The Charlie Kirk Show - June 06, 2026


THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 130 — Kool-Aid Pineapples? Christian Energy Drinks? Zoomer Hollywood Takeover?


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In this week's episode of Thought Crime Thursday, we discuss the Christian Energy Drink craze, the dangers of energy drinks, and why you should stop sending your kids to college. We also have a live test run of The Jesus Juiced.

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00:00:03.000 My name is Charlie Kirk.
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00:01:18.000 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard.
00:01:19.000 We're here for once again this week's edition of Thought Crime Thursday.
00:01:25.000 We've got some excellent topics for tonight.
00:01:28.000 In fact, in this week, we've also got some live experiments that we are going to be testing out here in.
00:01:37.000 Andrew, of course, is not on today, though.
00:01:37.000 The room.
00:01:40.000 So we'll not be checking if he has his suit on.
00:01:43.000 Today is actually Andrew's birthday.
00:01:44.000 He is turning 50.
00:01:46.000 He's a very old man, and we are very, very excited for him.
00:01:50.000 And as such, yes, he has taken the day off.
00:01:53.000 But let's see who we do have around with us around the room.
00:01:58.000 I believe we have Russ Basie.
00:02:00.000 Who's Russ?
00:02:01.000 Howdy, howdy.
00:02:02.000 Howdy, man.
00:02:03.000 We've got Blake holding it down.
00:02:04.000 Hoorah.
00:02:06.000 And back after, I mean, the audience didn't really ask for him back.
00:02:10.000 But he's here anyway.
00:02:11.000 It's Mikey.
00:02:13.000 Great topics, not so great guests.
00:02:16.000 No, no, the guests are a little lackluster.
00:02:19.000 What can I say?
00:02:20.000 Scraping the bottom of the bargain bin for this week.
00:02:24.000 But, you know, but we will persevere.
00:02:26.000 We will indeed persevere.
00:02:28.000 What are we starting with, guys?
00:02:29.000 What are we going with to start out?
00:02:31.000 Do we want to start with the energy drinks?
00:02:32.000 Because I think that flows into our experiment.
00:02:35.000 I don't get the energy drinks thing.
00:02:37.000 I don't even know what this is.
00:02:38.000 So you guys are going to have to lead me through this.
00:02:40.000 Russ, I think you're our biggest energy drink expert.
00:02:40.000 All right.
00:02:42.000 So introduce.
00:02:43.000 The Jesus juice.
00:02:44.000 He's the connoisseur. 0.84
00:02:45.000 Cheers.
00:02:45.000 Cheers.
00:02:46.000 Tell us about Jesus juice.
00:02:47.000 Yeah.
00:02:47.000 So, Jesus juice.
00:02:50.000 This has become a fad.
00:02:51.000 Not that Jesus juice, right, Russ?
00:02:53.000 Yeah. 0.54
00:02:54.000 No, I actually have never tried any of these Christian energy drinks, but it's become a fad that Christian content creators are starting to create these Christian energy drinks and to counteract the existence of.
00:02:54.000 Yes.
00:03:15.000 Monster and Red Bull.
00:03:18.000 And yeah, well, it's actually kind of funny because this kind of goes full circle for me because when I first started like drinking energy drinks, I have a very granola mom.
00:03:30.000 So first off, she was like, oh, well, it's bad for you.
00:03:33.000 It's, you know, it's going to kill you, all of this.
00:03:36.000 And then she started sending me Facebook stuff about the fact that like Monster is like the mark of the beast and all of this.
00:03:45.000 All of this, like, demonic stuff.
00:03:49.000 And actually, we do have, I found, we found the video.
00:03:52.000 Wait, hold on.
00:03:52.000 Well, hold on.
00:03:53.000 It is the mark of the beast, apparently.
00:03:56.000 Oh, I have seen this.
00:03:57.000 No, I have not seen this.
00:03:59.000 I guess Hebrew numerals, their way of showing six is very similar to each column on the monster label.
00:04:09.000 That's kind of disturbing.
00:04:11.000 Have they ever commented on this?
00:04:13.000 That's not really what it looks like.
00:04:15.000 See, Jack, that's where I'm at too.
00:04:18.000 I agree.
00:04:19.000 I'm there with you.
00:04:20.000 I'm like, I think we're going to do it.
00:04:22.000 I'll throw something else out.
00:04:24.000 That's also in Greek.
00:04:26.000 Isn't that just the symbol for G, for gamma?
00:04:30.000 I have to look this up.
00:04:33.000 Yeah, I know.
00:04:34.000 I have to also.
00:04:35.000 Gamma would be the other direction, I think.
00:04:37.000 Yeah.
00:04:38.000 It's the other direction.
00:04:39.000 It looks like a.
00:04:40.000 All right.
00:04:40.000 Well, pretty close.
00:04:41.000 It looks like an F.
00:04:41.000 Okay.
00:04:42.000 It looks like an F without the.
00:04:44.000 So Monsters Demonic.
00:04:44.000 Okay.
00:04:45.000 But I mean, like.
00:04:47.000 It's pretty close to a number of other things.
00:04:49.000 That's all I'm saying.
00:04:51.000 So Monsters Demonic.
00:04:51.000 Okay.
00:04:52.000 But now I'm looking here and we've got.
00:04:55.000 There's a lot.
00:04:56.000 I thought this would be about one Christian energy drink.
00:04:58.000 No, there's a lot.
00:04:59.000 But, okay.
00:05:00.000 We have Yahweh energy and they have the very blessed.
00:05:03.000 Flavor exactly.
00:05:05.000 We have agape energy with peach and preaching peach, and we have forgiven with the number four.
00:05:15.000 Are there others?
00:05:16.000 Are there more than these?
00:05:17.000 There's they're coming.
00:05:19.000 Oh, there's praise energy.
00:05:21.000 That's the one that's most recent because the guy is like he's become very popular on TikTok, and so he was like, Hey, I'm coming out with a Christian energy.
00:05:32.000 Praise energy's mascot, Zion the Lion.
00:05:37.000 Is a cartoon lion sporting an iHeartJesus t shirt and high top sneakers?
00:05:43.000 And then there's Air Lion, whose mascot feels like it should be a cartoon lion, but confused.
00:05:49.000 Oh, wait, there's Air Lion, which is just another brand.
00:05:51.000 Oh, it's a totally different brand that doesn't have a lion.
00:05:54.000 How can there be this many Christian energy drink brands? 0.99
00:05:57.000 How many energy drinks do you need to sell to make a profit on these? 0.58
00:06:00.000 I mean, because what they're doing is these are all just white labels for each various influencer.
00:06:07.000 So.
00:06:08.000 It's probably not very much different in terms of what's actually in the can.
00:06:13.000 It's what's different.
00:06:14.000 Like many of the, I'm just guessing.
00:06:16.000 It's kind of like what's probably being done is that they're being made at one place and then each person is getting their own label on it.
00:06:23.000 And then what goes out is like who markets what.
00:06:26.000 So who gets the markup on it?
00:06:29.000 Yeah.
00:06:29.000 It's kind of like what Jake Paul did with his energy drink and that kind of stuff.
00:06:36.000 It's like if you're any influencer worth their salt, you're going to come out with an energy drink at some point.
00:06:43.000 Or a tequila company.
00:06:44.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:06:46.000 So, like every single celebrity.
00:06:48.000 Yeah. 0.94
00:06:49.000 So, the natural follow up to this, I guess, this is silly.
00:06:51.000 I find it funny.
00:06:53.000 But the big question is is this good or bad?
00:06:57.000 Or is it even a moral question?
00:06:59.000 Is it good for Christians, Christian influencers, to come out with a Christian branded energy drink? 0.87
00:07:09.000 Is this grifting? 0.97
00:07:10.000 Is this sinful to do?
00:07:12.000 Is it totally fine? 0.96
00:07:13.000 Are you representing the faith?
00:07:14.000 In the public square, kind of the way In N Out has Bible verses on their fries.
00:07:20.000 What's the right way to go about this?
00:07:21.000 Mikey, how do you feel about it?
00:07:23.000 I don't think there's any problem with this.
00:07:26.000 It reminds me of the right wing economy that we've built.
