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00:02:58.000Can I just say since we're going to bring it up, since we're going to bring it up, since we're going to bring it up, East Coast time is the best time, period.
00:03:41.000We have a rule at Citizens Alliance that Eastern Time is the Lord's time.
00:03:48.000I will say, you know, what does not get enough respect is Central Time or Mountain Time because then you're kind of like splitting the difference.
00:03:55.000Central Time doesn't deserve any respect.
00:03:57.000Well, I'm just saying, from a quality of life standpoint, it's not as bad as you'd think because, you know, at least you are roughly on the same time zone as the East Coast.
00:04:08.000You're just one hour behind, so it's not like terrible if you have to do East Coast timing things.
00:04:12.000But you've got West Coast games when the Dodgers are in the World Series and you're watching the World Series on West Coast time.
00:04:55.000It's Arizona time because it is the only time zone in America that is never on daylight savings time, which is this curse and blight upon the peoples of this earth.
00:05:29.000But you know, it was funny because Politico was writing this up at one point.
00:05:33.000Did you know there's actually a foundation for keeping us or getting rid of all the daylight savings time?
00:05:40.000And they were like sending stuff to me and they were like, retweet our stuff.
00:05:44.000And I was like, hey, this is pretty good.
00:05:46.000And, you know, they were like pulling up like Bible quotes and different health studies.
00:05:51.000There are political action committees dedicated to this issue.
00:05:54.000Yeah, and then Politico wrote it up and they came to me and they were like, did Donald Trump tell you to start tweeting about getting rid of daylight savings time?
00:06:28.000I do like a kind of funny thing, an artifact of me moving out, is I actually still have my computer on Eastern time because the show is on Eastern time.
00:06:39.000But it keeps me from getting messed up.
00:06:42.000Keeps me from getting messed up if I fly somewhere.
00:06:46.000And I just, I always basically intuitively know, you know, let's just pay attention.
00:06:53.000Because that's where most things are going on.
00:06:55.000That's where the show time is always on.
00:06:58.000I do like things generally happening earlier in Arizona.
00:07:03.000I do think there's this psychotic need to keep everything very late at night out east.
00:07:09.000So I kind of like that the Super Bowl begins as an afternoon event.
00:07:14.000I like that the NFL basically is rolling as soon as church is over, even if I go early in the morning.
00:07:22.000Yeah, I'm just kind of becoming a sucker for all these things that happen early in the day, which is accentuated by the fact that you're a traitor.
00:07:31.000It's accentuated by the fact that we don't have devilish daylight savings time in Arizona.
00:07:42.000So the sun is rising in the morning as it should.
00:07:46.000And then it is setting in the evening when we should be preparing to sleep.
00:07:51.000And so all things are in alignment under Arizona time, whereas the East Coast goes and they rebel against God because they hate God on the East Coast.
00:08:14.000They want to stay up late on the East Coast because they want to watch. late night television shows like Jimmy Kimmel that are on very late at night.
00:08:24.000And this is just part of their general evil dynamic on the East Coast.
00:08:29.000And yet Jimmy Kimmel is broadcast from the West Coast, Blake.
00:10:02.000A funny thing, if you really want to be intensely pedantic, and I think it's caused issues before when we schedule things, is, you know, we'll send out those emails when we're doing the AMA with subscribers.
00:10:12.000And technically, even when we're on Pacific time due to daylight savings time being practiced in the heathen lands, we're just always on mountain standard time.
00:10:33.000This causes no end of trouble, which could all be eliminated if we eliminated the heathen daylight savings time and its rebellion against God, which is the cause of most natural disasters in the United States.
00:10:47.000I just have this vision of Blake winning the lottery and spending all of the money on lobbying the U.S. government to make everything like Arizona.
00:10:54.000But Blake, you said I thought Hawaii also doesn't do time change.
00:14:16.000They brought it back during the Great Depression because FDR thought that there would be more shopping if there was more daylight and this would stimulate the economy.
00:14:35.000That's how you know, because we have to go back to the middle.
00:14:36.000We call it every year during the election.
00:14:38.000I figured the election folks would remember this, but they count obviously the first half, and then you've got a little piece of the panhandle.
00:14:47.000That covers it, but that's how wide the panhandle is that it dips in the central time zone.
00:14:52.000I knew that because I went to Destin, and I kept showing up an hour late to phone calls, and I had no idea that there was a central time zone in Florida.
00:15:01.000I do feel bad for the states that are like cut in half, right?
00:15:04.000Because you've got Tennessee, Eastern Tennessee is on Eastern, Western Tennessee is on Central.
00:15:08.000Eastern Kentucky, Eastern, Western, Idaho, same thing.
00:15:12.000Indiana has parts of Eastern, parts of Western.
00:15:15.000And did you know that the farthest west that the East Coast time goes is to the Upper Peninsula, but half of the Ethiopia Peninsula is on East Coast, half of it is on West Coast.
00:16:19.000Well, Blake, can I at least get you to agree on this?
00:16:22.000That if we do start messing around with the times at all, that we should also take GMT away from London and make U.S. East Coast time the sort of international standard for zero.
00:16:39.000I'm torn on that one because Britain is a benighted country that has become kind of third world.
00:16:46.000But GMT was created by Britain when it was a great country.
