The Charlie Kirk Show - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 30 — Civil War, Texas-Style? What's a Hicklib? Barbie Oscar Snub?

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00:01:38.000 Okay, everybody, happy Thought Crime Thursday.

00:01:42.000 If you are watching for the first time, this might be a familiar aesthetic because clips from this program have been viewed over 20 million times in the last week.

00:01:51.000 And we will get into that.

00:01:52.000 Blake, you're famous now.

00:01:54.000 Howdy, howdy.

00:01:54.000 You weren't famous before, but you are famous.

00:01:56.000 Oh, yeah.

00:01:57.000 The fame is growing every single day.

00:01:59.000 Tyler, good to see you.

00:02:00.000 Happy to be here.

00:02:01.000 It's been a fun week.

00:02:04.000 You know, I have a theory as to why this all broke.

00:02:06.000 And Jack is with us, and Jack has the first topic, but let me just say this theory.

00:02:10.000 I think because our stream was so successful in the New Hampshire primary night, it was a rising tide lifts all boats, and it just had a bunch of people then going through previously, like recently posted content because it was a lag effect.

00:02:24.000 We had the program last week, and then it was just nothing, nothing, nothing, New Hampshire.

00:02:29.000 And then the night of the New Hampshire primary, this idea of the pilot story started to go viral.

00:02:34.000 I prefer the idea that there's just some poor schlub at Media Matters or something who's just ordered to watch every single piece of content.

00:02:41.000 Oh, no, we know that.

00:02:42.000 Yeah.

00:02:43.000 And like, maybe he was just behind the curve.

00:02:45.000 Like, he's really slow, laggardly, but he's got to watch it.

00:02:47.000 He's like in real time.

00:02:48.000 And sometimes it's just like they really are not on top of it.

00:02:52.000 So, so, Jack, uh, we're doing very well on this wonderful website, Rumble.

00:02:57.000 And you have the first topic tonight.

00:02:59.000 You're very enthusiastic.

00:03:00.000 You're a big Barbie fan.

00:03:02.000 So, what is going on with Barbie?

00:03:05.000 No, so, so, you know, Charlie, just real quick, you know, it's very strange.

00:03:08.000 I was, I was out reporting on the campaign trail earlier today, had to fly in for thought crime, and I just made sure right before I went up, I said, guys, could you tell me the name of my pilot by chance before I get in?

00:03:23.000 I'm not going to name the airline United.

00:03:26.000 And they said, his name, oh, his name is John Smith.

00:03:31.000 And I said, oh, okay, great.

00:03:32.000 Wonderful.

00:03:32.000 Thank you so much.

00:03:33.000 No, but today's today's first topic, before we go on.

00:03:36.000 So this is Charlie.

00:03:38.000 It's not, I know we're going to talk a little bit more about air travel and the state of air travel a little bit later in the show.

00:03:44.000 But tonight we're going to talk about the Oscars because we all love the Oscars.

00:03:48.000 We're all huge Oscar fans.

00:03:49.000 Blake has never missed an Oscars actually since he's been alive and he's gone back and can memorize.

00:03:55.000 He can do the Roman Emperors, we all know.

00:03:57.000 But he can actually tell you every Oscar winner of every single category, all the way back to the first Oscars.

00:04:04.000 And uh, this this year around Charlie Barbie, Margo Robbie snubbed for the best actress category.

00:04:13.000 Greta Gerwig for best director, also snubbed.

00:04:16.000 But you know who got nominated for best actor?

00:04:19.000 Oh, that's right, Ryan Gosling.

00:04:21.000 For Ken and for the, as Rush used to call them, the feminazis out there, it was basically like 9-11, because the patriarchy got the achievement, while the women were told, well, you are not allowed on stage, you have to stay in the kitchen. 0.66

00:04:41.000 And so you know it really.

00:04:42.000 It really just goes to show you folks, we're back, we're so, absolutely back, and they're losing, they're actually losing their minds over this Charlie, that the idea that a guy who remember people have to understand too about, about Ryan Gosling, what he's doing is he's playing a woman's conception of a man right, whereas Margot Rabbi is playing a woman's conception of a woman and, let's be honest, her portrayal is completely boring.

00:05:08.000 But a lot of people have pointed out that Ken on his i'm sorry it is other.

00:05:12.000 I mean look, she's gorgeous.

00:05:14.000 Tanya was telling me that she liked the outfits, but Tanya actually fell asleep watching the movie and whereas Ken goes on this whole story arc where he actually understands that in the real world, so he, so Kens, are basically slaves in Barbie World um, and and this movie really in many ways is birth of a nation for women, and he then goes and become and finds out that in the real world, men are on all the money and men have been all the presidents,

00:05:14.000 That you know.

00:05:42.000 and men have invented everything and are and are in charge of the most successful companies.

00:05:47.000 And so he goes back to Barbie World and he, he leads the men to liberation and there's just something, there's just something very ironically glorious that he's the one who gets the Oscar nomination and not them. 0.75

00:06:00.000 Well, so one of the things that makes it funny, they're complaining about this and we we shouldn't miss this, by the way, that this got commentary from Hillary Clinton.

00:06:09.000 Who is this person?

00:06:10.000 Yes, I want to dig deep, deep here.

00:06:12.000 A lot of people have forgotten this.

00:06:13.000 Hillary Clinton actually is the person who ran for president once uh, a long, a long time ago.

00:06:19.000 I know it's, it's easy to forget, but there was this person, Hillary Clinton.

00:06:22.000 She was the wife of, of Bill Clinton, an actual president and she tried to run for president, and so they put her into the news cycle.

00:06:30.000 And so yesterday she tweeted in response to the Oscar nominations, Greta and Margo, while it can sting to win the box office, but not take home the gold, your millions of fans love you.

00:06:44.000 You're both so much more than Kenuff, which is a Ken thing, and then uh, hashtag Hillary Barbie.

00:06:54.000 She appears to have made that up herself.

00:06:57.000 Now what stands out as funny to me is they're talking like it's a big sec.

00:07:02.000 Like NEW YORK Times has this headline, uh like for Barbie fans online, a bitterly Ironic Oscar snub.

00:07:10.000 Margot Robbie missed the Academy Award nomination for actress, a fact that was a little too on the nose for some.

00:07:16.000 I will note the Oscar category is for best actress.

00:07:22.000 So the implication is she got left out due to sexism, but she just didn't get the nomination compared to other women competing for the same category for other films where they, as far as I know, played women. 0.89

00:07:34.000 Maybe some of them played dudes. 0.92

00:07:35.000 It's all the rage these days.

00:07:37.000 But so it fits into this realm in cinema where they just complain about things that are not real and don't happen. 0.97

00:07:45.000 A few years ago, they had a Captain Marvel movie come out about, it was one of those stupid superhero movies, and they acted like it was the first time a woman had ever starred in a major motion picture.

00:07:56.000 But in fact, many women have starred in motion pictures, and best actress has been an Oscar category, going back, as far as I know, to the original Oscars. 0.89

00:08:06.000 But I guess the cause of fighting systemic sexism has been going on for 100 years and will continue to go on because they are, in the end, systematically unhappy.

00:08:15.000 Has the Oscars ever nominated a biological woman into the male category or vice versa?

00:08:20.000 Or we're waiting for that.

00:08:22.000 That progress has been.

00:08:23.000 Well, they have nominated some women for best director, even though all the best directors are, in fact, men.

00:08:29.000 So there's something like there's a bit of that.

00:08:31.000 I thought a woman did Hurt Locker or something.

00:08:34.000 Yes. 1.00

00:08:34.000 A woman. 1.00

00:08:34.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

00:08:36.000 James Cameron's ex-wife, actually. 0.97

00:08:37.000 She won for that.

00:08:38.000 I believe she did.

00:08:39.000 And I think she was the first one to win for it.

00:08:41.000 In all seriousness, good movie.

00:08:42.000 I will just say I'm not exactly one to defend left-wing talking points, but usually men are the best directors.

00:08:42.000 I know.

00:08:48.000 But I actually think that's a good movie.

00:08:49.000 Yeah, it was a perfectly fine movie.

00:08:50.000 I pulled that off the top of my head. 1.00

00:08:52.000 So women have won. 1.00

00:08:53.000 Women have one. 1.00

00:08:54.000 Great.

00:08:56.000 No, I'm not arguing.

00:08:57.000 I was just trying to think.

00:08:58.000 I just said that that's my whole that I'm not exactly.

00:09:00.000 Clearly, adult curves are real.

00:09:03.000 And we're going to talk about that.

00:09:04.000 Not exactly a cinephile.

00:09:06.000 I just remember I liked Hurt Locker, and I remember everyone made a big thing that it was a female director.

00:09:13.000 But you think about it, the best director is an objectively great movie.

00:09:18.000 And by the way, the guy from the Bourne movie is the main actor, right?

00:09:22.000 I can't think of a single movie I like that had a woman that directed it.

00:09:25.000 I just don't know.

00:09:26.000 Apparently, a woman won Best Director in 2020 and 2021.

00:09:30.000 Jane Campion and Chloe Zhao.

00:09:32.000 I don't really watch movies because they're all CIA psychological operation programming.

00:09:37.000 Yeah, I haven't watched any movies lately either, other than Jeremy Renner.

00:09:40.000 Yes, Jeremy Renner, he's a good actor.

00:09:42.000 I don't know his politics.

00:09:42.000 I think he's a great actor.

00:09:43.000 He's a good actor.

00:09:44.000 Okay, Chloe Zhao.

00:09:45.000 I think he won't be, which was Mad Deem, which was a similar movie.

00:09:48.000 I think so.

00:09:49.000 He lives in Reno.

00:09:50.000 Chloe Zhao won for Nomad Land, a movie I didn't watch, and Jane Campion won for The Power of the Dog, a movie I have not watched.

00:09:50.000 Yeah, I think he's a.

00:09:58.000 Yeah, and when did The Color Purple win?

00:10:01.000 When that one was considered to be a good movie, I said, I'm done. 0.99

00:10:04.000 Like, this is all just garbage. 0.92

00:10:07.000 It's not like an 80s movie. 0.99

00:10:08.000 I would.

00:10:09.000 Oh, I know.

00:10:09.000 There's a recent they remade out there.

00:10:11.000 No, no, no, not 1988.

00:10:13.000 You guys are all out of the mix.

00:10:14.000 No, the color purple won recently.

00:10:16.000 Yeah, okay, yeah.

00:10:16.000 They did a 2023 version that Obama liked it a lot.

00:10:20.000 Yes, I know.

00:10:21.000 I think it won an award.

00:10:23.000 Right?

00:10:24.000 I don't know.

00:10:24.000 You know more about these movies than I do, apparently.

00:10:27.000 I don't watch the Oscars.

00:10:28.000 I'm just chilling.

00:10:29.000 I would note that Charlie's denials are becoming increasingly implausible.

00:10:34.000 I've passively scanned the news.

00:10:36.000 I don't watch the Oscars.

00:10:38.000 I did not watch The Color Purple.

00:10:40.000 I did not watch The Color Purple.

00:10:42.000 Charlie unconvincingly lied.

00:10:43.000 I can tell you, I definitely didn't watch this.

00:10:45.000 Do you hang out with Obama to watch movies with him?

00:10:48.000 Jeremy Rennie.

