00:01:44.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:02:34.000The lead we are going to talk about is the Trump mugshot.
00:02:37.000Jack, are these people really that stupid that they needed to have a mugshot of the most photographed man in the last hundred years?
00:02:44.000Well, Charlie, I mean, of course, that's a more existential question as to whether or not communists actually are people.
00:02:49.000So, you know, speaking as a guy of Polish descent, you know, the jury's still out on that one.
00:02:54.000But when it really comes down to it, of course, only Fannie Willis would have such a subroom temperature IQ that she would actually allow this powerful, energetic, nuclear WMD of mimetic warfare to be placed into Trump's hands.
00:03:15.000I think it already goes without saying that this is the most viewed photo probably of the last 50 years.
00:03:21.000This is the most iconic American photo since World War II.
00:03:57.000I mean, Andrew or Jack or Tyler, I mean, I think Joy Reed and the anti-white cabal at MSNBC, I think they showed us that this is just pure spectacle.
00:04:08.000They hate him so much that they wanted to, do we have the Stalin picture, Ryan?
00:04:12.000How quickly can we throw that up there?
00:04:59.000Trotsky was in an American prison in New York and was released by the American government, got stopped in Halifax, Canada on the way on a CIA, then OSS operation to then put Trotsky and Lennon together to.
00:06:00.000Because they've now turned this into a symbol that really has the most, let's just say, the most unusual groups of people from internet memers to black rappers to just people in the middle that are now more sympathizing towards Donald Trump as a cultural figure, Andrew.
00:06:18.000Yeah, I mean, I think the answer to that question, Charlie, is twofold.
00:06:21.000One, I think they're just bloodthirsty.
00:06:24.000I think that they have wanted this so much for so long.
00:06:29.000I mean, there was that one clip that we played during the show, Charlie, about Joy Reed saying Alvin Bragg was a coward.
00:07:48.000Their idea is that they don't care if we turn it into an iconic image because they think that when we get into the general and you look at the schedule of all the trials coming down, that he lost 6% of Republicans in 2020 and he won like 48 or 49% of Independents.
00:08:11.000They are making the calculation that as each and every one of these trials play out and they get exposed to the damning evidence of Trump's guilt, that he's slowly going to bleed more Republicans and he's slowly going to bleed more independents.
00:08:25.000And so they're just basically saying, we want the picture.
00:08:54.000Yeah, I mean, the thing that is most important for all of us to focus on is that they have to do all of this, right?
00:09:02.000This is a coordinated effort because Trump was exactly right about Biden when he called them out for all the Ukraine stuff and they impeached him.
00:09:15.000And so all of this is just a continuation.
00:09:18.000So your first question was like, all this hubbub, the circus, like this is just like, this is just becoming more and more apparent as a circus.
00:09:25.000Their bet is like, again, a Linskyite type stuff, right?
00:09:29.000Which is like, we're doing this because we think we can manipulate the general public into thinking there's something really wrong here.
00:09:36.000And the truth is, is that this is just a continuation since they were wrong.
00:09:40.000And now it's even more important for them.
00:09:42.000They have to cover up the fact that that was a complete manufactured lie, arguably to cover for Biden to begin with when this whole thing started.
00:09:52.000So there's many elements this, and I have to kind of indulge in my own news story, if that's okay, guys, because, you know, I just, someone sent me about three or four links while we're on here, and it kind of plays into this.
00:10:05.000So the attempt to try to make Donald Trump a felon or a criminal ties into this 14th Amendment stuff.
00:10:11.000And Jack, you and I have been dialoguing on this.
00:10:13.000Andrew, I think it's one of the most fun things we've done as a show, and it's gone totally viral, and it's still ongoing.
00:10:19.000So, you know, the media says, oh, Charlie Kirk falsely pushes this thing that Donald Trump won't be on the ballot.
00:10:24.000Well, breaking as we are doing this, Bostonglobe.com, lawsuit to disqualify Trump filed in New Hampshire.
00:10:32.000So, Andrew, I mean, I could tell the story from my perspective.
