In this episode of Thought Crime Live, we are joined by the whole motley crew. Blake Neff, Andrew Colvett, Jack Pasovic, Tyler Boyer, and Mikey McCoy join us to talk about a variety of topics.
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00:01:10.000Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Thought Crime Live.
00:02:54.000By the way, shout out because we got two beautiful ladies here in the front wearing thought crime t-shirts that they made themselves, which is so amazing.
00:03:20.000Look, when we started this show, and Tyler, maybe you could speak to this a little bit because we started this show with Charlie because we needed to find a way to kind of talk about those subjects and talk about those topics that didn't really fit into a daily news cycle.
00:03:38.000They didn't really fit into just whatever was going on on Twitter or something like that.
00:03:43.000So we said, let's do a show where it's just a couple of the guys sitting around talking about the issues, and we're going to break all the rules.
00:03:52.000Yeah, I mean, that's where it started was thought crime was developed as every day.
00:03:59.000It's like the hard news that Charlie was delivering, and it was exhausting to talk about it every single day.
00:04:20.000All right, folks, we got a lot of people here today, so I say we're just going for it.
00:04:24.000Now, as Charlie would always say, disagreers to the front because that is the standard that Charlie has always said.
00:04:32.000So if you disagree with something we ever said, and you know, in fact, and if anything that Charlie ever said, we'll come up here, we'll speak for him if we can.
00:05:29.000Because when I see those Disney adults that are walking around at Disneyland and Disney World, I'm telling you, those guys give me creeper vibes like Blippy.
00:06:35.000No, I can steel man this, and I do want to move topics because I don't want to do all Star Wars, but Return of the Jedi is a great movie because it shows the redemption arc, and it shows a biblical redemption arc, whereby when Darth Vader goes and atones for what he's done and seeks redemption through his son, his son leads him on the path from evil to goodness.
00:07:01.000That's the original story of Star Wars.
00:07:05.000But then George Lucas got involved, and then Disney got involved.
00:07:09.000And I'm sorry, David Kennedy got involved.
00:07:11.000They messed it all up and they made it fake and gay just like Netflix.
00:08:00.000It's like the Resistance Alliance or whatever.
00:08:04.000All of them, it's like the diversity quota at the United Nations or something are the good guys.
00:08:10.000And I'm sorry, but it's very clear what you're doing because you're trying to paint a target on the back of straight white men in this country.
00:08:52.000But actually, something else Charlie did is, especially on long flights, he would have his laptop open and he would be arguing with ChatGPT for like five hours.
00:09:03.000And he was like, I would say, what are you doing, Charlie?
00:09:05.000He's like, I'm practicing for the campus tours.
00:09:08.000And he would tell ChatGPT, you know, pretend to be a purple-haired lib at Berkeley.
00:10:16.000I think all throughout Charlie's life and everything that I ever watched, he wrote down in lists and lists and lists and he would cross through things every time.
00:12:58.000My grandfather was in the Vietnam War as a Marine.
00:12:59.000My dad was in Operation Desert Storm as a Marine.
00:13:03.000So sometimes I struggle with the thought of imperialism.
00:13:07.000And I think that sometimes we should be the world police because a lot of people do really bad things.
00:13:13.000But then also sometimes I think that we should let others settle their disputes on their own and kind of save our tax money for domestic problems.
00:13:22.000I just want to know what you guys' thoughts are on that and what your advice is for me.
00:15:18.000My answer to all of that is America first.
00:15:22.000I am interested to see, though, by raise of hand, who in the room is America first in America only, and who in the room is America first, but not America only.
00:15:34.000All right, America first and America only.
00:15:55.000So, look, when it comes down to it, I think one of the reasons that Trump won in the first place is this idea that America had become, had suffered what many historic empires, as Blake knows, imperial overreach.
00:16:09.000And getting involved in every single dispute around the country, or excuse me, around the world, is not what our founding fathers instituted America as a limited republic to be able to do.
00:16:19.000It was made for the benefit of the American people, for our prosperity, for their posterity as well.
00:16:26.000And so, no, that doesn't mean that we have to get involved in every dispute, whether it's Asia, whether it's South America, or yes, even the Middle East.
00:16:39.000I wanted to add just one more expansion on that.
00:16:42.000And then I kind of had your brother ask me a question in return.
00:16:47.000So, what do we, like, where do we draw the line, right?
00:16:50.000Like, in today, I know President Trump's doing a great job trying to hold other countries accountable when we're supplying them with guns and stuff for war and military supplies.
00:17:00.000Where do you draw the line for countries that sort of take advantage of us?
00:17:04.000Like, for instance, you could say Ukraine, where we give them our guns and then right in return, they take them and sell them.
00:17:11.000Yeah, no, when I was in Ukraine in 2022, within a couple hours of traveling to Lviv, right after the war started, I even met people who were selling American weapons right there in Kiev.
