The Charlie Kirk Show - March 09, 2024


THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 36 — Kyrsten Sinema Running? Are ZYN Voters a Thing? Trump-Elon Secret Meeting?


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On this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show, Jack and Tyler are joined by Charlie's good friend Blake Neff to discuss Kirsten Caudwell running as an independent in the upcoming primary election. What does it take to become an independent candidate?

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00:01:37.000 Charlie Kirk is on his way, but with me now are currently our Blake Neff.
00:01:42.000 What's up, Blake?
00:01:43.000 Howdy, Jack and Tyler Boyer, Tyler, who has, I wouldn't necessarily say shaved, but he at least shaved his mustache.
00:01:50.000 So there's that.
00:01:51.000 Yeah, I haven't had a mustache for a while, but I got a haircut yesterday.
00:01:54.000 So, you know, before we even do the pleasantries, that's a hair.
00:01:58.000 You paid for that?
00:01:59.000 Yeah, I mean, it's that, that's the, that's the cheap cut.
00:02:03.000 You know, I wasn't like, I've got children to feed.
00:02:08.000 That wasn't one of your, that wasn't one of your kids doing that.
00:02:10.000 Like in the okay.
00:02:12.000 Yeah, no, that's cool.
00:02:13.000 I'll just throw out real quick because it is breaking news.
00:02:17.000 President Trump held a meeting at Mar-a-Lago on Sunday down there in Palm Beach with Elon Musk.
00:02:24.000 We're going to have more exclusive details on that very soon.
00:02:29.000 We're going to wait for Charlie to get here.
00:02:30.000 So Robinson once said that transgender women should be arrested for using the bathroom corresponding to their gender identity and suggesting that they should go outside instead. 1.00
00:02:43.000 Amazing. 0.99
00:02:44.000 Hi, everybody.
00:02:45.000 Welcome, Charlie.
00:02:46.000 And Charlie's here.
00:02:47.000 Welcome to the program.
00:02:48.000 Charlie was going to be in the election tonight because of his gender identity.
00:02:52.000 So interestingly enough, I was listening to MSNBC on the way in.
00:02:52.000 Yeah.
00:02:55.000 I got stuck in terrible Phoenix traffic, and all they were talking about is the North Carolina governor's race.
00:03:00.000 That was their whole lead.
00:03:01.000 Robinson's going to have a tough race.
00:03:02.000 He's going to have a tough race.
00:03:03.000 They haven't elected a Republican governor in quite some time.
00:03:05.000 You were just going in that.
00:03:06.000 No, that's what I'm coming into.
00:03:08.000 And they had Roy Cooper on MSNBC.
00:03:10.000 They're going all in on that race.
00:03:12.000 And by the way, if I was Mark Robinson, I would sue MSNBC.
00:03:17.000 They kept on saying Mark Robinson's a Holocaust denier.
00:03:19.000 Yeah.
00:03:20.000 I'm not kidding.
00:03:20.000 They said Holocaust.
00:03:22.000 No, I prompt, go Lagrabian.
00:03:25.000 I watch MSNBC, so you don't have to. 0.97
00:03:27.000 Every day I listen to those maniacs.
00:03:29.000 And they said, Holocaust denier Mark Robinson. 0.60
00:03:33.000 I kid you not.
00:03:34.000 Racism.
00:03:35.000 Because I was just reading the ABC hit piece against him, and that's not here.
00:03:39.000 They've got a bunch of stuff, but that's not on this particular scattershot.
00:03:45.000 Yeah, no, that was his intro on MSNBC tonight.
00:03:48.000 So, of course.
00:03:49.000 By the way, we haven't even started talking about Kirsten Cinema not running in Arizona.
00:03:53.000 Have we talked about that yet?
00:03:54.000 We haven't even dove into Tyler.
00:03:56.000 I don't know.
00:03:56.000 Have we talked about that?
00:03:58.000 Which one?
00:03:58.000 About what?
00:03:59.000 Kirsten Cinema.
00:03:59.000 Oh, we haven't talked about it.
00:04:00.000 Okay.
00:04:00.000 Okay.
00:04:01.000 Not on here.
00:04:02.000 No, not yet.
00:04:03.000 Okay.
00:04:03.000 So we will get into that.
00:04:05.000 We're going to find out a lot about tonight, but in Minnesota, Blake, the uncommitted movement, can you explain our audience about this?
00:04:11.000 Minnesota is the next one.
00:04:12.000 A lot of Arabs, a lot of Muslims, a lot of Muslim community there.
00:04:16.000 What is this uncommitted movement?
00:04:18.000 All right.
00:04:18.000 So obviously, this all stems from the war in Gaza.
00:04:22.000 Biden has stepped up pretty strongly in support of Israel and sending them money, sending them some weapons, sending them support. 0.55
00:04:31.000 And that's really alienated the more left-wing part of the Democratic Party, the younger factions of the Democratic Party, and of course, this not large, but substantive part of the Democratic Party that is Muslim now. 0.78
00:04:46.000 And that's especially the case in, as you say, Michigan, Minnesota, a few other states. 0.69
00:04:50.000 None of them have tons, but it's a few percent.
00:04:52.000 It's enough that they can be heard.
00:04:54.000 And so it started in Michigan.
00:04:56.000 They had an effort to vote for none of the above basically in Michigan.
00:05:03.000 I can't remember the exact wording they use, but basically don't vote for Biden, even though no one else is on the ballot.
00:05:08.000 And they're doing the same thing now in Minnesota.
00:05:11.000 And the goal is to send a message: hey, there are a lot of people on the left who oppose what the agenda is in terms of Gaza.
00:05:20.000 Biden should be demanding a ceasefire.
00:05:21.000 He should be putting more pressure on Israel to end the conflict.
00:05:26.000 And they got about 14%, I believe, 13 or 14% in Michigan.
00:05:32.000 I think if they could get a similar number in Minnesota, that would definitely get them sweating.
00:05:36.000 The question, of course, is: will these people refuse to vote in the general election?
00:05:41.000 Would any of them actually vote for Trump?
00:05:43.000 I find that pretty unlikely, or would they just line up and it could be a taper-off thing, right?
00:05:48.000 I mean, it could have a tapering effect.
00:05:50.000 And it also just, when you're having this sort of problem, even it creates a bad vibe around the entire campaign.
00:05:55.000 Oh, everyone's attacking Biden.
00:05:57.000 Everyone's mad at him.
00:05:58.000 It creates this aura of failure around it.
00:06:02.000 And that can be really devastating when you're the incumbent president and trying to rally people and get another term.
00:06:07.000 And I think these things are very hard to measure, perhaps impossible, but they definitely affect the overall state of the election.
00:06:15.000 That's going to affect, are we going to be able, are we going to have all the volunteers we need?
00:06:18.000 Are people going to put in that effort if they are tired on election day?
00:06:23.000 Do I really want to go in and vote?
00:06:25.000 And if the vibe of Ron Biden is just bad and everyone's mad about this or that, he's not on a good track.
00:06:32.000 So Tyler, are we seeing currently more base enthusiasm for Donald Trump or for Joe Biden?
