The Charlie Kirk Show - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 113 ft. Raw Egg Nationalist — Suicidal Penguins? The Death of Masculinity? Obama Loves Pit Bulls?

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00:01:09.000 All right, folks, welcome to today's edition of Thought Crime Thursday.

00:01:14.000 As you can see, I'm here in my tuxedo.

00:01:17.000 No, I am not auditioning for on top of a wedding cake.

00:01:23.000 Are you going to be a fan of the family?

00:01:23.000 No, I am not auditioning for Goldfinger.

00:01:28.000 No, I'm going to the premiere of Melania, which is going to be across town here at the Trump Kennedy Center in about an hour and a half.

00:01:38.000 So I'm dressed up.

00:01:39.000 So this is my attire.

00:01:42.000 But as we know, no suits.

00:01:44.000 So you got my suspenders.

00:01:46.000 What's up?

00:01:46.000 We got Blake.

00:01:48.000 What's up, Blake?

00:01:49.000 Yeah.

00:01:49.000 Howdy, Jack.

00:01:50.000 Who's there with you?

00:01:52.000 And we've got, well, hold on.

00:01:53.000 We have Tyler Boyer.

00:01:55.000 And I wanted to also introduce to the audience, I think you may know this guy.

00:02:00.000 He's someone who has been out there on the interweb, someone who's also, by the way, was somebody who Charlie Kirk was a big fan of and was always sending me his stuff.

00:02:12.000 So I wanted to get him on the show to try and get him on.

00:02:15.000 His name is Dr. Charles Cornish Dale, but you may know him better by his online moniker as the Raw Egg Nationalist.

00:02:24.000 What's up, Brad?

00:02:25.000 It's absolutely a pleasure and a privilege to be here, Jack.

00:02:28.000 So I wanted to get, let's get into this because your new book is actually going to be our first thought crime.

00:02:35.000 Tell us about your new book and what is the thesis.

00:02:38.000 So I've got a new book just come out with Skyhorse called The Last Men, Liberalism and the Death of Masculinity.

00:02:45.000 And it's about testosterone.

00:02:47.000 So it's a follow-on from the Tucker Carlson documentary that I was in in 2022.

00:02:53.000 So I was in a documentary called The End of Men about testosterone decline, about this civilizational decline in testosterone that we're seeing and its implications for men and also these broader implications actually for politics, for the political system.

00:03:11.000 You know, what happens when you have a society that's full of men who have basically been drained of their masculine essence.

00:03:20.000 So castrated, castrated.

00:03:22.000 So what you're saying is it's sort of like a reverse of what so many people think is going on in society.

00:03:29.000 See, we think that liberalism, so some people say, well, liberalism is on the rise and that's why you're seeing these new diets, veganism, et cetera.

00:03:36.000 You're saying it's the opposite.

00:03:38.000 It's those diets and those, not just diets, but chemicals.

00:03:42.000 It's kind of Maha, actually.

00:03:44.000 But it's the synthesis of Maha and MAGA, really, like Trumpism.

00:03:49.000 Yeah, well, I think for too long people have considered, before Maha in particular, people have kind of failed to consider the political implications of ill health.

00:04:00.000 And they've really failed to consider the political implications of testosterone decline.

00:04:04.000 So testosterone, various different, you know, like gold standard studies have showed that actually testosterone is declining in the US and actually throughout the rest of the Western world at a rate of something like 1% a year year on year.

00:04:16.000 Now that might not sound like very much, but that's a quarter in 25 years.

00:04:20.000 It's 50% in half a century.

00:04:23.000 And yes, I mean, I mean, broadly speaking, I think that a lot of these trends that we're seeing today are actually downstream of this biological, this profound biological change that's happening to men and has been happening for decades.

00:04:41.000 Among other things, you could talk about the rise of leftism.

00:04:46.000 You could talk about political polarization.

00:04:48.000 That's something I talk about in the book.

00:04:50.000 Actually, as men lose their testosterone, I think they're more likely to become leftists.

00:04:56.000 They're more likely to become leftists.

00:04:58.000 So, Blake, you've obviously heard about this.

00:05:04.000 What is your sense of this?

00:05:05.000 Is this something that actually bears out?

00:05:07.000 Well, it's funny because I'm of two minds.

00:05:10.000 It does seem, obviously, we have, if you were to just look at society-wide, I feel like we might have reached peak soy boy or something actually in the past.

00:05:20.000 Like, it felt like 10 years ago, there was that hipster, hipster aesthetic, the Redditor aesthetic.

00:05:27.000 That peaked.

00:05:28.000 Now, when I think about, when I think about young people, I always think about the like the lifting cult guys.

00:05:36.000 And it's funny because it feels like so omnipresent that you'd assume it's all over the place.

00:05:42.000 But like 50 years ago, nobody was going out and lifting weights three times a week to be strong.

00:05:49.000 Nobody was doing a lot of this really ambitious fitness stuff.

00:05:52.000 But it does seem like testosterone was higher.

00:05:55.000 I guess since we have the egg stir here, first of all, I guess a lot of people are going to ask why raw eggs specifically, but is it do you think it is primarily an environmental thing, or do you think it's a lifestyle thing?

00:06:10.000 Or basically, can we act, can an individual fix the testosterone crisis?

00:06:14.000 Or is this a gigantic scientific public health matter?

00:06:19.000 Okay, so on the raw egg thing, then, yeah, so raw eggs, raw egg nationalism became a thing really in 2020.

00:06:26.000 It's the reason I started posting on Twitter.

00:06:29.000 There was this hashtag going around raw egg nationalism, and it was about people knocking back large quantities, slonking is the technical term, actually, slonking large quantities of raw eggs.

00:06:39.000 Do you have a slonking record?

00:06:40.000 What is your slonking record?

00:06:43.000 I think the most I ever slonked in a day was 28.

