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00:01:17.000These days, we seem to spend so much of our time and energy surviving and reacting to the unhappy events and the strife and the conflict in our overcrowded world.
00:01:25.000But the bicentennials seem to awaken a certain feeling, a rather dormant spirit that too often seems to be missing from our modern life.
00:01:32.000Call it patriotism, call it a rebirth of pride, call it whatever you will.
00:01:36.000But if you mingled with the crowds who watched Upsale and the fireworks yesterday, Or came down for a last fling like these people at the South Street seaport this afternoon, you might have felt what we did a great sense of joy and well being.
00:01:49.000For the first time in many years, New Yorkers of all ages and backgrounds out in force, celebrating together.
00:01:55.000It reminded you of a small town celebration of the 4th of July, an idealized Norman Rockwell tableau.
00:02:01.000Only it wasn't a small town scene, not with these hundreds of thousands out to see the ships.
00:02:06.000Young families, older people, in many cases grandparents, parents, children, celebrating together.
00:02:12.000And if you talk, To them, you found they articulated what your eyes were seeing a patriotic euphoria, bitter, angry, controversial years forgotten at least for this moment.
00:03:50.000I just want to remind everybody that that video might seem nice and nice, but then they marched down to the polling booth and they elected Jimmy Carter right after that.
00:04:05.000How wet that's because one of the major reasons that Ford was, that Ford lost in 1976 was that America still believed the lie that, you know, that Nixon was worthy of impeachment and that Ford had pardoned Nixon.
00:04:24.000And so they were sort of just mad at Ford over that.
00:04:26.000But my point is, the way that we can be better than.
00:04:30.000In the 250 celebration is to make this 250 celebration so big and so impactful that we win midterms.
00:05:01.000Yeah, I've been talking about this on X like all day.
00:05:05.000And this all started actually with my mom, believe it or not, because she wrote an op ed and she was talking about this to me the other day because she went to Valley Forge for the 250th, or excuse me, the 200th, the bicentennial in 1976 and rode horses in the end of the wagon train there when Gerald Ford came.
00:05:24.000And that's when Valley Forge Park was, it had been a state park for its entire history up until 1976 and Ford came and Designated a federal park, so this year will be the 50th anniversary of it becoming a federal park, and it's kind of wild that it wasn't a national park prior to that, but anyway.
00:05:39.000Um, and she just always told all these stories about how it was so big, how it was such a huge deal that there were covered wagons from all 50 of the 50 states there.
00:05:50.000I have no idea how they got Alaska and Hawaii, but that's what she said.
00:05:54.000And she was surprised at how this year it seems kind of muted.
00:05:59.000And what she was saying is that it wasn't so much about that the president.
00:06:02.000You know, isn't doing anything and there aren't, you know, these events going on, but just that the general mood of the country doesn't seem to be as swept up in the anniversary as it was 50 years ago.
00:06:15.000And that's kind of what I wanted to get into.
00:06:18.000So it's not a knock on anything the president's doing.
00:06:21.000It's just that in 1976, you saw this massive grassroots outpouring of love and national pride for the country.
00:06:30.000You know, after time, as we just said, you know, we saw a president.
00:06:33.000We saw the Vietnam War had, you know, was just kind of coming to an end back then.
00:06:38.000So there was a lot of tumultuous activity going on in the country, but there was something about that spirit of 76 that really took off in the bicentennial that we're just kind of not seeing this time around.
00:06:51.000It's more, it feels like it's more top down.
00:06:52.000Well, I think a big reason it would have felt different.
00:06:56.000I'm looking at the numbers over time, and this is something that's been pointed out a lot.
00:07:00.000The percentage of Americans who were born abroad in 1976 was Almost the lowest it had ever been in American history.
00:07:43.000Sorry, white people are more into like the patriotism thing.
00:07:46.000Yeah, but also in an American country.
00:07:48.000Yeah, but also black Americans have been American all year long.
00:07:50.000It was, by the way, just to be clear, black Americans, I disagree with them politically mostly, but I can, I mean, listen, you cannot tell the American story if you just tell the white story.
00:08:04.000As much as it's been absolutely bastardized, and the Tuskegee Airmen were like not, you know, at all as, you know, talented fighters as the movies.
00:09:12.000You got to remember World War II, right?
00:09:14.000So my dad is in his early 20s in 1976.
00:09:19.000He was raised going to high school, elementary school.
00:09:24.000All of his teachers were World War II vets.
00:09:28.000His college professors were World War II vets.