00:07:29.000 Everybody was canceling conservatives, didn't let conservatives shop at certain places, canceled their accounts, canceled their banks.
00:07:36.000 And then we came up with our own banking system.
00:07:38.000 We came up with our own right wing economy.
00:07:40.000 And I don't think there's a problem with Christians doing the same thing.
00:07:44.000 But also, like, I talked about this earlier.
00:07:49.000 Like you see Arabic writing and you immediately think of Islam.
00:07:52.000 Like, I want so much Christian, like this Christian economy to be built in the US that anytime you see English, you just immediately think of Christianity.
00:08:01.000 And I don't care if it's like, I don't care if it's energy drinks.
00:08:04.000 I don't care if it's a coffee company.
00:08:06.000 I don't care if it's Jeremy's razors, like whatever it is, as long as it is true and, you know, a good, like a good, virtuous company that's not supporting Planned Parenthood and nasty things, like, yeah, build your own company.
00:08:19.000 Yeah.
00:08:19.000 And I think about, I had a friend who went once to, I think it was Ghana, he visited.
00:08:23.000 And one of the things he said that stood out to him there is actually how incredibly aggressively Christian a lot of random businesses might be.
00:08:32.000 And so he mentioned, I think he saw like, he died for your sins, barbershop, basically, or like washed in the blood of the lamb, some other business, bakery, something like that, butcher shop, something like that.
00:08:44.000 And I guess that did actually sound pretty moving to me in the sense, obviously, they might be good or bad Christians, but it is.
00:08:51.000 We often say if you are a Christian, people should know you are a Christian.
00:08:55.000 One of the best things about Charlie is every single aspect of his life was pervaded with faith.
00:09:01.000 And I guess it would sound a little picky to then if someone releases, oh, I'm going to release an energy drink to go with my brand.
00:09:09.000 And yeah, it's going to have Christian labeling on it because I'm a Christian.
00:09:11.000 I guess it would be weird to get too upset about it.
00:09:13.000 But I can definitely imagine versions of this that would be upsetting to me, but it'd probably be upsetting for the same reason a non religious brand might be upsetting. 0.96
00:09:21.000 Sure.
00:09:22.000 I think the, I think the, the, Counterweight in my head with all of this is that the problem today is that a lot of people do not take pride in their work or they turn something like this specifically when it comes to influencers.
00:09:41.000 This becomes just a gimmick.
00:09:43.000 So then they don't care what's in the product, they don't care how it's made.
00:09:48.000 And so then you're now just, hey, it's just a gimmick.
00:09:52.000 And at the same time, when you look at like, you know, the Bible talks about that we're supposed to be hard workers and And everything.
00:10:05.000 I think if you're going to put Christian labeling on any type of product, it needs to stand up to other products and show that you've actually put in the work and the effort, in my opinion.
00:10:23.000 What do you think, Jay? 0.88
00:10:25.000 Yeah, I agree with that.
00:10:27.000 Yeah, no, I disagree completely.
00:10:29.000 I think this is incredibly simple.
00:10:31.000 I'm just going to say, I think this is really immoral.
00:10:36.000 Unless people are giving these away for free or something, if you're making money off of selling stuff in the name of Christ, what is wrong with you?
00:10:45.000 Unless you're not donating the vast, mass majority of revenue that comes in from this to some kind of charitable organization or to an actual Christian organization.
00:10:57.000 But if it's just influencers doing this, that's like.
00:11:02.000 Like, yeah, that's that's like kind of stuff you go to hell for.
00:11:04.000 Like, you don't use uh Christ's image and likeness as a way to put money in your pocket, you just shouldn't do that.
00:11:12.000 And uh, this is obviously we see Jesus in the Bible being very, very explicit about throwing the money changers out of the temple that you are not supposed to mix these two things.
00:11:22.000 Uh, so yeah, I actually hadn't known about this, I'd never heard about this.
00:11:26.000 Huge problem, huge problem.
00:11:27.000 So, what about so where is it divided?
00:11:29.000 So, you because I can imagine, for example, Christian bookstores exist that sell Christian books or We're having a Passion of the Christ sequel come out.
00:11:38.000 That is, I believe, going to be a for profit film.
00:11:41.000 Certainly, the actors in the film are all for profit.
00:11:44.000 Mel Gibson is going to be making money off of that.
00:11:46.000 So, is there what things are acceptable and what things aren't, I suppose, in your view, Jack?
00:11:52.000 Yeah, well, again, I mean, you're making an apples to oranges comparison.
00:11:55.000 You're comparing, like, going to see a movie, which, again, tells the story of Christ, or going to read a book, which tells the story of Christ, or has some analysis on Christ.
00:12:04.000 That's not going into some influencer's pocket, right?
00:12:06.000 You're talking about something that's mass media versus just like a cheap product.
00:12:11.000 But I'm not sure I see the difference there.
00:12:14.000 Could you do it with the product?
00:12:15.000 So, for example, Well, they're not saying the product actually included a witness to the gospel on it somewhere, like right next to the nutrition facts or something.
00:12:24.000 It could be like some brief repentance to like, in and out.
00:12:29.000 No, like, in and out, I think does it the right way.
00:12:31.000 I think, even though, as everyone knows, I see, I'm on the other side.
00:12:37.000 I do it the right way.
00:12:39.000 I just cringe.
00:12:40.000 Like, it's super cringe. 0.91
00:12:41.000 Is it cringe or are they going to hell?
00:12:43.000 Because you said that this is the stuff people go to hell for.
00:12:46.000 So you're saying this is definitely the stuff. 0.61
00:12:47.000 If you don't, if you don't like this kind of stuff, you will go to hell. 0.98
00:12:51.000 Okay. 0.99
00:12:51.000 Yes. 0.99
00:12:51.000 So the influencers selling this are going to hell. 0.99
00:12:54.000 Yes. 0.91
00:12:55.000 Okay.
00:12:55.000 Where is that biblical exactly?
00:12:57.000 Yeah.
00:12:58.000 Again, I literally just gave you the example of throwing out the money changers.
00:13:03.000 Christ flipping the tables.
00:13:05.000 Yeah.
00:13:06.000 How is that?
00:13:07.000 How does that draw a comparison?
00:13:09.000 Are these exactly?
00:13:12.000 Again, like you're being very word centric.
00:13:16.000 As Christ said, we're not supposed to take the, it's the spirit of the law versus the letter of the law.
00:13:21.000 So what he's saying is you shouldn't mix worship with commerce.
00:13:27.000 That's the point.
00:13:28.000 Well, okay, but let's go back to the movie then.
00:13:30.000 I think then you could argue that they shouldn't sell tickets for the movie.
00:13:33.000 They should only put on broadcasts of the movie and people can go for free.
00:13:39.000 If I were going to put out something religious, like, you know, in this vein, you know, I would definitely do something with the profits that wasn't going directly in my pocket.
00:13:51.000 100%.
00:13:53.000 I wouldn't want that on my ledger.
00:13:54.000 Okay, absolutely.
00:13:56.000 But.
00:13:57.000 A lot of these people are not.
00:13:58.000 Like, that's kind of the thing is like, a lot of this stuff is, it's all for profit.
00:14:03.000 Mel Gibson's movie talking about Jesus is for profit.
00:14:06.000 It's showing the life of Jesus.
00:14:09.000 He's probably going to donate some of it, but a lot of that is going to be to pay him.
00:14:14.000 It's to pay the actors.
00:14:16.000 It's to pay, you know, it's to pay all of these people.
00:14:18.000 I'm not saying don't make movies about Jesus.
00:14:20.000 I want to be clear about that.
00:14:21.000 I'm not saying don't make movies.
00:14:22.000 I do also think that movies are a fundamentally different thing, which for some reason you guys don't seem to understand.
00:14:27.000 I'm not sure I see that.
00:14:29.000 I'm still undefined.
00:14:31.000 You're all much younger and more immature than our old friend Andrew.
00:14:35.000 Of course. 1.00
00:14:36.000 Because you're young, you're stupid. 1.00
00:14:38.000 Right. 1.00
00:14:40.000 Well, generally, yes.
00:14:41.000 But not always. 1.00
00:14:41.000 Young people are pretty stupid. 1.00
00:14:42.000 But no, I think I'm not sure I see the clear cut distinction here. 1.00
00:14:47.000 I will agree with Jack on what he said.
