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00:02:40.000For those people that have been watching the Red Sea, the U.S. Navy lately over there, for the past couple of weeks, really, I think about almost a month at this point now, the Houthi rebels have been firing off missiles, rockets, and drones, targeting merchant shipping in the Red Sea.
00:02:58.000This, of course, is one of the key choke points for oil transfers between the Gulf of the Persian Gulf and up through the Suez Canal.
00:03:08.000The U.S. Navy has been authorized and been shooting down these drones, but hasn't struck the Yemeni Houthis at any point until just about really about an hour ago here, opened up a series of very serious strikes.
00:03:23.000We're told naval strikes, potentially Air Force strikes against Houthi targets.
00:03:28.000We don't even have all the targets yet that have been hit.
00:03:30.000I'm told, and this is just, again, you know, fog of war, so I'll put that on it.
00:03:35.000But we're told Abbas Airport, Taiz Airport.
00:03:37.000This is in Sana'a, which is the capital of Yemen, controlled by the Houthis, 22nd Brigade base in Taiz, Kalin base, a number of bases, number of airports, a number of positions which are used to conduct these strikes.
00:03:50.000We're told that the Houthis have responded by announcing they will begin the direct targeting of U.S. naval vessels and British Royal Navy vessels in the Red Sea, which they had not done up to now.
00:04:00.000So, we'll talk about the significance of this as it ties into a story about military recruitment.
00:04:57.000However, this story needs to be covered.
00:05:00.000Blake, what in the fresh heaven is going on with Jewish tunnels?
00:05:06.000It's definitely one of the funniest stories ever, just kind of from a superficial visual element.
00:05:11.000It trickled out, I think it was on Tuesday night, maybe Monday, Monday night, Tuesday night, whichever it was the first night.
00:05:16.000You start getting these videos popping up on Twitter that are like, you know, these cops are in the synagogue and then this wall busts down.
00:05:24.000And you have clips that they were just showing it there where this guy's crawling out like a teenage mutant ninja turtle, except, you know, with a skull cap on.
00:05:35.000I was like, so you know what I thought the story was?
00:05:37.000I thought people were mocking Jews because they're so obsessed with Hamas tunnels and they built their own tunnels and it was like a way to own the Jews.
00:05:45.000I was like, that's stupid anti-Semitism.
00:06:29.000They're debating whether he's the Messiah or not.
00:06:31.000And an element of this is like, well, we're going to spread the message that this is the Messiah, and then it will cause the movement to grow.
00:07:29.000I think that might just be a coincidence, but it does give it some strange flair.
00:07:34.000And then there's all these weird aspects to it.
00:07:36.000You know, in the clip that you can see of them like opening the sides of the window, they were pulling out this kind of soiled mattress.
00:07:42.000And it seems that what happened is the illegal workers who were digging this lived there for a while because it was all an illegal operation.
00:07:49.000But that caused all these lunatics on the internet to lose their minds.
00:07:52.000So sort of an awkward context of this is there's all these, you know, a downside of, you know, all the free speech on Twitter is you do have a lot of loonies on there.
00:08:00.000And so you have a lot of really bad anti-Semitism on Twitter.
00:08:04.000And some people are really leaning into this and they're just like, yeah, these tunnels were for pedophiles or whatever to hide their victims.
00:08:30.000The other thing is that the mattress was soiled with menstrual blood, allegedly.
00:08:37.000I don't know how you know that, but maybe.
00:08:38.000That's my explanation, because in Jewish law, the woman, in traditional, let's just say custom, in Ultra-Orthodox, actually the woman and the man, on a wedding night, will go and obviously consummate the marriage, and they'll come out and celebrate with a cloth demonstrating she was indeed a virgin, because she then, quote unquote, let's just say, bled afterwards.
00:09:06.000It's called the mikvah yes, where women go during or after their period, hence the blood on the mattress.
00:09:14.000Okay so, and then there's all this child sacrifice, crazy stuff like on the internet, about you'll you'll, you'll hear about it, but according to one of our Jewish friends, that was uh, giving us the the, the lowdown, the buried lead is how this story has fueled all kinds of, you know, Anti-semitic rumors.
00:09:31.000Because Jews are involved, tunnels are involved, blood was found, a child seat was found, or the high chair uh, and that.
00:10:07.000And they, and all three of them, gave me the same line and this is what piqued my interest.
00:10:11.000I, I kid you I I, this is what interest instantly got me uh, curious.
00:10:15.000They said quote unquote, three different people had no idea was I was texting them.
00:10:20.000I said, what's the deal with these, these tunnels?
00:10:22.000They said just a bunch of young hooligans.
00:10:25.000It was like they, all three of them, said the exact same thing to me and I was like okay, the word is out.
00:10:32.000But I don't like that answer because obviously there was some supervision by leadership.
00:10:36.000And, by the way, if you want to just the story and I want to get Jack in on this Jack is uh suffering of a casualty, of being remote on this, but and Jack, by the way, we're getting Jack, hopefully to come in in person for our Iowa caucus coverage on monday.
00:10:48.000So I I, just I, one of the there's all these NEW YORK POST stories and one of them had this poor kid who keeps on tweeting out in all caps.
00:10:57.000Have you seen this back like eight months ago?
00:10:59.000Yeah, he said there are a bunch Of people underneath my apartment speaking Yiddish, and my building has no basement.