00:10:48.000 Only Arthur's Vineyard.

00:10:50.000 Jeremy Renner got in trouble a few years ago for.

00:10:53.000 Didn't he get in a car accident or something?

00:10:55.000 Yeah, he had a really bad accident.

00:10:56.000 He almost died or something.

00:10:57.000 I think I've heard that he was conservative.

00:10:59.000 He's a hard culture knowledge.

00:11:01.000 I heard that he was conservative, but he was making fun of Black Widow for being promised.

00:11:05.000 Oh, it was a mobile accent.

00:11:07.000 Yeah, it was a terrible through.

00:11:07.000 Okay, I was close.

00:11:08.000 Yeah, it was like a really bad freak accent.

00:11:10.000 All right, so Jack, so for the audience that doesn't Barbie, such as I, what is the significance here?

00:11:16.000 Is it just kind of to enjoy?

00:11:18.000 The one thing I was going to throw out that the that on Margot Robbie's behalf is that Margot Robbie was absolutely robbed of the best actress role in when she was nominated, but when she put out the movie I Tanya, where she played Tanya Harding, I think it was back in 2017 or 2018.

00:11:38.000 Skater, right?

00:11:38.000 Or the figure skater?

00:11:39.000 Yeah, the skater.

00:11:40.000 Yeah.

00:11:40.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:11:40.000 So the figure.

00:11:41.000 So Tanya Harding was the one where, and everybody thinks that Tanya Harding attacked Nancy Kerrigan at the 1994 Olympics, but it was actually like the people around Tanya Harding attacked Nancy Kerrigan.

00:11:53.000 And the movie is kind of like her side of the story, which is very different from what the tabloid side of the story is.

00:12:00.000 And it's just hilarious.

00:12:02.000 It's a great portrayal.

00:12:03.000 Everyone should go see it.

00:12:04.000 It's an incredible movie.

00:12:05.000 It shows you how much the media lies about things.

00:12:08.000 And the fact, and honestly, just the fact that Tanya Harding did not participate in this plot to attack Nancy Kerrigan.

00:12:17.000 Now, did she kind of cover up what happened afterwards?

00:12:20.000 Yeah, sure, right.

00:12:21.000 And she got in trouble for that, but she wasn't actually part of it, even though history constantly blames her for this.

00:12:26.000 And I think that Margot Robbie did a fantastic job.

00:12:29.000 And the reason that this matters so much, Charlie, for a political perspective, as well as just sort of where we are in the culture, right?

00:12:37.000 Is because Barbie goes on to be this incredible just box office juggernaut, something like $1.3, $1.4 billion, probably even more than that.

00:12:48.000 You know, easily defeated everything at the box office in 2023, certainly in terms of aggregate dollars.

00:12:57.000 Sound of Freedom, I think, is number one in terms of profitability because the ratio of how cheaply that was made.

00:13:02.000 It was either that or the new Godzilla movie, which is also made really, really cheaply, but went on to be a huge success.

00:13:08.000 The reason it matters so much is like goes back to what I was saying before that this was birth of the nation for women.

00:13:13.000 That these feminists, Charlie, and the fact that, look, I think most people, most girls who went to see the Barbie movie aren't coming out and actually like listening to it.

00:13:21.000 But there's a scene in there, and it's not even a scene, it's a whole plot where, in order to basically win over the film, you would think in a movie like this, like Ken versus Barbie, people would have said, you know, I think the classic movie plot would be, well, women and men need each other, right?

00:13:40.000 Ken needs Barbie, Barbie needs Ken, and that kind of would have been the end of the movie.

00:13:44.000 But that's not the end of this movie.

00:13:46.000 The end of this movie is that Barbie is superior to Ken and that women are superior to men and that women are not allowed to be held accountable. 0.96

00:13:56.000 Women are not allowed to be subject to objective standards of anything because women, of course, the main thing they want is to be the center of attention and have everyone talking about them. 0.99

00:14:09.000 And if everyone is not, then obviously it is because of sexism and it's because of misogyny.

00:14:15.000 That is quite literally, quite literally the message of this film.

00:14:19.000 And so for the response from the Academy to not give it the best actress nomination just flies in the face of all of the political and the feminist equity that has been built up in this, which is similar, by the way, to the Taylor Swift stuff that we've seen going on as well.

00:14:38.000 And the left, of course, is running around already making ads depicting girls dressed as Barbie, listening to Taylor Swift music and then going to vote for Democrats.

00:14:47.000 So there's so much equity that the Democrats have put into this branding.

00:14:51.000 And then they just straight up.

00:14:53.000 Jack, I got to tell you, I'm so unbelievably impressed by how long you talked about Barbie.

00:14:58.000 I just, that's a nonsense.

00:15:00.000 I got to be honest.

00:15:01.000 People said, interrupt them.

00:15:02.000 I said, I'm just enjoying it.

00:15:03.000 I just am enjoying it.

00:15:05.000 So, Jack, I just got to be honest, the chat hates the topic.

00:15:09.000 That's okay.

00:15:09.000 I thought it was great.

00:15:11.000 I keep an open mind.

00:15:13.000 Well, that's okay.

00:15:14.000 You know, some of us are trying to find out what's actually going on in America, the billions of dollars that are being spent.

00:15:18.000 No, Jack, I'm defending you.

00:15:20.000 You don't have to be aware of that.

00:15:21.000 You know, I have chat with you.

00:15:23.000 It's like, you know, no, no, it's so not, it's just a movie. 1.00

00:15:26.000 Guys, like, if you're, you're stupid if you think it's just a movie. 0.98

00:15:29.000 Like, honestly, this is one of the most high-level Democrat operations that's been going on for a long time in our country. 0.99

00:15:36.000 If you want to know why DEI, if you want to know why all of these political correctness stuff is being done, pushed to the highest level, it's because people get their understanding of the world from Hollywood movies.

00:15:46.000 And if you don't understand the influence they have on our society, then like maybe stop watching the show because this is made for Spark.

00:15:54.000 I think it's fair.

00:15:55.000 And look, I kept an open mind.

00:15:57.000 I don't, I will say that Marjo Robbie, she's Australian, right? 1.00

00:16:03.000 I think it's Marjot.

00:16:05.000 She did a good job on Wolf of Wall Street.

00:16:06.000 I thought she was good.

00:16:07.000 Wolf of Wall Street's great.

00:16:09.000 That's a great film.

00:16:09.000 Jack, thank you.

00:16:10.000 Let's get on to the Texas topic here.

00:16:13.000 Blake, what is the latest?

00:16:14.000 There seems to be a big cascading effect on Texas.

00:16:17.000 Well, there's kind of two perspectives.

00:16:19.000 You could either take the perspective that Texas is a brewing constitutional crisis and that's a good thing.

00:16:24.000 Or you could take the perspective that Texas is actually a non-crisis and that's also a good thing.

00:16:29.000 Shows savvy.

00:16:31.000 So big story this week, other than New Hampshire, is Texas has been fighting over whether they should allow 3 million people into the United States every year in an endless flood tide of humanity until they inundate the entire country, or they could not allow that to happen.

00:16:49.000 And in a sort of strange reversal, the United States government, which is supposed to like, you know, the executive branch is tasked with enforcing the laws of the United States.

00:17:00.000 Hence, executive comes from execute, you know, carry out.

00:17:03.000 They're taking the perspective that we should not execute these laws and Texas should be flooded.

00:17:08.000 So they sue, they, Texas started to put up barbed wire, razor wire, because the federal government won't do it.

00:17:15.000 And the federal government sued to make sure that the invasion would continue.

00:17:19.000 Our glorious, you know, six justice majority Supreme Court for conservatives agreed with that, that they can take down the razor wire.

00:17:27.000 And so Texas has announced they're going to just keep putting up more razor wire.

00:17:31.000 And initially, it did seem that initially it seemed like they were going to do this stunt of opposing, defying the Supreme Court.

00:17:41.000 But if you look closer at the wording of what's going on, there's no Supreme Court to defy.

00:17:46.000 All the Supreme Court did is say that the Biden administration is allowed to take wire down.

00:17:51.000 They don't say anything about what Texas can do.

00:17:53.000 So Texas says we're going to just keep putting up wire.

00:17:55.000 And if we want to.

00:17:56.000 Yeah, I think we led on this, though, Blake.

00:17:58.000 And I will fully acknowledge on our show, we were upset with the Supreme Court decision.

00:18:02.000 And then as time went on, we saw what Abbott was doing.

00:18:05.000 And then we reread the decision.

00:18:07.000 We said, wait a second, hold on.

00:18:09.000 It says the federal government has the ability to come cut wire.

00:18:13.000 It doesn't say that Texas can't put wire.

00:18:16.000 Now, they could still argue this.

00:18:18.000 Obviously, if you're getting on the work he is here, it is possible the Biden administration will come in and say that, you know, it's an insurrection to put up razor wire and anyone involved in this has to go to prison for five to 500 years.

00:18:32.000 The decision was pretty narrow, though.

00:18:34.000 We say decision, yet it's really just like a, I don't even know.

00:18:37.000 I can't remember the technical term, but they didn't issue a ruling.

00:18:41.000 All that we got was there was an injunction placed on the federal government at the circuit court level.

00:18:48.000 And the Supreme Court says, we reverse that injunction.

00:18:51.000 By the way, these four justices, the good ones, say that they would not have reversed the injunction.

00:18:57.000 And that's all we have.

00:18:58.000 We just have one of those brief non-ruling orders.

00:19:02.000 And But yes, it does mean that there's not really a Supreme Court to defy because the Supreme Court, all they did was reverse an injunction.

00:19:10.000 And so the reason we, you know, people talk about a brewing civil war is Abbott issued a pretty strongly worded letter pointing out there is a federal government obligation in the Constitution to protect the states from invasion.

00:19:23.000 Texas has declared an invasion.

00:19:25.000 There are a lot of laws and for that matter, personnel who could be deployed to halt this invasion.

00:19:31.000 And instead, the federal government is directly facilitating the invasion and making sure that as many invaders as possible come in.

00:19:38.000 So it's the fact that he's publicly stating this and that several dozen GOP governors at this point have backed him up in saying this.

00:19:46.000 And the big question, of course, is what happens next?

00:19:49.000 Because we have Joaquin Castro, we have Beta O'Rourke.

00:19:53.000 They're saying, well, these guys are in defiance of the federal government.

00:19:56.000 So we need to federalize the National Guard of all of these states, like what we did during the Little Rock crisis 60 years ago, oh gosh, 70 years ago, and forcefully intervene here is what they're all demanding.

00:20:11.000 And it's sort of, it's so reckless.

00:20:13.000 You have this, especially on the far left of the Democrat Party, they're really loving the idea of like, let's stoke this crisis as much as possible on behalf of a massively unpopular and illegal flood invasion into the United States of the entire planet.

00:20:31.000 Yeah.

00:20:32.000 And the question is: will Biden send in federal officers, Border Patrol, DHS, to go cut the wire?

00:20:37.000 They have yet to do that.

00:20:38.000 And that could be an optical nuclear bomb, despite what the Supreme Court says.

00:20:42.000 It's almost like be my guest.

00:20:44.000 And I don't think Texas will get in the way, but I think Texas might put up more wire afterwards because that's where the murkiness comes in.

00:20:50.000 Now, the spirit of the decision, not the text of the decision, basically is like, hey, let the federal government determine border policy.