00:14:49.000 You can't make Christian movies and a white labeled energy drink.
00:14:52.000 No, I don't. 0.96
00:14:52.000 You can't make Christian merchandise. 0.96
00:14:55.000 Can you be a worship artist? 0.77
00:14:56.000 Can you make a labeled energy drink in a movie?
00:14:58.000 Like, really?
00:14:59.000 No, I don't.
00:15:01.000 I don't see the difference in terms of this is a commercial product you will pay money for, other people will pay money for, and it will enrich somebody if this product does well.
00:15:13.000 And so, if you were saying these drinks might be okay if someone was giving them away while they're not giving away the movie.
00:15:20.000 And by the way, I'm consistent on this.
00:15:22.000 I've also said in the past that I'm not a fan of those apps where you pay to pray.
00:15:28.000 They have like.
00:15:29.000 They have like fees that you can pay along to pray, like, oh, we've got pray extra with this fee and pay.
00:15:37.000 And it's like, I'm not a fan.
00:15:39.000 Really, I don't know.
00:15:39.000 Yeah, that caused a lot of problems for the church 500 years ago, too.
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00:17:00.000 No, no, I think this is a genuinely very interesting topic because, again, like I'm thinking as an example, let's say you were running a barbershop.
00:17:10.000 So let's just use your barbershop as an example.
00:17:12.000 Well, I can explain the difference very clearly if you want me to explain the difference.
00:17:17.000 Sure.
00:17:18.000 Okay.
00:17:18.000 So a story that a film.
00:17:21.000 That shares the story of Christ to a mass audience is inherently going out into the world and sharing the gospel. 0.50
00:17:32.000 An energy drink that is just an energy drink with a picture of Jesus on it is just extracting money from a community of Christian followers and putting it in your pocket. 0.61
00:17:42.000 Okay, but what if they put Bible verses on the drink? 0.91
00:17:45.000 What if they pay to have the drink or they market to have the drink in neutral environments where it could be encountered by a non believer?
00:17:52.000 I think if you didn't call it Yahweh juice or whatever they called it, and it just had Bible verses, that'd be fine. 0.77
00:17:59.000 I'm on, I'm a little two sided on both of this because I think I am a fan of subtlety in the sense just what Jack said.
00:18:09.000 In and out is a perfect example.
00:18:11.000 They're not throwing it in your face, but if you happen to look at the bottom of your cup, you're going to see a Bible verse. 0.93
00:18:17.000 But at the same time, another perfect example is Chick fil A. Like they are very clear on what their. 1.00
00:18:25.000 Organizations' morals are.
00:18:27.000 And yes, they've taken a bigger stance than a lot of companies by saying, hey, we're not going to be open on Sundays.
00:18:33.000 But it's not in your face, right?
00:18:35.000 Culture has pretty much accepted that, hey, I can't go to Chick fil A.
00:18:38.000 But when we say, I think what we say, it's not in your face.
00:18:40.000 What do we actually say?
00:18:41.000 I think a lot of people just say they don't want it in their face because they think it's kind of annoying if something is in your face.
00:18:45.000 Wait, wait, wait.
00:18:46.000 Can I get you to the point? 0.90
00:18:46.000 Is it actually bad or immoral to extremely loudly say, this is Christian? 0.90
00:18:52.000 Here is Christianity.
00:18:53.000 Here's all this Christian stuff. 0.99
00:18:55.000 In your face. 1.00
00:18:56.000 That might be annoying, but is it wrong?
00:18:59.000 I'm not sure if it is.
00:19:01.000 No, no.
00:19:01.000 And by the way, hold on.
00:19:05.000 I've also said many times that I'm a huge fan of street preachers.
00:19:08.000 When we had that street preacher in Chaz years ago, I was right there able to interview him when he got assaulted.
00:19:17.000 That's something I think those guys are great.
00:19:18.000 I think they're absolutely great.
00:19:20.000 But again, they're not charging people like this.
00:19:23.000 And again, the sin doesn't come just from the activity, it comes from what's in the person's heart.
00:19:29.000 You know, it could be something where they don't realize that how sinful it is.
00:19:34.000 You know, something where they may need to understand later.
00:19:36.000 The one I want to give you a better example of, though, is are you guys familiar with Sweet Frog?
00:19:41.000 Have you heard about Sweet Frog?
00:19:42.000 Do you know what that is?
00:19:43.000 This sounds like a yogurt company.
00:19:45.000 It is a yogurt company, indeed.
00:19:46.000 Oh, wow.
00:19:47.000 How did you know that?
00:19:48.000 Yeah, it's in the D.C. area, which is maybe why you've heard of it.
00:19:53.000 And so it's Sweet Frog Yogurt.
00:19:57.000 And, you know, I just know it because it's a yogurt brand in the area.
00:20:02.000 I mean, they have about 300, 350 different, you know, apparently they have one in Scottsdale as well.
00:20:09.000 And, you know, they have a bunch of locations, whatever.
00:20:12.000 But here's what I didn't even know until Tanya mentioned it to me the other day that apparently.
00:20:18.000 Frog in Sweet Frog is a reference to Christ.
00:20:23.000 What?
00:20:24.000 Even though their mascot is a frog.
00:20:26.000 Yeah, I know.
00:20:26.000 Okay, I looked this up.
00:20:27.000 I thought it was a yogurt company because, in fact, there was a sweet frog a block from my place in DC and I went to it.
00:20:33.000 I didn't know it was a Christian thing.
00:20:35.000 No, no, you never know that. 1.00
00:20:36.000 So, to Russ, to your point, this is where the subtlety goes a little bit too awry because it's too clever by half.
00:20:44.000 And they say, you know, Frog, okay, so Frog, the Frog part of the name stands for fully rely on God.
00:20:58.000 Which is just like bizarre to me.
00:20:59.000 It almost reminds me of Nintendo, the video game company.
00:21:03.000 Technically, I mean, they're not Christian, but their Japanese names essentially like leave it to heaven, more or less, like heaven's providence.
00:21:10.000 Really?
00:21:11.000 I'd never known that.
00:21:11.000 That's cool.
00:21:12.000 Yeah.
00:21:13.000 So I want to get a few because we have the chat getting involved.
00:21:15.000 First, Zuzu's Petals is always around, and she points out.
00:21:19.000 That Hope Harvard had a Christian makeup line and she spoke at the Young Women's Leadership Summit in the past.
00:21:25.000 Nice.
00:21:26.000 That strikes me as, I guess, I don't know the details of this makeup brand, but I think that's just a good example of.
00:21:32.000 And also, we should note Erica herself has Proclaim, which is Christian.
00:21:37.000 To Mikey's point.
00:21:38.000 But there's a difference between being Christian and saying that this is Christ.
00:21:46.000 You know what I mean?
00:21:47.000 Yeah, no, I get it.
00:21:48.000 I think even Christian in general and like. 0.95
00:21:51.000 Having crosses and different things and saying that you're Yahweh juice. 0.63
00:21:55.000 Could the problem be specifically putting Jesus on the can? 1.00
00:21:58.000 I agree with that one. 0.65
00:22:00.000 I could see that being a big part of it.
00:22:04.000 I think that's a good point.
00:22:05.000 I also want to get Sandra because she also says, Jack, specifically on the point of view of the can and it mostly being sold to Christians, Jack, if you carry the drinks around and others see it, they might in turn see that you are a Christian and start conversations similar to wearing a faith based t shirt.
00:22:22.000 So, do you have any thoughts on that from Sandra?
00:22:26.000 Yeah, again, I think that being Christian in public is good.
00:22:30.000 I have obviously advocated for that for many years.
00:22:33.000 But at the same time, I don't think you should put money in your pocket for it.
00:22:38.000 People got on me about having a rosary, for example.
00:22:42.000 And people will say, oh, Pasobic is selling the rosaries.
00:22:45.000 And in fact, I've always turned down whenever anyone's offered me any partnerships for that. 0.97
00:22:52.000 I said, no, I'm more than happy to post it.
00:22:53.000 I'll tell people where they can get it.
00:22:55.000 You know, whatever rosary it is that I'm, you know, that I have, but I just wouldn't feel right taking money for that.
00:23:02.000 Yeah, I think the best argument, Russ, was what you made at the beginning.
