00:00:52.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:02:28.000It reminded me when I went to Israel and they told me I was going to get blown up by a terrorist bomb or something, and everybody was living happily as could be, and things were fine.
00:02:37.000So, anyways, and then did you, I don't know if you saw this, Jack, but all those images of Dodger Stadium, that was totally, they have almost like a reflective concrete top.
00:02:47.000So it looked like it was flooding, but Dodger Stadium is completely fine in Los Angeles.
00:02:52.000So unfortunately, God will smite them eventually.
00:03:18.000So we got news, and this was just as I was going to air with Human Events at the 2 p.m. Eastern show today, that essentially there was an assassination, it seems like an assassination of Pregozhin, the head,
00:03:34.000or former head, I should say, of the Wagner group, this mercenary group that had been involved in years of operations with the Russian military or alongside the Russian military in Syria, in parts of Africa, and then most recently in Ukraine.
00:03:49.000I think most famously, they were involved in the taking of Bakhmut, the city which ended up being a strategic choke point for a lot of the Ukrainian forces.
00:04:00.000So they were fighting out that battle while Russia was building their defensive lines and counter defenses throughout the entire area that the entire area that they were able to control since the invasion of Ukraine last year.
00:04:27.000It was hard to say outside exactly what was going on whether or not it was real because he sends these tanks up through these main highways, main thoroughfares of Russia, and then eventually says that he's going to not take out Putin, but he's targeting some members of the Russian high command, the Kremlin high military command, Sergei Shoigu, the head of their government, or head of their military, rather.
00:04:52.000And so all of a sudden, Putin says, okay, turn back and no harm will come to you.
00:05:07.000Or so it seemed until about 2 p.m. today when his aircraft was shot out of the sky outside of Moscow.
00:05:17.000And pretty much every source has come out now, Russian, Ukrainian, Western, all saying that it looks like this was shot down by an anti-aircraft missile.
00:05:25.000And so it seems as though we got our answer as to whether or not the coup was real or not.
00:06:20.000I tweeted out a few weeks ago that even though I'm on the RNC, I'm boycotting the debate because I don't think that any real conservatives should go support Fox News.
00:06:32.000So I am in my hotel room hanging out with you guys on live stream here tonight while everybody's down watching the vice presidential debate at Pfizer Forum that's just a couple blocks away over here.
00:06:44.000But I'm here in Milwaukee for RNC meetings that are in conjunction with the debate that's happening.
00:06:51.000And yeah, it's just been really interesting.
00:06:53.000It's been really funny to see everything kind of playing out here while we've been in Milwaukee for the last couple days.
00:07:00.000You know, I think that it's just like it's such a clear and away situation now where everybody's just like understood that this debate and everything moving forward is really for the second spot.
00:07:12.000And so it's going to be really interesting to see how the reaction is because I got a couple of things that I think are going to happen.
00:07:20.000Blake's probably going to disagree with it, but we'll go and we'll see how that works.
00:07:25.000So I don't know when we want to jump into it.
00:07:29.000Well, then we've also got to talk about the fact that we have Tucker and Trump, which is going to be launching in about 15 minutes here.
00:07:36.000So we're going to have to see if we can get some of that before the debate starts to see whether or not we can get some clips, have some salient moments here.
00:07:44.000Because, of course, he's asked about his decision, and Tucker released a little trailer of it earlier, just a one-minute clip.
00:07:50.000So, this was recorded several days ago at Bedminster, and there was that moment where I think one of the staffers posted a selfie with Tucker, and then she had to delete it.
00:07:59.000But people kind of, you know, the cat was sort of out of the bag at that point that Tucker had been up at Bedminster to record this interview.
00:08:04.000It looks like Trump was asked why he didn't decide to go to the debate.
00:08:08.000And of course, we already knew that the charges were imminent.
00:08:11.000I don't know if they knew that the arraignment would actually be happening tomorrow, so that one day after the debate.
00:08:20.000And that really is going to be the big elephant in the room tonight.
00:08:23.000You know, these candidates are going to be on stage in an eight-pack of these guys and gals who are going to be trying to have their breakout moment.
00:08:31.000Well, at the same time, they know the frontrunner of the entire thing is being indicted by a local prosecutor tomorrow morning or tomorrow afternoon.
00:08:40.000Guys, this is just a reminder for everybody that's just joining too.
00:08:43.000Charlie's going to be joining us here live in just a little bit.
00:08:47.000So we're excited for what's coming up.
00:09:25.000There's really not that many members of the media that are here.
00:09:29.000So I know they were all getting set up probably over at the forum, but I was expecting a whole lot more to be wandering around.
00:09:36.000It's going to be really interesting to see what happens tomorrow.
00:09:39.000I actually think tomorrow is going to be the most interesting day here in Milwaukee because everybody that's hanging out and hanging over are going to, all the media, everyone else are going to be wanting to get reactions.
00:09:51.000And again, like I said, I'm ditching the debate.
00:09:53.000We're watching it here together and commenting on it.
00:09:57.000But, you know, I just think that this whole thing's stupid.
00:09:59.000I mean, there's, you know, I'll just give you my take.
00:10:02.000And I've tweeted this out quite a bit and talked about this.
00:10:05.000I think the RC completely screwed this up.
00:10:36.000The second thing, though, is this is most people don't realize this, but the sponsor, the key sponsor of this debate outside of Rumble is an organization called Young America's Foundation.
00:10:47.000And the Young Americas Foundation was the original youth organization that kind of came about in a big way during the Reagan years.
00:10:56.000Before that, it was really got founded in the 60s, but then took on new legs in the 80s and beyond that in the 90s.
00:11:04.000They really dropped the ball and just became this kind of just like, you know, for all our listeners, all our viewers, to give somebody context, they became like kind of this neocon light type organization.
00:11:16.000Anyways, long story short, they're a 501c3.
00:11:19.000They're a nonprofit, and they're sponsoring this Republican debate, which is totally crazy to me.
00:11:24.000But Mike Pence, after he came out of being vice president, basically went to work for them full-time.
00:11:30.000He became a fellow of Young America's Foundation of YAF, and he was getting paid to be a fellow and speaking and doing all this stuff.
00:11:41.000You know, it doesn't matter that it's you know, Young Americans Foundation and they hate us because they're a bunch of neocons and they're mad that you know Turning Point got bigger than them and everything else.
00:11:51.000The point is, is that any organization that's paid one of the presidential candidates that's going to be on the stage, you know, shouldn't be shouldn't be one of the sponsors.
00:11:59.000So, between that and Fox News being sponsors, I think it's totally insane that everyone just should just be cool with that because it's not cool.
00:12:09.000And that's part of the reason why I'm not there.
00:12:12.000And Tyler, so I do want everyone to know that we are going to be posting.
00:12:16.000We're going to, you know, if the technical side of this works out for us, we are 15 minutes out, but we are actually going to be streaming the debate here.
00:12:24.000And this is because Rumble also has the digital rights to this stream.
00:12:28.000Now, we know that Fox News and this has been widely reported at this point, is making some claims that you could only show up to three minutes of the debate if you're on another stream, that only certain portions will be allowed, or three minutes, two times.
00:12:56.000And when it comes down to it, I don't think there's anything more newsworthy than a debate for the Office of the Presidency of the United States.
00:13:03.000These are long-standing, long-standing and well-known standards within the United States system, and we intend to uphold them.
00:13:15.000So, Tyler, walk me through something here for a second because you said the Young Americans Foundation is hosting the debate, but that's a 501c3, and this is a partisan event.
00:13:28.000So, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that's something you're allowed to do.
00:13:33.000You guys, everybody has to understand the background in this thing.
00:13:36.000So, part of the reason why the Republican Party sucks so bad is that you got all of these beltway organizations that have existed forever that basically do a whole lot of nothing, right?
00:13:48.000They've just taken, yeah, you want to talk about organizations that are grifty and grifters.
00:13:54.000Like, basically, this entire sentiment of grifting comes from consultants that are in DC that live in Washington, D.C.
00:14:03.000And what they do is they basically take a buck that gets donated by a donor and they pass it around eight times until everybody takes a cut.
00:14:12.000And then, what's left is just a small percentage.
00:14:17.000This is, and this is actually something that Charlie and I talk about all the time.
00:14:21.000And we try to avoid, you know, with Turning Point and everything that we do is you can't have all these consultants involved in your business.
00:14:30.000You gotta, you gotta, every donor dollar that comes in has to go directly back to the people.
00:14:35.000And that's what we've done, I think, so effectively at Turning Point and Turning Point Action, Turning Point USA, and Turning Point Action is every dollar that comes in, we put directly back into programming.
00:14:45.000Well, you know, we actually have bodies out there.
00:14:48.000We've got the largest field staff, we've got hundreds of people all across the country.
00:14:53.000And so it's really frustrating when you see organizations like Young America's Foundation who basically did nothing.
