The Charlie Kirk Show - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 36 — Dead Boeing Whistleblowers? Aaron Rodgers for VP? TikTok Ban: Good or Bad?

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00:01:29.000 We have with us Blake, Tyler, and Jack from a very special studio.

00:01:35.000 Let's get right into it.

00:01:36.000 To ban or not to ban?

00:01:38.000 That is the question.

00:01:39.000 Blake set it up.

00:01:40.000 All right.

00:01:41.000 Well, so it seems like people have talked about this for two years and it went nowhere.

00:01:45.000 And then suddenly it just went everywhere in one week.

00:01:47.000 Congress just like all unravels and they're gonna ban TikTok, possibly.

00:01:53.000 The U.S. House voted pretty overwhelmingly.

00:01:56.000 Most Republicans, most Democrats, advanced a piece of legislation, which, to be specific, empowers the White House, the president, to designate an app as owned by a foreign adversary government.

00:02:09.000 And then they have a time limit of a few months to divest themselves of that app.

00:02:13.000 And if they do not do so, then it is banned from U.S. app stores, which means the iPhone, Apple App Store, Microsoft App Store, Google's, and so on.

00:02:22.000 And it's going to the Senate.

00:02:24.000 It wouldn't ban it.

00:02:26.000 It would not ban it.

00:02:27.000 It doesn't say it's not a one-line piece of legislation that says TikTok is banned.

00:02:31.000 In fact, all it does is say it lets the Biden administration say TikTok will be banned if they do not do the following things.

00:02:40.000 And what they're required to do is Byte Dance, which is the Chinese company that owns it.

00:02:46.000 They would be forced to divest themselves of TikTok in the U.S.

00:02:49.000 So they could just sell its operations to some other company.

00:02:53.000 And if they do that, then it can no longer be banned.

00:02:57.000 So, Jack, how do you, where do you fall on this?

00:03:00.000 There's been kind of a division in certain Trump circles or conservative circles.

00:03:05.000 Do you think, do you support this, this bill, this piece of legislation?

00:03:09.000 So it's really weird, right?

00:03:11.000 You know, I'm coming at this from a guy who spent the better part of 18 years either learning about the CCP or focused on China.

00:03:20.000 And I've never seen this level of support for something that is just on its face anti-CCP before.

00:03:27.000 So right there, that just gives me pause to say, wait a minute, is there something else going on?

00:03:31.000 Is there something weird, something amiss?

00:03:34.000 Because I've never seen this in Washington, D.C. ever in 18 years act like this before.

00:03:40.000 In general, in general, yes, 100% divest TikTok from the CCP.

00:03:47.000 However, comma, I do have pause as to what the actual guts of this bill are.

00:03:54.000 I know you and I both had Rakeem Kassam on today.

00:03:56.000 He says he's gone through it and hasn't seen any issues in the exact wording of it, but I'd love to do a little bit more of a deep dive to make sure that there aren't any of these kind of hidden meanings or hidden effects from the thing.

00:04:10.000 In general, though, of course, this is something that I would support.

00:04:14.000 I don't know about this specific bill enough, but in general, yes.

00:04:18.000 Tyler, how are we scoring this or looking at this?

00:04:20.000 And what was the vote tally in the House?

00:04:22.000 And kind of walk our audience through the Freedom Caucus versus MAGA wing.

00:04:26.000 What's going on here?

00:04:27.000 So not everyone in the Freedom Caucus opposed it, but a good chunk of the Freedom Caucus did.

00:04:32.000 So what I think a lot of people would consider the most conservative members of the Freedom Caucus that are like the kind of go-to, the Andy Biggses and co, that kind of the former Freedom Caucus shell, Matt Gates, others, they opposed it.

00:04:50.000 And part of the reason why I'm hearing that their opposition to this is because it gives way too much control to the executive branch to make determinations.

00:05:00.000 And there's a concern that the determination is that they could score an American company as being too foreign or foreign influenced, in which case then that could ultimately just give the executive branch the control and power to start wheels of motion and really ahead of this next election, shut down social media again.

00:05:24.000 So is that, so Blake, that's what some people have said is that this can be then used and abused.

00:05:29.000 Where do you fall on that?

00:05:31.000 Some people call it fear-mongering.

00:05:32.000 Some people say that's just what the government does.

00:05:35.000 Yeah, I guess I feel like with any piece of legislation that comes together very quickly, and it just does seem like this came together very quickly after a lot of stalling out and then everyone's saying, we're going to do this right now.

00:05:48.000 In an election year.

00:05:49.000 In an election year.

00:05:50.000 And even if it's not intended to be abused, even if it is written in a manner to prevent abuses, I just, I feel like the trust level with the federal government is low and always going lower.

00:06:03.000 And, you know, just like glancing through this, it gives the power to the attorney general to start investigations into violations of this.

00:06:08.000 So what happens if they just start harassing your company and demanding all of your stuff to see, oh, are you actually controlled by a foreign adversary?

00:06:15.000 And that's part of it is it gets into it's controlled by a foreign adversary.

00:06:21.000 It's not owned because I don't believe the Chinese government literally owns TikTok.

00:06:25.000 It's more that in the sense that every Chinese company is perceived as to some extent dominated by the CCP because it's an authoritarian country.

00:06:34.000 And so you can easily see how definitions start getting loose in there.

00:06:38.000 Well, they'll say, well, any app that's linked with this country is really owned by that regime.

00:06:43.000 And then you get this, you see the chain of events start taking place.

00:06:47.000 Yeah.

00:06:47.000 So Jack, kind of be our China expert here, Chinese Communist Party.

00:06:53.000 Is what Blake is saying correct?

00:06:54.000 I mean, can saying that it's CCP or is it factually correct to say that it is owned by the Chinese Communist Party, an owned and operated asset of the CCP?

00:07:07.000 Well, so, I mean, the way that, okay, the way that business in China operates is very different from the way that business in the United States works, where in the United States, you have clearly delineated lines between what is a private entity, what is a public entity, what is a political party, what is not.

00:07:28.000 In China, the party has sort of control over everything, in a sense.

00:07:35.000 Every enterprise is allowed to rise or fall because the party at one level or another, I'm not saying that they're Xi Jinping sitting up there like making decisions on what the algorithm is going to push today.

00:07:46.000 And I've heard people say that. 0.62

00:07:48.000 I think that's a little silly.

00:07:49.000 But it's sort of like, As long as they're respecting the things they need to respect, as long as they're doing the things they need to do, then they're fine.

00:07:58.000 And this, and by the way, ByteDance and Douyin, which is what it's called in China, are not the only, you know, there's a ton of other social medias in China.

00:08:09.000 The main piece of it, though, of course, is that each of them do have to fall under the auspices of the CCP.

