The Charlie Kirk Show - ThoughtCrime Ep. 3: "Bonus Holes," The End of AA, The Shopping Cart Test

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00:01:33.000 Hello, everybody.

00:01:34.000 Welcome to episode three of Thought Crimes.

00:01:36.000 Joining us tonight is Jack Pisobic, Andrew Colvette, and Blake Neff.

00:01:39.000 Blake, you're famous now.

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00:02:00.000 Same team, but specifically Andrew and Blake and all them who stepped up when I literally could not host yesterday.

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00:02:09.000 And there is a lot of news to cover.

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00:02:30.000 Affirmative action, 6-3 decision.

00:02:32.000 Blake, why don't you kick us off tonight?

00:02:36.000 All right, yeah.

00:02:37.000 So we had the decision came down today in Students for Fair Admissions versus Harvard, which has been worming its way through the federal court system seemingly since like the start of the Trump administration.

00:02:49.000 It's been going a long time.

00:02:50.000 And this was the case that was brought by a coalition of, it was a lot of like pro-Asian activists about the fact that Harvard has like very blatant anti-Asian discrimination and as well as anti-white discrimination in its admissions process.

00:03:08.000 And so the decision finally came down today.

00:03:10.000 It was a 6-3 decision written by Justice Roberts where he said it was evaluating the admissions policies at Harvard and at the University of North Carolina.

00:03:22.000 And it found that both of them were just, it ruled that both of them were unconstitutional.

00:03:26.000 So it took us at least a step closer to actually declaring affirmative action explicitly unconstitutional.

00:03:35.000 Although Roberts kind of pulls his punch where he says, well, you know, you can evaluate race as an individual matter.

00:03:44.000 And so Harvard has already come out saying, like, oh, we're still going to use, we're going to use all of these essays to evaluate people and, you know, to tease out, you know, what their, what their race is.

00:03:55.000 They're already making plans about that.

00:03:57.000 But it's still a big step forward, which you can tell just from how berserk Sonia Sotomayor and Katanji Brown Jackson are in their dissents, where they just absolutely lose their minds at the prospect of affirmative action going away.

00:04:10.000 And same thing with a lot of people on Twitter.

00:04:13.000 So that's probably the best sign that today's decision was a very good one.

00:04:17.000 Andrew.

00:04:19.000 Well, I mean, we talked about this on our show, and I'm curious about Jack's perspective here, but I mean, I give this like a C minus.

00:04:27.000 I think Blake gave it a B minus.

00:04:31.000 And Charlie, you gave it a D.

00:04:34.000 It was actually surprising that Blake was the most positive on it.

00:04:36.000 I mean, I look at this and instantly I looked at Robert's squishy words here.

00:04:42.000 And we predicted that it was just going to, they're just going to find another way to institute the racism regime into college admissions.

00:04:49.000 I mean, is it a better world that we're living in today than we were yesterday?

00:04:53.000 Is it a more fair world?

00:04:55.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:04:56.000 But it really could have been an opportunity for the Supreme Court to completely nuke affirmative action.

00:05:02.000 And now Harvard's basically doing this.

00:05:04.000 If you could throw up, though, however, the 99.

00:05:09.000 It's an interesting graphic we have here because you see Harvard, and Charlie, you had a tweet actually that went pretty viral today about Harvard and their email and how they're like, oh, we're so excited to comply with this because they knew there was a loophole for him.

00:05:25.000 But actually, if you read the part outlined in red, it says, but despite the dissent's assertion to the contrary, universities may not simply establish through application essays or other means the regime we hold unlawful today.

00:05:39.000 A dissenting opinion is generally not the best source of legal advice on how to comply with the majority opinion.

00:05:44.000 What cannot be done directly cannot be done indirectly.

00:05:48.000 So it's actually in the decision, but we already know from what Harvard's putting out publicly that the universities are just going to find another way to do this and they're going to get it through the back door.

00:05:59.000 And we're just going to have to fight this again and again and again.

00:06:03.000 So I give it like a C minus.

00:06:04.000 Yeah, at least it's expressly illegal.

00:06:08.000 And to Blake's point, libs are freaking out, but it's still going to keep happening.

00:06:12.000 And we're just going to have to figure out how to, it's like whack-a-mole.

00:06:16.000 You're going to have to keep like, you know, hitting the affirmative action mole as it comes through other channels. 0.55

00:06:23.000 The reason I rated it so highly is I'm blackpilled enough.

00:06:27.000 I was worried the Supreme Court was just going to say, actually, this is great.

00:06:30.000 They can keep doing it.

00:06:32.000 And your expectations were so low that you're actually pleasantly surprised.

00:06:37.000 Exactly, exactly.

00:06:39.000 And to your point about how we have to fight this forever, like the reason we're in this situation, the reason we're having to evaluate this is this went to the Supreme Court more than 40 years ago in the Bacchi decision in the University of California, where they were evaluating whether it was okay to have racial quotas, explicit racial quotas, where they just set like 15 seats aside for one race.

00:07:02.000 And the court said, quotas are bad, but you can still evaluate race for the sake of diversity.

00:07:08.000 And so that then from that, that's like the entire source of the diversity industrial complex.

00:07:13.000 Like no one was talking about diversity in the 1950s, the 1960s, or the 70s.

00:07:17.000 And then one Supreme Court justice gets won over by this diversity thing.

00:07:22.000 And then, you know, 40 years later, we have this massive diversity industrial complex where every company, every school, every agency has a chief diversity officer.

00:07:31.000 And so you can easily see how this bureaucracy could get pivoted over to, oh, now we have to, we're going to have this massive essay reading industrial complex to find how this person's experience with race is super individualized and adds a ton to their personality.

00:07:48.000 And, you know, they will fight very, very hard to preserve this.

00:07:53.000 And I think it's unfortunate that Justice Roberts backed off from just saying, like, you can't consider race in admissions.

00:08:03.000 Just he could have even gone whole hog and said, you just can't, you can't even collect racial data.

00:08:09.000 You have to obscure racial data because our evidence shows that whenever you consider this, you start doing unconstitutional things. 0.92

00:08:15.000 And maybe we'll get that in a few more years, but I'm annoyed it didn't happen today.

00:08:19.000 Jack.

00:08:21.000 Yeah, no, I'm with you on that, Blake, because we're in a situation now where, again, the same arguments that are being made aren't necessarily about, oh, we're just going to go back to race.

00:08:32.000 It's more they're having this very, you know, blue-pilled normy kind of argument as to say, when did white supremacy end in America?

00:08:41.000 Is it over now?

00:08:42.000 Did it end in the 1980s?

00:08:44.000 Did it end in the 1990s?

00:08:46.000 And when did the white supremacists stop running the country?

00:08:50.000 That's essentially the framework that they're arguing in.

00:08:52.000 And that's just not true.

00:08:53.000 And it's never been true.

00:08:55.000 Okay.

00:08:56.000 This is a situation where people were allowed to come into the schools.

00:09:02.000 This admission process was done through what?

00:09:06.000 Through merit.

00:09:07.000 So who scored better on the tests?

00:09:10.000 It was a very simple process.

00:09:13.000 But then they didn't get the classes that they wanted because years later, suddenly they started saying, no, we want to play social engineering and we want this class to look a certain way or we want that class to look a certain way.

00:09:24.000 And so they start putting it in.

00:09:25.000 So the issue that I see, and I see this with so many conservatives, even with their response to it, to say that, hey, we're, you know, the Dems are the real racist. 0.96

00:09:33.000 The Dems are the real racist.

00:09:35.000 When you're not sitting there and saying, no, actually, it had nothing to do with race to begin with.

00:09:40.000 And it's all about who is better, who are the best candidates for these schools, for these elite institutions.

00:09:48.000 And if you're not the right candidate, then you're not the right candidate.

00:09:50.000 Tough bricks, you know?

00:09:52.000 And I think honestly, though, because you have a situation where, as Blake has said, you know, there's these essays and Harvard put out that letter earlier saying, oh, we're going to accept the essays.

00:10:02.000 We're going to be doing the essays.

00:10:03.000 Fine.

00:10:04.000 Then everybody out there, just everyone out there, guess what?

00:10:04.000 Then you know what?

00:10:09.000 You are now all black lesbians and you are now going to be writing your essay as the black lesbian and you're going to talk about your experience growing up as a black lesbian in America and how that has affected you and why going to Harvard would make your life so much better. 0.91

00:10:26.000 Yeah.

00:10:26.000 So the question is, you know, how will this apply then at all to federal hiring practices?

00:10:31.000 Because people don't recognize or realize how much, how widespread this affirmative action regime really is.

00:10:38.000 And the one I want to focus on, Jack, to kind of throw back to you, is the military.

00:10:43.000 I think that does this decision open an opportunity for a complaint?

00:10:48.000 And is there affirmative action in the military?

00:10:50.000 I've heard conflicting.

00:10:52.000 I mean, I think there is obviously in the military, but let's say that it definitely is in defense contracting and certain parts of the military.

00:10:58.000 Does this open an opportunity for a serious challenge next summer to go after the practice of affirmative action in federal hiring?

00:11:07.000 Well, I think that's right.

00:11:08.000 And so the military versus federal hiring, there's a number of different ways that you can be hired by the federal government outside of the military.

00:11:18.000 So typically, if you're going into, just looking at the military perspective, obviously there's lots of onboarding programs.

00:11:24.000 The most commonly known ones, though, I think, of course, are enlisting in the military or if you have a college degree, going and going and becoming a member of swearing in as a member of the officer corps.

00:11:38.000 I actually had the opportunity to do both, interestingly enough.

00:11:40.000 So when you go into enlist, you take something called the ASVAP, the Armed Services Vocational Aptitude Battery, which is still a test, which determines whether or not you can get in.

00:11:51.000 And then depending on your score on the test, that determines which jobs are open to you.

00:11:56.000 So when I went in for the Navy, that opened up a certain amount of jobs.

00:12:00.000 When I either, they basically said to me, you can either be a nuclear engineer or an intelligence analyst.

00:12:05.000 I said, I want Intel because I never want there to be an issue with the nuclear reactor.

00:12:09.000 And then they said, hey, let's call Psovic.

00:12:11.000 Let's get him in there.

00:12:12.000 And then Fukushima happened a few years later.

00:12:14.000 So I was right.

00:12:16.000 And on the officer side, it is a little bit more.

00:12:19.000 The officer side, though, I got to say, Charlie, that is where, and by the way, it's the same ASVAP, regardless of which branch you're going into.

00:12:26.000 So there's not a different one for Army, Navy, Marines, Air Force.

00:12:29.000 It's all the same one.

00:12:30.000 Now, on the officer side, if there were any social engineering going on, that's where you would definitely have that come in because they adopt, same as these institutions, this holistic approach.

00:12:42.000 Yes, there is a test, but that's only one piece of it.

00:12:45.000 And then there's a whole, you know, what they call the holistic approach, which of course is taken from university admissions to determine who can become an officer in whatever various community you might be going into.

00:12:56.000 So there's obviously the branches, but then, so I'm more familiar with Intelligence Corps, but there's, you know, there's different in the Navy, for example, there's surface warfare, there's submariners, electronic warfare, there's many different, obviously, and then various other logistics and obviously legal.

00:13:13.000 Of course, Ron DeSantis also was a member of the legal corps as a JAG officer, for example.

00:13:18.000 So the JAG Corps.

00:13:20.000 There's a few interesting things here, Jack, which is one, back in 2020, there was, you know, during the big Floyd meltdown, there was a kind of a set of recommendations that was produced in the military for how to improve diversity in the upper officer ranks.

00:13:37.000 And one of the recommendations, which was accepted, I can't remember which official accepted it.

00:13:42.000 It was, I think one of, I think one of Trump's appointees at DOD, where one of the recommendations was remove any aptitude tests or requirements related to officer promotion that were hindering diversity.

00:13:58.000 And that was actually accepted by that senior official.

00:14:02.000 I don't have the name in front of me.

00:14:03.000 And I don't know what ramifications that might have produced yet, but that was something they did accept in late 2020 as something they should aim to do.

00:14:11.000 And another thing was that there was a, I believe an admiral who a few years ago, they started, they removed photos from promotion boards.

00:14:23.000 They stopped using photos.

00:14:25.000 And then this guy came out and said, actually, we should put the photos back in because that will improve our diversity shot.

00:14:31.000 So we're definitely seeing.

00:14:32.000 Yeah.

00:14:33.000 So an officer board is different than the onboarding process that I was just talking about.

00:14:33.000 Yeah.

00:14:37.000 An officer board is when you're going up for promotion.

00:14:40.000 So in an officer board, the board is constituted in Navy.

00:14:44.000 It's actually down in Tennessee, believe it or not, in Millington.

00:14:47.000 And this is where a group of officers is brought together and then they review packages for promotion into these higher echelons.

00:14:56.000 And one of the main, right, one of the main components of this is having a photo of the officer there.

00:15:04.000 So initially at one point, there was a huge push to say, you know what, we want to be colorblind.

00:15:09.000 We don't want anything to do with this.

00:15:11.000 We're going to remove the photos.

00:15:13.000 And that was pushed for a while.

00:15:14.000 But then suddenly, all along the while, it came back and they said, no, we're going to put those pictures back in because essentially, and these are very fast, by the way.

00:15:24.000 When an officer board is being held, the time that you take to actually look at each officer that goes through for the board is very quick.

00:15:32.000 We're talking minutes.

00:15:33.000 So you're looking at specific components of their command, scores that have been approved.

00:15:38.000 And that picture actually, because you only have a few minutes to look at it, plays a huge role.

00:15:43.000 And of course, they're never going to come out and admit this, but it's obvious why they put it back in.

00:15:47.000 They put it back in because they want to promote diversity.

00:15:50.000 Yeah, and so, I mean, this is a good thing, but let's talk about the fundamental lie of what this is based on.

00:15:57.000 Andrew, you could pick, you know, pick in here whoever wants to.

00:16:00.000 The fundamental lie is that somehow disparate incomes can be, let's just take the most innocent reading as if there's not a clearly anti-white, anti-Asian agenda here, which of course there, right?