00:14:59.000They're known because they bought the Reagan ranch and they've been operating that for years.
00:15:06.000But, you know, they were supposed to be the vanguard for years of the youth movement with conservatives.
00:15:11.000And I'll tell you, when I was in college, which was about a decade ago, a little over a decade ago, I couldn't get in touch with these people.
00:15:23.000And allegedly, they were telling donors that they were the preeminent force that was helping college kids and young conservatives get on their feet.
00:15:34.000So the guy that used to run it, he got kicked out and they put it, Scott, they installed Scott Walker.
00:15:39.000But we love Scott when he was a governor, and we worked with his family pretty closely on a number of different things years ago.
00:15:45.000But, you know, he's kind of become this squishy guy who hangs out with Doug Ducey and Mike Pence.
00:15:51.000And, you know, and he took this job, this gig at Young America's Foundation, where he's getting paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to virtually do very little.
00:16:00.000And they decided, hey, this is our comeback moment.
00:16:27.000We don't even have candidates running for office for president speak as a C3 at the C3.
00:16:36.000And so it's mind-boggling that Young America's Foundation is sponsoring a partisan debate because they're probably going to get busted by the IRS significantly.
00:16:46.000This is like a really dumb thing to do.
00:16:49.000And I'll tell you why it's frustrating.
00:16:50.000Because, again, if I was just a nasty person and I hated yaff and I was like, oh, those neocons good, you know, stick it to them.
00:17:11.000They're making the entire conservative movement look bad because we all look stupid when organizations that are C3s make glaring mistakes like this.
00:17:21.000And trust me, they're going to get hit.
00:17:23.000The guys at the IRS, there's like a bunch of people that the IRS are ready to smack back on this thing because they sponsor this debate.
00:21:30.000And I just, I mean, hats off to Tucker for going straight at it, which a lot of the polls would lead you to believe, the number one candidate for president in the country right now who's under indictment four different times, two at the state level, two at the federal level.
00:23:12.000And then Chris Christie's going to absorb.
00:23:14.000He's going to suck up all the air in the room.
00:23:16.000He's going to inject himself all night long.
00:23:19.000And I don't know if you guys remember this eight years ago when some of the people that were on the stage would just like inject themselves and be like, oh, let me talk.
00:23:35.000Like as, you know, as he is, you know, he's like the guy at the front of the line in Duck and Donuts that's like buying four boxes of donuts and he's taking forever ordering each one.
00:23:45.000So like he's going to be hated by everybody by the end of this thing.
00:23:52.000Christie's only purpose for being at this debate was to be like the one guy who just really energetically attacked Trump and Trump's not there.
00:24:03.000Well, I think, I think what I haven't heard from anyone on the DeSantis side is that nobody's really taken a direct target on DeSantis ever in person.
00:24:15.000You've seen, by the way, sometimes people in the audience will get up and ask him hard questions.
00:24:20.000And he kind of has a tendency to snap.
00:24:31.000And I think you have a real possibility that if Vivek is just going at him, you're going to have a potential situation like, do you remember when Tulsi Gabbard absolutely brutalized Kamala Harris at, I think it was, you know, I don't know if it was the first debate or second debate, whatever, but she just went in and like kamikazed herself to blow up Harris completely.
00:24:53.000You could see DeSantis have a situation like that, either with Vivek being the one to just lay him out or potentially DeSantis imploding because of his own personality quirks.
00:25:05.000And that's something that I haven't heard anyone on their side even discuss whatsoever, even in these leaked memos.
00:26:11.000This is the very same stage on which the Republican choice for president will accept the party's nomination next summer.
00:26:18.000The eight contenders are positioned by the order they sit in the polls, with the highest polling candidates in the middle standing center stage.
00:27:23.000So tonight these candidates have a big opportunity to break out of the pack and to explain why they are best prepared to be the Republican choice for president at a time when the likely Democrat nominee, President Joe Biden, is working to convince the country that with Bidenomics, things are looking up.
00:29:36.000We need to send Joe Biden back to his basement and reverse American decline.
00:29:44.000And it starts with understanding we must reverse Bidenomics so that middle-class families have a chance to succeed again.
00:29:51.000We cannot succeed as a country if you are working hard and you can't afford groceries, a car, or a new home, while Hunter Biden can make hundreds of thousands of dollars on lousy paintings.
00:30:57.000The difference is that we're going to have to work and make sure that we sell these ideas and we able to be able to put ourselves in a position where we get a majority of the vote, not only by winning the Congress and the Senate in 24, but also by having someone who's had the experience of doing it.
00:31:16.000Now, I was elected as a conservative Republican in a blue state with 61% of the vote with a Democratic Program.
00:31:38.000We made sure that each and every time we were confronted with bad Democratic ideas, we stood and stopped them.
00:31:44.000And when there were good ideas, we brought people together to make progress going forward.
00:31:49.000Truth and accountability are the things we need to do to fight waste.
00:31:53.000And I'd say the last thing is this, Brad.
00:31:55.000We cannot sit by any longer and allow the kind of spending that's going on in Washington because every dollar they spend is a dollar that these people are not allowed to spend on their children and their grandchildren.
00:32:07.000It's robbing our country and it's wrong.
00:32:09.000Well, Governor, let me just follow up very quickly.
00:32:11.000New Jersey, when you were governor, had the second lowest credit rating in the nation after Illinois, and it was downgraded 11 times.
00:32:20.000And that's what happens when you inherit a blue state that has done that.
00:32:24.000But when you look at what we did on debt, Brett, in that state, we cut debt in that state, debt that had been left to us by three Democratic gubernatorial predecessors of mine who ran up that debt tremendously.
00:32:37.000And what you also saw us do was to cut the unemployment rate in half.
00:32:41.000It was over 10% when I became governor in 2010.
00:32:45.000What we also did was cut pension payments to public employees to make sure that taxpayers were not being soaked by a public employee union system that was killing the taxpayer.
00:33:26.000Over the last several years, I've had an opportunity to vote against spending package after spending package after spending package.
00:33:33.000What we also need to understand is that Joe Biden's Biden nominance has led to the loss of $10,000 of spending power for the average family.
00:33:44.000When you see 16% inflation, your gas is up 40%, your food is up 20%, your electricity is up 20%.
00:33:52.000We can stop that by turning the spigot off at Washington, sending the money back to the states, and allowing the decisions to be made at their own houses.
00:34:03.000I helped write the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act in 2017.
00:34:07.000We cut taxes for a single mom, like the one that raised me by 70%, for dual households by 60%, returning to the average family $4,000.
00:34:21.000That's good news for the American people.
00:34:23.000Okay, but just to follow up, you did, during the Trump administration, you approved $4.4 trillion, $4.1 trillion, $1.7 trillion over the course of that administration.
00:34:35.000There's no doubt that during the Trump administration, when we're dealing with the COVID virus, but here's what happened at the end of our time in the majority.
00:34:43.000We had unemployment, record low unemployment, 3.5%.
00:36:12.000And I am genuinely worried that that American dream will not exist for our two sons and their generation unless we do something about it.
00:36:19.000And I do think Britain is going to take an outsider because for a long time we have professional politicians in the Republican Party who have been running from something.
00:36:27.000Now is our moment to start running to something, to our vision of what it means to be an American today.
00:36:35.000If you have a broken car, you don't turn over the keys to the people who broke it again.
00:36:38.000You hand it over to a new generation to actually fix the problem.
00:36:41.000That's why I'm in this race and we're just getting warmed up.
00:36:47.000So why are you better positioned to turn around this economy that we've heard all of these voters talking about tonight than Mr. Ramaswamy, who is a successful entrepreneur nationally right now?
00:37:11.000When they passed that $2.2 trillion COVID stimulus bill, they left us with 90 million people on Medicaid, 42 million people on food stamps.
00:38:04.000I noticed they had to get the Indians to fight each other.
00:38:10.00054% of voters say the cost of groceries is a, quote, major problem for them.
00:38:15.000You blame the Biden administration spending for that increase.
00:38:18.000But as vice president, your administration spent more than any prior, $7.8 trillion added to the national debt, $3.5 trillion of that before COVID.
00:38:29.000So does that mean that you're part of the spending problem?
00:38:32.000Well, first off, thanks for the question.
00:38:34.000Thanks for letting me respond to a reference to our administration's record.
00:38:39.000I'm incredibly proud of the record of the Trump Pence administration.
00:38:43.000I mean, in four short years, we rebuild our military.
00:40:26.000Unlock American energy, drill, frack, burn coal, embrace nuclear.
00:40:31.000Put people back to work by no longer paying them more to stay at home.
00:40:36.000Reform the U.S. Fed, stabilize the U.S. dollar, and go to war.
00:40:41.000The only war that I will declare as U.S. president will be the war on the federal administrative state that is the source of those toxic regulations acting like a wet blanket on the economy.
