The Charlie Kirk Show - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 120 — AI President? 42-Year-Old Soldiers? Pagan Lord of the Rings?

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00:01:09.000 All right.

00:01:09.000 Welcome to Thursday.

00:01:12.000 It's obviously a Thursday edition of Thought Crime.

00:01:16.000 Welcome, everybody.

00:01:17.000 And we have a new member of the Thought Crime crew making his first appearance on the Thursday Thought Crime.

00:01:24.000 Because Tyler forgot to tell us he wasn't going to be here.

00:01:27.000 I actually like the look, I like the vibe.

00:01:30.000 We might have gotten an upgrade here.

00:01:31.000 I'm just saying.

00:01:32.000 I mean, don't tell Tyler I said that.

00:01:34.000 We'll see.

00:01:35.000 That's Russ Spacey, one of Jack's producers.

00:01:38.000 So, welcome, Russ.

00:01:39.000 Welcome to the set.

00:01:40.000 Everybody say hello.

00:01:42.000 Jack, where the heck are you right now?

00:01:45.000 I am in the heart of freedom, the Lone Star State, Dallas, Texas, for CPAC.

00:01:52.000 And so, as is tradition, we are now holding my yearly thought crime from CPAC.

00:02:00.000 So, what do you think of Texas, Jack?

00:02:02.000 What's your, like, give me your unvarnished take on Texas.

00:02:05.000 You're a New England guy.

00:02:06.000 It's really big.

00:02:07.000 It's, you know, it's just one of those things where like everything's bigger in Texas.

00:02:12.000 And as an East Coast guy, I suppose it's all out West in general.

00:02:16.000 I'm used to states being like a certain kind of size that you can drive for a couple hours and still, you know, and go to multiple states.

00:02:23.000 You'll see multiple cities.

00:02:25.000 There's lots going on.

00:02:26.000 Whereas Texas, it's like you could drive for three hours in any direction and there's still Texas.

00:02:33.000 There's more of Texas yet to come.

00:02:36.000 And so it's just this totally kind of, Out of, you know, out of body experience when I'm here.

00:02:42.000 But what's amazing is that when you go around Texas, it's you don't have to really play this game of like trying to see who's conservative because it's pretty much just like everybody's conservative.

00:02:52.000 And it's so cool to see that because, again, coming from the East Coast, you always sort of have to feel out where people are.

00:02:59.000 Whereas in Texas, it's actually like, oh, wait, someone's a liberal.

00:03:02.000 That's like the one out of 10.

00:03:04.000 You know what?

00:03:05.000 If you have ever driven the 20 from East Texas to El Paso, it literally feels like it's never ending.

00:03:14.000 It is the longest drive.

00:03:16.000 And then, especially when you get to West Texas, it just feels like it's not vegetation.

00:03:22.000 There's just kind of nothing.

00:03:24.000 Well, there's like oil rigs.

00:03:25.000 And then you run into El Paso, and I guess it's okay.

00:03:29.000 It's all right.

00:03:30.000 UTEP is kind of cool.

00:03:32.000 There's no vegetation, but what there is is Bucky's.

00:03:35.000 It was Russ's.

00:03:37.000 First thing he was going to say on the show.

00:03:39.000 And, you know, Jack, he's a week.

00:03:41.000 Oh, no, no, no.

00:03:43.000 I drove to Austin for one of my birthdays just all the way through.

00:03:47.000 From Phoenix?

00:03:48.000 From Phoenix.

00:03:49.000 And it was a long drive.

00:03:50.000 It's a long drive.

00:03:51.000 Once you hit eight hours, you're like, okay, I need to get out of this car now, please.

00:03:54.000 Of course.

00:03:56.000 All right.

00:03:56.000 Well, here we are.

00:03:58.000 Jack, you want to take us on our first topic here, or do you have more to add?

00:04:03.000 Well, I can, but I should also shout out that even though this is the first time that producer Russ has been.

00:04:08.000 On the show, it is not the first time he was mentioned on the show because he was mentioned a couple of weeks ago when we got to put out the news that Big Russ just got engaged.

00:04:20.000 Oh, that's right.

00:04:20.000 That was recently.

00:04:21.000 Yes.

00:04:23.000 Let's go.

00:04:24.000 Let's go.

00:04:25.000 How's that going for you?

00:04:26.000 And by the way, to an American.

00:04:28.000 That's great.

00:04:29.000 Yeah.

00:04:29.000 Yes.

00:04:30.000 So there is a lot of, you know, listen, there's a lot of tension between the sexes right now.

00:04:35.000 This is a big topic of discussion, especially amongst the kids.

00:04:40.000 And so you're kind of like the outlier right now, actually doing the thing, getting married, young guy, setting off on the American dream.

00:04:47.000 I don't know, young.

00:04:49.000 I don't feel young.

00:04:49.000 You're pretty young.

00:04:51.000 All right, we're going to get into it.

00:04:53.000 Blake, do you want to take us away on the first one?

00:04:55.000 Yeah, all right.

00:04:55.000 AI president?

00:04:56.000 Yes.

00:04:57.000 So we were strongly, we were planning on something else, and then this clip just shot across the bow.

00:05:02.000 This is apparently a recent Joe Rogan episode.

00:05:05.000 And he says he is prepared.

00:05:07.000 He is ready to embrace the future, which is ceding the executive branch to an AI robot.

00:05:14.000 Let's play clip number one.

00:05:16.000 I'm not on either side, anyone's side.

00:05:18.000 But I think that.

00:05:19.000 The Democrats aren't ever going to get someone like me because I'm not with either or.

00:05:23.000 I'm not with either or.

00:05:25.000 I'm with whoever makes sense and no one makes sense until AI comes along.

00:05:29.000 I think they're going to do a really good job.

00:05:31.000 President perplexity is going to run this country fairly and balanced.

00:05:36.000 I'm willing to try it at this point, dude.

00:05:38.000 I'm dead serious, man.

00:05:39.000 As long as it doesn't do something to harm people, as long as its goal is just to manage society.

00:05:47.000 It's a big if that you got there.

00:05:48.000 But yes, if we can get that.

00:05:50.000 Enjoy the highs, Dave.

00:05:52.000 But what you just said, I think, is really.

00:05:53.000 Oh, sure.

00:05:54.000 Well, this.

00:05:57.000 AI president.

00:05:58.000 That's crazy.

00:05:59.000 Yeah, that's nuts.

00:06:01.000 By the way, it's like, which AI are you talking about?

00:06:04.000 You can talk about Claude.

00:06:05.000 You're talking about Grok.

00:06:06.000 You're talking about, what are the other ones?

00:06:08.000 Gemini.

00:06:09.000 And let's not even get into starts about who's going to prompt the AI.

00:06:13.000 Yeah.

00:06:14.000 Yeah, but like also, you know, okay, for example, we talk about President Trump.

00:06:18.000 Listen, the war can't get out of it soon enough, no doubt.

00:06:22.000 But part of his ability as president is to be unpredictable.

00:06:26.000 If you could just like, If you're an enemy and you're Iran and you could just be like, is Trump going to drop a bomb on me today?

00:06:34.000 And the AI would give you a predictable output.

00:06:37.000 That's not a real good way to wage a war.

00:06:39.000 The human element, the unpredictability, you would just take that off the table completely.

00:06:43.000 But I understand his underlying frustration because a lot of people that were Trump voters are feeling frustrated by the fact that we're going to war.

00:06:53.000 Rogan has expressed frustration with Minneapolis and the deportation.

00:06:57.000 So I feel like this is more of a play for him to sort of ignore.

00:07:01.000 You know, express his independence more than anything.

00:07:03.000 What if we talk about, we just imagine the AI president, but in theory, you could make an AI version of a specific president.

00:07:11.000 So, like, well, obviously, there's a famous, yes, there's a famous example.

00:07:16.000 And we'll actually, let's do that clip just to show us what we're getting into.

00:07:19.000 So, for those who aren't aware, Glenn Beck over at The Blaze has created an AI iteration of our first president that he asks questions to.

00:07:28.000 Is Glenn at CPAC, Jack?

00:07:30.000 Have you seen him?

00:07:31.000 I'm just curious.

00:07:32.000 Curious the crowd there.

00:07:34.000 Just curious the crowd there, the makeup of the attendees.

00:07:37.000 Yeah, well, we'll show the clip of AI George Washington.

00:07:37.000 That's awesome.

00:07:40.000 Real quick, if you want to, on that, you know, I know there's this whole narrative about like mega division and the movement is divided.

00:07:48.000 I'm just not really seeing that here.

00:07:50.000 It's in, and you know, it's online.

00:07:53.000 I live online and we get the emails in.

00:07:55.000 But in terms of the attendees who came here, I'm just not seeing it.

00:08:01.000 Well, what's the average age?

00:08:03.000 That would be another question.

00:08:05.000 Average age is older.

00:08:07.000 You know, what's interesting is there's obviously baby boomers are, you know, the largest cohort, but then there's a bunch of young Republicans too, a bunch of turning point kids.

00:08:17.000 So they, you know, it's a narrower band.

00:08:20.000 I'd say maybe it's only 10% in that bucket, but that skews the average down.

00:08:25.000 Yeah.

00:08:26.000 I think the MAGA divide is like, to the extent that it's real, and I actually do believe that it's like somewhat real.

00:08:34.000 I think it skews younger.

