The Charlie Kirk Show - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 37 — "Justice-Impacted" Nurses? Re-Colonize Haiti? Missing Kate Middleton?

00:00:00.000 Happy Saturday, everybody.

00:00:01.000 It is Thought Crime Saturday.

00:00:03.000 We have Tyler Boyer, Blake Neff, Jack Pasobic.

00:00:07.000 We talk about Jack Pasobic's book, which all of you should buy right out of the gate.

00:00:12.000 Also, I want to update that.

00:00:13.000 We have a Kate Middleton conversation where Blake speculates that she's dead.

00:00:17.000 There has been some breaking news regarding Kate Middleton.

00:00:20.000 She has cancer, unfortunately.

00:00:21.000 So just keep that in mind as we have this conversation here because it was recorded before the breaking news.

00:00:27.000 So keep that in mind.

00:00:28.000 We also talk about Trump's potential cabinet and Mayo Clinic becoming super woke.

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00:01:47.000 Okay, everybody, happy Thought Crime Thursday.

00:01:51.000 It is a very important day.

00:01:53.000 Lots of news items backed by Popular Demand or unpopular demand as Bud Light Boeing Blake.

00:01:58.000 Doesn't matter as long as it's heat.

00:02:00.000 It doesn't matter if they love you or hate you.

00:02:02.000 They just have to think about you.

00:02:03.000 Tyler, who is doing the best for sleep deprivation.

00:02:06.000 Yes.

00:02:06.000 Because we're hiring hundreds of ballot chasers.

00:02:08.000 I can't remember the last time I slept.

00:02:10.000 And Jack Pasobic, who congratulations, Jack, you have a new book coming out.

00:02:14.000 Tell us about it.

00:02:14.000 Plug it.

00:02:14.000 Let's get it to number one and all the stuff.

00:02:16.000 Unhumans. 0.97

00:02:17.000 Let's do it.

00:02:18.000 Let's do it.

00:02:18.000 Yeah.

00:02:19.000 It's called Unhumans. 1.00

00:02:20.000 What we've done is we took, people remember the China files we did on the show, Chronicles Revolution, where Blake actually was the guest host.

00:02:28.000 We've taken that and turned that into a new book all about cultural Marxism, the cultural Marxism that we've faced throughout the past, going through chapter by chapter the systems that these Marxists use in revolutions and uprisings around the world and how they're using the same type of system.

00:02:47.000 Now, we've identified the system.

00:02:49.000 We break it out using military strategy, using elements that I learned when I was in the intelligence community, and then create a system to systemically destroy and smash these revolutions when we see them.

00:03:03.000 So it's called Unhumans. 0.85

00:03:04.000 We did the announcement at Mar-a-Lago last night at the National Prayer Rally for Trump, and it's up Amazon.

00:03:11.000 Skyhorse is the publisher.

00:03:13.000 Really excited to be doing this, working with Joshua Lysak on it.

00:03:16.000 And it's, I mean, we're basically, it's going to be one of the biggest software upgrades, I think, that the right has seen in a long time because for so long, we complain about cultural Marxism, but we don't actually ever do anything about it.

00:03:30.000 And that's exactly what this book is.

00:03:32.000 We're going to talk and we're not going to be afraid to talk about the people like Franco and others who have fought Marxist Joseph McCarthy, by the way, over the years and actually done something about it.

00:03:43.000 Very good, Jack.

00:03:44.000 Congratulations on that.

00:03:45.000 Blake, what is our first topic?

00:03:46.000 Our first topic.

00:03:47.000 It's a Barnberg courtesy of Bloomberg.

00:03:50.000 We had a story earlier this week.

00:03:52.000 It's looking into the alleged inner workings at Mar-a-Lago preparing for Trump's hopeful second term.

00:03:59.000 The headline was that Trump has allegedly ruled out Vivek as a vice presidential pick, might want him as DHS secretary instead.

00:04:08.000 But us and others notice further in the article, a possible red flag.

00:04:14.000 Apparently, former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy is seen as a top candidate to be Trump's chief of staff in a second term.

00:04:24.000 And so the natural question is, what to make of this?

00:04:29.000 Is this a red flag?

00:04:30.000 And if it is, how big a one?

00:04:31.000 And there were other potential picks, I think, that were also entertained, right?

00:04:35.000 Like Vivek for DHS secretary.

00:04:37.000 Yeah, Vivek for DHS.

00:04:39.000 It says like Elise Stefanik is not a favorite for vice president anymore, but he likes her for an unnamed cabinet job.

00:04:46.000 It says he'd like to bring Ben Carson back.

00:04:48.000 Not clear what job it would be, but he is, you know, he liked him as a cabinet secretary last time, so could bring him back.

00:04:54.000 So let me ask Tyler this politically, Tyler, if do you think this sort of a leak, whether true or not, is attempted to try to deter base support for Trump, that it's going to be just kind of a personnel issue if Trump were to win another term?

00:05:09.000 Yeah, I mean, that's the way I read it, was that like nefarious people and other people who just like want to find some way to kind of bridge gaps with Kevin McCarthy tried to leak this just to create havoc, you know, within the conservative base.

00:05:25.000 Right now, I think the conservative base is consolidating earlier and faster and better than anyone could have anticipated.

00:05:33.000 And so the media and other nefarious characters are trying to find ways to create splits.

00:05:39.000 Yeah, the base does not like Kevin McCarthy, but Blake.

00:05:43.000 But the base wouldn't have liked Reines Priebus unless I know either.

00:05:46.000 But they didn't know Reines.

00:05:47.000 But as a chief of staff, what about Kevin McCarthy would bother you the most?

00:05:52.000 I just think what you're going to want in a chief of staff, it seems the reason, first, let's get the reason Trump wants McCarthy, which I think is Trump likes the idea of himself as this big deal maker.

00:06:04.000 He sees deals as Congress produces legislation that he can sign.

00:06:08.000 And you negotiate it.

00:06:08.000 And yeah, you negotiate this.

00:06:10.000 And so basically, McCarthy was in Congress, was a speaker, has relationships with all these members of Congress.

00:06:16.000 He can hammer out legislation.

00:06:17.000 Trump signs it, gets, you know, gets on stage, says, we made these deals.

00:06:21.000 We've made all these deals on stuff.

00:06:23.000 It's great.

00:06:24.000 I think what we want in a chief, and I think what Trump could easily appreciate in a chief, is you want an administrator.

00:06:35.000 You want an enforcer.

00:06:36.000 You want a details guy who's going to think, okay, what do we actually want to get done with all these different executive departments?

00:06:42.000 What can we do by executive order?

00:06:44.000 How can we achieve Donald Trump's agenda with the presumption that Congress is going to be hostile and slow and not do the things that you campaigned on?

00:06:54.000 And that's the kind of person that you want.

00:06:56.000 I don't necessarily say you want to pick a businessman, but you kind of want the sort of CEO where that's coming to mind is dictator.

00:07:05.000 We don't want a dictatorship, but like literally a guy who's going to view the executive branch as something as a weapon to be used for your political agenda.

00:07:15.000 But I just, you look at, let me ask you a question.

00:07:17.000 Do you think Kevin McCarthy would be better than like John Kelly?

00:07:21.000 You know, I don't know if he would.

00:07:23.000 John Kelly, of course, it ended badly with Trump in a lot of ways.

00:07:26.000 But John Kelly was an improvement over Reince Priebus in terms of.

00:07:30.000 Do you think you need an ideological chief of staff or do you want someone who really knows how to work DC? 0.95

00:07:36.000 I'm just, I'm not making the case for McCarthy, but I actually don't think it's the dumbest idea I've ever heard.

00:07:41.000 Think you want either an ideologue or a person who is so committed to just being an effective chief of staff that they execute on that MAGA ideology, even if they don't personally hold to it.

00:07:56.000 Like they just want to be seen as the super effective Trump-enabling chief of staff.

00:08:01.000 But I think ideology is something that you would want.

00:08:04.000 And if you just want someone who's going to do what's easiest, or and if they're moderate by disposition, they'll do what we had too much of in 2017.

00:08:14.000 They'll just say, hey, Congress, pass whatever you want, and Trump will sign it because he wants to be able to sign legislation and say it was a great deal.

00:08:22.000 And then we'll get amnesty.

00:08:24.000 We'll get tax cuts on things that we don't want tax cuts on.

00:08:28.000 We'll get, you know, all this China enabling stuff.

00:08:33.000 We'll get uniparty stuff.

00:08:35.000 And that's not what we want.

00:08:36.000 Well, yeah, okay, go ahead.

00:08:38.000 Well, I just want to throw this out there, Charlie.

