The Charlie Kirk Show - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 24 — DINKS and SINKS? Taylor Swift: Person of the Year?

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00:00:02.000 Taylor Swift person of the year.

00:00:05.000 Is it an op?

00:00:06.000 I'm sick of seeing Travis Kelsey.

00:00:07.000 This guy in every commercial in the history of football, it's unbelievable.

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00:01:29.000 Hello, everybody.

00:01:30.000 Happy Thought Crime Thursday.

00:01:32.000 Jack Pesobic is with us.

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00:01:47.000 Blake is back from Auschwitz.

00:01:48.000 Blake well.

00:01:49.000 Back from Australia.

00:01:50.000 I got stuck in Auschwitz.

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00:01:56.000 And so I was abandoned at Birkenau.

00:01:59.000 And then I also saw, I saw Napoleon in a movie theater built by Joseph Stalin. 0.85

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00:02:18.000 All right.

00:02:18.000 So, first, what is the first story?

00:02:21.000 First story, person of the year, Taylor Swift.

00:02:24.000 They had a lot of options they could have picked, but time went with the Swifties. 0.96

00:02:28.000 They are the most important.

00:02:30.000 Thank God.

00:02:30.000 Wow.

00:02:31.000 She pulled it off, boys. 1.00

00:02:32.000 Pulled it off. 1.00

00:02:33.000 She pulled it off. 1.00

00:02:34.000 Pulled it off. 0.98

00:02:34.000 Gosh. 0.98

00:02:36.000 Just love her so, so much.

00:02:38.000 I mean, just think of all her accomplishments.

00:02:40.000 You know, her, you know, and then there was the time that she, you know, with the children that she doesn't have.

00:02:50.000 And the what has she done?

00:02:54.000 What has she accomplished? 0.61

00:02:55.000 Actually, guys, can anyone name like a she had a really she is the most famous celebrity in the world.

00:03:02.000 That appears to be what the justification for it was.

00:03:05.000 It was just well, who determines that?

00:03:10.000 So here's the opening line from the time person of the year article.

00:03:13.000 If you guys want to bring it up on screen, if you can, we can show it here.

00:03:16.000 But Taylor Swift is telling me a story.

00:03:19.000 And when Taylor Swift tells you a story, you listen because you know it's going to be good.

00:03:25.000 Not only because she's had an extraordinary life, but because she's an extraordinary storyteller.

00:03:32.000 So, okay.

00:03:33.000 All right.

00:03:34.000 So name some of her best stories.

00:03:37.000 Can anyone name some of the story story?

00:03:37.000 There's that story.

00:03:38.000 Romeo and Julia.

00:03:40.000 I don't remember.

00:03:40.000 Love story, I guess is the name of the song.

00:03:42.000 And she's in love with the guy, but their parents don't like the guy.

00:03:46.000 Is it her whole genre?

00:03:48.000 That's Shakespeare's childhood son.

00:03:49.000 I'm sorry.

00:03:50.000 That's not her.

00:03:51.000 Isn't that her whole thing, which is rallying up young women to sing about their misery? 1.00

00:03:55.000 You know, she sings about happy stuff too. 1.00

00:03:57.000 And what she might do.

00:03:59.000 It's fascinating how she goes from that and still gives off virgin vibes the whole time. 0.99

00:04:04.000 Like, she pulls from every category. 0.63

00:04:07.000 That's not the vibe I get.

00:04:08.000 Yeah, but that's how parents know.

00:04:10.000 Parents think that she's like the virgin Mary.

00:04:12.000 She's totally agree with Tyler.

00:04:13.000 I think Tyler is like the Virgin Mary.

00:04:15.000 100%.

00:04:15.000 Tyler's totally right.

00:04:17.000 That if you talk to your normie suburban housewife, they think she's like Mother Mary.

00:04:22.000 And I want my daughter to be like her totally. 0.97

00:04:24.000 And she has a body count that needs an exponent.

00:04:28.000 Well, and here's the other part that you lay on top of it. 1.00

00:04:30.000 She's not even that attractive. 0.98

00:04:32.000 So like the entire paradox of this whole thing that she's made parents believe that she's like a virgin. 0.90

00:04:38.000 She has, you know, this well-accomplished career of not ever doing anything like that, like you should do in order to be a successful human being on planet Earth.

00:04:47.000 While at the same time, being really subpart average, like if you didn't know who Taylor Swift was, you saw her in a shopping mall, she would be a four, maybe a five, like on like her best day, like as a normal person.

00:04:59.000 She's not a four. 0.93

00:05:00.000 No, I'm not.

00:05:01.000 She's not a five. 0.51

00:05:02.000 She's four on her best day.

00:05:05.000 Come on, dude. 0.51

00:05:06.000 That's not like tens of millions of dollars put into a jack.

00:05:09.000 Like it's not, have you seen those memes?

00:05:11.000 You're not, you're not poor.

00:05:13.000 She has spent all that money. 0.95

00:05:14.000 If she was normal, Taylor Swift. 0.74

00:05:16.000 I'm not saying she's a 10.

00:05:18.000 I'm not saying she's a 10.

00:05:19.000 No, I'm not saying she's any.

00:05:20.000 Before the millions of dollars, she is a five. 0.96

00:05:24.000 Yes. 1.00

00:05:24.000 A four. 1.00

00:05:25.000 A four.

00:05:27.000 She's like seven. 0.99

00:05:28.000 If you made a bell curve, probably $50 million. 1.00

00:05:31.000 If you made a bell curve of the women in America in which an average person is five, you would put Taylor Swift to the left of that.

00:05:39.000 Have you been to an amusement park in the last decade? 1.00

00:05:42.000 Have you been to a movie theater?

00:05:43.000 Have you been to a mall?

00:05:44.000 Did you see her mouth?

00:05:45.000 Have you been to an airport? 0.91

00:05:46.000 She got money?

00:05:47.000 Have you been in seriousness?

00:05:51.000 Can I say something about that?

00:05:55.000 Have you seen the Kardashian Cool Formula?

00:05:57.000 Here's the real here's the real story.

00:05:58.000 Here's the real story, though. 1.00

00:05:59.000 The reason she can give off that vibe is she doesn't have a septum piercing. 1.00

00:06:04.000 I don't think she has, does she have any tattoos?

00:06:06.000 If they are, I don't know them off the top of my head.

00:06:08.000 Not that we know of.

00:06:09.000 Yeah, so no like prominent ones. 0.97

00:06:11.000 And like that goes a long way because now she doesn't have a nose piercing. 1.00

00:06:15.000 Like she doesn't do all these things that an extremely large share of women do. 0.97

00:06:19.000 And I don't know why they do it because it's very off-putting, but it's very common now.

00:06:25.000 And so yeah, you come off very she does have one very large number of things.

00:06:31.000 Parents think she's the Virgin Mary because she's like the only sheep.

00:06:35.000 She looks wholesome.

00:06:38.000 She really does.

00:06:39.000 And so, Jack, sorry, you're remote.

00:06:42.000 So sometimes we talk over you.

00:06:45.000 Jack, the floor is yours.

00:06:46.000 Oh, yeah.

00:06:47.000 No, I was just going to say that, you know, we talked about this a couple of weeks ago, but, you know, Travis Kelsey is just really the next addition to the Taylor Swift body count gallery.

00:06:57.000 The museum will be opened at the end of her career.

00:07:00.000 You know, when you really think about it, Charlie, I actually agree with you in terms of that saying that whatever the machine makers, the factory mavens there in the entertainment industrial complex who have been working on the career of Taylor Swift, it's like it's like first it was Britney Spears and then that got screwed up.

00:07:23.000 So they had to they had to shelve that and move to the next one.

00:07:24.000 Then Hillary Duffs as they tried.

00:07:26.000 Then she kind of like faded into the shadows.

00:07:28.000 Then there was Miley Cyrus.

00:07:29.000 Miley Cyrus, I think everyone understands, was a completely failed experiment.

00:07:33.000 But with Taylor Swift, with Taylor Swift, they finally got it right.

00:07:38.000 She didn't go off the deep end.

00:07:40.000 They were like, okay, don't put her in the Disney machine. 0.96

00:07:42.000 Don't put her in the Disney box.

00:07:44.000 Something goes very, very wrong with girls when you put them in the Disney box as young girls. 1.00

00:07:50.000 We later found out with many.

00:07:52.000 Ashley Simpson, by the way, is a huge example of that.

00:07:55.000 Ariana Grande has some names that she should probably name Dan Schneider, his feet fetish, and many others.

00:08:01.000 But with Taylor Swift, right, she was able to kind of avoid all of those normal pitfalls that seem to encumber many, you know, young Starlet, I guess the name would be, young Starlets as they're on their way up.

00:08:15.000 I mean, I think she tried acting once or twice, but didn't really take off.

00:08:19.000 And we have that, I don't know if we have that clip, but there is that clip speaking of her acting of when she you guys remember this thing when she went off on Marsha Blackburn, I guess, in this documentary, quasi-documentary, talking about how, oh, Marsha Blackburn doesn't have Tennessee Christian values, which, you know, by the way, Taylor Swift, you're from Redding, Pennsylvania.

00:08:44.000 You're from like 30 minutes away from me in the Northeast.

00:08:46.000 You're not from Tennessee.

00:08:48.000 You're not from the South. 0.74

00:08:50.000 I know.

00:08:50.000 Like, you're not.

00:08:52.000 You're not from that.

00:08:52.000 She's actually from Why I'm Missing.

00:08:54.000 She's just next to Redding.

00:08:56.000 Do we have that?

00:08:56.000 Do it's cut.

00:08:57.000 So, so anyway, all right.

00:08:58.000 Before we get into the cut, before we get into the cut, I think we should explain why it is that, you know, that why this matters and for a number of reasons.

00:09:06.000 But my theory is that they are going to be turning Taylor Swift into a ballot harvesting operation and turnout mechanism for the Democrats in 2024.

00:09:19.000 Whoever their nominee is going to be, looks like it's going to be Biden at this point.

00:09:22.000 But yeah, just like Oprah was in the past, like they tried to do with vote or die and Madonna, even before that, right?

