The Charlie Kirk Show - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 26 — CalendarGate Catastrophe? Who Wins a Civil War? Thoughtcrime of the Year?

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00:03:08.000 Okay, everybody.

00:03:10.000 Happy Thursday.

00:03:11.000 It is the last Thought Crime of the Year.

00:03:13.000 We have Tyler Boyer with his hat that was supposed to be at America Fest.

00:03:17.000 It's our precinct sheriff hat.

00:03:19.000 And you're not a precinct sheriff of your precinct unless you have this hat.

00:03:25.000 So, Charlie, here's your hat.

00:03:26.000 Oh, I got to wear one.

00:03:27.000 No, you don't have to wear it.

00:03:30.000 And Blake.

00:03:31.000 I got one for you guys, too.

00:03:32.000 Blake, I think your vitamin D level is negative now, Blake.

00:03:37.000 Well, yeah, basically.

00:03:38.000 We're in the Dakotas.

00:03:39.000 We're called the sunshine.

00:03:40.000 I think you have a negative five vitamin D level.

00:03:42.000 It's actually, you've blended into the wall.

00:03:46.000 Congrats.

00:03:47.000 You live in Arizona, though.

00:03:49.000 Yeah, but you can't actually go outside in Arizona because the sun is a laser beam that will kill you.

00:03:55.000 I did the entire time I was there.

00:03:55.000 I did.

00:03:57.000 You enjoyed it too, didn't you, Jack?

00:03:59.000 There you go.

00:03:59.000 Jack was tan.

00:04:00.000 I know.

00:04:01.000 Jack got a tan in like the five minutes he was out.

00:04:03.000 Jack, did you go down to St. Croix or something to see Joe Biden?

00:04:08.000 Look, Charlie, how I spent my Christmas vacation, that's between me, the Lord, and my family.

00:04:13.000 All right.

00:04:13.000 That's all.

00:04:14.000 Yes, I would tell you.

00:04:15.000 I have this incredible urge to bobble, like Ron DeSantis.

00:04:19.000 Yeah, you credit it.

00:04:20.000 It's like never turning.

00:04:23.000 I have this just irresistible urge to just bobble the whole time.

00:04:26.000 How does DeSantis do this without getting a headache?

00:04:28.000 If he was a precinct sheriff, he'd be in better shape in the polls.

00:04:32.000 Well, he could be a precinct sheriff.

00:04:33.000 I mean, he'll need something to do next year.

00:04:36.000 He could be the precinct committeeman in Tallahassee.

00:04:38.000 Or be a precinct committee.

00:04:38.000 Yes.

00:04:40.000 I wouldn't trust the governor that's not a precinct committee man.

00:04:43.000 So let's get into it.

00:04:45.000 So we're going to cover some controversial stuff.

00:04:48.000 I can't get over these hats.

00:04:51.000 We'll be doing, wait, we're doing the breaking news first.

00:04:54.000 Yeah, I know, I know, I know.

00:04:55.000 But everyone wants us to cover calendar gate, so we will get to that.

00:04:59.000 But first, let's get to the breaking news.

00:05:01.000 Jack, what's going on in Maine?

00:05:03.000 Actually, let's throw that to Blake because I think he's got it set up already.

00:05:06.000 All righty.

00:05:07.000 I'll take care of it.

00:05:07.000 All righty.

00:05:08.000 So just breaking in the last about an hour ago, the Secretary of State, Shenna Bellows, unilaterally kicked Donald Trump off the ballot in Maine, declaring him an insurrectionist who is not allowed under the 14th Amendment.

00:05:24.000 This was not a state a lot of people were watching.

00:05:26.000 Obviously, there's been legal challenges in a lot of states.

00:05:30.000 Colorado already took Trump off.

00:05:32.000 The Michigan Supreme Court, which is Democrat-controlled, declined to kick Trump off.

00:05:37.000 They kept him on it.

00:05:39.000 And then you have a few lawsuits in other places, but there was not a lot of attention on Maine.

00:05:44.000 But apparently, just a few days ago, they had just a hearing about it because some people brought a complaint.

00:05:51.000 And then the Secretary of State, who was appointed by the legislature there to, so this woman was just appointed by the Democrat-controlled legislature, and she just unilaterally announced that Donald Trump is an insurrectionist, so he's not allowed on the Maine ballot.

00:06:05.000 Yeah, so this is breaking literally in the last couple of minutes.

00:06:08.000 I think we might be the only show live right now, Jack, that is covering this.

00:06:12.000 And when I probably, yeah.

00:06:14.000 So, so, Jack, this is now a pattern.

00:06:16.000 We have Colorado, we have Maine, but Colorado, we're good on right now.

00:06:22.000 Well, yeah, sort of I mean, it depends on what the U.S. Supreme Court does.

00:06:25.000 Yeah, but here's the deal.

00:06:26.000 This is where we talked about all this.

00:06:28.000 They can throw him off the primary ballot.

00:06:32.000 And then they're just going to host all of these things in caucus format, right?

00:06:39.000 Which then it doesn't matter.

00:06:41.000 What the RNC then has to do is they have to honor by their rules the winner of whatever the Republican Party is.

00:06:47.000 So yeah, so that's a good, that's a good point, Tyler.

00:06:49.000 I haven't heard anyone pack and you're equipped to do this.

00:06:52.000 How should the RNC be responding to these volleys, these salvos?

00:06:57.000 It's the second state. 1.00

00:06:58.000 So the fact that the RNC isn't more vocal about this, I mean, you would think that this would be like a slam dunk for the RNC chair to be out every single day and just be like, this is stupid. 1.00

00:07:08.000 This is stupid. 1.00

00:07:09.000 I'll tell you why it's stupid because you'll just hold caucuses and then the RNC is going to nominate our presidential candidate. 1.00

00:07:15.000 And then what are you going to do? 0.96

00:07:16.000 You're going to keep him off the ballot and the Supreme Court's going to be like, no, this is an angel tradition that we've done since the beginning of time where each of the parties nominates a candidate and then they'll go.

00:07:26.000 Now, the fact that the RNC isn't coming out and talking about this more vocally is exactly why people are losing their minds going, oh my gosh, the RNC is in on it to try to keep Trump off the ballot.

00:07:37.000 Yeah, they're suspiciously quiet.

00:07:39.000 The fact that you guys are having this serious discussion in those hats.

00:07:44.000 No, it's amazing.

00:07:46.000 What do you mean?

00:07:46.000 This is a serious thing.

00:07:48.000 The bigger your hat, the bigger your hat, the bigger the share.

00:07:51.000 Are you not a precinct committee?

00:07:52.000 Bigger the issue.

00:07:53.000 By the way, I'm so excited.

00:07:54.000 I am not.

00:07:55.000 Where's my head?

00:07:57.000 I thought just now you don't want to say their name.

00:08:01.000 Our state was going to be giving me one.

00:08:03.000 Our vision was at America Fest to have thousands of people with these hats on that have signed up to be precinct committee men.

00:08:09.000 Could you imagine?

00:08:10.000 It would have been just people walking around with these things.

00:08:14.000 We're going to make this the uniform in Trump's second term.

00:08:18.000 Everyone in the White House will have to wear that.

00:08:19.000 No, that was the vision at all times.

00:08:22.000 This was our team's vision too at Turning Point Action was no more MAGA hats.

00:08:26.000 We need big foam cowboy hats. 0.56

00:08:28.000 No, that you could just bigger MAGA hats.

00:08:30.000 So bigger MAGA hats than ever.

00:08:32.000 Big hat energy.

00:08:33.000 Actually, bigger than ever.

00:08:36.000 Turning point's original pitch was actually to just get these hats for everyone in America.

00:08:40.000 It wasn't even about politics initially.

00:08:42.000 Yeah, it's what it's what Foster was.

00:08:44.000 This is before this is before big.

00:08:47.000 This is before socialist.

00:08:49.000 He would love these hats.

00:08:50.000 He would love Foster would totally be wearing these.

00:08:52.000 Oh, yeah.

00:08:53.000 We would have a custom one that said Foster.

00:08:55.000 Oh, no.

00:08:56.000 Foster would have been wearing this round.

00:08:57.000 All right.

00:08:57.000 So, Jack, for those of us that don't do this for a living, well, I guess we do, but in the audience where they have, you know, nice, purposeful, deep lives that don't involve following politics for 18 hours a day.

00:09:11.000 Walk us through Colorado, Michigan, Maine.

00:09:14.000 What are the facts?

00:09:15.000 Well, okay, so here's some of the facts on this.

00:09:18.000 So Colorado, this one, it's kind of in abeyance right now.

00:09:22.000 So Colorado, we know, unilaterally stripped Trump off the ballot by their Supreme Court decision, the Supreme Court, a whole bunch of Democrats up there.

00:09:32.000 I think it later came out that it was a Blake Kirk Room 7-2 decision.

00:09:37.000 In Colorado?

00:09:39.000 Colorado.

00:09:40.000 In Colorado, a 4-3, despite it being an all-Democratic court.

00:09:44.000 Right, 4-3.

00:09:45.000 Gotcha.

00:09:46.000 I'm thinking Supreme Court.

00:09:48.000 Right.

00:09:48.000 You're right.

00:09:48.000 4-3 decision.

00:09:50.000 All Democrats, where some people were stridently against it.

00:09:54.000 A lot of people were for it.

00:09:55.000 So they stripped Trump from the ballot by the Democrat Supreme Court of Colorado.

00:09:59.000 However, this has been appealed to the Supreme Court.

00:10:02.000 And because they are taking it up, currently, as it stands, as we are live today is December 28th, 2023.

00:10:11.000 I know, Domini, that the Colorado Secretary of State has stated that Trump will remain on the ballot until the Supreme Court decision comes out.

00:10:23.000 The big issue here, right?

00:10:25.000 The big issue that's coming in with all of this is that these primary elections are beginning to come up.

00:10:32.000 The calendar is coming.

00:10:33.000 Now, Charlie, you and I chatted about this before, but we just need to have a spreadsheet.

00:10:38.000 We just need to have a spreadsheet of like each now.

00:10:40.000 First, it's the court cases, and then it's going to be Trump's status on the ballot state by state.

00:10:46.000 So everyone knows Iowa, which is two weeks away.

00:10:49.000 Okay.

00:10:49.000 So the 2024 election is not 10 months away.

00:10:52.000 It's two weeks away are when the first votes actually start being cast in the 2024 election.

00:10:56.000 Two weeks in Iowa.

00:10:58.000 I will be there.

00:10:59.000 We'll be live.

00:10:59.000 We'll be doing the whole thing.

00:11:01.000 Charlie, I know you'll be live.

00:11:02.000 We'll do something.

00:11:03.000 Yeah, we're not going to, we're going to be here.

00:11:06.000 I'm done the caucus thing.

00:11:07.000 You'll be there.

00:11:07.000 No, no, no, no.

00:11:08.000 I'm not here in Arizona.

00:11:09.000 Let me be very clear.

00:11:10.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:11:10.000 You'll be in Arizona.

00:11:11.000 I'll not be in Iowa.

00:11:12.000 I've done that before.

00:11:12.000 I did it in 16.

00:11:13.000 You know, you do it once.

00:11:14.000 That's fine.

00:11:15.000 But no, keep going, Jack.

00:11:16.000 The timeline's important.

00:11:17.000 So the main primary is coming up, though.

00:11:21.000 Yes.

00:11:21.000 The main primary is very close.

00:11:23.000 The main primary is May is March.

00:11:25.000 So you're talking about only a couple of months now where the Trump campaign.

00:11:29.000 And look, I hate to say it, guys, but you need to, you need to start to have a legal strategy.

00:11:39.000 You need to start to have a legal strategy to put forward in terms of just basically every state.

00:11:44.000 You need to have a spread.

00:11:45.000 You need a spreadsheet up of when the primary is and what the status of the ballot is.

00:11:52.000 And then also cross-reference that legal challenges.

00:11:55.000 So, Charlie, and as you're saying, they are just going to keep doing this throughout the entire year.

