thing.

00:08:29.000 It's paranoid parents.

00:08:32.000 It really took off during COVID.

00:08:36.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:08:36.000 And it's just gotten worse in general.

00:08:38.000 They all hate their neighbors.

00:08:38.000 Everyone's paranoid.

00:08:39.000 They don't trust anyone.

00:08:41.000 So nobody does normal trick-or-treat.

00:08:43.000 I can't remember the last time I've actually had trick-or-treaters come to a place I live because no one really does it anymore.

00:08:50.000 It's actually very sad.

00:08:51.000 Or is it just because they know you live there?

00:08:53.000 Also possible.

00:08:54.000 Also possible.

00:08:55.000 But I'm usually pretty good at covering up my home address.

00:08:57.000 Yeah, I spent the last four years living on a college campus.

00:09:00.000 So the only people coming to my house are probably looking for alcohol.

00:09:04.000 Not really candy.

00:09:05.000 So not used to that either.

00:09:07.000 Yeah, I drink too much.

00:09:09.000 I'm reading the chat, by the way.

00:09:10.000 I am seeing people saying they remember Mischief Night.

00:09:14.000 I'm seeing people these days, kids do that every day.

00:09:19.000 No shame.

00:09:20.000 They'll throw knives instead of eggs. 0.99

00:09:21.000 There's a guy right here.

00:09:22.000 When I was a child, they would burn down Detroit for Devil's Night.

00:09:26.000 Okay, that's obviously not what we're going.

00:09:28.000 It's obviously not what we're going for.

00:09:29.000 We went to Detroit.

00:09:30.000 Of course.

00:09:31.000 But no, it's, yeah, again, Detroit, right?

00:09:33.000 But no, seriously, Mischief Night, huge thing.

00:09:36.000 It was always kind of a lot of fun.

00:09:38.000 You would, you'd like go to your, I don't know, sometimes it'd be your buddy's house or sometimes it could be your rival's house.

00:09:43.000 Again, so I hear in Minecraft that this would be done to, you know, to kind of like get back at people and then you would, and then you would bounce off from there.

00:09:53.000 Yeah, I'm just, yeah, I'm really upset about this trunk or treat trend.

00:09:58.000 And actually, the funny thing is it's not even just me being carmudgeonly.

00:10:02.000 I think it actually is a real indicator of the decline.

00:10:05.000 I hear you saying that.

00:10:05.000 Oh, yeah, I know.

00:10:07.000 And it's funny because people will say it's about safety.

00:10:09.000 And yet Americans felt much more fine doing trick-or-treating when America was a less safe country.

00:10:18.000 Like most, frankly, I'll be frank.

00:10:20.000 Most of you live in a place where it would be perfectly safe for your children to go door to door ringing doorbells.

00:10:29.000 Just period.

00:10:30.000 Most of you live in a place where it's safe enough to do that, especially if everyone else is doing it.

00:10:34.000 And people just are not doing it.

00:10:36.000 And that is a decline in the American spirit.

00:10:39.000 It's a decline in the American community.

00:10:41.000 And we need to revive the Halloween tradition.

00:10:44.000 I'm sorry.

00:10:45.000 This is a matter of national security.

00:10:47.000 See, I didn't even know what trunk or treat was because they still do it in downtown Chicago as far as I know.

00:10:53.000 Like we did it my entire time.

00:10:55.000 No, trunk or treat is huge.

00:10:56.000 Trunk or treat is coming from a guy who has kids. 0.97

00:11:00.000 We've probably done at least two.

00:11:04.000 We've done two already this year.

00:11:06.000 Blake, we've done two trunk or treats already.

00:11:09.000 Feels massive.

00:11:09.000 I'm sorry.

00:11:10.000 But we entirely plan to go trick-or-treating as well.

00:11:14.000 So it's not like, it's not like we're replacing it.

00:11:18.000 Okay, as long as you also trick-or-treat.

00:11:20.000 As long as you also trick-or-treat, but most, a pretty large share of people are only just, they're doing trunk or treat on Halloween or the night before or sometime around it.

00:11:29.000 And that's it.

00:11:30.000 That is the extent of their Halloween effort.

00:11:33.000 And it, it greatly upsets me. 0.99

00:11:36.000 No, that's absolute garbage.

00:11:38.000 And it's, and it's, and by the way, it's totally cool because I see people in the chat. 0.98

00:11:41.000 They're saying, you know, they're saying, well, what if you do it at your church for fellowship?

00:11:44.000 That's great.

00:11:45.000 That's totally fine.

00:11:46.000 I love that.

00:11:47.000 That's we do that at our church.

00:11:49.000 We do that at my kids' school.

00:11:51.000 Um, we had one that was sort of like a local, just a local trunk-or-treat.

00:11:55.000 Um, there's also one that we usually go to.

00:11:57.000 We didn't make it to this year, though, um, at a drive-in movie theater.

00:12:02.000 And at the same time, though, we are going to be doing we're going to be doing regular trick-or-treating as well.

00:12:08.000 Now, we do now.

00:12:09.000 This could be a thought crime.

00:12:09.000 Here's a question, though.

00:12:11.000 And I know we have like a much longer Halloween discussion later, but is it oh, is it appropriate to go trick-or-treating outside of your neighborhood?

00:12:22.000 What do you think about that?

00:12:23.000 Like, how, how far?

00:12:25.000 When I was so when I was a kid, we would generally walk around our neighborhood, but we, my, our parents would have a car and we would sometimes drive a little ways away, but it would still probably count as our neighborhood.

00:12:37.000 We weren't driving to the other side of Sioux Falls or anything like that.

00:12:41.000 But I guess you're imagining like if you drove to the rich part of town where they'd give out like whole candy bars.

00:12:45.000 Yeah, because that's the whole thing, right?

00:12:46.000 Like, if you go to the part of town where they give out the full-size candy bars and everybody knows where it is, right?

00:12:54.000 It's, I feel like it's probably not okay.

00:12:58.000 It's probably not, um, it's probably not okay if you're just doing that out of you know, out of like trying to take you know, candy from rich people.

00:13:06.000 But, but if you're, I don't know, if you're invited to like a party that's in that area, then I don't think that would be as bad, right?

00:13:13.000 I don't have a strong issue with it.

00:13:15.000 I obviously you should probably be sent to the guillotine if you do the like if they leave out the bowl and you raid the entire bowl, which some people do. 0.95

00:13:25.000 No, that's horrifying. 0.99

00:13:25.000 That is demonic. 0.99

00:13:26.000 And yeah, you probably think you go to hell if you do that.

00:13:30.000 I don't know in Chicago.

00:13:30.000 So, Dane, tell it, tell us about Chicago.

00:13:32.000 What's Chicago Halloween like?

00:13:34.000 It's uh, I feel like it's pretty normal, at least how I thought we would trick-or-treat, just walk around.

00:13:39.000 We never drove anywhere because everything's so close together in Chicago.

00:13:43.000 Um, but we would, I mean, growing up, we used to go to the rich neighborhoods that had like the king-size bars or whatever, but then a certain group of people ruined that every year.

00:13:52.000 Um, so that that stopped, but um, yeah, I mean, I felt like it was pretty normal in Chicago, so I never heard of this trunk or treat, any of that.

00:14:02.000 So, when you say Chicago, where do you really mean in Chicago?

00:14:04.000 Lincoln Park, so actually in this city, so I'm not like a suburb, not from Chicago.

00:14:09.000 All right, I got to look up where that is.

00:14:13.000 It's like the north part of the city, it's like three or four miles.

00:14:17.000 Yeah, they shall remain nameless.

00:14:18.000 A certain group of people uh ruined almost every Halloween.

00:14:21.000 The zombies rich, that's unfortunate, constantly causing trouble.

00:14:25.000 Yep, you know, we had some like memorable people.

00:14:30.000 We had the guys who gave out full candy bars, of course.

00:14:33.000 But the one I remember, we had a house maybe it'd be the equivalent of about maybe two or three blocks away from where I live.

00:14:40.000 But, you know, kind of you get these circuitous roads in Sioux Falls.

00:14:43.000 But this guy, he had made a bunch of money, I think, during the original 1.0.com boom in the late 90s.

00:14:52.000 And he had an absolutely monstrous set of lights for every holiday.

00:14:57.000 Like, would fully decorate the house and lawn.

00:15:00.000 I think he had to pay someone to do it because it was such a thing.

00:15:02.000 He had a whole separate unit for storing all of his lights.

00:15:06.000 And he would do this for Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas, Valentine's Day.

00:15:12.000 I believe he even did it for St. Patrick's Day.

00:15:15.000 There was a good 4th of July, of course.

00:15:17.000 I think a good six to eight holidays a year.

00:15:20.000 He fully decked out everything.

00:15:22.000 And so for Halloween, of course, he had a very legendary setup.

00:15:25.000 And I believe he was a full candy bar giver-outer person.

00:15:29.000 So I think there'd be a line at his pretty cool.

00:15:32.000 I never understood why people spend so much or go so crazy decorating for Halloween.

00:15:38.000 No, but you see, out of all holidays, I feel like Halloween should be lower on the totem pole.

00:15:45.000 Just some people are like, we're having that debate when Andrew gets here.

00:15:50.000 You know, we should be in favor of that.

00:15:52.000 This is actually a powerfully ancient thing.

00:15:55.000 It is a good thing when private citizens feel the drive to create goods for everyone to consume.

00:16:04.000 And a very mild form of that is making your house look really cool for everyone who visits it or walks by it or goes up to it.

00:16:12.000 It is a powerful public good when people want their houses to look really sweet.

00:16:17.000 And that's awesome.

00:16:19.000 We should encourage it.

00:16:20.000 I am fine.

00:16:21.000 And then everyone goes nuts on Christmas lights, everything like that.

00:16:26.000 We've got a house on our block where they've got lights up that are up like 365 days a year.

00:16:33.000 And so what they do with their lights, it's kind of interesting.

00:16:36.000 They have like, I guess it's programmable because they can change colors.

00:16:41.000 And what they'll do is depending on, it's kind of like what you were just saying about your neighbor, but what they'll do is it's always the same set of lights, but then they can just change the color scheme for whatever the holiday is.

00:16:51.000 So if it's St. Patrick's Day, they could turn it all green.

00:16:54.000 If it's if it thinks, if it's Halloween, they can make it.

00:16:57.000 I think right now it's like orange and purple.

00:16:59.000 So it's actually kind of nice.

00:17:00.000 Like you only have to decorate once and then they just stay up.

00:17:03.000 Jack, we've got a dono message from Big Man S17.

00:17:07.000 Is that season 17?

00:17:09.000 Like The Simpsons or something.

00:17:10.000 Oh, that would only be halfway through The Simpsons.

00:17:12.000 They've been a long a long time.

00:17:13.000 He says, I've seen some people say that it is demonic for a kid to put on a Hulk costume because it is putting on a new identity laugh emoji, I think a face palm emoji, and a dude emoji.

00:17:31.000 I like that combo of emojis.

00:17:33.000 And yeah, I mean, that's the thing, though.

00:17:35.000 It's like, it's not a new identity for the Hulk.

00:17:37.000 He still is Bruce Banner.

00:17:38.000 He just is really angry.

00:17:41.000 Unless you're doing the She-Hulk, because that TV show was awful and she was like this woke girl. 0.84

00:17:46.000 They made She-Hulk like a lawyer. 1.00

00:17:49.000 And then she's a lawyer, even in, I think she's a lawyer in the original comics. 0.98

00:17:53.000 Not that I would read comics because she's so bad that I don't even know any of this. 0.96

00:18:00.000 Do you know who the Hulk is?

00:18:01.000 I know who the Hulk is.

00:18:02.000 I don't know.

00:18:03.000 Name 15 Hulk villains.

00:18:03.000 Really?

00:18:05.000 No idea.

00:18:07.000 Red Hulk.

00:18:08.000 Red Hulk.

00:18:09.000 Abomination.

00:18:10.000 He's just Hulk. 0.99

00:18:12.000 Like uglier. 0.69

00:18:13.000 Interesting.

00:18:14.000 Was never into this growing up.

00:18:14.000 Yeah.