00:09:28.000 This is going to be a whole new level of operation because the Swifties represent just a new type of fandom that we've never seen before.

00:09:39.000 And with the power of social media, they are going to be turned on as like an abortion army to come forward in the 2024 election. 0.79

00:09:47.000 I guarantee it.

00:09:48.000 So I have a couple.

00:09:48.000 Okay.

00:09:49.000 So let's just kind of show 72.

00:09:51.000 This is a very, I don't understand this.

00:09:53.000 Here's Taylor Swift, who, you know, she was endorsing Joe Biden, but she did it with these like disgusting Walmart cookies, right?

00:10:00.000 Back in 2020, as if, I mean, and by the way, is this some sort of thing like I should be in the kitchen making cookies for you?

00:10:07.000 Is that what you're trying to tell us, Taylor Swift?

00:10:09.000 Is that like your rightful place is to make cookies or something?

00:10:12.000 It's a very weird thing.

00:10:13.000 She didn't make those.

00:10:14.000 I think it's reading a bit much into that.

00:10:16.000 Who does that?

00:10:17.000 It's very strange. 0.99

00:10:18.000 If you're going to put like complicated frosting designs on cookies, they always end up looking like kind of crap. 0.96

00:10:23.000 Am I supposed to believe she actually made those? 0.98

00:10:24.000 I don't think so.

00:10:27.000 I think this whole thing is an op.

00:10:28.000 I don't think a lot of people are asking that question. 1.00

00:10:30.000 She definitely wanted to end them.

00:10:32.000 She wanted to endorse Joe Biden, so she got Joe Biden cookies.

00:10:35.000 I don't think it matters whether she made them.

00:10:36.000 It's not cute.

00:10:37.000 It's not interesting.

00:10:38.000 I don't find anything she does to be interesting.

00:10:40.000 But that's the whole society.

00:10:41.000 She's an op.

00:10:42.000 She's a created op of the mockingbird.

00:10:44.000 What I would say is we talk about her all the time.

00:10:47.000 So we clearly do find her interesting in some ways.

00:10:49.000 No, no, it's forced on us.

00:10:50.000 That's not true.

00:10:51.000 I would never talk about her if this wasn't force-fed by the Masters of the Universe, Time Magazine.

00:10:56.000 And ForceFed is Travis Kelsey.

00:10:59.000 Oh, yeah.

00:11:00.000 Hold on.

00:11:01.000 You cannot watch an NFL game.

00:11:02.000 Travis Kelsey for State Farm.

00:11:04.000 Travis Kelsey for Pfizer.

00:11:05.000 Travis Kelsey for some random car insurance thing.

00:11:07.000 Travis, it's like, what company doesn't have Travis Kelsey?

00:11:10.000 I mean, I'm trying to watch a dang football game, and it's Travis Kelsey for Uber Eats and Travis Kelsey for Subway.

00:11:16.000 And oh, by the way, Travis Kelsey from Ma'ato, and Travis Kelsey for.

00:11:19.000 It's like, is there?

00:11:20.000 I'm telling you, that doesn't happen by mistake.

00:11:23.000 I'm supposed to believe that all this prescription is.

00:11:25.000 You're getting this backwards.

00:11:27.000 It's that Taylor Swift is fanatically, insanely popular. 0.98

00:11:30.000 So she will be shoved into things.

00:11:31.000 It is not that you're the first thing that Taylor Swift. 0.93

00:11:35.000 So Taylor Swift needs Travis Kelsey.

00:11:37.000 No, no, no.

00:11:38.000 The whole thing is a fake op.

00:11:40.000 I don't know.

00:11:41.000 Whether the relationship is fake or not.

00:11:44.000 What I'm saying is, I don't think Taylor Swift, they like found Taylor Swift in a lab and said, we're going to make Taylor Swift popular so that she can then push Democrats.

00:11:53.000 It's the same way that Dua Lipa girl.

00:11:55.000 And it's the same thing with Jennifer Lawrence.

00:11:55.000 I am guys.

00:11:58.000 And they find people that they can use for cultural type influence.

00:12:02.000 And Taylor Swift is perfect. 0.91

00:12:04.000 She's a liberal, but she doesn't overplay it in recent years. 0.88

00:12:06.000 She sells. 0.99

00:12:07.000 She's the most popular.

00:12:08.000 No one doubts that she's popular. 0.83

00:12:09.000 Of course, of course, she's popular. 1.00

00:12:11.000 And she also, she's that demo that they want to dominate, which is upper-middle-class white girls, suburban America. 1.00

00:12:17.000 That's their pathway to world domination. 1.00

00:12:19.000 And she controls that demo. 0.90

00:12:21.000 Of course, we acknowledge she controls it.

00:12:22.000 I mean, we don't, you know, live on Neptune, but this whole Travis Kelsey thing is so staged, right, Jack?

00:12:27.000 I mean, you watch an NFL football game.

00:12:28.000 I remember Erica walks in, she says, What commercial is he not in?

00:12:31.000 I'm telling you, he's on like Experian.

00:12:33.000 He does the vaccine thing.

00:12:34.000 I could you not?

00:12:35.000 I saw one NFL game and it was three in a row.

00:12:38.000 I got the list here.

00:12:39.000 You got the list.

00:12:40.000 I got the list.

00:12:40.000 This guy's not that good.

00:12:42.000 You're right.

00:12:42.000 He's good.

00:12:43.000 He's not that good.

00:12:43.000 You're not really good.

00:12:44.000 He's not that good.

00:12:45.000 You're not pretty good.

00:12:46.000 He's not that good.

00:12:47.000 He's not that good.

00:12:47.000 He is probably the second most notable player on top team that has won like two Super Bowls.

00:12:52.000 Okay, first of all, without Patrick Mahomes, he would be a very average tight end.

00:12:57.000 Very average.

00:12:58.000 But he has Patrick Mahomes.

00:13:00.000 He's not Gronkowski.

00:13:01.000 He's maybe the Gronk was in a million ads too.

00:13:04.000 And he had Tom Brady.

00:13:04.000 Hold on.

00:13:05.000 First of all, Gronk is different.

00:13:07.000 He's objectively funnier and more interesting than Travis.

00:13:12.000 Travis Kelsey's a goon.

00:13:13.000 Okay, how many commercials do you have of him?

00:13:15.000 You ready for the list?

00:13:16.000 And by the way, George Kittle is way better when he plays for the Fortnite.

00:13:19.000 Accelerator, Active Energy, Lowe's, Campbell's Chunky Sea.

00:13:22.000 This is not normal.

00:13:23.000 Bud Light, of course.

00:13:25.000 Nike, of course.

00:13:26.000 Pfizer, of course.

00:13:28.000 Direct TV, Tide, Old Spice, T-Mobile, Sleep Number, Hy-V, Dick Sporting Goods.

00:13:35.000 Okay, counterpoint.

00:13:36.000 Travis Kelsey has had a way.

00:13:38.000 Travis Kelsey has had seven straight thousand-yard receiving seasons.

00:13:43.000 Okay, I'm not saying he's bad.

00:13:44.000 Does it warrant this kind of cultural magnetism?

00:13:47.000 And by the way, oh, it does.

00:13:49.000 Okay, so you go from just come on.

00:13:51.000 Like, he's an he is a he is, like I said, he is the second most high-profile player that's on.

00:13:57.000 He created it.

00:13:58.000 Okay, you're trying to tell me that Travis Kelsey is more high-profile than Aaron Rodgers.

00:14:03.000 Probably not, but Aaron Rodgers is also in a million ads.

00:14:05.000 Hold on a second.

00:14:06.000 He also signed with CAA, which is like the Death Star.

00:14:09.000 Also, Aaron Rodgers and more ads, except Aaron Rodgers is weird.

00:14:13.000 And hold on, Aaron Rodgers goes into the woods to do it.

00:14:17.000 I can name five NFL players with more name ID than Travis Kelsey, but they created it.

00:14:22.000 Travis Kelsey, who's what I'm getting at.

00:14:23.000 And I know Blake hates it when we go this deep because it's not a conspiracy.

00:14:26.000 It's totally a conspiracy.

00:14:27.000 Travis Kelsey is an op.

00:14:29.000 He's an average football player who happens to have one of the greatest NFL quarterbacks ever.

00:14:33.000 And then you have Taylor Swift, who's also an op who sells out audits.

00:14:35.000 And I'm supposed to believe that, oh, a love story.

00:14:38.000 I just happened to stumble into Mr. Pfizer, Mr. State Farm, just in time for the 2024 election.

00:14:43.000 I don't believe it.

00:14:43.000 Mr. Pfizer.

00:14:44.000 Just in time.

00:14:45.000 The Pfizer thing is up for the 2024 election.

00:14:47.000 It's 100%.

00:14:48.000 Let's bring it.

00:14:48.000 He's 100% of 2024 get out the vote operation to go through middle America to press the magazine, try to win single women all under a Pfizer's pharmaceutical regime so that we live in a dystopian hellscape job.

00:14:58.000 All right.

00:14:59.000 All right, Charlie.

00:15:00.000 Yeah, but here's the point, though.

00:15:03.000 Maybe because he did the Pfizer commercial, that's what actually opened up him to dating Taylor Swift.

00:15:10.000 So Taylor Swift is like, I'm only going to date people who show up in Pfizer commercials.

00:15:14.000 But Travis.

00:15:15.000 So he was limited to.

00:15:16.000 She was limited to. 0.99

00:15:17.000 First of all, Travis has been accused of being a man whore by a lot of other women. 0.99

00:15:21.000 So that would make him more attractive to other women. 0.99

00:15:25.000 Now we're talking.

00:15:25.000 Yeah, but he's more attractive to Taylor.

00:15:27.000 He's vaccinated.

00:15:28.000 A lot of women.

00:15:29.000 I know.

00:15:30.000 He's quadruple vaccinated.

00:15:32.000 Yeah, so not a pure blood.

00:15:33.000 Jack, do you agree?

00:15:34.000 This is all an op.

00:15:35.000 It's so fake.

00:15:37.000 It's so fake.

00:15:38.000 This is the fakest relationship since Harry and Megan.

00:15:42.000 It's like you see the two of them together.