00:16:12.000 We said that and everyone lost their mind.

00:16:13.000 But there is a war on white people, and it's been that way for a couple of decades. 0.62

00:16:17.000 But putting that aside, let's pretend they mean well, okay?

00:16:20.000 That they want to try to fix disparate incomes and impact.

00:16:25.000 That somehow you can do this by disenfranchising.

00:16:29.000 But there's a cost to everything, isn't there?

00:16:31.000 So, Andrew, that if you're going to all of a sudden accommodate something that doesn't matter against something that does matter, there's a cost to everything in life.

00:16:39.000 And what you're going to get is you're going to get an institution that is not in the pursuit of excellence, instead, is in the pursuit of parity or egalitarianism.

00:16:48.000 You're going to get this.

00:16:49.000 And I mean, so here's a thought prime interesting question.

00:16:52.000 Andrew, you can go first.

00:16:53.000 Has affirmative action been one of the reasons why our colleges are more mediocre than they really should be?

00:17:01.000 Is that fair to say when you do not have excellence be the primary reason to let people into your schools?

00:17:08.000 And this is not something that is foreign to Victor Davis Hansen, for example.

00:17:11.000 Victor Davis Hansen has spoken out for decades, saying that the students that are coming into Stanford, they do not know basic information, that they are not equipped or prepared.

00:17:21.000 They do not work as hard.

00:17:22.000 They should take an exit exam after they're there because they're barely not learning anything.

00:17:26.000 Andrew, is that too far to say?

00:17:27.000 Has affirmative action contributed to what I would call the college scandal? 0.50

00:17:32.000 Yeah, I mean, I think there's no doubt about it.

00:17:36.000 I think it's, you know, we just had somebody actually the day I was guest hosting for you, we had somebody on the show, James Fishback, who was talking about the bastardization of high school speech and debate classes.

00:17:50.000 So now they have all these woke judges that are coming in and basically telling kids they're not allowed to talk about certain topics.

00:17:56.000 So they're not allowed to defend capitalism, Israel.

00:17:59.000 They're not allowed to defend, you know, honestly, affirmative action was one of the things they're not allowed to defend.

00:18:06.000 This is the day before the ruling came down.

00:18:08.000 But I also think, so when you do that, you have an ideological desert on college campuses.

00:18:14.000 You also have a bunch of kids that then become really good at self-censoring and not so much defending ideas, right?

00:18:21.000 So I think that's a big part of it.

00:18:23.000 Yeah, I think you also have the fact that you're just getting less qualified people.

00:18:28.000 It was a funny debate that happened today because as soon as the ruling came out, we got that really annoying tweet from Michelle Obama.

00:18:37.000 And everybody on the right was like, yeah, you stole somebody's spot at Princeton that was more qualified than you.

00:18:43.000 You don't believe me?

00:18:44.000 I know that she's like this big celebrity right now.

00:18:46.000 You don't believe me?

00:18:47.000 Go look at your honors thesis.

00:18:49.000 The thing was like written from an eighth grader's perspective.

00:18:54.000 There was multiple typos in the conclusion.

00:18:56.000 It just has a bunch of typos in it.

00:18:58.000 It's amazing.

00:18:59.000 I kid you not.

00:19:00.000 It was written like this.

00:19:01.000 It was, I believe being a black person at Princeton is good because.

00:19:06.000 And I think that it's not okay to discriminate against black people because it was the most, I mean, the clauses of these sentences were literally rudimentary.

00:19:19.000 They were elementary.

00:19:21.000 So I think, yeah, the quality goes down.

00:19:23.000 But I think another thing that, and actually, Blake highlighted this.

00:19:27.000 So Blake, feel free to chime in.

00:19:28.000 But there's this case that you mentioned before, Baki, right?

00:19:33.000 It was argued in front of the Supreme Court, and it was about racial quotas.

00:19:40.000 And now it was Patrick Chavis and Alan Bakke, right?

00:19:44.000 So Bakke was a white guy who challenged racial quotas at UC Davis.

00:19:50.000 All roads lead to UC Davis.

00:19:52.000 Yeah, I know, right?

00:19:53.000 Patrick Chavis is a black guy who was admitted to UC Davis under affirmative action the year Baki was rejected.

00:20:00.000 Okay.

00:20:00.000 So this is a really interesting story.

00:20:02.000 Go ahead and throw Baki's picture up here, right?

00:20:05.000 Or Chavis' picture.

00:20:06.000 It's number 100, I believe.

00:20:09.000 So this guy becomes the poster child of why, like State Senator Tom Hayden asked his fellow Californians, who made the most of his medical school education?

00:20:22.000 From whom did California taxpayers benefit more?

00:20:25.000 He was the poster child of affirmative action because he was this black man that wouldn't have gotten in had it not been for affirmative action. 0.87

00:20:32.000 He supposedly went on to have this great career.

00:20:35.000 But lo and behold, this guy ended up, I got to get the exact number, but he was sued.

00:20:43.000 I'm talking like over 21 times for medical malpractice and gross negligence.

00:20:51.000 The California medical board brought 90 counts of misconduct and gross negligence.

00:20:56.000 And instead of being the perfect example of a doctor, he literally was stripped of his license because he was so incompetent.

00:21:04.000 This guy should be the poster child to defend what the Supreme Court just did today.

00:21:09.000 And most people have never revisited the case.

00:21:11.000 The New York Times did this big expose on him celebrating him.

00:21:16.000 He was the poster child.

00:21:18.000 And then it turns out he was the exact opposite of that, but they never wrote about it.

00:21:22.000 So the New York Times never closed the case.

00:21:24.000 They never corrected the record.

00:21:26.000 And ironically enough, he ended up dying at like 50 years old.

00:21:30.000 He got murdered on the street, which is really sad.

00:21:33.000 And in 2002, at the age of 50, murdered by carjackers on the streets of Hawthorne.

00:21:38.000 So he's like this cautionary tale wrapped up in a blue city bow.

00:21:44.000 It's crazy. 0.89

00:21:45.000 You're missing the best anecdote, which is that during the malpractice investigation into him, a tape recording surfaced in which he was chanting, liar, liar, pants on fire, while one of his patients was screaming in agony over his poor handling of them.

00:22:03.000 Yeah, wasn't he like a liposuction doctor or something? 0.85

00:22:05.000 I mean, that's what he killed someone.

00:22:06.000 He was doing like fly-by-night liposuction operation, and the person died, and he like fled the scene after it was botched.

00:22:14.000 So he was missing for a time period.

00:22:17.000 Charlie, to answer your question, Dr. Chavis is what you get when you stop caring about excellence and meritocracy and you just care about skin tone.

00:22:27.000 And so, Blake, am I being too, let's just say, cruel to college to say that affirmative action is one of the reasons why colleges have become places of mediocrity where low IQ thinking reigns supreme.

00:22:40.000 Okay, tell me why.

00:22:41.000 Not at all.

00:22:42.000 There's actually, I'm just remembering this, and I'm bringing it up on Heterodox Academy.

00:22:47.000 It's not on Sun on the Laptop, guys.

00:22:49.000 Don't bring it up.

00:22:49.000 But it's this letter that was written by a California judge in 1969, which is Yale law at that time.

00:22:58.000 This was before the Supreme Court said you couldn't do quotas.

00:23:00.000 So Yale basically just announced they're going to do a racial quota.

00:23:03.000 And this California Court of Appeals judge, Macklin Fleming, wrote a letter to the dean of Yale Law School.

00:23:11.000 And then I think he eventually published, made the letter public in some way, because we do have it now.

00:23:16.000 And so I'm reading this letter on Heterodox Academy, and he pointed out what was going to happen as a result of this.

00:23:23.000 And it's so prescient.

00:23:24.000 Remember, this is being written in 1969.

00:23:27.000 And what Judge Fleming writes is: he first anticipates, well, they're less qualified, so they're going to not do as well in class.

00:23:35.000 He just predicts that.

00:23:37.000 And then here's what he predicts will happen in the future: quote, no one can be expected to accept an inferior status willingly.

00:23:45.000 Black students, unable to compete on even terms in the study of law, inevitably will seek other means to achieve recognition and self-expression.

00:23:55.000 This is likely to take two forms.

00:23:57.000 First, agitation to change the environment from one where they are unable to compete to one in which they can.

00:24:04.000 Demands will be made for the elimination of competition, reduction in standards of performance, adoption of courses of study which do not require intensive legal analysis, and recognition for academic credit of sociological activities which have only an indirect relationship to legal training.

00:24:22.000 Second, it seems probable that this group will seek personal satisfaction and public recognition by aggressive conduct, which, although ostensibly directed at external injustices and problems, will in fact be primarily motivated by the psychological needs of the members of the group to overcome feelings of inferiority caused by lack of success in their studies.

00:24:50.000 You think he's predicting race hoaxes?

00:24:52.000 Is that what you're calling here?

00:24:53.000 He's predicting that, but also, I mean, we've literally seen that, where professors are giving extra credit if you're doing political activities on campus.

00:25:02.000 We've seen it's famously at a lot of universities, the sort of grievance studies departments, black studies, queer studies, women's and gender studies, these are almost always low standards.

00:25:14.000 They're very easy to get A's in.

00:25:16.000 Let me ask one more question, Jack.

00:25:18.000 Maybe just from the institution of colleges, it's important to wonder who's actually pushing this.

00:25:24.000 It's not the donors.

00:25:25.000 The donors really don't care.

00:25:26.000 In fact, they're against it.

00:25:27.000 It's not the state legislatures in a lot of these states.

00:25:30.000 It seems as if it's actually the faculty and the administrators.

00:25:34.000 So, Jack, they've been centrally planning these colleges for 40 years with a regime of anti-racism.

00:25:40.000 And the result is colleges that are crummier than ever and crappier than ever.

00:25:45.000 Jack Posobiec, final thoughts on this topic.

00:25:49.000 Well, I mean, Charlie, you're right.

00:25:50.000 And I think higher education at this level probably isn't meant for all people.

00:25:55.000 Most people don't need it.

00:25:56.000 It's just a way for them to get into debt slavery.

00:25:59.000 But I also wanted to point out that as positive as we've all been in talking about RFK Jr., he's come out extremely against this decision.

00:26:10.000 He's saying that colorblind admissions tend to favor those who are already in the circle of privilege.

00:26:15.000 It favors those who grew up in affluent educated households like himself, obviously.

00:26:20.000 Wouldn't you like to invite in those who have been left out in the cold?

00:26:24.000 So going full pathos with this.

00:26:26.000 RFK Jr. completely coming out against the Supreme Court today, really burgeoning, of course, his family's legacy on politically speaking with the Civil Rights Act and trying to gather up a lot of those votes in terms of that the same way that his father and uncle did.

00:26:43.000 Yeah, that's remember, he is a Democrat, everybody, as Blake keeps on reminding me when I praise him.

00:26:49.000 And I appreciate that counterbalance whenever I praise him, but I'm glad he's running and I think that it's exciting that he challenges the corporate leviathan that runs our country.

00:26:58.000 Okay, this actually ties beautifully from one topic to the other.

00:27:02.000 So we go from the policy of the regime of anti-racism to a story that has gone totally viral that shows what people fear the most.

00:27:11.000 And it is not an exaggeration to say in this video that some people truly fear being called a racist more than getting murdered.

00:27:23.000 That is not an exaggeration. 0.94

00:27:25.000 Being called a racist would make you tremble in fear more than the idea of actually getting your cut, your head cut off. 0.82

00:27:36.000 Play cut 85, I am not exaggerating.

00:27:39.000 And there's a lot of elements here, and there is a very, very, very base take here.

00:27:44.000 Is he wrong?

00:27:45.000 Play cut 85.

00:27:47.000 Why is it happening?

00:27:50.000 I'm being arrested?

00:27:51.000 Yes.

00:27:52.000 Or what's that?

00:27:57.000 I'll be with you.

00:27:58.000 Just one second.

00:28:03.000 But still, he.

00:28:06.000 I will need for you to fill out a statement for him.

00:28:09.000 I don't want him arrested.

00:28:10.000 I just want to leave this alone.

00:28:11.000 But he had a weapon on him and it was terrorist threats.

00:28:14.000 Brandishing is not a crime with a knife.

00:28:16.000 Brandishing is the only crime for a gun.

00:28:18.000 Terroristic threats, though, sorry.

00:28:22.000 Because he said die to me and had his knife out.

00:28:25.000 All that was done.

00:28:27.000 The threats, everything.

00:28:35.000 I understand, but we still have a job to do. 0.56

00:28:37.000 Now he's going to say, he's going to think I'm doing this because I'm white and he's black.

00:28:42.000 Man, or he's homeless and I'm not. 0.93

00:28:44.000 I don't want him.

00:28:45.000 But did he do what he did?

00:28:46.000 Yeah, but I don't want him thinking I did it because he's in whatever situation he's in.

00:28:51.000 I just want him to leave us alone.

00:28:53.000 I doubt that.

00:28:55.000 Oh my gosh.

00:28:57.000 I mean, my voice breaks that bad. 0.93

00:29:00.000 Please euthanize me.

00:29:02.000 No, but here is the... 0.82

00:29:05.000 Yeah, no, it's Georgia.

00:29:06.000 Brian Kemp.

00:29:06.000 Yeah.

00:29:07.000 And so you got a black terrorist with a knife. 0.98

00:29:12.000 And by the way, that's not an exaggeration of a description. 0.95

00:29:15.000 That is this amazing police.

00:29:16.000 And I love this based.

00:29:18.000 I'm inferring she's black, and I don't want, I think she's a black police officer based on public reporting. 1.00

00:29:23.000 Yes.

00:29:24.000 And if I'm wrong, please correct me.

00:29:25.000 But I just, and first of all, you could tell she's not very tall because she's looking up, right?

00:29:31.000 So, and she's just doing her job.

00:29:33.000 And she's like, well, didn't he do what you said he did?

00:29:38.000 It is hard to put into words here.

00:29:40.000 However, yes, let's make fun of him first.