00:17:22.000And I was at this place with some of the resistance guys, and they're saying, Hey, if you give us some money, we can give you some ARs and we'll send it.
00:17:30.000And it turns out that he had actually promised someone that he could get them ARs, and he was trying to get me to pay for it because he had already spent the money.
00:17:37.000Totally corrupt, just insane levels of corruption that were going on.
00:17:55.000We draw the line at saying it is stupid for the United States of America to back a losing war and a losing proposition.
00:18:04.000And it gets to the point where we need to put peace first and we need to solve our disputes with talk, with diplomacy, and yes, maybe, and definitely leverage, but not with warfare.
00:18:56.000And my question is related to immigration.
00:18:58.000There's been a lot of talk about it, such as the Hart Seller Act from 1965 and just a lot of discussion over it.
00:19:06.000Trump had even said he believes that we should bring more Scandinavians in.
00:19:10.000As someone who does actually have family from Sweden, my uncle, who's an American but has lived in Sweden for 20 years and has a family, is actually visiting.
00:19:18.000And the thing that gets me is that Europe today is, let's just say, not culturally or politically really similar to America.
00:19:31.000And Europeans, like, culturally, are very different.
00:19:34.000Just as an example, like a poll had showed that 90% of Scandinavians oppose Donald Trump and think Kamala Harris would have been a better president.
00:19:43.000How do we go about immigration reform to ensure that we bring in immigrants that will actually benefit the country and will keep the country America first and culturally conservative long term, even in places that might be aesthetically nice, such as Sweden and Denmark and these other places, but culturally are like to the left of Vermont?
00:20:04.000Yeah, no, that's a great question because there's a lot of foreign countries that are hostile to America.
00:20:10.000We don't have a serious vetting system in our country.
00:20:13.000And so I think the real answer is what's the best way to do?
00:20:16.000Shut down immigration until we can figure out what the hell is going on at our borders.
00:20:23.000We have so many migrants in this country.
00:20:26.000We have tens of millions that are here that came in under Biden that were not vetted at all.
00:20:31.000Some of them, by the way, who came out of Kabul that walk up to our soldiers and shoot them in the head right outside of the White House.
00:20:38.000You got this guy at Brown University who was on a green card and apparently just went on a killing spree to settle an old grudge, it seems like.
00:20:46.000Or we don't really know exactly what happened there, but it's clearly something that's causing a major problem in our country.
00:20:54.000And we have way too many people that should not be here, period.
00:20:58.000And what, 18 billion, the Somalis in Minnesota.
00:21:24.000And once we get a handle, once we get a handle on the people are here and the people who shouldn't be here, then we can talk about whether or not we want to reopen that aperture.
00:21:56.000$225,000 per person of the Somalians in Minnesota.
00:22:00.000And look, folks, when you, here's what happens.
00:22:03.000When you come from a culture that doesn't see anything wrong with scamming, with stealing, with lying, they will go to the government and claim that all of their children have autism and then take every single dollar that's meant for actual special needs kids.
00:22:19.000And they will pocket it and will not feel bad about it at all.
00:22:22.000They will congratulate each other on how smart they were to bilk the U.S. system and use our good nature against us.
00:22:30.000And every single one of them who did that should be arrested and deported immediately.
00:22:34.000Or they'll fake marry their brother so they can get a nicer apartment.
00:22:39.000Some of them even marry their own brothers to sneak into the country.
00:22:43.000I don't know if anyone's ever heard of any name on this.
00:22:46.000Some of them would even do that and then run for Congress.
00:22:50.000They'll give speeches in a non-English language about dedicating their congressional career to the well-being of a country that is not America.
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00:26:31.000At turning point, what's a wonderful thing is that you can be pro a lot of things and not have to like rip each other's heads off about disagreements all the time.
00:26:42.000The vast majority of people, I think this has been demonstrated and discussed a lot, and Charlie said this all the time, is that, you know, America was founded as a Christian nation, that we have Christian principles that enable this country to operate in a way that is accepting and loving of other people who don't necessarily always agree with our faith or what we stand for.
00:27:07.000But the moment you start to walk away from that is the moment that things start to fall apart and people start marrying their brothers to get citizenship and then you have them run for God.
00:27:19.000So you have a situation in America where you can be pro your Christian beliefs and faith and not have to run away from that.
00:27:28.000And that's the America that was founded, that was understood, That the founders really had intended, and not have to be at the throats of other people who disagree, but lead by example and build a community that's going to be welcoming for everyone.
00:27:42.000And I think that's what we've got here: a really welcoming community where I think everybody, no matter what your faith, religious background, you come in and hopefully you're having a great time here in America Fest.
00:27:52.000And I think that that's the environment you can create that really kind of allows for the original intent that the founders had to continue.
00:28:05.000The opposite of that, I would say, is that you can look at some examples that really aren't working, and Europe's a really good example of this, where there's so much bending the knee to other people's cultures and other people's ideas that what's happened is that you don't have any identity any longer.
