The Charlie Kirk Show - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 105 — Woman-Free Miitary? End All H-1Bs? November Christmas Decorations?

00:00:03.000 My name is Charlie Kirk.

00:00:05.000 I run the largest pro-American student organization in the country fighting for the future of our republic.

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00:00:24.000 College is a scam, everybody.

00:00:26.000 You got to stop sending your kids to college.

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00:00:48.000 Buckle up, everybody.

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00:01:10.000 Welcome to Thursday's Thought Crime.

00:01:10.000 All right.

00:01:13.000 And we have Cliff Maloney in the house.

00:01:18.000 Not in the big house, but the house, in the studio.

00:01:21.000 You could be in a big house.

00:01:22.000 It's great to be here.

00:01:24.000 We got Mikey McCoy also in studio.

00:01:26.000 A lot of people from Pennsylvania are in a big house. 0.98

00:01:29.000 That is true.

00:01:31.000 It's a national pastime of you Pennsylvanians, but that's fine.

00:01:34.000 We also have Blake Neff.

00:01:37.000 He's in studio in D.C.

00:01:39.000 And then we have Jack Pisobic in an undisclosed bunker.

00:01:46.000 That's about all I'm going to say about that.

00:01:47.000 He's on assignment.

00:01:48.000 Yeah, you're on assignment in an undisclosed location.

00:01:52.000 Jack Pisobic, welcome.

00:01:54.000 You mean an undisclosed location somewhere near California?

00:01:59.000 I'm going to be asking a lot of questions.

00:02:02.000 I want to have them answered immediately.

00:02:04.000 Are you running a bot farm in Eastern Europe?

00:02:06.000 Who's your daddy and what does he do?

00:02:09.000 Yes, I'm not running a bot farm.

00:02:11.000 Don't look at the bot farm questions about farm of bots.

00:02:15.000 Is this a Romanian thing?

00:02:16.000 That's what I've heard.

00:02:17.000 Not those questions about Romania.

00:02:21.000 Well, we have a new time here.

00:02:24.000 So we want to hear from you guys in the audience what you think about the new time.

00:02:28.000 Do you like the new time?

00:02:30.000 Do you hate the new time?

00:02:31.000 Are you more likely to watch in the new time?

00:02:33.000 Or are you less likely to watch?

00:02:35.000 And if you are less likely to watch, we don't actually want to hear that.

00:02:37.000 We just want to hear the positive feedback.

00:02:39.000 We want to hear it all because this time works a lot better for a lot of reasons, especially when Jack is East Coast.

00:02:39.000 No, I'm kidding.

00:02:48.000 We're on Mountain Time now in Arizona.

00:02:50.000 Mountain time.

00:02:52.000 And you're often on Pacific time, aren't you?

00:02:54.000 Which is tricky, especially when you have media.

00:02:54.000 Correct.

00:02:57.000 Jack, do you want to?

00:02:58.000 Can I just say since we're going to bring it up, since we're going to bring it up, since we're going to bring it up, East Coast time is the best time, period.

00:03:08.000 There's no question about this.

00:03:09.000 Eastern Standard Time is the best time zone.

00:03:12.000 Look, East Coast is basically like, that's basically like caffeine and Adderall and cocaine and like just, you just drive the world.

00:03:22.000 When you live in the East Coast, you're in that like that New York, Philly, D.C., Florida vector.

00:03:28.000 You're driving the world, right?

00:03:29.000 Not only should East Coast time be the standard time for America, it should be the standard time for the world.

00:03:35.000 Steal a Greenwich meantime away from London. 1.00

00:03:38.000 London's time.

00:03:38.000 It's over.

00:03:39.000 It is time for East Coast supremacy.

00:03:41.000 We have a rule at Citizens Alliance that Eastern Time is the Lord's time. 0.58

00:03:48.000 I will say, you know, what does not get enough respect is Central Time or Mountain Time because then you're kind of like splitting the difference.

00:03:48.000 I don't know about that.

00:03:55.000 Central Time doesn't deserve any respect.

00:03:57.000 Well, I'm just saying, from a quality of life standpoint, it's not as bad as you'd think because, you know, at least you are roughly on the same time zone as the East Coast.

00:04:08.000 You're just one hour behind, so it's not like terrible if you have to do East Coast timing things.

00:04:12.000 But you've got West Coast games when the Dodgers are in the World Series and you're watching the World Series on West Coast time.

00:04:19.000 This is not be so late at night.

00:04:21.000 Even when they announce it, they say the game's at 8 Eastern, 5 Pacific.

00:04:24.000 They just skip over every other time zone.

00:04:27.000 But Cliff, Cliff, go with me on this.

00:04:30.000 Imagine if all the West Coast stoners had to wake up before the East Coast.

00:04:35.000 They would have no idea what to do.

00:04:38.000 They would be clueless.

00:04:39.000 They would be rudderless.

00:04:41.000 They need the firm, steely-eyed hand of the East Coast to set the way.

00:04:47.000 With all the bad complexions.

00:04:51.000 The best time zone.

00:04:53.000 The best time zone is pretty simple.

00:04:55.000 It's Arizona time because it is the only time zone in America that is never on daylight savings time, which is this curse and blight upon the peoples of this earth.

00:05:07.000 I'm evolved on this issue.

00:05:08.000 We certainly could.

00:05:10.000 I'm evolved on this issue, as Barack Obama said about gay marriage.

00:05:16.000 I've evolved on this issue, guys.

00:05:18.000 And I actually do think standard time is probably the right time.

00:05:22.000 Blake convinced me on this.

00:05:24.000 It's a Blake thing.

00:05:25.000 Jack had nothing to do with it.

00:05:27.000 No, Blake convinced me first.

00:05:29.000 But you know, it was funny because Politico was writing this up at one point.

00:05:33.000 Did you know there's actually a foundation for keeping us or getting rid of all the daylight savings time?

00:05:40.000 And they were like sending stuff to me and they were like, retweet our stuff.

00:05:44.000 And I was like, hey, this is pretty good.

00:05:46.000 And, you know, they were like pulling up like Bible quotes and different health studies.

00:05:51.000 There are political action committees dedicated to this issue.

00:05:54.000 Yeah, and then Politico wrote it up and they came to me and they were like, did Donald Trump tell you to start tweeting about getting rid of daylight savings time?

00:06:03.000 And I was like, no, but someone did.

00:06:05.000 And they're like, who?

00:06:06.000 Blake Neff.

00:06:08.000 They're like, who is this Blake Neff?

00:06:11.000 Blake, funny, didn't report that part.

00:06:13.000 So here's a question for Blake.

00:06:15.000 So you were living on the East Coast, and then you joined the Charlie Kirk show and you moved to permanently standard time.

00:06:21.000 What was that transition like for you?

00:06:24.000 Did you like it?

00:06:25.000 Well, what's I liked it overall?

00:06:28.000 I do like a kind of funny thing, an artifact of me moving out, is I actually still have my computer on Eastern time because the show is on Eastern time.

00:06:39.000 But it keeps me from getting messed up.

00:06:42.000 Keeps me from getting messed up if I fly somewhere.

00:06:46.000 And I just, I always basically intuitively know, you know, let's just pay attention.

00:06:51.000 What time is it in DC?

00:06:53.000 Because that's where most things are going on.

00:06:55.000 That's where the show time is always on.

00:06:58.000 I do like things generally happening earlier in Arizona.

00:07:03.000 I do think there's this psychotic need to keep everything very late at night out east.

00:07:09.000 So I kind of like that the Super Bowl begins as an afternoon event.

00:07:14.000 I like that the NFL basically is rolling as soon as church is over, even if I go early in the morning. 0.97

00:07:22.000 Yeah, I'm just kind of becoming a sucker for all these things that happen early in the day, which is accentuated by the fact that you're a traitor. 0.99

00:07:29.000 You're a traitor to the East Coast. 0.97

00:07:31.000 It's accentuated by the fact that we don't have devilish daylight savings time in Arizona. 0.95

00:07:42.000 So the sun is rising in the morning as it should.

00:07:46.000 And then it is setting in the evening when we should be preparing to sleep.

00:07:51.000 And so all things are in alignment under Arizona time, whereas the East Coast goes and they rebel against God because they hate God on the East Coast.

00:07:51.000 That's correct.

00:08:01.000 And so they keep on the same.

00:08:02.000 Wait, no, that's the one.

00:08:02.000 But that's the East Coast and the West Coast.

00:08:04.000 And they have dinner.

00:08:06.000 They have dinner at 9 p.m.

00:08:07.000 It's okay.

00:08:08.000 One at a time.

00:08:09.000 And they want to stay up late.

00:08:09.000 One at a time.

00:08:11.000 One last thing.

00:08:12.000 They want to stay up late.

00:08:14.000 They want to stay up late on the East Coast because they want to watch. late night television shows like Jimmy Kimmel that are on very late at night.

00:08:24.000 And this is just part of their general evil dynamic on the East Coast.

00:08:29.000 And yet Jimmy Kimmel is broadcast from the West Coast, Blake.

00:08:33.000 That's a little flying.

00:08:34.000 It doesn't matter.

00:08:36.000 They air late at night for their East Coast audience.

00:08:39.000 It's not where it is recorded.

00:08:41.000 It's spiritually where is the show base.

00:08:44.000 Yeah, so many holes in this argument.

00:08:45.000 I will cheese argument over here.

00:08:49.000 When I go to like New York or D.C. and just the late night of it all is really like an adjustment.

00:08:56.000 Like people on the East Coast stay up way later as a general cultural trend than we do on the West Coast.

00:09:02.000 And I don't love it.

00:09:04.000 I don't love it.

00:09:06.000 No, like when I'm, you're texting me, it's 9 o'clock your time.

00:09:10.000 It's midnight my time.

00:09:11.000 I'm still up.

00:09:13.000 And then I'm hitting that wake up, pray up, GM Christ is king.

00:09:16.000 That's 6.45 a.m.

00:09:18.000 You got to roll.

00:09:19.000 You got to roll.

00:09:20.000 Listen, you know what's funny, though?

00:09:22.000 I just looked at our graphic.

00:09:23.000 They're up 342.

00:09:24.000 This is hilarious to me.

00:09:26.000 So because the show graphic was made in Mountain Time, they included 4 p.m. MT.

00:09:32.000 Like nobody ever includes MT, and I just noticed that.

00:09:36.000 4 p.m. MT.

00:09:37.000 There were people in the comments who were actually correcting it and adding PT because people were like, what is this?

00:09:45.000 Like, who puts MT in the graphic?

00:09:48.000 I don't know who on our team did that.

00:09:51.000 Like, how many states are in the middle of the day?

00:09:52.000 And that's caused.

00:09:55.000 Quite a few.

00:09:55.000 It's a pretty, you know, there's like a lot of states out there.

00:09:58.000 Although, a funny thing is that there's a few.

00:10:00.000 That happens with an MT.

00:10:02.000 A funny thing, if you really want to be intensely pedantic, and I think it's caused issues before when we schedule things, is, you know, we'll send out those emails when we're doing the AMA with subscribers.

00:10:12.000 And technically, even when we're on Pacific time due to daylight savings time being practiced in the heathen lands, we're just always on mountain standard time.

00:10:22.000 That is the official time in Arizona.

00:10:24.000 We're not going back and forth between mountain and Pacific.

00:10:27.000 It's just we're always on MST, Mountain Standard Time.

00:10:30.000 And this totally bamboozles people.

00:10:33.000 This causes no end of trouble, which could all be eliminated if we eliminated the heathen daylight savings time and its rebellion against God, which is the cause of most natural disasters in the United States.

00:10:47.000 I just have this vision of Blake winning the lottery and spending all of the money on lobbying the U.S. government to make everything like Arizona.

00:10:54.000 But Blake, you said I thought Hawaii also doesn't do time change.

00:11:00.000 I think they do.

00:11:01.000 I'm pretty sure Arizona's the only one.

00:11:03.000 Hold on.

00:11:03.000 I think it's Hawaii and Arizona.

00:11:05.000 Did Hawaii change?

00:11:05.000 Maybe who's that?

00:11:06.000 Did Hawaii?

00:11:07.000 That would explain why Hawaii doesn't have bad things happen to it, even though they're really lit.

00:11:11.000 Wait, it just almost burned down Maui, but that's fine.

00:11:14.000 It basically did.

00:11:16.000 But hey, throw up this image. 0.63

00:11:17.000 Okay, Hawaii doesn't observe it.

00:11:19.000 It does not.

00:11:20.000 Hey, you asked a question.

00:11:22.000 You asked a question.

00:11:23.000 We're going to answer it.

00:11:23.000 Look at 343.

00:11:25.000 It's a pretty good map.

00:11:27.000 343.

00:11:28.000 So you got Arizona, which is on mountain time, like part of the time.

00:11:32.000 What we would consider mountain time.

00:11:34.000 You got New Mexico.

00:11:35.000 You've even got Western Texas.

00:11:37.000 Like, so where El Paso is is on.

00:11:40.000 And then you've got Colorado, Utah, Wyoming, Idaho, Eastern Oregon.

00:11:44.000 I had no idea.

00:11:45.000 Only part of Idaho is on Mountain Time.

00:11:48.000 And then the northern part of Idaho goes back to Pacific time.

00:11:52.000 All of Montana, southwestern North Dakota, western South Dakota, western Nebraska, and western Kansas.

00:12:00.000 This is a, I had no idea it was this elaborate.

00:12:04.000 Is this like news to anybody else?

00:12:08.000 I will say this.

00:12:10.000 Traveling as much as all of us do, it is, you know, it is funny.

00:12:12.000 I'm actually interested.

00:12:13.000 Do you guys all keep your computer in a certain time zone?

00:12:16.000 My rule is my computer stays in Eastern.

00:12:19.000 I keep them in America's time zone, which is Eastern time zone. 0.79

00:12:22.000 The Lord's time.

00:12:22.000 Okay.

00:12:24.000 Okay.

00:12:25.000 My favorite thing.

00:12:26.000 Wawa and your tasty cakes and your Philadelphia Eagles, the United States Super Bowl champions.

00:12:33.000 Is that going to happen again?

00:12:34.000 I hope we'll bad juju when we come here because they lost here.

00:12:38.000 No, it's not going to happen.

00:12:39.000 No.

00:12:40.000 I will.

00:12:40.000 Before we move on, we should move on to our official topic in a second, but I do.

00:12:44.000 Just Jess Freedom, we have our live chat now, and Just Jess Freedom says that we have daylight savings time to help farmers. 1.00

00:12:51.000 And I need to wage war upon Ms. Smith. 0.87

00:12:55.000 Here we go.

00:12:55.000 Because it is not true.

00:12:58.000 If you've ever talked to a farmer, they can't follow daylight savings time because what do farmers work with?

00:13:06.000 They work with the natural world, which was created by God.

00:13:09.000 And do cows know that the time zone has changed?

00:13:13.000 No. 0.94

00:13:13.000 The cows are going to do their cow stuff at the same time. 0.94

00:13:18.000 Solar, the same solar time.

00:13:21.000 So if you have to do something at sunrise, you just have to do something at sunrise.

00:13:26.000 If you have to do something before the sun goes down, they're just going to do it regardless.

00:13:31.000 So daylight savings time really has no effect on the farmers.

00:13:35.000 It was created during World War I by evil people like Woodrow Wilson. 0.76

00:13:40.000 And then it was brought back by other evil people like Franklin Roosevelt.

00:13:44.000 Wait.

00:13:45.000 And now we just perpetually live in slavery under what they've created.

00:13:49.000 Wait, I did not know that.

00:13:51.000 Woodrow Wilson, Daylight Savings Time originated under Woodrow.

00:13:55.000 The original idea for it, the original idea for it was during World War I.

00:14:00.000 And they thought it could save some energy and they thought it would improve wartime production and something like that.

00:14:09.000 I can't remember the exact nature of it, but it originally began in World War I as a wartime measure.

00:14:14.000 And then they brought it back.

