The Charlie Kirk Show - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 133 — The Male Ick? Naming 100 Women?

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00:01:17.000 Oh my, oh my, oh my.

00:01:21.000 Is it time once again?

00:01:23.000 Are we here, folks?

00:01:24.000 Are we here once again?

00:01:25.000 Oh, yes, it's another Thursday upon us, and that means it must be Thought Crime Thursday.

00:01:30.000 Or perhaps for me, today might be Beach Crime Thursday.

00:01:33.000 I'm not sure, folks, but we're all here.

00:01:36.000 In fact, some of us may be a little bit more remote. Than others.

00:01:40.000 What's up, guys, in your little studio in your little state called Arizona that doesn't have one of these right here?

00:01:48.000 Are you at one of those kind of beaches, you know, with all the teens running around?

00:01:52.000 Youths?

00:01:54.000 You're talking about beach crime.

00:01:57.000 That's what makes me think of it.

00:01:59.000 No, we don't.

00:02:00.000 Our beach crime is there. 1.00

00:02:04.000 The problem youths are not allowed in.

00:02:06.000 Yeah, these are ideological crimes.

00:02:08.000 Yes, of course. 1.00

00:02:10.000 But not like the Mamdani. 1.00

00:02:12.000 Ideological crimes. 1.00

00:02:13.000 Hey, Jack, you look like you're having fun, though.

00:02:15.000 And I don't, I don't, you don't look that much more tan, though.

00:02:18.000 I gotta be honest with you.

00:02:19.000 I'm not sure. 1.00

00:02:19.000 Do poles have the genetic? 1.00

00:02:21.000 It's pretty tan out here. 1.00

00:02:22.000 I don't know.

00:02:23.000 It must be the lighting, Jack.

00:02:25.000 Yeah.

00:02:25.000 You must be.

00:02:25.000 No, yeah.

00:02:26.000 I'm like, I got the sun like right over me as we're taping this, but like, I am.

00:02:30.000 You're not swarthy like us Mexicans.

00:02:33.000 I'm looking like Beat Red. 0.99

00:02:34.000 No, it's because I'm not Mexican like you. 1.00

00:02:36.000 Yep. 1.00

00:02:38.000 Do the whole show like this.

00:02:40.000 Oh, they got a new Taco Bell sound effect.

00:02:42.000 Taco, Taco.

00:02:43.000 Oh, that was a Taco Bell.

00:02:45.000 I was like, what is that?

00:02:46.000 I'm quarter Mexican, but according to 23andMe, it's mostly Iberian.

00:02:50.000 Oh, okay.

00:02:51.000 All right.

00:02:51.000 We're going to need to see this.

00:02:52.000 We're going to need to police it.

00:02:53.000 I don't even know how to log into it.

00:02:55.000 Once I found out they were going to use it to biohack me someday, I was pretty upset that my mom made me do it.

00:02:59.000 But true story.

00:03:01.000 I'm mostly Iberian. 0.98

00:03:03.000 That's the Spanish. 1.00

00:03:04.000 If one person in your family does it, then they got you. 1.00

00:03:07.000 Oh, yeah. 0.71

00:03:07.000 My mom did it. 0.71

00:03:08.000 My brother did it.

00:03:09.000 My dad did it.

00:03:10.000 It was like early days.

00:03:11.000 Early days of 23andMe.

00:03:13.000 Yeah.

00:03:13.000 Now they all have the unalterable rights to all our genetic code.

00:03:17.000 I wasn't thinking creatively enough at that point.

00:03:19.000 So.

00:03:20.000 I can't spell.

00:03:22.000 All right.

00:03:23.000 What are we talking about today?

00:03:24.000 Well, we have a lot of topics.

00:03:24.000 All right.

00:03:26.000 What if we just hang out and we just chill?

00:03:29.000 What if we just do a chill stream?

00:03:31.000 We're not allowed to do that, though, Jack.

00:03:33.000 We have a job to do, Jack.

00:03:34.000 We have thought crimes.

00:03:35.000 Chill crime.

00:03:36.000 We're not allowed to chill because our first topic is about the ick. 1.00

00:03:41.000 And everyone knows that women get the ick the most from men just chilling out and relaxing. 1.00

00:03:46.000 It drives them absolutely unhinged. 0.98

00:03:49.000 And so you decided to turn the tables, Jack.

00:03:52.000 I did.

00:03:55.000 What is a male ick?

00:03:56.000 Yeah, you see, Jack asked. 0.99

00:03:57.000 I was just like listening to liberal women whine about. 1.00

00:04:00.000 Well, no. 1.00

00:04:02.000 So, I mean, that could be an example of one, right? 0.78

00:04:05.000 So, women came up with this thing called the ick recently, you know, a couple of years ago, I don't know.

00:04:11.000 And they said, oh, you know, this gives me the ick, or this about this guy gives me the ick.

00:04:17.000 And it's been this phrase, you know, that comes along.

00:04:20.000 And so I wanted to say, okay, you know, I've been listening to this for years now, and it's time for the fellas to have a turn, have a run, if you will, a run for the ring, a run for the trophy. 0.90

00:04:33.000 And I said, Gentlemen, what about women gives you the male ick? 0.71

00:04:38.000 What produces the ick in men? 0.68

00:04:41.000 I got one. 1.00

00:04:42.000 Women do behavior or physical accoutrements, if you will. 1.00

00:04:50.000 And let me just say, this thing went viral, viral, literally just one tweet and popped off. 0.94

00:04:56.000 I love, by the way, how can I just say real quick before we get into it that none of the guys required any explanation on my behalf.

00:05:03.000 Of about like what exactly I was talking about, they were all just like they immediately just popped in and started answering.

00:05:10.000 All right, who wants to go first? 0.99

00:05:12.000 I feel like I would be irresponsible going first, so I've got one when they have a penis. 0.99

00:05:19.000 Okay, I mean, that's that goes without saying. 0.99

00:05:22.000 Okay, but have you actually encountered that in real life?

00:05:25.000 No, okay, this is a true story.

00:05:27.000 So I'm at a bar, this didn't happen to me.

00:05:29.000 It was my roommate at the time, I was living in California, and we went out to a bar in Santa Monica, and we're all hanging out.

00:05:37.000 And actually, my wife was with me.

00:05:39.000 So I was married at this point.

00:05:40.000 So it was post roommate, but he was my roommate one time.

00:05:43.000 And, anyways, so we go to this bar, and he comes to me.

00:05:46.000 He looks at me directly and goes, That woman right there is the most beautiful woman I have ever seen.

00:05:52.000 Oh, no.

00:05:53.000 And this is where it gets really weird. 1.00

00:05:58.000 It was a tranny, just to get ahead of it. 1.00

00:06:00.000 And it turns out that the tranny was engaged to a dude, and they were both Canadian. 1.00

00:06:09.000 And he thought that the transgender person was the most beautiful woman he'd ever seen. 0.98

00:06:13.000 It was a very female looking man at that point. 0.90

00:06:17.000 I don't know how long they were on hormone therapy, but once you knew, you were like, oh, okay, I see it. 0.52

00:06:25.000 Okay, but then if you could see it, it was dark, admittedly.

00:06:28.000 And that was the most beautiful woman he'd ever seen.

00:06:31.000 I remember looking at him going, like, bro.

00:06:36.000 He went ghost white.

00:06:37.000 He went ghost white.

00:06:38.000 And yeah, I. I'm not going to mention this.

00:06:42.000 Is there something that gives you the ick from something that doesn't have a Y chromosome?

00:06:46.000 Yes.

00:06:46.000 Okay.

00:06:47.000 What gives me the ick actually is women shouting their abortions. 1.00

00:06:52.000 That's definitely pretty good, right? 1.00

00:06:52.000 That's not good. 1.00

00:06:54.000 That's pretty good.

00:06:55.000 All right.

00:06:55.000 Russ, you recently.

00:06:57.000 Yeah.

00:06:57.000 My ick was definitely in my past relationship.

00:07:02.000 Anytime she lost her vape, she started freaking out.

00:07:06.000 So at that point, I was just like, anybody who was just connected to the fruity pacifier. 1.00

00:07:13.000 That was like, it was a vapes in general kind of give me the ick with women. 1.00

00:07:17.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:07:18.000 Yeah.

00:07:20.000 Anything I'll throw out, I mean, I'll throw out a couple that came out in my sort of impromptu poll.

00:07:26.000 So, a big one was septum piercing, nose piercings in general.

00:07:31.000 That came out a lot.

00:07:32.000 That's a big one.

00:07:34.000 They're saying women with like women have just gotten like gone overboard with tattoos was a big one.

00:07:40.000 But one thread, or I should say, a common theme that I encountered was.

00:07:46.000 And this wasn't trans necessarily, but more of like a learned behavior was sort of the theme of like women acting like men, women acting masculine. 0.75

00:07:58.000 So, cursing, binge drinking, dropping their voices to a lower register when they speak, vocal fry. 0.99

00:08:06.000 I think all of these different things that women have been doing lately. 1.00

00:08:10.000 You kind of get what I'm putting out. 1.00

00:08:12.000 You know what I mean?

00:08:14.000 And it just gives the ick.

00:08:16.000 It's like, why are they. 1.00

00:08:17.000 Why are female athletes and other people, when they talk, they just really put it out there and we're going to lay it out on the field? 0.97

00:08:29.000 And it's like, why are you doing that? 0.96

00:08:30.000 Why are you talking like that? 1.00

00:08:31.000 I don't know many women like that. 0.99

00:08:33.000 I'm not sure I've encountered that.

00:08:34.000 But it was very interesting.

00:08:35.000 Blake, you have dated.

00:08:36.000 Yeah, I've dated.

00:08:38.000 Definitely, definitely, I would endorse all the septum piercing ones.

00:08:41.000 That one's always really bothered me.

00:08:46.000 I always just think of the intrusive thought I always have with septum piercing I imagine it getting caught on something and then you're hooked on it like that.

00:08:54.000 And that's.

00:08:55.000 And it could rip out.

00:08:56.000 I think about that and it really bothers me and I can't get that visual out of my head.

00:09:01.000 So it always viscerally upsets me.

00:09:04.000 To see that, I don't even like the ones on the side that those are really common now.

00:09:07.000 Like, they'll get the really thin ring on the side of their nose.

00:09:10.000 I really don't care for those either.

00:09:11.000 And those are really common.

00:09:13.000 Not into it.

00:09:13.000 Calf tattoos.

00:09:16.000 I'm in general.

00:09:17.000 We've had the tattoo debate.

00:09:19.000 We've had the tattoo debate before.

00:09:21.000 You don't have to give a specific.

00:09:22.000 No, but like, specifically, I will say one I haven't heard yet. 1.00

00:09:24.000 Usually, the women that get those have like the really like muscular calves. 1.00

00:09:28.000 One I will say for sure is too many muscles. 1.00

00:09:32.000 Too many muscles.

00:09:32.000 Too much drunkenness.

00:09:33.000 Too muscular.

00:09:34.000 Say.

00:09:34.000 Like, if they're obviously inebriated.

00:09:36.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:09:37.000 Do the binge drinking.

