00:01:06.000I mean, these speakers, hold your phone.
00:01:09.000Tucker Carlson, Glenn Beck, Patrick Bett David, Candace Owens, Rob Schneider, Roseanne Barr, Dennis Brager, Allie Beth Stuckey, James O'Keefe, Riley Gaines, Ben Carson, Jason Whitlock, Gad Saad, Brandon Tatum, Seth Dylan, Jack Pesobic, Benny Johnson, Yan Mi Park, Michael Seifert, James Lindsay, Steve Bannon, Eric Metaxas, Donald Trump Jr., Josh Hawley, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Matt Gates, and bigger names than even that to be announced soon.
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00:02:33.000Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, Rob Schneider, Roseanne Barr, Dennis Prager, Allie Beth Stuckey, James O'Keefe, Patrick Bett David, Glenn Beck.
00:02:41.000I mean, just drop everything and come to Phoenix.
00:03:13.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:04:28.000The U.S. Air Force is publicly warning personnel against attending a Patriot rally event in North Dakota because an alt-right member of Turning Point Action would be at the event.
00:04:37.000The warning said, quote, participation with groups such as Turning Point Action could jeopardize continued service in the U.S. military.
00:05:18.000Everybody, if all the other candidates were to die and it was too late to add anyone else to the ballot, I suppose he could become president.
00:05:27.000So Bergham's running is from North Dakota.
00:05:50.000And so I show up, I speak, and then afterwards I get blown up with all these messages from people, friends that are in the military and in the Air Force.
00:07:28.000So the U.S. military essentially said that their members were banned from hearing Tyler speak because he had committed too many thought crimes.
00:07:39.000And that if they went to hear Tyler speak, which I mean, admittedly, probably isn't the best use of anyone's time to begin with.
00:07:47.000But if they went to go to listen to you speak, that it would jeopardize their military career.
00:07:53.000The same U.S. Air Force, by the way, that just crashed a P-8 into the ocean off the coast of Hawaii.
00:08:49.000One of the guys that's one of our influencers at Turning Point, like our ambassadors, was like, Tyler's like this really nice dad from Arizona.
00:09:01.000Yeah, well, when Charlie's the when Charlie's the governor of Arizona, hopefully he'll have some swing to be able to get you off the list, buddy.
00:09:19.000So, I mean, so it wasn't that, it wasn't that crazy anything, but it is the bigger thing that's crazy is that they're tracking turning point action.
00:09:28.000And all we do is register voters and recruit precinct committeemen and precinct captains.
00:09:52.000Like, each state has 50 to 100 of these organizations.
00:09:56.000And they're literally trying to prevent and doing everything that they possibly can to make sure that we don't do this work, which tells you that we're like right over the target, I guess.
00:10:05.000And to get into the bigger thought crime issue of this, it's that this is so obviously going to be the ramification of, you know, back in 2021, just after January 6th, there was that military standdown order where they all got the speech that, you know, the military members of the military aren't allowed to join extremist groups and they're going to be tougher on this.
00:10:24.000And it took us, okay, 28 months or so for that to just turn into, oh, you can't, you can't join turning.
00:10:31.000You can't listen to someone from Turning Point Action speak.
00:10:33.000Well, actually, even before then, if you remember when they were bringing the National Guard members into, like in like the week of January 6th, when they declared that the National Guard Guardsmen were going to be coming into DC, they occupied DC for a period of months, all the way up through, I think it was March or May of 2021.
00:10:53.000I just remember the barbed wire being all around the Capitol, troops marching up and down the square, like it's a Monty Python sketch or something, but fully armed, you know, Humvees everywhere.
00:11:04.000And I remember them saying they wanted to, because the Democrats in Congress in Pelosi were saying, oh, we need to be sure that these troops are loyal.
00:11:13.000So they said, okay, we're going to start going through their Facebook pages and going through their Facebook likes.
00:11:18.000And inside the Pentagon, one of some of the things they were targeting were like the Gadsen flag, if you were a member of any pages that used that or if you had posted that.
00:12:01.000I think they thought that this is like the only big public building in Minot probably is the state fair, you know, whatever, the building that we were in.
00:12:09.000I think they maybe thought this was like the liberals thought this was like their capital riot opportunity.
00:12:15.000So they're trying to, you know, you know, if you look at the old if you look at the old Soviet or the old estimates the U.S. military did of what would get hit in a nuclear exchange with the Soviet Union, you know, Minot's got an Air Force base and it's got all the ICBMs there.