00:06:47.000 So 28 raw eggs in a day.

00:06:52.000 Is cooking them bad?

00:06:54.000 Because this just kind of sounds gross to me.

00:06:57.000 So I didn't take them all at once.

00:06:59.000 Yeah, I mean, like.

00:07:01.000 Hark Hogan would.

00:07:02.000 Hark Hogan would, but I mean, he was a different beast.

00:07:05.000 You can't look like, I would never tell somebody, don't eat cooked eggs.

00:07:09.000 Like, if you can't stomach raw eggs, then by all means, scrambled, whatever, cooked, fried, boiled.

00:07:18.000 But the raw thing is largely to do with, A, the quantity that you can consume at any one time.

00:07:24.000 So, like, you may have seen Cool Hand Luke, the Paul Newman film, right?

00:07:28.000 Where he's challenged to eat 50 boiled eggs.

00:07:30.000 It nearly kills him.

00:07:31.000 But you can very easily knock back 50 raw eggs, you know, just drinking them.

00:07:37.000 But then there's also the issue of preservation of the nutrients.

00:07:42.000 So you get certain nutritional benefits when you consume eggs raw rather than cooked.

00:07:48.000 It preserves the cholesterol in particular.

00:07:52.000 And now we've been told for 100 years, you know, that cholesterol is very bad for you.

00:07:56.000 But actually the opposite is the case.

00:07:58.000 And thankfully now, RFK Jr. has upended the food pyramid and restored cholesterol-rich foods to their rightful place as the kind of building blocks of the American diet.

00:08:11.000 But I think this is an individual and a societal problem.

00:08:16.000 So there are definitely things that you can do as an individual to improve your hormonal health.

00:08:20.000 Absolutely.

00:08:21.000 And I regularly give advice on my Twitter account, on my Substack, and in this book.

00:08:27.000 You know, there are simple things that you can do.

00:08:29.000 Lifting weights, cleaning up your diet, learning how to cook, avoiding processed foods, sleeping better.

00:08:35.000 Sleep is a big one, actually, that people really don't pay enough attention to.

00:08:40.000 So there was a study that showed, for example, that if you double your sleep as a man from four hours to eight hours a night, you can double your testosterone levels because the vast majority of testosterone is produced at night during sleep.

00:08:54.000 So if you don't sleep properly, you're not going to produce enough.

00:08:57.000 But then there are these big, I think, societal problems, things like pesticides, herbicides in the food and water, PFAS chemicals, plastic chemicals, microplastics, environmental pollution, all that kind of stuff.

00:09:15.000 And really, you know, that's something that government needs to be involved in.

00:09:18.000 And that's why we need Make America Healthy Again.

00:09:21.000 That's why we need this grand health campaign that centers on cleaning up the environment, educating people, improving herbicide and pesticide regulations, all this kind of stuff.

00:09:34.000 So that's the thought crime.

00:09:36.000 I love this idea because you're combining basically Maha with everything that we're seeing politically that's going on.

00:09:45.000 The name of the book is The Last Man.

00:09:48.000 Why is that the name of the book if this is the subject?

00:09:51.000 Yes, well, so the book is actually kind of based, the book is kind of based on Fukuyama's end of history thesis.

00:10:00.000 It's a kind of quite a bold reappraisal or restating of what Francis Fukuyama is saying happens at the end of history, you know, the triumph of liberal democracy over all other alternative political systems.

00:10:16.000 Fukuyama talks about the triumph of liberal democracy as the victory of a certain kind of thymos.

00:10:24.000 And thymos is this ancient Greek word that was used to describe spiritedness, the things that animate man, that give him motivation, that make him patriotic and courageous, etc.

00:10:36.000 Well, what Fukuyama says is that actually the triumph of liberal democracy is the victory of one kind of thymos over another.

00:10:46.000 And so, you know, in a liberal democracy, you can be recognized as equal with your fellow man, but you can't be recognized as better, which is a fundamental aspect, actually, of being a man, of masculinity, of thymos.

00:10:59.000 Well, what does that actually mean?

00:11:02.000 It means that we've created a political system that is potentially at odds with certain aspects of the male character and psyche, the drives, the things that push men to succeed.

00:11:16.000 So not only are we facing this kind of biological crisis where we're being pumped full of pesticides and herbicides and we're eating bad diets and we're not sleeping and we're exposed to blue light all the time and chronic stress, but also actually we've created a political system that is hostile to masculinity.

00:11:33.000 And so The Last Men is this idea that actually we've arrived at the end of history and we've created a creature, a type of man, who is not fully a man.

00:11:44.000 And so I post these quite quite big kind of filibusters.

00:11:47.000 Wait, wait, so what you've done here, I think I figured this out.

00:11:51.000 You've explained DNT for mugshots.

00:11:53.000 Maybe I have.

00:11:55.000 This entire thesis is why we have why they all look that way.

00:11:59.000 Why they all have this.

00:12:02.000 It's diet, it's lack of testosterone.

00:12:04.000 But you're right, though.

00:12:06.000 It's kind of a spirit or a lack of spirit or a hateful spirit and a resentment.

00:12:11.000 So this is why you get, and you and I, you were on my show earlier today, and we were talking about the fact that they, so Tyler, did you see how they, I think I saw you tweeting about this, how they used AI on the Alex Predi photo to like kind of like make him look hot.

00:12:28.000 Yeah, insane, totally insane.

00:12:31.000 It was funny because it was like, it was like he had slightly askew like eyes and hair, and then he had like a sickly pallor on his skin.

00:12:39.000 And so they had to tan him up, jazz him up.

00:12:41.000 Yeah, it was a very strange look.

00:12:42.000 It looked like legitimately like one of those really obvious face tunes that they did.

00:12:48.000 They just put him through it.

00:12:50.000 And that ended up media outlets ran that photo.

00:12:53.000 Totally.