00:09:39.000 Or not even puking, just like when they're really out of it.

00:09:41.000 Like, it's actually, it's not pleasant to see.

00:09:44.000 I totally agree.

00:09:45.000 In general, that's unpleasant, but it actually goes to that masculine behavior.

00:09:49.000 When they swear too much.

00:09:51.000 Swearing too much.

00:09:52.000 Right.

00:09:53.000 Being nasty to someone I see mentioning here, being nasty to weight staff.

00:09:57.000 That's something that's really off putting.

00:10:00.000 That's big.

00:10:01.000 That's a fear that I've encountered.

00:10:03.000 Most of these are not stuff that I've actually encountered dating, but one that I have is.

00:10:08.000 Where they'll like brag about doing manipulative or Machiavellian behavior.

00:10:16.000 I've encountered this and I didn't understand what it was trying to communicate because it kind of just sent the message like, I did something evil and got away with it.

00:10:24.000 And I could not understand why that would be appealing. 0.99

00:10:27.000 And you think that's just a female trait? 1.00

00:10:28.000 I don't know that it's a female trait, but it's a trait that a woman did that gave me the egg and a boo. 0.89

00:10:32.000 That's just, that's, that's, I hate to say it, but that's pretty, I think men, men are guilty of that. 0.99

00:10:39.000 Men are equally.

00:10:40.000 Machiavellian behavior? 1.00

00:10:42.000 No, women are much better at that sort of thing, I think. 1.00

00:10:44.000 No, women are better at it. 1.00

00:10:46.000 That's totally a woman thing. 1.00

00:10:48.000 Men are confrontational in terms of their interactions and disagreements. 1.00

00:10:53.000 Men are confrontational, whereas women who lack the physical strength of men become less confrontational and they become more subversive. 0.84

00:11:03.000 Subversion, manipulation, there's even a term for it feminine wiles. 1.00

00:11:10.000 These are the female strategies for success or destroying their enemies. 1.00

00:11:19.000 It's kind of like the old adage when they say, if women were president, we'd have no wars. 1.00

00:11:24.000 And I'm like, you're right, because they would have nuked the entire planet and there would be no wars to fight. 1.00

00:11:32.000 Women don't like that. 1.00

00:11:34.000 There were studies on that because we have a good case study in the sense of the. 1.00

00:11:40.000 Of the United Kingdom, where obviously there's been many kings and queens that goes back hundreds of years, over a thousand years.

00:11:46.000 And when I forget the exact number, but it did actually come out, and I want to say it was a Cambridge study, something like that, where when England had a queen, they were more predisposed to go to war than when they had a king.

00:12:04.000 That this is actually borne out if you look at British history. 0.85

00:12:07.000 I could believe that.

00:12:08.000 Queens more likely to go to war than kings.

00:12:10.000 A kind of creepier one. 0.98

00:12:11.000 You know, we've covered like FGM, female genital mutilation, which they do in fundamentalist societies.

00:12:18.000 And they've actually studied basically how enthusiastic people are about that. 0.79

00:12:23.000 And it's like old women doing it to younger women who are like the most aggressive in like mutilating them and like messing them up. 1.00

00:12:29.000 That'll take us. 1.00

00:12:34.000 So all that gives the ick.

00:12:35.000 Caboose.

00:12:36.000 Caboose.

00:12:36.000 Yeah, Caboose.

00:12:37.000 You have to tell us what.

00:12:38.000 Now I've definitely got the ick. 1.00

00:12:40.000 Yeah, my ick is sorority girls because they get sort of that mob mentality where it's. 1.00

00:12:45.000 They just don't think rationally when they're together. 0.92

00:12:48.000 That's basically based on my experience from working on a college campus. 1.00

00:12:52.000 So, just girls when they're in groups. 1.00

00:12:55.000 Girls in groups. 0.77

00:12:56.000 Girls when they're hanging out in groups. 1.00

00:12:58.000 Caboose is endorsing Islamic principles. 1.00

00:13:00.000 They should be in their hijab, in their home, not allowed to call me. 1.00

00:13:03.000 No, I did not say that. 1.00

00:13:05.000 Stop it.

00:13:09.000 So, I saw a really good one.

00:13:10.000 There was a great interaction lower down the thread, and I had to retweet it because somebody, just one follower of mine, had said, Constantly dragging any conversation to be about them.

00:13:22.000 To which a woman replied and said, Woman here, a man using the phrase gives you the ick, gives me the ick.

00:13:30.000 And he just wrote, Case in point.

00:13:34.000 Case in point.

00:13:36.000 We're not talking about you for five seconds.

00:13:39.000 Well, that gives me the ick.

00:13:41.000 Again.

00:13:41.000 Hold on.

00:13:42.000 I just want to say, I do think there is kind of like a theme right now with like woman bashing within the conservative movement.

00:13:52.000 And it's probably not okay. 0.81

00:13:55.000 Some of it is very much deserved, but I want to bring the sexes back together. 0.88

00:14:00.000 I want us to find harmony, you know, in God's design.

00:14:04.000 I don't want us to always be this gender war thing.

00:14:06.000 If you, Jack, you've experienced this too, I'm sure, like with like turning point students, they all like the men hate the women and the women hate the men and they're just like at each other's throats.

00:14:15.000 It's not good.

00:14:16.000 It's not good.

00:14:17.000 How do we fix this?

00:14:18.000 There's the way you fix it is ultimately, ultimately. 1.00

00:14:24.000 The enemy is the enemy here is modern feminism. 1.00

00:14:28.000 The enemy is actually modern feminism, which is completely not conservative. 0.97

00:14:33.000 It is not trad.

00:14:34.000 It is not Lindy.

00:14:35.000 It is this idea that pushes women into male roles and completely distorts the traditional gender roles of society.

00:14:46.000 And a lot of the stuff that we talk about is like this.

00:14:49.000 And a lot of this, a lot of the issues that we have described here, even on this program for years at this point.

00:14:57.000 All come back from this, and it's we are surrounded and we are inundated with feminist propaganda from anytime you walk into a library as a little kid to when you go to school to when you go to Hollywood. 0.90

00:15:09.000 So you're just constantly surrounded by, you know, women can do anything, women are, you know, yes, she can, and all of this stuff. 0.76

00:15:17.000 Whereas young men, and as someone who has two boys, that, you know, you don't see any of these types of programs for, oh, we're going to help young boys get into STEM or we're going to help young boys have a track up.

00:15:30.000 So, you know, we do have to acknowledge, I think, that we live in a society that is governed very much by girl boss longhouse feminism.

00:15:39.000 And until we deal with that and be able to wrestle that down into a place where women are told, once again, that actually that's not good for you and it's not going to give you the outcomes that you want, you're going to continue to see these conflicts.

00:15:54.000 But also go to men and say, look, just because you're upset with women and just because you're upset with women the way they are, you also have to understand that doesn't That doesn't mean that we should go and bash women and, you know, trash them and all the rest of it.

00:16:06.000 It just means that you have to be good men as well, or else you, you know, you're just going to have the separation of the sexes and you're going to have it turn into a situation that we call the end of society.

00:16:21.000 It feels like our country finally has momentum again with our leaders fighting to restore common sense and American first values.

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00:17:32.000 So I had Andrew Wilson on.

00:17:34.000 We did like a long interview.

00:17:35.000 For those who don't know Andrew, he's a debater and he's like really good at logic, orthodox guy.

00:17:42.000 Yeah, his wife, too.

00:17:42.000 Really fast.

00:17:43.000 Actually, does a lot of stuff.

00:17:45.000 What's that?

00:17:46.000 His wife, Rachel Wilson, has been like, yeah, no, exactly. 1.00

00:17:49.000 They're like the power couple, anti feminist power couple. 0.99

00:17:52.000 They both do Rogan and stuff like that.

00:17:54.000 So, anyways, he was, you know, he was kind of like grilling down on what I thought about different things.

00:18:01.000 And it was interesting.

00:18:01.000 I was doing the same to him.

00:18:02.000 But, you know, basically what it comes down to is probably the most important issue is fertility and making sure Americans can achieve the American dream, affordability, all this stuff.

00:18:13.000 But, like, Fertility.

00:18:14.000 Like, we got to get fertility rates up. 0.77

00:18:16.000 Like, Hungary's tried this.

00:18:18.000 Everyone's trying it.

00:18:19.000 Everybody's trying to.

00:18:20.000 I mean, do you know South Korea is under one now?

00:18:22.000 Oh, they're like nine?

00:18:23.000 They're like under 0.8.

00:18:24.000 They're like at 0.7 or something.

00:18:25.000 South Korea is actually under North Korea.

00:18:29.000 North Korea has a higher birth rate than South Korea, which is nuts. 0.94

00:18:33.000 Anyways, basically, the whole darn thing, the whole civilizational project comes down to can we create enough babies? 0.97

00:18:41.000 But Blake has been white pilling me on this. 0.97

00:18:43.000 No racial.

00:18:45.000 Connotations at all, but it actually is kind of like a white pill, right? 0.62

00:18:50.000 We like white Americans, our fertility rates are bouncing back.

00:18:53.000 What's interesting is when you look at who's holding together, what's actually crashing is kind of the third world is crashing because they're getting basically fried by smartphones and TikTok.

00:19:05.000 But what's holding up is kind of who we'd most want to have kids like married couples who are upper middle class.

00:19:13.000 They're like ideologically more pro having kids, they're more.

00:19:16.000 They're telling their kids to get married and to have kids.

00:19:19.000 And like they're continuing to do so.

00:19:20.000 And some of them, it's even rising.

00:19:22.000 And so I'm kind of my optimistic long term take is basically Midwest nationalism that we're just going to have people like my siblings who are all married off, all having kids now.

00:19:31.000 And like they're going to have kids and they're going to have, you know, my cousins are all having kids. 0.73

00:19:36.000 I think they're the future of America is going to be these like middle class just pumping out four or five kids. 0.72

00:19:43.000 Let's go. 0.95

00:19:43.000 Well, I was just hanging out in Colorado with four couples and over the last weekend and there were 12 kids and a 13th on the way. 0.95

00:19:52.000 Pretty dang good.

00:19:53.000 You know, I mean, it was just like everybody's having a lot of kids.

00:19:55.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:19:56.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:19:57.000 It was absolute pandemonium.

00:19:59.000 Okay, so, Jack, you know how our Women's Leadership Summit always draws controversy?

00:20:05.000 You know, like every year?

00:20:06.000 No, never.

00:20:07.000 Women's Leadership Summit. 0.77

00:20:08.000 It used to never.

00:20:09.000 It was like, I remember Charlie talked about this.

00:20:11.000 He's like, we've been doing this event for like nine, 10 years, and like nobody ever, it was never like a big deal.

00:20:15.000 Everybody's like, I'm so glad you're getting the women together.

00:20:17.000 And then all of a sudden it got like controversial.

00:20:20.000 Like something about women and leadership in the same sentence, it was like, it just like triggered online dudes.

00:20:26.000 I'm going to play a clip that CNN did about the Women's Leadership Summit.

00:20:31.000 And I want to hear from all the dudes here, including you, Caboose.