00:28:22.000And violence ensues, and anger and animosity ensue.
00:28:26.000And that's really a lot of what we're seeing across Europe.
00:28:31.000You mentioned the separation of church and state, but here's what something I found that's so interesting about this.
00:28:35.000Now, obviously, that's not in our Constitution.
00:28:37.000That's not found in our founding documents.
00:28:39.000The First Amendment, the protection of religion enshrined in the First Amendment, was for the protection of the exercise of religion, so that the government couldn't stop you from exercising your religion, and that we would not have a church of America the way that the Church of England had the Church of England, which is now the Anglican Church or the Episcopalian Church in America.
00:28:58.000However, I would posit that after the 1960s and the countercultural revolution or the cultural revolution took place in America, the sexual revolution, the atheist revolution, progressivism took hold.
00:29:10.000Isn't it interesting that there's only one religion that we're told is not allowed in the public square?
00:29:16.000We are told that the only religion that isn't allowed is the religion of Jesus Christ, the Ten Commandments, displays of the cross, nativity scenes in public.
00:29:26.000Every other religion, if it was Islam, they would say, oh, no, no, no, that's intolerance.
00:29:31.000But if it's Christianity, they say, get rid of it, get it out of the public square.
00:30:19.000Yeah, and I'll add to the point on separation of church and state: if the gospel in Christianity is objective truth and it's the highest hierarchy of truth, you cannot separate truth from the state.
00:30:32.000Or anarchy and lies and darkness will then take over where truth is the absence of it.
00:30:38.000And so in a world of lies and darkness, the truth is oftentimes not something that's popular.
00:30:45.000And so as Christians, we have a mandate and an obligation to bring that truth in that light into the darkest places in our nation, in our world.
00:30:55.000And it's oftentimes going to be really unpopular, really uncomfortable.
00:30:59.000And I mean, in Charlie's case, he was literally bringing the truth and the gospel to the darkest places, which is oftentimes college campuses, UC Davis, Berkeley.
00:31:40.000So as a Navy veteran, I'll talk about the USS Liberty.
00:31:43.000And obviously, it's something that we, as Navy veterans, as anyone who serves in the Navy, you learn about, you study, and you realize that we live in a serious world.
00:31:53.000And it's something that a lot of people in the Navy feel that we never really got full accountability for.
00:31:59.000Still have a lot of questions about the Navy investigation that was done and the official statements that came out.
00:32:05.000A lot of people said, you know, just doesn't feel like it's good enough when you have a naval, a ship with flying the U.S. flag that's being attacked by a country that you are nominally supposed to believe is an ally.
00:32:17.000But one interesting piece on this that I've also heard from Roger Stone goes like this.
00:32:23.000So if you look at it, Blake, when was the Gulf of Tonkin?
00:32:32.000Then you have USS Liberty, which comes in 67.
00:32:36.000And so the Gulf of Tonkin incident was a situation where the president at the time, LBJ, used this sort of like fake hoax to get the United States involved in the war in Vietnam by claiming a ship had been attacked.
00:32:50.000Roger Stone says that he's got evidence that it was LBJ was trying to do the exact same thing with the USS Liberty to try to get the U.S. involved in that war as well to turn around and claim that it wasn't Israel that attacked, but that it was Egypt that attacked.
00:33:05.000So I think that's an interesting case study, and it's something that I'd certainly like to look into a lot more myself.
00:33:20.000And I don't think this Amfest would have happened without Erica.
00:33:24.000I don't think it would happen without her strength and her being there as that central cornerstone, new cornerstone for the organization, the one that Charlie chose himself.
00:33:33.000I don't know, Mikey, if you want to speak on that.
00:33:36.000Yeah, I mean, I was talking with Justin from our team at Turning Point USA the other day, and we were both like, we're so exhausted.
00:34:44.000Israel knew it was the U.S., and they still attacked.
00:34:48.000And you can say that and still be pro-Israel, but you can say a lot of time has passed, reparations are paid, but why do we have to lie about it as a movement?
00:35:54.000Form your own states because then you get, for every single state, you get a governor and two red senators added to the United States Senate.
00:36:28.000I don't think you guys are going to like what happens if Trump learns about the fact that the annexation treaty with Texas includes the right for it to divide itself into five additional states without any approval from no Texas isn't allowed to.
00:36:44.000First of all, I just wanted to make a comment.
00:36:47.000Charlie obviously picked all of you for a reason.
00:36:50.000You formed amazing friendships, business relationships, and you're all godly men with families, and this is what needs to go forward.
00:37:01.000You have made being masculine really important.
00:37:05.000And for our boys, that is what makes society what it should be.
00:37:11.000My question, first of all, I am a Republican women's president of an organization of over 100, part of 66,000 women nationally that are part of the National Federation.
00:37:25.000We are looking, and this isn't just my club, we want to know who is going to be the voice of young women or the face of young women coming forward.