00:12:00.000 And what they're going to try to do is time it so that you will have Trump stripped from the ballot without enough time for him to fight it in court in terms of when the primary date actually takes place.

00:12:12.000 Guys, you're talking about this is as if this was a democracy, okay?

00:12:17.000 This isn't a democracy.

00:12:19.000 This is how this works.

00:12:20.000 And by the way, in Michigan, just because you asked, it was rejected.

00:12:26.000 So, the Michigan court rejected the appeal to disqualify Trump from the ballot.

00:12:29.000 But, guys, let me walk you through this very consistently, okay?

00:12:34.000 If they try to keep him off the primary ballot, the state party of that state will hold a caucus.

00:12:40.000 The caucus is how they determine how delegates are sent to the RNC convention.

00:12:45.000 The RNC convention is how we nominate a president.

00:12:48.000 Once the president is nominated, you're not electing a president in the general ballot.

00:12:53.000 You're electing who?

00:12:55.000 Your electors.

00:12:56.000 Electors.

00:12:57.000 And electors are the ones that go to Congress to say they cast their ballot for this person for president, right?

00:13:05.000 So that's who gets put in front of Congress.

00:13:08.000 So the crisis that will exist will not be.

00:13:12.000 So this is where it comes back to Mike Pence, right?

00:13:15.000 So Mike Pence.

00:13:16.000 And this is what their hope is.

00:13:18.000 You want to talk about, you know, radicalism and throwing people in jail.

00:13:23.000 Imagine this.

00:13:24.000 They would have to put in front of Kamala, right?

00:13:28.000 So all the screaming and all the bat crap crazy stuff that they've been screaming about about Trump trying to overturn an election.

00:13:37.000 It would have to go to the vice president that would identify whether or not to accept the election still have that power.

00:13:45.000 I think they got rid of it, didn't they, Blake?

00:13:46.000 Like, didn't they strip it in the voting cut?

00:13:48.000 I think they're right.

00:13:50.000 I think their new bill makes it, their new bill makes it more explicit that the vice president's role is like a ceremonial role.

00:13:57.000 They are not counting judgments.

00:13:59.000 So they just, they just did themselves in.

00:14:01.000 So that option is technically off the table by their own admission, right?

00:14:06.000 So at this point, then it would be a Republican.

00:14:10.000 Yeah, I mean, they could decide not to print Trump's name on the ballot, but you still have to print the name of the electors on the ballot who they're technically voting for to send to Congress.

00:14:21.000 So it's much more complicated.

00:14:24.000 I think we might be getting ahead of things because I think the most likely outcome is just that this will go to the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court will smack it down.

00:14:31.000 And then once the Supreme Court smacks it down, they can't really just ignore it without nakedly inviting like a serious civil disruption, which that is our second topic if we want to get into it.

00:14:43.000 Blake, before we go there, let me ask you this just to follow up.

00:14:46.000 So if the Supreme Court does rule, and I think it's a given, the Supreme Court's going to rule in one of these quickly, the question is, will that be a blanket summary judgment or will they try to continue to find other ways to keep bringing this up?

00:15:03.000 That we'll have to wait and see.

00:15:04.000 I feel like the first pass, it's pretty likely the Supreme Court might pretty quickly say no, and they'll find some way to dismiss it.

00:15:12.000 But if this is getting, you know, if it's clearly taking over the whole election, I think there will be more pressure on the Supreme Court to issue a relatively firm ruling on it, which I think, you know, the Supreme Court always under John Roberts likes to mostly do what's safe.

00:15:29.000 And I feel like the safe thing for Roberts to do is to say, no, you can't say someone is an insurrectionist unless they're literally convicted of the crime of insurrection or some set of offenses.

00:15:41.000 And here's the surprise, guys.

00:15:43.000 What if Jack Smith slaps on an insurrection conviction in the next 10 to 15 days?

00:15:47.000 Right.

00:15:48.000 And not to say conviction, not indictment.

00:15:50.000 Indictment, not conviction.

00:15:52.000 Indictment, not conviction.

00:15:53.000 Yeah, I'm sorry.

00:15:54.000 But if he slaps that on, which by the way, what's her face from Chicago?

00:15:59.000 Kelly, Julie Kelly, thinks it's in the works.

00:16:01.000 What do you think, Tyler?

00:16:02.000 Well, I think that the entire game plan here, what they were trying to, what they're trying to goad us into, was for a Republican Party to accept this.

00:16:11.000 Because once a Republican Party accepts this, then what it does is then it puts pressure on the RNC to accept it.

00:16:19.000 And once the RNC accepts it, then the RNC has to try to make it.

00:16:23.000 They're trying to force a move before the RNC convention, right?

00:16:27.000 And so I think ultimately what is not going to happen is that they're not going to fall for this.

00:16:33.000 I can tell you that like Ron is like shaking in her boots right now.

00:16:36.000 She's not going to be like playing games here of like going along with removing Trump.

00:16:42.000 And I can tell you this on the RNC.

00:16:44.000 I've seen, I'm in all the chats.

00:16:46.000 I see all the back and forth.

00:16:48.000 There is not one state party that's going to go along with kicking Trump off the primary ballot.

00:16:52.000 There's just not.

00:16:54.000 And I think that's what that was their hope, though.

00:16:55.000 I think their hope was like, oh, let's try to dabble in some of these states where Trump may not be super popular and see if we can go to state party into kicking him off the ballot and they'll go along with it.

00:17:06.000 Because then if there's three or four or five states that do it, now you have a real problem on your hands if you're the RNC, right?

00:17:12.000 Because the RNC has basically an insurrection vis-a-vis an insurrection, right?

00:17:19.000 So that's a, that, that was, I think, what we tried to, we didn't take the bait.

00:17:23.000 We already, we clearly haven't taken the bait.

00:17:25.000 Yeah, he's up way, way more than they ever expect him to be.

00:17:28.000 And that's where we're at.

00:17:30.000 Yeah.

00:17:30.000 And I guess I will say, Blake, yeah.

00:17:33.000 If they, if the Democrats thought this out more, they would have tried to bribe everyone in the GOP with a giant foam hat before attempting because I would probably give an even bigger hat.

00:17:47.000 Here's to throw out there.

00:17:50.000 And obviously, you know, when I want all the Trump lawyers, Alina Haba and everyone to be wearing hats like this in court, particularly within before the Supreme Court when this goes up.

00:18:00.000 But Blake, isn't there an argument to be made that I've seen some people circulating this already, that the 14th Amendment doesn't even apply to the president because they're talking about specific offices and obviously that the president is covered under impeachment.

00:18:18.000 It's an argument.

00:18:19.000 So the literal text of the 14th Amendment says, let's bring it up here real quick.

00:18:24.000 Just right here.

00:18:25.000 Make sure it's exactly right.

00:18:26.000 And that's right.

00:18:27.000 In my turning point USA Constitution.

00:18:30.000 Because that's engineering out for it.

00:18:34.000 Is that section three or four?

00:18:35.000 I think it's section three, right?

00:18:36.000 Yeah.

00:18:37.000 No, no person shall be senator or representative in Congress or elector of president and vice president, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States or under any state who have previously taken an oath as a member of Congress or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state to support the Constitution Of the United States,

00:19:05.000 shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.

00:19:11.000 But Congress may by a two-third vote of each house remove such disability.

00:19:16.000 Okay.

00:19:16.000 So there's Colorado real quick was that they held, right, the court in Colorado at the trial court level, which was a Democrat appointed justice, held that based on what you just read, Charlie, this does not apply to the president.

00:19:31.000 That's what the court held at the lowest level there.

00:19:34.000 The argument is essentially that officer of the United States means like a created position within the executive branch.

00:19:42.000 Yeah.

00:19:43.000 Whereas the president is not an officer of.

00:19:46.000 It is a literal constitutional position and not actually called an officer.

00:19:51.000 I think you can kind of go either way on that.

00:19:55.000 I know that I glanced at the ruling and they dig into the argument that the president is considered an officer of the United States. 0.94

00:20:03.000 I don't think as far as terrible reasoning in that ruling goes, I don't, that didn't stand out to me as something that just seemed incredibly dumb.

00:20:12.000 I think you could make the argument.

00:20:13.000 I do think, like, at a minimum, politically, Trump getting away with it by just saying, I did insurrection, but I wasn't actually an officer of the United States, so it's okay, is not a strong position to be in.

00:20:26.000 It's not the argument you want to carry the day.

00:20:28.000 What you want is to say, this is BS because, you know, there's a million reasons it's BS.

00:20:33.000 And you want to focus on that rather than it's, you know, it's kind of angle shooting on a technicality to say he's not.

00:20:39.000 But you don't, you don't, but that's the point, though, is if it doesn't apply to the president, then you don't even need to necessarily get into the insurrection side.

00:20:46.000 And that's why I say that for the Supreme Court, this could just be an easy out for them to say, well, we don't want to get into the insurrection question, but we can just get simply get into the textual question of whether or not it applies to the president.

00:20:59.000 And they can't do that.

00:21:00.000 That is possible.

00:21:02.000 You might get the Supreme Court willing to do that.

00:21:04.000 I don't think it would be politically ideal for Trump because it would be accurate then to say that he got off on a technicality.

00:21:11.000 And that wouldn't be good for us, I don't think.

00:21:14.000 I mean, I think if he's off, he's off.

00:21:16.000 Well, first of all, he's possible.

00:21:19.000 It all makes sense.

00:21:20.000 And this is why what we were accused of as nitpicking on words, Jack and I, especially Jack, actually has legal significance.

00:21:29.000 We were always taken back by the fixation on the word insurrection.

00:21:36.000 It wasn't a mistake.

00:21:37.000 It was by design.

00:21:38.000 It was to set the narrative war, set the op-ed industry so that a secretary of state says, well, I've been hearing about insurrection for the last couple of years.

00:21:48.000 And here we are.

00:21:49.000 Even though, Jack, how many people have been even indicted for insurrection?

00:21:55.000 What, currently?

00:21:56.000 Since January 6th?

00:21:58.000 Zero.

00:21:59.000 Seditious conspiracy is it.

00:22:00.000 And even that was a huge conspiracy.

00:22:05.000 Yeah, it's not at all clear whether or not there was a seditious conspiracy, especially when most of the people that were convicted of that were not actually in the Capitol on January 6th.

00:22:18.000 So I suppose, you know, kind of to put a cap on this, guys, and then we can kind of get into the next couple of topics.

00:22:26.000 Can we anticipate more states to follow suit California before the Supreme Court comes in?

00:22:31.000 And is it, here's the question, Blake.

00:22:33.000 What if the Supreme Court is indifferent?

00:22:36.000 What if the Supreme Court says, states, you guys decide yourself?

00:22:41.000 That it would definitely, I think, just be disastrous for the country because I think what you would immediately get is well, obviously you'd just get retaliation by red states. 0.98

00:22:51.000 We would just start kicking Biden off the ballot.

00:22:54.000 And at that point, I mean, why even have an election?

00:22:57.000 You're really just, you're just totally throwing it into chaos.

00:23:00.000 You would never be able to hold a presidential vote that anyone would regard seriously.

00:23:05.000 You can't have an accurate popular vote in any measure at all.

00:23:10.000 It would just, it would be functionally impossible to have a real election.

00:23:13.000 No one would accept the final result.

00:23:14.000 It would be a huge abdication of the Supreme Court to allow that to hold.

00:23:18.000 They basically either have to say Trump did insurrection and he's off, or Trump did not do insurrection and you can't do this.

00:23:25.000 Like either of those choices would be better than just abdicating, to be honest.

00:23:31.000 So we should look at Super Tuesday.

00:23:33.000 I would say Super Tuesday, I have it here.

00:23:36.000 Alabama, Alaska, Samoa, Arkansas, California is part of Super Tuesday.

00:23:41.000 Colorado, Iowa, Maine, Massachusetts, Minnesota, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia.

00:23:48.000 Look, I think Colorado is the big next one.

00:23:50.000 I really do.

00:23:50.000 Even though Gavin Newsom did publicly say he'd be against it because he's running for president.

00:23:56.000 Yeah, and California is significant.