00:15:44.000 There's no chemistry.

00:15:45.000 There's zero.

00:15:46.000 They actually have negative chemistry, negative Riz. 1.00

00:15:49.000 When you see the two of them together, you're like, what is this?

00:15:52.000 I've seen faker relationships, you know, on like one of those, one of those, you know, broadcast dating shows than I've ever seen on one of this. 0.91

00:16:01.000 This is ridiculous. 0.98

00:16:03.000 This is so horrible. 0.99

00:16:05.000 And what I'm telling you, it's like, oh, we're going to be two celebrities.

00:16:08.000 We're just going to rule the roost together.

00:16:10.000 It's like, we need to, they want to be the white Beyoncé and Jay-Z.

00:16:15.000 But at least Beyonce and Jay-Z actually do have chemistry together.

00:16:19.000 When you see them together, you can tell they're in like a real relationship.

00:16:22.000 These look like two people that are on benzodiazepam the entire time.

00:16:26.000 And like they have, they have that like they might bride smile that you see, like, so good to see you.

00:16:33.000 They do that weird, like, they do that weird thing, right?

00:16:36.000 I don't quite have a name for it yet, but it's very millennial and it's sort of an up.

00:16:41.000 It's kind of like up talk, but it's like when you can tell that they're lying, even though, because it's under speech, so they're speaking under their breath.

00:16:48.000 So good to see you.

00:16:50.000 It's really great that you came.

00:16:53.000 I'm glad that you're here.

00:16:56.000 It's, it's, it's this really weird intonation, and it drives me completely nuts when people do it, separately from vocal fry, which also drives me nuts, but for different reasons.

00:17:06.000 All right, let Blake.

00:17:07.000 I'm just wondering how much of this are you?

00:17:09.000 Like, I haven't actually seen much footage of Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift together because I don't follow this.

00:17:18.000 I'm supposed to be.

00:17:18.000 I'm mystified by the world.

00:17:21.000 I'm just watching all these ladies.

00:17:22.000 Blake just changed out under a bench.

00:17:24.000 I'm supposed to believe he just organically out of love flew down to South America to be with Taylor Swift.

00:17:30.000 No, no, no.

00:17:31.000 It's an op. 0.96

00:17:32.000 Somebody called her out essentially.

00:17:35.000 The whole thing is very strange.

00:17:36.000 He goes to the concert.

00:17:37.000 He wishes that.

00:17:38.000 I'm telling you, somebody at CAA, somebody at the Creative Arts Agency said, oh, I think I see it.

00:17:43.000 Middle America MAGA country that likes their football, their beer, and they have this, you know, childless dink. 0.89

00:17:50.000 And we're going to put them together and sync, sorry, creative arts agency, which, by the way, is like the Death Star.

00:17:56.000 And we're going to combine it.

00:17:58.000 And it's going to be good for business, good for Pfizer, good for all these things.

00:18:01.000 I want to play this.

00:18:02.000 Here is Taylor Swift very upset about.

00:18:05.000 Oh, by the way, Eva Vladimir Dingerbrook is going after Taylor Swift. 0.94

00:18:09.000 Good for her. 1.00

00:18:11.000 Play Cut 87.

00:18:13.000 Comes out against Trump.

00:18:15.000 I don't care if they write that.

00:18:17.000 I'm sad that I didn't two years ago, but I can't change that.

00:18:22.000 I'm saying right now that this is something that I know is right.

00:18:25.000 And you guys, I need to be on the right side of history.

00:18:28.000 And if he doesn't win, then at least I at least I tried.

00:18:31.000 Yo, here's the problem.

00:18:32.000 I just want to read you what I wrote, and I'm going to try to start.

00:18:34.000 I just really want you to know that this is important to me.

00:18:37.000 This is something that I have an issue.

00:18:39.000 Have you experienced it?

00:18:40.000 Yes, I've read the entire thing.

00:18:42.000 And the bottom line right now, I'm terrified.

00:18:44.000 I'm the guy that went out and bought armored cars.

00:18:46.000 I worry for her safety as much as anybody does.

00:18:49.000 Maybe more.

00:18:51.000 It really is a big deal. 1.00

00:18:53.000 She votes against fair pay for women.

00:18:56.000 She votes against the reauthorization of the Violence Against Women Act, which is just basically protecting us from domestic abuse and stalking.

00:19:03.000 Stalking.

00:19:04.000 She votes. 1.00

00:19:05.000 She thinks that if you're a gay couple, or even if you look like a gay couple, you should be allowed to be kicked out of a restaurant.

00:19:11.000 It's really basic human rights and it's right and wrong at this point. 1.00

00:19:15.000 And I can't see another commercial and see her disguising these policies behind the words Tennessee Christian values.

00:19:25.000 Those aren't Tennessee Christian values.

00:19:27.000 I live in Tennessee.

00:19:29.000 I am Christian.

00:19:29.000 That's not what we stand for.

00:19:32.000 I need to do this.

00:19:33.000 I need you to just, I need you to forgive me for doing it because I'm doing it.

00:19:39.000 No, we stand for it.

00:19:40.000 It's like you could see the cue cards next to the camera as she's reading off of this. 0.97

00:19:44.000 That's honestly some of the worst acting I've ever seen.

00:19:48.000 I have no idea.

00:19:49.000 You know, if CAA is going to sign her for anything, you think they send her to like a couple of acting lessons first before they sign her for something like this. 0.96

00:19:55.000 It's ridiculous. 1.00

00:19:56.000 I can understand why Hollywood doesn't want to work with her. 1.00

00:19:58.000 She doesn't actually know how to read lines. 1.00

00:20:01.000 But we used to have this.

00:20:03.000 I had this theory called Yellowstoning that I talked about, you know, for a while.

00:20:07.000 This idea that they would take somebody like a Kevin Costner, like a show like Yellowstone, and then use that person and their, you know, their stature, their weight, their influence with a certain audience to mobilize them towards progressive ideals.

00:20:24.000 So they started slipping like these progressive ideas, woke characters into the show Yellowstone, of course, using Kevin Costner.

00:20:30.000 Then they also used Harrison Ford for this in one of like the spin-offs there.

00:20:33.000 You're starting to see they did a Sylvester Stallone one.

00:20:36.000 So this is kind of like a similar psyop that's being run.

00:20:41.000 You know, Charlie, to your point, it's on Middle America.

00:20:44.000 And so they're taking people who I would say have the aesthetics that would appeal to middle America, but then shifting them, nudging them into a you know, into these liberal beliefs.

00:20:57.000 And that's what you see.

00:20:58.000 Obviously, Taylor is very poorly doing so because she's beating you over a hammer with it in that scene there.

00:21:04.000 But again, it's this is the exact same type of playbook that they've gone to again and again and again.

00:21:09.000 But because they have social media now, they have the ability to create their own marketing empire through it.

00:21:15.000 I just, I just can't get over that it's Times Person of the Year.

00:21:19.000 They've given it to Hitler, they've given it to Stalin, they've given it to Putin, they've given it to every U.S. president that I can think of.

00:21:25.000 They targeted Trump.

00:21:26.000 They gave it to Trump.

00:21:26.000 Yeah, Trump.

00:21:27.000 I mean, you know, it's not morally the best person.

00:21:29.000 It is like the most important person of the year who captures the themes of the year.

00:21:34.000 And you pick Taylor Swift because she's a big celebrity.

00:21:38.000 Okay, like even if her concert is the biggest concert tour ever, even if she's the most successful singer entertainer ever, even if she is forging new frontiers in that, is that the biggest theme of 2023?

00:21:49.000 So, no, it should be.

00:21:50.000 But then they say, well, who would you have chosen?

00:21:51.000 I think Elon.

00:21:52.000 It's not even close.

00:21:53.000 I think you've got to pick.

00:21:54.000 I think you'd either pick Chat GPT.

00:21:56.000 You know, half the time they do like the entertainment of the year.

00:21:59.000 I think AI would have to do it.

00:21:59.000 I think AI, you either have Chat GPT or Sam Altman if you need a person, but you pick AI.

00:22:04.000 No, AI would have been legit, like, because that actually AI is changing our world.

00:22:07.000 Yeah.

00:22:08.000 So by the way, Elon, hello.

00:22:09.000 Look at what I mean.

00:22:10.000 I think Elon would have gotten it if he hadn't gotten it two years ago.

00:22:13.000 Elon did you can get it more than once.

00:22:16.000 Yeah, you can see it bigger now than it was, but they haven't.

00:22:19.000 I don't think they've done a rerun other than Taylor Swift had it in 17 in ages.

00:22:24.000 No, no, Taylor Swift in 2017, they gave it to like all the women of Me Too.

00:22:29.000 And Taylor Swift was one of the co-woman of the year.

00:22:33.000 And in 2006, they gave it to everyone.

00:22:35.000 So I guess she had it three times then.

00:22:37.000 Didn't they?

00:22:38.000 Really?

00:22:38.000 Yeah.

00:22:38.000 They said you were the person of the year because YouTube took off in 2006.

00:22:43.000 Yeah, no, AI would have been interesting.

00:22:45.000 That would have been actually legit.

00:22:46.000 If not, AI, I think you could also say like Jack Smith or the process.

00:22:52.000 No, think about it.

00:22:53.000 Like the big theme of this election is this is the year where they're using every extra judicial.

00:22:59.000 He could deserve it next year.

00:23:00.000 No, I'm saying you're throwing it too far ahead.

00:23:02.000 Yeah, it has to be a little bit of what the year was defined as.

00:23:06.000 Who but Elon has defined this year, right?

00:23:10.000 Anyway, we could debate it, but last year was Zelensky, right?

00:23:14.000 That's why we're wearing our Zelensky shirts, right, Jack?

00:23:17.000 And so I put my own this morning.

00:23:19.000 And by again, I just want to be Andrew, by the way, I think I've converted Andrew.

00:23:23.000 The best evidence that this is an op is Travis Kelsey signed with CAA in May.

00:23:28.000 Jack, can you tell our audience what CAA is?

00:23:30.000 It's run by Ezekiel Emmanuel, right?

00:23:33.000 Or Ari Emmanuel?

00:23:34.000 One of those Emmanuel brothers.