00:13:02.000Then they say, oh, by the way, they hired a bunch of illegal Mexicans and they were working to build the tunnel and they were living in the tunnel and living in this house.
00:13:11.000And that's what they try to blame these mattresses on.
00:13:14.000Plus, you got people that are running around saying, oh, all mattresses look like that.
00:13:18.000Everyone's, my mattress doesn't look like that.
00:13:20.000I've never had a mattress that looked like that.
00:13:21.000Even when I lived by myself, I never had a mattress never looked like that.
00:13:45.000Like, they used to have the best PR in the world.
00:13:46.000And I'm like, I, you know, Israel, I don't know what's going on, but you guys like got to hire the guys from before.
00:13:52.000And then they say there was another piece of it that they said, oh, this has been going on since COVID.
00:13:58.000And they were trying to tie it to COVID and the lockdowns.
00:14:01.000We remember because the Orthodox Jewish community in New York was fighting Cuomo at the time and the vaccinations and saying like, oh, it was like an anti-vax tunnel, like the underground anti-vax railroad or something was going on in the Hasidic Jewish community.
00:14:15.000And it's like, well, wait a minute, none of this adds up because if they were just building, if the Mexicans were just building it, then how could it have been going on since 2020?
00:14:23.000You guys have been going there for this long under like the world headquarters and nobody knew about it for all this time.
00:14:29.000Plus that guys, the tweets that Blake mentioned, these were months ago.
00:14:36.000I think it's just blown over into, you know, into now because it got bigger.
00:14:40.000But I do think this is something they most likely knew about.
00:14:43.000So and I just look, again, I'm not overly interested in it, but also if it wasn't well known about, why did they defend it so viciously against the police?
00:14:52.000That's also, I mean, it was as if a mob formed, like, you don't go to this as if the police were going to go find like a 2,000-year-old copy of the Torah.
00:15:02.000And it's like, no, no, you can't do that.
00:15:04.000And they're starting to like move barricades.
00:15:46.000I think, like, what it really is, I think it gets at what messes with people's heads a little bit is you kind of have two types of Jewish people in American life.
00:15:57.000You have sort of assimilated Jews, and they're mostly like very successful, very well-off, very influential.
00:16:07.000And then you sort of have this other group that's very old, traditional, adheres very much to their old way of life, and has all of these, you know, strange habits that are, you know, straight out of the Middle Ages, essentially.
00:16:22.000And I think, especially if you're, you know, you have all these, unfortunately, you have all these like, you know, anti-Semitic conspiracy theories and stuff.
00:16:27.000And it's like the split between these two groups just drives people insane.
00:16:32.000It's like, imagine if, you know, we had the Amish and they were just, you know, normal Amish people.
00:16:36.000And then you had this split that was also Amish and they were really successful and, you know, were major Democratic Party donors and, you know, had all these like famous, you know, business tycoons who are still Amish.
00:16:48.000You mean like the Amish own Disney or something?
00:17:14.000I don't even know where it comes from.
00:17:16.000And I just, I guess it's ignited all this and people are going crazy and wild and they're screaming at each other and they're calling each other names and the whole things.
00:17:25.000But Jack, let's just, I have to say that the PR aspect of this is one of the parts that stands out, right?
00:17:39.000I was going to say, do you remember the, so the, this is the, like, this is the second time this year since that we've had the, like, the Jews in tunnels thing, right?
00:18:06.000Never the twain shall they meet, but you've got a situation now where it's like, it's like, why don't you have one guy who just kind of goes down there and says, look, guys, here's what was going on.
00:18:19.000I'll be in the, you just did this in a war zone.
00:18:22.000So if you just did this in a war zone, why can't you just do this in New York City and take a camera through and show us what was going on, tell the truth, let people in there, see what's going on and put it to rest.
00:18:34.000You could put all of this to rest with just a little bit of transparency.
00:18:38.000Then you have one guy come up and say, look, I know the internet is interesting.
00:18:41.000And you could do, which, by the way, when South Park quit out the Book of Mormon, all right?
00:18:46.000The South Park guys, when they did the Book of Mormon musical.
00:18:48.000I remember this was in Tyler's Not On tonight, of course, but the Church of Mormon kind of responded and said, Yeah, yeah, we understand there's this big musical about the Book of Mormon, but hey, you know what?
00:18:59.000If you like the musical, you'll love the book.
00:19:01.000And so they used it as kind of like a funny recruitment, you know, sort of method.
00:19:16.000So, but it seems like I'm just saying, it seems like they are trying to hide something.
00:19:22.000And I'm not going to sit here and speculate why, but I'm telling you that from a PR perspective, they're being very, very cagey about this.
00:19:31.000And I will just say that we know for a fact that there are in other cities like Las Vegas and others, there are civilizations of mole people who live underground that conduct tribal warfare against each other.
00:19:46.000You have drug, you have drug gangs down there, you have druggees down there, they find the bodies.
00:19:50.000There are places all over the country in major cities where these mole people exist.
00:20:23.000It's like, if you dig under New York City, it's filled with pipes and sewers and electrical, like, and a lot of it's from like the 1800s, the early 1900s.
00:20:34.000So it's there, I'm sure they would have encountered a bunch of stuff, hence why it's illegal.
00:20:40.000But, you know, the reaction, you mentioned this earlier.
00:20:44.000I think that's like a really interesting thing.
00:20:45.000And maybe we've got the clip of like when the police are entering and all of these Jewish members or whatever are, it's a very hurried scenario.