00:08:15.000 Now, to answer your question directly, my big take on this is that the angle has always been they keep saying, well, you don't need to do this because actually they're saying that, oh, the servers are in Texas.

00:08:28.000 You don't have to worry about it.

00:08:29.000 Your data is not being shared at all.

00:08:31.000 Well, if that were true, then couldn't they just divest it on their own and set up their own new company?

00:08:36.000 So Jeff Yaz, who's this guy that's invested in it, couldn't he just set up like TikTok America and suddenly it comes out and it's founded in Texas, whatever, and do that.

00:08:47.000 But they won't do that.

00:08:48.000 And I can only believe that number one, the main reason is caused on one hand, but then number two is because they probably do have a very robust data sharing agreement.

00:08:58.000 I don't think it's a back door.

00:08:59.000 I think it's the door between your data and anything that's going on in the server farms in China, which of course are absolutely fully open to any Ministry of State Security, Second Bureau, PLA, Second Bureau operatives in the Chinese Intel community that they want.

00:09:17.000 So the question also is: can it apply to other apps?

00:09:19.000 We're streaming live on Rumble right now as the way the bill is written.

00:09:23.000 Rumble has Canadian connections, so that's not necessarily an adversary, but we're literally communicating on what application.

00:09:30.000 Yeah, well, right.

00:09:31.000 So Tyler, we're literally texting right now on Telegram.

00:09:34.000 We love Telegram.

00:09:35.000 My blessed loved Telegram, but they say Telegram is Russian.

00:09:39.000 Could they use this bill to ban Telegram?

00:09:41.000 Yeah, I think so.

00:09:43.000 I think so too.

00:09:44.000 People that say they can't, I mean, we had Raheem Why Respect and I reread the bill.

00:09:48.000 Telegram's totally on the chopping block here.

00:09:50.000 I don't know why anyone would think it is.

00:09:52.000 Like, am I wrong?

00:09:53.000 I mean, it's the sort of thing where they could probably sue you and a court could say, well, no, they're not owned by the Russian government.

00:10:00.000 And you can definitely make the case.

00:10:01.000 But then you can see them try to abuse the bill.

00:10:04.000 But whatever precedent that they make with TikTok will be applied.

00:10:08.000 What it's doing is it is creating a new tool in the toolbox that they could use.

00:10:14.000 And I think we always need to be wary of that because I guess this is taking a bigger step back here.

00:10:22.000 I'll be blunt.

00:10:23.000 Well, what do I see as the biggest threat to American freedoms right now?

00:10:27.000 I'll be honest.

00:10:28.000 I don't think it's the Chinese Communist Party.

00:10:30.000 The biggest threat to American freedoms as I enjoy practicing them is substantially other people in the United States.

00:10:38.000 It's large companies in the United States.

00:10:40.000 It's the United States government.

00:10:42.000 It's ideological actors in the United States.

00:10:45.000 China is an adversary in a lot of ways.

00:10:47.000 They compete with us.

00:10:48.000 They even sometimes want to hurt us.

00:10:51.000 But I don't think they have this same agenda of like maximizing restrictions on like my personal speech.

00:10:59.000 I don't think China actually cares that much about that.

00:11:01.000 Or even if they do.

00:11:02.000 I do agree, though, China's an enemy of the United States. 1.00

00:11:04.000 They are an adversary of the United States.

00:11:07.000 What is that difference?

00:11:07.000 I think, well, so I think enemy implies that they really would go out of their way to hurt us, even if we were not really important to them.

00:11:17.000 Like it is an express goal of theirs to hurt us as opposed to having the goal of like China being number one, China being the most powerful country, and the US is an obstacle to that.

00:11:28.000 Sure, but that's an enemy relationship, right?

00:11:32.000 Tomato tomato, but adversarial.

00:11:35.000 And but further than that, I just see a lot of stuff about like China owning TikTok is bad because China can use the algorithms in TikTok to destroy the United States. 0.70

00:11:46.000 Well, they're making our kids trans. 0.98

00:11:47.000 That is a real thing.

00:11:48.000 I don't think that's true.

00:11:49.000 Think Americans are making each other trans and making the kids trans, and it's convenient for them to blame China for this.

00:11:55.000 And I don't blame China.

00:11:56.000 If blame TikTok.

00:11:57.000 If TikTok, if TikTok gets sold off to a U.S. company, do you think that will make TikTok more woke or less woke?

00:12:04.000 Less woke.

00:12:05.000 Really?

00:12:06.000 I mean, for example, if Google bought this company, it would be less woke.

00:12:09.000 I mean, I can say, I can say things on Google and Instagram and Facebook.

00:12:11.000 I can't say on TikTok.

00:12:12.000 Why is that?

00:12:13.000 I don't actually think that's true.

00:12:14.000 It's 100% true.

00:12:15.000 And even if it is, I don't think if they bought them, that they would.

00:12:18.000 So for example, it's just take Facebook.

00:12:20.000 I can talk about trans issues all day long on Facebook.

00:12:23.000 I cannot on TikTok.

00:12:24.000 Yeah, but that's because Facebook is entirely dependent on boomers who don't like Obama for their bottom line. 0.53

00:12:28.000 But the employees, the employees.

00:12:31.000 To the extent TikTok is woke, it is because TikTok's American users and American employees and American political actors want TikTok to be woke.

00:12:42.000 Can I say why I disagree with you on that?

00:12:44.000 Because the way that TikTok is operating and the reason why Charlie's had the experience that he's had, which is what our organizations had in general, is that TikTok is only beholden essentially to the District of Columbia in the United States.

00:13:00.000 So the way that TikTok views how they moderate content is essentially all through just the District of Columbia, which isn't far off from Google, to be honest.

00:13:11.000 But at least Google and Facebook and other groups are a little bit beholden to the 50 states.

00:13:18.000 And why is that?

00:13:20.000 Because they're so dependent on their income that comes from the stores that they own.

00:13:27.000 The number one fear that the American companies have is that antitrust laws will be invoked in each of the 50 states.

00:13:37.000 And that's probably, and we don't take advantage of that enough.

00:13:40.000 We don't talk about this enough in the conservative movement.

00:13:43.000 But all 50 states, all the red states together collectively can effectively control Facebook and Google and Apple by flexing that muscle. 0.60

00:13:54.000 That muscle cannot be flexed right now against TikTok.

00:13:58.000 And so that's a real concern.

00:14:00.000 That's a legitimate concern.

00:14:02.000 That's part of the reason why I believe that the content moderation is much more severe because all they care about is what answer they get out of the District of Columbia as far as operating in the United States.

00:14:13.000 So having an American ownership element would help because if we do flex that muscle, which the Republicans have not, conservatives have not so far, then that gives some balance of power.