00:17:01.000But what I'm saying is you make, you know, you just make like American, like AST, American Standard Time, and that's, or American Mean Time, and that's East Coast, and that's zero now.
00:17:12.000And force everyone else to change their clocks off of us.
00:17:16.000Wouldn't we just still call it Greenwich Meridian Time and we just set it to like Greenwich, Connecticut?
00:17:50.000It's kind of blown up cyclically over the past year, but it blew up again this week because President Trump had an interview with Laura Ingram on Fox, and they hit a lot of different topics.
00:18:03.000But a big thing that came up was H-1Bs because a lot of people have said we should have an immigration freeze.
00:18:39.000And does that mean the H-1B visa thing will not be a big priority for your administration?
00:18:44.000Because if you want to raise wages for American workers, you can't flood the country with tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of foreign workers.
00:21:10.000The emails were ugly for the Trump administration.
00:21:12.000And I think, like, listen, if there's an opportunity where we could get rid of H-1B altogether and maybe expand the genius visa, but actually ensure that their geniuses, I'd be more open-minded to that conversation.
00:21:26.000But the way that the communication came off, it was kind of rough.
00:21:42.000But, you know, it's genuinely interesting because the H-1B has bounced back and forth a lot.
00:21:48.000And like the truth is, is America does have a talent issue.
00:21:52.000The problem is that it's actually significantly created by H-1Bs.
00:21:56.000And, you know, there's a lot of good stuff pointing this out.
00:21:59.000Like, a reason not as many people are going into STEM fields as you'd call it is like we lowered the wages for it because we brought in so many H-1Bs in certain fields.
00:22:10.000And another thing we did is we screwed up the education pipeline.
00:22:13.000Like, for example, getting a PhD in something like computer science, something like physics, something engineering related.
00:22:21.000Way fewer Americans are getting PhDs in that.
00:22:35.000Because you can come to the U.S., study to get a PhD, and in addition to whatever money you're getting, you can get a visa to live and work in America at the end of it.
00:22:44.000And so effectively, they get paid way more while they're studying because they're getting something hugely valuable, which is U.S. citizenship or a path to citizenship as a side effect of it.
00:23:05.000And on top of that, you know, we make it lower status because we've kind of signaled, oh, like certain fields are things tons of immigrants do.
00:23:14.000And, you know, being a fresh off-the-boat immigrant worker is not as high status as working in various other high-powered fields.
00:23:21.000So unsurprisingly, Americans have gone into jobs like finance, like law, like consulting that have fewer immigrants in them.
00:23:29.000A lot of those jobs, you need to know English a lot more fluently than you do in hard STEM fields.
00:23:34.000So we basically just massively borked our own skill pipeline.
00:23:38.000And then they turn around and they're like, oh, Americans just don't want to do these jobs or Americans are too dumb to do these jobs.
00:23:44.000And it's like, no, we just actively screwed them up.
00:23:47.000And if you look at the America that landed a man on the moon, yeah, there were some immigrants who worked at NASA.
00:23:52.000There were some immigrants who worked on the Manhattan Project.
00:23:54.000But 95 plus percent of that workforce was grown in America.
00:24:00.000And we have a perfectly smart population to continue doing that.
00:24:07.000Yeah, I actually totally agree with this, but I also, I think it's more like soft incentive structures.
00:24:14.000So, yeah, you could look at wages, you could look at this and that.
00:24:17.000But what's probably what I've seen, and I've talked to, one of the things I would do when we'd go on these campus tours, I'd talk to people like, hey, why don't you pursue that?
00:24:26.000And some of the more honest kids would just be like, well, listen, like, it's all like Indians and Chinese kids that are in those classes.
00:24:33.000There's something about wanting to be around people that you recognize and that you relate to.
00:24:38.000And when you, when you want, as you're an American kid now and you want to go be an engineer, you want to be a, you know, go into these STEM fields and you look around, you're like, none of them are like me.
00:28:14.000Let in about a million legal immigrants into the United States of America every single year.
00:28:18.000And I think the evidence is pretty clear that a lot of those immigrants are actually undercutting the wages of American workers.
00:28:23.000It's one of the reasons why the President of the United States, it's one of the reasons why the President of the United States and a lot of us in the administration have encouraged H-1B reform.
00:28:33.000Because if you look at the H-1B visa, what it's supposed to be, what it's supposed to be is that you have a super genius who's studying at an American university, who's working at a great company.
00:28:44.000You want that super genius to stay in the United States of America and not go somewhere else.
00:28:48.000What it's actually used to do is hire an accountant at a 50% discount to an American citizen.
00:28:56.000I don't think that we should be hiring accountants from foreign countries when we've got accountants right here in the United States that would love to work for a good wage.
00:29:10.000I think that's where we all kind of come on this issue because you had Trump kind of sounding a different tone, but that was connected to this 600,000 Chinese student visa holders also.
00:29:22.000And I have to read into this a little bit.
00:29:24.000So the timing of this interview, and then you have this press conference with Kash Patel, basically, was it the next day or two days after saying that China has agreed to cut off all these precursors to fentanyl.
00:29:37.000So the sympathetic reading here is that Trump was trying not to scuttle a deal that was in the process of happening and wanted to send friendly vibes to President Xi.