00:23:35.000 There's Ram Emanuel, Ezekiel Emmanuel, and Ari Emmanuel.

00:23:38.000 They're like the Death Star.

00:23:40.000 And I think it's Ari Emmanuel, if I'm not mistaken.

00:23:44.000 By the way, CAA has this huge headquarters in LA.

00:23:47.000 It's very creepy in Century City, and they represent all the A-list celebrities, all the A-list celebrities.

00:23:54.000 In fact, Jordan Peterson was once represented by them.

00:23:56.000 They dropped him.

00:23:57.000 And makes you think.

00:23:59.000 You can go to CAA.com.

00:24:01.000 Yeah, the main knock on CAA is that they were basically and essentially Harvey Weinstein's talent agency.

00:24:09.000 And so this was the one that took Weinstein and made him sort of this household figure that put him behind, and it is, yeah, Zari Manual, and went through all of his films.

00:24:20.000 And then all of the actresses that he worked with, by and large, were okay, not every single actress or actor that he worked with was through CAA, but this was his preferred agency.

00:24:30.000 And everybody sort of knew this.

00:24:32.000 Basically, that if you made a negative comment about Harvey Weinstein, they were also, they're also kind of Harvey Weinstein's enforcement arm when he was basically a sheriff of Hollywood, where if you made a negative comment publicly or privately about Harvey or about anyone who was part of CAA, you were done.

00:24:51.000 They just blacklisted you.

00:24:53.000 You were completely out.

00:24:55.000 If you did anything on, you know, and this is prior to the Me Too movement.

00:24:59.000 And so it's interesting, by the way, that CAA comes up again because as we said before, so there's this confluence between Harvey Weinstein, CAA, Taylor Swift, Travis Kelsey.

00:25:16.000 So all of a sudden, who's in the driver's seat again?

00:25:19.000 It's still Hollywood.

00:25:20.000 They got rid of Harvey, but that doesn't mean that they got rid of the system that put Harvey in place.

00:25:26.000 Now there's just a new person who's the boss of the entire system.

00:25:30.000 And yeah, this is the major one.

00:25:32.000 When you're, you know, when you're talking about your A-list celebs, you're, you know, the people who basically, when you read all those magazines, those tabloid magazines about celebrity relationships and this couple was seen here on the yacht and this thing went on.

00:25:43.000 That's all part of what the agents are putting together, what they want to put out.

00:25:48.000 And yes, there's lots of, you know, really scummy agencies out there.

00:25:51.000 There's independent agents out there.

00:25:53.000 Of course, everybody's heard these terrible stories, the casting couch, et cetera, et cetera.

00:25:56.000 But CAA is the big dog, the top of the heap for every single one of them. 0.74

00:26:02.000 I guess I could see if anyone's going to have all of her personal relationships be an op, I guess it could be Taylor Swift. 0.87

00:26:08.000 She's a mastermind of publicity, which I guess the fact that we've talked about her endlessly for the past six months is proof enough of that.

00:26:18.000 But I don't know.

00:26:19.000 I think it's deranged when it's like, okay, so these, you know, we're going to go sign Travis Kelsey to a new agency because we're anticipating that Trump will be the nominee next year.

00:26:30.000 And then we need to have Taylor Swift be really popular so that she can tell people to not vote for Donald Trump, who, by the way, we're also going to knock off the ballot through all these other mechanisms.

00:26:39.000 It's just, I think we are overestimating the ability for things to be centrally planned by anybody, to be honest.

00:26:48.000 I think if you want to say her relationship's fake, I could buy that.

00:26:51.000 Celebrities have fake relationships all the time.

00:26:53.000 And but the point is, is she just shouldn't be person of the year because that's weird and strange and deranged.

00:27:00.000 But we have another topic, but first, Jack, do you want to do our read?

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00:28:30.000 Go ahead and use that.

00:28:31.000 Obviously, a five-year-old is mostly out of diapers.

00:28:34.000 We'll put it that way.

00:28:34.000 But every once in a while, every once in a while, it's nice to have some around.

00:28:37.000 Do you think parents do that?

00:28:38.000 Do you give diapers to people for a Christmas gift?

00:28:42.000 Well, really, more if it's like a baby shower kind of thing, I would say.

00:28:46.000 Okay, okay.

00:28:47.000 That makes a lot more sense.

00:28:47.000 Yeah, just I'm imagining like you run down, it's like a Christmas story, and you know, instead of the little red rider, he opens it and there's just a bunch of diapers in it.

00:28:57.000 Honestly, though, like parents, you know, maybe like grandparents to parents, that kind of thing.

00:29:02.000 All right, all right.

00:29:03.000 Speaking of children, speaking of Christmas, speaking of everyone, I'll put it this way.

00:29:03.000 All right.

00:29:08.000 When we had our kids, we got a lot of diapers from people because we are actually queer people.

00:29:13.000 But you know, people who are not going to have diapers is topic number two.

00:29:13.000 I believe it.

00:29:17.000 We have to have a conversation about the dink question.

00:29:20.000 Wait, can I just say, can I just say that, Blake, that was a fantastic transition.

00:29:25.000 That was really good.

00:29:26.000 I am learning.

00:29:26.000 I do my best.

00:29:27.000 I'm learning.

00:29:27.000 And so the dink question.

00:29:30.000 Dinks. 1.00

00:29:31.000 Dinks, the dunks, the dunks. 1.00

00:29:33.000 It's the dinks. 1.00

00:29:34.000 Dual income, no kids.

00:29:36.000 They've existed forever, but now they're going viral because we have the national affliction known as TikTok and they are making TikToks about it.

00:29:45.000 So we have to show some of those TikToks.

00:29:47.000 I believe the first one we have here is number 79.

00:29:50.000 So let's get the conversation going with that. 0.57

00:29:53.000 Why is nobody talking about being dinks? 1.00

00:29:55.000 Well, I'm freshly married and I'm going to talk about it. 0.96

00:29:56.000 Here's our life as dinks in our early 30s. 0.89

00:29:58.000 No shocker here, folks.

00:29:59.000 Today we went to Costco.

00:30:00.000 We don't have kids to feed, but we got lots of money to spend on goodies.

00:30:03.000 Brian always checks out while I get a box and then I sit here and look cute.

00:30:06.000 Here's the haul, and our total was $252.

00:30:08.000 The registered game at Costco never gets old.

00:30:10.000 You cannot tell me that grocery shopping and a fresh slice of Costco pizza isn't a good date night.

00:30:15.000 I mean, you can tell me that, but I don't believe it.

00:30:17.000 Obviously, we had car cookies for dessert.

00:30:19.000 And yeah, I will probably just make this a series now.

00:30:21.000 So follow along for more dink content. 1.00

00:30:23.000 That woman doesn't have a good diet. 1.00

00:30:24.000 But before we get into the conversation, we have this is again, way too many people are making these.

00:30:29.000 So we also have number 80.

00:30:31.000 Let's play that. 0.97

00:30:32.000 We're dinks. 0.97

00:30:33.000 We go to Trader Joe's and workout classes on the weekends. 1.00

00:30:35.000 We're dinks. 0.63

00:30:36.000 We get into snobby hobbies like skiing and golfing. 0.99

00:30:38.000 We're dinks. 0.82

00:30:38.000 We can go to Florida on a whim. 0.82

00:30:40.000 We're dinks. 0.52

00:30:41.000 We're already planning our European vacation next year. 0.97

00:30:43.000 Dinks.

00:30:43.000 We get a full eight hours of sleep and sometimes more.

00:30:46.000 We're dinks.

00:30:47.000 We get desserts and appetizers at restaurants. 0.99

00:30:49.000 We're dinks.

00:30:50.000 We can play with other kids and give them back. 0.99

00:30:52.000 We're dinks. 0.85

00:30:53.000 We still do it three times a week. 0.99

00:30:55.000 We're dinks. 0.65

00:30:55.000 We spend our discretionary income on $8 lattes. 0.65

00:30:58.000 We're dinks.

00:30:59.000 We max out our 401ks, Roth IRAs, and HSAs. 0.99

00:31:02.000 We're dinks.

00:31:03.000 We don't use our kids or dog as an excuse to leave a party. 0.98

00:31:06.000 We just leave.

00:31:08.000 I mean, three times a week, that's actually not really that.

00:31:16.000 I'm just going to throw this out there. 0.97

00:31:17.000 You can have kids and still have sex. 0.91

00:31:18.000 I'm just going to throw it out there, folks. 0.97

00:31:20.000 In fact, that's how you get the kids in the first place.

00:31:22.000 Allegedly.

00:31:23.000 Well, I mean, at least it's the half step where they're promoting at least a relationship.

00:31:30.000 So at least we should get that there's a very, you know, three times a week.

00:31:35.000 There's like a decent odds they'll screw up at some point.

00:31:38.000 But Yeah, I think the craziest thing that I've noticed since being a millennial and Jack, we're kind of in that same like age category.

00:31:47.000 We're just right there, which is like all our friends.

00:31:50.000 There's a lot of people who have literally positioned themselves for, I think, I think the problem is they positioned themselves for over a decade that they're just not going to have kids no matter what.

00:32:02.000 And so now like the natural progression is that people are getting married now later on.

00:32:07.000 And that's fine.

00:32:08.000 Like I, again, I'm not being judgy on like who has kids, who doesn't, when they get married, whatever.

00:32:13.000 Like, I think earlier the better, great, whatever.

00:32:16.000 But they're getting married later on in life.

00:32:18.000 And so now this is like the half step before they have kids.

00:32:22.000 And my only fear is that by the time they realize they actually want to have kids, it'll be too late because they just like drug out their life for way too long.

00:32:31.000 Yeah, see, this, yeah, so this ties into the Taylor Swift thing because this has been a knock on Taylor Swift for years at this point.

00:32:39.000 There used to be this whole meme, you know, this could all kind of be like a sort of deep web reveal.

00:32:44.000 Blake, do you remember this one?

00:32:45.000 The empty egg carton meme?

00:32:47.000 Far too well.

00:32:48.000 Far too well.

00:32:49.000 Last egg.