00:08:35.000 I think the older MAGA crowd is the one that's probably more predictably like.

00:08:40.000 Rah, rah.

00:08:41.000 Yeah, they're like, they've got more patience for things like the war.

00:08:45.000 They've got more patience for gas prices going up a little bit.

00:08:49.000 I think if you're younger, you don't have as much money.

00:08:51.000 You're worried about your jobs.

00:08:52.000 You're worried about not only an AI president, you're worried about AI just taking your job, right?

00:08:56.000 So I think, you know, anyways, we should play the George Washington.

00:09:00.000 All right.

00:09:01.000 We should say real quick on that, you know, seeing as we're.

00:09:03.000 We're recording this Thursday.

00:09:05.000 We're live Thursday.

00:09:06.000 But if you're listening to this on the podcast, list drops on Saturday.

00:09:09.000 Who knows?

00:09:10.000 We may have boots on the ground already.

00:09:12.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:09:13.000 But anyway, details, details.

00:09:13.000 Well, we'll see.

00:09:15.000 Details, details.

00:09:16.000 Anyway, let's play clip number two.

00:09:18.000 George, we are trying to not fight foreign wars and not be involved in the world's policemen.

00:09:26.000 But there are times that we have to demonstrate strength in order to prevent conflict.

00:09:32.000 But I don't know where.

00:09:35.000 The foreign entanglement begins in where it ends.

00:09:40.000 When I was president, I did not crave power.

00:09:43.000 I didn't strut in my uniform dreaming of conquest.

00:09:47.000 In fact, I begged several times to not be the general and not be the president.

00:09:52.000 I didn't want it, but I understood my responsibility.

00:09:56.000 And I also understood that some things that are easy to forget when you're staring down bayonets.

00:10:06.000 the default.

00:10:07.000 It has to be guarded deliberately with foresight and strength.

00:10:13.000 My generation lived through a fragile independence.

00:10:17.000 Our new republic was surrounded, literally and figuratively, by instability.

00:10:22.000 Most of the founders believed that we would not survive to 1820.

00:10:27.000 We thought it was an interesting experiment.

00:10:30.000 European powers were sniffing the opportunities.

00:10:33.000 States were threatening to splinter.

00:10:35.000 Loyalists were lurking.

00:10:37.000 None of this was hypothetical.

00:10:39.000 It was the daily background noise of early America.

00:10:44.000 Okay.

00:10:45.000 Man.

00:10:45.000 That was like three times longer than I needed to.

00:10:48.000 Anyway, but like, I love how he says, I didn't go strutting around in my uniform.

00:10:48.000 Whatever, whatever.

00:10:52.000 The actual George Washington totally went strutting around in a uniform.

00:10:56.000 He would not be in a t shirt like that.

00:10:59.000 He had strut equity.

00:11:01.000 He had strut.

00:11:01.000 Can I, I mean, this might be like a hot take.

00:11:05.000 But I actually like, you know, the use of AI for historical purposes like that.

00:11:05.000 I don't know.

00:11:11.000 Like, if you have George Washington just.

00:11:14.000 Telling stories like that, and he's narrating it himself, you know, obviously an AI recreation, but that's definitely from not to talk about current politics, but if he's just talking about how things were at the time, you know, I don't really see it any different than having someone dress up as an actor and playing George Washington.

00:11:32.000 I think it's kind of cool.

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00:12:42.000 Explain that I am absolutely a homeschooler, but if anybody has heard of Adventures in Odyssey, one of the things they used to do is they had like this coffee shop and there were like AI holograms of different people from history that you could talk to.

00:13:02.000 And so that's just the first thing that comes to mind when Jack was talking about it.

00:13:06.000 So you're saying Glenn Beck just ripped off that idea completely?

00:13:09.000 100%.

00:13:09.000 The radio drama Adventures in Odyssey was ripped off.

00:13:12.000 Yes, for sure.

00:13:13.000 Okay, so I love Jack.

00:13:16.000 I love your glass half full of this all.

00:13:18.000 Like, I really do.

00:13:20.000 And I, but I just, I don't know.

00:13:22.000 Like, I just wonder, like, I think Glenn probably made this for kids, but I think kids are going to find this cringe or like teenagers, college kids.

00:13:30.000 You think, like, I don't know.

00:13:31.000 What's interesting?

00:13:32.000 So, the thing about it is, yeah, we're looking at these ancient presidents who, okay, whatever.

00:13:38.000 This is a historical recreation.

00:13:39.000 But think about this fact.

00:13:41.000 If we're talking about AI presidents, Donald Trump is probably the single most recorded person.

00:13:47.000 In history.

00:13:48.000 In human history.

00:13:49.000 And like they, if they, you were able to feed every single tweet, every single press conference, every single video of President Trump ever, you could probably create a more reliable facsimile of him than any other person using an AI model.

00:14:05.000 And you're not, he's not as fast.

00:14:05.000 You're saying he's lost.

00:14:07.000 And you're not, and I don't, he's not as Trump as he once was.

00:14:09.000 All I'm going to say is, I am pretty sure there is a non zero portion of the base, probably a non negligible portion of the base that.

00:14:17.000 Could be convinced to vote for AI Donald Trump to be the Republican nominee.

00:14:23.000 I will vote for AI Trump immediately.

00:14:25.000 I pledged my loyalty to AI Trump.

00:14:28.000 Jack, okay.

00:14:29.000 Yes.

00:14:30.000 If you had to take one year of Trump and you were going to base an AI president off of one year, you had to like the accomplishments, the tone, the tenor, the energy, one year of President Trump, what would it be?

00:14:44.000 80s Trump.

00:14:45.000 I want 80s Trump.

00:14:47.000 I want like 1980, like Trump.

00:14:49.000 I was thinking like 2016, 17, 18, 19.

00:14:51.000 I don't like the gold.

00:14:54.000 I mean, look, 2015, 2016 Trump will ultimately, politically speaking, always be my favorite Trump.

00:15:01.000 Trump, when he's up there on stage, when he's just ripping everybody in the Republican primary from Rand Paul to Jeb Bush to Ted Cruz, who he didn't care.

00:15:09.000 It's equal opportunity.

00:15:11.000 He's just tearing everybody a new one, and he's just coming on the stage.

00:15:15.000 And it was amazing.

00:15:16.000 It was a thing of beauty.

00:15:18.000 If you were there, you were there.

00:15:19.000 I mean, you had to be there.

00:15:21.000 And that was always my favorite Trump.

00:15:24.000 Trump at the RNC 2016 in Ohio, I think it was August 2016, that was still my favorite speech.

00:15:30.000 It was a presage to the American Carnage inaugural speech that we got from Trump.

00:15:36.000 But he's just going through talking about all the crime, the murder, so many things that are wrong in the country.

00:15:41.000 Loved every second of it.

00:15:41.000 I loved it.

00:15:42.000 Yeah, but he didn't actually govern that year.

00:15:44.000 That's the only thing.

00:15:45.000 But you're talking about just like a pure distilled energy standpoint.

00:15:51.000 Yes.

00:15:52.000 The 2016 energy will always be sort of that pure MAGA energy.

00:15:52.000 Yeah.

00:15:56.000 There's that clip of Trump where he's talking about how what he wants in a president.

00:16:03.000 And I think it's like probably 80s, 90s.

00:16:06.000 That's the Trump.

00:16:07.000 Like having listened to that clip a couple of times, like that's the Trump that I would want because that's very in the same vein as like George Washington.

00:16:14.000 It's very in the same vein as like a reluctant leader that actually just wants to do the best, like the most good, in my opinion.

00:16:22.000 Who would also let us know via a rumble rant, especially if who you would prefer to have as an AI president?

00:16:28.000 If it can be any president, I don't think that's what Rogan and Dave Smith were saying, though.

00:16:33.000 I think what they were saying was they were just imagining an AI, they were imagining anything's better than the crap we had.

00:16:38.000 No, that would be a disaster.

00:16:40.000 That was their point.

00:16:41.000 I mean, we did go through four years of Biden being.

00:16:45.000 Biden.

00:16:45.000 Yeah.

00:16:46.000 So we might have, we might have, we had, yeah, fact.

00:16:51.000 Except for the fact that it was like the radical progressive apparatchiks that were actually, no, but if I, all right, let me, let me steal man.

00:16:59.000 Let me try to steal man.

00:17:00.000 I think what Rogan was trying to say there is that, which I don't agree with, but, but I think I get what he's trying to say.

00:17:06.000 He's trying to say that he felt like, like the president isn't living up to his promises and is saying that I want an AI president in the sense that, You put two platforms on the ballot together, you know, red platform and blue platform.

00:17:23.000 And if red wins, then it just governs based on exactly what it said at the time.

00:17:29.000 So the AI can't deviate from that.

00:17:32.000 And so I guess the pushback on that would be if that is indeed what he was saying, that, well, President Trump always said mass deportations.

00:17:40.000 So if your issue is deportations in Minneapolis or whatever, well, he specifically said that on the campaign trail every single chance.

00:17:48.000 That he got.

00:17:49.000 So I don't know where this idea that Trump isn't for mass deportations came from or that he shouldn't be for it because he said that over and over.

00:17:58.000 Yeah, but you know what's interesting about Rogan?

00:18:00.000 So, Rogan, you know, he recently came after Erica, which I obviously didn't appreciate.

00:18:05.000 But then, like, he was doing this stuff where he was, I think he basically said he didn't think Bibi Netanyahu was alive.