00:06:41.000 That sounds like a simple question to answer, but given their ability to mobilize on the abortion issue, the ability to micro-target, which has an, who has the base advantage right now?
00:06:55.000 Yeah, I mean, I think it's obvious right now.
00:07:01.000 The Democrats right now are micro-targeting like crazy to their base.
00:07:07.000 And they've been doing this now since 2008, since 2007, right?
00:07:12.000 So, you know, when people, we talk, we have this conversation pretty frequently with people about the abortion issue.
00:07:19.000 Why is abortion a bad issue for us?
00:07:22.000 It's not because of the actual fight over.
00:07:25.000 We have, you know, arguably, I mean, look at polls, polling in a lot of states.
00:07:29.000 We have more pro-life people than there are pro-choice people.
00:07:32.000 There's nothing wrong with standing on the pro-life issue.
00:07:36.000 The reason why Democrats attack the pro-choice issue is because it's the number one issue with low-propensity voters as a single-issue vote, right?
00:07:46.000 So people will look at that.
00:07:48.000 So, when you talk about micro-targeting, when you're trying to micro-target into a community and get low-propensity or less likely voters to vote, if you knock on the door and you have nothing else to talk about, what's the go-to for them?
00:07:59.000 Abortion.
00:08:00.000 So, if you talk about abortion more often, it's going to be the easier go-to.
00:08:04.000 Our side has walked away for some reason from the Second Amendment.
00:08:08.000 Our side has walked away from other micro-targeting issues.
00:08:11.000 Our issues, right?
00:08:13.000 We have to look at the abortion issue and say, okay, what are going to be the single-issue voter issues for us and walk back towards those as the fallback specifically with low-propensity voters?
00:08:25.000 And we have to look at the community of less likely or low-propensity voters and say, what do they care most about at a 90% shtick?
00:08:31.000 Well, again, we talk about moms and dads.
00:08:34.000 What do they care about?
00:08:35.000 Parents' rights. 0.99
00:08:36.000 Prance rights. 1.00
00:08:37.000 Don't trans my kids. 1.00
00:08:38.000 Property tax. 1.00
00:08:38.000 This is why this is so successful. 1.00
00:08:41.000 When you look at the Virginia thing, it really had nothing to do with Glenn Young, in my opinion.
00:08:44.000 It had everything to do with that.
00:08:44.000 No, that's true.
00:08:46.000 That was our abortion issue. 0.98
00:08:48.000 So you think that we need to do a better job of creating low-propensity pressure cooker issues that can win over low prop.
00:08:53.000 And we unintentionally stumbled into it in Virginia. 0.64
00:08:57.000 The trans issue became a triumphant over the abortion issue. 0.65
00:09:01.000 100%. 0.95
00:09:02.000 But that was before the repeal of Roe versus Wade.
00:09:04.000 So is that rule still apply now post-Roe?
00:09:07.000 It applies for everything, every election moving forward, especially when you're targeting nothing but low-propensity voters, right?
00:09:14.000 Which the left is doing.
00:09:15.000 The left has said Charlie is a high-propensity independent voter.
00:09:20.000 I'm not going to talk to him ever because the likelihood of me changing his mind is low because he's probably already made up his mind six months ago.
00:09:27.000 Yes.
00:09:28.000 And the credit goes to Libs at TikTok, to Dr. Miriam Grossman, to Matt Walsh, you know, a little bit to our program.
00:09:35.000 When we talk about the emotionality, so abortion is a toughie for us because it involves something that you have or you think you have being taken by an external force.
00:09:46.000 Guns are similar.
00:09:46.000 Yes.
00:09:47.000 Yes.
00:09:48.000 I have a firearm.
00:09:49.000 I don't want someone taking it away from me.
00:09:50.000 Now, again, abortion is the quote-unquote ability to massacre a child, but that's how they look at it.
00:09:56.000 Medicare, Medicaid, but hold on. 0.52
00:09:58.000 Let me throw a goofy one at you, Tyler.
00:10:00.000 Zen.
00:10:01.000 Yeah.
00:10:02.000 So who does?
00:10:03.000 Again, I don't know what the heck this is.
00:10:05.000 Can I tell you something?
00:10:06.000 Fox has an article about how Zen problem.
00:10:09.000 They reached out to us.
00:10:10.000 Somebody reached out.
00:10:11.000 They said, hey, could we talk to some Zen swing voters?
00:10:13.000 So, what the heck are you talking about?
00:10:16.000 Can I tell you one of the biggest missteps that Donald Trump made ahead of the 2020 election?
00:10:21.000 He didn't chew?
00:10:22.000 No, there was this huge issue that was happening that's very similar on the Zen front, which was that, remember, there was the vapes.
00:10:30.000 There was a brand of vapes.
00:10:32.000 Yeah, did he ban it?
00:10:33.000 He banned the flavors of the vapes.
00:10:37.000 They found workarounds, obviously, that the entire lobby found.
00:10:40.000 But didn't that hurt the black vote in particular?
00:10:42.000 It hurt the youth vote for sure.
00:10:44.000 There was an article about how there was like, you know, people are rebelling against.
00:10:44.000 That's not a stereotype.
00:10:49.000 Well, they tried to, a lot of places are banning menthol-flavored cigarettes.
00:10:54.000 Okay, so let's get to the Zen.
00:10:55.000 What is Zen?
00:10:56.000 Pretend I don't know.
00:10:57.000 Honestly, someone else is going to have to answer.
00:10:59.000 Tyler, it's some sort of T-related thing.
00:11:01.000 What is Zen, Tyler?
00:11:02.000 They're nicotine pouches that you just stick in your lip.
00:11:04.000 We don't have tobacco.
00:11:05.000 But it's basically vape is to smoking.
00:11:08.000 Zen is to chewing.
00:11:09.000 So it's synthetic nicotine pouches.
00:11:10.000 So the Democrats who are all about do whatever you want with your body.
00:11:13.000 You can trans your kids, massacre them, put them on Lupron, hormonal practices. 0.55
00:11:18.000 Now they're basically saying you can do all the weed you want, but we're going to come after your Zen. 0.91
00:11:23.000 Who is the demographic of who uses Zen?
00:11:25.000 I think of like 24-year-old people that listen to Joe Rogan white baseball players.
00:11:31.000 Young people, mostly men, right?
00:11:35.000 Trending young men.
00:11:36.000 So how is this a pull?
00:11:37.000 This is a winner for us, right?
00:11:39.000 If you look at famously, there's one famous, I guess you could call him, I don't know, right-wing or at least right-coated influencer type host who is famous for promoting Zen, not promoting, but using Zen.
00:11:52.000 Tucker is kind of like a whole gimmick on his show almost.
00:11:52.000 That's Tucker.
00:11:58.000 Yeah, he says you get like spiritual experiences from having Zen, right?
00:12:02.000 Tucker spent when I was around him at least, I think he spent more on nicotine than I spent on rent.
00:12:09.000 He would do those lozenges.
00:12:10.000 He's like, Tobacco is bad.
00:12:10.000 He was very strong.