00:12:53.000 That's crazy.

00:12:53.000 No, it's the one they went with.

00:12:54.000 They rolled with.

00:12:55.000 Which you do wonder, is this sustainable?

00:12:58.000 Because as people joked, it was like people would call him a martyr, but they still got the ick from his photo.

00:13:05.000 It does seem like the termination loop on this is it's just these people can't reproduce then.

00:13:12.000 And so they just disappear.

00:13:14.000 And then you rebalance back to something that's a little bit different.

00:13:16.000 Well, they reproduce.

00:13:18.000 But they reproduce by other means.

00:13:21.000 That's why they go after the kids. 1.00

00:13:22.000 That's why they do the grooming. 0.99

00:13:24.000 That's why they have all the stuff in the education.

00:13:26.000 So they reproduce by going after your children, basically, and taking them over mentally. 0.83

00:13:35.000 So, and this guy who, and we've been doing some reading on this, that, you know, he was this Alex Predi.

00:13:42.000 And you look at that first picture.

00:13:44.000 And actually, you know what?

00:13:46.000 Let's do it.

00:13:46.000 You know what?

00:13:47.000 Let's do it.

00:13:48.000 Dr. Tornish Dale, could you describe the diet and the lifestyle of the man you see in the original photo here?

00:13:56.000 Yeah, the man I see in the original photo is he's a vegan, I would imagine, or certainly he's living on some kind of plant-based diet.

00:14:07.000 He doesn't get much sun.

00:14:08.000 I don't think he exercises.

00:14:10.000 He looks like he's skinny fat.

00:14:12.000 So, you know, he's got, he's probably got man boobs. 0.84

00:14:15.000 He's probably got low testosterone.

00:14:18.000 Or rather, I should be talking the past tense, shouldn't I?

00:14:20.000 Actually, he probably had low testosterone.

00:14:26.000 Yeah, he's not, he's not a model of the jawline.

00:14:29.000 They've changed his jawline.

00:14:31.000 They have, yeah.

00:14:32.000 I mean, they've chatified him.

00:14:34.000 They've tried to make him into a giga chat.

00:14:37.000 I mean, it's, it's funny because, you know, the high mark, I suppose, for this is Luigi Mangioni, right?

00:14:42.000 Oh, wait, wait.

00:14:43.000 And mouth breathing.

00:14:45.000 Mouth breathing, yeah.

00:14:46.000 He's an habitual mouth breather, too, I would imagine.

00:14:49.000 He probably has some unpleasant habits.

00:14:52.000 Don't really particularly want to look at his internet.

00:14:55.000 Why is it that mouth breathing leads to that very tight neck that way?

00:15:00.000 Well, what it does is if you, let's say you have an undiagnosed allergy as a child, if you habitually mouth breathe, as your skull is developing, your mouth is open, it pushes your jaw back, it recesses the jaw so that actually what happens is it looks like you don't have a chin, right?

00:15:18.000 I mean, you do have a chin, it's just in the wrong position.

00:15:21.000 It's in your neck.

00:15:22.000 That's really, this is, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's absolutely.

00:15:25.000 How bad are we talking?

00:15:26.000 That's insane.

00:15:28.000 Allergies make you have a messed up head. 0.99

00:15:32.000 They can do, yes.

00:15:33.000 What are you saying if they're perpetual?

00:15:35.000 If you're like a child and you have like an undiagnosed pet allergy and you're constantly breathing through your mouth for like 10 years as you develop from a six-year-old to a 16-year-old, then yeah, your skull will not develop properly, your jaw will become recessed and you'll basically have no chin.

00:15:53.000 I mean, you do have a chin, but it's in your neck and it's back.

00:15:56.000 That is why people have that's why people are chinless. 0.96

00:15:59.000 That's why if you see a chinless man, he probably is a habitual mouth breather.

00:16:03.000 They say the same thing about eating hard foods when you're yeah, there's that too.

00:16:09.000 So, I mean, you know, there's a lot of anthropological evidence.

00:16:12.000 You know, in traditional societies, diet is much harder.

00:16:16.000 People chew more.

00:16:18.000 You know, and in traditional societies as well, people use their mouths to do leather work and make rope and stuff.

00:16:25.000 So people use their jaws and their facial muscles much more.

00:16:29.000 We have a very soft diet on the whole.

00:16:31.000 I mean, if you eat a processed food diet, you're basically just swallowing your food without even chewing it.

00:16:37.000 You know, it just kind of dissolves in your mouth and passes down your gullet.

00:16:41.000 And yes, that means that the muscles of your face don't develop and the structure of your face doesn't develop as a result.

00:16:49.000 This is amazing.

00:16:51.000 I could do this topic all day.

00:16:53.000 So the book is The Last Men, Dr. Charles Cornish Dale: The Synthesis of Maha and MAGA, which I just think is really cool.

00:17:05.000 And Ova, I guess.

00:17:10.000 I think our Eggmeister will be very good on this topic, which is a very strange one.

00:17:16.000 And I think people watching are going to be a little baffled by it.

00:17:18.000 But we need to talk about the penguins, Jack.

00:17:21.000 The penguins.

00:17:23.000 And so this one, I think I've had to explain this four or five separate times.

00:17:28.000 He kind of just explained it with the Thumos. 0.97

00:17:30.000 Yeah, I guess I suppose he did.

00:17:32.000 But this all happened kind of out of nowhere.

00:17:36.000 I believe it began, well, it began a decade ago.

00:17:39.000 But then earlier this week, we had the Trump administration, the White House, actually, they put out a meme, as it were.

00:17:48.000 Let's put up 480. 0.52

00:17:50.000 And it basically says, like, embrace the penguin.

00:17:52.000 I can't see the text here, but he just posted this image.

00:17:55.000 And it shows the Greenland flag.

00:17:56.000 So everyone was saying, oh, stupid, dumb-face Mr. Trump thought that there are penguins on the North Pole.