00:20:57.000 That's the spirit of it.

00:20:58.000 Well, it's one of those, I was telling you the other day that it's like we have this super hidden constitution, which has, you know, the zeroth amendment to the Constitution is whatever else that says thou shalt have open borders.

00:21:11.000 No, that is the prime directive of modern America.

00:21:15.000 Pretty much, because we've had these orders, like we've had in the past, Arizona had that law about 15 years ago to try to curb illegal immigrants in a variety of ways. 0.83

00:21:24.000 And you'd get these courts that swoop in and say, whoa, when just by passing a law to discourage illegal immigrants, you're imposing on the federal government's, like indirectly, you're getting in the federal government's obligation.

00:21:37.000 They're the ones who enforce immigration law.

00:21:39.000 But then we have all of these sanctuary cities which do enormously disruptive or like unhelpful things to sabotage the enforcement of immigration law.

00:21:49.000 And none of these federal courts ever step in and say, oh, well, you're directly undermining the federal government's ability to enforce its laws.

00:21:57.000 And the Supreme Court has not taken up these cases.

00:22:01.000 We've had circuit courts strike that down while also striking down.

00:22:05.000 It's no matter what, the courts always end up coming around to, oh, wow, what a weird coincidence.

00:22:10.000 It turns out you're not allowed to have a border because the federal government.

00:22:13.000 So, Tyler, I want to get you in on this.

00:22:16.000 Tyler was, you know, he didn't chirp in, get it.

00:22:19.000 Because chirp is a theme here on the Barbie thing, and that's fine. 0.92

00:22:22.000 Tyler, what are the politics of this?

00:22:24.000 Because, I mean, you've radicalized me on the border of the years.

00:22:27.000 You're seventh generation Arizona. 0.56

00:22:29.000 This is a winning issue.

00:22:30.000 It's becoming like the issue.

00:22:31.000 The grassroots are on fire, swing voters, independents.

00:22:34.000 Talk about the politics of this.

00:22:36.000 Yeah, I mean, I want to harken back to a law that was passed in Arizona that was very controversial at the time.

00:22:44.000 It was at the time, Arizona had a super majority of Republicans in the state senate, and they passed a law called SB 1070.

00:22:52.000 I don't know if you remember this.

00:22:54.000 It was the Support Our Law Enforcement and Safety Neighborhoods Act.

00:22:58.000 And this was the Arizona used to be amazing, man.

00:23:01.000 It was, oh, we were so good.

00:23:02.000 And Senator Russell Pierce, rest in peace, he passed away last year, was the author of it, was the prime sponsor.

00:23:10.000 And it was supported by a majority of the supermajority in the state legislature here.

00:23:16.000 And this is, it made it a crime, a misdemeanor crime for an illegal alien that gets caught here without any kind of paperwork whatsoever.

00:23:27.000 It was a crime.

00:23:28.000 It was there was financial crime. 0.86

00:23:31.000 There was they get thrown in jail and ultimately we would send them back to Mexico. 0.93

00:23:36.000 And that was basically aiding ICE with doing its job, right?

00:23:41.000 Because ICE wasn't doing its job at the time during the Obama administration.

00:23:44.000 The second piece to this was you could go to jail if you hired or aided and helped and harbored an illegal alien.

00:23:54.000 And what happened out of that, remember?

00:23:57.000 Is that time?

00:23:58.000 It was like Gang of Eight time.

00:23:59.000 Was that period?

00:24:00.000 Was that when Arpaio put all the illegals in pink underwear out into the desert?

00:24:04.000 So Joe Arpaio.

00:24:05.000 He just did that with criminals, I think.

00:24:07.000 I don't think Joe said Joe.

00:24:10.000 I'm laughing because it's just like, it's just crazy.

00:24:12.000 His country has changed.

00:24:13.000 It's changed so much.

00:24:14.000 It's like so much different.

00:24:15.000 Arizona used to be this like.

00:24:16.000 But yeah, Sheriff Joe was putting people out in the desert in pink underwear, but they were locking up illegal immigrants and illegal aliens and they were sending them back to Mexico, which today, which today, like if anybody read this today, they're like, wait, we had that law and the it got overturned.

00:24:34.000 It went to the Ninth Circuit, got overturned by Susan Bolton.

00:24:38.000 Yes.

00:24:38.000 And Susan Bolton went after it.

00:24:40.000 But they overturned the whole thing.

00:24:42.000 And the Obama administration, the DOJ during the Obama administration, went after Sheriff Joe for racial profiling, remember?

00:24:48.000 Because it was the stop and frisk, asking for people's papers.

00:24:52.000 And we saw that everywhere, right?

00:24:53.000 That was where like the dreamers came from and everything else.

00:24:56.000 But I bring this up because the time period that you're mentioning, and we're kind of laughing because it's like, oh my gosh.

00:25:02.000 What a country.

00:25:03.000 The party did not embrace it at that time.

00:25:06.000 Today, I think you would actually get vocal support from the party because the party and a majority of Americans, because people are going, look at what's happening.

00:25:16.000 It's not, it has nothing to do with Mexican immigrants.

00:25:18.000 It has everything to do with people coming jumping our border from all over across the world.

00:25:22.000 So Tyler, but help me understand the psychology because this is the border fight, whether we like it or not, is largely being driven by Chamber of Commerce people right now.

00:25:31.000 And I don't think they want it.

00:25:32.000 I just think that it's so popular.

00:25:34.000 It's such in demand and it's such a crisis.

00:25:36.000 I mean, Abbott's a nice person.

00:25:38.000 He's a chamber guy.

00:25:39.000 Totally.

00:25:39.000 Let's be honest.

00:25:40.000 He's a chamber.

00:25:40.000 He's better than Bush.

00:25:42.000 He is not a movement conservative, but he's acting like one.

00:25:45.000 How do you explain that?

00:25:46.000 It's kind of like the way that the NRA at times would manage gun laws, right?

00:25:52.000 So remember, we've been really, there's been times where conservatives have been really angry with the NRA because they've embraced a worse version of a gun law or a gun bill than what we could have.

00:26:03.000 And their argument is that they're embracing it in order to manage it.

00:26:07.000 And that's, I think that's what you're seeing with like a Governor Abbott.

00:26:10.000 Like we saw in the last few days of Doug Ducey's administration, he was like sticking these big metal containers across the board that they ended up, we spent the money on it and they ripped it right out when Katie Hobbs got in there.

00:26:22.000 But they did this in Texas too, in Abbott.

00:26:24.000 And this is a lot of like illegal, anti-legal immigration cosplay that we see because it's popular, right?

00:26:32.000 Like Governor Abbott in the entire time that he served has not really prioritized border.

00:26:39.000 No, it's been patty cake.

00:26:40.000 Yeah.

00:26:41.000 And Ducey did this.

00:26:42.000 Ducey ignored it the entire time.

00:26:44.000 And now all of a sudden it gets popular.

00:26:46.000 I think they're managing this because it's popular and they know that, you know, like the SB 1070s and things like that, real conservatives will get in and they're going to start to demand things like this.

00:26:57.000 And then what are they going to do?

00:26:58.000 So, so Jack, I want to get you in on this.

00:27:00.000 You and I, Jack, are on a group chat with somebody we really respect.

00:27:03.000 Please don't say the name, okay?

00:27:05.000 But he's someone we respect.

00:27:06.000 He comes on our shows.

00:27:07.000 He speaks at our events, and he's very worried that what's happening in Texas is going to spark a civil war.

00:27:12.000 And we debated this in the chat.

00:27:14.000 Jack, can you just strongman that argument and why you think it's wrong?

00:27:18.000 Well, so there's a couple pieces of it, right?

00:27:22.000 And so we do need to talk about the wider situation of what's going on.

00:27:26.000 So we have Abbott there, obviously saying, you know, he's not going to back down the Biden administration's pressure, the Supreme Court ruling.

00:27:34.000 I think a lot of people have taken this out of context and they're saying that the Supreme Court told Texas to take down all the razor wire or that the Biden administration was going to take down all the razor wire.

00:27:44.000 That's not actually true.

00:27:45.000 And Blake went over that earlier.

00:27:47.000 But of course, you have all these other states saying that they're going to support Greg Abbott in his fight.

00:27:52.000 And then, of course, President Trump comes in completely over the top with his truth social post.

00:27:58.000 We had just gotten done talking to Caroline Levitt on Human Events Daily this afternoon, and she had told us that a big truth post was coming out that Trump was going to come out for Greg Abbott.

00:28:08.000 So we had a little bit of advance notice on it.

00:28:11.000 But then Trump comes in and says, I order all, not order, I welcome or encourage, I think he said, all willing states to send their guardsmen to the border and begin the deportations now.

00:28:24.000 He said, just straight up go down and start deporting them, removing them immediately.

00:28:29.000 Now, we have yet to see if anyone's going to take up Trump on that on that call, but it's certainly more forceful than I think anything anyone has said, at least in any of these positions.

00:28:38.000 The danger, Charlie, is that some people are taking this and actually calling, going online or going on forums, and they're trying to call for mass, you know, mass attacks on government facilities or mass disobedience, mass civil disobedience.

00:28:58.000 People talking, oh, we need to go kinetic action.

00:29:00.000 We need to act like Antifa.

00:29:02.000 We need to act like BLM. 0.98

00:29:03.000 And unfortunately, of course, we are not the BLM people, right?

00:29:07.000 We are not, our side is not going to get treated like them.

00:29:09.000 And Seattle, the city of Seattle just agreed to a $10 million deal to pay the activists, as they call them, the members of Antifa and BLM who were burning down Seattle and set up Chaz in 2020, $10 million because of the police tactics that were used during Chaz.

00:29:27.000 That's how it happens to when the left gets activated and does direct action.

00:29:31.000 When the right talks about it, guess what happens?

00:29:33.000 You get put on a watch list.

00:29:34.000 You get put on the no-fly list.

00:29:36.000 You get sent to the gulags down with the J-sexers. 1.00

00:29:40.000 So this is a huge danger here is if the Biden administration is able to find people or just get people to agitate enough so that they start calling for this kind of civil war type activity, the feds are going to swoop in.

00:29:55.000 And now suddenly this conversation where we're winning on the optics of this right now, very much support Greg Abbott, make sure it's done under the color of law, the invasion clause of the Constitution, that's all perfect.

00:30:08.000 But the minute people start going, oh, patriots need to activate and there's like some people are holding rallies and doing truck, there's like a truck convoy that's going through.

00:30:16.000 That's the exact same kind of thing that the feds are going to infiltrate and they're going to use this to go after you.

00:30:20.000 They're going to go after your bank account.

00:30:21.000 They're going to go after your social media accounts.

00:30:23.000 They're going to go after your personal freedom.

00:30:25.000 They're going to use it to censor the internet more.

00:30:28.000 And oh, by the way, this validates their entire central thesis of why Joe Biden is running to say we need to stop MAGA extremism.

00:30:37.000 Guess what?

00:30:38.000 He's going to make you the MAGA extremist.

00:30:41.000 He's going to make you the insurrectionist or God forbid.

00:30:44.000 And we'll just say it because we know they've tried to do this already.