00:09:31.000There was nothing, I think, those of us who didn't live through it, I think we fail to probably understand just how unifying winning World War II was for the body politic, for the culture.
00:10:15.000Where it was like status, education, like male to female.
00:10:19.000It turns out when the males in your culture, status wise, earnings wise, education wise, is higher than the females, you get a crap ton of babies.
00:10:55.000And it's because all the guys who made it had served in the military in World War II.
00:10:58.000And it's like, even when they go on missions and the way they talk to each other, you can tell it's written by, and it's in a lot of media from that time frame.
00:11:09.000Yeah, you can tell that it's written by people who are actually drawing on their own experiences.
00:11:17.000I think Kurt Vonnegut was actually in the bombing of Dresden.
00:11:22.000And there's a ton of just authors and writers who reached back to Orwell, of course, was the Spanish Civil War, but who were drawing on their own experiences that led to that.
00:11:34.000And so it was this massive, forged nation forging event, like World War II.
00:11:45.000And that's a picture of Valley Forge right there.
00:11:48.000You actually see a Confederate flag in that photo, which is kind of interesting that, like, that was an event that the president was going to, and nobody had a problem with the Confederate flag being there.
00:11:55.000In this image, you can actually see Gerald Ford in one of the Conestoga wagons.
00:13:02.000And then we don't have this galvanizing, victorious, triumphant event just 25 years in our past, namely World War II, where we defeated the Nazis and tyranny and the Japanese.
00:13:12.000Instead, we've got, you know, our boomers, our Vietnam vet eras, right?
00:13:24.000And the cost of living is through the roof.
00:13:26.000And there's all of these, you know, there's a sense of national decline, whether it's warranted or not.
00:13:33.000There is a sense of national decline that is pervasive.
00:13:37.000And so all of these things mix into this goo, this soup.
00:13:41.000And I do think it's going to be muted.
00:13:43.000The other thing that I would just like to add is that, you know, back in the day when we had a president that wasn't the party that you were, so if we had a Democrat and you were registered Republican, There was still a sense that he's your president.
00:13:55.000Now we do this game, he's not my president.
00:13:57.000So half the country is instantly turned off to the 250 because Donald Trump happens to be president right now.
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00:18:10.000So those images you're looking at with Gerald Ford there, he's already pretty unpopular as a president in those images of Ford speaking at Valley Forge.
00:19:46.000I've known it's dumb, but the villainization of white America by the progressive left is literally one of the most retarded things.
00:19:54.000It doesn't hold up statistically, it doesn't hold up anecdotally, it doesn't hold up economically, it doesn't hold up in any way, shape, or form.
00:20:02.000Actually, white Americans tend to be pretty darn good citizens, and the country's lucky to have.
00:20:08.000Like a vibrant, you know, robust white, uh, you know, population.
00:20:14.000Uh, so, so, and go look at, yeah, I was gonna say, go look at those images, go look at the images again.
00:20:20.000There's, you know, does that look like a problem, right?
00:20:23.000There's always so much lying about the left where they say, like, oh, people weren't patriotic in the past.
00:20:32.000And it's like, this is something where there are people who I'm sure there are people watching the show, there are people who remember it that have living memory of, of, Of this America and being this patriotic and having American bicentennial fever just took over.
00:20:46.000And I was taking, and I'd love to throw out to the chat, you know, do you guys, if you can remember it, do you, what do you remember about the bicentennial?
00:20:54.000I remember growing up with like bicentennial quarters was a big deal.
00:20:57.000They made that was like the first special edition of the quarter that was made.
00:21:01.000Now they kind of do it like every year.
00:21:03.000No offense to Secretary Besant, but you know, it's just, it's just not as cool because it's like the first one that the first time it happened.
00:21:09.000Like every company was doing something.
00:21:12.000Literally every company, you know, patriotic Zippo lighters, and which were made in the USA.
00:21:18.000I don't know if they're still made in the USA, but it's just on and on and on.
00:21:23.000Whereas today, it's sort of like, you know, I think Coke is doing cups.
00:21:27.000You know, that's one thing I've seen at like my kids' little league games.
00:21:30.000But other than that, it just feels very top down.
00:21:34.000Well, we've had some hits to the brand.
00:21:38.000You know, that's just, you know, that's the bottom line.
00:22:25.000If you just look at the graphs that Blake had just up, I mean, America was pretty consistent with its foreign born population.
00:22:37.000And then obviously hit a huge spike in the Reagan decision.