00:18:03.000 But it is not that.

00:18:04.000 It's actually not about the North Pole.

00:18:07.000 It's about what the penguin represents.

00:18:10.000 And we had an additional one, the Department of War, put out their own image saying to embrace the penguin.

00:18:15.000 That's 478.

00:18:16.000 Throw that up there. 0.97

00:18:17.000 So everyone's posting about penguins wandering off towards the mountains.

00:18:23.000 And the weird thing is, everyone's a fan of that penguin because it is committing suicide.

00:18:30.000 Yeah, that's literally what it is.

00:18:32.000 So we have this clip.

00:18:34.000 Is it still clip 487?

00:18:36.000 Let's play that.

00:18:37.000 It's from another.

00:18:38.000 That's not why we like the penguin.

00:18:41.000 That's not why.

00:18:42.000 Let's let people judge for themselves.

00:18:43.000 So let's play the clip from the Werner Herzog documentary.

00:18:47.000 Blake always does this, by the way.

00:18:49.000 By the way, Ren.

00:18:50.000 He tells people what he thinks is the only reason that something's going on.

00:18:50.000 He always does this.

00:18:56.000 These penguins are all heading to the open border to the right.

00:19:04.000 But one of them caught our eye, the one in the center.

00:19:10.000 He would neither go towards the feeding grounds at the edge of the ice, nor return to the colony.

00:19:19.000 Shortly afterwards, we saw him heading straight towards the mountains, some 70 kilometers away.

00:19:28.000 Dr. Ainley explained that even if he caught him and brought him back to the colony, he would immediately head right back for the mountains.

00:19:41.000 But why?

00:19:53.000 One of these disoriented or deranged penguins showed up at the New Harbor diving camp, already some 80 kilometers away from where it should be.

00:20:09.000 The rules for the humans are do not disturb or hold up the penguin.

00:20:14.000 Stand still and let him go on his way.

00:20:21.000 And here he's heading off into the interior of the vast continent.

00:20:27.000 With 5,000 kilometers ahead of him, he's heading towards certain death.

00:20:36.000 I could listen to Werner Herzog talk, narrate anything all day.

00:20:40.000 He is headed towards certain death.

00:20:43.000 No, but why?

00:20:44.000 This is just another more propaganda to get people away from the ice walls.

00:20:50.000 Don't go that direction.

00:20:52.000 Oh, oh, you think that's what this is about?

00:20:54.000 Don't go towards the ice walls.

00:20:55.000 No, I'm too.

00:20:56.000 No, we should do that.

00:20:57.000 We should do that.

00:20:57.000 Tyler's the first person who makes the reference to the ice walls, Tyler.

00:21:02.000 What's behind the ice walls?

00:21:03.000 I don't know what's behind the ice walls.

00:21:05.000 What do you mean you don't know what's behind the ice walls?

00:21:07.000 We don't know.

00:21:07.000 They don't tell you.

00:21:08.000 You don't know.

00:21:10.000 It's certain death.

00:21:11.000 Obviously.

00:21:13.000 We know what's behind the ice walls.

00:21:16.000 Agartha.

00:21:17.000 Home.

00:21:19.000 You're definitely going to have to explain to other people what Agartha is.

00:21:21.000 But no, it is true.

00:21:22.000 Like, there is a funny thing.

00:21:24.000 Like, I know you guys are joking about it.

00:21:25.000 I have no idea what that is.

00:21:27.000 The penguin basically is a meme because people are saying embrace the penguin's suicidal surge into the unknown.

00:21:34.000 No, no, no.

00:21:35.000 It's not what they're saying.

00:21:36.000 It's not suicide.

00:21:37.000 They're not saying that.

00:21:38.000 No.

00:21:39.000 So there are these, there are like redditors I saw who were saying like, oh yeah, the penguin represents the kind of deranged nihilism of capitalism where we're all just heading towards inevitable doom.

00:21:52.000 No, it's not that.

00:21:55.000 Oswald Spengler writes about this.

00:21:57.000 It's the Faustian spirit.

00:22:00.000 The penguin embodies the Faustian spirit, the will, the desire to know, the desire to overcome, the desire to transcend and to achieve the transcendental, even at the cost of death.

00:22:13.000 It's the great impulse that has motivated Western society, Western civilization, and brought it to greatness.

00:22:20.000 It's what built the Gothic cathedral.

00:22:22.000 It's what resulted in calculus.

00:22:25.000 It's what drove us to the moon and hopefully will drive us beyond.

00:22:31.000 This penguin is experiencing this profound drive, the Faustian spirit, and he's prepared to die.

00:22:41.000 The way that people have said this for years, the common phrase, the mountains beckon us.

00:22:47.000 The mountains are beckoning us.

00:22:48.000 He feels the call of the mountains.

00:22:51.000 He must go and see what is on the other side.

00:22:55.000 He must climb the mountain.

00:22:57.000 He must achieve greater.

00:22:59.000 That's why the penguin will not stop.

00:23:02.000 Because as we all know, outside of death, all failure is psychological.

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00:24:09.000 Man, you're making it sound like we should just make the national, we should just change the national seal and have the suicide penguin as the official bird of the United States.

00:24:17.000 You know, it's a suicidal penguin.

00:24:18.000 It could be because you've never climbed the mountain, Blake.

00:24:21.000 You don't know what's over there.

00:24:22.000 There could be penguin utopia on the other side.

00:24:25.000 He's in Agatha right now.

00:24:26.000 He's in Agartha right now.

00:24:28.000 Yeah, I mean, I would say we could easily make a penguin our national bird and put it on the seal.

00:24:33.000 If we annex Antarctica, I'm going to keep flogging that hobby horse.

00:24:38.000 That's how you square the Greenland circle.

00:24:39.000 We should just seize Antarctica.