00:12:11.000 It gives you cancer, but nicotine has no side effects as far as I know, other than positive.
00:12:16.000 Well, let's go back.
00:12:17.000 Let's go back.
00:12:18.000 Showing tobacco does stimulate neurological benefits.
00:12:21.000 I mean, Orwell's.
00:12:22.000 Yeah, but it also makes your jaw off all the time.
00:12:24.000 Because of the nicotine.
00:12:25.000 Because of the tobacco, because of the tobacco.
00:12:26.000 Nicotine does.
00:12:29.000 Studies have been showing it's a stimulant that causes you to think.
00:12:32.000 I know people who have intentionally addicted themselves to nicotine just because they think it's.
00:12:36.000 Or Orwell smoked a pipe like literally all day and he died in age 48.
00:12:39.000 I know people these days who they just have, you know, those e-cigarettes or whatever.
00:12:43.000 And there's fiends. 1.00
00:12:43.000 So he's the Mayans. 1.00
00:12:45.000 But the Mayans had like a tobacco energy drink kind of thing that I think we should possibly try here on the, well, it's not Thought Grim, but here on the Superstream audience, we should, we should try to recreate that and remarket it.
00:12:55.000 Yeah, the Mayans also did other things we're not going to do.
00:12:58.000 So, but let me understand, Tyler.
00:12:59.000 So let's say Zen.
00:13:00.000 I know it sounds like a mixed bag, Charlie.
00:13:02.000 A mixed bag.
00:13:03.000 Yeah, the child sacrifice.
00:13:04.000 Well, I guess our society does that too.
00:13:06.000 So, but, but Tyler, yes, we do.
00:13:08.000 Zen.
00:13:09.000 So Chuck Hushumer comes out, says, I want to take Zen away.
00:13:09.000 Okay.
00:13:13.000 How can we use Zen as a micro-target issue?
00:13:16.000 Walk us through it.
00:13:17.000 You're the Svengali of the Republican movement.
00:13:19.000 No, no.
00:13:20.000 So this is, this is a, I mean, again, I'll go back to the jewel situation.
00:13:24.000 So when jewels and vapes were banned, and meanwhile, you know, they're accessible all over the world and across the border and everything else in massive quantity.
00:13:35.000 You know, again, when you take something away from a voter and the messaging, it becomes very personal, especially if it's a daily part of your life.
00:13:43.000 Medicare, social security, guns, abortion.
00:13:47.000 It would be like taking away, I mean, it would be like taking away your favorite fast food.
00:13:51.000 You know, you're doing something like shutting down.
00:13:53.000 Like people are not going to respond happily to that.
00:13:56.000 Right.
00:13:57.000 And then the more people talk about it, and it becomes, it's easy to turn that into a dialogue too, right?
00:14:02.000 And so we probably don't do this enough, quite frankly.
00:14:06.000 I mean, think about how the Democrats are banning so many different things in cities.
00:14:11.000 Gas stoves, gas stoves, traditional vehicles.
00:14:14.000 We're never talking about this.
00:14:15.000 I mean, we talk about it somewhat within the political circles, but it's not like massive conversations.
00:14:21.000 We should be talking about that all the time.
00:14:23.000 Gas vehicles, gas stoves, banning food, certain foods that were considered too fat for people and things like that.
00:14:32.000 This is the same thing when you look at jewels and vapes and Zen is that people should have rights in the states.
00:14:42.000 And people, when you start taking things away, we need to be placing that squarely on the shoulders of the Democrats.
00:14:47.000 And I just, the Democrats, I think, again, Zen is a little bit silly, but it isn't.
00:14:47.000 Yeah.
00:14:50.000 It's a strategic error because they currently have been benefiting from the, they're trying to take stuff away from you type of issue.
00:14:56.000 Well, right.
00:14:57.000 And think about this too.
00:14:58.000 And again, I don't want to go totally rural.
00:15:01.000 And with men, you know, one of the things that we hear about all the time is like, we have to win the female vote back.
00:15:05.000 We have to win the female vote back. 0.99
00:15:07.000 Actually, I actually, you know, of course, we have to, we want to win the female vote, whatever. 0.69
00:15:12.000 But I think we should lean and double and triple down into the male vote. 0.91
00:15:18.000 I think we could, I think we can go do 10 points better with the male vote. 0.67
00:15:21.000 We should triple down with the male vote and say, guess what's trying to happen? 0.79
00:15:24.000 Guess what's happening to you in your community right now?
00:15:27.000 They're trying to take away your gas-powered vehicle.
00:15:31.000 I just, I don't know if anyone that has a testosterone rate over 500 or 600 could vote Democrat.
00:15:37.000 I just don't know who these people are.
00:15:37.000 I just don't.
00:15:39.000 I mean, if you have any sort of self-determination or awareness or grit or resolve or, I don't know, disagreeable attitude, who likes what's going on here?
00:15:48.000 It's a very serious thing.
00:15:49.000 Like, then this is why the dude numbers are skyrocketing because people are going, wait, And this is the other, the counter argument actually that's like really deep.
00:15:58.000 That's almost just like built into the DNA of every human being that is an American on the abortion issue.
00:16:06.000 Every time that they're talking about giving females more control over making determinations with the future of, you know, again, families and planning, that actually is attacking males in a specific way too.
00:16:21.000 We've talked about that at length and so on.
00:16:24.000 So that's actually, we haven't gotten deeply enough into taking away father's rights.
00:16:29.000 We haven't talked about getting into the male rights within America. 0.97
00:16:35.000 Or take away your red meat. 1.00
00:16:36.000 Right.
00:16:37.000 Blake, I mean, you grew up in the heartland.
00:16:39.000 There is a crusade on the on red meat.
00:16:41.000 Again, they're not necessarily talking about restricting it policy-wise yet, but totally.
00:16:45.000 I mean, they're talking about how it's a pollutant.
00:16:47.000 It's bad for your heart health.
00:16:48.000 By the way, there's no evidence of that at all.
00:16:49.000 No, that red meat is bad for your heart.
00:16:51.000 Like none. 1.00
00:16:51.000 It's all made up. 1.00
00:16:52.000 But Blake.
00:16:56.000 I don't know if that's driving people's votes just we should talk about now.
00:17:01.000 But the point is that the Democrats at the core are the they are the party of the taking.
00:17:06.000 And they try to frame us as they're the party of taking just meat.
00:17:13.000 Yeah. 0.83
00:17:13.000 And synthetic. 0.83
00:17:15.000 It's, I think one of the most strongest things here is just, oh man, I sound like one of those, those weirdy arts guys, but like the vibe shift of the parties and the Zen thing, I don't know how many people really do it, but the attacks on it and certain other things the left is obsessed with pushing is the left has become this Dolores Umbridge party.
00:17:15.000 Yeah.
00:17:38.000 They've become the party of that Colorado.
00:17:40.000 Let's tell people what that means.
00:17:41.000 Dolores Umbridge is a Harry Potter character. 1.00
00:17:43.000 I shouldn't know who that is, but I do.
00:17:44.000 I do.