00:23:58.000 That would be logistically hard, Tyler, to get to a caucus in California.

00:24:01.000 It's massive.

00:24:02.000 It's huge.

00:24:02.000 I think logistically that would be tough.

00:24:05.000 Yeah, but I think.

00:24:07.000 I mean, I think deep down with Newsom and all, I think a lot of Democrats realize this has excellent possibility to really backfire on them because one, it's not a great look to have any, you know, a Democrat official unilaterally kicking Trump off the ballot.

00:24:25.000 That's not good.

00:24:26.000 And then on top of that, again, this is likely to just be resolved by the Supreme Court in Trump's favor.

00:24:32.000 And I think a lot of them realize it.

00:24:33.000 A lot of them probably think we can do this as a defiant, you know, FU to Trump because the Supreme Court will like, you know, throw it out.

00:24:41.000 And so we don't have to be held accountable for the insane things we're doing.

00:24:44.000 I think this is a real thing.

00:24:45.000 It's three-dimensional too, too, Blake, because they also, they know the Supreme Court is likely to overturn them, but they want to also deteriorate trust in the Supreme Court, of which is what's also true and everything else.

00:25:00.000 Exactly.

00:25:01.000 But I really think about the Trump court saved him.

00:25:05.000 Have you seen the YouTube ads that they're running on the Supreme Court?

00:25:08.000 No, we don't live in DC.

00:25:09.000 It's constant.

00:25:10.000 It's like, okay, so indeed.

00:25:12.000 You're micro-targeted.

00:25:14.000 Yeah, you're micro-targeted.

00:25:15.000 So I see all of it.

00:25:17.000 And it's all Supreme Court is about to strip.

00:25:19.000 The Supreme Court has stripped women of their rights. 0.97

00:25:22.000 The Supreme Court has, you know, allowed or they're basically telling you that the Supreme Court has illegalized, you know, criminalized abortion in the United States, that the Supreme Court's out of control.

00:25:33.000 And it's, I'm telling you, it is like every other YouTube ad in DC, which means the liberals of the liberals are getting this.

00:25:42.000 I think that it's clearly going to be a huge part of the Democrat playbook going into 24.

00:25:48.000 We know there's a lot of initiatives that are already coming up for this.

00:25:51.000 We talked about it.

00:25:52.000 But I got to say, you know, when I look at, it's kind of like what we talked about last week, about how Blake was telling that story about, you know, when they put up the pro-life crosses and some lib just came and ran it over with their car.

00:26:04.000 You know, the Democrats are willing to do this in this country.

00:26:07.000 They'll just unilaterally strip you from the ballot.

00:26:09.000 They say, yeah, you're right.

00:26:10.000 You're done.

00:26:11.000 And Republicans will meanwhile sitting back in Vaporlock going like, oh, no, what if we ever do something?

00:26:16.000 Oh, no.

00:26:17.000 And that gets us into top, like, we were actually going to talk about this even before the main news broke, but it makes it far more, it stands out more.

00:26:26.000 So there's a lot of articles just in the last couple weeks even, like, is America headed towards a civil war?

00:26:33.000 Is America going to just permanently break apart?

00:26:36.000 And obviously there's that movie that's coming out in the spring, which we talked about last time.

00:26:40.000 So setting aside whether a civil war will happen, the topic we wanted to have to close the year is which side would win a civil war?

00:26:51.000 And I kind of wonder if we're even going to disagree on this one.

00:26:56.000 So let's define the parameters of the civil war.

00:27:01.000 So Blake, just throw out the scenario that you're talking about here.

00:27:04.000 Because in the movie, it's like only two states versus the government.

00:27:07.000 It's like not really clear.

00:27:08.000 The movie is all bizarre because they have to make it. 0.95

00:27:12.000 The new movie is dumb because it has to be like anti-Trump, but they can't say Trump. 0.95

00:27:16.000 So it's, yeah, California and Texas are united and there's a Florida alliance and it's like a three or four way civil war. 1.00

00:27:23.000 It's all very dumb. 0.98

00:27:25.000 And they just are kind of making it up as they go. 0.98

00:27:27.000 I think, you know, if we want the most reasonable one, let's actually, let's imagine the one where the Supreme Court, you know, abdicates itself from the results.

00:27:37.000 So we have this kind of bogus election where Biden isn't on the ballot in 15 states and Trump isn't on the ballot in 15 states.

00:27:45.000 And there's a bunch of shady crap that goes on even in the states where they're both on the ballot.

00:27:50.000 And let's say giant pile of dust and you can't even really tell who won, but somehow, you know, the powers that be say, oh, actually, Joe Biden got reelected and you have to deal with it and accept it. 0.90

00:28:02.000 Or even vice versa.

00:28:03.000 Let's say Trump gets elected again and a lot of blue states just flip out and say, nope, we're literally not accepting this.

00:28:11.000 And they convene a convention of a convention to secede, actually, which they talked about doing in 2020.

00:28:19.000 So let's just say they did that again.

00:28:22.000 And then you'd kind of have, you'd have a situation where there's a disputed presidency and where you would go from there is difficult to imagine, to be honest.

00:28:33.000 People will talk willy-nilly about a civil war, but I think the first thing you have to grasp is it's so difficult to envision what the battle lines would be.

00:28:40.000 You know, in 1860, a civil war is South Carolina secedes, Virginia secedes, and 80 plus percent of the state's population basically goes along with it and is even willing to fight over it.

00:28:53.000 But the number of states where you even get over 70% for one presidential candidate is not very high, let alone people who are literally willing to like shoot anyone over a political question in the U.S.

00:29:04.000 And, you know, I don't think you could assume every military unit would go a certain way or even every police department.

00:29:11.000 It just seems incredibly chaotic.

00:29:13.000 Well, what you're saying is that it's not as clean or, you know, as it was in the most, when we think, when we mentioned Civil War, people want to go back to 1860 and talk about the situation at the time.

00:29:25.000 But in 1860, you had state militias that were that were organized.

00:29:31.000 You had National Guard units that were directly targeted to the state.

00:29:34.000 And we still have that, obviously.

00:29:35.000 But you even had full-on military units that were the state they were domiciled in was the state where everybody was from.

00:29:43.000 And so you had this clean split on, oh yeah, we should get into the Nikki Haley bit, right?

00:29:48.000 You know, was it about slavery?

00:29:50.000 Right.

00:29:50.000 You know, obviously there was a state rights argument on the issue of slavery, clearly.

00:29:56.000 And what should be done with it?

00:29:58.000 And so today, today it's not like that.

00:30:00.000 Just to summarize, it's everything is mixed up.

00:30:04.000 Yeah, it's super mixed up.

00:30:05.000 And so what that would lead into, in my opinion, is if you imagine any sort of violent civil conflict in America, what's going to immediately stand out as important is literally who gets organized more quickly.

00:30:18.000 So who is able to figure out who is on our side?

00:30:22.000 Where do we need to go?

00:30:23.000 What do we need to do to assert ourselves?

00:30:25.000 And I'll be honest, I feel like the obvious answer to that is the left.

00:30:30.000 Like there's going to be way more institutions in America that can just assume they are 95 to 100% aligned with what the left wants.

00:30:39.000 And then they can muster those institutions to do things that they want.

00:30:43.000 You know, every university in America, most like big city local governments are going to be like this.

00:30:50.000 Large, you know, entire departments of the federal government will be like this.

00:30:55.000 And then on top of that, they still have, you know, relatively experienced, you know, street agitators like Antifa and all of that.

00:31:02.000 And when you compare this to, you know, if you've ever been at some barbecue with conservatives where they'll just think like, yeah, you know, they'll, they'll try to pick a fight, but we own all the guns.

00:31:12.000 And I would just say owning all of the guns is not that useful against owning all of the organization, for lack of a better term.

00:31:21.000 Well, and you also, I mean, you have this question of which side is more willing to use violence.

00:31:27.000 And I mentioned this on the space that I was on last night, which went totally nuts.

00:31:31.000 But, you know, Blake, you and I were co-hosting the Chronicles of the Revolution, which has been just racing up the charts this whole week.

00:31:39.000 We did France on Monday.

00:31:41.000 We did Russia yesterday.

00:31:44.000 Today is Franco Thursday. 0.51

00:31:46.000 We're, you know, we're all about Franco.

00:31:47.000 Tomorrow we're doing the 1960s in the United States.

00:31:51.000 And one of the key sides of this is that you see the left is like almost always the first one that's willing to use violence.

00:31:58.000 And we also, what did we see over the weekend?

00:32:01.000 The left was able to shut down elements of the left, were able to shut down for a time, both JFK and LAX this weekend, Christmas weekend.

00:32:11.000 So one of the most traveled weekends of the entire year, the two largest by far airports and traffic hubs, transportation hubs of the entire country were shut down by leftists.

00:32:23.000 And I mean, look at the strategy they used of hitting the expressway, going into JFK.

00:32:29.000 So again, looking at those critical choke points, these were paramilitary style operations, which I would argue are being used as testing or, you know, testing situation stress tests on our systems going into 2024.

00:32:44.000 And you see the left doing this with impunity in various parts of the country.

00:32:47.000 And it's clearly organized.

00:32:49.000 I'm sure they'll say, oh, this is in the name of Palestine, just like it was in the name of George Floyd, just like it was in the name of whatever before that, you know, Ferguson, Michael Brown, or Freddie Gray in Baltimore.

00:33:00.000 It doesn't, the cause doesn't matter.

00:33:02.000 The fact of the matter is they're, they are organized and they're willing to use violence, whereas the right is always kind of, like I just said before, in Vaporlock on a lot of this stuff.

00:33:11.000 Yeah.

00:33:11.000 And I just, I, a couple of we had people actually showed up in Kenochia.

00:33:16.000 Yeah.

00:33:16.000 And I mean, just a couple things.

00:33:18.000 I first, what, what would it look?

00:33:20.000 I mean, what I think people mean by civil war, Blake, I just think they mean pockets of mass chaos.

00:33:25.000 I don't think there would be, in our lifetime, some sort of unified resistance or sort of army that would come together.

00:33:33.000 And I mean, we're having trouble getting people to knock on doors.

00:33:37.000 I mean, you think all of a sudden we're going to get people to take up arms?

00:33:40.000 Like, okay.

00:33:42.000 I mean, theoretically, if this actually were to happen.

00:33:46.000 So, but secondly, who would win in this scenario, Blake?

00:33:50.000 I mean, yeah, they have drones.

00:33:54.000 And by the way, I love when people say the military would never fire upon Americans.

00:33:58.000 Of course they would.

00:33:59.000 Yeah, they would.

00:34:01.000 They absolutely would.

00:34:02.000 And by the way, do you guys know?

00:34:03.000 Did you not watch January 6th?

00:34:04.000 Well, yeah, obviously.

00:34:05.000 It's almost disturbing how eager they are to do it.

00:34:08.000 They're chomping at the risk to do this.

00:34:11.000 They're fantasize about this. 0.98

00:34:12.000 If you go to Coronado, go to any military base, they're all gay and lesbian and trans. 0.97

00:34:17.000 And if you mispronoun them, you get kick off a flight simulator. 0.69

00:34:19.000 It's not, it's not a joke.

00:34:21.000 I get whistleblowers all the time.

00:34:22.000 I know people right now, Coronado in San Diego, that said, I'm on two-week disciplinary action because I misgendered some freak that was on a flight simulator.

00:34:30.000 And this guy like dreams about being on a drone, you know, terrorizing MAGA Republicans. 0.98

00:34:34.000 By the way, they fantasize talking about killing white people. 0.99

00:34:37.000 So that's the second thing. 0.98

00:34:39.000 But then other people say, well, the police will be on our side.

00:34:41.000 Look, I'm not sure.

00:34:42.000 Is that on the SEAL side or on or a Norwell?

00:34:45.000 Across the board.

00:34:45.000 It's across the board.

00:34:46.000 Across the board.

00:34:47.000 No, no, no, I mean, Coronado.

00:34:48.000 Police are more likely to be.

00:34:50.000 It's a conventional natal base, and then there's also a SEAL base.