00:10:34.000I think it'd be more fun, Andrew, for the audience to hear it from your perspective and tie this into the mugshot criminalization of Trump and the attempt to try to get Trump off the ballot and how our program played a role in shining a lot light on these cockroaches.
00:10:47.000Well, it was, yeah, to your first point, it's one of the most fun, enjoyable W's that we get to take as a show.
00:10:55.000That NBC, NBC called it falsely suggested that New Hampshire was going to, you know, it was entertaining this.
00:11:06.000Ryan, if you want to bring up Corky from his, I think he did a local radio interview in New Hampshire where he said, and where he said, yeah, I think this is real.
00:11:18.000You know, the Atlantic's talking about it.
00:11:20.000These Federalist Society judges or law scholars are talking about it.
00:12:22.000I mean, this is this is a, when it comes to elite institutional, you know, Overton window expanding stuff, this is big time exhibit A, how they do it.
00:12:47.000We're going to go for it and we're going to take it out before they can start this.
00:12:50.000And then, you know, to the credit of the show and to you, Charlie, and actually, Tyler, Tyler, you set this up where we got to speak with Chris Agers, who's the NHGRI.
00:14:18.000Only the media, only the government, only academia, only Anthony Fauci, these types, et cetera, are allowed to raise the alarm about, quote, what's going on in society.
00:14:29.000So you'll see this playbook run again and again and again, where if they want to inflame the public, they'll say, police officers are disproportionately killing unarmed black men.
00:14:40.000And they'll just say it over and over and over, even though if you point to the statistics, it just doesn't bear out.
00:14:58.000Joe Biden this week took a break from his never-ending vacation tour, tour of vacation sites, where by the way, he's going to Alaska for vacation on 9-11, apparently.
00:15:10.000And the first president since 9-11 that hasn't actually gone to a site.
00:15:14.000But he took a break from his vacation tour, his whirlwind tour of vacations to tell us and remind us that white supremacy is the number one threat in America.
00:15:22.000Yes, it's white supremacy that's going to shoot you on the streets of every single city in the United States.
00:15:28.000It's white supremacy that you have to look out for when you're going to your ATM in Anacostia, D.C.
00:15:34.000It's white supremacy that's to blame for the U.S. dollar being what it is.
00:15:39.000And so it's very, very telling then that the response you see when somebody like a Charlie Kerr raises one of these issues, which then corresponds with public pressure that they have to try to shut it down.
00:15:57.000I mean, the Independent, which is, Andrew, I don't know if there's a more reprehensible, you know, let's just say SEO sourced thing out there.
00:17:06.000So we never said that he was going to get removed from the ballot.
00:17:09.000We said there's a move afoot in California and New Hampshire so far, and who knows where else, just to unilaterally move to remove Trump from the ballot based on not even a conviction, just the fact that he's disqualified himself from aiding and abetting insurrectionists or whatever.
00:17:28.000So we said, listen, if this was our point, this was your point.
00:17:34.000You said, if any Secretary of State or any county official so much as sniffs at this harebrained legal theory that you can just unilaterally remove Trump from a ballot,
00:17:46.000then all the red state counties and red state secretary of states better get ready and mobilize and do the same and pull the traitor Joe Biden off the ballot, which I think is a completely smart and wise and reasonable reaction to them pulling what Dershowitz says is an end of democracy type move.
00:18:05.000They will literally end democracy if they do that.
00:18:07.000And again, I know we're a representational Republican.
00:18:12.000And so, but this is a really important point here is that, and Tyler, I'm going to kind of put you, you know, your thing, the RNC on the spot, because you've done a great job.
00:18:24.000Wouldn't it have been helpful if the RNC chairwoman would have taken questions from the audience?
00:18:31.000I want you to go back through this for our audience.
00:18:33.000And if the RNC passed a resolution saying that it does not matter if you're an indicted or accused felon, you can become a party's nominee.
00:18:42.000I mean, that would have been a big statement, right?
00:18:44.000I mean, that's what would be nice, right?
00:18:46.000Like right now, what should have happened?
00:19:11.000The greater atmosphere of the Republican Party right now, nine out of 10 Republican primary voters probably would say, I don't really watch Fox as much anymore.