00:38:40.000And in media, the conservative movement has struggled for many, many years prior to Turning Point coming around because there just wasn't as much of a youth focus.
00:38:50.000What I love about this is we've got people of all ages that are here.
00:38:54.000But like, this is a cool party where people are feeling like the conservative movement's alive and well and maybe a little bit cooler than it was 10 years ago.
00:39:03.000And that's really important for young men, but that's also really, really critical for young women that feel sometimes excluded in the conservative movement because things just don't feel cool.
00:39:13.000And when you look at Erica Kirk, she's a great example of everything that's cool.
00:39:18.000Being a mom, you know, standing up and being bold still on conservative principles, you know, being able to wear a dress, not having to walk around in a pantsuit like the left does.
00:39:52.000And that's not, that's nothing that men, that's just saying the Erica Kirk effect is real.
00:39:57.000And young women and women in general are listening to the conservative event has always been like there's like it's it's a really bad ratio for girls and they don't show up now there's actually more girls here than guys that's uh you know there's no reason to be single go find your go find your life partner ladies blake is eligible No it's, it's true, though.
00:40:21.000There's, there have been, there have been a lot of turning point couples and turning point marriages, and we're even getting to the era where we're seeing, like turning point babies that have come about from those couples.
00:40:35.000We have any babies, any kids, any parents brought their kids here.
00:40:38.000I see a couple, a couple hands right back there.
00:40:39.000There's one there's there's oh there, she is there, she is hey, merry christmas on the bottom.
00:40:47.000Look, we're raising them right folks, we're raising them right.
00:40:50.000Charlie would have loved this, Charlie and I. Charlie does love this, because he's looking down, he's seeing it, he's seeing the baby boom, he's seeing it happening.
00:40:59.000So you asked about young men, and i'll i'll close on this topic with this is that I gave a speech recently in New York City, where Zora Mandami is about to become the mayor in in two weeks, I know right and I said, you know?
00:41:13.000What struck me though, is that Zora Mundami and Charlie Kirk are almost the same age, actually.
00:41:19.000He's, he's 34 and uh, Charlie would have been 32 right now, and you look at the lives they've led and they're completely different.
00:41:27.000One is a whiny angry parasitic, just nut job who thinks that you should tear people down and tear systems down, take from others and give to yourself kind of guy.
00:41:43.000And that's the system that he's offering to young men and he's a bad rapper and he's a very bad rapper.
00:41:52.000You look at what Charlie offered to young men.
00:41:55.000Young men, if you want to find an Erica, then you've got to be a Charlie.
00:42:00.000And to young women, if you want to find a Charlie, you got to be an Erica.
00:42:05.000All right, and that's the examples that we should be using to push forward, to say you don't have to be bitter and angry and go through life.
00:42:12.000And, by the way, young white men in this country do have a lot of reason to be upset because the entire system is against them and we are going to be fighting that tooth and nail.
00:42:24.000But I promise you there is a system that shows you a way forward, that you can get married, You can have kids.
00:42:31.000You put God at the center, and you don't need the lies of Marxism that are pushed by the likes of Zora Mamdani.
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00:46:06.000What was done there was a miscarriage of justice.
00:46:08.000I believe that Derek Chauvin was wrongfully convicted.
00:46:11.000And there's now, and it's not just me, there's now over 50 current and former Minneapolis police officers that have come forward and stated that that was an approved hold by the Minneapolis Police Department.
00:46:24.000They all lied because they wanted to use Derek Chauvin as a scapegoat for the fact that the officials of Minnesota, like Jacob Frye and Governor Tim Walz and Attorney General, what's his name?
00:46:37.000Keith Ellison, yeah, with his Antifa book, that Keith Ellison allowed the entire city of Minneapolis to burn down on their watch.
00:46:46.000And we are not going to drop this case.
00:46:49.000We are going to fight for justice for Derek Chauvin.
00:46:52.000Hey, they robbed the Cheesecake Factory.
00:47:08.000However, I want to pause on that because I've spoken to some people that know the legal team there, and they said they're not actually asking for a pardon right now, and here's why.
00:47:18.000Because he's in federal prison right now.
00:47:21.000And they're worried that if they put him back into state prison where he was before, that they're going to kill him.
00:47:26.000that that's going to be a death sentence.
00:47:34.000So she's saying that Minnesota will treat him worse than the federal prison, and that's exactly what I was hearing as well from Alpha News and some of the people that have been working on the story directly.
00:47:44.000And shout out to Alpha News, by the way, the incredible Liz Collin.
00:47:56.000So I think the current fight right now is that we have to point out that that trial was a miscarriage of justice and essentially get that declared null and void.
00:48:43.000A lot of these guys serve in deep blue territory, and so they feel like they can't talk.
00:48:49.000We as citizens have to support our police so vocally so they can get involved and say, you know, enough is enough.
00:48:56.000We can't have insane leftist politics enter all of these suburban cities.
00:49:00.000Yeah, and if there's a war on police, then what's going to happen?