00:17:45.000 Blake, I just had an entire conversation about this yesterday.
00:17:47.000 You're 100% right.
00:17:49.000 Isn't she the one of the villain of the fifth book? 0.74
00:17:53.000 She's the villain of the fifth book and is total school marm, lecturer, government bureaucrat, par excellence. 1.00
00:18:01.000 And very much like the that Colorado Secretary of State we saw the other day with those horrifying doll's eyes gazing into your soul, telling you that you need to fill out your paperwork and not be the insurrectionist and not be on the ballot.
00:18:17.000 And this is the Democrats have become this type of person.
00:18:21.000 And the truth is, is for a hundred years, really, the right was considered that type of person.
00:18:27.000 You could call it the church lady stereotype, the sort of person who's prying into your business, making sure you're not doing a bad thing, not thinking the wrong thoughts.
00:18:38.000 And this was a stereotype of someone who was conservative, fairly or not.
00:18:42.000 We have 45 seconds before we welcome Rev. So yes.
00:18:44.000 Well, before we get into that, this is how this is going to be at the doorstep of females. 1.00
00:18:48.000 So I actually heard about this this week, was talking about minstrel cups versus tampons. 0.92
00:18:54.000 The environmentalists, this is very real for women. 1.00
00:18:59.000 They're going to have disposable diapers taken away. 1.00
00:19:02.000 I mean, that's the next step down the road.
00:19:06.000 And women need to be thinking about this as much as what's that? 1.00
00:19:10.000 The kids' disposable diapers, you mean? 0.95
00:19:12.000 Yeah.
00:19:12.000 I mean, the environmentalism is crazy.
00:19:16.000 Everything that they want to take away from this isn't just impacting men.
00:19:19.000 We're talking about impacting the everyday usage stuff that makes life easy.
00:19:25.000 That is not only impacts men, but impacts women too.
00:19:28.000 They're just not thinking about it yet.
00:19:29.000 We're getting your questions live here.
00:19:31.000 We want to do a live straw poll with you.
00:19:33.000 Who do you want Donald Trump to choose as his vice president?
00:19:37.000 We're going to have the results and tally them up and freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:19:41.000 Jack, please continue.
00:19:43.000 Look, this is where, and we haven't talked about it a lot yet, but maybe it's a good time to get into it because this is where you've seen Trump start to make moves now to pick up non-traditional Trump voters.
00:19:56.000 This is where this meeting with Elon Musk that just came out as really as these results were breaking tonight, I think plays a huge role because Elon Musk, his takeover of X, which I'm sure, by the way, came up in any discussion that those guys were having.
00:20:14.000 I'm sure we know that Elon wants Trump to come back very, very much.
00:20:18.000 I'm not saying his support would be contingent on something like that.
00:20:22.000 It's like Trump built the place and then walked away.
00:20:25.000 Then Elon came up and bought it.
00:20:27.000 And there's a whole, there's a very Shakespearean dynamic to the whole endeavor.
00:20:31.000 But going to the politics of it, Elon speaks to a base of people that are your Zen voters, your Zenfluencers, your Joe Rogan voters, your barstool guys.
00:20:42.000 He speaks to people that are kind of in sort of more the tech pro-coded world, the futurists.
00:20:48.000 These people are inherently, by and large, college degree holders, and it represents a way for Trump to reach them in a way that he wouldn't necessarily be able to just going through traditional conservative media.
00:21:01.000 And I say that, of course, as a guy who's a noted denizen of said conservative media.
00:21:06.000 I want to tell you guys the top two vote getters for the vice president.
00:21:10.000 Who do you think won the vice presidential poll just based on our amazing audience?
00:21:14.000 Oh, man.
00:21:16.000 Tucker Carlson.
00:21:17.000 No.
00:21:18.000 Number two, Carrie Lee. 1.00
00:21:19.000 Number two, Byron.
00:21:21.000 Vivek.
00:21:21.000 Number one.
00:21:22.000 Vivek Ramaswamy.
00:21:23.000 Vivek.
00:21:24.000 Vivek.
00:21:25.000 By the way, we're going to keep it.
00:21:25.000 That's just as of right now.
00:21:26.000 So if you guys want to get.
00:21:28.000 I've been at events with Vivek over the last couple of months.
00:21:31.000 I mean, people are really, really warming up to him.
00:21:33.000 It's just, it's just true.
00:21:35.000 Yeah.
00:21:35.000 And Vivek is amazing.
00:21:36.000 Vivek is going to come out all the way to California and speak at our investor conference that we're doing, Tyler, for our top donors.
00:21:42.000 He's nice enough to fly all the way across the country for that.
00:21:45.000 He's a total patriot, really, really great guy.
00:21:48.000 And I think very highly of Vivek.
00:21:49.000 So if you guys want to contribute to the vice presidential poll, email us freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:21:56.000 I want to get Tyler now to riff.
00:21:58.000 It is a perfect period of time.
00:22:00.000 Kirsten Cinema, no labels.
00:22:02.000 Tyler, walk us through it all.
00:22:04.000 So Kirsten Cinema delivered what sounded like a gubernatorial election speech today, which was all focused on Arizona. 0.99
00:22:12.000 She announced that she was no longer considering running for Senate.
00:22:17.000 This has been speculated for the last number of weeks, really last couple of months, because she hadn't announced that she was going to run.
00:22:23.000 And you need a significant amount of signatures to make the ballot in Arizona for U.S. Senate.
00:22:28.000 And so she hadn't been doing that.
00:22:29.000 And so there's basically one month left.
00:22:32.000 There was this last week.
00:22:33.000 It was one month left to collect signatures and she had it announced.
00:22:36.000 And so everyone was speculating, like, how hard is it going to be for her to collect enough?
00:22:40.000 That would be really embarrassing for her not to make the ballot and decide to run. 0.99
00:22:43.000 And so a lot of people had come to the conclusion she wasn't going to run.
00:22:47.000 This was a couple of weeks ago.
00:22:48.000 But the question, big question is, is what, well, what is she doing then?
00:22:51.000 Is she going to try to make a presidential run? 1.00
00:22:53.000 Is she going to try to get some kind of high-paid lobbying gig? 1.00
00:22:58.000 Is she going to try to do something else? 0.94
00:23:01.000 And her speech today to me, if you listen to her speech that she gave and she posted, so she posted on Super Tuesday, which a lot of people speculated again, that that was strategic, that she didn't want to make massive news, that she wasn't trying to rock the boat.
00:23:15.000 She wasn't trying, she was trying to just slip in, you know, and catch the early cycle before all the results came in. 0.98
00:23:22.000 And she basically gave a speech that talked about how moderate she is and how good she's been to Arizonans.
00:23:31.000 So you think she might run for governor of Arizona? 0.87
00:23:33.000 Is that right?
00:23:34.000 If all I had to go off of was basically today alone for the most part, I would suspect that there seems to be an undercurrent. 0.85
00:23:42.000 We're not stupid.
