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00:01:41.000Well, so it seems like people have talked about this for two years and it went nowhere.
00:01:45.000And then suddenly it just went everywhere in one week.
00:01:47.000Congress just like all unravels and they're gonna ban TikTok, possibly.
00:01:53.000The U.S. House voted pretty overwhelmingly.
00:01:56.000Most Republicans, most Democrats, advanced a piece of legislation, which, to be specific, empowers the White House, the president, to designate an app as owned by a foreign adversary government.
00:02:09.000And then they have a time limit of a few months to divest themselves of that app.
00:02:13.000And if they do not do so, then it is banned from U.S. app stores, which means the iPhone, Apple App Store, Microsoft App Store, Google's, and so on.
00:03:11.000You know, I'm coming at this from a guy who spent the better part of 18 years either learning about the CCP or focused on China.
00:03:20.000And I've never seen this level of support for something that is just on its face anti-CCP before.
00:03:27.000So right there, that just gives me pause to say, wait a minute, is there something else going on?
00:03:31.000Is there something weird, something amiss?
00:03:34.000Because I've never seen this in Washington, D.C. ever in 18 years act like this before.
00:03:40.000In general, in general, yes, 100% divest TikTok from the CCP.
00:03:47.000However, comma, I do have pause as to what the actual guts of this bill are.
00:03:54.000I know you and I both had Rakeem Kassam on today.
00:03:56.000He says he's gone through it and hasn't seen any issues in the exact wording of it, but I'd love to do a little bit more of a deep dive to make sure that there aren't any of these kind of hidden meanings or hidden effects from the thing.
00:04:10.000In general, though, of course, this is something that I would support.
00:04:14.000I don't know about this specific bill enough, but in general, yes.
00:04:18.000Tyler, how are we scoring this or looking at this?
00:04:20.000And what was the vote tally in the House?
00:04:22.000And kind of walk our audience through the Freedom Caucus versus MAGA wing.
00:04:27.000So not everyone in the Freedom Caucus opposed it, but a good chunk of the Freedom Caucus did.
00:04:32.000So what I think a lot of people would consider the most conservative members of the Freedom Caucus that are like the kind of go-to, the Andy Biggses and co, that kind of the former Freedom Caucus shell, Matt Gates, others, they opposed it.
00:04:50.000And part of the reason why I'm hearing that their opposition to this is because it gives way too much control to the executive branch to make determinations.
00:05:00.000And there's a concern that the determination is that they could score an American company as being too foreign or foreign influenced, in which case then that could ultimately just give the executive branch the control and power to start wheels of motion and really ahead of this next election, shut down social media again.
00:05:24.000So is that, so Blake, that's what some people have said is that this can be then used and abused.
00:05:32.000Some people say that's just what the government does.
00:05:35.000Yeah, I guess I feel like with any piece of legislation that comes together very quickly, and it just does seem like this came together very quickly after a lot of stalling out and then everyone's saying, we're going to do this right now.
00:05:50.000And even if it's not intended to be abused, even if it is written in a manner to prevent abuses, I just, I feel like the trust level with the federal government is low and always going lower.
00:06:03.000And, you know, just like glancing through this, it gives the power to the attorney general to start investigations into violations of this.
00:06:08.000So what happens if they just start harassing your company and demanding all of your stuff to see, oh, are you actually controlled by a foreign adversary?
00:06:15.000And that's part of it is it gets into it's controlled by a foreign adversary.
00:06:21.000It's not owned because I don't believe the Chinese government literally owns TikTok.
00:06:25.000It's more that in the sense that every Chinese company is perceived as to some extent dominated by the CCP because it's an authoritarian country.
00:06:34.000And so you can easily see how definitions start getting loose in there.
00:06:38.000Well, they'll say, well, any app that's linked with this country is really owned by that regime.
00:06:43.000And then you get this, you see the chain of events start taking place.
00:06:54.000I mean, can saying that it's CCP or is it factually correct to say that it is owned by the Chinese Communist Party, an owned and operated asset of the CCP?
00:07:07.000Well, so, I mean, the way that, okay, the way that business in China operates is very different from the way that business in the United States works, where in the United States, you have clearly delineated lines between what is a private entity, what is a public entity, what is a political party, what is not.
00:07:28.000In China, the party has sort of control over everything, in a sense.