00:20:55.000And to me, that was that was like a really interesting red flag just to watch how they all behaved almost in a collective way.
00:21:03.000I don't think that's a very like run-of-the-mill mainstream American response to when the police come into your building and they all sort of like jumped around together and they're holding each other back.
00:21:13.000It does feel sort of Mideastern almost, right?
00:21:17.000Now, I don't know if most of these people probably were born in New York City.
00:21:22.000I'm assuming maybe some of them came from Israel.
00:21:26.000But the other piece of it, I think, Blake, you mentioned the word medieval in our chat one time because we were talking about the Talmud, right?
00:21:34.000This, all of this stuff plays together because if you go down these internet black holes, a lot of it is talking about, you know, the pedophilia, all this stuff that they get into with these anti-Semitic tropes.
00:21:48.000It's rooted in like the Talmud, right?
00:21:50.000And the Talmud is a medieval book, essentially.
00:22:02.000The pages are filled with arguments of rabbis disagreeing with one another.
00:22:06.000And so it's like, if you are not, if you don't understand what you're looking at, yeah, there's going to be some incredibly weird stuff there.
00:22:12.000That's how you might tell it's, you know, a Jewish religious text because it's a bunch of people arguing.
00:22:24.000And I think that, you know, if you look on the internet, there's a lot of that.
00:22:26.000That they'll take something, they'll cherry pick one sort of argument that's made, and it seems very legalistic, kind of, you know, just cold.
00:22:34.000And then you'll see another rabbi that argues the opposite position.
00:23:46.000Right now, the excuse that they gave, I kind of buy this idea that they want to expand their dominion of their, you know, Hasidic whatever.
00:24:37.000The question is, we're supposed to believe that a bunch of young lunatics on student visas from Israel just hired a bunch of Mexican laborers and housed them subterranean for three months on end and fed them.
00:25:16.000A dimension of this, I think, is that with these very traditional communities, they're kind of not, they're sort of just not a part of regular society and its institutions.
00:25:25.000So it's very upsetting to a lot of them that like the police are getting involved, that, you know, all these public authorities are getting involved.
00:25:32.000These groups tend to have their own institutions.
00:25:34.000Like, you know, they have their own courts.
00:25:36.000Like you go to your Orthodox Jewish religious court if you're going to get a divorce.
00:25:40.000You don't like get divorced through the normal legal system.
00:25:43.000And so I think there's a dimension of that where they're just very much eager to kind of keep, you know, keep the authorities out of this.
00:25:50.000And you see this pop up in, you know, their other communities.
00:25:53.000Like in their colonies in upstate New York, you'll have the friction between their school system and the public school system, their kind of way of life and everyone else's way of life in the area.
00:26:04.000You know, it's a recurring thing that pops up if you bother to pay attention to it, which I don't blame most people for not bothering.
00:26:11.000This is very true that they kind of police their own.
00:26:15.000There is a little bit, I don't want to say a no-go zone, but the police don't necessarily over-monitor because it's low crime.
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00:29:17.000And it's an open letter to the Academy of Motion Pictures and whatever their full name is.
00:29:21.000The people who run the Oscars vote on the Oscars.
00:29:24.000And what they're demanding is they're demanding that in Hollywood, that Jews be recognized as an underrepresented group in Hollywood.
00:29:32.000Quote, while we applaud the Academy's efforts to increase diverse and authentic storytelling, an inclusion effort that excludes Jews is both steeped in and misunderstands anti-Semitism.
00:29:46.000The absence of Jews from underrepresented groups implies that Jews are overrepresented in films, which is simply untrue.
00:32:01.000And what's funny about this, though, is what's really playing into this and what I don't think they're saying out loud is in 2020 with George Floyd and everything, you got this big push.
00:32:12.000You know, it's a lib area, lib city, huge, you know, the diversity push was everywhere, but it hit Hollywood really big.
00:32:20.000And what's happened is if you're already a big name in Hollywood, you're fine.
00:32:25.000You know, the people who can headline a film still headline films.
00:32:28.000The big directors are still big directors.
00:32:30.000But what it's really messed up is the intake.
00:32:33.000You know, who's getting new opportunities as actors?
00:32:36.000Who's getting a new chance to run a show?
00:32:56.000And so what I think they are seeing is this is their way of kind of expressing the fact that what is very true, which is that Jews are getting caught up in the whole keep white people out of Hollywood thing, which they're fine with as long as they're not part of it.
00:33:10.000And so, you know, the headline we have on the bottom is Jedi, J-E-D-I.
00:33:13.000And, you know, this is what some people have worried we might get in the wake of, you know, the Harvard backlash, all this other stuff, you know, the anti-DEI push.
00:33:21.000What we want is we'd love for liberal and moderate Jews to turn against DEI because they realize it's bad.
00:33:28.000The possibility that people worry about is you'll get this sort of devil's bargain where DEI, diversity, equity, inclusion, will become Jedi, as the joke goes, which is just add Jewish people to the DEI hierarchy as an oppressed class.
00:33:42.000And certainly they have a lot of claim to being oppressed in history, but especially in America and in the last century of America, there is really no group that does more to vindicate America as a land of opportunity.
00:34:25.000Yeah, I was just going to say that I didn't think this was that big.
00:34:28.000I thought it was just some stupid Hollywood thing.