00:29:48.000Yeah, but I think you've got two different problems here.
00:29:51.000And that is the argument about, hey, do we want to have immigration for manual labor jobs, the jobs that actual Americans likely do not want to do, right?
00:30:01.000Now, will they adjust if they have to?
00:30:03.000But I think JD's point, like, if we're talking about accountants, like, that's a good paying job that Americans would be very happy to have.
00:30:13.000I just think they're two very different conversations.
00:30:15.000And I think JD understands how to package that in a way.
00:30:18.000Because when people hear that, it's not, oh, hotel workers.
00:30:45.000It's that, like, yes, you can come up with a justification for almost everything they do, yet we've heard these explanations for decades, and the clear long-run result is basically great replacement and tons of scams and just this general displacement of the American people.
00:31:03.000And as I was saying, a lot of where we're dependent on immigration or immigrants are doing the jobs Americans won't do, it's like actively because we brought in so many immigrants.
00:31:14.000Like there's a recent, I saw a recent article where a ski resort is claiming they need to bring in foreign workers, I think guest workers in this case, to be ski bums at a ski mountain because no one in America is willing to ski, spend winter skiing to be a ski bum.
00:31:29.000No one in America, and like they'll probably do this for lifeguards at like nice beaches because no one in America is willing to work as a lifeguard.
00:31:35.000We never had a super popular TV show about Americans doing exactly that.
00:31:40.000Like, we have actively messed up so many pipelines into work.
00:32:24.000Yeah, and it's literally like it's, well, I guess you would say poppy in that case, but it's, it's literally just like we've become worshipers of the GDP.
00:32:35.000Like, do conservatives actually care about conserving anything other than the GDP?
00:32:42.000Like, the social order or the social fabric or patriotism or our Christian background or our heritage or any of these things.
00:32:50.000Like, like, you talk to some of these guys, it's literally, they're like, oh, GDP, GDP, GDP.
00:32:55.000First of all, the GDP doesn't even exist.
00:32:57.000It's like, it's like an economic model.
00:33:20.000There are certain businesses that are doing well.
00:33:22.000There are certain segments of the population that are doing well, typically older segments.
00:33:28.000But no, it is not good for everybody out there.
00:33:31.000And worship of the GDP is going to destroy the Republican Party, the conservative movement, the MAGA movement, and ultimately the United States of America.
00:33:39.000And I just want to be very clear about this.
00:33:46.000So just want to make sure everyone understands that.
00:33:48.000Yeah, but I think the question is, do we really understand a word of it?
00:34:35.000And really, if you're just driving to work and driving home, hanging out with your kids, you have no idea what the heck they're talking about.
00:34:40.000But then you get on social media and you're just like, everything's crazy and everything's awful.
00:35:07.000It took a decade of us having one of the most dramatic political fights of Trump's 1.0, his exile, and Trump 2.0 for us to finally, as a country, go, okay, we probably don't like this.
00:35:35.000Well, and this debate reminds me of the big Trump moment at the first debate against Hillary, or one of them in 2016, where he says, you know, the famous line, well, you've been in office for 40 years, and you know how I know you're not going to change the tax code?
00:36:08.000That's the battle right now, which is you're going to have tons of CEOs, business owners, different people that are going to be pushing the president and the administration to actually come out and say, listen, we need workers at our hotels.
00:36:44.000It's another way that H-1B stuff actually has screwed everything up.
00:36:48.000And it's if you look at it, it actually squares with some of the economic turbulence people have talked about lately, where if you look at the economic data, things are still pretty good if you're an older worker, like an established professional.
00:37:02.000The economy is kind of humming along fine.
00:37:04.000There's actually a good number of job openings.
00:37:06.000Where it's really bad is entry-level workers, the workers just out of college.
00:37:11.000And yet they're still saying we need to bring in a bunch of foreign workers because they can't fill jobs.
00:37:15.000And it's kind of true because where we have a bottleneck is specifically entry-level jobs.
00:37:20.000And this is partly a product of what Charlie would love to talk about, which is college being a scam.
00:37:25.000You don't learn useful things in college.
00:37:28.000Even if you're studying a technical field, you don't really learn how to do the jobs in that field getting that degree.
00:37:35.000You learn those by getting entry-level jobs in that field.
00:37:38.000You learn to be a programmer by being a programmer.
00:37:41.000You learn to be an engineer by being an engineer.
00:37:43.000You learn to work in media by working in media.
00:37:53.000But yet there's like kind of, it's almost a meme that there's like infinite jobs out there that require five years experience in something.
00:37:59.000And what we've gotten ourselves into here is we've gotten ourselves into this H-1B situation where companies have like very little incentive to provide training to like provide that sort of thankless on-the-job training for people because then an employee can just leave.
00:38:16.000And so they just decide everyone should just already know how to do the job when we're going to hire them.
00:38:23.000So like an actual policy thing we need to do is we need to make it so a company has an incentive to just train new people to do their job.
00:38:30.000And it's not like we're unable to do this because we actually have a pretty big institution in America that is able to train Americans to do jobs.
00:38:37.000Even kind of dumb Americans, even Americans who like might only have a high school education and we still need to train them to do technical things.
00:39:13.000But there's also like guys with no college degree.
