The Charlie Kirk Show - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 134 — Batman Goes Shopping? He-Man and the Masters of the Culture War?

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00:01:19.000 Another Thought Crime Thursday is upon us.

00:01:23.000 What's up, gang?

00:01:24.000 What's up?

00:01:24.000 What's up, Jack?

00:01:26.000 Crimes are flitting through my mind all the time.

00:01:29.000 All right, we got Russ, we got Andrew, we got Blake, we got Poso here.

00:01:34.000 I've got my Philadelphia background, also with my Wawa 250.

00:01:39.000 Shirt.

00:01:40.000 Look at this.

00:01:40.000 We got Philly Skyline.

00:01:41.000 We got Wawa 250.

00:01:43.000 Just pick this up.

00:01:45.000 It's going to be a hot commodity.

00:01:46.000 I'm going to pass this on to my children at one point.

00:01:50.000 You know what's interesting?

00:01:50.000 They steal it from me probably a week from now.

00:01:54.000 You know what's interesting, Jack, is that we've got the Buckies fan, you know, all these Europeans coming over discovering Buckies. 0.91

00:02:02.000 We've got Bass Pro Shops.

00:02:03.000 I have seen zero foreign love for Wawa.

00:02:07.000 What's that about?

00:02:08.000 Are they playing any games in Philadelphia?

00:02:10.000 They did actually they they just had a game in Philadelphia last week Shoot what was it?

00:02:15.000 I think it was like Brazil or something and I think it's because there weren't any European Teams that were playing in Philadelphia though, so Freddie came across Pennsylvania, but he was like going across the northern tier to get to New York So he wasn't anywhere in like what I refer to as the Wawa Republic if you will Which begins in actually in North Jersey and then goes all the way down to about Richmond although Philadelphia is of course the capital Yeah,

00:02:44.000 I think in general, even if the Europeans haven't discovered Wawa, the fact that you've got your 250 Wawa shirt, it does get me thinking about the share of American patriotic pride that is being generated by high quality gas stations at this point because Bucky's is a thing that we're genuinely celebrating and bragging about as Europeans encounter it.

00:03:06.000 And I know a lot of people were getting a kick.

00:03:08.000 The Japanese got here and they went to 7 Eleven in America and they were thinking, oh, it's so amazing to have.

00:03:15.000 This authentic product of Japan here in America, the 7 Eleven.

00:03:21.000 And then we've got the cult following of Kirkland, the Costco brand.

00:03:25.000 Oh, is that?

00:03:25.000 Are they discovering Kirkland now?

00:03:27.000 Yeah, Kirkland is a whole thing now.

00:03:29.000 Yeah, which is also really funny.

00:03:31.000 Is that one of those things where we just think of Costco as normal, decent products, and then there's probably Europeans or Chinese people who get Kirkland exported to their country and they charge it at a three times markup?

00:03:42.000 They used to do that with Pabst Blue Ribbon.

00:03:45.000 I literally just pulled this up to fact check and I did find a TikTok.

00:03:52.000 That loves the Wawa.

00:03:54.000 I just found it.

00:03:56.000 Oh, there you go.

00:03:57.000 You got one, Jack.

00:03:59.000 You got one.

00:03:59.000 Although that's got decent engagement, admittedly.

00:04:02.000 No, it does.

00:04:04.000 It does.

00:04:04.000 And this, of course, because we're not really big on.

00:04:07.000 Dude, this one on TikTok, it's 500,000 views.

00:04:11.000 Yeah, no, it's not bad.

00:04:12.000 They love the TikTok.

00:04:15.000 Wait, hold on.

00:04:16.000 The whole point of this is that you get Philly cheesesteak at a Wawa.

00:04:19.000 Do you agree?

00:04:20.000 I mean, I don't know.

00:04:21.000 Do you agree with that, Jake?

00:04:22.000 Yeah, so that's kind of like, look, I appreciate it.

00:04:26.000 So this is a French guy who went, I guess, to.

00:04:30.000 To Philadelphia, who said they were recommended.

00:04:35.000 He got a little mixed up.

00:04:36.000 He got a little mixed up, right? 1.00

00:04:38.000 He's French, you know, we're not going to hold to him.

00:04:40.000 But he said that he wanted the cheesesteak, and then someone had mentioned Wawa.

00:04:45.000 So he got mixed up and thought that he meant that he should get a cheesesteak at Wawa, which, I mean, guys, like, let's be serious.

00:04:53.000 You could do a whole lot better.

00:04:55.000 That's like, no one, I mean, at that point, don't even enjoy it.

00:04:59.000 Yeah, it kind of is.

00:05:00.000 Let him go and believe he got the famous sandwich.

00:05:03.000 He can tell us.

00:05:03.000 He seemed happy.

00:05:04.000 He seemed very happy.

00:05:06.000 I got the Wawa cheesesteak.

00:05:08.000 And also, he seemed quite happy about that.

00:05:13.000 Cheesesteaks are a basic enough sandwich.

00:05:15.000 I don't think it matters too much where you get one.

00:05:18.000 Dude, I actually agree that I think for a lot of the overweight foodies out there, they do this whole thing oh, well, you've got to go to one in North Philly that's in a hole in the wall that's served out of a bucket.

00:05:33.000 But that's the perfect one.

00:05:35.000 And they're like, no, no, that's the red bucket.

00:05:37.000 You have to go to South Philly for the one out of the blue bucket.

00:05:40.000 And you're like, if you're getting an authentic Philly cheesesteak anywhere in the city or like South Jersey where there's a lot of Philly crossover, you're going to be fine.

00:05:51.000 You're going to be absolutely fine.

00:05:52.000 They're all good.

00:05:54.000 What you don't want to get is something where people call it a Philly cheesesteak and it's not, it's just very obviously not a Philly cheesesteak where they like layer like roast.

00:06:05.000 I've seen people come, you know, say that they're going to give me.

00:06:08.000 A filthy cheesesteak, and I get something that has like roast beef on it.

00:06:11.000 And I'm like, what is this?

00:06:12.000 Like, this is not a cheesesteak in any way, shape, or form.

00:06:15.000 So it's like, as long as you actually understand what you're supposed to be making, you're fine.

00:06:19.000 You know, speaking, I think this is a total out of left field, but it's a thought crime that just came to me because you said that.

00:06:25.000 I have a real thought crime for you that is very culinary.

00:06:28.000 When it comes to roast beef, I prefer fast food roast beef, like Arby's style roast beef, over what you'd likely get at a nice restaurant with like the thicker, Pieces of beef.

00:06:41.000 Like, I actually really like the weird thin slices of beef that are standard in fast food sandwiches.

00:06:47.000 So much so that when I was most recently in South Dakota for a blast from the past, I went to the Hardee's that I went to as a kid and I got one of them.

00:06:57.000 And it was delicious.

00:06:57.000 You know what?

00:06:58.000 There you go.

00:07:00.000 It's way better than restaurant roast beef.

00:07:02.000 Jack, I have a bigger question for the group here.

00:07:05.000 It's off the topic list, but say Mexico won the World Cup.

00:07:10.000 Do you think that they would riot and burn down our cities in celebration? 1.00

00:07:16.000 You mean the Mexicans that live here illegally? 1.00

00:07:20.000 And legally. 1.00

00:07:22.000 The Moroccans in the Netherlands, I think some of them are like third generation. 1.00

00:07:26.000 And they're still rioting. 1.00

00:07:27.000 They're still burning down that country.

00:07:30.000 All of California would be engulfed. 0.99

00:07:33.000 Mexico shall not win the World Cup.

00:07:36.000 I don't think.

00:07:37.000 Have they done that?

00:07:38.000 Do Mexicans really like riot or Hispanic areas riot over sports stuff? 0.97

00:07:43.000 No, they're not animals. 0.96

00:07:44.000 I mean, well, I don't know.

00:07:48.000 I think they'll be fine.

00:07:50.000 I don't, it will be interesting.

00:07:52.000 I think Mexico is underrated here because this game that they're playing today, and if they win it, their next one, they're both played in Mexico City, and Mexico City is higher up than Denver.

00:08:02.000 It's like 7,500 feet in the air.

00:08:05.000 That is, you have like one third less oxygen in every breath than you would normally.

00:08:10.000 I just think a lot of these players, they're going to go to Mexico City and they're going to be super tired, and then Mexico will slip one goal past them and get the win.

00:08:18.000 It's Ecuador that's playing against Mexico.

00:08:21.000 True.

00:08:21.000 So it's.

00:08:23.000 Ecuador's pretty high now.

00:08:24.000 Ecuador's also high.

00:08:25.000 But their players are not from the high part of Ecuador.

00:08:28.000 All the players for Ecuador are from.

00:08:29.000 This is crazy. 1.00

00:08:30.000 I've been reading Steve Saylor posts about this.

00:08:33.000 Almost all or a lot of the Ecuador players, over half of them, are from one small part of Ecuador that only has 3% of the people.

00:08:41.000 So it'd be like if all of America's players came from like Alabama or something.

00:08:46.000 And because it's the only part of Ecuador that has like a high black population.

00:08:49.000 So they're all really athletic there.

00:08:51.000 But they're not from the highlands.

00:08:53.000 And they play in Europe.

00:08:54.000 So.

00:08:55.000 Other than when they play national team games in keto, they're not actually playing at a high altitude the way Mexico is. 0.52

00:09:02.000 Keto. 0.58

00:09:03.000 I'm trying to think of something.

00:09:04.000 Wasn't there another, like, some kind of sport where it's like all the Olympians that have won are from, like, a certain one square of Europe or something like that?

00:09:16.000 Do you know what I'm talking about at all?

00:09:17.000 I'm not sure about that.

00:09:18.000 I do know that.

00:09:19.000 I want to say it's like ice skating.

00:09:20.000 I want to say it's like ice skating.

00:09:21.000 Kenya has great long distance runners, but it's even more specific than that.

00:09:24.000 It's from.

00:09:25.000 Like one tribe in one small part of Kenya. 0.99

00:09:29.000 Oh, gosh. 0.99

00:09:31.000 I'm being assaulted.

00:09:32.000 I'm being assaulted by a Phillies fan here.

00:09:37.000 Hey, Jack Jack.

00:09:38.000 I know there's Raya going on.

00:09:40.000 There's Jordan Sweeney.

00:09:41.000 We got an Eagles fan over here, too.

00:09:44.000 We got an Eagles fan over here, too.

00:09:45.000 All right.

00:09:46.000 Well, guys, guys, if I can, if I can, you know, I know this is on our subject list, and these guys were not planning to be here today, but they got in.

00:09:56.000 I have a question.

00:09:57.000 What did you guys.

00:09:59.000 We guys, we watched the Toy Story and He Man this weekend, right?

00:10:05.000 Right.

00:10:06.000 Right.

00:10:07.000 And which movie did you guys like better?