00:32:52.000 So this was the idea that, and there was a certain YouTuber, former YouTuber, I guess, who got in trouble for, it was Stefan Molyneux, and who posted, you know, these, who just basically went on a tirade on Twitter and was like, look, you know, Taylor Swift is in her prime years for child rearing for, and she's spending all of this time going around, focused on her career, talks about wanting a family, talks about wanting a relationship.

00:32:52.000 Exactly.

00:33:20.000 Every single song is about having a relationship.

00:33:22.000 And yet, there's no actual time that she invests into it.

00:33:28.000 She just invests all her time into her career and essentially herself.

00:33:32.000 And so the empty egg cart.

00:33:34.000 This is like years ago.

00:33:34.000 This is like five or six years ago that this was going on.

00:33:37.000 So even then, you know, even I guess she would have been her like kind of mid-20s.

00:33:42.000 What's she like?

00:33:42.000 She's like, how old is she, guys?

00:33:44.000 She's like 31?

00:33:45.000 33, 33.

00:33:47.000 I think maybe 34.

00:33:48.000 She was born in 2018.

00:33:48.000 She's 33.

00:33:51.000 Right, right, right.

00:33:53.000 So she'll be, so she'll be 34.

00:33:54.000 Wow.

00:33:55.000 She is 34.

00:33:56.000 I think this is.

00:33:56.000 Okay.

00:33:56.000 I think she's maybe already 34, right?

00:33:58.000 No, she's 34 next week. 0.66

00:34:00.000 Look at that. 1.00

00:34:01.000 Next birthday.

00:34:02.000 Well, like to that point, though, like, I think I think the horrifying thing is, and again, that's the important piece that you just, you just hit on, which is that it's not, it's, it's not whether or not you are married.

00:34:13.000 It's not whether or not you have kids.

00:34:15.000 It's about the desire and putting yourself in the right place to do those things.

00:34:19.000 Because there's, I think that the world that we live in today with social media and everything else is like it's it's challenging.

00:34:25.000 It's actually more challenging, I think, arguably than it ever has been to have a normal relationship.

00:34:32.000 It's more challenging than it's ever been to have like you can't, there's no privacy to like raise your kids the same way.

00:34:39.000 There just is you can make the argument you could you could go live in a hole somewhere, but like if you're not on normal social media and things like that, you're a weirdo in the eyes of like regular suburban America.

00:34:50.000 So like you have to be in the spotlight in some way, shape or form, more than what you are normally, what the normal human being in the 80s or 90s was comfortable with.

00:34:58.000 And so now you have this issue of, I think this is just, is that people are skittish.

00:35:05.000 It's like stage fright.

00:35:06.000 They're stage fright to that.

00:35:07.000 And I don't blame men for having stage fright to that.

00:35:10.000 Most of my friends, like I talk to, and I'm not even like, it's like Jack or Charlie here, but like, like you and I have similar things where people kind of become aware of you through different things.

00:35:21.000 People are like, I want nothing to do with that because I couldn't have, I wouldn't be down with the introspection into my life from like the general public.

00:35:29.000 I wouldn't like that.

00:35:31.000 And I think there's an element of that just with social media in general.

00:35:34.000 People where guys feel like that, women feel like that.

00:35:36.000 And so they act differently.

00:35:38.000 And so it adds stage fright so delays that's adding to the delaying factor.

00:35:42.000 And now you've got into your mind that you've adopted that, like, hey, I'm not going to have kids for 10 years.

00:35:46.000 I'm not going to have kids for 20 years.

00:35:48.000 And then you finally do have a relationship, and you're like, I'm sorry, I'm not going to get married for 10 years.

00:35:54.000 I'm not going to get married for so X amount of years.

00:35:56.000 And then you finally get in a relationship.

00:35:57.000 And then you're, that's like the justification.

00:35:59.000 That like that dink video, that video that you guys just posted, to me, it just like screams like justifying the reason why they're not having kids rather than putting yourself in the position, like Jack is saying, that like you want to have kids, like you want to try to get because the sad part is on the other side of the coin to that, there's so many people in this world that want to have kids that either can't get in a fortuitous relationship, they can't have kids physically for whatever reason because of health issues or whatever. 0.77

00:36:26.000 And like that to me is sad.

00:36:28.000 And going into that, the you know, these people might want kids later eventually.

00:36:33.000 But, you know, for a society obsessed with misinformation and disinformation, one of the biggest sources of misinformation out there is actually just about basic fertility.

00:36:43.000 Yeah.

00:36:43.000 It's really a lot harder.

00:36:47.000 It's a lot harder to have your first kid if you start trying only after 30.

00:36:52.000 Totally.

00:36:52.000 It's even things that things that aren't well known.

00:36:55.000 If you have already had a kid, it's way easier to have a second kid, even if it's later.

00:36:59.000 So if you're having your fourth kid at 35, way easier than if you're having your first kid at 35.

00:37:04.000 Your body detects these things.

00:37:07.000 It sort of detects up this person, it's not taking.

00:37:10.000 It's not going to happen.

00:37:11.000 And, you know, it shifts, I don't know, do you want to say resources elsewhere and makes it way harder?

00:37:18.000 And so that's how you have all these people who, you know, they wait for the perfect moment.

00:37:21.000 And then at the perfect moment, it turns out you have to spend $70,000 on fertility treatments.

00:37:26.000 Or they're just sad the rest of their life.

00:37:28.000 Or they're sad.

00:37:28.000 And it's really sad.

00:37:29.000 I've had, I had some friends who had, who did thankfully have a kid, but they had issues for a long time.

00:37:34.000 And so they fell down the rabbit hole that is the infertility community on the internet because everything has a community these days.

00:37:42.000 And it is really bad.

00:37:44.000 It is, it is very clear for a lot of people that not having kids, not being able to have kids ruins their lives.

00:37:50.000 It ruins their relationship with their parents.

00:37:52.000 It ruins their relationship with their spouse.

00:37:55.000 Even if it's not because of a choice, even if it's only due to a biological thing, it just totally destroys people.

00:38:03.000 I guess the other interesting flip side of it is this is we are living through the first era where really not having kids is a choice you can just easily make.

00:38:12.000 So you'd only have reliable birth control from about the 60s on.

00:38:17.000 And I think you have a hangover of a few decades where it's still so abnormal to not have kids if you marry that it's still just everyone does it.

00:38:24.000 Well, that's the interesting part.

00:38:25.000 It's like we're in the era again, and people talk equate this all the time.

00:38:29.000 We were talking a little bit about this with Rome and everything else.

00:38:31.000 Is we're in the era of lifestyle choices, right?

00:38:34.000 Where lifestyle choices are so simple and so easy because we live in such a society that lifestyle choices are easy.

00:38:42.000 And these are problems that are created, that are generated because society is so simple.

00:38:49.000 And it's interesting because, you know, the forces of natural selection being what they are, we are now going through a selection process of the only people having kids are the ones who choose to have kids and like having kids.

00:39:00.000 So it's kind of good news.

00:39:01.000 I guess in 50 years, being parent, being a parent will be better because everyone will have selected for I love having kids.

00:39:07.000 How's that worked out in Europe though?

00:39:09.000 Well, you know, it's interesting thing about not even just Europe, South Korea, South Korea, their fertility rate is down to 0.7.

00:39:15.000 So the average woman will have 0.7 kids.

00:39:17.000 That means in two generations, 100 people gets down to about 12 people. 0.97

00:39:22.000 Yeah.

00:39:23.000 And it's going to be really interesting if that pattern holds a long time because your population is going to get massively shifted by what are the choices and life patterns of people who actually decide to show up for the future.

00:39:36.000 And that's who the future goes to.

00:39:37.000 Who shows up for it?

00:39:39.000 Yeah.

00:39:39.000 And so this is a huge thing.

00:39:41.000 But, but also, when you really think about it, you know, the type of demographic that, you know, going back to the Taylor Swift setup, you know, it's, and I'm just going to say it since we're here on Thought Crime.

00:39:54.000 You guys played all those videos.

00:39:56.000 We talked about Taylor Swift being a huge, huge part of this.

00:39:59.000 That was my contention earlier this week on Twitter.

00:40:02.000 I took a lot of crap for it, but I said, you know, prove me wrong. 1.00

00:40:05.000 Prove me wrong that Taylor Swift is not promoting a double income no kids lifestyle, even though she's not married. 0.94

00:40:11.000 They said, and the Swifties were like coming at me, claiming, oh, it's not her fault.

00:40:15.000 It's, you know, the fault of all these men and all this.

00:40:17.000 Yeah, okay.

00:40:18.000 All right.

00:40:18.000 I got it.

00:40:20.000 And so the, you know, I guess the big thing that I would take away is, is, and Blake, to your, to your point as well, like, have you noticed that all of the viral videos on the dink thing, they're all white?

00:40:34.000 Yes.

00:40:34.000 You notice that I haven't seen any of these promoted, or at least, you know, I'm sure there are dinks that are not, but the ones that seem to be getting promoted the most algorithmically are white.

00:40:46.000 Funny how that works.

00:40:47.000 Well, bluntly, I think they are the ones who often choose this. 0.99

00:40:50.000 Like, I mean, the gay community is all dinks, right? 1.00

00:40:52.000 Yeah, the gay community is all dinks. 1.00

00:40:54.000 They're very white. 1.00

00:40:55.000 That's not true.

00:40:56.000 That is not true.

00:40:57.000 There was a lot of gay adoption.

00:40:59.000 There's a decent amount.

00:41:01.000 Not statistically.

00:41:02.000 And like, you know, and for like statistically, it's like, okay, it's like tiny.

00:41:06.000 And like, and just in terms of deliberate childlessness, it does frankly seem to be a very, you know, upper class white people phenomenon.

00:41:16.000 Asians too, I suppose, but upper class Asians are just sort of considered white by so the first time I ever heard of this was in China.

00:41:25.000 Like 10, 15 years ago, the first time I ever heard of dink, this was all the rage in China when I lived there that they were saying, oh, yeah, double income, no kids.

00:41:34.000 This was a thing, double income, no kids.

00:41:36.000 And then they were even, and keep in mind, China obviously is a country that at the time was promoting population degrowth, population or depopulation agenda, I guess.