00:12:29.000So if you look at the map, you know, they lobbed a couple nukes at New York and then they dropped about 500 nuclear weapons on Minot, North Dakota, and it basically just obliterates the state.
00:12:39.000And so really they were just anticipating that you might be there.
00:12:43.000And that's that's why it had to be destroyed.
00:12:46.000So, Charlie, what does this really let's let's wrap this up because I know we have other stuff we're going to get to, but Charlie, I know you covered this on the show today, but but give us your take after you've had some time to think about this.
00:12:57.000What does it mean that, you know, Tyler Boyer and the just Turning Point Enterprise are now being treated this way by our military?
00:13:06.000And the fact that, by the way, I believe there's been some senators that have responded to this.
00:13:11.000Yeah, I mean, honestly, I'm really proud of Tyler that he's finally joining the gang as he's on the list.
00:13:51.000It's clear that the Department of Defense is declaring war on us.
00:13:54.000It probably was somebody at the high level of the Department of Defense that doesn't understand Turning Point, and they're going to pay for this.
00:16:09.000I mean, the guy is just completely lost up there.
00:16:13.000I mean, you talk about a guy, like some people at least, you know, you can give them credit because they're good at spin, they're good at running angles, they're good at tap dancing.
00:16:23.000I mean, Kirby is just an absolute idiot, and he's been an idiot since Afghanistan, since the fall of Afghanistan, and our grotesque pull out of there.
00:16:32.000And I think, Charlie, you would just be kind of running absolute, absolute rings around them.
00:16:37.000So, I guess for a good, a good AmFest warm-up, you could go and absolutely destroy these guys down at the U.S. House.
00:16:46.000But I'd also love to say that since we are live for once, just throw out if anyone is from North Dakota, let us know in the comments.
00:18:53.000So here, you guys can, if you guys want to bring it up on our screen, we can show everyone the article.
00:18:58.000So this is published in Front Page Magazine.
00:19:02.000So there's an organization, the David Horowitz Freedom Center.
00:19:05.000David Horowitz was a progressive who later moved to the right, set up the David Horowitz Freedom Center to promote conservative ideals.
00:19:13.000And they notably are one of the places that Candace got her start.
00:19:18.000She was invited to an event of theirs.
00:19:21.000I believe that is, in fact, where she met you, Charlie.
00:19:24.000And then she worked with Turning Point, became a big star, and has been around ever since.
00:19:30.000But obviously, we talked last week about her little TI with Ben Shapiro, some of the stuff she'd said on Twitter, Now X, and some people are taking it badly.
00:19:41.000And the David Horowitz Freedom Center is among them.
00:19:44.000So they published this piece, Goodbye Candace.
00:19:48.000And they suggest that Candace is complicit in bringing about, I am not making this up, a second Holocaust.
00:19:56.000I'll just read the quote because it's remarkable.
00:19:58.000The David Horowitz Freedom Center wishes to express its deep disappointment with Candace's ignorant, hateful, and morally obtuse remarks about Israel and the Jews.
00:20:11.000But of course, it's not just about the Jews.
00:20:14.000The Jews are the canaries in the mine.
00:20:16.000The West is next, and America above all.
00:20:20.000It's one thing to have been alive in the 30s and not realized where the Nazis were headed.
00:20:26.000It is quite another to be alive during a 75-year campaign by Islamic jihadis to finish the job that Hitler started and to fail to stand against their open campaign to create a second Holocaust.
00:20:53.000And obviously, I mean, I talk to Candace almost every single day, and I think really highly of her.
00:20:59.000This exposes the fault line that we saw coming.
00:21:01.000And I want Jack to riff on this, but let me kind of segue here.
00:21:05.000Because we saw this kind of fault line growing, which is the Israel issue is breaking the left, but it's simultaneously also not breaking the right, but it's not helping.
00:21:16.000And it's exposing some of these lines.
00:21:20.000And I mean, I'll let David speak for himself and the Freedom Center.
00:22:20.000I mean, he's winning and they're losing.
00:22:22.000But I think we would all agree that we thought 2023 was going to be the year where the right was divided over DeSantis v. Trump and Nikki Haley v. DeSantis.
00:22:58.000I just spoke at David's deal last year, and I think what he's done to the movement is incredible.
00:23:03.000I think what Candace is doing for the movement is incredible and super.
00:23:07.000So I'm friends with both of them, and I'll remain friends with both of them.
00:23:10.000And they both hate the left, and they're going to keep fighting the left.