00:22:41.000And then 1990, people, the next people look, everybody goes to Hart Cellar, which was big.
00:22:48.000But 1990 might have been like just fundamentally bigger because we went from 500,000 green cards a year to 1.2 million.
00:22:55.000And we've just been going on that race since 1990.
00:22:57.000And then it's just been increasing ever since.
00:22:59.000And during the Obama years, I mean, obviously, the Democrats figured out during the Obama years that eight years was so devastating for America because they figured out all the things that they could do within the framework of the Constitution to fundamentally change America.
00:23:17.000And that goes to packing the Supreme Court.
00:23:22.000You know, basically starting with Holder and Co.
00:23:26.000The redistricting games, you know, part of the everybody's like, you ask any old person, be like, hey, did you ever even, or were you even aware about redistricting?
00:23:36.000This is, these are now games, gamesmanship that was basically conducted.
00:23:41.000Again, Eric Holder and Co initiated this entire process.
00:23:46.000The concept of flooding the country with illegals, you know, to change how redistricting is impacted is the primary, I believe, the primary reason why we have such an increase.
00:24:00.000In foreign born, you know, foreign born nationals that are coming to the country, you have a huge amount of things that have now changed.
00:24:10.000That now you talk about your California, the top two primary system, you talk about ranked choice voting.
00:24:18.000I mean, again, we lived 250 years in this country, most of these ideas have sprung up in the last 15 years, and really, they got judicial activism is another thing, and they really got the national injunctions, the lawfare.
00:24:34.000And they got their legs again under Eric Holder and co.
00:24:40.000Everything got changed during the Obama administration.
00:24:45.000So, I mean, if you don't like the direction America is going, and lots of people, I've heard lots of people complain.
00:24:49.000They're like, well, I don't like that Republicans are engaging in the redistricting fights, or, you know, I don't even know why we're talking about X, Y, and Z.
00:24:57.000It's like, well, because all of this was brought to the forefront because Democrats, really bad Democrats, radical Democrats who want to hijack the government, We were put into positions of power during the Obama administration.
00:27:11.000And I'd say it also matters that I think they come from overall more alien cultures.
00:27:16.000And it's a lot easier to avoid assimilating today because you can, if you're, if you move here now from, let's say, India, now you can be on social media from India.
00:27:37.000And, and you have fewer vectors that would cause you to assimilate because if you're an immigrant here 100 years ago, it's going to be aggressively pushed that you need to know English, but also you'll probably be Christian.
00:28:54.000You had the Great Depression, and you had World War II.
00:28:57.000Galvanized the nation and reforged a national identity.
00:29:02.000But the big problem was that it created this myth.
00:29:05.000The myth was, we're a nation of immigrants.
00:29:09.000And that myth has blown open the doors to this even more alien cultures from the American core culture.
00:29:16.000And the question is, can you assimilate cultures that are so alien, that don't share your religion, that don't share a love of Western civilization or inherent understanding of it?
00:29:26.000I mean, I didn't say this when we were having this conversation earlier.
00:29:31.000Because I brought this up on my show on Human Events, but you know, and I hate doing the whole like, oh, well, my wife.
00:29:39.000But so, you know, speaking as a guy who does live with a family where I have a wife who is an immigrant and has children whose mother is an immigrant.
00:29:54.000And I know she listens to the show every week.
00:29:58.000It's, I just got to say it though, you know, she loves this country.
00:30:02.000She is totally assimilated to this country, not just patriotically, though, but also culturally and in terms of her background.
00:30:11.000And for our kids, when they're going around, you know, playing Little League or whatever, they have no problem whatsoever fitting in, even though they are, in a sense, first generation immigrants.
00:30:23.000And they don't run into that experience that many of the people who, you know, cite issues of alienation and isolation.
00:30:32.000Run into as first generation immigrants because just because she's from Europe and because the majority of people in America are from Europe.
00:30:42.000And Andrew, to your point, that it's actually okay to say that and it's actually okay to have immigration from Europe.
00:30:50.000And yet, for some strange reason, all of the Hartzeller and 1990s and other immigration policies have always attempted to dilute the level of that population.
00:31:02.000Yet, I just know from, again, anecdotal personal experience.
00:31:06.000That when, you know, if someone comes over from Europe and wants to settle down here and have a family, it's seamless.
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00:32:06.000Not all immigration is bad, even though I'm very much pro-net zero immigration moratorium.
00:32:12.000Because at this point, we can't get what we want.
00:32:15.000You can't get cultures that are easily assimilable.