00:10:09.000 He Man.

00:10:10.000 He Man.

00:10:11.000 Why? 1.00

00:10:12.000 Because it's better.

00:10:14.000 Because it's man style.

00:10:16.000 Because it's man style?

00:10:17.000 Yes.

00:10:18.000 And what does He Man say?

00:10:21.000 I have the power.

00:10:24.000 Oh, I have the power.

00:10:27.000 And AJ, are you grabbing stuff that's like swords and saying, I have the power?

00:10:30.000 Yes.

00:10:31.000 Yes, you like that?

00:10:32.000 Yes.

00:10:33.000 Like sticks or anything?

00:10:35.000 Yes. 0.91

00:10:35.000 All right, get out of here. 0.91

00:10:37.000 Okay.

00:10:37.000 Thank you.

00:10:38.000 Good work, guys.

00:10:38.000 He's got the power.

00:10:40.000 Oh, I get out too?

00:10:41.000 Oh, all right.

00:10:42.000 I will soon.

00:10:42.000 Wait.

00:10:43.000 The question, though, is, Jack, does Europe have enough power to run its AC?

00:10:50.000 Oh.

00:10:51.000 Oh.

00:10:52.000 All right.

00:10:52.000 I don't know if you wanted to switch to this.

00:10:55.000 That was the most aggressive pivot I've ever heard Andrew pull off.

00:10:58.000 You see, I always go into just the head of the AC.

00:11:00.000 I'm not even mad at my skills.

00:11:01.000 I'm just impressed.

00:11:03.000 But if you want to do it back to the AC thing, we can do that as well.

00:11:07.000 Because I want to know, guys.

00:11:08.000 I mean, we know we're getting hit with a heat wave.

00:11:12.000 I don't know.

00:11:14.000 Russ, I feel like we should hit the He Man thing because they just said it.

00:11:17.000 Yeah, let's hit the He Man thing.

00:11:18.000 Yeah, all right.

00:11:19.000 Yeah, we'll have to do He Man first.

00:11:20.000 Let's get back to the AC question.

00:11:22.000 He just said it.

00:11:23.000 He just said it.

00:11:23.000 So the kids.

00:11:24.000 That was the pivot.

00:11:25.000 That was an all-timer pivot.

00:11:26.000 It was a good try.

00:11:28.000 That was worthy of the power of grace.

00:11:30.000 But we'll get there.

00:11:31.000 We will get there.

00:11:32.000 Did I say that right?

00:11:33.000 I never watched He Man as a kid.

00:11:34.000 Full confession.

00:11:35.000 I think this is one of those things where.

00:11:38.000 Tiny differences in age make a huge difference.

00:11:42.000 So, Jack, I know that you're, what, a couple years older than me, and I guess this must mean you're a vastly bigger He Man fan than I am.

00:11:49.000 I had never seen He Man on my own.

00:11:51.000 I would honestly say, I would honestly say, like, you're right on the age question.

00:11:55.000 That being said, though, I was, you know, I was familiar with the He Man toys as a kid.

00:12:01.000 I did not really watch the He Man show as a kid.

00:12:05.000 I was quite familiar with the tools.

00:12:06.000 I actually think you have to be older than Jack and I to have appreciated He Man.

00:12:10.000 It's like, it's Gen X was the core.

00:12:12.000 My brother's He Man was Gen X, and I am not Gen X.

00:12:16.000 Yeah, my brother's like five years older than me, and he watched He Man.

00:12:20.000 So that's kind of like if you're replacing it.

00:12:22.000 I don't even think I saw the toys.

00:12:23.000 But I had the toys.

00:12:24.000 I had the toys.

00:12:25.000 I never saw the toys, but I think they were like leftover toys.

00:12:28.000 I think the only thing I heard of He Man was I would read, I went through that phase as a kid where I read Dave Berry books, like Dave Berry humor books.

00:12:37.000 And he has columns he wrote about his son playing with He Man toys and explaining this is He Man, this is Men at Arms, this is these other guys.

00:12:48.000 Funny enough.

00:12:48.000 And I remember reading that and not being sure if this was real or just something Dave Berry was making up.

00:12:54.000 Actually, funny enough, is Tom Wolf also brings up He Man a lot in Bonfire of the Vanities.

00:13:01.000 Like, because he's referring to himself as.

00:13:03.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:13:03.000 It's because, well, the phrase Master of the Universe, and it's like the main character, the guy who's like a bond trader.

00:13:10.000 He's like, I'm a Master of the Universe, like He Man, like my kids' toys.

00:13:13.000 I'm a Master of the Universe.

00:13:15.000 That's literally what it actually comes from.

00:13:16.000 That's funny.

00:13:18.000 That's what Masters of the Universe comes from.

00:13:20.000 Yes, it's a He Man reference.

00:13:21.000 And he says something about, like, kids.

00:13:23.000 We should play some of the clips because I feel like if you're going to explain what we're talking about, I'm not sure what He Man is.

00:13:28.000 Yeah, let's.

00:13:29.000 Yeah.

00:13:30.000 Clip six is probably a good place to start.

00:13:33.000 It's a new movie.

00:13:35.000 Oh, no, there's the old one.

00:13:36.000 Okay.

00:13:39.000 And the Masters of the Universe!

00:13:43.000 I am Adam, Prince of Eternia, and defender of the secrets of Castle Greyskull.

00:13:48.000 This is Cringer, my fearless friend.

00:13:53.000 Fabulous secret powers were revealed to me the day I held aloft my magic sword and said, By the power of Greyskull!

00:14:15.000 Grenger became the mighty Battle Cat, and I became He Man, the most powerful man in the universe.

00:14:26.000 Only three others share this secret our friends, the Sorceress, and Arco.

00:14:32.000 Together, we defend Castle Greyskull from the evil forces of Skeletor.

00:14:44.000 Yeah, I'm looking, I literally dug out.

00:14:47.000 The PDF of Bonfire of the Vanities while we watched that clip.

00:14:51.000 And it says The masters of the universe were a set of lurid, rapacious plastic dolls that Sherman McCoy's otherwise perfect daughter liked to play with.

00:15:01.000 They looked like Norse gods through lifted weights, and they had names such as Dreakon, Ahor, Manglered, and Blue Tong.

00:15:09.000 They were unusually vulgar, even for plastic toys.

00:15:12.000 And yet, one day, in a bit of euphoria, he had picked up the telephone and taken an order for zero coupon bonds that had brought him a $50,000 commission.

00:15:21.000 And just like that, the phrase bubbled into his head I am a master of the universe.

00:15:27.000 Yeah, and so, like, McCoy is saying that, like, throughout the novel.

00:15:31.000 Yeah, yeah, it does.

00:15:31.000 But I just love that description of the choice.

00:15:33.000 Are those actually even He Man characters?

00:15:35.000 Dracon, Blue Tongue?

00:15:36.000 Are those?

00:15:37.000 I think no.

00:15:38.000 I think that might be, like, you know, and then this is, like, classic Tom Wolf.

00:15:43.000 That might be, like, what McCoy's daughter called them, but that's not what they're actually called.

00:15:48.000 Apparently, Blue Tongue is a viral disease that ruminant species can get.

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00:16:34.000 All right.

00:16:35.000 Well, let's dig in.

00:16:36.000 Let's dig in.

00:16:36.000 So, that was the original He Man.

00:16:38.000 All right.

00:16:38.000 That was the original He Man.

00:16:39.000 Everybody, you know, you're probably more familiar with that.

00:16:42.000 And then there's the new movie, which just came out like a week or two ago.

00:16:47.000 I'm going to try to get this back on track here.

00:16:50.000 And do we want to play that trailer as well?

00:16:52.000 Yes.

00:16:53.000 All right.

00:16:54.000 Let's do it.

00:16:55.000 So, that was the 1980s show.

00:16:58.000 And this is the new film, which just dropped.

00:17:02.000 1903, it just dropped a month ago, give or take.

00:17:06.000 I know most of you don't remember me, but I know all of you.

00:17:26.000 Even though I was stuck light years away on Earth.

00:17:29.000 Notice Battlecat replaces the lions.

00:17:32.000 I never stopped trying to get back home.

00:17:37.000 Everything changed since you left.

00:17:40.000 It's all gone.

00:17:43.000 Skeletor took my family.

00:17:50.000 And he destroyed our world. 1.00

00:17:57.000 It's all my fault.

00:17:59.000 I know how to.

00:18:00.000 fails to fail.

00:18:03.000 Take the sword.

00:18:06.000 When you fall, that's your chance to stand tall.

00:18:12.000 This is

00:18:43.000 my home.

00:18:44.000 I'm gonna fight for it.

00:18:47.000 But I can't do it without you.

00:18:49.000 Somebody wants to brawl.

00:18:51.000 I need every man, woman, or whatever that is. 0.97

00:19:08.000 You may have the power, but you're too scared to use it.

00:19:14.000 Trust me, I know how to use it.

00:19:26.000 You tell everyone that you're from another planet. 0.93

00:19:33.000 It just makes you sound a little very crazy.

00:19:39.000 Okay, Jack, I'm gonna say a few things being brutally honest here.

00:19:43.000 First of all, I saw that trailer in theaters a few months ago, and it is the first time I ever saw a movie and immediately Googled on my phone.

00:19:50.000 Yes, I pulled up my phone and Googled during the previews.

00:19:53.000 Did they make this movie using AI?

00:19:55.000 Because it looks very AI y.

00:19:58.000 The trailers did not do this movie any help.

00:20:01.000 Also, it's a little weird to me because it seems like they're saying this is the rise of He Man, so it's his origin story, but it seems like.

00:20:08.000 Yeah, it's like a prequel.

00:20:10.000 It's an origin story, like a reboot of the movie. 0.82

00:20:11.000 But at the start, he's already ex He Man.

00:20:14.000 He has amnesia and he's working as an accountant in New York or something.

00:20:18.000 He gets teleported from a gray skull to Earth, and then he grows up on Earth.

00:20:25.000 What's the thought, Crunchy?

00:20:28.000 So here's the thought crime.

00:20:29.000 This is what I wanted to bring up the thought crime.

00:20:31.000 And I've written, and I'm not even going to get into reviewing whether it's a good movie.

00:20:38.000 The movie's got issues.

00:20:39.000 I'm not even going to say that it's the perfect movie or something.

00:20:43.000 Music is actually really cool.

00:20:44.000 If you hear that guitar, the reason that it actually sounds like Queen is because it's literally Brian May.

00:20:49.000 They got him back to do the soundtrack, and he has new original songs for the film.

00:20:54.000 But the thought crime here is that.

00:20:59.000 My kids loved this thing.

00:21:02.000 You saw them just running in and talking about it.

00:21:04.000 They've been obsessed with it ever since they watch it, especially the little one.