00:24:41.000 Tyler, Tyler, what's your take on the penguin?

00:24:44.000 You know, I kind of, I think the penguin is just having a rough week.

00:24:48.000 And, you know.

00:24:52.000 Mrs. Penguin told him he's been drinking too much.

00:24:54.000 We're not even going to say why.

00:24:56.000 We're not even going to say what causes.

00:24:58.000 He's slonking too much.

00:24:59.000 We're not even going to say why.

00:25:00.000 We're not going to talk about the garbage he forgot to take out or, you know, the, you know, the laundry he was supposed to pick up right away or, you know, whatever it is.

00:25:13.000 Tyler, this sounds awfully personal.

00:25:15.000 No, no.

00:25:16.000 It just.

00:25:18.000 Wait, you know, speaking of the person.

00:25:19.000 Nobody's ever been in that position.

00:25:20.000 It's very specific and personal.

00:25:21.000 Listen, there's just sometimes a male penguin just needs to run towards the mountains, right?

00:25:26.000 And just well, you mentioned the schlonking. 0.97

00:25:29.000 I think there's a schlonking connection to me. 0.96

00:25:31.000 I'm thinking back to fourth grade science and emperor penguins.

00:25:34.000 I don't know if other penguins do it, but definitely the emperors, they sit on the eggs, right?

00:25:38.000 They kind of just squat on those eggs to keep them warm.

00:25:40.000 Yeah, they have a huge.

00:25:41.000 Yeah, yeah, that's in March of the Penguins, right?

00:25:44.000 The one has to sit there and the others go out to get food, I think.

00:25:47.000 Yeah, so you can't schlonk their eggs and there's no other eggs.

00:25:50.000 I have a problem with that.

00:25:52.000 Maybe that's why they went to the bath.

00:25:54.000 If you sit on the egg constantly, but you can't schlonk the egg, do you go that you have to flee to Agartha, as it were?

00:26:02.000 Yeah, I'm pro-penguin.

00:26:04.000 I'm pro-Penguin.

00:26:05.000 Me too.

00:26:06.000 Prature Angelo says, Mrs. Penguin found those text messages on his ice phone.

00:26:10.000 On his ice phone.

00:26:11.000 Oh, his ice phone.

00:26:13.000 Very few.

00:26:15.000 I like the idea of, you know, again, I think that there is real need, especially when you're born into a community.

00:26:23.000 You spend in a community.

00:26:24.000 I think there's probably just a certain percentage of people who have to break away from that.

00:26:30.000 And that includes penguins, too.

00:26:32.000 Penguins, there's just a certain percentage of penguins who have to just break out and just get away.

00:26:37.000 And they don't have Screamo music.

00:26:40.000 And, you know, I don't know.

00:26:43.000 Wait, you listen to Screamo music?

00:26:45.000 And ESPN3 to lean into.

00:26:48.000 You listen to Screamo music?

00:26:49.000 I'm just saying that just familiar with Screamo music.

00:26:52.000 That just doesn't exist for penguins.

00:26:54.000 So they got to just run towards the mountains.

00:26:57.000 But that is the spirit.

00:26:58.000 That is the Western spirit.

00:26:59.000 That's the spirit that's the spirit of why Turning Point USA was founded.

00:27:04.000 The spirit that you can do more.

00:27:06.000 The spirit that you can do something.

00:27:08.000 You don't just have to be, you don't just have to be a penguin who's in the herd, who's in the flock.

00:27:13.000 You can go and do something different.

00:27:16.000 Turning penguin US Antarctica?

00:27:20.000 No, no, no.

00:27:21.000 Blake, Blake, Turning Point Antarctica.

00:27:24.000 Turning point Agatha.

00:27:25.000 Turning point Agartha, turning point McMurdo.

00:27:29.000 Turning point Agartha has been, actually, has been actually operating for some time now.

00:27:34.000 Oh, it has.

00:27:35.000 Okay.

00:27:36.000 Tyler, not wait, dude, we're live.

00:27:38.000 We can't.

00:27:38.000 Yeah, don't tell them.

00:27:39.000 Don't tell them.

00:27:41.000 We must protect your energy crystals at all costs.

00:27:48.000 Oh, man, we're in big trouble now.

00:27:50.000 So, but the one thing that I wanted to get into as well, which kind of goes back to Alex Predi is Obama.

00:27:59.000 Did you guys see this Obama statement that he put out, like in the wake of all this, where he's talking about, oh, we have to support our neighbors and what's going on in Minneapolis?

00:28:09.000 You guys see this thing?

00:28:10.000 Yeah, I saw it only because you sent it to me because, Pozo, I don't follow Barack Obama and actively hang on every word that he says, but I understand some people are a little different.

00:28:21.000 Obama, we do do a show here, you know, and he's kind of like the leader of the opposition, but you know, whatever.

00:28:28.000 So, so he had this link that he posted up, and he's like, here's resources that we can use to, you know, to support our neighbors.

00:28:40.000 And it's weird because I guess neighbor is like the new comrade, the new Tovarish, right, Tyler?

00:28:44.000 Tovarish? 0.96

00:28:46.000 To that, they don't even refer to illegal aliens because they realize that illegal aliens and undocumented, it all just got too wonky and too silly.

00:28:58.000 So now they're just saying neighbors, which is the weirdest thing.

00:29:01.000 It's very communist.

00:29:02.000 But then here's what's crazy, though.

00:29:04.000 So it links to a Vox article where it says, how to help the resistance to ICE in Minnesota and beyond.

00:29:13.000 And you scroll down and it's got all sorts of wild stuff.

00:29:17.000 Yeah, it's got the normal like donate to legal funds and stand with Minnesota, which by the way, I'm pretty sure is very similar to the bail fund that Michelle Obama, or excuse me, Kamala Harris shared back in 2020.

00:29:32.000 But then if you scroll down, you keep going down, This is the weirdest one.