00:23:43.000 There's an undercurrent that clearly is trying to get her to consider to run for governor because the Chamber of Commerce, who's been best buddies with Kirsten Cinema, the state chamber of commerce, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, who's been really close with Kirsten Cinema, is looking at Kirsten Cinema and going, she would be much better than Katie Hobbs.
00:24:02.000 And we don't like anyone that's pro-Trump.
00:24:04.000 And Arizona is probably going to produce a pro-Trump Republican as their nominee for governor.
00:24:10.000 And so why not try to encourage Kirsten Cinema to run for governor? 0.80
00:24:14.000 So let me ask you then, does just all, and we love Kerry Lake, we've endorsed Kerry Lake, but I need to ask the tough question.
00:24:21.000 Does Kirsten Cinema not running in the Senate race help Kerry Lake or hurt Kerry Lake? 0.90
00:24:26.000 It would be foolish to say that it helps Kerry Lake because Kirsten.
00:24:30.000 Do you think Kerry would agree with that?
00:24:32.000 Look, I mean, here's the point that I'll make, which is it's better for voters if they have a clear difference between candidates.
00:24:42.000 Kirsten Cinema, what she was doing is muddying the waters and winning votes for people that really don't really care or know what's going on or didn't want to vote on any issues because they viewed her as like the alternate candidate. 0.90
00:24:55.000 And this is the RFK problem for Democrats.
00:24:59.000 More Democrats will end up voting for that type of a person than Republicans today.
00:25:04.000 That's just a fact, right?
00:25:05.000 That's just, that's just like we're seeing that come to play, seen that come to fruition.
00:25:09.000 So Kirsten being out of the race, it's good and it's bad.
00:25:12.000 It's bad because probably more Democrats are going to defect from a bad candidate like Ruben Gallego, like Joe Biden, and vote for that person, like an RFK or a Kirsten Cinema or an alternate, alternative candidate.
00:25:27.000 The good news is, is that we have a clear opportunity now to paint a picture in Arizona for here is what Republicans stand for.
00:25:36.000 Here's what Democrats stand for.
00:25:37.000 No muddy.
00:25:38.000 No muddy independent stuff.
00:25:40.000 And honestly, Charlie, it's kind of like when you look at a football game and people are like, should we kick the extra point and go into overtime, the second overtime?
00:25:49.000 Or go for the win.
00:25:49.000 Or go for the win.
00:25:50.000 Go for two and go for the win.
00:25:51.000 It's kind of one of those moments where it's like, go for the win, right?
00:25:54.000 Go for two, end it, right?
00:25:54.000 Go for the win.
00:25:56.000 And some people, you flub it.
00:25:58.000 Kansas State flubbed it against the University of Texas this year and they went for two and they lost the game. 1.00
00:26:03.000 And everyone looks at you and goes, you're an idiot for that. 1.00
00:26:07.000 But when you win, you're the hero. 1.00
00:26:09.000 You're the hero.
00:26:09.000 Like LSU, Alabama.
00:26:10.000 Get that clip.
00:26:11.000 Let me think about it.
00:26:12.000 Jaden Daniels, former Sun Devil, last year against number one or number two, Alabama, went for the win, and they got it.
00:26:19.000 They went for two.
00:26:21.000 You can get that clip last year, one of the best college football games last year.
00:26:24.000 So let me ask one more question.
00:26:25.000 I'm kind of grilling you here, Tyler.
00:26:27.000 If no labels becomes a thing involving cinema in some capacity, who would she be running with?
00:26:33.000 And does that help or hurt Donald Trump?
00:26:35.000 The problem for no labels is they're not in every state.
00:26:39.000 So having a because they haven't collected signatures?
00:26:42.000 Yeah, having a viable.
00:26:43.000 And at this point, if you don't have a ticket to go out and get the rec, it's different every state to get on the presidential ballot.
00:26:50.000 If you haven't done the required work to do that, you're not going to get on.
00:26:54.000 And so you don't have a viable pathway forward.
00:26:56.000 Now, the question is, is no labels not a real thing and just trying to sink the Republican ship, Donald Trump ship, whatever.
00:27:04.000 And the no labels people will tell you no.
00:27:07.000 That's not the point.
00:27:08.000 And the Democrats have tried to can no labels because they're afraid that no labels will actually take more votes away from them.
00:27:14.000 So I don't think that I think at this point, we would have seen the strategy, the no label strategy already play out if this was a nationwide thing.
00:27:23.000 So you don't think it's going to be drafted?
00:27:25.000 But hold on, if it's just targeted.
00:27:27.000 Could it get hijacked by?
00:27:28.000 Hold on.
00:27:29.000 If they target, let's say Romney runs and they go Idaho, Utah, Arizona, the three most populous LDS states and Nevada, that's a splinter campaign.
00:27:39.000 Right, but they would have to hijack the national nomination. 0.88
00:27:43.000 So it doesn't take an MSNBC very long to call everybody a bunch of racists.
00:27:48.000 Joy Reid, Republican voters don't based on economics, vote based on economics.
00:27:52.000 They're voting based on race.
00:27:53.000 Play cut 43.
00:27:55.000 But Republican voters don't vote that way.
00:27:58.000 They don't vote based on economics or based on the benefits they're getting economically from the president.
00:28:03.000 They're increasingly, from the Tea Party on, they're voting on race. 0.84
00:28:07.000 They're voting on this idea of an invasion of brown people over the border. 0.72
00:28:10.000 The idea that they can't get whatever job they want. 1.00
00:28:13.000 A black person got it, therefore drive all the blacks out of the colleges, get rid of DEI. 0.99
00:28:18.000 That is what they're voting on. 1.00
00:28:19.000 They're just voting specifically on racial animals.
00:28:22.000 At this stage, it isn't about economics.
00:28:24.000 No.
00:28:26.000 What's amazing is she doesn't, I mean, it's not amazing, but Blake, she doesn't cite this at all.
00:28:31.000 She makes this wide sweeping generalization with no evidence, no data.
00:28:36.000 It's just kind of this gut, awful tribal racist feeling.
00:28:40.000 It's just the same thing they've been doing since 2016. 0.91
00:28:44.000 This is a white lash.
00:28:45.000 They just, they're hitting the same button over and over again.
00:28:49.000 And you can sense this shrill meltdown some of them are having that the button isn't quite working as well as it used to.
00:28:56.000 It seemed to be working really well in 2020.
00:28:59.000 And it's like they fried it.
00:29:01.000 The stuff, their old tactics are not working nearly as much anymore.
00:29:05.000 And it's causing quite a few of them to go berserk.
00:29:08.000 And I think we'll see, I think we'll see a lot of that really unhinged state they got into in 2020 come back.
00:29:15.000 And I think a promising thing is I think that will turn off a lot more people than it used to.
00:29:20.000 Let's go to some of the exit polls here.
00:29:23.000 And let's go to this.
00:29:25.000 Let's go to Cut 45. 0.85
00:29:26.000 CBS talks to black voters as polls show that support for President Biden among black voters has gone down.
00:29:32.000 I'm going to have a nice dialogue with Blake on this.
00:29:34.000 Blake is very black-pilled on the black voter issue. 0.90
00:29:38.000 Play cut 45.