00:40:51.000So I'm not sure I exactly understood Mike Pence's comment, but I'll let you all parse that out.
00:42:42.000We're just going to have some fun tonight.
00:42:43.000And the reality is, you have a bunch of people, professional politicians, super PAC puppets, following slogans handed over to them by their 400-page super PACs last week.
00:42:53.000The real choice we face in this primary is this.
00:42:56.000Do you want a super PAC puppet or do you want a patriot who speaks the truth?
00:43:00.000Do you want incremental reform, which is what you're hearing about, or do you want revolution?
00:43:06.000And I stand on the side of the American revolution.
00:43:10.000We're going to take control back here.
00:43:12.000We need everyone to have a moment on the economy.
00:45:58.000More than a thousand people are still unaccounted for in Maui.
00:46:02.000After the deadliest U.S. wildfire in more than a century, Hawaii's governor and White House officials said that climate change amplified the cost of human error.
00:46:13.000And a tropical storm hit California for the first time in 84 years.
00:46:18.000The ocean hit 101 degrees off the coast of Florida.
00:46:21.000And in the last month, the heat wave in the southwest broke records nearly 50 years old.
00:46:27.000So Alexander Diaz from Young America's Foundation has a question for you all.
00:46:32.000Polls consistently show that young people's number one issue is climate change.
00:46:36.000How will you, as both President of the United States and leader of the Republican Party, calm their fears that the Republican Party doesn't care about climate change?
00:46:44.000So we want to start on this with a show of hands.
00:46:47.000Do you believe in human behavior is causing climate change?
00:48:12.000I've had enough already tonight of a guy who sounds like ChatGPT standing up here.
00:48:21.000And the last person in one of these debates, Brett, who stood in the middle of the stage and said, what's a skinny guy with an odd last name doing up here was Barack Obama.
00:48:32.000And I'm afraid we're dealing with the same type of amateur Senate stage tonight.
00:48:39.000Give me a hug just like you did to all the same type of amateur.
00:48:42.000And you'll help elect me just like you did Obama too.
00:49:18.000But if you want to go and really change the environment, then we need to start telling China and India that they have to lower their emissions.
00:49:27.000And these green subsidies that Biden has put in, all he's done is help China because he doesn't understand all these electric vehicles that he's done, what that does, half of the batteries for electric vehicles are made in China.
00:49:40.000And so that's not helping the environment.
00:49:43.000You're putting money in China's pocket.
00:50:18.000Number two, as a kid who grew up in a single-parent household mired in poverty, I wondered, was the American dream real for kids who are devastated by poverty, devastated by the challenges of life?
00:50:31.000I came to the conclusion that America can do for anyone what she's done for me if we focus on restoring hope, creating opportunities, and protecting America.
00:50:42.000If we want the environment to be better, and we all do, the best thing to do is to bring our jobs home from China.
00:50:49.000If we create 10 million new jobs in my Made in America plan, we will have a better economy and a better environment.
00:50:56.000Let me tell you why I say that, Brett.
00:52:43.000Show us you have the fight because if you're going to take on the deep state, if you're going to take on everything that the swamp in Washington, D.C. has to throw, you have to show you want it.
00:52:54.000And I'm sorry to the guys who are like, oh, well, you know, down on the south, we talked about, you know, Tim Scott.
00:54:26.000Real quick, someone just told me that, no, I know we don't have it up, but someone just told me that Fox News played a climate propaganda ad, a Republicans for Ukraine ad, and a TikTok ad, TikTok, of course, being a Chinese-owned firm.
00:54:51.000So first off, what we were talking about, Yaff has their logo, their C3 logo, right next to this kid's head on the Republican debate, which is so crazy to me.
00:55:30.000I mean, we talked about that earlier, Tyler.
00:55:32.000I mean, the lengths to which Turning Point USA has gone to create a C4, to create a PAC, to fundraise for that, build a team around that, like a whole different staff around action to stay in the IRS's good graces.
00:55:46.000And the fact that Yaff just goes in and just goes full RNC, full party endorsement is, I mean, and then you get that question.
00:55:55.000I mean, I think back to Rush Limbaugh, and Charlie always remembers this.
00:55:58.000Rush Limbaugh, one of his last public speeches was at a Turning Point USA event introducing President Trump, right?
00:58:21.000I was proud to sign the heartbeat bill.
00:58:24.000One of the most impactful moments of my life was when I heard the heartbeat of my oldest daughter in my wife's womb and then saw the sonograms of all three of my kids.
00:58:35.000What the Democrats are trying to do on this issue is wrong to allow abortion all the way up to the moment of birth.
01:00:11.000And I promise you, as President of the United States, the American people will have a champion for life in the Oval Office.
01:00:18.000Can't we have a minimum standard in every state in the nation that says when a baby is capable of feeling pain, an abortion cannot be allowed?
01:00:29.000A 15-week ban is an idea whose time has come.
01:00:32.000It's supported by 70% of the American people, but it's going to take unapologetic leadership, leadership that stands on principle and expresses compassion for women in crisis pregnancies.
01:00:44.000I'll do that as president of the United States.
01:00:49.000So first of all, I will say it is in the hands of the people and that's where it should be.
01:00:53.000But when you're talking about a federal ban, be honest with the American people.
01:00:57.000We haven't had 45 pro-life senators in over 100 years.
01:01:01.000So no Republican president can ban abortions any more than a Democrat president could ban all those state laws.
01:01:08.000Don't make women feel like they have to decide on this issue when you know we don't have 60 Senate votes in the House.
01:01:15.00070% of the American people support legislation.
01:01:20.000But 70% of the Senate does not capable of experiencing pain.
01:03:09.000Governor Bergham, you signed a six-week ban.
01:03:11.000So you're saying federally, it's all going to go to the states.
01:03:15.000Yes, and what is going to work in New York will never work in North Dakota and vice versa.
01:03:19.000That's why we face questions right here.
01:03:22.000This is too important of an issue that I have to address.
01:03:25.000First of all, the Supreme Court gave it back to the elected representatives, whether it's the states or whether it's the United States Congress.
01:03:34.000So there is authority, and that's why President Biden is pushing for a Democrat proposal.
01:03:40.000Asa and Bergham, like arguing on stage is not nearly as good as that was like Pence versus Christie.
01:04:58.000They're basically aimed at the lowest common denominator of voter, which is like technically in America, you can have an IQ of like 60 and vote.
01:05:08.000And so, you know, you get, are you dissing democracy again?
01:05:13.000And the truth is, it's just very depressing.
01:05:16.000Like 50 years ago, if you watch a debate, it's higher quality.
01:05:20.000And it's because like we didn't know the truth yet.
01:05:22.000We hadn't created the internet that gave us Twitter and TikTok and Instagram.
01:05:27.000That just revealed that everyone was terminally stupid.
01:05:30.000And so, you know, they tried to appeal to the smarts of the people, but now we accept the truth, which is we're just going to get like stupid sound bites about Big Bird or whatever until the end of time.
01:05:40.000So they also, in that timeframe, lowered the voting age.
01:05:44.000They drastically allowed more people to vote that were never that never voted before.
01:05:48.000We, you know, hold on, drastically open this up.
01:06:06.000They did accelerate during the pandemic and are still rising, actually.
01:06:10.000Murders in Los Angeles, New York, Chicago, all up 30% between 2019 and 2022.
01:06:17.000Homelessness is up 11%, the largest jump in recorded history.
01:06:22.000Vice President Pence, a lot of this began in the COVID era.
01:06:28.000How much of what we're seeing happening around this country is a result of those COVID lockdowns.
01:06:35.000And is your administration in part to blame for how we got here?
01:06:39.000Well, I think what's in part to blame is the Democrats have been talking about defunding the police for the last five years.
01:06:45.000And we ought to be funding law enforcement, particularly in our major cities, at unprecedented levels.
01:06:52.000I mean, it's extraordinary to think about the violence that's claiming innocent lives literally every week in every major city in this country.
01:07:00.000And yet Democrats and liberal prosecutors in major metropolitan areas continue to work out their fanciful agendas, to do bail reform and go easy.
01:07:11.000What we need is strong commitment to law enforcement.
01:07:15.000We need leadership in Washington, D.C. that'll marshal the resources of the states, marshal the resources of the American people.
01:07:22.000But let me also say it's about opportunity.
01:07:25.000I mean, a lot of people don't know that those Trump Pence tax cuts that we got signed into law go away at the end of 2025 if we don't have a Republican president and a Republican House and a Republican Senate.
01:07:38.000When I'm president of the United States, we're actually going to cut taxes further.
01:07:41.000We're going to extend those tax cuts and we're going to close the federal Department of Education, block grant all that funding back to the states with a growing economy and educational choice and law enforcement.