00:49:03.000Then you're going to have police officers that don't want to go into those dangerous situations when 911 is called.
00:49:09.000So when I say I support Derek Chauvin, that's not just because of Derek Chauvin as a person.
00:49:14.000That's because that is supporting me and my family so that if we're ever in trouble and we need to call a police officer that they know that they're walking into a situation where the society, where the laws, where the people have their back.
00:49:27.000Well, and Jack, suburban cities right now are getting assaulted with George Soros money to try to replace mayors and city council members who are defunding police across the country.
00:49:41.000This is happening in every suburban city that you think is Republican.
00:49:45.000Most of your cities that you live in, who here lives in a suburban area?
00:49:56.000The rural and suburban areas across America that have higher per capita, that have increasing, you have homes being built, they're already targeting you, trying to take out your city council members, replace them with squishy-looking, rhino-looking, real Democrats that are acting like that are claiming to be Republicans, and their whole goal is to defund the police.
00:51:24.000As Christians, we are supposed to embrace mercy.
00:51:27.000We are supposed to forgive those who persecute us.
00:51:31.000And the death penalty seems greatly in tension with that.
00:51:34.000But it also says in the Bible that those who hold power, they wield the sword for a purpose, and they should wield it justly.
00:51:44.000When Jesus meets with the Roman soldiers and he tells them what to do, he doesn't say, don't enforce the law, don't kill people.
00:51:52.000He says, don't oppress people, don't extort them, be content with your wages.
00:51:57.000And what we have to recognize is that there is a difference, that when the state, when the government enforces its laws, it is not acting as an individual seeking vengeance.
00:52:07.000It is not acting, it is not enacting revenge.
00:52:10.000It is enacting justice in the place of a king, essentially.
00:52:17.000And one aspect of justice may actually have to be to use lethal force on someone who is a sufficiently deadly or destructive cancer on a society.
00:52:29.000And I think we can recognize that in the case we're all thinking about right now, that if we have something like political assassinations in our country, people who would destroy our country by destroying people they disagree with, it's completely fair for the government to look at that and say, that act is so heinous, so unacceptable, that anyone who commits it will be torn out of our society like the cancer that they are before they infect the rest of it, before they destroy our society.
00:52:59.000And I think that's a completely just take on the most heinous crimes in our society.
00:53:05.000It is, and Charlie himself famously, I'll paraphrase it, but Charlie said, and I post this every once in a while, that the death penalty isn't pro-death.
00:53:16.000It's actually pro-life because it values the life of the victim.
00:53:24.000And it shows that that person's life had value.
00:53:27.000It shows that society believes that that person's life had value.
00:53:31.000And I personally believe that Charlie Kirk's life had value.
00:53:35.000And I also believe that there is a debt that needs to be paid not just for Charlie, but for Erica, for the children, for every single minute and moment that was torn and stolen from them their entire lives, who are not going to be having their dad home for this Christmas or any Christmas ever again.
00:53:57.000And to Blake's point as well, when you commit a political assassination and kill someone who is in the conduct of participating in free speech and free political dialogue, the bedrock of our society, then you have attacked our society itself.
00:54:14.000And as a society, we have a governmental administrative duty to correct that cancer and tear it out.
00:54:37.000So the question you have to ask yourself: why are there tens of millions, if not hundreds of millions of dollars being spent worldwide to try to promote the elimination or eradication of the death penalty?
00:54:51.000The quick answer is, is that the left wins when they know chaos can ensue when the death penalty no longer exists.
00:55:00.000Just like was said by Blake, just like was upped here by Jack.
00:55:05.000If we allow the most heinous crime to occur in this country with absolutely no penalty up until death, the left wins and they will sow chaos across the scene.
00:55:18.000So now you look at this and you go, and I want, I think about this.
00:55:23.000Why would anybody insert themselves to try to eliminate the possibility of the death penalty in any circumstance where you have that heinous crime?
00:55:33.000It's just a really interesting thing to look at in the future because I think this country is going to be under assault, particularly in the next few years here, where they're going to try to block that from happening.
00:55:45.000We're going to see that because that's a muscle that the left is trying to flex to sow more division and chaos across America.
00:55:53.000Yeah, and I'll just add, at the memorial, you obviously saw Erica portrayed as a forgiving saint, which is what you see in Romans 12, where God says, vengeance is mine, says the Lord.
00:56:07.000But then in Romans 13, after Erica got off stage and Trump came on stage, you saw Trump playing out Romans 13, which is, I will appoint ministers of justice.
00:56:18.000And so it's really hard, and even Charlie kind of went back and forth on it.
00:56:39.000But it's an important difference, actually.
00:56:41.000I think if you look at traditional Sharia countries, for example, they'll actually, what punishment you want is placed on the victim or the family of the victim, and they have that choice.
00:56:53.000And I think it's actually an important difference that in Christian society, we do not foist that burden onto the victims of an offense where you force them to have to choose between mercy and justice.
