The Charlie Kirk Show - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 33 — The Big Fani Whammy? Kill Pedos? U.S. Food vs. The World?

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00:01:25.000 Okay, everybody, if there was ever a day that was made for this program, it is today, February 15th, year of our Lord, 2024.

00:01:34.000 We have Blake Neff.

00:01:35.000 Hello, Master Historian, Tyler Boyer, ballot chaser extraordinaire.

00:01:39.000 Happy to be here, Charlie.

00:01:41.000 And Jack Pesobic, who's on Lent, and he gave up being cruel for Lent.

00:01:45.000 Is that right?

00:01:47.000 I gave up being cruel online to people.

00:01:50.000 So I have to be nice to everyone online for 40 days until Easter Sunday.

00:01:56.000 And so this, of course, includes all podcasts, all on-air content.

00:02:02.000 So that includes anyone we talk about, all the co-hosts.

00:02:06.000 I have to be nice.

00:02:07.000 Just to be sweet.

00:02:08.000 Tyler said one of the funniest things in the chat.

00:02:10.000 He said, it feels as if 2020 will never end.

00:02:13.000 All of this is just this overflow.

00:02:16.000 Right, Blake?

00:02:17.000 This is not the topic for today, but it is an interesting thing.

00:02:20.000 It's the never-ending.

00:02:22.000 It's been this non-stop connective thread from like February of 2020 till today.

00:02:26.000 It just hasn't stopped.

00:02:27.000 It's like the old, I remember the joke where it's like, I've been alive for four decades, you know, the 90s, the zeros, the 10s, and March.

00:02:36.000 Yes, it just hasn't stopped.

00:02:38.000 It's been one non-stop thing.

00:02:40.000 So in this next chapter in Saga, I feel as if this is, you know, what, season 28 of Donald Trump being the luckiest man alive?

00:02:50.000 It is truly unbelievable.

00:02:51.000 No, it is season 28 of just, if I were to make it the Netflix special, just called The Lucky Man.

00:02:57.000 It is a picture with him a thumbs up and a MAGA hat because this is one of the more lucky developments in the history of the civilization.

00:02:57.000 Yeah.

00:02:57.000 Right.

00:03:05.000 I feel like Donald Trump personally disapproves the concept of entropy, you know, that physics thing.

00:03:10.000 You know, the world advances towards greater simplicity because Donald Trump completely defies all of that.

00:03:15.000 That's right.

00:03:15.000 So Blake, for those of the uninitiated that haven't turned on their television all day, what happened in Fulton County?

00:03:20.000 Yeah, so I assume those people must have given up TV for Lent or something.

00:03:24.000 I don't know why they're watching this show, if so.

00:03:26.000 But so Fulton County, the left staked a lot of hopes on this one.

00:03:32.000 It was the one I feel like they got the most personal satisfaction from the weird thrill.

00:03:37.000 Yeah, they really liked the idea that Fulton County, which symbolized the most shocking development of that evening, that Georgia was able to flip blue.

00:03:46.000 Yes.

00:03:47.000 All of these things. 1.00

00:03:48.000 And Stacey A. Trump complained about it.

00:03:50.000 And then he was repudiated.

00:03:52.000 And now, Fanny Willis, the DA of Fulton County, where Atlanta is, was going to criminally charge Trump for his election interference of trying to call members of the state legislature.

00:04:03.000 The indictment was incredible.

00:04:04.000 It was literally criminalizing him that he called lawmakers and said that they should go to a special session.

00:04:10.000 I think part of the criminal indictment was that he encouraged people to tune into the television, I believe.

00:04:17.000 There was all sorts of wild stuff.

00:04:19.000 Very strange.

00:04:20.000 And so she's going to indict Trump for all these bad things they did and a million co-conspirators.

00:04:25.000 There's 18 or 19 people involved.

00:04:28.000 And lo and behold, out of nowhere, we get this filing from one of Trump's co-defendants.

00:04:38.000 And this filing says, hey, you know, Fannie Willis, you've kind of done some bad stuff.

00:04:45.000 And it kind of seems like a Hail Mary seems really wild.

00:04:47.000 Okay.

00:04:49.000 For just to interject, people do these motions all the time.

00:04:52.000 As Hail Marys, right?

00:04:52.000 For sure.

00:04:54.000 You know, bail me out, half court shot, right?

00:04:56.000 It just so happened.

00:04:56.000 Yeah.

00:04:57.000 And it seemed, there wasn't a lot of proof in it initially.

00:04:59.000 I remember it popping up.

00:05:01.000 And you were a little skeptical.

00:05:02.000 Yeah, I was like, well, there's not, you know, they don't have the receipts in here.

00:05:05.000 This is a pretty aggressive allegation to make, but it's definitely, there's not proof in the filing. 1.00

00:05:10.000 They couldn't be this stupid is the thinking. 1.00

00:05:13.000 And, well, they were. 1.00

00:05:15.000 They were that stupid, it seems. 1.00

00:05:17.000 And corrupt and just craven. 1.00

00:05:19.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:05:19.000 Just awful. 1.00

00:05:20.000 And, you know, I hope I would say something about, you know, giving up porn for Lent or something because it was a very kind of pornographic display today.

00:05:28.000 It was very graphic.

00:05:29.000 And by the way, Nathan Wade was the one that was inviting.

00:05:33.000 Very titillating.

00:05:34.000 Yeah, he was the one that was inviting the sexual conversation.

00:05:37.000 He was being you guys are just trying to get me to keep it on right now.

00:05:42.000 I'm not going to do that.

00:05:43.000 Keep fasting, Jack.

00:05:44.000 And so it was at one point, the cross-examiner asked Nathan Wade, well, did you have a relationship? 0.78

00:05:51.000 And Nathan Wade said, Do you mean did I have sexual intercourse with it? 0.74

00:05:54.000 I'm like, okay, bro, like, here we go. 0.68

00:05:56.000 And then we're getting into this idea of, well, it matters what the definition of is is.

00:06:01.000 And like, we're almost there, right, Blake?

00:06:03.000 We're almost at, like, was there touching?

00:06:05.000 Was there rubbing?

00:06:06.000 I mean, it's really in the matter.

00:06:10.000 Did you ever have flesh touch with Miss Fanny's flesh? 0.92

00:06:14.000 That's where we're at, right?

00:06:16.000 And so then there's so many, we got to play some of these people.

00:06:20.000 Can we play the cabin?

00:06:21.000 Like, the cabin one.

00:06:22.000 Yeah, what's the cabin one?

00:06:24.000 So the cabin one is let's go.

00:06:26.000 Let's play a clip 106.

00:06:29.000 For the record, this is one of the greatest pieces of tape in the history of politics.

00:06:34.000 You remember booking a cabin.

00:06:36.000 I booked lots of cabins.

00:06:38.000 We put lots of cabins.

00:06:42.000 Did you go to a cabin with Miss Willis ever?

00:06:46.000 He books up.

00:06:47.000 Ever.

00:06:50.000 11,000, 2, 1,000.

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00:06:58.000 1,000.

00:07:00.000 Nice tie that he has.

00:07:03.000 What is his tailor?

00:07:05.000 Great tailor that he must have.

00:07:09.000 Look how well fitting his dress is.

00:07:10.000 21 seconds.

00:07:12.000 That went 21 seconds.

00:07:14.000 He freeze.

00:07:15.000 He's wearing right there.

00:07:16.000 No, he didn't freeze.

00:07:17.000 Here's what he was doing. 0.99

00:07:18.000 He said, I've brought a lot of women to cabins. 0.81

00:07:21.000 Is that Fanny? 0.98

00:07:22.000 Can I go to prison for this? 1.00

00:07:24.000 Was that a woman with a big fanny? 1.00

00:07:25.000 It's like Giannis trying to take a free throw. 0.96

00:07:28.000 And it's like, which answer is more jail?

00:07:31.000 Like, if he tells the truth, yes, right?

00:07:34.000 Or if he lies and says no.

00:07:36.000 And it was truly, truly astonishing.

00:07:40.000 And just every layer of it, like, you know, maybe they'll somehow get away with it.

00:07:46.000 It seems like they thought, okay, our best calculated strategy here is to say, yes, we were in a relationship.

00:07:52.000 Yes, we spent time together.

00:07:53.000 Yes, we went on vacation together.

00:07:55.000 Yes, I paid for it with my business card that goes to my firm, which is being paid by the taxpayers of Fulton County, but she reimbursed me.

00:08:03.000 And how does she reimburse me?

00:08:05.000 All in cash.

00:08:06.000 This is where it gets really interesting, right?

00:08:08.000 Because they thought they could get away with a lie.

00:08:12.000 It's obvious, right?

00:08:13.000 They thought that there was no reimbursement.

00:08:15.000 I mean, it's just, it's so obvious.

00:08:17.000 So then they start drilling down.

00:08:19.000 Well, where'd you get the cash from?

00:08:22.000 And Jack, are you allowed to contribute to this, or are you just, are you just a bystander at this point?

00:08:27.000 I, I mean, no, I can, I can comment on whether or not it was good testimony, right?

00:08:32.000 Like, like, just because, just because I have to be like, just because I can't be mean about it, like, I could certainly give an algebra.

00:08:38.000 She's been a great one.

00:08:40.000 And, and the analysis.

00:08:41.000 No, I can make this.

00:08:42.000 I could do this.

00:08:42.000 All right.

00:08:43.000 I can do this.

00:08:44.000 I could do this.

00:08:46.000 This testimony was not good.

00:08:49.000 No point.

00:08:50.000 This was definitely not the type of testimony that you would expect from people who are not only currently like prosecutors of people that are prosecuting and not just like take Trump out of it, right?

00:09:05.000 Just prosecuting any criminal at all.

00:09:08.000 These are not the people that you want to have that power in your society because, as you say, they don't seem like, and Wade, and we haven't even gotten to Willis's testimony yet, but it just doesn't seem like they prepared.

00:09:20.000 It doesn't seem like they asked, they went over any of the possible questions that they would be asked.

00:09:25.000 It doesn't feel like they read the brief or even, Blake, to your point, it doesn't feel like they read any of the accusations that came out of Mike Roman's testimony, the great Mike Roman.

00:09:34.000 Or, by the way, it's like, and by this guy, this guy Wade is being divorced right now.

00:09:38.000 And so a lot of this is actually a function of the divorce hearings because, as you say, the receipts weren't in Roman's testimony.

00:09:45.000 But then, like, two days later, I mean, we're in like very much, I can't say it, a reality show scenario, let's just say, of Fulton County.

00:09:57.000 And so the divorce court is where we get those receipts.

00:10:02.000 And so it's like, has this guy even been paying attention to the, I question whether he has been paying attention to the proceedings to which he is a party?

00:10:10.000 Yeah.

00:10:10.000 And Jay, Blake, go ahead.

00:10:12.000 No, no, it's just, I had the thought earlier.

00:10:17.000 It is just truly stupendous that they have built up this massive monolith.

00:10:23.000 She destroys.

00:10:23.000 She's supposed to be the one.

00:10:24.000 Yeah, they had the headline.

00:10:25.000 We showed the headline.

00:10:26.000 Miss Magazine. 0.97

00:10:28.000 This is, they're like, it's so fitting that she's going to lead the charge.

00:10:31.000 And then it specifically is blowing up because of her.

00:10:35.000 Not even it incidentally is failing, but she's doing it. 0.79

00:10:39.000 She screwed it up.

00:10:39.000 And in such a comical way, like just the most, oh, we got a free piggy bank from the taxpayers.

00:10:46.000 Oh, I'll just, I'll hire my boyfriend and we can give him all of this money and he can bill 24 hours a day.

00:10:52.000 Why not?

00:10:52.000 We'll just bill 24 hours a day and money everywhere.

00:10:57.000 And then we're going to fly to Belize and we're going to go to that tattoo parlor and we're going to go to that massage place.

00:11:02.000 Oh, and Aruba.

00:11:04.000 Aruba.

00:11:05.000 Like Cut 105.

00:11:08.000 Recently retired and I decided to take my mother on a cruise.

00:11:14.000 Okay.

00:11:16.000 And the second leg, after the cruise concluded, D.A. Willis and I went to Aruba.

00:11:25.000 So that was our one trip, if you will.

00:11:29.000 Okay.

00:11:31.000 Now we would play the Beach Boys song, but we're not allowed to.

00:11:35.000 We can like sing it.

00:11:36.000 Bermuda, Bahama.

00:11:36.000 Aruba.

00:11:39.000 I thought we could play it if we comment on it.

00:11:41.000 I don't know.

00:11:42.000 The rules are all.

00:11:43.000 Whatever.

00:11:44.000 Haters are going to hate, man.

00:11:45.000 Are the Beach Boys still?

00:11:46.000 I think they're still alive.

00:11:47.000 Didn't their copyright expire by now?

00:11:49.000 Sadly, I think all copyrights are active while the original creator is alive.