00:14:24.000 And that's part of the reason why I believe Facebook pulled back so significantly over the last two years.

00:14:30.000 But, you know, ahead of this next election, we'll see.

00:14:32.000 They could be worse than ever before.

00:14:35.000 Your argument could be proved valid.

00:14:37.000 I just don't think that we've invoked antitrust laws as much as we should.

00:14:41.000 So you don't think that the CCP manipulates the algorithms?

00:14:44.000 I don't even think they would know how to manipulate the algorithm.

00:14:47.000 Like if you wanted to manipulate China, if we owned an app in China, do you even think we know how to do that?

00:14:52.000 But then why is the Chinese TikTok different than our TikTok?

00:14:55.000 Someone's doing it. 0.97

00:14:55.000 Because China censors the crap out of their internet. 0.97

00:14:58.000 They just said they don't know how to do it. 0.98

00:14:59.000 China censors their internet.

00:15:01.000 And also, they're censoring it for Chinese people in China.

00:15:05.000 That's them doing the algorithm.

00:15:06.000 No, I'm not saying they don't know how to do algorithms.

00:15:08.000 I'm saying how would China, a country that actually doesn't understand America that well at all, like if you have American assets here.

00:15:16.000 Of course they do, but they're not really good at understanding America.

00:15:20.000 Do you think Xi Jinping understands what American meme culture is?

00:15:23.000 Do you think he even knows what a meme is?

00:15:25.000 He might not.

00:15:26.000 And China's own censorship in China is imperfect and extremely brute force.

00:15:33.000 They just have to blanket ban things because that's what they're able to do.

00:15:37.000 And then there's some stuff with AI.

00:15:39.000 And AI is very good at flagging, let's say, oh, find anything that looks like Winnie the Pooh and delete it because it's making fun of Xi Jinping.

00:15:48.000 But it's not very good at deducing that Winnie the Pooh is a meme in the first place.

00:15:54.000 You would need someone else to figure that out.

00:15:56.000 So, Jack, split the tie here.

00:15:58.000 Does the CCP are they in favor of manipulating the algorithm to try to push trans content or just, let's say, the more left-wing stuff that we see?

00:16:10.000 I think that it's probably overstated.

00:16:14.000 And this is what I said initially.

00:16:16.000 I don't think Xi Jinping is sitting there or that the Chinese Communist Party have a direct outlet that is focused on manipulating the algorithm.

00:16:25.000 What I do think that they're doing is those intelligence agencies and those intelligence services are using it for those purposes, using it for data collection purposes, reading messages that people are writing on there.

00:16:36.000 If you were son or daughter or even a high-level, high-profile individual, high-value target, whatever you call it, is using the app, then they're certainly going to be using that.

00:16:48.000 But as far as their algorithm, unfortunately, I think that number one, they're definitely not trying to make it positive.

00:16:56.000 But I do think that there's something that Blake is pointing out here that I think gets maybe to the heart of why we don't like TikTok.

00:17:04.000 And that's because so many of the users in the United States on TikTok are searching for those things because those things are becoming so popular.

00:17:12.000 And because more people are searching for them, then it's becoming, you know, this sort of like negative feedback loop, a toxic feedback loop, because this is what they know, quote unquote, does well on TikTok.

00:17:25.000 But it's not necessarily because the CCP wants it to, even though, of course, it is to the CCP's interest.

00:17:31.000 I think unfortunately, it's the United States and the culture, the youth culture, and the just really cultural degeneracy in this country that has taken so much hold.

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00:17:43.000 It reminds me a lot of a lot of conservatives know this video.

00:17:47.000 It's the former KGB guy, Discovery.

00:17:49.000 Gary Bezmanov.

00:17:50.000 Yeah, how you would undermine America.

00:17:52.000 And a lot of people see this and think, oh, that means all the things I don't like are a KGB plot.

00:17:57.000 And the answer really is if the KGB was involved in that, they just saw something that was already happening and they amplified it and probably not that effectively.

00:18:05.000 The real truth is, is we're looking at the mirror and not liking what we see.

00:18:10.000 And we're deciding like, oh, the Chinese did this. 0.97

00:18:12.000 And mostly we do it to ourselves.

00:18:14.000 And if we want to ban TikTok because the CCP is bad and we should take an asset away from them, that's fine.

00:18:20.000 But I don't think it's really going to fix any of the problems socially that we attribute to TikTok.

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00:19:18.000 All right, what do we have next?

00:19:20.000 Aaron Rodgers for vice president.

00:19:22.000 So this just broke on, I believe, late Monday that, or maybe it was Tuesday, that this is in the New York Times.

00:19:32.000 Aaron Rodgers and Jesse Ventura, top RFK juniors, list for running mate candidates.

00:19:39.000 I think that Aaron Rodgers would be brilliant.

00:19:41.000 You get 20 million eyeballs every single Sunday during election season.

00:19:46.000 And I just think it would be brilliant.

00:19:49.000 What am I missing here?

00:19:51.000 I don't think it would boost his actual take in the November elections.

00:19:56.000 And then I do wonder who it would draw more of.

00:19:58.000 I think it would take him under 1% of the vote.

00:20:00.000 I think it would actually hurt Trump more than Biden.

00:20:02.000 What do you think, Tyler?

00:20:03.000 Oh, for sure.

00:20:04.000 It doesn't help us.

00:20:07.000 Do you think Aaron Rodgers would do it?

00:20:09.000 Leverage.

00:20:10.000 I don't think.

00:20:11.000 Do you think the Jets would like the Jets might sue or something?

00:20:14.000 They release him.

00:20:15.000 I don't think the Jets would have to take all that dead cap money.

00:20:18.000 I think they might just have to grit it up. 0.99

00:20:20.000 Suck it up. 1.00

00:20:21.000 What are they paying him? 1.00

00:20:22.000 30 or 40 million a year now?

00:20:23.000 Something like that.

00:20:24.000 Yeah.

00:20:24.000 They'd release him or bench him.

00:20:26.000 You think so?

00:20:26.000 I just, I can't imagine that.

00:20:27.000 It'd be too expensive.

00:20:28.000 They went all in on Rodgers and then he got hurt.

00:20:31.000 Back to Zach Wilson, everybody.

00:20:33.000 I just can't imagine them doing that.

00:20:35.000 It'd be very funny.

00:20:37.000 I want it to happen just because it would be extremely entertaining.

00:20:40.000 And that's a good rule for what to do in politics these days.

00:20:44.000 Part of the fun, by the way, the Daily Beast reports today, Aaron Rodgers was on another ayahuasca vacation.

00:20:50.000 Another?

00:20:50.000 Yeah.

00:20:50.000 He's got to watch out this time.

00:20:51.000 In Costa Rica.

