The Charlie Kirk Show - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 104 — Post-Election Palette Cleanser + Tucker-Fuentes Interview Reaction

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00:01:09.000 All right.

00:01:10.000 Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Thursday Night Thought Crime.

00:01:14.000 What's up, guys?

00:01:15.000 We have the OG crew here for once.

00:01:18.000 All in studio.

00:01:19.000 All in studio.

00:01:20.000 Some undisclosed looking.

00:01:22.000 One on assignment, one on assignment, of course.

00:01:24.000 But for once, it's the whole Thought Crime crew all together.

00:01:29.000 This is great.

00:01:30.000 Blake, you were missed last week because we had a great, you know, we have a great lineup tonight.

00:01:37.000 You were here last week, and it was Tyler who's missed.

00:01:40.000 Tyler who's missed.

00:01:40.000 Oh, wait, yes, yes.

00:01:41.000 We did the Halloween debate.

00:01:42.000 It was Tyler who was missed.

00:01:43.000 Yeah.

00:01:43.000 Yes.

00:01:43.000 I can't remember what happened.

00:01:45.000 You were not here.

00:01:46.000 That was because a vampire got you.

00:01:48.000 Blake, wait a minute.

00:01:48.000 Now I'm confused.

00:01:49.000 I was here last night.

00:01:50.000 I was pro-I haven't seen Blake.

00:01:53.000 I haven't seen Blake in like a month.

00:01:55.000 Yeah.

00:01:55.000 Because he was.

00:01:56.000 Yeah, it was the two.

00:01:57.000 He was at the Vatican.

00:01:59.000 He was at the nunnery, but they kicked him out, unfortunately.

00:02:01.000 Not the Vatican.

00:02:02.000 No, he was everywhere.

00:02:03.000 Did you go to the Vatican?

00:02:04.000 Oh, yeah, he was in the tunnels.

00:02:05.000 No, I've never been to the Vatican.

00:02:06.000 He was in the Tunnels.

00:02:07.000 There's Tunnels.

00:02:08.000 It's based.

00:02:08.000 We'll go together.

00:02:09.000 Can we do it?

00:02:09.000 It's awesome.

00:02:10.000 No, Tyler.

00:02:11.000 So we had a whole thing about how apparently nobody knows what Mischief Night is if you're not from the Philadelphia area.

00:02:18.000 So have you heard of Mischief Night?

00:02:19.000 Yeah, of course.

00:02:19.000 That's an East Coast thing.

00:02:20.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:02:21.000 Thank you.

00:02:22.000 But he's apparently Devil's Night.

00:02:23.000 It's quite a heavy duty thing.

00:02:25.000 I know about it because lots of outright.

00:02:27.000 You know about it because your wife.

00:02:28.000 I know about it because my wife's from New Jersey. 0.97

00:02:29.000 There you go.

00:02:30.000 And so Mischief Night's like a thing.

00:02:30.000 Boom.

00:02:32.000 100%.

00:02:33.000 Don't we have another name for it?

00:02:35.000 You're Devil's Night.

00:02:36.000 You're Arizonan.

00:02:37.000 And you're a proud Western boy, and you have no idea what Michigan is.

00:02:42.000 In Arizona, they didn't celebrate it.

00:02:43.000 But I remember when I, because I lived in New Jersey for two years, I met my wife in junior high.

00:02:48.000 And then we moved back to Arizona, but she's from New Jersey.

00:02:48.000 Yeah.

00:02:51.000 But Mischief Night's like a big freaking deal.

00:02:54.000 You take it seriously.

00:02:55.000 It's like, it's more serious than Halloween.

00:02:58.000 100%.

00:02:59.000 And so it's crazy.

00:03:01.000 They don't make movies about Mischief Night.

00:03:03.000 Well, that's because it's local.

00:03:05.000 But what I found out after the show that no one had told me this before, that apparently my grandmom used to participate in Mischief Night.

00:03:15.000 So my aunt was telling us this story.

00:03:16.000 She was like, oh, yeah.

00:03:17.000 Like we would all go down to the cornfield and we'd get a bunch of corn and we'd shuck it and we'd get the kernels and set them up into like bags and throw them at the neighbors' houses up and down the block.

00:03:30.000 And I'm like, Nana was doing Mischief Night.

00:03:32.000 Wait, did you call her grandmom?

00:03:34.000 No, no, no.

00:03:35.000 I called her Nana.

00:03:36.000 But is that like another East Coast thing?

00:03:38.000 Grandmom?

00:03:40.000 Because we always had grandma.

00:03:41.000 I had one was grandmom and one was Nana.

00:03:43.000 I don't know.

00:03:44.000 I just saw the map for this.

00:03:45.000 This is crazy.

00:03:46.000 I wish I could drop this for you guys.

00:03:48.000 Apparently we talked about last week.

00:03:49.000 I showed that exact map last week.

00:03:51.000 Oh, you did.

00:03:51.000 Literally, it was the whole conversation.

00:03:53.000 I missed the map.

00:03:54.000 We have to go through it.

00:03:54.000 Hold on.

00:03:55.000 So we're going to get to some seriously spicy topics today, but we're going to start with EBT of TikTok.

00:04:01.000 Then we're going to get into Nicki Mondani.

00:04:04.000 No, we got to start with, we got to start with Bollywood.

00:04:06.000 Did Bollywood?

00:04:07.000 Okay.

00:04:07.000 Oh, Bollywood.

00:04:08.000 So, but we are going to talk about Tucker.

00:04:10.000 We're going to talk about Tucker because he's been in the conversation.

00:04:13.000 And everybody's asking us, well, what about Tucker?

00:04:16.000 What are your thoughts on Tucker?

00:04:17.000 And, you know, it was like, we had an election.

00:04:20.000 All right.

00:04:20.000 We're going to focus on the election.

00:04:21.000 Yep.

00:04:22.000 But we have thoughts.

00:04:23.000 And this is thought crime.

00:04:24.000 So you're going to hear him.

00:04:26.000 So then we're also going to talk about hijabs or bikini or burkini.

00:04:26.000 All right.

00:04:32.000 Burkini. 0.95

00:04:32.000 Yeah. 0.95

00:04:33.000 And we're going to talk about Mom Donnie built NYC, all this and more.

00:04:37.000 All right.

00:04:37.000 So let's get us started on the first topic.

00:04:39.000 All right.

00:04:39.000 So let's just start with the clip because so Momdani wins on Tuesday night.

00:04:46.000 And then that speech, which I know we all watched, I actually did watch it live.

00:04:51.000 But there was something at the very end of his speech that happened.

00:04:54.000 Play clip 335.

00:05:23.000 100% real.

00:05:25.000 It's apparently a song from a 2004 Bollywood movie.

00:05:29.000 There we go.

00:05:31.000 It's, Blake, I feel like this is the, the, Tyler, what could be more American than this?

00:05:40.000 Blake, I have no association with this.

00:05:43.000 I had the same amount of association with this as most of America does with Mischief Night.

00:05:47.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:05:48.000 So, but Blake, I feel like you've been making a lot of points about the third worldism of it all, right?

00:05:53.000 Like how Zoron's actual fundamental ideology is an antagonism towards the West, an antagonism towards whiteness, European-ness, whatever you want to call it.

00:06:04.000 And this song just felt like a total, I heard it and I was like, Blake's right.

00:06:08.000 Yeah, which is funny because the song is whatever.

00:06:10.000 It's like some Bollywood thing.

00:06:12.000 No, but it's very much.

00:06:14.000 It very much is that Mamdani himself does represent this, like, how to put, I can't think because it's like mind mud.

00:06:25.000 He's the literal avatar of the gimmicks.

00:06:28.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:06:29.000 It's like the Gimmigrins. 1.00

00:06:30.000 It's sort of this global ideology.

00:06:32.000 It spans ethnic groups.

00:06:34.000 It spans national origin.

00:06:36.000 To some extent, it even spans like a lot of different sub-political ideologies.

00:06:40.000 It kind of, it really is like a line.

00:06:42.000 Globalized Tifada.

00:06:43.000 So you've been talking about that.

00:06:45.000 We've been talking about it pretty much the entire campaign.

00:06:48.000 And Charlie obviously talked about it many times.

00:06:50.000 And this is what was so interesting was Zoran Mamdani talked about it when he got on stage.

00:06:57.000 And there were a lot of people, Van Jones included, who said, wow, this seems like a different Zoran Mandani.

00:07:04.000 It seems like he went full mask off.

00:07:06.000 And it's like, Van, you should just listen to us.

00:07:09.000 Andrew, I know you guys have been chatting with me.

00:07:11.000 What masks?

00:07:12.000 It's like, you guys should literally just listen to us because we called it.

00:07:16.000 And then he gets up there and he starts talking about the, was it the Ethiopian aunties and the Bengali wine cooks and the Ibuelas and the taxi driver?

00:07:27.000 And it's like, no, that's literally what the right has been saying the entire time that he was going to do.

00:07:32.000 The entire time.

00:07:33.000 And it was angry.

00:07:34.000 It was bitter.

00:07:35.000 It was resentful.

00:07:36.000 And it was just grievance politics for specific groups of people targeted against other groups.

00:07:41.000 Well, you know, it's funny.

00:07:42.000 AOC did a similar thing where she rattled off all these like minority groups. 0.72

00:07:45.000 She happened to include, I think, Irish and Italians, but it was like, it's complete fusionism.

00:07:50.000 It's complete, it's complete intersectionality.

00:07:54.000 It's let's unite the world's marginalized, as they would say, to fight Whitey. 0.98

00:07:59.000 That's essentially how I interpret it.

00:08:01.000 Is it true, by the way, that are all forks now banned in New York City?

00:08:05.000 Has that gone through?

00:08:06.000 Or does that wait until January?

00:08:08.000 Well, while we talk about it, too, don't forget that the new lieutenant governor of Virginia is also a Indian descent Muslim as well.

00:08:17.000 First statewide elected official ever.

00:08:20.000 Female first Muslim woman ever elected in the U.S. for statewide office.

00:08:26.000 Where was this?

00:08:28.000 For Virginia.

00:08:29.000 By the way, I want to play this clip from it.

00:08:31.000 It's relevant.

00:08:32.000 Play cut 275.

00:08:34.000 My family's back home in Kenya, and how I see how things are going on, like with families being separated as a human being, as a mother, separating families, especially children from their mothers or fathers.

00:08:53.000 I don't believe in that.

00:08:55.000 So that made me come out and also come and vote.

00:08:59.000 Okay, so she votes Democrats. 0.99

00:09:01.000 So we have an immigrant.

00:09:02.000 What?

00:09:02.000 That was Jersey.

00:09:05.000 Excuse me, that was Regina. 1.00

00:09:06.000 Virginia, yes.

00:09:07.000 Voted for Virginia Democrat candidate, Abigail Spanberger.

00:09:09.000 So she votes for a Democrat because she's an immigrant from, she's a Muslim immigrant from Kenya who doesn't like our immigration policies. 1.00

00:09:19.000 So then she votes for the Democrat.

00:09:21.000 And let's get in here because this is kind of what it all comes down to.

00:09:24.000 Play clip 274.

00:09:27.000 New York will remain a city of immigrants. 1.00

00:09:31.000 A city built by immigrants.

00:09:34.000 Powered by immigrants. 1.00

00:09:39.000 And as of tonight, led by an immigrant.

00:09:47.000 So this is the part that we need to get into.

00:09:50.000 And this is this of all the things here because it's a city of immigrants.

00:09:56.000 Agreed.

00:09:57.000 Powered by immigrants, at least today. 1.00

00:09:58.000 Agreed.

00:10:01.000 But was New York City built by immigrants?

00:10:04.000 Wait, do we have that picture of the famous the workers on the side, the skyscraper building New York?

00:10:10.000 They looked like exactly like that.

00:10:13.000 These are the type of guys that are listening to that music.

00:10:16.000 I want to put that picture up with that music playing because it's like, and Blake, like, just walk me through this.

00:10:23.000 Was New York City built by immigrants?

00:10:26.000 In the way that he's referring.

00:10:27.000 I mean, the Freedom Tower kind of was.

00:10:32.000 Man.

00:10:34.000 Are you talking about One World Trade Center?

00:10:38.000 Are you talking about?

00:10:38.000 Yeah, that building wouldn't exist.

00:10:40.000 Are you talking about the immigrant pilots?

00:10:42.000 Immigrant pilots. 0.52

00:10:42.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.52

00:10:43.000 The immigrant pilots of New York City.

00:10:47.000 I think, you know, we have to include all possible immigrant sources.

00:10:51.000 All the immigrant stories of, hey, we're just telling immigrant stories. 0.98

00:10:54.000 We're listening to immigrant voices, like great New York immigrants, like Muhammad Atta.

00:10:59.000 Yeah.

00:11:00.000 Wow.

00:11:01.000 Who was approved for flight school after he died?

00:11:04.000 Yeah, hey, only one flight, but it went down in history.

00:11:07.000 Yes, exactly.

00:11:08.000 He might be, in terms of time spent piloting a plane to infamy, he might be the most successful pilot of all time.

00:11:17.000 Jeez.