00:29:43.000 Let's go through that cycle.

00:29:44.000 But what did this guy?

00:29:45.000 What did this guy fear?

00:29:47.000 This guy feared that he might get doxxed, that he might get the Karen treatment.

00:29:51.000 But first, let's start here.

00:29:53.000 Jack, what country do we live in where a white metrosexual beta male, Chris Hayes type, starts crying terribly when a guy who's threatening, I assume, his family with a knife, and he starts crying.

00:30:06.000 And by the way, we just got to play this one more time.

00:30:08.000 Cut 86.

00:30:09.000 This is going to be the new meme.

00:30:10.000 It's the new ah, screaming up to the heavens. 0.99

00:30:13.000 Why shall you arrest black criminals? 1.00

00:30:15.000 I would, I don't want them to think it's because they're black. 1.00

00:30:18.000 Play cut 86 again. 0.90

00:30:20.000 He's going to think I'm doing this because I'm white and he's black.

00:30:24.000 Or he's homeless and I'm not.

00:30:26.000 I don't want to.

00:30:27.000 But did he do what he did?

00:30:29.000 Yeah, but I don't want him thinking I did it because he's in whatever situation he's in.

00:30:33.000 I just want him to leave us alone.

00:30:35.000 I doubt that.

00:30:37.000 Okay, Jack.

00:30:39.000 I didn't want anyone to think I did it because he's in whatever situation he's in.

00:30:45.000 I just did it because I'm not racist.

00:30:48.000 I'm just, I don't have to arrest him.

00:30:50.000 Look, you gotta, and for folks who are listening on the podcast side, this is a, I mean, that individual is pretty big, actually, physically.

00:30:59.000 I mean, you're looking at someone who's at least six foot because you can see the fence, and that person's at least as tall as the fence based on the angle of the body cam and possibly a little bit taller than that fence.

00:31:09.000 Seems to be, you know, pretty got some mass, not a skinny guy, but is by any means, but is just losing it.

00:31:16.000 That's a man you're listening to, by the way, folks, on the podcast.

00:31:20.000 You are listening to the voice of a man whose voice is cracking because he realizes that the psychopathic criminal that was about to stab his family is now about to be arrested.

00:31:30.000 Keep in mind, this is a this is someone from Georgia.

00:31:33.000 This is the deep south.

00:31:35.000 This is a place where originally, you know, it used to be, you know, the Southern Pride, et cetera, flying the rebel flag, etc., all, all this stuff.

00:31:43.000 Now it's like completely flipped on its end.

00:31:47.000 Yeah, no, this is exactly right.

00:31:50.000 This is rebel spirit becomes white guilt.

00:31:52.000 It's a complete one, as if there's no nuance, right?

00:31:54.000 Total 1-8.

00:31:55.000 Well, you know, he's tall, but I am checking, and a soy plant can grow to up to six and a half feet tall.

00:32:02.000 So, okay.

00:32:04.000 Hold on.

00:32:05.000 Hold on.

00:32:06.000 I spotted that last soy that tall.

00:32:09.000 With a man bun, by the way.

00:32:11.000 He's got a man button.

00:32:11.000 I know.

00:32:13.000 Throw up 101.

00:32:14.000 I spotted this when you played it last time, Charlie.

00:32:16.000 That's a man bun. 0.55

00:32:18.000 I mean, if there's Zoom, are you sure this was not in Boulder, Colorado?

00:32:23.000 Are we sure?

00:32:24.000 This was not in Boulder.

00:32:26.000 I think half the men in Boulder, Colorado have man buns and cowboy boots.

00:32:32.000 And Patagonia jacket.

00:32:33.000 Can't stand Boulder.

00:32:35.000 Sorry if you're listening in Boulder.

00:32:36.000 It's just.

00:32:36.000 No, it's a unique portion of hell.

00:32:40.000 So, no, but Andrew.

00:32:43.000 No, there's a lot of dynamics.

00:32:46.000 Let's just remind ourselves. 0.96

00:32:47.000 This is a black cop he's telling it to. 0.88

00:32:50.000 And she finds, she's like, wait, but did he not do it?

00:32:54.000 But first of all, let's just go back to the facts.

00:32:56.000 He called the cops.

00:32:58.000 So obviously he can't handle himself.

00:33:00.000 Obviously, he felt threatened.

00:33:01.000 Like, okay, fine, call the cops.

00:33:02.000 It's the right thing to do.

00:33:04.000 And then he intervenes in what could only be described as a trained response.

00:33:09.000 This is not normal.

00:33:11.000 Somebody taught him to have this kind of Pavlovian response, right?

00:33:14.000 Exactly, Jack.

00:33:15.000 This is conditioned, right?

00:33:17.000 This was something through years of initiation, years of incantation, years of training, this, that, this, that, that he was, he was made for a moment like this.

00:33:28.000 He went to the halls of Brown to be prepared that one day he could say, I don't know what they were going through.

00:33:37.000 I don't know his condition.

00:33:38.000 By the way, what an unbelievably racist thing to say that every time you see a black person, you assume that they're in poverty and they're struggling.

00:33:45.000 Like, oh, I don't know what they're going through. 1.00

00:33:49.000 Or maybe he's just a lunatic. 0.99

00:33:51.000 Jack Pesobic. 0.91

00:33:52.000 Well, Charlie, there's also, right, so that's also part of the learned helplessness and the conditioned response here from the left.

00:33:58.000 Because again, remember, and I talked about this a lot going back to the Supreme Court when Katachi Brand Jackson came in.

00:34:04.000 Because when we remember when she was giving those light sentences to pedophiles, and specifically some of the ones that she was talking about were saying, we're all talking about the person's background, the person's what they went through, what they were going through in life.

00:34:19.000 This is a different way of looking at criminal justice.

00:34:24.000 It is a way that is preached by the institutional left.

00:34:26.000 It's a way that's also beyond universities and that system, it's pushed through mainstream media.

00:34:32.000 It's this idea that there are two classes of society.

00:34:34.000 It's inherently Marxist.

00:34:36.000 One is the oppressor class.

00:34:37.000 One is the oppressed class.

00:34:39.000 So if you adhere to that worldview, then any belief, right?

00:34:43.000 Anything that occurs from the oppressed class is through their response to oppression by the uppers, by the, you know, by the bourgeois, whatever it is, right?

00:34:55.000 Whatever that oppressor class is.

00:34:56.000 And he, as a white colonizer, therefore is feeling the white guilt of bringing down more oppression on someone who's clearly even oppressed their entire life. 0.97

00:35:05.000 Even while Duke is literally trying to kill your family with the knife right now. 0.94

00:35:09.000 And so that's a trained response.

00:35:11.000 But, but, but, let's now go. 1.00

00:35:13.000 Again, he over, he was a total moron about this. 0.98

00:35:16.000 But if he would have done this a little bit differently, let's say he would have went to the cop and been like, yo, I really don't want to be involved in this. 0.99

00:35:24.000 You know, I didn't know he's going to get arrested.

00:35:26.000 I'm not filling out a form.

00:35:28.000 And he just walked away, but he showed his card.

00:35:31.000 But what if the real card was not that?

00:35:33.000 What if the real card was what he said was that I didn't want him to think.

00:35:38.000 What if he was afraid of doxing cancellation, losing his job the same way of what happened in Central Park?

00:35:45.000 Not the Central Park V. We're not going to talk about it this week, but Central Park Karen.

00:35:49.000 The bird watching thing?

00:35:49.000 Remember the story?

00:35:51.000 I'm a little rusty on the details.

00:35:53.000 So there's multiple elements here.

00:35:55.000 There's the Central Park Birdwatcher.

00:35:58.000 There's the more recent story with the girl that was fighting with the black youths for the bike to rent the bike, the pregnant lady at the hospital.

00:36:09.000 And then she ended up getting, you know, at least put on leave because she did that.

00:36:13.000 And then don't forget Daniel Penny, right?

00:36:16.000 I mean, the whole Daniel Penny thing plays into it.

00:36:18.000 It's a different scenario, but this is social conditioning.

00:36:21.000 Like, this trains people to respond a certain way.

00:36:24.000 Well, no, so the point is, maybe the guy's just freaking got an IQ of 150.

00:36:24.000 Yeah.

00:36:29.000 He realizes this thing could go viral, and he just like got himself out of it.

00:36:33.000 I don't know.

00:36:34.000 You know, like he, he literally was like, I'm not going to lose my job.

00:36:37.000 Maybe he's got a house with six kids at it and he's got to keep his job.

00:36:37.000 Maybe he's got it.

00:36:41.000 And he instantly like clued in.

00:36:43.000 I mean, Jack.

00:36:45.000 Probably not, but it was actually smart in that way, which is sad.

00:36:48.000 It's sad that that's the society we live in.

00:36:51.000 Well, he's being praised by people on the left.

00:36:52.000 So Jack, remind us of Central Park Karen.

00:36:55.000 So the Central Park Karen, and this was that interesting case where both of them had the same last name, even though they were completely unrelated, Christian Cooper and Amy Cooper.

00:36:55.000 Right.

00:37:06.000 She brings, okay, in the video, in the video, we see that a woman is with a black man.

00:37:13.000 She's calling the police on the black man saying, this guy threatened me.

00:37:16.000 I'm here alone in the park.

00:37:18.000 I'm with my dog.

00:37:20.000 He is threatening me.

00:37:21.000 He's making threatening comments, threatening gestures.

00:37:23.000 I feel unsafe.

00:37:24.000 I'm calling the police.

00:37:25.000 He starts filming her saying, she's calling the police because I'm a black man.

00:37:29.000 And I tried to tell her to put the dog's leash on because this, and keep in mind, this is during the height of COVID.

00:37:35.000 This was right around the same time.

00:37:38.000 It was like the same day.

00:37:39.000 This is the same week.

00:37:40.000 Yeah.

00:37:41.000 I think it was the same day, to be honest, May 25th, right?

00:37:45.000 But then the video came out a little bit later.

00:37:48.000 And so all this is going on.

00:37:50.000 But of course, just like with any viral video, you have to play that game.

00:37:54.000 What happened 30 seconds before?

00:37:58.000 And so this whole thing goes off.

00:38:00.000 And obviously, this is what we wanted to get into. 0.85

00:38:03.000 She gets doxxed. 1.00

00:38:04.000 She loses her job.

00:38:06.000 She loses the dog at one point, eventually gets the dog back because the dog is unadopted by her, by the adoption agency.

00:38:12.000 It's actually taken back.

00:38:14.000 The gentleman involved in all of this, this guy who accused her of being racist, Christian Cooper, he's getting a TV show now for birdwatching on, I want to say it's Nat Geo.

00:38:27.000 I don't see it here right now, but it's, yeah, it's one of those networks.

00:38:32.000 And the dirty little secret is, is that guy in the early days, and I've got it screenshotted because I always keep the receipts.

00:38:40.000 He admitted later on Facebook that before he filmed the video, he said that he was going to take her dog from her.

00:38:47.000 And he said, I keep special things in my pockets to make dogs come, and you're not going to like what happens if I need to use them.

00:38:56.000 So he admitted on his own Facebook that he threatened her, right?

00:38:59.000 That's obviously threatening language, obviously threatening the dog.

00:39:02.000 She calls the police because she's feeling threatened.

00:39:05.000 And it doesn't matter because the entire hate mob and even us, like we're all guilty of it because we still all refer to it as the Central Park Karen.

00:39:14.000 Hey, I just want to quickly say that I'm getting some support in the chat about my Boulder take.

00:39:21.000 They said it's 20 BG Lent says Boulder is 27 square miles surrounded by reality.

00:39:27.000 They aren't landing free will.

00:39:29.000 That's not reality.

00:39:30.000 That's not true.

00:39:31.000 So, well, fine.

00:39:32.000 Freewell75 says they aren't listening in Boulder.

00:39:35.000 That's why I left Colorado.

00:39:37.000 My state got broken.

00:39:38.000 Amen, brother.

00:39:39.000 Charlie and I have literally.

00:39:41.000 How many texts have we exchanged about Boulder?

00:39:44.000 I want to call on Blake in a second, but the reason that we don't like that whole corridor up there, right?

00:39:49.000 Boulder, Westminster, is that you have the most disgusting Silicon Valley people that then aesthetically appropriate Colorado mountain culture.

00:39:58.000 I'm like, dude, you can't pitch a tent. 0.71

00:40:00.000 Like, stop wearing flannel.

00:40:02.000 Like, the whole, like, you don't not know what to do with those boots, okay?

00:40:05.000 And those hiking shoes.

00:40:06.000 They all have boots and they come in to Starbucks.

00:40:11.000 And like three months ago, they were working in Menlo Park and they got reallocated to some data center that just got built, you know, right there in Westminster or Broomfield on the way to Boulder.

00:40:22.000 Like, no, you're not, actually.

00:40:22.000 Like, I'm a mountain man.

00:40:24.000 Like, you can't boil water to save your life in Rocky Mountain National Park, pal.

00:40:29.000 Blake, your thoughts?

00:40:30.000 That's by the way, Hick Libs. 0.64

00:40:30.000 Not on that. 0.64

00:40:36.000 I found the exact thing Christian Cooper said, which this is literally what he posted on Facebook himself.

00:40:41.000 And we wouldn't even have the evidence for it otherwise.

00:40:43.000 Oh, this is the guy?

00:40:45.000 The Christian Cooper guy, the guy who has his own TV show on National Geographic now.

00:40:49.000 Okay, got it.

00:40:50.000 And he's like, look, he asked her to leash her dog or something.

00:40:54.000 And she told him to buzz off.

00:40:56.000 And he said, if you're going to do what you want, I'm going to do what I want, but you're not going to like it.

00:41:02.000 And then he beckoned the dog toward him with a dog treat.

00:41:05.000 And so I just feel it was like very rational to think that he was going to try to poison the dog.

00:41:11.000 And that's basically what set her off by his own admission.

00:41:15.000 And then, yeah, as you said, she lost her job.

00:41:17.000 And there was a whole genre of videos that started happening that summer.