00:18:17.000 Wolverine's original appearance was as an enemy to Hulk.

00:18:20.000 Like, I just stick to Ohio State football, where they win every game, basically.

00:18:25.000 I bet a lot of Ohio State fans kind of look like the Hulk, except like with remote and more other.

00:18:31.000 I guess they look more like the blob from X-Men.

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00:19:44.000 In addition to Halloween coming up, we also have daylight savings time this weekend.

00:19:49.000 But although actually we're turning off daylight savings time.

00:19:52.000 So we're currently in daylight savings time right now.

00:19:56.000 We're going to be turning that off.

00:19:57.000 And for only four months of the year now, we are going back to natural time, to God's time.

00:20:05.000 God's time.

00:20:06.000 And that time, for some reason, we decided to play God for eight months of the year.

00:20:13.000 And so, Blake, you know, we've talked about this a number of times on the show.

00:20:18.000 And I think we actually have a clip of Charlie talking about it.

00:20:21.000 Let's play clip 300.

00:20:23.000 I'm not a fan of daylight savings time.

00:20:25.000 Falling back, springing forward should just remain the same time throughout the entire year.

00:20:31.000 In fact, we should spring forward even more so that the fall, it's the opposite.

00:20:37.000 I never understood that in the most depressing time of weather, we also made it darker intentionally.

00:20:45.000 Who thought of this thing?

00:20:48.000 Makes zero sense.

00:20:49.000 Now, I know you're going to say it's Benjamin Franklin and all this.

00:20:53.000 He was too smart for this.

00:20:53.000 No way.

00:20:55.000 I think it's a Nicole Hannah-Jones conspiracy against Benjamin Franklin.

00:20:59.000 There's no way.

00:21:00.000 I'm not sure where he's going with that because he would appreciate, Charlie would appreciate the real people who came up with daylight savings time are basically evil like Woodrow Wilson and centralized government cabal.

00:21:14.000 I think it came out during World War I. And then FDR brought it back from his evil scheme to like, it was one of his big government New Deal ideas.

00:21:25.000 They thought it would stimulate the economy.

00:21:26.000 I'm not making this up.

00:21:27.000 They thought it would stimulate the economy if there was more light later because people would shop more.

00:21:33.000 That was the reasoning.

00:21:34.000 And people come up with these weird things where they say, it's because of farmers.

00:21:39.000 And all I would say is, have you ever met a farmer?

00:21:43.000 Does the cow need to be milked? 0.80

00:21:45.000 Does the cow follow daylight savings time when you milk it?

00:21:49.000 Does the corn follow daylight savings time?

00:21:52.000 No, they follow this thing that God gave us called the sun.

00:21:52.000 No.

00:21:57.000 But why if you're a farmer, you get up when the sun comes up.

00:22:00.000 Why are we making it though darker earlier in the morning?

00:22:03.000 Daylight savings time seems so much better, especially if you're from the Midwest where it gets darker that way.

00:22:10.000 God made it so that the noonday sun is directly over our heads and man in his arrogance tries to move it later.

00:22:17.000 And that is, you know, we will be held accountable.

00:22:21.000 I think it's just you've never experienced the Chicago February then.

00:22:25.000 And Andrew's here, but I think the problem with this was when they tried, because they tried to do daylight savings year-round ones, and they said, we'll stop changing it.

00:22:32.000 We'll keep it daylight savings year-round.

00:22:34.000 And then the problem was in some parts, particularly the northern parts of the country, it wasn't getting, the sun wasn't coming up until like 8.30, 9 a.m., like well beyond the time that like kids had to go to school and people had to go to work and it was just horrible.

00:22:48.000 It's just absolutely horrible.

00:22:51.000 And so the goal is to try to get it so that sunrise is generally around the same nominal time every day.

00:22:58.000 And so this is also why Andrew Huberman, so the great Huberman, we know Charlie's a huge fan of his, was always and has maintained that he is in favor of getting rid of daylight savings time completely because it is healthier for you to have light earlier.

00:23:14.000 He said, this actually is better for your circadian rhythms.

00:23:17.000 This is better for you naturally.

00:23:18.000 It is obviously what God ordained.

00:23:21.000 And we are the ones who try to play God by shifting our time to move with the seasons rather than actually just use the seasons as they were given.

00:23:31.000 But then it's like pitch black dark when you're coming home from school.

00:23:35.000 So I never understood that argument because yes, it's light going there, but then on the way back, it's dark out.

00:23:41.000 So one of them is dark.

00:23:44.000 We would get back at like 4.15 from the bus.

00:23:48.000 Yeah.

00:23:48.000 Real quick, before we go to Andrew here, Big Man gave us another $5 donation.

00:23:53.000 He says, My name is Cade, but Rumble won't let me change my name.

00:23:57.000 God bless Charlie.

00:23:58.000 God bless you guys.

00:24:00.000 Thank you for doing this show, my brothers.

00:24:02.000 Thank you, Cade.

00:24:03.000 Thank you very much.

00:24:04.000 Andrew, are you in favor of the cabal that defies the noonday sun?

00:24:10.000 You know, because you guys used to always gang up on Charlie, I would just sort of pick his side in this because I will say, I hate when we fall back.

00:24:20.000 When you fall back, it's very aggressive.

00:24:22.000 However, I thought about this a long time, and I understand Huberman's argument.

00:24:27.000 And I actually have started to do exactly what Jack is saying.

00:24:30.000 When in the early morning, I'll actually seek out sunlight to help me wake up because I have to now do the show and stuff.

00:24:37.000 Well, I heard that it was really good for you, so I started doing it.

00:24:40.000 And it does tend to perk you up.

00:24:42.000 And so my thinking has evolved on this.

00:24:44.000 I think I would love to give it a shot to try standard time all year long because I realized if we did that, then you wouldn't have that abrupt fall back, which is the part that everybody hates.

00:24:56.000 Everybody hates when it gets dark at like four o'clock in the afternoon.

00:25:00.000 That's what everybody hates.

00:25:01.000 But if you were, it's like the frog boiling in a pot of boiling water slowly, right?

00:25:08.000 You slowly, gradually get to it, so you won't hate it as much.

00:25:11.000 Now, if you, it's the abruptness of it.

00:25:14.000 Schegenauer says, keep God's time year-round.

00:25:18.000 Amen.

00:25:20.000 In our coming arrogance, in this secular age, we have revolted against God's ordained time for humanity.

00:25:20.000 So I do it.

00:25:29.000 And I don't think God likes to be mocked.

00:25:31.000 I think we can list off the men who built the Tower of Babel, the city of Sodom, the city of Gomorrah. 0.94

00:25:38.000 Like, what if Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed because they were doing daylight savings time?

00:25:43.000 I think this has to be explored.

00:25:45.000 Why were they destroyed, Blake?

00:25:47.000 I mean, it might be what I just said, Jack.

00:25:50.000 Or do you want to be more specific?

00:25:53.000 I don't know.

00:25:54.000 Like, that's what happens.

00:25:55.000 The angels visited Lot, and then the men assembled outside and they said, send those men out here because we want to check their watches and see what time it is and move it an hour forward.

00:26:04.000 That is what they wanted.

00:26:06.000 It would have been sundial, wrist, wrist, wrist dials at the time.

00:26:10.000 Wrist sundials.

00:26:14.000 Man, just, I can't believe these evil things.

00:26:16.000 Oh, Jack, do you want to interrogate Andrew on your Halloween thought crime?

00:26:20.000 Oh, I do, actually.

00:26:22.000 By the way, I just wanted to say, I'm sorry I'm late.

00:26:25.000 Complicated business.

00:26:28.000 Yeah, we had, we're doing a whole thing here today.

00:26:31.000 And actually, Jesse Waters, I tweeted about it, is doing his show live from Turning Point HQ.

00:26:36.000 So I had to go do that.

00:26:38.000 It was an honor.

00:26:38.000 I didn't have to.

00:26:39.000 I got to.

00:26:40.000 But, anyways, go ahead, Jack.

00:26:42.000 So here's my question.

00:26:43.000 So I was asking, do you know what holiday tonight is?

00:26:50.000 It's not All Saints.

00:26:51.000 It's not.

00:26:55.000 Hold on.

00:26:59.000 All Saints comes after, doesn't it?

00:27:01.000 It's the.

00:27:02.000 All Saints comes after.

00:27:03.000 So what is the night before Halloween?

00:27:06.000 Shoot, I forgot.

00:27:07.000 And like when you were growing up, when you were growing up, did you have anything tonight?

00:27:10.000 Did you call it anything tonight?

00:27:12.000 No, we didn't.

00:27:13.000 Although we are, I did.

00:27:14.000 I'm a cradle Catholic, so we probably should have, but I don't think my family was.

00:27:18.000 No, it's not a Catholic thing.

00:27:20.000 Oh, okay.

00:27:21.000 I figured it was because you're into that sort of thing.

00:27:23.000 No, it's not.

00:27:24.000 No, I don't know.

00:27:25.000 What's the answer?

00:27:26.000 So, no, so when I was growing up, apparently this is like a philosophy culture.

00:27:32.000 This is like the Texas June Saw Massacre.

00:27:36.000 It's like the Juneteenth mass. 0.95

00:27:38.000 It's not Juneteenth.

00:27:39.000 No, I just said it.

00:27:40.000 Real holiday.

00:27:43.000 By the way, can we just all acknowledge that Juneteenth was like Charlie's least favorite holiday?

00:27:47.000 Because it's not a real holiday.

00:27:49.000 It was not a holiday.

00:27:49.000 Yeah, what was your Philadelphia tasty cakes version of Halloween the night before?

00:27:55.000 No, it's not Halloween.

00:27:57.000 It's the night before Halloween.

00:27:58.000 We said it earlier before you got here, but we called it Mischief Night.

00:28:01.000 And so this was a night that kids would go out and perform mischief and pranks and stuff in the town to people you knew or whatever.

00:28:12.000 And apparently, we were just looking up.

00:28:14.000 Apparently, it comes from England and in the 19th century.

00:28:19.000 And so it's called Mischief Night.

00:28:21.000 And I pulled this map up where it's like new, it's like a little bit of New York, but then New Jersey, Philadelphia, Delaware, and then Michigan, it's called Devil's Night.

00:28:31.000 But apparently, the rest of the country has nothing tonight.

00:28:34.000 But for me, it's a terrible state.

00:28:36.000 I'm Ohio.

00:28:37.000 For me, it's like October 30th is like, this is the night you got to be on guard because if you get caught lacking on Mischief Night, you're going to be in trouble.

00:28:44.000 You're in big trouble.

00:28:45.000 Mischief.

00:28:46.000 That just sounds like a left-wing state would get into that. 1.00

00:28:49.000 I would say, wait, now, if it came from England, that makes sense why it would be in New England mostly.

00:28:56.000 I don't understand the Michigan tie-in.

00:28:58.000 Well, apparently in New England, they call it Cabbage Night, which is just awful.

00:29:02.000 What?

00:29:03.000 Well, that midicundan, the whole Acela corridor.

00:29:06.000 You know what I mean?

00:29:07.000 The whole Acel corridor.

00:29:08.000 There's like a whole throwing cabbage thing out thing.

00:29:10.000 But it's no, it was always a lot of, so I hear it was a lot of fun for the people who would do it.

00:29:17.000 Not that myself or my brother would ever be caught doing such a thing as this.

00:29:22.000 You are not hooligans in the slightest.

00:29:25.000 Actually, I do want to go.

00:29:26.000 No, no, no.

00:29:26.000 Just really quick.

00:29:27.000 Here we go.

00:29:28.000 Who in our audience?

00:29:30.000 Two questions.

00:29:31.000 Freedom at CharlieKirk.com, Freedom at CharlieKirk.com.

00:29:34.000 I want to know two things.

00:29:35.000 I want to know: one, who's ever heard of this Mischief Night or Cabbage Night stuff?

00:29:41.000 Secondly, I want to know if you want to keep Daylight Savings Time or if you want to try standard time all year long.

00:29:48.000 Those are the two questions.

00:29:50.000 Send us your emails: freedom at CharlieKirk.com, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:29:54.000 I actually want to know the daylight savings time.