00:08:39.000 So there's a couple of things that are out on the, that everyone needs to be aware of.

00:08:43.000 So you have Project 2025, which has been covered a lot in the media, which is the heritage run, working with all the conservative groups on preparing the foundation administration.

00:08:52.000 So it seems like a chief of staff would need to really jive with that group, right?

00:08:57.000 And I don't see Kevin McCarthy really being totally in sync with that.

00:09:01.000 Although I don't think there's, you know, I just don't think it's the worst.

00:09:07.000 I mean, he's someone, he was Speaker of the House.

00:09:10.000 I mean, that I'm just saying if they do all this work ahead of time, they're probably going to lobby for somebody that's going to be like in line.

00:09:16.000 And I don't think McCarthy's probably the top pick out of that group and AFPI either.

00:09:20.000 I will tell you someone that I think is... 0.83

00:09:21.000 I think Brooke Rollins is going to be a front runner.

00:09:23.000 So Brooke, but who else?

00:09:24.000 Russ Vogt.

00:09:26.000 Somebody else?

00:09:27.000 Kevin Roberts from Heritage.

00:09:29.000 Close?

00:09:32.000 Not Meadows or I would suggest this.

00:09:35.000 Lee Zeldon.

00:09:36.000 Oh, that's interesting.

00:09:37.000 So Lee's super involved with these groups.

00:09:40.000 Super involved.

00:09:41.000 The AFPI, which is Trump's.

00:09:42.000 And he still has the Congress angle.

00:09:44.000 And he has the Congress angle, which is, you need that.

00:09:46.000 Like, like you're saying, Charlie, you need somebody that's an insider that understands what's going on.

00:09:50.000 Lee gets that.

00:09:51.000 And I think that he's respected enough by all of us.

00:09:53.000 I think Zeldon is a terrific idea.

00:09:55.000 So, Jack, I want to get your opinion here.

00:09:58.000 Again, I always got along with Kevin.

00:09:59.000 He treated our Turning Point USA students so well on the Hill.

00:10:02.000 So I just considering how I was not treated always great by White House chief of staffs, I selfishly am like, hey, if Kevin was chief of staff, I actually think that'd be kind of great for Turning Point USA.

00:10:13.000 I'm just being very transparent.

00:10:14.000 Because, right, Tyler, he brought our student body presidents and treated him like rock stars.

00:10:14.000 Yeah.

00:10:18.000 No, you know, that was great.

00:10:19.000 So I just want to, I want to make sure we're clear on Kevin.

00:10:21.000 The ideological difference is the thing I've always told people, I disagree with Kevin McCarthy on a lot of things, right?

00:10:28.000 Like on his stances ideologically.

00:10:31.000 I appreciate when people are honest ideologues, when they, when he's.

00:10:36.000 He's not ideological.

00:10:37.000 He doesn't have deep like Lee helicopters.

00:10:38.000 Well, I mean, I mean, he's a moderate, right?

00:10:40.000 So he's an honest moderate.

00:10:42.000 So versus we sometimes have dishonest moderates who pretend to be conservative, who are actually moderates.

00:10:47.000 Kevin McCarthy's always been, I'm a moderate.

00:10:50.000 This is who I am.

00:10:51.000 And like, I'll work with you on X, Y, and Z.

00:10:53.000 We also have conservatives who actually turn out to be moderates.

00:10:57.000 So people who pretend to be conservatives who turn out to be moderates.

00:11:00.000 I prefer an honest moderate over a dishonest conservative.

00:11:04.000 I agree.

00:11:05.000 So, Jack, sorry, it's hard.

00:11:06.000 Just we're keep talking over you.

00:11:08.000 Your thoughts, Jack?

00:11:10.000 Yeah, so kind of echoing what you say, I think that Kevin was great in terms of the way that he was able to be open with TPUSA.

00:11:21.000 I think that he was very open with a lot of people in the conservative movement and certainly on the MAGA part side of the house.

00:11:28.000 I agree with what Tyler's saying about his stance on a lot of the issues.

00:11:32.000 I guess my one concern, though, regarding that specifically and why I'd be why I would say Lee Zeldon ahead of McCarthy for chief of staff is that with Zeldon, you have this situation where people, you know, I think everybody on all sides of the Republican Party has a lot of goodwill, or I should say Zeldon has a lot of goodwill with them.

00:11:57.000 Whereas with Kevin, I feel like you risk kind of reigniting the entire rift that led to him being pushed out as speaker to begin with.

00:12:07.000 And I'm not saying that he isn't qualified or anything like that.

00:12:09.000 I'm just saying that it feels like it would reignite a lot of the things that have kind of simmered down since then.

00:12:15.000 Yeah, just the best example would be someone who is like the unknown CEO of a mid-major publicly traded company that took it from good to great.

00:12:26.000 Yeah.

00:12:27.000 And you want to, because what's the problem we had so much in the first Trump administration?

00:12:31.000 You know, you do an executive order and then the staff would just, you know, not do it.

00:12:36.000 We've had, we've had James Bacon on the show and he talk about this. 0.93

00:12:39.000 You have those executive personnel parasites. 0.97

00:12:42.000 They slow play everything. 0.99

00:12:43.000 They ignore things.

00:12:44.000 They misinterpret your orders.

00:12:46.000 I feel like you want a chief of staff who's going to be tracking those things.

00:12:51.000 And, you know, he follows up on it.

00:12:54.000 Not two months later, not two years later, but two days later, two weeks later, says, why didn't you do this?

00:12:59.000 Oh, you're ignoring it.

00:13:00.000 You're fired.

00:13:01.000 I think Vivek would be perfect.

00:13:03.000 The only problem is Vivek wants to be president too bad to be chief of staff.

00:13:07.000 And by the way, that's not like a negative.

00:13:07.000 Yeah.

00:13:09.000 He literally ran for president.

00:13:10.000 I feel like you want a chief of staff who does not want to be president of the state.

00:13:13.000 I think you want a guy who recedes into the background.

00:13:16.000 I mean, how many things do you remember Joe Biden's chief of staff doing?

00:13:19.000 Ron Klain is mentioned the least of any chief of staff ever.

00:13:23.000 That's why Rylan Mannel didn't work out.

00:13:24.000 As disastrous as their presidency is, they do a lot of things.

00:13:28.000 Someone's organizing all those lawsuits against Elon Musk.

00:13:30.000 Someone's organizing.

00:13:31.000 You know who would be a good archetype is Tim Cook.

00:13:35.000 So Tim Cook.

00:13:36.000 Tim Apple.

00:13:37.000 Yes.

00:13:37.000 Tim Apple.

00:13:38.000 Tim Apple.

00:13:39.000 Now, again, Tim Apple, he de-celebritized Apple successfully.

00:13:46.000 Apple was a little bit of like the Steve Jobs celebrity cult while he was alive.

00:13:51.000 Would you agree?

00:13:52.000 It was like, this was Steve Jobs, Apple.

00:13:52.000 Yeah.

00:13:54.000 And Tim Cook, I definitely like, he's the opposite of Elon Musk.

00:13:59.000 He doesn't like the attention.

00:14:01.000 He keeps his head down.

00:14:02.000 He delivers.

00:14:03.000 Apple is more valuable than ever before.

00:14:06.000 I kind of like the Tim Cook archetype where it's just like, I'm just going to show up at 6 a.m.

00:14:11.000 Yes, sir.

00:14:12.000 I'm going to fulfill your agenda.

00:14:13.000 Tell you if I agree or disagree.

00:14:15.000 And then their life doesn't revolve around media cycles.

00:14:17.000 No, that's not a problem.

00:14:18.000 You want a guy who just is not, you know, the press is going to freak out on the hit pieces.

00:14:23.000 The new White House chief of staff should be like, you're never doing an interview.

00:14:26.000 Like this, we had a comms department.

00:14:28.000 I mean, I'm here to run the government.

00:14:30.000 By the way, you have Trump who's like, here's a crazy idea.

00:14:32.000 What if we didn't even have a comms department?

00:14:34.000 What if you just said the White House is going to do stuff?

00:14:36.000 And you need a comms department.

00:14:37.000 I think a Trump White House is so fun if you just literally never had to do a White House press conference.

00:14:37.000 I don't know.

00:14:45.000 No, no, you need to do that.

00:14:45.000 Although, if there's a national crisis, what are you going to do?

00:14:48.000 That's fair.

00:14:49.000 Then you can do it.

00:14:50.000 You still have it.

00:14:51.000 Although I want to highlight this line in the Bloomberg piece because it is just so typical of Trump.

00:15:00.000 Those who have participated in the discussions about the cabinet describe a quintessentially Trump experience in which the former president peppers the conversation with political observations and media critiques as a steady stream of food is served while he keeps an eye on cable news or chooses his favorite musical selections over dinner at his Mar-a-Lago club.

