The Charlie Kirk Show - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 28 — Tunnel Trouble? J-E-D-I? Charlie Vs. MLK?

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00:02:07.000 Hello, everybody.

00:02:08.000 You know, sometimes there are news cycles where you just look to the heavens and say, thank the Lord we have a show called Thought Crime.

00:02:16.000 This is one of those news cycles.

00:02:18.000 Mr. Blake is here.

00:02:19.000 We're going to unveil Blake's new title later on in the program.

00:02:22.000 Oh, boy, it's very exciting.

00:02:23.000 Big announcement.

00:02:23.000 We're just going to leave you in suspense.

00:02:24.000 We have Andrew Covet and the man accused of being a foreign spy, Jack Pesobic.

00:02:29.000 Jack, what is going on in Yemen?

00:02:30.000 And tease it for our later segment because we will get to it.

00:02:35.000 But let's get to the breaking news for those people that's tuning in.

00:02:38.000 All right, so breaking news.

00:02:40.000 For those people that have been watching the Red Sea, the U.S. Navy lately over there, for the past couple of weeks, really, I think about almost a month at this point now, the Houthi rebels have been firing off missiles, rockets, and drones, targeting merchant shipping in the Red Sea.

00:02:58.000 This, of course, is one of the key choke points for oil transfers between the Gulf of the Persian Gulf and up through the Suez Canal.

00:03:08.000 The U.S. Navy has been authorized and been shooting down these drones, but hasn't struck the Yemeni Houthis at any point until just about really about an hour ago here, opened up a series of very serious strikes.

00:03:23.000 We're told naval strikes, potentially Air Force strikes against Houthi targets.

00:03:28.000 We don't even have all the targets yet that have been hit.

00:03:30.000 I'm told, and this is just, again, you know, fog of war, so I'll put that on it.

00:03:35.000 But we're told Abbas Airport, Taiz Airport.

00:03:37.000 This is in Sana'a, which is the capital of Yemen, controlled by the Houthis, 22nd Brigade base in Taiz, Kalin base, a number of bases, number of airports, a number of positions which are used to conduct these strikes.

00:03:50.000 We're told that the Houthis have responded by announcing they will begin the direct targeting of U.S. naval vessels and British Royal Navy vessels in the Red Sea, which they had not done up to now.

00:04:00.000 So, we'll talk about the significance of this as it ties into a story about military recruitment.

00:04:05.000 So, we'll put that kind of on hold.

00:04:07.000 But the story that has had the thought-crimy aspects all week, it has to be right.

00:04:14.000 It just is almost irresistible to get into is the bizarre, strange, perplexing story of Jewish tunnels. 0.98

00:04:28.000 No tunnels.

00:04:29.000 Before we go any further, I need to say two things.

00:04:31.000 And then, Blake, I'll allow you to navigate our audience like a good ombudsman through this story.

00:04:36.000 Is I had no idea why this was a big story.

00:04:39.000 Andrew and I were together.

00:04:40.000 We're like, why are people messaging us about Jewish tunnels?

00:04:43.000 It wasn't that interesting to me at all.

00:04:45.000 And then I actually started the research, and I'm like, okay, this is kind of interesting.

00:04:48.000 The second thing is that this is being used to foment and spread Jew hatred. 0.63

00:04:53.000 We have no tolerance for that nonsense. 0.89

00:04:55.000 We have no patience for that.

00:04:57.000 However, this story needs to be covered.

00:05:00.000 Blake, what in the fresh heaven is going on with Jewish tunnels? 1.00

00:05:06.000 It's definitely one of the funniest stories ever, just kind of from a superficial visual element.

00:05:11.000 It trickled out, I think it was on Tuesday night, maybe Monday, Monday night, Tuesday night, whichever it was the first night.

00:05:16.000 You start getting these videos popping up on Twitter that are like, you know, these cops are in the synagogue and then this wall busts down.

00:05:24.000 And you have clips that they were just showing it there where this guy's crawling out like a teenage mutant ninja turtle, except, you know, with a skull cap on.

00:05:31.000 This was so confusing.

00:05:33.000 And I wasn't interested at all.

00:05:35.000 I was like, so you know what I thought the story was?

00:05:37.000 I thought people were mocking Jews because they're so obsessed with Hamas tunnels and they built their own tunnels and it was like a way to own the Jews. 1.00

00:05:45.000 I was like, that's stupid anti-Semitism. 1.00

00:05:46.000 I have no patience for this. 1.00

00:05:47.000 But it actually is a little bit weirder.

00:05:50.000 It's so much weirder than that.

00:05:51.000 So, you know, it's context.

00:05:53.000 This is New York.

00:05:53.000 This is ultra-Orthodox Jews, you know, the ones who still practice.

00:05:57.000 Yeah.

00:05:57.000 Hasidic.

00:05:57.000 I'm not sure if it's specifically Haspitic.

00:05:59.000 It's the Shabbat-Lubavitch movement. 0.89

00:06:01.000 These aren't Hasidic.

00:06:02.000 Yeah, I don't want to mix it up, you know, my terminology, but that's, you know, what this movement is.

00:06:07.000 So these are the guys.

00:06:08.000 They wear the hats.

00:06:09.000 They wear the old-timey hair.

00:06:11.000 They observe all the rules pretty strictly.

00:06:14.000 And so it's this historic synagogue in Brooklyn.

00:06:17.000 And it seems there was some sort of dispute where some people wanted to expand the synagogue.

00:06:23.000 And it might be related with this is in the Lubavitch movement.

00:06:26.000 There's a messianic figure.

00:06:28.000 Yeah.

00:06:29.000 They're debating whether he's the Messiah or not.

00:06:31.000 And an element of this is like, well, we're going to spread the message that this is the Messiah, and then it will cause the movement to grow.

00:06:37.000 So we need to expand the synagogue.

00:06:39.000 You know, very old-timey thinking.

00:06:41.000 Like, you know, we're going to be a bigger movement.

00:06:42.000 So we need a bigger synagogue.

00:06:44.000 And how do you do that?

00:06:44.000 You dig tunnels.

00:06:45.000 This is one of the claims I've heard.

00:06:46.000 I don't know 100% how accurate it is.

00:06:50.000 But so these, you know, you have all these young students.

00:06:52.000 They're these, you know, young men who just study Talmud all the time and Torah.

00:06:56.000 And Torah, Torah, and Talmud.

00:06:58.000 And they, you know, they're very enthusiastic.

00:06:58.000 And the Tunnel.

00:07:02.000 So how do you show your enthusiasm for this?

00:07:04.000 Well, you, you, you, you go and you dig the tunnel yourself, or you hire Mexican illegal immigrants to do it, as it turns out. 0.99

00:07:09.000 Or I should just say illegal workers.

00:07:11.000 We don't know if they were Mexican.

00:07:12.000 But and so they go and they start digging this tunnel underneath this Shabbat building and it sort of links.

00:07:19.000 Whatever.

00:07:19.000 Yes.

00:07:20.000 And you link these three buildings, it seems.

00:07:24.000 Which is a men's quarter, a woman's court. 1.00

00:07:26.000 It was a men's court.

00:07:27.000 And it goes under the women's quarter. 1.00

00:07:28.000 That's a little weird.

00:07:29.000 I think that might just be a coincidence, but it does give it some strange flair.

00:07:34.000 And then there's all these weird aspects to it.

00:07:36.000 You know, in the clip that you can see of them like opening the sides of the window, they were pulling out this kind of soiled mattress.

00:07:42.000 And it seems that what happened is the illegal workers who were digging this lived there for a while because it was all an illegal operation.

00:07:49.000 But that caused all these lunatics on the internet to lose their minds.

00:07:52.000 So sort of an awkward context of this is there's all these, you know, a downside of, you know, all the free speech on Twitter is you do have a lot of loonies on there. 0.90

00:08:00.000 And so you have a lot of really bad anti-Semitism on Twitter.

00:08:03.000 That's just how it is.

00:08:04.000 And some people are really leaning into this and they're just like, yeah, these tunnels were for pedophiles or whatever to hide their victims.

00:08:12.000 Just bizarre stuff.

00:08:14.000 That's bad.

00:08:15.000 But the clips are really funny, I will say.

00:08:18.000 Okay, but just to make sure we exhaust every possible internet conspiracy, there also was a child's high chair found.

00:08:25.000 Is that correct?

00:08:26.000 There was an image that looks like that.

00:08:28.000 I don't know the explanation of that one.

00:08:29.000 It's probably not.

00:08:30.000 The other thing is that the mattress was soiled with menstrual blood, allegedly.

00:08:37.000 I don't know how you know that, but maybe.

00:08:38.000 That's my explanation, because in Jewish law, the woman, in traditional, let's just say custom, in Ultra-Orthodox, actually the woman and the man, on a wedding night, will go and obviously consummate the marriage, and they'll come out and celebrate with a cloth demonstrating she was indeed a virgin, because she then, quote unquote, let's just say, bled afterwards.

00:09:04.000 So so Charlie, this is it's.

00:09:06.000 It's called the mikvah yes, where women go during or after their period, hence the blood on the mattress. 0.96

00:09:14.000 Okay so, and then there's all this child sacrifice, crazy stuff like on the internet, about you'll you'll, you'll hear about it, but according to one of our Jewish friends, that was uh, giving us the the, the lowdown, the buried lead is how this story has fueled all kinds of, you know, Anti-semitic rumors.

00:09:31.000 Because Jews are involved, tunnels are involved, blood was found, a child seat was found, or the high chair uh, and that. 0.99

00:09:38.000 But what?

00:09:39.000 I will tell you Charlie, you and I both, we kind of didn't get it.

00:09:41.000 We, you know, there was people on twitter going like, Charlie, why aren't you commenting on the Jew tunnels? 1.00

00:09:45.000 And it was like I, you know, what do you want us to say?

00:09:50.000 I literally, I was like, what do you want me to say?

00:09:54.000 Here's here's, the interesting part, though.

00:09:56.000 So when I I I, I started, you know, asking some of my Jewish friends, I said, you know, what's the deal with this, these Jew tunnels? 1.00

00:10:02.000 Is this like a normal thing?

00:10:04.000 You getting back at Hamas like what's the deal? 0.86

00:10:04.000 Is this like a? 0.86

00:10:07.000 And they, and all three of them, gave me the same line and this is what piqued my interest.

00:10:11.000 I, I kid you I I, this is what interest instantly got me uh, curious.

00:10:15.000 They said quote unquote, three different people had no idea was I was texting them.

00:10:20.000 I said, what's the deal with these, these tunnels?

00:10:22.000 They said just a bunch of young hooligans.

00:10:25.000 It was like they, all three of them, said the exact same thing to me and I was like okay, the word is out.

00:10:32.000 But I don't like that answer because obviously there was some supervision by leadership.

00:10:36.000 And, by the way, if you want to just the story and I want to get Jack in on this Jack is uh suffering of a casualty, of being remote on this, but and Jack, by the way, we're getting Jack, hopefully to come in in person for our Iowa caucus coverage on monday.

00:10:46.000 So uh, we're working on that.

00:10:48.000 So I I, just I, one of the there's all these NEW YORK POST stories and one of them had this poor kid who keeps on tweeting out in all caps.

00:10:57.000 Have you seen this back like eight months ago?

00:10:59.000 Yeah, he said there are a bunch Of people underneath my apartment speaking Yiddish, and my building has no basement.

00:11:06.000 Repeat, my building has no basement. 0.97

00:11:08.000 And people are like, Oh, shut up. 0.98

00:11:09.000 You're like hearing things. 0.73

00:11:10.000 He's like, There are people below my apartment speaking Yiddish and my basement.

00:11:15.000 It's like one of the funniest. 0.82

00:11:16.000 It's super, it's, I think he might still be nuts.

00:11:18.000 Because if you look at the map, the tunnel is between three chabad buildings. 0.89

00:11:22.000 So he might still be nuts, but he's now vindicated. 0.51

00:11:25.000 Are they also building tunnels under his apartment? 0.96

00:11:28.000 Is what people are asking.

00:11:30.000 It's like it is just the only tunnel network.

00:11:33.000 That's how they were.

00:11:33.000 That's how they were discovered.

00:11:35.000 Keep in mind.

00:11:36.000 There have been urban legends for decades about, you know, mole people tunnels in New York and like, you know, hidden.

00:11:42.000 But just to be, by the way, this is not, this is Horetz.org.

00:11:45.000 Those aren't urban legends.

00:11:46.000 Those are real.

00:11:47.000 And we'll let Jack Horetz came out today with a very bizarre article.

00:11:50.000 I was like, guys, this doesn't help.

00:11:51.000 And they say, the long history of Jewish people building tunnels. 0.98

00:11:55.000 But guys, they're talking about like there's true.

00:12:00.000 I was in a Jewish tunnel in Jerusalem.

00:12:02.000 You know, they do someone underneath the Western Wall and all this.

00:12:05.000 But I said, guys, time out.