00:34:53.000 Yeah.

00:34:54.000 So it is on the conventional naval base, not on not any.

00:34:58.000 I think police would be more viable as like an ally than the military would be.

00:35:04.000 I mean, the military is very bureaucratic.

00:35:05.000 It's very centralized.

00:35:08.000 It's very top-down.

00:35:11.000 I think police departments in general do lean in our favor.

00:35:15.000 And you can tell just a lot of them were very disaffected by 2020, for example.

00:35:22.000 And again, there's lots of small towns that have their own police departments.

00:35:26.000 So you can kind of imagine those being on our side.

00:35:29.000 But that, you know, that makes no sense in the sort of decentralized chaos sort of situation where you would just have, you know, thousands and thousands of rural police officers announcing that they're not going to enforce this or that law or this or that decree from the central government.

00:35:44.000 That might really be what any form of civil conflict would look like.

00:35:48.000 It might just take the form of, you know, Biden wins a super disputed election.

00:35:54.000 And then what if 10 red states just announce, you know, we don't regard Biden as a legitimate president and we are just going to ignore anything that comes out of Washington for the time being.

00:36:04.000 And then, what are you going to do?

00:36:06.000 Now, what is conceivable is if what if very theoretical, if whatever the American right or conservative world had a pocket of actual resistance, if a foreign adversary or like Russia came in and started to actually help that pocket of resistance, then all of a sudden it would be, that would be interesting.

00:36:24.000 But I mean, would you want to accept that?

00:36:25.000 I mean, I don't know.

00:36:26.000 Again, we're talking so hypothetically and theoretically.

00:36:28.000 But honestly, I'm with Blake.

00:36:29.000 I just roll my eyes when people are like, we're going to a civil war and, you know, we have guns and arm up.

00:36:34.000 I'm like, I don't think you have any comprehension of what that even means, how sad that would be, how dark that would be, how irreversible that would be.

00:36:42.000 And in some ways, the bad guys want us to talk like that for some sort of massive power grab.

00:36:47.000 But also on the police side, excuse me when I say I love some police.

00:36:52.000 They were enforcing vaccine mandates.

00:36:54.000 They were arresting pastors.

00:36:56.000 They were arresting girls for not having vaccine passports.

00:37:00.000 Did you not see Minnesota two summers ago?

00:37:02.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:37:03.000 Like Minneapolis.

00:37:04.000 By the way, they just watch when people are looting and burning.

00:37:07.000 And we're supposed to believe.

00:37:08.000 I mean, again, I love our police, but a lot of them follow orders.

00:37:11.000 Well, I have a pension, man.

00:37:13.000 I got a pension.

00:37:14.000 I don't want to, you know, I don't want to resist.

00:37:16.000 And so, look, I don't want to be too dark about it, but if your, let's say, solution is that somehow this is going to get into civil conflict and right-wing America is going to rise up, I think you got to check your premise a little bit.

00:37:32.000 It's magical thinking.

00:37:33.000 It's magical thinking.

00:37:35.000 Oh, and then the real American thinking.

00:37:36.000 Let's just be honest.

00:37:37.000 What would the best case scenario be?

00:37:39.000 The best case scenario would be like a million dead people and an irreconcilable schism of a country where every third person you know is dead and every male under 30 is destroyed and the country's permanently ruined. 0.92

00:37:56.000 That like Ukraine.

00:37:58.000 Why would we like even entertain this idea?

00:38:01.000 I just, I think it's well, a lot of, I would say a very common impulse on the right is I feel like a lot of a lot of conservatives would rather stand on a pile of ashes screaming, I told you so, than actually win, unfortunately.

00:38:01.000 Exactly.

00:38:17.000 But otherwise, I mean, otherwise, I completely agree.

00:38:23.000 I think we should do everything.

00:38:25.000 Yeah, I think the people in charge are inviting it through what they're doing.

00:38:29.000 It's almost like they say we control the electricity, we control the water, we control the internet, we control the drones, we control the nuclear power plants, we control people.

00:38:41.000 It's like, I think it was Spaw Willie who just bragged, like, if you resist, we'll just drop a nuclear bomb on you.

00:38:46.000 There's, there's a lot of people who are.

00:38:48.000 Biden has said that.

00:38:49.000 He's like, what good is a team going to do against a drone?

00:38:52.000 Biden has said that before.

00:38:54.000 Yeah.

00:38:54.000 And then it's funny because we lose wars to a bunch of tribesmen with AK-47s.

00:38:59.000 So.

00:38:59.000 Well, Blake, Blake, actually.

00:39:04.000 I want to ask Blake with this.

00:39:04.000 Hold on.

00:39:05.000 Blake, you talked a lot yesterday on the show about the Russian Revolution and how the whites were just like totally disorganized and they were all over the place. 1.00

00:39:16.000 And when I look at the situation we're talking about, we're like, okay, you might have like a couple of like FOPs here and there, maybe a few National Guard units, this and that thing, but there's no central organizing force.

00:39:28.000 It just reminds me of the Russian loyalists going up against the Red Army.

00:39:33.000 I mean, that's basically what it was turned down to.

00:39:35.000 You have maybe one spot.

00:39:36.000 And then, so how does that?

00:39:38.000 I mean, just think of how much power and importance is just concentrated in Washington, D.C.

00:39:44.000 Okay, who controls Washington, D.C.?

00:39:46.000 Well, you can look at an electoral map and it'll tell you that.

00:39:48.000 And now take that for every major nerve center of the country.

00:39:52.000 And it's like, you know, politically, it is relevant that, you know, we do better in places that are further from the rungs of power.

00:39:59.000 That, you know, that's kind of what makes us a populist movement.

00:40:02.000 It makes us kind of a dissident movement.

00:40:05.000 But it definitely is not great if you want to win any sort of irregular conflict because winning in a regular conflict is based heavily on control of institutions, proximity to sources of power, proximity to sources of legitimacy.

00:40:20.000 And we're massively deficient in all those things.

00:40:23.000 And you just, again, you have boomer cons who cope with this by just like, say, you know, owning 100 guns that they have in their attic.

00:40:32.000 And then it sounds so bizarre.

00:40:35.000 Like, I support it.

00:40:36.000 So, Blake, here's the chat.

00:40:38.000 I like the weapon.

00:40:39.000 But I want to say this, though, because the one thing I would point out, Jack, is that the Russian Revolution happened in a vacuum while World War I was going on.

00:40:49.000 So you had a situation where you didn't, the men weren't there.

00:40:54.000 The white army wasn't there.

00:40:56.000 You had all the loyalists essentially were not there.

00:41:00.000 And it happened in a vacuum and the whole world didn't really even know what was going on at the time.

00:41:04.000 Charlie has a really great point, which is that there's a likelihood that it wouldn't happen in a vacuum.

00:41:10.000 There would be a number of different interests that would show up.

00:41:15.000 And yes, someone in the chat just put, like, yeah, I mean, look at what's going on in Ukraine right now with Russia between Russia and Ukraine.

00:41:21.000 Like, this is not, this would not be a simple, you know, run through the country.

00:41:28.000 You have literally millions of people with guns and divide that's happening in every state, including, including the deep blue states, the, the, you know, the people that would be loyal to that, uh, to the DC.

00:41:41.000 So I don't know.

00:41:42.000 I think it would be really interesting.

00:41:44.000 I think you'd have a couple of resources.

00:41:46.000 I think a lot of outside forces would come in, but I don't know if it would be as simple as, although I do think there's a lot of a ton of analogies to the Russian Revolution where we are at in American history.

00:41:58.000 I think there is a ton.

00:41:59.000 I completely agree with you.

00:42:00.000 We've talked about this a number of different times.

00:42:04.000 I think that's part of the reason why they want to send us to war, to be honest with you, is because, again, it would be easier to do this, right?

00:42:12.000 To dominate a civil war if all our men are gone.

00:42:16.000 And that, to me, is the scariest part of the Ukraine conflict, to be honest with you.

00:42:21.000 Because they know that the people who would get sent to a major conflict, if we did, if one of these did kick off, whether it be China, whether it be Russia, whether it be Iran, whatever like sort of the, you know, the war of the week is Venezuela, I think is probably on the list.

00:42:35.000 That would be sort of, and I'm not going to just necessarily say Trump supporters, but I did say that in a tweet once and it got went like super viral and all the neocons really mad at me.

00:42:46.000 And I was, well, I said don't put it back to them to start a to start a war so they could send all the Trump supporter males off to fight and die so Trump can't win.

00:42:55.000 But what I'm saying is essentially to your point that the military age males who are likely to go and conduct that combat are the same type of people who would participate in a reactionary backstop here in the United States should something like this kick off.

00:43:13.000 And to Charlie's point and your point as well, those are the exact type of people that they'd want to get rid of.

00:43:20.000 Yeah.

00:43:20.000 And I mean, just finally, it would be so I'm afraid that there's a little bit too much of a romantic quality to how people think about this.

00:43:32.000 And again, I haven't actually ever been to a country at war.

00:43:35.000 Jack, you visited Ukraine at war.

00:43:37.000 I visited countries that have been in post-war mode, and it's the worst thing. 0.94

00:43:41.000 It is the worst thing people do.

00:43:43.000 We shouldn't invite it.

00:43:44.000 We should actually actively reject it.

00:43:47.000 It's not fun.

00:43:48.000 It's not lighthearted.

00:43:51.000 And once you cross that delta, there really is no going back.

00:43:54.000 Now, while I say that, I will simultaneously agree, I don't know how we coexist with these 50 million people, or let's just say 20 million people of insane radicals.

00:44:07.000 I don't know, other than there needs to be a live and let live.

00:44:10.000 I'm not going to get into your business.

00:44:11.000 And they don't have to.

00:44:12.000 I don't even think there's that many radicals, though.

00:44:15.000 Okay, so 5 million. 0.60

00:44:16.000 I mean, I know it would suck, but I think they would end up congregating.

00:44:20.000 Yeah, I'm just the people, the people, you know what I'm talking about, Tyler, the people that are forcing me to do pronouns and like that are trying to, you know, swat Jack's home, you know, right?

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00:44:39.000 And I'm not, I, I, I'm on, like, I mean that these are U.S. passport holders.

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00:44:44.000 There's people who are trying to run over the malls last December.

00:44:48.000 No, like, I mean, oh, the person that they're shutting down highways at JFK or the Secretary of State of Maine.

00:44:52.000 I don't know how I can, you know, call them my fellow countrymen.

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00:45:53.000 This was the number one, you want to talk about a civil war.

00:45:55.000 This was a right-wing civil war online yesterday, mostly between women. 1.00

00:46:00.000 Very few men weighed in on this, which actually I think that's probably a good thing because it's just overly cringe to have men comment on hyper-female topics.

00:46:10.000 But here we go, four white men to comment on the most controversial topic of the week.

00:46:17.000 Jack, set the table.

00:46:18.000 What is Calendar Gate?

00:46:21.000 Okay, so Calendar Gate, which is something that I really didn't want to get into this week or talk about in any way, shape, or form.

00:46:30.000 And then I was doing a Twitter spaces again to promote Blake and I's excellent docu series this week, Chronicles of the Revolution, the history, the secret history of leftist uprising around the world.

00:46:42.000 My brother kind of like commandeered the space and turned out that he was in a Twitter war with Seth Weathers all over Calendar Gate.

00:46:51.000 And then everybody involved in Calendar Gate joined the space and basically it just became a two-hour, as you say, full-on civil war over the pinup calendar.

00:47:01.000 Oh, look, here it is.

00:47:03.000 So what is Calendar Gate?

00:47:05.000 So, and I do think that we kept it pretty civil, if I have to say so myself.

00:47:09.000 And since it was my space, I'm going to say that.

00:47:11.000 And again, I'm the one on the microphone right now.

00:47:13.000 So Seth Weathers runs Ultra Right and your, you know, number one dad's conservative beer.

00:47:20.000 People have seen it on Fox News, people see it other places.

00:47:23.000 And they've gotten a lot of press in it.

00:47:24.000 I see them on Daily Mail like all the time.