00:20:52.000 We should do a thought crime on Ayahuasca.

00:20:54.000 Yeah.

00:20:54.000 It's not good.

00:20:56.000 When the news broke, he apparently was blindsided by the New York Times.

00:21:00.000 He had no idea it was coming.

00:21:01.000 He thought he was still on his trip.

00:21:03.000 Yeah, according to NFL puncher Pat McCaffey, who has that show now, the quote, the world.

00:21:08.000 McAfee.

00:21:09.000 McAfee, whatever. 1.00

00:21:10.000 I don't follow this crap. 1.00

00:21:11.000 It's okay. 0.99

00:21:14.000 The world found out while that man was in Costa Rica ready to sit with the medicine, as he calls it.

00:21:22.000 And McAfee said he spoke with a source about the situation, implying the source was Rodgers himself, and said he is not 100% sure that the quarterback for the New York Jets necessarily knew the New York Times was going to be reporting that he was potentially going to be vice president.

00:21:39.000 You guys realize, like, and again, I like Aaron Rodgers.

00:21:43.000 I like him.

00:21:44.000 I like him a lot.

00:21:45.000 I didn't know he had three Achilles heels here, but like, this is, do you understand out of the woodwork?

00:21:52.000 And again, everybody we know gets their entire life completely investigated.

00:21:58.000 The stuff that professional athletes have in their skeletons in their closet is beyond any normal citizen on earth.

00:22:06.000 And we just let it go.

00:22:07.000 But when you run for president and vice president, those things aren't let go.

00:22:12.000 It will make Trump's, the stuff that they, the skeletons they pulled out on Trump look like nothing.

00:22:17.000 Well, with the key difference that I think we can agree, at the least, RFK is not going to be elected president.

00:22:22.000 He's not he could, he could if he's polling high.

00:22:27.000 I just, my, the reason I don't think it would boost his candidacy is I think it would create the sense that this is all a carnival act.

00:22:35.000 It's a joke that a lot of people like Aaron Rodgers.

00:22:39.000 A lot of people agree with Aaron Rodgers.

00:22:40.000 They like that he is willing to say whatever comes to mind on McAfee's show, that he'll say whatever about the vaccine or anything like that.

00:22:48.000 But there's a big leap from that to I literally like the idea of Aaron Rodgers as second in command of the United States of America.

00:22:57.000 And I think...

00:22:58.000 Yeah, but it's a gimmick, obviously.

00:23:00.000 It's a gimmick, right?

00:23:01.000 Okay, then you have a president, a presidential candidate who's running as a gimmick.

00:23:06.000 And I think you saw that it was, I think you even saw that with Ross Perot, actually, that it went a bit downhill as a result of that.

00:23:14.000 Like it was just perceived that he was like a little too weird and out there, even though on policy, he had a lot of stuff to like, a lot of stuff we would agree with today.

00:23:22.000 But people do, most voters take the idea of becoming president pretty seriously.

00:23:28.000 And I think it would just make this all a huge joke if he was.

00:23:32.000 So what do you think, Jack?

00:23:34.000 If Aaron Rod, first of all, just strategically, you couldn't buy the earned media.

00:23:41.000 You couldn't buy the earned media that Aaron, because Aaron Rodgers would be on Sunday night football.

00:23:46.000 They might bench him.

00:23:47.000 You're right.

00:23:47.000 They might release him because he would hijack the prime time of the prime time.

00:23:52.000 He would wear just like a Rogers Kennedy socks or whatever.

00:23:56.000 Okay, but before I get to that, we got to play Cut 80, then I want Jack's reaction.

00:24:01.000 Well, there's ideas that some of the noises from the Dolphins when they're love making, the frequency of that is actually healing to the body.

00:24:12.000 What is this?

00:24:13.000 I believe Aaron Rodgers listened to dolphin sex sounds to heal his injuries because the frequency aids the kids.

00:24:20.000 That's an old tape.

00:24:21.000 That's what McAfee was at Boulder when people thought Deion Sanders was a good coach.

00:24:24.000 Well, he's not allowed to go on McAfee anymore.

00:24:26.000 No, but by the way, they brought him back.

00:24:28.000 I think they brought him back.

00:24:29.000 Oh, did they?

00:24:30.000 Or at least, are you sure?

00:24:31.000 I thought he was banned for him.

00:24:32.000 I thought he was banned.

00:24:34.000 I thought they said no.

00:24:35.000 But I actually have a theory about this entire thing.

00:24:37.000 I think this is all a plant to get to make Kennedy look more conservative by the liberal media.

00:24:45.000 That could be.

00:24:46.000 And this is entirely, none of this is true.

00:24:48.000 Like Jesse Ventura, like, like literally Aaron Rodgers, it's just people that have agreed publicly that are liked more by conservatives.

00:24:58.000 And they're trying to give Kennedy and Kennedy might even take the bait with this thing, right?

00:25:04.000 Which is like, oh, I need to have someone more conservative as my VP.

00:25:08.000 Jack, sorry, it's hard when you're this remote setup.

00:25:11.000 Go ahead, Jack.

00:25:12.000 The floor is yours.

00:25:15.000 Yeah, man, it's not like we interview people remote ever.

00:25:18.000 So when you look at this question with Aaron Rodgers, I just don't know that he would do it.

00:25:25.000 To be honest, it just doesn't seem like it's something that he would be interested in that much.

00:25:31.000 It's obviously not a huge part of his life politics.

00:25:34.000 He's done some podcasts.

00:25:35.000 He's done some stuff, but that's really it.

00:25:36.000 He's never really run for anything.

00:25:38.000 And I think when people first get involved in something like this, they realize how nasty it is and they just don't want to get into it.

00:25:44.000 But then, you know, what I thought was really interesting, though, if you actually read through the report, there were two other names that they mentioned that, again, according to sources, that RFK had reached out to, one of which was Rand Paul.

00:25:58.000 And apparently one of Rand's strategists is also working as a consultant for RFK's campaign.

00:26:04.000 Obviously, there's a lot of connective tissue and where those guys stand on a number of issues.

00:26:08.000 And apparently they had had some conversations.

00:26:11.000 Rand Paul, though, came out unequivocally and said, I don't want to get involved with the campaign.

00:26:15.000 And another person they had been apparently was, and again, this, you know, if we were, if we trust, you know, the NBC reporting here, but Tulsi Gabbard was apparently being vetted at one point by RFK, but she has now pulled out of that.

00:26:32.000 And as we all know, has been getting a little bit closer to the Trump camp, holding a meeting with President Trump at some point over the past year.

00:26:42.000 She was at Mar-a-Lago, I think, like last night or the night before for a not a Trump fundraiser, but a separate fundraiser.