00:07:35.000Every enterprise is allowed to rise or fall because the party at one level or another, I'm not saying that they're Xi Jinping sitting up there like making decisions on what the algorithm is going to push today.
00:07:49.000But it's sort of like, As long as they're respecting the things they need to respect, as long as they're doing the things they need to do, then they're fine.
00:07:58.000And this, and by the way, ByteDance and Douyin, which is what it's called in China, are not the only, you know, there's a ton of other social medias in China.
00:08:09.000The main piece of it, though, of course, is that each of them do have to fall under the auspices of the CCP.
00:08:15.000Now, to answer your question directly, my big take on this is that the angle has always been they keep saying, well, you don't need to do this because actually they're saying that, oh, the servers are in Texas.
00:08:31.000Well, if that were true, then couldn't they just divest it on their own and set up their own new company?
00:08:36.000So Jeff Yaz, who's this guy that's invested in it, couldn't he just set up like TikTok America and suddenly it comes out and it's founded in Texas, whatever, and do that.
00:08:48.000And I can only believe that number one, the main reason is caused on one hand, but then number two is because they probably do have a very robust data sharing agreement.
00:08:59.000I think it's the door between your data and anything that's going on in the server farms in China, which of course are absolutely fully open to any Ministry of State Security, Second Bureau, PLA, Second Bureau operatives in the Chinese Intel community that they want.
00:09:17.000So the question also is: can it apply to other apps?
00:09:19.000We're streaming live on Rumble right now as the way the bill is written.
00:09:23.000Rumble has Canadian connections, so that's not necessarily an adversary, but we're literally communicating on what application.
00:09:53.000I mean, it's the sort of thing where they could probably sue you and a court could say, well, no, they're not owned by the Russian government.
00:11:07.000I think, well, so I think enemy implies that they really would go out of their way to hurt us, even if we were not really important to them.
00:11:17.000Like it is an express goal of theirs to hurt us as opposed to having the goal of like China being number one, China being the most powerful country, and the US is an obstacle to that.
00:11:28.000Sure, but that's an enemy relationship, right?
00:11:35.000And but further than that, I just see a lot of stuff about like China owning TikTok is bad because China can use the algorithms in TikTok to destroy the United States.
00:12:31.000To the extent TikTok is woke, it is because TikTok's American users and American employees and American political actors want TikTok to be woke.
00:12:42.000Can I say why I disagree with you on that?
00:12:44.000Because the way that TikTok is operating and the reason why Charlie's had the experience that he's had, which is what our organizations had in general, is that TikTok is only beholden essentially to the District of Columbia in the United States.
00:13:00.000So the way that TikTok views how they moderate content is essentially all through just the District of Columbia, which isn't far off from Google, to be honest.
00:13:11.000But at least Google and Facebook and other groups are a little bit beholden to the 50 states.
00:14:02.000That's part of the reason why I believe that the content moderation is much more severe because all they care about is what answer they get out of the District of Columbia as far as operating in the United States.
00:14:13.000So having an American ownership element would help because if we do flex that muscle, which the Republicans have not, conservatives have not so far, then that gives some balance of power.
00:14:24.000And that's part of the reason why I believe Facebook pulled back so significantly over the last two years.
00:14:30.000But, you know, ahead of this next election, we'll see.
00:15:39.000And AI is very good at flagging, let's say, oh, find anything that looks like Winnie the Pooh and delete it because it's making fun of Xi Jinping.
00:15:48.000But it's not very good at deducing that Winnie the Pooh is a meme in the first place.
00:15:54.000You would need someone else to figure that out.
00:15:58.000Does the CCP are they in favor of manipulating the algorithm to try to push trans content or just, let's say, the more left-wing stuff that we see?
00:16:10.000I think that it's probably overstated.
00:16:16.000I don't think Xi Jinping is sitting there or that the Chinese Communist Party have a direct outlet that is focused on manipulating the algorithm.
00:16:25.000What I do think that they're doing is those intelligence agencies and those intelligence services are using it for those purposes, using it for data collection purposes, reading messages that people are writing on there.
00:16:36.000If you were son or daughter or even a high-level, high-profile individual, high-value target, whatever you call it, is using the app, then they're certainly going to be using that.
00:16:48.000But as far as their algorithm, unfortunately, I think that number one, they're definitely not trying to make it positive.
00:16:56.000But I do think that there's something that Blake is pointing out here that I think gets maybe to the heart of why we don't like TikTok.