00:32:22.000Because, you know, the Democrats are not going to do anything.
00:32:23.000That being said, Blake craps on Eastern European food, and he's just completely wrong.
00:33:52.000So many, many moons ago, a Polish American.
00:33:56.000Not hyphenated, an American of Polish descent named Jack Posobiec lamented repeatedly online about the fall of a once great American institution.
00:34:11.000And that institution used to be the gathering point of American families, rich and poor, black and white, rural and urban.
00:34:23.000And that institution, of course, was none other than the great Pizza Hut.
00:34:27.000Now, unfortunately, Like many institutions in American life, it fell upon hard times.
00:34:36.000But out of the ashes arose one who remembered its former greatness and called upon it to rise once more, to reclaim its throne as America's gathering place where families could feel safe and play bad video games and put quarters in to beat their old records and their personal best and have those plastic cups that were red and sort of.
00:35:00.000Sort of see through and get the crushed ice.
00:35:04.000That's right, Pizza Hut is rising once more.
00:35:07.000And Jack Pasobic deserves to take a very, very well deserved bow because I'm pretty sure this started with your Twitter account and an entrepreneur took hold of the vision that you set forth, Jack, and is making Pizza Hut great again.
00:35:23.000I mean, so, I mean, it's just one of those things.
00:36:33.000I think Elon engaged with it and some other stuff.
00:36:36.000And for years, I've been talking about Pizza Hut nationalism, about how we just used to have these Pizza Huts that were centered around families and Pizza Huts that were centered around people getting together and having a good time.
00:36:50.000Uh, if everyone remembers, I think it was the old Land Before Time VHS video and the Ninja Turtles VHS video that when you would get them, they would have a Pizza Hut, like a long form ad that was, you know, front loaded.
00:37:06.000Well, we have the ads, we have ads here.
00:37:08.000No, no, for kids in the late 80s, early 90s in particular, it was like if your parents took you to Pizza Hut, you were extraordinarily wealthy and you were like really well liked.
00:37:22.000You did something really great in school.
00:38:22.000But getting to go to actual, the actual Pizza Hut and, like, Walk up to that salad bar and like get, like sit down and you get the full pizza and like the full pizza experience with that look.
00:38:45.000It's always been a bigger thing because you're trying to hearken back to that bicentennial Americanism, that classic Americanism, family friendly, a community get together.
00:38:58.000And the minute you turn on one of those ads, you just get that feeling.
00:42:13.000Like, where would they, like, basically kill to go or have their parents take them?
00:42:17.000Most of them, like, would have said it would have been an overwhelming majority would have been like, Pizza, it's so cool because of this whole book it thing, like, everything.
00:42:24.000Kids did not love pizza because of book it.
00:42:26.000I'm telling you, I'm telling you, people liked book it because of pizza.
00:42:29.000How did I, like, how did we just, like, all know about it then?
00:42:33.000I, I, so I'll be honest, I only mostly know about this from the cultural spillover.
00:42:36.000I only think, I think I only went to Pizza Hut a couple times.
00:42:38.000No, I like, I love getting happy meals, and I love it.
00:42:42.000But here's the deal, I'm not going to suggest that it's.
00:42:43.000You know, that there might be, you know, some regional differences where people weren't as into it.
00:44:38.000And I'm not saying there aren't other regional brands that have done this.
00:44:42.000I could think of a couple on the East Coast that do kind of get there, but there's nothing as nationally iconic as the Pizza Hut.
00:44:52.000And my point is that in Pizza Hut as a national chain, you can actually see the slip.
00:44:57.000Between a place that was a family restaurant in its heyday that moved to the sort of like go go, hey, just pick up your pizza and leave sort of place, as uh, McDonald's, by the way, has you know fewer and fewer uh playgrounds, as is another sort of example of what we're talking about here because because they're just not designed for families anymore.
00:45:19.000No, but the average American family doesn't feel safe in them because you have a bunch of weirdos hanging out at McDonald's now, like I think, and I bet it's probably insurance stuff, but that's the point, like McDonald's, like.
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00:47:54.000Okay, so an average white family in 1980 would go to a 90% white neighborhood, McDonald's, poor people, rich people, but they shared the same culture.
00:48:04.000And they would go in and it felt like you were next to your neighbor.
00:48:07.000And now you go there and it's like you've got people you don't relate to.
00:49:11.000We take our kids like parties all the time at, like these uh, trampoline parks, but that's also the whole Maha movement is about that which, which also literally the whole Maha movement is about.