00:11:53.000 And there are allegedly still beast boys, Beach Boys who are alive.

00:11:59.000 We like the Beach Boys.

00:12:00.000 A lot of those guys are still conservative, I think.

00:12:03.000 So, where is this going to end?

00:12:04.000 I mean, and by the way, CNN is doing their best.

00:12:06.000 They say this on the front page of CNN.

00:12:08.000 They say highlights from Fannie Willis's fiery testimony.

00:12:11.000 Fiery.

00:12:12.000 It was mostly peaceful.

00:12:13.000 I mean, it was fiery in the sense that this project they built up is burning down very quickly. 0.72

00:12:19.000 Oh, by the way, if you dare criticize Fannie Willis having tons of cash at home, you're a racist.

00:12:25.000 What's like play cut 133?

00:12:29.000 I thought her portrayal of why it is that she pays for things in cash and has lots of cash on hand was very compelling.

00:12:36.000 Basically, it was a life lesson she learned from her father and then sort of joked about the way that she was raised by that old black man that she referred to.

00:12:44.000 Yeah, basically, it's black culture, is what Fannie Willis's defense is.

00:12:50.000 It's like so depressing. 1.00

00:12:51.000 And she did that in the church.

00:12:52.000 And MSNBC is just buying that.

00:12:54.000 And she did that, you know, she stood up in that church and said, you know, these people attacking me.

00:12:58.000 I think she was still denying the relate.

00:13:00.000 She was either denying it, or that was when she admitted it.

00:13:03.000 But she said, you know, all the attacks were based on race there.

00:13:06.000 And of course, that's part of what's so upsetting about this: you do your personal bad behavior and you're just going to drag everyone in your culture with you down with it.

00:13:16.000 It's disgusting to do that. 0.89

00:13:18.000 Yeah.

00:13:18.000 Michael Vicks, that was Michael Vick's defense with the dog fighting.

00:13:22.000 Yeah.

00:13:23.000 Was it that he had a bunch of cash around the house to go pay people for pit bulls?

00:13:28.000 You don't remember this?

00:13:29.000 No, his defense for Michael Vick's defense for dog fighting was that this is part of black culture. 0.66

00:13:37.000 And he was like, and it was just strange because he was the one saying that it was, that he was the one trying to racialize it when it clearly was something that he had been, you know, obviously criticized by a lot of other teammates who also happened to be black.

00:13:53.000 So it was like, no, why are you trying to play the race card to get out of your own bad behavior?

00:13:58.000 That's all I'm saying.

00:14:00.000 Let's play Fanny. 0.56

00:14:01.000 By the way, there's a little disagreement of when the relationship ended.

00:14:04.000 Is it still ongoing?

00:14:05.000 Play cut 124.

00:14:08.000 She asked about a personal relationship.

00:14:09.000 She asked when the romantic relationship ended. 0.68

00:14:11.000 That's the question.

00:14:13.000 It's sometime in I'd say late summer of 2023.

00:14:18.000 So I don't believe me and this is what you're really asking about.

00:14:22.000 This is the salaciousness of all of this, right?

00:14:24.000 I'm just asking about your romantic relationship.

00:14:26.000 When you stop dating, I ask, I think that me and Mr. Wade, so he's a man.

00:14:34.000 He probably would say June or July.

00:14:38.000 I would say we had a tough conversation in August.

00:14:42.000 Wait, hold on.

00:14:43.000 Did she say because he's a man?

00:14:45.000 Is that what she said?

00:14:47.000 She said, because he's a man.

00:14:49.000 He's a man.

00:14:50.000 She defended his he's virile.

00:14:55.000 She defended his manhood many times, but then called out his manhood for doing the relationship.

00:15:04.000 Do we have the clip?

00:15:05.000 The we broke bread.

00:15:06.000 Do we have that clip?

00:15:07.000 Oh, yeah.

00:15:08.000 That one's going really viral.

00:15:10.000 Let's play cut 118.

00:15:12.000 We'll get that one.

00:15:13.000 Okay.

00:15:14.000 As of May 30th, 2023, you have done a lot, or you had done a lot of entertaining of Miss Willis, had you not?

00:15:23.000 I had done some, yes.

00:15:25.000 And in fact, under your testimony, you would have said that she had also entertained you.

00:15:32.000 Isn't that correct?

00:15:33.000 Yes.

00:15:34.000 She's not your spouse at that time or at any time, correct?

00:15:38.000 That's correct.

00:15:39.000 She's not related to you by blood or marriage, correct?

00:15:42.000 That's correct.

00:15:43.000 But she entertained, right?

00:15:45.000 Yes.

00:15:49.000 Totally believable.

00:15:51.000 No, I see no reason to question this.

00:15:51.000 Entertained.

00:15:53.000 They've never seen whatsoever.

00:15:55.000 Yeah.

00:15:56.000 No, this has been quite entertaining for all of us.

00:15:59.000 Sorry, continue, Blake.

00:16:01.000 Just I think what stands out, you said CNN's trying to cover Ford as desperately.

00:16:07.000 I think this really actually captures the difference between two popular punching bags, which is we have CNN and we have MSNBC.

00:16:14.000 And MSNBC is sort of more left-wing than CNN, but they're also more honest than CNN.

00:16:20.000 And so they actually were having this meltdown.

00:16:22.000 That's a good way of putting it.

00:16:24.000 They were having a meltdown during the day.

00:16:25.000 They're like, she seems to have lied.

00:16:27.000 And if she lied, this is over.

00:16:28.000 And then, but CNN is the more anti-Trump network. 0.92

00:16:32.000 They're very psychotic about it. 0.99

00:16:33.000 They're more delusional. 1.00

00:16:34.000 They're more delusional. 0.98

00:16:35.000 And they do the more insane stuff.

00:16:36.000 You know, they're the ones who have, they hate Trump so much that they'll have a guy on and he'll call Don Lemon the N-word on air and stuff to prove that Trump is bad.

00:16:45.000 It was really bizarre.

00:16:46.000 MSNBC doesn't go quite as insane.

00:16:48.000 Let's see.

00:16:49.000 Where's the, there's so many clips here.

00:16:52.000 MSNBC, they're beginning the eulogy.

00:16:52.000 This is 117.

00:16:55.000 Play cut 117.

00:16:57.000 Legalistic centric and yet so important and fascinating.

00:17:02.000 Don't let the legalese fool you.

00:17:02.000 Right.

00:17:04.000 This is epic.

00:17:05.000 This is monumental.

00:17:06.000 If things are going in the direction we think, Fonnie Willis lied to the court.

00:17:12.000 It's game over for her. 0.99

00:17:13.000 She will be disqualified if they had a relationship prior to when they represented to the court.

00:17:20.000 It's a huge deal.

00:17:21.000 I can't overstate it.

00:17:22.000 Yeah.

00:17:23.000 So without getting too deep into this, Jack, you could look at the basically she's already dead to rights based on just the timeline.

00:17:31.000 Forget the cash and forget the cabins and forget Aruba and forget Belize and forget just the fact that they have perjured themselves based on the relationship window that signed, sealed, and delivered.

00:17:42.000 All the rest is basically entertainment and icing on the cake.

00:17:45.000 Is that correct, Jack?

00:17:46.000 That's exactly right.

00:17:48.000 So there's lots of viral clips.

00:17:50.000 There's lots of memes that are coming out of this that, of course, I have been receiving and yet will not be sharing because again, I have 40 days.

00:17:58.000 I will be nice.

00:18:00.000 So the real meat and potatoes of this, though, is the fact that she lied to the court in not in this hearing, but in a previous filing when she stated there was no relationship prior to his hire at the Fulton, using her power as the Fulton County DA.

00:18:15.000 So essentially when she brought him on for this Trump case, she said there was no relationship prior to this.

00:18:21.000 And now we have documentary evidence that there was a relationship prior.

00:18:25.000 And I think everyone kind of has suspected that anyway, let's put it on the screen while he's talking about.

00:18:32.000 Yes, while she's talking here, put that up.

00:18:34.000 Yep.

00:18:36.000 Keep going, Jack.

00:18:37.000 Okay, yeah.

00:18:38.000 So, so, right.

00:18:39.000 So she, and this, this is, this is, I believe, the, um, the actual questionnaire from earlier.

00:18:44.000 But yeah, she just, she lied to court.

00:18:46.000 So when you, when you make a direct lie to the judge like this, that there was no relationship, then that's it.

00:18:53.000 No household expenses, no cohabitating.

00:18:55.000 And this, and Charlie, to your point, this is why there were so much, there was so much quibbling and so much consternation about, well, and if people had watched the, I got to say, I was in and out of this hearing because I was doing other stuff today because I have like a, you know, this, like a life outside of this.

00:19:13.000 But and it went on for quite some time.

00:19:16.000 And there was a lot of back and forth over what does the phrase cohabitating live?

00:19:22.000 What does or mean?

00:19:23.000 What does the phrase stay?

00:19:25.000 Well, he was staying with me.

00:19:27.000 Well, how long is staying?

00:19:28.000 How long do you have to stay with someone to that to be cohabitating?

00:19:31.000 And just, I mean, you just lied.

00:19:32.000 It's just straight up lied to the court.

00:19:34.000 And I don't think that any judge or any, you know, fancy word games are going to wake their way out of it.

00:19:41.000 You can't trick your way past the judge that you know you like.

00:19:43.000 And I will say, just and I watched probably one-tenth of this.

00:19:47.000 What I saw from the judge is the judge was actually sympathetic to the cross-examiners.

00:19:51.000 There was one moment where the cross-examiner used imprecise language that was obviously a little bit, you know, let's just say, more colorful.

00:20:00.000 He used the word scamper.

00:20:01.000 He's like, oh, did you go down and scamper to the ATM?

00:20:04.000 The judge allowed it.

00:20:05.000 And like, that's unusual, right?

00:20:06.000 Like, usually the judge is like, nope, rephrase, you know, did you go down to the end?

00:20:11.000 The judge was continually very sympathetic to this line of questioning.

00:20:15.000 I think it helps that they're only speaking to the judge in the first place.

00:20:18.000 This isn't a jury trial yet.

00:20:20.000 It's just a hearing.

00:20:21.000 The judge will have to decide on himself.

00:20:23.000 So I mean, I believe, I mean, do we want to make a prediction on this?

00:20:27.000 I mean, the judge does not seem as if sometimes a judge will do a motion like this and he could have just cut it off.

00:20:32.000 Like, I've heard enough.

00:20:33.000 She's fine.

00:20:34.000 He let this thing really bleed.

00:20:37.000 I mean, I almost as if he's setting the table to justify his dismissal of the prosecution.

00:20:46.000 Again, if they dismiss Fanny, it doesn't mean the prosecution is over.

00:20:50.000 It's enormously damaging to its credibility, but they could transfer the case to another DA's office.

00:20:57.000 They could just re-domicile it to a neighboring county or, you know, bring in a special counsel.

00:21:01.000 Other than that takes a lot of time.

00:21:02.000 Anon boyfriends, right? 0.92

00:21:04.000 It would basically delay this past the election almost certainly.

00:21:07.000 Yeah.

00:21:08.000 They have to get caught up to speed, right?

00:21:10.000 And not to mention all the other counties are not going to be as judicious.

00:21:16.000 And you'd need to, you'd quite plausibly need to flush the entire staff.

00:21:20.000 So they'd need months just to get up to speed on the evidence.

00:21:24.000 This would allow them to challenge that it should be dropped because of all these improprieties.

00:21:28.000 It would muck the case.

00:21:29.000 Let me ask you a question.

00:21:30.000 For someone who has already pled guilty, like Jenna Ellis, is she able to reconsider that guilty plea if the prosecutor's taken off the case?

00:21:37.000 Truthfully, I don't know.

00:21:39.000 Jack, do you have any idea?

00:21:40.000 It would depend on the specifics of the deal.

00:21:46.000 It's not impossible, but again, it would have to go, you know, was that written into the deal?

00:21:51.000 Was that something that was agreed to?

00:21:53.000 Was that something that, you know, a good lawyer, by the way, would have put in some clauses like that, for example, or be able to find a way to get around it.

00:22:01.000 But it's going to be tough, right?

00:22:03.000 It's going to be tough.

00:22:04.000 And it wasn't just her, but there were other people who took no, I hope so.

00:22:07.000 And I've obviously like, Charlie, of course, none of this should have been brought in the first place.

00:22:11.000 No, it's this was this was obviously corrupt.

00:22:14.000 And I think that their prior, their pre-existing relationship, and I've tweeted this, and I said, and again, just because I said I can't be mean doesn't mean I can't be truthful.

00:22:21.000 I will be truthful.

00:22:22.000 And it seems to me that this entire case was brought because she was looking at a way to get her own piggy bank out of this, that she would be able to charge the more people she charged, the more money she would be able to requisition, make special allocations from the state government, which, by the way, if you go back to Mike Roman's original allegations on this, that there was a pot of COVID money, which, by the way, would be federal funds.