00:11:18.000 You know, I just... So dark.

00:11:19.000 I just...

00:11:20.000 Yeah, shit.

00:11:21.000 Is that for you or for Muhammad Atta?

00:11:26.000 So I find his speech really, really infuriating.

00:11:30.000 We have let in so many immigrants, and New York City has been the recipient of so many immigrants that it is, it no longer, we don't control it. 0.99

00:11:40.000 Americans do not control it. 0.79

00:11:43.000 And he's just, he's just spiking the football like a total jerk.

00:11:47.000 But we do.

00:11:48.000 I want to know how many illegals voted in this election.

00:11:51.000 Probably not too many, to be honest.

00:11:53.000 New Jersey, by the way, has been a lot of people.

00:11:55.000 Blake's opinion is like none.

00:11:57.000 Mine is probably like, you know, percentage.

00:12:00.000 You know, like Madison Square Guard are full.

00:12:03.000 Somewhere, it's somewhere in between that.

00:12:03.000 I don't know.

00:12:07.000 I just don't, I just don't think it's going to be that many.

00:12:07.000 I don't know.

00:12:09.000 And even if it wasn't.

00:12:11.000 Wait, how many?

00:12:12.000 If you had a guess.

00:12:13.000 What about how many?

00:12:14.000 And by the way, this is just illegals, but non-citizens.

00:12:16.000 Yeah, non-citizens and illegals. 1.00

00:12:18.000 So if you're so visas, green cards.

00:12:20.000 That's fair.

00:12:21.000 I should have expanded out to all that.

00:12:21.000 Fair.

00:12:23.000 That's what I meant.

00:12:24.000 Yes.

00:12:24.000 Non-citizens.

00:12:25.000 Yeah, I don't know.

00:12:26.000 Maybe a few hundred.

00:12:27.000 You think if only a few hundred in the entire city of New York voted for Mamdaniel?

00:12:32.000 I mean, why are they going to want to conceivably take that risk just so they can vote for Mamdani?

00:12:37.000 They don't care.

00:12:37.000 Because they don't care.

00:12:38.000 They've been told that they're full.

00:12:40.000 Totally fine.

00:12:41.000 And plus, voting for Mamdani, they're not going to want to take the British administration to come in and potentially arrest them for that.

00:12:47.000 That's the reason why they voted.

00:12:48.000 That's the reason why.

00:12:49.000 The thing about it is a lot of illegal immigrants just don't even care about U.S. elections. 1.00

00:12:53.000 That's the big thing about them.

00:12:54.000 Like, even, you know, people who just are here from foreign countries, very briefly, don't they're just not invested in American politics for the most part.

00:13:02.000 I feel like this is a great task for the civil rights division at the DOJ to identify.

00:13:10.000 I think.

00:13:11.000 Yeah, I mean, that's something you can do.

00:13:12.000 You can't do that.

00:13:13.000 Bollywood.

00:13:14.000 Send in the DOJ and feel free to indict every single person who illegally voted because who voted is a public record?

00:13:19.000 I think Harmeet Dylan is the right woman for the job. 0.96

00:13:23.000 She should move forward on identifying how many 100%.

00:13:26.000 We should arrest everyone who votes illegally.

00:13:29.000 We should indict and arrest everyone who votes illegally.

00:13:31.000 Especially because they're the sort of community that, you know, when you go after James Comey, James Comey is going to be able to have like a ton of lawyers and he's ready to like fight a big legal throwdown.

00:13:31.000 All right.

00:13:41.000 But if you're correct and thousands of people cast illegal ballots, you can totally indict a huge number of them.

00:13:49.000 And it's both expensive to try to defend all of them and it will like put the fear of God in these immigrant communities who mostly like the guy who's like the PR campaign event would be huge.

00:13:59.000 The PR campaign would be like, don't do this.

00:14:04.000 And again, even if it's hundreds, to your point, which is like, you're in like the most conservative position on that, right?

00:14:12.000 Probably.

00:14:12.000 Not like conservative, big C, but like little C.

00:14:15.000 Yeah.

00:14:16.000 Is that it's hundreds?

00:14:17.000 Hundreds of people getting in big trouble for this is a big deal.

00:14:21.000 So I would say go ahead and do that if that's the case, but I don't, I get, I guess I get annoyed because it's often a sort of automatic take from the right that they just assume this is happening.

00:14:21.000 Yeah.

00:14:30.000 And I would just say, if it is that obvious, then you can't just assume that it's not.

00:14:34.000 The automatic take from the right is that it's enough to flip the election.

00:14:38.000 I agree with your sentiment.

00:14:39.000 Probably not this election.

00:14:40.000 Not enough to flip this election.

00:14:42.000 But how many down ballot races does this type of thing end up impacting in other elections?

00:14:48.000 Before we get too far off topic, so yes, investigate it.

00:14:51.000 But I do want to get back on topic a little bit.

00:14:54.000 And guys, I want to throw a picture.

00:14:57.000 And Andrew, I want to get your sense of this.

00:14:58.000 Throw a picture 337.

00:15:03.000 These are the people.

00:15:05.000 The studio loves this with Bollywood Trinity.

00:15:08.000 Yeah, these are the guys who build America.

00:15:10.000 And no, they weren't listening to this type of music.

00:15:13.000 They might have been immigrants.

00:15:15.000 They might have been.

00:15:16.000 And certainly the people.

00:15:17.000 Here's what I want to explain, though.

00:15:19.000 They were certainly the people who built New York City and the skyscrapers.

00:15:23.000 There is a fundamental difference between the people who came as settlers, the people who came as colonists, and the people who are coming, to use Blake's phrase, as the gimmigrants, as the people who are coming to take from the society that Mamdani specifically stated was and is his political agenda, which will be the next political agenda going forward.

00:15:47.000 And I'm not gonna, by the way, if New York wasn't built by European settlers, why is it called that?

00:15:54.000 Why is it called that?

00:15:55.000 Yeah, like it's literally called New York, which and Blake, I believe York at one point was the capital of England.

00:16:02.000 It was the capital of one of the kingdoms, I think.

00:16:03.000 One of the kingdoms.

00:16:04.000 Northumbria.

00:16:05.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:16:06.000 But like London wasn't always the capital.

00:16:08.000 It got sacked by the Vikings and they took the king and they carved a blood eagle on him. 0.57

00:16:12.000 That was the Normans, right? 0.72

00:16:13.000 No, no, the Vikings did this is way back in like Viking age.

00:16:17.000 The Norman conquest wasn't until 1066.

00:16:19.000 Okay, the Vikings came as early in the 1700s, 700s.

00:16:23.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:16:25.000 So, but anyways, listen, here's the deal.

00:16:27.000 My take on this is, you know, and actually, Blake, I think you circulated this.

00:16:32.000 It was a substack.

00:16:33.000 It was really interesting.

00:16:35.000 And if you really want the full picture, America was settled by mostly Anglos, right?

00:16:43.000 And there was a lot of pushback to some of the immigrant classes that came, the Poles, the Italians, the Irish, all this stuff.

00:16:51.000 And there was concern.

00:16:55.000 And actually a lot of the mystique of America being built, being a nation of immigrants came out of that wave.

00:17:03.000 And it actually changed the way the nation talked about itself.

00:17:06.000 And there was concern even about letting in those cultures.

00:17:10.000 Now, we know in retrospect they assimilated very well because they happened to be mostly European, mostly Christian.

00:17:15.000 No, even then, even then, it actually like it needed a big lift to do it.

00:17:20.000 Well, in World War I and the aftermath, we basically quite aggressively cracked down on vestigial, non-assimilated elements of a lot of European immigrants to the U.S.

00:17:20.000 And so what the lift was.

00:17:33.000 So there used to be a lot of German language newspapers, a lot of German language stuff.

00:17:37.000 Oh, that's what I was going to say.

00:17:38.000 And we had the anti-German frenzy in World War I and stamped that out.

00:17:42.000 And so, you know, I grew up in a place with a lot of Germans.

00:17:45.000 No one knows German in the Dakotas.

00:17:47.000 And then you would have people, and the British royal family actually changed their name.

00:17:51.000 They changed their name.

00:17:52.000 They were pretty fully assimilated.

00:17:54.000 But it was German.

00:17:56.000 This substack basically makes the case that it's semi-miraculous that we were able to assimilate these people because of the greatness of America, but also these huge cataclysmic events like World War I and World War II.

00:18:09.000 But it did end up creating this narrative that America is a nation of immigrants, which made way for the 19, the heart seller. 0.98

00:18:17.000 Yeah, which then gave them a foothold to say, hey, we're just a nation of immigrants, and so it doesn't matter where you're from.

00:18:24.000 Well, that's not at all how we got from point A to point B. Point A was we're Anglo, we don't want Italians and Irish and Poles. 1.00

00:18:31.000 Then it was like, well, we just defeated the Nazis and saved the Western world, so I guess they're cool now, and we're all one nation.

00:18:38.000 And everybody's like, well, we did it once, we can do it again.

00:18:40.000 But here's the thing.

00:18:42.000 That's like three standard deviations from like assimilating European Christians and Catholics to, oh, we can have somebody like Zoramandani, who's a Muslim from Uganda slash Indian descent. 0.65

00:18:54.000 Hit the song.

00:18:55.000 To me, the most important thing about it is just that he ran pretty aggressively on and overtly on what you might call, you know, race communism, where he's going to say the objective of my administration is to target people who are white. 0.70

00:19:11.000 You can't leave out the fact that where did he hold his I mean, I don't know if these were rallies, but they were his last public appearances right before the election on Saturday night and Sunday night in New York City.

00:19:22.000 What were they?

00:19:23.000 Those clubs again, by the way, those clubs that he was appearing in?

00:19:28.000 ABC Club.

00:19:29.000 That's pretty funny.

00:19:29.000 Yes.

00:19:30.000 Okay, like 1 a.m. campaigning at gay clubs.

00:19:33.000 Yeah.

00:19:34.000 Here it is.

00:19:34.000 B rolls up.

00:19:36.000 This is Zoran at the gay club at 1 o'clock.

00:19:40.000 That is.

00:19:40.000 Gosh.

00:19:40.000 Yeah.

00:19:41.000 You just have it too excited.

00:19:42.000 You know, because there is voters on there.

00:19:43.000 Bring it up, but like, you know, it's an important thing where we bring up that, you know, we'll call him the, you know, foreign, the Muslim socialists, but like the Islam part is actually not a core part of his identity.

00:19:57.000 It's not part of like the way it was part of Muhammad.

00:19:59.000 Yeah, this is why calling him a jihadist is kind of washed.

00:20:02.000 But I mean, it's kind of played out.

00:20:04.000 Is that really a game?

00:20:05.000 Obviously, not.

00:20:06.000 Yes, it is.

00:20:07.000 He identifies as Muslim to the extent that he wants to show he is basically not American. 0.84

00:20:12.000 Right.

00:20:12.000 He's not American.

00:20:13.000 He's using it as an I'm not American part of his ideology.

00:20:16.000 And he says this on stage.

00:20:18.000 He's like, he's like, he's like, I am a Muslim.

00:20:20.000 And make sure you pronounce it that way.

00:20:23.000 Rob Finerdie.

00:20:24.000 It's like the old SML spit where anytime you talk about like whenever we're talking about Latin America, they suddenly have to have these weird fake accents.

00:20:30.000 No, no, no, yeah, Finner was just talking about Finnery was just talking about it.

00:20:35.000 And I came on and I was like, I was like, ah, yeah.

00:20:35.000 Rob Finerty.

00:20:39.000 We have broadcasting from Managua.

00:20:44.000 And I'm like, and he's like, you know, and it's just like, it's ridiculous.

00:20:47.000 It's completely ridiculous.

00:20:48.000 So, so yeah, that's New York City.

00:20:51.000 And I think we need to, and just to put a pin on this, because I do want to get to some of these other topics.

00:20:57.000 And we did promise a little bit of a spicy topic that we do need to fight for the story of who actually built America's cities and who actually built America's greatness.

00:21:07.000 And no, it was not like just this sort of vague all immigrants built America story.

00:21:14.000 Like that's just, it's just wrong.

00:21:16.000 And it's led to bad policy.

00:21:18.000 Exactly.

00:21:19.000 That's why I brought up that outcome.

00:21:20.000 That's why I brought up that sub stack is because we changed the myth, the story that we told ourselves as a nation after that first wave of early, it was late 19th, but mostly early 20th century wave of immigrants.

00:21:35.000 So spot on.

00:21:36.000 And when we did that, we fundamentally changed the character of the country.

00:21:40.000 Now we were able to assimilate, but listen, that is one thing.

00:21:44.000 This is entirely another.

00:21:46.000 And to just continually say to ourselves, we can keep assimilating and keep a nation, I think is a fool's errand.

00:21:54.000 But this is what, this is, when you talk about the myths that we tell, the story, reclaiming the story, this is Jennifer Welch to Mehdi Hassan at Zoron's victory party saying, you know, if it was all white people in here, it'd be boring.

00:22:06.000 And Americans have no culture except multiculturalism. 0.91

00:22:09.000 3.38.