00:20:04.000So I mean, it's not, this isn't, this isn't Flint, Michigan, right?
00:20:08.000So like, you know, which again, that's a, that's a Democrat construct.
00:20:12.000So, you know, you look at this and you go, if these things are happening, first off, why are you not nimble enough to change that to make a environment where your top vote getter is going to come and your former president and your former president?
00:20:29.000But then most importantly, like, what good does it do?
00:20:32.000So the bigger question like the RNC should be asking itself and every Republican Party apparatus should be asking itself, whether it's statewide, countywide, local, your precinct, is what I'm doing helpful to getting people elected.
00:20:48.000The debate, if I ask you the question, is this helping elect our nominee?
00:20:54.000Well, our nominee right now, by about 50 points, is going to be Donald Trump, and he's not there.
00:21:00.000So how could that possibly be helpful?
00:21:02.000So you're saying that the RNC should have said no debate.
00:21:05.000So the RC should say no debate because of what you're saying, which is the message that we should already be driving at this point, which is like, it doesn't matter what happens to anyone here.
00:21:14.000It doesn't matter what false narrative that the left pushes.
00:21:17.000By the way, Rana could be out on the microphone every single day saying they lied about President Trump.
00:22:13.000So if they would have canceled the debate and they could have done maybe a forum or whatever, I mean, it would have been a stronger message because, I mean, by the way, their ratings were cut in half.
00:22:22.000The ratings were in half of what they were back in 2016 for the first debate.
00:22:28.000And I can't imagine these upcoming debates are going to be as worse.
00:22:36.000I was going to say on that, you have to actually combine this with the last topic because it wasn't just that they were cut in half, but because the mugshot came out afterwards, nobody remembers that.
00:22:47.000We've totally been erased from everyone's front of mind space.
00:22:53.000You know, Andrew, you know how important front of mind is for NPR and marketing, et cetera.
00:22:58.000So the fact that you would have to sit here and think, look, we all do this, you know, professionally, whatever.
00:23:04.000And you'd have to actually sit there and think about, okay, what was that thing I like to debate again, right?
00:23:09.000I remember because the mugshot just dominated everyone's cranial airspace for the next, you know, 72 hours in such a way that, look, this picture has been seen by like people who are living on an island that have never been contacted by the outside world.
00:23:24.000People are actually putting this picture into it.
00:23:27.000They're putting this picture into glass bottles and throwing them into the ocean.
00:24:04.000Viewed the mug, because you're only going to remember one line from the debate, maybe two, right?
00:24:09.000So this is what we talk about all the time on social media with like, the impact that you have Jack, and the impact that Charlie has, the impact that Benny has and and so many others, and turning point has is, like people only remember so much yes, and so these three minute segments that they have of Fox are so outdated.
00:24:25.000People are really remembering 30 seconds.
00:24:27.000But then they also want this long form element right, which is like they want to come to a long form to know that what they're hearing is actually true.
00:24:35.000But they're only going to take away the soundbite, the Rush Limba style soundbite.
00:25:01.000So I mean just to play a little bit of devil's advocate, though it's.
00:25:05.000You know, the HILL reported yesterday Trump drops six points in post debate GOP poll.
00:25:12.000Um, I know that Trump put out a truth social, saying it's wrong.
00:25:15.000He didn't drop it all, he went up, I mean it.
00:25:19.000Is there a potential you know scenario here where we're assuming the mugshot is good because we like it but actually when you poll the general population, it is having a negative impact.
00:25:33.000No, I was just gonna say I don't think the mugshot will necessarily have that, but i'm curious to see how the trials play out.
00:25:40.000So if it looks as though the trials have this, this schedule, which is supposedly being set during the primary season um, or even at any point during 2024, that if you have these trials in 2024 completely unprecedented we've never had anything like this in our history that will it have a segment of the population that is enthralled by it, that is turned off by it?
00:26:04.000Or and I probably would lean more towards this is that people would just kind of with the exception of the one that's on tv people would be checked out.
00:26:12.000I think people would be checked out because like go go go, ask somebody on the street, yo hey, what are, what are the four Trump indictments, right?