00:22:45.000 So Chris Ray, where you at, buddy?

00:22:48.000 That the more people she charged, the bigger pot of money there would be.

00:22:52.000 And potentially, it sounds like the bigger kickback she would be able to receive from it.

00:22:56.000 That's what I get out of this hearing.

00:22:59.000 So I just want to say I have a soft spot.

00:23:02.000 And there was a lot of people attacking those that pled guilty already.

00:23:05.000 I have a soft spot for people that don't have a lot of money and they're up against these prosecutors.

00:23:09.000 And I just don't like it.

00:23:12.000 I do hope that there's an opportunity for some of these people to get out of these plea deals.

00:23:16.000 Yeah.

00:23:17.000 And it's so glaring that well, our entire system does rely upon essentially imposing a calculation on people of should I plead guilty even if I truthfully believe I am innocent.

00:23:30.000 No, this was sick.

00:23:31.000 Yeah.

00:23:32.000 The factoring in is not the innocence.

00:23:33.000 The factoring in is, you know, I'll get community service versus 10 years in jail.

00:23:39.000 The penalty, the cost of the trial itself. 0.99

00:23:42.000 And this is the reason why her entire office has to be disqualified. 0.89

00:23:46.000 Right.

00:23:47.000 This is why the message to conservatives, everybody's watching this, they'll go, well, what can I do?

00:23:51.000 What can I say?

00:23:52.000 I was talking to Josh McCoon, who's the chairman of the Georgia GOP today.

00:23:56.000 He was texting me and took time out of his day to message me and ask for help, actually. 0.98

00:24:01.000 So this is the message: her entire office should be and needs to be disqualified because if her entire office is not, then there certainly is no way for those people to reverse out of those plea deals. 0.98

00:24:13.000 Right.

00:24:14.000 And so I don't know all the ins and outs.

00:24:17.000 And somebody that's a much more in tune and somebody has a JD could probably actually tell us.

00:24:22.000 But my understanding would be is probably if they threw the whole thing out and transferred it to a different county, then that would start the whole process over again.

00:24:29.000 Yeah.

00:24:30.000 And so that, and even that county would have to re-look at everybody who's being processed.

00:24:35.000 If the crime didn't commit in their county, they wouldn't there be jurisdictional issues.

00:24:39.000 Well, that's the point is because she has cost herself a problem here, then another county would have to take over, but the other county could make the decision to just drop the whole thing, which now that that's not the way they wanted this whole thing to go, obviously.

00:24:57.000 They wanted this to be in Fulton for a reason.

00:24:59.000 Yeah.

00:24:59.000 Because Fulton's their only hope in the state of Georgia that they this ever would ever have legs.

00:25:04.000 And that's their problem in Arizona: is Maricopa County going to do this to people in Maricopa County?

00:25:11.000 Probably not.

00:25:13.000 You know, they weren't even willing to do it in Wisconsin.

00:25:16.000 So they came up with like a brokered deal.

00:25:19.000 You've got the state going after people in Michigan, but a lot of these counties don't want to get involved.

00:25:25.000 Yeah.

00:25:26.000 And so this was their only, this was their, you want to talk about that, that Hail Mary?

00:25:30.000 This was their Hail Mary.

00:25:31.000 But we need to make sure as conservatives that we're putting the pressure on saying that, you know, this has to, this has to be released.

00:25:37.000 Her whole office has to be removed from this.

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00:26:34.000 Okay, what do we have next?

00:26:36.000 What we have next is we have an interesting story out of the state of Idaho.

00:26:41.000 Oh, this is a good one.

00:26:42.000 Yes.

00:26:42.000 And so we just saw this in the discussion.

00:26:44.000 We thought it'd be fun to talk about.

00:26:46.000 So the Idaho House has just approved House Bill 515.

00:26:51.000 It hasn't become law yet, but it's advancing.

00:26:53.000 And what the bill would do is it would impose the death penalty as a potential penalty in cases of lewd conduct with children under the age of 12 with aggravating circumstances.

00:27:06.000 So aggravated child sexual abuse could be a capital offense in the state of Idaho if they pass this.

00:27:12.000 Now, for the time being, this would not be constitutional because the Supreme Court in a past more liberal time, they banned that.

00:27:22.000 I think Louisiana had that in its laws. 0.73

00:27:24.000 But new Supreme Court, take another shot at it.

00:27:27.000 And so the discussion would be: do we support this, number one?

00:27:31.000 And two, do we support it for anything else?

00:27:33.000 100%.

00:27:33.000 I mean, now I want to be clear: my death penalty views have changed over the years.

00:27:38.000 The only reason I'm hesitant on the death penalty, the only reason, and is that sometimes we execute people that were truly innocent.

00:27:46.000 It's not as many as you might think.

00:27:47.000 It's probably 40 or 50, right?

00:27:48.000 There's the Innocence Project.

00:27:50.000 That's a real thing.

00:27:51.000 Number two, it exists, Jack.

00:27:54.000 It exists.

00:27:55.000 We have killed people that have been exonerated later, but it's not as much as they make it seem, but it's a real thing.

00:28:00.000 Is it an op?

00:28:02.000 Is it a Kim Kardashian op? 0.99

00:28:04.000 We have for sure killed him. 0.94

00:28:07.000 I know.

00:28:08.000 I'm not saying I'm a fan of it, but if you objectively look into some of the case files, it's legit.

00:28:12.000 We have wrongfully executed people before.

00:28:14.000 Yeah, that's DNA evidence has proven that.

00:28:16.000 Exactly.

00:28:17.000 Yes.

00:28:17.000 And other witnesses that have come out, actually, I did it.

00:28:19.000 Here's my DNA.

00:28:20.000 So that's something we have to deal with.

00:28:22.000 Okay.

00:28:23.000 I just want to say that.

00:28:25.000 However, as a Bible-believing Christian, I have no, I cannot possibly morally disagree at the death penalty.

00:28:32.000 The Catholic Church does, and I think they're totally wrong. 0.99

00:28:35.000 It is a law in all five books of the Torah, Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy.

00:28:41.000 And I've moved on it.

00:28:42.000 I've changed on this.

00:28:43.000 And I think that if you take a life, your life should be taken. 0.96

00:28:47.000 And I think if you are a pedophile, it's the same as taking a life. 0.56

00:28:50.000 You take the innocence of a child. 0.99

00:28:52.000 I think your life should be taken. 0.73

00:28:55.000 I would say if I have a concern, it is probably that specifically child sexual abuse is a crime that we have such a moral revulsion to that this will sound weird, but we do stuff now. 0.97

00:29:11.000 Like we just go back and we accuse some of stuff that happened 20 years ago and people get convicted of this.

00:29:17.000 And many of them probably are guilty.

00:29:20.000 But I would worry about us having a death penalty offense where someone could come forward and say, this person sexually abused me 20 years ago, 30 years ago, and there's no meaningful way to find yourself.

00:29:32.000 Roman Polanski.

00:29:34.000 If he came back to America, should he get the death penalty if he was guilty?

00:29:38.000 I think his guilt is pretty well established.

00:29:39.000 Okay, yeah, so we agree.

00:29:40.000 I mean, but that was 40 years ago.

00:29:42.000 Yeah.

00:29:42.000 So the time doesn't mean anything.

00:29:44.000 True.

00:29:44.000 I think that is something where I'd probably make a concession.

00:29:47.000 Okay.

00:29:47.000 Maybe we shouldn't allow it to be.

00:29:48.000 Just so everyone knows the Roman Polanski.

00:29:50.000 Also, he has been convicted, hasn't he?

00:29:51.000 He just fled before penalty, I think.

00:29:54.000 No, I think you might be right. 0.72

00:29:55.000 He's just in France and they don't extradite their own citizens, got on a plane and left, but he raped like a 16-year-old or something. 0.61

00:30:01.000 I think she was younger than that. 0.77

00:30:02.000 I think that's 13.

00:30:04.000 It was pretty young.

00:30:05.000 Okay.

00:30:05.000 But anyway, he's so let me ask you a question.

00:30:08.000 If somebody, theoretically, I don't want to get sued, if it came out that Woody Allen was a pedophile, theoretically, there's no evidence of that.

00:30:22.000 Why would we pick him specifically?

00:30:24.000 We could pick anyone if it came out that.

00:30:26.000 Because there was a movie about it.

00:30:27.000 That's true.

00:30:28.000 He played a pedophile in the movie.

00:30:31.000 I didn't see this movie.

00:30:32.000 If you've seen Annie Hall, it's, ooh, you know, it's not, it's a little bit on the edge, right?

00:30:37.000 The only thing I know is that movie got best picture instead of Star Wars, and nerds are still mad about it to this day.

00:30:42.000 Yeah.

00:30:43.000 So anyway, Angela, it's a biopic in restrospect.

00:30:49.000 Yeah, and by the way, I'm just saying theoretically, I don't know if that's the case.

00:30:54.000 Why should the time matter, Blake?

00:30:56.000 It's not so much that the time matters.

00:30:58.000 It's sort of my version of your concern with the innocent.

00:31:01.000 It's that it is a crime that we are hypersensitive to.

00:31:06.000 And I think it is one that is prone to moral frenzies over it.

00:31:11.000 There was a case, I can't remember the name of the person involved, but it was one of the Catholic sex abuse cases.

00:31:17.000 It was in Pennsylvania, and it was a priest, and there were really lurid allegations relating to it.

00:31:25.000 We talked about this in the show before, didn't we?

00:31:27.000 I've talked about it with you for sure.

00:31:29.000 I don't know if we've done it on here.

00:31:30.000 I could even bring it.

00:31:31.000 Oh, I thought I could have sworn it was on here.

00:31:33.000 Yeah, I know exactly where you're going with this.

00:31:36.000 Let me see if I can get it on screen.

00:31:38.000 Um, uh, Newsweek did a great, yeah.

00:31:41.000 So, actually, right, he was anyway now.

00:31:44.000 This is an article in Newsweek magazine.

00:31:45.000 I encourage people to look it up themselves.

00:31:47.000 It came out in 2016.

00:31:49.000 It's called Catholic Guilt: The Lying, Scheming Altar Boy Behind a Lurid Rape Case. 0.81

00:31:54.000 So, without getting into too much graphic detail, a former altar boy accused several priests of very graphically abusing him.

00:32:01.000 It was bizarre stuff.

00:32:02.000 It was like they would make him get drunk on communion wine and then they would rape him, you know, immediately before or after a mass, just totally wild stuff.

00:32:11.000 And they offered a plea deal to the priest at the center of this where they said, you know, if he pleaded, he was very old.

00:32:17.000 If you plead guilty, you won't get prison time.

00:32:20.000 And he refused it, saying, I am innocent, and I will never confess to a crime I did not commit.

00:32:26.000 So, he is convicted, goes to prison, gets a treatable heart condition, which they refuse to allow him to get treated because he is imprisoned, and dies of this.

00:32:36.000 And they also paid the boy in this case 20 million dollars, some huge settlement.

00:32:42.000 And that is still a law as far as it is.

00:32:44.000 That man died a convict.

00:32:45.000 I don't think he's ever been cleared posthumously or otherwise.

00:32:48.000 The accuser lives in Florida, I believe, got very rich off of this.

00:32:53.000 And what this article makes, I encourage people to read it in very strong detail.

00:32:56.000 It's a very, very, very long article.

00:32:59.000 Is that this was obviously and spectacularly made up.

00:33:02.000 This man, the accuser, had a history, had a criminal history, had a history of fabrications and lying.

00:33:09.000 And it seems extremely clear that he took advantage of a moral frenzy, made up wild allegations, and people were just willing to endorse those.

00:33:16.000 So, are we talking about if I remember?

00:33:18.000 Go ahead, Jack, please.

00:33:19.000 No, I was just going to say one of one of the big issues, Blake.

00:33:22.000 And I haven't read the article recently, but it was something about like the he made a lot of very specific allegations early on.

00:33:31.000 And then later, when they went to, you know, really just horrific stuff.

00:33:35.000 And then when they went to actually check and like get him to, you know, the second round of questioning, all of the allegations started changing.

00:33:44.000 Wasn't it something like that?

00:33:45.000 Yeah.

00:33:46.000 And that's what they'll do this where you'll have these shrinks who will come out and they'll say, well, actually, the contradictions in their story make it more likely that it's true, Charlie.

00:33:54.000 They'll say that stuff.

00:33:55.000 They would do that during me too, you'll remember.

00:33:56.000 So I'm just, I want to make sure I know.

00:33:58.000 So in the Idaho bill, you might not know. 0.51

00:34:00.000 Is this child rape? 0.96

00:34:02.000 Is this child sexual assault? 0.99

00:34:04.000 Is this online pedophilic behavior?

00:34:07.000 Because there's gradations to exclude conduct with a child.