00:12:06.000 Just take a loss on this. 0.88

00:12:07.000 Orthodox Jews do sometimes, some of them do kind of look like hobbits. 1.00

00:12:10.000 So, you know, just like tunnels into the.

00:12:13.000 I don't know.

00:12:13.000 I mean, so look, the point is, Jack, what's going on here?

00:12:18.000 It's a very strange story.

00:12:21.000 I had no interest until I was told to have interest.

00:12:25.000 And then I kind of gained a little bit of interest.

00:12:28.000 And then the explanation was like, come on, you're trying to tell me that nobody in the leadership knew this.

00:12:33.000 They got a bunch of illegals, Mexicans going down and they're housing them. 1.00

00:12:37.000 And they're like excavating Shawshank Redemption. 0.95

00:12:41.000 And it's a bunch of hooligans.

00:12:42.000 Like, come on, don't lie to us.

00:12:44.000 Jack, what's going on?

00:12:45.000 What would the poster be instead of Rita Hayworth? 1.00

00:12:47.000 They're not telling us the truth about the tunnels, Charlie.

00:12:51.000 They're clearly hiding what's going on in those tunnels.

00:12:56.000 Here's the biggest piece of this.

00:12:57.000 Here's the biggest piece that I don't buy because they say, they say, look, there's just a couple of kids and they didn't do it.

00:12:57.000 All right.

00:13:02.000 Then they say, oh, by the way, they hired a bunch of illegal Mexicans and they were working to build the tunnel and they were living in the tunnel and living in this house. 0.82

00:13:11.000 And that's what they try to blame these mattresses on. 0.86

00:13:14.000 Plus, you got people that are running around saying, oh, all mattresses look like that.

00:13:18.000 Everyone's, my mattress doesn't look like that.

00:13:20.000 I've never had a mattress that looked like that.

00:13:21.000 Even when I lived by myself, I never had a mattress never looked like that. 0.92

00:13:25.000 That's ridiculous.

00:13:26.000 And they said, well, and then, and then, so then when they push back on them, they say, well, it wasn't our fault. 0.99

00:13:30.000 It was the Mexicans. 1.00

00:13:31.000 The Mexicans. 0.98

00:13:32.000 So, of course, they blame it on the Mexicans.

00:13:34.000 They said it was there.

00:13:35.000 It was, it was like, you know, Derdy Sanchez over there who was saying that it was his.

00:13:39.000 No, no, but I actually believe this because the idea of PR is just this bad.

00:13:44.000 It's true.

00:13:44.000 It is that bad, actually.

00:13:45.000 Like, they used to have the best PR in the world.

00:13:46.000 And I'm like, I, you know, Israel, I don't know what's going on, but you guys like got to hire the guys from before.

00:13:52.000 And then they say there was another piece of it that they said, oh, this has been going on since COVID.

00:13:58.000 And they were trying to tie it to COVID and the lockdowns.

00:14:01.000 We remember because the Orthodox Jewish community in New York was fighting Cuomo at the time and the vaccinations and saying like, oh, it was like an anti-vax tunnel, like the underground anti-vax railroad or something was going on in the Hasidic Jewish community.

00:14:15.000 And it's like, well, wait a minute, none of this adds up because if they were just building, if the Mexicans were just building it, then how could it have been going on since 2020? 0.93

00:14:23.000 You guys have been going there for this long under like the world headquarters and nobody knew about it for all this time.

00:14:29.000 Plus that guys, the tweets that Blake mentioned, these were months ago.

00:14:33.000 So no, I think this was known about.

00:14:36.000 I think it's just blown over into, you know, into now because it got bigger.

00:14:40.000 But I do think this is something they most likely knew about.

00:14:43.000 So and I just look, again, I'm not overly interested in it, but also if it wasn't well known about, why did they defend it so viciously against the police?

00:14:50.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:14:52.000 Right.

00:14:52.000 That's also, I mean, it was as if a mob formed, like, you don't go to this as if the police were going to go find like a 2,000-year-old copy of the Torah.

00:15:02.000 And it's like, no, no, you can't do that.

00:15:04.000 And they're starting to like move barricades.

00:15:06.000 And they're, I've watched the video.

00:15:08.000 I said, geez, they're like defending it.

00:15:09.000 They're defending it like they've got the Ark of the Covenant in there.

00:15:12.000 No, like, that's what I'm saying.

00:15:13.000 As if it was, you know, the rod of which Moses split the Red Sea with.

00:15:18.000 I mean, I just, I don't quite get that part.

00:15:21.000 And then the PR has just been laughable.

00:15:24.000 Like, it's just been one iteration after the other.

00:15:27.000 And I've been reading this. 1.00

00:15:29.000 And I just, again, I don't like any of the over-the-top, the anti-Semitism, all that stupid. 0.99

00:15:35.000 At the same time, Blake, this is, it's not nothing, is it? 0.98

00:15:42.000 If nothing else, it's a strange story.

00:15:44.000 It's super strange.

00:15:45.000 I think it's funny.

00:15:46.000 I think, like, what it really is, I think it gets at what messes with people's heads a little bit is you kind of have two types of Jewish people in American life.

00:15:57.000 You have sort of assimilated Jews, and they're mostly like very successful, very well-off, very influential.

00:16:05.000 They're smart people.

00:16:06.000 We all know a bunch of them.

00:16:07.000 And then you sort of have this other group that's very old, traditional, adheres very much to their old way of life, and has all of these, you know, strange habits that are, you know, straight out of the Middle Ages, essentially.

00:16:19.000 And it makes them very alien to us.

00:16:22.000 And I think, especially if you're, you know, you have all these, unfortunately, you have all these like, you know, anti-Semitic conspiracy theories and stuff.

00:16:27.000 And it's like the split between these two groups just drives people insane.

00:16:32.000 They can't handle it.

00:16:32.000 It's like, imagine if, you know, we had the Amish and they were just, you know, normal Amish people.

00:16:36.000 And then you had this split that was also Amish and they were really successful and, you know, were major Democratic Party donors and, you know, had all these like famous, you know, business tycoons who are still Amish.

00:16:48.000 You mean like the Amish own Disney or something?

00:16:50.000 Yeah, something like that.

00:16:51.000 And it's just the truth is like, you know, some kind of people, they just run into this and it like breaks their brains.

00:16:57.000 They, they can't handle it.

00:16:58.000 They lose their minds over it.

00:17:00.000 So just to be clear, as recent as yesterday, I texted Blake.

00:17:03.000 I said, Blake, you're going to have to catch me up to speed.

00:17:06.000 What is the most sinister conspiracy theory?

00:17:08.000 Like, literally, I knew, right, Blake, I was like, I don't, I'm, Andrew was on the chat.

00:17:12.000 I just, I don't follow this stuff.

00:17:14.000 I don't even know where it comes from.

00:17:16.000 And I just, I guess it's ignited all this and people are going crazy and wild and they're screaming at each other and they're calling each other names and the whole things.

00:17:25.000 But Jack, let's just, I have to say that the PR aspect of this is one of the parts that stands out, right?

00:17:36.000 It just, and just remember?

00:17:38.000 Yeah, go ahead.

00:17:39.000 I was going to say, do you remember the, so the, this is the, like, this is the second time this year since that we've had the, like, the Jews in tunnels thing, right? 0.83

00:17:39.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.83

00:17:47.000 Because the first was obviously Hamas. 0.95

00:17:49.000 And you remember the PR of that where they had the IDF soldier and he took you down there.

00:17:54.000 And then there was the other one, the PR guy that responded to you at one point on Twitter.

00:17:58.000 And they went down and they were digging on their side and the Jews were digging on the other side. 0.98

00:18:02.000 Apparently, they almost missed, almost made it.

00:18:05.000 They just missed.

00:18:06.000 Never the twain shall they meet, but you've got a situation now where it's like, it's like, why don't you have one guy who just kind of goes down there and says, look, guys, here's what was going on.

00:18:18.000 I'll walk you through.

00:18:19.000 I'll be in the, you just did this in a war zone.

00:18:22.000 So if you just did this in a war zone, why can't you just do this in New York City and take a camera through and show us what was going on, tell the truth, let people in there, see what's going on and put it to rest.

00:18:34.000 You could put all of this to rest with just a little bit of transparency.

00:18:38.000 Then you have one guy come up and say, look, I know the internet is interesting.

00:18:41.000 And you could do, which, by the way, when South Park quit out the Book of Mormon, all right?

00:18:46.000 The South Park guys, when they did the Book of Mormon musical.

00:18:48.000 I remember this was in Tyler's Not On tonight, of course, but the Church of Mormon kind of responded and said, Yeah, yeah, we understand there's this big musical about the Book of Mormon, but hey, you know what?

00:18:59.000 If you like the musical, you'll love the book.

00:19:01.000 And so they used it as kind of like a funny recruitment, you know, sort of method.

00:19:06.000 You could totally do that.

00:19:07.000 You'd say, Hey, here's people that are interested in our tunnels.

00:19:10.000 You like our tunnels?

00:19:11.000 Come see what else we're about.

00:19:12.000 Come on in.

00:19:13.000 You could do that if you wanted to be transparent.

00:19:15.000 It's as simple as that.

00:19:16.000 So, but it seems like I'm just saying, it seems like they are trying to hide something.

00:19:22.000 And I'm not going to sit here and speculate why, but I'm telling you that from a PR perspective, they're being very, very cagey about this.

00:19:29.000 They're being very, very cagey.

00:19:31.000 And I will just say that we know for a fact that there are in other cities like Las Vegas and others, there are civilizations of mole people who live underground that conduct tribal warfare against each other. 0.98

00:19:46.000 You have drug, you have drug gangs down there, you have druggees down there, they find the bodies.

00:19:50.000 There are places all over the country in major cities where these mole people exist. 0.99

00:19:54.000 This is 100% real.

00:19:56.000 Go ask any police officer.

00:19:57.000 They'll tell you what I'm talking about.

00:19:58.000 New York, that's where they got the idea for Ninja Turtles from was from these like vagrants and homeless people living underground.

00:20:04.000 And they're basically mole people. 0.95

00:20:05.000 Ask anybody from New York or any major Chicago, any major city, they know about this.

00:20:10.000 And so I'm telling you, there's something going on in those tunnels.

00:20:14.000 And does anyone want to mention that they could have collapsed these buildings?

00:20:17.000 I mean, these are old, old buildings in Brooklyn, and they're going and they're building these.

00:20:21.000 That's exactly my question, Charlie.

00:20:23.000 It's like, if you dig under New York City, it's filled with pipes and sewers and electrical, like, and a lot of it's from like the 1800s, the early 1900s.

00:20:34.000 So it's there, I'm sure they would have encountered a bunch of stuff, hence why it's illegal.

00:20:38.000 There's structural issues.

00:20:38.000 You're not supposed to do that.

00:20:40.000 But, you know, the reaction, you mentioned this earlier.

00:20:44.000 I think that's like a really interesting thing.

00:20:45.000 And maybe we've got the clip of like when the police are entering and all of these Jewish members or whatever are, it's a very hurried scenario. 0.99

00:20:55.000 And to me, that was that was like a really interesting red flag just to watch how they all behaved almost in a collective way.

00:21:03.000 I don't think that's a very like run-of-the-mill mainstream American response to when the police come into your building and they all sort of like jumped around together and they're holding each other back.

00:21:13.000 It does feel sort of Mideastern almost, right?

00:21:17.000 Now, I don't know if most of these people probably were born in New York City.

00:21:22.000 I'm assuming maybe some of them came from Israel.

00:21:24.000 I'm not sure.

00:21:26.000 But the other piece of it, I think, Blake, you mentioned the word medieval in our chat one time because we were talking about the Talmud, right?

00:21:34.000 This, all of this stuff plays together because if you go down these internet black holes, a lot of it is talking about, you know, the pedophilia, all this stuff that they get into with these anti-Semitic tropes.

00:21:48.000 It's rooted in like the Talmud, right? 0.53

00:21:50.000 And the Talmud is a medieval book, essentially.

00:21:53.000 It's a dialogue.

00:21:54.000 Yeah.

00:21:54.000 Yes.

00:21:54.000 It's a dialogue.

00:21:55.000 I was explaining this to Taliban yesterday.

00:21:57.000 I know the Talmud.

00:21:58.000 Yeah.

00:21:58.000 But yes.

00:21:59.000 Well, it's back and forth.

00:22:02.000 The pages are filled with arguments of rabbis disagreeing with one another.

00:22:06.000 And so it's like, if you are not, if you don't understand what you're looking at, yeah, there's going to be some incredibly weird stuff there.

00:22:12.000 That's how you might tell it's, you know, a Jewish religious text because it's a bunch of people arguing.

00:22:16.000 That's right.

00:22:16.000 So many, so many different opinions.

00:22:19.000 And arguing over the meaning of words.

00:22:21.000 Yeah.

00:22:22.000 Yeah.

00:22:22.000 It's legal arguments back and forth.

00:22:24.000 And I think that, you know, if you look on the internet, there's a lot of that.