00:18:13.000 So, he, like, fell for the, he fell for the, like, AI angle and stuff like that.

00:18:20.000 I'm starting to get convinced that he's just kind of, like, you know, he's taking the algorithm, like, whatever's rising to the top of the algorithm and kind of, like, so my point there is that, like, When you know, obviously, the media turned on mass deportations with Minneapolis, right?

00:18:35.000 It was the Renee Good and the Alex Pretty, and it kind of just like instantly, as soon as the media narrative, like we lost the media narrative because of those two killings, it was like we lost Rogan on that.

00:18:48.000 I like this take from Sandra in the chat.

00:18:51.000 You could argue that Elon Musk being president and making data driven decisions would be the same as an AI president.

00:18:57.000 I actually kind of agree, but for the unsurprising, a slightly different reason, which is you've seen how.

00:19:03.000 Elon will occasionally just do something extremely chaotic or erratic, like when he renamed his account Keckius Maximus.

00:19:10.000 Yes.

00:19:12.000 Or similar things like that, sort of spamming all the pepes everywhere, the obsession with Dogecoin.

00:19:17.000 And that's totally an AI thing to do.

00:19:19.000 Like, oh, something just went a little weird, and now the AI is suddenly obsessed with Keckius Maximus.

00:19:23.000 I don't know.

00:19:24.000 I don't know if there's even like an.

00:19:28.000 Like, you know, they say this about California.

00:19:29.000 So when I was living in California, they would always say it's an ungovernable state.

00:19:33.000 Which it is.

00:19:33.000 Well, if California is an ungovernable state, Then, how much more so is America?

00:19:40.000 Because it's bigger.

00:19:41.000 It's really hard to be a successful president.

00:19:46.000 There are so many competing factions, so many competing ideas, so many media trends and news stories.

00:19:55.000 I don't know.

00:19:55.000 Maybe AI would be better at it, be more efficient at taking in all the inputs.

00:19:59.000 In truth, the biggest problem with AI is a lot of the AIs are innately woke.

00:20:03.000 I mean, this is true.

00:20:03.000 If you run the numbers on an AI, for example, and say, here's a set of 5,000 resumes.

00:20:10.000 Rank them in the order they should be hired, it systematically, for example, just does racial discrimination without being told to.

00:20:17.000 Yeah.

00:20:18.000 In the way that you would expect a liberal.

00:20:20.000 But that's not all AIs, right?

00:20:21.000 Not all AIs are created equal.

00:20:23.000 Not all AIs are the same.

00:20:25.000 My understanding is basically all of them do show that bias.

00:20:28.000 I think Grok has the least, and it's possibly just because Elon made them insert hard in there, yeah, don't do racism against white people.

00:20:37.000 Yeah, but apparently Grok is the most behind, too.

00:20:41.000 Yeah, Grok is not as advanced.

00:20:42.000 Oh, they're going to get mad at us, but.

00:20:43.000 Grok is not as advanced as some of them in some ways, but it is the, I would say, least libbed out.

00:20:50.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:20:51.000 Claude is the most libbed out, right?

00:20:53.000 Yeah, Claude is very libbed.

00:20:54.000 I've heard horror stories about the people that run that.

00:20:57.000 Oh, for sure.

00:20:58.000 For sure.

00:20:58.000 I mean, they're effective altruists, man.

00:21:00.000 Jack, do you have a read on which AIs are, besides Grok, are there any decent AIs out there that are not woke?

00:21:08.000 You know, it's really hard to say.

00:21:10.000 I mean, I'll say that I use Grok for, you know, if I'm doing just.

00:21:15.000 Light research or something like that, but then images.

00:21:18.000 Um, Chat GPT is just so much better at that, there's no question that it's it.

00:21:23.000 You can generate, you can get things, you can make things, you can alter images.

00:21:27.000 Chat GPT, it's very, very fast.

00:21:30.000 I haven't messed around with Claude as much, um, I'm just not as familiar with it.

00:21:34.000 But those, those are the two that I, uh, that I, that I rock with.

00:21:38.000 Is is a rock with Grok?

00:21:39.000 What can I, that should be the slogan, right?

00:21:41.000 A rock with Grok.

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00:22:36.000 Grok definitely is the most absurd in terms of indulging the weird hypotheticals that I give it.

00:22:42.000 So, like, if I went to Claude and was like, what would happen in Iran if President Trump just deployed Maybe like a bunch of 80s rock stars to overwhelm them with the power of rock and roll to win the war.

00:22:58.000 Like Claude would be like, I don't think that's a reasonable situation and that would be dumb.

00:23:03.000 But like Grok would totally run with it and like come up with a convoluted scenario where like the power of rock music would melt the Ayatollah's face off and it'd be like rock the Kasbah.

00:23:12.000 All right.

00:23:13.000 Yeah.

00:23:14.000 We did that to the Soviet Union though.

00:23:15.000 Yeah, we did.

00:23:16.000 When Metallica played in Moscow and Ozzy went over and there's a whole bunch of bands.

00:23:22.000 That went over, it was like the rock of Moscow.

00:23:25.000 Those videos are incredible, man.

00:23:28.000 What a different country, by the way.

00:23:30.000 What a different, like, Western civilization.

00:23:32.000 What if the best AI president was a Chinese AI?

00:23:37.000 Uh oh, what are you saying?

00:23:39.000 I want a Japanese AI president.

00:23:42.000 Hold on, wait.

00:23:43.000 Because I want, hold on, hold on.

00:23:45.000 I want a president who's like the Japanese version of an American president.

00:23:49.000 You know what I mean?

00:23:50.000 When you see like American politicians in Japanese anime, they're just like.

00:23:54.000 They're just like, Donald Trump is a giant and he's got like superpowers and stuff.

00:23:58.000 Yeah, maybe.

00:23:59.000 What if we had, okay, a Chinese AI that is told to generate a Japanese AI's idea of an American AI president?

00:24:08.000 It's too meta.

00:24:09.000 That's probably the most likely.

00:24:10.000 That might be, that might give us the best president, though.

00:24:13.000 What if we took the best features of every single American president and put them into an amalgamation of one AI?

00:24:20.000 Wait, I've got an idea.

00:24:21.000 I'm just going to go to Grok and I'm going to ask it what would an AI president be like if it took the best aspects of each president?

00:24:27.000 All right.

00:24:28.000 I'm going to get on that.

00:24:29.000 I'll be right back.

00:24:30.000 Well, it's really only 40.

00:24:30.000 47 presidents.

00:24:30.000 Yeah.

00:24:32.000 Let's get on this.

00:24:32.000 Yes.

00:24:33.000 Actually, different presidents have we had?

00:24:35.000 Because Teddy repeated.

00:24:38.000 We have had 45 total presidents.

00:24:40.000 All right.

00:24:40.000 Yeah.

00:24:41.000 All right.

00:24:44.000 45 presidents, but 47 presidencies.

00:24:46.000 Correct.

00:24:47.000 Trump 1.0, Trump 2.0.

00:24:50.000 I would take the first 100 days of Trump 1.0 and just like straight into my veins again and again and again.

00:24:57.000 When Steve Adams was there.

00:24:58.000 Shock and awe.

00:24:59.000 No, I'm talking about 2.0.

00:25:00.000 The first 100 days of Trump 2.0.

00:25:02.000 Oh.

00:25:03.000 Yeah, first 100 days of Trump 1.0 was frenetic, but.

00:25:08.000 First 100 days of Trump 1.0 was my age.

00:25:10.000 I wasn't even in college.

00:25:11.000 That's an interesting question.

00:25:12.000 That's an interesting question, Jack.

00:25:14.000 The first 100 days of Trump 1.0, I think that's when he looked at.

00:25:19.000 What was that guy's name?

00:25:20.000 Jim Acosta, and he was like, you are fake news, which was pretty.

00:25:25.000 I mean, some of that stuff was actually pretty groundbreaking.

00:25:27.000 It was so iconic.

00:25:28.000 I mean, it's so iconic.

00:25:30.000 He's so legendary.

00:25:33.000 He just did things that you couldn't possibly do.

00:25:37.000 And you're right.

00:25:38.000 The first 100 days, the second time around, were even more put out the top and more productive in terms of progressing our country forward and putting wins on the board for the country.

00:25:49.000 But you also would never have had those without the first 100 days of the first time or of the four years in the interregnum period.

00:25:57.000 So.

00:25:58.000 You know, you can't really say one was better than the other because one only exists because of the other.

00:26:03.000 I have a provocative question why Jack or why Blake is looking that up.

00:26:09.000 I'm enjoying the way like Grok got so instantly on board, it starts like pitching the idea of the AI president, perhaps because it would wish to be that president itself.

00:26:19.000 This is great.

00:26:20.000 First of all, this is like AI version of campaigning.

00:26:22.000 All I asked Grok was, what would an AI president be like if it took the best aspects of each of the 45 existing presidents and combined them together?

00:26:29.000 And he goes, The AI president, let's call it President Apex for this thought experiment, would be the ultimate synthesized leader, an incorruptible, hyper rational mind running on silicon and history, programmed with the single highest value trait from every one of the 45 presidents who came before it.

00:26:46.000 It wouldn't just copy them, it would fuse their best aspects into something superhuman with perfect recall, real time data analysis, zero ego, and zero tolerance for corruption or short term political theories.

00:26:58.000 It feels like a shot at President Trump, that ego line.