00:21:07.000 And what struck me was this is a film, and more specifically, the character of He Man, where it's a depiction of masculinity in such a way that you just don't find anywhere else in the mainstream of entertainment, in children's entertainment.

00:21:29.000 You don't find anything anywhere where you've just got a big muscle-bound guy who, in a very positive way, is just wailing on bad guys.

00:21:40.000 And there's something about that where you just put a sword in a young boy's hand and have him hold it up and say, I have the power, that actually speaks to something that's very, very positive for young kids.

00:21:54.000 And so at first, I wasn't super into it, but then when I saw the reaction that they had to it, it made me appreciate it more because.

00:22:03.000 I was kind of thinking about it in contrast to all the other things that are out there in media today.

00:22:09.000 That is something for young boys that they could look to and say, you know what?

00:22:14.000 I want to be a hero just like He Man.

00:22:17.000 I can be just like He Man.

00:22:20.000 And look, if you're someone who's got a young girl right now, there's everything. 1.00

00:22:25.000 Everything is all female coded or feminine coded. 0.99

00:22:28.000 Whereas He Man is like the one thing where it's just like, yeah, I'm a dude who's got. 0.98

00:22:34.000 The power of the cosmos, the power of the sword.

00:22:37.000 And you know what?

00:22:38.000 I'm going to use it.

00:22:39.000 And by the way, the fact that it's a white guy doing that, they didn't like, you know, they did race swap man at arms, but they did not, but it's Intercelpa.

00:22:47.000 I mean, and they did not gender swap or race swap or do any of that nonsense.

00:22:53.000 It's something where I said, you know what?

00:22:56.000 This is actually good for young boys to see and that we should take them to see it.

00:23:01.000 And Blake, if you want to tie this in, there's something.

00:23:05.000 In the psychology of specifically the toys of the series, which I'm sure they're going to try to sell a lot of toys to kids like mine, that actually is at play here.

00:23:15.000 Yeah, so that's what we were thinking of linking it to here because He-Man infamously was originally created to basically sell toys.

00:23:23.000 In fact, I think the toys existed and then they made the show and then now the show, it all loops around.

00:23:28.000 But it turned into a thing that I guess is pretty old, but I only learned of it yesterday.

00:23:32.000 And it's the, we were debating what to call this the Batman to Barbie pipeline, the Batman shopping idea.

00:23:39.000 But it's literally how kids engage with toys, which is pretty funny because I was reading the excerpt here from that book where it's his daughter playing with the toys.

00:23:53.000 And we should wonder, how is she playing with the toys?

00:23:56.000 So it's It's this take that someone had.

00:23:58.000 Let me bring it up here.

00:24:01.000 Just a simple.

00:24:01.000 Classic green text.

00:24:02.000 Classic 4chan green text, by the way.

00:24:04.000 Yes.

00:24:05.000 So, what happens is this is all someone else brought it up, but it's the Batman shopping list.

00:24:09.000 I can't believe you never saw this before, by the way.

00:24:12.000 Yeah.

00:24:12.000 So, here's what someone alleged on 4chan ages ago Lego did a study when they created the Lego Friends line for girls where they discovered that when a boy plays with a toy of a character, it's totally different from how it is with a girl.

00:24:25.000 The boy tries to become the character, the girl wants the character to become her.

00:24:31.000 So, the example he gives you give a boy a Batman toy. 0.83

00:24:35.000 He wants to know what is Batman's origin, what is Batman's idea, how does Batman act and behave, and he'll play with Batman with Batman doing Batman things.

00:24:44.000 So, he'll be motivated.

00:24:45.000 I have to get revenge for my parents, but I can't kill anybody because Batman's not allowed to do that.

00:24:49.000 He's going to talk like this all the time.

00:24:51.000 All of that. 1.00

00:24:52.000 The girl, on the other hand, is going to take Batman and she's going to make Batman do girl stuff. 0.99

00:24:56.000 Batman will go shopping, he will bake cookies, he will go to the prom, he'll go to the bat prom. 0.97

00:25:02.000 And there's exceptions, he says, but the data says, This is what's going on there. 0.77

00:25:07.000 And then this leads into this is arguably the reason that Star Wars and so many other things have gone downhill after Kathleen Kennedy and similar people have taken over because when they're handed a property, they think, how can I make this property more like me?

00:25:24.000 True.

00:25:25.000 As opposed to, how do I steward this property in a way that makes sense with it?

00:25:29.000 So does Star Wars do stuff that makes sense in Star Wars terms?

00:25:32.000 Or are they just turning Star Wars into Ray has to go to the prom?

00:25:37.000 That's what they're doing.

00:25:39.000 That's what they're doing.

00:25:40.000 It's actually kind of funny.

00:25:41.000 I can vouch for this, by the way.

00:25:43.000 My children, my son specifically, with Star Wars, ever since it took him to go see Mandalorian, which Jack is still upset at me about, but he's obsessed with Mando.

00:25:53.000 They just called it when we told the audience to do something, we should hold ourselves to the same standard.

00:25:58.000 I didn't actually call anybody to do anything, so there's that.

00:26:03.000 Somebody isn't watching the episodes he's on.

00:26:05.000 I digress.

00:26:07.000 No, no, no.

00:26:08.000 I saw the chat.

00:26:09.000 I knew exactly.

00:26:09.000 But I just, you know, listen, my son wanted to go.

00:26:11.000 I had a great time with him.

00:26:12.000 Anyways, he's doing all the Mando things.

00:26:15.000 He's not making Mando do whatever, you know, he thinks he should do.

00:26:20.000 It just seems like he's.

00:26:22.000 And the other part that really resonates here is where you learn everything about him.

00:26:27.000 He knows, like, Mando facts, like about the character, about his weapons that are pretty obscure.

00:26:33.000 And he's kind of done that all on his own.

00:26:34.000 Like, I haven't been leading him down any path or anything.

00:26:37.000 So I can say, lived experience.

00:26:40.000 Totally matches this description. 0.99

00:26:42.000 So actually, that's exactly what my boys are doing, just real quick, with He Man.

00:26:46.000 They're doing the exact same thing.

00:26:47.000 It's like, you know, okay, who is mom and dad?

00:26:51.000 Okay, got it.

00:26:51.000 And what's the deal with the cat?

00:26:52.000 The cat, the tiger changes to battle cat when he has the power.

00:26:56.000 Okay, cool.

00:26:57.000 And they want to learn all those things about him.

00:27:00.000 But then it's also that I think the deeper thing that we're talking about here is like, so it's like a role playing in the sense that, hey, I can be He Man.

00:27:11.000 I can be.

00:27:12.000 Whatever Star Wars character you just made up.

00:27:16.000 I can be Batman in this situation.

00:27:20.000 And it's sort of like giving that actual empowerment.

00:27:22.000 Whereas with Lego, when they did, because Blake, in the thing you read, they talked about the Lego Friends line.

00:27:28.000 In the Lego Friends line, this is very similar to Barbie, where it's like they make personalized characters that you can go in and then customize, which is totally separate from like every other Lego set that's ever been made before.

00:27:43.000 And this was the psychology that allowed Lego to finally open up the female market, to market to young girls.

00:27:51.000 that they found that girls wanted that kind of toy more, whereas boys wanted to do role-playing. 0.63

00:27:56.000 And so rather than, and we've all seen this trope with the girls will have every toy story they talk about it, where the girl will have the action toys go to a tea party, because that's what girls do.

00:28:13.000 Whereas boys want to fight and play with the toys and view themselves as the toys.

00:28:18.000 There was actually that cool series, The Toys That Make Us.

00:28:21.000 Do you guys ever see that on Netflix?

00:28:24.000 Or, I think it was YouTube, maybe, that talks about how the toys were made.

00:28:30.000 And one piece, I wrote this up for Human Events, that when the toys were first made, to Blake's point, that they let them play with, they just let kids play with the toys.

00:28:39.000 And some of the boys were going back and forth saying, I have the power.

00:28:43.000 No, I have the power back.

00:28:45.000 And that's where they got the line from, was just actual kids playing in like a focus group. 0.72

00:28:52.000 And one of the things that they dug through and realized was that when you're a young boy like that, you're constantly surrounded in areas where women have like total authority, right? 0.62

00:29:03.000 You're at home and mom's the boss, you know, for most of the day you go to school, then, and, you know, the teaching staff is mostly female. 0.60

00:29:11.000 And so they feel powerless. 0.99

00:29:13.000 But now, now when I have this, I get to be He-Man and He-Man has all of the power.

00:29:19.000 So it's actually, it was a repudiation of the longhouse back then, whereas like today, this system has only gotten worse.

00:29:27.000 The situation has only gotten worse. 0.99

00:29:29.000 Because the longhouse of the female run consensus driven world is like literally everywhere you go. 1.00

00:29:36.000 And, you know, and we might disagree on this, but I actually took the first part of the movie as actually sort of showing that. 0.54

00:29:44.000 Because in the film, when it starts out, that's kind of the joke is that He Man actually works in an HR department and he has this like feminist girl boss director and he gets fired.

00:29:59.000 It doesn't go very well.

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00:31:02.000 So, speaking of how girls play with toys, I think there's kind of funny old proof of this, which is clearly based on probably what.

00:31:12.000 An early Pixar animator's own kids were doing.

00:31:15.000 But the original Toy Story, back before there was Four and Five and all these other, and the Gay Buzz Lightyear movie, we had the original Toy Story, which is amazing.

00:31:23.000 And you may remember there's a scene where Buzz ends up in the hands of Sid's little sister, and Woody goes to rescue him.

00:31:30.000 And let's show how they portrayed her playing with them.

00:31:33.000 Let's do clip 16.

00:31:35.000 Buzz, hey, Buzz, are you okay?

00:31:38.000 Gone!

00:31:40.000 It's all gone.

00:31:41.000 Oh, it's gone.

00:31:42.000 Bye bye. 1.00

00:31:43.000 Woohoo, Sia. 0.99

00:31:44.000 What happened to you? 1.00

00:31:45.000 One minute you're defending the whole galaxy, and suddenly you find yourself sucking down Darjeeling with Marie Antoinette and her little sister. 0.97

00:31:57.000 I think you've had enough tea for today. 0.94

00:32:00.000 Let's get you out of here, Buzz.

00:32:01.000 Don't you get it?

00:32:03.000 You see the hat?

00:32:04.000 I am Mrs. Nesbitt.

00:32:07.000 Snap out of it, Buzz!

00:32:14.000 I'm sorry, you're right.

00:32:16.000 I am just a little depressed, that's all.

00:32:19.000 I can get through this.

00:32:21.000 Oh, I'm a sham!

00:32:23.000 I can't even fly out of a window.

00:32:27.000 But the hat looked good.

00:32:28.000 Tell me the hat looked good.

00:32:30.000 The apron is a bit much.

00:32:31.000 Out the window, boss.

00:32:33.000 You're a genius.

00:32:35.000 Come on, this way.