00:20:35.000 Did these women pass the test? 0.99

00:20:38.000 Did they pass the test, the man test? 1.00

00:20:42.000 Sot 16. 1.00

00:20:43.000 Feminism is the biggest lie we have ever been sold as women. 0.71

00:20:46.000 But the attendees have had a little more nuance in their analysis. 0.99

00:20:50.000 Some have even said, you can have it all.

00:20:53.000 From what I see, society has co opted the word feminism, which should just be the equality of the sexes, which I really do believe in. 0.87

00:21:00.000 To be something of pushing the other sex down, which I really don't believe in. 0.87

00:21:04.000 I run three companies and have a nonprofit and adopted children. 0.98

00:21:08.000 So I feel like the messages to me were that women can do it all. 0.98

00:21:13.000 And how do you see that as different from feminism? 1.00

00:21:17.000 Good question. 0.59

00:21:18.000 That is a great question. 0.99

00:21:19.000 I feel like feminism is the pursuit of I need nobody and I don't need a man, I don't need others.

00:21:27.000 So I feel like the left is so focused on feminism equals abortion and that's like.

00:21:31.000 Not at all what feminism should be for.

00:21:33.000 It should just be like, how can we empower women to fulfill what they feel like their calling is? 1.00

00:21:37.000 A lot of the left say that they don't need men, but we do. 0.98

00:21:43.000 Did they pass?

00:21:44.000 I was pretty good.

00:21:45.000 That was pretty good, right?

00:21:48.000 Because ultimately, like Brigitte Bardot, right? 0.98

00:21:51.000 When the great French actress, Rest in Peace, that when she was asked once, Are you a feminist? she replied, No, because I like men too much.

00:22:01.000 And that's a great quote, though. 1.00

00:22:14.000 That at the root of feminism is the hatred of men. 0.92

00:22:18.000 And that all of this equality of the sexes and empowerment stuff that they talk about is actually just window dressing in the same way that most social justice programs are, in that it's actually a thinly veiled.

00:22:33.000 You know, patina on resentment and envy.

00:22:37.000 Whereas, like, yeah, you can have empowered women and you can have successful women, but without the misandry. 0.99

00:22:44.000 Let's try one more clip.

00:22:45.000 It goes on. 1.00

00:22:46.000 I want to see do the turning point women at Women's Leadership Summit pass the man test? 0.61

00:22:53.000 Sot 17. 0.55

00:22:54.000 Speaker Savannah Stone is a married 21 year old who's built an audience advocating for traditional gender roles in a sometimes provocative way. 1.00

00:23:03.000 Submission gets a bad rep because it's seen as slavery. 1.00

00:23:06.000 For whatever reason.

00:23:08.000 But submission is a trust and it's teamwork.

00:23:11.000 It means the woman serves the husband and the husband lays down his life for the wife because women are controlled by their emotions and men are controlled by logic.

00:23:18.000 She goes viral a lot on TikTok for talking about women submitting to their husbands, being submissive.

00:23:24.000 What do you think of that?

00:23:25.000 I mean, that's what the Bible calls us to do.

00:23:27.000 So that's what I think is true.

00:23:29.000 The words sound kind of crazy and a little controversial.

00:23:33.000 But I mean, I believe what the Bible says and I think what's true.

00:23:37.000 And I think she said it great in there.

00:23:40.000 Did these women pass the ICS test?

00:23:42.000 Did CNN pass the ICS test? 1.00

00:23:44.000 They made it sound like a crime, like a true crime.

00:23:46.000 I know.

00:23:46.000 Like, did you hear the music in the background?

00:23:48.000 It was like, Yeah, yeah.

00:23:51.000 Like trying to make it happen.

00:23:53.000 Or like, who wants to be a millionaire?

00:23:55.000 And it's like the final ending.

00:23:56.000 It's like, is that your final answer?

00:23:58.000 And they're like, yeah, the Bible says submit, so we should submit.

00:24:01.000 I thought it was pretty dang good. 0.98

00:24:04.000 I was proud of these women. 1.00

00:24:06.000 They did well.

00:24:07.000 Do we have another one?

00:24:08.000 Oh, wow.

00:24:09.000 I don't know if we need to play it or not, but it's up to you guys.

00:24:13.000 Are people liking this?

00:24:14.000 Caboose.

00:24:15.000 Should we play another one?

00:24:16.000 Go for it. 1.00

00:24:17.000 I'd say these women passed the egg test just by being at a Turning Point USA. 1.00

00:24:23.000 Oh, good point. 1.00

00:24:26.000 I love that.

00:24:29.000 All right.

00:24:32.000 Sad 18.

00:24:34.000 Last one.

00:24:36.000 Certainly, past the ICTech.

00:24:41.000 No, Hey, you guys are dealing with these really angry young men online, like incels, the Andrew Tates, the whatever. 1.00

00:25:04.000 You guys need feminists right now to defend you and to defend your dignity as a person. 0.99

00:25:11.000 What would you say to that? 1.00

00:25:12.000 I would say it's all about how we approach it, though.

00:25:14.000 I think by screwing me back at them isn't going to help.

00:25:17.000 Oh my gosh, knocked it out of the park. 0.94

00:25:19.000 That last answer right there, where she's trying to, she's trying to, she's loading up everything.

00:25:24.000 She's like, what about Andrew Tate?

00:25:26.000 What about the internet?

00:25:26.000 What about this?

00:25:27.000 What about incels?

00:25:28.000 And she just goes like, Well, why, if we're just nasty back, then isn't that just going to make the situation worse?

00:25:35.000 Amazing.

00:25:36.000 Amazing.

00:25:36.000 Yeah.

00:25:37.000 Genuinely, I was floored by this.

00:25:39.000 And I mean, the music makes it sound so ominous. 1.00

00:25:42.000 Look at these crazy women at this conservative event. 0.97

00:25:45.000 Wait, by the way, one insight that I have, though, is we should all point out that this, as it's a turning point event, you have to imagine that this is a room full of women that have watched hours upon hours of Charlie Kirk on campus. 0.82

00:26:01.000 And there was no one better ever at turning around a gotcha question than Charlie Kirk.

00:26:07.000 And so now you're seeing the Charlie effect that when you try gotcha questions on turning point kids, it doesn't work.

00:26:13.000 It doesn't work.

00:26:14.000 It's kind of like racism when they would like hurl racism.

00:26:16.000 Everyone's just like, they'll say, like, that's racist.

00:26:16.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:26:18.000 It doesn't work anymore.

00:26:19.000 Yeah, we had to like build up antibodies.

00:26:21.000 I'm telling you, you could track the political discourse in the Overton window in this country just based on like what antibodies have we developed recently to the liberal malaise and the accusations they hurl at us.

00:26:33.000 And it's funny because you'll see other ones fade.

00:26:35.000 So we've gotten very good at suppressing the racism label.

00:26:39.000 But now we need antibodies, I think, against old fashioned socialism.

00:26:43.000 Yeah.

00:26:44.000 That now everyone's like, oh, what if we team up with the socialists against wokeness?

00:26:48.000 No, don't do it.

00:26:50.000 It is funny.

00:26:50.000 We have kind of come full circle.

00:26:52.000 You brought up Charlie, Jack, and it's like, how did Turning Point start? 0.99

00:26:55.000 It was socialism sucks. 0.98

00:26:58.000 And now we got to deal with it again. 0.98

00:27:00.000 And by the way, who are the most likely to be socialists?

00:27:00.000 Got to remind everyone.

00:27:03.000 Crazy women with septum piercing. 1.00

00:27:08.000 Young women were always the most enthusiastic members of the party. 1.00

00:27:13.000 Yep.

00:27:14.000 And it's not working out so well for New York.

00:27:17.000 They're going to drive away all the productive people.

00:27:19.000 If you are a business, if you are an entrepreneurial person right now, and you just happen to be coming up, let's say in Queens, you're coming up through the ranks, you're like, I got this great idea.

00:27:29.000 You're not going to do it in New York if you can help yourself.

00:27:31.000 You're going to get the hell out.

00:27:32.000 You're going to go to Florida or whatever.

00:27:35.000 I don't know.

00:27:36.000 You'd go somewhere.

00:27:39.000 This happens in California all the time, by the way.

00:27:41.000 It's just like people have these businesses, they might grow them a little bit, but once they get to any size that they're making any money and they're paying any kind of taxes, they'll move to Arizona or Texas.

00:27:50.000 Anyways, that's kind of not our topic. 1.00

00:27:51.000 We have another female topic.

00:27:53.000 We have multiple women topics, so we could talk about artificial wombs or we could talk about 100 women. 0.99

00:27:59.000 I mean, we did make you take the test.

00:28:01.000 We're making Russ take the test right now. 1.00

00:28:03.000 He says 100 women. 0.93

00:28:05.000 100 women. 0.96

00:28:05.000 All right. 0.96

00:28:06.000 This is a fun challenge we've made everyone do over the past couple of days, and Russ is doing it right now.

00:28:12.000 It was not a fun challenge. 1.00

00:28:13.000 This was stupid. 1.00

00:28:14.000 This is an amazing challenge. 1.00

00:28:15.000 Something's great about that.

00:28:16.000 There was a challenge, or someone said online basically, like they're daring everyone.

00:28:20.000 Can you name.

00:28:22.000 100 real women, living or historical.

00:28:25.000 And then some hero made a literal app you can go to.

00:28:28.000 If you search like 100 women game, you'll probably find it.

00:28:30.000 It was so hard.

00:28:31.000 It's stressing me out.

00:28:33.000 My partner is sweaty.

00:28:34.000 How far are you?

00:28:35.000 We're at 28 minutes and 50 seconds on Rust.

00:28:39.000 41 out of 100.

00:28:41.000 How many minutes?

00:28:42.000 I got 28 minutes.

00:28:44.000 Who have you been naming?

00:28:45.000 I started it as we started the podcast.

00:28:49.000 It took me less than 18 minutes.

00:28:51.000 I'm trying.

00:28:52.000 I don't know why I'm blanking.

00:28:54.000 Let's bring up the different results here.

00:28:57.000 Uh, and we're also sending it to Caboose, he's got to start taking it.

00:29:00.000 But, uh, do we have uh, let's see, Andrew's list in here, I've got to look at yours.

00:29:06.000 Uh, I mean, so the whole premise of this is that it's easier to name 100 men than 100 women, which is a no, no, hold on, hold on.

00:29:12.000 No, no, remember one of the rules was that it, it, yes, has to be real women, but it also has to be like notable women.

00:29:20.000 And I believe, uh, the rubric that they used was do they have a Wikipedia page?

00:29:25.000 Yeah, that's a pretty reasonable standard.

00:29:27.000 There's a lot of Wikipedia pages, and you tried, but it's 18 minutes and 10 seconds.

00:29:32.000 Right.

00:29:33.000 So it's not like you're naming just like you can't just name women you know, right?

00:29:38.000 Like we can all my mom.

00:29:39.000 They have to be notable women. 1.00

00:29:41.000 So, like actresses, singers, notable women of history. 0.99

00:29:44.000 You know, has a Wikipedia page kind of women.

00:29:48.000 I'm actually good with mine.