00:49:19.000This trampoline park is a massive political movement, all like literally dedicated to this question.
00:49:23.000The the real life autism thing though, is like, what's your trampoline parks feel?
00:50:13.000Like, you have like, yeah, what I was gonna say is, we would do pizza parties.
00:50:17.000So, when we do a birthday party at a trampoline park, right, they have a venue where like a person comes in, they light a cake, they cut the cake, they serve the cake to the kids, and then when they have usually served pizza.
00:50:27.000So, it's not Pizza Hut, but you know, the Pizza Hut of the 90s was like, again, it was the vibe, it was different.
00:50:35.000Like, kids wanted it, but the fact I'm saying it's just weird that kids wanted it.
00:54:57.000When I put this up the first time, I even pointed out that they should really nostalgia bait these for.
00:55:03.000For like elder millennial Gen Y parents, but even like, you know, working in for like the TikTok generation.
00:55:09.000So you should set up like old TVs and have like the Land Before Time playing and stuff like that throughout the theater, throughout the places.
00:55:17.000What's so funny about this, you know, just like go lean in and absolutely embrace all of it.
00:55:24.000What's funny about this is, in some sense, it's actually the opposite of making it more, I don't want to say the opposite, but it's not quite related to making it more pro family.
00:55:34.000Because if you're deliberately nostalgia baiting millennials, you're basically saying we're aiming this kind of at, you're actually kind of saying I'm aiming this at childless millennials in their 30s and 40s.
00:55:47.000Because parents go where their kids want to go.
00:56:06.000No, but appeasing your children with what they want and then showing kids what you like.
00:56:15.000Parents, part of the reason why, I totally agree, there's a totally weird Disney adult thing that exists.
00:56:21.000There's a certain, and there's people who will show up to this because of that, but there's also a huge base of consumers that want to show their kids like their experiences.
00:56:33.000They do, although, but a big portion, I think that an underrepresented portion of Disneyland is parents forcing their kids to go on rides they liked when they were a kid young.
00:56:43.000Like, I make my kids go to the tiki room every time.
00:56:47.000And I want to say, is it one of the most boring things at Disneyland?
00:56:50.000Yeah, but I like the tiki room because my dad liked the tiki room.
00:58:39.000I think people, I get why people miss this sort of thing.
00:58:43.000It's a lot of us miss things from our childhood.
00:58:46.000What I will note is you can tell this is a somewhat universal thing because I am now seeing young millennials, old Gen Z, who have nostalgia for things from the early 2000s that I know were terrible.
00:58:59.000So, but what is driving the nostalgia?
00:59:12.000In fact, an interesting thing is it varies over time, too.
00:59:15.000I have strong memories of like when I was in my early 20s, just out of college, I would experience nostalgia feelings all the time for stuff from my childhood.
00:59:26.000And I think it's like it's probably mingled with maybe the amount of change that comes from living independently for the first time.
00:59:33.000You've moved out of home, you're experiencing life in a new way for the first time.
00:59:49.000Dislike those things from my childhood, but I don't have nearly as much nostalgia for them either.
00:59:55.000Where, because you know, nostalgia, it's mingled with depression.
00:59:59.000That's what, you know, we're never saying we used to have a country.
01:00:01.000Everyone's sad about not having this thing anymore.
01:00:04.000And I think that's even what the word itself comes from.
01:00:06.000It's like a combination of like memory and sorrow, something like that.
01:00:12.000And I just think you actually, as you age, you do age out of these things or you hopefully outgrow these things and you can love things from your past, but also love things from the present and have more perspective on stuff.
01:00:24.000I'm going to say that all because I can back on that a little bit because you do also have such a thing as tradition, right?
01:00:31.000And this is where Lindy Man comes in and the concept of Lindy that some things are fads, to be sure.
01:00:38.000Like, I don't have nostalgia for like Pogs, you know, or like Alf, or, you know, what was that one that one showed like the Herman and the alien thing?
01:00:54.000But there are certain things that do become traditions, and traditions do become something that you can hand down.
01:01:01.000And baseball, no, no, it wasn't Al, it was a different one.
01:01:07.000And so, like, Little League Baseball is a huge one of those where I haven't really been following baseball for years, but now my kids are into it and they love playing Little League Baseball.
01:01:18.000And it's like, oh, so we're a baseball family all over again.
01:01:22.000And they're like begging me to take them to games and all sorts of things.
01:01:27.000I don't just have nostalgia for my memories of it.
01:01:31.000It's like that's a tradition that I had, that my dad had, and all my kids have.