00:34:10.000 So I think that wouldn't be child pornography.

00:34:12.000 Does that involve molestation?

00:34:14.000 It would have to be an action with a specific child and with aggravating circumstances.

00:34:20.000 And it's under the age of 12.

00:34:21.000 So this isn't even statutory.

00:34:23.000 I have no moral problem with death penalty.

00:34:26.000 Do you agree, Tyler?

00:34:27.000 Yeah.

00:34:27.000 I have based on that criteria.

00:34:30.000 I have no moral issue.

00:34:31.000 For practical purposes, I would say I agree.

00:34:33.000 I have no problem.

00:34:34.000 But the problem is with no guilt.

00:34:36.000 We're so what does Genesis teach us about that?

00:34:39.000 Well, about the child dealing with children, nothing necessarily specifically, but it does.

00:34:45.000 I mean, I mean the death penalty.

00:34:47.000 Yeah, I mean, a life for a life.

00:34:49.000 It's in the Noeak covenant.

00:34:51.000 It's very simple.

00:34:51.000 That if you take life, you have should have a life taken from you.

00:34:54.000 Again, it's in all five books: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy.

00:34:58.000 I said something on the show that wasn't necessarily true.

00:35:00.000 I said it was the only law repeated five times.

00:35:02.000 I think love your God, obviously, love God is all five times repeated, but it is repeated five times, which is very unusual in all five books of the Torah, the main canon of the Old Testament.

00:35:11.000 But all the numerologists, right now, or yeah, but Jack, I want to ask you a question as our resident Catholic who's fasting for Lent, you can answer this honestly.

00:35:20.000 Why are the Catholics, and I have such respect for Catholics, you know that this is not like some sort of trick.

00:35:25.000 Why are they so anti-death penalty?

00:35:28.000 Where does that come from?

00:35:30.000 Yeah, well, so there's there's there's a you know an urge, I think, to follow the words of Pope Francis as basically covering all Catholics, and it's just not true, right?

00:35:42.000 So there's a huge split within the Catholic Church.

00:35:45.000 Hold on, Jack, this is dogma before Francis, just so we're clear.

00:35:48.000 Yeah, so not dogma before because prior to, no, it's not, because prior to Francis, you even even as recently as Pope Pius, where it was very clear on the death penalty, was saying that the death penalty exists not as essentially not as a revenge on the person, but because and not as the deprivation of life, but because the right to life has been has been lost by the person who took life in the first place.

00:36:14.000 And so you have popes very recently before Francis coming out and saying that there's just full-throated 100% support for, again, as we are caveating valid cases of using the death penalty.

00:36:28.000 And so this really has been a huge shift that Francis had made.

00:36:32.000 Now, other popes, as you say, prior to Francis had made some statements in that direction, but this has been a huge change by Pope Francis to be pushing this major anti-death penalty status.

00:36:43.000 And so you will really find a lot of Catholics, myself included, that are on both sides of that issue, because there's been this huge, this huge shift.

00:36:50.000 And obviously, by the way, I don't think there's anyone who could say that if you look at church history, that, oh, yeah, the Catholic Church was always against the death penalty.

00:36:58.000 Well, no, I stand there.

00:36:59.000 There's a little bit of different history on that.

00:37:01.000 So I actually, I kind of fell for the up.

00:37:03.000 I thought it was dogma because of how widespread the belief is.

00:37:06.000 Now, Blake, a lot of major bishops are anti-death penalty.

00:37:10.000 It's within kind of Catholic culture, but it's not dogma like abortion is dogma.

00:37:15.000 Is that correct?

00:37:16.000 Even abortion.

00:37:18.000 I think abortion is dogma, though.

00:37:20.000 I just want to be careful with the use of the penalty.

00:37:22.000 I think you're referring to canon law.

00:37:23.000 You'll hear dogma used a lot more in description for like beliefs, kind of spiritual.

00:37:29.000 The sanctity of life, though, is like an immovable tenant.

00:37:33.000 You'll usually hear dogma mentioned, like the Immaculate Conception is a dogma of a shadow church.

00:37:37.000 Catholics have to believe that it's a shrine God. 0.91

00:37:39.000 Yes.

00:37:40.000 And so I just, I don't want to be incorrect in the use of the word dogma.

00:37:44.000 It is certainly a doctrine of the church.

00:37:46.000 It has been a longtime teaching of the church, like sanctity of life, for example.

00:37:50.000 The death penalty is now a doctrine of the church, but it is much more recent.

00:37:54.000 But it hasn't reached dogma, right?

00:37:57.000 What I would say is the catechism of the church right now teaches that the death penalty is unacceptable and you are supposed to believe the catechism of the Catholic Church. 0.96

00:38:05.000 But that's more than Francis.

00:38:06.000 That's the whole gang that teaches.

00:38:08.000 Yes.

00:38:10.000 It is, but Francis is the one under whose pontificate that was upgraded.

00:38:14.000 Did he do an encyclical for this?

00:38:15.000 John Paul II, for example, he said.

00:38:18.000 So the encyclical was John Paul II and this was the gospel of life.

00:38:23.000 But again, as you say, the encyclical is so that, you know, kind of using that pro-life language to say that, you know, we protect the innocent rights of the unborn as well as all life.

00:38:36.000 And so it's sort of, it's sort of eroding that past support for the death penalty, which as, again, is very recent in church history.

00:38:45.000 And clearly, if you look at the 2,000 years of Catholic Church history, has much longer standing than the current reading.

00:38:56.000 So John Paul II, he disliked the death penalty.

00:38:56.000 Yeah.

00:38:59.000 He wrote things saying it was bad, you know, not desirable.

00:39:04.000 Benedict XVI, his successor, he called for abolishing the death penalty, which is entirely within his right to do so.

00:39:12.000 And Pope Francis started with that, and then he has upgraded it to essentially saying a good Catholic should not support the death penalty.

00:39:20.000 And bluntly.

00:39:22.000 This is 2018.

00:39:24.000 This is not new.

00:39:25.000 I think this is a mistaken development of the church.

00:39:27.000 And given that he's also been saying stuff about blessing gay unions and such.

00:39:32.000 It's totally off the border. 0.92

00:39:34.000 It is very frocking amazing Catholic priests, right?

00:39:38.000 I mean, he's just going all over the place.

00:39:39.000 I don't want to get too deep into the Father Pavone thing.

00:39:42.000 I don't know.

00:39:43.000 There was another one.

00:39:43.000 He was fired.

00:39:44.000 He was defrocked too.

00:39:44.000 He's fired a guy in Tyler, Texas, too, right, Jack?

00:39:47.000 So this is Bishop Strickland.

00:39:49.000 He was not defrocked.

00:39:50.000 He was just, he was removed from his position as the bishop of.

00:39:54.000 Tyler, Texas.

00:39:55.000 So he is still a bishop.

00:39:56.000 Father Pavone was.

00:39:57.000 You are a layman.

00:39:58.000 You are a priest anyway.

00:39:59.000 You're laicized.

00:40:00.000 Yeah, being laicized is big.

00:40:02.000 It's really big.

00:40:03.000 What I will say, even if those of you that are in the audience against the death penalty, what I don't understand is committing your life to advocacy for people that have done really bad things and not giving a darn about people in the womb that have done nothing, that are completely innocent.

00:40:20.000 That's the moral equivalency I've never understand.

00:40:22.000 People say, well, how can you be against the death penalty, but also, I mean, in favor of death penalty, but also against abortion.

00:40:29.000 I always found that weird and people use it like it was a strong argument.

00:40:32.000 I think it's one of the worst arguments because the baby has done nothing.

00:40:36.000 Deep down, I think a lot of liberals see themselves in every vicious murderer who has been sentenced to death.

00:40:43.000 And so they sympathize with them quite openly.

00:40:45.000 So why would they not support them?

00:40:47.000 Yeah, it's dark, but I don't see myself.

00:40:50.000 I don't, exactly.

00:40:51.000 In these murders.

00:40:52.000 And the idea that it's always just very difficult for me to imagine having too much sympathy for anyone where you could have done literally anything with your entire life and you chose to wantonly kill someone, prey on anyone, destroy a child's life.

00:41:13.000 And so that could be a follow-up to this, which is, is there anything else you would support the death penalty for?

00:41:19.000 And a lot of really predatory people.

00:41:22.000 They're defrauding thousands of people out of their life savings.

00:41:25.000 Yeah, mass fraud, which China executes people for this.

00:41:29.000 If you engage in severe fraud or severe government misconduct of some egregious corruption, that, and then also even just something like really depraved forms of armed robbery or assault.

00:41:44.000 If you could do anything with your life and you like there's people in cities who do carjackings and then they shoot someone or those guys who were driving that car in Vegas and they killed that cyclist by running him over.

00:41:56.000 I think they should. 0.71

00:41:57.000 Even if that man had lived, I think you could credibly say they would deserve the death penalty.

00:42:02.000 In the strict biblical context, blood must be spilled for blood.

00:42:06.000 If you talk in justice terms, that if a life is taken, there must be a life taken.

00:42:13.000 Period.

00:42:13.000 End of story.

00:42:14.000 That you just can't just roll your eyes and say everything's just fine.

00:42:17.000 You want to read Pope Pius here, Jack?

00:42:20.000 Yeah, because I think, and again, this is the head of the church.

00:42:23.000 This is the Pope in 1952.

00:42:25.000 And he says so eloquently, it's the most eloquent quote I could find summarizing basically what we're saying about the difference between these two types of individuals that we encounter in our societies, the innocence of a child, which obviously is what pedophilia defiles, right?

00:42:43.000 It defiles the innocence of a child, so directly connected to this, versus a hardened murderer.

00:42:49.000 And here's Pope Pius XII, and this is 1952.

00:42:52.000 When it is a question of the execution of a condemned man, the state does not dispose of the individual's right to life.

00:43:00.000 In this case, it is reserved to the public power to deprive the condemned person of the enjoyment of life in expiation of his crime when by his crime, he has already disposed himself of his right to life.

00:43:16.000 Any final thoughts before we get to the next topic?

00:43:20.000 Not really.

00:43:21.000 Tyler, do you want to jump in on this?

00:43:23.000 What is the problem?

00:43:25.000 I'm not like uh, you know, super passionate either way about the death penalty itself.

00:43:30.000 I'm like, uh, you know, I think I agree with the sentiment that we're talking about.

00:43:34.000 I think you have to have caution.

00:43:35.000 There's there's reason to kill people and there's reason to be careful about killing people.

00:43:41.000 And so I think that that's like that's the happy.

00:43:43.000 I feel really good about the political context of the Idaho thing.

00:43:47.000 I think we should have a couple.

00:43:48.000 I've always been a big believer.

00:43:49.000 Like, you need a couple of Ron Pauls in Congress.

00:43:52.000 We need a couple of really crazy states in these United States to be like, we're going to do some really crazy stuff, and that's going to balance out.

00:44:03.000 It's like we should be negotiating from as extreme as possible.

00:44:06.000 Idaho is so deep-red, we need them to do stuff like this. 1.00

00:44:10.000 So then maybe we'll take pedophilia more seriously in California and Arizona and everywhere else because we have the left, the radical left, is trying to normalize pedophilia. 0.73

00:44:22.000 So it's okay to normalize killing people for pedophilia.

00:44:25.000 And he's, they might be a lot of people. 0.78

00:44:26.000 You know, Russia doesn't have it, by the way.

00:44:28.000 They don't.

00:44:28.000 Russia does not have a death penalty.

00:44:30.000 Oh, really?

00:44:31.000 Very few places do.

00:44:31.000 A lot.

00:44:32.000 And what's funny is they need people to work out.

00:44:35.000 America is a more democratic.

00:44:36.000 It proves that America is a more democratic country because if you poll on it, the death penalty is popular for murder in almost every country.

00:44:44.000 And yet in Europe, no one has the death penalty.

00:44:46.000 Almost no one does.

00:44:47.000 Even though a lot of them would vote for it, elites just say, nope, we're not doing that.

00:44:50.000 And Belarus has the death penalty.

00:44:53.000 They don't have pedophiles.

00:44:53.000 And you know what?

00:44:55.000 It is a deterrent, and I'll prove it to you.

00:44:57.000 Not a study or an ant.

00:44:58.000 It's very simple.

00:45:00.000 If a society said you will get the death penalty for robbery on every day but Thursday, what day would the robberies occur?

00:45:09.000 I rest my kids.

00:45:10.000 Oh, Friday, of course.

00:45:13.000 The people that there'll still be people too. 0.98

00:45:15.000 Wait, so there's, but then they'll be killed.

00:45:17.000 And then eventually behavioral patterns will be learned.

00:45:21.000 So Russia got rid of it.

00:45:22.000 Nathan Wade would try to say that, well, it was 1159, Your Honor.