00:22:26.000 That they'll take something, they'll cherry pick one sort of argument that's made, and it seems very legalistic, kind of, you know, just cold.

00:22:34.000 And then you'll see another rabbi that argues the opposite position.

00:22:38.000 So I don't know.

00:22:40.000 There's a lot to go on.

00:22:41.000 And I think, you know, Blake, you said there's a lot of flair there.

00:22:44.000 There really is.

00:22:44.000 It's one of those stories that just seems to like excite the imagination, but it's weird.

00:22:49.000 It's just weird.

00:22:51.000 And, you know, I remember my one experience in New York walking on like a Saturday.

00:22:57.000 And I remember it was in Brooklyn, and they asked me to turn, like, they asked me to come into their home and turn a light off for them.

00:23:03.000 And I remember finding that just to be such a foreign thing, but they weren't even allowed to like flip a light switch on Shabbat.

00:23:10.000 So if you're not aware of Jewish culture, there's a lot of things that might strike you as odd.

00:23:16.000 And I think that just tends to inflame all the internets.

00:23:21.000 Yeah, I'll just close with this.

00:23:22.000 It's obvious that the leadership of Chabag Lubavitch knew that this tunnel existed.

00:23:26.000 Anyone who says any differently, it's just not true.

00:23:29.000 Okay.

00:23:29.000 You're not building tunnels that are like going to compete with the Shawshank redemption.

00:23:34.000 And you have like 100 people prevent the police come in and the leadership didn't know.

00:23:38.000 Okay.

00:23:39.000 Just the noise, the excavation.

00:23:40.000 They're hiring a bunch of Mexicans. 0.69

00:23:42.000 It's like, just don't lie to us.

00:23:44.000 Okay.

00:23:44.000 That's number one.

00:23:45.000 Blood on the mattress.

00:23:46.000 Right now, the excuse that they gave, I kind of buy this idea that they want to expand their dominion of their, you know, Hasidic whatever. 0.99

00:23:54.000 And okay, fine, fair enough.

00:23:57.000 But then don't tell me it's a bunch of young pure, like they're throwing these Israeli kids under the bus. 0.92

00:24:02.000 They're like, we're going to rescind all these visas because we have no idea what they're doing.

00:24:06.000 And but then where did the Mexicans come from?

00:24:08.000 How'd they pay the Mexicans? 0.99

00:24:10.000 And they lived on the rescind.

00:24:12.000 And by the way, it's like, you know, you want to talk about like immigrant rights.

00:24:14.000 Like, where's the ECL?

00:24:15.000 You got a bunch of Mexicans living in a basement for like three months? 1.00

00:24:19.000 Like, this is what's going on.

00:24:19.000 And seriously, you got a bunch of people.

00:24:21.000 It should be illegal to hire a legal.

00:24:23.000 Like, why don't we actually?

00:24:24.000 First of all, we don't know if they're illegals.

00:24:25.000 We just, they're Mexicans. 1.00

00:24:26.000 I'm just saying, though, that I'm just saying in general, we should actually prosecute people who hire illegals. 0.96

00:24:34.000 Just we said over and over.

00:24:36.000 I agree. 0.92

00:24:37.000 The question is, we're supposed to believe that a bunch of young lunatics on student visas from Israel just hired a bunch of Mexican laborers and housed them subterranean for three months on end and fed them.

00:24:47.000 Would they feed them? 0.94

00:24:48.000 You know, kosher food?

00:24:50.000 Like, I just, that's something about this, the excuses they're giving aren't adding up.

00:24:50.000 I don't think so.

00:24:55.000 And if this is all just like they're trying to find an excuse to expand their religious dominion, fine, then just own it.

00:25:01.000 But it's that, and then they're like, they're saying, oh, yeah, it's just, you know, a bunch of kids being killed.

00:25:07.000 I'm sorry.

00:25:08.000 Well, another don't build tunnels.

00:25:10.000 A dimension of this is kids go watch weird movies.

00:25:14.000 Like they don't build tunnels.

00:25:15.000 I'm sorry.

00:25:16.000 A dimension of this, I think, is that with these very traditional communities, they're kind of not, they're sort of just not a part of regular society and its institutions.

00:25:25.000 So it's very upsetting to a lot of them that like the police are getting involved, that, you know, all these public authorities are getting involved.

00:25:32.000 These groups tend to have their own institutions.

00:25:34.000 Like, you know, they have their own courts.

00:25:36.000 Like you go to your Orthodox Jewish religious court if you're going to get a divorce.

00:25:40.000 You don't like get divorced through the normal legal system.

00:25:43.000 And so I think there's a dimension of that where they're just very much eager to kind of keep, you know, keep the authorities out of this.

00:25:50.000 And you see this pop up in, you know, their other communities.

00:25:52.000 And it sometimes causes friction.

00:25:53.000 Like in their colonies in upstate New York, you'll have the friction between their school system and the public school system, their kind of way of life and everyone else's way of life in the area.

00:26:04.000 You know, it's a recurring thing that pops up if you bother to pay attention to it, which I don't blame most people for not bothering.

00:26:11.000 This is very true that they kind of police their own.

00:26:15.000 There is a little bit, I don't want to say a no-go zone, but the police don't necessarily over-monitor because it's low crime.

00:26:22.000 It's very familiar.

00:26:26.000 And so the fact that the police showed up really bothered them, evidently, which is why they responded the way they did.

00:26:34.000 And so I guess it remains a mystery.

00:26:36.000 I am curious, guys.

00:26:37.000 You can email us, freedom at charliekirk.com, what your theories are regarding this.

00:26:41.000 This seems just to be a religious expansion of a Chabad.

00:26:47.000 And that's, and they are ashamed they got called.

00:26:50.000 So this guy.

00:26:53.000 Wait, I got to read this one comment.

00:26:54.000 It goes, the guy says, Bush writer, he says, when I heard the story the first time, I said, those don't look like tunnelers. 0.99

00:27:03.000 The joke before the next one is, there's nothing more disgusting in the world than fake Catholics like Pozo. 1.00

00:27:09.000 Oh, yeah. 0.99

00:27:10.000 There you go, buddy.

00:27:10.000 There you go.

00:27:12.000 I think so.

00:27:12.000 Totally fake.

00:27:13.000 Yep.

00:27:13.000 I think somebody is.

00:27:14.000 I love it.

00:27:15.000 We need to.

00:27:16.000 Someone should ask the Mexicans. 1.00

00:27:18.000 Where are they?

00:27:19.000 Yeah.

00:27:19.000 We should.

00:27:19.000 I want to get them in.

00:27:20.000 I want to go and we should go up.

00:27:22.000 Maybe I should head up.

00:27:23.000 Maybe I should go.

00:27:24.000 I want to go in the tunnels.

00:27:26.000 Charlie, I'm going in the tunnels.

00:27:27.000 I'm going to conduct a thought crime spelunking expedition of the tunnels.

00:27:32.000 We should just go.

00:27:33.000 We should just go in.

00:27:34.000 Why not?

00:27:36.000 We may never know the truth.

00:27:39.000 And like Shawshank Redemption, tunnels just go.

00:27:43.000 And they end up in what they call it Zuat Teneu in Shawshank Redemption, right?

00:27:47.000 In Zuat Teneu, Mexico.

00:27:49.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

00:27:52.000 He hides the thing under the T or whatever.

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00:28:57.000 So speaking of kind of all of that topic when it comes to American Judaism, there is another story that we want to do.

00:29:05.000 This is the other one.

00:29:06.000 So segue.

00:29:08.000 I think this is a funnier story, actually.

00:29:11.000 So just the other day, a bunch of people in Hollywood signed a letter.

00:29:15.000 Almost 300 people signed this letter.

00:29:17.000 And it's an open letter to the Academy of Motion Pictures and whatever their full name is.

00:29:21.000 The people who run the Oscars vote on the Oscars.

00:29:24.000 And what they're demanding is they're demanding that in Hollywood, that Jews be recognized as an underrepresented group in Hollywood.

00:29:32.000 Quote, while we applaud the Academy's efforts to increase diverse and authentic storytelling, an inclusion effort that excludes Jews is both steeped in and misunderstands anti-Semitism.

00:29:46.000 The absence of Jews from underrepresented groups implies that Jews are overrepresented in films, which is simply untrue.

00:29:56.000 Now, just as a preliminary.

00:29:59.000 Wait, wait, you're saying it implies that they're overrepresented or underrepresented.

00:30:03.000 It implies that they are, it implies they are overrepresented.

00:30:05.000 That is what the letter says, that since they're not included as underrepresented, the implication is they're overrepresented.

00:30:10.000 And the letter says, this is false.

00:30:13.000 Now, just as a preliminary, I went to the Wikipedia page.

00:30:16.000 You guys can bring this up on the screen and I looked up list of Jewish Academy Award winners and nominees.

00:30:23.000 And you can see scrolling here.

00:30:25.000 This is just for best actor in a leading role.

00:30:27.000 Do you guys have that on screen?

00:30:29.000 So red is nominated.

00:30:30.000 Green is one.

00:30:31.000 We have, you know, Paul Lucas won in 1943.

00:30:36.000 We have Richard Dreyfus won in 77.

00:30:38.000 Dustin Hoffman has won it twice.

00:30:40.000 Paul Newman, Michael Douglas, Daniel Day-Lewis, Adrian Brody, Sean Penn has won twice, Joaquin Phoenix won for Joker.

00:30:49.000 You know, there's a pretty good number of them for Gal Gadot.

00:30:53.000 Yeah, Gal Godot for an actual Israeli. 1.00

00:30:55.000 And that counts.

00:30:58.000 Yeah, I'd assume that would count.

00:31:01.000 And, you know, this is actresses. 1.00

00:31:02.000 They have a good number of them.

00:31:04.000 And, you know, keep in mind, we've had about not even 100 years of the Oscars.

00:31:08.000 So they're about 2% of the U.S.

00:31:10.000 So if they were fully, you know, just represented, they would have two wins in 100 years.

00:31:15.000 Is Daniel Day-Lewis Jewish?

00:31:17.000 According to this list, he is.

00:31:19.000 So three wins.

00:31:20.000 I find that hard to believe.

00:31:22.000 Yeah.

00:31:23.000 Check his early life.

00:31:24.000 Check his ETH.

00:31:25.000 Got to check the early life page.

00:31:27.000 And then, you know, best director, unsurprisingly, a lot of best directors.

00:31:31.000 And what's Spielberg?

00:31:34.000 Is Steven Spielberg Jewish?

00:31:37.000 Is he, what is he?

00:31:38.000 He's got to be older.

00:31:39.000 Is he Jewish?

00:31:41.000 I'm pretty, pretty sure.

00:31:43.000 Pretty sure he's Irish.

00:31:44.000 Yeah.

00:31:45.000 You know, Mormon, big, big Mormon. 0.97

00:31:45.000 Yeah. 0.97

00:31:48.000 Spielberg, big, big Mormon. 0.98

00:31:50.000 And so somebody who's lived in Los Angeles, I can, uh, I can attest that that accusation against Hollywood of being anti-Jew is false.

00:32:00.000 Yeah.

00:32:01.000 And what's funny about this, though, is what's really playing into this and what I don't think they're saying out loud is in 2020 with George Floyd and everything, you got this big push.

00:32:12.000 You know, it's a lib area, lib city, huge, you know, the diversity push was everywhere, but it hit Hollywood really big.

00:32:20.000 And what's happened is if you're already a big name in Hollywood, you're fine.

00:32:25.000 You know, the people who can headline a film still headline films.

00:32:28.000 The big directors are still big directors.

00:32:30.000 But what it's really messed up is the intake.

00:32:33.000 You know, who's getting new opportunities as actors?

00:32:36.000 Who's getting a new chance to run a show?

00:32:39.000 And it's all diversity stuff.

00:32:41.000 You know, they're handing it all out based on identity politics stuff and Jews are not being considered underrepresented.

00:32:47.000 And so they're just getting classed with white people.

00:32:49.000 And you're basically having this total systematic exclusion of white people from Hollywood as libs want to do. 0.87

00:32:55.000 They're anti-white.

00:32:56.000 And so what I think they are seeing is this is their way of kind of expressing the fact that what is very true, which is that Jews are getting caught up in the whole keep white people out of Hollywood thing, which they're fine with as long as they're not part of it. 0.77

00:33:09.000 Exactly.

00:33:10.000 And so, you know, the headline we have on the bottom is Jedi, J-E-D-I.

00:33:13.000 And, you know, this is what some people have worried we might get in the wake of, you know, the Harvard backlash, all this other stuff, you know, the anti-DEI push.

00:33:21.000 What we want is we'd love for liberal and moderate Jews to turn against DEI because they realize it's bad. 0.59

00:33:28.000 The possibility that people worry about is you'll get this sort of devil's bargain where DEI, diversity, equity, inclusion, will become Jedi, as the joke goes, which is just add Jewish people to the DEI hierarchy as an oppressed class.