00:26:48.000 But, you know, it's very interesting kind of seeing some of these names in the mix in this VP race that could go for Kennedy and then potentially use that as a way to kind of springboard over to Trump to hear, oh, you know, it's kind of like when you're trying to play one employer after another, get a higher salary.

00:27:06.000 It's like, oh, I might go to Kennedy, but I could come over here.

00:27:09.000 So I don't know.

00:27:09.000 Here's the problem, Charlie, that Kennedy has.

00:27:12.000 And it's a problem for all of us, actually, to be to be perfectly square, is that all the polling is showing that Kennedy's dividing the Biden independent support and not really pulling enough from the Trump independent support.

00:27:27.000 So Trump's number on independence is like 40% on most of the polling that we're seeing, where he's pulling 40 in a two-way race.

00:27:38.000 Trump may win that, but it's clearly he's pulling more from the Biden independent source.

00:27:45.000 So the way that if I'm just like a just a very novice political onlooker here with Kennedy, it's like, well, I need to pull more independents first from Trump in order to have any kind of shot at winning.

00:28:00.000 And then I need to obviously pull more Republicans.

00:28:02.000 If I'm not pulling more independents, conservative independents, I'm definitely not going to pull more conservatives in general.

00:28:08.000 It sounds like a gimmick, but if it happens, I think that I disagree.

00:28:12.000 I don't think it would be 1%. 0.82

00:28:14.000 But I mean, it would be stupid for RFK in the sense if you want people to take your ticket like super seriously.

00:28:20.000 It would be probably smarter for RFK to pick. 0.85

00:28:23.000 Let's think who it would be smart.

00:28:24.000 Like if we were to give him another person named in the article is Yang.

00:28:28.000 Andrew Yang would be interesting.

00:28:30.000 That doesn't pull conservatives, though.

00:28:32.000 To that point, I'm saying is like he's looking at it and going, see, the prism of polling of, oh my gosh, I'm not winning enough conservatives.

00:28:39.000 Think about, so who else would be like a top-level free thinker?

00:28:45.000 Just think of who goes on Joe Rogan.

00:28:47.000 That's basically how we Joe Rogan.

00:28:49.000 Yeah.

00:28:50.000 Joe Rogan wouldn't do it.

00:28:53.000 I'm trying to think.

00:28:54.000 The problem with the conservative movement is now is like for him, it doesn't buy him anything to play with like the establishment arm because the establishment arm is effectively and the Republican side is effectively supporting Biden.

00:29:09.000 So he can't pull anyone.

00:29:10.000 And then anyone that's not in the establishment arm doesn't want to cross Trump.

00:29:15.000 So this is part of the problem.

00:29:16.000 And it's interesting just because he's a he kind of is appealing to moderates, but then his kind of big distinct issue is obviously the vaccine stuff.

00:29:28.000 And so you could think, oh, should he try to get a mainstream politician?

00:29:32.000 Like, what if he grabbed Manchin or something and played to the middle?

00:29:35.000 But all that would then go against everything he's done in terms of his advocacy on more eccentric issues.

00:29:42.000 So yeah, maybe it's going to end up being Aaron Rodgers.

00:29:45.000 Apparently, according to the Times, Kennedy Rogers got registered on GoDaddy last week.

00:29:50.000 I'm sure somebody.

00:29:52.000 Oh, I'm sure somebody saw it.

00:29:53.000 Someone knew it was someone in the New York Times.

00:29:55.000 Maybe I got a friend who just does that all the time.

00:29:58.000 The domain.

00:29:59.000 I mean, I think Kennedy's best move, if you were wanting to split conservatives, and I really, I hate saying this in public because I just don't want to give him ideas.

00:30:08.000 I don't want to give people, I don't like putting things into the ether, but I think the smartest move is to pick up like a libertarian-esque, like someone legitimate, though, that was like a former governor.

00:30:20.000 Like in this situation, like Gary Johnson.

00:30:23.000 If this was years ago, right, Gary Johnson hadn't already run and destroyed his political career.

00:30:28.000 And destroyed his political career.

00:30:29.000 If this was like a Kennedy and Johnson never run type situation, that's a little bit scary.

00:30:33.000 Or Kennedy Ron Paul.

00:30:35.000 Yeah, or Kennedy Ron Paul, right?

00:30:36.000 Like that would be.

00:30:37.000 If we de-age Ron Paul, you know what I'm saying?

00:30:39.000 It's like 90 now.

00:30:40.000 But just the premise of it, like, is like, that's what's probably most frightening to splitting the vote because then that basically legitimizes in a significant way.

00:30:48.000 It turns the independent run that is lean Democrat, tilt Democrat, to like a tilt maybe.

00:30:54.000 That's what he's thinking, though.

00:30:55.000 He's thinking towards tilt libertarian, which is why Jesse Ventura is.

00:30:59.000 I'm making no mistake.

00:31:00.000 This will probably not be the last time RFK runs for president.

00:31:02.000 So he'll probably do this two or three more times and try to build a coalition each time and name ID.

00:31:07.000 And by the way, final thing I'll say on RFK before we get to Noble Gold.

00:31:11.000 RFK was not platformed on major news networks.

00:31:14.000 He was kind of a laughing stock just thought on the vaccine issue.

00:31:17.000 I mean, he has, he's like totally changed his persona.

00:31:21.000 He's taken seriously.

00:31:22.000 He's more viral, more well-known.

00:31:25.000 So it's been a total win.

00:31:27.000 He's kind of a guy that will never stop running for president, right?

00:31:29.000 I mean, he's just the guy that for 2028.

00:31:32.000 Yeah, go ahead, Jack.

00:31:33.000 2028 is going to be open seat.

00:31:34.000 Yeah.

00:31:35.000 No, I know.

00:31:36.000 So, I mean, if you're RFK, you know, you're not, you don't become president in this cycle.

00:31:39.000 You might win 10 million votes or 15 million votes and you call it a start, right?

00:31:42.000 You just keep on the small dollar donation army and you just keep on doing interviews.

00:31:46.000 You know what I mean?

00:31:47.000 You just kind of keep on doing interviews.

00:31:49.000 Okay, what's next?

00:31:51.000 Boeing was he murdered?

00:31:55.000 Well, just talking about Boeing in general.

00:31:56.000 I have to be very careful when I talk about airlines and pilots.

00:31:59.000 That's fair.

00:32:00.000 That's fair.

00:32:01.000 Why they just keep making themselves.

00:32:03.000 Jack, I said things, I guess, that were too true.

00:32:05.000 Yeah.

00:32:05.000 So the news story here is there is a whistleblower against Boeing who was in a lawsuit with them, had just recently given testimony in a deposition for his case against them.

00:32:19.000 He was scheduled to give more last Saturday, and then he was found dead in the parking lot of a holiday inn with a bullet wound in the head, which had proven fatal.