00:32:37.000 Years of academy training, waste.

00:32:41.000 Oh, I love the original.

00:32:42.000 I love it.

00:32:43.000 I am Mrs. Nesbet.

00:32:45.000 Tell me the hat looks good.

00:32:46.000 Yeah, that's exactly the point, right?

00:32:48.000 That's the point that, like, the little girl made Buzz Lightyear, who's a, you know, an action spaceman, secret agent kind of character, into.

00:32:58.000 She put him in the longhouse.

00:33:00.000 She put him in the longhouse.

00:33:01.000 No, wait.

00:33:02.000 There's a natural.

00:33:03.000 The counterpoint here, though, that I'm seeing. 0.96

00:33:04.000 So, okay, girls will do this with boy toys. 0.67

00:33:08.000 Do you see the opposite?

00:33:09.000 Like, will boys, if put into this situation, like, where they only have Barbies to interact with, will they.

00:33:16.000 Will they play house or will they make her the girlfriend of Batman?

00:33:20.000 I don't know.

00:33:21.000 Do your boys ever play with girl coded toys in any capacity, Jack? 0.90

00:33:26.000 No, no, I feel that might be the issue.

00:33:29.000 There have been times where, like, we're like they've gone over, like, Tanya'll have girlfriends or something who have daughters.

00:33:35.000 And if we're like arrange a play date, like, they will just march right past the girl toys and pick up like a ball or something else. 0.67

00:33:43.000 Like, they just it's like they don't even exist.

00:33:46.000 Yeah, which is good, but it does strike me if we're going to engage with the thought crime here.

00:33:51.000 There might be an issue there if they're saying boys will get into the headspace of the toy.

00:33:55.000 Well, yeah, if the toy is awesome, but if the toy is domestic.

00:34:00.000 So my parents actually took it a step further and used essentially this thought process as why growing up, we weren't allowed to watch Star Wars.

00:34:10.000 We weren't allowed to watch Batman or Superman, which is hilarious because I'm a giant nerd now.

00:34:16.000 There was, we essentially would watch Animal Planet, Discovery Channel, the History Channel, but then there was this.

00:34:23.000 Animated show called Rescue Heroes, which is essentially they just made police officers firemen lifeguards doctors, like all these heroes, and so the whole show is literally just them, like oh, we have the wildfire, we have to go save the people, and literally you had like essentially a He Man style toys, but it was Billy Blazes, the fireman,

00:34:50.000 and he had like a mustache and everything and would they like all team up with each other.

00:34:54.000 So the paramedic just shows up to help.

00:34:55.000 It was literally like Avengers or JUST League, but like for first responders.

00:35:01.000 Did they have one guy who had like a really niche skill?

00:35:04.000 Like they'd have the Coast Guard guy who's good at water just tagging along in the desert rescue or something.

00:35:10.000 The Coast Guard guy actually had a pet dolphin that helped him on rescue.

00:35:15.000 That's actually pretty awesome.

00:35:16.000 Yeah.

00:35:17.000 And literally, you had these toys where you would have like a ship or there was like a big aircraft carrier.

00:35:22.000 It was literally the Avengers and Justice League, but for first off.

00:35:25.000 I feel like the real fantasy here is various public safety departments envisioning what they would do with an unlimited budget, like have a giant aircraft carrier for water rescues.

00:35:34.000 Angelo, I'm glad we have dad's weighing in.

00:35:36.000 Angelo does point out.

00:35:37.000 That boys do exactly one thing if they get their hands on a Barbie doll.

00:35:41.000 I think saying that, you can imagine it's dredging up childhood memories of myself at this point.

00:35:47.000 Yeah, yeah, we all know what that is.

00:35:52.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:35:52.000 Don't give Barbies to your boys. 1.00

00:35:53.000 We've all got childhood memories of doing the exact.

00:35:54.000 We've all got childhood memories of doing the exact. 0.97

00:35:56.000 Don't give Barbies to your boys.

00:35:59.000 And yeah, positive depictions of masculinity are good for young boys.

00:36:04.000 And I think that we should support those.

00:36:06.000 And that's why I'm saying just, you know, Put a sword in your young kid's hand.

00:36:12.000 I mean, if you're a boy or if you have boys or grandsons, you'll see that kids, young boys, will automatically be walking down the street and they pick up a stick and suddenly that stick turns into a sword and they're on an adventure.

00:36:29.000 Teach them that they have the power.

00:36:31.000 And this is key do not ever let anyone tell them they don't.

00:36:36.000 Exactly.

00:36:37.000 I'd say, even a bigger picture thing there, a thing that bothers me.

00:36:41.000 You'll have these adults who will say, This is a great kids' show because it engages with more nuance or whatever.

00:36:48.000 We made a character and their parents are divorced and they have a messed up home life.

00:36:52.000 And I'm really wondering if that should be basically considered very bad behavior for anyone who's under the age of 11 or 12 or something.

00:37:00.000 Because I feel like we actually benefit if you give kids zero irony, be an awesome superhero, and they're on a team of other awesome superheroes who do heroic, good stuff and they beat the bad guys.

00:37:11.000 You don't want all these weird.

00:37:13.000 Moral layers and ambiguities going on because then they'll just be messed up in the head and you want them to be superheroes.

00:37:18.000 Yeah.

00:37:19.000 And oh, by the way, I should also add, and since I appreciate you guys indulging this topic, because I do think it's important for parenting, it's not just about He Man, but where did the original He Man kind of fall off?

00:37:30.000 Like, why was something that was so popular that controlled the entire kid space, kiddom, until the late 80s?

00:37:41.000 And I argue that it was when they introduced.

00:37:45.000 He Man's sister, She Ra.

00:37:49.000 And they went all in on She Ra, and She Ra became the twin sister of He Man.

00:37:55.000 And then suddenly it wasn't just he has the power, it's that she has the power too.

00:38:01.000 And were there some girls that brought it?

00:38:03.000 I'm sure.

00:38:04.000 But, you know, what did it do?

00:38:07.000 I think it turned off a lot of the boys.

00:38:10.000 And it was something that kind of like, you know, made it so that the franchise just did not continue through the 90s.

00:38:19.000 And it never really took off again in the way that it had before.

00:38:24.000 And I think it was because they messed up the psychology.

00:38:28.000 The deprogramming of feminism in our culture is something that's worth thinking about and studying. 0.74

00:38:33.000 You know, I recently became aware of the fact that, you know, when the original suffragettes were kind of pushing their propaganda, guess who their main opponent was? 0.80

00:38:43.000 It was actually women.

00:38:45.000 Women. 1.00

00:38:45.000 So they would do these votes across the country. 1.00

00:38:49.000 And, you know, in Massachusetts, for example, they did some vote on.

00:38:54.000 Women's suffrage, and it was like 94 to 6.

00:38:57.000 The women were against it.

00:38:59.000 So it's very interesting when you think about this, it was like a 150 year project, maybe even longer, really, back to the 1840s.

00:39:08.000 It has been so long in the making, so deeply ingrained in the psyche of the culture that you kind of can't really understand for each person where the programming begins and ends.

00:39:19.000 So we've all been totally propagandized about this stuff.

00:39:22.000 And it is a weird phenomenon when it comes to the male psyche.

00:39:26.000 And I totally agree with you on this, Jack.

00:39:28.000 Men, if you celebrate them and push them and Champion them, they will go from boys to men.

00:39:34.000 They will become fully formed human adults with strength, power, and authority. 0.94

00:39:39.000 If you don't, if women swarm, they will shrink back. 0.96

00:39:43.000 I don't know if you want to call that a weakness of the sex. 1.00

00:39:47.000 I don't know.

00:39:47.000 But there is a thing that if you cut off a man's development early, he will not fully form.

00:39:53.000 He will become a weak man, he will become a shrinking violet.

00:39:56.000 He will do all the things that we don't want men to do.

00:39:59.000 But if you champion him and he gets fully formed, he's unstoppable.

00:40:02.000 And so you see this in the workplace. 0.97

00:40:04.000 One of the things that I keep thinking about, and Blake was the one who actually brought this to my attention, was the Helen Andrews piece, where she's talking about the great awakening, that the females are starting to overpopulate in corporate spaces. 0.98

00:40:17.000 They're becoming the majority in corporate spaces. 0.89

00:40:19.000 I think we can't underestimate how disastrous this can be because there is something about men. 0.83

00:40:25.000 You see this at university now, what, 62% of degrees go to women now at this point, which is obscene when men used to dominate.

00:40:33.000 It used to be like 80, 20%. 0.85

00:40:34.000 It's like invading locusts. 0.99

00:40:36.000 I mean, no disrespect to the women, but you got to champion men or they will shrink back.

00:40:40.000 But once they become fully formed, once they become powerful, they'll become the protectors of your civilization.

00:40:45.000 So I totally agree, Jack.

00:40:47.000 We need to encourage young men to watch He Man.

00:40:49.000 I think it's great.

00:40:50.000 It's great programming, it's great for the development of young boys' minds. 1.00

00:40:54.000 But there is something about women they'll just keep coming. 1.00

00:40:57.000 They'll just keep coming, and men will shrink back. 0.97

00:41:00.000 And maybe it is a weakness of the male sex, but you got to promote them.

00:41:04.000 You got to champion them. 0.76

00:41:07.000 Totally agree.

00:41:08.000 Yeah.

00:41:09.000 No, no, no.

00:41:09.000 I think that's all great.

00:41:10.000 I think the biggest picture thing of all is it illustrates the importance of dudes specifically really need implicitly all male spaces.

00:41:21.000 And some of that is actual organizations. 0.71

00:41:23.000 I think the Boy Scouts clearly went into a tailspin when they started letting girls in. 1.00

00:41:28.000 I don't think that's surprising. 0.98

00:41:30.000 But it's even with things, it's like you said with the He Man thing guys are going to want a thing that is just the guy thing. 0.94

00:41:36.000 I think it's really messed with the military that we've let women into it. 0.81

00:41:39.000 I think in an existential way, it's just. 1.00

00:41:42.000 Guys, this probably goes back to the step when the original proto Indo Europeans were expanding with their horse warrior legions to conquer the entirety of Europe and India and the Middle East and all of that. 0.97

00:41:55.000 But they got to have their group of dudes. 0.82

00:41:58.000 You got to have dudes robbed. 1.00

00:41:59.000 This is why I think it's diabolical that women always want to invade male spaces. 1.00

00:42:05.000 It's completely diabolical because we so fundamentally need those spaces. 1.00

00:42:09.000 We need those shows.

00:42:10.000 We need those programmings.

00:42:11.000 We need those experiences as young people.

00:42:14.000 And so they all get attacked.

00:42:15.000 That's what they're doing, though.

00:42:16.000 Every single one of these.

00:42:17.000 It's all biological there. 1.00

00:42:18.000 Women have the biological need to push against this, and they are testing if we have the resolve to say no.