00:41:20.000 I don't have it in front of me, but there was one where this absolute psycho guy stalked a woman back to her home and is like recording her license plate and calling her a Karen.

00:41:31.000 And she's like screaming for him to go away and trying to cover it up because she knows that this guy can publish the video and ruin her life.

00:41:39.000 Or that Jonathan Pentland guy in, I think it was Columbia, South Carolina.

00:41:43.000 There's this guy literally wandering their neighborhood, like sticking his hand down women's shorts and like grabbing babies and try to walk away with them.

00:41:52.000 And the police are just letting this guy roam around all the time.

00:41:56.000 And so he's doing it again.

00:41:58.000 And so one of the neighbors goes to this guy, Jonathan Pentland, is like, hey, can you make this guy go away?

00:42:03.000 Because he's a big, tough army guy.

00:42:05.000 And so he confronts him, tells him to get out of their neighborhood because he's not from around there.

00:42:10.000 And then that, of course, gets recorded by a passerby, gets denounced by the Obama administration.

00:42:14.000 He ends up getting convicted of assault for shoving a guy and probably as a result, messes up his army career.

00:42:21.000 I think he had to get transferred if he wasn't drummed out entirely because he was defending his neighborhood when the cops were literally letting a crazy guy roam around until he'd inevitably try to kill someone, which seems to be what we now have to do, whether it's on a New York subway or anywhere else.

00:42:37.000 You're just supposed to let crazy nut jobs do whatever they want until they literally kill someone.

00:42:43.000 Well, and Blake, by the way, just I left this out.

00:42:46.000 I'm looking this up as well.

00:42:48.000 Amy Cooper, the Central Park Karen, right?

00:42:51.000 Amy Cooper, she was charged.

00:42:53.000 She was actually charged in New York City for filing a false police report at the time.

00:42:59.000 So this hate mob against her, this is two minutes hate.

00:43:03.000 It's straight from 1984.

00:43:04.000 It's straight from Orwell.

00:43:05.000 So when the two minutes hate was directed at her, the government of the city of New York actually filed charges against her for filing a false police report without going into any of the investigation, without looking at the Facebook post, without seeing what had gone down, what had happened.

00:43:22.000 It was eventually completely dropped.

00:43:25.000 They dropped all the charges.

00:43:26.000 They went after her.

00:43:28.000 But she did lose her job.

00:43:29.000 She got the dog back.

00:43:31.000 But she could have, she literally could have faced a year in jail if they got the maximum penalty for this.

00:43:38.000 And it was completely false.

00:43:39.000 It was completely false from the start.

00:43:43.000 Okay, guys, let's go to the next topic here, everybody.

00:43:45.000 Anybody we need to mention in the Rumble chats, Andrew?

00:43:49.000 Forge and Anvil just put $5 forward.

00:43:54.000 So thanks, Forge and Anvil.

00:43:56.000 I think Forge and Anvil is a podcast show dedicated to having hard conversations about politics.

00:44:01.000 From a faith perspective.

00:44:01.000 Okay.

00:44:03.000 You got to read them.

00:44:04.000 If you rumble rant, we got to read them.

00:44:07.000 Well, unless you say something regarding bonus hole.

00:44:11.000 Right, right.

00:44:11.000 So email us.

00:44:13.000 Yeah, there we go.

00:44:14.000 All right.

00:44:15.000 So it went very viral.

00:44:17.000 And look, I'm very honest.

00:44:18.000 When I don't know something, I ask questions.

00:44:20.000 I'm not like a politician where I say, oh, yeah, I know what that is.

00:44:25.000 So who wants to take this next topic?

00:44:28.000 Because I have no idea what the heck this is about.

00:44:31.000 I think Jack should explain bonus hole to Charlie.

00:44:35.000 So, Charlie, I got the bonus holes, right?

00:44:35.000 All right, Charlie.

00:44:39.000 Should I Google that too?

00:44:41.000 Don't Google.

00:44:42.000 No, I'm just asking.

00:44:43.000 You've got bonus holes.

00:44:45.000 You don't know bonus holes?

00:44:47.000 No, Jack.

00:44:48.000 I don't know much about holes and that whole genre, apparently.

00:44:55.000 Whole genre of holes.

00:44:56.000 Yeah, Charlie, there's a wide copy of bonus holes.

00:45:00.000 Who is time for all?

00:45:01.000 There's a wide cornucopia of holes out there, Charlie, and you need to be familiar with all of them.

00:45:06.000 In addition to all the other things that you do with your life, if you're not keeping up, I think that honestly, maybe the next production or the first publication of Thought Crime here could be Holopedia, and we could be putting together an entire compendium of all of the various holes that we're learning about as we continue our journey through the internet.

00:45:29.000 But here we have a new one.

00:45:30.000 It's called the bonus hole.

00:45:33.000 The bonus hole comes to us by way of Joe's Cervical Cancer Trust.

00:45:39.000 What is Joe's Cervical Cancer Trust?

00:45:41.000 This is funded by the British government as well as the LGBT Foundation, described as incredibly important to the work of the Government Equities Office and the Advancement of Equality in the UK.

00:45:41.000 You ask?

00:45:54.000 They ask, okay, what does this have to do with bonus holes?

00:45:56.000 So they're a cervical cancer charity recommending that when they make phone calls to trans individuals or perhaps trans-identifying individuals, that you may want to use less traditional terminology when referring to the part of the female anatomy formerly known as a vagina.

00:46:19.000 And they are now suggesting new terminology be used.

00:46:24.000 In one case, they suggest perhaps a front hole, as opposed obviously to the back hole, or the bonus hole, an alternative word for vagina. 0.81

00:46:34.000 It is important to check which words someone would prefer to use. 0.62

00:46:38.000 So, you know, that's for folks that are making phone calls about the cervical cancer.

00:46:43.000 They just want to make sure that you're using the right terminology.

00:46:46.000 Jack, a week ago, did you know what this term meant?

00:46:50.000 Yeah, no, I had no idea.

00:46:52.000 I actually don't know.

00:46:53.000 All right, so I'm not that out of the way.

00:46:56.000 This is the lingo.

00:46:57.000 This is brand new.

00:46:58.000 Glory hole, you could mock me all you want.

00:46:58.000 Okay.

00:47:00.000 By the way, I'm proud I didn't know what a glory hole was.

00:47:03.000 Okay.

00:47:03.000 Bonus hole.

00:47:04.000 I mean, now we're really pushing the boundaries of decency.

00:47:08.000 Andrew.

00:47:11.000 I mean, I'm just, I'm just, this is like a popcorn moment for me.

00:47:15.000 I'm just enjoying the ride here.

00:47:17.000 You know, I think, listen, it's just another assault on our language.

00:47:22.000 It's like one of those things we have to talk on a show like Thought Crime.

00:47:26.000 But on the other hand, I'm a little offended that we're even having the conversation, if I'm being honest. 0.99

00:47:31.000 Like, should we give them the oxygen that we breathe to even entertain this crap? 0.93

00:47:37.000 I mean, I'm just, you know, we went from like this Pride Month to this weekend of Sodom and Gomorrah that we all saw on the streets of San Francisco and New York and Seattle, where like grown men are on the streets like whipping each other and leather straps and Scott Wiener's out there celebrating it. 0.98

00:47:55.000 And it's like, what have we become?

00:47:59.000 Like, you know, yeah, this is in London, but it might as well be in America. 0.97

00:48:02.000 We're just as degenerate as they are.

00:48:04.000 And you know, actually less like we're more degenerate with certain stuff than the UK.

00:48:08.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:48:09.000 No, and it just, it's, it's really offensive on some level that, you know, like it's funny.

00:48:15.000 So I've, I think it's funny talking about it.

00:48:18.000 On another, on another level, I'm just offended that this is like, you know, we talk about the Overton window, right?

00:48:25.000 It's like, it's just another thing that we inject into the zeitgeist that makes us all poor and more despicable.

00:48:33.000 And it's like...

00:48:36.000 Go ahead, Jag.

00:48:37.000 No, we got a comment in here from William Roche.

00:48:41.000 He said the bonus hole monologues.

00:48:44.000 Yes, the bonus hole monologues have begun, folks.

00:48:48.000 The bonus hole monologues.

00:48:50.000 Like, do you have some sort of hot intellectual take here?

00:48:53.000 I decided to have an esoteric book you have to mention.

00:48:56.000 I wanted to check if this existed, and it turns out it does.

00:49:00.000 So this is a cervical cancer charity, and they've focused with this story on how this is an alternative term for like trans men who I guess they don't want their bonus hole, as it were, to be referred to by its old, you know, by its dead name that is for women only.

00:49:15.000 But I'd heard, I think I'd read about another thing, and so I checked, and the Canadian Cancer Society, bring it up on the screen.

00:49:22.000 I have it on the laptop here.

00:49:24.000 The Canadian Cancer Society has a guide.

00:49:26.000 As a trans woman, do I need to get screened for cervical cancer?

00:49:30.000 And they do helpfully point out that if you are a trans woman, that is a biological male, you do not have a cervix, and so you probably shouldn't get screened for it.

00:49:40.000 Although they know that if you have undergone bottom surgery, there is a very small risk that you can develop cancer in the tissue of your neocervix, as they call it, which would not actually be cervical cancer because it's just made out of some other horrifying biological mess that they use to create it.

00:49:59.000 But, you know, you can get it checked for cancer too.

00:50:04.000 As a trans neocervix, oh, or your neo vagina, and you really do not want to know the science about how that is created. 0.99

00:50:13.000 Mad science. 1.00

00:50:17.000 They kind of cut a haunch out of like your thigh to manufacture it, I believe. 0.80

00:50:22.000 Just the one that comes from the forearm?

00:50:24.000 Or is that actually that might be that might be neo-penis?

00:50:28.000 It's easy to get these mixed up.

00:50:29.000 I think actually for the neocervix, they kind of just carve a gash out of your lower torso. 0.64

00:50:35.000 It doesn't have to be your own skin.

00:50:35.000 Okay.

00:50:36.000 It can't be like a prosthetic or something like that.

00:50:40.000 What's like a, what's the can you make a prosthetic of like a hole, like a void?

00:50:46.000 Your prosthetic void?

00:50:47.000 Yeah, sure.

00:50:47.000 You can make a prosthetic of anything, Blake.

00:50:50.000 I guess, I guess.

00:50:51.000 And then, you know, to keep it from filling in like a wound, you have to, you know, you have to do, you have to use those dilators to keep them from closing up.

00:50:59.000 It's pretty horrifying.

00:51:00.000 That's true.

00:51:01.000 That's true.

00:51:02.000 Do Charlie know what that is?

00:51:03.000 Have we taught him that vocab word yet?

00:51:05.000 Wait, they bore with holes.

00:51:06.000 That's not even.

00:51:08.000 That's not even novel.

00:51:10.000 That's like, that's like old, that's old lore at this point.

00:51:12.000 The dilators, Charlie, do you know about those for this lovely trans anatomy? 0.99

00:51:19.000 No.

00:51:20.000 Oh, well, you see, when you make a trans woman, they're new. 1.00

00:51:25.000 If you give them bottom surgery, it turns out that when you make a like fake vagina by just carving a gash in someone's torso, your body surprisingly, your body surprisingly thinks that this is just a giant open wound and tries to heal it. 0.98

00:51:39.000 And so the only way you can keep your body from waging war on your real identity as a trans person is to literally stick a gigantic you-know-what up your neo-vagina to keep it from closing up. 0.87

00:51:52.000 And you have to do this for hours a day when you first get it. 0.84

00:51:55.000 And basically, you have to do it forever, otherwise, it closes up.

00:51:58.000 So now you know, Charlie.

00:52:01.000 I can't.

00:52:02.000 So is that that's not technically a bonus hole, or it is.

00:52:05.000 It's a dilator.

00:52:07.000 Dilator.

00:52:07.000 Bonus hole dilator.

00:52:11.000 That's a neo-vagina, Charlie. 1.00

00:52:13.000 Neo bonus hole. 0.86

00:52:15.000 Anyone have any other thoughts on this topic before we move to the next one?

00:52:15.000 Be careful.

00:52:18.000 No, let's go to the next one.

00:52:20.000 I think, I think, well, the last thing I just have to say is, guys, you know, just you know what they say?

00:52:25.000 Grab them by the bonus hole.

00:52:31.000 You get extra points.

00:52:33.000 Grab them by the bonus hole should be new bumper stickers for 2024.

00:52:38.000 Wow.

00:52:39.000 All in.

00:52:40.000 Bonus holes for a bonus term.

00:52:43.000 All right.

00:52:43.000 There you go.

00:52:44.000 Next topic.

00:52:45.000 Next topic.

00:52:47.000 Tom Hanks' niece.

00:52:48.000 Jack, I'll let you drive on this one.

00:52:49.000 Lotta's caught up on this.

00:52:52.000 This one I think Andrew knows more about, to be honest.

00:52:54.000 I haven't watched this video.

00:52:55.000 Andrew is digging, like researching the headline.

00:52:58.000 Don't pass it to me, Andrew.

00:52:59.000 Please, please take this one in great detail.

00:53:03.000 All right.

00:53:03.000 This is the chat.

00:53:08.000 Okay.

00:53:09.000 Ryan, let me know what clips these are.

00:53:11.000 So the backstory here is that there is a show called on ABC that I'd never heard of actually before called Claim to Four.

00:53:11.000 Okay.

00:53:18.000 I wasn't watching it live.

00:53:20.000 I was not.

00:53:23.000 It's called Claim to Fame, and all the contestants are related to famous people, right?

00:53:28.000 So I guess Whoopee Goldberg, I found this out researching for this segment.

00:53:32.000 Whoopi Goldberg's niece was on it before, and apparently she had a meltdown when she got booted.

00:53:37.000 But you basically have to, you get booted off the show if another contestant guesses who you're related to.

00:53:44.000 And Tom Hanks's niece was apparently one of the first people to pick each competitor has like a famous relative.

00:53:54.000 Yes.

00:53:54.000 Is that the idea?

00:53:55.000 Yes.

00:53:56.000 So listen, I'll just throw it to 83.