00:14:16.000 I'm not making this up.

00:14:16.000 They brought it back during the Great Depression because FDR thought that there would be more shopping if there was more daylight and this would stimulate the economy.

00:14:27.000 Let me throw out one cool factoid.

00:14:29.000 Florida is not all in Eastern time.

00:14:32.000 Parts of Florida and Central.

00:14:34.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:14:35.000 That's how you know, because we have to go back to the middle.

00:14:36.000 We call it every year during the election.

00:14:38.000 I figured the election folks would remember this, but they count obviously the first half, and then you've got a little piece of the panhandle.

00:14:46.000 Yeah, it's a panhandle.

00:14:47.000 That covers it, but that's how wide the panhandle is that it dips in the central time zone.

00:14:52.000 I knew that because I went to Destin, and I kept showing up an hour late to phone calls, and I had no idea that there was a central time zone in Florida.

00:15:00.000 You know what?

00:15:01.000 I do feel bad for the states that are like cut in half, right?

00:15:04.000 Because you've got Tennessee, Eastern Tennessee is on Eastern, Western Tennessee is on Central.

00:15:08.000 Eastern Kentucky, Eastern, Western, Idaho, same thing.

00:15:12.000 Indiana has parts of Eastern, parts of Western.

00:15:15.000 And did you know that the farthest west that the East Coast time goes is to the Upper Peninsula, but half of the Ethiopia Peninsula is on East Coast, half of it is on West Coast.

00:15:26.000 Fascinating.

00:15:27.000 Look at that cutout of Idaho.

00:15:28.000 I mean, Idaho is really struggling.

00:15:30.000 I mean, they literally just didn't have to loop around.

00:15:32.000 What's going on with northern Oregon?

00:15:34.000 I don't understand what's going on with that.

00:15:37.000 Is that the conservative part of the state?

00:15:38.000 Which part of Oregon?

00:15:39.000 That's the conservative part of the state.

00:15:41.000 There's literally only one part that's not conservative.

00:15:44.000 It's called Portland.

00:15:45.000 Well, it bend, you know, probably is, but it's the same with Washington.

00:15:49.000 It's like Olympia, Tacoma, Seattle, liberal.

00:15:53.000 Yeah, everything else, conservative.

00:15:55.000 Can we just throw that map up again one more time?

00:15:59.000 Because I just want to look at my glorious East Coast time zone.

00:16:02.000 Oh, look at it.

00:16:03.000 It's so good.

00:16:05.000 So perfect.

00:16:06.000 So wonderful.

00:16:08.000 It's just, it's just, I mean.

00:16:11.000 What is that even saying?

00:16:13.000 Play the Stephen A when he went after Andrew.

00:16:17.000 Hell yes.

00:16:19.000 Well, Blake, can I at least get you to agree on this?

00:16:22.000 That if we do start messing around with the times at all, that we should also take GMT away from London and make U.S. East Coast time the sort of international standard for zero.

00:16:39.000 I'm torn on that one because Britain is a benighted country that has become kind of third world.

00:16:46.000 But GMT was created by Britain when it was a great country.

00:16:52.000 And I don't know.

00:16:53.000 It's like I would rather.

00:16:56.000 GMT would still be GMT because it's Greenwich because that's where Greenwich is.

00:17:00.000 It's based on London.

00:17:01.000 But what I'm saying is you make, you know, you just make like American, like AST, American Standard Time, and that's, or American Mean Time, and that's East Coast, and that's zero now.

00:17:12.000 And force everyone else to change their clocks off of us.

00:17:16.000 Wouldn't we just still call it Greenwich Meridian Time and we just set it to like Greenwich, Connecticut?

00:17:20.000 There you go.

00:17:22.000 Now we're thinking.

00:17:22.000 Genius.

00:17:23.000 Genius.

00:17:24.000 Gulf of America.

00:17:26.000 This is why we have Blake.

00:17:27.000 This is why we have a Blake.

00:17:31.000 Solomon like wisdom over here on tap.

00:17:34.000 There you go.

00:17:35.000 All right, we should get in to the actual topics here.

00:17:38.000 Let's see.

00:17:38.000 Which one do we want first?

00:17:41.000 H-1B, H-1B, H-1B.

00:17:44.000 H-1B.

00:17:44.000 All right.

00:17:45.000 Okay.

00:17:46.000 We've got to hit the H-1B topic.

00:17:48.000 Okay, so this blew up again.

00:17:50.000 It's kind of blown up cyclically over the past year, but it blew up again this week because President Trump had an interview with Laura Ingram on Fox, and they hit a lot of different topics.

00:18:03.000 But a big thing that came up was H-1Bs because a lot of people have said we should have an immigration freeze.

00:18:10.000 We should radically cut back H-1Bs. 1.00

00:18:12.000 For those who can't remember, H-1Bs are kind of the skilled work, the most common skilled worker visa.

00:18:18.000 So a company says there is some skill we can't fill in the U.S. market.

00:18:23.000 We need to bring in someone from overseas.

00:18:25.000 A lot of tech companies do this.

00:18:28.000 Anyway, Laura asked President Trump about H-1B visas, and this came up.

00:18:32.000 Let's play Clip 200.

00:18:35.000 There's never going to be a country like what we have right now.

00:18:37.000 And does that mean?

00:18:39.000 And does that mean the H-1B visa thing will not be a big priority for your administration?

00:18:44.000 Because if you want to raise wages for American workers, you can't flood the country with tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of foreign workers. 1.00

00:18:51.000 We also do have to bring in talent.

00:18:54.000 We have plenty of talent if people don't.

00:18:56.000 No, you don't.

00:18:57.000 Ooh, no, you don't.

00:18:58.000 And I love that after that clip saying we don't have talent, I went straight to a full shot of Blake.

00:19:06.000 Imagine Blake being replaced with an Indian on this stream right now. 1.00

00:19:15.000 We must make America Adazon America back. 0.70

00:19:21.000 H-1B.

00:19:23.000 I like Ajohn Beach.

00:19:28.000 Only pay me half.

00:19:29.000 I work for half the dollar.

00:19:34.000 You know, Mikey's got it going on when the whole control room is losing.

00:19:39.000 This was the Mamdami theme song.

00:19:40.000 Remember, this was the theme song that Landani walked off of his.

00:19:46.000 That can't be real.

00:19:46.000 Is that real?

00:19:47.000 Well, don't you know when they award?

00:19:49.000 Play the clip if you don't believe me.

00:19:51.000 No, it is.

00:19:51.000 It's true.

00:19:52.000 When we award H-1Bs, this is a song. 1.00

00:19:55.000 Yeah, when we award H-1Bs to Indians, this is when we hand the piece of paper. 0.81

00:19:59.000 That's the song that plays.

00:20:01.000 That's the first song that he heard when he got a lot of money.

00:20:03.000 This is what Mamdani wants for America.

00:20:05.000 Yeah.

00:20:09.000 We'll get the clip.

00:20:10.000 We'll get the GWO.

00:20:11.000 How's it going?

00:20:12.000 How's it going?

00:20:13.000 I need the song again.

00:20:14.000 How's it going?

00:20:15.000 You should show it.

00:20:16.000 No, Mikey's got it down.

00:20:17.000 I wanted to hear it.

00:20:21.000 It's the Mamdani theme. 0.90

00:20:23.000 You got to do your Mom Danny.

00:20:24.000 Wow.

00:20:25.000 Wow.

00:20:26.000 H-1B.

00:20:28.000 So Malert. 1.00

00:20:30.000 Okay.

00:20:33.000 These studios having so much fun right now.

00:20:36.000 Can you, studio, show my image.

00:20:39.000 So from after the screen I have up right now.

00:20:43.000 After that happened, the conservative base lost their minds.

00:20:47.000 After this clip from Laura Trump, Laura Ingram, rather.

00:20:51.000 Now, this ABC saying, where is my president?

00:20:54.000 Some MAGA supporters are in an uproar over Trump's H-1B visa comments.

00:20:59.000 So this is, I would say I got some of that feedback when we did the show the next day.

00:21:06.000 It was like absolutely an uproar.

00:21:10.000 The emails were ugly for the Trump administration.

00:21:12.000 And I think, like, listen, if there's an opportunity where we could get rid of H-1B altogether and maybe expand the genius visa, but actually ensure that their geniuses, I'd be more open-minded to that conversation. 0.99

00:21:26.000 But the way that the communication came off, it was kind of rough.

00:21:31.000 It was kind of rough.

00:21:32.000 Saying we don't have talent.

00:21:36.000 Yes.

00:21:39.000 Yeah, no, we don't.

00:21:41.000 We don't.

00:21:41.000 No.

00:21:42.000 But, you know, it's genuinely interesting because the H-1B has bounced back and forth a lot.

00:21:48.000 And like the truth is, is America does have a talent issue.

00:21:52.000 The problem is that it's actually significantly created by H-1Bs. 0.92

00:21:56.000 And, you know, there's a lot of good stuff pointing this out.

00:21:59.000 Like, a reason not as many people are going into STEM fields as you'd call it is like we lowered the wages for it because we brought in so many H-1Bs in certain fields. 1.00

00:22:10.000 And another thing we did is we screwed up the education pipeline.

00:22:13.000 Like, for example, getting a PhD in something like computer science, something like physics, something engineering related.

00:22:21.000 Way fewer Americans are getting PhDs in that.

00:22:24.000 Why is one reason they do that?

00:22:25.000 Well, a huge number of foreigners are willing to do those PhDs for like very low pay while you're getting the PhD. 1.00

00:22:34.000 Well, why do they do that?

00:22:35.000 Because you can come to the U.S., study to get a PhD, and in addition to whatever money you're getting, you can get a visa to live and work in America at the end of it.

00:22:44.000 And so effectively, they get paid way more while they're studying because they're getting something hugely valuable, which is U.S. citizenship or a path to citizenship as a side effect of it.

00:22:55.000 So basically, you've made it.

00:22:57.000 So you're getting paid way less if you're an American getting a PhD at a school in America.

00:23:04.000 Same thing with the H-1B thing. 0.64

00:23:05.000 And on top of that, you know, we make it lower status because we've kind of signaled, oh, like certain fields are things tons of immigrants do. 1.00

00:23:14.000 And, you know, being a fresh off-the-boat immigrant worker is not as high status as working in various other high-powered fields.

00:23:21.000 So unsurprisingly, Americans have gone into jobs like finance, like law, like consulting that have fewer immigrants in them.

00:23:29.000 A lot of those jobs, you need to know English a lot more fluently than you do in hard STEM fields.

00:23:34.000 So we basically just massively borked our own skill pipeline. 0.98

00:23:38.000 And then they turn around and they're like, oh, Americans just don't want to do these jobs or Americans are too dumb to do these jobs. 0.98

00:23:44.000 And it's like, no, we just actively screwed them up. 0.98

00:23:47.000 And if you look at the America that landed a man on the moon, yeah, there were some immigrants who worked at NASA.

00:23:52.000 There were some immigrants who worked on the Manhattan Project.

00:23:54.000 But 95 plus percent of that workforce was grown in America.

00:24:00.000 And we have a perfectly smart population to continue doing that.

00:24:03.000 We just chose not to.

00:24:06.000 Subscribe to my newsletter.

00:24:07.000 Yeah, I actually totally agree with this, but I also, I think it's more like soft incentive structures.

00:24:14.000 So, yeah, you could look at wages, you could look at this and that.

00:24:17.000 But what's probably what I've seen, and I've talked to, one of the things I would do when we'd go on these campus tours, I'd talk to people like, hey, why don't you pursue that?

00:24:26.000 And some of the more honest kids would just be like, well, listen, like, it's all like Indians and Chinese kids that are in those classes.

00:24:33.000 There's something about wanting to be around people that you recognize and that you relate to.

00:24:38.000 And when you, when you want, as you're an American kid now and you want to go be an engineer, you want to be a, you know, go into these STEM fields and you look around, you're like, none of them are like me.

00:24:48.000 It must not be for me.

00:24:49.000 There's like, it's almost like a subconscious conclusion you reach pretty immediately where like, this is not for me.

00:24:55.000 Yeah, I actually remember touring UC Berkeley as a rower.

00:24:59.000 And I was, I was going around the campus.

00:25:01.000 I remember eating at the dining hall and it was just like all Chinese students. 0.90

00:25:06.000 And that went through my head.

00:25:07.000 I was like, I don't know if I want to go here.

00:25:08.000 I just, this doesn't resonate with me.

00:25:10.000 Like, these are literally all foreign, like Chinese. 1.00

00:25:14.000 It just doesn't feel like me.

00:25:16.000 Yeah.

00:25:16.000 It's just not.

00:25:17.000 It feels un-American.

00:25:18.000 It feels like you have to like, you're studying abroad just at UC Berkeley.

00:25:21.000 Yeah.

00:25:23.000 I think that has more to do with it.

00:25:24.000 Real quick here, though, do you guys know the facts?

00:25:27.000 70% of H-1B visa holders come from which country?

00:25:32.000 Where's the song?

00:25:35.000 I don't know.

00:25:38.000 70%.

00:25:39.000 Just got the number up to 80.

00:25:46.000 I don't know.

00:25:47.000 I don't think we have a song for this one.

00:25:48.000 10 to 15% of H-1Bs come from China?

00:25:53.000 China.

00:25:54.000 Yep.

00:25:54.000 Where's our, we have any China music?

00:25:57.000 We have like a little...

00:26:00.000 Not quite.

00:26:01.000 Not quite.

00:26:01.000 Bigs, caboose.

00:26:03.000 And 80%.

00:26:04.000 Let me just say to anyone who thinks that the Chinese have the ability to take over, they're certainly not taking over this country. 0.74

00:26:14.000 They're certainly not taking over this podcast.

00:26:17.000 And another thing, what is that?

00:26:31.000 Some of those soundboard things that you hear.

00:26:33.000 When the control room is laughing, that we can hear them through the glasses.

00:26:36.000 The control room is out of control.

00:26:38.000 Yeah, the soundboard is definitely killing all the bits we're trying to do tonight.

00:26:42.000 Oh, gauntlet thrown.

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00:27:58.000 How about this, though?

00:28:00.000 JD Vance is, I think he's sounding a better tone, if you will.

00:28:07.000 This is a little bit longer clip.

00:28:10.000 And that's all right.

00:28:11.000 All right, let's go to clip 186.

00:28:14.000 Let in about a million legal immigrants into the United States of America every single year.

00:28:18.000 And I think the evidence is pretty clear that a lot of those immigrants are actually undercutting the wages of American workers. 1.00

00:28:23.000 It's one of the reasons why the President of the United States, it's one of the reasons why the President of the United States and a lot of us in the administration have encouraged H-1B reform.

00:28:33.000 Because if you look at the H-1B visa, what it's supposed to be, what it's supposed to be is that you have a super genius who's studying at an American university, who's working at a great company.

00:28:44.000 You want that super genius to stay in the United States of America and not go somewhere else.

00:28:48.000 What it's actually used to do is hire an accountant at a 50% discount to an American citizen.

00:28:56.000 I don't think that we should be hiring accountants from foreign countries when we've got accountants right here in the United States that would love to work for a good wage.

00:29:04.000 Always on the money.

00:29:05.000 Huge.

00:29:07.000 Let's go.

00:29:07.000 End the scams.

00:29:08.000 Get it out.

00:29:09.000 End the scams.

00:29:10.000 I think that's where we all kind of come on this issue because you had Trump kind of sounding a different tone, but that was connected to this 600,000 Chinese student visa holders also.

00:29:22.000 And I have to read into this a little bit.

00:29:24.000 So the timing of this interview, and then you have this press conference with Kash Patel, basically, was it the next day or two days after saying that China has agreed to cut off all these precursors to fentanyl.

00:29:37.000 So the sympathetic reading here is that Trump was trying not to scuttle a deal that was in the process of happening and wanted to send friendly vibes to President Xi.