00:32:31.000 And in fact, already the CEO of Boeing has come out and delivered a public statement about this.

00:32:37.000 Let's play clip 90.

00:32:39.000 I can't believe you committed suicide.

00:32:42.000 I cannot believe you committed suicide.

00:32:45.000 How could you have done this?

00:32:46.000 How could you have committed suicide?

00:32:49.000 It's from some bad movie in 2011 or so.

00:32:52.000 But obviously, it's very similar to what the reaction is.

00:32:55.000 Richard Lewis?

00:32:56.000 It's some guy who's an eccentric who makes bad movies, but I don't want to get too far into that.

00:33:01.000 But obviously, that's the reaction of a lot of people.

00:33:04.000 You can probably guess what my unpopular reaction is going to be, and all the comments are going to call me Boeing Blake over it.

00:33:10.000 But I suspect he wasn't murdered by Boeing.

00:33:14.000 Why do you immediately go to the normie explanation?

00:33:16.000 I'm not saying you're not.

00:33:17.000 Normie explanations are usually true.

00:33:20.000 Are they in like modern time?

00:33:22.000 Yeah, I'd say I can name three examples where that wasn't the case.

00:33:25.000 Can you name three examples of whistleblowers getting murdered?

00:33:28.000 Vince Foster, do you think he killed himself?

00:33:31.000 Probably.

00:33:33.000 Do I think the Clinton's murder?

00:33:34.000 That's the question.

00:33:35.000 Vince Foster.

00:33:37.000 I don't know all the details.

00:33:40.000 I don't see why it'd be weird for a guy to basically kill himself or turn into a wreck and die.

00:33:45.000 I got you to play.

00:33:47.000 So just on this example.

00:33:48.000 Did Epstein kill himself?

00:33:49.000 Maybe.

00:33:50.000 Probably.

00:33:51.000 No way.

00:33:53.000 I don't know.

00:33:53.000 No.

00:33:54.000 And even if he didn't, it's like Epstein being an actual intelligence operative potentially with possibly multiple countries.

00:34:02.000 There's way more layers of like this.

00:34:04.000 Actually, ropes in people who would both have a reason to kill him and the means to do it.

00:34:09.000 Boeing or Epstein?

00:34:10.000 With Epstein.

00:34:11.000 Oh, okay. 0.90

00:34:11.000 So Epstein, it's like, okay, if he was with Massad, Massad actually does kill people. 0.90

00:34:15.000 We know they've killed people.

00:34:16.000 I'm just trying to see the line of people.

00:34:17.000 Boeing, here's what I'll say.

00:34:19.000 I looked into this when news broke.

00:34:21.000 And yes, he was a Boeing whistleblower.

00:34:23.000 That is true.

00:34:24.000 But they say, oh, he was giving testimony against Boeing.

00:34:27.000 Well, in what?

00:34:28.000 In a lawsuit that he brought against Boeing.

00:34:31.000 It is a wrongful title.

00:34:32.000 Of course.

00:34:33.000 It is a wrongful termination lawsuit.

00:34:37.000 I think it was a retaliation lawsuit.

00:34:38.000 He's suing Boeing, saying Boeing ruined his career because he was calling out problems with Boeing.

00:34:45.000 And he's suing them.

00:34:46.000 And he's been doing this for more than half a decade.

00:34:48.000 He got, I believe, got pushed out in 2017.

00:34:50.000 He's been suing them at least since 2019 because that's when he was interviewed by the BBC over this.

00:34:56.000 He is in a long-running legal battle with Boeing on a personal scale.

00:35:03.000 So this is not some trillion-dollar lawsuit where if the, you know, his next day's testimony might decide whether they're convicted or not.

00:35:09.000 It's just his personal lawsuit with them.

00:35:12.000 So in that context, it makes a lot more sense to me that this is a guy who perceives his life as getting ruined by Boeing, and he's been doing this for years on end.

00:35:23.000 Unfortunately, maybe this eventually he's already depressive.

00:35:26.000 Maybe he had substance abuse problems.

00:35:28.000 It could be any number of things.

00:35:29.000 And this culminated in him killing himself.

00:35:33.000 And no one had heard of this guy until his death.

00:35:36.000 So I guess if he also was feeling suicidal anyway and he wanted to hurt Boeing, this certainly is a way to do it.

00:35:42.000 Yeah, but I mean, not everybody knew who Jeffrey Epstein was before he killed himself.

00:35:46.000 Everyone knew who Jeffrey Epstein was.

00:35:49.000 There were memes about that.

00:35:50.000 Hold on a second.

00:35:51.000 Do you think a majority of Americans knew who Jeffrey Epstein was before he killed himself?

00:35:55.000 Yes or no?

00:35:57.000 A majority?

00:35:58.000 No.

00:35:59.000 Yeah.

00:35:59.000 Okay.

00:35:59.000 I think he was pretty well known.

00:36:03.000 Yes.

00:36:04.000 How about even though he was a little bit more than a hundred?

00:36:05.000 It was a popular meme that he would kill himself before. 0.63

00:36:07.000 It was a popular meme that he would kill himself.

00:36:09.000 Remember, it was like a 30-day arrest.

00:36:13.000 There was a 30-60-day lag between arrest and Epstein gradually built up in fame, but he was 100% a big deal before his suicide, which is why his suicide was such a big deal in the first place.

00:36:27.000 Because people are always claiming everyone who died was actually murdered by the deep state.

00:36:32.000 So, Jack, do you, I think, Jack, you and I, when we see stories like this, what was strange for me, though, what was strange for me, though, was that, you know, I was reading the news, and apparently, over in Russia, there was a whistleblower of the Russian, I think, Aeroflot is their big, you know, communist airliner or whatever.

00:36:53.000 And they had a whistleblower, and their whistleblower was found shot in the head as well by Vladimir Putin, who is standing there with a shoot smoking gun.

00:37:05.000 And so, so, clearly, clearly, there's just an epidemic of suicides going on.

00:37:09.000 The other one I thought of was: what if it wasn't suicide?

00:37:13.000 What if he had actually just ridden a Boeing plane recently and fell out?

00:37:17.000 Yeah, so this is getting bad.

00:37:18.000 Every day, there's a Boeing problem.

00:37:20.000 I do wonder about that because do you think it's confirmation bias?

00:37:23.000 I wonder about that, just in the sense we know we know that we know there are feeding frenzy type stories where something becomes a big deal.

00:37:31.000 So, they look for all of these.

00:37:32.000 Some of these are for real.

00:37:33.000 You know, window blows out and there's a catastrophic decompression, and the plane nearly crashes, people nearly die.

00:37:40.000 That's a real story.