00:34:30.000And then I was like, wait, the ADL is sharing this out as if this is like some serious dearth in the United States, some serious disparity that there aren't enough Jewish actors being represented in Hollywood.
00:34:44.000And when even the picture he's shown are like, you know, very well-known actors and actresses.
00:35:55.000And it's like Jonathan Greenblatt, who's sitting, goes on MSNBC and says, I'm mad at all this anti-Semitism.
00:36:01.000I can't, I'm going to protect our people and all this stuff.
00:36:03.000It's like, listen, man, you are actually now officially, once again, part of the problem.
00:36:09.000You have just said, essentially, how about we get more of this DEI nonsense, this racist DEI, and let's just include the Jews.
00:36:16.000And then it's even more upsetting because we had the Ackmans of the world basically saying, hey, my eyes are open to the fact that this is all an anti-white movement, anti-Christian movement.
00:36:27.000And then you've got this other group like the Jonathan Greenblatts that are taking us backwards.
00:36:33.000So it's this fork in the cultural road right now.
00:36:36.000And to your point earlier, Blake, it's like what we want to see is an end to all this stuff.
00:36:41.000This is just such an endorsement of it.
00:36:43.000And it's really extremely disappointing because not only Hollywood's losing, but we're losing our momentum as to what could have happened after October 7th.
00:36:51.000But mind you, instead of saying we should get rid of DEI, they accept the premise of DEI and they want preferential treatment.
00:37:17.000What's really funny is, especially with this letter where they're saying the claim Jewish people aren't white, that could be really funny if they succeeded and you started having this measure in statistics, you know, like the whole, you know, the press loves to come out, you know, like, you know, white people versus non-white people in XYZ stat.
00:37:34.000And yeah, what if they actually started to do that, you know, whether in Hollywood or academia?
00:37:40.000Like, what if, what if you actually ran the numbers at Harvard and they had to, and they considered they counted Jewish students as non-white and then they were releasing stats on like what the percentage of students is at Harvard.
00:37:51.000Who would actually come out as the most underrepresented group?
00:37:53.000And it might very well actually just be normal white people.
00:37:57.000The question is, and they can't answer it.
00:38:18.000Like one of the things that happened in the 2020 census is there's a huge explosion in the percentage of Hispanics who list their race as other because Hispanic's not a race on the census.
00:38:32.000You know, the same, you know, you're the same ethnicity, whether you're from Spain or Cuba or Argentina or Mexico, you know, whatever, or the Dominican Republic.
00:38:40.000And there was this huge surge in it because it used to be common that Hispanics would say they're white, but also Hispanic ethnically.
00:38:49.000And now there is this flight from white, as you might want to call it, because the word's out that people don't like white people.
00:38:55.000They discriminate against them and things.
00:38:57.000If you're not white, you can get better school admissions, better job opportunities.
00:39:01.000You know, there's all these scholarships available to you.
00:39:17.000You know, I have a quick, I have a question for Blake because I think there is a bigger point here, which kind of goes to what Charlie was saying: is that you are starting, and you and I discussed this before on the Chronicles of Revolution in the 60s, where you do now have this burgeoning group of like white Americans defining themselves as white because they're starting to understand group identity in this racial sense because it's been forced on them by all of this DEI nonsense.
00:39:48.000That now, suddenly, before like you might get people who say, like, okay, we're Poles, okay, we're Irish, okay, we're Italian, et cetera, these other things, but you don't really have people, you know, which is still more of a European construct, but in the American construct, because of the way the demographics are going, and of course, the way the ruling class is going, the ruling ideology in this country is going, you do see this sort of burgeoning white group identity in the United States.
00:40:12.000Yeah, it's actually genuinely sick what the left has done.
00:40:16.000Because if you took any group pretty much on planet Earth, and like, I don't think any group on planet Earth was more genuinely, authentically post-racial than like ordinary middle-class white Americans in 20th, late 20th century and early 21st century America.
00:40:36.000That, I mean, first of all, like Jack said, you know, they've largely kind of left behind their old like ethnic character.
00:40:42.000Like white Americans don't really think of themselves as German or Italian or Irish, except sort of in a very superficial, like, oh, my grandmother was from XYZ sort of way.
00:40:52.000And other than that, they had very little racial consciousness and they were very enthusiastic about a post-racial world, treat everyone equally, and they would be happy with that.
00:41:01.000And instead, what the left has done is come in and said, no, everything is going to be super aggressively racialized.
00:41:13.000And, you know, race, And they're forcing everyone to be obsessed with this.
00:41:18.000And some people will go along with this ideological project.
00:41:21.000And that's where you get, you know, these self-abasing white people who like are constantly apologizing for themselves.
00:41:26.000But that's never going to be all people.
00:41:29.000And especially as they get more sinister and nasty about it, you're going to get, well, one, you get people who just pretend that they're not white anymore and they claim a new race.
00:41:38.000And then you also just get people who say, okay, if you're going to insist I'm white, well, I'm not going to go along with the idea that I'm bad for that.
00:41:44.000And then you're going to get white racial politics.
00:42:02.000I think this ADL piece specifically, where you have Jonathan Greenblatt choosing to essentially endorse DEI, go with the flow and pick the ruling regime shows where the power is at currently, right?
00:42:18.000Because I said earlier, there was an MSNBC clip that we don't have, but he said he essentially got emotional on MSNBC saying, I'm going to fight for our kids and I'm going to fight for our people.