00:47:27.000 For their, you know, December 2024, they decided, or December of 2023, going into 2024, they decided to put out a yearly calendar.

00:47:36.000 Beer companies do this all the time.

00:47:38.000 But because this is the conservative ultra-right beer, what they decided to then do was get out a calendar of some of the number one conservative female influencers, many of whom, I think all of whom have been on our various shows other than this one, because there are no girls on Thought Crime.

00:47:59.000 And I think, you know, I don't have the list right in front of me.

00:48:04.000 Riley Gaines was on the coverage.

00:48:07.000 I've got some names.

00:48:08.000 We've got...

00:48:09.000 Oh, you've got the name of the game?

00:48:10.000 We've got Riley Gaines.

00:48:11.000 We have Dana Lash, Kim Klashik, Klays.

00:48:15.000 I don't remember how you say her name.

00:48:17.000 Ashley St. Clair, Sarah Gonzalez, Josie the red-headed libertarian.

00:48:22.000 That is how it is listed on the page.

00:48:25.000 Catalina Lauf, Laflaus, Brittany Jean, Bethany Bartlett, and Peyton Drew are the 10 names.

00:48:35.000 I don't know if there's two others or if some of them double up or maybe they only have 10 months.

00:48:40.000 I think some of them double up.

00:48:41.000 I want to be clear.

00:48:41.000 Most of these people at one point or another or currently are turning point ambassadors or were involved and come to our events and have been really great at promoting conservative principles and what we do at Turning Point.

00:48:59.000 So that's kind of the long and short of it.

00:49:02.000 And so the calendar had been out for a little bit.

00:49:06.000 And, you know, really Bryson Gray was one of the guys that kind of started this iteration of it.

00:49:12.000 People coming in and saying, you know, he came out and said, this never should have been done.

00:49:16.000 He said it was unchristian, specifically calling it demonic.

00:49:19.000 I had him on the space and he, you know, Charlie, you, you would have appreciated.

00:49:23.000 He was going chapter and verse, Old Testament and New Testament, against this thing.

00:49:28.000 And he was asking for anyone, he was challenging, could anyone come in here and say that I'm biblically incorrect?

00:49:34.000 And none of you conservatives will.

00:49:35.000 This was sort of the thing he kept going back on.

00:49:37.000 And other people came in and had a more libertarian type of attitude towards it, saying, look, you know, these are girls. 0.99

00:49:45.000 They're girls who are good looking. 1.00

00:49:47.000 Why shouldn't we have good looking girls in a calendar? 1.00

00:49:50.000 My brother came in, and this is kind of what started us on the whole path, was he actually had said, and this is a bit more nuanced, I think.

00:49:57.000 He had said that he wasn't against the calendar in and of itself, but he was against the inclusion of a crucifix in the calendar, which is Josie's photo, as you can see here.

00:50:10.000 Now, Josie eventually comes on there, and Kevin and her, before it really got out of control, kind of had a conversation about this.

00:50:17.000 And she said, look, you know, this was just, you know, that's just a crucifix that's up in her kitchen.

00:50:22.000 I have one up in my kitchen.

00:50:24.000 And, you know, she didn't even think anything.

00:50:27.000 She's just like in the kitchen. 0.97

00:50:30.000 Like, yeah, I was just saying, even not a bikini photo.

00:50:33.000 I don't think there's anything necessarily, I mean, it's a short skirt.

00:50:36.000 That's probably the, if you want to really in the kitchen is probably the most appropriate.

00:50:41.000 I mean, it's like opposite of all the other stuff that we were seeing.

00:50:44.000 Yeah, she's clearly trying to do like a 1950s. 1.00

00:50:47.000 She was trying to like kind of double troll the whole kind of feminist thing. 1.00

00:50:51.000 So I want to emphasize that.

00:50:54.000 And so what, well, let me just, let me just finish the piece on the crucifix was Kevin Josie had just said, look, you know, and she agreed.

00:51:00.000 She said, look, you know, we could have taken it out.

00:51:02.000 She said it was, I think it was an oversight.

00:51:04.000 And Kevin said, fine, you take it out.

00:51:05.000 I have no issue with it whatsoever.

00:51:07.000 And that's where, that's where we had left it until, and then Seth and Bryson and a lot of people got involved.

00:51:12.000 And it just, it just went out the rest.

00:51:14.000 It was amazing.

00:51:15.000 So I want to have been there.

00:51:16.000 I just want to make sure that everyone's clear on the name of the thing.

00:51:20.000 It's Conservative Dads, Real Women of America 2024. 1.00

00:51:25.000 They're trying to show women without penises. 1.00

00:51:28.000 Right. 0.99

00:51:29.000 That was the goal.

00:51:29.000 I mean, harder and harder to find in America today.

00:51:32.000 It's like an original movie.

00:51:35.000 And that's the same thing.

00:51:35.000 Ashley's photos.

00:51:36.000 Hold on.

00:51:37.000 I want to go through the facts.

00:51:38.000 Yeah.

00:51:39.000 So some of these pictures are rather innocent.

00:51:44.000 I mean, you look at Brittany Jean, I find nothing totally innocent. 0.96

00:51:48.000 Nothing wrong with this picture.

00:51:49.000 Like, literally, could you be watching?

00:51:50.000 She's a sweet person.

00:51:51.000 Some of these other pictures are not so pious.

00:51:54.000 I mean, Sarah's Gonzalez's picture, I have nothing.

00:51:57.000 I think most of these women are married, too. 1.00

00:51:59.000 Dana Lefish.

00:52:00.000 Yeah.

00:52:00.000 Most of these women are fine.

00:52:02.000 Some of these pictures, I just say this objectively, some of these pictures are awfully provocative.

00:52:07.000 And you obviously are an adult.

00:52:08.000 You have a right to do this.

00:52:09.000 But hold on a sec.

00:52:10.000 There's a couple of questions.

00:52:11.000 Number one: if you're a leader in the conservative movement trying to be a role model for young ladies, is this the best look?

00:52:19.000 I think that was a question that people had.

00:52:21.000 Number two, some people say, oh, they didn't know what they were signing up for.

00:52:25.000 You know, Riley Gaines, who I really respect and like, you know, she's there awfully provocatively there, and she's a swimmer, so you could argue it both ways.

00:52:33.000 But a lot of people, a lot of young ladies, look up to her.

00:52:36.000 But also, it says on the website, 10% of the sales will be donated to the Riley Gaines Center to protect women's sports from extremist ideology.

00:52:44.000 So the Leadership Institute is raising money off of this.

00:52:47.000 I didn't know that.

00:52:47.000 Did you?

00:52:49.000 So I didn't realize LI was part of this.

00:52:51.000 Oh, no, yeah.

00:52:51.000 The Leadership Institute is getting 10% of all swimsuit calendar sales.

00:52:56.000 So that's a lot of college kids.

00:52:58.000 Good for Morton.

00:52:59.000 I'm stating facts.

00:53:00.000 I'm not even, I'm not moralizing here.

00:53:02.000 Hey, I think that's a fact.

00:53:06.000 I'm just reading what it says. 0.94

00:53:08.000 I think this is silly.

00:53:09.000 Like, I would never buy a calendar like this, but I do think people like calling it demonic.

00:53:15.000 I don't know.

00:53:16.000 Hold on.

00:53:17.000 I'm asking people.

00:53:19.000 I'm asking some questions.

00:53:20.000 So the question is: role models of what is a conservative female. 1.00

00:53:25.000 And I think that there's this tension where some of the females say, well, we're not men, so let's own our bodies.

00:53:33.000 But isn't that kind of feminine mystique 1960s liberalism? 1.00

00:53:38.000 In some ways, I look at more kind of like Allie B. Stuckey or Lila Rose, who are very successful mothers who are in the movement that both vocally, verbally and vocally, I think embrace much more of a piety to themselves, which is certainly missing in this calendar.

00:53:58.000 And you can make your own argument with it.

00:53:59.000 And this is incredible.

00:54:00.000 A lot of people are very fired up about it.

00:54:03.000 I just, I mean, if you want to.

00:54:05.000 Yeah, go ahead.

00:54:06.000 If you want to be traditional, like there are cultures that have held, you know, women have to cover their heads. 1.00

00:54:12.000 They have to really cover their bodies.

00:54:14.000 Yeah, go to Latinx where Jack goes to mass and cover their heads. 0.99

00:54:20.000 Even that's like fake news version.

00:54:22.000 Like they do this as like a very nominal compliant, and it's like a little tiny thing.

00:54:25.000 But no, like you have Orthodox Jewish women who cannot show their hair to anyone who is not their husband. 1.00

00:54:31.000 They actually shave their head usually.

00:54:33.000 They shave it and wear wigs because they do their telemetic reasoning.

00:54:38.000 But there are other groups where they just, you know, they do that straight up.

00:54:41.000 I mean, Islamic cultures, of course, they'll have women aggressively cover themselves. 1.00

00:54:46.000 And I think it feels a little weird for the right, which the American right, which generally doesn't embrace those principles.

00:54:53.000 Like we're basically okay with women, like, frankly, dressing to look good in public for people. 0.96

00:55:01.000 Maybe, you know, maybe not like getting naked, maybe not wearing really revealing stuff, but we're basically okay with the idea of them looking good in public.

00:55:08.000 And then we're kind of trying to say, well, this really, this calendar, which has no nudity in it, and not really even any like salacious content.

00:55:16.000 Like there's nothing like that you'd see in the sports illustrated swimsuit issue where like they'll be in a swimsuit, but it's falling off and they're covering themselves.

00:55:24.000 You know, we've all seen that sort of thing.

00:55:27.000 And this is not that. 0.99

00:55:28.000 It's just sort of, it's just sort of dumb. 0.98

00:55:31.000 Like, it's dumb that they did this, but I don't think it's evil that they did. 0.99

00:55:37.000 I'd say it's cringe. 0.92

00:55:39.000 Like, it's cringe because it has elements of there's a line I used in a solution.

00:55:44.000 I think it's Tyler White.

00:55:45.000 Do you think it's cringe?

00:55:46.000 I didn't, I didn't think it's cringy at all.

00:55:48.000 I like literally didn't even give this two thoughts.

00:55:50.000 I thought it was crazy that people were even talking about this beyond a sentence.

00:55:53.000 I actually think that part of the reason I thought that I thought the most provocative photo in all these photos that I saw was actually in the bathtub.

00:56:04.000 I thought that was a little over the top.

00:56:06.000 And I saw the video, the behind-the-scenes video that she posted, and I saw him scooping up the bubbles.

00:56:13.000 And I thought I was like, oh no, are they bottling the bubbles?

00:56:17.000 This is taking this to the next level.

00:56:20.000 Like the influencer.

00:56:21.000 So I asked her.

00:56:23.000 But I got a little, I got, Jack, I got a little concern for a second because I was like, oh, no, are they bottling Ashley's bubbles?

00:56:28.000 Because she's a gamer.

00:56:30.000 Oh, like, what's that?

00:56:32.000 Bella Delphine.

00:56:34.000 Like the bathtub water?

00:56:34.000 What's her name?

00:56:35.000 Yeah.

00:56:36.000 And so I got a little bit concerned that this became a secondary play on top of the calendar sales and that Morgan maybe was taking a percentage of the bath water too.

00:56:45.000 And that was concerning.

00:56:47.000 But then I realized I continue watching the video.

00:56:49.000 They were just throwing the extra bubbles into the drain.

00:56:53.000 That was it.

00:56:54.000 Yeah.

00:56:54.000 And then I didn't give a second thought.

00:56:56.000 So to be honest, I have another wrinkle here that no one's going to make.

00:56:59.000 I don't.

00:57:00.000 Here's the other thing.

00:57:00.000 I don't think we should glorify alcohol.

00:57:02.000 And that's actually where I'm like super controversial.

00:57:04.000 I'll just be honest.

00:57:05.000 Well, it's beer, too.

00:57:06.000 It's probably doesn't.

00:57:07.000 That's where I know I sound Byzantine, but I don't think that conservative women should be posing for alcohol. 0.83

00:57:13.000 I love their alcohol, man.