00:26:19.000You know, i'd love that'd be a good like uh, like Sad Fernandez, you know, man on the street video.
00:26:23.000I don't even know if anybody could name one of them, can you?
00:26:29.000It's curious too if they overreached with four right, if one would have been more powerful right if, if they would have just let Jack Smith do his thing and keep Fulton County out of it, let keep keep Alvin Bragg out of it.
00:26:42.000I mean, it's clear when you look at the timeline that there is a vast left-wing conspiracy to actually get Trump, And it's not even, you know, I'm not saying that.
00:26:54.000It was like, yeah, there was, you know, we're going to subvert an election to charge somebody for subverting an election, right?
00:27:00.000So, like, the whole thing, the circular logic of it all is really weird.
00:27:03.000But I actually think you might be right, Jack, that because they've gone for deep, it almost starts blazing over people's heads, especially people that aren't news junkies like us that are following this like so closely.
00:27:16.000It's just kind of like at this point, what else could you throw at him?
00:27:19.000Do you guys even remember that he's indicted for Stormy Daniels payments?
00:27:44.000And again, this is like Charlie's point.
00:27:46.000The RNC chair, Mitch McConnell, like we have losers that don't talk about this stuff.
00:27:52.000Because I don't, I do you think they don't care, or is it just they're controlled, or is it just like, why aren't you every day being like, oh, an indictment?
00:28:00.000You mean like the Stormy Daniels thing that Michael Avenatti is now in jail?
00:28:04.000You say that, like the general public of America is like, oh, yeah.
00:28:10.000Oh, oh, you mean like this false accusation, like the Russian collusion that ended up being right about Biden and Ukraine that we're now investigating in Congress?
00:28:18.000Well, that's like 30 seconds of like you've just, you've just convinced the entire American public.
00:28:25.000I was watching a package, though, Tyler.
00:28:27.000Like, and this is how the mainstream news media, which again, you have to think about like our old rhino kind of centrist Republicans are still consuming their news.
00:28:37.000They, they, they basically said, oh, and the Democrats are practically begging Republicans to start this impeachment inquiry.
00:28:44.000They think it'll, it'll backfire on them in the general election, right?
00:28:47.000So the centralization is the media says just do the just do the opposite.
00:28:53.000I mean, I think the electorate is looking for us to have a backbone, is looking for the Republican Party to have a backbone.
00:28:57.000I certainly know that's what we've been calling for, but that is the logic.
00:29:02.000They think that if they shut down the government on September 30th, they think that if they actually move forward with impeaching Biden, that it's going to have this negative backlash from the population, from voters.
00:29:14.000But, you know, what's funny in that is that Democrats are not showing any such caution.
00:29:19.000They're going ahead and indicting Trump four times over.
00:29:22.000They don't care about any so-called backlash.
00:29:24.000They're calculating the complete opposite.
00:29:27.000So, you know, this is the state of things, sadly.
00:30:25.000So make sure you talk to the people at Noble Gold Investments and find out if it's the right solution for you, the right place for you to buy precious metals.
00:31:23.000There's been some real, real bad ones.
00:31:25.000But I got to tell you, I got to tell you, this might be the worst one for our country, for our kids, because Charlie, they're already, and I know you and I have been having discussions offline about this pretty extensively.
00:31:37.000They're actually talking about bringing mask mandates back, not in the future, right now.
00:32:55.000The Democrat wet dream is for every single human being that exists in America, citizen or non-citizen, to have the capacity to vote like literally from their mobile phone.
00:33:10.000And that, and that's what we have to prevent.
00:33:11.000And that's the reason why election integrity measures are so important to talk about keeping the precinct, paper ballots, everything has to be there.
00:33:17.000And that's what we read the resolution.
00:33:19.000But like we talk about, but I have like the best analogy, I think, for, can we play this video?
00:34:48.000They, they, they have, they have actually proven that that's true because it makes sense.
00:34:54.000Health and human services versus like the military, right?
00:34:57.000Like, it's just military is going to like, if they have the microphone, they're going to make your country more conservative.
00:35:03.000You know, Dr. Fauci is going to make your country more liberal.