00:17:04.000And that's because so many of the users in the United States on TikTok are searching for those things because those things are becoming so popular.
00:17:12.000And because more people are searching for them, then it's becoming, you know, this sort of like negative feedback loop, a toxic feedback loop, because this is what they know, quote unquote, does well on TikTok.
00:17:25.000But it's not necessarily because the CCP wants it to, even though, of course, it is to the CCP's interest.
00:17:31.000I think unfortunately, it's the United States and the culture, the youth culture, and the just really cultural degeneracy in this country that has taken so much hold.
00:17:41.000Final thoughts, and let's get to one of our partners here.
00:17:43.000It reminds me a lot of a lot of conservatives know this video.
00:17:50.000Yeah, how you would undermine America.
00:17:52.000And a lot of people see this and think, oh, that means all the things I don't like are a KGB plot.
00:17:57.000And the answer really is if the KGB was involved in that, they just saw something that was already happening and they amplified it and probably not that effectively.
00:18:05.000The real truth is, is we're looking at the mirror and not liking what we see.
00:18:10.000And we're deciding like, oh, the Chinese did this.
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00:21:14.000The world found out while that man was in Costa Rica ready to sit with the medicine, as he calls it.
00:21:22.000And McAfee said he spoke with a source about the situation, implying the source was Rodgers himself, and said he is not 100% sure that the quarterback for the New York Jets necessarily knew the New York Times was going to be reporting that he was potentially going to be vice president.
00:21:39.000You guys realize, like, and again, I like Aaron Rodgers.
00:22:07.000But when you run for president and vice president, those things aren't let go.
00:22:12.000It will make Trump's, the stuff that they, the skeletons they pulled out on Trump look like nothing.
00:22:17.000Well, with the key difference that I think we can agree, at the least, RFK is not going to be elected president.
00:22:22.000He's not he could, he could if he's polling high.
00:22:27.000I just, my, the reason I don't think it would boost his candidacy is I think it would create the sense that this is all a carnival act.
00:22:35.000It's a joke that a lot of people like Aaron Rodgers.
00:22:39.000A lot of people agree with Aaron Rodgers.
00:22:40.000They like that he is willing to say whatever comes to mind on McAfee's show, that he'll say whatever about the vaccine or anything like that.
00:22:48.000But there's a big leap from that to I literally like the idea of Aaron Rodgers as second in command of the United States of America.
00:23:01.000Okay, then you have a president, a presidential candidate who's running as a gimmick.
00:23:06.000And I think you saw that it was, I think you even saw that with Ross Perot, actually, that it went a bit downhill as a result of that.
00:23:14.000Like it was just perceived that he was like a little too weird and out there, even though on policy, he had a lot of stuff to like, a lot of stuff we would agree with today.
00:23:22.000But people do, most voters take the idea of becoming president pretty seriously.
00:23:28.000And I think it would just make this all a huge joke if he was.
00:23:47.000They might release him because he would hijack the prime time of the prime time.
00:23:52.000He would wear just like a Rogers Kennedy socks or whatever.
00:23:56.000Okay, but before I get to that, we got to play Cut 80, then I want Jack's reaction.
00:24:01.000Well, there's ideas that some of the noises from the Dolphins when they're love making, the frequency of that is actually healing to the body.
00:25:38.000And I think when people first get involved in something like this, they realize how nasty it is and they just don't want to get into it.
00:25:44.000But then, you know, what I thought was really interesting, though, if you actually read through the report, there were two other names that they mentioned that, again, according to sources, that RFK had reached out to, one of which was Rand Paul.
00:25:58.000And apparently one of Rand's strategists is also working as a consultant for RFK's campaign.
00:26:04.000Obviously, there's a lot of connective tissue and where those guys stand on a number of issues.
00:26:08.000And apparently they had had some conversations.
00:26:11.000Rand Paul, though, came out unequivocally and said, I don't want to get involved with the campaign.
00:26:15.000And another person they had been apparently was, and again, this, you know, if we were, if we trust, you know, the NBC reporting here, but Tulsi Gabbard was apparently being vetted at one point by RFK, but she has now pulled out of that.
00:26:32.000And as we all know, has been getting a little bit closer to the Trump camp, holding a meeting with President Trump at some point over the past year.
00:26:42.000She was at Mar-a-Lago, I think, like last night or the night before for a not a Trump fundraiser, but a separate fundraiser.