00:29:48.000 Yeah, but I think you've got two different problems here.

00:29:51.000 And that is the argument about, hey, do we want to have immigration for manual labor jobs, the jobs that actual Americans likely do not want to do, right?

00:30:01.000 Now, will they adjust if they have to?

00:30:02.000 Maybe.

00:30:03.000 But I think JD's point, like, if we're talking about accountants, like, that's a good paying job that Americans would be very happy to have.

00:30:13.000 I just think they're two very different conversations.

00:30:15.000 And I think JD understands how to package that in a way.

00:30:18.000 Because when people hear that, it's not, oh, hotel workers.

00:30:21.000 It's not sanitation.

00:30:22.000 It's not landscapers or farmers.

00:30:25.000 It's legitimately, you know, somebody that's making close to six figures a year as an accountant.

00:30:30.000 Well, but I think the base, and maybe Blake, Jack, you guys have a different take on this.

00:30:34.000 I think the base is so sick of immigration that they just, they want like moratorium, full moratorium.

00:30:40.000 They want H-1Bs gone. 1.00

00:30:42.000 Even if I say genius visas. 0.98

00:30:44.000 That's a big part of it.

00:30:45.000 It's that, like, yes, you can come up with a justification for almost everything they do, yet we've heard these explanations for decades, and the clear long-run result is basically great replacement and tons of scams and just this general displacement of the American people.

00:31:03.000 And as I was saying, a lot of where we're dependent on immigration or immigrants are doing the jobs Americans won't do, it's like actively because we brought in so many immigrants. 0.76

00:31:14.000 Like there's a recent, I saw a recent article where a ski resort is claiming they need to bring in foreign workers, I think guest workers in this case, to be ski bums at a ski mountain because no one in America is willing to ski, spend winter skiing to be a ski bum.

00:31:29.000 No one in America, and like they'll probably do this for lifeguards at like nice beaches because no one in America is willing to work as a lifeguard.

00:31:35.000 We never had a super popular TV show about Americans doing exactly that.

00:31:40.000 Like, we have actively messed up so many pipelines into work.

00:31:46.000 Like, you know, people will complain.

00:31:47.000 Americans don't do summer jobs anymore.

00:31:50.000 And yet we've actively kind of foreignized all of the jobs that young workers would do.

00:31:58.000 And we just...

00:32:00.000 We like messed everything up.

00:32:02.000 And also we changed our college admissions so they require all this BS and you're not supposed to be working a job.

00:32:06.000 You're supposed to be doing your BS for college admissions.

00:32:09.000 It's just absolute lunacy.

00:32:10.000 And like you look at that and say, yeah, sorry, we've gotten addicted to this bad thing.

00:32:14.000 The way you fix the addiction is you go cold turkey.

00:32:17.000 We got hooked on the heroine of the heroine of Hindus, I guess, in the case of H-1Bs. 1.00

00:32:24.000 Yeah.

00:32:24.000 Yeah, and it's literally like it's, well, I guess you would say poppy in that case, but it's, it's literally just like we've become worshipers of the GDP.

00:32:35.000 Like, do conservatives actually care about conserving anything other than the GDP?

00:32:42.000 Like, the social order or the social fabric or patriotism or our Christian background or our heritage or any of these things.

00:32:50.000 Like, like, you talk to some of these guys, it's literally, they're like, oh, GDP, GDP, GDP.

00:32:55.000 First of all, the GDP doesn't even exist.

00:32:57.000 It's like, it's like an economic model.

00:32:58.000 It's not like a theory.

00:33:00.000 You can't go out and like take your portion of the GDP and invest it in the stock exchange.

00:33:04.000 The GDP is not a real thing.

00:33:06.000 Like it's, it's literally, it's literally not real, bro.

00:33:10.000 So, you know, what is real is economic conditions.

00:33:12.000 You know, what else is real is quality of life and cost of living.

00:33:16.000 And all of these things are real.

00:33:18.000 And the GDP is not.

00:33:20.000 There are certain businesses that are doing well.

00:33:22.000 There are certain segments of the population that are doing well, typically older segments.

00:33:28.000 But no, it is not good for everybody out there.

00:33:31.000 And worship of the GDP is going to destroy the Republican Party, the conservative movement, the MAGA movement, and ultimately the United States of America.

00:33:39.000 And I just want to be very clear about this.

00:33:46.000 So just want to make sure everyone understands that.

00:33:48.000 Yeah, but I think the question is, do we really understand a word of it?

00:33:50.000 Do we really want a full moratorium?

00:33:53.000 And are people ready for the growing pains that are going to come from that?

00:33:56.000 Yeah, there's going to be a lot of economic disruption if we did a full moratorium.

00:33:58.000 Oh, the libertarians coming out now.

00:34:00.000 Cliff's libertarians coming out.

00:34:02.000 I've been radicalized on this in a good way.

00:34:03.000 You guys would be proud of me.

00:34:04.000 But no, I think those growing pains would be a little tougher than people think.

00:34:08.000 Oh, they'd be.

00:34:09.000 We don't know.

00:34:10.000 Here it comes.

00:34:11.000 We don't know.

00:34:12.000 We don't have to.

00:34:13.000 According to Ayn Rand.

00:34:16.000 We don't have the intestinal fortitude as a country to put up with it.

00:34:19.000 And the reason is, is that our media landscape would absolutely revolt.

00:34:23.000 So everybody, everybody, this is half the problem with our current dynamic.

00:34:27.000 We can't have nice things because the media tells us that everything's in disarray.

00:34:31.000 Trump is screwing everything up.

00:34:33.000 All hell's breaking loose.

00:34:35.000 And really, if you're just driving to work and driving home, hanging out with your kids, you have no idea what the heck they're talking about.

00:34:40.000 But then you get on social media and you're just like, everything's crazy and everything's awful.

00:34:44.000 Oh.

00:34:45.000 And we would instantly reverse course.

00:34:47.000 And then weak Republicans in the House and Rand Paul would start saying we need to pass law to make it so that people can't do XYZ.

00:34:55.000 I mean, that is the truth.

00:34:57.000 We do not have the ability to take dramatic action, it seems, in very many ways at all, actually.

00:35:03.000 And it takes essentially a decade to shut the border down.

00:35:06.000 That's what it is.

00:35:07.000 It took a decade of us having one of the most dramatic political fights of Trump's 1.0, his exile, and Trump 2.0 for us to finally, as a country, go, okay, we probably don't like this.

00:35:20.000 We're going to actually shut it down.

00:35:22.000 Otherwise, we can't have nice things.

00:35:24.000 So you can't do H-1B reform.

00:35:26.000 You can't do actual legal immigration reform without building a consensus over about a decade.

00:35:31.000 Because if not, then the media will just tell you everything's awful.

00:35:34.000 And people will believe it.

00:35:35.000 Well, and this debate reminds me of the big Trump moment at the first debate against Hillary, or one of them in 2016, where he says, you know, the famous line, well, you've been in office for 40 years, and you know how I know you're not going to change the tax code?

00:35:52.000 Because of your donors.

00:35:54.000 Your donors do very well.

00:35:57.000 Yes, that's why I do well in the tax code, too.

00:35:59.000 But he does this whole thing.

00:36:01.000 And Dave Chappelle, there's a whole bit about how he was like, What did Trump just say?

00:36:06.000 Like, that's speaking for the people.

00:36:08.000 That's the battle right now, which is you're going to have tons of CEOs, business owners, different people that are going to be pushing the president and the administration to actually come out and say, listen, we need workers at our hotels.

00:36:21.000 We need workers in the farms.

00:36:24.000 And then you have the base of America First saying, no, we want no more of this immigration stuff. 1.00

00:36:30.000 We want to pause it.

00:36:32.000 And I think those are the two forces.

00:36:33.000 Yeah.

00:36:34.000 I think it's corporations.

00:36:35.000 Corporations are the ones that...

00:36:37.000 Yeah.

00:36:38.000 It's easy to blame the corporations, but kind of an interesting thing I was reading just a few days ago that got pointed out.

00:36:38.000 It's easy.

00:36:44.000 It's another way that H-1B stuff actually has screwed everything up. 0.98

00:36:48.000 And it's if you look at it, it actually squares with some of the economic turbulence people have talked about lately, where if you look at the economic data, things are still pretty good if you're an older worker, like an established professional.

00:37:02.000 The economy is kind of humming along fine.

00:37:04.000 There's actually a good number of job openings.

00:37:06.000 Where it's really bad is entry-level workers, the workers just out of college.

00:37:11.000 And yet they're still saying we need to bring in a bunch of foreign workers because they can't fill jobs.

00:37:15.000 And it's kind of true because where we have a bottleneck is specifically entry-level jobs.

00:37:20.000 And this is partly a product of what Charlie would love to talk about, which is college being a scam.

00:37:25.000 You don't learn useful things in college.

00:37:28.000 Even if you're studying a technical field, you don't really learn how to do the jobs in that field getting that degree.

00:37:35.000 You learn those by getting entry-level jobs in that field.

00:37:38.000 You learn to be a programmer by being a programmer.

00:37:41.000 You learn to be an engineer by being an engineer.

00:37:43.000 You learn to work in media by working in media.

00:37:45.000 All of those things.

00:37:46.000 You need to get an entry-level job.

00:37:47.000 And those are bad.

00:37:49.000 And the availability of those is bad.

00:37:53.000 But yet there's like kind of, it's almost a meme that there's like infinite jobs out there that require five years experience in something.

00:37:59.000 And what we've gotten ourselves into here is we've gotten ourselves into this H-1B situation where companies have like very little incentive to provide training to like provide that sort of thankless on-the-job training for people because then an employee can just leave.

00:38:16.000 And so they just decide everyone should just already know how to do the job when we're going to hire them.

00:38:19.000 Oh, no Americans know how to do this. 1.00

00:38:21.000 Let's just bring in more H-1Bs. 1.00

00:38:23.000 So like an actual policy thing we need to do is we need to make it so a company has an incentive to just train new people to do their job.

00:38:30.000 And it's not like we're unable to do this because we actually have a pretty big institution in America that is able to train Americans to do jobs.

00:38:37.000 Even kind of dumb Americans, even Americans who like might only have a high school education and we still need to train them to do technical things. 0.75

00:38:44.000 And it's called the U.S. military. 0.99

00:38:46.000 The U.S. military trains random people of below average intelligence all the time to do complex stuff.

00:38:53.000 And honestly, I suspect the reason is just because they can sign you up for four years and you just can't leave.

00:38:58.000 You can't quit.

00:38:59.000 You get in trouble if you leave.

00:39:00.000 Like, you know, there's no contest until you join the military, right?

00:39:04.000 Yeah, but is it that demanding, Jack?

00:39:08.000 Well, yeah.

00:39:09.000 There's literally nuclear engineers in the military.

00:39:13.000 Yes.

00:39:13.000 But there's also like guys with no college degree.

00:39:16.000 I bet not every single guy on a submarine needs to be that smart to work on the nuclear submarine.

00:39:23.000 Well, you are if you're working in the nuclear power plant.

00:39:27.000 Maybe, but it's probably not as smart as you need to be to get a PhD in nuclear engineering.

00:39:32.000 There are people with PhDs in nuclear engineering in the military, Blake.

00:39:35.000 There are, there are, but I bet you don't need to have one to work on the nuclear submarine, including in the nuclear stuff.

00:39:42.000 You do just military training complex stuff all the time.

00:39:47.000 The point that I'm making is that actually there is a sorting process when you join the military so that they test people's intelligence, which is kind of like illegal in like every other field.

00:39:57.000 I know we've talked about this before, where they actually can, you know, they do sort people by intelligence and they say, okay, you know, you're this type of age range called the ASVAB on the enlisted side.

00:40:08.000 So you're in this age range, IQ range.

00:40:12.000 So we're going to put you here.

00:40:13.000 You're going to be over here.

00:40:14.000 You're going to be here, et cetera, et cetera.

00:40:16.000 And it's something that actually works.

00:40:18.000 When it's done with the right, when you take the DEI quotients and all that randomness out of it, it actually can be used really, really well because you can find, like, certain people just don't have what it takes to be a nuclear engineer.

00:40:31.000 And in fact, you can test that while testing someone's intelligence.

00:40:35.000 You don't have to just put them through the pipeline and see what happens.

00:40:38.000 And so I think it's actually something that we should look to as, you know, probably a pretty good model for, you know, just this rest of these things that we're talking about.

00:40:47.000 Like, for example, I don't know, the workforce.

00:40:50.000 You know, what's interesting as well is that this is brought back up Vivek Ramaswamy's Christmas Saved by the Bell infamous tweet.

00:41:00.000 And you know what I didn't realize is that that tweet, that original one, that caused all that kerfuffle in December, has 125 million engagements.

00:41:14.000 What?

00:41:14.000 On X and Twitter.

00:41:17.000 Huge.

00:41:20.000 Throw up image 345.

00:41:23.000 And this was a snippet of it.

00:41:28.000 He says, the reason top tech companies often hire foreign-born and first-generation engineers over Native Americans isn't because of an innate American IQ deficit.

00:41:37.000 A lazy and wrong explanation.

00:41:38.000 I don't know who was suggesting that it was an IQ deficit.

00:41:41.000 So that was interesting.

00:41:42.000 A key part of it comes down to the C word, culture.

00:41:46.000 Tough questions demand tough answers.

00:41:48.000 And if we're really serious about fixing the problem, we have to confront the truth at all caps.

00:41:55.000 I mean, do we think that the American culture, Blake, you're saying that the H-1B problem is self-perpetuating, that it creates its own problem.

00:42:04.000 When we drown out certain industries with foreign-born workers, American workers either get priced out or they no longer go into those fields because they're looked at as foreign-based fields.

00:42:15.000 Is there an innate culture problem that we have?

00:42:20.000 I think culture to some extent is created by, it's almost an unintended side effect of a bunch of choices we make.

00:42:29.000 And, you know, it's often commented one of the issues, one of the things people complain about with H-1Bs is they will say, like, a company will let in a few H-1Bs. 0.64

00:42:38.000 Maybe a lot of them are from specifically India.

00:42:40.000 And then over time, it just gets more and more foreign. 0.97

00:42:43.000 And eventually it's like a foreign shop.

00:42:45.000 Well, that's a real cultural issue because, you know, you probably reach a tipping point there where if it's 75% people of foreign origin, now it's like, why would I want to go work there? 0.99

00:42:57.000 Where a lot of the guys, maybe they don't even talk in English when they're in the office.

00:43:00.000 They prefer to speak a different language.

00:43:03.000 It's just very alienating.

00:43:04.000 They may sort of see you in a hostile way.

00:43:08.000 There's all of these dynamics that go on.

00:43:09.000 And then when that happens at a society-wide level, you eventually have a different country.

00:43:15.000 And when you're doing this to important skilled fields, which a lot of the stuff that we do with H-1Bs is important stuff that's important for our most sophisticated and advanced and technical companies, you're messing up the whole country. 1.00

00:43:29.000 And we have, because we've made it so easy to bring in foreigners for those highly technical fields, we've basically de-skilled the American population in a way that's really damaging. 0.86

00:43:42.000 And I think, you know, we're focusing on the H-1Bs a lot because that's been the meme.

00:43:47.000 That's what people talk about.

00:43:48.000 But I think, you know, we also have that other Trump clip with the 600,000 Chinese students.

00:43:53.000 I think it's as bad there.

00:43:55.000 The fact that we've made it so easy for colleges to bring in more foreigners to fill their PhD programs, I think is a huge issue. 1.00

00:44:03.000 And a big reason the colleges do it is just so they can pay PhDs less to be adjunct professors.

00:44:10.000 It's absolutely insane to me that we would devalue PhDs for Americans, like super highly skilled work, just so that, you know, freaking Tufts University can pay an adjunct professor $40,000 a year instead of $55,000 a year or whatever amount it is.

00:44:28.000 I think you just hit on something that's actually, it's the college scam that's behind a lot of this because the universities can't pay full, native-born students don't pay full freight.