01:01:35.000So there's a Bible verse that's interesting Ecclesiastes 7 10.
01:01:40.000And it goes like this Say not, why were the former days better than these?
01:01:44.000For it is not from wisdom that you ask this.
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01:02:55.000So, one thing I wanted to bring up was this commercial.
01:03:21.000But, They wouldn't be making all of these Pizza Huts, the Pizza Hut classics again, because that shows that there isn't an alternative.
01:03:48.000But also, when you go to countries in Eastern Europe, like Hungary, like Poland, and even just European airports in general, you find them to be very, very much more family friendly and family oriented.
01:05:51.000How does that segue to our next topic?
01:05:53.000Because she's a feminist icon for her fake tennis match against that one drunk male tennis player that she beat.
01:06:00.000And it proved that women could be as good as men if you ignore the fact that she was the number one tennis player in the world and the guy was like the 400th best tennis player in the world and was smoking and drinking and was also basically paid to throw the match anyway.
01:07:42.000And she went and launched her own podcast on her own thing.
01:07:45.000Apparently, she has made a zillion dollars.
01:07:49.000It's apparently called Call Her Daddy because it comes from the PG 13 warning here that men will say, Call me daddy to assert dominance over women.
01:08:15.000And funny enough, to what Tyler is saying, I think it was the original co host that came up with the phrasing of that, whereas Alex Cooper wanted it to say, call him daddy.
01:09:04.000I feel really strongly about feminism being one of the truly corrosive elements that exist and are propagated and celebrated in Western civilization, Western culture, especially America.
01:09:15.000So this is a fun topic for me because I find her particularly galling.
01:09:28.000I tend to like, listen, a lot of people are like, well, this is perfect for high status women because they get to go have their raunchy podcast and lead everybody astray.
01:09:38.000And then they get to hold out even as they get into older years.
01:10:04.000I hope that your marriage to Travis Kelsey makes you happy and more conservative.
01:10:09.000Well, so the reason people are worried about this and it's getting discussed is that she has definitely pushed this big female empowerment narrative.
01:10:18.000And I think that is actually what does make her a little different from Taylor Swift.
01:10:22.000Taylor Swift, she was actually kind of.
01:10:24.000Even though she had a large number of famous boyfriends, she was kind of trad in her orientation.
01:10:31.000She makes songs about falling in love forever and wanting to be with someone forever.
01:10:36.000And she's always been chasing that and finally got it.
01:10:39.000Whereas Cooper is, it's often a Ronaldo podcast that is about sex stuff, it's about jumping from relationship to relationship.
01:10:50.000And the idea is that she is pulling the successful Houdini act of being.
01:10:56.000Allegedly, you know, you thought she had a Genghis Khan like number throughout her 20s.
01:11:04.000She hits 30 and then suddenly says, Oh, well, I want to settle down.
01:11:07.000Immediately does land a relatively appealing, attractive husband, has kids, and that this is going to lead a large number of women astray to think, I can copy this same life script.
01:11:19.000And if you're not carrying a $60 million Spotify deal, it's less likely to work out for you.
01:11:46.000It's an Alex Cooper pump and dump where she's come in and she's making money, and it's consistently rated, I think, one of the highest podcasts out there.
01:11:55.000And she presented by Sparkling Ice, and it's like, you know, got mainstream, you know, backing because we just put lust and fornication everywhere these days, and yet she doesn't actually do it herself.
01:12:10.000So she's preaching this to everybody while also, you know, not following the lifestyle that she is popularizing.
01:12:51.000Or is this like, well, so, and this here's the thought crime: here's the thought crime, right?
01:12:55.000And I saw some people, I forget the original post was when we were chatting about it, maybe I can find it, but the original one was saying that here's the issue: is that this advice works if you are a nine or a 10, but if you're like a five or a six, if you're a mid, then this is actually like the worst.
01:13:13.000Possible advice for you, and you're just leading all these people astray.
01:13:18.000And here they are listening to your podcast, thinking that it's going to work.
01:13:21.000But those are the ones who are going to find themselves hitting, you know, mid 30s to late 30s to 40s, saying, Hey, wait a minute, you know, why isn't anyone calling me daddy?
01:13:33.000And suddenly the guys in their peer, you know, her age range are all going to be going for Zoomers.
01:13:39.000They're going to be dating girls that are like in their 20s because they're not interested.