00:29:40.000 Why did you vote for President Biden in the last?
00:29:43.000 Because of who he ran with.
00:29:44.000 He was in the White House for the eight previous years.
00:29:46.000 I felt like he had the experience.
00:29:48.000 But definitively, right now, I couldn't tell you that if they open the polls tomorrow, I'm voting Joe Biden.
00:29:54.000 So what changed?
00:29:55.000 Life.
00:29:57.000 The inflation and the things that we're going through right now.
00:30:00.000 I want the right person so that I'm not paying $8 for eggs, $15 for gas.
00:30:06.000 Even though things may be improving economically, you feel there's a disconnect.
00:30:10.000 Yeah, there is a disconnect.
00:30:12.000 So how are they proving economically if you don't do massive SPAC deals?
00:30:16.000 Blake, you've said that this is kind of a twitch on the right.
00:30:16.000 All right.
00:30:22.000 Yes.
00:30:22.000 Okay.
00:30:23.000 It's the right for understandable reasons, but the right is very obsessed with winning the black vote.
00:30:32.000 And we should probably win all votes because it's good to win votes.
00:30:35.000 Do you think that Trump is probably doing better with this community?
00:30:39.000 I think Trump will possibly do better with this group in this election cycle than he did in 2016 or 2020.
00:30:48.000 That would be good.
00:30:48.000 I think he's going to do better with that.
00:30:50.000 That I don't know.
00:30:51.000 I think it's difficult to measure.
00:30:53.000 I think it's worth remembering that black voters are the ones who made Joe Biden the nominee.
00:31:00.000 Joe Biden has done a lot to entrench black voters' role within the Democratic Party.
00:31:07.000 He made South Carolina their first primary.
00:31:10.000 And they basically are the Democrats in that state.
00:31:13.000 So he went and said black voters get the first crack at voting on the Democrat nominee.
00:31:18.000 He's made a lot of black political operatives in the Democratic Party very powerful within the Democrats.
00:31:24.000 You know, we were talking earlier today about the rules committee of the DNC.
00:31:29.000 He's put a lot of black Democrats on that committee.
00:31:34.000 So I think there's it's easy for Republicans to miss this because understandably we don't really track internal Democrat Party drama, but he's done a lot to build up that faction of the party.
00:31:47.000 It's definitely possible that a lot of them are going to look and say, oh, wait, open borders is terrible.
00:31:51.000 Joe Biden has low energy, has all this bad stuff.
00:31:55.000 There is a certain magnetism to Trump that seems to override everything else that people are supposed to vote based on.
00:32:02.000 But what I would just say is the Republican Party has a cyclical habit of bluntly fixating on the black vote. 0.58
00:32:10.000 And I don't think we should do that because we are supposed to be the party that does not care, that is not obsessed about race. 0.61
00:32:16.000 And here's a blunt fact: there are more Hispanic voters in the United States than there are black voters.
00:32:22.000 For that matter, there are more white voters in the United States than there are black voters. 0.55
00:32:25.000 Of course, but I think that we can say that when you're underperforming a group by 90 plus percent, and that group is in a battleground state like Georgia, it doesn't hurt to try to do five points. 0.59
00:32:37.000 Certainly, it doesn't.
00:32:37.000 But they are a group that swings less.
00:32:40.000 Whereas, for example, white voters, especially working-class white voters, swing more.
00:32:44.000 20 or 30%.
00:32:45.000 They're bigger swingers, if you want to put it that way.
00:32:47.000 Okay, they're not swingers.
00:32:50.000 Come on, they are more swingy in the sense that look at Iowa.
00:32:54.000 Iowa's a great example of this.
00:32:56.000 Iowa is a state that went for Obama pretty easily, and now it's going to Trump pretty easily.
00:33:01.000 New Hampshire whips back and forth.
00:33:04.000 Sort of moderate white voters are the ones who are swingy. 0.66
00:33:09.000 They are the ones who can be won by one party or the other based on what's going on.
00:33:14.000 And importantly, why did Trump lose in 2020?
00:33:18.000 He actually did do better with black voters and with Hispanic voters, but he lost because he lost a lot of the white vote.
00:33:25.000 We use the word thwarted from power, not lost.
00:33:30.000 Thwarted from whatever.
00:33:32.000 Pick the words you want.
00:33:34.000 But I would never say that.
00:33:37.000 I would never say don't campaign for the black vote.
00:33:39.000 We should try to get every vote we can.
00:33:41.000 We should try to get the Asian votes.
00:33:42.000 They're pretty numerous too.
00:33:44.000 But what I would say is it's a tick you notice where the Republicans sort of concede ground to the Democrats that these are the most important votes and that Republicans don't have legitimacy as a political party if they're not winning these votes.
00:34:02.000 And that's not a position we should.
00:34:05.000 I don't think that's right. 0.88
00:34:06.000 But so some of the polling shows, New York Times polling a 20-point swing with black voters. 0.58
00:34:11.000 If that is half true, Trump is president. 0.97
00:34:14.000 Definitely.
00:34:15.000 Okay, you agree.
00:34:16.000 If that happens, yes.
00:34:17.000 But what I would say is, I've been around these elections for a while.
00:34:22.000 That makes me sound ancient.
00:34:23.000 I've seen several elections, and every single one of them, except 2008, no one ever thought, no one thought Biden was or Obama was getting less than 97% of the black vote at that election.
00:34:34.000 But every single time, I will see the narrative that this is the time Republic, there's this poll or that story. 0.62
00:34:40.000 This is the time Republicans are breaking through and they're going to get 25 or 30% of the black vote. 0.69
00:34:46.000 And the reason you have to be careful is they will throw a lot of resources at this.
00:34:49.000 They will throw a lot of emphasis on this and then it doesn't pan out.
00:34:53.000 And so as a matter of political strategy.
00:34:55.000 But if you're talking about Georgia, you win 50,000 black voters. 0.77
00:34:59.000 It's done. 0.91
00:35:00.000 50,000 new.
00:35:01.000 Right, Tyler?
00:35:02.000 50,000 new black patriots. 0.87
00:35:05.000 It's over. 0.85
00:35:06.000 It makes it very difficult for the Democrats to win Georgia.
00:35:10.000 Or North Carolina or Wisconsin.
00:35:12.000 Wisconsin has a ton of black votes.
00:35:13.000 Well, I think there's a different type of black issue-based voter in Wisconsin than Georgia. 0.57
00:35:22.000 Okay.
00:35:23.000 I think I don't know what the big difference would be.
00:35:25.000 Well, I think there is probably a slightly more Midwestern wrinkle.
00:35:32.000 I think there's a slightly more active churchgoer that's in Georgia. 0.92
00:35:37.000 Oh, yeah, more religious, more religious black movements.
00:35:40.000 So there's a more working class in Wisconsin? 0.85
00:35:42.000 Which, which, again, that number will still probably go up.
00:35:46.000 But I would expect that possibly you see the religious vote go significantly up.
00:35:51.000 But again, this is where it's like, maybe that's why the Democrats are going to abandon Georgia a little bit more, right?