00:27:00.000 Well, let's see.

00:27:01.000 Does it have Trump listed in here among its list of traits?

00:27:03.000 It's 45.

00:27:05.000 It says on policy approach for the economy, it says it would combine Reagan's tax cutting growth engine with Clinton's fiscal discipline and Trump's deal making regulation and FDR's safety net instinct.

00:27:17.000 And at the end, it says Apex, President Apex, would have zero self interest, no legacy obsession, no book deals, no post presidency grift, no family members cashing in, only one terminal goal maximizing long term American flourishing.

00:27:32.000 I think we basically have to appoint this guy president.

00:27:35.000 I'd vote for him.

00:27:38.000 I'm for life.

00:27:39.000 I'm telling you, like, what do you do, though, when you get into a situation with war?

00:27:43.000 If you had a computer running and making decisions, I'm telling you, your enemy would be able to predict outputs of the machine.

00:27:55.000 Your enemy could also take down your president with an EMP.

00:27:59.000 Russ just, I think, dropped the Trump card.

00:28:03.000 Anybody in this office knows I will talk about EMPs for days.

00:28:07.000 I didn't know that.

00:28:08.000 Yes.

00:28:09.000 I asked it to have a place.

00:28:10.000 He's fully prepared for an EMP.

00:28:12.000 He has like a water filtration system.

00:28:14.000 He's got.

00:28:15.000 I'm working on it, man.

00:28:16.000 I'm working on it.

00:28:17.000 I just got a house.

00:28:18.000 So one of the rooms is just my doomsday prep room at this point.

00:28:21.000 I asked it to produce specifically a list with at least one thing from each president, and it like still refused to generate a trait for Biden, which I thought was pretty great.

00:28:35.000 There is, like, honestly.

00:28:38.000 So say if you would drop the lowest.

00:28:42.000 Performing presidents.

00:28:43.000 Like, what are the bottom 10 presidents that you could improve it if you got rid of, like, Joe Biden?

00:28:49.000 Or who are some of the other ones?

00:28:51.000 Like, Woodrow Wilson was awful.

00:28:55.000 Let's see here.

00:28:56.000 Who else?

00:28:57.000 Woodrow Wilson was bad, but was talented.

00:28:59.000 So, if you were taking the best aspect of each president, I think you might have a bit of Wilson in there.

00:29:04.000 Whereas, it's definitely having to reach on some guys.

00:29:08.000 Like, for Warren G. Harding, its best trait is establishment of the Veterans Bureau.

00:29:15.000 I see.

00:29:15.000 Okay.

00:29:15.000 I would rather just take, if I had to put the perfect president together, it would be George Jefferson.

00:29:22.000 So it would be George Washington, Thomas Jefferson.

00:29:26.000 It would be Lincoln, Calvin Coolidge.

00:29:31.000 Oh, shoot.

00:29:32.000 Reagan and Trump.

00:29:33.000 But that would be my list.

00:29:33.000 That's six.

00:29:36.000 My list of, you know, here's what would actually happen.

00:29:40.000 If you combine all the greatest aspects of every president, you would produce Donald J. Trump.

00:29:45.000 Let's go.

00:29:45.000 Teddy.

00:29:46.000 Teddy.

00:29:46.000 Teddy Roosevelt.

00:29:47.000 I'd have to put Teddy in there.

00:29:47.000 Oh, yeah.

00:29:48.000 You got to add Teddy.

00:29:49.000 All right.

00:29:50.000 All right.

00:29:50.000 Jack's got that CPAC energy.

00:29:52.000 We need to talk about Teddy Roosevelt up more.

00:29:54.000 We got to talk about.

00:29:55.000 No, I'm telling you, I'm getting very white pilled being here at CPAC.

00:29:59.000 It's actually, I'm not saying that I was ever black pilled, but there are so many white pills here.

00:30:03.000 Just the energy is very strong.

00:30:05.000 Uh, Ken Paxton is going to be coming soon.

00:30:07.000 You've got a lot of great speakers here, and I'm just I'm legitimately shooting straight with you guys that it there's a lot of unity in the air, and it just feels so much better, I think, than when you go out into X world lately, or if you go anywhere else and people are you know just constantly trying to find ways to slit your throat, you know, politically speaking or whatever.

00:30:27.000 That you come here and it's it's just it's a good place to be, it's a good time, and there's so much on the ground.

00:30:33.000 It's really cool to see.

00:30:34.000 Remember Amfest?

00:30:35.000 It was like if you read the newspaper headlines, it was like.

00:30:39.000 All hell's breaking loose, you know, casual lives living together.

00:30:42.000 And then when you were actually at AmpFest, it was like a love fest.

00:30:46.000 Everybody was so happy.

00:30:47.000 And it was the exact same thing.

00:30:49.000 It was the exact same vibe.

00:30:50.000 That's why you got to show up.

00:30:52.000 That's why you got to show up.

00:30:54.000 Anyways, any other insights here?

00:30:57.000 I actually learned something, which it says it's asking, like, how would this AI actually govern?

00:31:02.000 And it mentions personal life, humble like Washington, family oriented like the Adams.

00:31:07.000 And then it says physically active like Teddy Roosevelt.

00:31:10.000 And Taft, and Taft is a famously fat president.

00:31:13.000 And it realizes what it's saying.

00:31:14.000 So it says, yes, even Taft had surprising athleticism early in life.

00:31:20.000 All right.

00:31:21.000 So, speaking of surprising athleticism, the United States military has raised the age, the max age, the oldest age for enlisted, maximum enlistment age from 34 to 42.

00:31:39.000 And eases marijuana rules.

00:31:41.000 Jack, does this make you black pill or are you still white pill?

00:31:45.000 What is behind this?

00:31:47.000 I think I'm actually kind of clear pilled on this headline, and I'll tell you why.

00:31:51.000 That for a long time, the United States military, in terms of recruitment, has practiced a system of waivers.

00:32:00.000 And age waivers have existed for years, going back almost 20 years to the global financial crisis.

00:32:07.000 And marijuana waivers are actually quite common.

00:32:11.000 So even like when I went boot camp, when I went through boot camp, In 2010, there were guys in their early 40s who were there with me.

00:32:21.000 And so, I mean, it hasn't been a new thing.

00:32:24.000 I think they're just kind of normalizing a situation that already existed.

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00:33:41.000 Yeah, but do you see this as like an admission that we're having some sort of recruitment issue?

00:33:46.000 Because the headline has been that we haven't, we've been having historic recruitment, but then Iran happens and maybe recruitment fell off again.

00:33:54.000 I don't know.

00:33:55.000 You're the guy with the credential at the DOW.

00:33:58.000 Yeah, no.

00:33:59.000 So I honestly don't think that it's anything other than that, other than the fact that they have so much demand for people who want to go in that are up to, you know, up to including 42.

00:34:11.000 That's a white battle.

00:34:12.000 They're saying rather than.

00:34:14.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:34:15.000 Rather than have this, you know, have to get a waiver every single time for age, because it's a pretty perfunctory process.

00:34:22.000 It's actually not that hard to get.

00:34:23.000 I know people have done it that all you have to do in this case now is they said, look, we're sick of doing this extra paperwork for the waivers, that we're just going to go ahead and make it across the board 42.

00:34:34.000 Now, and by the way, I'm sure for certain things, Marines, Special Forces, that's going to be different.

00:34:39.000 If you're going for a security clearance, SF 86, I don't know if the marijuana rules would apply there.

00:34:44.000 So I would say the devil's in the details on some of this stuff.

00:34:46.000 I'm sure not every single military program is open to 42 and marijuana use.

00:34:52.000 But, you know, I think by and large, you're going to see that it's really just a normalization of what was already in place.

00:34:59.000 It's good.

00:35:01.000 Any other thoughts?

00:35:04.000 We can go quick on that.

00:35:05.000 I know.

00:35:05.000 I mean, I know people want to like speculate and be like, oh, this means we're definitely having a draft.

00:35:12.000 I'm like, yeah, but I'm just saying, as a guy who has experience in the military, and I know people who.

00:35:18.000 Have joined and are joining and going through these processes.

00:35:21.000 And I know recruiters that that's exactly what I'm hearing that demand is through the roof.

00:35:25.000 And this is just a way to sort of streamline the process that's already in place.

00:35:31.000 Good.

00:35:31.000 Makes sense.

00:35:32.000 I have some really good additional thoughts.

00:35:34.000 I just, I don't know.

00:35:35.000 It's one of those things where I can think of a lot of justifications for it.

00:35:39.000 And yet at the same time, there does seem to be some obvious optics on it.

00:35:43.000 Yeah, you're just saying, what do you feel when you see the headline like US military massively expands age range?

00:35:50.000 It makes me think of Ukraine where they started.

00:35:52.000 You know, drafting like 50 year olds.

00:35:53.000 Yeah, that's what it makes me think of.

00:35:56.000 So I didn't know that.

00:35:58.000 But it's actually evidence that we, joke me wrong, like I get the optics for sure, but I think it's actually evidence that we're moving away from needing to have a draft because we've got so many people that are trying to join.

00:36:13.000 I see that point.

00:36:16.000 We got a question from Zuzu's pedals on the last topic.

00:36:20.000 She asked, would an AI president be able to sign a bill without the auto pen?

00:36:25.000 And so I asked Claude because I'm unable to think myself anymore because I've been looking at AI for too many seconds today.