00:44:38.000 Guess who does?

00:44:39.000 The Chinese students.

00:44:39.000 And they'll pay full freight, not at the top universities.

00:44:42.000 They'll pay it at the B and the C list universities.

00:44:46.000 So that's happening a lot.

00:44:48.000 A lot of these student visa problems, when you talk about this clip, 600,000 Chinese students, they're coming over and they're basically keeping the lights on at a lot of these universities.

00:44:57.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:44:58.000 Excellent take.

00:44:59.000 And then on top of that, just to defend Trump a little bit, the president, our universities are failing our students here in America.

00:45:06.000 Like we're just not producing the type of students that can qualify for jobs like this.

00:45:11.000 And instead of it actually being like an in-depth PhD or degree, it'd be the sociology and understanding of accounting for lesbians.

00:45:23.000 And these are like the degrees that you're getting instead of actually like producing good students or trade schools, which is what Charlie used to advocate for.

00:45:31.000 Let me make, I don't think I've ever talked about this.

00:45:34.000 Before I got in politics, I was a math teacher.

00:45:36.000 Do you guys know that?

00:45:37.000 I don't know if I've said that.

00:45:37.000 I don't know.

00:45:38.000 You have.

00:45:38.000 Mr. Maloney.

00:45:39.000 Those were the days.

00:45:40.000 You would be a great math teacher.

00:45:42.000 It was a lot of fun.

00:45:43.000 Here's a really interesting thing.

00:45:45.000 I was teaching in like central western Pennsylvania and I had one Chinese student.

00:45:49.000 Now he has since graduated.

00:45:50.000 Wait a minute.

00:45:51.000 That's not true.

00:45:52.000 They don't teach math in Pennsylvania public schools.

00:45:55.000 Okay, let me get to the punchline.

00:45:57.000 So this is fifth grade, and I just always remember this cultural moment where, and this is so, this is such a bad stereotype.

00:46:05.000 His family owned like the one Chinese restaurant in town.

00:46:08.000 It's a very white town, yes.

00:46:11.000 And I went there one time for dinner after school, a couple buddies of mine from college, and I walk in and he's literally in my fifth grade class.

00:46:22.000 And he comes running up, says hello.

00:46:24.000 Hey, Mr. Maloney.

00:46:26.000 And his parents were very happy to see me, but they made it very clear that he was not to be interrupted until his homework was done.

00:46:34.000 And he had to finish the homework before he could eat.

00:46:36.000 And I just, that was such a cultural moment for me.

00:46:38.000 I know it's like very much like the stereotype moment, but you think that's happening with any type of American-born student.

00:46:46.000 I mean, yeah, there are some great parents out there doing good things, but the cultural difference is just you can see it.

00:46:52.000 And I think the discipline that a lot of these cultures have, we just, we don't have it as a whole.

00:46:57.000 We really don't.

00:46:58.000 And by the way, they're poor of the poor.

00:47:01.000 They're not like, you know, people that are very well-to-do sending their kids to some great school.

00:47:06.000 So I don't look at it like that because if you look at it like that with, you know, let's say white Americans or, you know, your everyday blue-collar American, I think it's even worse the lower you go in the socioeconomic statuses because there's just no, it's such a lack of discipline that the other cultures have. 1.00

00:47:22.000 Well, to your point, it's kind of depressing.

00:47:24.000 If you should throw up image 239, this is UCSD's Math 2 course teaches grade school math.

00:47:30.000 That's grades one through eight to freshmen.

00:47:34.000 So is it UCSD?

00:47:35.000 UCSD is ranked as the nation's fifth best public university.

00:47:42.000 And so 25 per students got this problem wrong.

00:47:45.000 Seven plus two equals blank plus six.

00:47:49.000 What is that?

00:47:49.000 What is that, Cliff?

00:47:51.000 What is it?

00:47:51.000 Let me see.

00:47:51.000 I'm not a biologist.

00:47:53.000 So seven plus two equals blank plus six.

00:47:56.000 Let me see the box.

00:47:56.000 Let me zoom in here.

00:48:00.000 Dude, seriously.

00:48:01.000 There you go.

00:48:02.000 He's a math teacher.

00:48:03.000 There you go.

00:48:04.000 Is it three?

00:48:05.000 61% of students, a large majority, couldn't round 374,518 to the nearest 100.

00:48:15.000 That would be 374,500.

00:48:19.000 It's been many years since Mr. Maloney's.

00:48:22.000 37% of students.

00:48:23.000 Totally.

00:48:23.000 For the record.

00:48:24.000 I was kidding.

00:48:24.000 I knew the answer was three.

00:48:26.000 They're going to clip that.

00:48:27.000 I'm going to lose my license.

00:48:29.000 Zoom in.

00:48:30.000 You didn't have your spectacles on.

00:48:32.000 There you go.

00:48:32.000 37% of students couldn't subtract fractions.

00:48:36.000 So this is like, you know, I mean, I look at this and I have no problem.

00:48:41.000 I can subtract fractions.

00:48:44.000 But that does suggest at a top five public university in the country that majorities of students couldn't round to the nearest hundred.

00:48:54.000 Yeah, and listen, math is going to be our biggest problem because if you miss a couple history lessons, but you, you know, give you a lot of money.

00:48:59.000 But this suggests that it's different.

00:49:01.000 This suggests that the problem is arising in high school and middle school and elementary school.

00:49:06.000 Well, the problem, I mean, the problem is it's so many levels, and especially with the UC schools, what's not kind of being talked about with this going viral, but we 100% know what happened.

00:49:16.000 So California bans race-based affirmative action officially under their law due to that thing in the 90s.

00:49:24.000 They tried to get rid of it in 2020.

00:49:25.000 And in the same election where, you know, they went for Joe Biden by 30 points or whatever, they failed.

00:49:30.000 They failed to repeal that.

00:49:32.000 It was very funny.

00:49:33.000 They tried to ram it through, and everyone was like, no, I don't like racial discrimination.

00:49:37.000 So the UC system, what they do is they just try to scam this system because what they do is they have the data for who goes to different high schools and they just start letting people in who are totally not qualified for certain schools if they go to the right high schools.

00:49:54.000 And a big reason they do this is they, I'll just say it, they want to increase the Hispanic percentage at a lot of the UC schools.

00:50:01.000 So UC San Diego has just been caught where they're freezing out.

00:50:08.000 They're freezing out.

00:50:12.000 No, they're actually freezing out.

00:50:14.000 I actually think Cliff is wrong.

00:50:17.000 I am wrong?

00:50:19.000 Yeah, no, put that question back up.

00:50:22.000 The original one.

00:50:24.000 No, I'm not sure.

00:50:24.000 7 plus 2.

00:50:26.000 7 plus 2.

00:50:27.000 Yeah, it's not the right answer.

00:50:28.000 It's not the right answer.

00:50:29.000 Throw it up.

00:50:29.000 Throw it up, studio.

00:50:30.000 Not the right answer.

00:50:33.000 9 equals 0.

00:50:34.000 It's very obvious.

00:50:35.000 It's very obvious that the right answer is.

00:50:38.000 I can't believe you guys can't see it.

00:50:40.000 Oh, my God.

00:50:41.000 Right in front of your faces.

00:50:42.000 Fill in the box.

00:50:44.000 Oh, is it 15?

00:50:45.000 I can't even say that.

00:50:46.000 No, the correct answer is obviously the correct answer is obviously 6'7.

00:50:52.000 6'7 right there.

00:50:54.000 Let's get it. 0.67

00:50:54.000 Yes! 0.67

00:50:55.000 Pemdas.

00:50:56.000 Dive in.

00:50:56.000 6'7.

00:50:57.000 Let's go.

00:50:58.000 Shame. 0.61

00:51:01.000 Shame.

00:51:02.000 I really thought my career was over.

00:51:04.000 I was literally like, I was like, we're going to have to edit this whole thing out, aren't we?

00:51:07.000 We're going to just take the stream down to save Cliff Maloney's career.

00:51:11.000 I was like, these boomers don't get it. 1.00

00:51:14.000 They don't get it.

00:51:14.000 6'7.

00:51:15.000 6'7.

00:51:16.000 I have a seven-year-old.

00:51:18.000 Stop saying 6'7.

00:51:19.000 He's only 6'2.

00:51:22.000 It's not funny.

00:51:24.000 Oh, man.

00:51:25.000 Okay.

00:51:27.000 Angelo goes, it's live.

00:51:29.000 You can't edit it out.

00:51:31.000 Thanks, Angelo.

00:51:34.000 Andrew's like, I'm revealing too much.

00:51:38.000 Pop P pops a smoke grenade and disappears.

00:51:40.000 So Angelo brings up a really good point.

00:51:43.000 This is, I think, the crux of the argument here.

00:51:45.000 Philosophically, it feels like the base is at a... inflection point, right?

00:51:52.000 Are we going to burn down the institutions or is it still worth trying to reform them?

00:51:57.000 You can reform them, maybe.

00:52:01.000 By the way, half the chat is saying, I knew he was going to say 6'7.

00:52:05.000 And the other half is like, what is 6-7?

00:52:09.000 Accurate.

00:52:10.000 Very accurate.

00:52:11.000 6-7.

00:52:12.000 6-7.

00:52:12.000 6'7.

00:52:13.000 Mikey, you need to explain to everybody.

00:52:16.000 Mikey, it's not funny.

00:52:16.000 He's a good person.

00:52:17.000 Okay, I'll explain, guys.

00:52:20.000 6-7.

00:52:21.000 6-7.

00:52:22.000 That's kind of right.

00:52:26.000 I don't understand how that even caught.

00:52:27.000 I mean, 6'7.

00:52:28.000 I know.

00:52:29.000 I now no longer support helping Gen Z turn itself around after this meeting. 1.00

00:52:38.000 Because I have spent time with Mikey.

00:52:45.000 All right.

00:52:45.000 Shall we, I think we've hit the...

00:52:48.000 I don't know if we want to answer that question.

00:52:50.000 Can we save the institutions, Blake?

00:52:51.000 Maybe that's a Blake question. 0.98

00:52:54.000 I would probably burn them to the ground. 0.99

00:52:55.000 Like, when Trump says half our colleges would close if we cut off the Chinese students, good. 1.00

00:53:01.000 Good. 0.87

00:53:01.000 A large number of universities and colleges just should be obliterated. 0.87

00:53:06.000 They have become an absolute parasite upon the American body politic.

00:53:11.000 We're making it where to have a normal life, you have to divert four years into a school that we know at this point doesn't teach you many important things.

00:53:22.000 Yet it's like socially required to get married or to have good dating prospects or just to be clubbable.

00:53:29.000 It's clearly become this bizarre thing that has greatly metastasized beyond what it was useful for.

00:53:36.000 It costs a ton of money.

00:53:37.000 It's sucking up actually a lot of talented people who could work in a real field to work instead at places that kind of produce not a lot.

00:53:46.000 No, we need to obliterate these things, blow them to smithereens, be like merit-based, have people get actual jobs again that actually make things, that teach useful skills.

00:53:56.000 And just we need to, we need a cleansing of this country, a great cleansing, a great purge.

00:54:05.000 I'm getting a message in now that's pro soundboard.

00:54:09.000 Throw it out to the chat.

00:54:11.000 I am in the chat, by the way.

00:54:15.000 What does the chat think about the soundboard?

00:54:17.000 Can you understand it?

00:54:18.000 Do you think it's funny?

00:54:19.000 6'7.

00:54:20.000 Oh, yes.

00:54:22.000 Still my favorite.

00:54:23.000 All right.

00:54:24.000 No, that one is good because it's established.

00:54:26.000 The Sobrero is established.

00:54:28.000 The Bollywood is established.

00:54:30.000 Established sounds are good.

00:54:31.000 Jack's part of the establishment.

00:54:33.000 You've got to watch him.

00:54:35.000 I agree with Blake that I want them to.

00:54:37.000 Yeah, okay, Ayn Ray, Ayramboy.

00:54:40.000 Here we go.

00:54:42.000 These things are never going to end until they stop getting funded.

00:54:47.000 The money is going to be the problem.

00:54:48.000 And this is not just the Democrat problem.

00:54:50.000 This is Republicans as well.

00:54:52.000 We keep funding these higher ed institutions.

00:54:54.000 And Charlie always said this, and I never realized how accurate he was about the donor class.

00:54:59.000 You ask the donor class, are colleges indoctrinating their students?

00:55:03.000 100% of them say yes.

00:55:06.000 Then you ask them, are you still giving money to your alma mater?

00:55:09.000 And they all say the same thing.

00:55:11.000 Well, my school, there's a sentimental connection.

00:55:14.000 You see, it's different.

00:55:15.000 It's just like Congress.

00:55:16.000 Everybody hates Congress, but not their congressman, right?

00:55:19.000 They're different.

00:55:20.000 We know him.

00:55:21.000 He's a nice guy.

00:55:22.000 It will not implode if we keep funding it with federal dollars, state dollars.

00:55:28.000 That's the only way you end kind of the charade.

00:55:30.000 The only industry where the cost of the product goes like this and the value of what you're getting goes like this.

00:55:37.000 It's just unsustainable.

00:55:39.000 And we keep funding it.

00:55:40.000 Excellent.

00:55:41.000 So you guys don't know.

00:55:42.000 The chat is completely against me.

00:55:44.000 The chat is completely pro-soundboard.

00:55:46.000 I have been destroyed.

00:55:47.000 It's over.

00:55:48.000 It's over at Pozo.

00:55:50.000 Pozo is done.

00:55:53.000 It's the end of Pozo, guys.

00:55:55.000 This is, I'm checking out.

00:55:57.000 Checking out.

00:56:00.000 Many of us are hopeful about the direction the country is headed.

00:56:03.000 But after years of abuse and mismanagement, things could fall apart at any moment.

00:56:08.000 That's why I and Americans from all walks of life have taken action to prepare for what's coming next.

00:56:13.000 And that starts with having an emergency food supply.

00:56:16.000 Storing food in your home is the right thing to do because we're living in crazy times, which explains why so many people are preparing.

00:56:24.000 Right now, you can get ready too with a three-month emergency food kit from MyPatriot Supply.

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00:56:38.000 This food kit lasts up to 25 years.

00:56:40.000 Who knows what our country will look like then?

00:56:42.000 But when that day comes, you'll be ready.

00:56:44.000 Now, hear from Charlie in his own words.

00:56:46.000 Just go to mypatriotsupply.com/slash K-I-R-K and join millions of Americans who are preparing today at mypatriotsupply.com/slash Kirk. 0.81

00:56:54.000 That is mypatriotsupply.com/slash Kirk.

00:57:00.000 Also, nobody yelled at Andrew for wearing a suit on thought crime.

00:57:03.000 Oh, yeah.

00:57:04.000 Breaking our rules.

00:57:04.000 Breaking all the rules.

00:57:05.000 You know what it is?

00:57:06.000 He's wearing a suit on thought crimes.

00:57:08.000 I didn't even know that was exactly.

00:57:09.000 I know, right?

00:57:10.000 Like, we don't know.

00:57:10.000 That's really tiny.

00:57:12.000 Okay, so this whole Arizona, we talk about time zones.

00:57:15.000 Here's the thing with Arizona: everybody over-air conditions everything.

00:57:20.000 And so I'm constantly cold.

00:57:22.000 And it's a problem, okay?

00:57:24.000 It's cold because you're in a studio.

00:57:27.000 Are you saying you're a little chilly, Andrew?

00:57:28.000 Do you need a blanket?

00:57:30.000 Andrew is a little too low.

00:57:31.000 Barbs, he's coming after Cliff.

00:57:33.000 He's coming after the soundboard.

00:57:35.000 He's coming after me.

00:57:36.000 Andrew is a little bit chilly, Widow Dave. 0.97

00:57:40.000 Andrew is just a little bit cold.

00:57:43.000 It is very cold in here, though.

00:57:45.000 It's cold.