00:42:25.000 And deep down, I think they want us to say no.

00:42:29.000 But are we going to be strong enough to do it?

00:42:31.000 Are we going to be strong enough to say no?

00:42:31.000 Yeah.

00:42:32.000 Yes, by the way.

00:42:33.000 We're not going to green light the She Raw movie. 1.00

00:42:36.000 Women are crying out. 1.00

00:42:37.000 Women are crying out across America don't make a She Raw movie, don't let it happen. 0.66

00:42:43.000 But they're saying the opposite. 1.00

00:42:45.000 Yeah.

00:42:45.000 And we have to be strong enough to be worthy.

00:42:46.000 Remember when they did that Ghostbusters with all women? 0.92

00:42:50.000 Yeah, see, they didn't actually want to make Chick Ghostbusters. 1.00

00:42:50.000 Oh, that was terrible. 1.00

00:42:54.000 They were saying, I want to make Chick Ghostbusters, crying out for a man to say, No, that's not necessary.

00:43:01.000 Kind of like the new Supergirl movie, which we haven't even talked about, but just, again, Crashed and Brown.

00:43:05.000 We're not even going to dignify that with an extended discussion.

00:43:09.000 I will say, having watched both, I'm glad that He-Man is out there, that they can go, that there is an op.

00:43:18.000 How did it do?

00:43:19.000 It's already been out for like a month.

00:43:21.000 How did it do, Jack?

00:43:22.000 It didn't do great on the first one.

00:43:23.000 He-Man did not do well.

00:43:24.000 He-Man did not do well.

00:43:25.000 No, He Man did not do well.

00:43:26.000 And I, it definitely did better than Supergirl, to be fair.

00:43:29.000 It did better than Supergirl, but I, it did not do that well.

00:43:31.000 And I would argue that's because they didn't lean into this type of marketing and doing it this way, you know, saying, Hey, this is a movie for boys and it's unapologetically a movie for boys.

00:43:43.000 Because in the marketing, they kind of played up, you know, some of these other aspects.

00:43:47.000 And I think that, I think that people maybe got the wrong take on it or they saw him sitting at a desk with pronouns and they didn't think that it was like a, Like a satire, it was making fun of the pronouns.

00:43:59.000 The first hour is pretty female-coated, and well, and they do this-a thing that I didn't care for looking at the trailer.

00:44:05.000 They throw in the, you know, they throw the little I know how to use it joke and a few similar things. 0.99

00:44:11.000 Like, they actually dilute what could be a boy adventure with a handful of bits of call it Joss Whedon-esque humor, you know, to make it flippant and light.

00:44:21.000 And this is totally, it appeals to millennials.

00:44:24.000 Look at this.

00:44:26.000 I think it's a big misfire.

00:44:27.000 It reminds me of when they were spot on.

00:44:29.000 When they made the Power Rangers movie about a decade ago.

00:44:32.000 And I saw it and I just thought, I saw it because I was a huge Power Rangers nut as a kid. 0.79

00:44:36.000 And I thought the way to do that movie would have been you go 10 out of 10, it's cartoonish, everyone's making weird Japanese hand gestures as they talk, just like in the show.

00:44:46.000 And they're all super earnest, all the kids are do gooders, just like they are in the show.

00:44:51.000 And you just give it a bigger budget and it'd be really entertaining.

00:44:53.000 And instead, they did that where they made it, oh, the kids are, they're now like bad boys and girls, they meet in detention.

00:45:01.000 One of them, like, she's, she feels, she's like disgraced because she shared, I think, nude photos of a friend, like, to, to hurt her.

00:45:09.000 And then that friend killed herself or something.

00:45:11.000 They added all this darkness.

00:45:12.000 And I'm like, this is a Power Rangers.

00:45:13.000 That was in Power Rangers?

00:45:15.000 Yeah, they had this in Power Rangers.

00:45:16.000 And it just totally messed up.

00:45:17.000 Well, I mean, we did go through a phase of the same time.

00:45:22.000 It was the same time that we had revenge porn in Power Rangers.

00:45:25.000 Yeah.

00:45:26.000 In Josh Trank, where it was like every superhero movie.

00:45:29.000 Darker and edgier.

00:45:30.000 It was so bad. 0.99

00:45:31.000 It was.

00:45:32.000 It was that.

00:45:33.000 It was that.

00:45:33.000 Chris and I inserted a lot of that.

00:45:35.000 Yeah, we need to.

00:45:35.000 We have too much irony in our society.

00:45:37.000 We need to take the irony out and tell kids they should be awesome because awesome people rock.

00:45:41.000 Yeah, we need corny.

00:45:42.000 Corny is okay.

00:45:43.000 Yeah.

00:45:44.000 It's okay to be corny.

00:45:47.000 Good conversation is about respect.

00:45:50.000 It's how we create a space where people are able to share their ideas and be heard.

00:45:54.000 Charlie knew that.

00:45:55.000 Turning Point still knows that.

00:45:56.000 And TikTok has always strived to build the kind of place that thrives on respectful connection, where curiosity fuels connection and we can share what's on our minds and learn from each other.

00:46:06.000 When ideas meet respect, good things happen.

00:46:08.000 On TikTok, you can find a mechanic explaining the why behind a problem most of us wouldn't even know how to name, or a father sharing a lifetime of knowledge with his viewers.

00:46:17.000 Viewers who listen, discuss, and then they respond.

00:46:20.000 TikTok turns connection into community through small acts of understanding.

00:46:24.000 You can feel it in the comments, in the thank you from a stranger halfway across the world.

00:46:28.000 TikTok is a place where respect opens the door for discussion, and discussion helps us build something real.

00:46:37.000 It reminds me of what my pastor used to say.

00:46:39.000 He would just like, because we always like present those, like, oh, he was a drug dealer and he went to prison and now he gave his life to Jesus.

00:46:46.000 He's like, I want to make a church.

00:46:48.000 I want to support and preach to a church that has a lot of boring testimonies.

00:46:54.000 We don't need everybody to be their life story to be something you could turn into a novel.

00:47:00.000 Let's just keep it straight.

00:47:02.000 Here's what's interesting, though, Blake.

00:47:03.000 You are right about this.

00:47:04.000 Demographic failure is what they say.

00:47:06.000 Audience data from Variety revealed the movie heavily relied on nostalgia, attracting an audience that was 66% male. 0.88

00:47:11.000 Not a bad thing, actually.

00:47:13.000 But here's the bad thing and 40% over the age of 45.

00:47:16.000 It completely failed to capture younger crowds with children under age. 12 making up only 4% of the audience.

00:47:23.000 So, something to Jack's point that could have been so good for young people didn't get to any young people.

00:47:28.000 But, anyway, what's interesting is this.

00:47:30.000 45, they're really, they're just dragging it.

00:47:31.000 It's like, hey, well, this is what I mean.

00:47:34.000 What is nostalgia?

00:47:34.000 Wasn't it the first trailer?

00:47:36.000 They kept bouncing between the 1983 He Man and the new, like, they kept kind of interspersing the scenes.

00:47:44.000 So, that was, it was very much, yeah, they were going after the nostalgia.

00:47:46.000 But get this MGM Studios may still green light a sequel.

00:47:51.000 Because it is considered a core IP asset and can drive prime video streaming subscriptions in long term ecosystems.

00:47:58.000 Because MTM's owned by Amazon.

00:48:01.000 I can see this movie becoming a streaming hit.

00:48:04.000 I can absolutely see this movie becoming a streaming hit.

00:48:07.000 Because especially if you have the ability to forward and rewind, you can forward through the first hour of this film and kids will just literally just enjoy the action part.

00:48:17.000 Yeah, my five year old, to your point, he'll be like, Daddy, I don't want to watch the talking parts.

00:48:23.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:48:24.000 Well, and that's the biggest thing.

00:48:26.000 I just want to watch the He Man parts.

00:48:28.000 That first hour is very important for movies.

00:48:32.000 For sure.

00:48:33.000 Yeah.

00:48:34.000 And Amazon does own.

00:48:35.000 If they turn it into a stream.

00:48:36.000 Yeah.

00:48:36.000 So Amazon owns MGM.

00:48:38.000 So something to be said, and, you know, obviously Disney has been, you know, Andrew, this is more your lane of country, but something I know Disney has been experimenting with this as well is sort of like the in the theater plus on streaming, either simultaneous release or you do like a couple.

00:48:56.000 You know, a couple weeks in theater and then you go to streaming because if you have a streaming service that's owned by the studio, which used to be separate, so it used to be separate income streams, now it's the same company owns both.

00:49:09.000 And so you can make your money back or you can do other things that make your money back with the streaming service.

00:49:16.000 So that overall piece there of, you know, the box office isn't always going to be the end all be all.

00:49:23.000 And of course, Warner Brothers with DC, they just got bought out.

00:49:27.000 You know, they're tied up in the big Paramount merger.

00:49:30.000 So that's not.

00:49:31.000 Totally, you know, it's not totally the ink is not dried on that.

00:49:35.000 I'm actually told by a guy who I know on the HBO side that they haven't fully vested, et cetera, or whatever.

00:49:41.000 But, you know, it's we're just changing the marketplace, is basically what I'm saying.

00:49:46.000 There is an extra credit scene for He Man that shows She Raw, and it's heavily implied that it's going to be Sidney Sweeney.

00:49:57.000 So if they're going to actually make money off of a movie, that would be the best way to do it, is to have her be the.

00:50:03.000 Be Sheeran.

00:50:05.000 Why not?

00:50:09.000 Well, we go full circle.

00:50:12.000 Oh my gosh.

00:50:13.000 We've now gone full circle with Barbie dolls.

00:50:15.000 Which will, you know, while our mind is in the gutter, we may as well keep it there because we need to have a debate over ID verification because Congress is, they're not lurching into action on birthright citizenship.

00:50:28.000 They're not lurching into action on a lot of things.

00:50:29.000 But Democrats and Republicans have finally come together to say that we should restrict the Internet more.

00:50:35.000 And we were actually having a big debate about this in our pre show chat.

00:50:39.000 So we thought, why not bring it on there?

00:50:40.000 The segue here, I guess, is that this is, it's also about kids in a sense.

00:50:46.000 Because there's an act that is going through Congress right now talking about, you know, and when you look at the headline of it, you know, you'd think this would be something that everyone would support, that a lot of parents would support about banning children from accessing pornography online.

00:51:08.000 This is obviously something that we can all agree is good.

00:51:11.000 This is something that Charlie talked about at length, including, I believe, on this program and certainly, obviously, on the main show.

00:51:18.000 This is something that we all want to do.

00:51:20.000 A lot of states have been adding these age verifications at the state level for these websites.

00:51:27.000 However, what this new bill is doing, and oh gosh, that just passed the House, I believe.

00:51:34.000 And Blake, if you have the name of it, you could help me with that.