00:23:12.000I do think that there is a part that kind of the straw that broke the camel's back that isn't included in this article, which is Candace's discussion with Professor Finkelstein from Princeton, who got in a huge dispute with Alan Dershowitz years ago, accusing him of plagiarism, and is one of the most hated intellectuals in pro-Israel circles.
00:23:43.000But Jack, can you riff on this for a second?
00:23:46.000You know, having stating that we're friends with people on both sides and reiterating that, and clearly, I think we can also look at this, you know, from a 35,000-foot view.
00:23:55.000We thought that the DeSantis Trump primary was going to be the bloody, glorious English Civil War revolution.
00:24:04.000Out of left field, you know, the most deadly day of Jewish killing since the Holocaust, 1,500 Jews, and the reaction that came from it is actually what is dividing the right.
00:25:09.000So it's almost a pre-Tea Party kind of grassroots activism that really I consider David to have been a mentor, someone I looked up to and still do look up to very much, but I just mean for all these years.
00:25:22.000And then, of course, going to the events, volunteering at many of the events, the restoration weekends, going back just years, over a decade, almost two decades at this point.
00:25:32.000And so everybody at the Freedom Center knows how much I love them and how much I care about their work.
00:25:36.000And I just, I think, though, that when we create these types of firing squads, these circular firing squads about cancellation, right?
00:25:45.000And canceling people because we have a disagreement over a specific issue.
00:25:51.000And it's interesting to me, I guess what I would say is what is to ask people, what is the specific policy of Candace's that she has iterated or promoted or stood for that you disagree with?
00:26:07.000Because when it comes to just, okay, tracking down Hamas, wiping them out, getting them off the map, turning Hamas into Hummus, turning him into Pico de Gaio like Suleimani, I don't really see much disagreement there.
00:26:20.000But, you know, this has been one of the huge things.
00:26:23.000And of course, we talked about this last week, but the idea that we're going to cancel Candace over this because people don't like her tone.
00:26:31.000People don't like, and that's really what it comes down to.
00:26:33.000It's tone policing and concern trolling.
00:26:35.000This idea that Candace isn't allowed to do the same thing she does to every single other issue that she looks at, whether it be Ukraine, whether it be vaccines, whether it be BLM.
00:26:58.000That's the Candace Owens that I see present herself to every single issue that she's ever gone after.
00:27:04.000And so I don't think, and obviously with great passion, because, I mean, it's Candace after all, right?
00:27:08.000So I don't think that she's really changed her stripes here in any way.
00:27:14.000It's just that, you know, it's just that this issue, and obviously coming on the heels of such a horrific attack, I think for a lot of people, it's very emotional.
00:27:22.000There's a lot of, you know, emotions are high, passions are high.
00:27:25.000But I do think that it just doesn't make sense that we're going to, you know, go around and start shooting people inside our own tent over politically.
00:27:34.000And I think it's great, by the way, and I'll just throw it out there.
00:27:37.000Said this on Twitter, but I think it's great that on the same day that we saw people calling for Candace to be canceled, a lot of conservatives that I look up to shared this article, echoed these sentiments.
00:27:48.000And I went and looked, and it's all over at the Turning Point America Fest site.
00:27:51.000Candace's name was still there, was still featured prominently.
00:27:54.000I think the top row, a little slightly higher than mine, but that's probably because her name is just a little shorter.
00:28:00.000And I thought it was great the Turning Point was sticking with her for this event the same way that they stuck with her throughout all the years.
00:28:16.000I mean, we're on Team Candace, and I'm also, you know, I'm on Team Freedom Center too, but you know, I got a text message from some lunatic.
00:28:24.000Charlie, why do you have her still speak at an Amfest?
00:30:27.000And so he's saying that Candace is quickly on her way to just saying the Holocaust didn't happen, which again is we're jumping to these very wild things.
00:30:37.000Was he the guy who said that like NATO was going to be like the world police and that they were going to be the sort of enforcing the new world government?
00:31:30.000Tucker Carlson interviewing Glenn Greenwald, which he already has.
00:31:34.000If anyone doesn't know, Len Greenwald is also a critic of Israel and sympathetic towards Palestine.
00:31:40.000And again, much like Finkelstein, he's Jewish.
00:31:43.000Like those people, these people exist.
00:31:45.000You know, Jews are on the entire ideological spectrum, even on Israel-Palestine.
00:31:52.000And it's just, I feel like what's going on here is just people have really, it's unsettling that the last month, two months, people just have sort of lost their minds over this issue.