00:57:46.000 Can someone get Andrew some hot cocoa?

00:57:48.000 Do you want a little marshmallows?

00:57:50.000 All right.

00:57:50.000 It is cold.

00:57:52.000 All right.

00:57:52.000 Listen, I think this is a good time to go to the next topic.

00:57:56.000 Which is women in the military.

00:58:00.000 Speaking of room again. 0.97

00:58:02.000 Oh, boy.

00:58:03.000 Speaking of room temperature.

00:58:06.000 Yeah.

00:58:07.000 People were not talking about your IQ, Jack.

00:58:10.000 Let's get up.

00:58:11.000 It's very simple. 1.00

00:58:12.000 Women are wrong about the temperature. 1.00

00:58:16.000 Men need the cool. 0.99

00:58:18.000 Men need to be. 0.95

00:58:19.000 What's the thermostat at in your house, Jack?

00:58:22.000 Temperature.

00:58:23.000 It is at 68 when I'm home.

00:58:26.000 That's cold.

00:58:27.000 But something interesting happens when I go to work and come back because I see 70 and above.

00:58:36.000 I see 72s.

00:58:38.000 I see 73s.

00:58:39.000 I, on occasion, see 75s.

00:58:44.000 And that simply will not do.

00:58:46.000 That simply will not do.

00:58:48.000 We usually keep the studio temperature around 6'7.

00:58:53.000 Yeah, keep it right around 6'7.

00:58:56.000 I think that's my.

00:58:57.000 I keep my apartment at like 78.

00:59:01.000 I actually keep it pretty warm.

00:59:04.000 Jack's reaction.

00:59:08.000 Don't they say that if it's a little bit.

00:59:09.000 I need to see Chad's evaluation of this.

00:59:12.000 Don't they say that if you need to keep it cool for the production of testosterone?

00:59:17.000 Did you know that Taylor Swift keeps her thermostat at 80 degrees?

00:59:20.000 Did you?

00:59:21.000 Checks out.

00:59:22.000 Checks out.

00:59:22.000 Where did you find that information?

00:59:24.000 Is that before Charlie?

00:59:25.000 I brought you the hot.

00:59:27.000 You just asked Grock.

00:59:28.000 What does Taylor Swift?

00:59:30.000 No, I was trying to think.

00:59:30.000 What's that crazy former Washington Post journalist, the Lizards?

00:59:35.000 What? 1.00

00:59:36.000 Taylor Lorenz. 0.97

00:59:37.000 Yeah, she keeps her thermostat at like 86 something.

00:59:41.000 I can't believe I'm going to admit this on air.

00:59:43.000 So I've been up and down about 100 pounds over my last couple, like five years, like gaining and losing.

00:59:49.000 And I'm probably the lower of where I've been.

00:59:52.000 When I was a big, big boy, a lot of tasty cakes, a lot of sugar in the Wawa iced tea.

00:59:59.000 When I was a big boy, I mean, I would keep it very, very cold.

01:00:02.000 But it's funny, like the more weight I lose, like in the hotel rooms, like I used to be like a 67, 6 to 7 type guy.

01:00:10.000 I don't mind it sometimes at 70 or 71.

01:00:13.000 It's not too bad.

01:00:13.000 I get cold.

01:00:14.000 I got less hot.

01:00:15.000 72 and sunny is literally the ideal human temperature.

01:00:19.000 I don't understand.

01:00:20.000 Yeah, I don't know.

01:00:21.000 Listen, that's.

01:00:22.000 No, high temperature is low T behavior.

01:00:24.000 Correct.

01:00:25.000 High temperature is low T behavior.

01:00:27.000 Yes.

01:00:27.000 72 is not hot.

01:00:30.000 That's California.

01:00:31.000 You're coming out.

01:00:32.000 No, it's expansive.

01:00:34.000 It's expansive.

01:00:34.000 So the hotter you go, the lower the T.

01:00:38.000 Well, 72.

01:00:40.000 72.

01:00:40.000 I feel like that hot.

01:00:41.000 A lot of people.

01:00:42.000 When did this become hot?

01:00:44.000 I reject the premise.

01:00:45.000 You're like setting the benchmark it like this obscenely.

01:00:48.000 Are you saying temperature has no effect on testosterone?

01:00:51.000 I'm saying that 72 versus 68 is four degrees, and it's not that much.

01:00:56.000 Jack, what do you have to say about hot tubs?

01:00:59.000 I mean, for limited time only.

01:01:01.000 Like, like you, you set it, you go in, then you get out.

01:01:05.000 Do you like hot tubs, Andrew?

01:01:07.000 Yeah.

01:01:08.000 I'm very pro hot tubs.

01:01:09.000 I literally have the search feature on Airbnb.

01:01:12.000 That's like the one thing I put in.

01:01:13.000 If I'm going to get an Airbnb, I'd love just to have 15 minutes in the hot tub.

01:01:16.000 This is new to me because you came and you're like, Arizona doesn't have hot tubs.

01:01:20.000 That's the one thing I miss about California.

01:01:22.000 Yeah, no, it's weird.

01:01:24.000 Everybody's got a pool, but no hot tubs.

01:01:26.000 But what's funny is that nobody has heating for the pool.

01:01:29.000 And like right now, what is it?

01:01:31.000 November 13th?

01:01:32.000 What are we at right now?

01:01:33.000 And it's too cold to go in the pools without heated pools, in my opinion.

01:01:38.000 Unless you want to go.

01:01:38.000 You're saying in Arizona?

01:01:39.000 Yeah, Arizona.

01:01:40.000 So you really only use your pool during like when it's 120 out or 110 out.

01:01:45.000 Yeah.

01:01:45.000 That's basically the culture around it.

01:01:47.000 Everybody's got pools, but nobody uses them during this time of year.

01:01:50.000 And there's no hot tubs to use.

01:01:52.000 I do a cold plunge.

01:01:54.000 Charlie used to get addicted to cold plunges.

01:01:56.000 Charlie was big on cold plunges.

01:01:57.000 And then he stopped.

01:01:58.000 No, he stopped because it screwed up his central nervous system.

01:02:01.000 Yeah, he was like, he was like, it spikes cortisone levels if you don't do it right.

01:02:07.000 So it was actually, it was too much.

01:02:08.000 He was doing too much, right?

01:02:10.000 He's doing a little too much.

01:02:11.000 Who inspired him?

01:02:12.000 Tony Robbins?

01:02:14.000 Tony Robbins.

01:02:15.000 Tony Robbins inspired him.

01:02:16.000 So he met with Tony and Tony told him, you should do this.

01:02:19.000 It's really good.

01:02:20.000 So he got really into it.

01:02:22.000 And then all of a sudden, he started having this medical condition where he couldn't.

01:02:25.000 Remember, he was like, it was almost like vertigo.

01:02:30.000 So he goes to all these specialists.

01:02:31.000 What's wrong with you?

01:02:32.000 What's wrong with you?

01:02:32.000 Because, you know, Charlie's got a very active life.

01:02:34.000 He's speaking.

01:02:35.000 He's doing this.

01:02:36.000 He's got to do this and that.

01:02:37.000 And then all of a sudden he couldn't stand up and he just had to basically sit down.

01:02:41.000 And they identified that it was probably, most likely, the cold plunges that were screwing up.

01:02:46.000 Do you remember?

01:02:47.000 You remember this?

01:02:48.000 Yeah.

01:02:49.000 All right.

01:02:50.000 Maybe it was something else.

01:02:51.000 Yeah.

01:02:51.000 No, you're right.

01:02:53.000 Anyway, so I've never even delved into the cold plunge because A, it sounds terrible, but B, when Charlie had those issues, because he was starting to tempt me.

01:03:01.000 I was like, oh man, maybe I need to start with cold showers or something in the morning.

01:03:04.000 Do you guys do cold showers in the morning?

01:03:06.000 Everybody says you got to do cold showers in the morning.

01:03:08.000 No.

01:03:09.000 No, I don't do that.

01:03:10.000 All of these things, I'm going to go back to where I was.

01:03:12.000 Almost all of these things are memes because people, yeah, they're woo-woo.

01:03:16.000 Just people want to think there's more super hacks that they can do.

01:03:20.000 And so they come up with strange nonsense where like, yeah, like cold plunges.

01:03:25.000 They just don't.

01:03:26.000 If you like a cold plunge, I guess go for it, but they don't do that much.

01:03:30.000 Cold showers, no.

01:03:31.000 Mikey's disagreeing over here, Blake.

01:03:33.000 Black Pill Blake at it again.

01:03:36.000 Blake used to disagree with Charlie about all this stuff.

01:03:39.000 Like supplements.

01:03:41.000 Yeah.

01:03:42.000 I told him the cold plunges were dumb, and then Charlie had to quit doing the cold plunges. 0.85

01:03:45.000 And I told him. 0.72

01:03:46.000 Charlie was so healthy.

01:03:47.000 Charlie was literally the most healthy.

01:03:49.000 Charlie had all this weird health problem.

01:03:51.000 You know, this is true.

01:03:51.000 Charlie was always complaining about weird stuff.

01:03:53.000 He got vertigo for like two weeks one time.

01:03:56.000 Well, that's what we're talking about.

01:03:57.000 He had like some back issue or whatever.

01:03:59.000 Charlie had like endless weird mindsets.

01:04:01.000 Because he worked harder than anybody else.

01:04:03.000 Well, you know where he actually got the back problems from.

01:04:07.000 You know what he got the back problems from?

01:04:09.000 I was actually with him in Los Angeles when his back like gave out.

01:04:13.000 But what it was, he was running like 10 or 12 miles.

01:04:17.000 This might have been before.

01:04:18.000 He also slipped on black ice, guys.

01:04:19.000 Well, so he was running like 10 to 12 miles a day.

01:04:23.000 And then he was flying commercial across the country.

01:04:27.000 He would have like four commercial flights a day every single day, like every single day.

01:04:31.000 And then find a way to run 10 to 12 miles in a day.

01:04:34.000 And it was just too much.

01:04:35.000 And eventually his back just gave out.

01:04:37.000 At like 27, his back was toast.

01:04:41.000 Yeah.

01:04:42.000 He was the most healthy person.

01:04:44.000 I'm telling you guys right now.

01:04:45.000 Period.

01:04:46.000 It's almost 6'5.

01:04:47.000 Yeah, we're the same height.

01:04:48.000 I didn't know that.

01:04:50.000 I don't think people understand.

01:04:51.000 This is such a first world problem.

01:04:53.000 But being 6'5 and having to fly, I did not fly four flights a day, but I probably fly like four or five flights, you know, every week, depending on what I'm doing.

01:05:02.000 It is so taxing.

01:05:04.000 And like you can't complain to people that are not 6'5 because they just think like I'm just being a pain.

01:05:08.000 But it's like when my legs are lodged into the seat in front of me, flying across the country, like it is miserable.

01:05:15.000 And like you can't, even today flying here, I can't sit up straight because the cushion, like for your head, where it breaks, you can pull it up a little bit, but like it's on my shoulder blades.

01:05:26.000 So you have to sit hunched.

01:05:28.000 It's just that.

01:05:29.000 It's like you got those Viking jeans, bro.

01:05:31.000 So this is something that happens, by the way, Cliff.

01:05:35.000 I know about this because producer Faz, people know he used to, he used to, you know, we don't talk about a ton, but he used to work with a lot of pro wrestlers.

01:05:46.000 And a lot of those pro wrestlers end up with that like bow-legged, sort of odd walk where they're doing that.

01:05:55.000 And it's, it's, people assume it's because of the wrestling, but it's actually because of the flying is according to our producer, that it's because they're flying so much.

01:06:05.000 Yeah, he's here in the chat, and he's just saying that, like, like when you, so you would see Hulk Hogan right before he died.

01:06:11.000 Obviously, a lot of heart issues there.

01:06:13.000 But, you know, all the flying, all the driving.

01:06:16.000 And you're exactly right.

01:06:18.000 It's that cramped up.

01:06:19.000 There's a photo of like Andre the Giant, I think, you know, flying and he's like taking up the whole row basically.

01:06:26.000 And it's just, it's, yeah, when you're that big, cramped up for so long for so many hours, it does mess you up.

01:06:32.000 Yeah.

01:06:32.000 And back to Charlie.

01:06:34.000 He was a million miler on every single airline.

01:06:37.000 He was always in a car.

01:06:38.000 He was always driving across the country.

01:06:40.000 He was always, so you want to wonder why he had back problems?

01:06:43.000 That's why.

01:06:44.000 Wow.

01:06:44.000 Did you know?

01:06:45.000 So Faz is kind of like going off in the chat right now.

01:06:47.000 Throw up this image, Studio.

01:06:49.000 This is one of those cryo-freeze chambers.

01:06:54.000 Cryotherapy.

01:06:54.000 Those are great.

01:06:55.000 So it burns three minutes of cryotherapy will burn 800 to 1,000 calories.

01:07:01.000 That's right.

01:07:02.000 Because of the energy your body expends trying to get you back to a normal temperature.

01:07:09.000 So is that woo-woo, Blake?

01:07:12.000 Yeah, it kind of sounds like woo-woo to me.

01:07:14.000 I'm going to just tell you.

01:07:15.000 Blake's going to say anything's woo-woo.

01:07:16.000 You can literally ask anything.

01:07:18.000 So the thing that always strikes me about Charlie's health regimen, though, was all the hot sauce.

01:07:25.000 Like, that can't be too much hot sauce.

01:07:28.000 Charlie loved sauces.

01:07:29.000 He put sauces on everything.

01:07:32.000 Yeah.

01:07:32.000 He had a sauce collection that he traveled with everywhere he went, and it was in a separate bag.

01:07:40.000 And it was, I'm not even kidding, like 15 different sauces.

01:07:43.000 And he knew the different combinations.

01:07:45.000 He's like, with my chicken, I do two green, one red.

01:07:49.000 And it was good, too.

01:07:51.000 Charlie was like, wait, hold on.

01:07:52.000 Hold on.

01:07:53.000 Okay, hold on.

01:07:54.000 I'm now on the cryo bar cryotherapy.

01:07:58.000 This is a blog post they made from 2020.

01:08:01.000 Does cryotherapy burn calories?

01:08:03.000 And they say the burning of calories is unfortunately one of the lightly researched benefits of cryotherapy.

01:08:11.000 So they basically say, you know, it might happen, maybe.

01:08:14.000 You guys big on hot sauce?

01:08:17.000 Yeah, I. Color one love.

01:08:20.000 So I was like the most Irish potatoes, like plain guy, no spices.

01:08:27.000 And then I got COVID in Florida, which COVID didn't really happen in Florida, but I did get it.

01:08:31.000 And I lost all of my, like, you know, I couldn't taste anything.

01:08:36.000 And so the only thing I could get a reaction from, this is how you know I'm an eater, I'm a fat boy, was using hot sauce because the hot sauce would at least give you something where you could get, you know, something out of the food.

01:08:46.000 I eat a lot of hot sauce.

01:08:48.000 So apparently I'm low tee because I like the thermostat at 72, but I'm high tee because I can eat a lot of hot sauce.

01:08:57.000 I know.

01:08:57.000 It's the Mexican.

01:08:58.000 You know what's so funny?

01:08:59.000 Like, ever since everything happened and I have to be on TV more or whatever, it's like all these people are like, he looks Jewish.

01:09:06.000 He looks super Jewish.

01:09:07.000 And then the other ones are like, because of this show, they're always like, oh, he's quarter Mexican. 0.91

01:09:12.000 So, you know.

01:09:15.000 There it is.

01:09:18.000 Blake is in the chat just saying, woo, woo.

01:09:22.000 It's all, everyone just, they all want, they all want to come up with these like weird, expensive medical hacks that they'll say, solve everything, do these like extreme benefits.

01:09:34.000 It's the same thing they do with food where you're like, oh, I have to go to this special grocery store where all my food costs twice as much, but it gives me like super health and I'm going to live forever.