01:14:00.000It says, so I just asked AIs, and it says, yes, Alex Cooper has frequently downplayed or expressed ambivalence about marriage and children in the past, particularly in her 20s and early podcast years, while heavily promoting hookup culture, casual sex, and prioritizing career fun over traditional milestones.
01:14:18.000Well, I'm going to want citations, though, because.
01:14:30.000She commonly said online that she would never get married.
01:14:34.000So, part of the reason why people have lost their minds on this is she had said numerous times that she would never get married and then now feels this way.
01:14:44.000Yeah, she said she couldn't fathom motherhood in her 20s.
01:14:49.000Point might maybe is like more hinging on.
01:14:51.000She said her podcast built a brand around sexually explicit content, advice like use him before he uses you, don't catch feelings, embracing casual hookups and viewing relationships as a chaotic roller coaster, quote unquote, without long term commitments.
01:15:09.000This resonated with and influenced many young female listeners in their teens and 20s.
01:15:14.000Then she talked about shifting views later.
01:15:19.000For example, developing baby fever in recent years after meeting her husband, Matt Kaplan, and episodes where she discussed.
01:15:26.000Discusses timelines for marriages and kids with him, but early content lead heavily into anti settling down vibes.
01:15:33.000So they got married in 2024 around age 29 or 30, can't decide, and recently announced their first pregnancy as of May.
01:15:41.000Yeah, I really don't think this is a rug pull.
01:15:43.000I think this is actually the peak of feminist propaganda, radical feminist propaganda, because it's totally that it's always her maximum autonomy.
01:15:53.000She can be against it in her 20s, and then she can just change her mind later in her life, and she's able to.
01:16:00.000Again, pull the Houdini act of gets married, has kids, and can pivot in her life trajectory.
01:16:05.000And in real life, as we know, because I mean, Charlie talked about this all the time going on campus.
01:16:11.000In real life, for a lot of people, if you want to get married, especially as a woman, it has to be a priority early on.
01:16:17.000You have to build and take steps towards that right away.
01:16:20.000And if you think I'm going to build my career until my early 30s and then start focusing on this, there's example after example where it's gone really badly.
01:16:35.000It was, um, it was, uh, you know, you shouldn't, you more, more women shouldn't be pursuing their PhD, they should be pursuing their MRS. He was a big, big believer in the MRS degree.
01:16:45.000MRS degrees are good, the MRS degree, yeah, yeah, such a good line.
01:16:50.000You know, speaking of which, that is interesting because there is a stat that says that 62% of all degrees now are going to women, uh, which is 62% to two thirds.
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01:19:32.000That is how we combat these insanities.
01:19:34.000And Zuzu chimed in again and she said Alex Cooper should bring her husband and kids to Pizza Hut.
01:19:58.000And I'm not saying that I don't hope that she's not in love and that she doesn't have kids and, like, yeah, slows down and, like, wants to just spend time with her kids and all of that.
01:20:06.000I hope that that's the case with Alex Cooper.
01:20:08.000The reality is that I actually feel bad for a lot of these famous couples because their kids usually take the brunt of it.
01:20:16.000And this is why I think a lot of kids that come from famous couples end up so screwed up.
01:20:21.000And you'll see this some famous people will take a step back from the spotlight.
01:20:26.000And they'll raise their kids and they'll stop and they'll slow down and they'll like focus on, you know, motherhood or fatherhood or whatever, right?
01:20:39.000But I think the point is, is like she's not living in the same, on the same planet that most of us are living.
01:20:44.000So Jack's point is, I think, pretty well made where he said this script, this life script will work for nines and tens, maybe sevens and eights too.
01:20:52.000But if you are maybe not so attractive and you get into your 30s and you're not so rich and successful, I don't think you have nearly as many options as Alex Cooper.
01:21:01.000And so she is selling a bad vision of reality, of what's lived reality and experience.
01:21:08.000But the upside here, if my glass can be half full, I can be honest about the fact that I think this is a terrible life script to sell to young women.
01:21:17.000But she's got this huge audience by being authentic and being raunchy and being real and saying it out loud, saying it like it really is or whatever.
01:21:26.000Well, they're also hearing her go through this evolution of getting baby fever, getting married.
01:21:32.000And so the upshot is, Maybe she's got millions of fans that are like, oh, now I want to get married too.
01:22:13.000Women just overall reporting dissatisfaction, unhappiness, a feeling of being really torn, trying to have it all, trying to have a career and be a career woman and also have a family and do all of that.
01:22:27.000Women don't know what to do with relationships because, on the one hand, they want men who make more than they do, they want men who are higher achieving than they are.