00:39:16.000I bet not every single guy on a submarine needs to be that smart to work on the nuclear submarine.
00:39:23.000Well, you are if you're working in the nuclear power plant.
00:39:27.000Maybe, but it's probably not as smart as you need to be to get a PhD in nuclear engineering.
00:39:32.000There are people with PhDs in nuclear engineering in the military, Blake.
00:39:35.000There are, there are, but I bet you don't need to have one to work on the nuclear submarine, including in the nuclear stuff.
00:39:42.000You do just military training complex stuff all the time.
00:39:47.000The point that I'm making is that actually there is a sorting process when you join the military so that they test people's intelligence, which is kind of like illegal in like every other field.
00:39:57.000I know we've talked about this before, where they actually can, you know, they do sort people by intelligence and they say, okay, you know, you're this type of age range called the ASVAB on the enlisted side.
00:40:08.000So you're in this age range, IQ range.
00:40:14.000You're going to be here, et cetera, et cetera.
00:40:16.000And it's something that actually works.
00:40:18.000When it's done with the right, when you take the DEI quotients and all that randomness out of it, it actually can be used really, really well because you can find, like, certain people just don't have what it takes to be a nuclear engineer.
00:40:31.000And in fact, you can test that while testing someone's intelligence.
00:40:35.000You don't have to just put them through the pipeline and see what happens.
00:40:38.000And so I think it's actually something that we should look to as, you know, probably a pretty good model for, you know, just this rest of these things that we're talking about.
00:40:47.000Like, for example, I don't know, the workforce.
00:40:50.000You know, what's interesting as well is that this is brought back up Vivek Ramaswamy's Christmas Saved by the Bell infamous tweet.
00:41:00.000And you know what I didn't realize is that that tweet, that original one, that caused all that kerfuffle in December, has 125 million engagements.
00:41:28.000He says, the reason top tech companies often hire foreign-born and first-generation engineers over Native Americans isn't because of an innate American IQ deficit.
00:41:48.000And if we're really serious about fixing the problem, we have to confront the truth at all caps.
00:41:55.000I mean, do we think that the American culture, Blake, you're saying that the H-1B problem is self-perpetuating, that it creates its own problem.
00:42:04.000When we drown out certain industries with foreign-born workers, American workers either get priced out or they no longer go into those fields because they're looked at as foreign-based fields.
00:42:15.000Is there an innate culture problem that we have?
00:42:20.000I think culture to some extent is created by, it's almost an unintended side effect of a bunch of choices we make.
00:42:29.000And, you know, it's often commented one of the issues, one of the things people complain about with H-1Bs is they will say, like, a company will let in a few H-1Bs.
00:42:38.000Maybe a lot of them are from specifically India.
00:42:40.000And then over time, it just gets more and more foreign.
00:42:43.000And eventually it's like a foreign shop.
00:42:45.000Well, that's a real cultural issue because, you know, you probably reach a tipping point there where if it's 75% people of foreign origin, now it's like, why would I want to go work there?
00:42:57.000Where a lot of the guys, maybe they don't even talk in English when they're in the office.
00:43:00.000They prefer to speak a different language.
00:43:04.000They may sort of see you in a hostile way.
00:43:08.000There's all of these dynamics that go on.
00:43:09.000And then when that happens at a society-wide level, you eventually have a different country.
00:43:15.000And when you're doing this to important skilled fields, which a lot of the stuff that we do with H-1Bs is important stuff that's important for our most sophisticated and advanced and technical companies, you're messing up the whole country.
00:43:29.000And we have, because we've made it so easy to bring in foreigners for those highly technical fields, we've basically de-skilled the American population in a way that's really damaging.
00:43:42.000And I think, you know, we're focusing on the H-1Bs a lot because that's been the meme.
00:43:55.000The fact that we've made it so easy for colleges to bring in more foreigners to fill their PhD programs, I think is a huge issue.
00:44:03.000And a big reason the colleges do it is just so they can pay PhDs less to be adjunct professors.
00:44:10.000It's absolutely insane to me that we would devalue PhDs for Americans, like super highly skilled work, just so that, you know, freaking Tufts University can pay an adjunct professor $40,000 a year instead of $55,000 a year or whatever amount it is.
00:44:28.000I think you just hit on something that's actually, it's the college scam that's behind a lot of this because the universities can't pay full, native-born students don't pay full freight.
00:44:48.000A lot of these student visa problems, when you talk about this clip, 600,000 Chinese students, they're coming over and they're basically keeping the lights on at a lot of these universities.
00:44:59.000And then on top of that, just to defend Trump a little bit, the president, our universities are failing our students here in America.
00:45:06.000Like we're just not producing the type of students that can qualify for jobs like this.
00:45:11.000And instead of it actually being like an in-depth PhD or degree, it'd be the sociology and understanding of accounting for lesbians.
00:45:23.000And these are like the degrees that you're getting instead of actually like producing good students or trade schools, which is what Charlie used to advocate for.
00:45:31.000Let me make, I don't think I've ever talked about this.
00:45:34.000Before I got in politics, I was a math teacher.
00:46:11.000And I went there one time for dinner after school, a couple buddies of mine from college, and I walk in and he's literally in my fifth grade class.