01:09:45.000 Blake nuts.

01:09:46.000 You just have to do the basics.

01:09:47.000 It's all the basics.

01:09:48.000 I love this.

01:09:49.000 Just do it.

01:09:50.000 Blake, you'll eat a box of 12 Krispy Kremdon donuts.

01:09:55.000 Yeah, and it's great. 0.94

01:09:58.000 Yeah, hit your freaking protein thresholds, lift weights. 0.68

01:10:03.000 Yeah, like, what's your bench, Mikey? 0.93

01:10:05.000 What is it?

01:10:06.000 Blake, get out of here.

01:10:07.000 He's going after everybody.

01:10:10.000 Blake's all the way.

01:10:11.000 Yeah, but who looks better?

01:10:12.000 Oh, God.

01:10:14.000 Okay.

01:10:15.000 We're discussing testosterone levels, and you know what causes meal pattern baldness.

01:10:19.000 That's right.

01:10:21.000 And only one of us has this blinding cape here.

01:10:24.000 Only one of us has this.

01:10:25.000 You do look good, Blake.

01:10:26.000 Yeah, well.

01:10:27.000 Hold on, Cliff.

01:10:28.000 Cliff is coming in.

01:10:31.000 Blake, you weren't on when Jack called me out on live television saying that I need to shave my head.

01:10:36.000 Very nice friend that Jack said it can be.

01:10:38.000 You should increase your power.

01:10:41.000 However, I also took Blake to a bar and we met that nice Mexican cop and he was telling Blake that he should go to Tijuana to get a hair transplant.

01:10:52.000 Wait, where's the music?

01:10:53.000 He did.

01:10:54.000 Oh, man.

01:10:54.000 I forgot about that guy.

01:10:56.000 That was really funny.

01:10:57.000 Blake, he did have a hair transplant.

01:10:59.000 Send Blake and Cliff down to TJ for the hair transplant.

01:11:03.000 We film the whole thing.

01:11:04.000 Guys, we're sitting on money here.

01:11:08.000 That's a bunch of woo-woo. 1.00

01:11:11.000 It probably is.

01:11:12.000 It probably is.

01:11:13.000 I refuse to believe.

01:11:14.000 He took his hat off and he showed like his giant full head of hair.

01:11:18.000 And he's like, he's like, yeah, I used to look like you till I went down to Tijuana.

01:11:23.000 And there, now I look like this.

01:11:28.000 Like, you could benefit from that.

01:11:30.000 Oddly enough, he looked exactly like Andrew.

01:11:35.000 Everyone's trying to rag on me for various things that I like eat, that I'll eat anything, and I don't do all their health woo-woo.

01:11:41.000 And I just feel like I'm really healthy, and I don't have all these weird other problems that people complain about.

01:11:46.000 My main problem is I somehow got like tennis elbow while I was in South Korea, and I don't know how that one happened.

01:11:53.000 Body influence.

01:11:54.000 Because you're not eating enough.

01:11:55.000 Yeah.

01:11:58.000 Good things.

01:11:58.000 Maybe.

01:11:59.000 Someone in the chat is saying, I wonder what Charlie is thinking of your topic.

01:12:02.000 I'm not even sure what our topic is right now.

01:12:05.000 Yeah, we were supposed to talk about women in the military, which they shouldn't be. 1.00

01:12:10.000 Just kick them out of the military. 1.00

01:12:15.000 Have them clip that up.

01:12:16.000 I have a feeling.

01:12:17.000 I feel like libertarian Cliff is.

01:12:22.000 Can I ask you a question on that?

01:12:24.000 Are you still in the middle of the moment?

01:12:25.000 The Libertarians don't want us to have a military at all.

01:12:27.000 So it's funny.

01:12:29.000 Charlie, I always used to tell people that Charlie would actually be one of the, I think I said this on ThoughtCrime a couple weeks ago, but Charlie, when you would go on, he actually would be tough at interviews, especially when I do his show and it was a one-on-one, you know, where he'd just be like, what's going on in PA?

01:12:43.000 Like digging in on the numbers.

01:12:45.000 I don't know when it was.

01:12:46.000 It might have been election night.

01:12:47.000 I mean, we were on for what, eight hours.

01:12:50.000 But he asked me at one point, he said, you know, how does a Ron Paul libertarian go from that to running a ballot chase effort for Donald Trump?

01:13:00.000 And he got mad at my answer.

01:13:02.000 So maybe I shouldn't say it in terms of he thought maybe we'd get demonetized or delisted, whatever it is.

01:13:06.000 But I said, yeah, I'm still a hardcore libertarian.

01:13:11.000 I have my own definition of what that is, small L.

01:13:14.000 But things change when they start to chop the private parts off of our 12-year-old boys and girls and consider it normal.

01:13:25.000 There came a breaking point where the things that do I believe in free markets?

01:13:29.000 Do I believe in free trade?

01:13:30.000 Yes.

01:13:30.000 But you have to look at things in reality, not theory.

01:13:33.000 This is where Jack will be proud of me for being okay with certain protections that Ayn Rand would not be.

01:13:42.000 But I think a lot of the culture stuff just made it where it was like, we got to be in this fight.

01:13:46.000 There's so many libertarians I know out there that want to sit on the sidelines.

01:13:49.000 They want to complain.

01:13:50.000 They want to say, hey, you know, that doesn't pass our purity test.

01:13:55.000 Do you want to save the country or not?

01:13:57.000 And so, yeah, I have a lot of beliefs that, you know, a lot of Republicans in Congress, you know, and a lot of this spending stuff, I got a lot of problems with it.

01:14:07.000 But I think 2024 was like the country was on the brink.

01:14:11.000 And I still feel that way.

01:14:12.000 That's why I'm still doing a lot of America First candidates.

01:14:14.000 And, you know, I would define myself as America First.

01:14:18.000 That's probably the best label I would use.

01:14:20.000 But I just think the people that sat out in 2024, it's like, you got to open your eyes.

01:14:24.000 Like, that was the battle.

01:14:25.000 And we have the battle now, I feel like every single year moving forward.

01:14:30.000 Did that suffice?

01:14:31.000 Yeah, that will said.

01:14:32.000 No, that's helpful. 1.00

01:14:33.000 But it doesn't answer the question about women in the military. 1.00

01:14:36.000 Well, let's play clip 282 and it'll kick us off. 1.00

01:14:38.000 282. 0.95

01:14:40.000 No more social justice, no more political correctness, no more toxic ideological garbage that infected the department.

01:14:47.000 No more identity months, no more DEI offices, no more dudes in dresses. 0.74

01:14:52.000 No more climate change worship, no more division, no more delusions, gender delusions, or quotas, no more distraction.

01:14:59.000 As the chairman of the Joint Chiefs puts it, Pete, you're clearing out the debris.

01:15:04.000 And then CNN reacting.

01:15:06.000 283. 0.98

01:15:08.000 What Pete Hegseth has done, he has pushed women almost completely out of the top ranks of the military.

01:15:15.000 He has.

01:15:15.000 Point blank.

01:15:16.000 Women are 18% of the U.S. military right now. 0.96

01:15:18.000 There are now no members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff who are women.

01:15:21.000 Despite the fact that women are the majority of the population, 18% of the U.S. military, there are zero women on the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

01:15:28.000 In fact, every member of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff right now is a white male.

01:15:31.000 White men are 29% of the population.

01:15:34.000 Is it possible that white men are the only people in the world, in this country, who are qualified to be on the Joint Chiefs of Staff?

01:15:41.000 That's the assumption, I guess, that Pete Hegset, Pete Hegseth wants us to believe.

01:15:46.000 Hmm.

01:15:48.000 Man, you can sound awesome.

01:15:51.000 Jack, you first.

01:15:52.000 For the record, that's not what Pete said at all.

01:15:56.000 It's just not what he said.

01:15:57.000 That's a really good assistance.

01:15:58.000 When he says gender delusions, he's talking about transgenderism. 0.78

01:16:03.000 He's not talking about getting rid of women.

01:16:05.000 And that's just accurate, right?

01:16:08.000 That's just accurate to what he's saying.

01:16:10.000 So, you know, you have to set the frame here.

01:16:13.000 And the frame is that they're just lying about what Secretary Hegset said.

01:16:18.000 He's talking about getting rid of the political nonsense in the military, pitting genders against each other, gender quotas, just all of this nonsense.

01:16:30.000 And so it's the idea here, right?

01:16:32.000 The idea here is, you know, make it so.

01:16:35.000 Now, that being said, that being said, I would say it's simple as this.

01:16:42.000 Why do we have male-female standards for combat, for combat MOSs, for combat jobs, for combat duties?

01:16:51.000 Why do we have male-female standards for different, you know, in those critical capacities? 0.91

01:16:57.000 Why do we have those?

01:16:58.000 If you are going to be in a, you know, in the infantry, if you're going to be in special forces, if you're going to be in EOD, any of these capacities, right?

01:17:07.000 Any of these serious combat capacities, combat units, you've got to have the same standards.

01:17:13.000 It's as simple as that.

01:17:14.000 Because guess what, right?

01:17:16.000 If you got to pull your buddy out from under fire and you can't lift a 200-pound man with, you know, who's loaded with another 100 pounds of gear, then guess what?

01:17:30.000 You're a liability.

01:17:31.000 You're a liability to your unit. 0.92

01:17:33.000 You're a liability to the fight.

01:17:35.000 You're a liability to the mission.

01:17:36.000 You're a liability to the country.

01:17:38.000 And that's something that, by the way, doesn't just cover gender.

01:17:42.000 That's something that would cover people with various health conditions, people, but all sorts of, there's all sorts of reasons that people are denied for certain jobs and certain positions or even entry into the United States military.

01:17:58.000 A lot of people know, I think if you had like childhood asthma and you tell the recruiters that you pretty much can't get into the military.

01:18:04.000 So I mean, there's lots of reasons that we preclude people from the military or certain positions within the military.

01:18:10.000 And I think at the end of the day, what it comes down to is we need to make this, or we just need to go back to what is the most important point of the military.

01:18:18.000 Is it getting the mission done or is it social engineering?

01:18:22.000 Simple as that.

01:18:22.000 Oh, hold on.

01:18:24.000 We have a donation from Big Man S17.

01:18:27.000 I want to read it.

01:18:28.000 He gave us $5.

01:18:29.000 It says, hot take.

01:18:30.000 We protect women. 1.00

01:18:32.000 Women don't protect us. 1.00

01:18:34.000 And I'm going to use that to go from there.

01:18:36.000 I like, in general, Jack, I would agree.

01:18:38.000 It would be an improvement to just say you need to hit a certain minimum standard, whether you are male or female, even if that means it's going to be 95% men, 99% men, 100% men.

01:18:51.000 But I might go further and I might say I do think there's actually probably something wrong with having women in the military generally outside of like truly auxiliary roles, kind of like how we did it in World War II. 0.92

01:19:05.000 Like you had wax, you had certain sort of supplementary roles that you just had lots of women work in.

01:19:12.000 But I do think there's actually something, I think you do lose something once you have women in the infantry, women in the armor, women in like direct immediate combat situations, even if they can pass a certain physical qualification. 0.96

01:19:28.000 I just think there's actually a historical reason these roles in every advanced society, every advanced civilization, were basically, for all intents and purposes, 100% male.

01:19:40.000 And I think 100% male institutions and like groups have like they have certain, they have a certain dynamic to them that you lose once you're introducing women to them.

01:19:53.000 And I think we've seen the side effects of that in our own military.

01:19:56.000 Once you add women into a group, like you're introducing a certain competitiveness element for the men that's not there otherwise, you're just changing what kind of, you're changing what the team is doing, the way the team works. 0.95

01:20:12.000 And I kind of think it's impossible for us to divorce the way the U.S. military has clearly become less effective as a war-winning organization from the fact that we treat it as like a egalitarian gender organization, even if we set the same standards for the sexes.

01:20:30.000 But I also have never been in the military, so I'm probably over my skis a bit.

01:20:35.000 But I know who is that Virginia senator, the Democrat, is it Jim Webb?

01:20:40.000 I think Jim Webb has actually commented on that.

01:20:42.000 He also said he supported hazing in the military for that reason.

01:20:45.000 He said, once you got rid of hazing, it actually did a lot of what he said about the military.

01:20:49.000 He's a Marine.

01:20:50.000 Yeah.

01:20:52.000 I'm going to try to find it.

01:20:53.000 I'm going to try to find it while one of you weighs in.

01:20:55.000 Let me comment.

01:20:56.000 I think Jack thinks I'm going to be anti-military.

01:20:58.000 I believe in a strong military power.

01:21:01.000 I agree with Jack.

01:21:02.000 Merit-based, 100%.

01:21:04.000 Why do we have different standards?

01:21:05.000 This isn't about Title IX in sports. 1.00

01:21:05.000 It's stupid. 1.00

01:21:07.000 This isn't something where we're trying to carve out something to make it fair for women. 1.00

01:21:11.000 We're trying to protect the Republic.

01:21:15.000 We're trying to save America.

01:21:18.000 If you think the biggest fear is China, which I would say if we look at other superpowers, you know, who has the potential to really take out America?

01:21:26.000 It's China. 0.99

01:21:27.000 Guess what percentage of Chinese military are women? 1.00

01:21:31.000 4.5%. 1.00

01:21:33.000 What do we say?

01:21:33.000 What is the clip?

01:21:34.000 18% here in the U.S.?

01:21:35.000 4.5% in China.

01:21:38.000 Think about that.

01:21:39.000 Merit-based is 100% the right answer.

01:21:42.000 And I agree.

01:21:43.000 Pete didn't say that.

01:21:43.000 He's talking about the transgenders and these people that have mental delusions about what sex or gender they are.

01:21:49.000 They should not be in the military, 100% full stop. 0.98

01:21:52.000 But this is about winning the war.

01:21:54.000 And if it's merit-based and if it's about skill sets, you don't break that down by gender.

01:21:58.000 You break that down by skills.

01:22:00.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:22:01.000 And look, Pete Heckseth, he's amazing.

01:22:04.000 But also, I had an opportunity to talk with him at the White House a couple weeks ago.

01:22:08.000 And I just told him, I was like, it's a top-down thing.

01:22:11.000 When there's a man in a position like that that's talking like that, it inspires all of the under, you know, like my brother's in the military.

01:22:21.000 He had to see under the Biden administration, there was a gay pride flag on the ship that he was on. 0.74

01:22:27.000 And then on top of that, there was a transvestite, those on his ship with him.

01:22:33.000 And so I told these stories to Pete, and he was like, look, when I came in, I saw that they were spending hundreds of millions of dollars on recruiting for the military.

01:22:42.000 And when I saw where they were spending this money, they were spending it on the view and these crazy, crazy leftist television shows and programs.

01:22:53.000 It's like, what do you think that produces?

01:22:55.000 What do you think that produces?

01:22:56.000 And he's like, I shut that down immediately. 0.96

01:22:59.000 It produces transvestites that are on ships. 1.00

01:23:03.000 This is not if China's not doing it, why are we doing it? 1.00

01:23:06.000 But it's bigger than just women in the military. 1.00

01:23:08.000 Like, there are legit gender transvestites. 1.00

01:23:14.000 Delulu.

01:23:15.000 Delulus.

01:23:16.000 Yeah, and then on top of that, too, I mean, back to the H-1B thing, and we talked about this on the show.

01:23:22.000 Americans are resilient.

01:23:23.000 Like, we figure it out. 1.00

01:23:25.000 And to women in the military, during World War II, women were making tanks and bullets. 1.00

01:23:30.000 And maybe that's a role for women in the military.

01:23:33.000 I just agree with everything you just said.

01:23:37.000 I'm glad I support Pete Hegseth.

01:23:39.000 Jack, you're totally right.

01:23:40.000 What's getting lost in this argument is that's not at all what Pete Hegset said.

01:23:44.000 So, first of all, it's much ado about nothing.