00:26:48.000But, you know, it's very interesting kind of seeing some of these names in the mix in this VP race that could go for Kennedy and then potentially use that as a way to kind of springboard over to Trump to hear, oh, you know, it's kind of like when you're trying to play one employer after another, get a higher salary.
00:27:06.000It's like, oh, I might go to Kennedy, but I could come over here.
00:27:09.000Here's the problem, Charlie, that Kennedy has.
00:27:12.000And it's a problem for all of us, actually, to be to be perfectly square, is that all the polling is showing that Kennedy's dividing the Biden independent support and not really pulling enough from the Trump independent support.
00:27:27.000So Trump's number on independence is like 40% on most of the polling that we're seeing, where he's pulling 40 in a two-way race.
00:27:38.000Trump may win that, but it's clearly he's pulling more from the Biden independent source.
00:27:45.000So the way that if I'm just like a just a very novice political onlooker here with Kennedy, it's like, well, I need to pull more independents first from Trump in order to have any kind of shot at winning.
00:28:00.000And then I need to obviously pull more Republicans.
00:28:02.000If I'm not pulling more independents, conservative independents, I'm definitely not going to pull more conservatives in general.
00:28:08.000It sounds like a gimmick, but if it happens, I think that I disagree.
00:28:32.000To that point, I'm saying is like he's looking at it and going, see, the prism of polling of, oh my gosh, I'm not winning enough conservatives.
00:28:39.000Think about, so who else would be like a top-level free thinker?
00:28:54.000The problem with the conservative movement is now is like for him, it doesn't buy him anything to play with like the establishment arm because the establishment arm is effectively and the Republican side is effectively supporting Biden.
00:29:16.000And it's interesting just because he's a he kind of is appealing to moderates, but then his kind of big distinct issue is obviously the vaccine stuff.
00:29:28.000And so you could think, oh, should he try to get a mainstream politician?
00:29:32.000Like, what if he grabbed Manchin or something and played to the middle?
00:29:35.000But all that would then go against everything he's done in terms of his advocacy on more eccentric issues.
00:29:42.000So yeah, maybe it's going to end up being Aaron Rodgers.
00:29:45.000Apparently, according to the Times, Kennedy Rogers got registered on GoDaddy last week.
00:29:59.000I mean, I think Kennedy's best move, if you were wanting to split conservatives, and I really, I hate saying this in public because I just don't want to give him ideas.
00:30:08.000I don't want to give people, I don't like putting things into the ether, but I think the smartest move is to pick up like a libertarian-esque, like someone legitimate, though, that was like a former governor.
00:30:20.000Like in this situation, like Gary Johnson.
00:30:23.000If this was years ago, right, Gary Johnson hadn't already run and destroyed his political career.
00:30:40.000But just the premise of it, like, is like, that's what's probably most frightening to splitting the vote because then that basically legitimizes in a significant way.
00:30:48.000It turns the independent run that is lean Democrat, tilt Democrat, to like a tilt maybe.
00:32:05.000So the news story here is there is a whistleblower against Boeing who was in a lawsuit with them, had just recently given testimony in a deposition for his case against them.
00:32:19.000He was scheduled to give more last Saturday, and then he was found dead in the parking lot of a holiday inn with a bullet wound in the head, which had proven fatal.
00:32:31.000And in fact, already the CEO of Boeing has come out and delivered a public statement about this.
00:34:46.000And he's been doing this for more than half a decade.
00:34:48.000He got, I believe, got pushed out in 2017.
00:34:50.000He's been suing them at least since 2019 because that's when he was interviewed by the BBC over this.
00:34:56.000He is in a long-running legal battle with Boeing on a personal scale.
00:35:03.000So this is not some trillion-dollar lawsuit where if the, you know, his next day's testimony might decide whether they're convicted or not.
00:35:09.000It's just his personal lawsuit with them.
00:35:12.000So in that context, it makes a lot more sense to me that this is a guy who perceives his life as getting ruined by Boeing, and he's been doing this for years on end.
00:35:23.000Unfortunately, maybe this eventually he's already depressive.
00:35:26.000Maybe he had substance abuse problems.
00:36:04.000How about even though he was a little bit more than a hundred?
00:36:05.000It was a popular meme that he would kill himself before.
00:36:07.000It was a popular meme that he would kill himself.
00:36:09.000Remember, it was like a 30-day arrest.