00:29:39.000 It says, there are other ways to volunteer.

00:29:43.000 And my Pitbull is family has been helping vulnerable families take care of their pets, including when an owner is detained by ICE.

00:29:55.000 And so I clicked on it.

00:29:56.000 I said, my Pitbull is family.

00:29:57.000 What is this?

00:29:58.000 And it says, let's lick discrimination. 0.87

00:30:02.000 Let's bite discrimination. 1.00

00:30:03.000 Let's face off.

00:30:04.000 Let's get discrimination.

00:30:05.000 Volunteer with us.

00:30:06.000 My pit bull is family.

00:30:10.000 What's going on with the pit bulls?

00:30:11.000 And why is it?

00:30:13.000 I'm sorry, what is going on?

00:30:14.000 Why are pit bulls considered the pet of, and you look at these people, they're all Antifa. 0.96

00:30:23.000 Why is Pitbull like the Antifa pet?

00:30:26.000 Well, there's well, there's this long history of people claiming that actually Pitbull is a euphemism for a certain demographic, right?

00:30:38.000 And so when people are talking.

00:30:39.000 I'm not familiar with that at all.

00:30:41.000 No?

00:30:43.000 Well, so they're saying, you know, like pit bulls are only 13% of the dog population, but they commit 60% of the savage attacks.

00:30:53.000 Is that true?

00:30:54.000 I think, well, I mean, yeah, pit bulls definitely commit a discrimination.

00:30:58.000 We kind of covered this before, right?

00:30:59.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:31:00.000 No.

00:31:01.000 Pit bulls are a giant, you know, killing machines out and about eating babies, which they're eating the babies other dogs won't eat, as they might say.

00:31:09.000 And in fact, I think your friend Cremieu just had a situation with this.

00:31:14.000 Yeah, Cremu, our friend down in Austin, he was attacked by a pit bull.

00:31:17.000 And we were just learning today, one of our staffers, they had a parent who was attacked by a pit bull in the past.

00:31:25.000 And I know our neighbor back in South Dakota, they had like a cousin who was killed by a pit bull.

00:31:32.000 Like, it's amazing how many of these you can find.

00:31:35.000 Yeah, killed.

00:31:36.000 It was sort of, you have less sympathy because they, I think, were running like a breeding operation or they had some like large number of dogs.

00:31:36.000 That was an act.

00:31:45.000 And, you know, despite having all those lovely dogs that wouldn't hurt a fly, the dogs consumed them, as it were.

00:31:52.000 Which is disgusting.

00:31:53.000 And there's, there's, um, there's a ton of statistics that people can go on this.

00:31:59.000 So it's America's most dangerous breeds.

00:32:02.000 And you can find the data.

00:32:04.000 It's very clear, actually.

00:32:07.000 Where is this from?

00:32:08.000 Dogsbite.org, where it says that breeds and types of dogs involved in fatal attacks on humans in the U.S. from 2005 to 2017.

00:32:17.000 It's got Government Pincher 6, Boxer 7, Labs, 9, Huskies, 13.

00:32:22.000 It's across the United States.

00:32:23.000 Fatal attacks.

00:32:24.000 American Bulldog, 15.

00:32:26.000 Mixed breed, 17.

00:32:27.000 German Shepherd, 20.

00:32:28.000 Rottweiler, 45.

00:32:29.000 Pitbull.

00:32:30.000 285 attacks from pit bulls.

00:32:36.000 And so this has to do, and this is where people get really upset on this because it has to do with how pit bulls were bred, which happened originally in England.

00:32:48.000 It did.

00:32:49.000 So I'm going to throw it to you to explain this to us.

00:32:52.000 How were pit bulls originally bred?

00:32:55.000 Well, as far as I know, I mean, they were bred as fighting dogs.

00:32:59.000 Fighting dogs.

00:32:59.000 They're bred to be.

00:33:00.000 I mean, I think they were literally thrown in pits.

00:33:04.000 So the name comes from them being thrown in fighting pits.

00:33:06.000 So you breed the most over generations, you know, constant cycles of breeding.

00:33:06.000 Yep.

00:33:13.000 You create the most aggressive dog that you can throw in a pit that will rip another dog to shreds for the enjoyment of a crowd.

00:33:20.000 You know, the most, it's blood sport.

00:33:22.000 You know, the word bull, that comes from the fact that they would actually have the dogs fighting actual cows, bulls.

00:33:29.000 Yeah.

00:33:30.000 Yeah, they wouldn't just fight other dogs and they would fight rats, but they would also fight bulls.

00:33:30.000 Yep.

00:33:34.000 They were savage enough if you threw enough of them in a pit with a bull to kill a bull, or certainly to savage it in a very, very nasty way.

00:33:43.000 So these are dogs that have been bred that are genetically predisposed.

00:33:50.000 Their whole existence is violence.

00:33:52.000 Well, I know, so this, of course, is the thought crime because every single time this happens, every single time we find a story like this, we get, I get flooded with comments.

00:34:03.000 I should look in the live chat right now where people are saying, where people are saying, oh, that's just a bad owner.

00:34:09.000 Oh, that's just a bad owner.

00:34:10.000 They don't know what they're doing.

00:34:12.000 They didn't train them right.

00:34:13.000 Bad owner makes it worse, but I mean, it's always in there waiting to get out.

00:34:18.000 And I mean, Cremio, I think he had the dog on his lap.

00:34:22.000 He was petting it.

00:34:23.000 We met him at the Natal Con down in Austin.

00:34:25.000 Yeah, we did.

00:34:26.000 He told me the same story.

00:34:26.000 He said, nice guy, petting the dog on his lap, and it just bites his face.

00:34:32.000 I mean, you know, what can you do about that other than wage a relentless war of extermination against all pit bulls?

00:34:40.000 Oh, boy.