00:23:05.000 Like, and Jackie, you mentioned this.
00:23:06.000 These are just a bunch of white labels, and they're not checking the quality of this.
00:23:10.000 They're not, it's more of like a get rich quick thing.
00:23:13.000 I think when it's sinful, is buy this because, you know, God wants you to buy this.
00:23:19.000 Buy this because, you know, God wants us to support each other.
00:23:22.000 Buy this because prosperity gospel. 0.95
00:23:24.000 Instead of Christians, Participated in the marketplace saying that they want to glorify God through their business.
00:23:31.000 But I do want to say, I don't think that this is like a hell driven thing. 0.70
00:23:36.000 Like, I don't think you're going to go to hell for doing this.
00:23:38.000 In fact, and I don't want to throw the baby out the bathwater either.
00:23:41.000 Like Erica participates with Proclaim Street, where, like, does this also mean that, like, worship artists who are getting paid for their worship songs?
00:23:50.000 Does that mean they're going to hell?
00:23:52.000 Like, clothing brand companies?
00:23:56.000 I think I do.
00:23:57.000 And it's kind of like Blake helped me put it in words better was that the difference is because you're not walking around saying, like, Yahweh clothes or Yahweh band, it's just songs about God.
00:24:12.000 That's a band that is Christian or an apparel company that is Christian.
00:24:18.000 It's different when you're really just kind of leaning in and using Jesus as like a brand that you can make money off of.
00:24:27.000 Yeah, like a mascot.
00:24:28.000 I think that's an element of you know it when you see it.
00:24:30.000 This is why I also have a problem with Christian, like the Christian movie side of things, where it's just so forced.
00:24:39.000 And then the quality isn't good.
00:24:41.000 Well, sometimes it's just bad because it's bad.
00:24:43.000 But yeah, but that's the quality part, right?
00:24:47.000 That's the quality part, right?
00:24:49.000 Yeah, that is.
00:24:50.000 So, a simpler comparison here, just because it makes me wonder if people are doing that because they just want to make money from a Christian audience, then that would be sinful if they're actually not caring.
00:25:02.000 Yeah, but who's to say that these energy drink companies, like who's to say some of the owners of these don't actually have a good heart behind this?
00:25:10.000 And who's to say they don't actually have, yeah, exactly.
00:25:13.000 Which is like, woe to you who calls evil good and good evil.
00:25:16.000 Like, don't be so quick to judge.
00:25:18.000 What if they are actually donating a majority of their profits to charities and churches and furthering the gospel?
00:25:24.000 If they are, like, I'm going to be quicker to give them the benefit of the doubt than I am to say that they're going to hell.
00:25:30.000 But one last question on this, and then I think we'll move on because we have a very fun food related topic.
00:25:34.000 We all look like money changers.
00:25:36.000 Yeah.
00:25:37.000 But so, one final question is Is there a difference?
00:25:40.000 So, we're talking about products here with an energy drink.
00:25:42.000 Let's suppose a nominally neutral business.
00:25:44.000 I mentioned a barbershop, but maybe a restaurant too.
00:25:46.000 Like, let's imagine an Italian restaurant, but.
00:25:49.000 Maybe it has a biblically inflected name like Bread of Life or something.
00:25:54.000 And then it's maybe the restaurant has a lot of religious decorations in it, might have crosses on the wall, might have Jesus art and various places.
00:26:04.000 You can imagine a very aggressively Christian restaurant when you're in it.
00:26:08.000 And obviously, you can't really make Jesus food, it's just going to be normal food.
00:26:13.000 But is it exploitative to make your restaurant extremely aggressively religious in the sense that you might be.
00:26:22.000 Blackmailing is too aggressive of a word, but you're trying to essentially cash in to some extent on I want Christians to want to come here because it's a super Christian restaurant.
00:26:36.000 I think to Mikey's point, it all has to do with the heart.
00:26:50.000 It has to do with the owner.
00:26:55.000 A Christian that he wants that in his store.
00:26:57.000 If that's the case, then, but to your guys' point, like if he's just exploiting, hey, I can make money because Christians will be gullible enough to come to my restaurant because they see all of the iconography, then, you know. 0.69
00:27:10.000 But also to Jack's point, it's James, I think James 3 1, which is just teachers are held to a more strict standard and they'll be judged to a more strict standard.
00:27:21.000 So if you are doing this in a way, you are a teacher.
00:27:24.000 And so you do actually really need to make sure that your heart is in the right place because if it's not, In the right place, and this is just like a prosperity gospel money grab thing.
00:27:33.000 That is a problem.
00:27:34.000 You are sinning in the midst of that because you are technically a teacher.
00:27:39.000 You're sharing the gospel.
00:27:41.000 You're participating in sharing the gospel.
00:27:43.000 You're putting it out there.
00:27:44.000 And then one of you guys said it earlier this could lead to conversations about Christ.
00:27:48.000 If that's your heart, that's a good thing.
00:27:51.000 But my house shall be called a house of prayer, and you are making it a den of robbers.
00:27:56.000 All right.
00:27:57.000 Well, speaking of hearts, we need to talk about something that might cause heart failure.
00:28:01.000 So we have another food related endeavor.
00:28:05.000 This has gone viral, and I saw it, and I thought, I've We've got to get into this.
00:28:09.000 All right, so we have highlights.
00:28:10.000 There is a new fad of food.
00:28:12.000 It's on TikTok.
00:28:13.000 It's on Instagram.
00:28:14.000 It's on every online platform.
00:28:15.000 It's everywhere.
00:28:16.000 It is people putting pineapples in Kool Aid.
00:28:19.000 Run the highlight reel.
00:28:21.000 That is clip 13.
00:28:25.000 My boy trying the strawberry kiwi.
00:28:29.000 Yeah.
00:28:30.000 100 out of 10.
00:28:31.000 100 out of 10.
00:28:32.000 Follow my nigga's soup.
00:28:34.000 Come on now.
00:28:35.000 Follow my nigga's soup. 0.89
00:28:39.000 The juice always gonna do it.
00:28:42.000 I'll tell you.
00:28:43.000 And you can put your juice on some ice. 1.00
00:28:46.000 You can mix that shit with some little. 0.99
00:28:49.000 So I've been seeing everybody's Kool Aid pineapple recipe. 0.99
00:28:51.000 So let me show you guys how I make mine.
00:28:53.000 First, we start off with the peanut pineapple and the cherry.
00:28:57.000 Let's go ahead and get that up in there.
00:29:02.000 Now you go in nice and ripe.
00:29:05.000 Let's go. 1.00
00:29:05.000 Hold that right there. 1.00
00:29:08.000 The viral Kool Aid pineapple.
00:29:09.000 These go for $20 a pop.
00:29:10.000 What do you think, man?
00:29:12.000 10 out of 10?
00:29:13.000 Yeah.
00:29:15.000 Juicy, huh?
00:29:16.000 I appreciate you, dog.
00:29:19.000 So, for those who can't see, this is the latest hot trend in the black culinary world.
00:29:23.000 They are making containers of Kool Aid, they're adding extra sugar to it, and then they are soaking pineapple spears in it.
00:29:32.000 And they're leaving them overnight to flavor them.
00:29:35.000 And I saw that, and I only had one thought enter my head I've got to try this.
00:29:40.000 And so, yesterday, Ryan and I went to the supermarket.
00:29:45.000 Let me show you, Russ.
00:29:46.000 You are lucky to be here.
00:29:47.000 Yeah, let's see it.
00:29:49.000 We have this.
00:29:52.000 Oh, yeah.
00:29:53.000 No.
00:29:54.000 No.
00:29:56.000 This.
00:29:57.000 Oh, wait.
00:29:57.000 And we have one more.
00:29:59.000 Describe that one.
00:30:00.000 We have that one.
00:30:01.000 Dark cherry.
00:30:02.000 We have dark cherry.
00:30:03.000 We have grape.
00:30:04.000 We have tropical punch.
00:30:05.000 We have the.
00:30:06.000 We took.
00:30:06.000 We add bottled water and then we poured in on them.
00:30:09.000 You made these.
00:30:10.000 We made this.
00:30:11.000 We made these.
00:30:11.000 We left them overnight, the proper amount of seasoning.