00:53:56.000 Exactly.

00:53:59.000 I think it's the best primer for this.

00:54:02.000 Let's go to 83.

00:54:04.000 Carly, I am sad to see you go, but it is time for you to say goodbye to your fellow players. 0.77

00:54:10.000 These freaking clothes are so freaking obvious. 0.99

00:54:14.000 Frickin' bench! 0.99

00:54:15.000 That's a freaking poster of freaking Voris Cup. 0.99

00:54:17.000 Are you kidding me? 1.00

00:54:20.000 She's screaming as she screams. 1.00

00:54:22.000 Lion bench! 0.98

00:54:23.000 Lion bench!

00:54:24.000 There's literally no reference to benches on any other movie.

00:54:29.000 Even Gabriel found that out.

00:54:31.000 He's not even like Mark!

00:54:34.000 For real, that's cold.

00:54:38.000 I didn't even get to do any challenges!

00:54:41.000 I don't deserve this!

00:54:43.000 I should have more camera time!

00:54:45.000 I should be here longer.

00:54:49.000 Is that even real?

00:54:51.000 I mean, it sounds like she's playing for the camera.

00:54:55.000 Yeah, I don't actually know.

00:54:58.000 I mean, that was extra.

00:55:00.000 Extra.

00:55:00.000 So maybe you guys are right because the view reacted to this today, which I hate to give them any more airtime, but let's go ahead and play Cut84.

00:55:12.000 I got to tell you, I loved the freak out that she had.

00:55:15.000 It was such a good one.

00:55:16.000 The young lady now.

00:55:17.000 I love both of them.

00:55:18.000 I love Amara's freak out too because she was selling to kiss her button all kinds of stuff.

00:55:21.000 So she was owning it.

00:55:23.000 She was not being dragged. 0.88

00:55:24.000 Yeah, but this girl, it was just such good television.

00:55:28.000 In my opinion, I was not aware.

00:55:31.000 I was joking to my producer that that's basically me when I get pulled out of the good guest segment.

00:55:36.000 I needed more cameras.

00:55:37.000 That's not even my god.

00:55:39.000 She was a legend. 1.00

00:55:40.000 She's going to make that show better. 0.91

00:55:41.000 They need to bring her up. 1.00

00:55:42.000 It's just time to land apart because she had two credits, I think.

00:55:46.000 She's good. 1.00

00:55:47.000 She should host that show. 0.98

00:55:52.000 So this is why we get the culture that we have. 0.99

00:55:57.000 We're rewarding by way of the view this abhorrent behavior by a spoiled rich girl that happens to be related to Tom Hanks, and I find it appalling. 0.95

00:56:07.000 They should put Baron Trump on that show.

00:56:11.000 Everybody would be up to like 6'8, 6'9.

00:56:14.000 He would just dominate them.

00:56:14.000 Just like a big picture.

00:56:16.000 Is that what this is, basically?

00:56:18.000 Do you like win money on this show, or is it literally just like people desperately?

00:56:22.000 I just looked it up.

00:56:23.000 You can win.

00:56:24.000 Yeah, you can win like 100 grand.

00:56:26.000 And the idea is that with various competitions that you go through and you guess certain things about people.

00:56:33.000 Again, I've literally never heard about this until about five minutes ago that you can reveal more information about the person.

00:56:41.000 And so the idea is because we live in such a meta self-referential culture right now that it used to be that you would just go watch a movie or go watch a TV show and you'd like it.

00:56:51.000 You might know the actor.

00:56:52.000 You might recognize them and say, oh, I'm going to go see that actor.

00:56:54.000 I'm going to go see that actress.

00:56:55.000 I like them.

00:56:56.000 But now everything's meta.

00:56:57.000 So everybody's got to know everything about every little other thing.

00:57:00.000 So you can't just be a person.

00:57:01.000 There's you, there's your family, there's your fans, your stands, et cetera, et cetera.

00:57:08.000 And so when you have something like this, they've got like Chuck.

00:57:11.000 I'm just looking through Chuck Norris's grandson, Brett Favre's daughter, Al Sharpton's daughter, Tiffany Haddish's sister, Whoopi Goldberg's granddaughter, Dean Martin's granddaughter, Jason Aladine's cousin, the sister of Keke Palmer was on.

00:57:31.000 You know, Blake actually might qualify for this because people may not realize this, but Blake actually is a distant relation to Louis Farrakhan.

00:57:41.000 Wait, what?

00:57:44.000 I think I'm only related to basically like dirt farmers in Germany or something. 0.69

00:57:49.000 I have like the least distinguished pedigree of all time.

00:57:53.000 Well, I mean, if you're just going to talk about Farrakhan that way, he did lead the nation of Islam.

00:57:57.000 That's fair.

00:57:59.000 Hold on.

00:57:59.000 All right.

00:58:00.000 We're missing the big E on the eye chart. 1.00

00:58:02.000 This lady literally threw a freak out on national TV. 1.00

00:58:06.000 One of the most objectively horrible reactions you could possibly have. 0.99

00:58:10.000 And Alyssa Farah, who worked at the Trump White House, who's a total Judas, nevertheless said this woman's a legend. 0.91

00:58:19.000 And then the other gals chime in, like, she should host the show.

00:58:22.000 What the hell is wrong with our country? 0.98

00:58:25.000 Alyssa Farah, of course, is a daughter herself.

00:58:29.000 But she's the daughter.

00:58:30.000 Alyssa Farah is the daughter of Joseph Farah, who ran World Net Daily.

00:58:34.000 So she already was somebody who got in in an act of nepotism because her father was.

00:58:39.000 Now, I wouldn't say World Net Daily is considered a mainstream source.

00:58:43.000 They usually get tagged with everything they throw at anyone who's grassroots.

00:58:48.000 But she was able to get into politics because of her father.

00:58:53.000 It's obscene.

00:58:54.000 The whole thing's obscene.

00:58:56.000 Charlie, you don't want to.

00:58:57.000 Yeah, but it just goes to show.

00:58:59.000 Well, no, and we won't, God willing.

00:59:02.000 But it just goes to show what is rewarded, right?

00:59:05.000 This is very similar to.

00:59:06.000 We're kind of rewarding it right now, aren't we?

00:59:08.000 We've talked about this person for like six minutes more than we would have ever talked about her if she hadn't had a gigantic meltdown on national television.

00:59:16.000 But not in a good way.

00:59:17.000 Yeah, but we wouldn't be talking about it.

00:59:20.000 There's no such thing as bad publicity if you're like a Z-tier celebrity relative. 0.98

00:59:24.000 Tell that to the Zodiac killer.

00:59:26.000 Or like, yeah, there is some bad publicity.

00:59:27.000 I mean, this, Jack, you bring up an interesting point.

00:59:32.000 Yeah, you can collect him to the Senate if you do that.

00:59:34.000 Disavow.

00:59:36.000 Hold on.

00:59:37.000 Jack, you bring up an interesting point, actually.

00:59:39.000 Because I was actually talking about this today in our chat.

00:59:43.000 Do you know that the Charlie made me watch because Charlie changed our second hour intro music to the Bowls songs, you know?

00:59:52.000 I'm so confident.

00:59:53.000 Niggas are bringing back the 90s. 1.00

00:59:55.000 Yes, the excellent culture of dominance.

00:59:58.000 So I've been watching The Last Dance again.

01:00:01.000 I hadn't watched it since COVID.

01:00:03.000 Isn't it beautiful?

01:00:05.000 I watch it once a year, a tradition, every year.

01:00:08.000 It's amazing.

01:00:10.000 I'm watching it.

01:00:11.000 So I'm into the, I'm in this big Jordan kick. 0.96

01:00:13.000 Did you know that Michael Jordan's son, Marcus Jordan, is dating Scotty Pippen's ex-wife, who also is an OnlyFans girl.

01:00:24.000 And Michael Jordan's apparently totally fine with it.

01:00:28.000 Wait, what's the age gap there?

01:00:30.000 Like 16 years.

01:00:33.000 But in the opposite direction.

01:00:35.000 But do you want it to be him?

01:00:37.000 You want something even weirder?

01:00:38.000 Is that it was likely that Scotty Pippen's wife was in the press box when like little Michael Jordan would walk in and like they knew each other since he was a kid.

01:00:47.000 Somebody should look it up.

01:00:49.000 I don't think they were married during the 90s run.

01:00:52.000 I don't think they were married.

01:00:53.000 I think this is like a he was like he was like eight years old during the 90s run.

01:00:57.000 The point is that she knew him likely as a toddler.

01:00:59.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:01:00.000 That's even weird.

01:01:01.000 That's super weird.

01:01:02.000 I don't think Pippen was married to this woman during the 90s run.

01:01:05.000 Somebody should look it up.

01:01:06.000 But literally, this woman has an OnlyFans page and she's she has blabbed to the press about like Scotty and her sex life and all this stuff.

01:01:17.000 And Jordan is apparently completely fine with it.

01:01:19.000 I'm telling you, it is very difficult to stay normal and grounded when you're a celebrity of any level, right?

01:01:28.000 I mean, and Scotty Pippen and Michael Jordan were larger than life in the 90s and in the 2000s.

01:01:36.000 Yeah, so his wife, wait, which wife is the one that Michael Jordan's, which one is it?

01:01:42.000 Is it Larsa?

01:01:43.000 Yeah, no, Larsa was the, yeah, no, Larsa was married to Scotty during the 90s.

01:01:49.000 Hold on.

01:01:50.000 Yeah, it's Larsa.

01:01:53.000 I refuse to learn more about this on moral principle.

01:01:58.000 Scotty Pippen has become such a bum, and it's so sad for me to say that because I'm like the biggest Bulls fan ever.

01:02:05.000 I think the 90s Bulls, I mean, the last dance, first of all, it is objectively an exceptional cinematic product, right, Brian?

01:02:14.000 It's one of the best things.

01:02:15.000 It's unbelievable.

01:02:16.000 The music, the cinematography, the behind the scenes, the way they tell the story.

01:02:20.000 And I just love it as a Chicago guy because I'm looking back through it and it's so personal to me because how do I best explain this?

01:02:28.000 It's you're raised with this folklore and these stories, and then all of a sudden you see it in a documentary form.

01:02:36.000 Very, very powerful.

01:02:37.000 And it's really special.

01:02:39.000 But no, Scotty Pippen.

01:02:41.000 Sorry, go ahead, Andrew.

01:02:42.000 No, I'm just go ahead, Charlie.

01:02:45.000 I got a note.

01:02:46.000 Scotty never recovered from failing to win a title with the Trailblazers.

01:02:50.000 But here's the thing about Scotty Pippen.

01:02:52.000 That's the thought crime on Scotty Pippen.

01:02:54.000 He's an above-average basketball player.

01:02:56.000 He's not an exceptional one because he was able to be a very good basketball player because Michael Jordan demanded double coverage.

01:03:03.000 He demanded the entire game plan alterations that Scotty Pippen, being a 6'8 small forward, right, was able to then all of a sudden cut, Dash, have one-on-one matchups that were pretty advantageous and favorable to them that they otherwise wouldn't have had.

01:03:18.000 When Scotty Pippen went to the Trailblazers, all of a sudden they're like, yeah, this Scotty Pippen guy's not that good.

01:03:24.000 This Scotty Pippen guy can't really do much when he gets the best defender.

01:03:29.000 I do the East somewhat.

01:03:30.000 No, no.

01:03:31.000 The evidence is this.

01:03:32.000 Pippen was not that great when Jordan went to play baseball.

01:03:35.000 Pippen was not able to.

01:03:37.000 No, he was not able to carry the team.

01:03:39.000 They took the semifinals in the East to the game seven.

01:03:42.000 I just watched the episode yesterday.

01:03:44.000 And they almost got through the Knicks.

01:03:46.000 No, no, not without Mike.

01:03:46.000 Yeah.

01:03:47.000 No, You can fact-check me on this.

01:03:51.000 Michael was on that team.

01:03:54.000 They did not, when Michael went to go play baseball, huh?

01:03:58.000 Yeah, he came back and they wear what?

01:04:02.000 He came back wearing 45.

01:04:03.000 Yeah, he came back playing 45.

01:04:05.000 No, you could fact-check me on this, but when Michael came back, they barely made the playoffs and then last lost in the first round, and then Michael went back to training.

01:04:13.000 But go ahead, disagree, Andrew.

01:04:15.000 I don't know if it was the first round.

01:04:16.000 I thought it was the second round they took the Knicks to game seven, and they lost in game seven.

01:04:20.000 I'm almost positive of that.

01:04:23.000 I know they played the Knicks.

01:04:24.000 Michael was right.

01:04:25.000 So they went 55 and 27, which was good for third in the conference, and then they lost to the Knicks in the semifinals in seven games.

01:04:34.000 That was without Jordan.

01:04:36.000 And then he came back the next year, and they lost in the playoffs that year, too, in his half-season.

01:04:41.000 Yeah.

01:04:42.000 But we'll always have Scotty Pippen in NBA Jam, which was sweet.

01:04:46.000 Yeah, he was like the Michael Jordan of NBA Jam.

01:04:49.000 Yeah.

01:04:51.000 But here's the really offensive part.

01:04:53.000 Okay, so Marcus Jordan is talking about this.

01:04:57.000 Apparently, they have a podcast.

01:04:58.000 He's talking about it.

01:04:59.000 He says, I never, and he gets asked, Do you have a problem with the fact that she has an OnlyFans account?

01:05:05.000 And he goes, I would never want to block your success or well-being.

01:05:13.000 Like, can we talk about how repulsive OnlyFans is?

01:05:17.000 Can we just do like a tangent on that? 0.89

01:05:19.000 It's one of the trashiest new trends out there.

01:05:23.000 Now, I don't know if it's how new it is. 0.87

01:05:24.000 I mean, it's prostitution is the world's oldest profession, but it basically is digital prostitution.

01:05:30.000 Is that fair to say, Jack?

01:05:31.000 Well, I mean, we should really ask Blake.

01:05:33.000 I mean, he's been on OnlyFans for a couple of years now, right?