00:29:56.000 I have just absolutely never heard of Cabbage Night in the world.

00:30:00.000 No, nobody's ever.

00:30:01.000 What Jack's not telling you, too, is he used to hide in trees and terrorize all the kids in the neighborhood, apparently.

00:30:06.000 I did not terrorize the kids.

00:30:08.000 I was defending the home.

00:30:09.000 Were you an actual kid when you did this, or was this last year?

00:30:12.000 You're working on creepy adult-aged probably after I crossed into the teenage high school years.

00:30:21.000 Oh, buddy.

00:30:22.000 Well, we won't judge you.

00:30:24.000 We won't judge you.

00:30:26.000 Maybe a little bit.

00:30:27.000 Maybe a little bit.

00:30:29.000 All right, so we're getting it in.

00:30:30.000 No, and it's, and by the way, there's a whole movie about this.

00:30:33.000 You can go watch Mischief Night.

00:30:34.000 I think there's like two movies about it.

00:30:37.000 And it's famously in The Crow.

00:30:39.000 If you watch the movie The Crow from the 90s, it's in there.

00:30:45.000 The Crow.

00:30:46.000 Isn't that the one where isn't The Crow where the dude got killed on set?

00:30:50.000 Or Brandon Marie got shot by the prophecy by the crop gun.

00:30:54.000 It was like a, yeah, it's crazy.

00:30:56.000 Yeah, I hear stories like that, and it actually bothers me.

00:31:00.000 They Alec Baldwin him.

00:31:02.000 Yeah.

00:31:03.000 Wait, I want to get to this Gavin doubles down.

00:31:05.000 I don't want to rush us, but I really do want to get to it.

00:31:07.000 Gavin.

00:31:08.000 If you want to hit the Gavin, we can hit the Gavin because then we were going to have an actual Halloween debate.

00:31:12.000 Oh, we were?

00:31:13.000 Yeah, what's the debate now?

00:31:18.000 Well, so the debate is, and I'm seeing it in the chat already.

00:31:21.000 If we want to go to that, we can go to that.

00:31:23.000 Where there are people who are saying that you should not celebrate Halloween because it is demonic.

00:31:30.000 And I get this every single year.

00:31:32.000 People will say, Pesobic, how can you do this? 0.98

00:31:35.000 How can you celebrate the Devil's Night?

00:31:36.000 How could you allow your children to do such a thing?

00:31:40.000 It's so horrible. 0.99

00:31:41.000 It's disgusting. 0.83

00:31:42.000 It's demonic, et cetera, et cetera.

00:31:44.000 And I see it in the chat every single time I talk about Halloween, at least since I've been like, you know, had a public profile or whatever, that I get this every single year.

00:31:54.000 And every single year, I've been fighting from the pro-Halloween perspective by explaining the true history of Halloween as a Christian holiday.

00:32:04.000 Yeah, I kind of take the, I kind of take the Chesterton line about it where he says, like, fairy tales are good, not because they say dragons are real, but because they say dragons can be beaten.

00:32:14.000 And, yeah, it's kind of like that with Halloween.

00:32:16.000 I think what I'd say is, this actually is a funny one.

00:32:19.000 I actually kind of greatly dislike horror movies that are really bleak, where like the demons just win at the end.

00:32:25.000 I think the hidden ones.

00:32:27.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:32:28.000 Or these new ones.

00:32:29.000 There's been some recent ones.

00:32:30.000 Like, I think Hereditary has a completely bleak ending, and that was a really popular one.

00:32:34.000 It does, yeah.

00:32:35.000 But like, I would say if you make a horror movie where, you know, in the end, righteousness triumphs and, you know, the demons are defeated, I think that's the proper way to approach Halloween.

00:32:46.000 You can say, the demons are scary.

00:32:49.000 They do many evil things.

00:32:51.000 But in the end, righteousness and, you know, the power of God and so forth can defeat them.

00:32:55.000 And then I see, I feel like that is a morally vindicating thing for us to promote.

00:33:01.000 Well, I think of it as like, you know, it's not Chester, but C.S. Lewis and Tolkien wrote fantasy and they wrote, you know, they obviously were not afraid of things.

00:33:12.000 And I remember when I first became a Christian, I was, I think we were, you know, listen, it's not exactly C.S. Lewis, but I remember we were, it was like I was in college and we went to see some movie.

00:33:23.000 Actually, I want to say it was Harry Potter, but I'm not, can't really remember.

00:33:27.000 But it was like something like that, right?

00:33:28.000 And I remember.

00:33:29.000 Yeah, you want to talk demonic.

00:33:30.000 Let's talk about Harry Potter.

00:33:31.000 Yeah, so no, fair enough.

00:33:32.000 But I got this talking to from the guy I was going with, his mom was like, your lives are so blessed.

00:33:40.000 Don't subject yourself to this darkness and all this stuff.

00:33:43.000 And I remember kind of being like caught off guard because that's not the way I grew up.

00:33:46.000 My parents like never talked like that.

00:33:48.000 And all of a sudden I was, you know, had this buddy's mom who was freaking out on us.

00:33:52.000 And I was like, well, no, it's just like, you know, it's a movie.

00:33:54.000 Now, I would say that I sort of see things in the middle now.

00:33:59.000 I do think you can open yourself up to darkness and dark spirits and you can entertain dark spirits in a way that is unhealthy.

00:34:05.000 I actually really believe that.

00:34:06.000 I actually believe if we're going to get into it, like some of these ayahuasca, you know, their pharmakea is the word for sorcery, you know, in the Bible.

00:34:16.000 And here's what's interesting about that is that, you know, drugs can cause hallucinations.

00:34:20.000 It can open up, I think, spiritual pathways to darkness.

00:34:24.000 I do also think if you become too interested or intrigued by dark and demonic ideas and things, you can open yourself up to this stuff.

00:34:31.000 That being said, I like kind of where your head was at.

00:34:35.000 I think it's actually can be really good for young minds to think about fantasy and fairy tale and even dark fairy tales.

00:34:43.000 If you look at like a lot of the old Disney films, for example, like Snow White is so dark.

00:34:47.000 I was watching that with my kids and I, you know, I figured anything before, you know, 1970 maybe is going to be okay.

00:34:53.000 So I started watching this and I was like, I couldn't believe how dark these things were. 0.96

00:34:57.000 Like that the witches are scary.

00:34:59.000 You know, the stakes are real.

00:35:01.000 It's not just kind of fluffy, feel-good stuff.

00:35:04.000 And there is kind of a repeat theme in a lot of this.

00:35:07.000 Like, if you go to even the Cinderella, Cinderella is really dark, man.

00:35:10.000 The stepmom is extraordinarily scary and really pretty vicious.

00:35:16.000 So anyways, I would just say there was a way that we did fairy tales, dark things back in the day that actually probably helped young people's minds understand that there is good and evil.

00:35:27.000 There is darkness and light.

00:35:29.000 There are truly wretched figures and creatures and things.

00:35:32.000 And you need to fight them and you need to win.

00:35:35.000 You ultimately need to win.

00:35:37.000 And so, but, you know, on another, much more lighter note, you know, I trick-or-treat with my kids because they like dressing up like princesses and ninjas and getting candy.

00:35:46.000 I mean, for me, it's that simple.

00:35:47.000 But we do, we go in big groups, lots of friends, lots of other kids dressed up in fun, lighthearted costumes, and then we kind of get them out of there before things get really weird.

00:35:56.000 We would be going astray if we did not open the way for the opinion of our co-host who is out tonight.

00:36:03.000 Let's play, let's clip play clip 295 for Charlie's view on Halloween.

00:36:08.000 Halloween is coming up, which is All Saints Day, but let's just be honest.

00:36:12.000 Halloween is a dark, dark day.

00:36:14.000 Not a fan of it.

00:36:16.000 It's what you do with it.

00:36:17.000 Not a fan of all the kind of dressing up and all that nonsense.

00:36:21.000 I don't like it.

00:36:22.000 And if you are a Christian, you must be, and by the way, if you're also a Jew, because this is an Old Testament law, you must not engage in any of these practices of the occult.

00:36:34.000 I find that there is far too much kind of joking around and playing loose and fast with this stuff.

00:36:41.000 There is legit darkness that can be channeled and put in.

00:36:48.000 And by the way, this again, this is an Old Testament law.

00:36:49.000 So this goes for both Jews and Christians.

00:36:52.000 When you enter the land of God, do not learn to imitate the detestable ways of the nations there, okay? 0.98

00:37:00.000 Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. 1.00

00:37:03.000 100%.

00:37:04.000 I think I probably texted him in the middle of that going like, oh, come on, Charlie, what about my kids dressing up like princesses and ninjas?

00:37:12.000 And he was, he said, no.

00:37:14.000 Like, I can pretty much guarantee that was about the same thing.

00:37:16.000 Yeah, Charlie was a well-known Halloween hater.

00:37:20.000 You can find all sorts of tweets from Charlie that are still up, hating on Halloween, hating on the practices.

00:37:27.000 I think even beyond the biblical, I think he just hated it in general and pretty much everything about it.

00:37:32.000 And, you know, they call it a thought crime.

00:37:34.000 But no, I disagree with Charlie.

00:37:36.000 I could disagree completely on the history.

00:37:38.000 And what I agree with on hating it, but what I agree with is that there are some people who do use, unfortunately, the Christian holiday of Halloween, all Hallows Eve, to celebrate the occult, to take part in occult practices, which I completely, 0.95

00:37:54.000 as anyone knows who's followed me for like, I don't know, five seconds, they'll know that like, you know, I'm very, very anti-occult, like to the point where like if you come visit our home, you know, we've got, we've got holy water all over the place.

00:38:10.000 We've got icons up, we've got statuettes, we've got the trifolds, we've got crucifixes.

00:38:18.000 You know, we've got crucifixes, by the way, not just in the family room, but in every single one of the bedrooms.

00:38:23.000 So we're very, very extremely anti-occult in the post-Ho household.

00:38:29.000 But, and, you know, just because the occult uses a Christian holiday to try to pervert that Christian holiday and invert the Christian holiday to occlude, right, the truth of the holiday, which, of course, has always been meant to celebrate the martyrs and as a remembrance of mortality, as a remembrance of the dead, as a remembrance of evil to mock evil, then you are.

00:38:54.000 So there's a right way and a wrong way to do Halloween.

00:38:56.000 That's basically what I'm saying.

00:38:57.000 I think there's a right way and a wrong way.

00:38:59.000 We've got a few takes from people.

00:39:01.000 I want to highlight Thomas Glosser, who emailed us at Freedom at Charlie Kirk.

00:39:05.000 He said, year-round standard time, yes, it's our natural body clock.

00:39:10.000 We should respect that.

00:39:11.000 Mischief night, no, not a thing where I grew up in northern Indiana.

00:39:15.000 And then he said, trunk or treat? 0.99

00:39:18.000 Gay. 0.98

00:39:19.000 I've never even heard of it. 0.97

00:39:19.000 It is. 0.97

00:39:22.000 Never heard of it before.

00:39:23.000 Whatever Danny says, I take as gospel.

00:39:27.000 Wait, Andrew, do you ever do drunk or treats with your kids?

00:39:31.000 No.

00:39:31.000 I don't even know what that is.

00:39:32.000 Thank you.

00:39:33.000 Wow.

00:39:34.000 Okay.

00:39:34.000 All right.

00:39:35.000 But you got to understand, I'm like from this half of the country and you're from that.

00:39:39.000 And it's like we are legit.

00:39:41.000 No, this is the Mississippi is like two different things.

00:39:45.000 Yeah.

00:39:46.000 I feel like it's kind of becoming a national thing.

00:39:48.000 We got another dono from, let me make sure I remember his name correctly.

00:39:54.000 We got it from Cade.

00:39:56.000 Cade sent us another one, $5.

00:39:58.000 Thank you, Cade, again.

00:39:59.000 He says, okay, last super chat.

00:40:01.000 You guys, your guys' takes are spot on.

00:40:03.000 I couldn't agree more.

00:40:04.000 Thank you again, Cade.

00:40:05.000 I do love being correct.