00:34:42.000 So what's the status of pit bulls and bully breeds in the UK?

00:34:47.000 They're largely, they're largely banned.

00:34:49.000 And in fact, actually, I was going to say, my cousin in the 1990s was bitten on the eyebrow and still has a very bad scar.

00:34:55.000 Oh, wow.

00:34:56.000 They used to call them American pit bulls back then.

00:34:58.000 Oh, it's funny.

00:34:59.000 Yeah, which is funny considering they were bred in the UK.

00:35:01.000 The reason I knew that bulldogs were originally British was because of the British Bulldog, the wrestler in WWF.

00:35:07.000 Oh, yeah, classic.

00:35:09.000 So good.

00:35:09.000 But yeah, I mean, I think there's, so there have been a lot of attacks in the UK as well.

00:35:14.000 So they've phased out the breed completely.

00:35:16.000 They have, yeah.

00:35:17.000 I mean, obviously, you get the like here, then you get the sort of people whining and crying and moaning and saying that it's discriminatory and that it's not the dogs, it's the owners and all the same stuff gets said.

00:35:29.000 But yeah, they do exactly what they do here.

00:35:31.000 They attack and kill people, kill women, kill children.

00:35:34.000 So, Blake, what do we attribute this to?

00:35:37.000 Because what are you saying and what we're looking up says the statistics are very clear on this, that this one breed is particularly violent. 0.97

00:35:47.000 And look, you can just go to daily.

00:35:49.000 Well, what's really incredible headline after headline backing it up.

00:35:52.000 Well, what's really incredible to me, it's like, okay, this dog is clearly a dangerous one.

00:35:57.000 And what's remarkable and what I think makes this relevant is the truly pathological response that clearly a lot of people simultaneously, there are people who want to get a pit bull because they know it is a terrible dog and they like want to argue that the pit bull is not a bad dog, that it's like misunderstood or or whatever.

00:36:21.000 I mean, we see it with this charity.

00:36:23.000 Supposedly, this charity, my pit bull is family, allegedly, it's like, oh, it's just for people who need support with their pets.

00:36:29.000 But they didn't say, my dog is family.

00:36:31.000 They didn't say, my pet is family.

00:36:34.000 They chose a pit bull. 0.69

00:36:36.000 If they have that photo that we took of their like table that they have, like they have a freaking pit bull mascot.

00:36:43.000 And like they really lean into the pit bull imagery.

00:36:46.000 This is specifically a type of dog that there's a ton of them in shelters.

00:36:50.000 Why are there a ton of them in shelters? 0.90

00:36:52.000 Because they're horrible dogs.

00:36:53.000 And so people have to ditch them because they bite their toddler, but they don't want to put it down.

00:36:58.000 And it's truly, it's an insight into the psychological state of a lot of people, not exclusively on the left, frankly, that they want to go out of their way to get the dog that is more dangerous for them, to get the dog that is more dangerous to other people, as I suppose, a form of pretty aggressive virtue signaling, either because they want to prove that it's the owner, not the dog, until they turn out to be the bad owner whose dog goes nuts.

00:37:28.000 It's this true will towards ugliness, this will towards danger.

00:37:32.000 What ended up happening with this?

00:37:33.000 I think you're right, though, is like they know it's dangerous and like they want it to be which kid, like that's what they wanted.

00:37:40.000 What happened with that kid in that video?

00:37:43.000 I'm not sure.

00:37:44.000 I think we just got b-roll on it.

00:37:45.000 But yeah, there are definitely I get, I've got into like the algorithm on Instagram.

00:37:52.000 I follow every victim of every pit bull attack.

00:37:56.000 I don't know why it just pops up on my stuff, but like, well, if you guys are not doing it, they're going to find out there's algos. 1.00

00:38:02.000 But there's a lot.

00:38:03.000 Yeah.

00:38:04.000 There's a lot of pit bull attacks that are completely underreported.

00:38:08.000 It's crazy.

00:38:09.000 There's probably, so this is the question I have, especially for thought crime.

00:38:15.000 Is there more damage done by pit bulls or by school shooters?

00:38:22.000 Probably school shooters.

00:38:24.000 What would define damage, though?

00:38:26.000 No, I know.

00:38:27.000 No, I'm genuinely curious.

00:38:29.000 Dogs, as bad as pit bulls are, they don't kill that many people in like a national context.

00:38:33.000 I think maybe what, like 10, 15 people get killed by pit bulls a year.

00:38:38.000 Okay.

00:38:39.000 I mean, that's.

00:38:40.000 Yeah, but I mean, how many, what I suppose you have to do is you have to do some kind of per capita analysis.

00:38:46.000 But it's like every year and then we're like across the world.

00:38:49.000 And like, I mean, there's that's part of it.

00:38:52.000 I think pit bulls are an American thing.

00:38:54.000 And like, and like America and its cultural imperialist sphere, I don't think you're going to find pit bulls if you visit Italy or something.

00:39:00.000 But part of my point is I think that a lot of this actually goes severely underreported.

00:39:05.000 I think there's a lot more pit bull attacks happening in America than we actually even know about because nobody ever talks.

00:39:12.000 I tell you, I see a ton of this content.

00:39:14.000 Yeah, I guess it would only go if it got reported to the hospital.

00:39:17.000 There's probably a lot of people who just get bit and just tough it out.

00:39:20.000 I mean, there's people, I mean, that I mean, again, yeah, like nobody ever gets held to account either.

00:39:24.000 Like, where people, I mean, this happens a lot where dogs will attack.

00:39:29.000 And you hear, obviously, about people suing each other over dog attacks, but there's also probably significantly more people who actually never sue their family member or whoever for a dog attack.

00:39:41.000 Like, you're not going to sue your own family most of the time when you get attacked by a dog.

00:39:46.000 Just doesn't happen.

00:39:47.000 Excuse me, it's not reported.