00:29:49.000 I just, so I started off with Sarah Palin, Whoopi Goldberg, Hillary Clinton, Jasmine, AOC.

00:29:56.000 And then I just, I got so stuck that eventually I just started doing all the conservative women I could think of.

00:30:02.000 That's a fair way to do it.

00:30:03.000 Yeah.

00:30:04.000 I did Elise Stefanik.

00:30:06.000 Helen Andrews, Ann Coulter, Caroline Levitt, Anna Polina Luna, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Lauren Bobert, Dana Perino, Dana Lash, Phyllis Schlafly, Martha McCallum.

00:30:14.000 I mean, I just, I think I hit them all, basically.

00:30:16.000 No, please continue.

00:30:17.000 Keep going.

00:30:18.000 Oh, I thought it was still working.

00:30:20.000 I didn't get that one.

00:30:20.000 I'm plugging away at 44.

00:30:22.000 Who do you have here? 0.97

00:30:25.000 Eva Lilly? 0.99

00:30:27.000 I don't know who that is. 0.53

00:30:27.000 I got Angela Murray. 0.53

00:30:28.000 Courtney Cox.

00:30:30.000 Zendaya.

00:30:30.000 Yeah, I got Laura Bush.

00:30:32.000 Lynn Cheney.

00:30:34.000 Just one name.

00:30:35.000 Okay, whatever.

00:30:35.000 Cheney Carana.

00:30:36.000 Cody Cole.

00:30:37.000 I got Erica Kirk at number 11.

00:30:40.000 I got her in the car.

00:30:41.000 Just after Tulsi and Joan of Arc.

00:30:46.000 I did the Supreme Court justices. 1.00

00:30:50.000 I did all the females on the Supreme Court.

00:30:51.000 But then I forgot.

00:30:52.000 Elena Kagan, Sona Sotomayor.

00:30:54.000 No, that's what's crazy.

00:30:54.000 Yeah.

00:30:55.000 You start doing this and you literally space who's the woman on the Supreme Court that Trump picked.

00:31:01.000 You totally forget.

00:31:02.000 I did mine in about seven minutes.

00:31:04.000 My first woman was Caitlyn Jenner, which I'm pretty proud of. 0.94

00:31:07.000 They accept Caitlyn Jenner as a woman.

00:31:09.000 And then 100% organically, I'm not making this up.

00:31:13.000 You can't do that.

00:31:14.000 My 99th and 100th, I was like, okay, going through history.

00:31:17.000 I had a bunch of historical ones, and I was like, World War II women, Anne Frank, and then 100 was Eva Braun, which was Hitler's class. 0.55

00:31:23.000 Oh, gosh. 0.74

00:31:24.000 Oh, gosh.

00:31:24.000 My 100th was Kim Reynolds.

00:31:26.000 Oh, gosh.

00:31:26.000 I had, but yeah, you'd go, I would go like, okay, first lady.

00:31:29.000 So it was just, you could see him here Abigail Adams, Laura Bush, Barbara Bush, Melania Trump, Nancy Reagan, Pat Nixon.

00:31:34.000 I was in like seven minutes, though.

00:31:36.000 And I would just go through a bunch of topics.

00:31:36.000 Yeah.

00:31:37.000 I would do athletes. 0.64

00:31:38.000 So I have like Mia Hahn, Hope Solo, Brandy Chastain. 0.92

00:31:41.000 She's the one who made that shootout goal in Ripper's.

00:31:43.000 I was seven.

00:31:44.000 I was under eight minutes.

00:31:45.000 I was seven something.

00:31:47.000 I had all six of Henry VIII's wives Catherine of Aragon, Anne Boleyn, Anne of Cleves, Jane Seymour, Catherine Howell.

00:31:54.000 Yeah, but did you get Dolly Parr?

00:31:55.000 Catherine Parr?

00:31:57.000 I actually got Dolly Madison, but not Dolly Parton, which is pretty funny.

00:31:57.000 I didn't.

00:32:03.000 I got Nicki Minaj and Cardi B.

00:32:05.000 They accept saints, by the way.

00:32:07.000 So you can just be like St. Lucie, St. Agatha, St. Mary, Mary Magdalene, Salome. 0.99

00:32:10.000 Like biblical women is a good way to go. 0.94

00:32:12.000 I didn't think of saints. 1.00

00:32:12.000 Saints would have been great. 1.00

00:32:14.000 Yeah, tons of saints. 1.00

00:32:15.000 What actresses did you get? 1.00

00:32:16.000 Let me see here. 1.00

00:32:17.000 I think I had Nicole Kidman.

00:32:19.000 I had Natalie Portman, Meryl Shawan.

00:32:19.000 I got her.

00:32:21.000 Street, Nicole Kidman, Beyonce, Ella Langley, and then I started.

00:32:26.000 Oh, I got Sandra Bullock, Angelina Jolie, Jennifer Lawrence.

00:32:30.000 I hope all of you have Erica Kirk.

00:32:33.000 She's accepted.

00:32:36.000 She was number 11 for me.

00:32:37.000 She was 63 for me.

00:32:38.000 I got to the politics ones a bit later.

00:32:40.000 So I am insane enough that after Caitlyn Jenner, which was funny, I literally went historical. 0.64

00:32:44.000 So I thought, who's the most ancient woman I can think of?

00:32:47.000 So I had Hatshepsut, who was the first female pharaoh of Egypt.

00:32:51.000 And then I did Cleopatra.

00:32:51.000 Wow.

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00:34:16.000 Jack, who did you get?

00:34:17.000 Who'd you get, Jack?

00:34:19.000 I had so my hundredth was Melania.

00:34:22.000 Um, I didn't do like actresses, I stuck with more like politics.

00:34:27.000 So I was doing like a bunch of like those, you know, how like in the EU there's a bunch of like um, you know, uh, female leaders.

00:34:34.000 So yeah, I did Ursula von der Leyen, I did Kaya Callis.

00:34:38.000 I did Sana Marin.

00:34:41.000 Did you get Liz Trost?

00:34:42.000 I don't know why.

00:34:44.000 What was your most obscure name?

00:34:48.000 Most obscure.

00:34:50.000 I wish they gave us that data.

00:34:53.000 I did, like, I mean, I have a few, like Dianne Feinstein, Madeleine Albright.

00:34:58.000 I think my most obscure guy, eyeballing this list, I think my most obscure one has to be Pulcheria, who was a virgin empress of the Roman Empire in the 400s.

00:35:08.000 I was doing like Maisie Hirono and like Kay Ivey, and I was just going through like governors and senators and stuff.

00:35:08.000 I see.

00:35:15.000 I got all three Bronte sisters.

00:35:17.000 That's a good one.

00:35:18.000 Three Pete, if you know all of them.

00:35:19.000 Charlotte Bronte.

00:35:19.000 I don't know who.

00:35:20.000 If I was thinking about it, I could have done Emily Bronte.

00:35:23.000 Did Wuthering Heights.

00:35:24.000 And then you got to have Anne Bronte, who did, I'm sure, something really nice if you're into that sort of thing.

00:35:29.000 Like, do you know Charlie Soong and the Soong sisters?

00:35:32.000 I know the Soong sisters.

00:35:34.000 I couldn't remember their names off the top of my head. 0.99

00:35:36.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:35:37.000 So it's like one is married to Sun Yat sen, one was married to Chiang Kai shek. 0.54

00:35:41.000 I okay.

00:35:42.000 I did Carly Fiorina. 1.00

00:35:44.000 Suck on that. 1.00

00:35:45.000 Carly Fiorina. 1.00

00:35:46.000 Wow.

00:35:47.000 All righty.

00:35:48.000 I don't know why it popped into my head.

00:35:49.000 I had uh, I had Matahari, the only famous female spy in history.

00:35:53.000 It took Matahari.

00:35:54.000 Wasn't Matahari her code name?

00:35:56.000 Yeah, they they take it.

00:35:57.000 It fits their Wikipedia name, but I think she's there as Matahari.

00:36:00.000 Whatever the Wikipedia name is.

00:36:01.000 What about Usha Vance?

00:36:01.000 Okay.

00:36:04.000 I didn't get Musha Vance.

00:36:05.000 I got Usha.

00:36:06.000 I didn't put Usha Vance.

00:36:07.000 I got Usha.

00:36:08.000 I didn't put that.

00:36:09.000 Uh, I did a I later did a bonus list just to see if I could do her first name.

00:36:12.000 My first name was Caitlyn Jenner.

00:36:14.000 What was your first name, Jack?

00:36:17.000 Erica. 1.00

00:36:18.000 Ah, suck up. 1.00

00:36:19.000 I did Sarah Palin for some reason. 1.00

00:36:22.000 Why Sarah Palin?

00:36:23.000 I don't know. 0.71

00:36:24.000 Sarah Palin was yours.

00:36:25.000 Because when I, oh, yeah, I thought it was like, for some reason, when I thought, like, okay, notable women who have a Wikipedia, and I was just like, okay, Erica.

00:36:32.000 Because I was starting it with, like, I'm like a concentric circles guy.

00:36:36.000 Like, I start with people that I know.

00:36:38.000 So, like, well, I know her.

00:36:39.000 And then, because then I went to the cabinet, right?

00:36:42.000 I had like Pam Bondi, even though she's not.

00:36:43.000 Uh, technically in the cabinet right now, Tulsi, et cetera.

00:36:46.000 Like, I went with Caroline Levitt, like, I went with people who are like in that concentric circle of like people I'm friends with, people I work with, people I know from like politics, and then like I just moved my way out from there.

00:36:56.000 See, that's what I really like.

00:36:57.000 That's your impulse, and I think that's what a lot of people would do.

00:37:00.000 You went to like heavily in conservative media, and then I'm like, I must go back to 5000 BC and work my way forwards and think of who comes to mind.

00:37:10.000 And so I had Egyptians, then I had Romans.

00:37:13.000 Then I had Saints. 0.68

00:37:15.000 Then I jumped to First Ladies.

00:37:16.000 Then I jumped to Henry VIII's.

00:37:17.000 Saints is a great idea.

00:37:19.000 I wonder if you could almost hit.

00:37:21.000 I wonder how many you could get with just Saints.

00:37:23.000 Would you have to write a hundred?

00:37:24.000 You could easily probably hit 100, but I got about 15 and then ran out of Saints.

00:37:27.000 I did from number 65 to 100 all conservative women.

00:37:32.000 Janine Pirro, Joni Ernst, Alvita King, Megan McCain, Kaylee McEnany, Mary Miller, Katrina Pearson.

00:37:38.000 What?

00:37:40.000 Oh, sorry.

00:37:40.000 No, I'm just thinking of Saints now.

00:37:42.000 Oh, man.

00:37:42.000 I did.

00:37:43.000 It took.

00:37:44.000 I did a second list where my first one was actually Charlotte Corday, who was a right wing assassin in revolutionary France.

00:37:52.000 You're just so obscure. 0.96

00:37:53.000 Yeah, I go for those girls.

00:37:55.000 And then the last two I got because they both have their own pages Malia Obama and Sasha Obama. 0.75

00:38:00.000 Malia.