00:40:07.000 We got an email from Charmin.

00:40:08.000 It says, keep God's time year-round, standard time. 0.99

00:40:11.000 Side note, there needs to be a Blake Neff costume with the Macy's blazer. 0.55

00:40:15.000 Ooh, I am probably Nacy's most prominent advertisement at this point.

00:40:21.000 It's like Frendy Blazer.

00:40:23.000 Who like wears Macy's stuff and actually admits to it?

00:40:26.000 Yeah.

00:40:27.000 Exactly.

00:40:29.000 Stephen A. Steven Smith, right?

00:40:31.000 Why is it echoed?

00:40:32.000 I don't understand that.

00:40:34.000 I thought that was me.

00:40:36.000 Mischief Night.

00:40:37.000 This is the time when Blake was gone.

00:40:38.000 This is from Cookie Monster or something.

00:40:41.000 Hi, guys.

00:40:41.000 Loving Thought Crime.

00:40:42.000 My mom, who grew up outside Philly, Lansdown, told us about Mischief Night.

00:40:47.000 Told us about Mischief Night.

00:40:48.000 Growing up in Tioga County, middle of nowhere, we did not have Mischief Night.

00:40:52.000 We trick-or-treated through the whole town.

00:40:54.000 Daylight savings time is good.

00:40:56.000 Okay, so she's hitting both.

00:40:57.000 But falling back to standard time is good, too.

00:41:00.000 I do not want to drive to and from work in the dark.

00:41:03.000 I need some sunshine during my day.

00:41:04.000 There are no windows in the vault in which I work.

00:41:07.000 People need sunshine.

00:41:08.000 So the question is, when do they get most of the sunshine?

00:41:11.000 That's the question.

00:41:12.000 Well, and this is why we have the daylight savings regime that we do now, where it's four months, the four winter months are the natural time, and the rest of the rest of the year is daylight savings.

00:41:25.000 Here's what I'm going to miss.

00:41:26.000 This argument comes up every time we run it up.

00:41:28.000 Well, we tried to get rid of it, right?

00:41:29.000 In the 70s and 70s.

00:41:31.000 And then we reverted back to what we have.

00:41:32.000 So here's what I would miss, Jack.

00:41:35.000 You and God's time.

00:41:36.000 I know we're bouncing back and forth here, but these are the emails.

00:41:40.000 What I would miss is those late summer nights out on the back patio with my wife and my kids running around the yard, and it's just so beautiful.

00:41:48.000 It really is.

00:41:49.000 It's amazing.

00:41:50.000 So I would miss that.

00:41:52.000 And it's like it gets darker earlier.

00:41:54.000 It bums me out.

00:41:55.000 You know what I mean?

00:41:55.000 Yeah, Arizona gets dark at 7.30.

00:41:57.000 It's great.

00:41:58.000 I love it.

00:41:58.000 now it's terrible what if okay the one thing is everyone agrees that stinks when we lose the hour So why not?

00:42:04.000 Okay, so what if we compromise and we say daylight savings only during the summer?

00:42:09.000 You mean like make that the four months?

00:42:11.000 Three months.

00:42:12.000 Because now we have like the four months.

00:42:15.000 No, Memorial Day to Labor Day.

00:42:17.000 No, but it's right now it's four months of standard time, right?

00:42:21.000 So you're basically saying, if we're going to go back and forth, let's go four months of daylight savings time.

00:42:27.000 What if I have an idea?

00:42:28.000 In the summer.

00:42:29.000 I'm not up to it.

00:42:30.000 People hate losing the hour in the spring, but they're okay with gaining the extra hour of sleep mostly in the fall.

00:42:37.000 I hate most of the time.

00:42:39.000 You hate having less daylight, but people generally like losing.

00:42:42.000 They like losing the fall back for the sleep.

00:42:45.000 So what if we only twice a year, we just kept falling back.

00:42:49.000 We fell back like two hours a year.

00:42:52.000 And we just did it.

00:42:53.000 And we just had a kind of permanent cycle.

00:42:56.000 You know what's crazy?

00:42:57.000 You might know the actual year.

00:42:58.000 That's just the sink of time and the sun.

00:43:02.000 So by the way, so there was, I'm going to get all my terms mixed up here, but there was essentially a calendar that they had where we kept losing years over like the millennia, right?

00:43:14.000 Was it the Roman calendar?

00:43:15.000 The Julian calendar.

00:43:16.000 So yeah, there's a Julian calendar.

00:43:17.000 And then all of a sudden in like 1509 or something, whatever this exact year was, we just skipped a bunch of years to kind of like catch the calendar.

00:43:26.000 Six days because it was the Julian calendar.

00:43:28.000 That's just right.

00:43:29.000 It used to be the Roman calendar used to get so bad every few years they would just have to add a bonus like month.

00:43:35.000 Into things to fix it.

00:43:36.000 And then Julius Caesar figured it out, and he got what was almost our modern calendar.

00:43:41.000 Almost.

00:43:41.000 But it drifted by about one day every four years.

00:43:45.000 No, every about like, they had the leap year.

00:43:46.000 They added that.

00:43:47.000 They added the leap year.

00:43:48.000 It still drifted about a day every like 100 or 150 years or so.

00:43:54.000 And then when they got the Gregorian calendar named after a Pope, a Catholic Pope, they fixed it.

00:43:59.000 They figured out they were losing an extra like a quarter of a day, a little bit of a day each year.

00:44:05.000 I can't remember.

00:44:05.000 And then in the 1500s, they adapted to it, and you had to jump ahead about two weeks to fix things.

00:44:10.000 That's why you just skipped a bunch of days, which is really wild, actually, if you think about it.

00:44:14.000 To get it back to where it should have been.

00:44:16.000 Basically, what happened was imagine like the calendar over the millennia, just like all of a sudden it was, it was like, you know, you'd expect 80-degree weather, you know, in the very end of September.

00:44:30.000 And all of a sudden, as the years went on, it got really, really cold at the end of September.

00:44:34.000 You know, it's just a weird historical fact that a lot of people don't know that they just went to the middle of the year.

00:44:37.000 It led to all sorts of wild stuff.

00:44:39.000 Like a famous incident was the Russian Empire kept the Julian calendar very late.

00:44:44.000 That's actually the October Revolution, Red October, happened in November everywhere else.

00:44:49.000 In November, still October Russian and the French, sorry, the February Revolution happens in March. 0.93

00:44:56.000 Exactly.

00:44:56.000 And similarly, this also happened during the wars against Napoleon, or I think it was one of those wars.

00:45:01.000 There's a war where Russia is like marching their army to meet with some ally of theirs, and they mess it up because they get the calendars off and they show up two weeks later than everyone was expecting them to because they didn't communicate with them.

00:45:16.000 You're basically suggesting that we should adopt this same sort of approach to our time.

00:45:20.000 Yes.

00:45:21.000 Okay, that's good.

00:45:22.000 It's going to really screw up our.

00:45:24.000 Oh, we got another.

00:45:25.000 We got a donation from Zuzu's Pedals.

00:45:27.000 These are rants.

00:45:29.000 Rumbo rants.

00:45:30.000 Okay.

00:45:31.000 The rants of rumbles.

00:45:32.000 $5 Zuzu's pedals.

00:45:33.000 The week where we lose an hour, also called Spring Ahead, has higher car accidents that week and lower productivity.

00:45:41.000 Sure, he is right.

00:45:42.000 Pick one and stick with it.

00:45:44.000 That's actually a real thing because the switches, this isn't just people die.

00:45:49.000 Every year, a few people die because there's more car crashes and there's also more like heart attacks.

00:45:55.000 Did you know that?

00:45:55.000 Yeah, I did actually.

00:45:56.000 The slight increase in stress from less sleep tips a few people over the energy of strokes or heart attacks.

00:46:03.000 I remember this because when Charlie put that tweet out and it was like Sager was like, I will fight you.

00:46:09.000 And then everybody started coming up with all these random factoids.

00:46:12.000 And I remember that factoid.

00:46:13.000 It's actually really true.

00:46:14.000 People have more heart attacks.

00:46:16.000 There's more car crashes.

00:46:17.000 There's a bunch of stuff that goes wrong because of the switching.

00:46:19.000 I think that's my whole take.

00:46:21.000 It's like, I just don't want to switch anymore.

00:46:23.000 I hate losing the sleep in the spring.

00:46:25.000 I hate losing the sunlight in the fall.

00:46:27.000 I hate all the people who are saying that they oppose Halloween because of the demons and all of that.

00:46:34.000 I hope they also agree that I hope they also oppose daylight savings time because they do not want to be in rebellion against God.

00:46:41.000 God's time.

00:46:42.000 God's getting time.

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00:48:01.000 And I've been saving this, right?

00:48:02.000 So a lot of people love to do this pop history, you know, Facebook meme thing to say, well, actually, you know, according to Facebook and Reddit, Halloween originates from a pagan holiday that took place in Ireland and Scotland a long, long time ago.

00:48:23.000 And the Christians came and overtook that holiday and incorporated a lot of things from it. 0.97

00:48:28.000 So it's actually a pagan holiday when it started.

00:48:31.000 That's why you shouldn't go with it.

00:48:35.000 Yeah, this is actually a lot of really bad history that came up from the 19th century.

00:48:39.000 It's not even a historic view whatsoever.

00:48:43.000 Halloween goes back, and the date of Halloween fixed back, by the way, to another Gregory, another Pope Gregory, all the way back, believe it or not, 1300 years ago, 735 AD.

00:48:55.000 That's how old Halloween and how long Halloween has been Christian, because it was all about celebrating the martyrs. 1.00

00:49:03.000 Because in the early church, every time someone was killed for the faith, when someone became a martyr, that they would get a feast day.

00:49:11.000 And typically it would be fixed to the date of their martyrdom.

00:49:14.000 And unfortunately, the issue was in the days of the early church, there were so many martyrs that the days of the entire calendar would be just every single day would be a feast day.

00:49:24.000 That's how horrific it was and how persecuted Christians are.

00:49:27.000 You know, were and obviously are still being more and more persecuted.

00:49:30.000 Nigeria.

00:49:31.000 And so what they did, what they did is they came in and said, all right, well, we're going to have one day, one day for all of the martyrs.

00:49:39.000 And all the martyrs, of course, were saints.

00:49:41.000 So that'll be All Saints Day.

00:49:43.000 And All Saints Day was fixed to be November 1st by Pope Gregory III in 735 AD.

00:49:50.000 And so when people try to link this history of Samhain and Ireland, it's really interesting because, Blake, you know, can I get a double check?

00:50:00.000 Because Mr., you know, Mr. Roman Empire, was there much connective tissue between like Ireland and Rome in 735 AD?

00:50:10.000 You know, I can't think of much because Rome had like fallen.

00:50:15.000 And what was I missed the earpiece went out for a second?

00:50:20.000 What was the question, Jack?

00:50:21.000 Is there much connection?

00:50:22.000 So people claim that people claim that that date was chosen because of this Irish festival that took place on November 1st, but it's like, like, there was no communication between Ireland and Rome in 735 AD.

00:50:36.000 Not quite.

00:50:37.000 There was a bit because Saint Patrick, a great Christian saint, had Christianized Ireland, and Ireland was the place to go to learn Latin in the Dark Ages.

00:50:48.000 People don't appreciate, though, that hold on.

00:50:50.000 All those Dark Ages, like priests and bishops, they would make pilgrimages back to Rome.

00:50:56.000 It was very common.

00:50:57.000 A lot of kings would be.

00:50:59.000 What I'm saying is there's no actual evidence whatsoever that it was chosen because of an Irish festival.

00:51:06.000 There's no scholarly writing about this.

00:51:10.000 There isn't even any evidence that this was a pagan festival.

00:51:14.000 Well, there might not be any writing on it.

00:51:16.000 There might not be any writing on it, but Blake would know this better than I. But there was actually a massive schism between It was, I think it was like the Irish and the Picks and things like this that kept Easter on a certain day versus.

00:51:34.000 Oh, that's way too weird.

00:51:36.000 No, but I mean, I'm just saying, like, these used to cause like massive schisms within the Christian community about which date you get you.