00:41:48.000 So the one child policy.

00:41:49.000 And then even in China, the idea too was for tax purposes and for career and income, they were so hyper-focused on this.

00:41:56.000 So like there's this sort of, you know, kind of old school conservative belief that China is like this hyper-Marxist society.

00:42:03.000 But no, it's actually kind of the opposite.

00:42:05.000 Like they are intensely career focused and intensely competitive in terms of career and ranking and income in China.

00:42:14.000 You know, they're almost more hyper capitalist than we are in certain ways.

00:42:18.000 Certainly not, you know, democratically.

00:42:20.000 And, you know, they have, they don't have any of that going on.

00:42:23.000 But in terms of economy, yeah, yeah, they really are.

00:42:26.000 And so they had this total normalization of people being married and then living in countries or cities all over the country.

00:42:34.000 So you wouldn't even see your wife or your spouse unless you were basically going home for Golden Week, which is like their holidays.

00:42:39.000 So like you'd see your wife on the holidays and then that was it.

00:42:42.000 So there wouldn't even be an opportunity to have kids.

00:42:46.000 And so they would even take it to the next step and say, okay, we're married.

00:42:49.000 We are double income for tax purposes, but we don't even have like a real normal relationship in any meaningful way because it's all long distance.

00:42:59.000 And this is was promoted in China.

00:43:02.000 I think it's really interesting.

00:43:04.000 It just reminded me of this is that Stalin, since we invoke Stalin's name here, Stalin actually taxed people for not having kids.

00:43:15.000 So they instituted.

00:43:16.000 I think you could justify that.

00:43:18.000 And I think it'll be interesting.

00:43:19.000 If we start seeing serious population decline, we're all kind of wusses about it.

00:43:25.000 In all these Western countries, we do a child tax credit and it's worth a few thousand dollars a year.

00:43:29.000 But yeah, what if you just literally had like a single tax?

00:43:32.000 Well, I mean, but this is the point.

00:43:34.000 Like Marxists, true Marxists don't want you to be career-driven, right?

00:43:38.000 True Marxists that want to control, you know, everything that they have, you have to have bodies, you have to have people.

00:43:47.000 You want families, you want growth, you want them to be busy, not wanting to do extra stuff.

00:43:53.000 Like, I mean, you heard in that dink thing, and he's like, they're like, we can travel, we can do whatever we want. 1.00

00:43:58.000 Like, that's not what, that's not what the communists want.

00:44:01.000 Commies want you to be busy, and so you work all day and then you come home and you have to take care of your kids too.

00:44:09.000 And that's part of, I think, that that's part of like, there's like two sides to it.

00:44:14.000 So there's no, there's no evading, you know, reproduction.

00:44:19.000 Like in the grand scheme of like the world, there's no evading children.

00:44:23.000 Like, there's just not.

00:44:24.000 You're not going to get away from it.

00:44:27.000 You're going to be forced into it.

00:44:29.000 Society is going to force you into it.

00:44:30.000 The question is, like, how does society raise children?

00:44:35.000 And, you know, I think, and this goes back to again, the traditional way is like single income, you know, dual roles rather than dual income, single roles is a much better way.

00:44:48.000 And we are now living in a society where it's dual income, single role rather than single income, dual roles within a household because this is ultimately break, it ultimately breaks up families.

00:44:59.000 Because again, when you live your own life, you have your own, your own separation.

00:45:03.000 I mean, this is kind of the conversation I think Tucker talks about all the time, or he used to talk about it quite a bit.

00:45:09.000 But you know, going back to the start of the world, well, Tyler, I'll actually sorry, you go, Jack.

00:45:16.000 You go Jack.

00:45:17.000 Yeah, I want to follow up on a little bit of what Tyler said there because Tyler, this is something that does play politically for the new right.

00:45:24.000 This is a huge new right piece of the agenda.

00:45:27.000 And I wonder, and you and I obviously have talked about this many times.

00:45:30.000 But if you want to give people an encapsulation, you know, you've talked about it before about how there's a huge opportunity here politically, you know, to focus on these millennials who want to go back to the single income household and then have a family that can be raised on a single household and then creating the economic conditions to make this possible.

00:45:52.000 JD Vance talks about this and others.

00:45:54.000 You know, what do you see as a potential political win for if conservatives were to start adopting this language?

00:46:04.000 Yeah, I mean, I think that the future of what we're going to see is that I mean, I don't think there's any turning the ship around.

00:46:12.000 I think the gen the attack on gender identity is the satanic explicitness on an attack on the family and specifically wanting to promote more childlessness.

00:46:27.000 That's, I think that's ultimately where you're at. 0.75

00:46:30.000 Because if you talk about this, we talk, and I was kind of just joking, but like the greatest dink culture that exists within America is in the gay community, right? 1.00

00:46:37.000 Like there's just not that is that is the culture.

00:46:40.000 And in fact, everybody has a gay friend and every man has a wife.

00:46:47.000 A lot of us on the show have gay enemies too. 0.99

00:46:49.000 Gay enemies. 1.00

00:46:50.000 Okay. 0.99

00:46:50.000 We're all gay enemies too. 0.99

00:46:52.000 We all have lots of gay plans. 0.92

00:46:54.000 We have gay friends.

00:46:55.000 Our wives certainly have gay friends and they look at their gay friends.

00:46:58.000 And I've seen this.

00:46:59.000 And actually, I have an example of this. 1.00

00:47:02.000 Can I kill you, Jack? 1.00

00:47:03.000 I have an example of this. 1.00

00:47:04.000 A FBI won't investigate.

00:47:07.000 I have a friend.

00:47:08.000 This is a crazy story.

00:47:09.000 I won't get into the details, but I have a friend who is married, newly married, and they were in a gay neighborhood in a big city. 0.95

00:47:19.000 Gay neighborhood. 0.53

00:47:20.000 They're not gay.

00:47:20.000 They're man and woman married.

00:47:22.000 Sure.

00:47:23.000 And I'm sure he tells me that a lot.

00:47:25.000 And they were thinking about having kids, right?

00:47:27.000 And they were thinking about that.

00:47:29.000 But the wife, like, had all these gay friends and loved the dink culture that was within, that was within the gay community. 0.98

00:47:38.000 Not the gay culture, the dink culture, which was like they could go out and do whatever they wanted to do all the time brunch every week. 1.00

00:47:45.000 And her values changed overnight by who she hung out with because she was in that culture of like, I can brunch whatever I want.

00:47:52.000 I can mimose it every day. 0.92

00:47:54.000 Like, why would I want to have kids?

00:47:55.000 Like, I'm going to keep delaying it later.

00:47:57.000 Ultimately, like, she adopted into that culture and they divorced very quickly, very rapidly.

00:48:04.000 But, I mean, I think it's like a, it's like a real thing.

00:48:07.000 So, uh, because he should have been person of the year, as Charlie says, uh, or at least second place, uh, we, every time Elon Musk has an opinion, it becomes a story.

00:48:15.000 So, Elon Musk reacted to this stuff earlier today.

00:48:19.000 He, uh, if you guys want to bring it up on screen, uh, Elon Musk hits out at viral videos of dink couples saying there is an awful morality to those who choose not to have children. 0.92

00:48:30.000 And I was arguing about this with Charlie earlier because there's a few levels to this.

00:48:34.000 Like, one, Elon Musk himself is like a step warlord where he's got 10 kids officially with, I think, four different women.

00:48:44.000 And that we know of.

00:48:45.000 That we know of.

00:48:46.000 And I've heard rumors he might have like 40.

00:48:48.000 Because there are.

00:48:49.000 And you know the Amber Heard one, right?

00:48:51.000 I'm not familiar with that specific one.

00:48:55.000 She has never publicly revealed the father of her daughter.

00:49:00.000 And we know that Elon and her.

00:49:03.000 Now, she claims it was just a sperm donor.

00:49:05.000 However, people know that she was with Elon briefly.

00:49:10.000 This was so, okay, everybody knows that she was with Johnny Depp, of course, very public.

00:49:15.000 But briefly after that relationship, she spent some time with Elon Musk when they were together.

00:49:22.000 Then a couple months after that relationship, she just kind of shows up with this, with this daughter and says, I even heard rumors to that effect, like the sperm donor thing.

00:49:30.000 I've heard rumors that Musk just straight up will just, yeah, be a donor for people.

00:49:35.000 He is just a progeny maximizer.

00:49:37.000 He is not, it's not the carnal aspect that is most important here.

00:49:42.000 Yeah, this is very, you know, I mean, obviously we know that he is someone who's very supportive of surrogacy.

00:49:48.000 He's done this.

00:49:49.000 He had twins, right?

00:49:52.000 With one of the executives at Nerlink recently.

00:49:56.000 We know that I believe at least one, if not both, of the children that he had with Grimes were via surrogate.

00:50:04.000 And so, yeah, this is clearly something.

00:50:07.000 And then I believe his first, I believe his first wife that he's five boys or five children with, I forget if they're all boys or not.

00:50:14.000 That was IVF.

00:50:15.000 So he's, you know, this, you know, we were talking about the infertility community, but, you know, just in the fertility, I guess the vast spectrum of fertility procedures out there, Elon is certainly a huge, huge proponent.

00:50:27.000 Yeah, think about it, though.

00:50:28.000 If you're, if you're a genius and you have limitless amounts of money, like you would just more don't do this.

00:50:35.000 Yeah, you would just like, it's like, it's like parents of athletes, you know, that are like, that want to have as many kids or are pro-athletes that want to have as many kids as they possibly can to make sure one of their kids becomes a pro-athlete.

00:50:49.000 Have you heard about this?

00:50:50.000 Like, there's a lot of like the Brown family. 0.61

00:50:55.000 My aunt and uncle used to have a horse farm in Pennsylvania.

00:50:58.000 And so whenever you had one of your champion horses, you know, you would, you would turn into a stud after it was done.

00:51:04.000 It's racing.

00:51:05.000 And so you would basically sell the sperm to the other breeders out there, hoping that you would get a champion.

00:51:11.000 I mean, this was huge money.

00:51:13.000 But can I say something that's a little bit thought crimy?