00:36:13.000There was a 30-60-day lag between arrest and Epstein gradually built up in fame, but he was 100% a big deal before his suicide, which is why his suicide was such a big deal in the first place.
00:36:27.000Because people are always claiming everyone who died was actually murdered by the deep state.
00:36:32.000So, Jack, do you, I think, Jack, you and I, when we see stories like this, what was strange for me, though, what was strange for me, though, was that, you know, I was reading the news, and apparently, over in Russia, there was a whistleblower of the Russian, I think, Aeroflot is their big, you know, communist airliner or whatever.
00:36:53.000And they had a whistleblower, and their whistleblower was found shot in the head as well by Vladimir Putin, who is standing there with a shoot smoking gun.
00:37:05.000And so, so, clearly, clearly, there's just an epidemic of suicides going on.
00:37:09.000The other one I thought of was: what if it wasn't suicide?
00:37:13.000What if he had actually just ridden a Boeing plane recently and fell out?
00:37:20.000I do wonder about that because do you think it's confirmation bias?
00:37:23.000I wonder about that, just in the sense we know we know that we know there are feeding frenzy type stories where something becomes a big deal.
00:37:41.000But a lot of these stories we've had in this past week are stories like flight out of San Francisco has a minor mechanical issue, turns around and lands again.
00:38:18.000Yeah, there are real issues, real safety concerns.
00:38:21.000Didn't they say they used like hand sanitizer or something to like?
00:38:25.000Yes, they audited after that uh decompression incident.
00:38:28.000They did a quick audit and they found that out of I think 96 processes or so, I think 31 of them they failed.
00:38:35.000And two, two of the most simple things they saw is they were using dish soap as an emergency lubricant and they were using uh like a credit card, a plastic credit card as a as a tool in some capacity.
00:38:46.000So, this is something in their factories.
00:38:48.000And the big picture here that I think is interesting is everyone's debating what's causing the decline of Boeing, and it's not the easiest thing to answer.
00:38:58.000Now, an obvious thing to blame is DEI.
00:39:01.000I don't think I think you can very reasonably, they're a very loud pro-DEI company.
00:39:07.000They made big DEI commitments in 2020.
00:39:10.000That's not surprising because Boeing is such a big defense and government contractor, and all of those companies just fall all over themselves to adopt whatever the Washington ideology is these days.
00:39:25.000They produce these products that take a decade or more to design and prototype and build.
00:39:31.000And then they have a service life of decades on end.
00:39:35.000So stuff, Boeing is very obviously going bad now.
00:39:40.000We might be looking at things that started to go wrong 20 years ago that are really only manifesting now.
00:39:46.000And it's interesting to look into this because one of the stories, this is just sort of a more boring take, but a take I've seen in a lot of places is in the mid-90s, Boeing bought McDonnell Douglas, which was another major jet manufacturer.
00:40:01.000And what's funny is Boeing bought the company, but the sort of take from insiders is it's really more like McDonnell Douglas bought Boeing because they absorbed all of these executives from them.
00:40:13.000And these guys were better at being executives, basically.
00:40:18.000So for example, the former head of McDonnell Douglas becomes Boeing's CEO in the early 2000s.
00:40:24.000And what McDonnell Douglas was, is they were not as much an engineering company.
00:40:28.000Boeing was all West Coast, Silicon Valley, engineering.
00:40:32.000It was an engineer-led company, very focused on the product.
00:40:35.000McDonnell Douglas was a businessman-led company, very focused on the bottom line.
00:40:39.000So they spun off all of Boeing's operations.
00:40:42.000So now their planes aren't built by Boeing and Boeing factories.
00:40:46.000Instead, Boeing is just assembling parts made by 500 different contractors and subcontractors.
00:40:51.000And there's a lot of reason to believe this is what ruined Boeing is they spun off everything that they controlled themselves and they ruined their culture of perfectionism.
00:41:00.000And now we have this company that slaps things together and, you know, saying, you know, 99% certainty is pretty good.
00:41:08.000And then they start having all these problems.
00:41:17.000And by the way, we really should be asking questions as to Nikki Haley's role or whatever role she played in any of this, the move from the Seattle area to South Carolina.
00:41:28.000Obviously, Nikki Haley played a huge part.
00:41:30.000And that's what won her the board seat on Boeing.
00:41:34.000And so why is it that we have this politician who was running for president and yet there was no question about it whatsoever?
00:41:42.000I don't even really remember Trump bringing it up that much.