00:46:58.000And by the way, they're poor of the poor.
00:47:01.000They're not like, you know, people that are very well-to-do sending their kids to some great school.
00:47:06.000So I don't look at it like that because if you look at it like that with, you know, let's say white Americans or, you know, your everyday blue-collar American, I think it's even worse the lower you go in the socioeconomic statuses because there's just no, it's such a lack of discipline that the other cultures have.
00:47:22.000Well, to your point, it's kind of depressing.
00:47:24.000If you should throw up image 239, this is UCSD's Math 2 course teaches grade school math.
00:47:30.000That's grades one through eight to freshmen.
00:48:44.000But that does suggest at a top five public university in the country that majorities of students couldn't round to the nearest hundred.
00:48:54.000Yeah, and listen, math is going to be our biggest problem because if you miss a couple history lessons, but you, you know, give you a lot of money.
00:48:59.000But this suggests that it's different.
00:49:01.000This suggests that the problem is arising in high school and middle school and elementary school.
00:49:06.000Well, the problem, I mean, the problem is it's so many levels, and especially with the UC schools, what's not kind of being talked about with this going viral, but we 100% know what happened.
00:49:16.000So California bans race-based affirmative action officially under their law due to that thing in the 90s.
00:49:33.000They tried to ram it through, and everyone was like, no, I don't like racial discrimination.
00:49:37.000So the UC system, what they do is they just try to scam this system because what they do is they have the data for who goes to different high schools and they just start letting people in who are totally not qualified for certain schools if they go to the right high schools.
00:49:54.000And a big reason they do this is they, I'll just say it, they want to increase the Hispanic percentage at a lot of the UC schools.
00:50:01.000So UC San Diego has just been caught where they're freezing out.
00:53:01.000A large number of universities and colleges just should be obliterated.
00:53:06.000They have become an absolute parasite upon the American body politic.
00:53:11.000We're making it where to have a normal life, you have to divert four years into a school that we know at this point doesn't teach you many important things.
00:53:22.000Yet it's like socially required to get married or to have good dating prospects or just to be clubbable.
00:53:29.000It's clearly become this bizarre thing that has greatly metastasized beyond what it was useful for.
00:53:37.000It's sucking up actually a lot of talented people who could work in a real field to work instead at places that kind of produce not a lot.
00:53:46.000No, we need to obliterate these things, blow them to smithereens, be like merit-based, have people get actual jobs again that actually make things, that teach useful skills.
00:53:56.000And just we need to, we need a cleansing of this country, a great cleansing, a great purge.
00:54:05.000I'm getting a message in now that's pro soundboard.
01:02:53.000Anyway, so I've never even delved into the cold plunge because A, it sounds terrible, but B, when Charlie had those issues, because he was starting to tempt me.
01:03:01.000I was like, oh man, maybe I need to start with cold showers or something in the morning.
01:03:04.000Do you guys do cold showers in the morning?
01:03:06.000Everybody says you got to do cold showers in the morning.
01:04:53.000But being 6'5 and having to fly, I did not fly four flights a day, but I probably fly like four or five flights, you know, every week, depending on what I'm doing.
01:05:04.000And like you can't complain to people that are not 6'5 because they just think like I'm just being a pain.
01:05:08.000But it's like when my legs are lodged into the seat in front of me, flying across the country, like it is miserable.
01:05:15.000And like you can't, even today flying here, I can't sit up straight because the cushion, like for your head, where it breaks, you can pull it up a little bit, but like it's on my shoulder blades.
01:05:29.000It's like you got those Viking jeans, bro.
01:05:31.000So this is something that happens, by the way, Cliff.
01:05:35.000I know about this because producer Faz, people know he used to, he used to, you know, we don't talk about a ton, but he used to work with a lot of pro wrestlers.
01:05:46.000And a lot of those pro wrestlers end up with that like bow-legged, sort of odd walk where they're doing that.
01:05:55.000And it's, it's, people assume it's because of the wrestling, but it's actually because of the flying is according to our producer, that it's because they're flying so much.
01:06:05.000Yeah, he's here in the chat, and he's just saying that, like, like when you, so you would see Hulk Hogan right before he died.
01:06:11.000Obviously, a lot of heart issues there.
01:06:13.000But, you know, all the flying, all the driving.
01:08:20.000So I was like the most Irish potatoes, like plain guy, no spices.
01:08:27.000And then I got COVID in Florida, which COVID didn't really happen in Florida, but I did get it.
01:08:31.000And I lost all of my, like, you know, I couldn't taste anything.
01:08:36.000And so the only thing I could get a reaction from, this is how you know I'm an eater, I'm a fat boy, was using hot sauce because the hot sauce would at least give you something where you could get, you know, something out of the food.
01:09:18.000Blake is in the chat just saying, woo, woo.
01:09:22.000It's all, everyone just, they all want, they all want to come up with these like weird, expensive medical hacks that they'll say, solve everything, do these like extreme benefits.
01:09:34.000It's the same thing they do with food where you're like, oh, I have to go to this special grocery store where all my food costs twice as much, but it gives me like super health and I'm going to live forever.
01:10:41.000However, I also took Blake to a bar and we met that nice Mexican cop and he was telling Blake that he should go to Tijuana to get a hair transplant.