00:39:48.000 No, and it's something where, like, I think, so obviously, right, the thought crime here is the question of the tabula rasso, right?

00:39:57.000 This is the heredity, the you know, heredity, genetics.

00:40:01.000 You know, is there a reason that, you know, people from certain countries are a certain way, you know, the Somalis, the, you know, Europeans, whatever.

00:40:10.000 This is the thought crime that that comes up.

00:40:12.000 You know, can you overcome your heredity?

00:40:14.000 Can you overcome it?

00:40:15.000 And certainly you were just talking about that with your book, is to say that there are lots of factors.

00:40:20.000 It is kind of a hodgepodge of all these different things.

00:40:23.000 However, there is still this innate nature.

00:40:26.000 And twin studies have borne this out over and over and over again.

00:40:31.000 Go read the book Blueprint if you want to check that out.

00:40:35.000 But also, I think maybe if we're doing a PSA, it's, hey, guys, if your dog's not good around kids, get the dog out there before anything bad happens.

00:40:47.000 And if you do have a pit bull, then maybe just don't bring him around kids.

00:40:51.000 Also, embrace the message from Obama.

00:40:54.000 They embrace the message from Obama that pit bulls are a lib breed and a lib cause.

00:40:59.000 I say that only because two years ago, Florida banned local bans on pit breeds.

00:41:06.000 They basically said you aren't allowed to ban pit bulls from things. 0.93

00:41:09.000 I don't know why Florida did that.

00:41:11.000 They had a good run on a lot of things, and that is a terrible law.

00:41:15.000 Wait, I'm sorry.

00:41:16.000 Wait, answer me.

00:41:17.000 Florida.

00:41:18.000 Florida at the state level banned local bans on pit bulls.

00:41:23.000 So you, you, you can't stop.

00:41:25.000 You can't stop.

00:41:26.000 You basically can't ban them.

00:41:27.000 You can't like locally, like a local community can't put in like a city or town ordinance against pit bulls.

00:41:34.000 Yeah, or like a public housing ordinance against it.

00:41:37.000 Yeah.

00:41:37.000 Or like even like an HOA couldn't like ban pit bulls.

00:41:39.000 No, no.

00:41:40.000 So that was that was a big mistake by Florida, in my opinion.

00:41:44.000 It's like when they get psyoped into those hair discrimination.

00:41:46.000 Yeah, but Pitbull the rapper probably would be really upset with a pit bull ban in Florida.

00:41:53.000 I'm just saying.

00:41:54.000 Could we ban Pit Bull the Rapper?

00:41:56.000 No, but I mean, it's just bad for business if there's a Pit Bull ban. 0.98

00:42:00.000 I mean, that's bad for business if we ban rappers.

00:42:04.000 That headline, Pitbull ban Florida.

00:42:06.000 Like, that's not great for, I mean, I bet our record label probably had a lobbyist involved with that.

00:42:12.000 You might be right.

00:42:13.000 Just saying.

00:42:14.000 No, send in your comments, send in your questions.

00:42:17.000 What do you think about the pit bull question?

00:42:22.000 Let's go around the horn, give everyone give out your coordinates because it is a shorter episode today.

00:42:26.000 It is what it is.

00:42:27.000 We do what we have to do.

00:42:29.000 Rawig Nationalists. 1.00

00:42:30.000 Okay, so buy my new book, The Last Men, Liberalism, and the Death of Masculinity from Amazon Hardcover Kindle audiobook.

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00:42:44.000 Yeah, that's where you'll find me.

00:42:45.000 Check it out.

00:42:46.000 Blake and Tyler.

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00:43:05.000 That's tpaction.com/slash careers, tpaction.com/slash careers.

00:43:10.000 And if you just want to get involved and come help us, plan your vacation now, as we talked about last election, to come to Arizona this fall and help chase some ballots for Andy Biggs.

00:43:22.000 You can go to coalitions.com, sign up there.

00:43:25.000 We'll have a lot more information soon about just getting involved.

00:43:28.000 And I'm Blake.

00:43:30.000 You can see me on the opposite side there every day on the Charlie Kirk show.

00:43:33.000 And then also, I liked it better when I wasn't on social media, but events have conspired to force me onto it.

00:43:39.000 So I am at Blake SNEF on X.

00:43:42.000 I tweet maybe three times a day.

00:43:44.000 By the way, Tyler, my brother's out of Minneapolis.

00:43:47.000 Just saying, just saying, if you're looking for some good hardened door knockers out there, you have a Somali brother?

00:43:55.000 I didn't know that.

00:43:55.000 That's cool.

00:43:57.000 Look, all you have to do is feed him rice and bananas.

00:43:59.000 That's literally, he will work for more rice and bananas.

00:44:02.000 If you just keep a bag, like a juicy bag filled with rice and bananas, that's all you need.

00:44:08.000 He can just sleep on the street.

00:44:09.000 He's not used to the niceties of modern life or anything like that.

00:44:13.000 It's kind of like a yurt, basically.

00:44:16.000 Getting out the vote is a lot more than bananas and rice, Jack.

00:44:19.000 It's like bananas and rice.

00:44:22.000 It's like commandeering a ship.

00:44:26.000 It's a little bit like that.

00:44:28.000 It's a little bit like commandeering the ship and saying, I am the captain now.

00:44:32.000 It's a little bit like running a daycare center.

00:44:34.000 It's a little bit like not running a daycare center every day.

00:44:37.000 Hey, actually.

00:44:37.000 Hey, you know what they say, guys?

00:44:39.000 You live and you learn.

00:44:41.000 You live and you learn.

00:44:43.000 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, go out there and commit more thought crime. 0.96

The Charlie Kirk Show - January 31, 2026

THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 113 ft. Raw Egg Nationalist — Suicidal Penguins? The Death of Masculinity? Obama Loves Pit Bulls?

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