00:35:57.000 Maybe that's why they're going to abandon Arizona.
00:35:59.000 You see the Hispanic votes going up 10 points for Trump.
00:36:03.000 The bigger issue for us is how are they trying to make up those votes? 0.52
00:36:07.000 So in the same argument that we were making about losing college-educated, middle-class white people, and for Republicans, they're looking at this and going, oh, they're already two steps ahead of us. 0.59
00:36:21.000 Going, we're already expecting to lose X amount of the minority communities. 0.94
00:36:26.000 And by the way, many of those votes only turned out because we chased them. 0.93
00:36:30.000 So all we have to do is not chase those people that are going to potentially vote against us and focus on the other pockets that are going to vote for us, which in this case, again, is middle-class, college-educated white women, right? 0.51
00:36:45.000 And so that's where the Democrats are shifting.
00:36:47.000 And that's why they're so far ahead of us is because they can isolate those pockets, message micro-target to those pockets, and say we can make up 20 or 30 or 40,000 votes here or there in different parts of the state.
00:36:58.000 I want to get Jack in on this.
00:37:00.000 Jack, your thoughts on the emphasis on black voters.
00:37:05.000 I don't agree with Blake.
00:37:06.000 I don't think it's a pathological fixation.
00:37:08.000 In fact, I don't think it gets nearly the resources that it warrants or it deserves. 0.95
00:37:11.000 Is it a fool's errand, Jack?
00:37:16.000 So there's different, you know, there's different ways to look at this as well, because in the sense that, you know, I get the aggregate question about are you going to get enough voters over marginally of a group that is less than 20% of the country in order to swing any of the key states that we need.
00:37:35.000 So the states that we need, we're going to be talking about, of course, the Rust Belt.
00:37:39.000 So Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, those are the swing states in the Rust Belt.
00:37:43.000 Then in the Sun Belt, you have Georgia and Arizona.
00:37:46.000 Georgia, of course, is a state with about a, we just got the data here in the chat here.
00:37:51.000 So 33, 34% black population currently.
00:37:56.000 And so that's a state at least where you could really see some dig in.
00:38:00.000 Of course, Georgia, a lot of people remember this is the state that supposedly gave Biden the presidency and certainly the nomination.
00:38:06.000 And so what I would also point out, though, is that in the very same way that we were just talking about how people in the Midwest have adopted, you know, through, and I think the jury's still out on where exactly it comes from, but from this Midwest NICE perspective, there's just generally a sense that people want to see a candidate that is campaigning for all votes.
00:38:27.000 Americans want to see, and certainly the American moderate and certainly the American independent want to see a candidate that's not cutting off demographic groups.
00:38:34.000 Now, we can argue over whether or not too much time is spent on one thing or another, but you do want to see a candidate.
00:38:40.000 And this will help with white voters.
00:38:42.000 It'll help with Hispanic voters.
00:38:44.000 It'll help with Muslim voters.
00:38:45.000 It'll help with voters across the board if you do have a candidate who seems like he's genuinely attempting to achieve all of those, all those support of all those groups.
00:38:55.000 Okay, let's go here.
00:38:57.000 Okay.
00:38:57.000 MSNBC panel mocks the fact that immigration is a top issue for voters across the country, including in Virginia.
00:39:05.000 They laugh.
00:39:06.000 They laugh at the death of Lake and Riley. 1.00
00:39:08.000 They laugh at the illegals storming into the country, breaking into homes, raping innocent people. 1.00
00:39:14.000 They laugh at it. 1.00
00:39:14.000 Play Cut 46. 1.00
00:39:16.000 I mean, if you look at some of these exipoles, I mean, I live in Virginia.
00:39:19.000 Immigration was the number one issue.
00:39:22.000 I mean, again, this could change.
00:39:24.000 And in Virginia.
00:39:24.000 Well, Virginia does have a border with West Virginia.
00:39:28.000 Very contested area.
00:39:30.000 What?
00:39:32.000 Laughing at immigration being the top issue.
00:39:34.000 Tyler.
00:39:35.000 Oh, they gave Nikki Haley four delegates already. 1.00
00:39:40.000 They now have four.
00:39:41.000 She has four delegates.
00:39:42.000 She won four delegates.
00:39:44.000 It's over.
00:39:45.000 This is a failure.
00:39:46.000 Can you imagine having to be one of the people who has to commit your vote to Nikki Haley at the convention?
00:39:53.000 You have to go to the convention.
00:39:54.000 Could you imagine?
00:39:55.000 Like, they're going to be harassed.
00:39:56.000 They'd be like, you're going to be picked on what's his face on the substance.
00:40:01.000 Yeah, they're going to be like, you're a Nikki Haley delegate.
00:40:05.000 I found you.
00:40:05.000 To make their hats.
00:40:06.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:40:08.000 The big cone, big dunce hat.
00:40:11.000 We found you.
00:40:13.000 But to your point, Charlie, I mean, this is, I mean, we're in a time that this is, and this is what Republicans have been saying for a long time in some of their border states.
00:40:22.000 Not many years ago was a law passed called SB 1070 in Arizona, which basically gave the police the ability to aid and assist ICE.
00:40:33.000 And that was really a popular thing.
00:40:35.000 And it still is today in Arizona because you have victims of violent crimes happening, not just in Arizona now, but all over the country where we're seeing infiltration.
00:40:46.000 And Democrats are getting very uncomfortable, even in big cities where they're seeing just large drop-offs of military-aged men, individuals who have committed crimes.
00:40:56.000 I mean, look, if I was an enemy of America, I wouldn't be sending my best and brightest to my enemy.
00:41:05.000 I wouldn't be allowing that.
00:41:06.000 And you have to expect the opposite is true, too, which is that they're going to encourage and incentivize the worst people ever to flow across the border.
00:41:15.000 And that's part of what you're seeing.
00:41:17.000 It's not everything, but it's a big part of what you're seeing.
00:41:20.000 And as a person in Arizona, my family has had very close people within our family as victims of violent crime.
00:41:27.000 Sexual violent crime.
00:41:28.000 A violent crime.
00:41:29.000 And I won't go into details about it because it's private to my family, but it impacted my family for a long time.
00:41:37.000 And it wasn't just one or two people impacted.
00:41:40.000 It impacted rings of people.
00:41:42.000 And this is the same thing that goes for a lot of people are looking at this and they're going, we just had a report in Arizona come out today that we lost a lot of local farmers and local farming's down and big monopolized farming is increasing.
00:41:57.000 And part of this is because, you know, there is a, there is a, it's a difficult place to do business along the border states, to grow crops, to manage things, to manage a business, whether it's, we think of the stores and the burning that happened in Minnesota with everything with the summer of love.
00:42:15.000 When you have infiltration of your, of your cities, of your, of your state, it becomes more difficult and more what's the, what's the word I'm looking for?
00:42:28.000 More risky for you to enter into business and keep your business in that state.
00:42:33.000 And I think people are buckling down on the immigration issue and saying, I'm not going to own a bunch of land and subject my family and my farming to what's happening flowing across the border, especially in southern Arizona and southern Texas.
00:42:45.000 And it's met with mockery.