00:35:06.000So that was the mistake that Trump made in that regard is giving a microphone to these people and not recognizing that.
00:35:11.000But my analogy in sequels is that Jaws, if Jaws is your 9-11, really warmly received by the entire country, left and right, one of the best movies ever made, you know, almost 100% at the tomato meter.
00:35:25.000Jaws 2 is one of the worst sequels ever made, which is COVID, right?
00:35:31.000As far as like national emergencies go.
00:35:34.000No one ever remembers the worst movie ever made, which was the sequel to the sequel, which is Jaws the Revenge, which has a 0% tomato meter and 15% audience.
00:36:14.000So we were watching Reading Rainbow because you know how it makes all the sounds like and like kids would read a book and go, do, and that's why I read this book.
00:36:32.000And one of the kids goes, I think that even though September 11th was bad, it was also really good.
00:36:40.000And she was talking about how the country came together.
00:36:42.000So like after that, like that was the good part of September 11th.
00:36:46.000Yeah, people have people have made that point.
00:36:48.000Glennbach had the whole 9-12 thing for a while.
00:36:50.000But it was funny because this kid on Reading Rainbow was like, oh, September 11th was really bad, but it was also really good.
00:36:56.000This was like right after September 11th.
00:36:58.000But the whole point is this is like Jaws was a really good movie.
00:37:02.000Like September 11th, ultimately, it strengthened the country.
00:37:05.000The country was invariably more American after September 11th, regardless of what you think about the handling and the lead up and the conspiracy and everything else that's around it.
00:37:19.000But COVID definitely didn't make the country a better place as a society.
00:37:23.000COVID made us all more reclusive and more despising one another and cautious.
00:37:32.000I still walk through a Walmart or something and hear someone cough.
00:37:35.000And even me, I'm like triggered by it because of COVID.
00:38:38.000So Tali Key, he was pictured with his professor, Zizhi Yan, just months before he shot him dead in college physics lab as Wuhan educated suspect is charged with first-degree murder.
00:38:54.000I actually went on a deep dive when this story came out because if you know that the time, the timeline is kind of interesting.
00:39:01.000And Jack, you might know this actually a little bit better than I do, but like 2013, Obama and the NIH issued a moratorium on gain of function research.
00:39:11.000Well, guess who the leading gain of function researcher in the world was at the time?
00:39:16.000Ralph Barrick at University of North Carolina.
00:39:19.000So he then goes to China and finds the Wuhan Institute of Virology and Peter Dasik and EcoHealth Alliance, and they partner with the Yuhan Institute.
00:39:30.000And so Barrick even gave certain cultures and cells and all stuff to get this researcher, I think Xi or something, jump-started in gain of function research research using bat quantum, right?
00:39:44.000By the way, Ralph Barrick looks like the most unassuming fall guy in every bat, like for every bad guy in every movie.
00:40:12.000How weird is it that like as we're getting like these masks coming back, the vaccines, the Joe Biden requesting funding from Congress for a new booster?
00:40:22.000I mean, you know, Karine John Pierre going from the podium at the White House saying, hey, we're going to get these out by September 15th or whatever.
00:40:29.000And then in the middle of that, just this random shooting that exposed this weird connection between Wuhan Institute of Virology and UNC and Ralph Barrick, this Wuhan educated, you know, academic goes on a shooting spree at UNC and kills his professor.
00:40:54.000Well, you remember the one, though, that, and I'm just going to say it reminds me of this, that there was a guy by the name of Bing Lio, she's, or I guess Lio Bing, because I'm reading on a BBC site.
00:41:06.000So he was a professor, assistant professor at the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine who was found dead on May of 2020 while he was doing research.
00:41:17.000He was a Chinese-born assistant researcher on coronavirus in the United States in early 2020.
00:41:25.000So May of 2020, mid to early 2020, but early in the pandemic.
00:41:30.000And all of a sudden is found killed in a murder-suicide in the Pittsburgh area, supposedly killed by this guy, Guhao, who was a software engineer that people said, oh, they barely even knew if we knew each other.
00:41:46.000And it's like, it's just eerily similar to me as to what's going on.