01:12:29.000Charlie, I always used to tell people that Charlie would actually be one of the, I think I said this on ThoughtCrime a couple weeks ago, but Charlie, when you would go on, he actually would be tough at interviews, especially when I do his show and it was a one-on-one, you know, where he'd just be like, what's going on in PA?
01:12:47.000I mean, we were on for what, eight hours.
01:12:50.000But he asked me at one point, he said, you know, how does a Ron Paul libertarian go from that to running a ballot chase effort for Donald Trump?
01:13:50.000They want to say, hey, you know, that doesn't pass our purity test.
01:13:55.000Do you want to save the country or not?
01:13:57.000And so, yeah, I have a lot of beliefs that, you know, a lot of Republicans in Congress, you know, and a lot of this spending stuff, I got a lot of problems with it.
01:14:07.000But I think 2024 was like the country was on the brink.
01:15:16.000Women are 18% of the U.S. military right now.
01:15:18.000There are now no members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff who are women.
01:15:21.000Despite the fact that women are the majority of the population, 18% of the U.S. military, there are zero women on the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
01:15:28.000In fact, every member of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff right now is a white male.
01:16:08.000That's just accurate to what he's saying.
01:16:10.000So, you know, you have to set the frame here.
01:16:13.000And the frame is that they're just lying about what Secretary Hegset said.
01:16:18.000He's talking about getting rid of the political nonsense in the military, pitting genders against each other, gender quotas, just all of this nonsense.
01:16:58.000If you are going to be in a, you know, in the infantry, if you're going to be in special forces, if you're going to be in EOD, any of these capacities, right?
01:17:07.000Any of these serious combat capacities, combat units, you've got to have the same standards.
01:17:16.000If you got to pull your buddy out from under fire and you can't lift a 200-pound man with, you know, who's loaded with another 100 pounds of gear, then guess what?
01:17:38.000And that's something that, by the way, doesn't just cover gender.
01:17:42.000That's something that would cover people with various health conditions, people, but all sorts of, there's all sorts of reasons that people are denied for certain jobs and certain positions or even entry into the United States military.
01:17:58.000A lot of people know, I think if you had like childhood asthma and you tell the recruiters that you pretty much can't get into the military.
01:18:04.000So I mean, there's lots of reasons that we preclude people from the military or certain positions within the military.
01:18:10.000And I think at the end of the day, what it comes down to is we need to make this, or we just need to go back to what is the most important point of the military.
01:18:18.000Is it getting the mission done or is it social engineering?
01:18:34.000And I'm going to use that to go from there.
01:18:36.000I like, in general, Jack, I would agree.
01:18:38.000It would be an improvement to just say you need to hit a certain minimum standard, whether you are male or female, even if that means it's going to be 95% men, 99% men, 100% men.
01:18:51.000But I might go further and I might say I do think there's actually probably something wrong with having women in the military generally outside of like truly auxiliary roles, kind of like how we did it in World War II.
01:19:05.000Like you had wax, you had certain sort of supplementary roles that you just had lots of women work in.
01:19:12.000But I do think there's actually something, I think you do lose something once you have women in the infantry, women in the armor, women in like direct immediate combat situations, even if they can pass a certain physical qualification.
01:19:28.000I just think there's actually a historical reason these roles in every advanced society, every advanced civilization, were basically, for all intents and purposes, 100% male.
01:19:40.000And I think 100% male institutions and like groups have like they have certain, they have a certain dynamic to them that you lose once you're introducing women to them.
01:19:53.000And I think we've seen the side effects of that in our own military.
01:19:56.000Once you add women into a group, like you're introducing a certain competitiveness element for the men that's not there otherwise, you're just changing what kind of, you're changing what the team is doing, the way the team works.
01:20:12.000And I kind of think it's impossible for us to divorce the way the U.S. military has clearly become less effective as a war-winning organization from the fact that we treat it as like a egalitarian gender organization, even if we set the same standards for the sexes.
01:20:30.000But I also have never been in the military, so I'm probably over my skis a bit.
01:20:35.000But I know who is that Virginia senator, the Democrat, is it Jim Webb?
01:20:40.000I think Jim Webb has actually commented on that.
01:20:42.000He also said he supported hazing in the military for that reason.
01:20:45.000He said, once you got rid of hazing, it actually did a lot of what he said about the military.
01:21:18.000If you think the biggest fear is China, which I would say if we look at other superpowers, you know, who has the potential to really take out America?
01:22:01.000And look, Pete Heckseth, he's amazing.
01:22:04.000But also, I had an opportunity to talk with him at the White House a couple weeks ago.
01:22:08.000And I just told him, I was like, it's a top-down thing.
01:22:11.000When there's a man in a position like that that's talking like that, it inspires all of the under, you know, like my brother's in the military.
01:22:21.000He had to see under the Biden administration, there was a gay pride flag on the ship that he was on.
01:22:27.000And then on top of that, there was a transvestite, those on his ship with him.
01:22:33.000And so I told these stories to Pete, and he was like, look, when I came in, I saw that they were spending hundreds of millions of dollars on recruiting for the military.
01:22:42.000And when I saw where they were spending this money, they were spending it on the view and these crazy, crazy leftist television shows and programs.