01:08:20.000You know, I'm proud of the fact, Brett, that I'm the only person along with Governor Hutchinson up on this stage who's actually running United States Attorney's Office.
01:08:27.000I ran the fifth largest office in America in a state where there is significant urban crime.
01:08:34.000And the problem is not going to be solved by more money.
01:08:38.000The problem is that these prosecutors in these localities in the states are refusing to do their job and to arrest violent criminals.
01:08:47.000So what a President Christie would do is appoint an attorney general who would instruct each of the 93 U.S. attorneys that they are to take over the prosecution of violent crime in every one of those cities that are failing to do so.
01:09:01.000We have plenty of room in the federal prison.
01:09:03.000Governor Christie just said he's going to have to clean up what's going on across this country in these individual cities.
01:09:10.000Secondly, what we need to make sure that each and every one of these criminals under Christie Hutchinson.
01:09:18.000And when Hunter Biden fills out a fake application, a false application for a gun permit, and then is facing a 10-year mandatory minimum, which was mandated by legislation sponsored by his father.
01:09:34.000And then you have a Justice Department that walks away from those charges.
01:09:38.000We're telling people that the law doesn't apply to everybody.
01:09:41.000In a Christie administration, he would go to jail for 10 years.
01:10:21.000I think faith-based approaches can play a role here, too.
01:10:24.000We're in the middle of a national identity crisis.
01:10:27.000And I say this as a member of my generation.
01:10:30.000The problem in our country right now, the reason we have that mental health epidemic, is that people are so hungry for purpose and meaning at a time when family, faith, patriotism, hard work have all disappeared.
01:10:43.000What we really need is a tonal reset from the top, saying that this is what it means to be an American.
01:10:49.000Yes, we will stand for the rule of law.
01:10:51.000Yes, we will close the southern border where criminals are coming in every day.
01:10:54.000And yes, we will back law enforcement because we remember who we really are.
01:10:58.000And that's also how we address that mental health epidemic in the next generation that is directly leading to violent crime.
01:12:04.000These hollowed-out cities, this is a symptom of America's decline.
01:12:09.000And one of the biggest reasons is because you have George Soros funding these radical left-wing district attorneys.
01:12:16.000They get into office and they say they're not going to prosecute crimes.
01:12:19.000They disagree with the inmates start running the asylum.
01:12:22.000There's one guy in this entire country that's ever done anything about that.
01:12:27.000When we had two of these district attorneys in Florida elected with Soros funding who said they wouldn't do their job, I removed them from their posts.
01:12:40.000And as president, as president, we are going to go after all of these people because they are hurting the quality of life and they are victimizing innocent people in every corner of this country.
01:12:53.000And it will stop when I get into office.
01:12:55.000Okay, one word here before the break, Governor Bergen.
01:12:59.000Brett and Martha, I just thought it was interesting.
01:13:01.000You asked your question about the problems we're having in big cities.
01:13:04.000Nobody ever asked the question of what about the crime wave in small towns?
01:13:08.000Because in a small town, neighbors help neighbors.
01:13:43.000It's like they have a secret deal or something.
01:13:45.000Secondly, let's deal with the challenge of fentanyl.
01:13:49.000And it's both about stopping the fentanyl coming from Mexico, but it's also about education of our young people, making sure that we have the tools that are needed for addiction counseling.
01:14:03.000That's what we expanded in Arkansas as well.
01:14:05.000Whenever you look at the underlying challenge of America, though, no one likes to see an America with smash and grab in our inner cities.
01:14:14.000As president of the United States, that will stop.
01:14:18.000It starts at the top with respect for our justice system that a former president who's under indictment has undermined by attacking judges, by attacking prosecutors, by attacking the system and saying he's a grieve.
01:14:33.000And so we have to have respect for our justice system and the rule of law.
01:14:37.000And it starts with the president of the United States.
01:14:44.000So, speaking of that, right now you are looking live at Fulton County Jail, where Fulton President Donald Trump will be processed tomorrow.
01:14:53.000So, next, the candidates will have an opportunity to talk about the coming trials of Donald Trump.
01:15:17.000Can you play the yaff question, please?
01:15:20.000Polls consistently show that young people's number one issue is climate change.
01:15:24.000How will you, as both president of the United States and leader of the Republican Party, calm their fears that the Republican Party doesn't care about climate change?
01:15:32.000So, we want to start on this with a show of hands.
01:15:35.000Do you believe in human behavior is causing climate change?
01:15:50.000What you're doing is you're adopting the positions of the left and then coming to it from a complete leftist perspective, putting it inside your presupposed question, saying the climate change is real.
01:16:02.000Everything that you say about it is real, and we just need to fight because that's how it is.
01:16:06.000And at least I think Vivek actually did call it a hoax after that, at least to the point where we're saying that it's climate change is some sort of apocalyptic future that we're all going to live in in dystopia.
01:16:18.000And for Young America's Foundation, who is supposedly a conservative organization, what have you ever conserved for the last 50 years?
01:16:25.000Maybe the people the last 50 years who conserved absolutely nothing, who put our country in the position and our movement in the position that it's currently in.
01:16:33.000How about you step aside and it's time for some new guns to come in?
01:16:37.000Tyler, I want to get your input on this.
01:16:41.000No, I mean, I'm telling you right now, this is so crazy to me that Young America's Foundation.
01:16:48.000This is the, this is the, this is why, like, people, I was trying to tell people when the RNC picked this nonprofit, Young America's Foundation, who we know so well, I knew this is what was coming.
01:17:00.000A bunch of like rhino, weirdo, neocon questions that are super lame, super stupid.
01:17:07.000Guys, there are so many things going on in the world right now.
01:17:11.000And you have Young America's Foundation, the best thing they could come up with was a climate change question.
01:18:54.000It's a generational dynamic that we're seeing play here.
01:18:59.000It is the old, the old guerrillas versus the old Silverbacks versus this new guard and Vivek.
01:19:05.000And to some extent, DeSantis, but DeSantis still feels flat-footed.
01:19:10.000I can't, he can't, when he, his first answer, I thought he was going to get off the block really, really fast.
01:19:14.000He was, he was passionate, but then he's kind of receded back into a flat-footed on-his heels posture, which is, I think, not doing him any favors.
01:19:24.000Again, Vivek, just every time they come to him, he's throwing haymakers.
01:19:53.000I mean, it's very funny how they have totally avoided Donald Trump until now the debate hosts are like forcing them to talk about him because there was a lot of chatter about how they would handle the elephant in the room.
01:20:04.000And the answer apparently is they would prefer to not handle it.
01:20:07.000And they would just, man, I just don't even know who they're pandering to with this.
01:20:11.000We've got other than that, I'm mostly distracted by Chris Christie.
01:20:16.000He's been indicted in four different states on 91 counts.
01:20:20.000He will be processed tomorrow in Georgia at the Fulton County Jail for charges relating to the 2020 election loss.
01:20:27.000You all signed a pledge to support the eventual Republican nominee.
01:20:32.000If former President Trump is convicted in a court of law, would you still support him as your party's choice?
01:21:13.000Now, and now, whether or not, whether or not you believe that the criminal charges are right or wrong, the conduct is beneath the office of President of the United States.
01:21:37.000And, you know, this is the great thing about this country.
01:21:41.000Booing is allowed, but it doesn't change the truth.
01:21:59.000And Chris Christie, honest to God, your claim that Donald Trump is motivated by vengeance and grievance would be a lot more credible if your entire campaign were not based on vengeance and grievance against one man.
01:22:14.000People at home want to see people blindly bashing Donald Trump without an iota of vision for this country.
01:22:22.000They could just change the channel to MSNBC right now.
01:22:25.000But I'm not running for president of MSNBC.
01:22:27.000I am running for president of the United States.
01:22:30.000We're skating on thin ice, and we cannot set a precedent where the party in power uses police force to indict its political opponents.
01:23:46.000You've never done it like you've never done anything to try to advance the interests of this government except to put yourself forward as a candidate tonight.
01:28:11.000Former President Trump is beating you by 40%.
01:28:14.000Our supporter is not showing up where Trump isn't is a pretty common theme.
01:28:18.000Governor Hutchinson, you did not raise your hand.
01:28:21.000I did not raise my hand because there's an important issue we as a party have to face.
01:28:26.000Chemical castration, I said that Donald Trump was morally disqualified from being president again as a result of what happened on January 6th.
01:28:35.000More people are understanding the importance of that, including conservative legal scholars who say he may be disqualified under the 14th Amendment from being president again as a result of the insurrection.
01:28:56.000And so, obviously, I'm not going to support somebody who's been convicted of a serious felony or who has disqualified under our Constitution.
01:29:20.000I'd like to answer the question you asked and not give a pre-canned speech.
01:29:24.000Mike Pence stood for the Constitution, and he deserves not grudging credit.
01:29:32.000He deserves our thanks as Americans for putting his oath of office and the Constitution of the United States before personal, political, and unfair pressure.