00:57:07.000That is why we have the state wielding the power that it does.
00:57:11.000We should not ask Erica Kirk to decide what the penalty of her husband's assassin is.
00:57:15.000That is not just to her, and it's not just to our society.
00:57:19.000It is the role of the sovereign, the government, the state, to enact justice on behalf of the people.
00:58:00.000And I might want to put some stanchions around that, by the way.
00:58:05.000But that's the actual tent right there.
00:58:07.000And Blake and Mikey, they're sitting here, they're talking about this.
00:58:10.000They've been soldiering on, but they didn't watch this on video.
00:58:15.000They were there standing feet away, steps away, and they've still been here at work, fighting hard, fighting for the mission every single day.
00:58:25.000So I just wanted to raise them up for a second because they've been phenomenal.
00:58:36.000All the conspiracy theorists today will comment on your trans shirt.
00:58:55.000So I have sort of a simple question, and Charlie was all about solutions, so I have a solution to pitch.
00:59:02.000How can we really be truly America first if we're not putting our veterans first?
00:59:07.000Our children need real role models to look up to, and we don't need any more instances like happened at that Mormon Temple.
00:59:15.000That Iraq veteran could have been reached.
00:59:18.000So the solution that I'm proposing is a coalition between recruiters, Student America, Club of America, turning point, and hold those recruiters, hold colleges accountable that target veterans and sell them a lie for a degree that will get them nothing.
00:59:40.000I'm also not proud to be a WSU graduate and alumni because that college wasted the majority of my GI bill on a degree that got me nothing but 20 cents a dollar more an hour.
00:59:52.000If we can't reach every veteran through Christ, we can at least save them from themselves.
00:59:57.000Yeah, well, as I think the only veteran up here, you know, I'll just say, Tyler, what do you think?
01:00:10.000I'll tell you this: our veterans are being taken advantage of left and right, you know, starting with the government because we just do not do enough.
01:00:21.000And it's a back and forth teeter-totter between Republicans and Democrats.
01:00:27.000You know, not getting things done, not taking care of the hospital system, not making sure that they get the health care that they need to start with.
01:00:45.000We got to talk a lot more about it because the first thing that, and this is why I love the president's agenda, and this is why this is so important.
01:00:53.000And we got to talk about this more often, was putting veterans first was at the forefront of this last election.
01:00:59.000Because unfortunately, if we had not won this last election, right now we would be at war.
01:01:05.000It's like without question, we would be, you know, I speak a little bit of Russian.
01:02:15.000And by the way, a key part of that, a key part of that, I would add, and I'll just add, is that, Tyler, what turning point veterans could also do, you mentioned about helping them get into schools and obviously when there's issues with the schools, but also helping veterans make the transition from the military to the private sector because we should not have a single unemployed veteran or homeless veteran in this country.
01:02:41.000And I'm sick to death of us spending so much money on illegal aliens when there are veterans who need it first.
01:02:49.000And if I could caveat that, we don't need students deciding they're called to serve and going to serve, then having no plan for the rest of their life.
01:03:26.000We have to win and keep this country in good shape so we can protect ourselves and protect our veterans.
01:03:32.000I had a coworker at work tell me that what I'm wanting to do is potentially more dangerous than what Charlie was doing, and I just looked at him.
01:04:08.000No, Mark Kelly's such a wuss, he wouldn't show up here and debate Jack.
01:04:11.000No, I told you, because he got all mad at me because I was the one who broke the story that it turns out that his little seditious six rant was actually a violation of the Uniform Code of Military Justice.
01:04:24.000And because he's getting a military pension, his investigation has now been raised to the command level of the entire Department of War.
01:05:35.000Yeah, so a bit of context before I ask my question.
01:05:39.000My parents immigrated here legally from an Eastern European country known as Romania, and it was part of the Soviet Union, the Eastern Bloc.
01:05:51.000And they immigrated here for me and my sister to have a better life, right?
01:05:58.000And so when they were growing up, they had to deal with, because it was a socialist country, They had breadlines that were only open certain hours, and you had tickets.
01:06:16.000You had, if you even had a car, you would only be able to drive on certain days based on which group you had.
01:06:25.000My mom, who watches your show every day, and her sister, my aunt, considered cocoa powder to be like a luxury item equivalent to gold.
01:06:36.000Meanwhile, the president, Nikolaio Czauszewsko, at the time, who was arguably worse than Joseph Stalin, was having the heaviest building in the world and the second heaviest building superseded only by Buckingham Palace and had hundreds of billions of dollars to be built for him to live in.
01:06:56.000And so when I look at that, I've been in that building.
01:06:59.000Yeah, I mean, it's a great place to visit.
01:07:43.000So looking at that, and when I see socialing being not only advocated for, but also enacted in places like New York with Zoron, pay for me so I can give you free stuff, Mamdani.
01:07:52.000You know, I look at that and I think, oh my goodness, the American dream is under attack.