00:15:20.000 I guess you've been there and I haven't, but it sounds sounds like read that end part again.

00:15:26.000 He sits at his stream of food is served while he keeps an eye on cable news or chooses his favorite musical song.

00:15:32.000 No, I've said that before on the program where he's like, give me the iPad, give me the iPad.

00:15:36.000 And he has three, he loves Fan of the Opera.

00:15:39.000 And he loves this song.

00:15:40.000 You guys got to get this song.

00:15:42.000 It is with, I think it's with like Lionel Ritchie and like Fibonacci.

00:15:47.000 And it's like where they did the, it's like, no, no, it's James Brown and Fibonacci.

00:15:52.000 And it, they have this like joint song they did together.

00:15:56.000 It's like Trump's favorite song.

00:15:58.000 Um, and he plays it all the time.

00:16:01.000 And it's a, it's a legitimate, I'm going to find it on YouTube.

00:16:04.000 It's a legitimately beautiful song.

00:16:06.000 Um, but but here's the thing: Trump, to his credit, is actually the most open-minded, the least rigid person on the planet.

00:16:13.000 And this, he gets painted as being like super ideological or he will entertain any idea, any idea.

00:16:19.000 And he likes good and bad.

00:16:20.000 It's really good and really bad because sometimes there's ideas where it's like, no, no, no, no, it's Pavarotti.

00:16:25.000 There's so I'm sorry.

00:16:27.000 Did I say Pavilot?

00:16:28.000 What did I say?

00:16:30.000 You mentioned the Fibonacci, like Fibonacci's. 0.90

00:16:33.000 I'm all screwed up. 0.52

00:16:33.000 That's funny. 0.52

00:16:34.000 No, it's okay.

00:16:35.000 Paviloti.

00:16:36.000 It's like a remix.

00:16:36.000 There's so many.

00:16:37.000 But you're right. 0.95

00:16:38.000 Yeah, no, I'm all screwed up. 0.91

00:16:39.000 There are so many. 0.91

00:16:40.000 Yes, I found it.

00:16:40.000 It's a man world.

00:16:41.000 Okay.

00:16:41.000 This is it.

00:16:42.000 Yeah, it's really good.

00:16:43.000 No, it's really good.

00:16:44.000 It's just a good song.

00:16:45.000 I'm sorry.

00:16:46.000 I mean, it's just, there were so many people in the first administration where you just feel like that was a huge missed opportunity.

00:16:51.000 But there's also people, I won't name any names, but there are people I know who got appointed by Trump.

00:16:56.000 Some of them are still in the government in various places where you just think no one but Trump would have ever picked that person and they were a great choice.

00:17:04.000 And so it's, you know, you live by the Trump, die by the Trump.

00:17:07.000 But I think my leaning towards is, I hope that Kevin McCarthy is one of those ideas he entertains that he doesn't do.

00:17:16.000 I will say that the idea of a no media, no ascension.

00:17:21.000 So you need someone that is, it's not necessarily a huge step up, but it's a lateral move to become chief of staff, meaning that they're already at the height of the game.

00:17:30.000 Again, I think of just someone who is a CEO of a mid-major company with like a $30 to $40 billion market cap.

00:17:37.000 The problem is all those people are woke and they would never do it.

00:17:40.000 That just shows up because here's the problem that people don't understand is that to live at that game.

00:17:44.000 And Tyler, you know this by run managing that many staff, you do not sleep.

00:17:48.000 You have to be able to always be on your game.

00:17:50.000 You cannot leak.

00:17:51.000 You have to be so precise.

00:17:52.000 You have to be able to deal with different people.

00:17:55.000 It's a skill set that is really, really hard to find.

00:17:57.000 Really rare.

00:17:58.000 And it's, and there's not very many that have done it.

00:18:00.000 Even out of the biggest conservative organizations that exist, most don't have that many staff.

00:18:05.000 They don't.

00:18:06.000 And so, and you're dealing with the top line personalities, like you mentioned.

00:18:10.000 All these people who are serving in these positions are on their own alpha dogs.

00:18:15.000 So you have to deal with Trump.

00:18:17.000 You have to deal with all of these cabinet members.

00:18:20.000 You have to deal with everyone that you have to actually run the office in the West Wing.

00:18:24.000 You have to be the first point of contact ahead of the president for almost every how many people have actually done that?

00:18:32.000 There's very few.

00:18:34.000 And the ones that have rarely done that are in and out because it's so taxing.

00:18:39.000 That's why you really need somebody that has, like you said, a big personality that has the capacity to take in a lot of arrows, that has had a bunch of arrows shot at that person.

00:18:50.000 That's why a political person makes a ton of sense.

00:18:52.000 Someone that's served in office.

00:18:53.000 It's just the problem is that people that have served in office, they don't have the work.

00:18:57.000 Most don't have it.

00:18:58.000 They will be so overwhelmed by seven straight days of work from 7 a.m.

00:19:01.000 You all know that.

00:19:03.000 You do need the detail guy, though, because we know Trump is not that kind of detailed.

00:19:08.000 That's where Tim Cook comes in.

00:19:09.000 And you also know we have a huge problem with people undermining you.

00:19:09.000 Exactly.

00:19:12.000 So we're either going to need 17 cabinet secretaries who are detail people, but we know that won't be the case because some of them will just be, you know, we'll pick them to round out the cabinet in all those ways.

00:19:23.000 All right, we're going to play 20 seconds of this, and we'll talk about our partner with Rumble.

00:19:27.000 Uh, Jack, did you want to jump in?

00:19:31.000 Well, I guess the one thing that everybody has to throw out there is: what if one of those people's name uh rhymes with Charlie Kirk and if he were asked to go into it?

00:19:42.000 I would be a very bad chief of staff.

00:19:43.000 I would not be a good person.

00:19:44.000 There's roles I would be good with.

00:19:46.000 Chief of staff would not be one of them because it's not CEO.

00:19:49.000 That's what's important.

00:19:50.000 It's not CEO, it's more just kind of like the highest-level manager, right?

00:19:55.000 It's like a manager more than it is a CEO.

00:19:57.000 We would not have a problem with getting at least six days a week of effort out of Chief of Staff.

00:20:02.000 That's right.

00:20:03.000 Could you imagine?

00:20:04.000 Charlie, they're putting nuclear weapons in Cuba.

00:20:07.000 It's Shabbat Blake.

00:20:09.000 Tell them to wait till Sunday.

00:20:13.000 All right, 79.

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00:20:24.000 Literally, the favorite side.

00:20:30.000 This is the man to man's book.

00:20:38.000 This is the man, well.

00:20:43.000 So, when I say he plays this loud, you cannot hear yourself think.

00:20:47.000 You know, they called him, they called James Brown the hardest working man in Showbiz, and it just goes all the way as loud as it gets.

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00:21:40.000 What do we got next?

00:21:41.000 Our next thing is, we normally don't talk about this sort of thing, but it's just it piled up into such a big furball that we actually have a lot to say about it.

00:21:49.000 It's the royal family, Charlie.

00:21:51.000 So, you know, you guys proposed this in the chat, and I actually have become over the years like a soft lover of the idea of the monarchy.

00:22:03.000 I used to not be.

00:22:04.000 Oh, you don't like giving it?

00:22:05.000 You're rejecting, you're just rejecting the principles of the American Revolution, man.

00:22:08.000 You don't like tradition.

00:22:10.000 That's fine.

00:22:11.000 I just inherently, if something has lasted for a while, I have like this primal instinct to protect it from the bacterial infection.

00:22:17.000 Wait, but this is the bad.

00:22:19.000 I'm getting it.

00:22:19.000 I'm getting there, Joe.

00:22:20.000 So then, no, no, that's what Trump said too on this Nigel interview.

00:22:24.000 He's like, I like the concept of a royal family.

00:22:26.000 Okay.

00:22:26.000 So, anyway, I get on all these goofy Telegram channels that I'd say they have like a one out of 10 hit rate of stuff that are right.

00:22:35.000 And sometimes they're talking about stuff like Joe Biden is actually a mutant from Neptune.

00:22:40.000 It's like, okay, well, maybe.

00:22:42.000 But anyway, so the last week they've been posting these pictures that Kate Middleton is dead and it's a body double.

00:22:46.000 I've been paying attention to it.

00:22:47.000 Next thing you know, Blake, who's like the most normy person I know, is like, yeah, Kate Middleton might be dead.

00:22:53.000 So walk our audience through this for the uninitiated. 1.00

00:22:53.000 What in the fucking. 1.00

00:22:56.000 All righty. 1.00

00:22:57.000 So full background.