00:22:11.000 I'm going to type something.

00:22:13.000 It was all white people here right now.

00:22:15.000 They were doing boring and s***.

00:22:18.000 I've grown up in those circles.

00:22:20.000 Everybody needs some spies and so color in their lives.

00:22:23.000 Life's a lot better.

00:22:24.000 That's the coolest thing about America.

00:22:26.000 Americans have no culture. 1.00

00:22:30.000 Well said.

00:22:31.000 And we need to teach people how their party stands.

00:22:37.000 It's actually like, that's actually a truly despicable thing.

00:22:40.000 And they say this a lot.

00:22:41.000 Yeah.

00:22:41.000 Like white people have no culture.

00:22:43.000 No, like, screw you.

00:22:44.000 I could say a stronger word here, except, you know, the spirit of Charlie would smite me.

00:22:48.000 Like, screw you for saying that.

00:22:49.000 No.

00:22:50.000 Europeans actually have a tremendous amount of culture.

00:22:52.000 Americans have a tremendous amount of culture.

00:22:54.000 To the extent that they say this, it's because like these awful people come in and like demean them, deny they like have any sort of cultural status as a way to justify dispossessing and displacing them.

00:23:09.000 Hey, guess what?

00:23:09.000 There's culture that isn't just like whatever slop you guys eat that you call like your national cuisine.

00:23:14.000 That was probably still invented by a freaking European anyway. 0.99

00:23:17.000 A lot of it was.

00:23:18.000 Yeah.

00:23:19.000 Yeah.

00:23:19.000 Chicken tikka masala.

00:23:20.000 Chicken tikka masala.

00:23:21.000 Invented in Edinburgh.

00:23:22.000 Salmon sushi invented by Norwegians.

00:23:25.000 Like it's really good.

00:23:25.000 So many of these things.

00:23:26.000 Like, oh, wow.

00:23:27.000 Like, just, it's disgusting.

00:23:29.000 It's actively disgusting.

00:23:31.000 And not the least.

00:23:31.000 Yes, it was.

00:23:32.000 Yeah.

00:23:32.000 And not the least.

00:23:33.000 I want to go to Edinburgh now.

00:23:34.000 But then you're not going to be able to do it.

00:23:34.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:23:35.000 But then it got really big in London.

00:23:38.000 Yeah.

00:23:38.000 I mean, it's just, you know, it's like they do this a lot.

00:23:42.000 Austria has the best Middle Eastern cuisine.

00:23:44.000 All right, hold on.

00:23:45.000 And beyond that, and beyond that, it's like the United States of America, the nation that gave us rock music, Hollywood, the nation that gave us Mark Twain, the nation that gave us, you know, stories like Paul Bunyan, the nation that gave us Daniel Boone, the nation that gave us Davey Crockett, the Alamo, infinity number of things.

00:24:06.000 We don't have a culture.

00:24:07.000 The nation that gave us country music.

00:24:09.000 The blues.

00:24:10.000 The blues.

00:24:11.000 And we just have this slug where white people don't have a culture.

00:24:11.000 Jazz.

00:24:15.000 No, like flip the bird to those people.

00:24:17.000 That's King.

00:24:17.000 Go off.

00:24:18.000 Absolutely, absolutely violent.

00:24:20.000 But guys.

00:24:20.000 No, it's not really a culture unless I can make some obnoxious Instagram posts about being immersed in like a different name for your grandmother.

00:24:30.000 That's like not an English word.

00:24:33.000 It's not really a culture unless you have an abuela or whatever.

00:24:37.000 So let's just look at it this guy because I know we got to segue into our spicy topics, but it's really simple as this.

00:24:44.000 We can have God bless America.

00:24:46.000 We could have God bless the USA.

00:24:48.000 Or we can have.

00:24:51.000 I thought you were going to go with like Hala Akbar or something.

00:24:54.000 Yeah.

00:24:56.000 Yeah.

00:24:56.000 I mean, it's really disgusting.

00:24:58.000 I mean, the amount of self-loathing that liberal white America has for itself.

00:25:02.000 4 billion people have written one song and made one movie.

00:25:05.000 But this is really simple, though.

00:25:06.000 This is just like you talk about the cities that were built in America.

00:25:11.000 The ingenuity, the actual cultures that came together to build what was initial.

00:25:17.000 They don't care about any of that.

00:25:19.000 They're just going to knock it all down and start over and replace it with.

00:25:22.000 It's the fall of Rome.

00:25:23.000 I mean, it's just like you go through these European cities, you see it like these, and again, I just brought up Austria.

00:25:29.000 Like you go to Vienna.

00:25:30.000 Vienna is a beautiful city, has a ton of historic nature to it.

00:25:34.000 But you can tell very rapidly the places that have been defaced and replaced with Middle Eastern influence that have completely rebuilt over the top.

00:25:46.000 And all the Austrians have moved out. 1.00

00:25:48.000 And those are the cultures that moved in.

00:25:51.000 And they don't care.

00:25:52.000 And obviously they're going to eliminate and eradicate all the historic elements that were there.

00:25:58.000 And that's going to be just tread underneath their feet.

00:26:01.000 New York is.

00:26:02.000 And by the way, there's way more preservation of history, in my opinion, in these European cities than America has.

00:26:09.000 America has no culture of historic preservation.

00:26:13.000 In fact, we've eradicated our own history in most cases with Gothic architecture and everything else.

00:26:19.000 Art Deco.

00:26:20.000 We have some.

00:26:20.000 Art Deco.

00:26:21.000 We have some.

00:26:22.000 No, but we've got a lot of people.

00:26:23.000 You're talking about New York City tearing down.

00:26:25.000 No, not even New York City.

00:26:26.000 I'm talking about the Midwest.

00:26:28.000 Think about some of the places in the Midwest, Kansas City.

00:26:31.000 They leveled all of the originating architecture that was there.

00:26:36.000 Chicago had a ton of this.

00:26:38.000 It was eliminated.

00:26:39.000 Milwaukee actually still has some up that you can, but like, so you can see some of this in Milwaukee.

00:26:45.000 Like when we had the RNC last year, Tanya and the kids went over to like the, it's just like the Milwaukee library.

00:26:50.000 Yeah.

00:26:51.000 And it's just this, it's like a cathedral.

00:26:53.000 It's gothic.

00:26:54.000 It's amazing.

00:26:54.000 It's gothic.

00:26:55.000 You know, we can puncture, we can like, and it's like go through the elephant in the room.

00:26:58.000 A lot of American urban culture was wiped out because we had white flight in the 60s because of the last time libs got like total cultural domination and they decided to quadruple the crime rate overnight and have riots run everywhere. 0.85

00:27:11.000 So people had to leave.

00:27:12.000 You know, when it happens in other countries, it's called ethnic cleansing when that happens.

00:27:17.000 But I guess in America, it was just like, I guess the people who left were bad because they didn't want to be murdered.

00:27:22.000 Like we've literally done an entire podcast.

00:27:24.000 Yeah, like you go to Detroit and it's just like, oh, there's all these beautiful abandoned homes and all the people just had to leave, I guess.

00:27:30.000 Yeah, so I mean I experienced this in a very small way in my hometown where, you know, ethnic whites, you know, Italian, Irish, and Polish like myself, and Section 8 came in and crime came in and then it became a sanctuary city.

00:27:45.000 Which they still want to do.

00:27:46.000 Remember, big left-wing idea.

00:27:48.000 And this is, you know, right outside Philadelphia.

00:27:51.000 And they just, you know, block busting obviously was a huge part of that.

00:27:54.000 And that's almost exactly what happened to my family, where this tight-knit, not like working class area, but tight-knit, great architecture.

00:28:03.000 Yeah, where you want to, while we're on this topic, because I think you're going to be able to do that.

00:28:05.000 The Bronx used to have one of the largest Jewish populations in the United States.

00:28:09.000 If I was king of the world, I would force America to have to, you only had three options for architectural styles.

00:28:16.000 Art Deco in the major cities, neoclassical, or Gothic.

00:28:22.000 That's colonial. 0.73

00:28:23.000 No, no, no.

00:28:24.000 You can have more.

00:28:25.000 There's other styles.

00:28:26.000 No, those are my three.

00:28:26.000 Houses?

00:28:28.000 Every town should have its Queen Anne Revival.

00:28:30.000 Those are the fun houses that have the little turrets and stuff.

00:28:33.000 But that being said, Blake's got a point, though, because you just keep importing people from parts of the world that have no care about that whatsoever.

00:28:42.000 You're just going to get the extended favala of India or like Brazil or whatever. 0.87

00:28:49.000 Rio.

00:28:52.000 If you're a listener to the Charlie Kirk show, you know that Charlie built an amazing community through conversation.

00:28:59.000 And that was online, that was in person.

00:29:01.000 It was everywhere.

00:29:02.000 We're able to go very viral about what we're able to do on TikTok.

00:29:05.000 Billions and billions of views.

00:29:06.000 But it was one connection at a time.

00:29:09.000 TikTok offers opportunities for respectful exchanges of ideas.

00:29:13.000 And through that, opportunities for community, not to talk over each other, but to talk with each other.

00:29:18.000 On TikTok, you'll find creators who teach and encourage a carpenter passing on his craft, a mom explaining how to make a budget stretch, or a gardener showing us how to bring a backyard back to life.

00:29:29.000 Different stories, but the same drive.

00:29:32.000 The desire to connect and to understand.

00:29:34.000 That's what makes a strong community.

00:29:36.000 A common desire to connect, to find a way forward through respectful dialogue, building trust and feeling heard.

00:29:41.000 Freedom to speak what we know and hear each other out.

00:29:44.000 That's the power of TikTok.

00:29:45.000 It gives everyone a seat at the table, a place to speak, to listen, and to remind each other of what connection really looks like.

00:29:52.000 Conversation build connection, and connections build communities.

00:29:58.000 We have to commit to going to the next topic here, but I will say what's interesting, and I've never thought about it.

00:30:03.000 I have thought about it, but I've never articulated it before, is that even white flight, Blake, have you ever noticed that your whole life it's been talked about as if it was like the white people's, like they get judged there for you?

00:30:14.000 Yeah, it's their white people are bad for everything. 1.00

00:30:16.000 I know it was all things are white.

00:30:18.000 So and by the way, as a great segue, when I appeared on Tucker's tour last year in Pennsylvania, he specifically asked me to tell my story.

00:30:29.000 And we did that in Reading, Pennsylvania, which was pretty much 20, 25 minutes from where I grew up.

00:30:35.000 So the whole, you know, everyone in the area is we're in the Northeast and everyone in the area knew what I was talking about and knew about these different trends and these different pressures that we were all experiencing about how we completely just blew up these communities.

00:30:50.000 And like I lived in a town where the people on my block were all the, you know, all the adults on my block were the people that my father had played with as kids when he grew up on the same block.

00:31:02.000 So like I grew up in the same house that my father grew up in and that his sisters grew up in and that we had had for, it was built in 1901.

00:31:11.000 And this was like beautiful wood architecture.

00:31:14.000 Tyler, we had stained glass sliding doors in our dining room.

00:31:18.000 That was so cool.

00:31:19.000 And that was like, I still want to go back and buy them actually because I drive by the house a lot.

00:31:23.000 And Tucker brought this up to say, hey, look, you know, this is not like an approved topic, but it's something that happened to a lot of people.

00:31:33.000 And it's like, and I've talked to like Jeremy Carl, like I've talked to Jeremy Carl about this, and he's like, I totally get where you're coming from with your politics because you just want to get your hometown back.

00:31:45.000 And that's really all it boils down to for me.

00:31:47.000 It's like they took from me some, like, I always define success as like, you know, not like the amount of dollars in my bank account or whatever.

00:31:54.000 It was just like having a nicer house in my hometown.

00:31:59.000 Like, you know what I mean?

00:32:00.000 Like, that was being successful.

00:32:01.000 Yeah, the amount of cultural displacement that's happened, you know, it's interesting.

00:32:06.000 If you get a city that gentrifies, right?

00:32:08.000 A lot of money comes in.

00:32:10.000 This happened in the 90s, early 2000s because, oh, we got tough on crime.

00:32:14.000 And so investment came back in, money came back in, prices went up.

00:32:20.000 There was so much ink spilled, books written about cultural displacement for the urban minorities, right, during that time.

00:32:26.000 But when the shoe was on the other foot and white communities get displaced because of crime that is expanding outward into white neighborhoods or ethnic white neighborhoods like you grew up in Philly, there's zero compassion on that cultural experience.

00:32:41.000 There's zero acknowledgement that bad policy has led to more violent neighborhoods and run down degraded neighborhoods.

00:32:50.000 And I think it's a shame.

00:32:51.000 But anyways, Tucker Carlson.

00:32:52.000 Tucker.

00:32:54.000 And so Tucker, so yeah, I'll set the stage.

00:32:57.000 And look, you know, that was kind of my segue point was that of all the things that, you know, I was expecting to talk about on, you know, on a live, it was a live podcast, but also a live show, a huge stadium, Santander Arena in Redding, absolutely sold out.

00:33:12.000 And Tucker's like, I just want you to talk about your hometown.