00:38:01.000 Whatever. 1.00

00:38:02.000 Malia. 1.00

00:38:03.000 I should have done more communist women. 1.00

00:38:05.000 I did get Kamala. 1.00

00:38:06.000 I did get Kamala.

00:38:07.000 Like Madame Mao, Jiang Qing, and then Ulrich Meinhoff from the Meinhoff Bader Group and just gone down.

00:38:17.000 The list of all the people.

00:38:17.000 I will note everyone, by the way, is that he is at 37 minutes and you have 64 names.

00:38:22.000 So you're remembering about two women a minute.

00:38:25.000 He's just writing down what we're saying.

00:38:27.000 He's writing down what he's saying and trying to remember how to spell it.

00:38:29.000 Did you do the mail version, Jack?

00:38:31.000 Did you do the mail version?

00:38:33.000 You do have to spell.

00:38:34.000 You do it.

00:38:34.000 Yeah, you have to spell right, which is annoying.

00:38:37.000 I did the mail version.

00:38:37.000 That was pretty forgiving.

00:38:38.000 The mail version, I could just do it.

00:38:40.000 It was literally as fast as I could type and it took me a little under six minutes.

00:38:43.000 I didn't do the same thing.

00:38:45.000 No, there were a couple where I missed one, like I got an A and Instead of an E, like I got the vowel mixed up and they wouldn't.

00:38:50.000 I just had to re spell Caroline Levitt like four different times.

00:38:53.000 Yeah, I found this one was pretty generous.

00:38:55.000 Like I misspelled, I did like Queen Elizabeth, the Queen Mother, and like I misspelled Mother and it still gave it to me.

00:39:02.000 I didn't do anything.

00:39:03.000 Could you just do like Queen Victoria 1, Queen Victoria 2, Queen Victoria 3?

00:39:06.000 Yeah, you can little cheat.

00:39:07.000 So, I did notice someone I knew did it, and they just, you know, there's actually many Cleopatras in ancient Egypt, so you could do like eight Cleopatras in a row, and I felt that would be a lot of fun.

00:39:16.000 Yeah, because wasn't the Cleopatra that ended up with Mark Antony like Cleopatra VIII?

00:39:20.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:39:21.000 She's a late one because it's the end of the dynasty. 1.00

00:39:23.000 So, they all had that stupid name. 1.00

00:39:24.000 Angela's like, I did 30 female wrestlers. 1.00

00:39:27.000 You can totally do that for the 100 men, by the way.

00:39:29.000 You can literally just go, well, there were 17 Louis in France.

00:39:32.000 Louis won, two, three, four, five.

00:39:33.000 There's 47 presidents.

00:39:34.000 Well, 46.

00:39:35.000 Yeah, but they at least have different names.

00:39:36.000 They're not just Louis and a Roman numeral like a Super Bowl.

00:39:40.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:39:41.000 Fair enough.

00:39:41.000 Anyway, all of you should look up the Name 100 Women game, and if you send a screenshot to freedom at charliekirk.com, I will look at them at least.

00:39:49.000 I don't know if we'll ever look at this again.

00:39:51.000 Let us know.

00:39:51.000 Is it harder to name famous notable women than it is famous notable men?

00:39:55.000 Is that the patriarchy?

00:39:57.000 Is that systemic oppression?

00:39:59.000 Or is that just the way the cookie crumbles?

00:40:00.000 I don't know.

00:40:02.000 I don't see it as just speaking for myself, I don't see there being any difference between naming men or naming women.

00:40:12.000 I think you'll pretty.

00:40:13.000 Quickly discover, at least if you're a guy. 1.00

00:40:15.000 I mean, maybe for women it's different. 0.68

00:40:17.000 And I'd be interested.

00:40:18.000 I wonder if, like, could Daisy name 100 men before she could name 100 women, for example? 0.73

00:40:22.000 Because Daisy did fill it out and she had a lot of authors and actresses and singers that I knew. 0.99

00:40:26.000 Now, can women, can women, can women do this?

00:40:30.000 Oh, genuinely.

00:40:33.000 As soon as we started doing this, I was like, this is not something turning on me.

00:40:35.000 It does not suit my brain.

00:40:37.000 It's a fun challenge.

00:40:38.000 It's a fun challenge.

00:40:39.000 Everyone should take it.

00:40:40.000 You can get a screenshot of your results.

00:40:43.000 There's like a link to click it, although Jack didn't.

00:40:45.000 So we can't look at his full list.

00:40:47.000 Shame, Jack.

00:40:47.000 All right.

00:40:48.000 No, I got mad because I put my wife in and it wouldn't take Tanya Posobic, and I got mad, so I shut it down.

00:40:53.000 And then I didn't realize that we were supposed to screenshot.

00:40:55.000 So I really want to get to this next topic, Jack, because you just interviewed the director of this.

00:41:00.000 And that is, of course, Citizen Vigilante.

00:41:03.000 Way to watch that last night.

00:41:05.000 On the planet.

00:41:07.000 So, I mean, as far as how good the movie is, Jack says it doesn't matter.

00:41:10.000 We've got to tell people what it is if they're out of the loop on this one.

00:41:13.000 We should play the trailer.

00:41:14.000 Okay.

00:41:14.000 All right.

00:41:16.000 I have a take on this where, like, I would say for what it was going for, it was perfect.

00:41:23.000 That's a bold take.

00:41:24.000 It's the trailer.

00:41:25.000 I believe clip number two is the trailer.

00:41:27.000 Let's show.

00:41:28.000 The truth is this you are all being used.

00:41:38.000 The vigilante citizen is delivering a brand of justice that some believe the authorities have failed to provide, targeting both criminals and those in power accused of allowing crime to flourish unchecked.

00:41:52.000 There's been a lot said about me, so I thought you should hear directly from me.

00:41:57.000 I'm here to help you take that control back.

00:42:02.000 The state, court, police.

00:42:06.000 See, you think that they've failed you, but they haven't.

00:42:10.000 Now they only exist to control you.

00:42:15.000 Do you want justice?

00:42:18.000 Yes.

00:42:19.000 Let's get some fresh blood.

00:42:24.000 You walk down the street and you get stabbed or robbed.

00:42:29.000 We need more guys like this one.

00:42:32.000 What does your country do?

00:42:34.000 Nothing.

00:42:35.000 Our current system is failing to protect our citizens.

00:42:41.000 He's like the real deal.

00:42:44.000 He's playing with us.

00:42:47.000 What if everything they ever taught you was utter nonsense?

00:42:59.000 We can change history.

00:43:05.000 Okay.

00:43:06.000 Oh, yeah.

00:43:07.000 So, Blake, give the premise.

00:43:09.000 Well, wait a minute.

00:43:11.000 Before we review, we should explain that, like, what this is, just for folks, if you haven't heard anything.

00:43:18.000 That's what I was about to do, Jack.

00:43:20.000 Sorry, sorry.

00:43:20.000 I thought you were doing the review.

00:43:21.000 Go ahead.

00:43:22.000 No, yeah, no.

00:43:22.000 The premise.

00:43:23.000 So, the premise of this film is it's basically set in Europe.

00:43:27.000 Uwe Boll's German, although someone says, We need this guy in Germany, so it might be set in a different country.

00:43:33.000 It's Croatia.

00:43:34.000 Croatia?

00:43:35.000 Okay, it's Croatia explicitly.

00:43:36.000 But it's filmed in such a way that it kind of doesn't matter. 0.64

00:43:39.000 It's a European every place, sort of.

00:43:41.000 They have their monies in euros, all of that.

00:43:43.000 But anyway, the idea we know Europe has had these grooming gangs.

00:43:47.000 They have random migrant stabbing attacks. 0.72

00:43:50.000 They have these migrants housed in hotels. 0.83

00:43:52.000 They have a real migrant crisis, a migrant crime crisis.

00:43:55.000 And the premise of this movie is that Army Hammer is a citizen vigilante.

00:43:59.000 He's a guy who he is. 0.60

00:44:02.000 Some of these migrant criminals who've been in grooming gangs or have done other crimes. 0.53

00:44:07.000 And he is being a vigilante. 0.87

00:44:09.000 He is getting revenge on them, taking justice into his own hands.

00:44:13.000 And also, not just the criminals themselves, but the judges who are doing it.

00:44:19.000 And it's so controversial that it's, for all intents and purposes, banned in Germany.

00:44:23.000 They refuse to give it a rating, so it can't be released in theaters.

00:44:26.000 You could watch it on your home computer.

00:44:28.000 It's not illegal to possess, but to show it.

00:44:32.000 I went and.

00:44:34.000 Which, by the way, is crazy to say illegal to possess, which is actually a thing in Germany.

00:44:39.000 That I went and so I interviewed the director this week on Human Events.

00:44:44.000 And during that interview, I actually went and just pulled up, like, okay, let's pull up a random movie theater in Germany and see which films are being shown, Uwe Boll.

00:44:54.000 And it was like Obsession, which, of course, we talked about last week, which is incredibly violent.

00:45:01.000 The Odyssey, which, again, is a war movie, like all war movies are very, very violent.

00:45:06.000 Django Unchained was doing some kind of remake, or not remake, like a replay of that, re showing, and which again, one of the most violent films ever made, which is something to be said for the fact that it's Quentin Tarantino and all of his movies are famously ultra violent.

00:45:25.000 And so you can imagine just all of those films, perfectly fine to be shown in Germany.

00:45:30.000 And of course, by the way, The Punisher is also available on Disney Plus Germany right now, which is literally a vigilante film about a guy who kills criminals.

00:45:39.000 All right.

00:45:40.000 So here, I think, is one of the reasons it's getting banned in Germany.

00:45:44.000 This is a pretty viral clip from the film.

00:45:48.000 This is when Army Hammer, who has been canceled himself, they call him a cannibal.

00:45:55.000 I'm told that that's reliably untrue.

00:45:57.000 He was just a.

00:45:58.000 Just talk.

00:46:00.000 He was a.

00:46:01.000 Locker room talk.

00:46:02.000 He was a famous, rich Hollywood actor that enjoyed women.

00:46:07.000 Let's just be honest.

00:46:08.000 Locker room talk.

00:46:09.000 Yeah, anyways.

00:46:10.000 I'm not here to defend Army Hammer, but he is the.

00:46:12.000 He is the lead here, so let's play this clip.

00:46:15.000 Sot 6.

00:46:17.000 So I guess you're wondering why I'm here.

00:46:23.000 Are here because of my son, because of the court.

00:46:27.000 The court to free him. 0.95

00:46:29.000 And is the court from your country?

00:46:31.000 Of course. 0.99

00:46:33.000 Because your son and his friends had to rape that 14 year old girl. 1.00

00:46:36.000 They were so traumatized from their childhood that they couldn't keep their dicks in their pants. 1.00

00:46:42.000 He's young. 0.99

00:46:43.000 He doesn't know nothing.

00:46:46.000 Is that why you did it, Yusuf? 0.85

00:46:48.000 I'm sorry.

00:46:50.000 I'm sorry we did that.

00:46:51.000 We thought she wanted it.

00:46:53.000 And now she lives every single day afraid of what you and your friends might do since you were acquitted.