00:22:59.000 I suspect a lot of people know this, but in case they don't, this all started around the new year.

00:23:05.000 Kate Middleton, the Princess of Wales, all those titles she has now.

00:23:11.000 They announced she's going to do a surgery, an abdominal surgery.

00:23:14.000 They didn't say for what, except that it wasn't cancer.

00:23:17.000 And but it was apparently pretty involved, and they said she would be not doing public-facing stuff until after Easter.

00:23:23.000 So everyone's like, we haven't seen Kate Middleton anywhere for months, but she has literally said she would not be out in public.

00:23:30.000 But it caused all this rumor mill.

00:23:32.000 And then this went into Overdrive about a week ago.

00:23:35.000 Yeah, we have 73 up there.

00:23:35.000 Let's put up.

00:23:37.000 They put out some photo for, I can't even remember what the excuse was, but some holiday thing.

00:23:42.000 And they're like, here's a photo of Kate Middleton with her kids.

00:23:46.000 And it turned out this photo was touched up digitally.

00:23:50.000 So it looks shadow.

00:23:51.000 It was more than touched up.

00:23:52.000 But when people started to call it that it was touched up, people were like, no, it's a conspiracy theory.

00:23:55.000 It's not touched up.

00:23:56.000 But it actually wasn't.

00:23:57.000 It literally was touched up.

00:23:58.000 And she apologized for it.

00:24:00.000 She said it was just a minor thing.

00:24:01.000 And then we don't know where it was taken.

00:24:03.000 Some people have theorized it's a photo that predates her surgery, notably.

00:24:07.000 Yeah.

00:24:08.000 And so this just, people lost their minds.

00:24:11.000 So people have speculated that she's dead, that she's in a coma, that she's like splitting with the Prince of Wales because he's having an affair with this other woman or that he impregnated this other woman.

00:24:24.000 All rich Europeans have affairs.

00:24:26.000 So that's just kind of a.

00:24:27.000 Yeah, it's just, you know, Europeans don't have our sense of right and wrong on these things. 1.00

00:24:31.000 No, but literally, European culture is a fair culture.

00:24:34.000 Well, it's French culture, French culture.

00:24:36.000 It's permeated almost all royal culture.

00:24:38.000 Yeah.

00:24:38.000 And royal, of course.

00:24:40.000 They're almost all polygamists. 0.93

00:24:44.000 So not polygamists, but polyamorous, whatever.

00:24:46.000 Even weirder, though, the other day.

00:24:48.000 So you can put up 71.

00:24:51.000 So there was this video that went around or photo that they were out shopping together and people are, the conspiracy is that that's not her.

00:25:00.000 That's not Kate Middleton.

00:25:01.000 Now, crazy thing is Kate Middleton does have a body double and has used a body double in the past. 0.95

00:25:08.000 This is a known fact. 0.91

00:25:10.000 Now, the explanation is that they just use her in a minor way.

00:25:13.000 So which is the recent picture?

00:25:15.000 So can we tell the difference?

00:25:17.000 I don't know.

00:25:19.000 Allegedly, the one with the watermark is the recent picture.

00:25:23.000 But people are saying the heights are.

00:25:25.000 I would note.

00:25:26.000 Oh, that it looks like she lost weight, which is something that might happen if you were in, you know, you were in traction from surgery.

00:25:36.000 If you're recuperating, you might lose a bunch of weight, especially abdominal surgery, something, stomach, you know, digestion, et cetera.

00:25:43.000 Yeah, let's show 72.

00:25:45.000 This is the sort of stuff people are doing. 0.94

00:25:47.000 They're saying that she's not the right height.

00:25:49.000 Now, I think it's pretty obvious this could just be a perspective thing.

00:25:52.000 Like, is she a little bit behind William in one of the photos?

00:25:56.000 But people are losing their minds over this.

00:26:00.000 And I've decided, you know, it's thought crime.

00:26:02.000 We're allowed to embrace wild theories.

00:26:04.000 So I think I'm just going to take the bold stance.

00:26:08.000 Kate Middleton's dead.

00:26:10.000 William killed her and he should be in jail for it. 0.88

00:26:14.000 Wow. 0.75

00:26:14.000 I didn't expect that from. 0.75

00:26:16.000 Everyone blames me.

00:26:17.000 Everyone attacks me.

00:26:18.000 I always believe the normie thing.

00:26:20.000 I always believe the mainstream thing.

00:26:21.000 So I'm going to go against type and I'm going to say this is a royal murder mystery.

00:26:26.000 You know, it's even possible.

00:26:28.000 Maybe, have you seen that face-off movie, the John Wu movie?

00:26:30.000 No.

00:26:31.000 Well, one, you should watch it.

00:26:33.000 And two, maybe, maybe it's Kate Middleton's face on the mistress's body.

00:26:40.000 And like they just totally swapped her out.

00:26:43.000 I feel like I can speak to this a little bit because my wife has Crohn's. 0.90

00:26:49.000 So there's just like known surgery.

00:26:53.000 So when this first got announced, people thought, oh, well, she must have some kind of, you know, disease like Crohn's or something like that, where that's why she's getting surgery.

00:27:05.000 And by the way, you have to go through many, many different surgeries throughout your lifetime if you have some kind of a disease that's relevant to that.

00:27:17.000 So it's actually not shocking at all from what they said is like that she's undergoing the surgery in January.

00:27:24.000 It's going to be a while before she recovers.

00:27:25.000 And a lot of these are super invasive.

00:27:27.000 They take out big chunks of your intestine and you have to do that many times throughout your life.

00:27:33.000 It takes months to recover from that.

00:27:36.000 So I'm not shocked at all that they wouldn't want her out in public.

00:27:40.000 But the sketchy thing is like, why are you putting out fake pictures?

00:27:43.000 Why are there like potentially body double situations going out?

00:27:47.000 If she said she wasn't going to be out in public until April, why is she doing that? 0.92

00:27:52.000 Right.

00:27:52.000 Like, that's the question that I think that's brought everybody.

00:27:54.000 Yeah.

00:27:55.000 The big meta issue, of course, is, is it unhealthy for America that we like care about this to any degree?

00:28:00.000 Well, I just think we care about government corruption and like government lines.

00:28:05.000 It's highly significant.

00:28:06.000 Foreign governments and it's even corruption.

00:28:08.000 It's they're just sort of designated state-owned celebrities in the UK in like a weird way.

00:28:15.000 I think it's more likely she got an invasive surgery that, I mean, she's a royal.

00:28:21.000 So, you know, like they don't want to see these people like recovering and they don't want there's like a bunch of people like that are looking at you and like how you're parenting and how you're doing your job and all that stuff.

00:28:33.000 So it's just easier for them probably just to disappear. 0.66

00:28:37.000 And it was probably just a stupid decision on behalf of the social media team of the royal family to be like, well, people are getting concerned. 0.98

00:28:45.000 So let's just do this. 1.00

00:28:47.000 Like, and that was a dumb idea. 0.99

00:28:48.000 Or the booster shot killed her. 1.00

00:28:50.000 It could be.

00:28:51.000 See, we're moving Blake along.

00:28:53.000 Look, it's just.

00:28:54.000 Now I could sign up for that.

00:28:55.000 It was the eighth booster brought to you by Pfizer.

00:28:57.000 Just taking them out.

00:28:59.000 It's like the new guillotine.

00:29:01.000 Well, I mean, if you have a, if, if she did undergo surgery because she has like a disease of some type that that required it, and she was boostered, boosted multiple times, it would put her at significant risk.

00:29:16.000 An autoimmune disease?

00:29:17.000 If she has an autoimmune disease?

00:29:18.000 I mean, you should not take the MRNA.

00:29:20.000 A fine shot if you have the autoimmune disease.

00:29:22.000 A final kind of thought-crimey issue is there are, all kidding from me aside, there are like quite a few accounts on Twitter and such that are, I guess, conservative coded that have just fully leaped into the, you know, Kate Middleton's dead, body double.

00:29:40.000 The British deep state took her out.

00:29:43.000 And I guess it is worth asking, is this a problem that we have on the right?

00:29:47.000 Like, do we have too many people who believe weird stuff?

00:29:51.000 We've just been lied to so much that it is now our, it is our default setting, right, Jack?

00:29:57.000 Can you explain?

00:29:59.000 Well, when you've been lied to so many times and you're used to sort of being in this frame that the media is always lying to you, that the government and specifically the government's always lying to you or, you know, government associated media in many of these cases, that you sort of develop this, you know, I guess you could call it a habit.

00:30:20.000 I guess you call it maybe a process or a frame that you're always sort of looking for the angle on everything.