00:42:29.000And what's underlying that is a sense of sectarianism that I think we're talking about on the show right now, that it's actually the ruling ideology.
00:42:38.000He's picking which way the wind is blowing.
00:42:41.000He's looking at the way the argument's going.
00:42:42.000He's saying, listen, there's some voices that are saying NDEI.
00:42:47.000Other than that, the ruling elites that he hobnobs with that give him his source of power and the ADL, their source of power, they're completely bought into this crap.
00:42:56.000So he's literally like sticking his finger up in the air, feeling which way it's going and saying, hey, I can't beat him.
00:43:03.000And so that just shows how much work there is still to be done on the DEI front.
00:43:07.000I mean, I was last week, I think I was on the show saying how hopeful I was about it, but this is a massive, massive setback and like enough to make you cynical because how can you not see strategically, if you're Jewish right now, why would you not look at the 50% plus of the population that's white, Christian, Protestant, whatever, Catholic, and say, hey, I want to be their friends and I want to include them in a post-racial, pro-sectarian America.
00:44:19.000Treat people as colorblind, treat it as a meritocracy.
00:44:22.000But ADL and their donors and their staff and Jonathan Greenblatt, they want Jews to get special treatment the way blacks currently get special treatment in America.
00:44:34.000I mean, you know, if Mossad still had their like sort of assassination program, like in that Steelman Spielberg movie, Munich, which was nominated for an Oscar, I believe it's a good number of Oscars.
00:44:44.000Probably wouldn't have gotten those nominations if Hollywood was anti-Semitic, but I don't think they are.
00:44:49.000And but anyway, you know, if they still had that program, I feel like, you know, let's say Mossad has this big picture, like we need to stop global anti-Semitism, you know, because it's a threat to Israel's existence and all that.
00:45:02.000I think they would have to take out Jonathan Greenblatt.
00:45:04.000They're just like, this guy is a threat to the state of Israel because he's making people hate us.
00:45:26.000I got so pissed seeing that thing because it's just like you have this opportunity to make a whole bunch of people your friends and to get into the fight together with millions and millions of just kind, decent, good Americans, post-racial Americans.
00:45:41.000And instead, you do this stuff and you pander to the apartheid state and to the DI racism.
00:45:46.000And there's this opening to just choose another route.
00:45:49.000There's this, who knows how many opportunities there are going to be post-October 7th.
00:45:54.000This is the moment to spring into action, get rid of all this crap, and we can't even do it.
00:49:13.000You guys can put it on screen too if you want.
00:49:15.000So the headline is: Army sees sharp decline in white recruits.
00:49:21.000The Army's recruiting of white soldiers has dropped significantly in the last half decade, five years, according to internal data reviewed by military.com.
00:49:30.000The decline accounts for much of the service's historic recruitment slump that has become the subject of increasing concern for Army leadership and Capitol Hill.
00:49:40.000The shift in demographics for incoming recruits would be irrelevant to war planners, except it coincides with an overall shortfall of 10,000 recruits for the Army in 2023.
00:49:54.000The rate at which white recruitment has fallen far outpaces nationwide demographic shifts, data experts interviewed noted.
00:50:03.000They don't see a single cause for the recruiting problem, but pointed to a confluence of issues for army recruiting, including partisan scrutiny of the service, a growing obesity epidemic, and an underfunded public education system.
00:50:21.000They came up with obesity epidemic, which impacts non-white Americans more than white ones, and public education system, which impacts non-white Americans.
00:50:29.000The Department of Defense, obesity is not exactly doesn't disallow you.
00:50:35.000It's the fattest generals I've ever seen in my life.
00:50:38.000Well, Blake, I um, so I just wanted to add a little something.
00:50:41.000So I've got, I've been, of course, blocked already on Twitter by the author of this, uh, the article there, um, uh, Steve Bainen, because I found a tweet.
00:51:06.000Because the tweet he he wrote and then deleted when it started going viral, he said, the data are complicated, but this correlates with males participating less in society, such as the labor force and white males dropping from college.
00:51:20.000More, most importantly, this lines up almost perfectly with conservative pundits and lawmakers using the military as a conservative, as a partisan cudgel.
00:51:30.000It's like, so he's basically saying, he's like, this is exactly what conservative pundits.
00:51:34.000The data found that the conservative pundits, like everybody here on Thought Crime and all of our respective shows, were exactly correct.
00:51:43.000Everything that we were saying about the data, about male participation in the labor force, particularly white male in the labor force, in college and in the military, 100% correct.
00:51:55.000But he's like, he's like, he deletes the tweet because he suddenly realizes, wait, I can't actually let, you know, Pozo and Jack Posobiec and Charlie Kirk and these guys and Steve Bennon actually, you know, prove that they were exactly right.
00:52:11.000What he's actually saying is that it's because we started talking about this issue, because we noticed there was issues.
00:52:18.000It's actually our fault for talking about it, right?
00:52:22.000It's our fault for noticing that there was an anti-white bias, that the promotion structure was all screwed up, that they were doing their DEI crap and their CRT crap and their white rage crap.
00:52:32.000All of this stuff is hilarious because it's the old conservatives pounce argument, right?
00:52:37.000So we're somehow to blame because you guys started putting race above merit because you guys started promoting wokies instead of people that were actually gung-ho for better than that.
00:52:55.000And they are, like, it's been pointed out, you know, in Iraq, in all of our conflicts, it's still like white people who die disproportionately in the military.