00:45:29.000 And no, and I, as far as other death penalties, I think what some of those guys did to Donald Trump to use the instruments of government to destroy the constitutional order, that that should be under consideration.

00:45:40.000 Okay, let's talk about this.

00:45:41.000 News headlines in recent weeks report that Mark Zuckerberg, who made his big tech billions by collecting data on your interactions, is building an apocalypse shelter.

00:45:50.000 And while that is unsettling and eerie in and of itself, Joe Biden gets involved too, and we all need to start paying attention.

00:45:56.000 It's never a good sign when a president starts doomsday prepping with a close to 90% of pharmaceuticals in the U.S. produced outside of the U.S., what happens when the next global crisis strikes?

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00:46:19.000 But like all things, you can overuse them.

00:46:22.000 Okay.

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00:47:11.000 Jack, do you want to riff on this for a second?

00:47:14.000 Yeah, we were on travel a couple of weeks ago.

00:47:19.000 And actually, I think it was when we were in Vegas.

00:47:23.000 And, you know, we all got sick.

00:47:25.000 We all got there.

00:47:25.000 You know, by the way, I all got poisoned.

00:47:27.000 I got some sort of weird bio-terror thing.

00:47:30.000 I remember.

00:47:30.000 No, I remember.

00:47:31.000 Like, like, when people are saying, oh, Charlie's, you know, you know, not going to be on the show or something.

00:47:35.000 I was like, what?

00:47:36.000 It doesn't happen.

00:47:36.000 Like, dude's a machine.

00:47:37.000 Like, it does not happen.

00:47:39.000 It's like it couldn't come.

00:47:40.000 I got this thing tuned to like.

00:47:40.000 I got it.

00:47:43.000 It was like, it would be like saying that, like, there's no air outside or something.

00:47:43.000 Yeah.

00:47:48.000 No, it would be like Cal Ripken Jr. not showing up, you know, to show up for the Orange.

00:47:53.000 Yeah, seriously.

00:47:55.000 And it was, yeah.

00:47:56.000 And so, so when we got back, though, what was amazing for me was that my first emergency medical kit from the wellness company was waiting for me right on the doorstep.

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00:48:23.000 And, you know, take the, you know, the whole, the whole bit of what it is aside from you.

00:48:28.000 It is so hard in this day and age.

00:48:31.000 Like, you know, we talk about, oh, we're the most advanced country.

00:48:34.000 We're obviously going to be talking about that in a later segment.

00:48:36.000 But it's such a pain to get basic medication in this country because you have to go to urgent care and then you have to wait in the waiting line and then you have to get checked.

00:48:45.000 And then, you know, or if you want to go to your PCP, you've got to get an appointment and then you got to go to CBS or wherever it is.

00:48:51.000 And you got your Christian. 0.95

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00:49:11.000 I've actually, I've been talking to them about getting some of the other kids because they have a, they actually have a travel kit.

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00:49:23.000 Jack, I totally agree.

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00:49:33.000 I just looked this up, Charlie.

00:49:34.000 I didn't realize this, Jack.

00:49:36.000 The last time that in Belarus, they used capital execution here was in 2019, and it was by firearm.

00:49:46.000 Yeah, that's how you should.

00:49:47.000 By the way, this is my other problem with death penalty.

00:49:50.000 It takes too long, too many appeals.

00:49:51.000 It should be public.

00:49:53.000 It should be quick.

00:49:54.000 It should be televised.

00:49:56.000 Well, this can't be right, can it?

00:49:58.000 The last execution in France was guillotined in 1977.

00:50:01.000 100% true.

00:50:02.000 They used the guillotine.

00:50:03.000 Until 77.

00:50:04.000 Yeah.

00:50:05.000 That's so cool.

00:50:06.000 There's videotape of it.

00:50:07.000 Honestly, that's like what we should be doing.

00:50:09.000 It should be public.

00:50:09.000 And I agree.

00:50:10.000 And public square.

00:50:11.000 By the way, you could force the government to watch it.

00:50:14.000 You could have like brought to you by Coca-Cola.

00:50:17.000 And no, I'm not kidding. 0.99

00:50:18.000 By the way, I would totally tune in to see some pedo get their head chopped off. 0.99

00:50:22.000 Convicted by a jury or something. 0.99

00:50:24.000 By the way, that's going to get you.

00:50:25.000 No, I'm talking about a real thing.

00:50:27.000 I'm not talking about all executions in Belarus by firearms.

00:50:30.000 No, that's not a chance or anything.

00:50:31.000 Andrew's saying, don't make kids watch it.

00:50:32.000 And I think, no, the outside age, 168.

00:50:36.000 If you can drive, you can't.

00:50:37.000 No, but hold on.

00:50:38.000 If all of a sudden you look at some of these savages, like in Indiana, there was this guy that went in and killed a pregnant woman and her three kids.

00:50:38.000 Not even 16.

00:50:45.000 And you know what?

00:50:46.000 I want to watch that execution.

00:50:47.000 That'll make my day better. 0.99

00:50:48.000 I want to see him on a public block and get him be publicly executed. 0.98

00:50:53.000 And I think that would be justice. 0.93

00:50:54.000 You think children should have you should see it?

00:50:58.000 What is the age?

00:50:59.000 At what age should you start to see public execution?

00:51:02.000 16.

00:51:03.000 I think you could do it earlier.

00:51:05.000 I think you maybe at age 12, whenever sixth grade or so, you are a person, you know, they're old enough to, you don't, you don't need to like really wallow in it and have them be broken on a wheel or anything.

00:51:16.000 But if it was something like chopping, you know, if we had a guillotine or something.

00:51:21.000 I think it's the age where they can't be, you know, it's, I think there's too early and you become desensitized to maybe like this.

00:51:28.000 I think it's when you can actually embrace.

00:51:31.000 But it should also be taken in a holy way.

00:51:33.000 The meaning.

00:51:33.000 I don't mean holy in a bad way.

00:51:34.000 I mean that like this is heavy.

00:51:36.000 Once bluntly meaning.

00:51:37.000 We have kids who are 14 who are committing carjackings in cities and doing bad stuff.

00:51:43.000 And I think if you sent the message to them, if you do a bad crime, you will die and it will be like this and that.

00:51:51.000 But I think it's a positive message.

00:51:53.000 So my argument would be younger people get involved with that because they're with around older people who do those things.

00:51:59.000 I want you to imagine every day, all of a sudden they said, and today, remember that awful five, you know, the guy that went and shot up a school?

00:52:06.000 Because, you know, the left hates school shooters, and so do we, but they focus on the gun.

00:52:09.000 I think they're evil. 0.96

00:52:10.000 So, you know, you take one of these school shooters and they say, today we're going to publicly execute this person. 0.96

00:52:15.000 And they read it.

00:52:16.000 You know, no, yeah, or yeah, the shooters at the Super Bowl thing, and you read off what they did.

00:52:21.000 The parade.

00:52:22.000 You don't celebrate it.

00:52:23.000 You know, you just say, look, this is what they did.

00:52:25.000 And if you do this, this will be your fate.

00:52:27.000 Ready, set, go, boom, end of life. 1.00

00:52:30.000 And say, guillotine. 0.98

00:52:31.000 I just a question.

00:52:32.000 Scared straight used to be a whole TV show.

00:52:34.000 But this is scared straight for everybody.

00:52:36.000 Here's a question for anyone that might be, you know, not persuaded.

00:52:40.000 Would crime go up or down?

00:52:42.000 It would go way down.

00:52:43.000 Done.

00:52:44.000 So why is this even a question?

00:52:46.000 Well, they'll say it's not a deterrent. 0.98

00:52:49.000 And it's not because our current deterrent system and our current system is just as dumb as it could possibly be. 0.98

00:52:54.000 You get a Lally Dewey. 0.96

00:52:56.000 No, they shouldn't.

00:52:56.000 And that's what we said.

00:52:59.000 It's only done for a tiny minority of even murderers.

00:53:01.000 Only a handful of murderers actually get it.

00:53:03.000 And then their odds of getting executed are very low.

00:53:06.000 And it happens 25 years later.

00:53:08.000 You have to run articles in the newspaper to remind people why this bad person was on death row in the first place.

00:53:14.000 I'm going to tell you, this is what's so frustrating about American culture.

00:53:17.000 I mean, we took all the best parts of Greek culture, Roman culture, and French culture and the revolution and everything else.

00:53:23.000 And we didn't keep this part.

00:53:25.000 Like, we have the Coliseums for sports, but we don't have it for this.

00:53:29.000 I totally agree with this sentiment.

00:53:31.000 It's like we shouldn't make it like a celebration.

00:53:36.000 No, it should be a heavy thing.

00:53:38.000 It should be a heavy thing.

00:53:39.000 It's corporal punishment.

00:53:41.000 By the way, corporate punishment.

00:53:43.000 By the way, well, there is a difference between corporal punishment and capital punishment.

00:53:46.000 It's a totally separate conversation, but we should have, you know, the Singapore op.

00:53:51.000 Yeah, that's what I was going to say.

00:53:52.000 If we were going to, if we were, if you really want to have a question about, look, look, if you were a criminal and you were convicted or, you know, convicted and you were sentenced, but you were given a choice, you're going to say, all right, 20 years in jail or 20 lashes.

00:54:07.000 What are you taking?

00:54:09.000 Yeah.

00:54:09.000 And so.

00:54:10.000 You're taking the lashes.

00:54:11.000 Everyone's going to take the lashes.

00:54:12.000 And just so everyone is clear, this might sound crazy to some people.

00:54:16.000 Oh, my goodness.

00:54:17.000 If you commit what we would call a heinous crime, if you commit a crime against a human being and take their life, the current way that we do this is you get room and board and food for the remainder.

00:54:29.000 Has that made society safer, lessened heinous crimes?

00:54:34.000 Wouldn't it make sense to put the law, justice, on display for other people to see what happens when you do these things?

00:54:43.000 I totally agree with Jack to the lashing part too.

00:54:43.000 Yeah.

00:54:46.000 Like corporal, yeah, corporal punishment.

00:54:48.000 That would be cheaper, too.

00:54:49.000 I think that would be cheaper.

00:54:53.000 It would be faster, and it would be a better, it would be more effective.

00:54:56.000 I think.

00:54:57.000 And by the way, I think Donald Trump was spot on when he said drug dealers should get the death penalty.

00:54:57.000 Yeah.

00:55:02.000 And he was attacked for that.

00:55:03.000 Oh, yeah.

00:55:04.000 100%.

00:55:06.000 Okay.

00:55:07.000 We all agree.

00:55:08.000 Very normal mainstream opinions here, everybody.

00:55:10.000 No thought.

00:55:10.000 I don't even think these are thought crimes.

00:55:11.000 I don't know how anyone could disagree with me.

00:55:14.000 No, but you like you look at we brought up Jodi Arias because we were talking about why Mormons kill like their families and stuff like that and all that stuff. 0.80

00:55:21.000 We were talking about that.

00:55:22.000 Okay, all right.

00:55:22.000 We had no, there's a whole chat.

00:55:24.000 There's like a whole line of like we're talking about in the chat, folks.

00:55:26.000 We're talking about one not here, not here, but Jodi Arius.

00:55:30.000 She was guilty.

00:55:32.000 It's like literally on camera. 1.00

00:55:33.000 This woman like has now developed an entire life in a lifestyle in prison, like with all these boyfriends and like book deals. 0.98

00:55:41.000 And like it's this guy, like she should be dead. 0.98

00:55:43.000 Yes. 0.99

00:55:43.000 She killed a guy in cold blood on camera. 0.99

00:55:47.000 She admitted it later and she just is like living a lifestyle in prison now.

00:55:50.000 And I will say this.

00:55:52.000 My anti-death penalty impulse is also important to contribute.

00:55:55.000 The only negative is if they would use it against people for political conservative crimes.

00:56:03.000 Think about it.

00:56:03.000 And they would.

00:56:04.000 The regime.

00:56:05.000 What about what about Jeff Du Set?

00:56:07.000 That's why, I mean, that is why.

00:56:10.000 We'll get to that second.

00:56:11.000 That is why in the Constitution, we have that strict definition of treason.

00:56:14.000 Oh, yes.

00:56:15.000 The strict definition of treason.

00:56:16.000 You need two witnesses, and it only is levying war against the United States or giving aid and comfort to its enemies.

00:56:22.000 They give that precise definition because in England, they had the problem of that liberal use of treason where you're undermining the, you know, the body politic.

00:56:32.000 That's treason.

00:56:33.000 And then you execute them for that.

00:56:35.000 And that's why there's a ban on bills of attainder because, for example, during the English Revolution against King Charles, they passed a bill of attainer and just executed a guy because they said basically he was a bad dude.

00:56:49.000 And Parliament just said, we don't need a judge.

00:56:51.000 We don't need a jury.

00:56:52.000 We are the judge and jury. 0.99

00:56:54.000 And your head's going off.

00:56:56.000 Okay, so let's get to the next topic here.

