The Charlie Kirk Show - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 38 — "Christ Is King" Anti-Semitic? Diddy Did It? Andrew Huberman Hitpiece?

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, Thought Crime Saturday.

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00:00:05.000 Christ is King.

00:00:06.000 What a perfect thought crime topic for Easter.

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00:01:41.000 Okay, everybody, happy Holy Week.

00:01:45.000 We are here for Thought Crime.

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00:01:56.000 Yeah, yeah, that's probably not the best thing to make.

00:01:58.000 It is Maundy Thursday, as we were discussing.

00:02:01.000 Why is that Thursday?

00:02:02.000 That's the whole point of the week.

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00:02:12.000 Blake, Bud Light, and Boeing Blake.

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00:02:18.000 And Jack, it is corrected.

00:02:21.000 It is Maundy Thursday.

00:02:22.000 Is that right?

00:02:24.000 No, it's Maundy Thursday because it feels like a Monday.

00:02:28.000 It is the beginning of the passion.

00:02:31.000 Is Thursday coming into Friday?

00:02:33.000 So that is a perfect segue to our first topic, which has taken the internet by storm.

00:02:41.000 And I want Jack actually to introduce this topic.

00:02:43.000 I usually have Blake do it because Jack, you have been posting this, and I think I posted it too a lot because I believe it fundamentally.

00:02:50.000 And it involves Candace Owens, it involves charges of anti-Semitism.

00:02:55.000 It involves the Daily Wire.

00:02:57.000 It involves Andrew Clavin.

00:02:58.000 It involves Easter.

00:03:00.000 It involves thought crime.

00:03:02.000 Yes.

00:03:03.000 I mean, it is.

00:03:04.000 It is one of the more interconnected topics we've ever covered on thought crime.

00:03:09.000 Jack, who is king?

00:03:12.000 Jesus Christ.

00:03:14.000 Why?

00:03:15.000 Jesus Christ.

00:03:16.000 Why is that statement all of a sudden popping off on the internet?

00:03:21.000 Well, so Christ is King is a statement that it's popping off right now because there's been a controversy attached to it regarding our, I think, all of our mutual friend Candace Owens, who's recently departed from the Daily Wire.

00:03:39.000 And we were not told that this was what predicated her leaving.

00:03:46.000 But then, of course, as you mentioned, some of her former colleagues have come forward and they have essentially presented this and forwarded this as the reason for her leaving, her declaring Christ as king, but then also equating that with charges of anti-Semitism.

00:04:04.000 Now, a lot of this comes along because of this argument that you'll hear people make saying that, well, if you're Christian, you know, aren't we called to catechize the world?

00:04:17.000 Aren't we called to go forward and spread the good news?

00:04:20.000 Now, at Catholic Mass, that is the last thing we are told at the very end of the Mass to go forth, specifically, to go forth.

00:04:30.000 And I've always kind of viewed that as a mission statement.

00:04:34.000 You're supposed to go forth and go and do that.

00:04:36.000 But there are other people who will say that it is intolerant or anti-Semitic because, of course, the Jews do not accept Jesus as the Messiah.

00:04:48.000 Now, if you're a Christian, this obviously is going to come into some tension.

00:04:52.000 So you could on one way, on one hand, deal with that by saying, well, we pray for Jews to accept Christ.

00:04:59.000 Maybe if you know somebody, you can talk to them about it if they seem open to it.

00:05:02.000 You know, all the different ways that you can try to have these conversations, live your life in a certain way where people might want to emulate that.

00:05:10.000 And you say, well, it's because I have a Christ-centered life.

00:05:12.000 And then you can use that to sort of open it up.

00:05:14.000 But other people will say that it's actually anti-Semitic because you're not, not only are you not accepting of Jews as the way they are, but instead you're asserting some kind of sovereignty over Judaism.

00:05:27.000 And a lot of this goes back, and Rabbi Shmuly, who was on Alex Jones and a few other shows recently, has been talking about this as well.

00:05:35.000 They'll take it all the way back to the Pharisees.

00:05:37.000 They'll take it back to the execution of Jesus, which, of course, tomorrow is Good Friday is the commemoration of, all the way back when this very question came up.

00:05:47.000 And I want everybody to remember, I want everyone to remember this, that when you look at a depiction of the crucifixion and it says, I-N-R-I at the top of the cross, that stands for Jesus the Nazarene, king of the Jews.