00:33:42.000 And certainly they have a lot of claim to being oppressed in history, but especially in America and in the last century of America, there is really no group that does more to vindicate America as a land of opportunity.

00:33:55.000 That they came here poor.

00:33:56.000 They were enormously successful.

00:33:57.000 They are enormously successful.

00:33:59.000 And they are in America's elite institutions, whether it's Congress or business, Wall Street, Hollywood, the Academy, all the Ivy Leagues.

00:34:07.000 They're overrepresented and largely because they deserve to be.

00:34:11.000 And it's just very bizarre to have this turnaround.

00:34:13.000 And you're seeing, they claim in this letter that, you know, it's a mistake to view Jews as white.

00:34:18.000 And sorry, guys.

00:34:19.000 But notice that the AD, it's from the ADL.

00:34:22.000 And yes, we have that.

00:34:23.000 I'm not sure what the number is.

00:34:24.000 Jonathan Greenblott, yeah.

00:34:25.000 Yeah, I was just going to say that I didn't think this was that big. 0.99

00:34:28.000 I thought it was just some stupid Hollywood thing. 0.96

00:34:30.000 And then I was like, wait, the ADL is sharing this out as if this is like some serious dearth in the United States, some serious disparity that there aren't enough Jewish actors being represented in Hollywood. 0.98

00:34:44.000 And when even the picture he's shown are like, you know, very well-known actors and actresses.

00:34:51.000 I'm like, I don't, I don't.

00:34:52.000 Do you want to read the whole thing for us?

00:34:55.000 Just for people who can't read it, Jack?

00:34:57.000 Here we go.

00:34:58.000 Yeah, go ahead.

00:34:59.000 It's critical for any push for diversity in any industry to be inclusive of Jews.

00:35:05.000 If your project of inclusion perpetuates the exclusion of Jews, you are failing.

00:35:12.000 So we applaud the many celebrities for their courage in standing up, speaking out, and writing to the academy to demand change.

00:35:19.000 That's from Jonathan Greenblatt of the ADL, total fraud, total fraud.

00:35:24.000 So basically, as somebody, like I said, who has lived in Los Angeles, I can just tell you, A, it's not true.

00:35:31.000 I mean, everybody jokes about it.

00:35:32.000 I mean, even though you're not supposed to, everybody jokes about it.

00:35:35.000 Lots of Jews in Hollywood.

00:35:36.000 Everybody knows it.

00:35:38.000 And here's what I will say.

00:35:40.000 I used to have such great pride in Hollywood as an export from America from Steve McQueen, the golden era of cinema, all this stuff.

00:35:47.000 I mean, it was such a point of American pride that Hollywood was the best in the world.

00:35:53.000 And these people are just ruining it.

00:35:55.000 And it's like Jonathan Greenblatt, who's sitting, goes on MSNBC and says, I'm mad at all this anti-Semitism.

00:36:01.000 I can't, I'm going to protect our people and all this stuff.

00:36:03.000 It's like, listen, man, you are actually now officially, once again, part of the problem.

00:36:09.000 You have just said, essentially, how about we get more of this DEI nonsense, this racist DEI, and let's just include the Jews. 0.82

00:36:16.000 And then it's even more upsetting because we had the Ackmans of the world basically saying, hey, my eyes are open to the fact that this is all an anti-white movement, anti-Christian movement. 0.85

00:36:27.000 And then you've got this other group like the Jonathan Greenblatts that are taking us backwards.

00:36:33.000 So it's this fork in the cultural road right now.

00:36:36.000 And to your point earlier, Blake, it's like what we want to see is an end to all this stuff.

00:36:41.000 This is just such an endorsement of it.

00:36:43.000 And it's really extremely disappointing because not only Hollywood's losing, but we're losing our momentum as to what could have happened after October 7th.

00:36:51.000 But mind you, instead of saying we should get rid of DEI, they accept the premise of DEI and they want preferential treatment.

00:36:59.000 And they're perfectly cool.

00:37:00.000 They want J-E-D-I. 0.99

00:37:02.000 They're perfectly fine with being the anti-white stuff. 0.97

00:37:05.000 They're cool with it. 0.68

00:37:06.000 They're enthusiastic, but they don't want to be looped in with white people. 0.98

00:37:09.000 They would rather have active discrimination as long as they get treatment. 0.50

00:37:14.000 I think this is morally repugnant.

00:37:16.000 Of course it is.

00:37:17.000 What's really funny is, especially with this letter where they're saying the claim Jewish people aren't white, that could be really funny if they succeeded and you started having this measure in statistics, you know, like the whole, you know, the press loves to come out, you know, like, you know, white people versus non-white people in XYZ stat. 0.78

00:37:34.000 And yeah, what if they actually started to do that, you know, whether in Hollywood or academia?

00:37:40.000 Like, what if, what if you actually ran the numbers at Harvard and they had to, and they considered they counted Jewish students as non-white and then they were releasing stats on like what the percentage of students is at Harvard.

00:37:51.000 Who would actually come out as the most underrepresented group?

00:37:53.000 And it might very well actually just be normal white people.

00:37:57.000 The question is, and they can't answer it.

00:37:58.000 What is a white person then?

00:37:59.000 Yeah, yeah, exactly.

00:38:00.000 What is a white person?

00:38:01.000 Someone from Europe? 0.96

00:38:02.000 Well, most Jews are from Europe. 0.63

00:38:03.000 Yeah.

00:38:04.000 They're most, I mean, like going back a thousand years, there's a lot of huge Jewish communities that have been in Europe.

00:38:08.000 So what exactly is a white person?

00:38:10.000 Can they answer that?

00:38:11.000 They've never been, you're not even allowed to say white on certain cable television shows.

00:38:15.000 And increasingly, people aren't saying it.

00:38:17.000 It's a weird fact.

00:38:18.000 Like one of the things that happened in the 2020 census is there's a huge explosion in the percentage of Hispanics who list their race as other because Hispanic's not a race on the census.

00:38:29.000 It's all made up.

00:38:30.000 It's an ethnicity.

00:38:32.000 You know, the same, you know, you're the same ethnicity, whether you're from Spain or Cuba or Argentina or Mexico, you know, whatever, or the Dominican Republic.

00:38:40.000 And there was this huge surge in it because it used to be common that Hispanics would say they're white, but also Hispanic ethnically.

00:38:49.000 And now there is this flight from white, as you might want to call it, because the word's out that people don't like white people.

00:38:55.000 They discriminate against them and things.

00:38:57.000 If you're not white, you can get better school admissions, better job opportunities. 0.99

00:39:01.000 You know, there's all these scholarships available to you.

00:39:02.000 So everyone's running away from it.

00:39:04.000 And now you can see, even in Hollywood, they're like, get away, get away.

00:39:07.000 The final point, Jack, is that these Jewish groups are saying that it feels so bad to be discriminated against.

00:39:13.000 Please keep discriminating, but not against us.

00:39:16.000 Jack.

00:39:17.000 You know, I have a quick, I have a question for Blake because I think there is a bigger point here, which kind of goes to what Charlie was saying: is that you are starting, and you and I discussed this before on the Chronicles of Revolution in the 60s, where you do now have this burgeoning group of like white Americans defining themselves as white because they're starting to understand group identity in this racial sense because it's been forced on them by all of this DEI nonsense. 0.53

00:39:48.000 That now, suddenly, before like you might get people who say, like, okay, we're Poles, okay, we're Irish, okay, we're Italian, et cetera, these other things, but you don't really have people, you know, which is still more of a European construct, but in the American construct, because of the way the demographics are going, and of course, the way the ruling class is going, the ruling ideology in this country is going, you do see this sort of burgeoning white group identity in the United States.

00:40:12.000 Yeah, it's actually genuinely sick what the left has done.

00:40:16.000 Because if you took any group pretty much on planet Earth, and like, I don't think any group on planet Earth was more genuinely, authentically post-racial than like ordinary middle-class white Americans in 20th, late 20th century and early 21st century America. 0.61

00:40:36.000 That, I mean, first of all, like Jack said, you know, they've largely kind of left behind their old like ethnic character. 0.99

00:40:42.000 Like white Americans don't really think of themselves as German or Italian or Irish, except sort of in a very superficial, like, oh, my grandmother was from XYZ sort of way.

00:40:52.000 And other than that, they had very little racial consciousness and they were very enthusiastic about a post-racial world, treat everyone equally, and they would be happy with that.

00:41:01.000 And instead, what the left has done is come in and said, no, everything is going to be super aggressively racialized.

00:41:07.000 We will talk about race all the time.

00:41:08.000 Race is super important.

00:41:10.000 White privilege, this, white, everything that. 0.73

00:41:13.000 And, you know, race, And they're forcing everyone to be obsessed with this.

00:41:18.000 And some people will go along with this ideological project.

00:41:21.000 And that's where you get, you know, these self-abasing white people who like are constantly apologizing for themselves.

00:41:26.000 But that's never going to be all people.

00:41:29.000 And especially as they get more sinister and nasty about it, you're going to get, well, one, you get people who just pretend that they're not white anymore and they claim a new race.

00:41:38.000 And then you also just get people who say, okay, if you're going to insist I'm white, well, I'm not going to go along with the idea that I'm bad for that.

00:41:44.000 And then you're going to get white racial politics.

00:41:47.000 And congratulations.

00:41:48.000 You now took, you know, a relatively post-racial America and you made it a hyper-racial voice.

00:41:55.000 Exactly.

00:41:55.000 That's exactly right.

00:41:57.000 Jack, go ahead.

00:41:58.000 Well, I just agree.

00:42:01.000 Yeah, so I have a thought on this.

00:42:02.000 I think this ADL piece specifically, where you have Jonathan Greenblatt choosing to essentially endorse DEI, go with the flow and pick the ruling regime shows where the power is at currently, right?

00:42:18.000 Because I said earlier, there was an MSNBC clip that we don't have, but he said he essentially got emotional on MSNBC saying, I'm going to fight for our kids and I'm going to fight for our people.

00:42:29.000 And what's underlying that is a sense of sectarianism that I think we're talking about on the show right now, that it's actually the ruling ideology.

00:42:38.000 He's picking which way the wind is blowing.

00:42:41.000 He's looking at the way the argument's going.

00:42:42.000 He's saying, listen, there's some voices that are saying NDEI.

00:42:45.000 You got Elon Musk and Bill Ackman. 0.99

00:42:47.000 Other than that, the ruling elites that he hobnobs with that give him his source of power and the ADL, their source of power, they're completely bought into this crap. 0.95

00:42:56.000 So he's literally like sticking his finger up in the air, feeling which way it's going and saying, hey, I can't beat him. 0.95

00:43:02.000 I need to join him.

00:43:03.000 And so that just shows how much work there is still to be done on the DEI front.

00:43:07.000 I mean, I was last week, I think I was on the show saying how hopeful I was about it, but this is a massive, massive setback and like enough to make you cynical because how can you not see strategically, if you're Jewish right now, why would you not look at the 50% plus of the population that's white, Christian, Protestant, whatever, Catholic, and say, hey, I want to be their friends and I want to include them in a post-racial, pro-sectarian America. 0.67

00:43:32.000 But he's not.

00:43:33.000 He's choosing the other way because he sees the strategic advantage in it.

00:43:37.000 And that's pretty disheartening.

00:43:39.000 So we've got a lot of work to do.

00:43:40.000 The ADL is effectively saying nothing wrong with hating certain races.

00:43:45.000 Nothing wrong with preferential treatment with certain races.

00:43:48.000 What's wrong is that we're on the wrong side of the equation.

00:43:51.000 So just please continue your hatred of a certain race.

00:43:55.000 Continue your apartheid regime. 0.94

00:43:57.000 Continue it.

00:43:58.000 But we want to be on the protected side.

00:44:01.000 We want to be on the enforcement side, not on the recipient of DEI.

00:44:06.000 That's what ADL is saying.

00:44:08.000 ADL is saying that hating races is okay.

00:44:10.000 ADL is saying that stereotyping is okay.

00:44:13.000 They're saying prejudice is okay.

00:44:15.000 Instead, they should say, get rid of all preferential treatment.

00:44:18.000 Get rid of all DEI.

00:44:19.000 Treat people as colorblind, treat it as a meritocracy. 0.65

00:44:22.000 But ADL and their donors and their staff and Jonathan Greenblatt, they want Jews to get special treatment the way blacks currently get special treatment in America.

00:44:34.000 I mean, you know, if Mossad still had their like sort of assassination program, like in that Steelman Spielberg movie, Munich, which was nominated for an Oscar, I believe it's a good number of Oscars.

00:44:43.000 It's a good movie.

00:44:44.000 Probably wouldn't have gotten those nominations if Hollywood was anti-Semitic, but I don't think they are.

00:44:49.000 And but anyway, you know, if they still had that program, I feel like, you know, let's say Mossad has this big picture, like we need to stop global anti-Semitism, you know, because it's a threat to Israel's existence and all that.

00:45:02.000 I think they would have to take out Jonathan Greenblatt.

00:45:04.000 They're just like, this guy is a threat to the state of Israel because he's making people hate us.