00:30:15.000 And we're going to try them.
00:30:17.000 Do you leave them in the fridge?
00:30:18.000 Do you leave them outside?
00:30:19.000 Just in the fridge.
00:30:20.000 Just in the fridge, right?
00:30:20.000 In the fridge overnight.
00:30:22.000 And you add extra sugar.
00:30:23.000 So I think we added about.
00:30:25.000 Half a cup of sugar to each of these jars.
00:30:28.000 And I were like, oh gosh, sorry, we're not in studio.
00:30:31.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:30:32.000 We see how it is.
00:30:33.000 We see how it is.
00:30:34.000 It didn't work out with the schedule.
00:30:35.000 Sorry about that.
00:30:36.000 What are you going to do?
00:30:37.000 Alrighty.
00:30:38.000 So I'm going to try the Tropical Punch one here.
00:30:40.000 Black Egg.
00:30:41.000 I've got to find out what this is like.
00:30:43.000 Let's do it.
00:30:44.000 All right. 1.00
00:30:44.000 So this is Black Cities. 1.00
00:30:47.000 Tropical Punch pineapple with Kool Aid. 0.93
00:30:52.000 Let's see how we go.
00:30:53.000 I'm ready to rate this.
00:30:57.000 Okay, not bad.
00:30:58.000 Eating the pineapple now.
00:31:00.000 Not bad.
00:31:01.000 It's going in.
00:31:02.000 I wouldn't eat this as a regular snack.
00:31:04.000 It is.
00:31:05.000 I like it.
00:31:05.000 You guys seem to like it.
00:31:06.000 I like it.
00:31:07.000 It's sugary.
00:31:07.000 It sounds great.
00:31:08.000 It's sugary.
00:31:09.000 Way too much sugar.
00:31:10.000 Way too much sugar.
00:31:11.000 It's like a funnel cake.
00:31:12.000 It's like a junk food I could have at a baseball game at a jazz festival.
00:31:17.000 I would 100%.
00:31:18.000 All right, I'm endorsing this.
00:31:20.000 I am endorsing Kool Aid pineapple to the world.
00:31:24.000 I don't know if I would make it in my washing machine.
00:31:26.000 I feel like.
00:31:27.000 Other stuff's gone through that washing machine.
00:31:29.000 There was a video I saw.
00:31:30.000 A guy was making it in his washing machine.
00:31:31.000 There was a video I saw.
00:31:32.000 A guy went to Costco and bought literally like a pallet full of jarred pineapple to do this.
00:31:41.000 It's good.
00:31:42.000 Not bad.
00:31:42.000 This is great.
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00:33:03.000 Blake, have you seen the video of that young white kid and he tries the pineapple Kool Aid and he's like, D-Big guy.
00:33:11.000 Have you seen this, Rust? 0.64
00:33:12.000 Do we have this?
00:33:13.000 Do we have this cut?
00:33:14.000 It went super viral. 0.50
00:33:16.000 It was like this young white kid and it was like a modern cashmere outside.
00:33:20.000 How about that moment? 0.77
00:33:22.000 Oh, we have it.
00:33:24.000 Play clip 17.
00:33:25.000 Wait, we had to play this.
00:33:28.000 Oh, yeah.
00:33:29.000 Appreciate you, brother.
00:33:37.000 Yes, sir.
00:33:40.000 I'm trying to take these out and they just splatter everywhere.
00:33:43.000 Yeah, they really do.
00:33:44.000 That was the first time I watched a video. 0.86
00:33:47.000 Otherwise, I'm a coward.
00:33:49.000 Did you drink the liquid, Blake?
00:33:51.000 Can you give it a gulp?
00:33:54.000 I'm not slurping the liquid.
00:33:56.000 That's a way to die.
00:33:58.000 That way lies perdition. 0.98
00:34:00.000 We were just talking about what can make you go to hell.
00:34:02.000 Well, I think gluttony is a sin, and I think literally just drinking half a cup of sugar.
00:34:08.000 In your Kool Aid water because you're just that decadent for sweetness, that might violate a commandment.
00:34:14.000 No, I'm not doing it either. 1.00
00:34:17.000 Black Tivities. 1.00
00:34:18.000 All right, so this is black cherry. 0.99
00:34:20.000 So here's the problem with slurping it you cannot see through this.
00:34:24.000 That's the issue.
00:34:28.000 There's so much stuff in here that you just can't.
00:34:31.000 That's a problem to me.
00:34:32.000 That's too much.
00:34:34.000 Black cherry Kool Aid pineapple is amazing.
00:34:37.000 I'm giving that my full, unambiguous, maximum endorsement.
00:34:41.000 That is amazing.
00:34:45.000 You guys got to go get this.
00:34:46.000 It takes 24 hours.
00:34:47.000 This is my favorite.
00:34:48.000 Wow.
00:34:49.000 This is my favorite. 0.51
00:34:52.000 Definitely not Maha approved, just so everybody's aware.
00:34:56.000 Oh, yeah.
00:34:56.000 I think Alex Clark shamed me on X when I understood that.
00:34:59.000 Okay, but could you make a Maha version of it?
00:35:03.000 I mean, you're talking about pineapple and sweet flavoring.
00:35:07.000 Could you make a Maha version of this?
00:35:10.000 Ooh.
00:35:11.000 I mean, yes.
00:35:12.000 What would Alex Clark do with taste?
00:35:14.000 I think it would just be more.
00:35:16.000 Pineapple forward at the end of the day.
00:35:19.000 Now I'm imagining like healthy Kool Aid and you put in stevia or something.
00:35:24.000 Stevia absorbed pineapple.
00:35:26.000 Stevia might not taste great.
00:35:28.000 I feel like you would lose some of the spirit of it because I think part of the spirit of this is it is a completely ridiculous food to actually consume.
00:35:35.000 Dylan in the chat goes, Watch Blake pull up to the hood to get his face.
00:35:39.000 Oh, 100%.
00:35:39.000 No, this is great.
00:35:41.000 Grape's good too.
00:35:46.000 Grape's good.
00:35:47.000 This is definitely a nice little snack, but don't make this a normal thing because.
00:35:54.000 All right, you guys, I mean, I hope everyone should get this.
00:35:58.000 This is amazing.
00:36:00.000 Everyone in chat should try.
00:36:02.000 Kool-Aid pineapple. 0.86
00:36:03.000 At least try it.
00:36:05.000 It's a fun little activity.
00:36:06.000 All right.
00:36:06.000 I'm so glad we did this.
00:36:07.000 But we have another topic to get to.
00:36:09.000 We can't marinate too long on Kool-Aid pineapple. 0.82
00:36:13.000 Jack, you wanted to talk about the downfall of the boomers in Hollywood. 0.99
00:36:18.000 They're finally being vanquished.
00:36:21.000 Well, I wasn't so sure if I saw it as much of a generational play in this because it's more than just this, but I more wanted to talk about the fact.
00:36:34.000 That Star Wars specifically has been beaten at the box office.
00:36:41.000 This movie, Mandalorian, that we let a boycott on, and then something decided.
00:36:47.000 I think only you did, Jack.
00:36:48.000 Everyone else was breaking the boycott.
00:36:51.000 Not actually listened to, which is kind of weird when you give the audience a mission and then the host of the show just don't follow it.
00:36:57.000 But, you know, whatever.
00:36:57.000 We'll figure out how to do podcasting one of these days or like political movements.
00:37:03.000 But the situation here is that.
00:37:08.000 This movie that was made by a YouTuber, and then the movie Backrooms, which so that was the movie Obsession, then the movie Backrooms, which is based on you know really just an online creepypasta, which turned into kind of a YouTube trend, both have beaten Star Wars in the past week at the box office, and I think that's huge.
00:37:35.000 Yeah, Backrooms and Obsession.
00:37:39.000 Yeah, I'm looking at.
00:37:40.000 So, you're a resident media guru.
00:37:44.000 Can you give us sort of the backstory on those two films, Obsession and Backrooms?
00:37:49.000 Just for anyone, someone who has no idea how it worked, they didn't really come up the traditional way, did they?
00:37:56.000 No.
00:37:57.000 So, the directors are.
00:37:59.000 They're Zoomers, right?
00:38:00.000 Zoomers, like YouTube guys.