00:56:58.000 So, Jack, this is kind of you and I inspired this.

00:57:00.000 Speaking of people who need the death penalty, I don't, well, some of the at some of whom have already received.

00:57:10.000 Okay.

00:57:10.000 I don't celebrate.

00:57:11.000 Okay.

00:57:12.000 For the record, I believe in a justice system.

00:57:14.000 I believe in the jury of your peers.

00:57:16.000 I believe in a process.

00:57:18.000 Okay.

00:57:21.000 So during the Super Bowl, I was a little triggered because it brought back memories to the theater people.

00:57:30.000 And I'm curious, when you guys were growing up, was Wicked ever in your town performing when you guys were growing up?

00:57:36.000 Did they come by here in Phoenix?

00:57:38.000 Oh, yeah.

00:57:38.000 Did they, Jack, was this?

00:57:40.000 Do you know what I'm talking about?

00:57:42.000 It wasn't when I was growing up, but a little bit later.

00:57:44.000 Yeah.

00:57:44.000 So they were huge in Chicago for like two years.

00:57:48.000 And now, if you don't know Wicked, it's like a spin-off of Wizard of Oz and it's like the sub-tech story, right?

00:57:55.000 And it's the prequel.

00:57:56.000 It's the prequel.

00:57:57.000 And it's very theater culture.

00:58:00.000 And so Jack and I have this theory.

00:58:02.000 And I think it's a pretty good theory, isn't it, Jack?

00:58:05.000 Which is, it's a great thing.

00:58:07.000 And I've said this before.

00:58:08.000 So people remember this up on Tim Cast like years ago.

00:58:12.000 It's a four-step move that led to some of the cultural decay that we're in.

00:58:18.000 So Fortify pieces everybody.

00:58:21.000 Okay, Jack.

00:58:22.000 I actually have a setup to kind of explain this to people.

00:58:27.000 But are we going to play the trailer?

00:58:28.000 I think where we're going to do that?

00:58:30.000 Yes, but then I want to go all the way back to how Zach Efron ruined America.

00:58:34.000 So let's start with that.

00:58:36.000 Yes.

00:58:37.000 So, okay.

00:58:38.000 Basically, so Glee, Glee, Wicked, high school musical all come out sort of in succession.

00:58:48.000 Zach Efron sets up.

00:58:50.000 And by the way, high school music is not at all.

00:58:52.000 I have this whole theory.

00:58:53.000 It's not.

00:58:54.000 So here's the whole thing, right?

00:58:55.000 Here's the whole thing.

00:58:56.000 High school musical isn't necessarily bad.

00:59:00.000 I don't think there's anything bad with high school music.

00:59:01.000 No, that's so genre.

00:59:04.000 That's the point.

00:59:05.000 It started this new genre.

00:59:07.000 And high school musical, people have to remember, we're going way back here.

00:59:10.000 This is the Bush era.

00:59:12.000 So in the Bush era, social conservatism was like the, you know, the rule of the land and social conservative.

00:59:20.000 And it got like to the point where, wasn't John Ashcroft at one point was like trying to cover up the nipple on the statue of the lady of justice because it was like, oh, this is too lurid and we have to, you know, we have to cover that up.

00:59:34.000 And like this, it just went like super, super, you know, super far in one direction, almost to the point of where we're stifling everything.

00:59:43.000 We're going to cancel everything.

00:59:44.000 So this is where, so high school musical comes out in this era and theater culture, you know, really latches onto it.

00:59:50.000 And then along comes a TV show called Glee.

00:59:54.000 And a lot of people don't realize that Glee, which came out right around the same time that social media got launched, right around the same time that smartphones got launched.

01:00:04.000 This is all ties together.

01:00:05.000 A little website called Tumblr is involved in this.

01:00:10.000 Glee originally was, and Charlie, this is where your point gets in.

01:00:14.000 Glee was a satire of high school musical.

01:00:17.000 It was supposed to be a joke.

01:00:19.000 It was supposed to be like a, like a parody, like a Monty Python thing.

01:00:22.000 But the problem was the fans and like who are all millennials that are suck at home because of the Great Recession and they can't get jobs and they're all in debt. 0.78

01:00:30.000 They start watching Glee and they start falling in love with it and they start taking it a little bit too seriously.

01:00:38.000 This becomes the plague ship for all identity politics and like, which later becomes wokeness and all of this stuff goes back to that original glee fandom, which was meant as a parody of high school musical.

01:00:56.000 And we have a huge piece written by Bill Hurrell, edited by myself, humanevents.com.

01:01:01.000 People can go check it out.

01:01:02.000 We published it.

01:01:03.000 I published it two years ago now, full two years ago.

01:01:05.000 And I talked about all this on Timcast.

01:01:09.000 And, you know, I got a lot of attacks for it.

01:01:12.000 But, and because I said, I'm not saying that Glee invented wokeness.

01:01:16.000 And this is what people don't understand.

01:01:17.000 It's that it was theater culture plus identity politics plus social media plus Barack Obama getting into office plus the rise of smartphones and the economic depression because all the millennials' lives ended up sucking, which by the way is one of the songs in Glee that suddenly it became this way to like relive your high school in a better way, a more fun way.

01:01:43.000 And it basically spills over and leads to the point where it's kind of taking over society now.

01:01:50.000 Yeah.

01:01:50.000 And it's interesting because what Wicked did, and again, just so I understand the four-part move here, high school musical glee, wicked, frozen.

01:01:58.000 We can get to that later, but it's like a four-part move here.

01:02:02.000 And it got increasingly, glee was definitely the most radical of them all as far as introducing some of these elements.

01:02:09.000 And then there's also cheer as well, which is kind of involved in this, which has its own issues.

01:02:15.000 But Jack, can you riff on theater culture?

01:02:19.000 Again, I'm nothing against theater.

01:02:21.000 I'm glad people are involved in theaters, in theater.

01:02:24.000 I'm glad they're involved in acting.

01:02:25.000 But theater culture is very, very left-wing, is very, very, very woke.

01:02:34.000 Yeah, so theater culture, again, you're talking about a culture where, so, so we always say that like the left is people that are in touch with their emotions.

01:02:43.000 And of course, in theater, you are called to emote.

01:02:46.000 You are called to portray emotions, false emotions, performative emotions in a stage setting for an entertainment purpose.

01:02:57.000 So for people who are empaths, people who are empathetic, you are drawn to theater.

01:03:03.000 And particularly, we're talking, and I want to be clear about this.

01:03:06.000 We're particularly talking about actors and the people that are actually on screen or on stage, because traditionally, it wasn't necessarily the people who were the directors, the producers, and the writers that were involved in this.

01:03:20.000 They are now.

01:03:21.000 I'm just saying, like originally.

01:03:23.000 Alfred Hitchcock actually has this famous statement that actors are cattle.

01:03:29.000 And so you get these people who are just so sucked into the deconstruction of emotion, the deconstruction of narrative, in order to normally and nominally perform the construction of narrative.

01:03:43.000 Then you get these wonderful stories when it's produced through the lens of a great director, a great writer.

01:03:50.000 But then when you have theater people who start to create their own things, their own society, their own institutions, when they start getting involved in things like politics, when they start getting, and by the way, if you've ever known theater people, if you do theater people at college or in high school, you know exactly what I'm talking about.

01:04:10.000 Everybody knows who I'm talking about.

01:04:12.000 They need those directors.

01:04:15.000 But you take the director out and you start having theater people directing other theater people.

01:04:20.000 And the only thing that comes of it is absolute madness and sheer insanity.

01:04:26.000 This is kind of where, like, you know, Ben Shapiro's famous aphorism of a factual care about your feelings is actually kind of like a response to the fact that the feelings crowd has taken over everything and that we all lead with feelings now.

01:04:39.000 That comes from the theater people.

01:04:41.000 All right.

01:04:41.000 This started with the theater people.

01:04:43.000 This started with stuff like Glee and Wicked and Frozen and High School Musical and all of that kind of taking over society.

01:04:52.000 And this is where you get, by the way, like a Jen Saki who's making these references and you get, do you, okay, people think, you know, for anybody who wants to say like, oh, posto is making this up or anything, I'm not reading the chat right now.

01:05:02.000 But it, do you guys remember the Disinformation Governance Board?

01:05:06.000 This was this board where she was singing theater songs, Nina Yankovich, and also participated in and created this, a Harry Potter musical act called The Moaning Myrtles, but at the same time was working for, was working for, at one point, the Ukrainian government directly as a quote-unquote disinformation researcher, which is just so amazing.

01:05:36.000 Then she comes to the U.S. government where she's focused on the disinformation governance board.

01:05:40.000 Again, at the Department of Homeland Security, a law enforcement agency where she's going to be coming after people like us.

01:05:46.000 Then she, I believe she's currently, or last I checked after she got fired because somebody, me, a couple of years back blew this entire thing up, blew the lid on the disinformation governance board.

01:05:55.000 Then she went to work for the British government, basically doing the same thing.

01:05:58.000 She's worked for like all these different governments.

01:06:00.000 And it's like there's this weird tie between like the national security state and the theater people, which produces Anina Yankovich that's somehow doing Harry Potter songs and comes from the Harry Potter fan.

01:06:15.000 So fandoms of things like fandoms of glee, fandoms of Harry Potter, fandoms of the current fandom of Star Wars, example, just totally infested with identity politics, are now actually and quite literally taking over our national security agencies.

01:06:31.000 Jack, that was excellent.

01:06:33.000 All right, let's get to grocery stores.

01:06:34.000 All right.

01:06:35.000 This is the stage.

01:06:37.000 This is, so you want to start or can I give my take?

01:06:40.000 Or you go.

01:06:41.000 We'll just set up the context because I'll send everyone.

01:06:45.000 I am a grocery store aficionado.

01:06:46.000 I do all the shopping for my family.

01:06:48.000 I'm a Russian grocery store.

01:06:49.000 I'm green store aficionado.

01:06:50.000 Oh, so was that a real picture of grocery stores?

01:06:53.000 So let's talk about it.

01:06:54.000 So Tucker goes and he does all these videos and he says he goes to Russia to interview Vladimir Putin and he does that.

01:07:03.000 That's all great.

01:07:04.000 We've talked about that.

01:07:06.000 And then he also just stays around and he does some stuff on what life is like in Moscow, the Russian capital.

01:07:11.000 And so he does one clip that's he goes to the Russian subway system, which at the least has more impressive stations than DC or New York does.

01:07:22.000 We can get into the rest of it, but they are very nice looking stations.

01:07:25.000 And then he also goes, he does a video where he visits a Russian grocery store, buys a bunch of food, and leaves with it.

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01:09:26.000 Okay.

01:09:26.000 So we do have the video.

01:09:28.000 So we'll open with that.

01:09:29.000 So this is Tucker Carlson going to a Russian grocery store.

01:09:32.000 Let's play 138.

01:09:36.000 I went from amused to legitimately angry.

01:09:41.000 So we were guessing what this would cost.

01:09:43.000 Everybody here is from the United States buys groceries, and we didn't pay any attention to costs as we were just putting in the car what we would actually eat over a week.

01:09:50.000 And we all came in around 400 bucks, about 400 bucks.

01:09:54.000 It was $104 U.S. here.

01:09:58.000 And that's when you start to realize that ideology maybe doesn't matter as much as you thought.

01:10:03.000 Corruption, if you take people's standard of living and you tank it through filth and crime and inflation, and they literally can't buy the groceries they want, at that point, maybe it matters less what you say or whether you're a good person or a bad person.

01:10:18.000 You're wrecking people's lives in their country. 0.99

01:10:20.000 And that's what our leaders have done to us.

01:10:23.000 And coming to a Russian grocery store, the heart of evil, and seeing what things cost and how people live, it will radicalize you against our leaders. 1.00

01:10:32.000 That's how I feel anyway.

01:10:33.000 Radicalized. 0.75

01:10:35.000 We're not making any of this up, by the way, at all.

01:10:37.000 So, Tyler, you've spent time in Russia.

01:10:39.000 You speak Russian.

01:10:40.000 So to be fair, I lived in Russia, you know, a while ago.

01:10:46.000 So things have maybe gotten a little bit better in some of these places.

01:10:48.000 I don't believe they have because I have friends in this little.

01:10:50.000 What years exactly?

01:10:51.000 Until 2007.

01:10:53.000 Okay.

01:10:53.000 So 2007.

01:10:54.000 So it's been a little bit.

01:10:56.000 So to be fair, you know, there's been a little bit more development in Russia since then.

01:11:01.000 The life, I'll say this, and Jack will probably agree with this: the lifestyle in the Moscow region versus the rest of the entire Massachusetts.

01:11:10.000 It's a European city versus a third world country.

01:11:13.000 It's like a real city that's like an American city in Moscow, everywhere else outside in St. Petersburg too, Petersburg.