00:33:14.000 I'm like, really?

00:33:16.000 Okay, sure.

00:33:16.000 You know, and so I did.

00:33:20.000 And so getting into the Tucker question, you know, I think that's what Tucker is all about.

00:33:26.000 And he's obviously, you know, always wants to get in, find new stories and find new things to talk about.

00:33:32.000 And he obviously has been no stranger to controversy.

00:33:35.000 And he has had a lot of controversy this week, or I should say there's been controversy about him because of a particular interview.

00:33:44.000 He had Nick Fuentes on a couple, I guess it's a couple of weeks ago at this point, or it was last week.

00:33:48.000 I'm not sure exactly, recently.

00:33:50.000 And a lot of people have been saying, should he have had him on?

00:33:54.000 Is he ruining the world?

00:33:55.000 Is the sky falling because he did an interview?

00:33:58.000 Tucker's had obviously people who were considered controversial before.

00:34:00.000 He's had Vladimir Putin on.

00:34:03.000 He's had, I think, Lavrov on as well.

00:34:06.000 He's in just kind of his job.

00:34:08.000 So, you know, this was going around and a lot of people were saying, oh, you guys got a comment.

00:34:12.000 You guys got a comment.

00:34:13.000 And I was like, no, there's an election, actually.

00:34:15.000 I'm going to focus on that.

00:34:16.000 We should probably explain to people what we're not going to ruin.

00:34:19.000 But no, no, well, this is my setup to say, okay, but now the election is over.

00:34:24.000 And so let's talk about it.

00:34:26.000 So Blake, you.

00:34:27.000 What are we talking about?

00:34:27.000 So Blake, as a former, you know, what is the thought crime statement?

00:34:30.000 No, no, not even what is the thought crime statement, but like, I'm not sure everyone even knows what we're referring to with Tucker.

00:34:35.000 Why don't you explain it, Blake?

00:34:36.000 Well, I just mentioned that.

00:34:37.000 I've got to explain that.

00:34:39.000 Wouldn't you?

00:34:40.000 You're good at explaining that.

00:34:40.000 How about Tyler explains it?

00:34:42.000 Wait.

00:34:43.000 Tyler.

00:34:44.000 Wait, is there something that's there?

00:34:46.000 I'm not.

00:34:47.000 I'm not sure if it's a good idea.

00:34:47.000 I'm not prepared for this topic.

00:34:49.000 No, I'm serious.

00:34:49.000 Is there something other than him having Nick on?

00:34:52.000 Well, it's the way that the interview was conducted.

00:34:54.000 I will tell you that.

00:34:55.000 That's part of it, right?

00:34:56.000 That's part of it.

00:34:57.000 A lot of people.

00:34:59.000 A lot of people are upset.

00:35:01.000 So just for those who aren't paying attention, Tucker Carlson, Tucker Carlson had Nicholas Fuentes on his show.

00:35:08.000 He had him out to Maine.

00:35:10.000 Obviously, Fuentes had a quite long and one-sided obsession with our boss, I believe, or our late boss.

00:35:20.000 And so that's colored it a lot.

00:35:22.000 And it's also just colored other ways.

00:35:24.000 So it's actually, for those who aren't following it online, it's had this sort of thunderous aftermath.

00:35:29.000 We've had background here with that to lean into that.

00:35:33.000 I mean, the reality is Nick has a bunch of followers that they call themselves Groipers.

00:35:37.000 They largely are young men.

00:35:41.000 If we could say that.

00:35:42.000 It's not all men, but it's largely young men.

00:35:45.000 Many have had some kind of interaction with Turning Point in a negative way.

00:35:51.000 And in most cases, I would say, do not feel warmly invited mainly around the Israel issue because Turning Point historically has been a pro-Israel organization.

00:36:04.000 And a lot of these young men, their single issue, if you can say there's a single issue, is their distrust or just outright hatred for the state of Israel.

00:36:21.000 And then you have a number of other layered things on top of that, which are some issues on race.

00:36:28.000 Well, I mean, things like that.

00:36:30.000 Nick has been vitriolic towards Charlie.

00:36:32.000 He's been very open about it.

00:36:34.000 He's said nasty things about Erica.

00:36:36.000 He's been really nasty about, yeah, Israel.

00:36:40.000 He's been nasty to Tucker, actually.

00:36:43.000 They've gotten to their own spat.

00:36:44.000 And I think people were expecting NJD.

00:36:47.000 I think they were expecting this to be a much more contentious interview.

00:36:53.000 Is one of the main things.

00:36:54.000 I wasn't expecting that because it's just not what Tucker would do.

00:36:57.000 I wanted to pull up.

00:36:59.000 I know we didn't pull up your clips, but I know Charlie wasn't talked about a lot, but I do think they mentioned him a little bit in the other thing that caused a lot of pushback.

00:37:12.000 And I do want to make this clear.

00:37:13.000 There was a lot of pushback because Tucker said essentially that he just, I think the exact quote was he despised Christian Zionist.

00:37:24.000 And then so that was a huge, a huge bone of contention for the evangelical community, especially the dispensationalists that believe that the current nation state of Israel is prophetically foretold of in scriptures and that they do represent sort of a very important prophetic timeline piece, the current nation state of Israel to God's ultimate plan for humanity, right?

00:37:53.000 So you've got this whole dynamic going on.

00:37:56.000 I want to say that Tucker ended up going on Dave Smith's podcast and walked that back, that he despises Christian Zionists.

00:38:03.000 He just walked it back.

00:38:03.000 He apologized.

00:38:04.000 He apologized.

00:38:04.000 He said, I apologize.

00:38:06.000 What I was upset about.

00:38:07.000 What he said was he was upset that there was bombings of Christian churches in Gaza and that people did not apologize, that he feels they were intentional.

00:38:16.000 And obviously Israel.

00:38:18.000 I think he said that he, like, I'm not taking either side.

00:38:22.000 I'm just trying to quote it.

00:38:23.000 That he was saying that he thought that Christian leaders weren't outspoken about that enough.

00:38:28.000 Yeah, and I think I have the exact quote.

00:38:31.000 It says, but at the same time, he did fully apologize.

00:38:34.000 I said, I really regret saying that.

00:38:36.000 I didn't fully mean it.

00:38:37.000 I said it because I was mad, which is when I say I don't really mean when I get pissed.

00:38:44.000 My wife's always telling me this.

00:38:46.000 I was snippy and I didn't explain it.

00:38:48.000 And I said something to the effect that I despise Christian Zionists. 1.00

00:38:51.000 And I'm just sorry that I said that because I was just mad at a certain kind of thinking.

00:38:56.000 Some of the nicest people I know are Christian Zionists, actually. 0.93

00:38:58.000 You know, if you're in a car crash, they would save you.

00:39:01.000 If you needed someone to watch your bank account, they wouldn't steal from you.

00:39:04.000 They're like really good people and sweet people.

00:39:06.000 So he tried to do it.

00:39:07.000 And then he clarifies that he was upset about the church bombings in Gaza, that more Christian leaders weren't calling it out.

00:39:11.000 Yeah.

00:39:13.000 So, I mean, Blake, I think you said it really well.

00:39:17.000 And I hate to keep putting you on the spot here, but You have a history with Tucker, and that's why I think there's, you know, I don't want to say you're being cynical or something, but you're just, you didn't have high hopes for it.

00:39:28.000 No, so it's like, I mean, when you watch it, you kind of, it basically went as I about expected it to.

00:39:37.000 It wasn't 100% friendly.

00:39:39.000 He does, if you watch the whole interview, it's about two hours long, I think.

00:39:44.000 He does at some point, you know, he questions Nick, like, okay, you seem to sort of have a somewhat hate-based ideology, or like he kind of paints entire groups all the same way.

00:39:58.000 And, you know, he pushes him a bit on that.

00:40:00.000 But at the same time, it's Nick.

00:40:03.000 He has a pretty long history.

00:40:04.000 He's been online a long time.

00:40:06.000 There's a lot of clips, as they might say.

00:40:08.000 And you don't need to like nitpick every single thing because it is true.

00:40:11.000 Some of what he says is clearly just attempting to be transgressive, comedic, funny.

00:40:18.000 Actually, some of the wildest stuff people obsess about when he says like he loves Hitler or whatever.

00:40:22.000 A lot of that is even in that vein.

00:40:25.000 But there's still a lot of stuff that you could talk about.

00:40:28.000 So you're having Nick Fuentes on, who, among other things, is famous for this long-running feud with Charlie Kirk.

00:40:34.000 Well, Nick Fuentes, within the past month, basically said, you know, everyone's thinking this, you know, Erica Kirk looks extremely happy that her husband's dead.

00:40:42.000 This is what everyone's thinking.

00:40:43.000 Everyone's talking about it.

00:40:46.000 Okay.

00:40:47.000 I know Erica.

00:40:48.000 I don't think she's happy that her husband died.

00:40:50.000 I think that's a pretty, I think that's a pretty hurtful thing.

00:40:53.000 That's a terrible thing to say.

00:40:54.000 I think that's a hurtful thing to say.

00:40:55.000 And I'm a little disappointed Tucker didn't bring that up or push him on that.

00:41:00.000 You know, why did you say that, Nick?

00:41:02.000 Why did you say that about a woman whose husband was just murdered?

00:41:06.000 Why did you?

00:41:08.000 And I think he just didn't, he didn't ask about that.

00:41:11.000 He didn't ask about some of the stuff he said about JD Vance.

00:41:14.000 And I think more broadly, he let, especially in the early part, he definitely just seeded the stage for Nick to give his narrative of his life, where basically I'm just a normal America-first guy, and then the Jews just were constantly messing with me and sabotaging me, whether it was Ben Shapiro or various other people, which several of those people came out and said his narrative was a misleading, self-aggrandizing lie.

00:41:40.000 I don't know the truth about it.

00:41:41.000 I'm not obsessed with his history.

00:41:43.000 But he basically just kind of let him tell that.

00:41:45.000 And it's clear Tucker approved of that narrative.

00:41:48.000 That basically he was buying into, oh, yeah, those darn Jews just came in and messed with Nick because he, you know, wanted to have America-first foreign policy. 1.00

00:41:59.000 Okay, I think there's probably a few other things he did that made people not like Nick.

00:42:05.000 Or dig into, okay, Nick, you have a lot of burned former colleagues who don't like you for this reason.

00:42:12.000 There's like weird things where people say he has like a lot of associations with like outright sex predators and stuff.

00:42:17.000 You could get into a lot of that.

00:42:19.000 You could get into the Stalin clip.

00:42:23.000 Yeah, or the Stalin thing.

00:42:24.000 He just says, he kind of throws out like, oh, I love Stalin.

00:42:26.000 The Stalin thing.

00:42:27.000 Why don't we pause and pick at that?

00:42:28.000 You know, Tucker, you picked at Ted Cruz because he didn't know enough super abusive.

00:42:33.000 He didn't know enough facts about Iran.

00:42:34.000 Could we pick up Nicola Fuentes for saying he loves a guy who killed tens of millions of people, possibly?

00:42:41.000 Millions of Christians, including them? 1.00

00:42:43.000 I mean, we care about the fate of Christians here.

00:42:46.000 Or do they only matter when they're in Gaza?

00:42:47.000 The Stalin thing really bothered me because I think that accentuated that there was like an overlooking of like it created. 0.85

00:42:55.000 The look of the scene, when it happens, is that he had an environment where he wanted to only mildly question Fuentes and then he was caught off guard when Fuentes said something that was really freaking bad and he's like I listened to the whole.

00:43:08.000 I listened to the whole uh, both this interview and when Tucker was on Dave Smith and and I think Tucker also mentions this on Dave Smith and just, and he I'm trying to remember this from memory but he sort of said like I was caught so off guard that I wish I had said something and and that he didn't.

00:43:24.000 So he did actually yeah, but we've all seen Tucker on yeah yeah no, I'm not disputing that, I'm just saying that's.

00:43:31.000 We've.

00:43:31.000 Seen Tucker and again, maybe his frame of mind was he was being his friend.

00:43:35.000 I can totally buy that his frame of mind is like he's giving this guy a shot and he really believes he's extremely talented and that maybe his outreach can guide him to a better, more tucker like version of Nick Fuentes.

00:43:49.000 And honestly, you know, I hate even spending this this much time on on it, but I, and there's a part of me that thinks that that was like his goal and I'm not agreeing with that.

00:43:59.000 I'm just saying I think that that that was kind of the goal, like a big brother, because because of that whole stalin situation and again I'm not, I'm not saying that's okay, I'm not saying that like that's what I would have done. 0.95

00:44:10.000 Charlie wouldn't have done that right, like you want the Tucker, who's like excuse me Stalin yeah, like what?

00:44:16.000 Yeah, what are you talking about really?

00:44:17.000 Like a guy who kills tens of millions of people, including millions of Christians. 0.82

00:44:20.000 Like how could, how could Christian priests, how could your, how could your ideological centering be around Stalin and explain that to us?

00:44:29.000 Like where the point you come from?

00:44:30.000 Because I think actually that epitomizes and I think if if, if the guy was here right now, he would tell you the same thing.