00:30:26.000 And you're always your first, your, your prior assumption is going to be that, you know, that these people are lying to you.

00:30:34.000 Personally, you know, I'm, you know, I would look at it and say, you know, I think that this is a case where the British media has, you know, obviously anything with the royal family is going to be huge fodder in British media.

00:30:48.000 I mean, they just love any kind of scandal with the royals.

00:30:51.000 But I've also, I would also point out that this is the first time in a long time that there's been a scandal with Kate and William because for years prior to this, it's been all about Harry and Megan Markle.

00:31:04.000 And, you know, Nigel Farage even asked Trump if he would consider deporting Prince Harry over.

00:31:10.000 I guess, I guess, I guess, I think it had to do with drug use.

00:31:13.000 And then he, you know, he lied on his visa application because in his book, he talks about using heroin around the time that he was applying for his U.S. visa and all this.

00:31:22.000 And so he could have lied.

00:31:23.000 And so Trump kind of says, et cetera, that maybe they, you know, they wanted to kind of like achieve some parody with, you know, with Megan and Harry and say, ah, we've gone on them a little bit too much.

00:31:34.000 And, you know, here's Kate and Willie, and we've got to dirty them up a little bit.

00:31:38.000 So let's go in on this.

00:31:40.000 And of course, you know, that fits with the, you know, the sort of woke slant that we've seen from, you know, the BBC going in and, you know, race swapping like all of British history. 0.96

00:31:50.000 And, you know, Netflix doing the exact same thing with a lot of these historical shows that are set in the UK.

00:31:56.000 So it's like, hey, what if we get rid of Kate as the queen?

00:32:01.000 Does that mean that Megan could maybe be the queen and that'll be like the next phase of it?

00:32:05.000 I don't know.

00:32:05.000 Just kind of seems like something they would want to be able to do.

00:32:08.000 So let's go through the most likelihood of what this actually is.

00:32:11.000 Okay, I think we could probably do top six.

00:32:15.000 How about so? 1.00

00:32:16.000 Number six, least likely is she went in for abdominal surgery and is under the weather and has to recover. 0.97

00:32:22.000 That's boring.

00:32:22.000 And we live in Donald Trump's earth, which means the most why wouldn't they just say that if that was the case?

00:32:27.000 They have in fact just said that, but Charlie, that's the boring answer.

00:32:30.000 That's not exciting.

00:32:32.000 So therefore, it's not true.

00:32:33.000 We live in Donald Trump's world.

00:32:34.000 The most interesting thing is more likely to be true.

00:32:37.000 So then I bet for me.

00:32:39.000 This is an alternate timeline that we're living in.

00:32:41.000 For number five, I'd say the number five most possible is she's been arrested for murder.

00:32:50.000 They have found out she took out, she's the queen. 0.60

00:32:53.000 She's currently at Gitmo.

00:32:54.000 She, yeah, she's been arrested, possibly, might be executed at Gitmo. 0.98

00:32:58.000 Are we real raw royal ladies? 1.00

00:33:01.000 Real Raw Royals.

00:33:03.000 Number four is all the rumor, you know, the affair, divorce stuff.

00:33:07.000 You know, I could buy that being true.

00:33:10.000 You know, like, and then maybe number three is: have we considered, you know, they say it's an abdominal surgery, but what if it's a little bit lower if you catch my Blake?

00:33:23.000 No.

00:33:23.000 Blake, no.

00:33:26.000 We have to, we have to entertain the possibility that that surgery has a long recovery time and would keep you away from the public eye.

00:33:33.000 I can say no more. 0.87

00:33:34.000 The princess of England would be having the opposite surgery as the first lady of France in that situation. 0.98

00:33:43.000 Or the former first lady of America. 1.00

00:33:48.000 Barbara Bush.

00:33:48.000 Hillary Clinton?

00:33:51.000 I don't know what surgery Barbara said. 0.81

00:33:53.000 I can't remember what option was.

00:33:55.000 Obviously, the most likely result is, of course, that she, you know, she was, she was killed by William and he should be in jail and he's going to get away with it because the deep state lets its actors get away with whatever they want.

00:34:08.000 And that's the tragedy here.

00:34:09.000 That's why we threw off the British in the 1700s because they wrote in the Declaration, they said, we hold these truths to be self-evident, that the British royals kill their wives and replace them with body doubles.

00:34:23.000 And so we're going to get rid of that.

00:34:25.000 That's what they said in the Declaration of Independence.

00:34:27.000 And if you disagree with the Declaration of Independence, that's illegal.

00:34:32.000 You'll go to jail.

00:34:33.000 Okay, what do we have next?

00:34:34.000 Speaking of revolution and speaking of great taste, we're going to a place where they know what tastes great and it's people.

00:34:41.000 Jack, let's talk about Haiti.

00:34:45.000 Well, Haiti, you know, so much to say, so much deliciousness to talk about there.

00:34:53.000 Now, fortunately, Thought Crime comes out on Thursday, Fridays, and Lent.

00:34:57.000 As you know, I can't eat meat.

00:34:59.000 So I'm very glad that we're talking about Haiti on a Thursday.

00:35:04.000 So do you want to go deeper, Jack, into that?

00:35:08.000 Or because not everyone knows that They're changing the Big Mac in Puerto Prince.

00:35:19.000 They're changing them.

00:35:20.000 Okay, so here's what's going on.

00:35:22.000 So a lot of people have probably heard this by now.

00:35:25.000 People have, you know, for anyone who hasn't, you know, there's basically a complete, and there has been a complete lack of government in Haiti for about three years since the president was summarily assassinated pretty early on in the Biden administration.

00:35:40.000 And so they had this sort of new warlord/slash provisional president kind of thing that no one had ever actually elected or voted for.

00:35:49.000 And he had been quasi-in power for a couple of years.

00:35:53.000 Yeah, he's now been deposed by the cannibal gangs who are running amok all over Puerto Prince, Haiti's capital. 0.85

00:36:02.000 That government has completely fallen.

00:36:04.000 He's now stepped down.

00:36:07.000 The president stepped down.

00:36:08.000 The prime minister has stepped down.

00:36:10.000 I'm not entirely sure how many have fled the country at this point.

00:36:14.000 But what's really amazing about Haiti, and we actually write this in, because all this was going on, we decided to throw this into Unhumans in the book, and we did a whole section on it because a lot of people don't understand how Haiti became the way it is.

00:36:30.000 But a lot of people, and I don't know if we have the map handy of the island of Hispaniola, as the entire island is called, is that Haiti shares half of its island with the country of Dominican Republic.

00:36:41.000 Dominican Republic was the Spanish colony.

00:36:45.000 Haiti was the French colony.

00:36:46.000 The difference being between the two is that during the French Revolution, the slaves/slash former slaves of Haiti decided to rise up and essentially commit genocide against all the French people that lived on their half of the island, slaughter all of them, the women, the screaming children, specifically along racial lines.

00:37:11.000 Even by the way, after the revolutionary government, Blake and I discussed this, revolutionary government had freed the slaves, didn't matter, kill all the French anyway. 0.66

00:37:21.000 So they did that.

00:37:22.000 And I mean, you can just, it's amazing that this, this is, this is a distinction that can now be seen from outer space, this borderline, because you have one country that over 200 years ago, 220 years ago, was founded in this sort of quasi-proto-Marxoid slave revolt.

00:37:45.000 And then another country, which was founded by, you know, a serious country, Spanish Empire later gained its independence, fought many wars against Haiti.

00:37:53.000 And you can see one is like a lush tropical resort and the other is a complete wasteland filled with cannibal gangs.

00:37:59.000 And it is, it's important to note that Haiti is legitimately infested with demonic voodoo. 0.98

00:38:05.000 Can you talk about this, Blake?

00:38:07.000 Yeah, well, so I'm like weirdly more sympathetic in the Western hemisphere.

00:38:13.000 Say that again, Jack.

00:38:16.000 Well, so voodoo, you know, it's really where Haiti is where voodoo comes from in the Western hemisphere.

00:38:23.000 So it's brought from a lot of much more ancient tribal African practices that were brought along, you know, again, you know, force, forcefully brought to the Caribbean, but really was Haiti where voodoo made itself, you know, planted its flag in the Western world, in the Western hemisphere.

00:38:44.000 You see this spread throughout the other islands.

00:38:46.000 You see, you know, these types of practices and a lot of like blending of West African traditions with Christianity and Catholicism.

00:38:55.000 Again, Spanish-French empires, you get Catholicism there.

00:38:58.000 And they come up with these very bizarre, very dark, demonic, occult practices that are going on, in many cases, completely subverting Christianity and Christian symbols for use in these practices.