00:45:08.000 He's got to go.

00:45:10.000 And that would be a pretty good use of their time. 0.81

00:45:13.000 But he's the worst, man. 0.97

00:45:14.000 He's pretty bad. 0.95

00:45:15.000 Jonathan Greenblatt and the ADL create anti-Semitism.

00:45:19.000 100%.

00:45:19.000 It fills me with rage reading that tweet.

00:45:21.000 Honestly, as I was reading it, I was trying to keep a straight face, but it fills me with rage.

00:45:25.000 I mean, you saw me in the chat today.

00:45:26.000 I got so pissed seeing that thing because it's just like you have this opportunity to make a whole bunch of people your friends and to get into the fight together with millions and millions of just kind, decent, good Americans, post-racial Americans.

00:45:41.000 And instead, you do this stuff and you pander to the apartheid state and to the DI racism.

00:45:46.000 And there's this opening to just choose another route.

00:45:49.000 There's this, who knows how many opportunities there are going to be post-October 7th. 0.95

00:45:54.000 This is the moment to spring into action, get rid of all this crap, and we can't even do it. 0.88

00:45:59.000 It just bothers me. 0.97

00:46:01.000 Jackie, I have a question.

00:46:03.000 So I have a question.

00:46:04.000 Yeah.

00:46:05.000 You want to talk about groups that are overrepresented?

00:46:07.000 When's the last time you saw anything out of Hollywood that didn't have a gay character in it?

00:46:12.000 Never.

00:46:13.000 Mandatory.

00:46:13.000 Anything.

00:46:15.000 2013.

00:46:16.000 20 modern Hollywood.

00:46:18.000 So I am pure and untainted.

00:46:19.000 Or that you were aware of.

00:46:21.000 Charlie, I know you know what I'm talking about.

00:46:23.000 It's literally 100% of content.

00:46:27.000 In fairness.

00:46:28.000 And even historical pieces, even period pieces, when you go back, suddenly they'll make a character gay or they'll throw something. 0.97

00:46:36.000 Yeah, the Godwit is. 0.86

00:46:37.000 In fairness, if it's about representation, you know, it seems like young Modern America is charitably 90, 95% gay. 0.72

00:46:46.000 So you'd have to have a lot of gay characters in their movies.

00:46:50.000 I was watching Gilded Age because I've heard good things and it's a period piece.

00:46:56.000 And I got like four episodes in. 0.84

00:46:58.000 And then there was a gay guy there. 0.98

00:47:00.000 Gay, you know, right there. 0.99

00:47:02.000 Aristocrat. 0.99

00:47:03.000 That's where you went wrong, Andrew.

00:47:05.000 You guys are watching new shows.

00:47:06.000 New shows are created to propagandize you.

00:47:08.000 There's been a hundred years of good shows.

00:47:10.000 Just go watch Brideshead Revisited or something.

00:47:12.000 Watch Brideshead Revisited, the old BBC show.

00:47:14.000 There's like a million good BBC series from before Britain went downhill.

00:47:18.000 And you could watch years of that.

00:47:20.000 You could watch years of good movies.

00:47:23.000 And instead, everyone's got to have something new.

00:47:25.000 And so they watch new HBO shows.

00:47:27.000 And then they're like, wow, this HBO show is really lib.

00:47:31.000 What did you expect?

00:47:32.000 It's made by HBO in the 2020s.

00:47:36.000 I want to tell you guys, there's a great.

00:47:39.000 I always got to throw out there's a great Russian show out right now.

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00:47:45.000 TheboysWord.com.

00:47:46.000 You can go see it.

00:47:46.000 It's all about street gangs in the 1980s.

00:47:49.000 No, there was no one who's gay in it, but it's just awesome.

00:47:52.000 Tanya and I watched it.

00:47:53.000 It was so good.

00:47:54.000 Can we watch it if we don't speak whatever strange language you're fluent in?

00:47:59.000 They have subtitles.

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00:49:00.000 What do we have next?

00:49:01.000 More race stuff.

00:49:02.000 All right.

00:49:03.000 So we're going back.

00:49:03.000 We said we'd talk about this with the Yemen story.

00:49:06.000 This came out on military.com, one of the military news sites.

00:49:10.000 And we'll just get right to it.

00:49:12.000 I'll read it aloud here.

00:49:13.000 You guys can put it on screen too if you want.

00:49:15.000 So the headline is: Army sees sharp decline in white recruits.

00:49:21.000 The Army's recruiting of white soldiers has dropped significantly in the last half decade, five years, according to internal data reviewed by military.com.

00:49:30.000 The decline accounts for much of the service's historic recruitment slump that has become the subject of increasing concern for Army leadership and Capitol Hill.

00:49:40.000 The shift in demographics for incoming recruits would be irrelevant to war planners, except it coincides with an overall shortfall of 10,000 recruits for the Army in 2023.

00:49:50.000 They continue further down here.

00:49:53.000 Let's see.

00:49:54.000 The rate at which white recruitment has fallen far outpaces nationwide demographic shifts, data experts interviewed noted.

00:50:03.000 They don't see a single cause for the recruiting problem, but pointed to a confluence of issues for army recruiting, including partisan scrutiny of the service, a growing obesity epidemic, and an underfunded public education system. 0.89

00:50:19.000 Garbage. 0.83

00:50:20.000 That's what they came up with. 1.00

00:50:21.000 They came up with obesity epidemic, which impacts non-white Americans more than white ones, and public education system, which impacts non-white Americans.

00:50:29.000 The Department of Defense, obesity is not exactly doesn't disallow you.

00:50:35.000 It's just, it's so much.

00:50:35.000 It's the fattest generals I've ever seen in my life.

00:50:38.000 Well, Blake, I um, so I just wanted to add a little something.

00:50:41.000 So I've got, I've been, of course, blocked already on Twitter by the author of this, uh, the article there, um, uh, Steve Bainen, because I found a tweet.

00:50:50.000 Steve Bainan, really, Steve Bay.

00:50:54.000 Steve Bainen, not, your favorite podcaster.

00:50:57.000 Steve Bainen.

00:51:00.000 And I said, and I pull, of course, I screenshotted it.

00:51:03.000 And of course I did a hey, hi, Steve.

00:51:05.000 Why did you delete this?

00:51:06.000 Because the tweet he he wrote and then deleted when it started going viral, he said, the data are complicated, but this correlates with males participating less in society, such as the labor force and white males dropping from college.

00:51:20.000 More, most importantly, this lines up almost perfectly with conservative pundits and lawmakers using the military as a conservative, as a partisan cudgel.

00:51:30.000 It's like, so he's basically saying, he's like, this is exactly what conservative pundits.

00:51:34.000 The data found that the conservative pundits, like everybody here on Thought Crime and all of our respective shows, were exactly correct.

00:51:43.000 Everything that we were saying about the data, about male participation in the labor force, particularly white male in the labor force, in college and in the military, 100% correct. 0.98

00:51:55.000 But he's like, he's like, he deletes the tweet because he suddenly realizes, wait, I can't actually let, you know, Pozo and Jack Posobiec and Charlie Kirk and these guys and Steve Bennon actually, you know, prove that they were exactly right.

00:52:10.000 But it's hilarious, Jack.

00:52:11.000 What he's actually saying is that it's because we started talking about this issue, because we noticed there was issues.

00:52:18.000 It's actually our fault for talking about it, right? 0.99

00:52:22.000 It's our fault for noticing that there was an anti-white bias, that the promotion structure was all screwed up, that they were doing their DEI crap and their CRT crap and their white rage crap. 0.99

00:52:32.000 All of this stuff is hilarious because it's the old conservatives pounce argument, right? 0.99

00:52:37.000 So we're somehow to blame because you guys started putting race above merit because you guys started promoting wokies instead of people that were actually gung-ho for better than that. 0.98

00:52:48.000 It's even sick.

00:52:48.000 There's an expectation that whites are going to go fight the wars for you.

00:52:51.000 Yeah.

00:52:52.000 There's this expectation.

00:52:53.000 Yeah, it plays a huge role in that.

00:52:55.000 And they are, like, it's been pointed out, you know, in Iraq, in all of our conflicts, it's still like white people who die disproportionately in the military.

00:53:03.000 They were always the gung-ho ones.

00:53:06.000 They were the gung-ho ones who would actually be like, yeah, you know, my father fought in World War II.

00:53:10.000 My grandfather fought in World War I. My great-grandfather fought in Civil War, possibly for the Confederacy.

00:53:16.000 And, you know, we have this long tradition of not just serving.

00:53:19.000 Lieutenant Dancing.

00:53:23.000 Not just serving, but fighting specifically.

00:53:27.000 And what the military is getting instead, like the people who want to sign up are the ones who are like, yeah, you know, if you fall, if you do these things, you can be a rear echelon logistics guy.

00:53:38.000 And then you can claim 75% disability due to your hearing loss and get a pension.

00:53:43.000 And there's a lot of people like those who joined the military.

00:53:46.000 And good for them, I guess.

00:53:48.000 But a military does need kind of these gung-ho people who want to fight.

00:53:52.000 And there is no group of people in America who are more alienated by the modern regime we have erected than the kind of people who would do that.

00:54:00.000 You know, that Scotch-Irish born fighting type of person, you know, they like to fight. 1.00

00:54:05.000 And now, you know, the country craps on these people all the time.

00:54:10.000 Their way of life is totally blown to pieces.

00:54:14.000 Their home life is a mess.

00:54:15.000 So you have, you know, I kind of think the answer is partly true, that it is a reflection of this disintegration among like lower class white people.

00:54:25.000 That these drugs, there's a lot of drugs, there's a lot of obesity, there's a lot of, you know, there's some crime and stuff.

00:54:31.000 That's all real.

00:54:32.000 And the ones who get through all of that, nevertheless, are alienated from the institutions of our society.

00:54:39.000 So why would they sign up?

00:54:40.000 I know some people whose children are entering the military these days.

00:54:44.000 And it's far more common today that, you know, they'll say, yeah, this is not because they're doing, they're not doing it for gung-ho patriotism.

00:54:50.000 They just see, I can learn useful skills and I can get ahead professionally.

00:54:54.000 This is how you learn the stuff you need to do if you need to eventually, you know, start your own alternative society, even.

00:54:59.000 And that's how much.

00:55:00.000 And get paid for it.

00:55:01.000 Yeah, and get paid.

00:55:02.000 And it's a much more common justification than I just, you know, love America and want to serve America.

00:55:07.000 So as the, as, as the, the, you know, I guess resident, I guess, vet on the show or, or whatever, not that I like try to wear that on my sleeve or pull like the Graham Allen stuff.

00:55:18.000 Um, love Graham, no, you know, no, no issue with Graham or buddies.

00:55:22.000 But it's just, um, you know, I, people do come to me a lot when, especially if I'm speaking at colleges and they'll, they'll talk to me or at a turning point event and they'll come and say, hey, I'm thinking about joining the military.

00:55:31.000 I want to join Intel, want to go the route you did.

00:55:34.000 What should I do?

00:55:35.000 And I always tell people, I 100%, you know, tell them, make sure you go into a role that does not involve combat.

00:55:42.000 Make sure you get what you're getting out of it.

00:55:43.000 You put in what you're going to get out because they're going to get their pound of flesh out of you.

00:55:47.000 So you go right ahead and you make sure that you sign up for every class, you get all the college, you use your GI bill that you can get out of it.

00:55:53.000 And, you know, go in for like cybersecurity, go in for language or something like that.

00:55:56.000 I know somebody just got in for language.

00:55:59.000 But when it comes to actually like fighting or going into a combat role, like you're going to go off, they will send you this military to send you off to die in some godforsaken desert, get blown up or some godforsaken desert.

00:56:09.000 And I got friends that are there right now.

00:56:11.000 And, you know, I'll just say in harm's way tonight.

00:56:17.000 And, you know, when you really look at the thing, it's just for what?

00:56:20.000 You know, these, these, the Houthis are not targeting U.S. civilians here at home.

00:56:26.000 They're not targeting your families.

00:56:28.000 They're not targeting our children.

00:56:29.000 They're not targeting your wives.

00:56:31.000 And so, you know, we look, we go around the world looking for monsters to fight.

00:56:36.000 We look for places to invade.

00:56:38.000 And it's just not worth it.

00:56:39.000 It's totally not worth it.

00:56:40.000 But if you look at this as Blake is saying, it's a jobs program, 100%.

00:56:45.000 And I think people are missing.

00:56:47.000 I mean, if you think of your average white Anglo-Saxon Protestant male, the whole culture, everything's rigged against them. 0.68

00:56:53.000 Why would they want to go into a combat zone where they very well might be scapegoated?

00:56:58.000 And you hear this from people that served in the Vietnam War all the time.

00:57:02.000 There was a lot of anti-white racism and there was also anti-black racism.

00:57:06.000 And there were times where white recruits and/black recruits did not always feel safe being in a platoon when there was somebody that didn't like their skin color and vice versa.