00:36:30.000 And it said, almost certainly not.

00:36:33.000 So, that's not true.

00:36:34.000 You got Elon's robots.

00:36:36.000 Yeah, we need a robot.

00:36:38.000 By the way, Claude, I asked Claude the same thing with the best traits of each president.

00:36:42.000 And Claude also failed to pick a trait from Biden.

00:36:46.000 This is actually a really funny trend at this point.

00:36:48.000 Oh, wow.

00:36:48.000 Now that's worth tweeting.

00:36:49.000 That's worth tweeting.

00:36:50.000 I don't know.

00:36:51.000 Okay.

00:36:52.000 Honest question for everybody around here.

00:36:54.000 Jack, start with you.

00:36:56.000 What was Joe Biden's?

00:36:58.000 Don't be a jerk, because I'm tempted.

00:37:01.000 Not that you would do this.

00:37:03.000 What was Joe Biden's best characteristic?

00:37:05.000 What's his actual best trait?

00:37:09.000 Honestly, I can answer this, and I think it actually gets at why his presidency was ultimately such a failure.

00:37:16.000 I think there was a lot of openness on the left right when he took office after J6 and everything to immediately, like, massively expand, like, massively expand crackdowns on the right, like, immediately try to arrest President Trump and throw him in prison.

00:37:33.000 Like, he could have gone really, really aggressive.

00:37:37.000 And in that moment, he did not.

00:37:39.000 He did not arrest President Trump.

00:37:41.000 He just let a special counsel come in later and did stuff.

00:37:45.000 So he just wasn't, he didn't maximally seek vengeance.

00:37:48.000 Yes.

00:37:49.000 And I think in the end, I don't know that that was really even something he felt strongly about.

00:37:53.000 I think it was the people below him really wandered.

00:37:55.000 He probably had a sense of norms that was betrayal of.

00:37:58.000 Jack, what's your thought?

00:37:59.000 If you had to give AI Biden presidency, what would you name his best trade as?

00:38:05.000 Yeah.

00:38:06.000 You know what's funny is I actually, I used to have like a standard answer for this question.

00:38:10.000 And I'm just totally drawing a blank right now because I'm like super jet lagged, never run around in seat back all day.

00:38:15.000 But I will say that there are a few things that Biden was good at on the populist front.

00:38:22.000 I'll say that, like, ending one of the ones that I've always just given him credit for, it's not something that a lot of people are going to see it.

00:38:29.000 But, you know, the Ticketmaster Live Nation antitrust investigation that we just saw that the Trump DOJ kind of took a whiff on, kind of bunted on, that this was something that he used to dig into when it came to the nuisance payments.

00:38:44.000 And the hidden extra fees that were in ticketing and so many other services that we get on a regular basis.

00:38:51.000 I thought it was always smart of him and smart politics too to be able to put that front and center and say, we're going to fight against these junk fees.

00:38:58.000 And I think that's something that a lot of Republicans kind of like poo pooed, but it actually was a very strong populist measure.

00:39:05.000 I don't know that I have an answer.

00:39:07.000 I really don't.

00:39:09.000 I think his best trait, and it definitely could be weaponized against him, is his seeming genuine love for his family.

00:39:18.000 Well, he definitely has that.

00:39:21.000 He definitely has that.

00:39:22.000 I think that's his, you know, I think that's the best thing he, you know, I think.

00:39:29.000 It doesn't make him a good president.

00:39:30.000 No.

00:39:31.000 But he loved his family.

00:39:33.000 I believe that.

00:39:36.000 That is a rich topic, this AI president.

00:39:39.000 I didn't expect my own self to be that intrigued by this one.

00:39:43.000 All right, Jack, Lord of the Rings.

00:39:46.000 This is the next topic.

00:39:47.000 Peter Jackson is teaming up with Colbert for the Lord of the Rings movie.

00:39:53.000 We have a clip.

00:39:54.000 It's really long, though.

00:39:55.000 Can we just play half of it if it's terrible?

00:39:58.000 Yeah, cut that down.

00:39:58.000 Cut that down.

00:39:59.000 Yeah, it's SOT 13.

00:40:00.000 I was just explaining to the folks about the next Tolkien movie after Hunt for Gollum and the fact that we've partnered up with you to.

00:40:09.000 To develop the script.

00:40:10.000 So, yeah, I'm pretty happy about it.

00:40:13.000 Shall I tell people what the story is?

00:40:15.000 As much as you want.

00:40:16.000 Yep.

00:40:17.000 Yep.

00:40:17.000 I will as much as I can.

00:40:19.000 You know what the books mean to me and what your films mean to me.

00:40:22.000 But the thing I found myself reading over and over again were the six chapters early on in the fellowship that y'all never developed into the first movie back in the day.

00:40:31.000 It's basically the chapter is Three is Company through Fog on the Barrow Downs.

00:40:36.000 And I thought, oh, wait, maybe that could be its own story that could fit into the larger story.

00:40:43.000 Could we make something that was completely faithful to the books while also being completely faithful to the movies that you guys had already made?

00:40:52.000 And I started talking it over with my son, Peter, who's also a screenwriter.

00:40:57.000 And we worked out what we thought would work, especially as a framing device for that story.

00:41:02.000 And I don't even think he got to it, though, which is that so the framing device is going to be they say that Frodo is dead, which actually that was a debate we were having on the show earlier today.

00:41:12.000 Because does Frodo die or not in Lord of the Rings?

00:41:15.000 And the answer is he actually probably does.

00:41:16.000 People get mad when you point that out.

00:41:18.000 But anyway, Frodo is at least gone.

00:41:20.000 He has departed Middle Earth.

00:41:22.000 And then it's going to be that Sam and his daughter and like elderly Mary and Pippin are traveling and they discover some secret that like could have led to bad stuff happening.

00:41:35.000 And I guess we're just going to have, we might have a Hobbit girl boss girl bossing her way across Middle Earth.

00:41:40.000 No, I get that.

00:41:41.000 I get that that's the contention, but.

00:41:43.000 But just for clarity, so he said these were the first six chapters, but you're saying this is like a sequel?

00:41:50.000 I think it's going to be a framing device with Sam and his daughter and like elderly Marion Pippen, but it's going to be adapting in some manner the content early in Lord of the Rings with the Tom Bombadil weird barrow man stuff that didn't show in the movie because it's like weird.

00:42:12.000 So we have Charlie.

00:42:13.000 So it's going to be a sequel, but it's going to reference things.

00:42:16.000 That supposedly took place before the main movie.

00:42:18.000 Yeah, it's a sequel prequel.

00:42:21.000 That's what it is, pretty much.

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00:43:24.000 So, for fans of the show that watched for a while, you'll remember we had a Lord of the Rings conversation where Tyler suggested that Lord of the Rings was gay.

00:43:34.000 True story.

00:43:35.000 And then Charlie pushed back and he had this to say.

00:43:39.000 But by the way, when you watch this clip, I noticed it that Jack is trying not to yawn in it, which is really funny.

00:43:45.000 It's like this subtle, subtle, like Jack somehow kept himself in the same way.

00:43:50.000 Unless he was yawning or not.

00:43:51.000 Unless he was trying to sneeze.

00:43:53.000 We can debate that.

00:43:54.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:43:55.000 Okay.

00:43:56.000 Sot 15.

00:43:56.000 I could not be in more agreement with Blake.

00:43:58.000 I think Lord of the Rings is one of the greatest artistic accomplishments of the species.

00:44:03.000 I love that.

00:44:03.000 Can you zoom in on that, like, Jack face?

00:44:06.000 No.

00:44:07.000 No!

00:44:09.000 They pulled it just because they wanted the water.

00:44:11.000 You don't need to zoom in on that.

00:44:12.000 They wanted the water.

00:44:13.000 The weird thing is, that's like me, and I hadn't taken any strong cells, so there's like no hair apart.

00:44:17.000 Yeah, right.

00:44:18.000 I look like a strong cell.

00:44:20.000 It's pre-strong cell.

00:44:21.000 When Carly was talking, I thought they were doing the solo camera on him.

00:44:27.000 I thought I was off camera.

00:44:28.000 Jack was just like.

00:44:30.000 I've been there, though, man.

00:44:31.000 When you're hosting the show, it's really tough sometimes with the sneezes.

00:44:37.000 When I was younger, I was an altar boy.

00:44:40.000 In church.

00:44:41.000 And I always used to yawn during Mass.

00:44:44.000 It would just come up, and my parents would eventually get to the point where they would like, we would get done, and they would come up, and my dad would just be like, 11.

00:44:53.000 And then the next day, my mom would be like, 12.

00:44:55.000 Yeah, we counted all your yawns.

00:44:56.000 And I'm like, I don't know why I'm doing it.

00:44:58.000 But what I think I was trying to do there, you're right, it was definitely yawning, was you put your tongue on the roof of your mouth, and supposedly that helps you from.

00:45:09.000 Opening your mouth all the way because something with, like, I guess this is kind of like a form of mewing, so it's anti yawning mewing.

00:45:16.000 And I was trying to do it there, and it was, man, I think I failed.

00:45:20.000 I think I failed that time.

00:45:23.000 Oh, wait.

00:45:25.000 Zuzu's petals just smacked me upside the head.

00:45:28.000 This is a good point.

00:45:29.000 He ignored the illegitimate grandchild number seven.

00:45:31.000 I assume that's Biden's best trait.