00:57:15.000 Okay, then some other reference of sober people.

00:57:18.000 I didn't see an organization that didn't have fermenting.

00:57:21.000 Opposing alcohol is like a radical progressive position.

00:57:25.000 It is conservative has really never been anti-well.

00:57:27.000 I am.

00:57:28.000 So I'm going to give a shout out to Jack and so is Tucker and so is Trump and so are some of the more high-performing people in the movement.

00:57:34.000 I don't really want to take it this direction, but we have some friends over at Old Row and there's some other places that have much more provocative things that are being posted every single day on the side.

00:57:44.000 There's just a niche community of Americans who find that acceptable and non-offensive.

00:57:50.000 Well, of course.

00:57:51.000 The question is, though, is the person, this is an interesting question.

00:57:54.000 Is the person, let's take Riley, who we all respect and had a great should she have done it. 1.00

00:58:00.000 Yeah, who is kind of the current, one of the most popular females in the conservative movement. 1.00

00:58:07.000 Yeah.

00:58:07.000 She's like the number one face of certainly of 2023.

00:58:12.000 I think that right, I think Riley is the one that received the most feedback here because they say, Riley, you are kind of America's sweetheart in some ways.

00:58:23.000 Should America's sweetheart who was terrorized by men in Speedos in Speedos do this? 0.99

00:58:32.000 And that's, I think, really where a lot of this conversation.

00:58:36.000 But the problem with men and speedos isn't Speedos.

00:58:39.000 It's the men in Speedos part.

00:58:41.000 Like, it's gross to have.

00:58:42.000 It's gross to have a guy in a wit, a man in a woman's swimsuit parading around pretending to be a woman. 0.90

00:58:50.000 Is it gross to do a photo shoot for dads? 0.51

00:58:53.000 I mean, is it gross to have a beauty pageant? 1.00

00:58:57.000 Is it gross to go to the beach and wear that?

00:59:00.000 They try to cancel the Victoria's Secret stuff and everybody was bringing back.

00:59:06.000 We make fun of the left when they do weirdo freak show stuff where they're like, Miss Universe is going to be a dude. 0.99

00:59:12.000 And that's gross.

00:59:13.000 Like, here's, we don't, here's my said anything yet.

00:59:18.000 So, look, what I'll just say is this: is number one, I do think this is ultra-cringe.

00:59:24.000 I don't think that this calendar should have been done.

00:59:28.000 And if it was done, it shouldn't have been done in this way.

00:59:30.000 Um, because it's, it's simple, right?

00:59:33.000 A conservative influencers, female and male, supposedly are, you know, being or have their positions and platforms because of their ideas and their thoughts and their words and who they are, not what they are.

00:59:50.000 So, you know, I don't care if other people wanted to put out a, you know, a swimsuit edition calendar or whatever.

00:59:58.000 But the fact of the matter is that what you're doing is you're taking these conservative women who go around and their entire Twitter feeds or X feeds or wherever they put, you know, post their hang their thoughts are is about being conservative and being traditional. 0.78

01:00:15.000 And then you go and do something like this, which is the exact opposite of that.

01:00:18.000 And so it totally just tarnishes everything that you've been saying.

01:00:22.000 And then on, and on the flip side, it also, it's very reductive.

01:00:26.000 It's very reductive because it is now reducing you to, you know, just your body or whatever.

01:00:31.000 So, you know, that's why when this thing first came out, I wasn't planning on talking about it.

01:00:36.000 I wasn't planning on getting into it.

01:00:38.000 I'm sure they're selling a lot of calendars off of it.

01:00:40.000 So, you know, I guess you guys got to make money and different organizations are making money off of it.

01:00:45.000 It's just, you know, it's honestly something that I wouldn't have wanted to participate in if, you know, and nobody had reached out to me, but, you know, to participate in it.

01:00:54.000 But had they, I would have said no, thanks.

01:00:56.000 And yeah, just the second thing is we've been actually, I think, very fair in how we're covering this.

01:01:01.000 You know who's the most ferocious is conservative women on Twitter, like aggressive towards this. 1.00

01:01:07.000 I mean, Peachy Keenan and many others, they're going like 10 out of 10.

01:01:12.000 But I think some of it is vitriol towards some of the people.

01:01:15.000 Peachy, towards Ali, Ali Bathsucki, also who you mentioned, Charlie, what came out against it.

01:01:21.000 What did she say?

01:01:22.000 I'm curious.

01:01:23.000 She probably wishes she never.

01:01:25.000 I can pull it up, but I know she was, she was very, no, no, no, she wasn't in it.

01:01:29.000 No, no, no.

01:01:30.000 Give me a bad section that I saw that she was. 1.00

01:01:34.000 You can probably guess, you can probably guess what I think about a calendar branded for conservative dads filled with pictures of women, many of them married and many of them very scantily clad.

01:01:44.000 Hate it.

01:01:45.000 This is Ali Bathsucki.

01:01:46.000 I also find the discourse ridiculous as if we're all supposed to pretend we don't understand the purpose of a calendar of posed full-body pictures of women.

01:01:53.000 You can call me a prude, puritanical, or jealous of these women's beauty, whatever makes you feel better. 0.99

01:01:58.000 I just don't see the value in marketing what's basically in some photos soft porn to married or unmarried men.

01:02:04.000 Of course, the women are gorgeous. 1.00

01:02:06.000 And of course, I'm all for celebrating true femininity in an age that can't define woman.

01:02:10.000 In my view, this doesn't accomplish that at all.

01:02:13.000 Not trying to cause drama with the participants, some of whom I think are doing great.

01:02:16.000 And I'm aware there may be bigger battles to fight.

01:02:18.000 But I happen to know there are many Christian conservatives who share the same perspective behind the scenes.

01:02:23.000 I want to give them a voice.

01:02:24.000 The polarization between Christian and secular conservatism is only going to grow, my friends.

01:02:30.000 So buckle up. 0.96

01:02:31.000 And that's really huge.

01:02:33.000 I would say fault line.

01:02:35.000 That's a huge fault line that's been revealed here.

01:02:37.000 The soft porn comment is a little over the top.

01:02:40.000 This is the boudoir calendar that they've already prepared that they didn't release.

01:02:44.000 Yeah.

01:02:44.000 They have that too.

01:02:45.000 That's that soft porn. 0.88

01:02:48.000 Wait, I thought that was a joke. 0.97

01:02:50.000 Is that a real?

01:02:50.000 No, I'm just kidding.

01:02:51.000 It's a Joe.

01:02:52.000 It was just a chat, Jack.

01:02:53.000 No, okay.

01:02:54.000 Yeah.

01:02:54.000 No, that came up.

01:02:55.000 That came up on my space yesterday.

01:02:58.000 And I was like, wait, is that real?

01:03:00.000 I mean, I do believe in the slippery slide.

01:03:02.000 There were a few people who turned it down as well.

01:03:04.000 Yeah.

01:03:04.000 Jack, there is a slippery slope.

01:03:06.000 I just think, I just think so much of it's nutty.

01:03:09.000 It's like, well, okay, conservatives, do you not watch any television shows that contain content that lurid?

01:03:15.000 Because that's essentially every television show that exists today.

01:03:18.000 And just based on interactions, that's still relativism.

01:03:23.000 Maybe a bit, but it just feels like it gives me a sense of people being, there's a sense that it's like virtue signaling on the right.

01:03:32.000 Like, we're going to freak out about this thing that shows which truthfully barely matters.

01:03:36.000 Female influencers. 0.99

01:03:39.000 Yeah, but female influencers do all sorts of cringes. 1.00

01:03:43.000 Yeah, it's cringe.

01:03:43.000 I think it's cringe.

01:03:45.000 And yes, I'm against that too.

01:03:47.000 So like, it's cringe, but it's cringe in like a, it's kind of cringe in a, it's like male.

01:03:53.000 There's a line I used in a revolver piece once.

01:03:55.000 It's male to male transsexualism. 0.87

01:03:58.000 It's like, hey, conservative dads, you want this masculine calendar of real women? 0.84

01:04:04.000 It's got women holding guns. 1.00

01:04:07.000 And like, you know, it's like those black rifle coffee ads that are just all about like bacon and hot women and machine guns and more bacon.

01:04:17.000 And like, it's, it's sort of this, you know, what liberals would call like reactionary, like threatened masculinity. 0.87

01:04:24.000 Like we would say like conservative men feel threatened by trannies. 1.00

01:04:28.000 And so they're going to like push back by buying this calendar of conservative Twitter personalities in swimsuits.

01:04:35.000 Like that is what's cringe about it.

01:04:37.000 I don't think it's so much cringe that like there's very tame photos of people in swimsuits.

01:04:43.000 So I have, yeah, and I have a question for everybody because it's just, it kind of reminded me, it had kind of, it wasn't obviously done this nicely, but it had like kind of a throwback to like pinna models of like the 30s and 40s.

01:04:59.000 And Jack, I know you're a big fan of like that era and the classiness of like that entire era.

01:05:06.000 And the traditional gender roles. 1.00

01:05:07.000 Yeah, traditional gender roles, like Hollywood in the 30s and 40s, like you watch some of those movies and there's a lot to be like if we could kind of harken back to societal norms back then, I think America would be a lot better.

01:05:22.000 But like pinup girls were like very popular, right?

01:05:25.000 Like that was, that was a thing in that era that was very, very big.

01:05:30.000 I would even argue that we probably got more conservative after that for a hot second before going barreling down this road in the 80s and 90s to where we are today.

01:05:42.000 I mean, maybe politically, but this is a new stuff, which is my point.

01:05:46.000 Doing the whole thing on it tomorrow.

01:05:48.000 But they would paint these pinup girls up on like on the bombers that we sent into World War II. 0.97

01:05:53.000 These were on the planes.

01:05:55.000 Like nobody was like offended by these pinup girls being painted on bombers. 0.98

01:05:59.000 I don't think any of us are saying that we're against pinup girls.

01:06:02.000 I don't think, except maybe Charlie.

01:06:07.000 But it's pinnup girls. 1.00

01:06:10.000 He's saying it.

01:06:11.000 But but but no, because you're right, that is part of American history.

01:06:15.000 But again, it's cultural, though.

01:06:19.000 We're not like, again, I'm saying because it's conservative influencers and you can't take that out of it.

01:06:25.000 I'm sorry, you just can't.

01:06:27.000 Because what you've done now is you've gone completely off-brand with all of this and gone cross-purposes.

01:06:33.000 So now it's like everything that you do after this is going to be, oh, weren't you the one in the pinup calendar?

01:06:39.000 Aren't you just some pinup girl? 1.00

01:06:41.000 So every time, whether it's Riley or Josie or Ashley, who I'm friends with all of them, by the way, it's still going to be like the ultimate comeback, which by the way, is what when, what's a guy's name, Brian Atlas from the whatever podcast came onto my space last night.

01:06:56.000 And that's immediately how he started attacking Ashley.

01:06:59.000 That's immediately what he went in on.

01:07:00.000 Which body count?

01:07:03.000 Which I think is just like a creepy thing, right?

01:07:07.000 Like, why would again, I just, you know, again, I agree with the entire sentiment.

01:07:13.000 It might be, but why get what, but you've, what you've done is you've now made yourself vulnerable to that kind of attack for the rest of your career.

01:07:23.000 Yeah, I mean, it's possible.

01:07:24.000 It's plausible, but, you know, maybe that's in general.

01:07:29.000 Diversify her, always conserve.

01:07:32.000 Anyone who's going to stand as, like a, you know, for a morally rigid position will always be vulnerable to accusations of hypocrisy.

01:07:41.000 Uh now, I do think that if you're taking the position of cal of basically pg rated calendars being bad, you're probably pushing a political position that is very far outside the mainstream of the Us or basically any country outside of the mainstream.

01:08:00.000 Well yeah, for sure.

01:08:01.000 But again, we're talking about conservative influencers.

01:08:06.000 Well okay, the very idea of a conservative influencer is that there's someone who's more plugged into, you know, mainstream culture than conservatives of before.

01:08:15.000 Like what will people even praise like turning point events for?