01:22:36.000Yet, this creates a paradox whereas women have become the number one earners of college degrees.
01:22:42.000They have Now, got salaries that compete with men, and they've got more equality than ever before.
01:22:49.000They're finding that the men are not suitable to marry.
01:22:52.000They're finding that, you know, they just can't find a guy who's on their level or higher, which is what they really want.
01:22:59.000So now think back to the baby boom where you had the GI Bill and the status of men from earnings, college degrees, and all these things, job opportunities was here and women were down here and you had this huge baby boom as a result.
01:23:10.000Now that script is flipped and we have a fertility crisis.
01:23:14.000We're losing our freaking playgrounds at McDonald's.
01:23:18.000We got all kinds of societal problems.
01:23:20.000The men and the women don't like each other.
01:23:22.000The Expectations and the relationships are off.
01:23:23.000You talk to any of our Turning Point kids, by the way, it's the number one thing they'll talk to you about.
01:25:05.000I miss the monoculture, like, yeah, like we're all old enough to remember America that had a monoculture, and it was it was cool.
01:25:13.000It was great to know that, like, it didn't matter who I was walking down on the street, that they were going to be doing they were going to be watching the same shows and reacting to the same news.
01:25:22.000There's benefits of having bifurcated culture or you know, siloed cultures, you get maybe more, it's maybe more individually satisfying, but there's something beautiful about having a Culture that's all singing from the same hymnal, if you would.
01:25:35.000Like, for example, Matt Walsh made this point, and I thought it was spot on.
01:25:40.000I'm watching a show that he happens to be watching, so I read the tweet, and it was about Widow's Bay, which is on Apple.
01:28:12.000I think it's my neighbor feel like America.
01:28:14.000Well, Andrew, I think if you recall, it's them screwing around with the Super Bowl that let us be able to do what we did to make this here.
01:28:23.000But I will be the first to say that I don't want that.
01:28:26.000But I actually would prefer they don't screw it up.
01:28:28.000Because I wanted everybody to do that.
01:28:29.000Do you think America had more of a monoculture?
01:28:43.000So, like, what I would say is if you went back 50 years, the complaint from conservatives like us would be about the loss of any regional identity in the United States.
01:28:52.000We've lost regional accents, regional culture.
01:28:55.000It used to be country music, for example.
01:29:05.000I would say, okay, so for the 1930s, right, we had more regional culture, and there was also like a huge ethnic boom of immigration that we were absorbing.
01:30:22.000So, I mean, the point is, I'd rather have a monoculture that we can all share, at least in this day and age, as opposed to just bifurcated where regions don't even matter.
01:30:34.000So, Marshall McLuhan, if you read any of his stuff, he just, just like totally in the 1960s called all of this.
01:30:40.000And, you know, he pointed out how the rise of television, to Blake's point, you know, led to the loss of regional culture.
01:30:49.000But then he also predicted that as information became more democratized and that the sort of like the mechanisms by which we create media would become easier and cheaper to, you know, the methods of production, as it were, means of production, as it were, that we would become bifurcated and, and, You know, that monoculture will be smashed apart again.
01:31:15.000And so, what we're seeing now is we rather than have regional identity, so we have regional identity, which still exists, and you see it a lot with sports teams more than anything else.
01:31:24.000Then, we also have our general monoculture, which has taken the biggest hit.
01:31:30.000And that's why we have the loss of the national pride of being an American that we're currently fighting to get back, right?
01:31:38.000To get back to that bicentennialism, which also coincided with the probably the peak of that monoculture, or, you know, at least proceeding to that peak of the 1990s.
01:31:47.000And then With the rise of the internet, now we are subdividing yet again, but we're not subdividing by region.
01:31:55.000We're subdividing also by sort of like internet identity.
01:31:59.000So it's sort of like you're getting into these trans identity.
01:32:04.000That's what I identify as, or identify as this crazy group that I found on TikTok.
01:32:09.000And then I go into the Discord chat, and now that's my identity.
01:33:06.000Until next Thursday, keep committing thought crimes.
01:33:09.000Feminism is the glaring thing in front of us where we have fertility rates down, we have marriage rates down, we have unhappiness up, and we did something in the 1960s out of the universities of Brettie Friedan and Gloria Steinem and all these feminists that basically said, you're trapped in a home, go get a job, freeze your eggs, take birth control.
01:33:27.000And all of a sudden, women are way unhappier than they were 40 years ago.
01:33:30.000And I just have to ask the question why is that?