00:42:47.000 It's met with mockery on MSNBC if you believe that it is a top issue.
00:42:52.000 Let's play some more pieces of tape here.
00:42:55.000 Let's get there.
00:42:56.000 They're mocking the Texas thing.
00:42:57.000 Let's talk about Texas here because we'll have a nice little dialogue.
00:43:00.000 Is it a good, I think it's a great idea to go after Dade Phiel and all of this.
00:43:04.000 They think that Texas is no longer going to be red because of it.
00:43:07.000 Blake will probably agree.
00:43:08.000 Play cut 42.
00:43:10.000 Blue.
00:43:12.000 The sine wave.
00:43:13.000 Yeah.
00:43:13.000 And then coming down the other side to Texas will never be blue.
00:43:16.000 But the part of it.
00:43:17.000 Just switch to Texas used to be blue.
00:43:20.000 Texas used to be blue.
00:43:21.000 Will always be true.
00:43:22.000 That will always be true.
00:43:24.000 That's not true.
00:43:25.000 I think the Republicans are, I think it could take a minute, but the Republicans there hate each other so much that it usually isn't the rise of another party.
00:43:36.000 It's the weakening of the dominant party.
00:43:39.000 And I think nothing weakens a party like a civil war.
00:43:42.000 Can you talk, Chris, a little bit about what's going on right now with the Texas down ballots?
00:43:45.000 Yeah, I mean, the Texas state house basically is a three-party operation.
00:43:49.000 It's the Democratic Party and then the Republican Party is in two factions, which is basically the good old boys and the crazies.
00:43:54.000 And basically, the way the state works.
00:43:56.000 That feels a little crazy.
00:43:57.000 Yeah, I mean, look, the good old boys are hardcore right-wing, like ideologically, right?
00:44:01.000 But there's a sort of this kind of MAGA contingent that was even there before MAGA became MAGA and has always been this sort of process where they have supermajorities, but basically these contingents.
00:44:12.000 And right now, those two factions are in the most open war with each other they've ever been for a bunch of reasons, but largely because the Attorney General Ken Paxton was impeached by the Texas House and then acquitted by the Texas Senate.
00:44:22.000 Now, after being acquitted, he and his allies are out for revenge.
00:44:28.000 They're raining down holy hell.
00:44:30.000 Man, they're having a fun time tonight.
00:44:32.000 Yeah, we have some updates there on the Texas race.
00:44:36.000 Like to your point, Charlie, the runoff rules in Texas exist.
00:44:39.000 So if you don't get 50%, then it is going to a runoff.
00:44:42.000 Yeah, all these preemptive people putting on social media, Dave Phelen's been defeated.
00:44:46.000 There's no evidence.
00:44:47.000 There was early that it looked like it was over 50%, but now we're seeing some of these late votes coming in.
00:44:53.000 And we don't have a good idea of how what percentage has been counted, but it does look like a number of insurgent candidates that are on the Paxton side of that war have won or are winning.
00:45:07.000 They're getting over 50% very clearly.
00:45:10.000 And then there's a bunch of drag out races that have some of them have four or five candidates in them where it's under 50%.
00:45:20.000 And because of that, this thing is going to go to a runoff.
00:45:24.000 We brought up Katrina Pearson.
00:45:26.000 She is now neck and neck with the person, but there's a third candidate in the race.
00:45:30.000 So she's probably going to end up going to a runoff. 1.00
00:45:33.000 You have the Dade Phelan race.
00:45:34.000 So he's like there, that one's likely going to a runoff unless there's more votes to be counted that we're not aware of.
00:45:40.000 And that had a third person in the race, Alicia Davis. 1.00
00:45:44.000 So the one thing I'll point out, and this is good to pay attention to, is a lot of conservatives will get excited tonight going, yeah, we made it through the runoff, or yeah, we're showing them.
00:45:55.000 But it's very likely or very, there could be a real possibility that the person that's the third person or fourth person that's in this race were recruited by the establishment with the intent to try to split the vote for the insurgent because they know how unpopular they are.
00:46:11.000 And this is a common tactic that's used by the establishment.
00:46:15.000 And there's a lot of Bush money that's floating around Texas.
00:46:17.000 So I wouldn't put it past them.
00:46:19.000 I don't know these candidates.
00:46:19.000 I'm not intimately involved with any of these races.
00:46:22.000 So that may not be true for every one of these races, but I wouldn't be surprised if that is the case in some of these, which means that the conservatives are going to have to work really, really hard in the runoff to beat Dade Phelan, to beat other people to make sure all their votes turn back out because it's a weird runoff election date and that the third party candidate isn't there just to play spoiler to them.
00:46:44.000 This is one of the advertisements that was being run against Mark Robinson.
00:46:49.000 Rachel Maddow breaks down all this crap. 0.89
00:46:53.000 Again, I'm telling you, they have to sue MSNBC for what they're saying here. 0.98
00:46:58.000 Play Cut 51.
00:47:00.000 When you have to say the Holocaust was real and Hitler was evil, both in a primary ad, you know that this is not a normal primary year.
00:47:10.000 But Mark Robinson is not a normal primary winner.
00:47:13.000 He will be the Republican nominee for governor in North Carolina.
00:47:17.000 He has, in fact, called the Holocaust hogwash. 0.83
00:47:20.000 He says Beyonce is satanic.
00:47:23.000 He says the moon landing in 1969 may have been fake. 0.99
00:47:26.000 He says the civil rights movement in the 1960s was, quote, crap and that Martin Luther King was a communist. 0.98
00:47:33.000 He also says there is a secret ruling cabal that is part reptile, meaning part human, part reptile. 0.99
00:47:41.000 I don't know.
00:47:42.000 Have you seen some of these people?
00:47:43.000 They look pretty reptilian to me.
00:47:47.000 Mark Robinson on thought crime when?
00:47:49.000 I think we have to go through each of these one at a time.
00:47:51.000 Yes, because there's some things that they're, if he did say them.
00:47:54.000 So the reptile thing, totally real.
00:47:56.000 So no, I'm kidding.
00:47:57.000 I'm kidding.
00:47:58.000 By the way, I looked up his quote about this, the mean one.
00:48:02.000 I'm tired.
00:48:03.000 They said that he called the Holocaust hogwash, and it's just not true.
00:48:06.000 That's not what he said.
00:48:07.000 I'm telling you, get the whole clip, guys, on Gravian.
00:48:10.000 They call him a Holocaust denier on MSNBC.
00:48:14.000 We got to tweet that out.
00:48:15.000 We have to get the drum.
00:48:16.000 This will help Mark Robinson, by the way.
00:48:20.000 Get this out there right now.
00:48:22.000 And it gets the high ground for Mark Robinson.
00:48:25.000 Tyler, Blake, and Jack, thank you guys so much.
00:48:27.000 We also had some great thought crime conversation within it as well.
00:48:30.000 So it was time well spent.
00:48:32.000 God bless you guys and see you tomorrow.
00:48:36.000 Thanks so much for listening.
00:48:38.000 Everybody, email us as always freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:48:40.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.
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