00:51:44.000 Yeah, I don't know the specifics on that.

00:51:46.000 I don't know if the loyal thought cram audience wants to hear about the pomputus.

00:51:51.000 Let's talk about Gabby.

00:51:52.000 All right, we're going to do it.

00:51:53.000 But that's entirely my point.

00:51:54.000 We're going to, and the point is this.

00:51:56.000 Whenever someone, and I'm just going to keep saying this all the way through, there is no evidence whatsoever that All Hallows Eve, the date of, or the All Hallows Day, All Saints Day, was based on, derived from, or chosen because of this Irish festival.

00:52:12.000 There never was.

00:52:13.000 It was a guess that was made by a bunch of really bad comparative theologians and basically atheists and secularists in the 19th century because they were trying to use bad history to undermine church traditions.

00:52:26.000 All Saints Day was always known in the night before was known as a practice of souling where people would go, they would pray for the souls of the faithful departed.

00:52:34.000 They would go and knock on doors.

00:52:36.000 Cakes would be exchanged called soul cakes, which were later exchanged for treats.

00:52:42.000 There were people who would dress up in costumes called guising and mummers and mummery, which is also something that was done on Christmas.

00:52:48.000 And so all of these actual, all of these actual traditions and all these these practices actually date back to Christianity.

00:53:00.000 So I'm just going to stick on this.

00:53:02.000 That's the history.

00:53:03.000 There is a right way and a wrong way.

00:53:05.000 And if anyone's telling you that Halloween was originally pagan, they're just wrong.

00:53:09.000 They're just flat wrong.

00:53:10.000 And a final warning, when people go too hard on Halloween, if they get rid of Halloween, just remember, the Puritans got rid of Christmas too. 0.79

00:53:20.000 Exactly.

00:53:20.000 And Christmas will be nice.

00:53:21.000 They did.

00:53:21.000 Well, that'll be a topic for when we get to Christmas.

00:53:24.000 I think Jack just Halloween, he uses the one time a year where you can just beat on people from hiding in a tree.

00:53:31.000 So that's why I think Jack likes Halloween.

00:53:33.000 All right, we need to indulge Andrew here.

00:53:35.000 We've got to get to the Gavin topic.

00:53:37.000 I let him for the rest of the day.

00:53:39.000 So here's why he's gathering really hard.

00:53:41.000 We've got to set him up.

00:53:42.000 So you were in the room.

00:53:44.000 We were in the room.

00:53:44.000 So were you.

00:53:45.000 When this clip happened.

00:53:47.000 And so let us play clip 102.

00:53:51.000 So like you right now should come out and be like, you know what?

00:53:54.000 The young man who's about to win the state championship in the long jump in female sports, that shouldn't happen.

00:54:00.000 You as the governor should step out and say no.

00:54:02.000 No, and I appreciate.

00:54:04.000 But like, would you do something like that?

00:54:05.000 Would you say no men in female sports? 0.99

00:54:07.000 Well, I think it's an issue of fairness.

00:54:08.000 I completely agree with you on that.

00:54:10.000 So that's easy to call out the unfairness of that.

00:54:12.000 There's also humility and grace, you know, that these poor people are more likely to commit suicide, have anxiety and depression.

00:54:19.000 And the way that people talk down to vulnerable communities is an issue that I have a hard time with as well.

00:54:26.000 So both things I can hold in my hand.

00:54:28.000 How can we address this issue with the kind of decency that I think is inherent in you, but not always expressed?

00:54:37.000 So he did that.

00:54:39.000 And then he suddenly, he's so that caused quite a backlash.

00:54:44.000 That was a huge people.

00:54:46.000 Yeah, they flipped out about it.

00:54:47.000 They flipped out about it.

00:54:49.000 But now there was a lot of pressure on him to back off.

00:54:54.000 But now it seems like he is doubling down.

00:54:57.000 Correct?

00:54:57.000 Okay.

00:54:58.000 So let's play.

00:54:59.000 Actually, I haven't seen this yet.

00:55:00.000 Let's play Clip 298. 0.69

00:55:01.000 I saw it.

00:55:02.000 But when it comes to sports, that's impacting other people's rights.

00:55:06.000 It's different.

00:55:07.000 And I say this with a trans godson. 0.62

00:55:09.000 I have only one godson who's trans.

00:55:12.000 And so I disagree with all the vitriol, but I agree on the issue of fairness in that respect, that it is unfair in these circumstances.

00:55:23.000 And I haven't been able to reconcile it.

00:55:24.000 Good people can, but it was an experience for me born over the actual application and responsibility as governor to try to figure this out.

00:55:33.000 And I couldn't, and maybe other people can, but I haven't been able to figure it out.

00:55:37.000 Okay.

00:55:38.000 So, okay, here's what's actually happening with this clip.

00:55:43.000 Gavin Newsom wants to be president.

00:55:45.000 We all know that. 0.98

00:55:46.000 How's he going to differentiate himself in this crowded field full of a bunch of crazy people, right?

00:55:52.000 You got AOC, you got JB Pritzker, whose own sister, or brother?

00:55:57.000 It's a brother, actually, right?

00:55:59.000 Who knows?

00:56:00.000 I forget which way they're going.

00:56:01.000 He's got a brother or sister that is trans, okay?

00:56:05.000 You've got, you know, people are talking about Wes Moore.

00:56:08.000 You got to stand out from the crowd somehow.

00:56:08.000 You got all this people.

00:56:11.000 Gavin Newsom made the quick calculation, said, I already was on the record doing this.

00:56:15.000 I already ripped the band-aid.

00:56:16.000 It's an 80-20 issue.

00:56:18.000 It makes sense that it, because what would look worse than sticking to his guns here?

00:56:23.000 What would look worse is going back and being like, ah, you know, that thing I did with Charlie Kirk?

00:56:27.000 Because I don't really believe it anymore.

00:56:29.000 So he made the quick decision and said, I'm going to stick on the winning side of an issue that's unpopular with my activist base, but I'm going to be far left on just about everything else.

00:56:39.000 But this one, I'm going to speak some sense.

00:56:41.000 And because he's doing this to stand out.

00:56:43.000 I mean, it's very, very, very, very simple.

00:56:45.000 And we were in the room when this happened.

00:56:47.000 I looked at his political team and I was like, you do realize what just happened.

00:56:51.000 You do realize what just happened.

00:56:53.000 He realized what was going to happen weeks before.

00:56:55.000 I know, right?

00:56:56.000 No, but here's what I will say.

00:56:58.000 I don't think they realized the extent.

00:56:59.000 That remained one of the top news stories in the country for approximately six weeks.

00:57:05.000 Yeah.

00:57:06.000 It was, I mean, in today's news cycle, that moment like lived in eternity.

00:57:13.000 I had friends from at Ohio State texting, calling me about it even.

00:57:18.000 It was a big thing.

00:57:18.000 It was the number one thing.

00:57:19.000 Yeah.

00:57:19.000 Now, the funny thing is, is this the reason he has to double back?

00:57:23.000 He's doubling down on this, so he has to reverse on the other thing he said.

00:57:29.000 Yes, this is in that interview.

00:57:30.000 This also happened.

00:57:32.000 This upset me so much.

00:57:33.000 I meant to him, tweet at him, and tag him, and I just kind of got busy today because it's been crazy.

00:57:39.000 But so we were in the room, and Gavin not only said this during the interview, he said it after.

00:57:49.000 He said it before.

00:57:50.000 I'm not kidding. 1.00

00:57:51.000 This is the biggest pile of garbage I've ever seen. 0.99

00:57:55.000 So this is, let's play the clip. 0.99

00:57:57.000 207.

00:57:58.000 This is from the podcast where Charlie sat down with Gavin Newsom, and he brags, ah, my son's a big fan.

00:58:03.000 207.

00:58:04.000 Last night, trying to put my son to bed, he's like, no, dad, I just, what time?

00:58:09.000 What time is Charlie going to be here?

00:58:10.000 What time?

00:58:11.000 And I'm like, dude, you're in school tomorrow.

00:58:12.000 He's 13.

00:58:13.000 He's like, no, no, this morning wakes up.

00:58:15.000 It's 6 up.

00:58:16.000 Then he's like, I'm coming.

00:58:17.000 I'm like, he literally would not leave the house.

00:58:20.000 Did you let him take off school?

00:58:21.000 No, he didn't.

00:58:22.000 Of course not.

00:58:22.000 He's not here for a good reason.

00:58:23.000 But the point is, they canceled school for like two years.

00:58:25.000 Once one guy looks at the wall. 0.99

00:58:27.000 The point is the point, which is you are making a damn dead end. 0.98

00:58:31.000 Thank you. 0.99

00:58:32.000 I'm kidding.

00:58:33.000 And he just couldn't stick with that.

00:58:35.000 Now, here's what I'll say.

00:58:37.000 Gavin admitting that probably caused a lot of backlash.

00:58:40.000 Maybe even for his son, and he was trying to kind of backtrack or whatever. 0.90

00:58:43.000 I'm telling you, it's garbage because he said it multiple times at multiple instances when we were in the room. 0.71

00:58:50.000 206. 0.99

00:58:51.000 That's your son, obviously a fan of Charlie Kirk.

00:58:55.000 What was the conversation like between you and your son after Charlie Kirk was assassinated?

00:59:00.000 Well, he called me.

00:59:00.000 I don't know how he got a phone, but he called me from school that day, really alarmed, and all his friends were around the phone that wanted me to somehow express or understand what was going on.

00:59:10.000 He wanted to know if he was dead.

00:59:11.000 He wasn't a fan of him as much as he was familiar with him.

00:59:15.000 Oh, okay.

00:59:16.000 Familiar with him.

00:59:17.000 You know, this may seem like a petty thing.

00:59:19.000 I would want to skip school for people I was familiar with all the time.

00:59:22.000 I wouldn't want to wake up like an hour earlier jumping with my clothes on ready like getting to the studio.

00:59:27.000 No, this is this might seem like a little thing like a petty thing like this is just personal to me because I was close to Charlie.

00:59:33.000 No, this guy wants to be president and he's willing to just kind of like slimy, slippery out of like a very basic, not a controversial truth.

00:59:44.000 He'd already like told the world Charlie was that his son was a big fan of Charlie and he's willing to just kind of do one of his little slippery lizard, you know, moves out of this, like he's rubbing himself with Vaseline just to get out of a headlock.

00:59:59.000 And I'm telling you, this is like the worst part about Gavin Newsom is that the guy lies with no shame.

01:00:07.000 There is no shame and he doesn't he thinks he's going to get away with it. 0.99

01:00:10.000 That is a serial liar. 0.99

01:00:12.000 You can see it right there. 0.97

01:00:13.000 Charlie always said he could pass a lie detector test.

01:00:16.000 No problem.

01:00:16.000 No, no, absolutely.

01:00:18.000 It's a serial liar who would do that.

01:00:19.000 And it's also somebody that, you know, cheated on his wife.

01:00:22.000 It's somebody that has learned how to lie with basic ease.

01:00:26.000 And that is a scary, scary thing at the prospect that this guy could run to be the most powerful man in the world.

01:00:33.000 It's a very scary thing.

01:00:35.000 And I don't want people to miss it because I'm here to tell you, Blake's here to tell you, it wasn't once.

01:00:40.000 It wasn't just that clip.

01:00:41.000 It was multiple times.

01:00:43.000 So I don't know if he was just trying to butter us up, but I don't know what his motivation would have been after the fact.

01:00:47.000 Well, and if his son is just familiar with him, then why is he calling him wondering if there's insider details that his dad can provide and stuff with all of his friends?

01:00:55.000 Like clearly he was a fan and liked him or else why would he be caring to find a phone and call?

01:01:01.000 We'd heard Charlie new Charlie heard rumors.

01:01:03.000 And Jack, sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off.

01:01:05.000 I jumped on top of you.

01:01:06.000 One last thing I'll throw at you.

01:01:08.000 Charlie told me for, I don't know, I knew about the fact that Gavin Newsome's son was a fan of Charlie for about a year before this interview.

01:01:16.000 We had heard rumors and heard that this was actually a thing.