01:08:19.000 They'll praise them for having like, actually attractive women at them, and there will be people who are on stage who dressed up to be attractive, and I don't think that it's that insane that they would also have photos of them that are basically what can go on a calendar.

01:08:36.000 I think it's still lame.

01:08:37.000 They made the calendar presented in a lame charlie.

01:08:42.000 If if, if somebody showed up to uh, you know, we just have America Fest.

01:08:47.000 If somebody showed up dressed like that and was about to go on stage, would you say anything or not?

01:08:52.000 Well, first of all, we've kicked out a porn star before, just for the record.

01:08:56.000 And that was, but that wasn't at SASS.

01:08:58.000 That was the student focused event, that's right.

01:09:00.000 Number two, the Chewbacca showed up without a shirt and I told him to put a shirt on.

01:09:05.000 So the Qinon shaman, the American shaman, I can, I can tell you exactly what Charlie would say, because he gets.

01:09:12.000 I was, I was there for both of them, but I I, I wouldn't, I wouldn't allow them on stage.

01:09:16.000 I have disinvited speakers for swearing.

01:09:18.000 Yeah cat yeah, she's not allowed. 0.91

01:09:21.000 I was, I was backstage for that too.

01:09:23.000 I said, you're never coming back, you're done.

01:09:26.000 You said there's, there's 12 year olds.

01:09:27.000 You're not going to steal their innocence for your social media sound bite.

01:09:32.000 Yep, it was at.

01:09:33.000 It was at the student event too.

01:09:34.000 Again yeah yeah, we have no.

01:09:35.000 I actually I was standing next to you when you verbatim did say exactly that, yeah, no.

01:09:40.000 So I mean I, it's not a mystery that I would oh yeah he, it would be, that would be done.

01:09:45.000 But but again, you were not.

01:09:47.000 Here's an example.

01:09:48.000 You were saying it's cross purposes and that's that's.

01:09:50.000 I think that's the point that i'm trying to make here is, what are we trying to do as a conservative movement.

01:09:55.000 I mean, hold on, let's just ask a question, would Phyllis Schlafly have posed in this neck? 0.86

01:09:59.000 Nobody would want that.

01:10:00.000 Of course not.

01:10:00.000 Well though, hold on, of course not.

01:10:02.000 Sign seal delivered.

01:10:02.000 Then that's the answer.

01:10:03.000 Why don't we have more Phyllis Schlafly energy in our, in our movement? 1.00

01:10:06.000 Well, they do events, but this is where it comes down to.

01:10:10.000 It comes down to the like the, the fine line of walking between our events right where it's like people come, like we saw the article that was that was sent over today in the group chat right, which talked about how turning points going to culture and bringing it to people, and that's what makes it acceptable.

01:10:28.000 Where it's like we've got all these social media influencers, we got people, and sometimes that pushes the envelope a little bit, and I think we've done a really good job at walking that fine line.

01:10:35.000 Where it's like we're not throwing things in people's faces, even though we've had tons of complaints Charlie Knows We've had tons of complaints from parents before saying, I went to your event.

01:10:44.000 There's a lot of girls that were underdressed. 1.00

01:10:48.000 And our challenge has always been is how do we make sure that people are properly dressed?

01:10:54.000 And over the years, I think, you know, things have kind of corrected.

01:10:57.000 And, you know, we have a lot more people who are a lot more responsible, a lot more conservative, a lot more modest at events, especially student events, but still cool, right?

01:11:07.000 And like a good example, I think, though, I was thinking about this today was a conservative that is very, very famous, very, very popular that always posts scantily clad, scantily dressed things is Livby Dunn.

01:11:21.000 So I don't know if you saw this.

01:11:22.000 Most recently, Livbie Dunn took a picture with the now governor of Louisiana, and people were like totally just like going at her, like turning pistols at her online, hey, I can't believe I didn't know she was a conservative, she's a Republican. 0.97

01:11:39.000 But she posts nothing but, you know, underdressed stuff.

01:11:44.000 If she showed up to the event, people would go crazy, right?

01:11:48.000 Like kind of like Danica Patrick thing, where if people knew, they would go crazy and she would probably get more of a pass because that's how she presents herself. 0.98

01:11:57.000 So I think the point that you guys have made, which is a really good one, which is like, if you're okay with this being your brand, then okay, this is your brand.

01:12:04.000 And like people are going to expect it from you kind of moving forward.

01:12:08.000 If not, you got to auto-correct.

01:12:09.000 You got to kind of like recorrect, I guess, your whole career.

01:12:13.000 And if you do that, then great too.

01:12:15.000 I think you can be, you know, I think you can diversify your portfolio a little bit.

01:12:20.000 Look, I want to read some of these comments here.

01:12:22.000 So this one says, I'm a Christian woman.

01:12:23.000 Charlie is correct. 0.75

01:12:24.000 The calendar is about sex.

01:12:25.000 They're portraying themselves in sexualized positions to be viewed by men. 0.93

01:12:28.000 It's very against Christianity. 0.98

01:12:30.000 Somebody else says, choose your battles.

01:12:32.000 This is a big nothing.

01:12:33.000 Burger did not allow it to divide.

01:12:34.000 Smoke and mirrors, nothing but a distraction.

01:12:36.000 So the comments are on both sides.

01:12:38.000 Guys, put your deal in here.

01:12:41.000 Also, you know, many, a couple of years ago, four or five years ago, we did our event in Florida and I was distracted by doing literally this is a true story.

01:12:47.000 I was distracted in the other side.

01:12:48.000 And one of our sponsors, big sponsors, Bang Energy, comes up with these scantily dressed women and they start dancing and literally throwing money from stage. 1.00

01:12:57.000 It was out of control.

01:12:58.000 And everyone accused me of cannons.

01:13:00.000 Yeah, everyone thought I was like approving the whole thing.

01:13:02.000 And everyone knows that I would not have approved that or did approve that.

01:13:06.000 And yeah, obviously we corrected it.

01:13:08.000 We took responsibility for it.

01:13:09.000 And, you know, that never happened again.

01:13:11.000 But I remember the backlash we received from that.

01:13:13.000 And a lot of it was warranted, honestly.

01:13:14.000 Some of it was unfair because no one actually, no one actually asked the truth of the questions surrounding that.

01:13:21.000 But here's the difference: those girls that were up on stage at the Turning Point USA event that were invited and not totally vetted, throwing money, they weren't conservative influencers that have Bible verses bios.

01:13:34.000 That's true.

01:13:35.000 And that's the point.

01:13:36.000 So it's whatever you do.

01:13:37.000 I was the speaker immediately after that.

01:13:40.000 So, and when you're at a turning point event, you know, when you're about to go up, you're backstage and you're, you know, so you're sort of in, you know, you're on deck.

01:13:53.000 And at the time, so I had my wife with me there, which usually backstage is where I go up. 1.00

01:13:58.000 And we had our oldest son with us there.

01:14:01.000 And we were just like, look, so basically all the bang energy girls come off of stage and now they're back there.

01:14:09.000 There's me, there's Tanya Tay, there's our kid.

01:14:12.000 And you know what?

01:14:13.000 We were fine with it.

01:14:14.000 We were totally, and Tanya was fine with it.

01:14:16.000 She was like, oh, these girls are gorgeous. 1.00

01:14:17.000 They're great.

01:14:18.000 And again, that was their owns.

01:14:21.000 They were just like, I don't know, cheerleaders, like the kind of cheerleaders you'd see at, you know, like Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders, right?

01:14:26.000 Fine with that.

01:14:27.000 And by the way, also fine with my son being there to see that.

01:14:30.000 You know, why?

01:14:30.000 Because that's not grooming towards some kind of sexually degenerate position that's completely heteronormative.

01:14:38.000 The difference is, yes, Charlie, I was not also asking the bang energy girls to get up and give me a, you know, a soliloquy on modern monetary theory or something afterwards.

01:14:50.000 Yes.

01:14:50.000 So you have to be the same person in your Twitter bio where you're quoting Jeremiah 29, 7 while also not posing scant, you know, maybe in a scantily way.

01:15:00.000 You have to balance it.

01:15:01.000 Yes.

01:15:02.000 We got a couple of super chats.

01:15:06.000 We'll go straight to Corey's second one.

01:15:09.000 I would buy a calendar with just Jack in it.

01:15:12.000 So Jack, you should consider.

01:15:14.000 My pillow calendar 2024.

01:15:17.000 By the way, if you do not listen to, and I've threatened this, if you do not listen, and we are checking your recent history to every episode of Chronicles the Revolution, Blake Neff and I will be releasing a 2024 calendar.

01:15:32.000 Whipped cream will be involved.

01:15:35.000 Wow.

01:15:36.000 Tempi.

01:15:37.000 100% true.

01:15:38.000 Yeah.

01:15:39.000 And so here's a comment. 1.00

01:15:40.000 They say this is why the left fears us stupid crap like this. 1.00

01:15:42.000 You're reinforcing a legit feeling that you want a hands-mailed tail future. 1.00

01:15:46.000 I don't even know what that means.

01:15:47.000 No one watches handmade tails.

01:15:48.000 No one watches that show.

01:15:49.000 Handmates tails.

01:15:49.000 I have spoken to women and they feel this 100%.

01:15:52.000 So wait, so women, they actually enjoy 1960s liberation? 0.65

01:15:57.000 They're happy. 0.98

01:15:59.000 Women are more miserable than they've ever been. 1.00

01:16:01.000 What about modernity is making women's lives better? 1.00

01:16:05.000 Well, they're the saddest in the history of the species.

01:16:09.000 It's grass is always greener.

01:16:11.000 True or not, the perspective from women that like the right literally wants to go back to that, I do think is a political barrier that we have to deal with. 0.99

01:16:22.000 Okay, well, we're living in hell.

01:16:24.000 Well, we've never been in handmade.

01:16:26.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:16:26.000 No, we're not.

01:16:28.000 Not yet, Tyler.

01:16:29.000 Give it time.

01:16:30.000 Give it time.

01:16:31.000 Charlie, even you talk about wanting to go back to like the 90s more than you talk about wanting to go back to 1890.

01:16:40.000 But nobody ever specified which 90s.

01:16:42.000 We never specified the century.

01:16:44.000 But nobody said that we can't 1790s.

01:16:47.000 The debate isn't. 0.97

01:16:49.000 But the debate isn't whether or not this calendar sucks.

01:16:52.000 Everyone has said this calendar is not that big of a deal. 0.58

01:16:54.000 What we're saying is, is that should people yeah, okay, other than Jack.

01:16:59.000 But the point is, is like, should the people that participate in this, do they want to like basically make their entire persona this?

01:17:07.000 And that, that's a fair question.

01:17:09.000 And that's a, that's a conversation that we're getting into.

01:17:12.000 But, you know, I think that, you know, we just had a conversation about this.

01:17:16.000 Like I, when we were talking about Taylor Swift, I missed the Britney Spears, you know, I'm a slave for you days when there was like some femininity in Hollywood and there was like some pride in that where there was just like, it was just in your face, like, you know, that at least it was just in your face sexually.

01:17:36.000 It's like pin up girl's territory, right? 1.00

01:17:38.000 Which is, this is what it is.

01:17:40.000 Now you have this whole like weird situation where it's like you can't hypersexualize stuff, but you can if it's trans.

01:17:49.000 And like, we're living in just some really weird times.

01:17:51.000 So I think that there's some relief that exists with just women being women and being okay with this. 0.65

01:17:58.000 And if they're okay with it, then they're okay with it.

01:18:00.000 And that sucks, you know, if down the road, sometimes like a bad tattoo, but like that is what it is.

01:18:06.000 Tyler's got some really bad tattoos. 0.53

01:18:09.000 I think I have no tattoos.

01:18:11.000 I think all tattoos are worse.

01:18:14.000 I think any tattoo is worse than appearing in this calendar.

01:18:18.000 Based.

01:18:19.000 Any tattoo.

01:18:21.000 Any tattoo.

01:18:22.000 Tattoos are all.

01:18:23.000 Okay.