00:53:23.000Not just serving, but fighting specifically.
00:53:27.000And what the military is getting instead, like the people who want to sign up are the ones who are like, yeah, you know, if you fall, if you do these things, you can be a rear echelon logistics guy.
00:53:38.000And then you can claim 75% disability due to your hearing loss and get a pension.
00:53:43.000And there's a lot of people like those who joined the military.
00:53:48.000But a military does need kind of these gung-ho people who want to fight.
00:53:52.000And there is no group of people in America who are more alienated by the modern regime we have erected than the kind of people who would do that.
00:54:00.000You know, that Scotch-Irish born fighting type of person, you know, they like to fight.
00:54:05.000And now, you know, the country craps on these people all the time.
00:54:10.000Their way of life is totally blown to pieces.
00:54:15.000So you have, you know, I kind of think the answer is partly true, that it is a reflection of this disintegration among like lower class white people.
00:54:25.000That these drugs, there's a lot of drugs, there's a lot of obesity, there's a lot of, you know, there's some crime and stuff.
00:54:40.000I know some people whose children are entering the military these days.
00:54:44.000And it's far more common today that, you know, they'll say, yeah, this is not because they're doing, they're not doing it for gung-ho patriotism.
00:54:50.000They just see, I can learn useful skills and I can get ahead professionally.
00:54:54.000This is how you learn the stuff you need to do if you need to eventually, you know, start your own alternative society, even.
00:55:02.000And it's a much more common justification than I just, you know, love America and want to serve America.
00:55:07.000So as the, as, as the, the, you know, I guess resident, I guess, vet on the show or, or whatever, not that I like try to wear that on my sleeve or pull like the Graham Allen stuff.
00:55:18.000Um, love Graham, no, you know, no, no issue with Graham or buddies.
00:55:22.000But it's just, um, you know, I, people do come to me a lot when, especially if I'm speaking at colleges and they'll, they'll talk to me or at a turning point event and they'll come and say, hey, I'm thinking about joining the military.
00:55:31.000I want to join Intel, want to go the route you did.
00:55:35.000And I always tell people, I 100%, you know, tell them, make sure you go into a role that does not involve combat.
00:55:42.000Make sure you get what you're getting out of it.
00:55:43.000You put in what you're going to get out because they're going to get their pound of flesh out of you.
00:55:47.000So you go right ahead and you make sure that you sign up for every class, you get all the college, you use your GI bill that you can get out of it.
00:55:53.000And, you know, go in for like cybersecurity, go in for language or something like that.
00:55:56.000I know somebody just got in for language.
00:55:59.000But when it comes to actually like fighting or going into a combat role, like you're going to go off, they will send you this military to send you off to die in some godforsaken desert, get blown up or some godforsaken desert.
00:56:09.000And I got friends that are there right now.
00:56:11.000And, you know, I'll just say in harm's way tonight.
00:56:17.000And, you know, when you really look at the thing, it's just for what?
00:56:20.000You know, these, these, the Houthis are not targeting U.S. civilians here at home.
00:56:47.000I mean, if you think of your average white Anglo-Saxon Protestant male, the whole culture, everything's rigged against them.
00:56:53.000Why would they want to go into a combat zone where they very well might be scapegoated?
00:56:58.000And you hear this from people that served in the Vietnam War all the time.
00:57:02.000There was a lot of anti-white racism and there was also anti-black racism.
00:57:06.000And there were times where white recruits and/black recruits did not always feel safe being in a platoon when there was somebody that didn't like their skin color and vice versa.
00:57:14.000Why would a white person want to go into the military right now with generals that don't like them putting into almost be like a human shield?
00:57:22.000We just disengage, not to mention the vaccine issue, where the last kind of gasp of individuality, I guess you could say, of people has said, you know, actually, I'm not going to do that.
00:57:34.000I'm not, it turns out that white America, what's last, what's left of it, is the last that actually has the testosterone, the spine to say, yeah, I'm not going to serve in that military.
00:57:44.000Now, they're trying to say, oh, whites don't care about the country.
00:58:23.000And the military's promotions are very politicized.
00:58:26.000And you're seeing sort of the death of the military as a traditionally conservative institution happen before us.
00:58:34.000And we're going to get something very strange.
00:58:36.000And it's definitely not a given that a military will be a conservative institution just because it's, you know, rah-rah or military or whatever.
00:58:45.000There have been countries where the military, the organized military, is a radical left-wing entity.
00:58:50.000In revolutionary France, the army was perceived as like the most revolutionary organ.
00:58:59.000And it was like this would be what would stop anyone from, you know, taking it over.
00:59:02.000And that was the fear Napoleon had to worry about.
00:59:05.000In China, the Red Army was kind of this vanguard left-wing entity.
00:59:10.000And it sort of shifted right during the Cultural Revolution.
00:59:12.000And so then they had to intervene to stop that.
00:59:15.000There's all sorts of things like that.
00:59:17.000And so we could see that with our military.
00:59:19.000We could see it is possible to imagine, or actually a good example, this is much more kind of similar to us in Turkey.
00:59:26.000In Turkey, it was always that the army was the stronghold of Kamalism, of Kemal Ataturk, the sort of guy who founded modern, more liberal Turkey.
00:59:35.000And they were like, over, they tried to overthrow the government, you might remember, about a decade ago because they thought it was kind of getting too conservative, too Islamist.