00:39:13.000 And so you'll have cases where the killing and the ritual killing and the ritual and ingestion of flesh, let's just say it, ingestion of flesh, is done as part of these rituals.

00:39:25.000 In fact, during the slave revolt or one of the early revolts going on back in 1804, one of the leaders of this was himself a shaman of sorts, a witchcraft shaman of sorts, and they were sacrificed animals, pass around the cup of blood for everyone to take part in to kind of give them the blood rage, and then they would go off and start killing all of the plantation owners.

00:39:54.000 I mean, what's crazy with voodoo is it's very much a belief with like a where the supernatural has a lot of impact on your life.

00:40:05.000 So they very much believe in the power of magic, that you can put curses on people, that you can cast spells on people.

00:40:12.000 And, you know, the famous voodoo doll is just sort of a fictional trope version of this.

00:40:16.000 I don't know if they specifically do it that way, but the general idea that someone can put a curse on you, and there's all sorts of people who have magic.

00:40:23.000 So there's witches everywhere. 0.97

00:40:25.000 So there's a voodoo idea that like women can turn into these sort of like animals and like suck your blood at night. 0.86

00:40:32.000 Or there's like another cult where people can turn into dogs. 0.96

00:40:35.000 And of course, zombies.

00:40:37.000 The word zombie comes from voodoo.

00:40:38.000 Yeah, so zombieism is really from this entire culture.

00:40:42.000 Yeah.

00:40:42.000 This is where it comes from.

00:40:43.000 And in their version of it, it's more like they can kind of enslave a person, like they can kind of kill you, but control your body.

00:40:49.000 And I believe, I don't have it in front of me, but I think there's cases where the power of suggestion is so strong.

00:40:55.000 Like people have basically become zombies because they believe that they are a zombie and it's so powerful on it.

00:41:02.000 But the big picture here, of course, is there's all this trouble in Haiti.

00:41:06.000 Yet again, if you, if you know, if you're 30 years old, this is probably about the eighth or ninth time there's been some like, oh, massive crisis in Haiti and the government's a mess and there's gangs in the streets and they're doing all of this stuff and there's never any progress.

00:41:21.000 And it circles back around to a discussion we've had on here before.

00:41:25.000 What if like the big picture thought crime here is should somebody colonize Haiti, basically?

00:41:32.000 Why would you want that?

00:41:34.000 There's really no reason to do it.

00:41:36.000 I think the only reason I could colonize Greenland.

00:41:38.000 That would be a great idea.

00:41:39.000 I'm fully in favor of tons of land.

00:41:42.000 Okay.

00:41:43.000 Maybe it's largely literally.

00:41:45.000 What if you said like China can colonize Haiti?

00:41:49.000 I think it would be terrific.

00:41:51.000 I think that they should have to try to figure out Haiti. 1.00

00:41:54.000 Because there's sort of this, it gets at, I think, the flaws or the shortcomings of, if you want to call it our global neoliberal order post-Cold War, where what we do is we very much perpetuate a system that is clearly essentially hopeless.

00:42:10.000 Haiti's government is a complete calamitous disaster.

00:42:14.000 And it is not serving the people of Haiti. 0.79

00:42:16.000 And it's not serving any of their neighbors for us to prop up what is clearly a disaster where, oh, just an armed mercenary gang can murder your president.

00:42:25.000 And they literally can't even hold elections anymore.

00:42:28.000 It's so bad we can't even tell, are they canceling elections because they just want to be dictators?

00:42:33.000 Or are they canceling elections because they are not even capable of organizing a vote by the public?

00:42:39.000 That is the level of state failure that we are at.

00:42:42.000 And in the past, a thousand years ago, it was not possible to have a failed state like this because if you were that much of a disaster, your neighbors came in and just took you over.

00:42:51.000 And now instead, what we do is we have the international community and we have the United Nations and we have humanitarian missions and we're basically just dumping food and medical supplies into this anarchic, you know, disaster state.

00:43:07.000 I don't know if it's fixable.

00:43:08.000 And the reason is that I think, first of all, I think part of the country is literally under a spiritual oppression.

00:43:13.000 I've talked to missionaries and missionaries that have gone there and they say they've seen the darkest stuff that a human being can see.

00:43:20.000 In fact, I know people that have come that went to Haiti passively as like agnostic atheists and they came back searching for Jesus because they saw like legit demonic activity.

00:43:30.000 Whoa, do they say any more?

00:43:33.000 Yeah, there was one guy who saw somebody who literally didn't sleep for two weeks and would just like run, literally run around and not sleep for two weeks, like ran through the whole island with like supernatural type capacity.

00:43:48.000 There are claims that people have seen like quasi-levitation stuff, like almost head spinning type stuff.

00:43:57.000 And then Andrew says this was very common.

00:44:00.000 Yeah.

00:44:00.000 Here's one that when Andrew was in Haiti, there were common stories about people turning into cats at night, which I don't know.

00:44:07.000 They all knew someone that turned into cats.

00:44:09.000 Again, I'm not sure about that.

00:44:11.000 I haven't heard that.

00:44:12.000 But this like supernatural energy or just also the stuff where, you know, you look in the Hollywood films where someone like looks possessed, right?

00:44:21.000 Imagine like entire towns that look that way.

00:44:26.000 Where it's just, they, they, and there's a lot of churches there too, and it's growing.

00:44:26.000 Yeah.

00:44:31.000 But like Haitian voodoo culture is legit. 0.98

00:44:33.000 Like one out of three people in Haiti participate and they sacrifice animals and they do like pagan blood rituals. 0.97

00:44:43.000 So, yeah.

00:44:44.000 It doesn't seem to have worked out for them.

00:44:47.000 No, I mean, yeah, look, pagan, show me a pagan culture that sustainably can survive.

00:44:52.000 And, you know, there's a reason why the Aztecs are no longer around.

00:44:57.000 That's a good point.

00:44:58.000 Can India survive? 0.99

00:44:59.000 We'll see.

00:45:00.000 And or is India just on its is it is it exhausting the jet fuel of you know English colonial culture?

00:45:06.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:45:07.000 That's a thought crime.

00:45:08.000 I'm just asking.

00:45:09.000 Was India great before it got colonized?

00:45:11.000 Yeah, but they have a caste system. 0.90

00:45:13.000 They have a terrible caste system. 0.99

00:45:14.000 I mean, but their caste system is what keeps them afloat.

00:45:17.000 No, the word, no, what's crazy is what's going to, what is at risk of destroying India is they got one of the most toxic intellectual imports from the West, which is affirmative action. 0.99

00:45:25.000 And they do it by caste. 0.61

00:45:27.000 And it's a colossal disaster. 0.99

00:45:29.000 They're one of the only countries that does affirmative action that is as stupid and bizarre as the way we do it in America, where if you're like in one of the four kind of normal castes, you're discriminated against systemically. 0.99

00:45:41.000 And instead, it's the like tribes and other backward castes, I think is what they call them. 1.00

00:45:46.000 Yeah, but that's the best management for the lifestyle of what you guys are talking about, where it's like essentially a free-for-all society that exists, which is, I mean, that's why it's basically plugging the dam on that that allows that to exist.

00:46:04.000 Haiti doesn't have it. 0.99

00:46:05.000 I have a heart for the people of Haiti.

00:46:06.000 And I visited the Caribbean a fair amount.

00:46:08.000 You don't have to live like that.

00:46:09.000 I mean, there are islands that enter the second world and they're not totally anarchy and they're poor, but they have like resorts and Barbados, for example, Turks and the Caribbean.

00:46:20.000 I mean, Dominican Republic came in.

00:46:22.000 Dominican Republic is a lot like Haiti, same island, and it is literally, I think, more than 15 times richer than Haiti.

00:46:30.000 Now, I do want to push back on one thing, which is Andrew and others are pointing out, you know, they revolted too early.

00:46:36.000 And I will say, what we really need to blame here, and it's important to give the right blame to these people because they're to blame for a lot of things, is the French. 1.00

00:46:45.000 French are bad. 1.00

00:46:46.000 Always the French and the Germans. 1.00

00:46:48.000 They're perfectly fine antagonists in all things.

00:46:51.000 And, you know, they gave us all this adultery stuff that's causing all the problems, allegedly, maybe in the royal family.

00:46:51.000 Yes, exactly.

00:46:57.000 And they gave us, they gave us Haiti.

00:47:00.000 And the reason I say they gave us Haiti is Haiti, as far as you know, we get all of our horror porn about slavery in the U.S. before the Civil War, you know, 12 years of slave stuff, you know, whipping people.

00:47:13.000 Like Haiti run by the French was not like the antebellum South.

00:47:17.000 Haiti was run like a Nazi death camp.