00:51:16.000 This is like what pro-athletes do.

00:51:18.000 So, there's an argument that like pro-athletes hook up with all these girls and have all these kids because there's an element here where it's like, oh, it's worth your money because the more kids you have, the more likely that you'll end up with another pro-athlete that comes out of your DNA bank.

00:51:33.000 Like, this is the same thing.

00:51:34.000 Like, if I'm Elon Musk, of course, like, just give everybody my sperm.

00:51:39.000 Anyone that wants to take it, there's like a thousand future Elons. 1.00

00:51:44.000 If you think you're a genius and that you're going to inject all these genius DNA pools back out into the world, this could get really insane once, like, we could have just straight, what if we have an artificial womb?

00:51:56.000 You don't even need another woman up there. 1.00

00:51:57.000 He probably does. 1.00

00:51:59.000 What if we get to that point where you can just have an artificial womb? 0.98

00:52:02.000 You could just have a rich guy, even if he just wants it with one woman, he could just have a hundred kids.

00:52:07.000 Two, this is what James Younger was saying.

00:52:11.000 Yeah.

00:52:11.000 We could get some wild stuff.

00:52:13.000 Was that his name?

00:52:13.000 Do you remember?

00:52:14.000 James Younger?

00:52:14.000 Yeah.

00:52:15.000 James Younger got into it with Libby Emmons over this recently because he was saying that.

00:52:20.000 And keep in mind, James, this is a guy who obviously went through a lot.

00:52:23.000 He went through that.

00:52:24.000 This was the guy who had the divorce down in Texas.

00:52:27.000 And then she moved with the kid to California. 0.98

00:52:30.000 And they were going to try to do some kind of hormone therapy, you know, transgender sort of thing with the kid.

00:52:36.000 You know, I'm probably botching the details.

00:52:38.000 But anyway, it got to the point where he was so upset about everything that he went through that he and Libby Emmons got on Timcast together and he said, look, men shouldn't even, you know, now that we have surrogacy, why are men even pursuing relationships with women at all?

00:52:50.000 They should just, you should just go ahead and use surrogacy, have kids, bring them in, and cut the woman out completely. 1.00

00:52:57.000 Which I personally disagree with. 0.58

00:53:02.000 Are we talking about IVF?

00:53:03.000 We're talking about the well, actually, funny enough, inspiration.

00:53:09.000 Sorry, I had to handle something.

00:53:11.000 We were talking about how we were talking about how Elon had basically.

00:53:16.000 So we started with Ding, and then we got to Elon, who's like the opposite of that.

00:53:19.000 We didn't use that term.

00:53:20.000 Well, not just, we didn't use the term harents because it's not just harems.

00:53:23.000 It's that he's like he's like all of the above in terms of like, you know, the way you IVF surrogacy is.

00:53:30.000 I'll be honest.

00:53:30.000 I think the point I was going to throw out, though, is like, this is something that Plato kind of talks about in the Republic, where he says that, you know, marriage, you know, for the, for the highest caste, the guardian class, you know, there's only, you know, your spouse will only be for like the duration of the sexual intercourse.

00:53:50.000 There will be a ceremony.

00:53:51.000 The best women will be chosen for the best men.

00:53:54.000 And it, you know, it seems like he's trying to actually put that.

00:53:57.000 Elon is trending.

00:53:58.000 And if I ever meet him, I'll tell him this.

00:53:59.000 He's trending for the story of Solomon, who has everything and he ends up totally insane.

00:54:04.000 And he also, I mean, one of the most powerful books of the whole Bible is Ecclesiastes, where he basically opens like a punk rocker where the first verse of Ecclesiastes is meaningless, meaningless, meaningless, always life.

00:54:16.000 And Solomon's splendor was so great that Christ our Lord then repeats in the New Testament, he says, not even Solomon and all of his splendor would be clothed like you will in the next life.

00:54:26.000 And I mean, Elon's like Solomon.

00:54:28.000 Like, he's got like 90, like, we know how many women has he had.

00:54:30.000 Didn't he have like 900 or something?

00:54:32.000 Solomon or Elon?

00:54:33.000 Oh, oh, Elon.

00:54:34.000 I think Elon has like, what, 140 children or something?

00:54:37.000 So he publicly has 10.

00:54:39.000 There's rumors he has dozens.

00:54:41.000 No, I've heard at least I've heard over 100.

00:54:44.000 I suspect the legend will grow with time until eventually every child.

00:54:47.000 Yeah, look, let me be clear.

00:54:48.000 If you're worth $250 billion, there's worse things to spend money on than populating the species with geniuses.

00:54:55.000 Okay.

00:54:55.000 So, but it doesn't make your life fulfilling.

00:54:58.000 Doesn't Nick Cannon have like a done a dozen kids?

00:55:01.000 There's like a Russian billionaire who just needs surrogates to have.

00:55:04.000 Yeah, but what athlete has the most kids in America?

00:55:06.000 What athlete?

00:55:08.000 Like, didn't Magic Johnson?

00:55:10.000 Like 100 kids?

00:55:13.000 Magic Johnson had a lot of things.

00:55:15.000 I know, but that's how he ended up where he ended up.

00:55:18.000 He had like, he had.

00:55:20.000 I'm saying that, but he was just like everywhere.

00:55:23.000 Everywhere.

00:55:24.000 Everywhere.

00:55:24.000 But he had lots of kids, too.

00:55:27.000 Magic Johnson was athlete with most everywhere in America.

00:55:31.000 I'm looking here.

00:55:32.000 Calvin Murphy had 14 children with nine women.

00:55:36.000 Who's Calvin Murphy?

00:55:38.000 I don't know. 1.00

00:55:38.000 I just put up on this stupid line. 1.00

00:55:40.000 Sounds like a wide receiver. 1.00

00:55:41.000 Mike Tyson has sounds like a wide receiver.

00:55:44.000 No, but Solomon is a perfect example for where Elon is going.

00:55:48.000 Keep in mind, Philip Rivers, I think, is up to 11 or 12.

00:55:51.000 Is that right?

00:55:51.000 With one wife.

00:55:52.000 Oh, come on. 0.99

00:55:53.000 One woman.

00:55:53.000 Really?

00:55:54.000 Yes.

00:55:55.000 Nick Cannon has 12.

00:55:56.000 Phillip Rivers is a legend.

00:55:57.000 So he didn't go to the side.

00:55:59.000 He was one of the most underrated NFL quarterbacks in history.

00:56:01.000 Yeah.

00:56:02.000 And he's like a super Catholic.

00:56:03.000 He married his middle school sweetheart in college.

00:56:06.000 And they've just, yeah.

00:56:07.000 Tiffany Rivers.

00:56:08.000 Wow.

00:56:10.000 Good for him.

00:56:10.000 Yeah.

00:56:11.000 Drew Brees has 90 kids or something.

00:56:14.000 Right.

00:56:14.000 That's a lot.

00:56:15.000 Not as many as Philip Rivers.

00:56:16.000 Philip Rivers is the legend.

00:56:17.000 The Vander Holyfield, 11 kids.

00:56:19.000 Ooh, wow.

00:56:20.000 That's quite a few.

00:56:21.000 Didn't George Foreman also like name all of his sons George Foreman?

00:56:25.000 Muhammad Ali had nine.

00:56:29.000 But this isn't, this isn't like a there's athletes out there that probably have kids.

00:56:35.000 Yeah, Blake, it was like George Foreman because he did Junior and then the third and then the fourth.

00:56:40.000 They were all 12 children, five sons and seven daughters.

00:56:43.000 And his five sons are George Jr., George III, George IV, George V, and George VI, nicknamed Monk, Big Wheel, Red, and Little Joey.

00:56:54.000 And then the first one, of course, is Junior.

00:56:57.000 So good.

00:56:58.000 He says, I named all my sons George Edward Foreman, so they would always have something in common.

00:57:05.000 The bigger question is how many, I mean, if you stack rank them with all the abortions involved, that would be a lot.

00:57:12.000 Oof, making me sad, man.

00:57:14.000 I don't want to think about that well.

00:57:15.000 But that's the dink culture. 1.00

00:57:17.000 Dink culture is abortion culture. 0.99

00:57:20.000 They say the question is: is being a dink immoral? 1.00

00:57:22.000 Yes, being a dink intentionally not having avoiding having children, whether through adoption. 1.00

00:57:27.000 I understand Barron.

00:57:28.000 I totally understand Barron.

00:57:30.000 Like, that's a terrible thing.

00:57:31.000 I wouldn't wish that.

00:57:31.000 Or even just having struggles getting in a relationship.

00:57:34.000 No, I totally agree.

00:57:34.000 These people can't get a relationship.

00:57:35.000 But that's what's so sick about the dink thing. 1.00

00:57:37.000 You have a partner and you're saying, no, I don't want to do the hard thing, the necessary thing. 0.81

00:57:43.000 I think that's really sick.

00:57:45.000 I really do. 0.97

00:57:45.000 Dink culture is abortion. 0.97

00:57:47.000 It is. 0.91

00:57:47.000 So it's necessary. 0.91

00:57:48.000 It's like decayed value.

00:57:49.000 It's the same value system, which is that less children is more evil and it's more selfish.

00:57:55.000 It's more self-serving.

00:57:56.000 I mean, that's the opposite of why we're placed on this earth.

00:57:59.000 Somebody on our show, somebody emailed our show, Charlie, you know, leave the dink people alone. 1.00

00:58:02.000 No, They don't want to be left alone.

00:58:05.000 That's why they're on social media.

00:58:06.000 So don't give me that.

00:58:08.000 So like they go on social bragging about go on TikTok, make your super TikTok, and then leave me alone.

00:58:13.000 I want attention.

00:58:14.000 Wait, why am I getting attention?

00:58:16.000 Hold on a second.

00:58:17.000 You guys went on social media talking about how great it is and you don't like to defend yourself.

00:58:21.000 And you're like, we're being doxed.

00:58:23.000 How are you being doxed if you go on TikTok talking about going to Costco?

00:58:26.000 And oh, it only costs $250.

00:58:29.000 There's more to life than money.

00:58:30.000 There's more to life than resources.

00:58:32.000 Having kids is the greatest thing ever.