01:23:46.000 It's a fake conspiracy, fake hoax.

01:23:49.000 Secondly, Blake is right.

01:23:51.000 Male-only fraternities are really powerful.

01:23:54.000 There's something culturally that happens.

01:23:56.000 This is what they did to the Boy Scouts.

01:23:57.000 They ruined that.

01:23:59.000 If you're around all boys and you're trying to learn how to climb the rope, guess what?

01:24:04.000 You're going to fail, until you get that right. 0.99

01:24:07.000 Women come in, the Boy Scouts, you don't want to fail because you don't want to embarrass yourself in front of the girls. 1.00

01:24:12.000 There's just a lot of things like that happen. 1.00

01:24:14.000 Now, are there roles for women in the military that make a lot of sense? 0.98

01:24:18.000 Yeah, I think you could look at the military, the different jobs, the different functions and roles, and find a bunch of good jobs for them, okay? 0.99

01:24:24.000 When it comes to combat troops, when it comes to special ops, special forces, I mean, these are going to be predominantly male anyways, even if you had just a merit-based system.

01:24:33.000 But I think there's something about the male fraternity order that just, from a cultural standpoint, just is absolutely, without a doubt, a thousand percent better if it's all men.

01:24:45.000 Listen, there's no way around it when it comes to healthcare.

01:24:48.000 People are really frustrated with how much it costs and how to pay for it.

01:24:53.000 The usual ways we've been doing this have only gotten more expensive, more complicated, and honestly, just aggravating.

01:24:58.000 And that's why MetaShare is such a welcome relief.

01:25:01.000 It's called healthcare sharing.

01:25:03.000 It's different and it really works.

01:25:05.000 More than a million Americans are now doing this, and MetaShare has been a great option for more than 30 years.

01:25:11.000 So really, you could save thousands of dollars a year on your healthcare and be happy.

01:25:15.000 Imagine that.

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01:25:24.000 If you've heard about it and you want to know more, there are two easy options.

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01:25:40.000 Save money, get great health care.

01:25:41.000 Text the word Kirk, K-I-R-K to 70246.

01:25:45.000 That's Kirk to 70246 to get the facts.

01:25:48.000 That's Kirk to 70246.

01:25:55.000 And I think it's such a lazy argument they made on CNN.

01:25:58.000 It was like all of Trump's cabinet, or you know, he was saying the top military leaders are all white men.

01:26:04.000 Who cares what race they are? 1.00

01:26:07.000 Who cares what gender they are? 1.00

01:26:08.000 Like, I just love that they imagine these quotas and then they compare it to the rest of the United States.

01:26:14.000 We are trying to win wars.

01:26:16.000 We're trying to promote peace.

01:26:17.000 We're trying to have a strong military.

01:26:20.000 But it's just, it's almost sad to me that in 2025, they can still go back to those random talking points of, you see, you know, these blocking people or he's trying to get every woman out.

01:26:29.000 How about we just hire the best people?

01:26:32.000 Well, I mean, the quota system good for you.

01:26:36.000 So, okay, but then we might have to, we have to throw, throw it up, Angelo.

01:26:41.000 Throw up what we're going to have to do if we've sent our best people.

01:26:44.000 Are we going to send Emma and Daisy back to war?

01:26:48.000 We discussed this.

01:26:50.000 This is two years ago, I think.

01:26:53.000 The draft, the draft our daughters episode, where we were like, well, you know, if we're going to add women to the selective service, we may just have to send our women out.

01:27:03.000 And Daisy would fit in even more now because she's pregnant. 0.98

01:27:06.000 She could wear that pregnant flight suit that they made for the Air Force. 0.99

01:27:10.000 But I did find it.

01:27:11.000 I found the Jim Webb article, which is from 1979, and it's awesome.

01:27:15.000 It's titled, Women Can't Fight. 0.96

01:27:18.000 That's the name of it.

01:27:19.000 And I just want to read a little bit of it because it's really evocative.

01:27:21.000 He just opens up. 1.00

01:27:24.000 Women definitely argue, though. 1.00

01:27:26.000 They can fight. 1.00

01:27:27.000 They can argue.

01:27:28.000 They can definitely argue, but can they fight?

01:27:30.000 And so this is Jim Webb.

01:27:31.000 Jim Webb fought in Vietnam, for those who don't know him.

01:27:34.000 He goes, We would go months without bathing, except when we could stand naked among each other next to a village well or in a stream or in the muddy water of a bomb crater.

01:27:45.000 It was nothing to begin walking at midnight, laden with packs and weapons and ammunition and supplies, 70 pounds or more of gear, and still be walking when the sun broke over mud-slick paddies that had sucked our boots out all night.

01:27:59.000 We carried our own gear, and when we took casualties, we carried the weapons of the ones who had been fit.

01:28:04.000 Hit.

01:28:05.000 When we stopped moving, we started digging, furiously throwing out the heavy soil until we made chest-deep fighting holes.

01:28:12.000 When we needed to make a call of nature, we squatted off a trail or we straddled a slit trench that had been dug between fighting holes, always by necessity, always in public view.

01:28:21.000 We swept in makeshift hooches made out of ponchos or simply wrapped up in a poncho, sometimes so exhausted that we did not feel the rain fall on our own faces.

01:28:31.000 We caught hookworm, dysentery, malaria, or yaws, and some of us had all of them.

01:28:36.000 And he, it actually gets like more visceral from here.

01:28:39.000 I don't want to read it forever.

01:28:40.000 It's a quite long piece, but he's just saying, like, this is a purely, like, it is a very, very male environment.

01:28:47.000 And I'm going to skip ahead here, and then I'll let you guys react.

01:28:51.000 And what he says is, he says, let me get it here.

01:28:55.000 Men fight better without women around. 1.00

01:28:58.000 Men treat women differently than they do men, and vice versa. 0.97

01:29:02.000 Some of this is induced by society.

01:29:04.000 Some of this is innate because of the desire to pair off and have sexual relations.

01:29:09.000 These tendencies can be controlled in an eight-hour workday.

01:29:13.000 They cannot be suppressed in a 24-hour, seven days-a-week combat situation.

01:29:19.000 Introducing women into combat units would confuse an already confusing environment, and it would lessen the aggressive tendencies of the units, as many aggressions would be directed inward towards sex rather than outward toward violence.

01:29:35.000 A close look at what has already happened at the Naval Academy during the three years women have attended that institution are testimony to this.

01:29:43.000 It's an amazing piece.

01:29:44.000 It goes on quite long.

01:29:46.000 It looks like it's almost like 10,000 words long, but it's interesting.

01:29:51.000 I just think we've gotten so used to it.

01:29:53.000 We've gotten so used to the rhetoric of, yeah, we should just have an equal standard, but men and women are different that we're almost unable to conceptualize what used to be obvious, which is just men and women are so different, and men are so much more suited for military stuff, and men are so different from women that they operate differently with no women around, that we sort of removed our ability to conceptualize what used to be obvious, which is just the military should be an all-male institution for the most part. 0.87

01:30:22.000 Based.

01:30:24.000 Blake, here's the so Blake, let's get to the real thought crime now, because I think we've, I think we've hit this one out. 0.95

01:30:33.000 We've talked about women in the military, but what about female police officers?

01:30:40.000 Ooh.

01:30:42.000 You know, like, kind of the same thing, I think.

01:30:45.000 Like, there's a lot of jobs in the police force that are effectively paperwork-based.

01:30:52.000 But yeah, similar thing.

01:30:53.000 I think it's probably a problem.

01:30:54.000 It's a problem when TF cops who can't a police.

01:30:58.000 Yeah, yeah, dispatches all that.

01:30:59.000 But the average beat cop, a beat cop should basically be able to beat up maybe like at least at the 85th percentile of the people they're going to encounter.

01:31:13.000 And you get real problems when you have officers out there who are encountering violent, psychotic, dangerous people.

01:31:22.000 And they basically have no way they, you know, if they're at the 10th percentile of physical ability or the fifth percentile or less compared to men.

01:31:30.000 And let's be real, the vast majority of people that they're dealing with are men, and they have nothing to deal with them except tasers or their gun.

01:31:39.000 And I don't have the data in front of me, but I believe female officers are more likely to end up shooting the people they're trying to corral because they have to. 0.99

01:31:48.000 And if you have a normal tall cop who's strong, you know, they can just tackle them. 1.00

01:31:54.000 They can just use the baton.

01:31:55.000 They can beat them down in other ways. 0.69

01:31:57.000 They don't need to shoot them. 1.00

01:31:59.000 But we have this fantasy, probably encouraged by television, where you have kung fu women cops who can weigh 115 pounds and take down that is a fantasy. 1.00

01:32:10.000 That is not reality. 1.00

01:32:12.000 That is a fake world.

01:32:14.000 And it's the same thing that makes people when they have juries where someone does a shooting that's fatal and the jury's like, why didn't they shoot them in the leg?

01:32:22.000 Because that's not real life.

01:32:24.000 In real life, you can't just micro aim at specific body parts to disable someone.

01:32:29.000 And in real life, a 115-pound woman cop is not taking down a 6'2 crazy guy on PCP ever. 0.73

01:32:41.000 I have a very simple answer.

01:32:43.000 A woman that is not able to physically arrest somebody or pass the standard, like Blake said, should not be a cop. 0.99

01:32:50.000 Just like a fat guy, a man who's overweight and is not able to patrol or to catch somebody should also not be a cop.

01:32:58.000 It's just having a standard. 0.58

01:33:00.000 They love the donuts.

01:33:01.000 They love them.

01:33:03.000 Like Blake. 0.92

01:33:05.000 Well, Blake is a fat cop. 0.90

01:33:08.000 He loves the donuts, but he's not a bad person. 0.72

01:33:09.000 As many donuts as I want if I'm not a Tubster. 1.00

01:33:13.000 We actually may have some breaking news.

01:33:18.000 I want to see if they can pull this tweet up.

01:33:20.000 I just threw it in there because it involves us.

01:33:25.000 But just as we were going live, during the show, FBI San Francisco just posted a tweet saying the FBI is seeking the public's help in obtaining any video or images of acts of violence that may have occurred during the November 10th, 2025 Turning Point USA event in Berkeley, California.

01:33:48.000 Video or images can be submitted online, fbi.gov/slash Berkeley TPUSA.

01:33:54.000 And if you click it, they've created a TIP website specifically for this event.

01:34:00.000 So this is incredible.

01:34:02.000 The FBI, I mean, I just want to step back here for a second and as horrific and insane as the violence was, the FBI has gone from investigating conservatives like a year ago today with Arctic Frost and Turning Point and Charlie were definitely targets of that to now actually investigating people who are attacking turning point members on camera.

01:34:29.000 Just what a sea change.

01:34:30.000 And by the way, please, if anyone, you know, if anyone can identify, there's a website, fbi.gov slash Berkeley TPUSA.

01:34:37.000 This is huge.

01:34:38.000 Andrew, this is huge.

01:34:39.000 Yeah, no, and I already retweeted the FBI one, and Harmeet Dillon, Assistant Attorney General, said, Were you at or around the TPSA Berkeley event Monday, November 10th?

01:34:49.000 And she says the FBI San Francisco is seeking digital evidence to support the federal investigation.

01:34:54.000 FBI seeking information on acts of violence at the Turning Point USA event, and she linked to that same thing.

01:35:00.000 So I actually, during our show, I'd gotten that sent to us.

01:35:03.000 I was going to bring it up, but yeah, this is a sea change because I think, you know, kind of on a little bit of a different wavelength, Jack, and I think you'd appreciate this.

01:35:14.000 There's been a lot of consternation.

01:35:16.000 We talked about the H-1B, the 600,000, you know, Chinese visa holders, student visa holders.

01:35:23.000 And there's been this disconnect, it feels, with the administration.

01:35:28.000 And what you're seeing is you saw a clip today from JD Vance saying that we're going to be surging housing supply and we're going to be deported.

01:35:37.000 Mass deportations are going to reduce the overall demand side on housing in the United States.

01:35:44.000 So you've got them messaging now on housing and doing this Gen Z economic revival plan to get people to buy into the economy.

01:35:51.000 And then simultaneously, there was a lot of pushback after the UC Berkeley event.

01:35:56.000 You saw some of our friends like Cernovich basically poking the admin right in the eye saying, hey, are you guys going to step up?

01:36:04.000 Is this all talk?

01:36:05.000 And, you know, I think the base was saying, like, we want action.

01:36:08.000 And here you got the administration coming through and doing active taking action to defend our students and to stand up against Antifa.

01:36:19.000 And then Marco Rubio's been messaging on it.

01:36:21.000 So there's good things happening.

01:36:24.000 That's all I'm saying.

01:36:25.000 The administration is showing the ability and the flexibility to listen to the bass.

01:36:31.000 Very good.

01:36:33.000 So what do you guys think about Christmas lights?

01:36:35.000 Yeah.

01:36:37.000 Jack.

01:36:38.000 Christmas lights, Christmas lights before December are unacceptable.

01:36:44.000 What?

01:36:45.000 Christmas lights before Advent.

01:36:47.000 Advent can sometimes start to happen.

01:36:49.000 No.

01:36:50.000 Yes, it can.

01:36:51.000 Okay, so I will say that Andrew Roger.

01:36:54.000 This year, Advent is, I think, November 27th.

01:36:58.000 So Foz and I were talking about how there's just way more people.

01:37:02.000 There's way more people this year putting up Christmas lights on.

01:37:08.000 Here we go.

01:37:09.000 That's on November 30th.

01:37:10.000 November 30th.

01:37:10.000 Get some spirit in here.

01:37:13.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:37:14.000 There comes Pregnant Daisy. 1.00

01:37:16.000 Well done.

01:37:17.000 No, no, this is terrible.

01:37:19.000 No, this is good.

01:37:21.000 This is good.

01:37:22.000 No, this is completely and utterly wrong.

01:37:24.000 No, this is great.

01:37:26.000 Reject.

01:37:29.000 Completely reject.

01:37:30.000 You guys, you are erasing.

01:37:32.000 You are erasing Thanksgiving.

01:37:34.000 You are erasing Thanksgiving.

01:37:38.000 I need Thanksgiving.

01:37:39.000 This is great.

01:37:40.000 I have a confession, though.

01:37:43.000 I set up for Christmas November 1st.

01:37:47.000 Oh, wow.

01:37:48.000 No, this is unacceptable.

01:37:50.000 That's disease.

01:37:51.000 That's depraved.

01:37:53.000 Well, that's what I'm talking about.

01:37:55.000 That is.

01:37:56.000 Everybody needs a little joy in their life.

01:37:59.000 They're going to stay.

01:38:01.000 No, it's great.

01:38:02.000 99.99 in Phoenix, Arizona.

01:38:05.000 It's already playing Christmas music.

01:38:07.000 Look, everybody needs a little joy in their life, especially at times like this.

01:38:11.000 There's been a lot of chaos for us.

01:38:12.000 And look, you mean like a side swipping?

01:38:14.000 I will not apologize.

01:38:16.000 Joy in your life.

01:38:16.000 Why are you taking not apologize for the happy Christmas?

01:38:22.000 I will not apologize.

01:38:23.000 This year, we've seen a lot more people set up in October.

01:38:26.000 Or after that, it's literally a marketing strategy.

01:38:31.000 It's just marketing for people to buy more stuff earlier, to buy presents earlier, which, of course, the libertarian probably loves.

01:38:42.000 I wonder if this is as hot of a topic as Halloween.

01:38:44.000 We should ask people to email Freedom at Charlie Kirby.

01:38:47.000 Do you set up for Christmas?

01:38:48.000 I mean, the standard is after Thanksgiving.

01:38:51.000 I mean, is that Christmas was never a pagan holiday?

01:38:54.000 It was always after Thanksgiving.

01:38:55.000 It is not based on Saturnalia.

01:38:57.000 Thanksgiving's over and then setting up for Christmas.