00:30:48.000 Let's say some illegal immigrant gets shot or gets killed or as we saw last week, drowns, and then they blame it on Greg Abbott. 0.96

00:30:56.000 say, this is your fault, you white male Christian governor. 0.96

00:31:01.000 Just you did this and they're going to turn them that guy into the next George Floyd.

00:31:05.000 So they want Jorge Floyd is what they want, right?

00:31:05.000 Yeah.

00:31:08.000 So they want to try to have, they want to try to have a, you know, young man, you know, that is trying to come into the country, you know, five or six years old, get drowning. 0.99

00:31:18.000 And they say, oh my goodness, look at this.

00:31:20.000 And then they try to make it go viral.

00:31:21.000 And it's because of the open borders.

00:31:23.000 They just have all these professional.

00:31:25.000 photographers with HD cameras.

00:31:26.000 There was a thing last summer that was like this in the New York Post.

00:31:29.000 I'd like this mother and child are crawling through razor wire on the border.

00:31:33.000 And thank goodness there was this professional reporter with an HD camera right there to photograph the entire thing the whole time.

00:31:40.000 It was so weird.

00:31:41.000 They do this stuff.

00:31:42.000 It's disease what these people do. 0.60

00:31:42.000 It's sick. 0.60

00:31:44.000 And so just I want to be very clear though that they are the ones.

00:31:44.000 Yeah.

00:31:48.000 And I want to be, if any of you guys, I got an email here from somebody and I thought it was a Fed and they said, hey, Charlie, why don't we have a caravan down to the border with our weapons?

00:31:57.000 I just responded to Fed.

00:32:00.000 With our weapons?

00:32:01.000 No, I just responded.

00:32:02.000 They actually said, yeah, I said, I responded, Fed.

00:32:04.000 Hey, guys, we got to go in there.

00:32:06.000 And I said, stop Fed posting.

00:32:08.000 I just, this is.

00:32:08.000 Okay.

00:32:09.000 Hey, we need to break a window.

00:32:10.000 Don't take the Fed bait, folks.

00:32:12.000 Our problems are in there.

00:32:14.000 Tomorrow, we need to go into Mexico.

00:32:17.000 We're going to go and we're going to bring Jorge and bring Juan and bring Hector with us enough.

00:32:24.000 Okay.

00:32:25.000 Let's remember when there is an issue that is not going in their direction in election years, they need a psyop.

00:32:34.000 George Floyd was a psyop.

00:32:36.000 And even Blake will agree.

00:32:38.000 I'm not saying that the actual incident was, but the all-in platforming and overemphasis on that incident, which, by the way, there's a lot more to that incident than people would ever.

00:32:47.000 Oh my gosh.

00:32:48.000 A lot more.

00:32:49.000 In fact, it's more and more clear that George Floyd was not murdered and he was either drug overdosed or there was something else regarding it, right?

00:32:55.000 Around that.

00:32:56.000 Derek Chauvin did nothing?

00:32:57.000 Yes.

00:32:57.000 Well, are you seeing this?

00:32:59.000 So on Wikipedia right now, Stillboneless is watching and sent this in.

00:33:03.000 If you go to the Wikipedia article for, they call it the standoff at Eagle Pass.

00:33:09.000 You guys got to pull this up.

00:33:10.000 The standoff at Eagle Pass, they're already describing it on Wikipedia, left-wing platform, as if it's some kind of battle.

00:33:17.000 They're listing the governors on one side.

00:33:21.000 They're listing Biden on the other.

00:33:23.000 And it already says casualties and losses, three migrants drowned.

00:33:28.000 This is on the official Wikipedia page right now, already referring to this as essentially some kind of skirmish.

00:33:36.000 And they're saying there's already been three deaths of migrants.

00:33:39.000 So look at that.

00:33:40.000 In addition, I just want everyone to know this, okay?

00:33:44.000 That they're losing on the border.

00:33:45.000 And so they're trying to create an op.

00:33:48.000 Now, what does that mean?

00:33:49.000 It could either be feds or it could be Fed adjacent people.

00:33:53.000 It could be left-wingers masquerading as conservatives who are going to try to make you do something uncharacteristic.

00:34:00.000 Like, oh, go get your weapons and go down to the border.

00:34:02.000 Don't do that.

00:34:03.000 Okay.

00:34:04.000 The proper way to do this is to follow the law, to bring down the temperature.

00:34:09.000 The solution is not all of a sudden you get your pickup truck with an AR-15.

00:34:12.000 You take this into your own hands.

00:34:14.000 Okay.

00:34:15.000 And to be clear, Texas National Guard denies the story.

00:34:19.000 And let me tell you what the cartel does.

00:34:21.000 This is a true story.

00:34:22.000 And I heard this from two separate Border Patrol agents.

00:34:25.000 The cartel will throw a three-year-old in the river.

00:34:29.000 And do you know what Texas National Guard and Border Patrol does?

00:34:32.000 They go out of their way.

00:34:33.000 They mobilize everyone to go save the three-year-old in the river that's drowning.

00:34:36.000 Do you know what that does?

00:34:37.000 It creates a diversionary effect.

00:34:39.000 And then the gotaways, hundreds of yards away, scatter into the country.

00:34:43.000 That's what's happening on the border.

00:34:45.000 The cartel is throwing kids into the Rio Grande River on a daily basis.

00:34:50.000 And we don't even, those are the gotaways that don't get Expedia flights to Chicago.

00:34:54.000 Are the real bad old bad guys?

00:34:56.000 And I mean, Blake, what I what I think is important, the layers to the border story is so horrific.

00:35:03.000 The more the American people learn about this, the more just their stomach just, you know, the pit in their stomach worsens.

00:35:10.000 What I think, even accepting that, what really messes, or I don't want to say mess, what I find most appalling.

00:35:19.000 The cartels are super awful and they do tons of terrible things.

00:35:22.000 But what I think people really can't comprehend, they can comprehend cartels, smuggling, doing all of that bad stuff. 0.97

00:35:30.000 What people can't get their heads around is how much fake crap is built into our supposed immigration system in order to ensure the end result of de facto open borders.

00:35:44.000 What I think stands out the most about that is the complete legal fiction that we have around the idea of like these, you know, their day in court, these immigration hearings. 0.52

00:35:56.000 So the system we have right now, like, why are they getting released in?

00:36:00.000 Well, they arrive and they're given a script.

00:36:03.000 All of them are trained in this by NGOs who go to Mexico to help them with this, like legal, you know, legal advisors.

00:36:08.000 They have lawyers who advise them.

00:36:10.000 And these lawyers tell them, well, you're more likely to get an asylum hearing if you have, you know, one of these 10 things that you can claim.

00:36:16.000 So claim that you are fleeing political persecution.

00:36:19.000 Claim that you're LGBTQIA who wrote this criteria. 0.74

00:36:24.000 I'm not saying it's a literal list.

00:36:25.000 Is it international humanitarian stuff or is this American law?

00:36:28.000 I think Congress ever vote on this stuff?

00:36:31.000 It's a lot of its bureaucratic production.

00:36:34.000 We got to get rid of all this.

00:36:35.000 We're allowed to have.

00:36:36.000 If we win in November, Trump's got to rewrite all this stuff.

00:36:38.000 Yeah, like we're allowed to have, you know, we have a process for giving people asylum and the government has been creating this process.

00:36:43.000 So what they do is, you know, if you have any of these following things that anyone can just make up, you claim you're seeking asylum and then they're like, well, we have to adjudicate this.

00:36:52.000 So here's your, you know, we'll give you this and then we're going to give you an immigration hearing date later.

00:36:58.000 And, you know, you can just come into the country and, you know, we have to let you work and support yourself while you wait for your asylum hearing.

00:37:03.000 And the average wait for an asylum hearing in many jurisdictions is like minimum three years.

00:37:08.000 Some people are getting dates five, even 10 years in the future.

00:37:12.000 That is, you have been allowed into America amnesty.

00:37:14.000 Because if you don't even show up at that hearing, what happens?

00:37:18.000 Nothing right now.

00:37:21.000 Yeah, they don't call ICE and say go get Jorge Ramsay.

00:37:23.000 They don't call ICE on anyone.

00:37:24.000 As Biden said, he only wants ICE to go after people who are felons.

00:37:27.000 And by the way, drunk driving is not a felony, as he said, even though it kills thousands of people a year.

00:37:32.000 But, you know, who cares about a crime that is disproportionately committed by illegal immigrants, by the way? 1.00

00:37:36.000 This is why they hated SB 1070, right?

00:37:39.000 Because this was the thing.

00:37:40.000 If the local law enforcement agencies are emboldened or empowered to basically be able to round up illegals and bring them back to the border and then give them like to the front, because they were just dropping them off at ICE and saying, okay, here you go.

00:37:54.000 And then ICE was like, in the Obama administration at this time, they were like, oh my gosh, now what do we have to do?

00:38:00.000 But this is the point is anything that gets passed in any state, these deep red states have every ability and every right to pass laws so that when that happens, they can pick them up off the street and they just will refuse to do it because of the jurisprudence.

00:38:17.000 It's so evil what they do.

00:38:19.000 Because think about how much this is the opposite of things the left cares about.

00:38:22.000 So for example, what we talked about last week, civil rights law. 0.96

00:38:26.000 Civil rights law works through distributed decentralized enforcement.

00:38:30.000 Anyone can sue you for supposedly violating a federal civil rights law.

00:38:36.000 But even if they don't, the courts can just do this and impose a huge penalty on you.

00:38:40.000 And you never actually need the police involved at all.

00:38:42.000 We don't need a police agency to enforce civil rights laws.

00:38:46.000 Whereas with immigration, imagine if we just had a system where, oh, anyone who has been harmed by you assisting illegal. 0.57

00:38:54.000 So, for example, any private citizen should be able to sue a company that employs illegal immigrants for just the general harm of you employ illegal immigrants, you're not employing Americans. 0.92

00:39:04.000 You should be sued for that.

00:39:05.000 And by the way, any red state, I believe, could pass this.

00:39:07.000 I don't think federal governments have barred this.

00:39:11.000 And you could easily make it so any private actor could essentially enforce immigration law.

00:39:16.000 And if we cared about it, local police and state police would be both allowed and incentivized to locate illegal immigrants and have them brought in to be deported. 0.97

00:39:26.000 That's what we would do if we cared about our laws.

00:39:28.000 Instead, we deliberately have set up a system that is intentionally confusing, inefficient, and fraudulent to get the maximum number of illegals here for what is essentially like a treasonous enabling of a foreign incursion in the US.

00:39:42.000 That is the prime directive.

00:39:43.000 Bring bring in as many foreigners as quickly as possible, period. 1.00

00:39:47.000 Totally.

00:39:47.000 Europe is a good example of this too.

00:39:49.000 Oh, I'll let Jacko.

00:39:51.000 No, I was going to say the word you use right there.

00:39:53.000 I mean, when you have an invasion of the country, which is something that obviously early on, the founders were very worried about this because the United States was surrounded by multiple empires.

00:40:03.000 The French Empire was right there. 0.78

00:40:04.000 The Spanish Empire was just to the south.

00:40:07.000 The British Empire was still kind of, you know, was to the north in Canada.

00:40:11.000 And so this idea of empires coming and invading the states was very real.

00:40:16.000 And also the idea of transnational organization.

00:40:19.000 There were smugglers back in those days, transnational organizations.

00:40:22.000 So the cartels of today are just part of a long line.