01:18:23.000 If you're a tattoo that you're a combat veteran.

01:18:27.000 Wait, Blake, you were like, the right shouldn't pick these fights.

01:18:30.000 The right shouldn't pick these battles.

01:18:31.000 And now you're like, I don't think we should ban tattoos.

01:18:36.000 They're saying that tattoos are hideous.

01:18:38.000 Blake, you're going to be surprised people.

01:18:43.000 You're going to get annihilated for that one, that comment.

01:18:46.000 Oh, man. 0.99

01:18:48.000 They're going to ink me to death.

01:18:50.000 So we had some staff.

01:18:51.000 What did he say?

01:18:52.000 We had some staff tattoos.

01:18:55.000 I was reading about Hands Mail Tail.

01:18:56.000 What?

01:18:56.000 We had some staff get some very special tattoos before the 2020 election.

01:19:01.000 I'm not going to say who it was.

01:19:03.000 But they got an inner lip tattoo and they got MAGA tattooed on their inner lip one night.

01:19:09.000 It was me, actually.

01:19:11.000 Do they still work?

01:19:13.000 Oh, yeah. 0.85

01:19:13.000 That's disgusting. 0.85

01:19:16.000 It was like a blood oath before that. 0.73

01:19:20.000 That was how intense our team was.

01:19:22.000 We can still win in 2022.

01:19:22.000 Door knocking.

01:19:23.000 We could still win in 2014.

01:19:24.000 Oh, they still have the tattoos because it takes a year.

01:19:27.000 They said MAGA.

01:19:28.000 They go away.

01:19:29.000 Well, those tats.

01:19:32.000 The tattoo tats that you have on inner lip or your, or if you get like prison tats in general, in any extremity, are the easiest ones to get rid of and are the ones that go away the fastest.

01:19:41.000 Yeah, these go away over time.

01:19:43.000 They go away super fast.

01:19:44.000 But that's how committed they were.

01:19:46.000 And I think one of them showed President Trump.

01:19:51.000 Pretty cool.

01:19:55.000 No, I just think it's an interesting question of why are modern women so defensive of something making them miserable? 1.00

01:20:04.000 Interesting question.

01:20:06.000 Okay, so we have about five minutes remaining here.

01:20:10.000 Do we want to go to another topic or do we want to, anyone else have something on calendar gate?

01:20:13.000 Because it did we cover.

01:20:16.000 I feel like we should wrap up the year if we only have five minutes left.

01:20:19.000 Okay.

01:20:21.000 Blake, do you have a thought defending the calendar?

01:20:26.000 No, we've said enough of the calendar.

01:20:28.000 If we want to just do a different topic, because we have five minutes left or it's spinning off from that, we were going to talk about, you know, we mentioned these are all influencers.

01:20:37.000 So we were going to talk about YouTube families.

01:20:39.000 Like, is it immoral that you're going to be talking about?

01:20:42.000 I feel like we don't have.

01:20:43.000 Okay.

01:20:44.000 I feel like I want to say that for a longer time.

01:20:45.000 That's a longer.

01:20:47.000 That's a longer discussion.

01:20:48.000 Well, what is the thought crime of the year then?

01:20:51.000 That's what Andrew suggests we talk about.

01:20:53.000 So, Jack, what's the thought crime of the year?

01:20:56.000 Of 2023.

01:20:57.000 So like of topics that we've covered?

01:21:00.000 Or maybe one we didn't cover, I guess.

01:21:02.000 Then we'd have to talk about it next year.

01:21:04.000 I think the thought crime of the year, honestly, we haven't really discussed it on here, but really is this.

01:21:14.000 It's that for the right to fight back, the right has to learn that we need to go outside of our comfort zone.

01:21:20.000 And that means, and I'm not going to say like, oh, we need to get.

01:21:23.000 So yeah, today was Franco Thursday on all over my Twitter.

01:21:28.000 And Blake, you and I did the entire Franco episode.

01:21:31.000 It dropped today.

01:21:32.000 I don't know if you've seen, but in Spain, they're like going, they're going nuts that we did this.

01:21:37.000 They love it.

01:21:38.000 They're like translating all of our episode into Spanish.

01:21:42.000 And they're just like, oh, my gosh, you know, finally, U.S. conservatives get it right.

01:21:47.000 And it's like sometimes that you do actually, and then Trump, of course, has been kind of playing around with this idea of, you know, I'm not going to be a dictator, but maybe just for one day, Sean, right?

01:21:57.000 And just sort of normalizing this idea that sometimes we have to go outside the normal bounds of what is considered conservatism in order to save the Republic or just in order to save the nation.

01:22:09.000 I think that's probably the biggest thought crime of the year.

01:22:12.000 And the fact that when Trump says that, people cheer and people are sick and fed up because, by the way, it isn't the right that started this, right?

01:22:21.000 It's like, if the left is breaking all the rules, why can't the right break at one or two in order to set things back to the way it was?

01:22:28.000 The thought crime of the year that is no longer a thought crime is finally we could talk openly about the great replacement.

01:22:33.000 I think it's amazing.

01:22:34.000 We used to get into trouble for saying it.

01:22:37.000 Vivek deserves a lot of credit.

01:22:38.000 He moved the Overton window.

01:22:40.000 We now talk openly about it on the show.

01:22:42.000 And I just think it's great.

01:22:45.000 You are being replaced.

01:22:46.000 They're trying to change the racial demographics of the country. 0.97

01:22:49.000 They're trying to change the religious demographics of the country. 0.98

01:22:52.000 Some people think that Tucker partially got fired for the great replacement.

01:22:57.000 And it's not a matter of theory.

01:22:59.000 It's the great replacement reality.

01:23:01.000 So for me, that's the big thought crime win of 2023.

01:23:04.000 A year ago, if we had this show and we said it would be clipped up everywhere.

01:23:07.000 Now I look into the camera, I say, You're being replaced.

01:23:09.000 And the media says, Oh, everyone says that now.

01:23:11.000 So that's a huge narrative win, large in part thanks to Elon.

01:23:14.000 That is my thought crime that is no longer a thought crime.

01:23:17.000 And I think that's a good thing.

01:23:18.000 I think the less things that can be in the thought crime world and more into mainstream zeitgeist, Zeitgeist world is a win for humanity.

01:23:26.000 I'll go more specific.

01:23:28.000 Also, I think a thought crime that has taken a few years to take root, but is fine.

01:23:32.000 We just in the last month, you're really seeing it take off is people just saying, Derek Chauvin did nothing wrong.

01:23:40.000 He is a political prisoner who is railroad.

01:23:43.000 Tucker did a whole episode on that today.

01:23:44.000 That one's going to pick up the scene, by the way.

01:23:46.000 That's going to pick up.

01:23:48.000 Yep.

01:23:48.000 That's right.

01:23:49.000 Yeah, it took three years, but now you have Glenn Lowry saying it.

01:23:52.000 He's a black professor.

01:23:53.000 You have John McWhorter saying it. 0.86

01:23:55.000 You have Tucker Carlson saying it.

01:23:56.000 Lots of people are now just saying what really we had all the evidence we needed to say that three years ago, three and a half years ago.

01:24:05.000 And now, you know, people are standing up to say it.

01:24:08.000 And I think that evolution is very indicative of how the country as a whole has shifted.

01:24:14.000 I love that.

01:24:15.000 I still can't get over the Prager debate.

01:24:18.000 So that was.

01:24:19.000 Oh, no.

01:24:21.000 Oh, no.

01:24:22.000 I saw him.

01:24:24.000 I saw him the other day.

01:24:25.000 And I was like, it was just in the back of my head.

01:24:27.000 I was like, that was, I can't, I will never.

01:24:31.000 We can never straight.

01:24:33.000 I don't think, I don't think that will ever get resolved.

01:24:36.000 Not on this show.

01:24:38.000 Yeah, that was like if the child is an AI child.

01:24:42.000 Oh, I mean, you can't go back into it.

01:24:45.000 I'm sorry for even bringing it up.

01:24:48.000 No child is actually harmed.

01:24:50.000 I didn't even want to, but we like talked about it for like four days straight after that.

01:24:54.000 And it was like non-stop.

01:24:55.000 That was.

01:24:56.000 I couldn't stop thinking about it.

01:24:57.000 What if we have a chat GPT pretend to be the child while it's because someone's into that?

01:25:04.000 But by the way, I'm not explaining this.

01:25:07.000 No.

01:25:08.000 We're not getting into it.

01:25:09.000 You have to go back and watch.

01:25:12.000 You have to go back and watch the episode if you want to really get into it.

01:25:16.000 We're never touching it again.

01:25:18.000 But that thought crime is never going away.

01:25:22.000 Yeah, that was one where we're just like, I think we all just sort of agreed.

01:25:25.000 We're like, yeah, we have a lot of respect for what Prager does, but yeah, we totally disagree on this.

01:25:32.000 Just 100% disagree.

01:25:33.000 You can't get there.

01:25:35.000 We tried a lot of different things.

01:25:36.000 Can't get there.

01:25:37.000 Can't get there.

01:25:38.000 I will say that of all of all the thought crimes that we did, the first ever episode, it's hard to get close to, do we have the sound?

01:25:51.000 Ah, the chirp.

01:25:53.000 The chirp.

01:25:54.000 No, we just won on the chirb.

01:25:56.000 I mean, we just, we just dominated with the chirp.

01:25:58.000 That was, that was the one where.

01:26:02.000 So actually, funny enough, I was over here at the studio the other day getting some stuff ready.

01:26:08.000 And the, you know, we're in a building where the, you know, we don't, we don't actually go around changing the smoke alarm batteries.

01:26:18.000 And of course, the smoke alarm was going off.

01:26:20.000 And I'm like, like the one day I'm not filming and it's going off.

01:26:23.000 Like this would have been hilarious if that happened during the show.

01:26:27.000 That was back when we had you guys, your guys' face like smiling on the on the logo.

01:26:32.000 It was you guys like wow.

01:26:35.000 We still have that the corner.

01:26:36.000 Everybody, this has been a great year.

01:26:37.000 I want to thank you guys for watching.

01:26:38.000 We're going to keep in 2024.

01:26:39.000 This show is going to be taking off like a rocket.

01:26:41.000 So make sure you guys subscribe on Rumble every Thursday.

01:26:44.000 It's amazing.

01:26:46.000 We are able to really talk.

01:26:47.000 And by the way, the more things we can retire from thought crime to mainstream, we're doing our job.

01:26:57.000 From all of us at Thought Crime, I hope you have a chirpy new year.

01:27:03.000 Get your precinct sheriff hat and keep on committing thought crimes.

01:27:10.000 Blake, we need the hats.

01:27:12.000 This is so messy. 0.99

01:27:12.000 And whatever you do, don't buy that darn calendar. 0.99

01:27:15.000 In a year, we'll be here. 0.97

01:27:17.000 We'll all have the hats, and Donald Trump will be getting Blake's vitamin D level will be above.

01:27:25.000 We will drag you outside.

01:27:27.000 I will wear this hat and dying. 0.98

01:27:30.000 By the way, don't show that again.

01:27:30.000 Don't show that again.

01:27:32.000 And what's Blake's name?

01:27:34.000 I will be the only one dying.

01:27:38.000 By God like Blake, everybody.

01:27:40.000 Wait, he doesn't know.

01:27:41.000 Blake, underneath your thought crime.

01:27:43.000 The number one thought crime at the end of next year will be that Blake Neff did what was necessary to his co-hosts and did nothing wrong.

01:27:52.000 All right.

01:27:53.000 Have a great new year, everybody.

01:27:55.000 Let's chirp our way out.

01:27:56.000 Change your batteries on your firefighter.

01:27:59.000 Something tells me not many people in this audience have that problem.

01:28:02.000 God bless.

01:28:03.000 Practice good fire prevention.

01:28:07.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

01:28:09.000 Email us as always freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:28:12.000 Thanks so much for listening.

01:28:13.000 God bless.

01:28:16.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - December 30, 2023

THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 26 — CalendarGate Catastrophe? Who Wins a Civil War? Thoughtcrime of the Year?

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