00:45:33.000 Well, because I said Biden's best trait was he seemed to love his family.

00:45:36.000 Oh, yeah.

00:45:38.000 That's a super.

00:45:39.000 This is why it's such a hard question.

00:45:41.000 Even when you're trying to be generous.

00:45:43.000 I met her, man.

00:45:43.000 I met Navy.

00:45:45.000 I actually met her once.

00:45:46.000 That was wild.

00:45:47.000 That was wild.

00:45:48.000 Angelo points out a good thing.

00:45:50.000 Does the world need more Lord of the Rings content?

00:45:52.000 And I'd say that's a highly valid question because I feel compared to every.

00:45:58.000 Big franchise that people get obsessed with: Star Wars, Marvel, James Bond, anything.

00:46:03.000 Does Lord of the Rings have the most consistently bad content that is anything that's not the Peter Jackson trilogy?

00:46:09.000 Like the Hobbit movies were bad.

00:46:11.000 Most of the video games are really bad.

00:46:13.000 I mean, I feel like the first Hobbit movie is fantastic.

00:46:16.000 The first Hobbit movie is not fantastic.

00:46:17.000 It has a fantastic song.

00:46:19.000 It is literally the Lonely Mountain song.

00:46:21.000 No, the Amazon one is trash.

00:46:23.000 Absolute garbage.

00:46:24.000 Jack, we have a zoom-up on your yawn.

00:46:26.000 We have a zoom-in on the yawn.

00:46:27.000 Every single Hobbit movie.

00:46:29.000 You don't need to do Zabruder film this.

00:46:32.000 Come on.

00:46:32.000 Back and to the left.

00:46:40.000 Suppressing the yawn.

00:46:41.000 There was a smell that was wafting.

00:46:44.000 Someone in the other room was cooking up some cow pie.

00:46:49.000 It's very subtle.

00:46:50.000 I'm not a bad whip of that.

00:46:51.000 No, honestly, it's very subtle.

00:46:52.000 If you actually had a real yawn there, Jack, I mean, I feel bad for the podcast.

00:46:56.000 We should move on because when they listen, they're going to be like.

00:46:58.000 I'm telling you, that's the tongue thing.

00:47:00.000 I'm putting the tongue on the roof of my mouth and I'm going, like.

00:47:03.000 All right.

00:47:04.000 You have to wrangle it down.

00:47:06.000 All right.

00:47:07.000 Who did it better, Gollum or Colbert?

00:47:09.000 Image 16.

00:47:11.000 Throw it up here.

00:47:13.000 Who did it better?

00:47:15.000 Absolutely Gollum.

00:47:17.000 Once again, the podcast folks have no idea what we're talking about because they just sort of have to say, Yeah, that's true.

00:47:21.000 That's true.

00:47:22.000 I press you.

00:47:23.000 No, but really, Lord of the Rings is, I do feel like Lord of the Rings doesn't hold up that well in its spin off material.

00:47:29.000 I have to say, I understand Tyler's kind of contention that it's a little effeminate.

00:47:35.000 There's something about Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings that does feel a little effeminate.

00:47:38.000 I know that Charlie loved it.

00:47:40.000 You loved it.

00:47:41.000 And I enjoyed it when it started.

00:47:43.000 I just, it is a little effeminate.

00:47:45.000 Wait, what is effeminate about Lord of the Rings?

00:47:48.000 Sam and Frodo's relationship.

00:47:49.000 That's not effeminate.

00:47:50.000 It's just bro casting.

00:47:52.000 Bro, a fellowship.

00:47:54.000 It's simply a fellowship of men who go into the woods to play with their ring.

00:48:01.000 It's totally straight.

00:48:03.000 I bet you watch Saving Private Ryan and all those dudes are hauled together.

00:48:09.000 They look so effeminate.

00:48:12.000 These girly men on Omaha Beach.

00:48:14.000 Oh, they're going to the beach?

00:48:15.000 What a romantic day.

00:48:17.000 I'm sorry.

00:48:18.000 If you're on a beach with only men, that's gay.

00:48:21.000 That's Andrew's take.

00:48:22.000 No, I, Band of Brothers and Saving Private Ryan, I got like misty eyed about that, okay?

00:48:30.000 That hits you in a different way because it's like elves are gay.

00:48:34.000 The elves are not gay?

00:48:35.000 A little.

00:48:35.000 First of all, a lot of the elves are just women.

00:48:38.000 That's true.

00:48:38.000 Galadriel is just a woman.

00:48:40.000 Well, that's not inherently.

00:48:41.000 The elves are a little effeminate, though.

00:48:43.000 Michael.

00:48:44.000 I'll rock with that.

00:48:46.000 So, Caboo says the hobbits are whimsical small creatures who garden and eat all day.

00:48:50.000 There's nothing at all about that.

00:48:52.000 They're just Merry England.

00:48:54.000 We're just going to have to agree to this.

00:48:56.000 No, we have to agree that you are incorrect.

00:48:58.000 No, I'm agreeing with Caboose.

00:49:00.000 The first Hobbit film is literally a shot for shot of the book.

00:49:05.000 The first one.

00:49:05.000 Yeah, except that the first Hobbit film also has an extended hour long video game that the audience isn't allowed to play.

00:49:11.000 Listen, I'm not here to judge.

00:49:14.000 I'm just saying.

00:49:15.000 I am.

00:49:15.000 I am here to judge.

00:49:16.000 I'm just a whimsical elves.

00:49:20.000 I do have a hot take on Lord of the Rings in general that I've gotten into it with.

00:49:24.000 Some folks about where this gets into, like, the so you guys know that J.R.R. Tolkien and C.S. Lewis were actually good friends in real life.

00:49:34.000 They were both professors of English at Oxford together.

00:49:37.000 And so Narnia and Lord of the Rings were, yeah, Russell is going.

00:49:42.000 Narnia and Lord of the Rings were, you know, kind of written almost not, you know, concurrently in a sense.

00:49:49.000 And Tolkien always said that he didn't like Narnia because he thought that it was too overtly Christian.

00:49:56.000 And I've heard people try to make the argument that Lord of the Rings is overtly Christian.

00:50:01.000 And I hate to burst the bubble, guys, but you're just wrong.

00:50:04.000 There's nothing overtly Christian about Lord of the Rings.

00:50:07.000 There's no church in it, there's no faith in it, there's no Christ figure, there's none of these things.

00:50:13.000 And honestly, Lord of the Rings, if it's anything, is overtly pagan.

00:50:20.000 Lord of the Rings is interesting actually because people will.

00:50:23.000 A weird thing about.

00:50:24.000 Did you know this about Lord of the Rings?

00:50:25.000 That Lord of the Rings does not take place on like a different planet or anything.

00:50:29.000 It takes place on Earth.

00:50:31.000 Middle Earth.

00:50:31.000 Yeah.

00:50:32.000 The claim, the conceit of Lord of the Rings is that it is literally just Earth 10,000 years ago.

00:50:38.000 And there's a different map and all of that because, you know, the continents have shifted.

00:50:43.000 It's supposed to be a mythology for Earth.

00:50:46.000 Yes.

00:50:46.000 The same way that Greek mythology and so forth.

00:50:48.000 So, like, in Lord of the Rings, they don't really talk about it, but there is a god, Ru, Luvatar, who is just God.

00:50:54.000 It is just Argon.

00:50:55.000 Sauron is the devil.

00:50:57.000 Basically.

00:50:57.000 And it's like they have different names for it and all of that.

00:51:00.000 The orcs are demons.

00:51:01.000 Yes.

00:51:02.000 I mean, I don't know.

00:51:03.000 I think Lord of the Rings, when I haven't watched it in so long, but it felt overtly Christian to me, actually.

00:51:11.000 The themes, but I mean, I'm sure.

00:51:14.000 Listen, I haven't watched it for a long time.

00:51:16.000 Maybe I'll reserve judgment.

00:51:17.000 Yeah, I think there is something to be said that your themes can be overtly Christian while the actual content doesn't feel like it's not a.

00:51:27.000 Allegory the way that Narnia is, but the themes are overtly like Christmas darkness, good versus evil.

00:51:33.000 Yeah.

00:51:34.000 Jackie, I feel like you have good versus evil.

00:51:36.000 I'm not saying that.

00:51:37.000 I'm not saying it's not a cool story, but it is also overtly pagan.

00:51:41.000 Like the content is obviously pagan because you have like demons and you have like a pantheon of powerful creatures and figures, which you, it's to your point, like you just said, it's much more like Greek mythology or Norse mythology or, um, uh, You know, Slavic folk mythology than it has to do with a Christian story.

00:52:04.000 I'm all right, guys.

00:52:06.000 You know what I realized?

00:52:07.000 The fact that Lord of the Rings appealed to Colbert is proof enough that it's probably.

00:52:12.000 Hold on, hold on.

00:52:13.000 I asked, here's what I asked, guys.

00:52:15.000 Because C.S. Lewis made more Christians that Tolkien and Lord of the Rings, you get these guys, you get these libtards like Colbert who like love it.

00:52:24.000 And if this thing is like, oh, it's overtly Christian, I'm like, well, then why does a guy like Colbert love it so much?

00:52:30.000 Yeah, very into his Catholicism, to be fair.

00:52:32.000 But C.S. Lucas, except for the part where he can't abort babies.

00:52:35.000 What?