00:47:01.000 It was very good work by your attorney, by the way, painting them as the victim.

00:47:05.000 What was it? 0.51

00:47:07.000 Traumatic integration?

00:47:09.000 We're really getting mental help now and support.

00:47:13.000 We will be better in the future.

00:47:15.000 I promise that.

00:47:16.000 It's the right answer.

00:47:19.000 The only problem is that on your social media, Since the event, I have not seen any regret or empathy. 0.99

00:47:29.000 In fact, I think you said that she deserved to be raped. 0.99

00:47:33.000 What I mean is that they dress wrong and just make boys horny with their mini skirts. 1.00

00:47:39.000 They show their legs and breasts. 1.00

00:47:41.000 You wrote that she deserved it. 0.93

00:47:45.000 I will delete it.

00:47:49.000 Are these the values you're teaching your children?

00:47:52.000 I teach them the values from the Quran and these values from our family. 0.98

00:47:57.000 Well, if these are your values, that women in America and Europe deserve to be raped because of a dress code, why did you come here? 0.93

00:48:07.000 You know that we have several war in our country and we have a dangerous life. 0.96

00:48:13.000 That's why we are here.

00:48:15.000 And I think you know that.

00:48:16.000 Do you know what I think?

00:48:18.000 Why?

00:48:19.000 I don't think it was the good ones that got out of your country.

00:48:22.000 I think it was the bad ones.

00:48:24.000 And I think you brought with you your archaic value system and your commitment.

00:48:31.000 To religion over democracy and over anything else, including the rule of law.

00:48:40.000 And how does that scene end, Jack? 0.75

00:48:42.000 They do, they get better.

00:48:43.000 As he said, he's like, you'll get better.

00:48:44.000 They get better.

00:48:45.000 And they are all made better.

00:48:47.000 They're all one happy family.

00:48:49.000 So I think in that scene, right, they lure.

00:48:51.000 He goes full vigilante.

00:48:53.000 Yeah, he was luring that family and then some of the other friends that took part in. 0.83

00:48:59.000 No, no, it's the other rapist. 0.99

00:49:01.000 The other rapist. 1.00

00:49:02.000 Yeah, the other rapist. 0.98

00:49:03.000 It lures them in there, and then you can imagine it's called citizen vigilante. 0.54

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00:50:32.000 You know, watching it back, I'm like, wow, he really went.

00:50:34.000 And that's what it takes to.

00:50:36.000 I mean, that's why the movie's going viral right now because it's like. 0.97

00:50:39.000 Go into the Quran, they go into like you sent the bad ones. 0.58

00:50:42.000 I mean, like, this is it speaks to a primal id, and I guess this is now where Jack and I debate it because I think have all of us seen the movie at this point? 0.97

00:50:51.000 Yeah.

00:50:52.000 So all of us have watched the movie, Jack, possibly at three times speed.

00:50:56.000 And I did watch it at three times speed.

00:50:59.000 As much as I'd love to like it, this is Uwe Boll, who famously makes bad movies.

00:51:04.000 Most of the movie's not very good.

00:51:06.000 That's probably the best scene in the movie right there.

00:51:08.000 Yeah.

00:51:09.000 The last 30 minutes.

00:51:10.000 So, I mean, it's like a B movie action, you know, ride on the seat of your pants kind of thriller.

00:51:20.000 It's not meant to be like.

00:51:22.000 War and Peace, right?

00:51:23.000 It's not a Tolstoy.

00:51:25.000 It's literally like, we're going to go in, we're going to throw some stuff at you that comes straight from the headlines.

00:51:30.000 And by the way, he told me that in his interview that we did, that these crimes, they're not just similar to certain crimes that you've seen, obviously, this gang rape.

00:51:42.000 He's referring to actual crimes and basing it on actual crimes that have happened across Europe.

00:51:48.000 So he brought up the mass rape of a 15 year old in Hamburg.

00:51:52.000 That in that instance, the judge let everyone off.

00:51:56.000 They actually did not face jail time and had said, oh, well, they were victims too, victims of society because they were not allowed to fully assimilate and therefore they were lashing out at a society that would not assimilate them.

00:52:10.000 He brought up Arena Zarutska.

00:52:12.000 He brought up a number of things that have happened in the US and Europe that just literally straight from the headlines that we talk about every day.

00:52:20.000 And he said, let me put that all into a video because.

00:52:23.000 I feel like, and he was totally right in saying this that there's so many people out there that if you're not a news junkie like all of us, if you're not doing this every day, if you're not focused on it, you may not even know that all of this is going on.

00:52:38.000 So, an incredible way to present that, and the most effective way to present that, of course, is through a story, through a film.

00:52:45.000 It was, I found it legitimately jarring to watch.

00:52:49.000 I have many of the same, it's a gory movie.

00:52:51.000 I have many of the same critiques.

00:52:52.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, there's not a movie for kids.

00:52:54.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:52:55.000 I guess so.

00:52:57.000 The bigger picture, of course, is this is a film that presents vigilantism as either a solution or at least an appealing way to go about things.

00:53:07.000 And we understand that Death Wish was popular for a reason as well.

00:53:10.000 So I guess what would stand out to me is if we're going to have a viral movie that's presenting vigilantism as an understandable response to what's going on with migration, I guess I wish the person was more sympathetic because the way the character Hammer's playing is basically.

00:53:30.000 Kind of a psychopath, like he actually he himself murders random people in the film, which I thought was very strange.

00:53:38.000 He does, uh, deal with the judges too, not just the judges, but like while he's there's a scene where he's driving with a judge and he's kind of saying, like, most people they just you know they're they're sheep who follow the rules no matter what.

00:53:49.000 And he so he drives into the wrong side of the road and makes someone else swerve off the road and crash, and their car explodes.

00:53:55.000 Like, that person's probably dead because they wanted to follow the rules, so he just killed the random innocent person.

00:54:00.000 It's a very, as a flex.

00:54:02.000 Yeah, it's like an anarchist.

00:54:03.000 It's almost a nihilistic film in some ways.

00:54:05.000 Let's go ahead and play one more clip.

00:54:07.000 Maybe the character is, but I mean, I'll just say, having talked to him, you know, he wasn't.

00:54:13.000 I didn't get the sense that he was advocating for vigilantism.

00:54:18.000 That's not something that he said to me.

00:54:20.000 It was just more that he was thinking, what would the type of person be like if they were to become a citizen vigilante?

00:54:29.000 And the opening scene is of a.

00:54:32.000 Of a migrant stabbing a mother in front of her young son.

00:54:36.000 And it's sort of left unspoken.

00:54:38.000 I didn't actually ask him, but it's sort of left unspoken as to whether or not that was the origin story of the main character.

00:54:44.000 And it could sort of be read both ways.

00:54:46.000 He does sort of talk about how his mother had been killed and his father sent him off to boarding school in America.

00:54:51.000 And so it's, I didn't take it as advocating for vigilantism, just more of like a vehicle for these types of issues to be talked about in public.

00:55:04.000 Except for the fact that part of the film was literally that they shot scenes of people on social media being like, this guy is so cool.

00:55:17.000 That does read as it's promoting advocating for vigilantism.

00:55:24.000 Which, again, if the director wasn't quote unquote advocating for vigilantism, his art was sure advocating for vigilantism.

00:55:35.000 That's to be fair.

00:55:37.000 We should play SOP 5.

00:55:38.000 This is him going after the judges.

00:55:39.000 Yeah.

00:55:49.000 Judge Reinhold.

00:55:50.000 Who are you?

00:55:51.000 Hear from the Chief Inspector's office.

00:55:53.000 We have new information that's come to light.

00:56:03.000 It's gonna be very suspicious when that turns up in your blood, isn't it?

00:56:06.000 Let's hope they don't run a toxicology report on your body.

00:56:12.000 Who knows?

00:56:13.000 Maybe you have a bit of a tolerance for heroin.

00:56:17.000 You seem to like heroin dealers anyway.

00:56:20.000 How many of them have you let back onto the street?

00:56:25.000 The laws are meant to protect the victims, right?

00:56:29.000 It's not the perpetrators.

00:56:31.000 Maybe that's when you lost your North Star.

00:56:33.000 When you started using the laws to help people hurt people.

00:56:40.000 You know, it's not just the perpetrators.

00:56:41.000 You cause collateral damage, Judge.

00:56:45.000 It's people like you letting people get away with rape and murder.

00:56:50.000 Excusing their behavior. 0.79

00:56:53.000 Letting people get away with rape and murder. 0.99

00:56:57.000 Six boys raped a 14 year old girl. 0.88

00:57:01.000 I saw your interview in front of the courthouse. 0.81

00:57:04.000 I saw you say that these boys just had an adjustment issue.

00:57:10.000 That they didn't know how to fit into society.

00:57:16.000 But what you don't understand is the society that you think they don't fit into is falling apart and dying. 0.57

00:57:24.000 And you are the cancer that is killing it. 0.99

00:57:29.000 Our politics failed to integrate teenage migrants into our society. 1.00

00:57:35.000 Also, didn't give them the help to function by our rules and our laws.

00:57:39.000 The gang rape was, in a way, a cry for help and structure.

00:57:45.000 Not only the young girl is the victim, they are also victims.

00:57:51.000 Because in the realm, not only the victim, also the perpetrators are getting traumatized.

00:57:56.000 It doesn't help the young girl if they're getting locked up now and getting their normal life for a long time denied.

00:58:05.000 That's all, gentlemen.

00:58:09.000 That was you after letting a gang of rapists free. 0.84

00:58:17.000 It is crazy.

00:58:18.000 You know, Sarah Rogers has a bunch of these like crazy stories.

00:58:21.000 Like, she has them all memorized of all just the insane, like actual true stories.

00:58:26.000 If you think that's like not actually happening in Europe, it's actually happening.

00:58:30.000 I mean, there's she, these are all based on true.

00:58:33.000 Our friend, she lives in New York City, and they'll have cases where a mugging has happened.

00:58:37.000 And mugging someone sees a mugging and they just think, do I want to intrude on this where I would have to basically, like, if it's, for example, if it's a black person mugging a white person, do I want to come in and like be the person who is fighting this person?

00:58:49.000 We know how they can, if there's a video of it, it spirals out of control.

00:58:53.000 And yeah, Daniel Penny, perfect example.

00:58:56.000 I mean, he was vindicated, and yet he had to go through the heroin experience of you've got to count on 12 people.

00:59:02.000 You had the state of New York try to destroy your life because you, the person that you were choking, was the wrong color.

00:59:09.000 I hate to say it.

00:59:11.000 So this is a European story, citizen vigilante, but we should throw this graph up.

00:59:17.000 This is the foreign born number and share of people living in the United States.

00:59:24.000 And what's really troubling about this is the number got really high as a percentage of the total population, like 1910, 1920, and then it dropped down between 1940 and 1970 down to 4.7% of the population.

00:59:37.000 Slammed the door. 0.89

00:59:38.000 But when we hit our bicentennial, that was about as low as foreign America had ever been. 0.98

00:59:43.000 And then, if you see the graph, we are at our highest percentage than at any time since 1850 to 2025.