01:11:22.000 But outside of that, everything south and east of Moscow is very not fun.

01:11:31.000 Yeah.

01:11:32.000 And they're by the way, you were in the Donbas region, which is like the Russian side of where the war is being fought right now.

01:11:38.000 Yeah, on the on the you know, the slightly less dangerous side right now of that of the holiday.

01:11:44.000 Yeah, so in Rostov.

01:11:46.000 You know, until they start to get until NATO makes their move.

01:11:51.000 NATO may make their move across the everywhere.

01:11:54.000 But Rostov, third largest city in Russia, I live there and the grocery stores, they have some bigger grocery stores.

01:12:02.000 There's a couple big ones that are kind of well known.

01:12:05.000 They're like a Walmart.

01:12:06.000 They have a couple of them, very few.

01:12:09.000 But most of the markets that you go to that most people shop in, and there's one big, the biggest one that's in Russia is called Magnet.

01:12:15.000 It's called like Magnet, Magnet.

01:12:17.000 And this is a very scary place.

01:12:19.000 If you walked in and an American, you would be like, this is all you've got. 1.00

01:12:24.000 This is a great selection of juice.

01:12:27.000 I'll say this because of vodka, great selection of juice.

01:12:30.000 They have really great juices.

01:12:31.000 Outside of that, your selections are very limited.

01:12:35.000 So yeah, things are cheaper, but it's not like when a Russian comes to America and they go through our supermarkets everywhere, like in the middle, you know, middle of nowhere, they're like, oh my gosh, I can't believe you have all this. 1.00

01:12:47.000 Like, how do people eat through all this, this much food?

01:12:50.000 Yeah, I think Angela makes a really good point, though, because some people think, though, and I think the video is very powerful in this regard, that Russia still has breadlines and they're this impoverished, just like dictatorial.

01:13:00.000 But they kind of do outside of Moscow because there's so many people on pensions there.

01:13:07.000 Well, that's what I'm saying is that almost everyone's on the government dole in Moscow or they're connected through the world.

01:13:12.000 Well, not Moscow.

01:13:13.000 Not Moscow.

01:13:14.000 Moscow is like normal life everywhere outside of Moscow.

01:13:17.000 And St. Petersburg is like completely dependent on the pension.

01:13:22.000 Let me explain what Producer Angelo was trying to say here is that his point was that to a lot of the audience, so a lot of people remember sort of the to the to an older audience out there.

01:13:33.000 And they remember the, when they hear Moscow, they think Soviet Union and they think of breadlines and they think of what life was like during that time.

01:13:41.000 And they remember the old Yeltsin video where he came to the U.S.

01:13:44.000 And Tyler, it's kind of what you're referring to when he comes to the U.S. in like the early 90s and he has this, wow, look at a supermarket.

01:13:51.000 I forget where he is.

01:13:52.000 But he's, you know, it's this famous video of him, you know, walking around in the U.S. supermarket.

01:13:56.000 He was in Harlem.

01:13:57.000 And he was in Harlem.

01:13:58.000 And he was like, why?

01:14:00.000 Like, and Harlem was like really bad.

01:14:00.000 Yeah.

01:14:02.000 It was a Houston supermarket that I've been talking about.

01:14:05.000 And then there's also, and, and so, what, what producer Angelo is saying, um, he's just a message in the chat is that, you know, perhaps what Tucker is doing is kind of pushing, not pushing back, but just kind of updating people's frame on where things stand.

01:14:25.000 Because, you know, like Tyler, you were there as a spy, obviously, in 2007.

01:14:30.000 But, you know, for other people, they just remember the Cold War era.

01:14:33.000 And that's kind of all they know.

01:14:35.000 So Tucker does have an interesting point that the groceries cost less, but Americans earn more than the average Russian does. 0.73

01:14:46.000 Yeah, I mean, right?

01:14:47.000 Groceries cost less.

01:14:48.000 I've been to Cuba and they were cheaper in Cuba too, but it was not necessarily don't go to a Cuban supermarket.

01:14:54.000 It's really, it's really bad.

01:14:56.000 Yeah, no, we did a whole video, by the way, we said team down to Cuba and went very violent.

01:15:02.000 Food prices are one of those things that scales very closely to the overall standard of living in your country.

01:15:09.000 This has been pointed out by people.

01:15:10.000 The average Russian spends a higher percentage of their income on food than the average.

01:15:15.000 Did I say average American?

01:15:16.000 The average Russian spends more of their money on food than the average American by quite a bit, it seems.

01:15:22.000 Americans spend, I think Americans spend the least share of their income on food of any country.

01:15:27.000 Whatever our problems, access to calories is not one of them.

01:15:31.000 Hold on.

01:15:31.000 So, Jack, or, you know, first I'll tell you.

01:15:34.000 I would say housing is cheaper, though.

01:15:35.000 Tyler's not a spy, just for the record.

01:15:36.000 Tyler went on a mission to Russia.

01:15:38.000 Oh, mission.

01:15:40.000 A special mission.

01:15:42.000 I used to talk about the consciousness.

01:15:43.000 I would ride on the ship.

01:15:45.000 No one ever sees spies going on.

01:15:48.000 I would ride on the train and I would just randomly start talking into my shoe and like it's my watch and like just freak all the old people out. 1.00

01:15:54.000 Yeah, that's a good way to get yourself reported to the kids.

01:15:57.000 I for sure did.

01:15:58.000 So Jack, is the quality of food better?

01:16:03.000 It was an LDS mission.

01:16:04.000 All right.

01:16:05.000 You know, people are asking the chat, like it was the LDS mission.

01:16:07.000 It is here's in Russia.

01:16:08.000 What is not Orlando, like the musical?

01:16:12.000 Is the quality of food better in Russia?

01:16:17.000 So I've spent time in Belarus, which is where Tanya's from, everybody knows.

01:16:23.000 And, you know, obviously a lot of economic times with Russia there.

01:16:27.000 And the quality of the food, which by the way, isn't necessarily just an Eastern European thing.

01:16:32.000 It's all of Europe is like this.

01:16:34.000 The food is so much better, so much more nutritious and so much more alive and nutrient-rich than anything you'll find in America outside of like, you know, farm to table.

01:16:44.000 When we say farm to table, they just call that food in all of Europe.

01:16:49.000 They're like, yeah, that's food.

01:16:50.000 Like even if you're in Poland, it's, you know, I go spend time with my Polish relatives and they'll say, you know, where did these eggs come from?

01:16:56.000 They're like, see those chickens across the street?

01:16:58.000 That's where the eggs came from.

01:17:00.000 You know, see that cow down the lane?

01:17:02.000 That's where the milk you're drinking came from.

01:17:04.000 You know, and this is just, this is just super normal.

01:17:07.000 And the fact that we have so much fake food, or like when Tanya's family comes to visit, even her father, well, he sees American food and he's like, not all of it, but a lot of it.

01:17:17.000 And he's like, this stuff is plastic.

01:17:19.000 This stuff doesn't taste real.

01:17:20.000 It doesn't taste like it's got nutrients.

01:17:22.000 And if you've never been to, you know, Europe and just any part of it, you know, even, you know, Western Europe is definitely obviously more expensive than anything that you're going to see east of Berlin.

01:17:33.000 But even in like quote unquote cheaper Eastern European areas, you know, the food you're going to get is so much more healthy, so much more nutrient-rich.

01:17:41.000 And you're going to say, wow, I've never tasted bread before.

01:17:43.000 I've never tasted steak before.

01:17:45.000 I've never tasted, I was in Belgrade, what, in last year, and, you know, I had this steak, which just blew my mind.

01:17:52.000 Absolutely blew my mind.

01:17:54.000 The Twitter did have community notes where they said over 60% of Russians spend half of their salary on food, according to Russia's state-owned news agency.

01:18:03.000 The average wage in Russia was 73,000 rubles per month, which is $791 a month with today's exchange rate.

01:18:10.000 And that's also a big part of this is that due to U.S. sanctions on Russia, the value of the ruble versus the U.S. dollar has gotten really crazy just in the last couple of years.

01:18:22.000 And so that does mean if you are a tourist from America going to Russia, the buying power of your dollar is really, really strong.

01:18:29.000 And that is going to make the price seem really jarring in comparison.

01:18:34.000 But that's not necessarily the best reflection on is Russia better or worse than America.

01:18:40.000 I'll never forget my first day in Nova Churkovsk when I first got there.

01:18:45.000 This was a place that was famous because there was like this big murder scene that happened in Novichikovsky.

01:18:52.000 No one ever remembers.

01:18:53.000 You can Google and find it out.

01:18:55.000 So I go to the bazaar with this guy, Valery Grigorovich.

01:18:58.000 He's missing three fingers.

01:18:59.000 Who knows why?

01:19:01.000 And we're like, we're going to buy something so we can barbecue it.

01:19:04.000 And I was like, okay, maybe like a chicken.

01:19:06.000 And it's a bazaar, right?

01:19:09.000 So you're walking through the market and there's like hanging animals everywhere like me.

01:19:12.000 And I'm like thinking, oh, we'll go buy beef.

01:19:14.000 Yeah, there's cow.

01:19:15.000 No, none of that. 0.76

01:19:16.000 There's all these rats hanging by their tails.

01:19:19.000 They're called Nutria.

01:19:20.000 They're like a water rat, like almost like a, I put it in the chat.

01:19:25.000 You can look at a big beaver with a rat's tail instead of the.

01:19:29.000 Yeah, it's definitely a rover thing for sure.

01:19:31.000 And they're an invasive species.

01:19:33.000 What's that?

01:19:34.000 We have them.

01:19:35.000 We have them in the Chesapeake area and they're an invasive species. 0.81

01:19:39.000 It's 100% legal to kill them. 0.99

01:19:41.000 If you see them, they're just disgusting rodents, basically parasites. 0.99

01:19:46.000 They're like a giant, they're like the giant rat you'd have to kill in a video game in the first level. 0.98

01:19:51.000 They're huge.

01:19:52.000 For no experience points.

01:19:53.000 They're huge.

01:19:54.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:19:55.000 That was my first meal in Russia.

01:19:56.000 Tyler's XP is Tyler's very interesting.

01:19:59.000 My second meal in Russia.

01:20:01.000 My second meal in Russia was probably a sandwich made of hot dogs and shredded carrots and a lot of mayonnaise.

01:20:10.000 That's like their, that's their sandwich.

01:20:12.000 Jack, Jack Ned.

01:20:13.000 Have you ever had one of those, Jack?

01:20:14.000 A Buddha Vrode.

01:20:14.000 Yeah.

01:20:16.000 You know, I will interject here and people say, you know, I like it.

01:20:20.000 It's like the open-face sandwich.

01:20:21.000 It's the open-faced sandwich.

01:20:23.000 It's shredded carrots, Korean sweet carrots over hot dog just on like a flat open sandwich.

01:20:32.000 It's not good.

01:20:33.000 It's an acquired tea.

01:20:34.000 I've had different stuff.

01:20:35.000 No, not like that.

01:20:36.000 I have a different stuff.

01:20:37.000 I got to take you guys.

01:20:38.000 Are you going to defend American food here?

01:20:40.000 Yeah.

01:20:41.000 Guys, we have barbecue in America.

01:20:43.000 It's really good.

01:20:45.000 And I think it's really easy for people to say, oh, I go to other countries and the food is better.

01:20:50.000 Well, you usually go to other countries on vacation.

01:20:52.000 Well, and so you eat at nice restaurants or you go to a country that's poor enough that people have to cook all the time.

01:20:59.000 And so they get good at cooking.

01:21:00.000 So both of those things will mean the meals are better.

01:21:03.000 The everyday food in Italy is objectively healthier than European.

01:21:06.000 Okay, but Italy is Italy.

01:21:07.000 Italy is famous.

01:21:09.000 And Japan.

01:21:10.000 Japan is pretty good.

01:21:12.000 I just named it.

01:21:13.000 Also famous.

01:21:14.000 But what the average person eats in Japan day to day is really boring.

01:21:18.000 And it's good for you.

01:21:18.000 They have Kimchi Korean.

01:21:19.000 It's good for you.

01:21:20.000 Kimchi's Korean.

01:21:21.000 Kimchi's Korean.

01:21:22.000 Yes, but Japanese have NATO.

01:21:25.000 That's right.

01:21:25.000 Natto.

01:21:26.000 They have a lot of sand.

01:21:26.000 NATO.

01:21:27.000 We're probably not affected by Japanese. 0.96

01:21:28.000 It's not NATO.

01:21:29.000 But, you know, if you look at the countries with heart disease is the number one killer of Americans.

01:21:35.000 The country love to eat.

01:21:36.000 The three lowest heart disease, though, are Japan, Korea, and France.

01:21:40.000 There's no way Russia is at the top of that list.

01:21:42.000 It's Japan, Japan.

01:21:43.000 It's Japan and Korea and France are the three lowest heart disease.