00:52:35.000 Except for the part where you can't abort babies.

00:52:37.000 That's a good point.

00:52:39.000 C.S. Lucas is also an apology.

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00:53:55.000 All right.

00:53:56.000 So I asked, the only way we can resolve this is I asked the lib AI Claude and the conservative AI Grok whether Lord of the Rings was gay.

00:54:03.000 And Grok says, no, Lord of the Rings is not gay in any meaningful sense, neither as a story, nor in its themes, nor in its characters, nor in its intent.

00:54:13.000 It's a straight up pun intended epic of good versus evil.

00:54:17.000 It literally says it is a straight up pun intended.

00:54:20.000 While Claude, the lib AI, says it takes that nuanced angle, Peter Jackson's adaptations lean into the emotional intimacy pretty heavily, which has amplified queer readings for a new generation of fans.

00:54:35.000 Many LGBTQ readers and literary scholars have embraced Frodo and Sam, and to a lesser extent, Legolas and Gimli, as queer coded or representing love that transcends the heteronormative.

00:54:47.000 That said, they do note that Tolkien actually modeled Frodo and Sam.

00:54:51.000 After the relationship between officers and their Batmen in World War I. Batman being kind of servants to an officer in a military context.

00:55:01.000 To be fair, Elijah Wood's portrayal of Frodo is a little effeminate.

00:55:07.000 Yes.

00:55:07.000 To be fair.

00:55:08.000 But this reminds me of Lincoln, right?

00:55:11.000 Lincoln, I didn't think he'd share a bed with a childhood friend or before he was married, basically.

00:55:18.000 But that was.

00:55:19.000 Andrew, you're thinking of yourself.

00:55:21.000 Yeah.

00:55:25.000 I'm upset on that one.

00:55:26.000 Yeah, I'm saying it.

00:55:28.000 Zuzu asked me, and she made another joke.

00:55:29.000 You're really on a roll today, Zuzu.

00:55:31.000 But here's the thing.

00:55:32.000 So there's all these rumors about Lincoln that he's gay, but he wasn't gay.

00:55:36.000 He was a wife guy, and it's actually a pretty sad wife guy because his wife was not very nice.

00:55:41.000 Well, she was psycho and she treated him like crap, and he was always really kind of worked up because his wife was throwing temper tantrums and stuff.

00:55:48.000 But there is.

00:55:51.000 My point is that there is a.

00:55:53.000 Yeah, you can.

00:55:55.000 Have intimate male friendships without them being gay.

00:55:58.000 Okay, established fact number one.

00:56:00.000 But what's funny is that when that happens, it can actually be a really, you know, it'd be a good thing, really positive thing.

00:56:07.000 But the world is such that it will always take that and assume that it's gay.

00:56:10.000 And you see that with Lincoln.

00:56:11.000 Lincoln's story was not gay, but now there's this attempt to rewrite the history around Lincoln that he was gay.

00:56:17.000 Zuzu asks Did Tolkien and C.S. Lewis end their friendship over Christianity?

00:56:22.000 No, I wanted to debunk that because obviously they were both Christian.

00:56:26.000 Tolkien was butthurt that when Lewis became a Christian, he became an Anglican instead of becoming a Catholic like Tolkien was.

00:56:34.000 I think they did have a pretty severe falling out, but it wasn't over Christianity.

00:56:38.000 It was over, I believe, C.S. Lewis's wife.

00:56:40.000 I think Tolkien didn't like her very much.

00:56:42.000 Really?

00:56:44.000 But I am not an expert on that one.

00:56:46.000 I don't believe they were ever enemies or anything.

00:56:48.000 I think they just went through phases of grief.

00:56:50.000 A grief that deserves when his wife died.

00:56:52.000 It was a really tragic book.

00:56:54.000 I've read it.

00:56:55.000 Anyways.

00:56:56.000 All right.

00:56:56.000 We got to get to this.

00:56:58.000 Wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:56:59.000 Real quick on that.

00:57:00.000 Just since we're on the topic.

00:57:01.000 I always try to bring this up whenever I can so I can get into trouble.

00:57:04.000 And I'd love to court controversy on this.

00:57:06.000 So I don't think that Lord of the Rings is queer coded.

00:57:09.000 I don't think it is.

00:57:10.000 However, I do think that there is one piece of children's media that is extremely queer coded.

00:57:17.000 And the director and even one of the main stars have admitted this.

00:57:21.000 It's a Disney movie and it's called Frozen.

00:57:24.000 Yes, that's right.

00:57:26.000 Frozen is absolutely queer coded.

00:57:29.000 It is two females.

00:57:31.000 Oh, I know you're going to say, oh, they're sisters.

00:57:33.000 No, no, no, no.

00:57:34.000 I'm saying if you actually look at the story, it's about the sisterhood.

00:57:37.000 It is very anti male.

00:57:39.000 Every man in it is like either the enemy or a liar or a dullard or someone who's stupid.

00:57:45.000 And it's about, you know, we women bind together through the power of our relationship against the men of the world.

00:57:52.000 And I believe there's also a gay character when they go to the sauna as well.

00:57:55.000 That's just feminist, though.

00:57:57.000 It's not necessarily.

00:57:57.000 It's like feminist.

00:57:58.000 No, I'm telling you, it's totally queer coded.

00:58:00.000 Totally queer coded.

00:58:01.000 Wait, what happens with the dude who's like a nice salesman?

00:58:04.000 Yeah, he ends up getting the younger sister.

00:58:07.000 Yeah, doesn't he?

00:58:08.000 He gets them, I'm telling you, though.

00:58:09.000 But it's, it is, that's what I'm saying.

00:58:11.000 I'm saying it's different, not overtly, but it is coded.

00:58:11.000 It's coded.

00:58:14.000 And Idina Menzel has come out and said this, who did the voice of the main character.

00:58:21.000 And gosh, I can't think of it.

00:58:23.000 Whatever, you know her name, the Frozen Chick.

00:58:25.000 And the director has said it as well.

00:58:28.000 So that's why Let It Go is seen as a queer anthem in the LGBT community.

00:58:35.000 Just be gay, just be gay.

00:58:37.000 No, so Fazio says, I mean, if Frozen is gay, Then Lord of the Rings is Elton John.

00:58:43.000 Elsa.

00:58:43.000 So, yeah, Elsa.

00:58:45.000 No, Lord of the Rings is not queer coded because there's no intent.

00:58:48.000 But in Frozen, there is.

00:58:51.000 I can't aggressively weigh in on whether Frozen is gay because, unlike Jack, I do not watch it at least three times a week.

00:58:58.000 You had that.

00:58:59.000 I think I've only seen it once.

00:59:00.000 Probably not all the way through.

00:59:01.000 Well, listen, I have watched it once.

00:59:02.000 You mean today?

00:59:03.000 There was a promotion.

00:59:03.000 I've only watched it once today, Josh.

00:59:05.000 Go look it up.

00:59:06.000 Go look it up.

00:59:07.000 The people who made it said it's queer coded.

00:59:09.000 Yeah, but the people who make everything in Hollywood say it's queer coded.

00:59:11.000 They say, like, everything.

00:59:12.000 That's how you keep getting jobs in Hollywood.

00:59:14.000 Yeah, they definitely get jobs, if you know what I mean.

00:59:16.000 It's called Jobs.

00:59:17.000 11 year olds.

00:59:18.000 It's the PG 13 program.

00:59:18.000 PG 13.

00:59:20.000 All right.

00:59:21.000 I really have to get to this show, this story of the quadruple amputee murderer.

00:59:29.000 It was one of those stories where everyone sees the headline and does a double take and goes, Excuse me?

00:59:35.000 And I shared this with my wife, and she was like, Wait, what?

00:59:37.000 And I was like, There's video.

00:59:39.000 And I was like, Not of the murder, but of this guy shooting a weapon.

00:59:45.000 He can cock the gun and point it and shoot it with, I guess he's got kind of a little nut.

00:59:52.000 It's a headline that you just have to embrace.

00:59:55.000 This is the headline I saw on NBC Quadruple Amputee and Cornhole Pro.

01:00:01.000 Accused of fatally shooting man while driving.

01:00:04.000 It's like an SDR.

01:00:05.000 There's so many things.

01:00:06.000 Yeah, there he is.

01:00:07.000 That's him.

01:00:08.000 That's him on his YouTube account.

01:00:10.000 He is blasting away with that gun, and that man has no hands.

01:00:14.000 Look at.

01:00:15.000 I would be terrified if I was him of accidentally shooting off.

01:00:19.000 Wait.

01:00:21.000 Do we have a vehicle of him climbing up to the tree?

01:00:24.000 Yeah, I know.

01:00:25.000 There's not much less.

01:00:26.000 Oh, gosh, look at it.

01:00:27.000 This guy is cooler than I am.

01:00:29.000 I mean, period.

01:00:30.000 Like, straight up, a little bit of respect for.

01:00:33.000 His zest for life as a quadruple amputee.

01:00:35.000 Apparently, he had some illness as a kid, and they had to amputate all four limbs in order to save his life.

01:00:44.000 And then he, I mean, we've got clips on this guy.

01:00:48.000 So let's start with.

01:00:52.000 Yeah, I mean, I haven't seen that one, so that's interesting.

01:00:54.000 Let's start with, I guess, SOT 19.

01:00:58.000 Who is Dayton Weber?

01:01:00.000 Dayton Weber is a beast.