00:59:54.000 We are at almost 16% foreign born. 1.00

00:59:56.000 And I bet that number is actually high. 1.00

00:59:57.000 No one ever voted for.

00:59:59.000 Never voted for it.

01:00:00.000 Nope.

01:00:01.000 Just no, and they say that in the film actually that you know, nobody, these people didn't vote for this.

01:00:05.000 And uh, we should mention, by the way, um, you know, speaking about authors, the director's intent here that he does say at the end, and the very first thing he said to me, he said, I made this film for the victims, I made this film, and it says at the end, this film is dedicated to the victims of rape and murder that have been let down by the legal system.

01:00:25.000 And he specifically said that uh, this is about them, this is about their experiences.

01:00:32.000 This is about because he pointed out in that case in Hamburg, which you know, similar to the movie, as it shows, that that girl still lived in the same neighborhood as her rapists, and then when they were let out of jail, that they were basically just sent back to the same neighborhood, so she still has to live with them right around the corner every single day.

01:00:52.000 And you know, I again, I still don't think it reads as advocacy, I think it's more just like an exploration of like a what if scenario, kind of like Joker was a what if scenario.

01:01:03.000 Well, it's not really a what if scenario, it's literally happening.

01:01:06.000 Well, actually, I think the what if scenario.

01:01:08.000 What about the what if scenario?

01:01:09.000 In terms of the vigilantism.

01:01:10.000 That's a worthwhile question.

01:01:11.000 Let's suppose one of these grooming gangs got, like, a vigilante went and they actually, like, killed three members of a confirmed grooming gang who we thought were underpunished.

01:01:22.000 How do we think people would respond to it?

01:01:23.000 What do we think would happen?

01:01:26.000 In America?

01:01:27.000 Well, it hasn't happened in America.

01:01:29.000 Well, let's say in Britain, there were. 0.99

01:01:30.000 You mean, like, a migrant gang? 1.00

01:01:32.000 Yeah, like. 1.00

01:01:33.000 I am genuinely surprised that some.

01:01:37.000 Parent hasn't, maybe they have.

01:01:39.000 I don't know, but I don't know of a story off the top of my head of some dad that took matters into his own hands.

01:01:44.000 I mean, there is a famous story in the US.

01:01:47.000 I think Jack might remember the name, but a guy whose son was like abducted, kind of abducted by a man.

01:01:51.000 He shot him in the airport.

01:01:52.000 Yeah, he shot him in the airport.

01:01:53.000 He was convicted, but he got a very late sentence.

01:01:53.000 I just saw that.

01:01:55.000 Gary Pache.

01:01:57.000 Gary Pache.

01:01:59.000 Yeah, so he, his son was abducted by a karate instructor who was like, oh, you know, he had like wormed his way into the family, and it was a family that I believe was.

01:02:10.000 I'm not going to say that.

01:02:11.000 I'm not going to get into all the details, but he was a trusted member of their circle, he was taking the son to a karate tournament in California.

01:02:21.000 They had lived in Louisiana and basically just abducted him, absconded with the son.

01:02:26.000 By the time they found him, he had dyed the boy's hair.

01:02:29.000 It spent like, I want to say, a week.

01:02:33.000 And they did find him, they brought his son back.

01:02:35.000 But when they were bringing the perpetrator back, the karate instructor, which is a young guy, I think he was in his 30s.

01:02:43.000 That the father went around all throughout town and kind of like was able to find out just like going to bars and talking to local cops what the specific logistics would be, like what flight he was on, like when it was going to land and all of this. 0.96

01:02:58.000 And he wore like a stupid like costume, like his, his, uh, his, uh, actually, actually, uh, that was not a costume. 0.96

01:03:06.000 I, I've, I found out because I followed the son on Twitter, um, that he actually said, like, no, my dad just dresses like that. 0.99

01:03:13.000 Like my dad just always dressed like that.

01:03:14.000 Wow.

01:03:15.000 It looked like he was trying to, you know, get a little bit of a headache.

01:03:19.000 Yeah, no, it looks like he was trying to, like, with glasses and, like, a trucker hat.

01:03:22.000 Yeah, but it goes in there.

01:03:23.000 It's like, that's just how he got dressed.

01:03:25.000 And they're like, why?

01:03:26.000 Why?

01:03:27.000 And he just waits for him to walk by and he just walks up with a snub nosed revolver and just gives him one of the head, runs right to the temple.

01:03:36.000 And it's on film, and that's it.

01:03:40.000 That's it.

01:03:40.000 My thought is, by the way, this dress was great.

01:03:42.000 He got that off pretty quickly.

01:03:44.000 Yeah, so the reaction to it was they got him, they gave it like temporary insanity.

01:03:51.000 And basically, I think one of the prosecutors later went on to say that we don't think there's a jury anywhere in Louisiana that would convict him.

01:04:03.000 He was sentenced to, he was originally charged with second degree murder, took a plea deal of no contest to manslaughter, was given a seven year suspended sentence, five years probation, 300 hours of community service.

01:04:16.000 That's pretty light.

01:04:18.000 And I think of other things.

01:04:19.000 Have you ever heard of the in broad daylight killing?

01:04:22.000 This was in rural Missouri, like northwest Missouri.

01:04:25.000 Father of the century, by the way.

01:04:27.000 Father of the century.

01:04:28.000 And this was a guy who was like a local menace.

01:04:31.000 Like he kind of would do a lot of petty crime in the area. 0.99

01:04:34.000 He was a bit of a sex predator. 0.85

01:04:35.000 He kind of, I guess we would call it grooming today. 0.97

01:04:37.000 Like he had a wife who he basically started a relationship with when she was 14 or something, terrorized her family.

01:04:42.000 When they tried to get her back, he would mess up their house and he like assaulted people, but could never get put away long term.

01:04:47.000 This was a soft on crime era.

01:04:49.000 And finally, locals in the community, in broad daylight, this was a small town in Missouri.

01:04:54.000 So people went up to his car and.

01:04:56.000 They just shot him to death.

01:04:58.000 Dozens of likely eyewitnesses, and no one ever talked.

01:05:02.000 So they've never caught anyone.

01:05:05.000 Good conversation is about respect.

01:05:08.000 It's how we create a space where people are able to share their ideas and be heard.

01:05:12.000 Charlie knew that.

01:05:13.000 Turning Point still knows that.

01:05:14.000 And TikTok has always strived to build the kind of place that thrives on respectful connection, where curiosity fuels connection and we can share what's on our minds and learn from each other.

01:05:24.000 When ideas meet respect, good things happen.

01:05:26.000 On TikTok, you can find a mechanic.

01:05:28.000 Explaining the why behind a problem most of us wouldn't even know how to name, or a father sharing a lifetime of knowledge with his viewers, viewers who listen, discuss, and then they respond.

01:05:38.000 TikTok turns connection into community through small acts of understanding.

01:05:42.000 You can feel it in the comments, in the thank you from a stranger halfway across the world.

01:05:46.000 TikTok is a place where respect opens the door for discussion, and discussion helps us build something real.

01:05:55.000 There was a German woman who shot somebody in court, I believe.

01:06:00.000 Yeah, she shot her rapist, I believe. 1.00

01:06:02.000 She's a child rapist. 1.00

01:06:02.000 Maybe French? 1.00

01:06:04.000 Oh, yes. 0.99

01:06:05.000 I think he killed her child.

01:06:06.000 And the video of it's like haunting.

01:06:06.000 Yes.

01:06:08.000 She just like goes up there and just, you can tell she's like probably never even shot a weapon before she'd like tried.

01:06:14.000 She probably practiced just for this moment, but she's, you know, the hands like all over the place.

01:06:18.000 It just shoots him like five times.

01:06:19.000 Yeah.

01:06:19.000 Marion, I think it's Marion Bachmeyer is, yes.

01:06:23.000 So she killed Claus Gabrowski, who was on trial for the rape and murder of her daughter, Anna.

01:06:28.000 Yeah.

01:06:29.000 And she was convicted of manslaughter and unlawful possession of a firearm.

01:06:29.000 Oh, murder.

01:06:33.000 And she was sentenced to six years, released on probation after serving three.

01:06:39.000 Worse.

01:06:39.000 She was giving her a medal.

01:06:41.000 She was giving her a medal.

01:06:43.000 Yeah.

01:06:43.000 In that instance, it wasn't like a migrant, but there's that crazy video that goes viral every so often on X or whatever where it's like this migrant dude who comes in with, I think it looked like a French scene where the mom is trying to protect the daughter.

01:06:58.000 Have you seen that video?

01:06:59.000 The mom's trying to protect the daughter, and the guy's trying to grab them out of the house, but then he gets scared off by some noise.

01:07:05.000 Down the street, and it's caught on a ring camera.

01:07:07.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

01:07:08.000 No, I know what you're talking about.

01:07:09.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:07:09.000 In France, yeah, yeah.

01:07:11.000 That video is like exactly what he just grabs.

01:07:16.000 He just walks up and grabs her.

01:07:17.000 It's from like a doorstep, yes.

01:07:20.000 Yeah, he just walks up and grabs her and tries to like those videos.

01:07:23.000 In fact, do you guys remember?

01:07:25.000 Yeah, this is the story.

01:07:26.000 This is the story kind of peak woke Biden era.

01:07:28.000 I want to say early 21 in South Carolina.

01:07:31.000 The army guy who was caught on video and he's kind of confronting the black guy in the neighborhood, he like slaps the phone out of his hand.

01:07:37.000 I remember that, yeah.

01:07:38.000 He got prosecuted for this.

01:07:39.000 He got like a minor assault charge.

01:07:41.000 And the full background of that was that this guy was like, he seemed mentally unwell and he was basically a local menace.

01:07:47.000 And he had, among other things, he'd been caught picking up a baby and trying to walk away with it and got caught in this case.

01:07:53.000 And he was just constantly causing problems.

01:07:56.000 Nobody would arrest him, nobody would get him out of the neighborhood.

01:07:58.000 People had complained to this army guy.

01:08:00.000 He confronts this guy, becomes a national villain, gets denounced by the Biden administration.

01:08:06.000 They let a mob gather outside his home.

01:08:08.000 He has to flee his home because there's a local mob there.

01:08:11.000 He actually got convicted of assault.

01:08:12.000 And I'll never forget that he said, I regret absolutely nothing about what I did.

01:08:16.000 Hmm.

01:08:16.000 Base.

01:08:18.000 Based.

01:08:18.000 And so I do wonder if this were to happen.

01:08:21.000 I feel like they would, I feel like if it happened in America today, if we had an equivalent version of Marianne Bachmeyer or Gary Plasche, and maybe it was a migrant who injured or killed or raped their kid or whatever, I think they would crack down on it harder.

01:08:36.000 I think that the government would, certainly a European government, would say, we need to send a message for this.

01:08:42.000 And it would be very, I don't want to bring this about, but it would be interesting to see how that would unfold.

01:08:47.000 Yeah, I think it would depend on the state.

01:08:49.000 Like if we do it in, like, California, New York versus like Louisiana, Utah.