01:29:45.000And the argument that we need to have in this party before we can move on to the issues that Ron talked about is we have to dispense with the person who said that we need to suspend the Constitution to put forward his political career.
01:30:02.000Mike Pence said no, and he deserves credit for it.
01:32:50.000Every day for four years, I sought to keep that oath.
01:32:53.000And everyone on this stage needs to make it clear whether or not they'll do the same if they earn this job and the confidence of the American people.
01:33:01.000If it was clear why they have to be aware of the people who are not clear, I had hoped that the issues surrounding the 2020 election and the controversies around January 6th had not come to this, had not come to criminal proceedings.
01:33:14.000I would rather they have been resolved by the American people and the American people alone.
01:33:20.000And President Trump is entitled to the presumption of innocence that every American is entitled to.
01:33:26.000And we will make sure and extend that to him.
01:33:29.000But the American people deserve to know that the president asked me in his request that I reject or return votes unilaterally, power that no vice president in American history had ever exercised or taken.
01:33:44.000He asked me to put him over the Constitution.
01:33:47.000And I chose the Constitution, and I always will.
01:33:50.000I had no right to overturn the election, and Kamala Harris will have no right to overturn the election when we beat them in 2024.
01:34:03.000Now we are going to go to other issues.
01:34:06.000The U.S. has committed nearly $77 billion in aid to the Ukraine war.
01:35:01.000And I think that this is disastrous that we are protesting against an invasion across somebody else's border when we should use those same military resources to prevent across the invasion of our own southern border here in the United States of America.
01:35:15.000We are driving Russia further into China's hands.
01:35:19.000The Russia-China alliance is the single greatest threat we face.
01:35:22.000And I find it offensive that we have professional politicians on the stage that will make a pilgrimage to Kiev to their Pope, Zelensky, without doing the same thing for people in Maui or the south side of Chicago or Kensington.
01:35:35.000I think that we have to put the interests of Americans first to secure our own border instead of somebody else's.
01:35:42.000And the reality is this is also how we project strength by making America strong at home.
01:35:51.000Look, I did go to Ukraine, and I went to Ukraine because I wanted to see for myself who's funding my army to the free Ukrainian people.
01:36:02.000And let me tell you, I want you all to look around this arena tonight and imagine that every one of these seats was filled.
01:36:09.000And if every one of them was filled, there would still be 2,500 more children outside to make over 20,000 who have been abducted, stolen mothers and Chris Christie and brought trafficked on the southern border.
01:37:11.000Anybody that thinks that we can't solve the problems here in the United States and be the leader of the free world has a pretty small view of the greatest nation on earth.
01:37:21.000This is the biggest big, small neoliberal talking point.
01:37:26.000We're starting for democracy for years.
01:37:28.000The Reagan doctrine years ago made it clear.
01:37:30.000We said, if you're willing to fight the communists on your soil, we'll give you the means to fight them there so our troops don't have to fight them.
01:37:36.000But Vic, if we do the giveaway that you want to give to Putin to give him his land, it's not going to be too long before he rolls across a nation's domino theory embedded in the lie of neoliberalism in real time.
01:39:44.000These are warmongers that have done nothing good for our country.
01:39:47.000We want to get to the point where we're sending our military resources abroad when we could be better using them here at home to protect our own borders, protect the homeland.
01:40:23.000First of all, the American president needs to have moral clarity.
01:40:26.000They need to know the difference between right and wrong.
01:40:29.000They need to know the difference between good and evil.
01:40:32.000When you look at the situation with Russia and Ukraine, here you have a pro-American country that was invaded by a thug.
01:40:39.000So we want to talk about what has been given to Ukraine.
01:40:42.000Less than 3.5% of our defense budget has been given to Ukraine.
01:40:48.000If you look at the percentages per GDP, 11 of the European countries have given more than the U.S.
01:40:54.000But what's really important is go back to when China and Russia held hands, shook hands before the Olympics, and named themselves unlimited partners.
01:44:19.000In coming years, China will have 1,500 nuclear warheads, it's believed.
01:44:24.000The U.S. just arrested two sailors accused of spying for China within our military.
01:44:29.000So the question is, how would you deter China as a president, Bergham?
01:44:35.000Well, this is the number one issue we're facing.
01:44:38.000And of course, we haven't been talking about it, and we act like that letting Russia win in Ukraine is like a gimme as opposed to a gift to China.
01:44:45.000Russia has become China's gas station.
01:45:09.000They don't even bring up energy because they're too busy trying to kill the U.S. energy here.
01:45:13.000And what we need to do is not meetings, not press releases, because something that would send a lot more than a press release is actually harpoon missiles.
01:45:32.000And what we have in what we've got going on in Ukraine is an example of when deterrence fail.
01:45:38.000What is an example there of Biden's disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan, the fact that he greenlighted Putin moving into Ukraine, and then now they see weakness, and when they see weakness, they make a move.
01:45:49.000And we have to be strong, and we have to be strong, both in Ukraine, and we can solve the southern border.
01:45:58.000There's only 19,855 authorized people for the border patrol.
01:46:02.000But they're not all staffed because the Biden administration doesn't enforce law enforcement.
01:46:06.000But the Biden administration wanted to put 87,000 people in the IRS as opposed to giving the money and this for what we need to our own border patrol.
01:46:26.000Look at the number of Border Patrol agents.
01:46:28.000I just left Yuma, Arizona, about two weeks ago.
01:46:31.000Another buddy's title from the American people from a national security standpoint is our southern border.
01:46:38.000It has law to the death of 70,000 Americans because of fentanyl.
01:46:43.000Plus, 6 million illegal crossings since President Biden has taken office.
01:46:50.000And 200 people on our national security watch list have been caught at our border.
01:46:57.000How many have not been caught at our southern border?
01:47:00.000If we just spend $10 billion, we could finish the wall.
01:47:05.000For $5 billion more, we could have the military-grade technology to surveil our southern border to stop the flow of fentanyl and save 70,000 Americans a year.
01:47:20.000That should be the priority of this government.
01:47:24.000And as the next president of the United States, I will make that border wall complete.
01:47:30.000There are many more questions on China.
01:47:44.000And those aren't, that's a statistic, but these are sons and daughters, nieces and nephews that we're losing.
01:47:49.000We've got North Dakota troops down there flying night helicopter missions from San Diego to the Gulf Coast, trying to stop these transnational criminal organizations.
01:47:57.000They've got better funding on their side than we've got on our side.
01:48:00.000Speaking of which, Governor Hutchinson, speaking of which, images from earlier this month, Governor Hutchinson with Mexico, Vice President Pence.
01:48:48.000Whenever I was in the Bush administration, we went down there and met with President Vincente Fox of Mexico and asked his help in going after the cartels.
01:48:59.000And he looked at me and said they're a problem to us as well.
01:49:02.000And so we joined together and we took down the Ariana Felix brothers leading the Tijuana cartel.
01:49:58.000So, as president, would you support sending U.S. special forces over the border into Mexico to take out fentanyl labs, to take out drug cartel operations?
01:50:10.000Would you support that kind of American military use?
01:50:18.000The cartels are killing tens of thousands of our fellow citizens.
01:50:24.000You want to talk about a country in decline?
01:50:26.000You have the cartels controlling a lot of part of your southern border.
01:50:30.000We have to reestablish the rule of law and we have to defend our people.
01:50:35.000The president of the United States has got to use all available powers as commander in chief to protect our country and to protect the people.
01:50:44.000So when they're coming across, yes, we're going to use lethal force.
01:52:25.000It's because we used economic pressure to bring the Mexicans to the table.
01:52:30.000And they allowed us to have people wait in Mexico while they applied for asylum and ended asylum abuse overnight.
01:52:37.000We got the Mexicans to deploy their National Guard to their southern border and to our southern border as never before.
01:52:44.000And I want to promise you, as President of the United States of America, I will engage Mexico the exact same way, and we will partner with the Mexican military, and we will hunt down and destroy the cartels that are claiming lives in the United States.
01:53:02.000Another issue that is related to this is that almost 7 million migrants have crossed this border, our southern border, during the Biden administration.
01:53:12.000So, Governor Christie, what would you do about the 7 million who are here?
01:53:25.000Then, the next thing we need to do with the folks that are here is to, again, as we've talked about all the days, we have to have law and order in this country.
01:53:36.000And what that means is to make sure that people who come here illegally are not rewarded for being here illegally.
01:53:43.000We have so many wonderful people from around the world who are waiting in line, following the law, to try to come here and pursue the American dream.
01:53:53.000And those people are waiting and waiting and waiting because we haven't dealt with the problem of the folks who are here.
01:54:21.000But China is sending these chemicals to these drug cartels for them to create the fentanyl that is killing hundreds of thousands of our citizens.
01:54:31.000The Chinese are engaging in an act of war against us, killing our citizens.