00:47:20.000 It was sugar plantations.

00:47:22.000 And sugar plantations in the 1700s were so terrible that you could not have replacement level population.

00:47:31.000 It was constant decrease.

00:47:32.000 So what you'd do is you'd constantly ship in slaves from Africa. 0.81

00:47:38.000 It was estimated that a field hand in a Haitian sugar plantation had a life expectancy of about four years, like from when they start working in there.

00:47:47.000 And so that is why they revolted and killed everybody.

00:47:50.000 It wasn't merely, you know, we want to be free.

00:47:53.000 It was straight up: if we don't do this, odds are all of us will be dead in five years because of how horrifying this is.

00:48:01.000 And so I just, I do want to give that concession that Haiti is super messed up, but much of this is downstream of when you have a catastrophically horrible way of running your country, such as anything set up by the French, these are the end results you get. 1.00

00:48:17.000 And we still feel the ramifications 200 years later.

00:48:20.000 And so we can even draw the comparison there between Haiti and Britain, where Britain has an orderly emancipation process for its colonies and the slaves in those colonies.

00:48:31.000 And the result is that anything that's still a British colony today is pretty good.

00:48:36.000 Any place that was a British colony is doing a lot better than anywhere that was a French colony. 0.67

00:48:41.000 What are the French colonies?

00:48:43.000 Niger, other parts of West Africa, Ivory Coast, torn by Civil War frequently, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia.

00:48:51.000 And then it's like British colonies.

00:48:53.000 Hong Kong, India, Barbados, Gibraltar.

00:48:58.000 Barbados is amazing.

00:48:59.000 You know, George Washington went down to Barbados.

00:49:00.000 He did.

00:49:01.000 That's your fun fact of the day.

00:49:02.000 And that's also where Alexander Hamilton was from, right?

00:49:06.000 It might have been Hamilton.

00:49:07.000 One of them went all the way down to Barbados.

00:49:08.000 Well, Hamilton, I believe, was born there, and then he moved to the U.S.

00:49:11.000 And that's why we got that musical where everyone is an immigrant and they rap and stuff.

00:49:16.000 That's right.

00:49:17.000 No, yeah, George Washington's journey to Barbados, mountvernon.com.org.

00:49:20.000 George Washington visited Barbados, proved to be a turning point in his life, a dividing line between a turning point, USA.

00:49:26.000 That's right.

00:49:26.000 And you know who's also from Barbados?

00:49:28.000 Rihanna.

00:49:29.000 Oh, well, so here's your fun fact.

00:49:32.000 Next topic.

00:49:33.000 So our next topic.

00:49:34.000 Oh, wow, you just dropped me with me.

00:49:35.000 So the next topic actually relates a lot to what we just mentioned about India.

00:49:39.000 So we have a tweet from the Mayo Clinic.

00:49:43.000 Or rather, it's from Libs of TikTok. 0.85

00:49:45.000 Do we have it?

00:49:46.000 I just didn't have it ready to go.

00:49:48.000 So let's get me the link here.

00:49:49.000 But the Mayo Clinic posted this, okay, number 68.

00:49:53.000 They posted a job thing here.

00:49:56.000 Let me just get to it.

00:49:57.000 As you get to it, can I give some background?

00:49:59.000 So anyone who has, let's say, a serious medical problem within the kind of healthcare world, Mayo is considered to be the gold standard.

00:49:59.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:50:08.000 Right.

00:50:09.000 And it's from Rochester, Minnesota.

00:50:11.000 It was founded by, I believe, the Mayo brothers.

00:50:14.000 It was like Will and Charlie, if I'm not mistaken.

00:50:17.000 And they started this in Rochester, Minnesota, and they have a plant here.

00:50:20.000 They have a plant campus, two of them here in the valley.

00:50:24.000 They have one in Fountain Hills and one in Scottsdale.

00:50:27.000 They have one in Jacksonville, Florida.

00:50:30.000 And it's considered to be the best research.

00:50:31.000 And to give you an idea, they will do $19 billion in revenue this year.

00:50:38.000 I'm more of a butter guy myself.

00:50:40.000 $16 billion in revenue.

00:50:42.000 So they're considered the highest quality of American healthcare.

00:50:44.000 Keep going.

00:50:45.000 So we have it now.

00:50:46.000 So this is a job posting.

00:50:49.000 I believe actually here in Phoenix, although it's affiliated with the Mayo Clinic, this is for a licensed practical nurse in ambulatory cardiology.

00:50:57.000 Cardiology is your heart.

00:50:58.000 This is this is important medicine.

00:50:59.000 The number one killer of Americans over the age of 30 is heart disease.

00:51:03.000 Heart disease, heart problems.

00:51:05.000 And so this is a job description by a group, Jobs for Humanity.

00:51:09.000 Jobs for Humanity is partnering with Mayo Clinic to build an inclusive and just employment ecosystem.

00:51:16.000 Ecosystem, always a word to run away from very quickly these days.

00:51:20.000 Therefore, we prioritize individuals coming from the following communities.

00:51:24.000 Prepare yourself.

00:51:26.000 Refugee, neurodivergent, that means autistic or mentally ill, single parent, blind or low vision, deaf or hard of hearing, black, Hispanic, Asian, military veteran, the elderly, the LGBTQ, and this is the best part: justice-impacted individuals. 1.00

00:51:46.000 What is a justice-impacted individual?

00:51:49.000 It is, yes, but we don't use those terms anymore.

00:51:52.000 They're impacted by the justice system.

00:51:55.000 They were just living their lives. 0.93

00:51:57.000 They were going around, you know, they were just raping people. 0.72

00:51:59.000 Living their life, living their life.

00:52:01.000 And then the justice system just comes on and impacts people.

00:52:03.000 Anyone can get impacted by the justice system.

00:52:07.000 Just they're impacting everyone.

00:52:09.000 We have entire neighborhoods where there's just impacting going on way more often.

00:52:13.000 And we can't appreciate that from our position of privilege.

00:52:16.000 That we can't appreciate what it's like to be impacted by the justice system, Charlie.

00:52:23.000 This is one of the scarier trends.

00:52:24.000 If Mayo Clinic is now hiring, so they're hiring people just because they're autistic, blind or low vision.

00:52:32.000 This is for an ambulatory cardiology.

00:52:34.000 So I would imagine this is somebody who is riding along in an ambulance and/or like the first response of somebody has a heart attack and they're blind.

00:52:44.000 So you got someone who can't see that's going to try to read an EKG.

00:52:48.000 If you can't see, how on earth can you take somebody's blood pressure?

00:52:52.000 I'm sorry.

00:52:55.000 I mean, if you don't know if you're a boy or a girl, how would you want somebody working on you?

00:53:00.000 That's if you're not sure.

00:53:01.000 This happened on basic biology as a doctor.

00:53:04.000 Or hard of hearing.

00:53:05.000 Sir, what's your medical history?

00:53:07.000 I have a stent in my heart.

00:53:08.000 What?

00:53:09.000 What'd you say?

00:53:11.000 I have a.

00:53:11.000 I can't hear.

00:53:12.000 You got to speak louder.

00:53:18.000 I mean, this is.

00:53:20.000 So this, this, um, no, there's a story in the UK a couple of months ago.

00:53:24.000 I just pulled it up here where it's, you know, Somerset, they call them care homes, it's nursing homes here.

00:53:31.000 There was a 91-year-old woman who fell down the stairs and then was trapped like under a stair lift.

00:53:39.000 And they had these like, um, these basically gypsies were running the work, were working there, these, you know, you know, asylum seekers or whatever they call them over there. 0.68

00:53:52.000 And they didn't have to pass what they call the secure English language test, which is supposed to be used for a foreign worker.

00:54:01.000 And so when they called 999, which is their equivalent of the 911 of 911, they could, the operators and so the EMTs, and this is what Charlie was getting at, that were, that took the call, couldn't understand what they were saying, other than that, obviously they could tell where they were coming from because of caller ID, so they knew it was probably something with an elderly person.

00:54:23.000 They didn't know how to classify it.

00:54:25.000 They didn't know the condition of the person.

00:54:27.000 They didn't know what was going on because they couldn't speak English.

00:54:31.000 So now imagine you're in a situation like that, and you're now dealing with people that are supposed to be caring for you or your elderly loved ones.

00:54:40.000 And there's an emergency situation.

00:54:42.000 And now the people who are supposed to be making the emergency call can't speak English.

00:54:47.000 Operators can't understand what's going on, don't understand the severity.

00:54:51.000 By the time they did actually show up, the woman was already dead.

00:54:55.000 And guess what?

00:54:56.000 This is going to keep happening more and more.