00:59:43.000And Turkey's only gone more that direction since.
00:59:46.000So what if we have that kind of military in America?
00:59:49.000The military where the joint chiefs, you know, maybe Trump is president and he's doing something to secure the border.
00:59:54.000And there's, you know, maybe there's like a constitutional crisis, they'll call it.
00:59:58.000And you'd have a military that would step in and say, we're going to step up for American democracy and, you know, just impose some liberal solution because they're a liberal organization now.
01:00:17.000I mean, so they put out the, that was the commanders at that Air Force base that put out a text message to everybody saying, hey, don't associate with turning point action, this far-right group or whatever.
01:00:28.000It was like a Lincoln Day dinner, the equivalent of it.
01:00:31.000And what's interesting about that, I was actually the guy who called the whistleblower that we got in touch with who's inside that Air Force base.
01:00:39.000So I was speaking with him and he gave me the full blow-by-blow.
01:00:43.000He basically was like, listen, you only get promoted if you're of a certain skin color, or if you happen to be white, you better toe the line.
01:00:52.000You better do all the dogmatic principles, the DEI, the CRT.
01:00:57.000And he also mentioned to me that none of that was in place when Trump was in the military.
01:01:03.000The day they swore in Joe Biden on a dime, on a dime.
01:01:08.000He said the very next day, he was having to do DEI stuff, CRT stuff in training.
01:01:17.000And so now everybody who is conservative, white, Christian, male, whatever, they just, he said everybody's just quiet because they know that if they speak up, it's not going to, it's not going to go well for them.
01:01:27.000They're going to get stalled in their career.
01:01:29.000So a lot of people are just opting out.
01:01:31.000A lot of people are either not getting in in the first place or as soon as they're able, they get out of the military.
01:02:15.000Well, here's the thing, too, Andrew, is that something at the junior level as well that I don't know if people are realizing because a lot of these guys, when they go in, especially academy, you know, ring knockers, not only academy ring knockers, no any issue with those guys generally.
01:02:31.000And I have a bunch of friends who are, that they're strivers, right?
01:02:35.000They go in because they want to make rank and they want to make rank quickly.
01:02:38.000And they will say and go along with whatever it is they're supposed to say and go along with that will get them ranked faster.
01:02:44.000So if being woke means you can make rank, then they're going to be the wokest possible wokey they can find.
01:02:50.000They're going to kick out the extremists and they're going to do anything they can to earn brownie points from the higher up.
01:02:56.000So this, if you're setting, you're talking about some of the most competitive people in the entire country.
01:03:00.000And so we should want the competitive, ambitious people in our military.
01:03:04.000The problem is you've completely, you've created a basically a moral hazard where you've incentivized them through wokeness to be more woke and be this Gestapo of wokeness within our own military, kicking out anyone who's conservative.
01:03:20.000Meanwhile, you could easily, as you say, get in a new administration and find people that are not on this side, fire like, I don't know, everyone over 06 or something, all the flag officers, and then set up a new system.
01:03:36.000So if in 2025, Donald Trump gets sworn into office again on your show, on the Charlie Kirk show, would you change your recommendation to young guys that might be thinking about military service?
01:03:50.000Would you then start recommending they do it or no?
01:06:10.000He says, hi, I'm a reporter with Wired Magazine in New York.
01:06:15.000I'm reaching out because we're publishing a story about Charlie Kirk's comments on Martin Luther King Jr. and is planned to release content about King on January 15th.
01:06:24.000Mind you, they act like I'm planning a terrorist attack.
01:06:27.000Like the way this is written, his plans to create content on January 15th.
01:06:32.000Like what, I mean, like, what am I like?
01:06:34.000Planning like a terrorist attack on Christmas Day?
01:07:31.000It's as if if you don't support the Leviathan and the building of a mass racialized bureaucracy and a refounding of the United States via the Civil Rights Act, you must be pro-racial segregation.
01:07:42.000Now, I'd love to find this guy and ask him, like, hey, when's the Wired magazine article going to be done on black-only dormitories?
01:07:48.000When's the Wired magazine article going to be on anti-white hiring practices at Johns Hopkins?
01:09:52.000We're told America is a republic or a democracy or a democratic republic or a republican democracy, whatever.
01:09:57.000But we're really a monarchy because if there's one person that like Republicans and Democrats agree is just our supreme authority, it's Martin Luther King.
01:11:38.000It's like every lib organization, the Sierra Club is now about gay rights.
01:11:41.000You know, the NAACP is also about gay rights.
01:11:45.000And, you know, every organization's about racism now.
01:11:48.000Like, you know, the sort of lib singularity.
01:11:51.000And it's also like that with every normal publication is now just a politics publication.
01:11:56.000So Wired was a tech thing, and maybe they'd write about Congress if something really important came up about copyright law or internet regulation.
01:12:05.000But now it's just, yeah, you have a politics writer and you probably have that at every organization, at every publication.
01:12:10.000Charlie, I love how this just like this morning was one of the more funny reactions when you got it.
01:12:45.000You got all sorts of crazy things going on.
01:12:46.000And the fact that I have some sort of throwaway line, like I'm planning an EMP that like the Charlie Kirk show is, in some ways, we kind of are.
01:12:55.000Because if you think about it, and I did some research of any organization that might be considered mainstream or anyone, MLK truly is a bipartisan worshipped figure.