00:41:44.000And frankly, I think it's something that when we do have politicians that are this clearly bought off by one of these failing companies like this, we should be asking those questions.
00:41:53.000And especially with Boeing, in many ways, similar to Aeroflot and similar to what we were saying about TikTok, Boeing is by and large a state-owned or at least state-related enterprise in the United States.
00:42:04.000And it's kind of silly that we don't talk about it like that.
00:42:52.000Polk at one point was actually calling for full on, right?
00:42:56.000Full on Baja, California, the entire northern half of Mexico, the island of Cuba, the Yucatan Peninsula, though notably, and perhaps perhaps presciently, not Haiti.
00:43:11.000So the question is not necessarily so much.
00:43:14.000And there's a long conversation that we had offline, you know, kind of about like what would the politics of the region have been had this actually gone forward.
00:43:22.000But there is a sense, I think, as well of why is it that we as Americans just limit ourselves to thinking that, oh, well, you know, this is where the border is and this is where this treaty was and that's the end of it.
00:43:35.000And we sort of lost that spirit, that pioneering spirit of manifest destiny.
00:43:39.000I mean, why did manifest destiny have to stop?
00:44:04.000You know, they pillaged, raped, killed.
00:44:08.000I mean, the episode, it's so funny because you see the Marxists today in California, Arizona talk about how, like, oh, indigenous people, and they, and they loop in, you know.
00:44:24.000It's like, actually, the historic Hispanic peoples of Mexico raped and pillaged and killed so many Native Americans.
00:44:34.000And actually, the only saving grace was that a lot of in Arizona and Arizona history, you know, white pioneers came to Arizona and actually defended some of the Native American tribes from other tribes and from the Mexican armies and pushed them back.
00:44:47.000And then that led to the Mexican-American War and yada yada yada.
00:44:50.000But that fast forwards to this whole concept is like, should we have acquired Baja California?
00:44:56.000Should we have more of Sonora and Chihuahua?
00:45:18.000I don't even know if you need to think of it in terms of liberal conservative today.
00:45:23.000This is a controversial way of framing it, but one of the simplest ways of putting it is, would it have been better for the inhabitants of Chihuahua, Sonora, Sinaloa?
00:45:33.000Those are all of those states that you can see on the screen are the northern parts.
00:45:38.000Those are all the northern states of Mexico.
00:45:40.000At the time when this war was being fought, those were almost, I don't want to say totally empty, but they were very lightly populated.
00:45:47.000I checked a census for Mexico around 1900, and you're looking at about maybe a million people across all those territories.
00:45:56.000So 50 years before that, it's probably under half a million.
00:45:59.000And so if those areas had been part of the United States, then they would have had the benefit of United States government, United States stability, United States settlement patterns.
00:46:28.000To the extent Mexico is viable at all, it's mostly just because it's adjacent to this huge economic power of the United States to somewhat keep it viable as a country and not totally disintegrating into like warlords, like it's some medieval state.
00:46:46.000And so it's you think in terms of would it have just been better if the United States, the stronger country, had been running those areas?
00:46:54.000And it's awkward because you don't like to just say, oh, we should just kick in the door and take stuff over.
00:46:58.000But that is basically what we did for California, Texas, Colorado, New Mexico.
00:47:03.000And would you rather live in California, New Mexico, Arizona, Texas?
00:47:08.000Or would you rather live in Tijuana and Ciudad Juarez in those places?
00:47:14.000And well, Ciudad Juarez has its ups and downs, but most years, it's one of the deadliest cities on planet Earth.
00:47:41.000He was supposed to be doing this escort of a new aircraft carrier out of San Diego with like this little picket ship, which had actual shells and artillery on it and all this other stuff.
00:47:54.000And he accidentally went, his navigation was not so great.
00:47:58.000And so he actually went south of the border there in like 19, like during World War II, goes south of the maritime border and ends up on the Mexican side.
00:48:09.000And like the Mexican Navy, this is like south of Coronado Island and all that.
00:48:13.000The Mexican Navy actually sailed up and be like, excuse me, what is going on here?
00:48:18.000And you know, it's kind of amazing in the whole story of L. Ron Hubbard.
00:49:05.000If he hadn't invaded Mexico, if it had been part of Baja California, then he wouldn't have accidentally invaded Mexico, which means he wouldn't, his Navy service may have been better, which means we may not have gotten Scientology if James Polker got in his way.