00:38:03.000 And I mean, this also leads into, you know, Jack, you and I talked about it when we were.
00:38:10.000 When we were at the All American Halftime show, was the other movie that came out from a YouTuber, which was Iron Lung.
00:38:20.000 What's that?
00:38:20.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:38:21.000 And that was based off of a video game, but he's Markiplier, the one who directed that movie.
00:38:26.000 Yeah, Markiplier.
00:38:28.000 And that, Jack, you saw it.
00:38:30.000 Did that, that made its money back, didn't it?
00:38:33.000 Like, I have to double check.
00:38:34.000 I'm pretty sure it did pretty well.
00:38:36.000 Yeah.
00:38:37.000 Iron Lung.
00:38:38.000 I liked it a lot.
00:38:39.000 I thought that it could.
00:38:40.000 Had used a little bit of editing.
00:38:43.000 It was over two hours, which is ambitious for a movie that only has like one actor in it.
00:38:49.000 One character.
00:38:50.000 Yeah, I mean, there's some other characters in a few scenes, but no, it was a smash hit.
00:38:55.000 He spent $3 million on it.
00:38:56.000 It made $50 million at the box office.
00:38:58.000 And to that point, I think this comes down to what we're starting to see is this resurgence of movies that are lower budget, that are actually speaking with two audiences in a way that.
00:39:14.000 Are being able to take over the box office and push something out like a franchise like Star Wars and like the world.
00:39:21.000 Well, it's funny you say that because someone was saying, oh, Star Wars, this big franchise, got beaten by Backrooms.
00:39:27.000 And someone chimed in to basically say, actually, you only think that because you're over 40.
00:39:31.000 If you're actually under 30, this is a film that is already about a well established franchise.
00:39:36.000 And I went and I looked it up.
00:39:37.000 I'd never heard of the Backrooms creepypasta, but I hadn't heard of the series.
00:39:41.000 The first movie in the YouTube series that inspired that movie has.
00:39:45.000 Almost 100 million views.
00:39:47.000 Wow.
00:39:47.000 Wow.
00:39:48.000 Yeah, but it still started with a creepypasta.
00:39:50.000 There's no, there's no, I mean, that's just obvious.
00:39:54.000 That's, which is kind of the point.
00:39:55.000 100%.
00:39:56.000 But what it's saying is there's actually an established franchise, such as it is, of videos.
00:40:02.000 I think there's 30 entries.
00:40:04.000 It's like 30 episodes.
00:40:05.000 It'd be like, in a sense, it's the modern version of making a film out of a successful TV show.
00:40:10.000 And there's a lot of successful TV shows that have not had 100 million people view their first episode.
00:40:15.000 But apparently that's the case for Backrooms.
00:40:18.000 True.
00:40:18.000 There's, and that's making me aware of.
00:40:20.000 By the way, and Backroom started on 4chan, which is crazy.
00:40:25.000 So it did actually start on 4chan.
00:40:27.000 So here's a question that's, so what we're talking about though isn't necessarily the establishment of the franchise.
00:40:33.000 What we're talking about is the fact that there are now new paths to get to a wide audience, which is very similar to what we did with the Turning Point halftime show.
00:40:43.000 We use podcasts, we use, you know, conservative media, independent media.
00:40:48.000 To be able to get to this mass wide audience, you see this in elections with Turning Point Action, which does the exact same thing.
00:40:55.000 We're using non traditional means to reach out to these audiences, and we found success with that in terms of the viewership.
00:41:02.000 They're seeing huge success at the box office, and it's kind of just showing that the traditional gatekeeper models are broken.
00:41:09.000 And so, the fact that there's a huge YouTube series on it is just kind of making our point that this indie media is actually taking off in ways that the old system hasn't quite figured out yet.
00:41:23.000 Blake, I was thinking of an interesting question, though, would be how do you credit the original author of Backrooms if it was a 4chan poster?
00:41:35.000 Man, it'd be kind of funny if someone would like, here's a million dollars, and I will leave it in escrow and it will go to a person who can come forward and conclusively satisfactorily prove they authored that post.
00:41:52.000 It's funny.
00:41:52.000 And speaking of boomer zoomer divide, a weird thing about this is, Jack.
00:41:56.000 Is 4chan dead now?
00:41:58.000 I feel like I. When's the last time a new thing blew up because it was on 4chan?
00:42:03.000 Well, it's been so dead.
00:42:05.000 But it was dying before Elon bought X, but it died completely after Elon bought X.
00:42:12.000 And it's just not.
00:42:15.000 It had been brigaded too much, it had been inundated with too much just, you know, Anon slop.
00:42:24.000 I don't even know what you call it, just anti 4chan stuff.
00:42:27.000 That, yeah, I don't think anything new has arisen there, but at the same time, a lot of that same anon energy is now just on X.
00:42:34.000 And I suppose it's probably for the best because thinking about how X, thinking about how 4chan works with everyone being anonymous, it would get absolutely ruined by modern AI.
00:42:45.000 Everyone would just make an AI account and just spam things all over it.
00:42:48.000 So, in a sense, it probably died at the exact right moment where it could live on in our dreams.
00:42:54.000 I think it's really interesting.
00:42:55.000 It's not so much that it died, it's that it won and took over, took over the world, literally.
00:43:01.000 I also think there's a tendency for horror movies with very low budgets to go very viral and do well in the box office.
00:43:08.000 Like, this isn't the first time this has happened.
00:43:10.000 I think it was like Blair Witch Trials was one of it.
00:43:13.000 Paranormal Activities, Saw was one of these.
00:43:16.000 The Purge was one of these.
00:43:18.000 Insidious was one of these.
00:43:20.000 All of the movies I just named all had a budget under a million, 1.5 million.
00:43:27.000 Blair Witch Trials was like $20,000 to make, and it did $100 million in the box office.
00:43:31.000 So there's just a tendency for a lot of people who love horror movies to just support creators that are making a very low budget horror movie.
00:43:41.000 And then to just show up at the box office and to do it.
00:43:44.000 I don't know if that's like directly tied to the fact that Star Wars, also the Mandalorian Grogu, also came out around the same time.
00:43:52.000 I also think that this has more to say just about the people who are being put, like, who are doing these projects actually caring about the product.
00:44:04.000 Hilariously enough, going back to even just what we were talking about with the Christian energy drinks.
00:44:09.000 Like, when you look at YouTube now and like these directors were.
00:44:13.000 were YouTubers, the amount of like fan films or, or like, or small films that you can find that on YouTube that are really highly produced, but actually like hold on to the, the essence of whatever they're doing in a way that you're like, oh, wow, this is really good.
00:44:33.000 Like, I remember literally, I just watched one of the best things I've seen in a minute.
00:44:38.000 It was essentially the premise is, what if Wolverine was a Viking?
00:44:44.000 And honestly, probably the best depiction of Wolverine that we've seen in media in quite a long time.
00:44:54.000 I can really buy that.
00:44:55.000 And I think a big reason I can see it, especially in, I think this is the biggest weakness of Western big budget cinema, is that everything is coming through not just a corporate architecture, but it's a heavily editor and producer driven thing.
00:45:11.000 Everyone gets so many hands in the pot every single time.
00:45:13.000 So many cooks in the kitchen.
00:45:14.000 And you can get so much, you can get.
00:45:17.000 A lot of really terrible stuff, but the opportunity for something really brilliant when something is basically the work of one lone actor who can just decide whatever he wants.
00:45:26.000 And that's how you get things that are really memorable, really iconic, really different.
00:45:30.000 That's actually why the Star Wars prequels remain so iconic because George Lucas is this weird guy who just threw all this weird stuff.
00:45:37.000 And are they good movies?
00:45:38.000 No, but they're incredibly memorable as a result.
00:45:42.000 I'll say so I haven't seen Backrooms yet.
00:45:45.000 I did see Obsession.
00:45:46.000 And.
00:45:49.000 Just on that note, you can tell that Backrooms has such a unique kind of story and lore and the way it's set up.
00:46:01.000 And I love the way that it was created.
00:46:02.000 So, for people who don't know what it is, it's this idea that when you go into the back room of a hotel or a shopping mall or an office center or an office building or something, what really goes on in those liminal spaces, the spaces between the spaces?