01:22:53.000It's like, what do you think that produces?
01:23:59.000If you're around all boys and you're trying to learn how to climb the rope, guess what?
01:24:04.000You're going to fail, until you get that right.
01:24:07.000Women come in, the Boy Scouts, you don't want to fail because you don't want to embarrass yourself in front of the girls.
01:24:12.000There's just a lot of things like that happen.
01:24:14.000Now, are there roles for women in the military that make a lot of sense?
01:24:18.000Yeah, I think you could look at the military, the different jobs, the different functions and roles, and find a bunch of good jobs for them, okay?
01:24:24.000When it comes to combat troops, when it comes to special ops, special forces, I mean, these are going to be predominantly male anyways, even if you had just a merit-based system.
01:24:33.000But I think there's something about the male fraternity order that just, from a cultural standpoint, just is absolutely, without a doubt, a thousand percent better if it's all men.
01:24:45.000Listen, there's no way around it when it comes to healthcare.
01:24:48.000People are really frustrated with how much it costs and how to pay for it.
01:24:53.000The usual ways we've been doing this have only gotten more expensive, more complicated, and honestly, just aggravating.
01:24:58.000And that's why MetaShare is such a welcome relief.
01:26:17.000We're trying to have a strong military.
01:26:20.000But it's just, it's almost sad to me that in 2025, they can still go back to those random talking points of, you see, you know, these blocking people or he's trying to get every woman out.
01:26:29.000How about we just hire the best people?
01:26:32.000Well, I mean, the quota system good for you.
01:26:36.000So, okay, but then we might have to, we have to throw, throw it up, Angelo.
01:26:41.000Throw up what we're going to have to do if we've sent our best people.
01:26:44.000Are we going to send Emma and Daisy back to war?
01:26:53.000The draft, the draft our daughters episode, where we were like, well, you know, if we're going to add women to the selective service, we may just have to send our women out.
01:27:03.000And Daisy would fit in even more now because she's pregnant.
01:27:06.000She could wear that pregnant flight suit that they made for the Air Force.
01:27:31.000Jim Webb fought in Vietnam, for those who don't know him.
01:27:34.000He goes, We would go months without bathing, except when we could stand naked among each other next to a village well or in a stream or in the muddy water of a bomb crater.
01:27:45.000It was nothing to begin walking at midnight, laden with packs and weapons and ammunition and supplies, 70 pounds or more of gear, and still be walking when the sun broke over mud-slick paddies that had sucked our boots out all night.
01:27:59.000We carried our own gear, and when we took casualties, we carried the weapons of the ones who had been fit.
01:28:05.000When we stopped moving, we started digging, furiously throwing out the heavy soil until we made chest-deep fighting holes.
01:28:12.000When we needed to make a call of nature, we squatted off a trail or we straddled a slit trench that had been dug between fighting holes, always by necessity, always in public view.
01:28:21.000We swept in makeshift hooches made out of ponchos or simply wrapped up in a poncho, sometimes so exhausted that we did not feel the rain fall on our own faces.
01:28:31.000We caught hookworm, dysentery, malaria, or yaws, and some of us had all of them.
01:28:36.000And he, it actually gets like more visceral from here.
01:29:04.000Some of this is innate because of the desire to pair off and have sexual relations.
01:29:09.000These tendencies can be controlled in an eight-hour workday.
01:29:13.000They cannot be suppressed in a 24-hour, seven days-a-week combat situation.
01:29:19.000Introducing women into combat units would confuse an already confusing environment, and it would lessen the aggressive tendencies of the units, as many aggressions would be directed inward towards sex rather than outward toward violence.
01:29:35.000A close look at what has already happened at the Naval Academy during the three years women have attended that institution are testimony to this.
01:29:46.000It looks like it's almost like 10,000 words long, but it's interesting.
01:29:51.000I just think we've gotten so used to it.
01:29:53.000We've gotten so used to the rhetoric of, yeah, we should just have an equal standard, but men and women are different that we're almost unable to conceptualize what used to be obvious, which is just men and women are so different, and men are so much more suited for military stuff, and men are so different from women that they operate differently with no women around, that we sort of removed our ability to conceptualize what used to be obvious, which is just the military should be an all-male institution for the most part.
01:30:59.000But the average beat cop, a beat cop should basically be able to beat up maybe like at least at the 85th percentile of the people they're going to encounter.
01:31:13.000And you get real problems when you have officers out there who are encountering violent, psychotic, dangerous people.
01:31:22.000And they basically have no way they, you know, if they're at the 10th percentile of physical ability or the fifth percentile or less compared to men.
01:31:30.000And let's be real, the vast majority of people that they're dealing with are men, and they have nothing to deal with them except tasers or their gun.
01:31:39.000And I don't have the data in front of me, but I believe female officers are more likely to end up shooting the people they're trying to corral because they have to.
01:31:48.000And if you have a normal tall cop who's strong, you know, they can just tackle them.
01:31:59.000But we have this fantasy, probably encouraged by television, where you have kung fu women cops who can weigh 115 pounds and take down that is a fantasy.
01:32:14.000And it's the same thing that makes people when they have juries where someone does a shooting that's fatal and the jury's like, why didn't they shoot them in the leg?