01:39:00.000 Listen, I'm an American and we have an American culture, and the American culture said after Thanksgiving, you set up your Christmas lights and you can do all that stuff.

01:39:06.000 I'm with Andrew.

01:39:07.000 Christmas is after Thanksgiving.

01:39:10.000 Also, Advent is the start of the Christmas season.

01:39:13.000 In our house, we keep the tree up from the first Sunday of Advent through Epiphany, basically.

01:39:22.000 Which is usually like early January, correct?

01:39:24.000 January 6th?

01:39:25.000 January 6th.

01:39:26.000 Jan 6th.

01:39:27.000 So Epiphany fixed or is it shift year by year?

01:39:33.000 It's neutered.

01:39:34.000 Pretty sure it's always Jan 6th.

01:39:36.000 Okay.

01:39:37.000 Point is, we now have this abomination in our studio.

01:39:40.000 Because it's 12 days after Christmas.

01:39:42.000 So it's always January 6th.

01:39:45.000 This comment said, Christmas is up November 1st.

01:39:48.000 I'm with Mikey.

01:39:51.000 Yes, you just hate America.

01:39:53.000 I mean, I actually think Mikey's onto something.

01:39:58.000 I think a lot of people have been just like really rocked by this year with what happened to Charlie, with just all the people just want something that they like, and so they're throwing up the Christmas lights early.

01:40:07.000 Let's get some joy.

01:40:08.000 No, no, no.

01:40:09.000 I'm not saying that Christmas is bad.

01:40:11.000 But I am saying that we shouldn't just give away Thanksgiving.

01:40:11.000 Don't get me wrong.

01:40:16.000 I know.

01:40:17.000 Why are we doing that?

01:40:18.000 Because you just throw away one of America's greatest holidays.

01:40:21.000 People like Christmas.

01:40:22.000 I love Thanksgiving.

01:40:23.000 Yeah.

01:40:24.000 I love Thanksgiving.

01:40:25.000 And I will listen to Christmas jazz in the background as I say.

01:40:31.000 Actually, I think I know what the problem is here.

01:40:33.000 I think I know what the problem is here: you guys live in a desert where people are not supposed to live.

01:40:38.000 And so you don't have seasons, which are where normal, which what normal people have.

01:40:42.000 So if you live in a place where there's seasons, it doesn't make sense to have Christmas stuff up when the leaves are changing colors.

01:40:50.000 I agree with this 100%.

01:40:52.000 That's Chris.

01:40:53.000 I think you're right.

01:40:54.000 That has a bunch of woo-woo, as Blake says. 0.95

01:40:56.000 So Thanksgiving is associated with the fall because it's the harvest.

01:41:00.000 And there's and then Christmas is associated with winter, which is another thing that we have in like normal parts of the world.

01:41:06.000 And that's when it's cold and there are no leaves in the trees.

01:41:09.000 So it wouldn't make any sense for Christmas to be up at that time.

01:41:12.000 But since you guys live in an artificially created space like the Sun Valley, where humanity was never supposed to live, God did not intend people to live there.

01:41:22.000 He first flooded it with an ocean.

01:41:24.000 He then put dinosaurs there.

01:41:26.000 He then turned it into a desert.

01:41:27.000 Like he's begging you, do not live in this place.

01:41:31.000 And you guys just don't want to listen.

01:41:33.000 Well, let me know.

01:41:34.000 Holidays, which are based around God's nature, don't make any sense when you apply them to a place like that.

01:41:40.000 This person said Thanksgiving is okay, but Christmas is king.

01:41:44.000 Team Mikey.

01:41:46.000 Way to hate America.

01:41:48.000 Way to just hate America.

01:41:49.000 Now, let me actually backjack up on this.

01:41:52.000 I think there's some nostalgia, especially growing up in Pennsylvania.

01:41:54.000 Like, it's cold for Christmas, right?

01:41:57.000 There is the winter.

01:41:58.000 Exactly.

01:41:59.000 There is that nostalgia of like, and I haven't thought about that.

01:42:02.000 It's not cold right now.

01:42:03.000 It's not so hot here.

01:42:05.000 No, in Pennsylvania.

01:42:06.000 No.

01:42:07.000 I mean, it's turning, but it's cold.

01:42:09.000 If the definition for Christmas is cold, there's a lot of places that have Christmas in the U.S. right now.

01:42:14.000 Yeah, but I think that's what Jack's saying I agree with is that it kind of connects in a weird way.

01:42:18.000 That's like, I don't know, like when I get off the plane here, how hot is it here right now?

01:42:23.000 He's on fire.

01:42:24.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:42:26.000 I just think there's something about that.

01:42:28.000 We are agreeing, though, that the normal timeline across the country gets very cold.

01:42:28.000 I don't.

01:42:33.000 After Thanksgiving.

01:42:34.000 It gets very cold here.

01:42:35.000 At nighttime, it reaches like 80.

01:42:38.000 That is the traditional timeline.

01:42:40.000 After Thanksgiving, you set up for Christmas.

01:42:42.000 But you're just admitting that you're not agreeing.

01:42:44.000 No, actually, I disagree.

01:42:46.000 In fact, since I was like 17, my tradition in life has always been October 31st at midnight, I play All I Want for Christmas.

01:43:00.000 No.

01:43:01.000 And I continue the tradition to this day.

01:43:03.000 Please stop selling that song.

01:43:04.000 This is also American just from a secular perspective because of Black Friday.

01:43:10.000 So Black Friday is Black Friday because it is traditionally seen as the first day of the Christmas shopping season.

01:43:17.000 That's why Black Friday exists.

01:43:19.000 You guys have a lot of talk.

01:43:20.000 I'm talking about Black Friday.

01:43:22.000 So Mikey Nomics are an affront to reality, and Mikey Nomics are something that we should completely oppose. 1.00

01:43:30.000 I'd be the great peacemaker here.

01:43:32.000 Our heart, body, and soul, because pretty much everything from Mikey we should oppose.

01:43:37.000 And Black Friday exists, again, because it's the first day of the Christmas shopping season.

01:43:44.000 Here's the difference.

01:43:44.000 Mikey, I think what Mikey is saying is that you can still celebrate Thanksgiving while you're setting up, while you're celebrating Christmas.

01:43:51.000 And Jack, you're saying that, no, if you start setting up for Christmas, you're pretty much blunting out Thanksgiving and not giving it its full time.

01:43:58.000 It's Thanksgiving eraser.

01:43:59.000 It's totally Thanksgiving erasure.

01:44:02.000 I will go to Starbucks tomorrow and enjoy a peppermint mocha.

01:44:06.000 Red food diet.

01:44:07.000 No, see, it's still pumpkin spice season.

01:44:10.000 I'm going to argue with this back as an example.

01:44:13.000 I'm taking this back is encroaching on this.

01:44:16.000 It is pumpkin spice season.

01:44:18.000 If Christmas is so great, why don't you just have the Christmas decorations up all year?

01:44:24.000 Yeah.

01:44:24.000 Okay.

01:44:25.000 Fun story, though, because so on New Year's Eve last year, Charlie and I flew straight to Florida for the transition team stuff and then straight to DC.

01:44:37.000 So I didn't even, I wasn't able to take down my Christmas decorations outside.

01:44:41.000 And I didn't come back from the East Coast.

01:44:43.000 So I basically was on the East Coast with Charlie for a month and a half, almost two months.

01:44:48.000 So I didn't take down my Christmas lights until late February this year.

01:44:55.000 Hold on, hold on.

01:44:56.000 Hold on.

01:44:59.000 So you set up.

01:45:00.000 No, that's not shameful.

01:45:01.000 That's not shameful because Candlemas is February 2nd.

01:45:04.000 No, give me the full timeline of you having the feast of the presentation is February 2nd.

01:45:09.000 So it's about people keep it up until about February 2nd, the Feast of the Presentation of Jesus in the Temple.

01:45:15.000 See, Jack's got my back.

01:45:17.000 Thank you, Jack.

01:45:19.000 I'm okay with you having it up for a longer time.

01:45:22.000 He's got to answer this, Jack.

01:45:23.000 He's got to answer this.

01:45:24.000 What was my back?

01:45:25.000 What was your full timeline, Mikey, of Christmas?

01:45:28.000 About November 10th through February.

01:45:32.000 Got him.

01:45:33.000 Wait, so this is basically...

01:45:34.000 Wait, hold on, Mikey.

01:45:35.000 I just realized something.

01:45:37.000 Wait, wait, guys.

01:45:38.000 Mikey's been cuffing.

01:45:40.000 That's what he's doing.

01:45:41.000 This is cuffing season that he's talking about.

01:45:44.000 I'm married.

01:45:45.000 Do you guys not know about cuffing season?

01:45:47.000 Are you serious?

01:45:47.000 Oh, gosh.

01:45:48.000 October through March.

01:45:51.000 No.

01:45:51.000 Look at the...

01:45:52.000 Yes, I do know cuffing season.

01:45:55.000 No, cuffing season 6'7.

01:45:56.000 Wait, Mike, you know cuffing season.

01:45:58.000 Yes, of course.

01:46:00.000 Yeah, these guys, the boomers don't know it again. 0.95

01:46:02.000 Cuffing season is because during the winter, like during the winter holidays, mistletoe, baby.

01:46:08.000 People hook up and start like a relationship just so that they can have a date for all these various holidays, so they can sit together in the cold and stream stuff together, stream movies or whatever, TV series is.

01:46:22.000 And it's basically like, yeah, it's like October through Valentine's Day, give or take.

01:46:27.000 And then, so it means you're handcuffed together.

01:46:30.000 That's the whole point.

01:46:31.000 You're handcuffed together through all the holidays during this time.

01:46:36.000 And then the guys who don't know that they were just being cuffed, they realize that after Valentine's Day, they get cut loose and they have no idea.

01:46:45.000 This reminds me of Baby It's Cold Outside, the Christmas song.

01:46:49.000 So, watch out, boys and girls.

01:46:51.000 Watch out, young people. 1.00

01:46:52.000 I really can't stay.

01:46:53.000 Baby, it's cold outside.

01:46:55.000 Here's a question.

01:46:56.000 My mother will worry.

01:46:57.000 Thanksgiving.

01:46:58.000 Do you guys have Thanksgiving parades where you're from?

01:47:00.000 Yeah.

01:47:01.000 Was Santa in the Thanksgiving parade?

01:47:04.000 That was Thanksgiving.

01:47:06.000 The day of Thanksgiving.

01:47:07.000 So you can play Christmas music on Thanksgiving.

01:47:10.000 You can watch Christmas movies on Thanksgiving because it's like you're ushering in the season.

01:47:16.000 No, you should watch Thanksgiving movies on the movie.

01:47:18.000 It's a quarter of the year.

01:47:21.000 I mean, listen, the reason you don't do it up.

01:47:25.000 Hold on, Blake.

01:47:25.000 I got to answer.

01:47:26.000 I want to flag this.

01:47:28.000 Go ahead.

01:47:30.000 Well, I was just going to say, we got another donation from Big Man S17.

01:47:35.000 He says, guys, y'all don't even know how much joy this show brings to my night.

01:47:39.000 I am working almost every day until 1 a.m.

01:47:43.000 It makes my week.

01:47:45.000 All I can say is thank you.

01:47:46.000 My name is Cade, but I can't change my name, he says.

01:47:51.000 Thank you.

01:47:52.000 I like Cade.

01:47:52.000 Thank you.

01:47:53.000 Cade, you're a patriot.

01:47:53.000 We appreciate you.

01:47:54.000 So here's why you don't keep Christmas decorations up all year, even if you're going to be a weirdo like Mikey and do it like after Halloween.

01:48:03.000 Here's why.

01:48:04.000 Because variety is the spice of life.

01:48:07.000 It's special because it's a limited time offering only.

01:48:13.000 So to Jack's point, I like to limit that win.

01:48:16.000 If you make yourself wait even longer, it gets even more special, I think.

01:48:21.000 You condense the specialness into a more higher octane of Christmas specialness.

01:48:27.000 That's fine.

01:48:28.000 That's fine, Mikey, if you disagree.

01:48:29.000 I disagree.

01:48:30.000 Do you have Christmas decorations up right now in your house?

01:48:33.000 Yes.

01:48:33.000 Yeah, but that's from last year.

01:48:37.000 That's great.

01:48:38.000 But yeah.

01:48:40.000 It's great.

01:48:41.000 And lights are outside, too.

01:48:43.000 Oh, I forgot about that.

01:48:44.000 Baby, it's cold outside.

01:48:46.000 Went through all that criticism.

01:48:47.000 The rape undertones. 0.66

01:48:49.000 There's a stand-up comedian.

01:48:50.000 It's just cuffing scenes.

01:48:51.000 There's a stand-up comedian that does his bit where he talks about how that song got all this fire for the undertones, and then it was, I can't say this on air, W-A-P-WAP, that song.

01:49:04.000 And he read the lyrics to WAP and then read the lyrics to that and saying, like, it's hilarious that we allow whatever.

01:49:12.000 Should we do that right now?

01:49:13.000 I don't think so.

01:49:14.000 No, no.

01:49:15.000 We should rap before Mikey pulls up the lyrics.

01:49:19.000 Jack, you want to take us home?

01:49:22.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, but you're dealing with something wet and wet.

01:49:27.000 Bring a bucket and a mop.

01:49:30.000 Bring a bucket and a mop for this wet and disgusted. 0.96

01:49:33.000 No, no, no. 0.67

01:49:34.000 Give me a hands. 0.81

01:49:36.000 It's disgusting.

01:49:38.000 Baby it's cold outside, not baby, it's wet on the floor. 0.99

01:49:41.000 It's disgusting.

01:49:42.000 Oh, see, Mac truck.

01:49:46.000 Mac truck reference.

01:49:48.000 And actually, maybe WAP is a Thanksgiving song because it does have the word gobble in it.

01:49:55.000 All right.

01:49:56.000 Welsh. 0.63

01:49:57.000 That's good.

01:49:58.000 This would be right about the time where Charlie would be like, why would you tweet that Christmas movie?

01:50:03.000 Charlie would be dying.

01:50:05.000 You should tweet that.

01:50:07.000 Why not?

01:50:08.000 It's a give take.

01:50:09.000 I'll tweet it right now.

01:50:10.000 You think I'm scared?

01:50:11.000 I'll tweet it right now.

01:50:15.000 I mean.

01:50:16.000 WAP should be a Thanksgiving song since gobble gobble.

01:50:24.000 Hashtag it.

01:50:25.000 Word.

01:50:26.000 No, just one gobble.

01:50:27.000 There's only one gobble.

01:50:28.000 Oh, this is why lyrics imply coercion or pressure to stay, especially the line, say, what's in this drink?

01:50:38.000 I forgot that line in it.

01:50:40.000 I mean, bring a bucket.

01:50:42.000 It was the 1940s.

01:50:43.000 There wasn't roofies in the 1940s, was there?

01:50:46.000 Anyways.

01:50:47.000 All right.

01:50:47.000 Jack.

01:50:48.000 No, it's just a guy.

01:50:49.000 He's wooing her.

01:50:50.000 He's wooing her.

01:50:52.000 Yes.

01:50:52.000 He's wooing her WAP.

01:50:54.000 He's just wooing her WAP. 1.00

01:50:55.000 Oh, gosh.

01:50:56.000 See, now.

01:50:57.000 He's just wooing her WAP. 1.00

01:50:58.000 This is where Charlie is pleased.

01:51:01.000 All right.

01:51:03.000 Just wooing her WAP. 1.00

01:51:04.000 That's all it is.

01:51:04.000 All right.

01:51:05.000 We're going to go.

01:51:06.000 It is Thursday.

01:51:08.000 In our new time.

01:51:10.000 I'm going to take us home because somebody has to.

01:51:12.000 We're counting on you.

01:51:13.000 Remember, keep committing thought crimes.

01:51:21.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - November 15, 2025

THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 105 — Woman-Free Miitary? End All H-1Bs? November Christmas Decorations?

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