01:13:06.000And they worship, and for all fairness, the right will take one line from MLK and say he's great because of this.
01:13:12.000And the left will take all the other stuff that he believed, which is the hyper racialization of America.
01:13:16.000And again, I don't want to bury the lead, but how did we get here?
01:13:20.000And how much of our race-obsessed politics is because of the elevating of MLK?
01:13:26.000And so what was originally planned as a little sideshow is going to be the main show on Monday, Jack.
01:13:33.000Well, Charlie, that's what I was going to say.
01:13:36.000That Blake and I just did an entire special on the 60s a couple of weeks ago, which was extremely, extremely highly rated.
01:13:45.000Viewership was through the roof, hit, you know, hit top 10 on Apple Podcast for Politics.
01:13:51.000And I wouldn't say the entire thing is about MLK, but we definitely took some shots or some reviews and we went over the history of MLK pretty extensively and basically came up with this, you know, the formulation that the right needs to stop mythologizing this guy and really needs to stop taking this one line in one speech about having a dream.
01:14:18.000And obviously it sounds great, but you have to actually look at his record and the things that he did and the things that he supported and the people that he supported, the policies that he supported, the mass race riots that were going on all throughout the 1960s that he didn't seem to bat a single eye at that were going on.
01:14:36.000And then the fact that we end up with these massively, massively racialized campuses and a massively racialized society after his career.
01:14:48.000That when the, you know, this is kind of like that, there's a guy on Twitter, Kefe Anon, who says the woke are more correct than the mainstream.
01:14:55.000And he's right in so many respects, because if you go and talk to the wokes or go to talk to anyone on the progressive left, they'll say that the 60s were sort of a new founding of America.
01:15:04.000And they're right, because it was in the 1960s that we decided to rewrite all of U.S. law and all of U.S. jurisprudence, essentially to create this inverted hierarchy of race victimization.
01:15:18.000You can find articles pretty routinely where they'll react to conservatives lionizing MLK and they'll say, conservatives put forward this false version of MLK as believing in, you know, race, you know, a race-blind society.
01:15:31.000And they'll say, no, actually, he believed in affirmative action and heavy racial preferences.
01:15:36.000And you are distorting the record of MLK.
01:15:39.000And then now conservatives are wising up and saying, oh, wait a minute, MLK believed in affirmative action and racial preferences and all this discrimination.
01:15:46.000And everyone, now they're like, they're writing articles about it.
01:15:49.000Oh my gosh, they're writing things agreeing with what we lectured them.
01:15:53.000They were supposed to believe 10 minutes ago.
01:16:46.000And here's what else is interesting about it: we were talking about this the other day with the expanding Overton window now that you could say whatever you want on Twitter, X.
01:16:56.000It's like you used to get in trouble for saying replacement theory.
01:17:00.000Now you put out a tweet about replacement theory or and the replacement reality, whatever.
01:18:15.000No, but I was just thinking about this and I said, why is it that the person that gets their own federal holiday is the person we've never actually criticized?
01:18:24.000Is this the guy that was the father of all nations, Abraham?
01:18:27.000Is this the guy that wrestled with God, Jacob?
01:18:31.000No, I just, it's just, it's so bizarre.
01:18:33.000And the reason, obviously, is that people are afraid of being called a racist, but we're now in this new era, a brave new world, brought to you by Elon Musk.
01:18:41.000And this Martin Luther King, I'm not going to spoil all of it.
01:19:21.000And then I guess he just kind of suggested that Jimmy Kimmel might be a pedophile, which, you know, is an allegation that's thrown around all the time.
01:19:27.000So he suggested Jimmy Kimmel was on Jeffrey Epstein's list.
01:20:21.000But all the attention has been on Rodgers so far.
01:20:23.000Like, oh, will he apologize for all this?
01:20:25.000I think the bigger and funnier thing, and maybe it's almost just not news because this is a development that's been the case for a while, but Jimmy Kimmel is so pathetic now.
01:20:36.000Like, this is the guy who used to be, you know, the man show.
01:20:39.000It was like he did these transgressive comedy, and then he's just the classic.
01:20:44.000Yeah, he's this classic case of this guy who, you know, got his bag, got his show, and now is pulling the ladder up.
01:20:50.000And now he's just all, oh, you know, we have to avoid these deeply hurtful, hurtful, offensive things.
01:20:55.000Here's what Rogers should do: Rogers should go on, find Jimmy Kimmel somewhere, and he should throw a football right at Jimmy Kimmel's crotch so that when Jimmy Kimmel doesn't flinch and doesn't respond, it will confirm to the whole world that Jimmy Kimmel has no balls.
01:21:41.000And that would be the second time that a soft brain, junior college student, you know, wacko, anti-vax, anti-Semite, purveyor, spreader of misinformation, conspiracy theorist, MAGA, whatever other things that have been said by him and other people in the media would be right twice.
01:23:21.000No, no, he came back on today, even though they said he wasn't coming back on, because there's a clip of him talking about Saban's retirement.
01:23:27.000So by definition, that means he was on McAfee's show today.
01:24:51.000After Minnie took McAfee's remarks to mean that Rogers was banned from the show, the host wrote on X, formerly Twitter, to clarify that the show segments, Aaron Rodgers, Tuesdays, has always ended when Rogers' season ended, but that the quarterback will make, quote, random surprise welcomed pop-ins during big events or off-season adventures.
01:25:14.000He never said that Rodgers will never be on the show again.