00:46:16.000 And it's It plays with that and plays with the horror of those sort of spaces.
00:46:24.000 And so people would be creating their own stories, people would be creating their own versions of this.
00:46:30.000 And then eventually, after it had been quite viral for some time, this guy took to YouTube and started making his own movies of it based on a meme that had already existed.
00:46:42.000 And then that guy, in turn, became, I guess it was A24, came in and made him the director of this.
00:46:49.000 And he does have some, you know, he has quite a few celebrities that are.
00:46:52.000 That are in it.
00:46:53.000 So I can't say that this is completely indie, but the process certainly is.
00:46:58.000 And just incredibly unique, incredibly amazing.
00:47:02.000 Obsession, on the other hand, good movie, but it's not a unique premise at all.
00:47:08.000 The idea that you're gonna, it's the monkey's paw.
00:47:10.000 So it's just another monkey's paw kind of remake where he goes to a shop and finds that a, you know, take this thing and, you know, make one wish and it'll make whatever your wish come true.
00:47:24.000 So he says, Oh, I want this girl at my work to fall in love with me.
00:47:27.000 And then she does, and everything goes horribly wrong.
00:47:29.000 So I mean, that's not really a new premise.
00:47:32.000 It's well made.
00:47:33.000 It wasn't super scary.
00:47:35.000 So if you're not someone who's like really into horror, I would recommend it as a whole.
00:47:39.000 I'm definitely gonna have to check that out.
00:47:41.000 It's not a scary movie.
00:47:43.000 There is some gore here and there.
00:47:46.000 I didn't particularly find anything scary in the film at all.
00:47:51.000 And there's some good suspense, things like that.
00:47:55.000 But yeah, just as a premise, there was that movie Ruby Sparks that came out a couple years ago, which is more of like a romantic comedy version of the same thing.
00:48:01.000 It's got Paul Dano and I think his wife, Zoe, I forget her last name.
00:48:08.000 And she's the star of it, where kind of the same situation where a man controls a woman.
00:48:14.000 In all of this, but there's some good twists, there's some good discourse in it.
00:48:18.000 And funny enough, Bishop Barron posted a long review of Obsession, which I thought was really interesting.
00:48:26.000 That, you know, here's Bishop Barron commenting on the viral Zoomer movie of the summer, you know, and he had a great take on it.
00:48:34.000 He said, Don't mess with the demonic.
00:48:37.000 Yeah, absolutely.
00:48:38.000 Speaking of demonic, sorry.
00:48:39.000 I can't agree more.
00:48:40.000 I think that's.
00:48:42.000 Well, just real quick before you segue, I've always thought that that's a cool.
00:48:46.000 You know, that's kind of like an interesting use for horror that it's sort of like a backdoor way to, hey, bring people to Christ in a sense, because, hey, you need to have some counterbalance to the demons.
00:48:56.000 You can't follow that path.
00:49:00.000 Charlie used to talk a lot about Angel Studios and what they were building.
00:49:04.000 And as you know, I've been a longtime fan of it for the same reason.
00:49:07.000 So I wanted to share some of my favorite films and shows on Angel, and I put them all into one easy to use watch list.
00:49:13.000 This is content that's actually worth your time, not just noise or recycled talking points, but stories.
00:49:18.000 That go a level deeper and ask better questions.
00:49:21.000 That's what stands out about Angel to me.
00:49:23.000 They're willing to put out films and documentaries that don't just follow the usual script, especially when it comes to politics, culture, and the bigger conversations you and I should be having.
00:49:32.000 So, on my watch list, you'll find pics that lean into those topics, but there are also solid options for family or just something meaningful to watch at the end of a stressful day.
00:49:41.000 If you want to check it out, go to angel.com/slash Charlie and take a look at the watch list I put together.
00:49:50.000 Speaking of demonic, we saw this, and this is actually a lot scarier than any of the horror movies that we discussed, even the spookiest ones.
00:50:00.000 And this just flitted across my very mouth yesterday.
00:50:04.000 And it's the saga of Jesse Ridgway.
00:50:08.000 Jesse Ridgway has decided to tweet his wife's abortion.
00:50:13.000 Oh, yeah.
00:50:14.000 All right.
00:50:15.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:50:16.000 Wow.
00:50:16.000 I forgot that was the next topic.
00:50:18.000 Okay.
00:50:18.000 This is.
00:50:19.000 Yeah.
00:50:20.000 So, Russ, you're familiar with who this guy is?
00:50:24.000 I've seen some of his videos.
00:50:26.000 Like, I've seen clips pop up on my TikTok.
00:50:28.000 But he's a YouTuber called Mr. Jugger Nuggets.
00:50:34.000 Jugger Nuggets.
00:50:35.000 And he has 4.5 million subs or so?
00:50:38.000 Yeah, 4.34 million subs.
00:50:41.000 And what I've seen is that he makes essentially like content where it's like, oh, psycho.
00:50:48.000 Like, literally, this is a title of one of his.
00:50:50.000 Fake real videos.
00:50:51.000 Psycho Dad Destroys Twitch 2.
00:50:54.000 Yeah, Psycho Dad Runs Over Video Games with Lawnmower.
00:50:57.000 I saw that.
00:50:59.000 It's very vlog esque style, but he's been vlogging essentially, vlogging his life coming from his marriage and all of this different stuff.
00:51:11.000 So, one of those guys who's just publicly shown every part of his life has taken a really dark turn because yesterday, so Jesse and his wife had announced they were expecting, in fact, I think that Destroy Switch 2 was like their gender reveal, some nonsense like that.
00:51:23.000 And then he just announces this yesterday.
00:51:25.000 This week, my wife and I made the very difficult decision to terminate.
00:51:29.000 Our pregnancy due to trisomy 21, that's Down syndrome, the extra chromosome.
00:51:34.000 The choice was not made lightly.
00:51:35.000 We really appreciate all of the personal stories you guys shared with us, especially the unconditional support we received from fans, no matter what we decided.
00:51:44.000 So I guess he'd announced they'd found this and then left people in suspense about whether they would murder their child or not.
00:51:51.000 He goes on at length I know some of you will be very disappointed to hear the news.
00:51:56.000 Wait, Blake, so are you saying that he turned this into like.
00:52:00.000 Like an arc, like a LeBron decision.
00:52:02.000 Yes, yes.
00:52:02.000 So, literally, I kid you not, these are the last couple videos that he has.
00:52:07.000 The one we're having a baby two months ago, a month ago, Psycho Dad destroys Nintendo Switch 2, which was also their gender reveal.
00:52:16.000 And then a month ago, we received devastating news Psycho update.
00:52:21.000 Yeah, and they even they've done live tweet videos.
00:52:24.000 I'm actually going to warn you, there's nothing gory or whatever, but this is upsetting to watch.
00:52:28.000 Hard to watch.
00:52:29.000 This is a video.
00:52:31.000 Is there a chance?
00:52:31.000 Can I just can I say, is there a chance that this is all fake?
00:52:34.000 No, is there a chance that this is all?
00:52:36.000 I hope, you know, I guess I hope it's fake because otherwise they murdered their child, and that's what they're doing.
00:52:41.000 There's a chance that this is all.
00:52:43.000 I mean, it's a YouTuber, right?
00:52:44.000 So, I mean, you should perhaps take it with a grain of salt.
00:52:48.000 Based off the style of his videos and the fact that he's using X rather than just using YouTube, this does not come off as fake.
00:53:00.000 And they made this clip, which also, I mean, I guess they could have acted it.
00:53:03.000 People can act, but they made a clip about.
00:53:05.000 This is kind of their LeBron decision hype where they found out and they're reacting to it.
00:53:10.000 Clip 16.
00:53:11.000 Not the result we wanted to see, guys.
00:53:14.000 I started to get kind of a not good feeling just when the results were sitting here.
00:53:19.000 That's why I didn't want to open them.
00:53:21.000 I started to feel really uncomfortable about it.
00:53:26.000 Just kind of in shock, like truly.
00:53:28.000 We talked before this, guys, about what we would do if we confronted this scenario.
00:53:36.000 Because this was the more likely scenario.
00:53:39.000 We.
00:53:39.000 Talked about terminating the pregnancy.
00:53:42.000 Obviously, things could change because this is traumatic, like very traumatic.