00:57:14.000 Why would a white person want to go into the military right now with generals that don't like them putting into almost be like a human shield?

00:57:22.000 We just disengage, not to mention the vaccine issue, where the last kind of gasp of individuality, I guess you could say, of people has said, you know, actually, I'm not going to do that.

00:57:32.000 I'm not going to go take the vaccine.

00:57:34.000 I'm not, it turns out that white America, what's last, what's left of it, is the last that actually has the testosterone, the spine to say, yeah, I'm not going to serve in that military. 0.97

00:57:44.000 Now, they're trying to say, oh, whites don't care about the country. 0.91

00:57:47.000 That's obviously not true. 0.76

00:57:49.000 The military's become a joke.

00:57:50.000 It's become a mockery.

00:57:51.000 It doesn't mean what it used to mean anything close to it.

00:57:53.000 It's really sad.

00:57:54.000 To tie it back to a conversation we've had before, it's not just that it's becoming a joke, though it is.

00:57:59.000 You know, we had that discussion, like, oh, what if a civil war in America actually happened?

00:58:03.000 And there is this sort of persistent conservative belief, like that, oh, well, you know, the military is still on our side.

00:58:09.000 Like, you know, there's this vast conservative military apparatus.

00:58:13.000 And we are seeing that kind of disappear before us.

00:58:16.000 That, you know, a lot of conservatives, they're not signing up for the military.

00:58:20.000 They're quitting over the vaccine.

00:58:22.000 They're not getting promoted.

00:58:23.000 And the military's promotions are very politicized.

00:58:26.000 And you're seeing sort of the death of the military as a traditionally conservative institution happen before us.

00:58:34.000 And we're going to get something very strange.

00:58:36.000 And it's definitely not a given that a military will be a conservative institution just because it's, you know, rah-rah or military or whatever.

00:58:43.000 There have been not rah-rah anymore. 1.00

00:58:45.000 There have been countries where the military, the organized military, is a radical left-wing entity.

00:58:50.000 In revolutionary France, the army was perceived as like the most revolutionary organ.

00:58:59.000 And it was like this would be what would stop anyone from, you know, taking it over.

00:59:02.000 And that was the fear Napoleon had to worry about.

00:59:05.000 In China, the Red Army was kind of this vanguard left-wing entity.

00:59:10.000 And it sort of shifted right during the Cultural Revolution.

00:59:12.000 And so then they had to intervene to stop that.

00:59:15.000 There's all sorts of things like that.

00:59:17.000 And so we could see that with our military.

00:59:19.000 We could see it is possible to imagine, or actually a good example, this is much more kind of similar to us in Turkey.

00:59:26.000 In Turkey, it was always that the army was the stronghold of Kamalism, of Kemal Ataturk, the sort of guy who founded modern, more liberal Turkey. 0.50

00:59:35.000 And they were like, over, they tried to overthrow the government, you might remember, about a decade ago because they thought it was kind of getting too conservative, too Islamist.

00:59:43.000 And this failed.

00:59:43.000 And Turkey's only gone more that direction since.

00:59:46.000 So what if we have that kind of military in America?

00:59:49.000 The military where the joint chiefs, you know, maybe Trump is president and he's doing something to secure the border.

00:59:54.000 And there's, you know, maybe there's like a constitutional crisis, they'll call it.

00:59:58.000 And you'd have a military that would step in and say, we're going to step up for American democracy and, you know, just impose some liberal solution because they're a liberal organization now.

01:00:09.000 It's well, yeah, go ahead.

01:00:11.000 Yeah, Charlie, I was going to say our experience with the Minot Air Force base.

01:00:16.000 Yep.

01:00:16.000 Remember?

01:00:17.000 I mean, so they put out the, that was the commanders at that Air Force base that put out a text message to everybody saying, hey, don't associate with turning point action, this far-right group or whatever.

01:00:28.000 It was like a Lincoln Day dinner, the equivalent of it. 0.52

01:00:31.000 And what's interesting about that, I was actually the guy who called the whistleblower that we got in touch with who's inside that Air Force base.

01:00:39.000 So I was speaking with him and he gave me the full blow-by-blow.

01:00:43.000 He basically was like, listen, you only get promoted if you're of a certain skin color, or if you happen to be white, you better toe the line. 0.52

01:00:52.000 You better do all the dogmatic principles, the DEI, the CRT.

01:00:57.000 And he also mentioned to me that none of that was in place when Trump was in the military.

01:01:03.000 The day they swore in Joe Biden on a dime, on a dime.

01:01:08.000 He said the very next day, he was having to do DEI stuff, CRT stuff in training.

01:01:16.000 It turned on a dime.

01:01:17.000 And so now everybody who is conservative, white, Christian, male, whatever, they just, he said everybody's just quiet because they know that if they speak up, it's not going to, it's not going to go well for them.

01:01:27.000 They're going to get stalled in their career.

01:01:29.000 So a lot of people are just opting out.

01:01:31.000 A lot of people are either not getting in in the first place or as soon as they're able, they get out of the military.

01:01:38.000 My brother is also in the army.

01:01:40.000 He told me the same thing.

01:01:41.000 He said, a lot of the old dogs are just getting purged.

01:01:44.000 And they're self-purging.

01:01:45.000 They're just like, I don't want to put up with this anymore.

01:01:47.000 I'm out.

01:01:48.000 I'm not doing this.

01:01:49.000 I'm not doing the politics anymore.

01:01:50.000 I don't believe in any of it.

01:01:52.000 I'm just going to retire.

01:01:53.000 So instead of actually prolonging your career, a lot of these guys are just getting out.

01:01:57.000 So what we're seeing over a four-year period is the utter transformation of the U.S. military.

01:02:02.000 And one final note.

01:02:04.000 Guess what?

01:02:04.000 Guess what news channel, the commanders at Minot Air Force Base have their TVs tuned to.

01:02:12.000 MSNBC.

01:02:13.000 Yeah.

01:02:14.000 Yep.

01:02:14.000 That's the predictive.

01:02:15.000 Well, here's the thing, too, Andrew, is that something at the junior level as well that I don't know if people are realizing because a lot of these guys, when they go in, especially academy, you know, ring knockers, not only academy ring knockers, no any issue with those guys generally.

01:02:31.000 And I have a bunch of friends who are, that they're strivers, right?

01:02:34.000 They're ambitious.

01:02:35.000 They go in because they want to make rank and they want to make rank quickly.

01:02:38.000 And they will say and go along with whatever it is they're supposed to say and go along with that will get them ranked faster.

01:02:44.000 So if being woke means you can make rank, then they're going to be the wokest possible wokey they can find. 0.70

01:02:50.000 They're going to kick out the extremists and they're going to do anything they can to earn brownie points from the higher up.

01:02:56.000 So this, if you're setting, you're talking about some of the most competitive people in the entire country.

01:03:00.000 And so we should want the competitive, ambitious people in our military.

01:03:04.000 The problem is you've completely, you've created a basically a moral hazard where you've incentivized them through wokeness to be more woke and be this Gestapo of wokeness within our own military, kicking out anyone who's conservative.

01:03:18.000 And so this will always happen.

01:03:20.000 Meanwhile, you could easily, as you say, get in a new administration and find people that are not on this side, fire like, I don't know, everyone over 06 or something, all the flag officers, and then set up a new system.

01:03:34.000 Charlie, I have a question for you.

01:03:36.000 So if in 2025, Donald Trump gets sworn into office again on your show, on the Charlie Kirk show, would you change your recommendation to young guys that might be thinking about military service?

01:03:50.000 Would you then start recommending they do it or no?

01:03:52.000 It depends on what he does.

01:03:53.000 I mean, if he puts Mad Dog Mattis back in there, no way. 0.90

01:03:56.000 The guy was a disaster.

01:03:58.000 Well, he's turned on him, but yeah.

01:04:00.000 I mean, so he'd have to make serious changes.

01:04:02.000 He'd have to have mass resignations at the Pentagon.

01:04:05.000 We'd need huge realignment.

01:04:06.000 And that, I mean, you want to talk about the deep state?

01:04:08.000 The military is the deep state.

01:04:10.000 I mean, they are unchanging, unwavering.

01:04:13.000 And how ideologically they're committed, we'll see.

01:04:15.000 I mean, I don't know who a good Department of Defense Secretary would be, but it would be one of the top mandates for Trump.

01:04:25.000 By the way, not to mention, let's just focus on one part of it, West Point.

01:04:27.000 West Point is teaching CRT and DEI.

01:04:30.000 That alone would be, you have to basically focus on it for two weeks straight with the full force of the executive branch of government.

01:04:38.000 And you'd have to fire 5,000 to 7,000 people, right, Blake, almost overnight.

01:04:42.000 And they would say, oh, it's national security.

01:04:44.000 You're putting the country at risk.

01:04:45.000 And just you have to shrug your shoulders and get it done.

01:04:50.000 Or you do it slow so nobody really like notices.

01:04:53.000 You know?

01:04:53.000 Yeah, that's another strategy.

01:04:55.000 We don't have time, I don't think.

01:04:56.000 So what's our next topic, Blake?

01:04:58.000 Do we want to talk about the letter we got today?

01:05:00.000 Yes, that would be great.

01:05:01.000 And I want to announce Blake's new role.

01:05:04.000 So I've been teasing this.

01:05:06.000 Again, we do all sorts of crazy stuff on our show.

01:05:07.000 Jack, you're going to love this.

01:05:09.000 And I've been teasing this.

01:05:11.000 I'm so hyped.

01:05:12.000 So apparently Monday's a federal holiday.

01:05:15.000 I don't know.

01:05:15.000 Allegedly.

01:05:16.000 I'd never heard of this before.

01:05:17.000 I don't know.

01:05:18.000 There's like some holiday in mid-January.

01:05:19.000 What holiday?

01:05:20.000 It's a holiday of like, it seems weird to have it.

01:05:22.000 We just had two holidays. 0.91

01:05:24.000 Kind of three, it's so ridiculous.

01:05:25.000 The holidays just ended. 0.86

01:05:26.000 And so we're saying happy holidays and then it ended.

01:05:28.000 So there's no more holidays.

01:05:29.000 Yeah.

01:05:30.000 So when the last year, I promised myself when this came around, we were going to go after it.

01:05:35.000 And so here we are.

01:05:37.000 And we're going to, I'm just going to tease it.

01:05:38.000 You got to watch the show on Monday.

01:05:40.000 And I just said one, it was kind of a throwaway line, right, Andrew?

01:05:43.000 It was such a throwaway line.

01:05:44.000 It was a throwaway thing.

01:05:45.000 I mean, I'm just kind of doing this thing.

01:05:47.000 And some tech blog called Wired Magazine.

01:05:51.000 You'd think they would write about computers, the internet, Bitcoin, crypto.

01:05:56.000 They're engineering.

01:05:57.000 But apparently, they just police what people think about a certain infamous American of the mid-20th century.

01:06:04.000 Yeah, some holy figure.

01:06:05.000 So I'm going to read this email from.

01:06:07.000 Must be a religion blog.

01:06:08.000 Who is this guy?

01:06:08.000 I don't know.

01:06:09.000 Secular saint.

01:06:10.000 He says, hi, I'm a reporter with Wired Magazine in New York.

01:06:15.000 I'm reaching out because we're publishing a story about Charlie Kirk's comments on Martin Luther King Jr. and is planned to release content about King on January 15th.

01:06:24.000 Mind you, they act like I'm planning a terrorist attack.

01:06:27.000 Like the way this is written, his plans to create content on January 15th.

01:06:32.000 Like what, I mean, like, what am I like?

01:06:34.000 Planning like a terrorist attack on Christmas Day?

01:06:37.000 We note in our piece.

01:06:38.000 Oh, so you already wrote the piece.

01:06:39.000 That's what I love about this, right?

01:06:40.000 They're not asking me for comment.

01:06:42.000 They're trying to fill in a couple of gaps.

01:06:44.000 We note in our piece.

01:06:45.000 Oh, so you already wrote the piece.

01:06:46.000 We note in our piece that Kirk describes King as, quote, a bad guy.

01:06:50.000 It's true.

01:06:50.000 And Kirk's self-described, very, very radical view that the country made a mistake when it passed the Civil Rights Act.

01:06:57.000 Also true.

01:06:58.000 As we note in the piece, Kirk has previously described Kirk as a hero and a civil rights icon.

01:07:03.000 It's true.

01:07:03.000 I used to be wrong.

01:07:05.000 What inspired Kirk to shift his view on MLK?

01:07:07.000 Why does Kirk think that MLK is a bad guy when Kirk says that MLK says, quote, one good thing he didn't believe?

01:07:15.000 What does he mean by that?

01:07:16.000 Why does Kirk believe passing the Civil Rights Act was a mistake?

01:07:19.000 Now, again, apparently they don't listen to the show because we do that at least once a week, right?

01:07:23.000 Once a week we talk about why the Civil Rights Act was a mistake.

01:07:25.000 Does Kirk believe that racial segregation should be permitted in the United States?