00:32:05.000They're kind of willfully psyching themselves up into these extremely wild takes.
00:32:12.000And I worry that, you know, it's damaging the movement.
00:32:15.000And it's a lot like the primaries where people get very attached to either, you know, they're still for Trump or they decide they're in the tank for DeSantis or they're the vec mania or they're, you know, the five people who supported Mike Pence or the, you know, one person who supported Doug Bergham, assuming anyone in his, did anyone in his family support him?
00:32:36.000But, you know, people get all amped up about the primary and then they decide like, oh, the people very close to them ideologically are actually the biggest enemies and they need to be taken out.
00:32:46.000And we're doing this over now this Israel-Palestine conflict, this Gaza war, which one might be over soon.
00:32:53.000They're apparently negotiating a ceasefire right now.
00:32:59.000And overall, like, you know, yes, the terrorist attack is very bad, but it is already in the past at this point.
00:33:05.000So it is something that is not ongoing.
00:33:07.000It is something that is in a foreign country.
00:33:09.000And we're using this as a reason to justify, like, oh, Candace Owens has to be expelled from the movement because she is leading us towards the second Holocaust.
00:33:18.000And I would urge everyone to take a deep breath and, you know, realize that sounds insane.
00:33:26.000Does that sound insane to anyone else?
00:33:32.000Yeah, I mean, that's language I wouldn't use.
00:33:57.000Well, Charlie, I think that's exactly right because, you know, I'll, you know, I'll just say that I had, I don't want to bring up private stuff, but I had dinner earlier this week with a guy who's been involved with one of the primaries that's, you know, not a, on the Trump campaign.
00:34:20.000We just went on with our lives and went on with our friendship in the real world because we're not going to go and burn down relationships over things like that.
00:34:31.000I actually talk to people on all the primary campaigns all the time.
00:34:34.000I've got friends with them, the ones that have like real campaigns, not like the fake ones, like Chris Christie and others, because I've got friends that are supportive of all different parts of the right.
00:34:45.000And sure, there's been a lot of online stuff, a lot of online back and forth.
00:34:49.000But at the end of the day, when people are serious, you just don't do that.
00:34:54.000When it comes to this, though, I found people very willing to burn down relationships that they've had for a long time over.
00:35:04.000And when it comes down to it, Charlie, that's what really gets me is because can anybody point to something that Candace said that is so horrific, so disastrous that she should be completely excised and excommunicated from the movement, that we should cut all off.
00:35:24.000Okay, in the Church of Scientology, they have this concept of declaring someone a suppressive person.
00:35:30.000Blake, I'm betting that you've heard of this one.
00:35:34.000A little bit, a little bit, but you should probably elaborate on before I do.
00:35:39.000When someone is declared a suppressive person, that means they possess a distinct set of characteristics and mental attitudes that cause them to suppress the other people in their vicinity.
00:35:53.000It's calculated to be disastrous against them.
00:35:55.000And so when someone is labeled this, it's like an official label that's given by the Church of Scientology to, say, a family member or a friend.
00:36:04.000That means that every single other member of the church, even if they're your own family, even if they're your immediate family, must cut off contact with you both publicly and privately.
00:36:20.000Leah Raimini, she does the, you know, she left Scientology.
00:36:24.000So she would be declared a suppressive person.
00:36:26.000None of the people that she knew in Scientology that are still involved with it are declared are able to even communicate with her anymore, including immediate family.
00:36:34.000This is what they're trying to do to Candace.
00:36:36.000And I haven't seen a single thing she said that's been racist, that's been xenophobic, that's been, you know, evil.
00:36:44.000That's been, you could say there's stuff that you disagree with.
00:37:09.000Sorry, I was just going to say, Charlie, you're 100% right.
00:37:12.000This is like the number one problem in the conservative movement in general and the Republican Party.
00:37:16.000It's like, guys, before you start going on like Fox and like railing against people, it's like, why don't you pick up the phone?
00:37:23.000Like, I totally, I totally appreciate when like things get too far and like you've exhausted all avenues and whatever.
00:37:30.000And things have to be said because the movement deserves it.
00:37:34.000But like, it's like, dude, like you don't need to get in front of crowds of people and like donors and other people and like, you know, hit your own team, especially if you employ the person.
00:37:47.000Like, I don't, I will never understand this about this situation.
00:37:52.000It's one thing to have disagreements within the movement, within the party, with women, whatever.
00:37:57.000But how do you like have this problem in your own organization?