00:58:34.000 It's the greatest thing ever.

00:58:36.000 If you're going to say it's immoral, you can't just say it's great to have kids.

00:58:39.000 You have to say, it is necessary to have kids.

00:58:41.000 Well, it is your dispute.

00:58:42.000 It's just so happy.

00:58:43.000 But look, some people have kids and it's very tough.

00:58:46.000 They might have sicknesses.

00:58:47.000 They might be errant and all that.

00:58:49.000 But it is the moral obligation to continue the species.

00:58:52.000 And by the way, if you can't do that, then adopt kids.

00:58:54.000 Do something to continue the species.

00:58:57.000 To steward the next generation. 0.64

00:58:59.000 You have to.

00:59:00.000 Yeah.

00:59:01.000 There's no picture.

00:59:02.000 The first video we showed.

00:59:03.000 If you look at a picture of like a family reunion and you just see there's always like sort of the patriarch and the matriarch, right?

00:59:09.000 You know, there's always like the grandpa, the grandma, and usually the grandmom's sitting at the center, and everyone can think of one of these photos.

00:59:16.000 And then you just see the children that came from her, the grandchildren, and God willing, there's great grandchildren running around.

00:59:25.000 And you look at all that life that came from one person.

00:59:31.000 And nobody is sitting there going, looking at that grandmother saying, gee, I wonder what her career was.

00:59:37.000 I wonder what her position was at the office. 1.00

00:59:39.000 I want to know if she had a cornered desk. 0.97

00:59:41.000 No, she's surrounded by her accomplishments right there. 1.00

00:59:45.000 Hot off the presses.

00:59:46.000 So this is the total opposite of the dink culture or anything that Taylor Swift is promoting. 1.00

00:59:51.000 Hot off the presses, tweeted within the last two minutes, Cernovich on Twitter.

00:59:55.000 I was going to make this point, but he just did it better than I would anyway. 0.98

00:59:58.000 We're dinks. 0.90

00:59:59.000 We're renting bicycles to travel through Africa during our vacation. 0.99

01:00:02.000 Everyone would think that's cool, but being some fat snack eater with a pencil goatee, buying chips in bulk at Costco while watching games all weekend is gross.

01:00:10.000 So that's that's part of it. 0.94

01:00:12.000 Like, yeah, if you're going to do a dink and do something really cool, it's probably still bad, but it at least, you know, people would feel a little envious, but like, I'm a dink. 0.95

01:00:21.000 I get to go to Costco and stuff my fat face with the Costco pizza. 0.76

01:00:25.000 And by the way, nothing in any of these videos makes me envy it.

01:00:29.000 Like, it just, it's sad.

01:00:31.000 I watch these videos.

01:00:32.000 It looks so sad.

01:00:32.000 Right?

01:00:33.000 It's just, it's sick.

01:00:34.000 It really is.

01:00:34.000 I think it's a mental health.

01:00:35.000 They're like gay married. 0.97

01:00:36.000 I mean, and I, by the way, you know what's so sick about it is that the amount of emails I get of people with regret, I can't have kids. 0.96

01:00:43.000 I wish I would.

01:00:44.000 That I totally understand.

01:00:46.000 I totally get that.

01:00:47.000 Or I should have prioritized it earlier.

01:00:49.000 This is an idea pathogen.

01:00:51.000 I think it's a major cope.

01:00:52.000 You know what it reminds me of?

01:00:53.000 Shout your abortion. 0.97

01:00:54.000 Dink culture is very similar to shouting abortion. 1.00

01:00:57.000 Very similar.

01:01:00.000 People, one of the bad things with social media is it's created a much larger platform for the already bad pattern of essentially very loudly justifying your decisions to the world.

01:01:14.000 And essentially, you know, you don't, they're not having children.

01:01:17.000 So what they need to do is they need to have ideological children by convincing other people to do the same things as them.

01:01:23.000 Yes.

01:01:23.000 Well, I mean, and this is the other thing that I think bothers me the most.

01:01:27.000 I actually hate, I loathe when people post their personal information on, I think it's so embarrassing when people are like go to social media and they talk about their personal relationships.

01:01:38.000 I just, I just hate that.

01:01:40.000 I think, you know, post on social media, whatever.

01:01:42.000 I think the name of the game should be post as little as you possibly can while still being like normally socially acceptable to society.

01:01:50.000 I think that's the, that's the, the vector.

01:01:52.000 That's just me.

01:01:54.000 I hate when my friends and people that I know that I actually care or once upon a time cared about go and they talk about all their problems too much.

01:02:02.000 They talk about their personal relationships.

01:02:04.000 And to me, like, this is the same thing, whether it's good or bad, like it's always embarrassing when people are like, oh, yeah, we're so happy.

01:02:12.000 We're not having kids.

01:02:13.000 And then like a month later, they're broken up.

01:02:15.000 And it's like, well, was that part of it?

01:02:17.000 Was that?

01:02:17.000 And then that starts messing with other people's heads too.

01:02:20.000 Maybe in a good way, maybe in a bad way.

01:02:22.000 But like, I think a lot of people, they end up there again because they see on social media, they see their friends.

01:02:27.000 They never used to see.

01:02:28.000 You never used to see your friends internal personal relationships.

01:02:31.000 They live down the street.

01:02:32.000 You never talk to them.

01:02:33.000 When's the last time you talked to your neighbor?

01:02:35.000 When's the last time you talked to one of your friends from high school?

01:02:37.000 You just don't.

01:02:38.000 You didn't.

01:02:39.000 Now on social media, you see all this stuff and you see your friend from high school.

01:02:43.000 He's like, oh, he didn't decide to have kids.

01:02:46.000 You know, I had four bing, bang, bang, right out of high school. 1.00

01:02:48.000 And in your head, you're miserable. 0.96

01:02:51.000 Bam, leads to divorce.

01:02:52.000 Bam, leads to finding a different relationship.

01:02:56.000 Bam, leads to not rearing for your children the same way that you would have not been aware of what other people were doing.

01:03:02.000 I just think it's so unhealthy.

01:03:03.000 Okay.

01:03:04.000 Yeah, Tyler, I think, is exactly right on this.

01:03:06.000 I think it's a huge driver in depression and suicide, especially teen suicide.

01:03:12.000 So it used to be that, and Scott Adams talks about this on his podcast as well, that it used to be that you're sort of the pool of people that you compared yourself to was your town, was your hometown, was your workplace, was your school, your work site, whatever it was.

01:03:26.000 Yeah, your family, your intermediate family, the people you interacted with on a regular basis.

01:03:30.000 And that's how for all of human civilization, we have essentially grown and developed.

01:03:37.000 However, now through social media, you sort of are bombarded with this highlight reel.

01:03:43.000 And people have said this, even Aaron Rodgers once said this, that social media is like the highlights reel of life.

01:03:49.000 And it is in many ways, but at the same time, you're also constantly comparing yourself to other people that you see that are, so it leads to, and people talked about this.

01:04:00.000 I think we talked about it here on the show once, where on dating apps now, it is so hard for, if you're like a guy under, you know, I think OKCupid was one of the ones that put out these charts at one point that it's so hard for guys below like a certain, I don't know, level to be able to, like, like 1% of guys get like 80% of the girls on social, on these dating apps.

01:04:22.000 No, obviously I was on the 1%.

01:04:23.000 No, I'm just kidding.

01:04:25.000 But the idea being that you're constantly having to compete with a much wider pool in the same way that you're now competing with an almost universal global pool for all of these things, for family, for vacations, for kids, who's got the best pictures.

01:04:39.000 It's a constant competition that's going on.

01:04:42.000 Whether you realize it or not, you're doing so subliminally while you're going through Instagram, while you're going through TikTok, TikTok.

01:04:50.000 That's what's going on as you're looking through these images.

01:04:54.000 So we're talking about major, you know, we got to go soon, but yeah.

01:04:57.000 Soon, but we have to talk about something really immoral and bad.

01:04:59.000 And it's not dinks. 0.69

01:05:00.000 Florida State. 0.66

01:05:01.000 It's the worst thing possible.

01:05:02.000 They didn't let Florida State into the playoff.

01:05:05.000 Is college football done here?

01:05:06.000 And the answer, truthfully, is it was done here a long time ago, but you guys were in denial about it.

01:05:12.000 I love college football.

01:05:13.000 The Ducks lost to Washington.

01:05:14.000 Big disappointment.

01:05:15.000 I was worried about it.

01:05:16.000 My worries were confirmed.

01:05:17.000 Washington is a better team.

01:05:19.000 They play better.

01:05:20.000 Who cares about who has more talent if you lose?

01:05:23.000 But no, Florida State should be in the playoff.

01:05:25.000 This is insane.

01:05:26.000 This is absolutely insane.

01:05:28.000 Yeah, but they didn't put them in because college football is a gross, distorted, warped version of what it once was.

01:05:36.000 And it's kind of, I emphasize this because it's actually a weird barrier to, I think, necessary, like actual things we need to do in America.

01:05:44.000 Like, I think a real reason you won't get conservatives at the state level go and like maybe get rid of affirmative action at their colleges or, you know, get rid of all the stuff is they're worried.

01:05:54.000 The NCAA will come in and be like, well, actually, because of you guys are hostile to this or that, you guys can't compete in, you know, the preparation H-bowl brought to you by Tostitos next year.

01:06:05.000 Brought to you by Travis Kelsey.

01:06:06.000 Yeah.

01:06:07.000 And like, this is a real thing.

01:06:08.000 People are obsessed with college football.

01:06:10.000 And I get it.

01:06:11.000 You like the team, but it's weird and creepy where we're still this addicted to what is essentially just a semi-pro football league where the players get paid and they can freely sign with a different team and we'll call it a transfer.

01:06:25.000 And we do all this and we're still pretending that they're student athletes.

01:06:28.000 Just no, just call a team, the Alabama Crimson Tide and have them play in Tuscaloosa.

01:06:33.000 And they're a semi-pro league that plays their players to achieve.

01:06:36.000 That's effective.

01:06:37.000 That's effectively where we're at.

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THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 24 — DINKS and SINKS? Taylor Swift: Person of the Year?

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