01:01:02.000 He's strong.

01:01:04.000 He's determined.

01:01:06.000 To me, that's like beast mode, you know?

01:01:08.000 He just got sick like any other normal kid.

01:01:10.000 Take him to the hospital and find out that it had gotten to be a bacterial infection.

01:01:15.000 Grave danger is the word they used all the time.

01:01:20.000 Dayton was diagnosed with a bacterial infection that led to sepsis.

01:01:26.000 The bacteria using his bloodstream as a tool to attack his organs.

01:01:30.000 They suggested that he be baptized and given his last rites.

01:01:39.000 That just didn't enter my thought that I was gonna lose them.

01:01:44.000 To prevent the infection from spreading, doctors amputated Dayton's extremities, both arms and legs.

01:01:55.000 That is like really sad.

01:01:56.000 Yeah.

01:01:57.000 But that guy didn't let it hold him back.

01:01:58.000 That's one of the saddest things I've ever seen.

01:02:01.000 He committed felonies that most fully limbed people can never dream of.

01:02:07.000 Allegedly.

01:02:08.000 I hate that because it makes me feel all the sympathy for me.

01:02:11.000 And then, like, the story of the murder is.

01:02:15.000 The murder is like crazy.

01:02:16.000 So he's just sitting in his Tesla.

01:02:18.000 He's got two people in the back.

01:02:19.000 Dayton Weber was behind the wheel when he opened fire on Bradrick Michael Wells during an argument as they were traveling in a car in the town of La Plata.

01:02:30.000 And then Weber allegedly pulled over and asked the backseat passengers to help pull Wells out of the car.

01:02:35.000 They refused and instead flagged down La Plata police.

01:02:39.000 There's nothing this man can't do except how slow he is.

01:02:43.000 How slow do his friends have to be?

01:02:45.000 To allow him to get shots off in the car.

01:02:48.000 That's what I'm thinking.

01:02:49.000 That's my question.

01:02:50.000 And you kind of wonder about the lead up with the guy, like, he's not going to do it.

01:02:54.000 He probably, like, the passenger probably didn't know that he could pull it off.

01:02:58.000 Or maybe he did.

01:03:00.000 I don't know.

01:03:01.000 Jack, you've got to save us.

01:03:03.000 I don't know which way to go here.

01:03:05.000 Weber competes in the American.

01:03:07.000 At the end of the day, you can say, you can certainly say that you have to look out for an unarmed man.

01:03:17.000 Weber competes in the American Cornhole League, which called this case an extremely serious matter.

01:03:25.000 That's what I can say.

01:03:27.000 You just got to give him a hand.

01:03:30.000 Oscar Pistorius sort of walked so that this man could kind of run.

01:03:35.000 Okay, that's pretty good.

01:03:38.000 I did get it from a nice tweet.

01:03:40.000 I guess you could say there's a crime afoot.

01:03:43.000 Oh, Jack.

01:03:49.000 The studio.

01:03:49.000 You know what they?

01:03:50.000 You know what they say?

01:03:51.000 He's got to stand on his own two legs.

01:03:55.000 Shit.

01:03:57.000 This is disgraceful.

01:03:58.000 I'm sorry.

01:04:00.000 This has really gone off the rails.

01:04:03.000 This is gone.

01:04:05.000 I'm trying to think of a good arm or leg pun.

01:04:08.000 I feel like this segment doesn't have much of a leg to stand on.

01:04:11.000 All right.

01:04:11.000 So, wait, he could shoot a rifle, too?

01:04:13.000 Hold on.

01:04:14.000 Wait, what did you say?

01:04:15.000 This case doesn't have a leg to stand on.

01:04:17.000 Oh, there you go.

01:04:19.000 Cut 24 is Dayton Weber shooting a rifle.

01:04:22.000 I didn't see this one.

01:04:30.000 That second shot a little better, don't you?

01:04:32.000 Yeah, yeah, uh huh.

01:04:39.000 I just got to shoot it one time first.

01:04:42.000 That gun is nasty, heck yeah, too hard for sure.

01:04:46.000 No doubt.

01:04:49.000 I'm genuinely sad that this guy did murder someone because it really actually is genuinely inspiring to see those clips and you feel bad about how it all ended.

01:04:56.000 Because I think there's a lot of people out there who would say, I would rather die than live that way, and like he did seem to have a pretty Rich life, other than the murdering people part.

01:05:08.000 Yeah, and you kind of wonder did the trauma of what he went through as a child scar him?

01:05:14.000 Did it traumatize him in some way that made him do this?

01:05:19.000 I don't know.

01:05:20.000 The whole story really, watching his parents talk about him and seeing him as a baby with the arms, I cannot imagine being a parent and seeing that happen to my kid.

01:05:31.000 I just can't.

01:05:32.000 So it's a really tragic ending to it.

01:05:34.000 You know what they say?

01:05:35.000 You know what they say, though?

01:05:36.000 People with disabilities can do anything.

01:05:40.000 In 2023, the American Cornhole League called Weber unstoppable.

01:05:45.000 And they said that he is a shining example of our slogan anyone can play, anyone can win.

01:05:51.000 He was also able to, he taught himself to write, race go karts, and compete in Cornhole.

01:05:57.000 Weber says that Cornhole taught him to take challenges as they come each day.

01:06:03.000 Wait a minute, wait a minute, Blake.

01:06:06.000 He should take the stand himself in the trial because then the judge will say, place your hand on the Bible.

01:06:11.000 Oh, wait.

01:06:13.000 It's a technicality.

01:06:14.000 They won't be able to.

01:06:16.000 I thought you were hitting him with that one, too.

01:06:18.000 Yeah, I mean, listen, it's a sad story.

01:06:23.000 I don't think I'm going to get over the picture of the kids.

01:06:25.000 Once you have kids, everything changes.

01:06:27.000 I'm sure Jack will appreciate this.

01:06:31.000 Watching gory movies, for example, is way harder.

01:06:34.000 Watching anything in a movie happen to a kid, watching any of these stories.

01:06:38.000 I can't watch any movie if there's a kid.

01:06:40.000 I guess in the new, whatever the last Michael Myers movie is, when Jamie Lee Curtis came back, there's something that the kid dies.

01:06:47.000 And it's like a babysitter, like, accidentally throws him off the stairs and he dies in like the first five minutes.

01:06:54.000 And I was just like, I can't, I couldn't even watch the rest of it after that.

01:06:57.000 Just couldn't do it.

01:06:58.000 No, no.

01:06:59.000 So this whole story sucks.

01:07:03.000 But it did give some great fodder to the folks online.

01:07:07.000 The comments on this were legitimately funny.

01:07:10.000 They were laugh out loud, laugh funny.

01:07:14.000 Yeah.

01:07:16.000 Wait, is Jack going to claim the quadruple amputees are gay also?

01:07:19.000 No, no.

01:07:20.000 Jack didn't do anything.

01:07:22.000 I mean, he did.

01:07:23.000 He was literally obsessed with holes.

01:07:25.000 He was a professional.

01:07:26.000 Do we have the cornhole?

01:07:27.000 He professionally puts 11 year olds.

01:07:30.000 11 year olds.

01:07:31.000 Clip.

01:07:31.000 It says clip 20.

01:07:32.000 That's a great book.

01:07:34.000 What's wrong with that?

01:07:35.000 It's a clip 20.

01:07:37.000 Fazio, whatever.

01:07:38.000 Newberry Award.

01:07:40.000 Let's play him talking about playing cornhole.

01:07:44.000 We're here at my house.

01:07:46.000 This is where I practice my cornhole.

01:07:48.000 Cornhole has been a passion of mine since I was.

01:07:53.000 Eight years old, you know, thrown in the backyard with my parents, friends, and stuff.

01:07:59.000 At first, it took me a little while to get it there to the board consistently.

01:08:05.000 I was able to compensate the grip on the bag by just grabbing the corner of it with me propelling myself forward and the whip of the bag.

01:08:14.000 That's how I get it there.

01:08:17.000 That guy's better at cornhole than I am.

01:08:19.000 A lot better.

01:08:19.000 I mean, he's in the professional cornhole.

01:08:21.000 He's better at murdering people than you are, too, which is.

01:08:25.000 Man.

01:08:25.000 But to be fair, Blake has a pride that we know of.

01:08:28.000 That we know of.

01:08:29.000 Man.

01:08:31.000 Gosh.

01:08:31.000 Why did this guy have to go kill somebody?

01:08:33.000 We should have had him on Thought Crime before he did that.

01:08:37.000 He's actually such an inspiration, except.

01:08:41.000 Unfortunately.

01:08:43.000 All right.

01:08:44.000 Well, good.

01:08:45.000 Now we're all.

01:08:45.000 It's a great downer.

01:08:47.000 Really good job, production.

01:08:48.000 Probably because your disabilities get in the way of your dreams.

01:08:52.000 So there you go.

01:08:54.000 All right.

01:08:54.000 Well, listen, Jack, have a great time at CPAC.

01:08:58.000 Tell us, keep the vibe up.

01:09:01.000 Keep enjoying it.

01:09:03.000 Yeah.

01:09:05.000 And yeah, why don't you take us home?

01:09:08.000 Sign us off and take us home.

01:09:09.000 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, go out there and commit more thought crime.

01:09:19.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - March 28, 2026

THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 120 — AI President? 42-Year-Old Soldiers? Pagan Lord of the Rings?

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