01:54:36.000We better make that priority one in our conversations with China and to try to straighten that relationship out.
01:54:42.000Because if we don't, we're going to lose more and more of our citizens.
01:54:45.000I just want to clarify: would you send those people back?
01:55:07.000No, I thought it was really interesting.
01:55:09.000I mean, it just goes to show first what the Republican Party is about Trump.
01:55:13.000I mean, outside of Vivek, if Vivek would not be in the race, it would be a complete agreement on money in Ukraine, soft answers on immigration, kind of kid gloves with the administrative state.
01:55:47.000I'm being told that there's a clip here.
01:55:49.000This is not the premier youth organization on the right.
01:55:52.000That would be Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action, Play Cut 98.
01:55:56.000Polls consistently show that young people's number one issue is climate change.
01:56:00.000How will you, as both president of the United States and leader of the Republican Party, calm their fears that the Republican Party doesn't care about climate change?
01:56:41.000Yeah, no, I was having this weird IFB issue where basically I couldn't hear the debate when people were when there was crosstalk and it was just getting all mixed up.
01:56:47.000Anyway, it's my thing, but I'll hear during and after.
01:56:51.000Does anybody know why it was that Governor Ron DeSantis also decided to skip the debate tonight?
01:56:58.000Because I know that President Trump didn't show up, but I was really expecting Governor DeSantis to show up, and yet I have yet to see him do so.
01:57:08.000Yeah, you know, Jack, my take on it, and I was reading some of the comments online.
01:57:13.000A lot of people keep saying, DeSantis is doing fine.
01:57:18.000And I think, Charlie, Charlie, you tweeted out something just a second ago.
01:57:23.000I forget what you said exactly, but you were like, he's doing his answers are like technically correct, but he's just not having a standout moment he needed.
01:58:51.000So I printed out those emails, the fake awards that they give people on emails to get them to donate five bucks, and I wore them all over my jacket.
01:58:58.000And I walked up, and some of the old people that are on the RNC were like, oh, how do I get one of those?
01:59:32.000The decline in education is one of the major reasons why our country is in decline.
01:59:37.000We need education in this country, not indoctrination in this country.
01:59:42.000You've got to stop with the scripted stuff, man.
01:59:44.000Florida, we stood up for what was right.
01:59:46.000First, we had schools open during COVID, and a lot of the problems that we've seen are because these lockdown states lock their kids out of school for a year, year and a half.
02:00:56.000So to the education question, how would you deal with the crisis?
02:01:00.000So look, we have a crisis of achievement.
02:01:02.000Let's shut down the head of the snake, the Department of Education.
02:01:05.000Take that $80 billion, put it in the hands of parents across this country.
02:01:10.000This is the civil rights issue of our time.
02:01:12.000Allow any parent to choose where they send their kids to school and the teachers' unions at the local level to allow public schools to compete and then revive our national identity where every high school senior should have to pass the same civics test that frankly every immigrant, including my mother, had to pass in order to become a citizen of this country.
02:01:34.000And the fact of the matter is, look, there's a part of education policy that also rests with the family.
02:01:40.000I didn't grow up, but you know, the word privilege gets used a lot.
02:01:52.000The problem is we also have a lot of people.
02:01:54.000You're not allowed to become president here today.
02:01:55.000You're paying single women more not to have a man in the house than to have a man in the house, contributing to an epidemic of fatherlessness.
02:02:05.000You can't get the education crisis as well because we have to Education starts with the family, and the nuclear family is the greatest form of governance known to mankind.
02:02:47.000But I do think when we start talking about education and we think that we're going to have a federal government one-size-fits-all, we're just completely losing track of the fact that education differs by state.
02:02:58.000Some school districts are doing a fantastic job, some less so.
02:03:01.000But the idea that every school district, state, and every teacher is somehow indoctrinating people is just false.
02:03:07.000When I was building a company from scratch, you know, with small town kids, and we went, you know, grew up in a town of 300, but we built a global company in 132 countries with over 100,000 customers.
02:04:03.000Teachers in this country, the vast majority of them care about those kids.
02:04:07.000They're working in low-paying jobs, and they're fighting for those kids and their families.
02:04:11.000Governor Haley said that this is the women's issue of our time.
02:04:15.000First, I'll tell you, as a parent, the one thing you want is for your child to have a better life than you did.
02:04:22.000And we can talk about all of these things, and there's a lot of crazy, woke things happening in schools, but we've got to get these kids reading.
02:04:29.000If a child can't read by third grade, they're four times less likely to graduate high school.
02:04:34.000So we need to make sure we bring in reading remediation all over this country.
02:04:38.000We need transparency in the classroom because parents should never have to wonder what's being said or taught to their children in the classroom.
02:04:45.000Parents need to be deciding which schools their kids go to because they know best.
02:04:50.000And let's put vocational classes back into the high schools.
02:04:53.000Let's teach our kids to build things again.
02:04:56.000When we do that and we allow that innovation, that's when it'll get back.
02:05:00.000And yes, I will always say I'm going to fight for girls all day long because strong girls become strong women.
02:06:06.000We need a president who knows how Congress works, how the White House works, how we make it.
02:06:13.000I was fighting against No Child Left Behind when Republicans were doubling the Department of Education.
02:06:18.000I'll also shut down the federal Department of Education.
02:06:21.000And when I was governor, we doubled the size of the largest school choice program in America, and we'll give school choice to every family in America.
02:06:38.000You've said, and you just said you want a civics test or public service for those under 25 to be able to vote.
02:06:43.000So the question is: do you want a mental acuity test for Presidents?
02:06:48.000I keep the people this picture to tell the difference between somebody who's an automaton and somebody who's actually a thinking agent in the White House, which we don't have in there today.
02:06:57.000And I will tell you, I want to address Vice President Pence's comment.
02:07:00.000I think we do need somebody of a different generation to lead this nation forward.
02:07:04.000Look at the way I've run this campaign.
02:07:06.000Go into the south side of Chicago, to Kensington, in the middle of Philadelphia, where traditional Republican candidates don't go.
02:07:13.000We have an opportunity to build a multi-ethnic working-class majority to deliver a landslide.
02:07:19.000And I think I'm the only candidate in this race, young or old, black or white, to bring all of those voters along to deliver a Reagan 1980 revolution.
02:08:05.000As president of the United States, I will make sure we go from 51% of our schools offering computer science to every school in rural areas and urban areas offering computer science for the benefit of our kids.
02:08:18.000And we can compete with China in terms of technology.
02:08:22.000By the president of the United States, this is coming to you.
02:08:26.000We're trying to do a quick round of different topics here.
02:08:29.000So, Senator Scott, faith is on decline in this country.
02:08:33.000You talked about it a little bit before tonight.
02:08:35.000So, is there a role for a president of the United States in changing that?
02:08:42.000Well, our nation was founded upon the Judeo-Christian values that has made this the greatest nation on God's green earth.
02:08:48.000I'm a big believer in Ephesians 3:20, that God is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or imagine.
02:08:54.000Our responsibility should be to model the behavior we want others to follow.
02:09:00.000On education, the only way we change education in this nation is to break the backs of the teachers' unions.
02:09:08.000They are standing in the doorhouse of our kids, locking them into failing schools and locking them out of the greatest future they could have.
02:09:20.000As president, Governor DeSantis, would you support some mandatory military service for all Americans?
02:09:26.000I'm somebody that volunteered to serve inspired by September 11th, and I deployed to Iraq alongside U.S. Navy SEALs and places like Fallujah, Ramadi.
02:09:37.000And it's something that I think has taught me: you know, when you go in that type of environment, anything you have, your personal agenda, you check it out.
02:09:45.000From the door, you go there, and it's about focusing on vision above all else.
02:09:50.000The entire movement was going forward and done.
02:09:53.000I just remember I would view this in the United States.
02:09:57.000It's not about all these other side issues.
02:10:00.000My sister's successful would have been here.
02:10:21.000But, okay, we've been hearing a lot of, we've hearing a lot of testimony in Congress, and people are taking this a lot more seriously.
02:10:28.000And we're hearing that, you know, there are things going on that people aren't aware of.
02:10:33.000So, if you were president, are you a UAP, Chris Christie?
02:10:37.000Level with the American people about what the government knows about these possible, and especially coming from a woman from New Jersey.
02:10:47.000I think it's horrible that just because I'm from New Jersey, you asked me about unidentified flying objects and Martians.
02:10:55.000We're different, but we're not that different.
02:10:58.000Look, of course, the job of the president of the United States is to level with the American people about everything.
02:11:06.000The job of the president of the United States is to stand for truth.
02:11:10.000The job of the president of the United States is to be a role model for our children and our grandchildren.
02:11:17.000And so, whether it was UFOs or this problem of education, and Tim's right, by the way, and I started this in 2010 by going right after the teachers' unions in New Jersey and drove them down to an all-time low popularity rating because they were putting themselves before our kids.