01:01:19.000 And so when we got there and he actually admitted it on camera, like, this is kind of cool.

01:01:23.000 Anyway, sorry, Jack, go ahead.

01:01:25.000 No, I was just going to say, look, you know, there's a real interesting way to look at this. 0.95

01:01:30.000 Sure, Gavin Newsom's a liar. 0.91

01:01:31.000 We understand that. 0.85

01:01:32.000 And I don't think that's going to come as a surprise to anyone who's been following, certainly since the COVID situation.

01:01:38.000 But I think the real interesting argument to look at here is why is Gavin Newsom choosing this lie at this time?

01:01:45.000 And why do something where he knows that he's verifiably on camera having said that to Charlie?

01:01:52.000 And I think it's pretty clear.

01:01:54.000 I think that Gavin has been looking across the political landscape and understands that if he wants to win in a Democrat primary, which is what he wants to do in the next couple of years, to become the frontrunner for the Democrat candidacy, if you look at what he's done with his Twitter account,

01:02:10.000 the Newsom Press Office account, where he's gone as completely vile as anything you can find out there, he realizes that there is this new propensity for accepting, allowing, or demanding smears and lies about our good friend Charlie Kirk,

01:02:28.000 and suddenly realizes that if he said something public, publicly positive about Charlie, his sit-down interview, that's not going to play well with the Democrat base because this is the same Democrat base that is still there for Jay Jones in Virginia.

01:02:43.000 These are the same people that have been lying about Charlie, the people who are, by the way, tomorrow, and we haven't said this yet, but you sincerely talk about Halloween.

01:02:50.000 We know already that we've seen leftists after leftists dress up in this sort of grim, disgusting mockery of Charlie's murder.

01:02:59.000 They're going to continue to do this.

01:03:00.000 And I'm going to say it right now.

01:03:02.000 Please screenshot them and we're going to make them all famous.

01:03:06.000 We're going to absolutely make them all famous.

01:03:09.000 And send it my way.

01:03:10.000 I'm happy to do so.

01:03:11.000 Libs at TikTok is happy to do so.

01:03:13.000 But Gavin realizes that his party is in a different place than he thought they were when he sat down with Charlie.

01:03:19.000 So what's he doing?

01:03:20.000 He realizes that he's got to be in that place as well to attack Charlie, to smear Charlie, and show that he has no interest whatsoever in uniting with people on the right when he himself actually sat down and launched his podcast with Charlie just a couple of weeks ago.

01:03:36.000 Yeah, I mean, it's, I totally agree.

01:03:39.000 It is that it is sort of the divide between the new left and the old left.

01:03:42.000 And the question is: can the old left, you know, like Gavin, beat the new left, like Mom Donnie and AOC?

01:03:52.000 Can that can't, so Gavin is making a calculated effort to be sort of like, I'm going to be sensible on this one issue, but he's going to pivot hard on other issues, right?

01:04:02.000 And you see that with his sitting in front of the camera, I'm so upset about what ICE is doing and the tyrant Donald Trump and all this stuff.

01:04:09.000 And he talks his big game, but I guarantee the next time he sees President Trump, it's going to be Bro Hang, boys club, and it's going to be, you know, he's going to, he's going to try and his charm offensive again.

01:04:22.000 So it's, it's, he's just so annoying.

01:04:24.000 And actually, I've heard some people throw out the idea of a Gavin Newsome AOC ticket, which I think is obscene.

01:04:33.000 I don't think it's going to happen.

01:04:34.000 But, you know, the point is, I think what Gavin is going to sadly find out is that if you try and take a sensible position in this new left, in this new Democrat Party, you're going to get eaten alive.

01:04:46.000 I mean, this is like the Jennifer Welch clip.

01:04:48.000 We should actually play this.

01:04:49.000 Studio, I think it's 283, if memory serves.

01:04:52.000 But this, Jennifer Welch is like the aged Karen of the Democrat Party. 0.67

01:04:59.000 Like, right?

01:05:00.000 She's a Bravo star.

01:05:02.000 She or was former Bravo star.

01:05:04.000 And you're going to watch basic cable?

01:05:06.000 No, I don't know.

01:05:07.000 I had to learn this actually this morning because I got asked about it.

01:05:10.000 But she's like a former Bravo star.

01:05:13.000 She is a very profane woman. 1.00

01:05:17.000 She's a mocker. 1.00

01:05:18.000 She is an accuser. 1.00

01:05:20.000 She is bitter.

01:05:23.000 She has no feminine, genteel grace about her.

01:05:27.000 She's just like a, like literally incessantly drunk or high is what I would presume. 1.00

01:05:32.000 I don't know, but I know, no.

01:05:34.000 I don't know, no, but I know.

01:05:37.000 Play it.

01:05:38.000 So listen up, Democratic establishment.

01:05:41.000 You can either jump on board with this or we're coming after you in the same way that we come after MAGA.

01:05:47.000 Period.

01:05:48.000 They're that are beholden to the same corporations that Donald Trump, that helped Donald Trump get elected.

01:05:55.000 Kudos to Bernie, to AOC, to Zoron.

01:05:59.000 And that woman out in somewhere middle America saying, Charlie Kirk, he was a racist. 0.99

01:06:05.000 He was a piece of. 0.94

01:06:07.000 There are so many more of us than there are of them.

01:06:10.000 And these Democrats that continue to play patty cake with corporations. 0.61

01:06:15.000 Nobody wants that.

01:06:16.000 Nobody wants you. 1.00

01:06:19.000 What a disgusting woman, by the way. 1.00

01:06:21.000 I was like really polite this morning when I was asked about it on another interview. 0.98

01:06:26.000 I find that to be a really, really scary sort of harbinger of things to come because there's no doubt she's right.

01:06:35.000 She's right.

01:06:36.000 This is the scary part.

01:06:37.000 Even Gavin, as much as I find his slipperiness to be detestable, you could kind of work with Gavin.

01:06:44.000 If Gavin was in, for example, if Gavin Newsom was the governor of Arizona, he'd be center right because he'd play the political winds of the team. 0.95

01:06:52.000 He truly is like, it disturbs me how successful he is because he's just very obviously a sociopathic lizard.

01:06:59.000 And it always upsets me when pure sociopathic lizards succeed, especially when it's because people are like, they're so genuine.

01:07:06.000 No, I don't think he's genuine.

01:07:08.000 I think he's the opposite of genuine.

01:07:09.000 What I'm saying is, though, he's like sort of a reasonable, waspy white man. 0.64

01:07:13.000 And the party is going away from whatever brand of like Democrat that is.

01:07:19.000 And where, you know, I was around him.

01:07:22.000 Like, you could shake his hand, he'd be nice to you, and he'd laugh with you, pat you on the back.

01:07:27.000 He didn't care if you were conservative.

01:07:28.000 He's just going to kind of get along with you.

01:07:30.000 That is not the new left. 0.97

01:07:31.000 That is not the new Democratic Party, which thinks we're all Nazis and fascists and wants to shoot us.

01:07:37.000 And Jennifer Welch is calling out anybody that's not getting completely radicalized.

01:07:42.000 And she's basically saying, listen, here's the new litmus test. 0.92

01:07:46.000 If you don't call Charlie a vile, racist, and bigot fascist that probably had it coming, then you don't deserve to be here. 0.98

01:07:53.000 And we're going to take you out too. 0.97

01:07:55.000 So that is the new energy of the left.

01:07:57.000 And so long as these are the drumbeats of the Democrat Party, this country is in a world of hurt.

01:08:03.000 And I fear that she is right, that that's where they're going.

01:08:06.000 Well, we saw the Atlantic article today from the Trump admin officials that now have to live in like special houses that are protected.

01:08:14.000 In the military base, because people are trying to kill them.

01:08:18.000 Yeah, especially Stephen Miller.

01:08:19.000 And you could probably speak to this, Jack, because you're over in that part of the world.

01:08:26.000 But I mean, Stephen Miller has had active death threats.

01:08:29.000 He's had his houses have been doxxed.

01:08:31.000 Him and Katie have had to move out and move to different homes before, but it sounds like now they've just thrown up their hands.

01:08:38.000 They're living on a military base.

01:08:40.000 Yeah, no, I knew about this for a little while.

01:08:43.000 I've just, obviously, you know, I know the Millers, and, you know, so I heard about this when it happened.

01:08:47.000 Obviously, I didn't want to say anything publicly just for their own safety, the safety of their children, but it's horrific.

01:08:53.000 And if you read in the article, it even walks through how not only were they going after their house, people have to realize they were stalking the Millers.

01:09:02.000 They were going by and like they had a car that would sit outside of their house day and night.

01:09:08.000 They were following the family.

01:09:10.000 They were following the children.

01:09:13.000 This was, and by the way, this is a coordinated Antifa cell that exists in Northern Virginia that was promoting and celebrating this doxing, this harassment, and they couldn't get police to really do anything about it.

01:09:27.000 They had so much trouble getting federal law enforcement to do anything about it.

01:09:30.000 And eventually, they realized for their safety and, of course, the safety of their children, they had to move on to a federal military base.

01:09:36.000 By the way, the same thing happened to Josh Hawley a couple of years ago.

01:09:40.000 Brett Kavanaugh had someone outside their house who was about to kill him before 911 was called, a guy with a nine millimeter and a couple of zip ties.

01:09:48.000 And obviously, we all saw what happened to Charlie just a couple of weeks ago.

01:09:52.000 The situation is very, very bad if you live in blue areas.

01:09:56.000 It's just as simple as that.

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01:11:09.000 Well, this is what upsets me.

01:11:10.000 And Jack, you and I got really into this story.

01:11:13.000 It was this Dr. Antifa, Professor Mark Bray from Rutgers.

01:11:16.000 So you've got Antifa cells that are harassing Stephen Miller and his wife Katie and their kids.

01:11:23.000 And I think people like Stephen probably has been the recipient of more hate and more vitriol than just about anybody else on the left.

01:11:31.000 I mean, they literally call him Goebbels and they call him, I mean, they think he's a Nazi. 0.89

01:11:36.000 They think he's a white supremacist.

01:11:38.000 And, you know, it's funny because Stephen Miller's Jewish, but it doesn't stop them. 0.97

01:11:41.000 And it's really just comes down to the immigration thing, right?

01:11:44.000 Because the immigration thing is their holy grail. 1.00

01:11:46.000 They want to remake the demographics of this country.

01:11:48.000 They want to use it to dilute and destroy the white Anglo-Christian European sort of bedrock foundational cultural element of America.

01:11:58.000 And so if you're going to attack that, if you're going to actually go after the central golden calf of the modern left, which is the Browning of America, then you are going to be persona non grata. 0.90

01:12:10.000 You're going to be enemy number one.

01:12:12.000 And so poor, poor people.

01:12:13.000 I mean, but you've got the point is you've got Antifa doing the bidding.

01:12:17.000 These are the foot soldiers of the left.

01:12:20.000 These are the militant radicals that are doing this.

01:12:23.000 And you've got professors that are paid by a public university that are taking taxpayer money to train them, to write an Antifa handbook on how to take preemptive measures that completely pour contempt on debate and open dialogue and the democratic process that are getting your tax dollars.

01:12:44.000 And you've got Antifa cells that are coming after officials in the Trump administration that are getting trained by this professor to attack them violently with knives, fists, guns, heavy weaponry, if needs be.

01:12:56.000 And this guy says, oh, I'm not, I don't endorse Antifa.

01:12:58.000 Well, then why did all your money and profits from the book sales go to their legal defense fund?

01:13:04.000 Huh, Professor Bray?

01:13:06.000 Why is that?

01:13:07.000 And by the way, we should ask Rutgers University why he's not been fired yet, as a matter of fact, as well as with Lucy Martinez at Nathan Hale Elementary in Chicago.

01:13:16.000 Both of these people are vile monsters that are still employed.

01:13:19.000 And it really ticks you off when you think about it. 0.77

01:13:22.000 No, exactly right.

01:13:23.000 And by the way, the great Ava Kwan, who is the turning point, one of the chapter leaders there at Rutgers, she's been placed under investigation by Rutgers, as well as Megan Doyle, one of the other chapter leaders.