00:40:26.000 I mean, these things existed, right?

00:40:27.000 Criminals existed, obviously, back at the time of the founding as well.

00:40:31.000 These aren't new institutions.

00:40:32.000 You know, just because we have different words for them doesn't mean that the Constitution doesn't apply to these cases.

00:40:37.000 And these were obvious worries at the time of the founding because of the weak, relatively weak nature of the country.

00:40:44.000 And so this idea that the states don't have the right to self-defense, that they don't have the right to prevent invasion.

00:40:51.000 And just in the sense that any president, and you got to, Tanya Tay and I were having dinner right before this.

00:40:58.000 I usually, you know, I'll go home and then come back to the studio for this.

00:41:01.000 And she goes, how can a government allow something like this?

00:41:06.000 How could any government just allow this and then fight someone who was like a local person who was trying to stop it?

00:41:14.000 It's the opposite of what a government is supposed to be doing.

00:41:17.000 And the word for that actually is treason.

00:41:20.000 It's literal treason.

00:41:22.000 There isn't any other word for what if there's an invasion of your country and you're the side of the invaders, you're obviously committing treason.

00:41:28.000 Yes.

00:41:28.000 And Andrew makes a great point.

00:41:30.000 In the 1800s, if Texas got invaded, it could take 30 days minimum, maybe 90 days for news to get all the way back to Washington, D.C. and then back to declare yourself your own sovereignty.

00:41:45.000 States needed to be empowered to repel an invasion.

00:41:49.000 And by every possible criteria, what is happening on the southern border is an invasion.

00:41:54.000 And something that, and I told this to Speaker Johnson over the weekend, we had a very spirited conversation and we'll see what happens.

00:42:01.000 I don't know if it's going to make any impact or not.

00:42:03.000 But I told him, I said, one of the things that we're not doing a good enough job of is we are not talking about how this is a sophisticated, strategic, planned out operation.

00:42:15.000 This is not just a bunch of, you know, the people think when people say, well, it's chaos on the border.

00:42:20.000 Well, sort of.

00:42:21.000 It's actually not.

00:42:23.000 This is like with fake.

00:42:24.000 It's like kabuki theater.

00:42:25.000 It's fake chaos.

00:42:27.000 Yes, it is.

00:42:27.000 The chaos is that Biden can't get them in quick enough.

00:42:30.000 And so what people must understand, we talked about this on the show, and Todd Bensman, to his credit, said this on Steve Bannon's program.

00:42:36.000 He said that Biden really hated the images under the underpass.

00:42:42.000 Remember that where there was like 5,000 people?

00:42:44.000 So Biden personally got upset about that.

00:42:47.000 So did Kareem Jean-Pierre.

00:42:49.000 So they said, hey, listen, the problem is not that they're all coming.

00:42:52.000 The problem is that people see them in these masses.

00:42:55.000 And then Border Patrol and DHS said, well, let me, you know, President Biden or whoever is calling Ron Klain, let me tell you why these are there.

00:43:02.000 It's because we're doing DNA testing and we run them through a background check and call their country of origin and say, hey, you know, I got this guy, Mohammed, you know, Saloon. 0.85

00:43:12.000 from Kazakhstan and the Kazakhstani embassy like, oh, yo, you have that guy?

00:43:17.000 He murdered six people a year ago.

00:43:19.000 Don't let him in.

00:43:20.000 And then, so that's what's creating the lit, the line, because they say, wait here when I figure out who you are.

00:43:25.000 And they don't do that at all anymore because Biden doesn't want the line.

00:43:29.000 Because and think about, because it comes.

00:43:32.000 We're talking about 10,000 people a day cross the border.

00:43:35.000 Think about how many things have 10,000 people with no big deal.

00:43:38.000 TSA lines at Houston or whatever.

00:43:40.000 I'm not even saying you should let them into the country. 1.00

00:43:42.000 I'm saying that if you were to do it, then like there's even a like there are individual like metro stations in New York that handle 10,000 people an hour.

00:43:51.000 I just want people to understand that not only do we have open borders, the way they're doing open borders is so treasonous.

00:43:57.000 It's so cruel.

00:43:59.000 And I don't think we're making that argument good enough.

00:44:01.000 So the cartel is piping these people in.

00:44:03.000 They're not even doing DNA tests.

00:44:06.000 So there's some guy that comes up and he's like, yeah, this is my daughter and she's 12 years old.

00:44:10.000 And they don't even do in 90 seconds.

00:44:12.000 In 90 seconds, you can go swab, swab, is there similar DNA?

00:44:17.000 90 seconds.

00:44:18.000 Charlie, there are non-traditional families now and they're coming to the border to seek asylum from countries that won't accept them.

00:44:23.000 Yeah, non-traditional, such as like sex slaves and kidnapping.

00:44:27.000 That's just a different way of life, Charlie. 0.92

00:44:29.000 No.

00:44:30.000 You know, the Biden administration stopped the DNA testing.

00:44:32.000 That's what I'm saying, though, because of the line.

00:44:35.000 Think about that.

00:44:36.000 They stopped.

00:44:37.000 There is a modern North American slave trade occurring on the southern border.

00:44:42.000 And we're lectured about slavery all the time.

00:44:43.000 And a single thing, it doesn't stop it, but it's just worse than a significant.

00:44:48.000 What?

00:44:50.000 I think it's even worse than that because don't forget Sound of Freedom, man.

00:44:56.000 There is a scene in there.

00:44:57.000 So keep in mind, Sound of Freedom was made in the midst of the Trump administration.

00:45:02.000 So the only scene where you see the border is they're sort of like driving across.

00:45:06.000 And this is a child sex trafficking organization.

00:45:08.000 Now, the child sex traffickers don't need to worry about that because that's where they got caught.

00:45:13.000 Of course, they just send and they're doing these things like you just mentioned.

00:45:16.000 They'll throw someone in the river.

00:45:17.000 They'll bring someone up across the border in other ways.

00:45:20.000 They don't have to worry about the DNA testing.

00:45:22.000 So the Trump administration had put all of these policies in place to stop the child sex traffickers. 0.95

00:45:28.000 But now the child sex traffickers are having an absolute bonanza because not only do they get the kids up and then get to sell them, they can just rape them on the way while they're going across as well. 0.78

00:45:38.000 So when you're seeing these children come across, you have to understand, particularly little girls, sometimes little boys as well, though. 0.79

00:45:44.000 And this is obviously what everybody remembers President Trump's first interview when he was running for office all the way back in 2015 was with Don Lemon specifically talking about this issue about women and young girls being raped while they were being brought across the border.

00:46:02.000 And Don Lemon's like, oh, well, those are women or, you know, they're just victims. 0.96

00:46:06.000 You can't say that.

00:46:07.000 You got to get that traffickers.

00:46:08.000 One of the greatest clips in Trump's history. 0.97

00:46:10.000 And somebody's doing the raping. 0.99

00:46:12.000 Somebody is doing the raping. 0.98

00:46:14.000 Somebody's doing the raping. 0.99

00:46:15.000 And so, yes, there are rapists that are on the border that are exploiting women and these policies.

00:46:22.000 I want to just close this point, though, to educate the audience on this because it's super wonky.

00:46:26.000 So that for the first portion of the Biden administration's term, they were still running the border somewhat through Trump protocol, not totally, largely without knowing it because they're really...

00:46:37.000 Sometimes under court order.

00:46:39.000 Yes.

00:46:39.000 And they're also just lazy, right?

00:46:40.000 And so they just didn't know it.

00:46:42.000 And so all of a sudden, all these crowds, because they say, okay, the borders are open, these crowds, because they did get rid of Remain in Mexico.

00:46:48.000 They got rid of the pandemic stuff.

00:46:49.000 They got rid of all of it.

00:46:50.000 And so remember that Bill Melusian thing that went so viral.

00:46:53.000 It was every network and they said, look at this underpass.

00:46:56.000 And then the Biden administration said, let them all in as quickly as possible.

00:46:59.000 And so we have no idea who they are.

00:47:00.000 We don't know where they go.

00:47:01.000 They're on the interior of the country.

00:47:03.000 Blake, you were going to make a point.

00:47:04.000 Well, so we've focused a lot on obviously all the duplicity, treachery, treason, if you want to say that at the border.

00:47:11.000 I agree with what they're doing.

00:47:13.000 But remember what prompted this?

00:47:15.000 You know, our title here is Civil War, Texas style.

00:47:17.000 We're having this showdown at the border.

00:47:19.000 So I think we should explore the topic of, okay, if this is a showdown that's going forward, what should conservatives, or really, what should people who believe in America being a country, what should we do?

00:47:32.000 How do we tactically approach this?

00:47:34.000 Because we were saying, you know, do you dare them to have the bad visual?

00:47:38.000 I kind of want to just make an analogy.

00:47:40.000 So the United States Civil War, it opens with that crisis over Fort Sumter where the South shells Fort Sumter.

00:47:47.000 And what's not well known is there's this elaborate political game that goes into Fort Sumter before it happens because Fort Sumter is a union fort in southern territory.

00:47:58.000 The South is saying, get out, we've seceded.

00:48:00.000 Lincoln says, I'm not going to get out, but how do you do that?

00:48:04.000 Well, Lincoln goes into this crisis and he's absolutely can't be the one who shoots first.

00:48:09.000 We're not going to be the ones who shoot first.

00:48:11.000 They have to be the ones who shoot first.

00:48:13.000 And he knows this. 0.92

00:48:14.000 He's like, these guys are southerners.

00:48:16.000 They've got this kind of cavalier culture, this honor culture. 1.00

00:48:19.000 They won't be able to handle this and they'll do something stupid. 1.00

00:48:22.000 And so what he announces is, I'm going to send food to Fort Sumter. 0.99

00:48:26.000 And he just, he kind of provokes Jeff Davis or the locals in Charleston to shoot at Fort Sumter.

00:48:32.000 And then he's able to say they shot first.

00:48:34.000 I just recite this not to talk about that civil war, but the idea of in any of these political showdown crises, there's sort of this game of escalation.

00:48:46.000 And how do you make sure the crisis keeps going without you like losing it, but without you going too far?

00:48:53.000 So we have to think, what do we want Abbott?

00:48:55.000 What do we want congressional Republicans to do so that as far as this political crisis goes, we achieve what we want of either making them change the policy at the border or making sure that if they don't, that the public is on our side and this produces an election result, which we can then use to fix the border.

00:49:16.000 So the main thing that you don't want this, I was just going to say, the main thing you don't want this to become is, like we were just saying, you don't want this to escalate into a civil war.

00:49:25.000 You don't want this to escalate in something.

00:49:27.000 You do want those optics.

00:49:29.000 You want the optics of the Biden administration trying to send people down to open our border.

00:49:35.000 You want the optics of people that are stuck on one side and can't get across, right?

00:49:41.000 These are the optics that are very damaging for the Biden administration.

00:49:44.000 But if this becomes something else, if this becomes something that's larger and gets away from the talking about the invasion and the fact that there is an invasion and fighting the invasion or showing that one guy is on the side of the invasion, then you get into a very, very big problem.

00:50:03.000 And so this is obviously, Charlie, this is what our mutual friend was talking about, that there's an acceleration play here where people want to just step on the gas pedal and like, you know, bomb Fort Sumter and just go for it.