02:11:33.000That is the biggest threat to our country, not UFOs.
02:13:51.000Yeah, one thing I've noticed, though, is clearly if you're talking about candidates with standouts, it's going to be Vivek.
02:13:57.000But I've noticed that he and DeSantis have largely steered clear of each other.
02:14:01.000I think he had sort of a pre-planned nickname for him.
02:14:05.000You keep saying super packed puppet, super packed puppet, which is, it's okay.
02:14:09.000I don't know if it really lands, though, because it's kind of wonky.
02:14:12.000I don't, I just, as a nickname, the analysis there, I just don't think it's a great nickname.
02:14:16.000It's something that you have to explain a couple of times.
02:14:18.000And any nickname that you have to explain isn't a very good one.
02:14:21.000But that being said, there really only seems to be one candidate who's got any fight up there, and that's Vivek.
02:14:27.000The other ones, they only seem to, well, if we're fun with some of them, like Aza Hutchinson and Chris Christie, the only time they ever get actually activated is now, obviously, when Chris Christie sees a cream buff or when he gets the opportunity to attack Donald Trump.
02:14:41.000So you can tell that these guys are absolutely being propped up by the same forces that want to see this ticket split to stop Trump from being able to scoop up the nomination.
02:14:51.000But at the same time, you know what else I haven't heard from anyone?
02:14:54.000An actual explanation of reading the room and understanding that none of these candidates are anywhere near in contention for actually winning the presidency.
02:15:04.000It's like they're all going through this situation like it's completely meaningless.
02:17:40.000My dad died when I was a freshman in high school.
02:17:43.000My mom, widow of three, went back to work.
02:17:46.000Every job I had growing up was one where I took a shower at the end of the day, not at the beginning of the day.
02:17:53.000Our cities are less safe because of the fentanyl pouring into this country.
02:17:57.000Our economy is being crushed by Biden's energy policies, which are raising the cost of every product you buy, not just the gasoline at the pump.
02:18:05.000One thing that I'll do as president, I'll secure the border.
02:18:09.000I'll get this economy sprinting, not crawling like it is right now.
02:18:13.000And I would say that other thing is for sure.
02:18:16.000When I'm on a horseback in the Badlands of North Dakota, it looks like the horizon is just limitless.
02:18:22.000And when you can almost see beyond that horizon, you can see that this great country, our future is unlimited.
02:18:28.000But we've got to focus on innovation, not regulation.
02:19:27.000As president, I'll bring out the best of America in terms of individual responsibility, building our economy, in terms of securing our border, enforcing the rule of law.
02:19:39.000I'll bring out the best of America in terms of our national character, our faith, and our hope for the future.
02:20:46.000Look, everybody on this stage wants to be the next president of the United States.
02:20:50.000And the only way that's going to happen is if we beat Joe Biden.
02:20:54.000I'm the only one on this stage who's ever beaten the Democratic incumbent in the election.
02:20:58.000I did it in a deep blue state, being outspent three to one.
02:21:02.000Beating a Democratic incumbent is not easy.
02:21:05.000The last Democratic incumbent president who was defeated was Jimmy Carter.
02:21:09.000And he was defeated by a conservative governor from a blue state who knew how to get results, who stood for the truth, who cared about accountability, and stood strong and hard against waste.
02:21:22.000Those are the very things that I did in my eight years as governor of New Jersey.
02:21:26.000And it's exactly what I'll do as president of the United States.
02:21:30.000Believe me, the Democrats want some other nominee who's never beaten the Democratic incumbent.
02:21:46.000Several weeks ago, I dropped my husband, Michael, a combat veteran from Afghanistan, off at 4 a.m. for another year-long deployment.
02:21:56.000I watched him and 230 soldiers pick up their two duffel bags of belongings to go to a country they had never been, all in the name of protecting America.
02:22:07.000If they are willing to protect us from there, we should be willing to fight for America here.
02:22:14.000I will beat Joe Biden, and he knows that.
02:22:17.000I will strengthen our economy and we'll bring this inflation down.
02:22:20.000We will put transparency in the classroom.
02:22:52.000Joe Biden has weakened America at home and abroad.
02:22:57.000The disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan, their war on energy, runaway spending that launched the worst inflation in 40 years, a crisis at our southern border, an assault on our values and liberties.
02:23:09.000And the American people have had enough.
02:23:31.000Because I have faith in the American people.
02:23:33.000This whole decent, hardworking, faith-filled idea is a regular country.
02:23:37.000And I have faith with the guns done with America.
02:23:41.000And if we will renew our faith in one another and renew our faith in him who has ever guided this nation since we arrived on these wilderness shores, I know the best days for the greatest nation on earth are yet to come.
02:23:56.000I was born in 1985, and I grew up into a generation where we were taught to celebrate our diversity and our differences so much that we forgot all of the ways we are really just the same as Americans bound by a common set of ideals that set this nation into motion in 1776.
02:24:16.000The diversity is not our moment to revive those common ideals.
02:26:33.000The Republican Party without Trump is a total disaster.
02:26:36.000Jack Posobiec, Charlie, you know, one of the things, and I said this on the show on Human Events earlier this week, that, you know, I was really looking forward to tonight was: okay, this is a look at the bench, right?
02:26:50.000Four years from now, five years from now, six years, whatever it is, President Trump, after his second term, we're going to be looking at the Republican bench.
02:26:57.000We're going to be looking at the movement.
02:26:58.000And supposedly, these are the brightest luminaries.
02:27:01.000And I got to tell you, some of them look like burned out bulbs up there sitting or like a, you know, a smoke detector where the battery hasn't been changed.
02:27:09.000I mean, this is the best we have, really.
02:27:11.000I mean, I see some, I will say, I see some lights.
02:27:14.000I see some interest there, but by and large, this does not look like a good bench.
02:27:20.000And I think that the Republican Party really needs to get its act together and start attracting new blood into the system because, quite frankly, if this is all we got, we're going to get absolutely bored going into 2028.
02:27:34.000I thought the Republican Party could become a regional party again.
02:27:38.000I thought Vivek was, Andrew, by far the winner of the debate.
02:27:41.000He understood and read the room the best and the base.
02:27:45.000And he's going to be the great beneficiary here.
02:29:40.000I was really disappointed when DeSantis did not come out with Alvin Bragg when that indictment fell down and did not stand up and say something very strong.
02:32:27.000I made this for a dollar and I wore it.
02:32:29.000And I think it's going to save the RNC maybe 10% of our fundraising budget if it was successful.
02:32:36.000So I thought tonight that DeSantis was going to get attacked the way that Vivek got attacked because I thought DeSantis was going to have to step up.
02:32:46.000DeSantis was nowhere to be found in this debate.
02:32:48.000He took this so pedestrian, I think so pedestrian, he's going to drop even more of the polls.
02:35:35.000I've had enough already tonight of a guy who sounds like Chat GPT standing up here.
02:35:44.000And the last person in one of these debates, Brett, who stood in the middle of the stage and said, what's a skinny guy with an odd last name doing up here was Barack Obama.
02:35:55.000And I'm afraid we're dealing with the same type of amateur Senate stage tonight.
02:38:57.000I think, Blake, you were mentioning you were in a chat that was having this response to Vivek.
02:39:01.000I mean, a lot of people, and there was actually some comments, Charlie, in your Twitter feed about how Vivek comes off kind of like a young whipper snapper, like a twerp.
02:41:18.000I was just going to say this one thing.
02:41:19.000Remember all the view when What's Your Face Osborne was like, Donald Trump, if you kick out all the Mexicans, who's going to clean your toilet?
02:41:27.000It was like a much more, it was much more nuanced thing.
02:41:32.000But it was like, basically, Mike Pence did the same thing in a much more nuanced way, which was like, I'll go slower for you, you dumb little.
02:41:41.000In a serious country, most of these candidates would actually be scrubbing toilets rather than anywhere near their presidency.
02:41:47.000But when it really comes down to it, I think one of the reasons that Vivek, and maybe this isn't for everybody, and I get that, but I think one of the reasons that he's able to resonate is that he's actually like some of these candidates talk about like it's some kind of bygone era, like it's the 1980s, and oh, we're just going to focus on the debt ceiling and we're going to focus on tax reform.
02:42:09.000But he actually seems like he's dealing with the country as it currently is.
02:42:15.000He feels like he actually lives in the world and is talking about things that are going on all around us.
02:42:21.000I mean, he's the only one who actually addressed the prosecution of Trump in the way that I think it deserves.
02:42:45.000When he was trying to build Trump Tower, New Delhi, he bends over to a very awfully impressive young man and says, one day you will fight my fights for me.
02:43:27.000And so the question that they didn't ask him at this debate, and I wish someone would ask him, is one, like, okay, Vivek, you're the most pro-Trump guy of all these candidates.