00:44:37.000 Part of his ideology is he agrees with an authoritarian, you know, slightly communist version of whatever his current worldview is, and that's part of the reason why he thinks so greatly of him.

00:44:51.000 And and again, that and again.

00:44:53.000 I know that that's not, that's not Tucker's worldview, I know that that's not his position.

00:44:58.000 We know Tucker and I actually do buy that.

00:45:00.000 He was probably so caught off guard by that and his headspace was in another place entirely, probably what you were saying that he was trying to, but it shows that he doesn't really know who this guy is and what that that movement is.

00:45:10.000 We've gotten to know that movement and again, like we know, they exist in the aura of whatever right, but we totally disagree with like the whole.

00:45:19.000 There's a whole communist faction that's underlying, with a lot of these guys that are outright communists, that think that like, the 1917 revolution's great and we saw elements of this come out which, by the way, um uh, what's his name?

00:45:34.000 And, by the way, that's Hassan Piker, said that at the Mondani um uh victory party.

00:45:39.000 was talking about how he actually said i wish the united states had not defeated the soviet union and so we i do this horseshoe theory although i don't i don't think that all kids realize they're signing up for that when they follow these guys And again, I think that there's an element here where maybe like maybe Tucker's not totally aware of that existence, but I think he is now.

00:46:00.000 I think people should be now.

00:46:02.000 They should be aware that there's a whole communist angle to that entire movement that we totally disagree with, and that there's nothing there that you could possibly ever commend.

00:46:13.000 Well, and I do.

00:46:15.000 And that's just the reality of it for me, like ideologically, is that I mean, I studied, I mean, that's our connection.

00:46:20.000 I studied Soviet-era politics.

00:46:22.000 There is so much intrinsically evil in communist ideology that it to me, it's like kind of messing with ghosts.

00:46:29.000 Yeah, it's like, was that a joke?

00:46:31.000 It's like messing with the Ouija word too.

00:46:32.000 Do you really mean that?

00:46:33.000 It's like you messing with communist ideologies, like messing with the Ouija.

00:46:37.000 Because it's a hard signal.

00:46:39.000 In the interest of just fairness, so the only time that I think Charlie came up at all a few times, which were a few times, three or four times in it, and I'm going through the transcript right now.

00:46:51.000 You know, it's them speaking out against violence.

00:46:56.000 It's Nick saying that never should have happened, that Charlie was a conservative guy, relative moderate.

00:47:01.000 He's not a politician.

00:47:03.000 You know, he got shot, and then 100,000 liberals went on TikTok and celebrated.

00:47:07.000 And then how can you, you know, integrate or harmonize with that?

00:47:09.000 So, I mean, he was talking about violence, which is Nick.

00:47:15.000 And then, so you hear, you know, so it which does make the Salin thing, like, you're like, wait, what?

00:47:19.000 Does that mean?

00:47:20.000 And he even said that they actually had a really good part where they were talking about, and I say good in relative terms, but I thought it was good that this narrative got out that when they were talking about Tyler Robinson and talking about some of these new revelations, which we haven't even done on Thought Crime yet, of the Discord messages and some of the, like, the, there's like this leaker now in the Tyler Robinson friend group.

00:47:46.000 I've got to get that leak.

00:47:47.000 And they mentioned this.

00:47:48.000 So they're mentioning the LSD use.

00:47:50.000 They're mentioning the weed use, the drug use, the Discords, the chat GPT obsession of the roommate in this.

00:47:59.000 This is the transgender boyfriend in all of it.

00:48:03.000 And so they, you know, it wasn't like a long time they were talking about it.

00:48:07.000 But what did he say?

00:48:10.000 So I got the transcript again here.

00:48:12.000 You know, this psychoactive substances, make-believe reality of the internet, totally disconnected from the real world.

00:48:17.000 And I think they enter into this delusional state.

00:48:19.000 I think that's where the shooter in Minneapolis, I think that if Tyler Robinson is found guilty, there's these interesting screenshots about him and his transgender boyfriend.

00:48:28.000 It's the same story there.

00:48:29.000 If that's true, I'd imagine it's not dissimilar with the guy who showed up.

00:48:32.000 And, you know, and he's talking about the time there was a guy who tried to, you know, allegedly try to kill Nick as well, was, you know, was in kind of one of these like almost fugue states and was talking.

00:48:42.000 So they were talking about political violence, right?

00:48:44.000 They were talking about political violence and being extremely against it.

00:48:47.000 And, you know, obviously that's what makes the Stalin comment weird, but that was the only time they brought up Charlie directly in the whole interview.

00:48:55.000 Yeah.

00:48:55.000 Well, listen, yeah.

00:48:57.000 I mean, sorry, were you?

00:48:59.000 Okay, good.

00:49:00.000 I'm not, I'm not cutting anybody off.

00:49:01.000 Listen, I just want to point out that they did actually discuss Tyler Robinson kind of in depth.

00:49:05.000 Yeah, and I just want to say something as well, though, too, is that and we should talk more about that because the radicalization elements and the drug use and this leaker is like actually a big development.

00:49:16.000 But I would say that, you know, here, you know, I saw a lot of people like on social media basically sharing a speaker graphic from before Charlie even died of Amphest.

00:49:27.000 It was the Amphest one, yeah. 1.00

00:49:28.000 Yeah.

00:49:29.000 Charlie's Tuck one.

00:49:30.000 With Tucker and Charlie still on it.

00:49:31.000 And everybody's like, you know, all these people that now hate Tucker are like, you're disgraced.

00:49:37.000 What you have done, what you've done is disgrace.

00:49:39.000 And I'm like, you, how are we disgracing Charlie's?

00:49:42.000 This is Charlie's graphic that he published when he was alive.

00:49:47.000 And you're acting like we've somehow done something to disgrace Charlie.

00:49:50.000 And I will tell you one other thing, though.

00:49:52.000 Charlie, I'm sure, would have been disappointed with aspects of that interview, probably that it even happened, okay?

00:49:58.000 But I will tell you this.

00:50:00.000 If you put Charlie against a corner and you tried to back him up against a wall, he would defy any moral blackmail that you can imagine.

00:50:09.000 It was the one thing that I saw time and time and time again from Charlie, especially in the last couple of years.

00:50:15.000 Like when you tried to coerce him or control him or emotionally manipulate him, like he would have defied the heck out of you just to defy you and not be controlled by you.

00:50:24.000 100%.

00:50:25.000 And I cannot reiterate what Andrew is saying enough.

00:50:28.000 And I know we all agree with this, but I just want to reiterate this.

00:50:32.000 I don't always agree with anyone.

00:50:35.000 I mean, you get married to people.

00:50:37.000 You don't always agree with them, right?

00:50:38.000 Like you're clearly not always going to agree with everything that comes out of Tucker's mouth.

00:50:42.000 We don't agree with everything that comes out of everyone's mouth that we invite to America Fest and that speak or that work with us.

00:50:49.000 That doesn't mean that they're not, they still can't be your friend.

00:50:52.000 And Tucker was a friend to Charlie.

00:50:54.000 Charlie was a friend to Tucker.

00:50:57.000 And, you know, where it goes from here, you know, Tucker could change his entire mantra and everything else, right?

00:51:06.000 But there is still always going to exist a friendship and a memory that exists with those two gentlemen.

00:51:13.000 And we are way too close to the death of Charlie Kirk to be flying off the handle and making preconceived conceived notions about people and where their head's at.

00:51:29.000 And again, that's not to say that you're not going to disagree with him more later on or you're not going to, or that you're always going to be in the same place that you were the day that Charlie was taken off this earth.

00:51:41.000 It was taken from us.

00:51:43.000 But you're always going to have that same bond that exists there and that respect that everyone should have, mutually respecting anyone that loved Charlie that much and that Charlie loved equally.

00:51:56.000 Because again, Blake's worked for the man has vocally disagreed with him in this segment that we're talking about.

00:52:04.000 He could still have all that existing.

00:52:06.000 I think you're the only one who worked for both, actually.

00:52:08.000 And I want to say this is just, and this finished with this is just to honor Charlie's life by honoring that relationship.

00:52:17.000 And that doesn't necessarily mean you have to agree.

00:52:19.000 We've gotten questions.

00:52:20.000 We get emails about this and I respond to some of them where I just say, like, I mean, Charlie faced a lot of pressure to deplatform Tucker a lot.

00:52:29.000 And he consistently pushed back on that.

00:52:31.000 And I don't know how Charlie would have reacted to this Nick interview in this world where it happens while he's still around, which could plausibly have happened, I think.

00:52:42.000 I don't know how he'd have reacted to that, but we know how he responded to other things that made people pressure him.

00:52:47.000 And I'll be honest, I think Charlie probably would not have liked this interview that Tucker did.

00:52:51.000 I think he was quite annoyed with it.

00:52:53.000 He would have been annoyed with it on several levels.

00:52:56.000 There's actually really no doubt about it.

00:52:58.000 Yeah, basically, he would have been really upset about it.

00:53:01.000 Yeah, we would have been annoyed that it happened, but more annoyed at the nature of how it unfolded.

00:53:05.000 Less so that it happened, probably, than the tone and tenor of it.

00:53:10.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:53:11.000 But then the question is, the second aspect of this is, would it have risen to the level of what all of these, you know, this caterwalling cacophony of whatever, you know, Greek choir saying, now turning point must do this.

00:53:28.000 No, exactly.

00:53:29.000 So this is what I want to.

00:53:30.000 This is a good point because it kind of reminds me of the underlying issue itself, which is Israel.

00:53:35.000 And I say this time and again.

00:53:37.000 It's like the world wants to force you into one of two buckets.

00:53:41.000 Pro or anti.

00:53:43.000 In my opinion, there is about a hundred iterations between those two polar extremes.

00:53:49.000 And yes, I think I expressed this the first time we talked about it, Blake.

00:53:53.000 You could be disappointed in the way somebody talks about it, but to or conducts an interview.

00:53:58.000 But to Tyler's point, while respecting the relationship and the friendship that is authentic, and by the way, I have a friendship with Tucker.

00:54:06.000 I'm sure many of us do.

00:54:08.000 And it's like, you know, I have a personal, you know, friendship with him.

00:54:13.000 I actually really like the guy on a personal level.

00:54:15.000 And so you got to contend with that.

00:54:17.000 And beyond that is to understand that we, exactly, Tyler, Charlie has barely been gone from us.

00:54:24.000 And to think that we are in a position where that feels morally right to sort of upset the apple cart and change something that was so fundamental and so publicly expressed multiple times and privately expressed about these are his wishes.

00:54:40.000 This is his organization.

00:54:42.000 He built this.

00:54:43.000 And if somebody thinks that you're going to emotionally coerce us or morally blackmail us to do something, especially this soon afterwards, like, you know, go pound sand, honestly.

00:54:54.000 And we're all sitting there.

00:54:55.000 But look where we are.

00:54:56.000 But here's the thing.

00:54:58.000 I also love those people that are frustrated about that.

00:55:02.000 And so it's like, listen, we are, when the whole movement is fighting against itself, then we're not going to win elections.

00:55:10.000 We're not going to be focused on taking ground or taking territory.

00:55:14.000 It's just going to be all some giant distraction.

00:55:16.000 And I reject the premise in a general sense.

00:55:19.000 No, I was just going to say, I mean, guys, let's zoom out for a second.

00:55:23.000 We know where we are.

00:55:24.000 Look where we're sitting right now.

00:55:25.000 This is the Charlie Kirk studio.

00:55:27.000 This is the Charlie Kirk chair.

00:55:28.000 It's the Bitcoin.com Charlie Kirk's studio.

00:55:30.000 Hey.

00:55:31.000 Got to get back to that.

00:55:34.000 But no, it's Charlie's chair.

00:55:35.000 And we leave the chair empty for a reason.

00:55:37.000 We leave the chair empty out of honor for our friend.

00:55:41.000 And that's the reason that it's there.

00:55:45.000 And what was it?

00:55:47.000 Not even two months yet?

00:55:49.000 It's not even two months.

00:55:50.000 And we're sitting here going through all of this.

00:55:54.000 And then people are coming in trying to make demands and trying to make people say, oh, you know, this is about, you know, this is about what are you going to do?

00:56:02.000 It's like, well, how about we're just going to honor Charlie's wishes?

00:56:05.000 How about, yeah, how about you?

00:56:07.000 How about we're going to do that?

00:56:08.000 No, not even that.

00:56:08.000 We're just going to do our best to try our best.

00:56:11.000 Unless it's curious because it's like, that's what, that's the world in which we're living in right now.

00:56:15.000 It's like everyone literally just trying to do their best to not speak for Charlie.

00:56:21.000 You know, you just don't do that to the dead.

00:56:23.000 You don't do that to those who have moved on.

00:56:25.000 That's right.

00:56:26.000 You try to live up to the standard that they left the expectations that you know that he had for you and that you have for yourself.

00:56:36.000 By the way, how about this?

00:56:38.000 How about you pick up a phone and you call people instead of trying to just tweeting at them or even get or even better, get to work, do something productive.

00:56:47.000 That's what I've said back to myself.

00:56:49.000 But here's the thing.