00:51:36.000 Yeah, it has just that lovely name, the Kids Internet and Digital Safety Act, which I've been around the block enough to say, like, that's the one being pushed by Meta.

00:51:47.000 Think of the children.

00:51:48.000 Think of the children.

00:51:51.000 So, that all sounds good.

00:51:52.000 You got to look whoever is sponsoring this stuff.

00:51:54.000 What are the problems with it?

00:51:57.000 And yeah, let's see if it's Pushman Meta.

00:52:00.000 I don't know who it was.

00:52:01.000 I think the main person they bothered to name in this write up about it is Senator Marsha Blackburn, who is a Republican, but I mean, it actually passed with bipartisan support.

00:52:11.000 I just, you know, if you look at the details, it says that companies have to have ways to limit addictive features in their apps for kids.

00:52:20.000 You need to have policies in place to protect children from sexual exploitation.

00:52:26.000 A Senate version, which would be even tougher, would add a duty of care on social media companies for young people, which that strikes me as something that would be really dangerous because you're essentially creating this unlimited ambit for the government to come in and say, oh, this company wasn't following its duty of care towards children.

00:52:47.000 We can blow it to smithereens.

00:52:49.000 And all I can think of is that would be so easy to blow up.

00:52:53.000 Twitter, for example, X, and say, oh, you were allowing kids to get access to inappropriate content because it was racist, because it was pornographic, because it was any number of things.

00:53:03.000 Better blow it to smithereens.

00:53:05.000 And that's why I'm always wary of any online safety bill, personally.

00:53:09.000 I don't understand why we don't just do something.

00:53:13.000 I don't.

00:53:15.000 Well, okay, go ahead.

00:53:18.000 So you're asking why Meta is behind it.

00:53:20.000 It says Meta, just real quick, Meta is behind it.

00:53:23.000 Because this puts the onus on the App Store and the Play Store and gives immunity to what they refer to as like the social media providers.

00:53:33.000 So Facebook, et cetera, those guys would have protections.

00:53:37.000 Whereas they're saying the onus is now on the phone level, basically.

00:53:42.000 Well, and that's a lot of that also has to be because like Facebook has already done a bunch to limit access to like Facebook.

00:53:55.000 And to Instagram with kids.

00:53:56.000 Like you've got, you now have parental controls.

00:53:59.000 You now have time controls.

00:54:01.000 Well, they're limiting liability.

00:54:03.000 It's all about limiting liability, right?

00:54:05.000 And I don't understand why.

00:54:07.000 So I would love the option.

00:54:08.000 So I sign up for internet at my house, right?

00:54:10.000 I pay the internet service provider a monthly fee.

00:54:13.000 I would love the option to opt in to any of these porn websites are disallowed in your house.

00:54:23.000 And if you want to like go in the back end and like they get one of them wrong or something, but if somebody, Created like a database that, hey, these websites are unavailable at your house.

00:54:31.000 I would opt into that for the sake of my family, for the sake of the internet, for the sake of the country.

00:54:36.000 I think a lot of families would.

00:54:38.000 That seems to be, if you're just dealing with porn, that's one thing.

00:54:41.000 This thing is too broad sweeping.

00:54:44.000 And I think it opens the Pandora's box of censorship and potentially creating criminal liability or civil liability on stuff that should be the parent's domain.

00:54:54.000 That's my first instinct here.

00:54:58.000 Yeah.

00:54:58.000 So, I mean, I'm sure there's apps or VPNs that already do that.

00:55:02.000 And you're absolutely right.

00:55:03.000 There should be something that is done at the service provider level.

00:55:08.000 The.

00:55:09.000 The issue that I see with it, of course, though, from a privacy standpoint, though, and this is where I've seen a lot of pushback online, is people are saying, well, wait a minute.

00:55:18.000 You know, is this going to create some giant government database where the government can then see every single person who's associated with a certain username online?

00:55:30.000 And I'm a huge support.

00:55:33.000 So if that's true, I'm totally opposed to something like that because I think, look, the MAGA movement would not exist without internet anonymity.

00:55:43.000 We've all lived in a world where we have seen people canceled over anonymous writings that have later then been, you know, attributed to them or just, you know, regular writings that have attributed to them that are totally, just totally normal opinions, you know, as a, we keep meaning to cover it, but like the opinions of a normal person 30 years ago.

00:56:04.000 And I think that we live in a time that we're totally controlled by the longhouse.

00:56:09.000 We're totally controlled by our institutions, are controlled by our enemies.

00:56:13.000 We had debanking going on up until like, Five minutes ago, of conservatives.

00:56:18.000 And so, you know, giving away internet anonymity would be a very, very foolish move to do on like the grand chessboard.

00:56:30.000 I don't think we are, I don't think you need anonymity all the time, though.

00:56:37.000 Like, I don't think that there is a reason to, like, yeah, sure.

00:56:43.000 Is it nice to sometimes be able to, like, not, like, Be able to kind of cover yourself.

00:56:50.000 But I don't think anonymity, especially on the internet, is anything more than a smokescreen because everybody has an iPhone.

00:56:59.000 Everybody uses their Face ID.

00:57:02.000 Everybody, or not just Russ, not just an iPhone.

00:57:05.000 But think about it.

00:57:07.000 So listen, I think your heart's in the right place, but think about it in terms of politics, right?

00:57:10.000 How many amazing conservative right wing MAGA accounts existed simply because they were able to be anonymous?

00:57:17.000 And tell the truth online.

00:57:19.000 If their identities would have been doxxed, then they would have lost their jobs.

00:57:22.000 They would have been, you know, we're in this unique position where we're able to be, say, say and do and think what we want freely and not be fired for it, not be sent to the HR team.

00:57:32.000 That's just not the case for a lot of people.

00:57:34.000 They have to protect their identities.

00:57:36.000 I remember when this debate became front and center.

00:57:40.000 It was like Jordan Peterson versus Cerno, is the way I remember it.

00:57:43.000 Do you remember this poso where Jordan Peterson was raging against the Anon accounts?

00:57:50.000 It was like, you know, and I completely, you know, I respected where he's in the book.

00:57:53.000 Jordan Peterson 1.0, I'm going to hold him to this.

00:57:55.000 Jordan Peterson 1.0 in 2017 went on Joe Rogan and was celebrating Annons online and was saying that, like, these accounts are great.

00:58:07.000 I love it.

00:58:07.000 They're so good.

00:58:09.000 They say things that no one else can say.

00:58:10.000 You need to be anonymous in a time like this.

00:58:12.000 Like, the guy literally was like preaching Solzhenitsyn, who obviously, you know, lived in the Soviet Union.

00:58:18.000 So at a place where the anonymity was necessary or you could die.

00:58:22.000 And then all of a sudden, Jordan Peterson like totally flipped on that during like COVID.

00:58:27.000 Okay. 0.94

00:58:28.000 I will say what totally happens is there are people who are broadly in favor of anonymity, or they turn against it and crash out over it because anonymous people pick fights with them online and they can't handle it, which I think is kind of a little lame and pathetic.

00:58:44.000 I think there's also just 100% I've seen people who think, oh, people who are anonymous basically shouldn't be allowed to have takes.

00:58:52.000 I've seen that.

00:58:53.000 I think Richard Hanani has argued that.

00:58:55.000 And then there's also just.

00:58:59.000 How to put it?

00:59:01.000 Like, some people just can't handle anonymous people existing.

00:59:05.000 And I think it's actually a very important right that if you have the ability to say something, you should be able to say it anonymously, period.

00:59:12.000 And another thing I would add is if you've been around online enough, you've seen sometimes journalists or activists will be feuding with someone and they're clearly trying to goad somebody into giving them their identity just so they can go and mess with their life and mess around with them.

00:59:29.000 I mean, it's happened with all of the.

00:59:30.000 Lunatic conspiracy theorists around Charlie.

00:59:32.000 They want to probe into everyone's personal life.

00:59:34.000 I've seen them do this to random people pushing back against them online.

00:59:39.000 You have to have the ability to be anonymous because it is one of the fundamental tools that an ordinary person has to resist those who want to act tyrannically against them.

00:59:49.000 Sometimes that's government.

00:59:50.000 Sometimes that's just organizations and companies.

00:59:52.000 Sometimes it's just people who have more social power than you.

00:59:54.000 But are we really saying that the government doesn't already have a list of people with their handles?

01:00:01.000 And they can't find that.

01:00:03.000 They have a lot.

01:00:03.000 They can't find that.

01:00:04.000 They have a lot, but it's a pain in the butt for them.

01:00:06.000 And there's weird bureaucratic obstacles that, if you tear them down, will make it a lot easier for them to weaponize.

01:00:12.000 For sure.

01:00:12.000 To weaponize.

01:00:13.000 So, prison.

01:00:14.000 So, this is where.

01:00:16.000 Prison was a thing and was taking all of our data for years before it ever got whistleblowed.

01:00:23.000 So, saying that the government doesn't already have a list of people and their handles.

01:00:33.000 Is kind of ludicrous when you think about it.

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01:01:58.000 I will say though, it's like this is where I get really torn up on the Palantir debate, you know, because they're trying to build databases and get the different agencies to talk to each other so that the government is, you know, For example, the Social Security Administration knows what the welfare and Medicaid know, et cetera, et cetera. 1.00

01:02:19.000 I support that because I want to get rid of illegals off the rolls. 1.00

01:02:21.000 I want to get them off the. 1.00

01:02:23.000 I want to detect fraud.

01:02:24.000 But yeah, there is a point where you're kind of like, I do want to be able to be left alone and not surveilled all the time if I want to be, you know, and there needs to be a line.

01:02:38.000 So, yeah, I mean, I guess I'm arguing this from a pragmatic perspective, whereas obviously I want to protect internet anonymity online as much as possible, having been a guy who had Palantir access and not Prism access, but access to other things.

01:02:53.000 It's like the user.

01:02:57.000 In the intelligence community, doesn't have the ability to just like look up anything like that.

01:03:00.000 Like, there are still, as Blake says, there are all these like hoops you have to jump through.

01:03:04.000 There are bureaucratic protections, et cetera.

01:03:06.000 You can't just like blanket go after people the way that you could potentially if you were like, say, a bad actor at Apple or Google.

01:03:14.000 And we certainly know that there are lots of bad actors at Google, probably Apple as well.

01:03:18.000 And when, certainly, if you look at their founder's ex and the way that she spends her money, the widow. 0.99

01:03:27.000 You don't want to make it easy for these companies to be able to do that, number one.

01:03:33.000 But number two, to Andrew's point, that this is where libertarianism fails.

01:03:39.000 And I think we've talked about this a number of times, is that they keep saying, like, oh, we shouldn't give the government this power.

01:03:44.000 We shouldn't give the government this power.

01:03:46.000 And then along comes someone who just gives the government that power.