00:38:12.000So come to AmericaFest, everybody, amfest.com, where Candace Owens will be there and Dennis Prager will be there and Tucker Carlson and Patrick Bett David.
00:38:25.000One day I'll be able to tell you the difficulties we had around this particular event and some of the restrictions for the very careful observer.
00:38:35.000You'll notice that there's a certain type of speaker that isn't there that was there in years past, but I'm not going to say what.
00:38:40.000But the ability of our team to capture what I think is the best lineup we've ever had at a Turning Point Action Turning Point USA event.
00:38:49.000Vivek Ramaswamy, Steve Bennett, Donald Trump Jr., Kimberly Guilfoyle, Josh Hawley, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Matt Gates, Mike Lindell, Corey Mills, and Alina Haba with Turning Point Action.
00:38:58.000Tyler is the maestro conductor of that.
00:39:02.000That will be the Sunday program and more to be announced.
00:39:05.000On Turning Point USA, which is bookending the action deal, is Tucker Carlson, Patrick Bett David, which he doesn't do a lot of events, everybody.
00:39:14.000Patrick Bette David, if there is a stock to buy, I'll tell you what, that guy's stock is ascendant, isn't it, Jack?
00:39:20.000That guy is getting clipped more than almost anybody I've seen in a long time.
00:40:20.000Candace Owens, Glenn Beck, Rob Schneider, Roseanne Barr, Dennis Prager, Alley Bethsucki, James O'Keefe, Riley Gaines, Ben Carson, Jason Whitlock.
00:40:27.000I'll get to the other one in a second.
00:40:29.000Brandon Tatum, Seth Dillon, Benny Johnson, Yan Mee Park, Michael Seifert, James Lindsay, John Amanchuku, John Benzinger, Pastor Rob McCoy, Lean Munsell, Eric Metaxas, and then Jack Psobic and Gad Saad will be wrestling in mud.
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00:42:34.000So we're not going to say anything more about that.
00:42:35.000Instead, we're going to look ahead to the next historical movie that will disappoint us.
00:42:40.000And that is they have announced that at Netflix, they're going to be making a movie about the famous Carthaginian general Hannibal, Dane of the Roman Republic.
00:42:50.000And it's going to star Denzel Washington.
00:42:52.000It's been a project that's been in development hell, I think, for about 20 years now.
00:42:57.000So the actual General Hannibal was about 30 when he took on Rome.
00:43:01.000Denzel Washington is like twice that more, actually.
00:43:05.000But he's still going to play Hannibal.
00:43:12.000But there's an interesting thing about this, which is, well, Denzel Washington is black, of course.
00:43:18.000And so they're going to be portraying Hannibal as African.
00:43:22.000And so this is Carthage is in modern Tunisia.
00:43:27.000Is in Africa, but the Carthaginians themselves were actually, they probably would have looked, kind of would have looked like Israelis to us or Middle Easterners.
00:44:30.000Some researchers at the Museum of London dug up some skeletons from a medieval grave and they started measuring the skulls exactly like you would do in like 1800s, you know, kind of what we would call like racist pseudoscience today, where they just measure skulls and kind of derive racial traits from this.
00:44:51.000You're not supposed to do that except if you're doing it to say that white people are bad, which is what they were doing here.
00:44:56.000So they measured these skulls of people who died in the Black Death in about 1350.
00:45:03.000And they said, based on these skull measurements, we think that these skeletons are of black people.
00:45:12.000And then they said, black people were proportionally more likely to have died in this cemetery that is for plague victims.
00:45:21.000And so we believe that black people were more likely to die in 1300s London than white people from the Black Death, the bubonic plague, because of systemic racism in 1300s England.
00:45:36.000Now, a few contextual things here before we dig into it.
00:45:40.000One, in 1350, the Portuguese hadn't even gotten past the Sahara yet, so we did not have the ability to sail to Central Africa where sub-Saharan Africans live.
00:45:53.000There are really no sources on Africans being in London at this time.
00:45:57.000I'm sure one might have popped up as a novelty, but they seem to be arguing that London was about 8 to 10% black like it is today.
00:46:05.000And then I guess they just all disappeared.
00:46:32.000It seems like we're going to, we have this trend of taking historical figures and making them black, which we don't ever really do.
00:46:39.000I mean, we certainly don't ever allow that today in the opposite direction.
00:46:43.000I think if you made a biopic where Frederick Douglass was paid by Keanu Reeves or something, people would get pretty angry about it.