00:56:49.000 It's like, do something productive.

00:56:50.000 Again, I had this old pastor friend.

00:56:53.000 He actually married my wife and I at our wedding.

00:56:57.000 But he used to say, the meaning of life is relationship.

00:57:00.000 Relationship with God, relationship with one another.

00:57:03.000 And I so believe that, actually, because, you know, and when we talk about this, we're talking about it in the context of, like I said, I have a friendship with Tucker.

00:57:14.000 Charlie has a friendship with had a friendship with Tucker.

00:57:17.000 Jack, you have a friendship with Tucker.

00:57:18.000 Blake, you have a friendship.

00:57:19.000 That has not precluded any of us to say, wish the interview would have maybe been a little bit different.

00:57:24.000 But the point is, is that these things are done in the context of a relationship.

00:57:29.000 And we also like, forgive us our trespasses, you know, Lord, you know, as we forgive those who trespass against us.

00:57:35.000 But forgive us first.

00:57:37.000 Yeah, and by the way, and by the way, like, I don't have a relationship with Nick Fuentes.

00:57:41.000 I've never met the guy.

00:57:43.000 So, and by the way, it's always been contentious, but I do have one with some of these people that we're talking about.

00:57:48.000 And that means something to me.

00:57:49.000 So, listen, and by the way, that means something to me when I'm talking about some of the evangelicals that are upset or some of the Jewish friends that are upset.

00:57:57.000 I get it.

00:57:58.000 This is contentious stuff.

00:57:59.000 But, like, instead of just going for the, you know, you can't even say that.

00:58:04.000 Can't even say it.

00:58:04.000 I know.

00:58:05.000 I was about to say that.

00:58:07.000 And it's like, oh, right.

00:58:08.000 Go in for the clickbait.

00:58:11.000 Clickbait.

00:58:12.000 Instead of going for cheap clicks or blowing up relationships or blowing up coalitions, I talked about this all the time with Charlie.

00:58:20.000 And actually, I didn't talk about it all the time.

00:58:22.000 It became a very, very important conversation probably two weeks before he died.

00:58:27.000 Charlie and I had like an hour-long conversation about this.

00:58:30.000 I'll never forget it.

00:58:31.000 And it was based off of a bunch of texts we sent back and forth to each other.

00:58:36.000 And then we talked about it.

00:58:37.000 And it was basically putting a hierarchy of the virtues as the Greeks had them.

00:58:43.000 And he was basically saying, listen, anybody can tear down.

00:58:47.000 Anybody can be an ankle biter.

00:58:50.000 Anybody for performative clickbait measures, just say crazy stuff.

00:58:54.000 Okay.

00:58:55.000 And but what is much rarer in the higher of the virtues is being a philosopher, being a statesman, being a coalition builder.

00:59:03.000 And he was very, very clear that the mission of Turning Point is to not be ankle biters, not to be performative social media artists, is none of that stuff.

00:59:12.000 It's to be coalition builders and statesmen and philosophers.

00:59:15.000 And by God's grace, we are going to pursue that mission on Charlie's behalf and on Turning Point's behalf and for the country's behalf because listen, like there's a lot of people that want to tear each other down.

00:59:28.000 And I'm just like, again, I'm going to say it.

00:59:29.000 I'm going to reject the premise.

00:59:31.000 I'm rejecting the premise.

00:59:32.000 And we're going to try and keep the darned coalition together if it's the last darn thing any of us do.

00:59:36.000 And there's something that Tyler said that it just has to be brought up, the timing of this, is they launched all of this at the time we were having an election.

00:59:46.000 At the time that we were having a contentious election, a couple of key races.

00:59:49.000 So we just talked about Mamdani in New York City.

00:59:52.000 We just talked about Jersey.

00:59:53.000 Well, I mean, we've been talking about Jersey.

00:59:55.000 We've been talking about Virginia, et cetera.

00:59:56.000 Jay Jones, by the way, talking about political violence, right?

01:00:00.000 What is it, 1.5 million people just voted for a guy who said he wants to kill our kids?

01:00:04.000 So that's, yeah, that's great.

01:00:05.000 So we're supposed to unite with those people now.

01:00:07.000 We're supposed to harmonize with them.

01:00:09.000 And all of these people spent their time infighting, spent their time ankle biting, attacking, you know, attacking one another and doing this infighting.

01:00:20.000 What were they not doing?

01:00:21.000 Talking to their followers about going out and getting involved in the race.

01:00:27.000 Some were telling their followers to actively not vote.

01:00:27.000 Some were talking about that.

01:00:32.000 It's just like, it's ridiculous.

01:00:34.000 And guys, we've seen this before.

01:00:34.000 It's ridiculous.

01:00:35.000 I mean, we've been tracking this for a long time.

01:00:37.000 We just went through an entire election cycle where there are people that were adjacent.

01:00:43.000 I'm not going to say grapers in total and totality here, but adjacent to Roypers. 0.99

01:00:50.000 But there were many of these people too that were Nick followers who were telling people actively not to vote.

01:00:55.000 This is not a new thing.

01:00:57.000 This is, and it's weird.

01:00:58.000 It's not weird to me.

01:00:59.000 Everything happens for a reason.

01:01:01.000 But isn't it weird that this happened just a few weeks before this election?

01:01:08.000 I mean, I'm just going to tell you, I'm not going to be the conspiracy theorist here, but I do believe there's a lot of funding and a lot of pushing and pulling.

01:01:17.000 And some of this is organic.

01:01:18.000 Some of it is not organic, where there is actual pushing to try to harm Republicans in elections, leading up to elections on this stuff.

01:01:27.000 I don't disagree.

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01:02:39.000 I want to at least play the EBT videos.

01:02:41.000 Yeah, let's do EBT.

01:02:43.000 We got to do EBT.

01:02:44.000 EBT, like, that's a fan favorite, too, by the way.

01:02:46.000 This has been one that we've been talking about doing for a long time, a topic that we wanted to hit.

01:02:52.000 You should drive.

01:02:53.000 You should drive EBT.

01:02:54.000 So, Blake, what is EBTs of TikTok?

01:02:58.000 So, obviously, we already have Libs of TikTok.

01:03:00.000 Chaya Raychik was a big pioneer of highlighting.

01:03:03.000 However, you say it.

01:03:04.000 I don't know these names.

01:03:07.000 Yeah, anyway.

01:03:08.000 So, Haya, Haya, whatever.

01:03:10.000 It's like Chanika. 0.60

01:03:11.000 Chanika.

01:03:14.000 Look, I don't, I'm not from New York to the Middle East.

01:03:18.000 Anyway.

01:03:19.000 It's Hebrew, right?

01:03:21.000 Chanika.

01:03:22.000 All right, go ahead.

01:03:23.000 Anyway, she pioneered people will post shockingly bad videos of themselves on TikTok being insane.

01:03:23.000 Go ahead.

01:03:31.000 And also, just social media has been great.

01:03:33.000 I think people have learned a lot about the true nature of like crime in America just from social media.

01:03:38.000 They've learned a lot about what life is really like in a lot of parts of American society they're not a part of.

01:03:43.000 And what we've had with the freak out over SNAP funding, over EBT possibly being, well, I guess actually being suspended now with the government shutdown ongoing is people have gotten a direct encounter with how some Americans who are on government programs basically relate to these government programs.

01:04:02.000 Both, you know, SNAP supplementary nutritional assistance program, the idea, you know, food stamps, the idea, you know, you're using these to get what you need to survive.

01:04:10.000 And what people are learning is there's a lot of people who are on SNAP who don't work and don't really want to work and feel entitled to not work.

01:04:18.000 There are people who have figured out the not exceptionally difficult task of converting food stamps into literally anything else you want to buy stamps and all of that.

01:04:28.000 And we have amazing clips of them doing this.

01:04:30.000 And they're on TikTok.

01:04:31.000 And then they're uploaded to Twitch so that those of us who aren't on TikTok are too much.

01:04:34.000 To your point, though, by the way, this isn't just something we're talking about because this is something that Charlie talked about.

01:04:39.000 Let's play clip 323. 0.57

01:04:42.000 The number one objective of any social welfare program should be how do we keep the family together and put dads back in the family. 0.89

01:04:49.000 Unfortunately, in the black community, dads are the most absent of any community.

01:04:53.000 About two-thirds of all black youth will be raised without a stable father around.

01:04:58.000 And I know it's crazy, right?

01:05:01.000 And that little precious angel of yours deserves to have a father around.

01:05:06.000 And unfortunately, as we've removed dads from families, government has come in and has taken the place.

01:05:12.000 So some people need help and they need social assistance.

01:05:15.000 All of that should be about incentivizing the dad staying around, not the dad leaving.

01:05:22.000 Okay, that was Charlie.

01:05:25.000 Now we have the video.

01:05:28.000 Contrast Charlie B. Jar.

01:05:29.000 That's Charlie telling us what we should want in like a country that has, of course, our Christian values and we don't want people to be left behind, et cetera.

01:05:39.000 We all agree with that.

01:05:40.000 So let's go see the people now that have been using Snap Benefits and EBT brought to us courtesy of EBTs of TikTok.

01:05:49.000 Blake, let's do man.

01:05:52.000 There's so many of these and I actually haven't watched most of them yet.

01:05:55.000 How about we just go with let's just go in order 327.

01:05:58.000 Let's do 327.

01:05:59.000 Yeah.

01:05:59.000 So you just can't get your hair done this month.

01:06:02.000 You can't get your nails done this month.

01:06:04.000 And them lashes that you have a little like windshield wipers.

01:06:07.000 Yeah, you got to try to glue them on yourself so you can feed them little raggedy kids of y'all. 0.99

01:06:11.000 That's right.

01:06:12.000 That's right.

01:06:12.000 But that's just being responsible.

01:06:14.000 That's them responsible.

01:06:15.000 But when you do that, bring your ID because then I'm going to be seeing the real you.

01:06:21.000 And I've never seen the real you.

01:06:23.000 So I can know who you are.

01:06:24.000 So I'm going to have some ID because I'm a car because I'm like all that I don't know y'all.

01:06:29.000 I don't know none of y'all because I'm not caring two people today.

01:06:31.000 They're like, Miss V, it's me.

01:06:32.000 Like, who the are you?

01:06:34.000 Talisha.

01:06:38.000 Oh, that's the real you.

01:06:42.000 So I can't tell.

01:06:42.000 Is she on EBT or she's making fun of people who are?

01:06:46.000 making fun of them i think we book her on the show do we have some i want the people yeah 328 And I just really want to know why these restaurants and why these supermarkets aren't giving out free food during this government shutdown.

01:07:04.000 Like, they have food to spare.

01:07:08.000 Very obviously, they have food to spare.

01:07:10.000 They have food that they could give away to people that's affected by this government shutdown.

01:07:16.000 Then when are stealing?

01:07:18.000 Then it's going to be an issue.

01:07:21.000 I really don't get why these companies aren't doing more to help during this government shutdown.

01:07:30.000 It's really, it's really doing something to me.

01:07:34.000 It's really, really doing something to me.

01:07:38.000 I'm going to skip this.

01:07:39.000 3-2-1.

01:07:41.000 And people are going to start.

01:07:42.000 I'm telling you, this is going to be a thing.

01:07:44.000 People are going to start, instead of stealing groceries from the stores, they're going to start watching people go to their cars and they're going to take all of their groceries.

01:07:55.000 And you know what the store are going to do?

01:07:58.000 Not our problem.

01:08:00.000 Oh my gosh.

01:08:02.000 So instead of stealing straight from the grocery stores, people are going to start to parking lots.

01:08:06.000 The parking lot.

01:08:07.000 Which, by the way, that gets us back to the shopping cart theory.

01:08:13.000 Oh, no.

01:08:14.000 Yes.

01:08:15.000 I had some brutal shopping cart moments.

01:08:18.000 You have moments of shopping carts?

01:08:19.000 No, like I was like.

01:08:20.000 Does everyone remember?

01:08:21.000 You guys remember the shopping cart theory?

01:08:22.000 The cultural.

01:08:23.000 The citizen puts back the cart.

01:08:25.000 The citizen puts back the cart.

01:08:28.000 Have you seen the guy that goes around and he slaps magnets on their doors when they don't put their cart?

01:08:32.000 Yeah, he's like, he's like shaming them.

01:08:33.000 Yeah, he shames.

01:08:34.000 Just some bad magnets.

01:08:35.000 I've seen some brutal cart abandonment in some grocery stores lately.

01:08:39.000 Like in the Phoenix area here?

01:08:41.000 Yeah, in the Phoenix area.

01:08:43.000 So this guy does videos and he goes around and he's the cart police or he calls him something.

01:08:49.000 And so he waits and they when they don't put their car away, it's like a big magnet and he slaps down their car when they're driving away.

01:08:57.000 This is like the should put your cart away and people get this is like a more heroic guys.

01:09:02.000 It's like those guys who are just sticks in their car that just says like you you are a like it's like basically a bad citizen for not putting your cart away.

01:09:09.000 Amazing.

01:09:10.000 And they get out of the car and they start screaming like every time.

01:09:12.000 Like everyone.