00:41:51.000And, you know, if I were to commit a thought crime, I would say, I'll just go put it this way.
00:41:56.000Do we really not think that the CCP doesn't have intelligence cells operating inside the United States?
00:42:03.000And don't we already know that the CCP has intelligence rings that have directly targeted these research centers?
00:42:09.000I mean, how many times does Natalie Winters have tell us about it over at the war room, right?
00:42:34.000That would be a thought crime for me to say there was ever some underlying like what I was at when I was at Gitmo.
00:42:41.000So we were never allowed to call them radical jihadis, but we would say we would my one of the guys I was deployed there with was saying, if only we could find some connection, some commonality, you know, between these terrorists who believe in a certain ideology of which we were not allowed to discuss.
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00:45:20.000It's aggravating seeing people on conservative news try to identify with me like I'm one of them.
00:45:28.000It's aggravating seeing certain musicians and politicians act like we're buddies and act like we're fighting the same struggle here, like that we're just trying to present the same message.
00:45:39.000You know, like it was funny seeing my song in the it was fun.
00:45:43.000It was funny seeing it the presidential debate because it's like I wrote that song about those people, you know?
00:45:50.000So for them to have to sit there and listen to that, that cracks me up.
00:45:57.000But it was funny kind of seeing the response to it.
00:45:59.000Like that song has nothing to do with Joe Biden, you know?
00:46:26.000What should we make of Ginger Beard Man?
00:46:29.000So he also put out another statement, and I'll give you a piece of it just so to give him full clarity.
00:46:36.000Because even after that video, which was very confusing to all the conservatives who had supported him, had promoted him, had paid money to his music, had traveled hours and hours of vast distances to go see him to hear him disavowing conservatives.
00:46:53.000He then also wrote, corporate news is now trying to twist me into being a Biden supporter.
00:46:58.000That song has nothing to do with Joe Biden.
00:48:05.000But Oliver Anthony, you know, this guy, I get it, right?
00:48:10.000Like, he doesn't want to come out and say, hey, man, I'm a died in the wool Republican or, hey, man, I'm a Democrat.
00:48:15.000I think he's probably just coming from a normal common perspective and trying to say that, you know, he doesn't want to be claimed by one side or the other.
00:49:37.000I actually think the way I interpreted his video was that he's actually raging against people like Nikki Haley, Mike Pence, Chris Christie, this neocon vibe, because he talks about caring about other lands as opposed to caring about America.
00:49:59.000I mean, we've talked about these strange bedfellows that we sometimes run up against in modern politics where this nationalist populist urge can kind of, the movement can kind of end up creating alliances that match not that long ago, right?
00:50:17.000So I think it's a really interesting, he's basically just saying, hey, all that bottom paid for stuff, I don't care if you're left or right, I don't like it.
00:50:25.000And that's basically the same message we have on our show.
00:50:28.000So that's why I didn't take offense to it, but I can understand why some people, it was ambiguous enough because he's ultimately not a political creature.
00:50:37.000His very political song took fire and now he's sort of thrust in the spotlight or politics, but I don't know that he's versed at it.
00:50:45.000And I think that's a reflection that a lot of people just aren't that good at talking about politics.
00:50:51.000And I actually do want to push back on what he, what, I won't come down him.
00:50:56.000I'm not going to come down the guy, but people have been saying, and you can tell that there's definitely sounds like some of these, these responses were crafted in, you know, they sound like PR Spin, right?
00:51:09.000And Andrew, you know PR Spin, obviously.
00:51:12.000That, you know, it's like, he's saying like, oh, you know, that line about, you know, kids in the street ain't got nothing to eat and five foot three and buying your fudge rounds.
00:51:21.000And he goes, well, that was a, that was a contextualization of an attack on the welfare system as well as the state of the American food supply.
00:51:30.000That's what RFK Jr. actually said, because it's so much cheaper and easier to buy junk food than it is to buy healthy food.
00:51:36.000I'm like, but that's not what the basic lyric of the song was.
00:51:39.000And if you listen to the basic lyrics of the song, it is definitely national populism.
00:51:46.000It's definitely bringing up issues that are clearly on the right side of the aisle.