01:05:36.000 Hey, hey, hey, hey.

01:05:39.000 No, we should follow.

01:05:41.000 You've been very successful, and I wouldn't stand in the way of your success, Blake.

01:05:45.000 You know, we should just handle OnlyFans the way we should handle a lot of this. 0.93

01:05:48.000 We should just arrest the proprietors of it and give them the death penalty. 0.95

01:05:52.000 That would solve a lot of things. 0.99

01:05:57.000 Amazing. 0.83

01:05:58.000 The straight, straight death penalty.

01:05:59.000 That's a different kind of hole, isn't it?

01:06:01.000 We should conserve it.

01:06:02.000 You know, we've talked about bonus holes.

01:06:04.000 I just feel society would be improved if we radically expanded the number of people having bonus holes added to them by a firing squad.

01:06:12.000 And that would include the OnlyFans proprietors.

01:06:14.000 It would include the guys at MindGeek who run like every porn site.

01:06:18.000 And, you know, it would probably run.

01:06:19.000 It would probably include a large share of various Antifa criminal elements who burned down police stations.

01:06:27.000 And then things would be better in America.

01:06:29.000 But we can't always get what we want.

01:06:32.000 One day, Blake.

01:06:33.000 So what you're saying is that you signed up there to infiltrate and then go undercover to basically find the proprietors to begin with.

01:06:43.000 You know, we can't give the details on all of our secret missions, Jack, you know, even with our valued audience here on Rumble.

01:06:51.000 We have to maintain up there.

01:06:52.000 But the thing is, wasn't OnlyHands trying to like, weren't they trying to rebrand like a year or two ago?

01:06:58.000 Because I think originally, even early in OnlyFans, they would brand a feed.

01:07:05.000 They would try to make it like be, oh, you know, musicians can use it to interact with their fans, OnlyFans, or, you know, other celebrities.

01:07:13.000 And then it was just, it was kind of everyone immediately realized, wait, this is just, this is clearly for porn.

01:07:18.000 And obviously, that's what succeeded with it.

01:07:21.000 And, you know, here we are today.

01:07:25.000 It's pretty sad because we live in a culture now where we, just to go back to those comments from Pippin, right?

01:07:32.000 We live in a culture where we say that's empowering, right?

01:07:34.000 That's empowering to women to be an OnlyFans. 1.00

01:07:37.000 What happens when your kids find out that you had an OnlyFans? 1.00

01:07:40.000 What happens when your grandkids find out you had an OnlyFans, right? 0.56

01:07:45.000 That stuff's going to be out there forever.

01:07:47.000 And guess what?

01:07:48.000 Those kids never had an opportunity to say, mommy, don't do that, or I don't want mommy to be doing something like that.

01:07:55.000 And obviously, men are certainly just as bad as going into it.

01:08:00.000 But we live in a culture now where we say that's empowering, but we don't say getting married and having a family is empowering.

01:08:07.000 And it's completely upside down.

01:08:09.000 Well, by the way, Jack, did you see that the new stat from Pew was that a record 25% of 40-year-old Americans have not gotten married?

01:08:19.000 Record 40%.

01:08:21.000 Like in 1980, that number was 6%.

01:08:24.000 It's 25% of 40-year-olds, I believe.

01:08:27.000 That's what I said.

01:08:28.000 If I did, I said it a different way.

01:08:30.000 Yeah, I apologize.

01:08:31.000 Yeah, 25% of 40-year-old Americans, one in four 40-year-olds, have never been married.

01:08:36.000 And that number was 6% in 1980.

01:08:39.000 Right. 0.99

01:08:39.000 And that's because millennials are now hitting 40. 0.99

01:08:42.000 Married millennials. 0.97

01:08:44.000 And they're married to OnlyFans. 1.00

01:08:46.000 They're simps, pay pigs, whatever you want to call them. 1.00

01:08:50.000 More terminology. 0.64

01:08:52.000 And FinDom, FinDom relationships.

01:08:55.000 And basically, you got this situation where it's also something where, and Charlie, I think you can appreciate this because when pornography became more accessible to men, if you notice, society itself became much slower, much less actual progress was able to be had.

01:09:18.000 Innovation became harder.

01:09:20.000 And why?

01:09:21.000 Because, well, men were always pushing those things because they were in search of that.

01:09:26.000 Well, in search, in search, or they might not have had that.

01:09:30.000 There's a really powerful chapter in one of the most popular books ever written on success by Napoleon Hill.

01:09:35.000 It's called Think and Grow Rich.

01:09:37.000 And there's an entire chapter, and it's provocatively received.

01:09:41.000 It's provocatively written and not really well received by a lot of people, but I think it's totally true. 0.54

01:09:45.000 And it's all about the sex energy in the male.

01:09:47.000 And that if you want to build a business, you can understand how much life force there is in the sex energy of males.

01:09:53.000 And I think everyone who's a man totally understands this, right?

01:09:56.000 But if you remove that completely from a society, you're going to get less innovation, less entrepreneurship, less business startups.

01:10:03.000 And you're also going to get terrible outcomes when it comes to drug usage and to opioid addiction.

01:10:11.000 And your society starts to completely and totally collapse.

01:10:14.000 Yeah, there's a whole chapter called, I think, sexual transmutation in Napoleon Hill's book, Think and Grow Rich on that.

01:10:22.000 Hey, I got a chat I think that's really interesting actually from Ugabooga. 0.99

01:10:28.000 If I can find it again, Ugabuga says, Yes, porn has something to do with it, but 40 plus years of male hating feminism creeping into TV ads showing men as idiots has a lot to do with it. 0.97

01:10:40.000 And that actually resonates, right? 0.98

01:10:42.000 Because, Charlie, you always bring it up at like events.

01:10:46.000 You'll be like, at the Young Women's Leadership Summit in Dallas, you said, How many of you are struggling to find women that are men that are worth dating?

01:10:53.000 And it was like half the room went up.

01:10:56.000 That's right.

01:10:57.000 And I think this has a lot to do with it.

01:10:59.000 And every time, yeah, it's like the male hating in TV ads.

01:11:02.000 Like anytime a white male is in an ad, they're like mentally enfeebled and incapable of doing literally anything at any time.

01:11:10.000 This happens in the new Indiana Jones, too.

01:11:13.000 So, not going to drop all in total spoilers, but he gets totally emasculated by this woman who's like the new, you know, it's not his daughter, it's like his friend's daughter, but it's basically his daughter in the film.

01:11:26.000 And here's Indiana Jones, and there are, I guess, some scenes where they go back in time and they use the de-aging CGI on him, but it's the same situation.

01:11:34.000 That new Hollywood will not allow any of the old characters that people liked, that people watched as heroes, just regular heroes in the 1980s, to not be emasculated or make them go woke.

01:11:48.000 They'll bring them forward.

01:11:49.000 This is what we call Yellowstoning as well.

01:11:52.000 It's the same idea that you must depict any act of masculinity as being wrong, as being negative.

01:12:00.000 And then, on the flip side, they'll also say that the only type of masculinity that you can actually have out there is like the barstool sports.

01:12:09.000 Oh, I'm going to drink.

01:12:10.000 I'm going to eat bacon.

01:12:11.000 I'm going to grill.

01:12:13.000 And that's it.

01:12:14.000 Male to male transsexualism. 0.81

01:12:17.000 That's my favorite slang term for it.

01:12:19.000 It's like male-to-male transsexual. 1.00

01:12:20.000 Like, we want to be a real man, just all bacon, and we have an assault rifle. 0.99

01:12:26.000 And here's a hot woman.

01:12:27.000 Like, it's a black rifle coffee ad.

01:12:35.000 We are a blackout coffee show, just for the record.

01:12:39.000 Hey, Charlie, speaking of which, tell us about Public Square.

01:12:43.000 Yeah, no, they're doing really well, by the way.

01:12:45.000 I don't want to spoil anything, but they're going to have some really big news coming up soon.

01:12:49.000 So keep your eyes peeled on Public Square.

01:12:52.000 PBSQ are four letters you're going to familiarize yourself with.

01:12:55.000 Public Square is amazing.

01:12:56.000 Public Square is your compass, your navigational tool for the parallel economy.

01:13:02.000 I visit my Public Square app when I'm traveling, which I've been traveling this entire week, and I make a point to find out what businesses in the local areas I visit are in alignment with our values.

01:13:12.000 You know, we complain, rightfully so, to about the woke nonsense that has really infiltrated the American economy, but there are so many alternatives out there.

01:13:23.000 And Public Square has been able to help us find better options, better vendors, and also you can join as a business owner.

01:13:32.000 Jack, your thoughts on Public Square?

01:13:35.000 Oh, I think Public Square is fantastic.

01:13:36.000 And honestly, I think that I know the news that is about to come out.

01:13:41.000 Michael Seifert, of course, was on Timcast last night.

01:13:45.000 And so he was talking about this.

01:13:46.000 But there's something really big that's about to come out.

01:13:50.000 Look, when it comes down to it, when I go to my wife, right, and she says, you know, look, I love you guys.

01:13:57.000 I'm in the fight, but I also got two little kids.

01:13:57.000 I'm in the movement.

01:14:00.000 I'm running around like crazy.

01:14:01.000 I don't know which company is good, which one's bad anymore.

01:14:05.000 It's hard to keep track of every little thing.

01:14:07.000 Obviously, but like Target people remember.

01:14:09.000 But what's great that she always told me about Public Square was that it's just one place you can sign right in, super easy to use.

01:14:16.000 It's just like Instagram and any other app you would use.

01:14:18.000 And then boom, you can go in and find.

01:14:20.000 Plus, there's deals on it too.

01:14:21.000 There's deals, there's specials, there's discounts, et cetera.

01:14:23.000 It's really good.

01:14:24.000 Plus, I just want to give him a shout out.

01:14:27.000 When we were starting this show, it was like, boom, called Public Square.

01:14:31.000 Hey, will you support what we're doing on the show?

01:14:33.000 And Public Square was right there for us.

01:14:35.000 So hat tip to the guys at Public Square.

01:14:37.000 So everybody, take out your phone and download the Public Square app.

01:14:41.000 That is the call to action.

01:14:42.000 It's free of charge.

01:14:43.000 And they are the exclusive partners of Thought Crimes.

01:14:47.000 And God bless them for wanting to sponsor this show.

01:14:51.000 I don't think.

01:14:52.000 Yeah, go ahead, Jack.

01:14:54.000 No, well, so I'm looking at the chat here, and I think I'm losing the chat because they're saying, whoa, what are you saying, Jack?

01:15:00.000 Bacon is good.

01:15:01.000 I love my bacon-eating, gun-toting hubby.

01:15:04.000 Guns are good too.

01:15:05.000 Look, guys, no, please don't get it twisted.

01:15:09.000 Obviously, bacon is good.

01:15:10.000 I love bacon.

01:15:11.000 I love my guns.

01:15:13.000 I love all of these things.

01:15:14.000 But what I'm saying is, Hollywood and the media are telling you that the only type of masculinity that is acceptable is masculinity as effaced and communicated through these various activities, you know, going in the man cave and drinking a bunch of beer.

01:15:32.000 Whereas actual masculinity could mean staying with your family, not leaving your wife, not sitting and watching porn every night, not sitting and staring at your TV all day long, actually being there for people, leading your family.

01:15:47.000 There's so many types of masculinity that do exist that are completely outside of the commodified barstool sports, just do whatever you feel like, bro, kind of masculinity.

01:15:58.000 That's what I'm talking about.

01:15:59.000 I'm not saying that any one of those individual things are wrong.

01:16:02.000 And in fact, I've partaken many of them.

01:16:05.000 Okay, now she's saying she was agreeing with me.

01:16:07.000 Now she's saying she was agreeing with me.

01:16:08.000 So we're good.

01:16:08.000 We're good.

01:16:09.000 I actually, I will disagree.

01:16:11.000 I love the taste of bacon.

01:16:13.000 I do not like the idea of eating pork.

01:16:16.000 I think that the Hebrews are onto something. 1.00

01:16:18.000 I think it's an unclean animal. 0.98

01:16:19.000 I think it's dirty. 0.98

01:16:21.000 And I'll say this: the only animal that Jesus had to kick out demonic spirits from, or to, were to the pigs. 0.97

01:16:31.000 The Legion. 0.94

01:16:32.000 I mean, the herd of Legion.

01:16:34.000 There is no unclean food.

01:16:36.000 That's a New Testament thing.

01:16:37.000 Hey, check this out.

01:16:37.000 All right.

01:16:39.000 We are getting, hey, do we want to go there?

01:16:41.000 I mean, this is Thock Prime.

01:16:42.000 People are asking about kosher laws.

01:16:44.000 I just finished Leviticus 11.

01:16:46.000 People are asking about black rifled coffee.

01:16:48.000 They're like, yeah, Kim, Black Rifled Coffee threw Rittenhouse under the bus. 0.78

01:16:52.000 And yeah, I heard Black Rifled Coffee equals fake conservatives.

01:16:56.000 I don't want to take any stances on it.

01:16:57.000 No, I haven't taken any.

01:16:59.000 I've been on a text chain with, I think, Evan, who runs the company.

01:17:01.000 I'm told he's great.

01:17:02.000 And we've been trying to do something together, and he hasn't jumped on it.

01:17:05.000 So let's not do anything negative.

01:17:08.000 But I don't know why they're so hesitant to want to partner with us.

01:17:11.000 I think they did do a meetup with Kyle Rittenhouse recently.

01:17:14.000 Or, I mean, and just to be fair, I do think they did something with Kyle recently.

01:17:19.000 So balls in their court, but we get a lot of nasty messages about them.

01:17:25.000 So you know who was there for Kyle Rittenhouse who did throw down when everybody was going after him that was there and put the money in.

01:17:35.000 And his birthday was yesterday.

01:17:37.000 It was the Maven of Minnesota himself, everyone's favorite patriot, Mr. Mike Lindell.

01:17:45.000 That's right.

01:17:46.000 Hey, you know who else was there for him?

01:17:48.000 You know who else was there for Kyle Rittenhouse?