00:37:41.000 But a lot of these stories we've had in this past week are stories like flight out of San Francisco has a minor mechanical issue, turns around and lands again.

00:37:51.000 And I think planes do that.

00:37:55.000 My gut feeling is that happens relatively often, just like planes turn around because they have uncalled passengers.

00:38:01.000 Well, there's only really two companies that even make planes, so it's going to be Boeing or Airbus.

00:38:07.000 And so, just from that, and I think there's more Boeing's than Airbuses in the U.S.

00:38:11.000 So, but I think a lot of them were 737s, right?

00:38:13.000 For sure, yes.

00:38:14.000 The 737 has real issues.

00:38:17.000 I don't know.

00:38:18.000 Yeah, there are real issues, real safety concerns.

00:38:21.000 Didn't they say they used like hand sanitizer or something to like?

00:38:25.000 Yes, they audited after that uh decompression incident.

00:38:28.000 They did a quick audit and they found that out of I think 96 processes or so, I think 31 of them they failed.

00:38:35.000 And two, two of the most simple things they saw is they were using dish soap as an emergency lubricant and they were using uh like a credit card, a plastic credit card as a as a tool in some capacity.

00:38:46.000 So, this is something in their factories.

00:38:48.000 And the big picture here that I think is interesting is everyone's debating what's causing the decline of Boeing, and it's not the easiest thing to answer.

00:38:58.000 Now, an obvious thing to blame is DEI.

00:39:01.000 I don't think I think you can very reasonably, they're a very loud pro-DEI company.

00:39:07.000 They made big DEI commitments in 2020.

00:39:10.000 That's not surprising because Boeing is such a big defense and government contractor, and all of those companies just fall all over themselves to adopt whatever the Washington ideology is these days.

00:39:21.000 But it's also Boeing is so immense.

00:39:23.000 They're such a huge company.

00:39:25.000 They produce these products that take a decade or more to design and prototype and build.

00:39:31.000 And then they have a service life of decades on end.

00:39:35.000 So stuff, Boeing is very obviously going bad now.

00:39:40.000 We might be looking at things that started to go wrong 20 years ago that are really only manifesting now.

00:39:46.000 And it's interesting to look into this because one of the stories, this is just sort of a more boring take, but a take I've seen in a lot of places is in the mid-90s, Boeing bought McDonnell Douglas, which was another major jet manufacturer.

00:40:01.000 And what's funny is Boeing bought the company, but the sort of take from insiders is it's really more like McDonnell Douglas bought Boeing because they absorbed all of these executives from them.

00:40:13.000 And these guys were better at being executives, basically.

00:40:17.000 And so they took over Boeing.

00:40:18.000 So for example, the former head of McDonnell Douglas becomes Boeing's CEO in the early 2000s.

00:40:24.000 And what McDonnell Douglas was, is they were not as much an engineering company.

00:40:28.000 Boeing was all West Coast, Silicon Valley, engineering.

00:40:32.000 It was an engineer-led company, very focused on the product.

00:40:35.000 McDonnell Douglas was a businessman-led company, very focused on the bottom line.

00:40:39.000 So they spun off all of Boeing's operations.

00:40:42.000 So now their planes aren't built by Boeing and Boeing factories.

00:40:46.000 Instead, Boeing is just assembling parts made by 500 different contractors and subcontractors.

00:40:51.000 And there's a lot of reason to believe this is what ruined Boeing is they spun off everything that they controlled themselves and they ruined their culture of perfectionism.

00:41:00.000 And now we have this company that slaps things together and, you know, saying, you know, 99% certainty is pretty good.

00:41:08.000 And then they start having all these problems.

00:41:11.000 Final thoughts on this topic, Jack?

00:41:15.000 I think that's a huge part of it.

00:41:17.000 And by the way, we really should be asking questions as to Nikki Haley's role or whatever role she played in any of this, the move from the Seattle area to South Carolina.

00:41:28.000 Obviously, Nikki Haley played a huge part.

00:41:30.000 And that's what won her the board seat on Boeing.

00:41:34.000 And so why is it that we have this politician who was running for president and yet there was no question about it whatsoever?

00:41:41.000 The media didn't bring it up.

00:41:42.000 I don't even really remember Trump bringing it up that much.

00:41:44.000 And frankly, I think it's something that when we do have politicians that are this clearly bought off by one of these failing companies like this, we should be asking those questions.

00:41:53.000 And especially with Boeing, in many ways, similar to Aeroflot and similar to what we were saying about TikTok, Boeing is by and large a state-owned or at least state-related enterprise in the United States.

00:42:04.000 And it's kind of silly that we don't talk about it like that.

00:42:07.000 Okay, next topic.

00:42:08.000 Final topic.

00:42:08.000 This one goes to Jack.

00:42:09.000 It's James K. Polk's America.

00:42:11.000 All right.

00:42:11.000 Yes.

00:42:12.000 How America, Tyler has strong opinions on this too.

00:42:14.000 It's blowing up the chat.

00:42:15.000 I love this.

00:42:15.000 Jack Lee.

00:42:16.000 I love this.

00:42:17.000 Well, so this is kind of a conception that we've talked about for a long time.

00:42:21.000 And if we have the map, it's probably easier to just show it to everybody.

00:42:25.000 And so Polk and people remember that he was a president during the Mexican-American War.

00:42:32.000 And there was this question after the war, kind of like, what would America look like during or after the war?

00:42:39.000 America wins, Mexico is defeated. 0.89

00:42:42.000 It's like this resounding victory.

00:42:44.000 And of course, everyone remembers, or everyone knows as now.

00:42:47.000 So we get Arizona, we get California, we get the current borders.

00:42:49.000 We don't get Baja, California.

00:42:52.000 Polk at one point was actually calling for full on, right?

00:42:56.000 Full on Baja, California, the entire northern half of Mexico, the island of Cuba, the Yucatan Peninsula, though notably, and perhaps perhaps presciently, not Haiti.

00:43:11.000 So the question is not necessarily so much.

00:43:14.000 And there's a long conversation that we had offline, you know, kind of about like what would the politics of the region have been had this actually gone forward.

00:43:22.000 But there is a sense, I think, as well of why is it that we as Americans just limit ourselves to thinking that, oh, well, you know, this is where the border is and this is where this treaty was and that's the end of it.

00:43:35.000 And we sort of lost that spirit, that pioneering spirit of manifest destiny.

00:43:39.000 I mean, why did manifest destiny have to stop?

00:43:41.000 And is that a good thing?

00:43:43.000 Tyler, you have strong opinions about this, about what could have been in the American Southwest.

00:43:47.000 Yeah, I mean, we talk about this all the time.

00:43:50.000 You know, in the Gadsden Purchase, we should have acquired more of Mexico.

00:43:56.000 And the history is pretty simple.