01:07:55.000I might not be able to live through it as someone who is Gen Z.
01:07:59.000And so I got to ask, what can we do as a country to ensure that the youngest generation of voters coming in now will be able to experience owning a home, having a family, and experiencing the American dream.
01:08:39.000We may not be able to afford a family one day or have kids or live out the American dream that our parents lived out.
01:08:45.000So we're asking ourselves, what are we going to do?
01:08:48.000And so we're turning to radical solutions, which is Zorhan Mamdani.
01:08:52.000And so Erica talked about this in a great speech recently where she said, the government is replacing husbands for women.
01:09:01.000And you saw that in New York where 80%, over 80% of women voters in New York City voted in massive numbers for Zorhan Mamdani.
01:09:11.000And so New York City is kind of like this petri dish of what our entire nation is going to be facing here in the next decade, which is rents out of control, not being able to afford a home, still paying off debt, credit card debt like crazy for young people.
01:09:28.000And then young women not wanting to get married, young men not also pushing off marriage until as far late as they possibly can.
01:09:37.000And so you're turning to radical solutions instead of turning to hard work.
01:09:42.000But at the same time, we talked about veterans.
01:09:44.000Young people are, we want to help veterans, but young people, at the same time, we're saying to ourselves, we want to kind of turn our stance on foreign policy.
01:09:55.000And we have a very different stance on foreign policy than what our older colleagues have.
01:10:02.000And we just are kind of sick of sending foreign aid to countries that don't necessarily need it.
01:10:09.000Because from the time we were born, there's been a conflict in the Middle East.
01:10:13.000From the time we were born, we've been seeing wars that the U.S. has been involved in.
01:10:26.000And we also want to see veterans being taken care of.
01:10:30.000But when we talked about America First and America only versus America First and not just America only, this is something that young people have a radical stance on because we're feeling it the most intimately.
01:10:42.000Like this is, these are massive problems for us.
01:11:14.000Like, he talks, he talks really, he's a smooth talker.
01:11:19.000And that's exactly what, unfortunately, most people want.
01:11:23.000They want to be told stuff, even if it's not true.
01:11:27.000And the fact of the matter is, is all commies are lying to you all the time.
01:11:33.000If there's a person that's lying to you, and you can tell your best friend this the next time they lie to you, is they're most likely a Marxist.
01:11:43.000I mean, this is basically what we're being taught in school.
01:11:46.000At our public universities, people are being taught to be Alinskyites, that you're supposed to be okay with the rules for radicals that these people are being taught.
01:11:56.000And you're supposed to just dumbly take it and bend over and take it and then be like, oh, but Mamdani looks okay, and he has a well-trimmed beard, and I'm sure he's not the worst, you know, member of the Islam faith that I've ever met.
01:12:11.000But the reality is this, is that the guy's a Marxist and he doesn't care about you as an individual.
01:12:17.000You know who cares about you as an individual?
01:12:19.000The guys who wrote the Constitution of the United States of America.
01:12:26.000And if we don't get serious about it, you're going to have smooth-talking Mamdanis pop up in every single city, and everyone's going to be like, holy crap, how did this happen?
01:12:36.000Like overnight, because they carbon copy and do the thing over and over again.
01:12:42.000Every person here, you got to get involved politically.
01:12:45.000You can't sit back and just be like, I'm going to let somebody else do it.
01:12:48.000You got to take out the guys that, and this is how Charlie Kirk came to be.
01:12:53.000I don't know if you know this story, guys.
01:12:55.000The story of Charlie Kirk is that the guys in Chicago felt so bad about not stopping Barack Obama from rising up that Charlie Kirk was born and guys in Chicago all got together and they supported a kid who was the most genius kid that had come around the block in 2012.
01:14:27.000And so if you know a young person, tell them to get involved with the turning point chapter or to start a turning point chapter because we need to carry this torch.
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01:17:01.000And that is something that terrifies people who refuse him.
01:18:23.000Obviously, like not in the stage of life where I'm married, having kids.
01:18:27.000And I go through this thought pattern of like, what would be the most effective way to use my time?
01:18:32.000Obviously, like you'd think working for a church, I feel like, oh, I'm like doing something for the Lord.
01:18:38.000But I just like I want to reach people.
01:18:40.000And so my thoughts, like, do I stand on a corner and like preach the gospel?
01:18:44.000Do I like try to get hired at Turning Point?
01:18:46.000Do I like, you know, I just, I guess I'm just asking, like, what in your advice would be like the most effective use of time for a young adult who's in a stage in between school and family?
01:18:58.000Well, I'll tell you from an activism standpoint, you've got two things that you can do that we provide at Turning Point that are really helpful.
01:19:06.000On the faith side, so TPU say faith, if your church is involved and all of that, that's great.
01:19:12.000I highly recommend it if that's your line, right?
01:19:16.000If that doesn't fit for you for whatever reason, at Turning Point Action, we can use your help a few hours a month, a few hours, really a year to get involved.