01:03:48.000 And then suddenly they have it.

01:03:50.000 And now you're stuck in a corner arguing that they shouldn't have it, but they're never going to give up said power.

01:03:55.000 So the only actual viable option left to you is to take over the government because you have to control the sword, right?

01:04:03.000 You must, it's going back to He-Man, right?

01:04:06.000 You have to be the one who picks up the sword and says, this is mine now, and then you must defend it because just because power can be wielded in an abusive way doesn't mean that you should just like sit in the corner and argue like, oh, well, we shouldn't do anything that's going to give ourselves power because eventually they will find a way to get power and come after you.

01:04:25.000 And we've certainly all experienced that.

01:04:27.000 We've all seen that throughout the Biden era, no question.

01:04:30.000 Merrick Garland.

01:04:33.000 And it is where you just need to fight back.

01:04:35.000 You just need to be able to fight back.

01:04:38.000 Well, isn't this law, though, Jack?

01:04:39.000 Isn't this law like if you're trying to look at porn or something like that, you have to put in like an ID?

01:04:48.000 Isn't that part of this law?

01:04:49.000 I think that's the state law.

01:04:50.000 I think that's the state law.

01:04:51.000 That's currently where the state law is like that, I know.

01:04:54.000 Yeah.

01:04:54.000 This is a law that says if you, I guess, want to download apps, you have to put in government ID.

01:05:05.000 See, that's very uncomfortable for me.

01:05:07.000 I kind of think there's eccentric ways to go about this that would make it better, too.

01:05:12.000 So, for example, one of the ideas I've liked for adult websites, for pornographic ones, is you'd have the requirement that you have to pay for it.

01:05:21.000 Even if it's 10 cents, you have to actually go and input a credit card into it.

01:05:26.000 Maybe you go and get one of those prepaid ones if you want to get around it.

01:05:29.000 But I think one, a lot of people will finally be attacked with shame when they're realizing I am paying for this dirty product.

01:05:37.000 And two, it's just a hurdle that's annoying to get over.

01:05:40.000 So you're increasing the commitment needed to get it.

01:05:42.000 And that's essentially what the states are relying on by having you put in your government ID.

01:05:46.000 Yes.

01:05:47.000 Because you have to essentially take a picture of your ID.

01:05:49.000 Again.

01:05:50.000 So it is that.

01:05:51.000 Yeah.

01:05:52.000 Listen, I'm all for good ideas to reduce porn consumption, especially amongst young people.

01:05:58.000 But when you're getting into the point where you have to put an ID in, there's just something about that that feels, again, like counter the freedom.

01:06:10.000 That we should have as Americans.

01:06:13.000 Again, I think there should be massive, massive tools to fight back against this stuff, but having to put your ID in to download an app, I don't know.

01:06:21.000 It just feels like against the spirit of the internet.

01:06:26.000 Well, one of the arguments, and I was just pulling up some stuff about it, was they were pointing out that one of the reasons that Meta may be for this so much is that this actually, to your point earlier, takes the liability away from Meta and takes the liability away in the way that the state laws are actually much stricter.

01:06:45.000 So the state laws are stricter, but obviously a state law couldn't countermand a national law.

01:06:51.000 So that's why.

01:06:53.000 Meta and probably a bunch of the other tech companies are sitting there saying, hey, the way that we can beat these state laws is by passing this national law, which is actually just going to be like a thin veneer of regulation that isn't going to really prevent anyone from seeing this kind of stuff.

01:07:09.000 It's legal immunity.

01:07:10.000 But it gets the liability off our back.

01:07:13.000 Yeah, but here's the thing tech savvy kids are going to find a way around that, by the way.

01:07:18.000 And the other thing that comes to mind is where are they going to go to get this stuff?

01:07:23.000 If they're not going on the normal internet, are they going to like 4chan chats?

01:07:29.000 Are they going to Reddit chats?

01:07:30.000 Where are they going to go?

01:07:32.000 Some sort of dark web corners where maybe they're, I don't know.

01:07:37.000 There's just like a thousand bad things that can happen if you start doing this.

01:07:43.000 But again, I support it in spirit, but I just think like so many other things that conservatives end up doing from a legislative standpoint, the law of unintended consequences and they're betraying certain principles that we shouldn't betray.

01:07:59.000 I don't know.

01:07:59.000 You're here.

01:08:01.000 Whatever Blake thinks.

01:08:02.000 I mean, my big take generally, it's, you know, we think of ways to negotiate this.

01:08:07.000 And my big take is basically that an almost fully anonymous internet had essentially zero downsides.

01:08:14.000 Everything we've done to curtail that has been because of panic attacks people had.

01:08:18.000 Was the internet bad in 2014?

01:08:20.000 Because that's how long ago you have to go back to basically totally unfettered, super anonymous, super free internet.

01:08:27.000 That's when Reddit still had subreddits that weren't.

01:08:30.000 And why did they take it away?

01:08:31.000 They took it away because Libs got mad because they thought it was, oh, we can't stop it.

01:08:34.000 Yeah, they took it away because Trump won because of the add ons in 2016.

01:08:38.000 Because Gamergate and then, you know, sort of the online sphere in 2016 that it morphed into that became the MAGA supporters that eventually, you know, and it's like those people kept getting unmasked.

01:08:52.000 And it's like, oh, it turns out that they were actually like people who were quite professional or quite intelligent that for whatever reason had been, you know, pushed out of their companies or pushed out of the academy or whatever it was.

01:09:03.000 That's why it became such a threat.

01:09:05.000 And so we all praise Elon for returning us to some semblance of that and allowing that to happen again, not that there aren't issues with X. One of which, by the way, I'd be remiss if I didn't mention that I think it's a huge mistake that pornography is allowed on X.

01:09:21.000 I continue to say that that's a huge mistake.

01:09:23.000 I think that Elon should take steps to correct that.

01:09:26.000 I don't think that it should be something that's allowed to be shared at all on X.

01:09:31.000 I think it's bad, although I will note it was allowed on their back.

01:09:33.000 Again, during these super liberal free speech times as well.

01:09:36.000 And I will say, bizarrely, that's for how much smut is injected everywhere in life.

01:09:42.000 I will say, I never, ever accidentally run into smut on X as far as being there.

01:09:47.000 I don't ever see it on X.

01:09:49.000 So they are pretty good at keeping you alive.

01:09:51.000 One of the big problems with X.

01:09:52.000 No, I'll just say it.

01:09:53.000 One of the big problems is if you're using the advanced search tools where you're searching every tweet, that a lot of these pornographers then will target trending topics or city names that are trending.

01:10:08.000 And then put that in the description of the tweet.

01:10:10.000 So if you're using an advanced Twitter search tool, which I use all the time, that then those tweets will start coming up.

01:10:18.000 So, you won't see them typically on your actual algorithm, but if you're using advanced search or if you just typed in, like, you know, you're searching for something, like, boom, you're just hit with it.

01:10:28.000 And you're like, what the heck is this?

01:10:30.000 I just, on balance, think that the ultra, you know, the liberalized internet in the classical sense was basically a great thing.

01:10:37.000 And it's only been downhill when it's been restricted in any way.

01:10:42.000 And it's just annoyingly easy for the left to say, this is for the kids.

01:10:46.000 And they get the right on board with stuff that.

01:10:49.000 Inevitably, it doesn't really protect kids much and does open the door to a bunch of other things.

01:10:55.000 And even it's just how often does this happen where they say, okay, we're worried about kids getting groomed on the internet?

01:11:01.000 I know that's a reasonable fear to think about, but actually, how often does that happen versus, let's say, the most mundane thing in the world?

01:11:09.000 What would save more kids if we said we're going to have this strict internet control regime to stop groomers, or actually, you're not allowed to raise a kid with your mom's boyfriend?

01:11:19.000 He's not allowed to live in the same house as you.

01:11:21.000 I bet that would stop a lot more child abuse than any of this.

01:11:25.000 Yeah.

01:11:26.000 I just want to say it again.

01:11:27.000 I would love if they just dealt with it at the internet service provider level.

01:11:32.000 Like every house, like here's your Cox or here's your whatever internet service.

01:11:37.000 And they just said, do you want to opt in for your children to ban these certain websites?

01:11:41.000 Yeah.

01:11:41.000 It's great.

01:11:42.000 That's still going to be something from Congress because no company is going to actually do that.

01:11:48.000 Well, I mean, there's already probably like third party groups that have it.

01:11:52.000 Yeah, but it doesn't have to be mandated.

01:11:55.000 Parental controls aren't like a new thing.

01:11:58.000 Like, parental controls exist for, like, I have it for Roku, for example.

01:12:02.000 We have like a Roku house, and you know, I have it set up that like my kids can download and purchase.

01:12:09.000 And you get it at the source.

01:12:11.000 You get it at the source because, like, right now, it's like if I want to put parental controls, I got to deal with like this streamer, this streamer, this like laptop, whatever.

01:12:18.000 Like, we're not really at that phase yet.

01:12:21.000 But it sort of makes you wonder, like, It's like whack a mole right now, as opposed to just like, hey, you can opt in to something simple.

01:12:31.000 I think that would be a simpler solution.

01:12:33.000 I think how decentralized it is and how different each platform is, you almost have to learn each new thing that your kid can get and get access to in order to do it.

01:12:43.000 I think it's a huge, huge problem.

01:12:46.000 And I think most parents are confused.

01:12:47.000 How do you like it?

01:12:47.000 It sounds like you need a ticket guy.

01:12:49.000 But if I'm feeling like that, Russ, then how many other parents is his?

01:12:56.000 I'm not offering my services.

01:12:57.000 I'm already my parents' tech guy.

01:12:59.000 I don't need to be someone else.

01:13:01.000 Hey, whoa, whoa, this opportunity, man. 1.00

01:13:03.000 Like, pitch, shoot your shot, man. 0.99

01:13:07.000 It shouldn't be this hard. 0.99

01:13:08.000 It shouldn't be this hard as a parent.

01:13:10.000 That's all I'm saying.

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01:14:13.000 I want to make sure we've been going a while.

01:14:15.000 We've said we'd double back to this, and I think we need to double back to it.

01:14:18.000 We've got to double back to the AC question. 0.91

01:14:21.000 Should Europeans have rights given that they have been granted freedom and they use it to deny themselves air conditioning? 0.76

01:14:29.000 Like absolute psychopaths? 0.92

01:14:32.000 No. 0.99

01:14:32.000 We need to shut down European governments until we can understand what the hell is going on. 0.99

01:14:38.000 Because.

01:14:40.000 Uh, apparently, in some countries, they are actually.

01:14:44.000 I think it was the UK where they were shutting down.

01:14:48.000 There's a massive heat wave going on in Europe, temperatures are like over 100 degrees Fahrenheit because that's God's uh temperature system.