01:21:45.000 Yeah, but that's a different.

01:21:46.000 But so if you look at, for example, Blake, I think you would agree.

01:21:49.000 If you went to, you know, the blue zone, you know, yeah, yeah.

01:21:52.000 Do you know that a lot of blue zones are fake?

01:21:54.000 Well, the blue zone.

01:21:55.000 I'm going to mess with you.

01:21:56.000 Well, so for example, the part of Italy that has the highest, longest was Sardinia.

01:22:00.000 Explain what blue zones are.

01:22:02.000 Okay, okay.

01:22:02.000 I'll explain blue zones, for those who don't know, they're real.

01:22:07.000 They like to, people research longevity researchers, health researchers.

01:22:10.000 I wrote a whole book on it.

01:22:12.000 They look for places where people live the longest because we could learn, you know, how do we live longer ourselves?

01:22:18.000 And so they find places that have a very large percentage of people relatively who live to be 100 or older.

01:22:24.000 And some examples of blue zones are Sardinia.

01:22:27.000 That's an island owned by Italy.

01:22:28.000 Costa Rica.

01:22:28.000 Okinawa.

01:22:29.000 Icaria.

01:22:30.000 An island owned by Japan.

01:22:31.000 Icaria Greece.

01:22:32.000 Several places, some towns in California that have a lot of Seventh-day Adventists at a high rate.

01:22:38.000 And so they study these.

01:22:39.000 And what's interesting is some of them seem to be real.

01:22:41.000 I think the Seventh-day Adventist towns, it's a lot of Asians who follow healthy living as part of what the Seventh-day Adventists teach.

01:22:48.000 They live a long time.

01:22:50.000 But some of them are interesting because, for example, there's a lot of reason to believe that the high rate of centenarians in Sardinia might be less that they live really healthy lives and more that the rural areas of Italy never quite hit the industrial revolution.

01:23:07.000 And so they don't have good record keeping.

01:23:09.000 And so a lot of people they believe are doing pension scams in Sardinia.

01:23:14.000 That might be true, but it like there's an entire ring of islands in Greece that replicate that.

01:23:20.000 And it's the Mediterranean diet.

01:23:22.000 You walk a lot.

01:23:24.000 I think it might be similar with those, which is we have fringe parts of not super industrialized European of countries of European countries.

01:23:33.000 European countries that have that are pretty nice, but then they have some fringe areas that aren't as developed or modernized.

01:23:40.000 And so it's rural, not super developed islands in Greece, rural, super not-developed islands in Italy, and then the most rural, less developed part of Japan.

01:23:50.000 Let me ask you, they eat a lot of fish in both those places too.

01:23:52.000 So you'll defend American food.

01:23:55.000 The average American who has a lot of corn in their diet, you think that's good versus an average European in either Switzerland.

01:24:04.000 It's not great.

01:24:05.000 Corn is not great for you.

01:24:06.000 Okay, so you're agreeing with me.

01:24:07.000 Corn is the number one agrarian-based product that Americans have on a daily basis.

01:24:11.000 But that's just, that's just, okay, we're eating a so much.

01:24:13.000 It's a grain that's not a solution.

01:24:15.000 We're eating in a grain that is less impossible for us.

01:24:18.000 I feel like when people say the food is better, they sort of mean on this abstract level that all of the foods are just a step of different, they have different agricultural practices.

01:24:28.000 They use less.

01:24:29.000 They do not use tilling farming.

01:24:31.000 They use less dyes and pesticides.

01:24:34.000 People, I will say this.

01:24:35.000 Ask anybody, and our emails will prove me right.

01:24:37.000 Ask anybody that has a gluten intolerance whether or not they can eat the bread in Italy.

01:24:41.000 And the answer is yes.

01:24:43.000 Actually, Italy has an exploding gluten intolerance rate.

01:24:45.000 This is what's interesting.

01:24:46.000 All of the problems we associate.

01:24:48.000 No, but all of the problems we associate with, oh, the U.S. is particularly unhealthy.

01:24:52.000 It's not that we're unhealthy, everyone else is healthy.

01:24:55.000 Maybe there's something else causing that.

01:24:56.000 We are unhealthy and everyone is catching up with us.

01:24:59.000 So everyone, Europe is as fat as we were 10 to 15 years ago.

01:25:04.000 Europe is having an explosion of all these weird health problems we associate with the U.S. diet of, oh, gluten intolerance.

01:25:10.000 Auto and diabetes.

01:25:11.000 That is obviously caused by other things.

01:25:13.000 But Blake, you travel a lot.

01:25:15.000 You can't objectively say that the mainline American diet.

01:25:19.000 Oh, it's horrible.

01:25:21.000 We agree.

01:25:21.000 But I think what a lot of it is is America has this base tier of diet that a lot of people eat that is, we know it's trashy and we just kind of eat it anyway.

01:25:31.000 What you are saying, which is smart, is that if you're a tourist to America and you eat the best food we have to offer, our food can actually be very tasty.

01:25:38.000 Our food is really tasty, and it can be really healthy, and it's still not expensive.

01:25:43.000 What in American fare can be, quote, really healthy?

01:25:47.000 I don't know.

01:25:48.000 We're pretty good at making all sorts of like vegetable dishes, I think.

01:25:52.000 Or like steak would be the only answer I would take it.

01:25:54.000 Yeah.

01:25:54.000 Like a good, like sirloin raised.

01:25:57.000 No one agrees on like what's healthy in the first place.

01:25:59.000 Well, we do. 0.99

01:26:00.000 We think that like garbage. 0.97

01:26:02.000 You eat four different foods. 0.99

01:26:03.000 Correct.

01:26:04.000 Well, it tends to work.

01:26:07.000 Charlie, I eat chickens occasionally, to be fair.

01:26:11.000 The one upper hand.

01:26:13.000 The eggs got to me.

01:26:14.000 The one upper hand that America has on basically every other country is our beef.

01:26:20.000 100%.

01:26:21.000 Beef is objectively great for you, by the way.

01:26:23.000 Which is good for you.

01:26:24.000 And we have lots of it.

01:26:26.000 No other country has nearly blessed from the Lord.

01:26:30.000 It's number one in the world.

01:26:31.000 Argentina is the second.

01:26:32.000 Yeah.

01:26:32.000 We're like, we're very blessed that we have that in our chicken lifestyle.

01:26:35.000 Chicken's terrible for you.

01:26:36.000 How is chicken terrible for you?

01:26:37.000 Well, the chicken.

01:26:39.000 It's terrible for the chickens.

01:26:40.000 Okay.

01:26:40.000 The way we do chicken is not good.

01:26:43.000 It's not good for the chickens.

01:26:44.000 It is industrial scale chicken raising.

01:26:47.000 Well, yeah, it's terrible for the chickens.

01:26:49.000 I wouldn't want to be a chicken.

01:26:50.000 It's objectively not nutritious. 1.00

01:26:52.000 It's full of garbage. 0.99

01:26:53.000 They're not free-range. 1.00

01:26:54.000 No, chicken's great.

01:26:55.000 Chicken is almost all protein.

01:26:56.000 You just get skinless chicken breast. 0.75

01:26:58.000 Cook that.

01:26:59.000 So the nutrient profile of chicken is good.

01:27:02.000 The way that we do chicken is really awful.

01:27:04.000 The urine chicken.

01:27:05.000 If you are a person inclined to change the chicken, Mongolian chicken.

01:27:09.000 Bleeding heart stuff.

01:27:10.000 No, no, I don't believe in animal rights.

01:27:11.000 I believe in human flourishing.

01:27:13.000 And I just think that eating, like persuading yourself that you're eating like this.

01:27:18.000 You know, the traditional message of American prosperity was a chicken in every pot and a car in every garage.

01:27:23.000 And America is the country that could put a chicken in every pot.

01:27:27.000 And we made chicken so obnoxiously cheap that you can just eat it every day and it costs essentially nothing.

01:27:34.000 And it's great.

01:27:35.000 And first of all, it's not.

01:27:37.000 It hasn't been great.

01:27:38.000 The main sources that make American food bad, that make everyone fat, is our profusion of carbohydrates.

01:27:45.000 Yeah, cheap carbs.

01:27:46.000 We agree. 1.00

01:27:46.000 Yes, but that is what America is most known for. 1.00

01:27:48.000 Yeah. 0.97

01:27:49.000 Other countries don't engage in complex cheap carbs like we do.

01:27:51.000 It's the meat barley.

01:27:53.000 Our worst food is like a Cheez-It.

01:27:55.000 No offense if we have Cheez-Its as an advertiser.

01:27:57.000 But Cheez-Its and Oreos.

01:28:01.000 Oreo is actually a toy.

01:28:02.000 You know, they ranked it as the most unhealthy thing you can eat.

01:28:04.000 Yeah, but it's vegan.

01:28:05.000 Gotta love vegan.

01:28:06.000 Is it really?

01:28:07.000 It is.

01:28:08.000 It's not real cream.

01:28:09.000 It's like a hydrogenated vegetable oil thing.

01:28:12.000 But it's all the dyes, too.

01:28:13.000 But what you are right about, Blake, which is important, and this, I will yield to this.

01:28:17.000 If you want to eat healthy in America, you can somewhat affordably.

01:28:21.000 Very affordable.

01:28:22.000 More so than any other country.

01:28:23.000 And I think America has a very strong food purity culture, which causes a lot of people to kind of go insane and think, I need to shop at one of only these two or three places or these restaurants.

01:28:34.000 And if I don't do this, I will turn into this like land whale or a monster and I will die of heart disease.

01:28:39.000 And no, it's kind of an 80-20 principle.

01:28:42.000 Most of the really horrible stuff in American food, you can cut out pretty easily.

01:28:48.000 Don't get addicted to bad carbs.

01:28:50.000 That is the worst thing we have.

01:28:51.000 We agree.

01:28:51.000 Cheap carbs everywhere.

01:28:52.000 Cut those out.

01:28:53.000 You're going to be healthy.

01:28:54.000 That is, I cut out a lot of bad carbs, and that is how I cut a ton of weight.

01:28:58.000 And then I ate a bunch of the chicken you think is poison.

01:29:00.000 I think chicken can be fine as long as it's free-range, not factory-finished, still high-industrial steroid influence.

01:29:08.000 I can buy a no-sugar, like I can buy the healthy grade of peanut butter with no sugar added and all of that.

01:29:13.000 And a container of it is still $3.99.

01:29:17.000 And that's a very healthy food that's not available in Europe because they don't have peanut butter there for some reason.

01:29:21.000 True, no, the landmass.

01:29:22.000 Or beef.

01:29:23.000 Well, they could easily grow, obtain peanut butter.

01:29:26.000 They just don't eat it, really.

01:29:27.000 They don't like it.

01:29:28.000 We have to go, everybody.

01:29:29.000 Do you agree with Blake or I? 0.97

01:29:30.000 I think American food is largely trash, with some exceptions. 0.97

01:29:33.000 I just think this is a moral thing. 0.99

01:29:34.000 Everyone's decided, it's just everyone repeats it.

01:29:36.000 And then they go on vacation and they like it.

01:29:40.000 Can I just say one thing on this, the American food debate?

01:29:43.000 Because even though American food may not be as healthy as it could be and should be and is in other places of the world, no one has the flavor options with diversity.

01:29:54.000 And diversity.

01:29:55.000 If you like foreign food, you can go buy it.

01:29:56.000 There's going to be, I could, I don't even know what where it would be.

01:29:59.000 Go walk the streets.

01:30:00.000 There's going to be a Russian grocery store, a German grocery store.

01:30:03.000 There's an Asia mart a mile away from here.

01:30:06.000 And you can go to all those places and get their foods.

01:30:08.000 And they're all still going to be really cheap.

01:30:09.000 We all agree.

01:30:10.000 Corn is the problem.

01:30:11.000 You don't want Russian. 1.00

01:30:12.000 Corn is a demon.

01:30:13.000 Corn is, if there was one thing to remove from the American diet, it's all forms of corn.

01:30:17.000 Remember, my food goes corn syrup.

01:30:19.000 The Aztecs worshipped corn as a god, and then they also ate human beings for the nutrition.

01:30:24.000 Obviously, a causal sacrifice.

01:30:25.000 Speaking of, everybody, we got to go.

01:30:28.000 Remember, take out corn of your diet and just remove all carbohydrates.

01:30:32.000 You don't need them.

01:30:34.000 Glucose is a scam.

01:30:36.000 Power your body through ketogenic lifestyle.

01:30:38.000 You'll be happier and more energy.

01:30:40.000 See you next week.

01:30:40.000 Till then, keep committing thought crimes.

01:30:46.000 Thanks so much for listening.

01:30:47.000 Everybody, email us as alwaysfreedom at charliekirk.com.

01:30:50.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - February 17, 2024

THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 33 — The Big Fani Whammy? Kill Pedos? U.S. Food vs. The World?

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