01:09:12.000 What if they worked that hard at being a human being?

01:09:15.000 No, they spend more energy yelling at this guy than they put in the car away.

01:09:18.000 And he just runs away from it's not even like citizenship versus non-citizen.

01:09:22.000 It's like if you do not put the cart away, you are no better than a mere beast.

01:09:26.000 Wait, there's what separates us from the animals.

01:09:29.000 Wait, guys, there's another clip here.

01:09:31.000 It says, so 321 is like double printed on the clip sheet, but there's one that says complain someone's complaining about having to use their own money.

01:09:40.000 That's 331.

01:09:41.000 Okay, let's hit it.

01:09:42.000 Hit that one.

01:09:43.000 Yeah, them people really didn't give us our stamps.

01:09:47.000 It's like day two.

01:09:48.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:09:49.000 I get my on the first.

01:09:51.000 You know what I mean?

01:09:52.000 I'm first that I'm hot around.

01:09:54.000 This is but it's the second, and I just went to go peek.

01:09:58.000 And I'm like, you know, maybe they would have gave a little sprinkle, sprinkle.

01:10:04.000 My bad.

01:10:08.000 I ain't got no yamps.

01:10:09.000 I just spent cash money on five items at the store.

01:10:13.000 Mind you, it was only $20, but I still got bills to pay.

01:10:16.000 I still got my bills to pay.

01:10:18.000 I'm not trying to spend it on that I'm supposed to be getting food stamps for it.

01:10:22.000 Quit playing with me.

01:10:23.000 Like, what the apparently only about one-third of food stamp houses have children.

01:10:30.000 And part of that is that there's more elderly people on food stamps.

01:10:34.000 Yeah.

01:10:35.000 So there's part of that, but I think there is also just we kind of have a robust pool of Americans who don't really want to work, I guess, or try to work.

01:10:46.000 Well, this is the whole thing with, and you see this with the Obamacare subsidies and healthcare, too.

01:10:50.000 Once you put subsidies in an economy into a marketplace, removing those is almost impossible.

01:10:56.000 It's like an atrocity.

01:10:57.000 People adjust their spending habits to this new reality, right?

01:11:02.000 So if they're entitled and their sense of entitlement.

01:11:06.000 Yeah, but they've gotten a more expensive place to rent or they've got more subscriptions per month or their new TVs or whatever the thing is that their monthly budget now.

01:11:17.000 So you can't pull it back without them feeling like the government and the Republicans and Trump are hurting me.

01:11:22.000 This is essentially what it is.

01:11:23.000 And it's rough because you can basically eventually, you know, eventually you actually go broke and the whole thing falls apart.

01:11:31.000 And there's so many different versions.

01:11:31.000 It's something.

01:11:32.000 And we should be clear: there's versions of this.

01:11:34.000 We can talk about Snap here, but there's also a ton of people.

01:11:38.000 It's like a way of life to get on Social Security disability that you don't need to be elderly for.

01:11:42.000 You get yourself basically classed as disabled.

01:11:45.000 You live on whatever they pay out to you, which doesn't have to be that much.

01:11:48.000 But if you, you know, live with a family member and you're okay not doing much with your life, you can make 15K go pretty far.

01:11:57.000 And so there's people who live on that.

01:11:59.000 There's, especially in like states like California or New York, there's all these additional state programs you can milk along.

01:12:06.000 Oh, yeah.

01:12:06.000 And by the way, I'll never forget.

01:12:08.000 So I actually are in California, had our daughter.

01:12:14.000 So, and a guy that apparently, I didn't realize this.

01:12:19.000 So he was one of the workers that was working next door on a construction, so on a house, a renovation next door.

01:12:27.000 And I would see him kind of because this renovation went on for like six months.

01:12:30.000 So I would see him next door.

01:12:31.000 I'd say, hey, you know, here and there.

01:12:33.000 Anyway, so we're at the hospital and we have our kid.

01:12:38.000 And down the hall is this Mexican dude who doesn't really speak much English, also at the hospital having his own kid.

01:12:46.000 And so my wife, knowing that these guys are, you know, probably a little bit poor, she said, you should go offer to buy them like some meals or something like that.

01:12:56.000 We should be good neighbors, right?

01:12:58.000 So I go out and I start talking to this guy because my wife thinks I speak really good Spanish.

01:13:02.000 I lived in Spain and college just study abroad.

01:13:04.000 So I start talking to him and I say, hey, Andrew song, hit the Andrew song.

01:13:08.000 Are you guys doing okay?

01:13:09.000 Can we help you?

01:13:10.000 My wife wants to help since we saw you at the hospital.

01:13:13.000 And the guy goes, oh, no, no.

01:13:15.000 Like my wife's an American citizen, but since I'm like an immigrant, that the state of California has paid for all of our hospital bills and they've given us a monthly stipend.

01:13:26.000 And so like we're doing great.

01:13:27.000 My wife took care of all of it. 0.96

01:13:28.000 And I was like, so wait, there's this immigrant here that's here illegally apparently, but he's married to an American.

01:13:34.000 So it's like it's pretty, you know, this was their first kid, right?

01:13:37.000 And it all happened.

01:13:38.000 Yes.

01:13:39.000 Yes.

01:13:41.000 And that's my Andrew theme.

01:13:43.000 I love that that's the Andrew theme.

01:13:45.000 So this guy, he's getting all these government subsidies and benefits for simply having a kid and being an illegal. 0.59

01:13:51.000 And, you know, and here we are trying to do a good Christian thing, trying to help him out.

01:13:57.000 And my tax dollars were already going to this gentleman and his newborn American citizen kid.

01:14:05.000 It was pretty shocking, actually, because I just thought, you know, that's kind of frustrating.

01:14:10.000 Pretty frustrating that our labor and our toil is going to this guy.

01:14:13.000 He's a nice guy, whatever.

01:14:14.000 It's just, but the whole system's pretty frustrating like that, Blake.

01:14:19.000 It's just.

01:14:20.000 You articulate it well.

01:14:22.000 Sometimes they'll just do like the two Americas thing.

01:14:25.000 And there is, there's a lot of people in America who kind of like it's become a lifestyle to find different ways of being on the dole.

01:14:36.000 And it's like people don't even occur, like obvious things.

01:14:40.000 So you can like people will take like there's a pretty well-developed economy for swapping SNAP, swapping EBT benefits for monetary equivalent things at, you know, some small rate of depreciation on it.

01:14:55.000 And, or like underground economies for selling shoplifted goods.

01:15:00.000 There's places where it's just routine, like, oh, I can get this good cheaper because someone is going to shoplift it for me.

01:15:05.000 People will make requests.

01:15:06.000 They'll make requests for something to be shoplifted for them and then they'll buy it more cheaply.

01:15:10.000 And there's this whole, you know, in the kind of the underclass of American life where this happens.

01:15:16.000 And having a nicer country, you can't just write off the underclass because everything's on a spectrum.

01:15:21.000 How nice your city is to live in is heavily dependent on how quality or low quality like your bottom 5% of people are.

01:15:31.000 Are they just, you know, do they have lower end jobs or do they have no jobs at all?

01:15:36.000 Are they basically like, are the criminal people locked up or are they kind of allowed to roam freely and detach people?

01:15:42.000 All of these things make a difference in how quality your life is.

01:15:45.000 And, you know, the SNAP EBT stuff does matter.

01:15:47.000 It matters a lot whether people on the lower end are purely kind of just living off government money or if they are working some kind of job.

01:15:57.000 Well, and then in the vein of that, let's play Clip 329.

01:16:03.000 It's so crazy that the president have a felony.

01:16:06.000 Your baby daddy had a felony, but he can't have no job.

01:16:10.000 And that's how people got to be on food stamps because baby daddy can't get no job because he got felonies and that requires you to go get on food stamps, right?

01:16:23.000 Wait, felons?

01:16:24.000 Wait, felons can get food stamps?

01:16:27.000 I'm sure.

01:16:29.000 Well, she's getting the food stamps.

01:16:30.000 Her baby.

01:16:30.000 She was getting them.

01:16:31.000 She's saying that her baby daddy can't get a job or some hypothetical baby daddy.

01:16:35.000 I'm not sure if it was hers specifically.

01:16:37.000 But lots of.

01:16:40.000 Well, we saw this after COVID because COVID is just all subsidies galore.

01:16:46.000 And by the way, that was another feeding frenzy thing where it was, oh, we'll help your small business. 0.57

01:16:52.000 And it pretty quickly, the word got around of no one's seriously checking this.

01:16:58.000 Make your super basic business that's a limo service or something, some sort of job that's like easy to have one employee in.

01:17:05.000 And you can get $10,000 and it'll be written off later.

01:17:09.000 Some of these guys are.

01:17:10.000 And we see this in other things.

01:17:11.000 Immigration is so full of that. 1.00

01:17:13.000 The word got out circa 2020 again with TikTok and everything.

01:17:17.000 Do these things and you can get past the Border Patrol in the U.S. You know, say you're under 18, even if you're over.

01:17:23.000 We have tons of accounts of 30-year-olds ending up in high schools.

01:17:27.000 You know, you can say one of these five stories will make you have a credible asylum claim, and then you'll get a court hearing.

01:17:34.000 It'll be a while from now, and no one will follow up if you don't show up to it.

01:17:37.000 So the word gets out on how to exploit the system.

01:17:41.000 And in far too many things, we have a system that was basically the honor system.

01:17:46.000 And, you know, it might have worked when honor had a lot of currency in America, and now it doesn't.

01:17:52.000 Yeah, this is also, by the way, it gets us back to the Mamdani, right? 1.00

01:17:57.000 It gets us because if we're going to import Gimmigrans to this country, that's the song, then, and who don't have that same sense of honor in their home cultures, who don't even have the concept of earning in their culture because they only have a concept of obtaining and receiving and having. 1.00

01:18:16.000 Well, or, you know, a grievance-based ideology of hating.

01:18:23.000 Because white Europeans have been such a vile scourge upon the world for so many centuries now that we have to take back what was. 1.00

01:18:30.000 Then all of these systems completely fall apart.

01:18:33.000 However, however, there may be a little bit of a silver lining here, perhaps some hope, because this is going to flip the entire conversation around.

01:18:41.000 Play Clip 122.

01:18:43.000 This program is keeping a lot of people unmarried, uneducated, don't want to, you know, do anything that will hinder the opportunity with their chance to lose their benefits.

01:18:56.000 Only in America do we have people that have $1,200 iPhones checking to see if their snap benefits hit.

01:19:05.000 Anyone who's on welfare, not for a disability, but because they can't provide for themselves, should not have the ability to vote in our society. 1.00

01:19:11.000 I don't have kids.

01:19:16.000 There's no way that I have kids and I'm waiting on somebody else to feed them.

01:19:23.000 So there you go.

01:19:25.000 Perhaps there's a silver lining that some people are actually pointing out that, no, these programs are big problems.

01:19:31.000 And how many times did Charlie point out that the Great Society program, which goes back to his much maligned criticism of LBJ's 1960s programs, has completely destroyed certain communities in this country by bringing in big government, which goes back to the original turning point slogan of big gov sucks, that big government becomes dad and therefore you don't need dad.

01:19:56.000 It destroys the families because it destroys your, it kind of destroys your ability or your incentive to behave responsibly, right?

01:20:03.000 So if the government's going to come in and backstop you on everything, then it creates moral hazard, right?

01:20:08.000 Why would you behave responsibly if you know the government's just going to give you everything?

01:20:11.000 Yeah.

01:20:12.000 And they're all on iPhones.

01:20:13.000 And I'm just going to say, and by the way, can I just say this?

01:20:17.000 Okay, I'm just going to say it.

01:20:18.000 I'm just going to say it.

01:20:19.000 None of them look particularly hungry to me.

01:20:22.000 They don't look particularly needy.

01:20:24.000 That's if you want a glowy brain thing.

01:20:26.000 No one in America is actually like no one starves to death in America, which is nice.

01:20:31.000 Starvation was a thing that happened.

01:20:33.000 I'm glad we don't.

01:20:34.000 In many countries in the past, America's main problem among healthy young people is extreme obesity.

01:20:40.000 Many of those countries, by the way, embrace the same policies of like, I don't know, Zora Mondani or Joseph Stalin.

01:20:46.000 Yeah, and we don't have starvation.

01:20:49.000 So like they always have to define it down.

01:20:51.000 So now they call it hunger.

01:20:53.000 And if you dig into what they label as, you know, hunger, they'll talk about food insecurity.

01:20:58.000 And it'll be things like a lot of people, they don't know where their next meal will come from.

01:21:03.000 I don't know where my next meal is going to come from.

01:21:05.000 My fridge is empty right now.

01:21:06.000 Well, that's a particular blake.

01:21:08.000 Yeah, that's me being a weird person.

01:21:12.000 I think this is a good place to wrap up because if you insert this stuff into the culture, it's so difficult to extract it.

01:21:19.000 And one of the things that I love when you talk about is the you probably got some of this during the Great Depression and the New Deal, right, Democrats.

01:21:28.000 But then in the 60s, again, you had this new wave of government subsidies and handouts and welfare programs.