01:13:35.000 They're trying to get them kicked off.

01:13:37.000 And what she's been doing, she's been standing her ground and fighting back.

01:13:40.000 By the way, they have Alex Sein coming to Rutgers at the Turning Point chapter on, I think it's Monday.

01:13:46.000 Yeah, it's going to be on Monday.

01:13:48.000 And so we're also doing the Turning Point Action Super Sunday and Super Monday to get out the vote in New Jersey for Jack Chittarelli, where you look at the polls, it's neck and neck.

01:13:57.000 I think there was a poll, Emerson poll came out that a one-point difference in that.

01:14:01.000 That's how close this is.

01:14:02.000 And what are they doing?

01:14:04.000 We know Rutgers as a public university is going after the turning point chapter, these great student leaders who I went up with and was proud to stand with there in northern Jersey.

01:14:14.000 And she actually uncovered, by the way, going back to Dr. Antifa, Mark Bray, she uncovered speeches and interviews where he gave, where he gave, where he describes himself.

01:14:23.000 He says, I'm a member of Antifa.

01:14:25.000 I'm a member of the Black Rose Anarchist Federation.

01:14:28.000 Now, he runs around today saying, I'm not Antifa, but she's got interviews from a couple of years ago where he says he was in Antifa.

01:14:34.000 And if you remember the G20, the G20 that was held in Hamburg, I want to say it was 2017, the G20 Hamburg summit.

01:14:42.000 He talks about participating in riots that included the burning of cars and an attack on this summit that was so bad that First Lady Melania Trump wasn't even allowed to attend the summit she was originally scheduled to attend, but they couldn't bring her out because they couldn't secure it.

01:14:59.000 Again, going back to what we're talking about now with the Millers and others who have to live on military bases, this guy is talking about participating in these firebombing attacks on cars in Hamburg. 0.52

01:15:10.000 The same guy.

01:15:12.000 So this is the level of people that we have, by the way, at taxpayer-funded universities.

01:15:17.000 And because the communists over in Spain are so are so entrenched because these Antifa cells are international, he's able to go over to Spain and seamlessly integrate with the Antifa cells there because this is a federal, excuse me, an international terrorist organization.

01:15:36.000 And that's exactly what I told the president when I was at the White House.

01:15:39.000 And you can see, you can see the operations right in front of your eyes.

01:15:42.000 No, I was about to make the same point, Jack.

01:15:44.000 We should actually follow the money and follow Dr. Antifa and find out who he's hanging out with in Spain.

01:15:50.000 I mean, this is a guy who deserves to be investigated.

01:15:53.000 And it's not a free speech thing.

01:15:54.000 You have to understand.

01:15:56.000 Listen, I could quote Gavin Newsom when he's talking about trans in sports, right?

01:16:02.000 Because this person's freedom of speech is getting in the way of your freedom of speech.

01:16:07.000 When he's advocating for these tactics, that, again, their whole tactic is we don't care about your democracy.

01:16:15.000 We don't care about your free speech.

01:16:16.000 We are going to preemptively attack you.

01:16:18.000 He's coming after them.

01:16:20.000 And that is a complete betrayal of the democratic process, of the American way, which we believe we're going to battle it out with ideas, not with fists and knives and guns.

01:16:29.000 He doesn't care about that.

01:16:30.000 His tactics say you got to get ahead of it. 1.00

01:16:31.000 You got to punch a Nazi. 1.00

01:16:33.000 You got to shoot a Nazi. 1.00

01:16:34.000 We don't care about your arguments. 1.00

01:16:35.000 We don't care about your ideas.

01:16:36.000 We don't care about your humanity.

01:16:38.000 So we should follow the money.

01:16:39.000 We should follow the paper trail and find out who the heck he's hanging out with because it's only going to strengthen the case for the federal government that are trying to crack down on these Antifa cells because ultimately we've got to be able to hinge it on laws, real laws, and real precedent.

01:16:54.000 And I guess, you know, Rico's not enough.

01:16:56.000 But there's other things.

01:16:57.000 Conspiracy, there's lots of other ways you could get these people.

01:17:00.000 And I think the financially Treasury is working on this right now, Scott Besson.

01:17:04.000 So we got to keep an eye on that as well.

01:17:06.000 Base, base, base.

01:17:07.000 We got to make sure that foreign terrorist designation comes down, by the way.

01:17:10.000 It absolutely needs to get done.

01:17:11.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:17:13.000 Jack, I brought up Sagar already on this show.

01:17:19.000 And this would be a good idea.

01:17:20.000 Do we have two pieces of these?

01:17:21.000 Do we have 10 things by this?

01:17:22.000 I want to hit this.

01:17:24.000 I know it's late.

01:17:25.000 Boomer, luxury communism.

01:17:26.000 We've got to talk about boomer luxury communism.

01:17:30.000 Alright, is this...

01:17:31.000 We have to be careful.

01:17:32.000 No negative emails.

01:17:33.000 This is not all about you in this audience.

01:17:38.000 We're talking about liberal boomers.

01:17:39.000 We're talking about liberal boomers.

01:17:41.000 We'll talk about a variety of people.

01:17:42.000 So what this all was sparked by was a little debate.

01:17:45.000 I joined in it briefly, but I believe, is 305 the tweet that we're looking at here?

01:17:51.000 I think so.

01:17:52.000 Let's put that up.

01:17:53.000 Let's put that up.

01:17:55.000 So, okay, no one's going to be able to read that.

01:17:57.000 It's too big.

01:17:58.000 Anyway, so this is Sagar and Jetty tweeted.

01:18:00.000 I will read it.

01:18:01.000 And he said, in today's episode of Boomer Luxury Communism, Texas voters will vote on a new measure that will slash school taxes for boomers 65 and older by approximately 50%, in addition to further slashing property taxes for boomers alone.

01:18:18.000 So what this is all in context is, is that Texas is considering big cuts to property tax, to some of their property taxes, or they're changing what your exemptions are under property tax law, but it's going to only apply to those who are 65 and older.

01:18:34.000 Now, I'm sure a lot of people like the sound of that, but Sagar disagreed with it.

01:18:39.000 And I'll be honest, I disagreed with it.

01:18:41.000 I really dislike when we go looking for new ways to cut taxes for the oldest people in America. 1.00

01:18:50.000 And to lay this out, here's the deal.

01:18:52.000 First of all, the oldest people in America are already the most on average, the most financially well off by a large margin.

01:18:59.000 And this is historically out of the norm.

01:19:01.000 It used to be people about in middle age were the wealthiest and older people were poorer.

01:19:06.000 Now it's olds have the most money by a long shot, on average, all on average here.

01:19:12.000 And the second thing is, let's just be real.

01:19:15.000 Who do we need to be boosting, enabling to ensure America's future success and prosperity?

01:19:22.000 It is young people.

01:19:23.000 We need young people who are going to be buying homes, having more kids, frankly, paying fewer taxes if need be, so that they have more kids, especially in the middle class.

01:19:34.000 If you are older, you know, thank you for your service, but you are not.

01:19:41.000 How about this?

01:19:42.000 Could we do it in such a way that it would be means tested or something?

01:19:46.000 You know, even there, the thing that we should means test the most right now, like if every number we look at, every number in America says the people who are getting hosed right now are the youngest Americans, period.

01:19:58.000 So this is the same thing.

01:19:59.000 If you're over 65, you're already getting free health care.

01:20:03.000 You're already getting a social security pension.

01:20:06.000 You've had 40 years of incredible economic growth during which you had the opportunity to accumulate savings and investments.

01:20:15.000 And it's very common in America to look at young people who have student loans or just young people who made mistakes anyway and say like, you need to take responsibility for yourself.

01:20:24.000 Well, okay, why can't older people take responsibility for themselves? 0.98

01:20:29.000 And if you want more Mamdaniism, this is the exact way to do it because you're going to radicalize more and more young people who are just going to see that the older generation is getting bailed out while they are still in trouble and are faced with the worst situation of any generation. 0.95

01:20:44.000 So as Gen Z, a lot of friends of mine and stuff were already pretty pissed about all the housing market and all that we've talked about on the show.

01:20:54.000 And I feel like all this is going to do is start radicalizing more and more people.

01:20:58.000 Yeah, I mean, so if I'm going to play devil's advocate here, I mean, I'll confess I mostly agree with you guys.

01:21:04.000 But if I'm going to play devil's advocate, because I've spoken with a number of Texans, right? 1.00

01:21:08.000 And they have been railing against property tax in Texas for a long time because it tends, they don't have a state income tax, so their property tax is kind of how they make up the difference, right?

01:21:17.000 So you move to Texas, if you own an expensive home, it will cost you a significant amount of money.

01:21:24.000 I have real bad news for people.

01:21:26.000 Property tax is probably one of the better taxes out there.

01:21:29.000 Well, actually, I like your idea.

01:21:30.000 What did you call it?

01:21:31.000 The land tax.

01:21:33.000 The Georgism.

01:21:34.000 What is it called?

01:21:35.000 Georgism.

01:21:36.000 Georgism is actually a really fascinating idea.

01:21:38.000 I wasn't aware about it until Blake told me about it.

01:21:40.000 But by the way, so the point is, in Texas, there's quite a bit of political movement behind cutting significantly or abolishing even property tax.

01:21:49.000 I mean, there's people who want to cut it.

01:21:51.000 And I'll be honest with you.

01:21:52.000 I remember being younger and realizing there was such a thing as property tax, and it blew my mind.

01:21:57.000 I was like, wait, so you don't ever get to own the piece of land that you pay for.

01:22:02.000 You just sort of constantly have to pay the government for the right to you take care of your land.

01:22:07.000 You own it.

01:22:08.000 Well, in the end, this is a way a friend of mine phrased it recently who pointed it out.

01:22:13.000 The only reason you own it, the only reason you have the concept of ownership is that we have a government with a system of laws that protects and guarantees that ownership.

01:22:23.000 And you could think of property tax as your way of guaranteeing that system.

01:22:28.000 And I know people really dislike paying all taxes.

01:22:31.000 I dislike paying taxes.

01:22:33.000 But to the extent that we must pay for things as a public good, property taxes is one of the least distortionary ways of doing it.

01:22:42.000 And land taxes are even better.

01:22:44.000 Here's the problem.

01:22:45.000 And actually, this is somewhere, you know, California was like prop 13 or whatever.

01:22:49.000 It was helpful because when you get to a certain age, there is a point at which your ability to earn money for the vast majority of people diminishes.

01:22:59.000 And your property could still increase.

01:23:02.000 And depending on the laws of that state, the value of your property goes up and up and up.

01:23:07.000 Your property tax could go up and up and up.

01:23:09.000 And then it could outstrip your ability to then pay for it, especially if you're on fixed income.

01:23:13.000 So I understand the desire to help people on fixed income that can no longer afford their property tax.

01:23:20.000 That being said, I don't disagree with what you're saying when it comes to who's the number one group that we need to ensure that gets buy-in to the economy, buys into the American dream, buys into having skin of the game so they don't become bloody revolutionaries and bomb Donnie.

01:23:35.000 I totally get that argument, but I do have compassion on older boomers that are on fixed income and their property tax could outstrip their ability to pay for it. 0.90

01:23:44.000 You know, it's true, but again, you have to think we expect accountability in a lot of other situations.

01:23:49.000 And if you're a young person whose income goes down because you get laid off, because you make a mistake in terms of, you know, you lose a lot of money on gambling or on a counterpoint.

01:24:01.000 So, yes, they should be accountable, but the amount with which property values have increased is has massively benefited boomers. 0.97

01:24:13.000 Some.

01:24:14.000 But if you are living in, for example, I have a lot of these people in my family, actually, that just literally have lived in the same home since like the 80s, right?

01:24:22.000 And so their property values have shot up tremendously, but they've never, that's like you're taxing unrealized gains, which is something that we do not do in this country.

01:24:30.000 Essentially, that's what you could look at as a property tax that has shot up based on reassessing of property values.

01:24:35.000 It's an unrealized game because they're not liquidating that asset.

01:24:39.000 They're living in that asset.

01:24:40.000 Well, so they've gotten an asset that has massively increased in value.