00:51:51.000Maybe not your old school traditional conservatism, sure, but it's definitely a MAGA anthem, right?
00:51:57.000It is definitely playing into to the point of where it even has a Jeffrey Epstein reference, okay?
00:52:02.000So let's cut the spin, cut through the spin a little bit and point out this was very clearly a song that directly tracked with a lot of people that would consider themselves on the right or center right.
00:52:16.000And so to come out now and say, oh, no, it has nothing to do with that.
00:54:46.000But if you're saying both sides as if there aren't, you know, differences between the people who are on the side of the populace and the people who are in DC, then I would just have to call you out as saying, like, what my eye do is actually, you're actually trying to dissuade people from taking action.
00:55:03.000You have a pacifying stand as opposed to what I would say, everything that Carly and Tyler and you guys do at Turning Point.
00:56:45.000And I'm sorry, like I just, the whole IDW thing, it was cringe from the moment it began.
00:56:50.000It was this absolute instead of like, instead of saying, you know, we're for what's pragmatic and we're for what works, they're like, we're going to take the best sides of both ideologies and work.
00:57:25.000But if you're one of these people that's like mealy mouth and Charlie, to use a perhaps biblical phrase, lukewarm, then you just want to split it out of your mouth.
00:57:48.000You guys decided to get a hero who hates you.
00:57:52.000What you're breaking down, Charlie, is friend-enemy distinction, right?
00:57:56.000So you're taking the cues from these areas, which they will tell you, right?
00:58:02.000They will, if remember, if Andrew Norm Eisen tells you that Donald Trump shouldn't be on the ballot, the entire media will say, oh, wow, the highly respected Norm Eisen says that Trump shouldn't be on the ballot.
00:58:19.000And you're using the media as an inverse lens basically to show you who friends and enemies are.
00:58:25.000Yeah, and I've been, I actually personally didn't comment either way on the Oliver Anthony thing for a while, right?
00:58:30.000Andrew, we didn't cover it on the show, and he did it this, he did this to himself because obviously he wants to be loved by these people.
00:58:36.000He has a yearn to be a celebrity, and he's enjoying talking to the rock and all that stuff.
00:58:41.000And I mean, something, something appealed, like something, I think it was Jack, you said something about this, but it's this.
00:58:48.000I do think that it shows the lack of sticking power still within the conservative cultural sort of movement side of things, right?
00:58:57.000I mean, we have this whole political ecosystem, the, you know, the Charlie Kirk show to War Room to Glenn Beck, you know, that can that has some staying power.
00:59:06.000But when you're talking about real cultural moments, you still sort of want to, there is this draw, especially when you're younger, when you're in entertainment, to go outside of that ecosystem, even when that ecosystem gave you your success, because you know, you don't want to be owned by anybody or whatever, I guess.
00:59:25.000But I think you're, I think what it is, is he was confronted with this overnight sensation, the success.
00:59:31.000And all the articles at first, Charlie, were like new right-wing anthem, all this like racist, whatever.
00:59:38.000And he was probably like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, I don't want to be a mascot.
00:59:43.000I'm going to, I'm going to put a little distance here.
00:59:45.000And what he didn't realize is that the reactions from you guys on this show, I haven't really thought that hard about it, to be honest.
00:59:52.000But that the same success that he had, because people like those who listen to this show got behind him, he's going to alienate those people.
01:00:02.000So, you know, you can't split the baby in modern America with this stuff.
01:01:01.000But just understand, this is what they're going to do with Oliver Anthony.
01:01:03.000They need a way to splinter the white working class base.
01:01:06.000And they're going to try to find somebody in music, in art, whatever it is.
01:01:11.000And they tried to do some McConaughey, but he failed, okay?
01:01:14.000Where they can try to get a little bit of doubt into this new identity politic group that has really been built in the Trump MAGA movement as this solid monolith.
01:01:25.000Anything they can do to cast doubt in the white working class base, they try to do this with Yellowstone, Kevin Costner.
01:01:33.000This is part of a strategy because white working class America, with a little bit of swing voters, wins elections, right, Tyler?
01:01:39.000Well, I mean, think about the real scary part of America.