01:07:29.000 Again, this is how shallow they are.

01:07:31.000 It's as if if you don't support the Leviathan and the building of a mass racialized bureaucracy and a refounding of the United States via the Civil Rights Act, you must be pro-racial segregation. 0.76

01:07:42.000 Now, I'd love to find this guy and ask him, like, hey, when's the Wired magazine article going to be done on black-only dormitories?

01:07:48.000 When's the Wired magazine article going to be on anti-white hiring practices at Johns Hopkins?

01:07:54.000 Never.

01:07:55.000 Does TPUSA see any tension that it sells merchandise of MLK and its website?

01:07:59.000 By the way, we don't anymore.

01:08:00.000 So this guy's outdated.

01:08:01.000 What role does Blake Neff have in creating content on MLK?

01:08:05.000 What have I done this time?

01:08:06.000 This is the best part, right?

01:08:07.000 Because I mentioned Blake.

01:08:09.000 And he says, what role?

01:08:10.000 Well, this is a perfect time to release it.

01:08:12.000 This is a perfect time to announce.

01:08:15.000 Little did this reporter know that Blake Neff is director of MLK history at the Charlie Kirk show.

01:08:23.000 Yeah.

01:08:23.000 It's my new title.

01:08:24.000 Right there.

01:08:25.000 Congratulations.

01:08:25.000 Right there.

01:08:26.000 Director of MLK Truth.

01:08:28.000 They didn't know.

01:08:29.000 I like the white MLK better.

01:08:32.000 He's also known as the white MLK.

01:08:35.000 Yeah.

01:08:35.000 Geopolitical analysts have referred to Blake Neff as MLK for white people.

01:08:39.000 Now, I want you to understand how delicious this is.

01:08:42.000 This is a throwaway line.

01:08:43.000 I was passively planning this.

01:08:44.000 Now I'm going all in.

01:08:46.000 Did this guy then finish?

01:08:47.000 This would have been like five minutes ago.

01:08:48.000 It would have been a five minute.

01:08:49.000 No, the whole hour.

01:08:49.000 We're doing the whole hour.

01:08:51.000 I'm prepping this all weekend.

01:08:53.000 Because the fact that they go all this out, it's as if I am going after a holy figure.

01:09:00.000 And I say this without kidding.

01:09:01.000 If I did a mockery for a full hour of Jesus Christ, you wouldn't get this sort of incoming.

01:09:06.000 But if you dare. 0.59

01:09:07.000 By the way, this is my favorite part, the last inquiry of this lunatics email.

01:09:10.000 What sort of content about MLK is Kirk planning to publish on January 15th?

01:09:15.000 You're going to have to watch the show, man.

01:09:18.000 I mean, but this guy sounds like nervous.

01:09:20.000 Yeah.

01:09:20.000 As if it's like some sort of pending bomb I'm going to plant in a plaza on January 15th.

01:09:27.000 What is he planning?

01:09:28.000 Is it an insurrection?

01:09:29.000 Are they going to storm the Capitol?

01:09:31.000 No, I'm going to do an hour about how MLK is not worthy of deification and worship.

01:09:39.000 That if you pray in the name of MLK, it does not heal you of the sin of racism.

01:09:44.000 It's not just a religious thing.

01:09:46.000 It's also, they're worried about treason.

01:09:50.000 I'm going to have my apartment raid.

01:09:52.000 We're told America is a republic or a democracy or a democratic republic or a republican democracy, whatever.

01:09:57.000 But we're really a monarchy because if there's one person that like Republicans and Democrats agree is just our supreme authority, it's Martin Luther King.

01:10:07.000 And what's his last name?

01:10:08.000 His last name is King.

01:10:10.000 And what does everyone call him?

01:10:12.000 MLK.

01:10:14.000 What if I told you that the Semitic root, MLK, means king?

01:10:20.000 Does it really?

01:10:21.000 In Hebrew.

01:10:23.000 Is that right?

01:10:23.000 That is true.

01:10:24.000 100% true.

01:10:26.000 Well, then, I mean, he is our king.

01:10:28.000 But if you think about it, again, I don't want to tease out.

01:10:30.000 You have to watch Monday.

01:10:31.000 It's going to be huge.

01:10:32.000 Jack's going to promote it.

01:10:33.000 It is like the ultimate thought crime.

01:10:34.000 We're going all in.

01:10:35.000 This guy writes for Wired magazine.

01:10:37.000 It'd be one thing if he wrote for Huffington Post or the AP.

01:10:40.000 Wired magazine.

01:10:41.000 Like, you don't have a Bitcoin story that or like you can't have some sort of tech blog or something.

01:10:45.000 Wired magazine?

01:10:46.000 Yeah, like this guy used to write about huge, right?

01:10:50.000 I mean, come on, man.

01:10:51.000 It's just write about a video game or Apple lawsuits or Roblox or something.

01:10:57.000 What, like 50,000 right now or something?

01:10:59.000 It's about to hit 50 again.

01:11:01.000 What?

01:11:02.000 Like, this guy used to write.

01:11:03.000 I think the guy who was doing, I think it was William Turton, at least he's written stuff attacking us before.

01:11:07.000 I don't know what the name was, but great.

01:11:09.000 If so, like, this guy would have written about cybersecurity, and now his job is to scold everyone for not liking MLK enough.

01:11:16.000 I asked him when I called him.

01:11:18.000 So I called him.

01:11:19.000 So I asked him when I called him.

01:11:20.000 I said, what's your beat?

01:11:21.000 And he goes, like, without missing a beat, he goes, politics.

01:11:25.000 Is it just politics at Wired?

01:11:28.000 He goes, politics.

01:11:29.000 Everything is.

01:11:31.000 It's an interesting version of.

01:11:32.000 Does MLK have to do with politics?

01:11:34.000 I guess everything is the answer.

01:11:36.000 Well, it's an interesting version of.

01:11:38.000 It's like every lib organization, the Sierra Club is now about gay rights. 0.99

01:11:41.000 You know, the NAACP is also about gay rights.

01:11:45.000 And, you know, every organization's about racism now.

01:11:48.000 Like, you know, the sort of lib singularity.

01:11:51.000 And it's also like that with every normal publication is now just a politics publication.

01:11:56.000 So Wired was a tech thing, and maybe they'd write about Congress if something really important came up about copyright law or internet regulation.

01:12:05.000 But now it's just, yeah, you have a politics writer and you probably have that at every organization, at every publication.

01:12:10.000 Charlie, I love how this just like this morning was one of the more funny reactions when you got it.

01:12:15.000 You're like, oh, this is delicious.

01:12:16.000 You're like, you're like, hey, turning point.

01:12:19.000 Do we have MLK gear?

01:12:21.000 Oh, we do.

01:12:21.000 Get it off.

01:12:22.000 And then are we planning any MLK tweets?

01:12:25.000 No more.

01:12:25.000 Full court press.

01:12:26.000 And by the way, it's because this guy that has got nothing but it, by the way, you got plane doors falling off of Boeing 737 Max.

01:12:33.000 You got cyber attacks.

01:12:34.000 You know, you got the most interesting tech space, right?

01:12:38.000 Jack, it's not as if there's no tech stories out there for Wired magazine to cover.

01:12:42.000 You got tunnels underneath Chabad.

01:12:45.000 You got all sorts of crazy things going on.

01:12:46.000 And the fact that I have some sort of throwaway line, like I'm planning an EMP that like the Charlie Kirk show is, in some ways, we kind of are.

01:12:55.000 Because if you think about it, and I did some research of any organization that might be considered mainstream or anyone, MLK truly is a bipartisan worshipped figure.

01:13:06.000 And they worship, and for all fairness, the right will take one line from MLK and say he's great because of this.

01:13:12.000 And the left will take all the other stuff that he believed, which is the hyper racialization of America.

01:13:16.000 And again, I don't want to bury the lead, but how did we get here?

01:13:20.000 And how much of our race-obsessed politics is because of the elevating of MLK?

01:13:26.000 And so what was originally planned as a little sideshow is going to be the main show on Monday, Jack.

01:13:33.000 Well, Charlie, that's what I was going to say.

01:13:36.000 That Blake and I just did an entire special on the 60s a couple of weeks ago, which was extremely, extremely highly rated.

01:13:45.000 Viewership was through the roof, hit, you know, hit top 10 on Apple Podcast for Politics.

01:13:51.000 And I wouldn't say the entire thing is about MLK, but we definitely took some shots or some reviews and we went over the history of MLK pretty extensively and basically came up with this, you know, the formulation that the right needs to stop mythologizing this guy and really needs to stop taking this one line in one speech about having a dream.

01:14:18.000 And obviously it sounds great, but you have to actually look at his record and the things that he did and the things that he supported and the people that he supported, the policies that he supported, the mass race riots that were going on all throughout the 1960s that he didn't seem to bat a single eye at that were going on.

01:14:36.000 And then the fact that we end up with these massively, massively racialized campuses and a massively racialized society after his career.

01:14:47.000 And it's as simple as that.

01:14:48.000 That when the, you know, this is kind of like that, there's a guy on Twitter, Kefe Anon, who says the woke are more correct than the mainstream.

01:14:55.000 And he's right in so many respects, because if you go and talk to the wokes or go to talk to anyone on the progressive left, they'll say that the 60s were sort of a new founding of America. 1.00

01:15:04.000 And they're right, because it was in the 1960s that we decided to rewrite all of U.S. law and all of U.S. jurisprudence, essentially to create this inverted hierarchy of race victimization.

01:15:16.000 And they'll do this with MLK too.

01:15:18.000 You can find articles pretty routinely where they'll react to conservatives lionizing MLK and they'll say, conservatives put forward this false version of MLK as believing in, you know, race, you know, a race-blind society.

01:15:31.000 And they'll say, no, actually, he believed in affirmative action and heavy racial preferences.

01:15:36.000 And you are distorting the record of MLK.

01:15:39.000 And then now conservatives are wising up and saying, oh, wait a minute, MLK believed in affirmative action and racial preferences and all this discrimination.

01:15:46.000 And everyone, now they're like, they're writing articles about it.

01:15:49.000 Oh my gosh, they're writing things agreeing with what we lectured them.

01:15:53.000 They were supposed to believe 10 minutes ago.

01:15:55.000 That's right.

01:15:56.000 And it's going to be a fun Monday.

01:15:58.000 It's going to be a, we're doing a deep dive and Wired magazine, they just might combust.

01:16:02.000 And it's the kind of the, to put this in summary, it's almost like, how dare you?

01:16:09.000 That's basically the email that he sent.

01:16:11.000 How dare you?

01:16:13.000 I am, it was as if I'm going after a figure.

01:16:17.000 It's as if he became a perpetually 14-year-old looking Swedish child. 0.56

01:16:22.000 Yes, it was the Greta Thunberg Wired magazine.

01:16:25.000 How dare you?

01:16:26.000 How dare you go after thou we deify? 0.65

01:16:30.000 Well, you know, Charlie, maybe he realizes that this is the thread.

01:16:34.000 If you pull it, the entire sweater unravels.

01:16:38.000 And he knows it maybe even better than we did.

01:16:40.000 And now we're sort of like, oh, good.

01:16:44.000 Let's press that.

01:16:45.000 Let's press that button.

01:16:46.000 And here's what else is interesting about it: we were talking about this the other day with the expanding Overton window now that you could say whatever you want on Twitter, X.

01:16:56.000 It's like you used to get in trouble for saying replacement theory.

01:17:00.000 Now you put out a tweet about replacement theory or and the replacement reality, whatever.

01:17:05.000 Nobody bats an eye.

01:17:06.000 It's not even written up.

01:17:07.000 You don't even get a media matters mention out of it.

01:17:09.000 It's nothing.

01:17:09.000 Well, it's like you know where the central pieties of an age are by the altars you're not allowed to desecrate.

01:17:17.000 Well, the central piety here is MLK.

01:17:21.000 And man, he gave us a lot of dirt.

01:17:23.000 There's a lot of dirt there.

01:17:25.000 Well, there's a lot.

01:17:26.000 And it's not just his behavior, which is reprehensible.

01:17:29.000 It's not just his radicalism or any of that.

01:17:32.000 It's also, I want to make sure people understand his worldview.

01:17:36.000 And that's what we're going to do Monday.

01:17:37.000 His worldview is not what you think it is.

01:17:40.000 And I'm not saying he's the worst person ever, but think about it.

01:17:44.000 What human being do we think about, quote, reference, idolize the most from the 20th century?

01:17:50.000 It's not even close in America.

01:17:53.000 You get he's the only person of the 20th century with his own federal holiday.

01:17:58.000 He's the only, he's one of only two people in America who has a federal holiday, period.

01:18:02.000 And so him and Washington.

01:18:03.000 So and you, and I was thinking about this today.

01:18:05.000 Oh, and we even cover up Washington.

01:18:07.000 Oh, you're right.

01:18:07.000 Okay, third.

01:18:08.000 I forgot about Columbus.