01:17:50.000 Charlie Kirk, Turning Point USA.

01:17:52.000 You were there all the time.

01:17:53.000 We had Kyle on the main stage at Ampest.

01:17:57.000 We had Kyle on the main stage at Ampfest right after his acquittal, and it was epic.

01:18:02.000 Jack, you were there.

01:18:03.000 You remember.

01:18:04.000 I was on the stage.

01:18:06.000 I'll put it this way.

01:18:07.000 It was the only time in any event I've ever been at, of all these events, and I've been to a million Trump events, et cetera, where I actually got that sense of like the Beatles on Ed Sullivan in the 1960s, where the girls were screaming so much that I'm sitting.

01:18:26.000 It was what?

01:18:26.000 It was me, then Kyle, then Charlie's on the other side.

01:18:29.000 I couldn't hear Charlie.

01:18:30.000 I couldn't hear Kyle.

01:18:32.000 I couldn't hear anything up there. 0.98

01:18:33.000 The girls were screaming so loud. 0.79

01:18:35.000 It was an epic moment.

01:18:36.000 It was an epic moment.

01:18:37.000 It really was.

01:18:38.000 It was an Elvis-type moment.

01:18:39.000 I want to remind everybody in the audience to please get your tickets to our turning point action conference, tpaction.com.

01:18:45.000 Hi, IQ Blake will be there doing cameos, selfies, and taking dating resumes.

01:18:50.000 So you guys could check it out, tpaction.com.

01:18:52.000 Oh, yeah.

01:18:52.000 I'm so glad you cut to him.

01:18:54.000 You just keep it right there as I keep talking about it.

01:18:56.000 Keep it on Blake.

01:18:58.000 Yeah, do you have to?

01:18:59.000 So Hi, IQ Blake will be there.

01:19:01.000 And we have Donald Trump, Tucker Carlson, Megan Kelly, Steve Bannon, Dan Bongino, Jack Posobiec, Benny Johnson.

01:19:07.000 We have the mayor of Miami, Francis Suarez, who's our third presidential candidate, who will be there.

01:19:13.000 We have an invite to every presidential candidate.

01:19:14.000 So, Jack, let's do the Caesars Palace.

01:19:16.000 Can we have the Vegas music?

01:19:18.000 What music would, I guess the Presley music would be good as a segue.

01:19:23.000 Jack, over under odds, you are running Caesars Palace.

01:19:27.000 Do you think we're going to get more or less or even five presidential candidates at ACTCON?

01:19:33.000 I think you get more.

01:19:34.000 I think you definitely get more.

01:19:35.000 I mean, look, Charlie, everybody and their mother is running for president these days.

01:19:40.000 People are announcing every five minutes.

01:19:42.000 I'd love to see Chris Christie there.

01:19:43.000 I'd love to see Ron DeSantis there.

01:19:46.000 You know who'd be great, by the way, who'd be great, I think, would be more welcomed than people would expect is RFK Jr.

01:19:53.000 Why wouldn't RFK Jr. there?

01:19:54.000 But inviting time.

01:19:57.000 Did he just pull out of the Moms for Liberty conference?

01:19:59.000 Did I see that?

01:20:00.000 I don't know.

01:20:01.000 He was going to do it, and he's not going now.

01:20:03.000 I have a lot of respect for him.

01:20:04.000 I think he's really great on some of the corporate stuff.

01:20:06.000 Blake has strong opinions against him.

01:20:08.000 That's fine.

01:20:08.000 And we have to remember he's a Democrat.

01:20:10.000 But no, we did invite him.

01:20:10.000 The counterbalance is good.

01:20:12.000 We did.

01:20:12.000 And I don't think he's going to be able to make it.

01:20:16.000 All right.

01:20:17.000 But last night was fantastic.

01:20:19.000 It was good.

01:20:20.000 We have to engage with the chat here. 0.93

01:20:22.000 We have someone claiming that they used to have a tryst with Jen Saki after track practice.

01:20:30.000 In high school.

01:20:31.000 In high school.

01:20:32.000 She had a boyfriend.

01:20:34.000 He seems like a track girl. 0.93

01:20:36.000 She had a boyfriend.

01:20:37.000 I had a girlfriend.

01:20:38.000 So we would grudge sex during practice. 0.95

01:20:41.000 Okay. 0.93

01:20:43.000 Unprovable.

01:20:44.000 Unsubstantiated.

01:20:46.000 Without evidence.

01:20:47.000 A lot of people are saying.

01:20:49.000 A lot of people are saying.

01:20:51.000 So TPAction.com.

01:20:54.000 We also have Senator Rick Scott confirmed.

01:20:56.000 Senator Ted Cruz confirmed.

01:20:58.000 It's going to be amazing.

01:20:59.000 In fact, we're going to be doing Thought Crimes live from Florida in two weeks.

01:21:06.000 That's going to be a fun show, isn't it, Jack?

01:21:08.000 We're going to be able to do it in person in Florida.

01:21:10.000 I think that's going to be a fantastic show.

01:21:12.000 Plus, there's some other live shows that I think we're talking about.

01:21:16.000 So if this one goes well, this will be the first one, and it'll probably be a complete mess because we're going to be throwing stuff like this out like crazy.

01:21:23.000 I want to do a live Q ⁇ A. 1.00

01:21:25.000 The same way we're reading the comments right now, I'd love to do a live Q ⁇ A on thought crimes and just put everybody on the spot.

01:21:32.000 Literally, ask us anything.

01:21:34.000 Just ask us anything if you come up to that specific session.

01:21:38.000 I don't even want there to be any actual topic or set agenda, anything like that.

01:21:43.000 Just come out.

01:21:44.000 But if that one goes well, I think that with everything that's going on in the country, I think that I think we might have to do more lives.

01:21:52.000 I think we might enliven in person.

01:21:54.000 Thought crimes live presidential forum.

01:21:57.000 Hey, there's going to be some interesting things we're going at.

01:22:01.000 I saw President Trump last night.

01:22:02.000 Jack, I know you've seen him recently.

01:22:04.000 He's got great spirit, vitality.

01:22:04.000 He looked great.

01:22:07.000 He's in this thing to win.

01:22:08.000 And to his great credit, he's coming to our event.

01:22:11.000 And we'll see if any other candidates decide to show up.

01:22:14.000 Andrew, your closing thoughts as we wrap this up.

01:22:17.000 Wait, hold on.

01:22:18.000 We have the deep web reveal.

01:22:20.000 Now, for those, the uninitiated, the deep web reveal, the deep web reveal is the time of the show where you have to be a total nerd to have picked this up online.

01:22:32.000 And hopefully we do our research.

01:22:34.000 Now, this one is not so deep that you have to be a total nerd.

01:22:39.000 I think it's fair enough to say you don't have to be a total nerd to pick this up.

01:22:42.000 It's the deep web reveal.

01:22:45.000 It started as a deep web reveal, like a 4chan thing, but it's kind of, it's blossoming.

01:22:50.000 So, Blake, why don't you take the deep web reveal?

01:22:53.000 All right.

01:22:54.000 Our deep web reveal for this week is the shopping cart test.

01:22:59.000 And I believe it literally did start on 4chan around 2020.

01:23:03.000 It might be older than that.

01:23:04.000 But the idea is that you basically can kind of have a yes or no test on whether someone is a salvageable member of society, of our human civilization, based on how they handle shopping carts.

01:23:17.000 And the idea is go to a grocery store, you have these shopping carts, and you use the shopping cart, you fill it up, you buy your stuff, you take it to your car, and then there is a simple test.

01:23:29.000 Do you return the shopping cart to the little thing of mabab that you put them in?

01:23:35.000 Because it's super easy to do.

01:23:37.000 It takes, you know, 20 seconds to do it.

01:23:40.000 No one's going to make you do it.

01:23:42.000 We're not going to fine you if you don't do it.

01:23:45.000 Nothing really bad will happen to you if you don't.

01:23:49.000 But basically, it's a pro-social thing to do.

01:23:51.000 If you do it, you're not just leaving a grocery cart occupying a parking spot or clogging up the lot or whatever.

01:23:59.000 So the question is, do you return it?

01:24:01.000 And this is like a yes or no question on whether you are a good or bad member of society, as the original meme put it.

01:24:08.000 And this has blown up on Twitter in the last couple of weeks for some reason, as these things do.

01:24:13.000 So is this a correct measure of civilization?

01:24:17.000 I was going to say, the writing of the original 4chan is so good.

01:24:22.000 It says, you must return the shopping cart out of the goodness of your own heart.

01:24:29.000 No one will punish you for not returning the shopping cart.

01:24:31.000 No one will fine you or kill you for not returning the shopping cart.

01:24:34.000 You gain nothing by returning the shopping cart.

01:24:37.000 Yet you must return the shopping cart because it is the right thing to do, because it is correct.

01:24:43.000 A person who is unable to do this is no better than an animal, an absolute savage who can only be made to do what is right by threatening them with a law and the force that stands behind it.

01:24:56.000 All right.

01:24:57.000 So we actually have, I don't actually know this guy's name, but I've seen his videos from Barstool.

01:25:02.000 We have this clip.

01:25:03.000 Why don't we go ahead and we'll throw it up and then we can react to it.

01:25:09.000 Returning your shopping cart tests is way overblown.

01:25:13.000 I think that's crazy.

01:25:14.000 The people that think that that determines whether you're a good person or not, I think it's like, yes, it determines whether or not you like, I think it determines if you go the extra mile for other people.

01:25:23.000 I don't think it determines like anything.

01:25:25.000 You know, I won't date somebody.

01:25:27.000 I won't talk to someone.

01:25:28.000 That is so overblown.

01:25:30.000 But that's that doesn't bother me one bit.

01:25:35.000 I don't think that's like, I mean, I wouldn't actually.

01:25:39.000 When I see the guy like collecting them and it's like, he grabs them from the thing and then he grabs one over there.

01:25:44.000 I'm like, I don't even think he cares.

01:25:46.000 I don't even think the guy who you think you're affecting cares, let alone random people.

01:25:50.000 The barstool man must be given many bonus holes.

01:25:54.000 Bar drool spurts. 0.99

01:25:56.000 The bar drool spurts.

01:25:57.000 Yeah, by the way, barstool became super cucky recently, right?

01:26:00.000 Didn't they do something that was really bad?

01:26:03.000 They let go of that really funny fat guy, right, Brian?

01:26:06.000 Because he said the N-word or something?

01:26:08.000 Yeah.

01:26:09.000 I like that guy. 0.99

01:26:10.000 It's so ridiculous. 0.98

01:26:11.000 So it's like, it's like one of those song lyric situations. 0.97

01:26:14.000 Even the pizza man didn't like that.

01:26:15.000 What's his name again?

01:26:17.000 Oh, Portnoy. 0.97

01:26:18.000 He didn't even like that the fat guy got fired. 0.96

01:26:18.000 Yeah. 0.96

01:26:21.000 So, yeah.

01:26:22.000 Yeah.

01:26:23.000 Barstool in a lot of ways.

01:26:25.000 So, and Jack actually knows this better than I do, but Barstool has come to represent like the guys that like you think are on your team.

01:26:31.000 Like you think we're all in this together.

01:26:33.000 And then Barstool, like the minute the going gets tough, barstool guys, barstool bros, barstool conservatives, they just like completely cuck out.

01:26:42.000 So it's like on the one hand, do we have stuff in common with them?

01:26:46.000 Can we get on board with certain takes?

01:26:47.000 Whatever.

01:26:48.000 At the end of the day, they're all social progressive.

01:26:50.000 At the end of the day, that's just the way it is.

01:26:52.000 And they will cuck out on you again.

01:26:54.000 Yeah, they're trying to push the whole Like fiscal conservative, social liberal kind of space where they'll come in.

01:27:03.000 And I think a lot of people during the COVID lockdowns started to give them a view and they were going on Fox News all the time and were raising money for small businesses, which, you know, obviously we all support and we thought that was great.

01:27:17.000 But then they bring people in through this and then through sports, et cetera.

01:27:21.000 And they say, hey, this is dude culture.

01:27:23.000 This is bro culture.

01:27:24.000 But then suddenly they'll sit there and go, hey, you know, I have a problem with abortion.

01:27:28.000 Why you guys, why you guys got a problem with abortion?

01:27:30.000 What are you anti-women now?

01:27:32.000 And then, you know, it's the same exact type of mindset that'll put you in a place where you're saying, ah, what do you guys get a problem with the drag queens?

01:27:39.000 Well, you think you think there's a problem with the drag queens?

01:27:41.000 Well, you think the drag queens are a threat to you? 0.95

01:27:44.000 What are the drag queens aren't a threat to you? 1.00

01:27:46.000 And they will. 0.98

01:27:47.000 How many of these guys?

01:27:48.000 I looked at the drag queen. 1.00

01:27:49.000 She was kind of hot. 1.00

01:27:52.000 Yeah, I know that's such a people that make those takes, they should be out of public discourse. 0.99

01:27:56.000 No, but how many of these people actually have families that take that say this stuff?

01:28:00.000 I mean, very few.

01:28:02.000 I don't think they seem like the kind of guys who make comedy videos about their vasectomy.

01:28:07.000 Yeah, I mean, it's just, yeah.

01:28:11.000 I've no, I mean, apparently they've gone the woke way.

01:28:13.000 Dave Portnoy went out and he's like, oh, you fired a fat guy and, you know, it's going to be the end of the company.

01:28:18.000 And yeah, well, there you go.

01:28:20.000 Because they're owned by a casino.

01:28:26.000 Right?

01:28:27.000 That's right.

01:28:28.000 That's right.

01:28:28.000 So, what the problem with Barstool is they got bought out for like $600 million, which is good for them.

01:28:33.000 You know, hats off.

01:28:35.000 But now they got to comply with all of this ESG stuff.

01:28:38.000 They got to comply with the corporate governance.

01:28:41.000 So, you know, at the end of the day, their hands are tied.

01:28:43.000 There's only so far they can go.

01:28:44.000 Yeah, they can make some like kind of broy comments about pizza and about, you know, joke videos about women, whatever.