00:43:58.000 Most Americans actually don't know this history at all.

00:44:01.000 The Mexican armies were horrible. 1.00

00:44:04.000 You know, they pillaged, raped, killed. 0.96

00:44:08.000 I mean, the episode, it's so funny because you see the Marxists today in California, Arizona talk about how, like, oh, indigenous people, and they, and they loop in, you know.

00:44:21.000 That's like La Raza, right?

00:44:23.000 Hispanic people. 0.99

00:44:24.000 It's like, actually, the historic Hispanic peoples of Mexico raped and pillaged and killed so many Native Americans. 1.00

00:44:34.000 And actually, the only saving grace was that a lot of in Arizona and Arizona history, you know, white pioneers came to Arizona and actually defended some of the Native American tribes from other tribes and from the Mexican armies and pushed them back.

00:44:47.000 And then that led to the Mexican-American War and yada yada yada.

00:44:50.000 But that fast forwards to this whole concept is like, should we have acquired Baja California?

00:44:56.000 Should we have more of Sonora and Chihuahua?

00:44:59.000 And the answer is yes.

00:45:01.000 Like the reason, why shouldn't we have taken on more?

00:45:05.000 Think about all that prime real estate in Baja California.

00:45:09.000 And the big question is today, is if we had Baja California, would that be a more conservative version of California?

00:45:14.000 Would California be less liberal because of that?

00:45:17.000 You know, I don't know.

00:45:18.000 I don't even know if you need to think of it in terms of liberal conservative today.

00:45:23.000 This is a controversial way of framing it, but one of the simplest ways of putting it is, would it have been better for the inhabitants of Chihuahua, Sonora, Sinaloa?

00:45:33.000 Those are all of those states that you can see on the screen are the northern parts.

00:45:38.000 Those are all the northern states of Mexico.

00:45:40.000 At the time when this war was being fought, those were almost, I don't want to say totally empty, but they were very lightly populated.

00:45:47.000 I checked a census for Mexico around 1900, and you're looking at about maybe a million people across all those territories.

00:45:54.000 And that's 50 years later.

00:45:56.000 So 50 years before that, it's probably under half a million.

00:45:59.000 And so if those areas had been part of the United States, then they would have had the benefit of United States government, United States stability, United States settlement patterns.

00:46:09.000 Instead, they were in Mexico.

00:46:10.000 And if you read a history of Mexico, it's really bad.

00:46:13.000 Mexico is just entirely big on that.

00:46:17.000 Yeah, I just read it recently.

00:46:18.000 The book was titled Fire and Blood, which tells you everything you need to know about its contents.

00:46:23.000 Mexico is an enormously unstable country.

00:46:25.000 It's an enormously violent country.

00:46:28.000 To the extent Mexico is viable at all, it's mostly just because it's adjacent to this huge economic power of the United States to somewhat keep it viable as a country and not totally disintegrating into like warlords, like it's some medieval state.

00:46:46.000 And so it's you think in terms of would it have just been better if the United States, the stronger country, had been running those areas?

00:46:54.000 And it's awkward because you don't like to just say, oh, we should just kick in the door and take stuff over.

00:46:58.000 But that is basically what we did for California, Texas, Colorado, New Mexico.

00:47:03.000 And would you rather live in California, New Mexico, Arizona, Texas?

00:47:08.000 Or would you rather live in Tijuana and Ciudad Juarez in those places?

00:47:14.000 And well, Ciudad Juarez has its ups and downs, but most years, it's one of the deadliest cities on planet Earth.

00:47:21.000 What could have been?

00:47:23.000 Yeah, final thought, Jack.

00:47:25.000 No, I was just going to throw out there.

00:47:27.000 Blake, have you ever heard the story about when L. Ron Hubbard was in the Navy and accidentally invaded Mexico?

00:47:33.000 I have not.

00:47:35.000 Yes, the L. Ron Hubbard, who he was supposed to be doing this.

00:47:39.000 Finder of Scientology.

00:47:40.000 He was in the Navy.

00:47:41.000 He was supposed to be doing this escort of a new aircraft carrier out of San Diego with like this little picket ship, which had actual shells and artillery on it and all this other stuff.

00:47:54.000 And he accidentally went, his navigation was not so great.

00:47:58.000 And so he actually went south of the border there in like 19, like during World War II, goes south of the maritime border and ends up on the Mexican side.

00:48:09.000 And like the Mexican Navy, this is like south of Coronado Island and all that.

00:48:13.000 The Mexican Navy actually sailed up and be like, excuse me, what is going on here?

00:48:18.000 And you know, it's kind of amazing in the whole story of L. Ron Hubbard.

00:48:23.000 We just mentioned McDonnell Douglas.

00:48:24.000 And in L. Ron Hubbard's cosmology for Scientology, it was Douglas DC8 that brought the alien souls to Earth.

00:48:32.000 It was the DCAs, yeah.

00:48:33.000 Douglas DC8s were to drop the souls into the volcano before they were blown up with atomic bombs.

00:48:39.000 Well, the Pheton.

00:48:40.000 The Thetans, is that what it was?

00:48:41.000 Yeah, we are all Thetans.

00:48:42.000 We are all Thetans in Scientology.

00:48:44.000 We have to hear the Thetans.

00:48:49.000 So Thetans are what we're doing. 1.00

00:48:50.000 I heard the same thing.

00:48:51.000 A Thetan is a human body. 0.99

00:48:53.000 Okay.

00:48:53.000 But I think we also have the alien spirits in us.

00:48:55.000 So you want to get rid of them.

00:48:56.000 The Phaeton is the shell.

00:48:58.000 Yes.

00:48:58.000 So it all circles back to Scientology.

00:49:01.000 That's it.

00:49:02.000 I have a problem with that, Matt, before we go.

00:49:04.000 One, we should definitely...

00:49:05.000 If he hadn't invaded Mexico, if it had been part of Baja California, then he wouldn't have accidentally invaded Mexico, which means he wouldn't, his Navy service may have been better, which means we may not have gotten Scientology if James Polker got in his way.

00:49:17.000 Would have been a win.

00:49:18.000 But the point, the bigger picture for today is we should aspire to a grand, greater America.

00:49:23.000 And that's why we should buy Greenland from Denmark.

00:49:26.000 Yes. 0.95

00:49:27.000 And we should annex Antarctica.

00:49:30.000 Hard to disagree.

00:49:31.000 Greenland, 100% Republican state, by the way.

00:49:34.000 All right.

00:49:34.000 Check out the Rumble Cloud.

00:49:35.000 Thank you guys for watching.

00:49:36.000 Till next week, keep committing thought crimes.

00:49:41.000 Thanks so much for listening.

00:49:42.000 Everybody, email us as always freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:49:45.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.

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