00:50:16.000 And it's like, guys, no, no, no, no.

00:50:18.000 That's the exact opposite of what we want to be doing right now.

00:50:21.000 An idea we had a few days ago that you stated on the show.

00:50:24.000 I said it to him on the phone.

00:50:25.000 Yeah, well, we should say it here so people will pressure him.

00:50:27.000 He was receptive, but so this was, we're talking about Speaker of the House, Johnson.

00:50:32.000 And the idea is we were saying, guys, if we're going to have a shutdown, which they chose not to have a shutdown, the communication should be the border thing is a huge existential crisis for America that the Biden administration is deliberately ignoring.

00:50:47.000 So what you told Johnson was, literally go to the border, take as many Republicans as will go with you and set up shop on the border, set up a tent, sleeping bags, and say, this is where the crisis is.

00:50:58.000 Come here to negotiate with me.

00:50:59.000 Yes.

00:51:01.000 And by the way, have like a big war tent.

00:51:02.000 You know how like in like wartime, they sign like little pins.

00:51:05.000 You know what I mean?

00:51:06.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:51:07.000 Like, you know, in Game of Thrones, they always like sign the settlements, like the two clans, they meet in like a big tent.

00:51:13.000 You know, you know what I'm saying?

00:51:14.000 Like Genghis Congos or Alexander the Great.

00:51:17.000 You pitch like a big, you'd be like, this is where we'll negotiate, Chuck Huschumer.

00:51:20.000 You want to reopen the government?

00:51:21.000 You got to come down to Eagle Pass.

00:51:22.000 Yeah, just come to Eagle Pass.

00:51:24.000 This is where the crisis is.

00:51:25.000 And lay out, you know, every day you can still be like do viral, do TikTok videos if you need to.

00:51:31.000 Yes.

00:51:32.000 Where you're saying, this is what's happening on the border every day.

00:51:34.000 Do interviews with people, you know, journalists or border patrol people speaking in, or you could probably get actual border patrol.

00:51:40.000 You're with the government.

00:51:41.000 Describe what is happening, videotape what is happening, and then lay out, you know, this is what Republicans want to do, which is secure the border, do XYZ thing.

00:51:50.000 And this is what the Biden administration is doing right now.

00:51:54.000 This is why it's a crisis.

00:51:56.000 And they're complaining about shutting down the government.

00:51:58.000 At the border, they have already shut down the government and that they are refusing to do our laws.

00:52:04.000 And I said this on the phone, I'll say it again.

00:52:05.000 It is one of the great PR victories you're not taking.

00:52:08.000 The entire country is turning against the Democrats on the Biden, the border issue.

00:52:12.000 And you have an opportunity.

00:52:13.000 By the way, the media would fall for the trap because they would send all their crews down to the speaker.

00:52:18.000 Because when you shut down the government, they want to get comment.

00:52:20.000 They want to get comment.

00:52:21.000 They want to get comment, right?

00:52:22.000 And all of these reporters come out and you shut down the government.

00:52:25.000 You say, meet me in Eagle Pass.

00:52:27.000 I mean, that would be that it would be, imagine the shots.

00:52:32.000 Imagine the videos tape.

00:52:35.000 Every day, Speaker Johns could say, hey, I will reopen the government.

00:52:38.000 Let's just sit down and negotiate here in Eagle Pass.

00:52:41.000 And it's so perfect because as long as he's there, they can't spin the shutdown as really being about anything else, which they'll always do.

00:52:48.000 That's what's leaving these social security people.

00:52:52.000 Yeah.

00:52:53.000 Which is not true.

00:52:53.000 But, you know, and instead it would say, no, actually, and he has to, he has to gut it out.

00:52:58.000 He has to literally just sleep in the tent and you would be known as the speaker who went all in.

00:53:05.000 I mean, Tyler, with the base not just like, I mean, by the way, if Republicans want to fix their fundraising problem, he would raise like $10 million overnight.

00:53:13.000 And that's not why.

00:53:14.000 Sell RNC branded tent camping gear?

00:53:17.000 No, I mean, but all, I mean, seriously, I mean, we could send him my pillows.

00:53:20.000 But I think what we're getting at, though, is we are yearning, and this is why Trump is doing well.

00:53:25.000 We're yearning for a symbol of a fighter.

00:53:27.000 And this would be more than symbolic if we believe the border.

00:53:30.000 And by the way, Speaker Johnson, on my conversation with him, acknowledged to his credit, there's nothing more important than the border.

00:53:36.000 And we'll see if he believes it, right?

00:53:37.000 But he said this, there's nothing more important than the border.

00:53:40.000 The border is the existential crisis.

00:53:41.000 It is the biggest humanitarian thing ever.

00:53:45.000 And I said, but I think you missed the opportunity here.

00:53:49.000 We shall see.

00:53:50.000 We shall see.

00:53:51.000 I want to tell you about one of our partners, Tyler, you have a thought here.

00:53:54.000 I was just going to say just one thing, too.

00:53:56.000 And this is really important, too, because it's not just the illegal immigration that's happening.

00:54:00.000 It's the legal migration. 0.59

00:54:03.000 The guest where I had a family member that had a violent crime committed against her at a way earlier part of a long time ago.

00:54:11.000 It was committed by someone that was an abuser of the migrant worker, the H-2A visa program.

00:54:17.000 Which no one wants to touch.

00:54:18.000 Which no one wants to touch.

00:54:20.000 And even, and again, I'm not going to be critical, super critical of the Trump administration.

00:54:24.000 It got started in the Reagan administration.

00:54:25.000 It ballooned in the Trump administration.

00:54:27.000 It went from 70,000 a year illegal to processed over 350,000 a year.

00:54:33.000 That's crazy.

00:54:35.000 And we're not even talking about that.

00:54:36.000 I mean, that's a surge that's crazy.

00:54:38.000 That's probably gone up even since 2022.

00:54:40.000 So, anyways, that's like there's so much to be handled.

00:54:44.000 I hope that that's one of the things Trump gets back in and realizes that H1B, H2B, J1, all that stuff.

00:54:50.000 The H2A.

00:54:51.000 But the H2A pieces, because those are over, those are 300,000 people a year that they're using that as a vehicle just to get into the country through quote-unquote legal means.

00:54:59.000 And you'll never see him again.

00:55:01.000 You'll never see him again.

00:55:02.000 They'll commit violent crimes.

00:55:03.000 You can never get him.

00:55:03.000 You can never get him back.

00:55:04.000 Tyler, I want you to prove just last week.

00:55:08.000 I mentioned this.

00:55:08.000 When you had COVID, did ivermectin not save your life?

00:55:11.000 Ivermectin, I would have for 12.

00:55:14.000 Blake is cringing.

00:55:15.000 No, this is true, Blake.

00:55:17.000 Your chat's going to hate you.

00:55:18.000 I would just hold that.

00:55:22.000 Odds of recovery were high, thankfully, because COVID is not dying.

00:55:27.000 It was a cause and effect.

00:55:28.000 I had 12 straight days.

00:55:30.000 If you had done my story, you would be one of the youngest people to have died of COVID for real.

00:55:35.000 This wasn't a weird thing.

00:55:36.000 I had 12 straight days.

00:55:38.000 I had 106-degree fever for two days.

00:55:42.000 I started taking medicine.

00:55:44.000 On Tylenol and Advil going back and forth, I was still at a 104 for 12 straight days.

00:55:50.000 I thought I was going to die, Blake.

00:55:51.000 And then Ivermectin arrived.

00:55:53.000 And then I arranged for it.

00:55:54.000 Yeah.

00:55:54.000 I got a drop of ivermectin and I took it.

00:55:58.000 Next day, I'm good.

00:55:59.000 I'm not kidding.

00:56:01.000 I was perfect.

00:56:02.000 I could walk up.

00:56:03.000 Like, I couldn't move.

00:56:05.000 I mentioned this because I'm telling you, ivermectin can work for you.

00:56:08.000 I saw it save Tyler's life.

00:56:10.000 There would be no ballot chasing.

00:56:11.000 There would be no turning point action.

00:56:13.000 I'll say is, I thought I was going to die.

00:56:15.000 There's no evidence ivermectin is harmful.

00:56:17.000 So if you want to take it, go for it.

00:56:19.000 I just like, I don't think it's next to a guy who was at 106.

00:56:24.000 I went, I didn't even know I was sick because my wife, we got COVID.

00:56:27.000 We tested.

00:56:28.000 We're like, ha ha ha, this is so funny.

00:56:29.000 I come inside.

00:56:30.000 I'm sorry.

00:56:31.000 I feel a little hot.

00:56:32.000 Took my temperature 106.2 degrees.

00:56:36.000 Literally, you die after like six days of it.

00:56:39.000 Okay, but if you want to get ivermectin for your family, how do you get this?

00:56:42.000 How do you get this?

00:56:43.000 Twc.health slash CJ.

00:56:47.000 If you guys, you ate life-saving medications, including amoxticillin, Z-PAC, which we're going to talk about ZPACs and antibiotics in a little while.

00:56:54.000 Ivermectin, which saved Tyler's life.

00:56:56.000 It's not a joke.

00:56:58.000 So you can rest knowing that there are emergency meds on hand, along with the guidebook for safe use from tick bites to COVID to extreme bioterror events.

00:57:06.000 Every scenario is covered.

00:57:08.000 Go to twc.health slash CJ, and that is for Charlie and Jack.

00:57:12.000 So it's TWC.health slash CJ.

00:57:14.000 It's a great investment.

00:57:15.000 There's some nasty stuff going on.

00:57:17.000 People are getting hospitalized over respiratory stuff.

00:57:20.000 It is a nasty season out there.

00:57:21.000 And it's good to have the stuff in case you need it.

00:57:25.000 Yes.

00:57:25.000 And Tyler, will you attest further?

00:57:27.000 I thought I was going to have renal failure from all the Tylenol I was taking.

00:57:30.000 No, seriously, I could feel it.

00:57:32.000 And if I would have taken ivermectin, I think on day one, I probably would have saved my kidneys.

00:57:37.000 I'm probably going to die early because I'm going to have kidney failure because during ivermectin, which was probably destroys your kidneys.

00:57:44.000 Totally.

00:57:44.000 Yes.

00:57:45.000 All I'll say is I felt it.

00:57:46.000 It was like it hurt much.

00:57:49.000 I also had COVID.

00:57:51.000 I had a fever of 104, 104.5.

00:57:54.000 It was pretty high.

00:57:55.000 And I felt really terrible.

00:57:57.000 And several people said, Blake, you need to take ivermectin.

00:58:00.000 It's the miracle cure.

00:58:01.000 And I said, I'm good.

00:58:03.000 And you know what?

00:58:04.000 The next day, I also felt completely better.

00:58:06.000 So, you know, there's different outcomes to this.

00:58:10.000 But if people want to get it, like I said, there's no evidence it's harmful.

00:58:13.000 So if you want to take it, Andrew will have to be able to do that.

00:58:16.000 We were really worried about Tyler.

00:58:17.000 It was two weeks.

00:58:18.000 And all of a sudden, Tyler sent a message and he was like, Hey, I'm really worried I'm not good.

00:58:22.000 And I was like, okay, mobilize somebody.

00:58:25.000 I remember this.

00:58:26.000 It was not a change.

00:58:27.000 It's not a joke.

00:58:28.000 And I was like, this is really bad.