00:54:57.000 And remember, the explanation in the UK and every other country for why you need basically open borders is they'll do these healthcare jobs that we need to keep using.

00:55:06.000 By the way, it isn't jobs that Americans will do.

00:55:08.000 We have plenty of Americans that are studying.

00:55:10.000 It pays pretty well.

00:55:12.000 There's plenty of Americans that want to go into healthcare.

00:55:15.000 But again, this is the top.

00:55:16.000 This is the creme de la creme.

00:55:17.000 No, Mayo Clinic.

00:55:18.000 Charlie, it is Charlie.

00:55:19.000 It's not that plenty of.

00:55:21.000 I mean, we have jobs.

00:55:24.000 So this is the crazy part of the whole thing.

00:55:28.000 And I'll kind of explain it just real briefly.

00:55:31.000 Our boards of regents, the boards that manage our universities, are instituting DEI culture that limits our ability to train people to become nurses, to become doctors, which leads to a doctor shortage, which is what we have right now in most places, which is now leading full circle to let's put autistic people in and people with mental illness and other things, in addition to blind, deaf, 0.80

00:56:00.000 like everything else that we're saying, to fill jobs because these same policies limited the ability for people to get into train in the first place.

00:56:09.000 So this is full circle, intentional community and society destructive policies.

00:56:15.000 Well, so that gets at it.

00:56:16.000 I think this sort of thing from Mayo Clinic, it's a lot like the pilots thing, where it really shows you how deep the belief is here.

00:56:25.000 Because this is, again, this is a life or death decision.

00:56:29.000 And medical errors killed.

00:56:31.000 I'm going to pick on the hard of hearing one.

00:56:33.000 Like all the race stuff aside, if you're in a high intensity thing and you can't hear a patient, what is the argument for that?

00:56:42.000 Yeah, but what about autism?

00:56:42.000 Diversity?

00:56:44.000 Remember, autism?

00:56:45.000 Like, I'm not treating you.

00:56:46.000 Why?

00:56:47.000 I don't like the way you look.

00:56:48.000 That's a thought crime already.

00:56:50.000 Like, the whole deaf community thing is pretty wild. 1.00

00:56:53.000 They kind of view themselves as their own race, like the deaf race. 1.00

00:56:58.000 Are you serious?

00:56:59.000 Yeah.

00:56:59.000 Oh, this is a whole rabbit hole you can go down.

00:57:02.000 There are deaf parents who have wanted to try to like engineer it so their kid will also be deaf.

00:57:09.000 Well, you can soft engineer it by if a kid doesn't hear people speaking at home.

00:57:14.000 So you're supposed to in the like standbook of non-abuse, basically in some places in the world, it's abuse if a deaf parent doesn't have time a day to have their kid go to hear people talk.

00:57:25.000 Yeah, well, some of these people, they view deaf as a culture, basically.

00:57:29.000 And so they want their child to be part of the culture.

00:57:31.000 So they want the child to also be deaf.

00:57:34.000 It's, it's a whole rabbit hole.

00:57:36.000 But what I was to circle back, the big thing here is, again, medical errors kill thousands of people.

00:57:44.000 And this could easily be even a public figure.

00:57:46.000 Like, yeah, they can have their own hospitals, but for the most part, most people are working with the same type of hospitals that we all are, these big ones.

00:57:53.000 And the Mayo Clinic is an elite clinic.

00:57:55.000 And so if they're hiring based on these bizarre diversity quotas, get in the deaf, get in the justice impacted, they really are just true believers in this cult. 0.80

00:58:06.000 And that's really to me, that's a lot scarier than, oh, this is their plan to use dialectical Marxism to undermine the West or whatever. 0.99

00:58:15.000 No, they just, they literally just believe this crap. 0.97

00:58:19.000 And we have a clip if it's okay to play it. 0.99

00:58:22.000 It's longer.

00:58:22.000 We'll end with this.

00:58:23.000 But Elon, Elon Musk reacted to the tweet that we mentioned, by the way.

00:58:27.000 He was appalled.

00:58:28.000 Just the other day, he was talking with Don Laman in the now employee.

00:58:34.000 Now not getting a contract with Twitter, but it was because of this exchange where they talk about lowering standards for doctors.

00:58:39.000 And Don Laman just literally doesn't get it.

00:58:41.000 Let's play it.

00:58:43.000 If we lower the status for what it takes to become a doctor.

00:58:46.000 If we lower the standards, but do you believe people are dying because the standards are being lowered?

00:58:51.000 I don't have that as yet an issue, but it could become an issue.

00:58:55.000 But the actual evidence in history shows the exact opposite if you look at how minorities are treated by the medical system.

00:59:02.000 Most doctors, most doctors now are white, and there are lots of mistakes in medicine.

00:59:08.000 So you're saying that my doctors have bad medical care?

00:59:14.000 I'm trying to understand your logic here when it comes to DEI because there's no actual evidence of what you're saying.

00:59:19.000 I think that particular thing was referring to surgeons.

00:59:21.000 Let's say a surgeon is asked to, a surgeon in training is asked to do a series of operations under the supervision of a senior surgeon, and they get a bunch of those operations wrong.

00:59:35.000 If that happens, and yet they are still approved to be a surgeon, the probability that someone will die, I think, at some point is high.

00:59:42.000 Okay, I understand that, but that's a hypothetical.

00:59:44.000 That doesn't mean it's happening.

00:59:46.000 I didn't say it's happening.

00:59:49.000 You didn't say it was happening.

00:59:50.000 I said it will.

00:59:52.000 I said, if we lower status, people will die.

00:59:58.000 So are you saying that if the majority of doctors are white, are you saying that and there are still these inequities, right?

01:00:04.000 And people still, there's still mistakes.

01:00:06.000 Are you blaming DEI for that? 1.00

01:00:09.000 No, I'm very stupid argument. 0.96

01:00:11.000 Are you basically saying that if we lower standards for what it takes to become a board-certified surgeon or an oncologist or something where the kind of disease we're talking about, if you make a mistake, causes someone to die, then more people will die than if we don't lower the standards? 0.98

01:00:32.000 Well, we should not lower the standards.

01:00:33.000 But why do you think they're lowering the standards for minority doctors or women doctors?

01:00:37.000 Of course they are.

01:00:40.000 That's what that article suggested, yes.

01:00:43.000 At Duke University.

01:00:44.000 Okay.

01:00:45.000 It's like Elon just did a great job, though. 0.98

01:00:47.000 But I think Elon is also just like, he hasn't been around someone this dumb for a long time. 0.97

01:00:53.000 Elon can't believe it. 0.99

01:00:54.000 You know, Elon was like, if you work for me, I'd fire you.

01:00:57.000 Oh, wait.

01:00:59.000 You work for me.

01:01:02.000 Right.

01:01:03.000 That was what was going on with Elon's computer metrics.

01:01:06.000 He's like, well, if you were a Tesla engineer, I would fire.

01:01:09.000 Oh.

01:01:10.000 Oh, wait.

01:01:12.000 I'm in entertainment.

01:01:13.000 I know.

01:01:15.000 Then all of a sudden, Don's like, I got fired.

01:01:17.000 Why?

01:01:18.000 No, no. 1.00

01:01:19.000 Because I was so stupid. 1.00

01:01:20.000 That's not fair. 1.00

01:01:22.000 The most priceless part of that whole issue.

01:01:25.000 Sorry, go ahead, Jeff.

01:01:26.000 No, I was going to say, this could be the new standard.

01:01:28.000 What if we applied this to like all media?

01:01:29.000 That there would basically be, like, if you, if you said something that was just too low IQ without, you know, without it being satire or a joke in any way, that you were just gone. 0.99

01:01:40.000 Like, if we just stopped having all of these stupid people on TV and media only. 0.96

01:01:44.000 We'd have to go and fire Mara Gay even years later because of the whole Bloomberg thing, where she thought that Bloomberg could give everyone in America a million dollars. 0.99

01:01:54.000 I'm always fond of that one.

01:01:55.000 Yeah, that's classic.

01:01:56.000 I love that one.

01:01:57.000 We got to run.

01:01:58.000 Tyler's got to go train some ballot chasers.

01:02:00.000 I got to go raise some money.

01:02:01.000 Blake, you have to go research 13th century Turkish literature.

01:02:06.000 Jack, go make sure your promo is good.

01:02:08.000 God bless, guys.

01:02:09.000 Keep committing thought crimes.

01:02:10.000 Talk to you soon.

01:02:13.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

01:02:14.000 Email us as always freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:02:17.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - March 23, 2024

THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 37 — "Justice-Impacted" Nurses? Re-Colonize Haiti? Missing Kate Middleton?

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