01:01:43.000We see this all the time in the places that you go speak at.
01:01:46.000Half of the religious, the religiously affiliated in America don't vote.
01:01:52.000They're not even registered to vote, right?
01:02:06.000One of the most threatening things to the left that exists right now is that country music is the only thing that they don't completely control.
01:02:13.000So I don't know if you remember this whole thing that happened not that long ago, but a guy just released an album, kind of similar vibes as a guy named Zach Bryan.
01:02:23.000It's very, you know, very popular, especially with women right now.
01:02:26.000And remember, he got that whole Travis.
01:02:29.000Remember, they got in the spat over the Dylan Mulvaney stuff.
01:03:23.000By this whole thing, because they want to do anything that they possibly can to hijack their churches and hijack country music because they only splinter a little bit.
01:03:38.000We've been covering this on human events for a while now.
01:03:42.000It really started back in February with, yes, it started with Yellowstone and basically people realizing that all of these sort of left-wing narratives were being laundered into to the right and laundered to a conservative audience through Yellowstone.
01:04:00.000And the writer of Yellowstone, Taylor Sheridan, specifically said he was going to do it.
01:05:02.000Anyways, McCarran ends up saying to the family and others like them in Nevada, hey, I'm in a fight to make sure that you guys don't lose your land.
01:06:28.000So, let me go into this even worse because there's an even worse situation that we found because it turns out that these hick libs, there's also YouTubers that are hicclibs, and many of which are just sort of these made-up personas.
01:06:46.000You see a lot of this in like the gun community, like they target the Second Amendment types.
01:06:51.000And so, there was an article a couple years ago in the LA Times, and I posted this link a while back.
01:07:05.000Give people searching online for terms like join oath keepers or quote bomb instructions some content that seemed to fit their request, but instead offered an alternative to extremism.
01:07:18.000Keep in mind, this is whatever Google defines as extremism, YouTube.
01:07:21.000A method developed by a partnership of a British firm called Moonshot CVE is called the Redirect.
01:07:29.000Through partnerships with Google, as well as the Anti-Defamation League, the ADL, everyone's favorite nonprofit, totally unbiased, is to dissuade users from pursuing conspiracies and violent rhetoric by luring them with advertisements to other sites.
01:07:45.000In an internet figure known as Bo of the Fifth Column, Moonshot thought that it had found the perfect person to redirect online users to broadcasting under a bare light bulb from a shed packed with camping gear.
01:07:59.000Bo appeared as a southern gun owner with progressive views.
01:08:03.000Southern gun over gun owner with progressive views, a calming demeanor, an unkept beard, a military aura, and a huge YouTube following.
01:08:13.000And yet, his progressive views were then pushed via YouTube, again, in partnership with the ADL, to steer gun owners, southerners, conservatives towards progressive views.
01:08:27.000And it turns out this guy is like a totally convicted felon.
01:08:31.000There's like all sorts of like just total insanity behind the guy.
01:08:34.000But the point is that the whole thing actually started on YouTube as a psyop with essentially Google, the ADL, and a British nonprofit working together to steer people towards what we call the hick lib content.
01:09:21.000Donald Trump taught Socrates everything he knew.
01:09:26.000So what's now being revealed through a Twitter account as well as a Telegram page called Trump History is the true history of Donald Trump, his background, and his historic accomplishments, achievements, and contributions to the growth of human society.
01:09:47.000Now, the media constantly overlooks these things.
01:09:50.000For example, in this case, we have, I believe we have the image right here of Donald Trump when he was teaching Western philosophy.
01:10:12.000So there's Donald Trump teaching his student Socrates, who would then go on to teach Plato, taught Aristotle, who taught Alexander the Great, all about morality and Western philosophy.
01:10:24.000There's images that are now being revealed of temples and statues, carvings to Donald Trump that were made in ancient Egypt.
01:10:31.000Radiocarbon dating suggests these monuments roughly 4,500 years old.
01:10:36.000Donald Trump traveling through space and time to collect the seven dragon balls.
01:10:41.000Donald Trump and Elon Musk inventing the Tesla Roadster in the 1900s.