00:58:29.000 It was two weeks.

00:58:30.000 I remember Tyler said, quote, I'm going to declare war against China over this.

00:58:34.000 Remember?

00:58:34.000 Yeah.

00:58:35.000 He said, I'm invading China.

00:58:36.000 I was really weird that Tyler wouldn't be able to take part in our insurrection that we were, of course, planning.

00:58:42.000 Jack, this was after all of that.

00:58:44.000 Oh, this was after.

00:58:45.000 No, it was the other end.

00:58:46.000 The other ends.

00:58:47.000 Yeah.

00:58:48.000 I don't know what you're talking about.

00:58:49.000 Twc.health/slash CJ.

00:58:51.000 That is TWC.health slash CJ.

00:58:54.000 I have some on hand, guys.

00:58:56.000 I'm telling you right now.

00:58:57.000 If you're going to end up, you'll be.

00:58:59.000 And that was the thing.

00:59:00.000 I wasn't like short of breath or anything.

00:59:02.000 I just kept taking my, I took my temperature.

00:59:04.000 I didn't even know.

00:59:05.000 I bet a bunch of people, a lot of old people died because they just didn't even know anything was wrong with them.

00:59:11.000 And they had a crazy high temperature for multiple days and died.

00:59:14.000 And if it would have taken my Ivermectin, they probably wouldn't have been fine.

00:59:16.000 All right, let's get to the next topic here, which I will lead on because I think I've been the second.

00:59:21.000 You guys all played, except Andrew needed a week off.

00:59:23.000 Poor Andrew.

00:59:24.000 Andrew was the beginning of the clip.

00:59:27.000 Andrew had people that were texting.

00:59:29.000 I can't imagine.

00:59:30.000 I can't imagine Andrew's phone this week of people that had no idea he was involved in politics and he was getting emails and phone calls and text messages.

00:59:39.000 I thought you were a good person, Andrew.

00:59:40.000 You live in Santa Barbara.

00:59:41.000 Andrew, how dare you?

00:59:43.000 Our kids can't play together anymore.

00:59:45.000 And so just by, we'll get this.

00:59:47.000 So just so everyone knows, this program, Thought Crime, I think was the most talked about internet show of the week, right?

00:59:54.000 20 million views.

00:59:56.000 Andrew's face everywhere.

00:59:58.000 20 million.

00:59:59.000 By the way, not only that, we had the number one live stream in the country back on Tuesday evening for the New Hampshire primary.

01:00:04.000 And again, I didn't say anything controversial.

01:00:07.000 It really isn't because what I was saying was completely true.

01:00:12.000 However, it wasn't the whole point I was making.

01:00:15.000 If you listen carefully, the point I was making is that DEI creates unwholesome thoughts. 0.99

01:00:20.000 Not that I like those thoughts, not that I think everyone knew the intentionally act stupid.

01:00:27.000 But that was the point I was making is not a controversial one. 0.96

01:00:29.000 Is I said DEI actually makes us worse people.

01:00:32.000 And then it makes you look the world through a hyper-racialized lens and it makes you ask things you otherwise wouldn't ask. 0.50

01:00:39.000 Now, I got tons of backup and private encouragement and more than almost anything in a long time.

01:00:43.000 And it hasn't phased me.

01:00:43.000 And I just want to thank Jordan Peterson.

01:00:45.000 I want to thank Matt Walsh.

01:00:46.000 I want to thank Tim Poole.

01:00:48.000 I want to thank Candace Owens.

01:00:49.000 I won't forget it.

01:00:50.000 You guys unprompted came to my defense and there was a Allie B. Stuckey.

01:00:55.000 And viewers like you.

01:00:56.000 And viewers like you.

01:00:58.000 And so I will let's play the tape here, but I want to just be clear.

01:01:02.000 I don't even, we'll play all three tapes.

01:01:05.000 These Krassenstein brothers, who are these crooks?

01:01:08.000 I mean, I just, I don't understand. 1.00

01:01:09.000 They are liars.

01:01:10.000 So they're so those guys, like, and they just kind of play a role on Twitter that I think is necessary for, you know, or not necessary, but I guess there's a demand for, right? 0.98

01:01:23.000 That they play the left-wing trolls.

01:01:26.000 They lie.

01:01:26.000 Like, sort of, they, they just, they just, right, right, right.

01:01:29.000 But what I'm saying is no matter what happens, they will take the most extreme left-wing position and then they use that to try to go viral on Twitter or on X, whatever it is.

01:01:38.000 So it does, they don't even necessarily like personally believe any of the stuff.

01:01:41.000 They're just trying to get the left and the resistance to retweet them.

01:01:45.000 They used to sell books, like children's books about Robert Mueller and stuff with like his shirt off.

01:01:49.000 It was really weird.

01:01:50.000 All right, let's play cut 81, please.

01:02:26.000 So you guys piggybacked off of me because you knew what I was saying.

01:02:31.000 Because what I was saying is that DEI creates and fosters sinful, unwholesome thought patterns.

01:02:40.000 Because when they say we're going to hire people based on race and not competency, and so you start to just say, you know, what's going on here?

01:02:47.000 Blake, you're part of this.

01:02:48.000 This has gone so viral.

01:02:50.000 It's like I said, 22 million people have seen it on.

01:02:53.000 It's what I said at the end.

01:02:54.000 This is the reality the left has created that they craved.

01:02:58.000 They want a reality in which your skin color matters for getting hired, for getting jobs.

01:03:03.000 And so the natural reaction you have if you have a brain is, well, if they're getting hired based on race, then they're not getting hired based on ability.

01:03:13.000 And if they're preferring one race, that race will need less ability. 0.52

01:03:17.000 So if I have them in a job, they will have a higher likelihood of not being qualified for it.

01:03:24.000 And it's basically true that.

01:03:27.000 Right.

01:03:28.000 The inverse is also true then if you see a white male, like I was saying, you know, with a guy like the name of John Smith, you know, or, you know, you know, Andrew or Chad or Charlie or Blake or Tyler, right?

01:03:44.000 Then the only way that that person could have got there is through extreme merit.

01:03:49.000 Yeah.

01:03:50.000 And so I just, I want to make sure the point that I was making is everybody missed it, is that DEI creates worse people and it creates a generation or a country to think in a way that we otherwise would not have thought or that I never would have had that thought growing up.

01:04:07.000 But when you prioritize the hiring of race and your life is in suspension at 35,000 feet, you say, boy, I hope he's qualified.

01:04:19.000 I hope that's not a diversity hobby. 1.00

01:04:21.000 You can instantly imagine this.

01:04:22.000 If you just think, what did we have in the past, you know, hundreds of years ago in Europe?

01:04:26.000 Well, you had social classes of like nobility and commoners and such.

01:04:30.000 And you can read old stories where, oh, well, you know, this guy only got this job because he's from an elite family of nobles or whatever.

01:04:36.000 And that's why they're hired for this.

01:04:38.000 And oh, shocker, you know, if you're drawing from a pool that's smaller and gets preferential political treatment, they're less qualified for things.

01:04:45.000 And we're kind of just creating new noble classes today or a new caste system, if you want, where, yeah, if you give rank ordering to how good people are based on what their sex is, what their sexual orientation is, what their race is, and certain people who have the right combination of factors are vastly preferred for every job, every promotion, every application slot at a university.

01:05:09.000 Then, yeah, anyone who has a brain, which apparently excludes a lot of liberals, will notice what pattern that creates.

01:05:17.000 Yes.

01:05:18.000 And this will then flow into our next topic, which is the only thing you can do in response to this, because the logical reasoning is airtight and so obvious, is they just actually have to have a psychotic break.

01:05:32.000 Like they have, people were having mental breakdowns about this on Twitter, which is why we're very bluntly going to bully one specific person.

01:05:41.000 But I just want to finish with this, which is it hasn't phased me at all.

01:05:44.000 I have been blown away and encouraged by all of your support.

01:05:47.000 And honestly, just kind of the people of the conservative movement, some who I talk to, some who I don't talk to, completely unprompted, getting into the arena and defending me.

01:05:56.000 I'm told a lot of people attacked me as well.

01:05:58.000 I don't care about that.

01:05:58.000 That happens every single day.

01:06:00.000 But what I said was true. 0.97

01:06:02.000 And Matt Walsh did a whole video on it.

01:06:03.000 Candace Owens did a whole podcast on it.

01:06:05.000 Jordan Peterson set out a bunch of tweets on it, which was very encouraging.

01:06:08.000 It means a lot to me because what I said was 100% true.

01:06:12.000 And the essence, which everybody missed, is how DEI influences thought patterns and actually creates more racial resentment, not healing and unity.

01:06:22.000 With that, Tyler, do you have a final thought?

01:06:23.000 I was just going to say this.

01:06:25.000 After your stuff came out, I started just like researching articles and things like that.

01:06:28.000 There was an article that actually was released last year about, oh, it was how racial diversity in TV commercials backfires.

01:06:37.000 And it was on this topic, which is exactly the same line of the point you were making, which is, who better than to look at the commercial, the marketers, the marketing agencies who have backed away from DEI because they realize that it's not genuine.

01:06:51.000 So immediately after George Foy.

01:06:54.000 And they started.

01:06:55.000 Does it create more racism?

01:06:56.000 Is what they're saying?

01:06:57.000 The research that's put is that people actually resent the black actors that were included in the commercials that they were included in.

01:07:06.000 So you're exactly right.

01:07:08.000 The point that you're making is that you're actually increasing.

01:07:11.000 Everyone, all the left completely missed it, right?

01:07:14.000 They acted as if I'd never fly in a plane with a black pilot.

01:07:16.000 Well, this is a study that's done by libs that run, that are trying to make money off commercials. 0.72

01:07:21.000 They're like, oh, yeah, you get actual increased resentment from consumers when you just stick in a black guy in a commercial just because of DEI. 0.55

01:07:30.000 That's such a great point.

01:07:31.000 And, you know, people said, oh, my goodness, is the most racist thing I ever heard.

01:07:35.000 And I said, wait a second.

01:07:36.000 If all of a sudden the pilot said, you know, yeah, I had 30 years in the Air Force and I won all these awards.

01:07:41.000 I'd say, great, take me away.

01:07:42.000 Bombs away.

01:07:44.000 But however, we're seeing that they're hiring every time, right, Blake?

01:07:48.000 Every time affirmative action is implemented, what do we find? 0.72

01:07:50.000 You have to lower standards.

01:07:52.000 Every time.

01:07:52.000 If you didn't have to lower standards, you wouldn't be doing this.

01:07:55.000 Yes.

01:07:56.000 I have a good analogy.

01:07:57.000 One time I went and visited Europe and I hung out with a guy that was a senator to the Romanian parliament.

01:08:01.000 I was the American.

01:08:03.000 I was like the American in the group.

01:08:05.000 And they just brought me along because I was an American.

01:08:08.000 And so that was funny because I was an American just to have me in the group.

01:08:12.000 But the entire group resented me.

01:08:14.000 I was just like a token American friend that was there.

01:08:19.000 Nobody actually wanted to hang out with me.

01:08:20.000 Nobody talked to me.

01:08:22.000 Everybody looked at me in that party and went, oh, that guy's just here because he's like the token American comedic relief for this group.