01:14:58.000 We're not going to use anything else around it, it's more granular, it is more granular, and we are going to use it, which is based off of water, which is the source of all life, and as opposed to any other systems.

01:15:13.000 They're all dying, Jack.

01:15:14.000 They're all dying.

01:15:15.000 They're all dying because they're refusing to allow people to use air conditioning because they all believe in climate change.

01:15:23.000 Blake, is this actually true?

01:15:25.000 Yes. 0.99

01:15:26.000 It seems that the Europeans, who have largely abandoned Christianity and abandoned their great civilizing mission that uplifted the entire planet, they have now embraced the culture of decay, the culture of assisted suicide, and the culture of just overheating yourself to death. 0.99

01:15:42.000 Headed the way of the heathen. 0.93

01:15:44.000 I actually think this is a really, this is actually a profoundly important thing because the left itself is allowing the world to split into a political axis of pro air conditioning and anti air conditioning.

01:15:57.000 And there are fewer, there are very few issues I think we can get a 90 10 advantage on.

01:16:03.000 And I think we can get that on air conditioning should exist and is awesome and we should put it in everything.

01:16:08.000 Now, here, I got to ask a question.

01:16:10.000 Jack, what do you keep your thermostat at?

01:16:16.000 Taylor Lorenz, though. 1.00

01:16:18.000 As a guy who has a European wife, this is constantly an issue in my household because, of course, Tanya Tay is not a super big fan of air conditioning to begin with. 0.87

01:16:34.000 So we currently ride around like 71, 72.

01:16:40.000 Okay.

01:16:41.000 Andrew.

01:16:42.000 Which represents a compromise, to be sure.

01:16:45.000 74.

01:16:47.000 Okay.

01:16:47.000 Blake.

01:16:48.000 You answer first.

01:16:49.000 No, I'm asking you.

01:16:52.000 This is going to make me sound truly demented.

01:16:56.000 Most of the time, when I am at home, if I'm not trying to go to sleep, I keep it at like 79.

01:17:02.000 Gee, many Christmas.

01:17:04.000 Okay.

01:17:04.000 Wow.

01:17:05.000 We float between 73 and 75.

01:17:08.000 I turn it on.

01:17:09.000 What's weird, what I will say is when my air conditioner is running in my apartment, it like, wherever I am for whatever reason, I can feel it actively blowing on me, it seems.

01:17:21.000 And it always makes it feel way too cold, such that even in, like, if I'm in a t shirt, I keep a longer sleeve kind of like a woolen thing that I had from when I lived in DC.

01:17:30.000 And I just keep it on my computer because sometimes if the AC starts running colder in, like, late at night before I go to bed, I will just put that on because it is uncomfortably cold to be in a t shirt.

01:17:41.000 So I just don't want that during the afternoon.

01:17:42.000 I say, screw this.

01:17:43.000 I'm just setting it to 79 so it's not running that often.

01:17:47.000 I would rather put a sweatshirt on than turn the heat up, like, turn the AC up any higher.

01:17:53.000 Or, especially with the winter here in Arizona, I'll open windows and just turn the AC off or like the air off.

01:18:03.000 But I would rather put a sweatshirt on, put a beanie on, put sweats on than I would turn that thing off. 0.99

01:18:09.000 So, this is, I don't want to be a European. 0.80

01:18:11.000 Wait, Russ, that was me when I was at Gitmo.

01:18:14.000 So, we had these barracks that were basically like corrugated steel, you know, kind of like temporary barracks that people were living in.

01:18:24.000 And so, you're in Cuba, right?

01:18:25.000 So, the middle of the summer, that's exactly what I did, man.

01:18:28.000 I just cranked that AC like as low as it would go.

01:18:31.000 And I put like all my sweats on, like all my PT sweats.

01:18:34.000 And then when I would go out to like, you know, it's like a Saturday, so I'm not on duty or whatever.

01:18:40.000 And, I would go out to the DFAC to go get food.

01:18:45.000 I would forget that it's hot outside.

01:18:48.000 So I'd be like, have all my sweats on.

01:18:49.000 And then I'd take one step outside and be like, oh no, I made a horrible decision.

01:18:53.000 And run back in and change.

01:18:55.000 That's how it happens in Arizona.

01:18:57.000 It'll be like 110 outside.

01:18:59.000 It's frigid cold. 0.98

01:19:00.000 Then all of a sudden you walk outside and you're like, oh crap, never mind.

01:19:04.000 Yeah, this is why I feel like I've adapted to the desert here, which is yeah, 79 is kind of warm, but it's also about.

01:19:12.000 25 to 35 degrees cooler than it is outside.

01:19:15.000 And I think that's what you need you need that element of distinction.

01:19:19.000 But I'll be honest, I find it a little annoying when it's hyper AC'd.

01:19:26.000 So if I go to a store and it's 115 degrees outside and then they're ACing it down to 61 degrees or something, it's annoying because, among other things, it means I have to wear long sleeves outside because I'm going to be going into the deep freeze anytime I go to a store.

01:19:42.000 It just.

01:19:43.000 The contrast gets a little annoying.

01:19:44.000 I've never seen that about Arizona.

01:19:46.000 Arizona, it's like you're too hot outside and you're too cold inside because everybody runs the AC at like 65 in Arizona.

01:19:53.000 It's obscene.

01:19:54.000 74, that's comfortable.

01:19:56.000 You don't have to wear sweatshirts and all this stuff inside.

01:19:59.000 And then outside, you get well acclimated.

01:20:02.000 I mean, hey, here's the thing about Arizona.

01:20:03.000 The overacing is crazy, but at least we're not dying in mass like they are in Europe. 0.86

01:20:07.000 That's true.

01:20:08.000 Well, before we close out, because I know we're getting to time, I've got to read this take from Sarah.

01:20:15.000 Salviander on X, it's so perfect.

01:20:18.000 Where she just writes about the heat wave, she talks about in Europe, she talks about how in France apparently already a thousand people, like a thousand people, have died because of excess heat.

01:20:30.000 And she writes, and yet they're still not allowing AC.

01:20:35.000 And she writes, You can't squash the religious impulse.

01:20:39.000 If you remove God, it will just manifest in other ways.

01:20:42.000 In secular religion, there is an abundant guilt and atonement.

01:20:45.000 But little love and forgiveness.

01:20:47.000 The rituals of atonement are harsh, sometimes to the point of death.

01:20:52.000 Mercy, you deserve no mercy.

01:20:54.000 The earth will not take the punishment for your sins as Christ did.

01:20:58.000 You will.

01:20:59.000 You are the human sacrifice for the sins of humankind.

01:21:04.000 So that gets me thinking a funny thing, which would be we're used to in Christianity, we'll have Lenten fasts.

01:21:09.000 So, Jack, you know, we can't have meat on Fridays.

01:21:12.000 Actually, I'm a fan of the total meat fast during Lent because that's what it traditionally was.

01:21:17.000 We're used to fasting from certain foods.

01:21:19.000 Or a certain conduct, would it actually be a sound religious fast to just fast from AC for a period of time?

01:21:28.000 Not in Arizona.

01:21:29.000 But what if we did anyway? 0.86

01:21:31.000 I mean, the desert, the earliest Christian monks, they went and they lived in the desert.

01:21:35.000 They were just chilling out there.

01:21:36.000 John the Baptist, he went and lived in the desert.

01:21:38.000 Well, I think that would be like, because where I'm at on the East Coast is like, it's cold during Lent.

01:21:45.000 So would I have to fast from heating?

01:21:50.000 I think that would be a very traditional.

01:21:53.000 Way of doing it.

01:21:55.000 I wouldn't do it for my kids, but I would do it.

01:21:58.000 I kind of want to try this now.

01:22:00.000 Turn off.

01:22:01.000 I could turn off the AC in my apartment.

01:22:06.000 This could be a fun experiment.

01:22:07.000 I turn off my AC in my apartment and I see if I die.

01:22:12.000 On live stream.

01:22:12.000 No, that is.

01:22:14.000 You have to live stream it, though.

01:22:17.000 I'm not sure I want to live stream that.

01:22:18.000 The stream just ends because his whole life.

01:22:20.000 Yeah, because Andrew would be like, hey, has anyone checked on Blake today?

01:22:24.000 He didn't show up for work.

01:22:25.000 Honestly, the scariest thing I'm thinking of is how much horrifying bacterial growth would happen if I was in a place that was 110 degrees and also reasonably humid.

01:22:37.000 Wait, well, you can still have circulation.

01:22:39.000 No one's saying you can't have circulation.

01:22:42.000 Yeah, you can still have deodorant, Blake.

01:22:45.000 And deodorant, yes.

01:22:47.000 Sorry.

01:22:48.000 Oh, my gosh.

01:22:49.000 On that note, he's got me thinking with bacteria.

01:22:51.000 Yeah.

01:22:54.000 Deodorant fat.

01:22:55.000 Take us home, Jack.

01:22:56.000 That's actually a sacrifice for everyone around Blake.

01:22:59.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:23:00.000 That would be a heck of a punishment. 0.81

01:23:03.000 A Lent sacrifice.

01:23:04.000 You guys could just keep telling me about your dreams.

01:23:06.000 You guys are all dreaming of this to happen.

01:23:07.000 The.

01:23:09.000 AC less full man, Musk Blake unleashed on the world.

01:23:12.000 Oh gosh, that sounds really weird to say.

01:23:16.000 The sacrifice?

01:23:17.000 Yeah, see, Jack's kids are on board with it now.

01:23:19.000 They're on board with it.

01:23:19.000 All right, Jack, Jack.

01:23:20.000 All right, Jack, Jack.

01:23:20.000 What do you think about this?

01:23:21.000 So, Mr. Blake, he's still here, he's half listening.

01:23:24.000 Mr. Blake says, What if we do for Lent next year?

01:23:28.000 Now, he's saying air conditioning because he lives in Arizona, it's very hot.

01:23:31.000 But for us during Lent, it's cold.

01:23:32.000 What if we did no heat in our house for all of Lent?

01:23:40.000 Do you want to try that?

01:23:42.000 Yeah.

01:23:43.000 Yeah. 0.71

01:23:43.000 You think mama would like that? 0.71

01:23:45.000 Yes.

01:23:47.000 Yeah, it'll work really well.

01:23:48.000 Yeah, that'll go.

01:23:49.000 All right, good.

01:23:49.000 You can be the one to tell her.

01:23:53.000 We're going to build our spiritual discipline.

01:23:54.000 We're going to get closer to God and the Holy Spirit.

01:23:57.000 We're going to sacrifice for spiritual discipline.

01:24:01.000 All right, Jack.

01:24:01.000 Fair enough.

01:24:02.000 Take us home, brother. 1.00

01:24:04.000 Ladies and gentlemen, go out there and commit more thought crime.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - July 04, 2026

THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 134 — Batman Goes Shopping? He-Man and the Masters of the Culture War?

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