02:44:03.000But then I do wonder what will that look like?
02:44:05.000You know, we've said all these nice things about Vivek and then Trump says something funny about Vivek's H-1B visa expiring and then it's just like, you know, blows up all of his popularity.
02:44:24.000I was going to make one point, though.
02:44:26.000I mean, do we, you know, Trump said he kind of joked on True Social that he wanted to watch the first debate so that he could pick a see if any of them would make a decent vice president candidate.
02:44:35.000Now, Charlie, you have publicly floated two names, I think, prominently.
02:44:43.000Ron Johnson, kind of, we say it's his superpower because he's like super bass, but he's boring and can talk to like the people that were in that audience, right?
02:46:46.000It stood out to me the most that even on this very easy thing that DeSantis is just not like, he's not alert enough or not paying close enough attention to the questions.
02:46:55.000So he just sort of has to pause and sort of awkwardly raise his hand.
02:46:59.000And so he just gets wrecked on this extremely easy thing because Vivek has the energy to just throw his hand up really quickly.
02:47:06.000And nope, I win this question now because I put my hand up the fastest.
02:47:31.000And that was what, that's what the debate was over and over for DeSantis.
02:47:35.000It's not that his answers were specifically horrible.
02:47:37.000They just weren't, they just weren't very good.
02:47:40.000I, so I screenshotted that on Twitter and it's being, I mean, it's going pretty hyper-viral right now because, and I don't know if you have it.
02:48:51.000So his body language here actually matches his answer, which is his true answer, where he's not saying he doesn't have the ability to come down on one side or the other on Ukraine because on one hand, he wants to win the nomination.
02:49:05.000And on the other hand, he is absolutely beholden to super PAC donors.
02:49:10.000And Vivek Ramaswamy is right about this.
02:49:12.000He's beholden to these donors who will not let him say that he is beholden to them.
02:49:17.000And so he's caught in this weird sort of, you know, phantom zone where he can't actually come out and say what needs to be said about Ukraine.
02:49:38.000I was just going to say, You know, I think coming out of this thing now, you have clear, you basically have a clear four people.
02:49:47.000I think everybody's going to dismiss Chris Christie as like a reasonable candidate, like even people that like him back east and in the northeast.
02:49:54.000You've got, you've got Vivek, you've got Nikki Haley, you've got Tim Scott, you've got Mike Pence, and you've got Ron DeSantis.
02:50:04.000And I think that's probably if the RC is smart, they'll narrow the field so they actually have a debate in the future and maybe can get Trump there.
02:50:40.000I think X, Y, and Z has normal responses.
02:50:44.000But, you know, I have to be able to not just get attacked 24/7 by my own party.
02:50:50.000And so when you can create that ecosystem, that space, that environment for me, where we can actually have a debate about the policies and issues that I've been talking about since day one, then I'll come.
02:51:02.000But I don't think he's going to do that until they can demonstrate that.
02:51:05.000And I don't think the RNC is capable of doing that.
02:51:09.000And I mean, Tyler, just to go back, I just want to remind our audience, drumbeat, the basic stuff, the staffing and ballot chasing, that's what should have received a ton of attention, not, you know, whoever's opinion side.
02:51:25.000Where was the discussion of how we're actually going to win in 2024?
02:51:29.000Where was the discussion of ballot chasing, ballot harvesting?
02:51:32.000That would have been a really good question.
02:51:35.000Where's the discussion of election injection?
02:51:37.000Well, let me actually talk about January 6th, but where's the question of challenges of getting these votes, these states down?
02:51:44.000You know, we're talking strategy here, but we haven't even focused at all on the actual logistics and tactics of winning an election in the real world rather than saying, oh, well, I'm president.
02:51:55.000Yeah, when I'm president, everyone can have free ice cream.
02:51:57.000But how the freaking people are going to be able to do that?
02:52:00.000I want to blow up a bit about that, or it's like, I think it's not going to come up.
02:52:05.000But like, Fox should get some crap for, you know, I know they did their best to manage the debate, but I thought the questions were actually very bad and not just like it was like often they were trying, it was what CNN or something would often do to try to set up Republicans.
02:52:22.000Like, one, they throw in this like big abortion question to like really hotbox them and be like, are you going to sign your six-week ban federally?
02:52:31.000Which is exactly what CNN does in 2012, where it's like, objectively, we just know that's not going to happen.
02:52:37.000And so they're only doing this so they can be like, the extreme Republican Party won't stop talking about abortion.
02:52:43.000But like, we don't have a question that's like, what are you going to do at the federal level over people having their kids taken by the California state government to tranny them?
02:53:12.000But even if it's not what most of them, because I feel like most of them would say, what do you want to hear about?
02:53:17.000And they would be like, I want to hear about how they're going to stop the indictment of Donald Trump, which, okay, throw in the question about that.
02:53:23.000Like, they asked about pardons, but they all should have asked, like, I do, I do think TV debates are kind of horrible because they're designed for very canned statements.
02:53:33.000They're designed for sound bites and they're designed to just suck.
02:53:38.000But you could at least try and be like, okay, you say you're going to stop the weaponization of the DOJ.
02:53:43.000What are you going to do besides one of them said, I'm day one, I'm going to fire Merrick Garland.
02:54:42.000I'd love to have them talk about that.
02:54:44.000And there's a lot of issues you can ask about and be like, hey, Republican candidates, give us your 15-second spiel on what you want to do.
02:54:52.000And instead, like, it's, we deliberately are leaning into the lamest soundbite version of GOP politics.
02:55:00.000And yeah, no surprise, if you do that, you're going to get a really lame soundbite version of GOP politics.
02:55:05.000And it's going to be unbearable because none of these guys are as entertaining as Donald Trump is.
02:55:09.000Donald Trump can make any debate exciting.
02:55:14.000It's just, I hate, I hate debates so much.
02:55:16.000Honestly, though, I thought the one instance, and Jack, I actually would love your perspective as like, you know, the Catholic vote and Tyler as the kind of like, you know, the Latter-day Saint vote.
02:55:35.000But I, I did actually find myself keying in on this abortion topic.
02:55:42.000And a lot of them sort of like hemmed and hawed.
02:55:45.000Nobody was willing to sort of like take up a very firm line, is my impression.
02:55:50.000But, you know, I do think it's an open question for how do you handle it, right?
02:55:55.000I mean, and I actually go back to Trump during the CNN town hall with Caitlin Collins when he said, you know, listen, it's a very sticky issue.
02:56:04.000Acknowledge the fact that it's a sticky issue.
02:56:06.000And then he said, I'm going to make the best deal for both sides.
02:56:10.000I mean, that's a very Trump answer, but I, and I understand that that leaves a lot of wiggle room, but I think that's what he wants.
02:56:15.000And I think we all understand that about Trump.
02:56:18.000I don't know at this point, as somebody who's deep into the weeds on this, how we're going to handle the abortion topic when these propositions are getting shot down across the country.
02:56:30.000I think it's an open political question.
02:56:32.000I know we're all pro-life here, but how do we handle it politically?
02:56:35.000I don't have clarity after this tonight.
02:56:37.000So, Jack, you just put something on Telegram, and we're going to go about five or ten more minutes, probably five more minutes.
02:56:42.000Jack, read us what you just put on Telegram.
02:58:46.000I kind of, I'm going to disagree there where I think the temptation everyone falls into with Trump is they'll ask him, you know, do you worry about getting assassinated?
02:58:55.000Do you work like, what do you, what's your thing on Epstein?
02:59:26.000And to complete the thought, what actually where you get the most interesting Trump things is someone good.
02:59:34.000Where you get the most interesting stuff, not mine.
02:59:38.000It's where you get the most interesting stuff is you'll get the most interesting Trump takes when you ask him like about policy stuff.
02:59:45.000Like what's the most famous stuff he did in 2016?
02:59:47.000Oh, what's my solution on immigration?
02:59:49.000I'm going to build a wall and Mexico is going to pay for the wall.
02:59:52.000Or this cycle where they ask him about drugs coming over the border and he just sort of wings it.
02:59:57.000Yeah, we're going to execute the drug dealers.
03:00:00.000And all those people I released from prison under criminal justice reform, if they reoffend, they're getting executed.
03:00:08.000And we're getting wild stuff on sort of very mundane topics.
03:00:12.000So what's sort of strange is I think the missed opportunity is if you ask Trump a very basic policy question, you'll often get a very interesting answer that can totally shake up the debate.
03:00:22.000Like they would ask him about schools and he would just be like, yeah, you know, I think our public schools aren't doing great.
03:00:28.000We should we should fire all the teachers.
03:00:30.000We should make all the teachers nationwide reapply for their jobs.
03:00:33.000You know, he'd just make up something like that.
03:00:34.000And then five years from now, it'll be the GOP platform because of that.