01:19:33.000If everybody just donated, you know, somewhere in the realm of two to three hours a month just to get involved politically, you can do that.
01:20:17.000But like, so you can plan that ahead, right?
01:20:20.000Like next October, come down to Arizona, help us win the governor's election here where you might not have that opportunity in Washington or somewhere else, right?
01:20:27.000So that's how the left works and they operate and get people involved, but you can contribute back and feel like you're involved with this bigger, you know, I mean, you can get this feeling, you know, every election of being around good people that you agree with.
01:21:21.000Yeah, I mean, well, to be honest, I actually just put in my two weeks because of that feeling of like, I need to close the door on this and just open myself up for what else God has for me.
01:21:30.000So I'm really in a place of just like, wait, wait.
01:22:36.000First, I want to thank all the people behind me who allowed me to come up to ask this question.
01:22:41.000I am a first-generation state-side-born Puerto Rican.
01:22:45.000I was very proud to hear the gratitude to the Latino community for getting Trump in.
01:22:51.000However, my heart grieves for the disconnect found within the black and brown Christian conservative churches and communities.
01:23:00.000As our country continues to grow with greater black and brown Christian people who do like to have big families and are very family oriented, I believe that there is a significant harvest.
01:23:13.000I was excited to find the Turning Point USA Rise Table, but from what I see, I'm wondering if there's more that can be done to reach these Christian conservative communities because there is such a political disconnect between conservative, being conservative politically and their religion and being a Christian.
01:23:57.000You're saying there's an opportunity that you see with black and brown Christian community to reach them more to become to vote conservative?
01:24:37.000we're pouring more resources into that um i would just say that you know we're seeing gains there especially with young uh i would say the divide is about like 40 45 years old 50 years old of african-american men hispanic men um that are not as linked to kind of the civil rights era of the past and they're way more open to conservative ideas Donald Trump has totally opened the door, honestly, for conservatism with those communities because he just comes at it from such a brash new approach.
01:25:06.000Listen, it's going to be an uphill battle, but like, you know, one of the political facts that people don't appreciate is that if you got 25, 30% of the black vote in this country, not to mention the Hispanic vote, you would basically derail the national political prospects of the Democrat Party forever, right?
01:25:45.000They tend to, here's what I would just say as well.
01:25:47.000They love immigration policy that is strong, that is masculine, that is going to protect the homeland.
01:25:53.000They don't want to live in a crime-ridden society either.
01:25:55.000They don't want to live in a crowded society.
01:25:57.000They don't want to live in a dirty society.
01:25:58.000So the Hispanics love a good immigration message, so I just want to challenge anybody out there that thinks they're going to win over Hispanics with an amnesty appeal.
01:26:19.000We have so many young men that have written in that are from all sorts of communities, but also the Hispanic community and the black community, that they hadn't been to church in a really long time with their families that said, hey, they wrote in.
01:26:42.000You don't have to be good at going to church, but encourage those men, in particular, young men who have never been, who might feel weird because they've never been, they never were maybe even raised in a home where they had that opportunity to go to church.
01:26:55.000If you're a friend that has been to church and you see a friend that hasn't been, bring that guy to church.
01:27:04.000But what I'm saying, we're talking about young men.
01:27:06.000This is the moment that, this is the moment in history right now where we could make massive gains and showing people, hey, this is the right track to building a family and get politically on.
01:29:31.000We have a lot of pockets in America because of rampant immigration issues, right?
01:29:36.000Whether it's illegal or legal in America that are never going to hear or understand the topics that are at hand if you don't speak to them and meet them at least halfway.
01:30:19.000We have Mary Patolla in Congress now, and that should not be the case.
01:30:24.000We have Lisa Murkowski, who is basically a Democrat.
01:30:28.000And if we have three senators, two senators that are making the difference, the turning the tide in the Senate right now, I feel like there should be way more investments and resources into Alaska and considering it more as a swing state.
01:30:45.000That way we can make sure it is red for a long time.
01:32:08.000We're working on it, but they worded it really weird where it's like, vote no if yes and vote yes if no, and so it didn't pass and now it's gonna.
01:32:17.000It's horrible and Lisa Murkowski is a total Democrat.
01:32:21.000It's insane that you have to deal with that, but that's the only way she survives now is you get people who act like Democrats and ranked choice voting and that's it.
01:32:42.000We will, we will hold on and we have right here the original four guys on Thought Crime Live that we used to do the show every Thursday with our good friend and he's out here right now because he's on assignment.
01:32:59.000He's on permanent assignment with God.
01:33:02.000I like to think that Charlie's got the nine to noon hour and then Rush, of course, is noon to three up there in Heaven every single day, and we're gonna continue this fight, we're gonna continue this show, we're gonna continue all of this in Charlie's honor and I hope that all of you will continue to do what Charlie would say at the end of every single Thought crime episode.
01:33:31.000Go out there and commit thought crime.