01:21:36.000 Explain the difference between before and after, the American psychology of what it meant to take welfare and the honor and the dishonor that that was.

01:21:45.000 And then after, how long did that happen?

01:21:46.000 Well, one of the saddest things, one of the saddest things in hindsight to read is when they're rolling out the Great Society, which is LBJ's big welfare state thing, they would run into the problem that a lot of Americans would, out of pride, refuse to sign up for government programs.

01:22:05.000 It was considered shameful to go on the dole.

01:22:09.000 And when you think of how immensely successful America was for so long, you've got to think a society where it is shameful to go on the dole is probably going to be more successful than one where there is no shame.

01:22:23.000 We all know that.

01:22:24.000 When there's no shame about being dependent on other people, to be dependent on the collective, then people are more likely to do it.

01:22:32.000 And when you do that, it's a habit that you sink into.

01:22:37.000 And one of the most important parts of maturity, and that a lot of people realize when they grow up, is you kind of, you become what you are based on what your habits are, what you do every single day.

01:22:48.000 And if it is a habit, if it is a habit to take advantage of every way of getting free money, then it can become a habit to exploit this or to get as much of it as possible and to avoid other socially beneficial ways of making money.

01:23:07.000 In the long run, you just have a worse society, a worse country.

01:23:10.000 But I'm just going to, like, it still comes back, though, to mass immigration because there are parts of the world where what we would consider scamming, what we would consider gaming the system, lying for benefit are not necessarily considered shameful at all.

01:23:27.000 Yeah, or at least certainly when abstracted out.

01:23:29.000 A big thing that is not universal is this sort of sense of general obligations towards all of society or like the state apparatus.

01:23:39.000 There are a lot of people who come from societies that are that are insular and clannish.

01:23:43.000 And so you couldn't cheat your brother, your cousin, yeah, your person who's in your group in Afghanistan.

01:23:51.000 But you can do anything to someone who's outside of that group.

01:23:54.000 And that's the historical norm.

01:23:55.000 That's how probably everybody was 10,000 years ago.

01:23:59.000 It was a rough process to change that.

01:24:00.000 One of my buddies who was deployed to Afghanistan, I remember we were having this conversation just talking about the cultural differences, Eastern, Western.

01:24:09.000 And he was saying that in America, it's considered corrupt for you to hire your family from a government position and give them contracts and take care of your family.

01:24:21.000 That's because you're corrupt.

01:24:22.000 In Afghanistan, if you don't hire your family and give them public contracts and public funds, you'd be considered corrupt.

01:24:33.000 Well, you're totally right about immigration because America, you talk about historic levels of excellence and success as a society.

01:24:43.000 And we basically, either it was hubris or it was ideological rot that was creeping in.

01:24:48.000 And you talk about this with the, what do you call it, the blue banana.

01:24:51.000 And maybe you can explain this, but essentially, most of the world's progress and innovation has come from a very tiny slice.

01:24:59.000 A very tiny slice of civilization.

01:25:02.000 Yeah, I think the blue banana is specifically like an area of high urbanization, but you don't need to zoom it out a lot.

01:25:06.000 And it's basically London to London.

01:25:09.000 It's like London to London to Florence, basically.

01:25:12.000 London to Florence.

01:25:13.000 You can track most of the good things in the world from this region.

01:25:16.000 A lot of them.

01:25:17.000 Yeah, just a huge amount.

01:25:19.000 But basically, instead of going with respect, we're not going to screw these places up because they're too precious to humanity.

01:25:26.000 We go, let's just import a bunch of people that have no idea what the heck that culture is or where it came from.

01:25:32.000 Some of this is self-inflicted because one of the traits of sort of that is like a universalizing outlook on life.

01:25:37.000 A persistent, a persistent arrogance of a lot of arrogance of like, you know, historically like English, German, like European peoples is sort of the assumption that everyone is innately like them.

01:25:50.000 This is still a critique we make of liberals.

01:25:52.000 They like assume everyone in the world is sort of a Brooklyn liberal waiting to like come out after you like chip away at everything.

01:26:02.000 Yeah, well, that is kind of the liberal assumption that people are inherently good.

01:26:08.000 People are inherently good.

01:26:09.000 But that is not actually biblical.

01:26:11.000 Biblical is that we were made good and that we fell and that there's evil in the world and then we need to sort of repent from the evil.

01:26:17.000 That is actually the biblical view of human nature is that we were made good, made in God's image, but then there is a fall.

01:26:24.000 Evil's inserted to the world, so you have to deal with evil.

01:26:26.000 This is why we have police.

01:26:27.000 This is why we have locks on our door.

01:26:29.000 This is why the 2A crowd is ascendant, really.

01:26:34.000 But here's the point, though.

01:26:36.000 America is kind of like in the 20th century, maybe even the 19th century, is the blue banana writ large.

01:26:43.000 It's sort of like the innovation came from this country.

01:26:46.000 And instead of having a respect for the primordial goo that makes up this country, the foundational elements, the societal core, the culture and the character, we've just said, oh, screw it.

01:26:58.000 We're going to open the doors and throw open the doors.

01:27:00.000 There's a line, I think, from some French leftist, but I can't remember for sure, that is like, behind any great fortune is a great crime. 0.87

01:27:07.000 And this is basically a very third world outlook to have.

01:27:10.000 It's so low.

01:27:10.000 It's a world that's so funny.

01:27:12.000 It's a world that is zero sum.

01:27:14.000 It's a world where there is not like progress and industry and modern stuff.

01:27:18.000 And it kind of is a world that often makes sense if you're from a backward society. 0.72

01:27:21.000 Yeah, if you're from a society where everyone is kind of roughly equally leveled and all of your wealth just sort of probably comes from like being a renter, a rentier, like an owner.

01:27:31.000 Like, yeah, you might have to do something pretty bad to get a great fortune.

01:27:33.000 This is like an idiotic book, Guns, Germs, and Steel.

01:27:36.000 Was it Jared Diamond?

01:27:37.000 Jared Diamond.

01:27:38.000 Jared Diamond.

01:27:38.000 It's so stupid.

01:27:39.000 But in real life, it's like, okay, actually, no, if you wanted, behind a great fortune, if you're in America in 1955, what's behind your fortune?

01:27:48.000 Probably that you or someone in your family developed and created something of enormous value to millions of people.

01:27:57.000 So you enhanced the Besimer process for developing steel.

01:28:01.000 You figured out a way to sell ice cream to millions of people and you could make it in a factory.

01:28:06.000 There's the blue banana, by the way.

01:28:07.000 It's innately that like wealth coming from value creation.

01:28:11.000 And the more value you create, the more benefits that accrue to you.

01:28:15.000 And that is the winning combination that worked in America at its peak, that worked in the UK at its peak, that worked in a lot of countries when they're peaking.

01:28:23.000 And it's actually why, you know, China is rising now.

01:28:25.000 And China's gotten better at adding value to things.

01:28:27.000 That's why Charlie loved Elon Musk, candidly.

01:28:30.000 Because instead of making wealth selling financial instruments and pieces of paper and finding a way to exploit or predict the market, he's actually making physical objects.

01:28:39.000 Yeah, he developed an incredibly innovative electric car.

01:28:42.000 I have one.

01:28:43.000 Developed incredibly innovative.

01:28:45.000 He's like, I'm going to build rockets and I'm going to make them affordable.

01:28:48.000 And I'm going to put the internet in space.

01:28:51.000 It was almost an accident, a side effect.

01:28:53.000 Oh, we need to figure out how to make money off of this.

01:28:55.000 That he puts thousands of satellites in orbit.

01:28:57.000 And now, oh, you can actually just get Wi-Fi anywhere on Earth.

01:29:00.000 I need you to explain this to me.

01:29:01.000 Apparently, now there's a yellow and green banana.

01:29:05.000 Oh, they're making new bananas all the time.

01:29:06.000 This feels very leftist.

01:29:08.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:29:08.000 Where they have to be incorporated incorporating.

01:29:11.000 No, no, no, because it's because industrialization and urbanization has spread across Europe now from the original blue banana.

01:29:17.000 All right.

01:29:18.000 Blake, do you have an answer here?

01:29:19.000 Are you still?

01:29:20.000 Well, I'm looking at now.

01:29:21.000 My screen is I have one of those dumbbells.

01:29:23.000 The original definition of the blue banana was.

01:29:25.000 Throw it up when you have it, studio.

01:29:27.000 But we should wrap it.

01:29:28.000 Yeah, well, so part of this, by the way, the reason I feel like that is the blue banana is actually mostly a historically like urbanized zone.

01:29:34.000 That has always been a very high population density.

01:29:36.000 And so now you have these other big cities is what's going on there.

01:29:39.000 But it also, that historical blue banana is also just, if you look at, you know, you can read the history of European science and industry and philosophy and all the big innovations.

01:29:49.000 And they just come, it's not even, they come from Europe. 0.69

01:29:52.000 They come from a remarkably narrow slice of why isn't there?

01:29:55.000 Not many.

01:29:56.000 Why isn't Rome in it?

01:29:58.000 I mean, Rome actually hasn't been that great since Rome isn't.

01:30:01.000 Rome is where the church is held back innovation.

01:30:04.000 Northern Italy is where the really dynamic scientist types are coming from.

01:30:10.000 Yeah, like Galileo works.

01:30:12.000 He works in Pisa, I think.

01:30:14.000 Oh, is it Pisa?

01:30:15.000 Has anyone here actually had a real blue banana, though?

01:30:17.000 Those things are supposed to be delicious.

01:30:19.000 That's a thing?

01:30:20.000 I think I may have in Guama.

01:30:22.000 It's called a Blue Java banana.

01:30:23.000 Yeah, one of the broken bananas.

01:30:24.000 Galileo, born in Pisa.

01:30:26.000 Wait, time out.

01:30:26.000 This is really important.

01:30:27.000 I want to talk about my time in Asia more and all the things I experienced.

01:30:30.000 It allegedly tastes like vanilla ice cream.

01:30:33.000 I really want.

01:30:34.000 They're really excited.

01:30:34.000 The one that I had in Guam did not taste like vanilla ice cream.

01:30:36.000 I've never heard of this.

01:30:37.000 Look it up.

01:30:38.000 I have no Java banana.

01:30:40.000 It's more of like maroon.

01:30:41.000 A blue Java banana.

01:30:42.000 And you keep talking about Java bananas.

01:30:44.000 We have to wrap now.

01:30:45.000 A blue Java banana.

01:30:47.000 Here's the deal.

01:30:49.000 We had to do this thought crime to cleanse ourselves of many things, including the election, some of the controversies.

01:30:58.000 Except for Arizona.

01:30:59.000 Except for Arizona.

01:31:00.000 Well done, Turning Point Action.

01:31:02.000 And in New Hampshire.

01:31:04.000 You want to take us home?

01:31:06.000 No, I think we learned a lot.

01:31:07.000 I think tonight was a good conversation.

01:31:09.000 I think tonight we had some important conversations.

01:31:11.000 EBT is a TikTok, by the way, that's on Twitter.

01:31:13.000 So give them, I have no idea who runs it.

01:31:15.000 Give them a follow.

01:31:16.000 That looks like a great account.

01:31:18.000 I love these like archive cartnarks.

01:31:21.000 Is that what it's called?

01:31:22.000 Yeah.

01:31:22.000 Oh, I love that name.

01:31:24.000 And oh, by the way, throw it up.

01:31:25.000 342 for Tyler.

01:31:30.000 There we go.

01:31:30.000 There she is.

01:31:31.000 Arizona.

01:31:32.000 So, Rhino patrolled Dorian Taylor is now on the Mesa City Council.

01:31:39.000 Yeah, that's great.

01:31:40.000 That's great.

01:31:41.000 It is.

01:31:41.000 It's a big win.

01:31:42.000 It's a big win because, guess what?

01:31:43.000 Yeah, if she wouldn't have won, do you have any idea?

01:31:48.000 We had Politico, New York Times, all these people, they would have stomped all over us.

01:31:52.000 New York Times did follow our Dorian.

01:31:55.000 They would have rifted on the grave of Charlie Kirk and said, they absolutely would have used it as an opportunity to tarnish Charlie.

01:32:01.000 So God was watching out for me.

01:32:03.000 Guys, if we could play the, and as we go out, could we just play the new theme song of thought crime?

01:32:10.000 I need it louder.

01:32:11.000 I need it louder.

01:32:12.000 I need more.

01:32:12.000 Charlie more.

01:32:13.000 Let's get it out.

01:32:13.000 Charlie would be very upset right now.

01:32:15.000 Charlie would force us to go out on classical music.

01:32:19.000 You know he would.

01:32:20.000 I think Charlie liked Tika Masala.

01:32:22.000 I think.

01:32:22.000 Well, it's fine.

01:32:24.000 Everybody likes Tika Masala.

01:32:25.000 It's an export. 0.93

01:32:26.000 It's an export from the blue banana.

01:32:28.000 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, go out there and commit more thought crime. 0.96

The Charlie Kirk Show - November 08, 2025

THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 104 — Post-Election Palette Cleanser + Tucker-Fuentes Interview Reaction

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