01:18:09.000 Oh, we have Juneteenth.

01:18:10.000 Totally forgot about Columbus.

01:18:11.000 My bad.

01:18:11.000 But I just connected.

01:18:13.000 Columbus, the first American.

01:18:15.000 No, but I was just thinking about this and I said, why is it that the person that gets their own federal holiday is the person we've never actually criticized?

01:18:24.000 Is this the guy that was the father of all nations, Abraham?

01:18:27.000 Is this the guy that wrestled with God, Jacob?

01:18:30.000 JFK doesn't even have a holiday.

01:18:31.000 No, I just, it's just, it's so bizarre.

01:18:33.000 And the reason, obviously, is that people are afraid of being called a racist, but we're now in this new era, a brave new world, brought to you by Elon Musk.

01:18:41.000 And this Martin Luther King, I'm not going to spoil all of it.

01:18:44.000 It's going to be beautiful.

01:18:45.000 It's going to be well researched.

01:18:47.000 Everything we're going to say is true.

01:18:48.000 We're going to be fair.

01:18:49.000 We're going to talk about one or two things that MLK got right.

01:18:52.000 You're going to have to tune in Monday.

01:18:54.000 Okay, last topic.

01:18:55.000 That's a good TC.

01:18:56.000 Last segment, last segment.

01:18:58.000 We just have to hit it.

01:18:59.000 Aaron Rodgers versus Jimmy Kimmel.

01:19:01.000 It's pretty funny.

01:19:03.000 So Aaron Rodgers is, of course, an NFL quarterback.

01:19:06.000 Huge Aaron Rogers.

01:19:07.000 Allegedly, he's a quarterback.

01:19:08.000 I haven't seen him on a field recently.

01:19:11.000 Too simple.

01:19:12.000 Too simple.

01:19:12.000 You know, I mean, he only pretended he was going to come back this season for about like four months.

01:19:18.000 He ran out with a flag.

01:19:19.000 Okay.

01:19:19.000 Yeah.

01:19:19.000 He ran out with a flag.

01:19:21.000 And then I guess he just kind of suggested that Jimmy Kimmel might be a pedophile, which, you know, is an allegation that's thrown around all the time.

01:19:27.000 So he suggested Jimmy Kimmel was on Jeffrey Epstein's list.

01:19:30.000 On Pat McAfee's show.

01:19:31.000 On Pat McAfee's show.

01:19:32.000 Which is a totally wild show if you were watching.

01:19:34.000 Pat McAfee, that's an amazing story.

01:19:35.000 A guy goes from a punter to a celebrity.

01:19:37.000 By the way, I give him 18 months till he's canceled on ESPN.

01:19:40.000 That show is too wild.

01:19:41.000 I give him six.

01:19:42.000 You agree?

01:19:42.000 I give him six.

01:19:43.000 There's no way his DPS is.

01:19:45.000 He was all over this week's end.

01:19:47.000 There's a lot of people at ESPN that don't like me, that hate on my show, that want us to fail.

01:19:51.000 And then he can go kick Rodgers off the show.

01:19:54.000 He could go in and then kick Rogers off the show this week.

01:19:56.000 He kicked him off.

01:19:57.000 That was already by far.

01:19:58.000 I think Pat McAfee has a drinking punch.

01:20:00.000 He was by far.

01:20:01.000 Blazed half the time.

01:20:02.000 He was by far the most Rogers was the number one guest they had on the show.

01:20:05.000 He got paid a million dollars a year for going on it.

01:20:08.000 Are you serious?

01:20:08.000 Yeah, which every week.

01:20:10.000 Yeah, you know, he'd come on every week.

01:20:11.000 So it makes sense he'd have a contract, but by far that got the most attention.

01:20:14.000 I follow the NFL, you know, enough to know that Rogers' segment was always the viral.

01:20:18.000 It was hilarious.

01:20:19.000 And so he's getting rid of him.

01:20:21.000 But all the attention has been on Rodgers so far.

01:20:23.000 Like, oh, will he apologize for all this? 0.94

01:20:25.000 I think the bigger and funnier thing, and maybe it's almost just not news because this is a development that's been the case for a while, but Jimmy Kimmel is so pathetic now. 0.69

01:20:36.000 Like, this is the guy who used to be, you know, the man show.

01:20:39.000 It was like he did these transgressive comedy, and then he's just the classic.

01:20:44.000 Yeah, he's this classic case of this guy who, you know, got his bag, got his show, and now is pulling the ladder up.

01:20:50.000 And now he's just all, oh, you know, we have to avoid these deeply hurtful, hurtful, offensive things. 0.98

01:20:55.000 Here's what Rogers should do: Rogers should go on, find Jimmy Kimmel somewhere, and he should throw a football right at Jimmy Kimmel's crotch so that when Jimmy Kimmel doesn't flinch and doesn't respond, it will confirm to the whole world that Jimmy Kimmel has no balls. 0.98

01:21:13.000 Let's play the clips. 0.98

01:21:14.000 Yeah, let's play.

01:21:15.000 Let's play the clips.

01:21:16.000 Ryan did a good job putting this together.

01:21:18.000 Let's go to Cut 130.

01:21:20.000 A lot of people, and I'm quoting myself here, a lot of people, including Jimmy Kimmel, are really hoping that doesn't come out.

01:21:28.000 End quote.

01:21:29.000 That's what I said.

01:21:29.000 That's the entire quote.

01:21:32.000 Okay.

01:21:32.000 I was referring to the fact that if there is a list, which again, this hasn't come out yet, this was just a deposition, right?

01:21:40.000 And there are names on it.

01:21:41.000 And that would be the second time that a soft brain, junior college student, you know, wacko, anti-vax, anti-Semite, purveyor, spreader of misinformation, conspiracy theorist, MAGA, whatever other things that have been said by him and other people in the media would be right twice. 0.56

01:22:08.000 Okay. 1.00

01:22:08.000 I'm not stupid enough, even though you think I'm an idiot and you made a lot of comments about my intelligence. 1.00

01:22:14.000 I'm not stupid enough to accuse you of that with absolutely zero evidence, concrete evidence. 1.00

01:22:21.000 That's ridiculous. 1.00

01:22:22.000 Man, I like Aaron Rodgers more by the day. 0.93

01:22:25.000 You know, he's base, bass, bass, bass, bass.

01:22:28.000 I think I think he was actually wrong, right?

01:22:30.000 It was like Jimmy Kimmel's chef used to cook for Epstein, right?

01:22:36.000 Or something?

01:22:36.000 Wasn't that the connection?

01:22:38.000 No, I don't know.

01:22:39.000 I'm just saying, I like Aaron.

01:22:41.000 I just like his attitude.

01:22:42.000 I just love that.

01:22:43.000 Yeah.

01:22:43.000 Say that, Jack?

01:22:44.000 Jack, what was that?

01:22:46.000 I believe it's that Jimmy Kimmel is very close friends with the guy who was Epstein's personal chef.

01:22:52.000 All right.

01:22:52.000 So that's kind of where he was getting.

01:22:54.000 Yeah, that's where Aaron Rodgers was kind of digging in.

01:22:58.000 Now, we haven't seen Kimmel's name actually mentioned on any of the documents that have been dumped, correct?

01:23:04.000 So will Rogers be proven correct?

01:23:08.000 I don't know.

01:23:08.000 But Kimmel denies it flatly, right?

01:23:12.000 We do have another one.

01:23:13.000 So we do know.

01:23:14.000 Aaron Rodgers was on today, though.

01:23:16.000 Yeah, I think that was what we played where that was his like non-apology.

01:23:20.000 I don't know if that's true.

01:23:21.000 No, no, he came back on today, even though they said he wasn't coming back on, because there's a clip of him talking about Saban's retirement.

01:23:27.000 So by definition, that means he was on McAfee's show today.

01:23:31.000 I don't have that. 0.97

01:23:32.000 That means McAfee might have just said, screw you, ESPN. 0.90

01:23:34.000 I'm going to have Rodgers on again. 0.87

01:23:38.000 I don't have that.

01:23:39.000 And then McAfee.

01:23:41.000 Yeah, and then McAfee said out today.

01:23:44.000 No, that's right.

01:23:44.000 He came back today.

01:23:46.000 That's crazy.

01:23:50.000 That's one day after the host, Pat McAfee said New York Check wouldn't appear for the rest of the seasons.

01:23:56.000 Yeah, so that was Kenny from South Park or whatever.

01:24:00.000 We should just ban Aaron Rodgers from the McAfee show every single week and then just bring him back. 0.55

01:24:04.000 Oh my God, you killed Aaron Rodgers.

01:24:06.000 Oh my God, they banned him. 0.90

01:24:07.000 Oh my God.

01:24:08.000 Look at this.

01:24:09.000 ESPN, which airs the Pat McAfee show, declined to comment on Rogers' latest appearance.

01:24:14.000 No, I'm telling you, McAfee, he's going to be on the ropes.

01:24:17.000 This guy is wild.

01:24:18.000 And by the way, I think he's got one of those great contracts.

01:24:23.000 Even if they fired him, he'd be one of the trucker.

01:24:25.000 He'd get paid 20 million.

01:24:26.000 McAfee is built for the internet.

01:24:27.000 The guy could survive outside of it.

01:24:29.000 I'm not a huge McAfee guy.

01:24:30.000 I find him to be a little bit nauseating, but he's very entertaining in like little bite-size.

01:24:34.000 I think he can be very good for more than 10 minutes.

01:24:37.000 Try watching him comment on a football game.

01:24:39.000 On the Rose Bowl, I accidentally went to ESPN 2 where it was a McAfee frat hour, and he was commenting on the Rose Bowl.

01:24:45.000 I lasted about 90 seconds, and I went back to the regular broadcast.

01:24:48.000 All right.

01:24:49.000 I have detail.

01:24:51.000 After Minnie took McAfee's remarks to mean that Rogers was banned from the show, the host wrote on X, formerly Twitter, to clarify that the show segments, Aaron Rodgers, Tuesdays, has always ended when Rogers' season ended, but that the quarterback will make, quote, random surprise welcomed pop-ins during big events or off-season adventures.

01:25:14.000 He never said that Rodgers will never be on the show again.

01:25:19.000 Someone's backpedaling.

01:25:20.000 Ooh, it's good stuff.

01:25:22.000 All right.

01:25:22.000 We got to wrap up, everybody.

01:25:24.000 Final thoughts around the horn?

01:25:28.000 A friend sent me this joke about it.

01:25:31.000 Heroes and a half shtetl.

01:25:34.000 Oh, wait, no, wait.

01:25:36.000 No, I don't get it.

01:25:37.000 No way.

01:25:38.000 You guys know what a shtetle is. 0.99

01:25:40.000 Come on.

01:25:40.000 Twist.

01:25:42.000 I don't.

01:25:42.000 Twist.

01:25:43.000 It's the village.

01:25:45.000 No, it's the village the Jews live in, like in Fiddler on the Roof. 1.00

01:25:47.000 Oh, man.

01:25:48.000 Oh, translate.

01:25:48.000 Tridentine, guys.

01:25:49.000 Come on.

01:25:50.000 You guys are killing me.

01:25:51.000 Translate. 0.95

01:25:51.000 Like a kibbutz. 0.95

01:25:52.000 No, no, not like a kibbutz is very different than what's funny is they accuse they accuse these guys, they accuse us of anti-Semitism.

01:26:00.000 You guys don't even know anything about. 0.98

01:26:02.000 This is why it's so silly.

01:26:05.000 I am a, what do they call me? 0.67

01:26:06.000 A semite file.

01:26:07.000 Philo-Semite.

01:26:09.000 Philo-Semite is what Mort calls me.

01:26:11.000 Candace on Tucker.

01:26:12.000 She said you were an extremist.

01:26:16.000 You were like extreme pro-Israel.

01:26:18.000 I love the Bible.

01:26:19.000 Okay.

01:26:20.000 Everybody, until next week, commit thought crimes.

01:26:23.000 But I'll tell you, they're actually going to be, this is Monday.

01:26:27.000 We picked quite a day.

01:26:28.000 It's the Iowa Caucus live stream.

01:26:30.000 It's our holy devout, may he always be remembered, eternally worshipped Martin Luther King Day.

01:26:36.000 And we're going to be going after that whole program.

01:26:39.000 And so it's just, I think we might actually do the thought crime show Monday.

01:26:42.000 We'll see.

01:26:43.000 Whatever it is.

01:26:43.000 Monday's a game.

01:26:45.000 Monday's a day.

01:26:45.000 Got the Iowa caucus, and we got the Holy Day.

01:26:49.000 It's going to be great.

01:26:50.000 Until then, keep on committing thought crimes.

01:26:52.000 God bless.

01:26:53.000 And do not pray in the name of Martin Luther King Jr.

01:26:58.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

01:27:00.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:27:03.000 Thanks so much for listening.

01:27:04.000 God bless.

01:27:08.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - January 13, 2024

THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 28 — Tunnel Trouble? J-E-D-I? Charlie Vs. MLK?

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