01:33:08.000He loves the donuts, but he's not a bad person.
01:33:09.000As many donuts as I want if I'm not a Tubster.
01:33:13.000We actually may have some breaking news.
01:33:18.000I want to see if they can pull this tweet up.
01:33:20.000I just threw it in there because it involves us.
01:33:25.000But just as we were going live, during the show, FBI San Francisco just posted a tweet saying the FBI is seeking the public's help in obtaining any video or images of acts of violence that may have occurred during the November 10th, 2025 Turning Point USA event in Berkeley, California.
01:33:48.000Video or images can be submitted online, fbi.gov/slash Berkeley TPUSA.
01:33:54.000And if you click it, they've created a TIP website specifically for this event.
01:34:02.000The FBI, I mean, I just want to step back here for a second and as horrific and insane as the violence was, the FBI has gone from investigating conservatives like a year ago today with Arctic Frost and Turning Point and Charlie were definitely targets of that to now actually investigating people who are attacking turning point members on camera.
01:34:39.000Yeah, no, and I already retweeted the FBI one, and Harmeet Dillon, Assistant Attorney General, said, Were you at or around the TPSA Berkeley event Monday, November 10th?
01:34:49.000And she says the FBI San Francisco is seeking digital evidence to support the federal investigation.
01:34:54.000FBI seeking information on acts of violence at the Turning Point USA event, and she linked to that same thing.
01:35:00.000So I actually, during our show, I'd gotten that sent to us.
01:35:03.000I was going to bring it up, but yeah, this is a sea change because I think, you know, kind of on a little bit of a different wavelength, Jack, and I think you'd appreciate this.
01:35:16.000We talked about the H-1B, the 600,000, you know, Chinese visa holders, student visa holders.
01:35:23.000And there's been this disconnect, it feels, with the administration.
01:35:28.000And what you're seeing is you saw a clip today from JD Vance saying that we're going to be surging housing supply and we're going to be deported.
01:35:37.000Mass deportations are going to reduce the overall demand side on housing in the United States.
01:35:44.000So you've got them messaging now on housing and doing this Gen Z economic revival plan to get people to buy into the economy.
01:35:51.000And then simultaneously, there was a lot of pushback after the UC Berkeley event.
01:35:56.000You saw some of our friends like Cernovich basically poking the admin right in the eye saying, hey, are you guys going to step up?
01:38:57.000Thanksgiving's over and then setting up for Christmas.
01:39:00.000Listen, I'm an American and we have an American culture, and the American culture said after Thanksgiving, you set up your Christmas lights and you can do all that stuff.
01:39:53.000I mean, I actually think Mikey's onto something.
01:39:58.000I think a lot of people have been just like really rocked by this year with what happened to Charlie, with just all the people just want something that they like, and so they're throwing up the Christmas lights early.
01:40:54.000That has a bunch of woo-woo, as Blake says.
01:40:56.000So Thanksgiving is associated with the fall because it's the harvest.
01:41:00.000And there's and then Christmas is associated with winter, which is another thing that we have in like normal parts of the world.
01:41:06.000And that's when it's cold and there are no leaves in the trees.
01:41:09.000So it wouldn't make any sense for Christmas to be up at that time.
01:41:12.000But since you guys live in an artificially created space like the Sun Valley, where humanity was never supposed to live, God did not intend people to live there.
01:43:44.000Mikey, I think what Mikey is saying is that you can still celebrate Thanksgiving while you're setting up, while you're celebrating Christmas.
01:43:51.000And Jack, you're saying that, no, if you start setting up for Christmas, you're pretty much blunting out Thanksgiving and not giving it its full time.
01:44:25.000Fun story, though, because so on New Year's Eve last year, Charlie and I flew straight to Florida for the transition team stuff and then straight to DC.
01:44:37.000So I didn't even, I wasn't able to take down my Christmas decorations outside.
01:44:41.000And I didn't come back from the East Coast.
01:44:43.000So I basically was on the East Coast with Charlie for a month and a half, almost two months.
01:44:48.000So I didn't take down my Christmas lights until late February this year.
01:46:00.000Yeah, these guys, the boomers don't know it again.
01:46:02.000Cuffing season is because during the winter, like during the winter holidays, mistletoe, baby.
01:46:08.000People hook up and start like a relationship just so that they can have a date for all these various holidays, so they can sit together in the cold and stream stuff together, stream movies or whatever, TV series is.
01:46:22.000And it's basically like, yeah, it's like October through Valentine's Day, give or take.
01:46:27.000And then, so it means you're handcuffed together.
01:46:31.000You're handcuffed together through all the holidays during this time.
01:46:36.000And then the guys who don't know that they were just being cuffed, they realize that after Valentine's Day, they get cut loose and they have no idea.
01:46:45.000This reminds me of Baby It's Cold Outside, the Christmas song.
01:47:54.000So here's why you don't keep Christmas decorations up all year, even if you're going to be a weirdo like Mikey and do it like after Halloween.
01:48:51.000There's a stand-up comedian that does his bit where he talks about how that song got all this fire for the undertones, and then it was, I can't say this on air, W-A-P-WAP, that song.
01:49:04.000And he read the lyrics to WAP and then read the lyrics to that and saying, like, it's hilarious that we allow whatever.