01:28:53.000 But at the end of the day, they're never going to be by your side when they go and get stuff.

01:28:56.000 And I think that's the bottom line.

01:28:58.000 I mean, and so I'm going to take that guy's comment and I'm just going to put it over here in my mental box and say, you know what?

01:29:05.000 You're probably just like, you're corporate approved.

01:29:08.000 You're like kind of funny and edgy to a line, but you know where the line is and you're never going to cross it.

01:29:13.000 All right.

01:29:14.000 Well, you know, you're no use to me then.

01:29:16.000 That's how I look at it.

01:29:17.000 I know.

01:29:18.000 I just think I also don't need, and this is just me.

01:29:21.000 Maybe you guys disagree.

01:29:23.000 There was a period of time in my life where I enjoyed sports commentary.

01:29:27.000 I have no desire to consume that content anymore.

01:29:30.000 I mean, I will watch college football and maybe a little NFL, but are you guys in a stage of your life where you actually enjoy people talking about sports as if it's really that complex?

01:29:40.000 And it needs to feel like I lost it.

01:29:42.000 I feel like I lost it too, Charlie.

01:29:44.000 When ESPN went whoa, I agree.

01:29:46.000 I used to love the Scott Van Pelt and Stuart Scott and, you know, all this, the kind of the making sports really fun and different edits and making fun of bad things.

01:29:56.000 You know, I thought that was really an exciting development in sports as someone who loves the actual magic of sports and competition and the pursuit of excellence.

01:30:06.000 Now I just, I turn on ESPN and it's like MSNBC with a basketball. 0.60

01:30:12.000 And like every other host is either lesbian or black. 0.96

01:30:15.000 And it's like, okay, great. 0.98

01:30:17.000 Okay, fine.

01:30:18.000 You weren't a fan of the Jamil Hill power hour?

01:30:21.000 No, it's it, it's, I find, I don't know.

01:30:25.000 I personally, Charlie, do you find people talking about sports to no longer be interesting to me?

01:30:30.000 Maybe it's just because I've gotten older and it used to be a thing in high school, but I don't know.

01:30:33.000 Maybe you guys disagree.

01:30:35.000 Do you remember when they fired Rush for what he said about Donovan McNabb?

01:30:39.000 Did they fire Rush?

01:30:41.000 They did.

01:30:41.000 He was on.

01:30:42.000 I don't remember if it was ESPN or a different network, but he said that.

01:30:47.000 What did he say?

01:30:48.000 He said that they were pushing Donovan McNabb as an NFL star because I would do a Rush impression, but I can't do it.

01:30:55.000 But he said he wanted to, the media wanted to see a black quarterback succeed, is what he claimed.

01:31:00.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:31:01.000 And his point was that there was a lot of hype behind Donovan McNabb.

01:31:05.000 And I say this as a lifelong Eagles fan, and I remember the entire Andy Reid, Don McNabb era, that Rush was right about that.

01:31:13.000 Donovan McNabb was a good quarterback, but he was never a great quarterback, and he was never a champion quarterback.

01:31:20.000 And Rush's entire point was that all the hype that the media was giving him was because they wanted him to be this sort of like, because at the time, and now it's not even necessarily the case, but at the time, it was like there was this idea that there was some sort of like, you know, glass ceiling for black quarterbacks and that, you know, there were no champion black quarterbacks that were going on.

01:31:43.000 And so they were giving this huge push to Donovan McNabb.

01:31:46.000 And so Rush was simply explaining and analyzing the situation.

01:31:51.000 He wasn't commenting on Donovan McNabb necessarily other than to say that his football game wasn't that great, which is true.

01:31:58.000 It is a little weird.

01:31:59.000 So they were like, let's put Rush Limbaugh on sports analysis.

01:32:03.000 No, but Rush tried to buy an NFL team.

01:32:05.000 Like, Rush was in the.

01:32:07.000 He was in the mix.

01:32:09.000 He loved.

01:32:10.000 I mean, I didn't want to.

01:32:12.000 We did.

01:32:12.000 Yeah, no, they blocked.

01:32:14.000 We missed out on the Frank Caliendo Rush impression from him being an NFL owner.

01:32:19.000 So that was too bad.

01:32:20.000 No, it would be really fun.

01:32:22.000 It would have been fun to have him at all the owner meetings.

01:32:24.000 I can do game day, college game day, which I think is one of the great pregame shows.

01:32:31.000 I think that's really fun when they do that from a college, and I miss it.

01:32:34.000 I have like a countdown to the first college football game.

01:32:36.000 I can do a little bit, a little bit of the NBC Sunday night football, football night in America, like a little bit.

01:32:44.000 And that's about it.

01:32:45.000 I mean, I just, they start these NFL pregame shows like four hours, and they're like, and now our exclusive interview with the right tackle of the Green Bay Packers.

01:32:55.000 And I'm like, okay.

01:32:58.000 And next hour, we have the exclusive interview, the backup punter for the Jacksville Jaguars.

01:33:05.000 How are they preparing for this week?

01:33:07.000 You're going to disagree with this, but I think the best sports coverage on planet Earth is, and these are kind of different spectrums of the sports universe, is UFC and golf.

01:33:18.000 I'm sorry, but like the UFC backstories, they hype me up like on Saturday nights.

01:33:24.000 I'm ready for the next UFC fight because they do such a good job producing like the conflict.

01:33:29.000 And I know some of it's put on, but it's so great.

01:33:32.000 What's that?

01:33:34.000 It's great.

01:33:34.000 No, I think UFC is great.

01:33:36.000 Just agree with me.

01:33:36.000 UFC is amazing.

01:33:37.000 It's an amazing product.

01:33:39.000 I went to a UFC fight once.

01:33:40.000 It was unbelievably entertaining.

01:33:42.000 It's legitimately great.

01:33:43.000 Golf is a total waste of time.

01:33:45.000 No, golf is fantastic if you play the sport, though.

01:33:49.000 But I know you and Tucker agree it's a total waste of time.

01:33:51.000 And I kind of agree that it is a waste of time.

01:33:53.000 Okay.

01:33:54.000 You just agree.

01:33:55.000 But I like it.

01:33:57.000 Why can't they be hype men in golf?

01:33:59.000 Like, why does it have to be all soporific?

01:34:01.000 And they're like, here's what I will say about me.

01:34:04.000 He's got a culture, man.

01:34:06.000 It's a culture.

01:34:07.000 I will say this about golf that I think is really admirable.

01:34:10.000 The mental part of golf is very significant of what these guys have to overcome.

01:34:17.000 I think it's legit.

01:34:21.000 UFC is pretty high, too. 0.95

01:34:23.000 Like, you get punched in the face.

01:34:25.000 But if you said, Charlie, you could watch the Masters or you could watch Division III football of two winless teams, I would say, where's the Division III?

01:34:36.000 I mean, the Masters?

01:34:37.000 Oh, great.

01:34:39.000 Now, what about the Masters versus the WNBA?

01:34:46.000 Oh, come on, Charlie. 1.00

01:34:48.000 The WNBA is a joke. 0.99

01:34:49.000 Okay, Doc. 1.00

01:34:51.000 The WNBA.

01:34:53.000 So you won't say it probably the masters.

01:34:56.000 I'd probably say the masters.

01:34:57.000 Thank you.

01:34:58.000 I had to think about it.

01:34:59.000 I'd have to think about it doing layouts for two hours for an hour.

01:35:03.000 I'm embarrassed.

01:35:05.000 Hey, by the way, KC15 wants us to plug Sound of Freedom.

01:35:09.000 We had an interview on our show about Sound of Freedom, so we're going to do it.

01:35:12.000 Sound of Freedom.

01:35:13.000 Go see it, July 4th.

01:35:14.000 Go ahead, Charlie.

01:35:14.000 Jack.

01:35:16.000 We're running out of time here, guys, but close it up.

01:35:16.000 No, it's fine.

01:35:20.000 No, I was going to say that obviously go see Sound of Freedom, but I was going to say, what if we were able to come up with some sort of forum?

01:35:27.000 Maybe it's a channel.

01:35:28.000 Maybe Rumble could do it where it's just women's teams versus men's teams the whole time. 0.80

01:35:37.000 How about let's make a TV show where it's all-star women's teams versus all-star middle schooler teams in various sports. 0.95

01:35:47.000 Right.

01:35:47.000 And then we try to find what the right, you know, what the right ratio is, basically.

01:35:52.000 How low can we go? 0.99

01:35:53.000 Women's team of all-stars.

01:35:55.000 How far down? 0.84

01:35:56.000 How about fourth graders?

01:35:58.000 Ooh.

01:35:59.000 All right.

01:36:02.000 Well, look, you know, we are wrapping up.

01:36:04.000 Mel Gibson, by the way, threw down this morning.

01:36:07.000 You guys saw that, right, on Sound of Freedom?

01:36:09.000 No, it was great.

01:36:10.000 Mel Gibson, Mel Gibson is not just a blue chip.

01:36:13.000 He's a AAA blue chip talent.

01:36:14.000 I don't think people realize from Mad Max to Patriot to Braveheart to producing Apocalypto to producing Hackshaw Ridge.

01:36:21.000 I mean, the guy is blue chip-a. 0.97

01:36:24.000 And I'll say this, Jack, you guys deserve a lot of credit, you pesky Catholics. 1.00

01:36:29.000 You guys have a couple sleeper cells in Hollywood that might just save us.

01:36:32.000 Mark Wahlberg and Mel Gibson are proving to be some pretty legit dudes.

01:36:39.000 They really are.

01:36:41.000 Who produced the film out of Mexico?

01:36:43.000 And it's, what can I say?

01:36:45.000 You know, what can I say?

01:36:46.000 We're been in the game a minute, have a lot, a lot of takers, but no winners, no champions.

01:36:54.000 But look, in all seriousness, folks, this is what I want to throw out there.

01:36:58.000 And I was going to save this for tomorrow, but I'll say it here since we're on the subject.

01:37:02.000 I think we need to call this the Sound of Freedom Challenge.

01:37:05.000 And the Sound of Freedom challenge is this, that you have to go to your friends and you have to go get your friends to go see Sound of Freedom instead of Indiana Jones because that also comes out this weekend.

01:37:18.000 Go see Sound of Freedom and you have to see who can get the most of their friends because this is a big part of the Sound of Freedom's marketing pitch is that it's this pay it forward.

01:37:28.000 See how many of your friends you can get to say no to Indiana Jones and say yes to Sound of Freedom.

01:37:36.000 Very good.

01:37:37.000 All right, everybody, check out the Public Square app again.

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01:37:41.000 Take out your phone and download the Public Square app.

01:37:43.000 Special thanks to Rumble for broadcasting this conversation.

01:37:47.000 I will be back live at 12 p.m. Eastern tomorrow, 12 to 3.

01:37:52.000 But if you from 2 to 3, go watch Jack's show, I won't penalize you for that.

01:37:55.000 Jack's show is 2 to 3 Eastern.

01:37:58.000 He does a great job.

01:37:59.000 And you should subscribe to my podcast, subscribe to Human Events Podcast with Jack Pasobic.

01:38:03.000 Blake, Andrew, Jack, final thoughts, and then we'll wrap it up.

01:38:08.000 You know, Charlie, we are going to have to find new holes, new holes to boldly going to holes where no man has gone before.

01:38:17.000 Thought crime.

01:38:20.000 Blake.

01:38:21.000 Blake, you want to add on to that Star Trek style site?

01:38:25.000 I share Jack's pro-whole perspective.

01:38:28.000 I think we should also discover as many holes as possible and make Charlie aware of them.

01:38:33.000 So we're a pro-knowledge, pro-whole show.

01:38:37.000 The great CharlotteBouff movie, by the way.

01:38:41.000 All right, my send-off is that is a great film.

01:38:44.000 And the book is even better, by the way.

01:38:46.000 Which book is in Holes.

01:38:49.000 He likes holes.

01:38:50.000 It's an excellent.

01:38:51.000 I think it's by Louis Sakal, right?

01:38:54.000 Louis Satcher, I think.

01:38:55.000 Satcher is how they say it.

01:38:57.000 All right, my sign-off.

01:38:59.000 My sign-off is: if you want to date Blake Neff, please email at CharlieKirk.com.

01:39:07.000 Freedom at CharlieKirk.com.

01:39:09.000 Hi, IQ, Blake. 1.00

01:39:10.000 Single ladies. 0.84

01:39:12.000 He's single.

01:39:12.000 Jack, me, and Charlie, we're all married.

01:39:15.000 We're out of the game.

01:39:16.000 We don't know what holes are. 0.99

01:39:17.000 Apparently, Hunter Biden is a member of sex clubs. 0.75

01:39:20.000 We don't know anything about this, but here's single Blake. 0.99

01:39:24.000 Kill the stream. 0.76

01:39:25.000 Cut the stream now. 1.00

01:39:26.000 Kill the stream now. 0.99

01:39:27.000 Right now.

01:39:28.000 Hunter Biden, he would be our subject matter expert on the bonus hole.

01:39:32.000 However, he's invented.

01:39:34.000 He's freed new holes.

01:39:36.000 But Blake, if you want to date Blake, email us.

01:39:40.000 Freedom.

01:39:42.000 I said, kill the stream. 0.90

01:39:43.000 Why is the show continuing? 0.59

01:39:44.000 Why is the camera still on?

01:39:46.000 Charlie, final thoughts.

01:39:47.000 I wondered what it would be like if Mr. Clean had a beard.

01:39:50.000 That's Blake.

01:39:53.000 Great program, everybody.

01:39:54.000 We are going to be back tomorrow for our shows.

01:39:56.000 Subscribe to our podcast.

01:39:58.000 And until next time, hopefully this program does not get memory hold.

01:40:02.000 See you next week.

01:40:06.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

01:40:07.000 Email us your thoughts as always: freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:40:11.000 Thank you so much for listening.

01:40:12.000 God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - July 01, 2023

ThoughtCrime Ep. 3: "Bonus Holes," The End of AA, The Shopping Cart Test

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