01:24:44.000 They have to do a reverse mortgage, which is maybe that might be what they have to do.

01:24:48.000 Or I'll be blunt.

01:24:49.000 Historically, older people who don't have children in the home anymore have less mobility anyway, have less.

01:24:58.000 Historically, older people have downsized later in life.

01:25:02.000 You know, it's not even like, oh, we're not saying poverty.

01:25:05.000 Winston Churchill, Winston Churchill, Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, he lived in a great big house called Blenheim Palace.

01:25:13.000 And actually, wait, I can't remember the name of his home.

01:25:17.000 It wasn't Blenheim Palace.

01:25:17.000 That was the richer people in the family.

01:25:20.000 He had a big house.

01:25:21.000 And when he was aging, and when his son was aging into adulthood and having children, and Winston's kids had grown up, he built a cabin on that property and he moved into that and he gave the big house to his son.

01:25:35.000 Now, I'm not saying you have to give your home to your children, but I'm saying we have a tradition of if you're aging and you have less money, it's an entirely reasonable and normal thing to downsize your consumption.

01:25:50.000 And we are allowing consumption is like, I mean, a modest like quarter-acre lot and a single-family home, and you just like the neighborhood around you became multi-million dollar homes, and yours is still sort of like unimproved, but you're just you're happy living there, and this is like you paid for it.

01:26:08.000 You should have the right to stay there.

01:26:10.000 Well, if you could afford the property taxes five years ago and all of a sudden they shot up because you had a reassessment, then that, again, I have compassion.

01:26:19.000 I have to say it's just in the big what people are raging against is these boomers that are accumulating multiple rental houses and they're buying up all these houses on the market. 0.60

01:26:27.000 That's what people are raging against.

01:26:29.000 Those people should not be benefiting from a property tax deal.

01:26:32.000 No, but in general, boomers also account for, I'm looking at it now, 53% of all home sales, and then they also account for 42% of all homes.

01:26:41.000 A lot of boomers are buying homes.

01:26:43.000 So they're buying up homes, and that's what's creating this problem where people are getting it.

01:26:46.000 Maybe it's means tested.

01:26:47.000 I don't know.

01:26:49.000 Maybe there's like a different way to do it.

01:26:52.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:26:52.000 Jack, Jack, what do you say on the boomer question?

01:26:55.000 No, I'm largely, Blake.

01:26:56.000 I'm largely with you on this.

01:26:58.000 You know, I do think there's obviously, you know, things that should be done to, you know, try to maintain this within some sense of reason.

01:27:05.000 But I do think that it's, I think that's kind of silly for people to think that they can just live in a society and not have to pay for any upkeep of that society, community, or system whatsoever.

01:27:17.000 It's like, like, are you, you know, are you defending your home yourself 24-7?

01:27:23.000 Are you using no public services whatsoever?

01:27:26.000 I highly doubt it.

01:27:27.000 I'm just saying, I highly doubt it.

01:27:28.000 And even if you are someone who isn't, right, you know, let's say, let's say even if you are 24-7, 365, totally self-sustaining, guess what?

01:27:37.000 If something does happen, who are you going to call?

01:27:38.000 You're going to call 911.

01:27:39.000 You're going to call, you're going to, hopefully you can go to court.

01:27:42.000 You can hopefully have a system of justice to be able to backstop all of it.

01:27:46.000 And so you do, I'm sorry.

01:27:48.000 Like, I think it's this weird kind of like, you know, quasi, I don't want to grow up and eat my vegetables, you know, sort of like conservatarian thing that you just gotta, you just gotta grow up at some point.

01:27:59.000 You just have to grow up and realize that when you live in a society, that includes some kind of mutual buy-in.

01:28:07.000 It really does.

01:28:07.000 I know, I agree with you.

01:28:09.000 I mean, just to betray my previous words, my bias is towards young Americans.

01:28:13.000 Obviously, I work with Turning Point and I've been with Charlie for eight years plus.

01:28:17.000 So I mean, I'm with you.

01:28:19.000 And I'm just saying there are certain instances, kind of like when we were talking about Snap, where you're like, that actually is really hard.

01:28:26.000 It's going to be really, really hard for actual legitimate cases that are surviving subsistence living off Snap.

01:28:33.000 There's a lot of abuse to it.

01:28:35.000 And so would love to get rid of the, I would presume it's probably an 80-20 issue where it's 20% legitimate users and 80% just phony fraudsters.

01:28:44.000 And I would say it's probably something like that when it comes to who deserves to maybe have their property tax frozen or diminished in a state like Texas versus 80% of boomers that could probably afford it and really just need to take their medicine. 0.66

01:28:57.000 I'm just saying, I have some compassion.

01:28:59.000 Obviously, I want a I'm open-minded about 98% of the ideas that would make it more affordable for young people to buy homes and get a stake in the US.

01:29:07.000 Well, I see in our emails, they're already pretty upset.

01:29:09.000 But if we want to throw up 312, just real quick, that's the graph I was referencing, and that's what's going to radicalize many people.

01:29:16.000 What are we looking at?

01:29:17.000 So younger boomers and older boomers, both, if you put just that whole generation of boomers together, account for 53% of all home sales, according to the National Association of Realtors and Fortune.

01:29:29.000 And they also account for 42% of all home buying.

01:29:31.000 Buyers.

01:29:32.000 Why is it both red?

01:29:33.000 This chart is really annoying.

01:29:35.000 I don't know.

01:29:35.000 I didn't create it, but because both colors are red.

01:29:40.000 Well, so the dark red is the sellers and the light red is the buyers, right?

01:29:45.000 Yeah, I know. 1.00

01:29:45.000 It's just like, it's like, what idiot put this together? 1.00

01:29:47.000 It's really. 1.00

01:29:48.000 The National Association of Realtors.

01:29:50.000 So I will say that the older boomers and younger boomers are selling far, their sales of homes is far outstripped.

01:29:57.000 But they're also buying at 42%.

01:30:00.000 Yeah, I get that.

01:30:00.000 You know, it's interesting.

01:30:02.000 But at least their net average is that they're releasing more inventory onto the market.

01:30:08.000 I will say that.

01:30:10.000 I think it's time for us to wrap things up here, gentlemen.

01:30:14.000 I got to catch a plane.

01:30:15.000 It's been a busy day.

01:30:17.000 By the way, shout out to, just because you mentioned Snap real quick, shout out to the new account out there, EBT of TikTok.

01:30:24.000 I don't know if you guys have been following that one yet.

01:30:27.000 Actually, I realized halfway through the show that we probably should have done a segment on this because EBT, there's apparently a new genre on TikTok where people who are on EBT get to put up, we'll have to save this for next week or something, which I believe we'll all be together in person next week.

01:30:45.000 And oh, and we should also say that in a second, we'll talk about Tuesday night.

01:30:50.000 But yeah, people talk about their EBT hauls, basically what they're buying using Snap Benefits and food stamps and how much they can bilk out of the system.

01:30:58.000 And they just brag about it on TikTok.

01:31:01.000 Yep.

01:31:02.000 And by the way, Jack, if they don't get their EBT turned back on on November 1st, they're going to shoplifting National Shoplifting Day.

01:31:14.000 Look, Snapchat's shut down.

01:31:16.000 We'll have a very good idea.

01:31:17.000 I think we'll get a full episode of this.

01:31:18.000 Can I get a beep?

01:31:19.000 We'll get a full episode.

01:31:20.000 This is going to be great.

01:31:22.000 Hell yes.

01:31:23.000 That's definitely fair.

01:31:24.000 It's funny.

01:31:26.000 We're going to have National Shoplifting Day across the nation.

01:31:31.000 Oh, there he is.

01:31:33.000 I know we got it.

01:31:34.000 Charlie would be pretty good.

01:31:35.000 Guys, it's okay.

01:31:36.000 It's okay.

01:31:37.000 Andrew can say this because, as we remember, he's part Mexican.

01:31:41.000 I'm also Jewish, according to the chat, which is hilarious.

01:31:46.000 It's gone off the rails.

01:31:48.000 I know.

01:31:48.000 This is going off the rails.

01:31:49.000 Apparently, I'm Jewish, which is not true.

01:31:51.000 That's not true.

01:31:53.000 My dad saw some comment somewhere that was like, Andrew's Jewish.

01:31:56.000 He's like, I almost created an account to just tell him my son is not Jewish, but it's fine. 0.99

01:32:02.000 What are you going to do?

01:32:03.000 I was born Catholic.

01:32:05.000 I got saved in college.

01:32:06.000 I'm evangelical, I guess.

01:32:08.000 Non-denomination.

01:32:09.000 I guess.

01:32:10.000 I don't know.

01:32:11.000 I just don't like being pigeonholed as evangelical, whatever.

01:32:14.000 I'm a Christian.

01:32:14.000 That's how I look at it.

01:32:17.000 Final thoughts, Blake.

01:32:19.000 Man, final thoughts.

01:32:22.000 We need to cease our rebellion against God's time.

01:32:26.000 We must submit to the noonday sun as God ordained it.

01:32:30.000 When it is noon, the sun is directly overhead. 0.97

01:32:34.000 We're not doing this crap where it's at 2 p.m. 0.91

01:32:37.000 We're not going to do that. 0.98

01:32:39.000 Final thoughts.

01:32:39.000 Cease our rebellion.

01:32:42.000 I guess wish everybody a happy Halloween and Jack a good day of terrorizing the neighborhood around him.

01:32:48.000 And tonight, yeah, congratulations, Jack, on doing that.

01:32:52.000 My final thoughts are: what a great event at Ole Miss.

01:32:56.000 And we talked about it on the Charlie Kirk show today.

01:32:58.000 It was just like it was so phenomenal.

01:33:00.000 And I'm still buzzing from it.

01:33:01.000 And we talked about it with Jesse Waters tonight.

01:33:03.000 So that's my final thought.

01:33:04.000 Jack, you should take us home and preview Tuesday night.

01:33:09.000 Tuesday night.

01:33:11.000 For those asking, of course, we know it's going to be election night here in the United States.

01:33:17.000 And as such, the traditional election night super stream on the Charlie Kirk show, the Charlie Kirk Rumble Channel, will continue.

01:33:27.000 And we will all be in person in the Charlie Kirk studio.

01:33:33.000 Yes.

01:33:34.000 The Tuesday, the Thought Crime Crew, the Super Stream.

01:33:37.000 We are all going to be there.

01:33:38.000 We're going to be going through this directly.

01:33:41.000 We're going to go through the results.

01:33:42.000 It might be a late night.

01:33:43.000 Now we know, obviously, the three big races: New Jersey, New York, and Virginia.

01:33:48.000 Those are all East Coast time.

01:33:49.000 So hopefully not too late of a night.

01:33:52.000 But we are going to be up.

01:33:53.000 We are going to be here.

01:33:54.000 And this will be your election station come election night this Tuesday.

01:33:59.000 And of course, look, Charlie loved the election streams.

01:34:02.000 Charlie loved the live streams on election night.

01:34:05.000 That's, I mean, he built so much of this channel by doing that.

01:34:09.000 And we know that Charlie would be looking down saying, guys, you got to go live.

01:34:14.000 You got to go live.

01:34:15.000 So we're going to do it.

01:34:19.000 He loved doing the orc.

01:34:20.000 He was like the orchestra, you know, the conductor of the orchestra rather than.

01:34:24.000 The conductor, yeah.

01:34:24.000 Yeah, he was, he would just like, he had like a pace to him.

01:34:27.000 So we're going to do our best, Charlie Kirk impression that night.

01:34:31.000 We will miss him greatly, but we have to do it in his honor.

01:34:34.000 So there we have it.

01:34:35.000 All right, Jack, take us home.

01:34:36.000 I got to catch a plane.

01:34:39.000 Ladies and gentlemen, go out there and commit more thought crime. 1.00

01:34:43.000 To my surprise, he did the mesh.

01:34:46.000 He did the most to match.

01:34:48.000 The monster mesh.

01:34:49.000 It was a graveyard smash.

The Charlie Kirk Show - November 01, 2025

THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 103 — Halloween Traditions? The End of DST? Boomer Space Communism

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