00:53:48.000 And I know you guys, even watching this, this is traumatic for the whole community.
00:53:54.000 I think now that we have a definitive result, we'll talk with these counselors and we're going to have some hard conversations.
00:54:00.000 It's just all very overwhelming and confusing to navigate.
00:54:04.000 Ashley is almost halfway through this thing.
00:54:07.000 Not saying we forced it, but like the kids seem healthy.
00:54:10.000 And there's been stories where the kid comes out and is like super functional, and so it's like, I don't know, there's a lot to digest, and we're not really gonna be doing that in this video.
00:54:20.000 We just wanted to let you guys in on what the results were.
00:54:24.000 Oh, I was ready!
00:54:26.000 I was ready!
00:54:27.000 I had a start of life!
00:54:31.000 The start of our journey, you know, of just trying to start a family.
00:54:37.000 This is how it starts.
00:54:39.000 A lot of people, it's not easy ever.
00:54:42.000 You know, whether it's a miscarriage out the gate, you know, it's hard to look at like silver linings, but I mean, the fact that you can get pregnant is good.
00:54:53.000 We weren't sure, and it was, bro, it was instant. 0.93
00:54:57.000 We don't know why this happens.
00:54:59.000 Maybe it is a birth control over a decade.
00:55:01.000 Maybe it is just random genetic sequencing and it glitches, you know, just like cancer cells.
00:55:08.000 Like sometimes it's just, we don't know. 0.95
00:55:10.000 So I'm going to kill the camera. 0.99
00:55:13.000 That is one of the most dreadful videos I've ever seen in my entire life. 0.52
00:55:17.000 So just to understand the context, so because I saw the tweet that was up there that said, we have made the decision, but the decision here is this is when they got like the final confirmation of the Down syndrome.
00:55:29.000 It's when they got the.
00:55:31.000 The sheet of paper that let them know that they hadn't yet made the decision at the point of when they were filming this.
00:55:36.000 Correct.
00:55:37.000 Correct.
00:55:38.000 Okay.
00:55:39.000 Yeah. 0.95
00:55:39.000 What an awful husband. 0.95
00:55:41.000 Like she's crying next to him and he's basically encouraging her and encouraging their marriage.
00:55:46.000 Yeah.
00:55:46.000 No, exactly.
00:55:47.000 Like she's like, I was ready.
00:55:48.000 Like I was so ready and he's over here like, meh.
00:55:52.000 Like he could have, he could have, he's like, choice to be a good husband and been like, super chat.
00:55:57.000 This is our time to have a family.
00:55:59.000 Like, yeah.
00:56:02.000 He's a, I was awful.
00:56:04.000 And they go into all the horrible things where they say, okay, 50% of babies with Down syndrome have heart defects.
00:56:10.000 Many have hearing challenges.
00:56:12.000 I didn't realize how tough it would be for the child, let alone the family.
00:56:16.000 More often than not, they would be dependent on others for the rest of their lives. 0.69
00:56:20.000 So instead of that, we killed our baby.
00:56:22.000 Yeah. 0.98
00:56:23.000 This is such BS, too.
00:56:24.000 Like they're acting as though they're the victims here. 0.89
00:56:27.000 Like you're killing somebody.
00:56:29.000 You're killing somebody that did not have a choice.
00:56:33.000 And you're turning yourself into the victim.
00:56:35.000 How hard it is for you.
00:56:36.000 No, everything about this is evil.
00:56:39.000 Everything about this is evil.
00:56:40.000 Just wait.
00:56:40.000 It gets worse because we have.
00:56:44.000 Just to add that, because remember, they're monetizing their own grief.
00:56:48.000 Oh, 100%.
00:56:49.000 They're monetizing their grief.
00:56:52.000 And murder.
00:56:53.000 They're monetizing the murder of a child.
00:56:57.000 And they're saying that, as you say, they're the victims.
00:57:00.000 So, I mean, I talked about exploitation earlier, but this is like.
00:57:05.000 Exploitation of sin itself.
00:57:07.000 It's literally on, because I have the tweet open, it's suggested as a follow to me.
00:57:11.000 It just says this thing 4 million on YouTube, 2 billion views, creator of Psycho Series.
00:57:17.000 It's incredibly upsetting for me to just see all of his, I'm an influencer, here's how successful I am as an influencer.
00:57:25.000 He kills his baby, and then the whole process is live blogged from beginning to end.
00:57:32.000 Oh, we just got our test results, here's our reaction, and even.
00:57:36.000 Maybe someone else did this edit, but I suspect they did this themselves.
00:57:39.000 If that clip they did, it's got those jump cut, like little edits where, oh, we have to cut out dead hair.
00:57:45.000 I think the original video was three minutes.
00:57:48.000 I think somebody clipped it down just to cut out some of the pauses.
00:57:52.000 But to make matters worse, throw up 15.
00:57:57.000 He has a series of tweets that a year ago his dog was diagnosed with stage four cancer.
00:58:04.000 And I kid you not, in this tweet, it literally says, one of the saddest days of my life.
00:58:10.000 And dude, his dog is alive a year now.
00:58:15.000 Like, it will, like, it goes to the next one, and he's like giving a praise report.
00:58:20.000 But this is the guy who's over here saying that it's too much.
00:58:24.000 It's too much for his family to go to term with a child that's most, that's going to have downsizing.
00:58:32.000 He won't have a disabled child. 0.91
00:58:33.000 But this is, we'll spend the money to get our dog free of cancer.
00:58:38.000 Like, what?
00:58:38.000 Right now, this is, This is an example, and you can see it even personally.
00:58:45.000 I could hear it, you know, in his voice, the way he's talking.
00:58:49.000 You know, he's just someone who's very weak.
00:58:53.000 He's someone who lacks any physical or moral strength at all, is not willing to live for anyone other than himself.
00:59:04.000 Clearly, he doesn't care that his wife is crying there on camera and is more than willing to exploit her grief and that moment.
00:59:16.000 And oh my gosh.
00:59:19.000 Yeah, that is not sacrificial love.
00:59:20.000 Weakness, a cowardice.
00:59:22.000 A narcissism, a lack of actual love.
00:59:26.000 And yeah, it's just that's not a man.
00:59:29.000 That's not a man in our culture.
00:59:31.000 This is, you know, it's everywhere, it's just everywhere.
00:59:35.000 It's one of the most evil things I've ever seen.
00:59:38.000 You know, we were disagreeing what is evil at the start of this.
00:59:41.000 I think we're all in consensus.
00:59:43.000 This is one of those, yeah.
00:59:44.000 I want to shout out Zuzu who donated and said, This is what happens when you raise godless beta males.
00:59:49.000 Amen, Zuzu.
00:59:50.000 Definitely a part of it.
00:59:51.000 Amen. 0.99
00:59:52.000 I think it is certainly a beta male thing to kill your children as things become slightly difficult. 0.99
00:59:58.000 Ugh. 0.98
01:00:00.000 Yeah, I made sure not to.
01:00:03.000 I didn't engage with his tweet.
01:00:05.000 I saw it coming around and I made sure not to engage with it because Twitter bases monetization on engagement now.
01:00:11.000 So if I engage with it, he makes money.
01:00:13.000 Fair.
01:00:14.000 Yeah.
01:00:14.000 Very good.
01:00:14.000 Very good move.
01:00:16.000 Fair.
01:00:16.000 Yeah.
01:00:17.000 And I think about that stuff all the time.
01:00:18.000 I think about that stuff all the time, whether it's, you know, Jesus juice or stuff like this.
01:00:24.000 I just, I don't want to do anything that supports that kind of stuff.
01:00:27.000 I really don't ever.
01:00:28.000 All right.
01:00:29.000 Well, we have a hard out here, but this was some very fun topics.
01:00:33.000 One very unfun topic.
01:00:35.000 Happy birthday to Andrew.
01:00:37.000 Go, Nick Sangelo.
01:00:38.000 We're big 5 0.
01:00:41.000 And as always, everyone.
01:00:43.000 I asked him how 70 was. 0.86
01:00:45.000 The big 6 0.
01:00:47.000 Well, we'll see how that series goes.
01:00:49.000 Maybe it'll be over by next week.
01:00:50.000 Until then, keep committing thought crimes.
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