01:08:59.000 But, you know, Russ, to your point about Mangione, like in that case where he takes like left wing vigilantism, which is just literally assassination, that if you look at what they're doing on the state level and the federal level with those judges, they've been like, they already took the death penalty off the table.

01:09:17.000 They've been like dropping charges left and right in the Mangione case.

01:09:21.000 I mean, it's like this blue jurisdiction, it's exactly what This movie is all about that.

01:09:27.000 You can see it happening right now where a guy who clearly committed a political assassination.

01:09:33.000 He just walks up and shoots a guy in the back on the street, right?

01:09:35.000 This is obvious murder.

01:09:37.000 It's obvious done for political purposes.

01:09:39.000 And yet the judges in both of the trials, the federal level and the state level, are like jumping through hoops to try to get Mangione off.

01:09:49.000 I have that video from Bordeaux, 22 B roll.

01:09:54.000 This just like freaks me out watching it.

01:09:59.000 Good. 1.00

01:10:00.000 So just some migrant tries to grab. 0.98

01:10:02.000 Oh, look at it.

01:10:03.000 Mother and daughter.

01:10:04.000 What in the flipping world?

01:10:06.000 Yep, look at this.

01:10:08.000 Second Amendment, man.

01:10:11.000 Yeah, this is.

01:10:12.000 And I think that bus scared him off.

01:10:13.000 Look at that.

01:10:14.000 He tries to just break down the door and grabs them both, pulls them out.

01:10:19.000 Ladies and gentlemen, situational awareness.

01:10:21.000 It's why.

01:10:22.000 We need it.

01:10:22.000 Everybody needs it.

01:10:23.000 You need robust law enforcement because.

01:10:26.000 You're either going to have the tyranny of criminals, you're going to have.

01:10:30.000 And like overall, we don't like.

01:10:31.000 The reason vigilantism is bad is you get, overall, is you get.

01:10:36.000 Sometimes innocent people are killed.

01:10:38.000 Sometimes the punishment would vastly exceed the crime.

01:10:42.000 But by the way, then you get the rise of left wing vigilantism.

01:10:44.000 Yeah, and you get left wing vigilantism.

01:10:47.000 You get blood feuds.

01:10:48.000 Those are bad.

01:10:48.000 I mean, there's a lot of vigilantism in, for example, in Chicago, where one gang is in a war with another gang.

01:10:54.000 Those are all effectively, if you kill someone over a beef and they kill one of your friends over the same beef.

01:11:00.000 Goes back and forth forever.

01:11:01.000 That is why you need law enforcement.

01:11:04.000 That's why you need firm law enforcement.

01:11:06.000 By the way, you know what it says?

01:11:07.000 You do a crime, you will go to jail for life. 0.95

01:11:09.000 You will be executed for this.

01:11:11.000 By the way, you know what it says here? 0.96

01:11:12.000 The African migrant who attempted child kidnapping was released on bail after two years. 0.96

01:11:20.000 Probably right back into France. 0.73

01:11:21.000 Well, and this is also why not only do you need robust policing and police sentencing, but you also need.

01:11:31.000 You know, to be able to carry a firearm, you need to be able to protect yourself.

01:11:38.000 Like, don't worry.

01:11:39.000 Like, yes, absolutely hope that the cops and police and all of that is going to be there, but situational awareness and protect yourself.

01:11:50.000 Like, everybody, everybody needs it.

01:11:52.000 That's why it's in the Bill of Rights.

01:11:54.000 Well, and yeah, and I want to be super clear that none of us are advocating.

01:11:59.000 We don't want to live in a world where things like this happen.

01:12:02.000 We don't want to get to this point.

01:12:04.000 We don't want to have people saying, Oh, I want to take up arms to defend my family and my neighborhood, right?

01:12:10.000 That's why we have always called for.

01:12:14.000 One tier of justice, not the two tier.

01:12:16.000 Kirstarmer, of course, by the way, just thrown out of office.

01:12:19.000 You know, he would have been thrust out by his party if he hadn't resigned over a number of things, but a lot of which included migrant violence and migrant sexual assault that he was directly involved with looking the other way on.

01:12:31.000 There's no question that played a huge role in his ouster as the government of England just fell over this, and yet the movie is banned in Germany.

01:12:39.000 So, no, we don't want this two tier policing.

01:12:42.000 We want serious policing.

01:12:43.000 We want people to go away.

01:12:45.000 And by the way, you know, it's like the whole, you know, people were talking about prison abolition too recently.

01:12:52.000 They're saying, like, oh, what the right wing case for prison abolition.

01:12:54.000 I'm like, I can make a right wing case for prison abolition, but you're not going to like it.

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01:14:01.000 Well, check this out.

01:14:01.000 So, this was Elon Musk retweeting or quote tweeting Naib Bukele.

01:14:07.000 And you see, we're talking about policing.

01:14:09.000 I thought of this recently.

01:14:11.000 It's a very simple concept, really.

01:14:13.000 And it's basically a graph that shows the murder rate in El Salvador, right?

01:14:17.000 It hits a peak in about 2015, and then it just drops like a rock.

01:14:21.000 And you see the incarceration rate, which is the blue line.

01:14:24.000 Shoot through the roof.

01:14:25.000 And that's really the truth. 0.83

01:14:26.000 I mean, the truth is, it's like, yeah, it's good to be armed.

01:14:29.000 It's good to be vigilant.

01:14:31.000 It's good to be, you know, head on a swivel.

01:14:33.000 But if you would just lock up the bad guys, for sure, there's like a very small percentage of the population that causes most of the damage.

01:14:40.000 Especially for random mayhem violence on innocent people.

01:14:45.000 Like, you know, most murders, it's often pointed out, it's a criminal kills another criminal, and that's bad, and we don't like it.

01:14:51.000 But it's not as likely to make someone feel terror when they go outside.

01:14:55.000 Right.

01:14:55.000 But They really don't like it.

01:14:57.000 They don't love the disorder of they see shoplifters, they see vandalism.

01:15:01.000 Like Aruniz Arutska.

01:15:02.000 Yes, so random assassins.

01:15:04.000 It was so horrific because of how random it was.

01:15:06.000 Anyone who's like stabbing a random person.

01:15:08.000 This is why the UK, though, is such a terrible case because you mentioned Keir Starmer, Jack.

01:15:14.000 Keir Starmer apparently, in his previous role before he was prime minister, I forget what the name of the role was, he sent 13,000 letters, you know, strongly worded letters instead of prosecutions for these Pakistani rape gangs. 0.79

01:15:29.000 So this is.

01:15:30.000 Yeah, it's really offensive when random criminals, you know, commit random acts of violence. 1.00

01:15:36.000 It's really offensive when you refuse to prosecute them because they're migrants. 1.00

01:15:41.000 That's what's absolutely infuriating about that case. 0.97

01:15:43.000 And yeah, we get it here in the States too, but less under Trump, thankfully.

01:15:47.000 But it's just, yeah, we make our point from consequences.

01:15:52.000 But Blake, not that I want to go much longer, but there is a really cool scene that we should mention as well where it's definitely the director speaking through the character, as most of the scenes are, where he's monologuing. 0.76

01:16:05.000 But there's a scene where he also confronts a couple of fair jumpers on the bus too, which I really like.

01:16:09.000 And he's like explaining to them the concept that if you don't pay for your bus ticket, if you're running around stealing, then that's going to make the cost of everything go up. 0.99

01:16:20.000 And then eventually, maybe we won't have those things anymore.

01:16:24.000 And he's like, all of society will fall apart if we don't abide by these basic rules.

01:16:31.000 I feel like that's way too much abstract thinking for the typical fare jumper. 0.77

01:16:36.000 I thought you were going to say the weird scene, as I call it, the autistic landlord scene.

01:16:40.000 I really don't want to say more.

01:16:42.000 If you guys watch the movie, you'll know exactly what it is.

01:16:45.000 I thought it was great that he was a landlord. 0.97

01:16:47.000 There's a whole subplot kind of thing there where, like, and yes, some of his tenants are prostitutes. 0.93

01:16:54.000 So, again, they don't portray this guy as some white knight. 0.93

01:16:59.000 He's very much not.

01:17:00.000 Wasn't the original title Dark Knight, but then they made him take it off because they didn't want to get sued by Warner Brothers?

01:17:06.000 Yeah, I think so.

01:17:07.000 It's a little bit too close to Batman.

01:17:08.000 And there's a lot of Batman elements here.

01:17:11.000 Because he like inherited a lot of wealth from his father as well.

01:17:15.000 And that he, you know, he's the building owner. 0.87

01:17:20.000 And at one point, he's, you know, he's in one of the rooms with a prostitute and is utilizing her services. 0.91

01:17:26.000 And then immediately afterwards, he's like, Is that mold?

01:17:29.000 Is that mold on the wall?

01:17:31.000 And it's just like, Jack, how would you know you wanted to get a 3X?

01:17:36.000 Yeah.

01:17:37.000 Yeah.

01:17:37.000 Hold up, Jack.

01:17:38.000 I saw the movie.

01:17:40.000 Jack, you got to watch.

01:17:42.000 Look, I can understand a little bit of like, you know, got to book it.

01:17:45.000 If you got to go at 1.25 speed or something, 1.5, but three times speed, I might as well just read the screenplay.

01:17:52.000 Because I think, to be fair, my mind is so powerful, it's three times faster than the average normie out there.

01:17:58.000 So me watching something at 3X is like you guys watching something at 1X.

01:18:02.000 I will say, for this movie specifically, I'll give it to a 3X.

01:18:09.000 Because it was.

01:18:10.000 Fair enough.

01:18:11.000 I literally went and cut a 30.

01:18:13.000 Eight minute version of this film that cuts out like a lot of the middle, and it's much better.

01:18:19.000 There's a lot of slow monologuing, there's a lot of like extended sequence of just people walking, or like for example, when the SWAT team is coming, they're just like, let's have 45 seconds of them running around.

01:18:32.000 I think I actually think people should support the film, actually buy it, and if you whatever speed you want to watch it, I would say that as well.

01:18:38.000 Yeah, yeah, so you can get it on Amazon, right, and get like pay for it, and you know, we should re emphasize to everyone, it is a very popular movie that you can get.

01:18:48.000 I went and I bought five of the special packages or whatever.

01:18:54.000 So you get Blu ray, signed lobby cards, and a couple of other things.

01:18:59.000 Not sure exactly what you get in the package.

01:19:01.000 And I was thinking about maybe doing a giveaway.

01:19:04.000 You show me that you paid for it, and I'll send listeners the set or something like that, just to do what I could to support the cause.

01:19:16.000 You see something like that?

01:19:17.000 We talk about economic warfare all the time.

01:19:19.000 Something like this comes out.

01:19:20.000 And, you know, we had Sound of Freedom a couple years ago.

01:19:22.000 That did really, really well in the U.S.

01:19:25.000 And I think this would do well as well.

01:19:27.000 Good.

01:19:28.000 Sound of Freedom was a better movie.

01:19:29.000 Jack, you want to take us home?

01:19:32.000 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, go out there and commit more. 1.00

01:19:36.000 Fuck crime. 1.00

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THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 133 — The Male Ick? Naming 100 Women?

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