00:46:51.000And also, I just don't think you'd have people going around measuring skulls in any context other than arguing that medieval London was full of racism.
00:47:01.000Well, so this is the thing for me: it's not even the, you know, the Denzel, Hannibal, et cetera, piece, because this is a huge meme, of course, right, for Netflix, that every time Netflix does a biopic, they always have to race swap it to do this sort of like woke casting.
00:47:17.000And so you have to pay the woke total to get on Netflix.
00:47:20.000And so the original setup for this was that you had to include like some LGBT content, even if it was shoehorned in, even it had nothing to do with the plot whatsoever.
00:47:30.000There had to be some sort of woke toll that was paid on any Netflix.
00:47:35.000And then, of course, the casting of it has really turned into this meme.
00:47:40.000And so it seems as though they're playing into that very same trope that Netflix, they're just leaning into the meme, basically, that Netflix wants to go ahead and make this for everybody.
00:47:50.000But I guess what's more interesting to me isn't so much the fact that they're doing it, but the fact that even in the UK, especially when it comes to VVC, and especially when it comes to their dramas, their history, their news,
00:48:04.000there's like this article that came out today about the Black Plague, that it seems like they're going through this huge push where they're trying to, you know, revamp their history to make it quote unquote equitable or more in line with what today's demographics are.
00:48:22.000And you didn't see that for the longest time in any historical perspective.
00:48:28.000I would argue, though, that one of the first places that we saw that was the musical Hamilton, where they went in and race swapped all of the founding fathers and decided to make them, you know, not British.
00:48:39.000And then Emmanuel Miranda's, what, like, Puerto Rican and all these different things.
00:48:44.000And I remember getting into discussions with people at the time.
00:48:48.000I think it was what, 2014, 2015 when that came out.
00:48:51.000And I was like, okay, why are we doing this?
00:48:56.000And they said, well, that makes it more equitable for the people who live there now to be able to feel that they've got a strong tie into the past of America.
00:49:09.000We're going to try to get the song up here where they're teaching kids that black people have always been around in England when it's like, that's just, you're just lying.
00:49:18.000You're just absolutely lying to people and saying that this has always been this way.
00:49:29.000Blake, you were noticing too, I think we were chatting before the show about this show Bridgerton or something, how the books aren't even like that, but they changed it for the show as well.
00:50:10.000And but when they made the adaptation, what they did is they made an extremely high share of the characters black, like much higher than it actually even is in England today.
00:50:24.000And this required an entire alternate history setup where the idea was there was a member of the British royal family in the 1700s, I want to say, who was slightly darker than usual.
00:50:39.000And it was because she had some blood from, I think, Iberia, like Portugal.
00:50:43.000And so they turned this from, oh, she was slightly dusky because she had some Iberian blood to we're going to imagine that she was black somehow, even though she was a princess from Germany and no one else comments and none of the portraits portray her this way.
00:50:56.000But we're going to imagine that she was black and then her marrying into the British royal family caused a rejection of racism.
00:51:04.000And so they got rid of slavery earlier.
00:51:08.000And then they had black people incorporate into the British upper class.
00:51:13.000And so that is why now in our adaptation of Bridgerton, there are black people everywhere in what is otherwise a period romance drama set in 1815.
00:57:49.000Okay, so before we get to that, but you know, obviously, you don't need everything to be 100%, you know, race matched in a fictional movie.
00:57:59.000They did this movie, Memoirs of a Geisha, like 15 years ago, and it had a Chinese woman playing the Japanese geisha, and some people freaked out about this.
00:58:11.000But what annoys people is just when they feel like their art is designed as political propaganda at them.
00:58:18.000And I think that's what a lot of people will worry about, you know, with this, with this Hannibal movie.
00:58:23.000It's obviously what's going on with something like Bridgerton, that we're going to make this thing totally not what matched reality, and you're going to accept it.
00:58:31.000I'm so glad that you brought the Bridgerton thing.
00:58:33.000I didn't even know this was coming today because I walked in on my wife watching Bridgerton with this, with this going on.
00:58:40.000And I was like, what are you watching?
01:02:54.000Why are you going to crack out for Thanksgiving?
01:02:56.000Because it's way cooler than, you know, no offense.
01:02:59.000Love my family, but I also like going to extremely distant countries to look at their extremely old things because I was born in South Dakota, which has no history whatsoever.
01:03:11.000The oldest settlement in South Dakota is like 150 years old.
01:03:15.000There are like toilets in Poland that are older than that.