01:08:32.000 It's the same way, like if you were hosting a party and you brought somebody in that was just there just because everyone not knowing that person would be like, why is this person here as part of this party?

01:08:40.000 It's forced.

01:08:41.000 It's force.

01:08:42.000 It's resentment.

01:08:42.000 And it's like the commercial thing is that people, people always will point that out.

01:08:47.000 And you're thinking about that more than the actual activity of life.

01:08:50.000 Yes, it creates more racial consciousness, which they want less of.

01:08:53.000 So whether it's like you're flying on a plane or you're going to a party, when you're watching a commercial, whatever it might be, if it's not genuine, then people are going to focus on that.

01:09:04.000 And if you're focusing on skin color because that you don't understand why that person's there, it's like out of the matrix, then you're going to have problems.

01:09:12.000 You're going to have intrinsic racism.

01:09:14.000 Blake, let's get to the final topic here.

01:09:17.000 Well, so we have a kind of follow-up thing on this.

01:09:21.000 We mentioned a lot of people, we want to get into the aftermath of what we said here.

01:09:25.000 And what happened is, like I said, people online just totally lost their minds over this.

01:09:32.000 And when I say lost their minds, I mean like pointing, sputtering, crying, vomiting, pooping themselves, pulling the poop out of their pants, smearing it on their faces, screaming at the mirror.

01:09:44.000 One of the people doing this was a fellow Jack is also very familiar with.

01:09:48.000 His name is Will Stancil.

01:09:51.000 I'm unfamiliar and uninitiated.

01:09:52.000 Will Stancil, he's got about 70,000 Twitter followers.

01:09:56.000 He is a liberal.

01:09:58.000 You can put him on screen 162.

01:10:01.000 He's, you know, he's got what we might call an IPA bod.

01:10:04.000 I don't know that he's ever done, you know, a bench press or other is a low vitamin D level.

01:10:10.000 Yeah, he doesn't have, you know, not the best physical expression of the genes within his body.

01:10:14.000 And he's a kind of left-wing stats guy, except really far left people hate him because he does all these posts on Twitter about how Biden's economy is great.

01:10:22.000 Everyone loves it.

01:10:23.000 And I think he's pro-Israel.

01:10:25.000 And so he's, you know, made the really big Gaza nutty people mad. 1.00

01:10:27.000 But he also just came totally unglued about this entire stuff with DEI and pilots.

01:10:34.000 And one guy who was defending us was a guy we've had on the show, Steve Saylor.

01:10:38.000 He's written a lot about the pilot stuff.

01:10:40.000 And we also discussed this thing about drowning last week.

01:10:43.000 And he got in this running battle with everyone.

01:10:48.000 And, you know, Jack can elaborate on this, but he essentially just had for about two days.

01:10:52.000 He's been on Twitter all day.

01:10:53.000 Just it's probably still going.

01:10:55.000 It's still going.

01:10:56.000 He's tweeted probably like 100 plus times, I'd say.

01:11:00.000 And just saying things.

01:11:02.000 I actually finished, I think I finished our last episode saying, I think I said it very quickly, but I said, you know, shout out to Steve Saylor, the godfather of thought crime.

01:11:13.000 And, you know, we'd been discussing his drowning article.

01:11:16.000 And, you know, we, we sort of always talk about, you know, these various things and DEI and everything.

01:11:21.000 And so that, you know, I just kind of said, shout out to the godfather of thought crime.

01:11:25.000 Little did I know that, um, so Charlie, this guy, Will Stancil, basically had been commenting on the clip that went viral, loses his mind over it.

01:11:34.000 And then Saylor pops in.

01:11:35.000 I don't know if he watched our full episode and saw the shout out, but has just been pummeling these people with stats and facts and figures and studies and real-world empirical examples of all of the things that we've been talking about.

01:11:53.000 And it's, it's quite literally just, I mean, this, this guy, Will Stancil, I think his brains are going to start seeping out of his nostrils at some point here.

01:12:02.000 His head, his head might actually physically explode.

01:12:05.000 And so some of the stuff that's hilarious, like 158, he's like, let me be clear.

01:12:11.000 If you follow or respect Steve Saylor, unfollow me and block me. 0.97

01:12:16.000 He is an unreconstructed racist creep. 1.00

01:12:20.000 And I hope he's miserable every second of his worthless life. 1.00

01:12:26.000 Words do not exist to express the depths of my contempt for this oozing postule of a human being. 0.99

01:12:36.000 And that one, that's part of his obsession that Steve Saylor is this extremely miserable person, which I've met Steve Saylor.

01:12:44.000 Other people have met Steve Saylor.

01:12:45.000 You've met Steve Saylor.

01:12:47.000 He's essentially like your genial uncle, a genial dad kind of guy.

01:12:51.000 He likes golf.

01:12:52.000 He likes baseball.

01:12:53.000 He likes blogging about stuff on the internet.

01:12:55.000 He's a pretty cheerful dude.

01:12:56.000 He does not exude misery.

01:12:58.000 Whereas Will Stancil definitely exudes it.

01:13:01.000 And the reason we've had on the bottom of the screen here hick libs, it's because of this tweet, which he just perfectly represents this concept.

01:13:09.000 He tweeted this during the whole meltdown today. 0.99

01:13:12.000 I'm a southerner and grew up with a million of these dumb hicks. 1.00

01:13:18.000 They're racist. 1.00

01:13:19.000 And so to them, everything in the entire world can be explained by racism being entirely true.

01:13:27.000 And so what a hick lib is, and Jack can elaborate on this too, is there's a type of liberal who what they did is they grew up somewhere usually in middle America, could be the south, could be the Midwest, could, you know, could be a small city, small town.

01:13:43.000 They probably had loving parents.

01:13:45.000 They probably had functional public schools.

01:13:47.000 It was probably a pretty nice place to grow up.

01:13:49.000 But they thought everyone, they were pretty smart.

01:13:51.000 They're usually pretty bright.

01:13:52.000 This guy's got, as he told everyone, multiple postgraduate degrees.

01:13:56.000 They're pretty bright and they think everyone around them is too much of a simpleton.

01:14:00.000 They go to church.

01:14:01.000 They're like, they probably vote for Republicans.

01:14:03.000 They believe in God.

01:14:05.000 And they're not as worldly as them.

01:14:07.000 And they sort of signal that they belong in DC.

01:14:10.000 They belong in the elites by talking about how they grew up with these people. 0.99

01:14:14.000 And they're so disgusting. 0.98

01:14:16.000 And don't worry, I'm so much better than those people are. 0.99

01:14:19.000 I left that behind.

01:14:20.000 And then they go on Twitter and they have mental breakdowns over whether we should have affirmative action for pilots.

01:14:26.000 Yeah, so this is this is very close, closely aligned with the TV show Yellowstone.

01:14:31.000 There's a lot of memes that we've done about this.

01:14:32.000 I've been doing for about a year now.

01:14:34.000 A lot of people have done, Mr. Gribb has done this one of these as well.

01:14:38.000 That guy, Oliver Anthony, is a great example of this, someone who kind of has the, you know, they have the sort of like southern Midwestern Appalachia kind of aesthetics.

01:14:47.000 You know, they seem like the kind of person that would be like a Trump supporter, but then they start talking and you realize, oh, wait a minute, this guy's like a lefty.

01:14:55.000 What's going on here?

01:14:56.000 And yeah, Blake, it's exactly right.

01:14:58.000 You know, they usually have done some time in like one of the cities back east or they, you know, they feel like they should be among the rich men of Richmond.

01:15:07.000 And they just really bitter.

01:15:09.000 And so like the bitter southerner is actually the name of one of the hicclib publications out there.

01:15:13.000 That's just pretty much their banner publication.

01:15:16.000 And you see this a lot, by the way, in the country music world.

01:15:19.000 You see a lot of country music, huge names that'll come out.

01:15:23.000 People associated will, they'll be from like West Texas or they'll be from like Nashville.

01:15:28.000 And then they come up and they go on TV and they start espousing these extremely left-wing views, particularly on race, but also on economics and things like this.

01:15:37.000 And you're kind of wondering, like, wait a minute, everybody I know from that area is like, you know, as red as the day is long.

01:15:44.000 So what's what's the deal?

01:15:45.000 Versus me, we're like, I'm, I'm like, whatever the opposite of that is because I'm from, I'm like, I'm like from an East Coast urban area, but I, you know, I turned out like this.

01:15:54.000 So I'm like, I'm whatever the opposite of that is.

01:15:56.000 That's what I am.

01:15:58.000 And I definitely don't listen to like, I don't think any, we had that whole thing where none of us really listen to country music, except I think Andrew.

01:16:06.000 And, you know, we're, we're not your typical, I guess, like conservative podcast because of that.

01:16:12.000 But whatever, right?

01:16:13.000 You know, we, we've come to these ideas because we realized that the places that we're from, everything was breaking down and falling apart.

01:16:18.000 And so this guy, Will Stancil, very self-loathing, very much hates the people that he grew up around, very much hates their entire way of being and just thinks that he should be in control so that he can, you know, progress them into a world where they accept people who are different, where they accept immigrants, where they accept refugees from Africa and the third world and all of, you know, Blake, obviously, as you've talked about, this all fits together.

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01:17:36.000 Let's go around the horn, guys.

01:17:37.000 We're running out of time here.

01:17:38.000 I also got to be up at like 5 a.m. to do Megan Kelly tomorrow morning.

01:17:41.000 So I have to get home and do a bunch of stuff.

01:17:43.000 Jack, final thoughts.

01:17:46.000 We're winning.

01:17:47.000 And the main thing of this is no black pilling. 0.99

01:17:50.000 No freaking black pilling out there. 0.87

01:17:52.000 We are this close to victory on so many fronts. 0.99

01:17:56.000 And so if I see any black pillars out there, I am going to trap them in quicksand. 0.99

01:18:01.000 Moral of the story: don't let them boss you around.

01:18:03.000 Don't let them boss you around on the border.

01:18:05.000 Don't let them tell you, oh, you're speaker of the house.

01:18:07.000 You can't go do a camping trip to the border.

01:18:09.000 And don't let them tell you that you have to feel comfortable when you have like a pilot who doesn't seem entirely there.

01:18:17.000 Tyler, why don't we close out by previewing Monday?

01:18:21.000 Yeah, I mean, Monday, we've got 70 of the top 100 county chairs that matter in America coming together to Vegas to meet with the largest grassroots organizations in the country.

01:18:33.000 We've got Charlie Kirk, we got Donald Trump Jr., we've got Steve Bannon, we've got Jack Pesobic speaking, we've got Mike Lindell, we've got Scott Pressler.

01:18:42.000 We have the fight that we're bringing right to the doorstep of the RNC saying these are all the things that we should be doing at the Republican Party that you're not doing.

01:18:52.000 And, you know, I think I hope it takes notice.

01:18:55.000 I hope the grassroots is enlivened, they're enriched by it, and that we can actually go back to our home states and win.

01:19:01.000 It's going to be amazing coming on Monday.

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01:19:18.000 God bless, guys.

01:19:25.000 All right.

01:19:27.000 We'll get the other one next week.

01:19:28.000 Yeah, I got to do two hours with Megan and then three hours live on air.

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01:19:34.000 Thank you.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - January 27, 2024

THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 30 — Civil War, Texas-Style? What's a Hicklib? Barbie Oscar Snub?

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