00:06:04.000 I-N-R-I.

00:06:06.000 They did it to mock him.

00:06:07.000 It was not praising.

00:06:09.000 It was, hey, look at this, you know, schlebler.

00:06:11.000 It was written by the Romans.

00:06:13.000 And I believe in the biblical narrative, it actually says that it was written in Latin and Greek in the original.

00:06:19.000 Typically, it was just in the Latin.

00:06:20.000 It's just that they say Jesus, king of the Jews.

00:06:23.000 And then it's that reportedly, I believe the chief priests come to Pilate and they say, you should change it to say, this man said, I am the king of the Jews.

00:06:33.000 And he says, what I have written, I have written, which many bosses have said since.

00:06:37.000 So I saw this whole thing on the screen.

00:06:40.000 Yeah, go ahead, Jack, finish it.

00:06:41.000 I want to get to the point.

00:06:42.000 I just throw out to finish the bookend of that because there's an interesting biblical bookend there because the other time that Jesus is specifically referred to as king is at his birth, but also not by other Jews.

00:06:57.000 If you notice this, it's not Jews that call Jesus king or even king of the Jews at the time.

00:07:03.000 Who is it?

00:07:04.000 Other Gentiles, the Magi. 1.00

00:07:07.000 So it's the Magi in the Nativity who refer to Jesus as king of the Jews.

00:07:12.000 And then it's the Romans all the way at Jesus' death that creating this sort of bookend of him being quote unquote declared king.

00:07:22.000 But of course, as Christ has always said, my kingdom is not of this world.

00:07:25.000 And it is repeated.

00:07:26.000 The most common verse in, I don't want to say, because Revelation is in the Catholic Bible, obviously, but is Revelation, when it's, you know, Jesus is on his throne and his name is written King of Kings, Lord and Lords.

00:07:40.000 That is where really in modern parlance, this idea of Christ kingship comes from.

00:07:44.000 It's also repeated in 2 John and also in Isaiah, which is the most specific prophetic book in the Old Testament that talks about a king of the world to be called Prince of Peace, Everlasting Father, mighty God, wonderful counselor.

00:07:56.000 We repeat those at Christmas time.

00:07:58.000 So I now want to play a piece of tape here, which so Candace Owens out at the Daily Wire, accusations of anti-Semitism, which are not true, by the way.

00:08:06.000 I know Candace.

00:08:07.000 She traveled around the world literally to be with me at the embassy opening in Jerusalem in Israel.

00:08:13.000 She's not an anti-Semite.

00:08:14.000 I've met anti-Semites.

00:08:15.000 It's not her.

00:08:15.000 Does she have heterodox opinions on Israel?

00:08:18.000 Yes, but she is not an anti-Semite. 0.90

00:08:20.000 And people who use that are intellectually sloppy and lazy.

00:08:22.000 I will defend Candace.

00:08:23.000 Happy to dialogue and discourse with people on that. 0.60

00:08:26.000 So she's out at the Daily Wire.

00:08:29.000 She starts posting Christ as King.

00:08:31.000 Is this correct, right, Blake?

00:08:32.000 She has posted it.

00:08:33.000 I don't know if she originally started doing it.

00:08:35.000 And as a, I'll be honest, a surprising response from Andrew Clavin, who I really intellectually respect and support in a lot of different things, he comes out and focuses on this particular thing that Candace posted.

00:08:50.000 And I listened to his Sunday episode and I said, boy, of all the different things to try and say that was anti-Semitic, this is not the one that I would go all in on.

00:09:01.000 Yeah.

00:09:01.000 Right?

00:09:01.000 Just from a, there's other things that Candace has said that I don't believe are anti-Semitic that could have probably been a more comfortable attack vector for the reason that we're going to dismiss her.

00:09:12.000 However, they go all in on this one.

00:09:14.000 Listen to Andrew Clavin, who essentially was, this was, this is as close to a Daily Wire press release as you're going to get.

00:09:22.000 Okay.

00:09:22.000 Play cut 112.

00:09:23.000 Christians have welcomed me with open arms, except this Christ the King, anti-Semitic crowd.

00:09:30.000 Christ is the king, and one day every knee will bow and recognize him because he's not just my king, he's king of the universe.

00:09:37.000 But when you use that phrase to mean that God has abandoned his chosen people, the Jews, through whom he came into this world incarnate, and that he's broken his promises, his covenant with the Jews, you are quoting scripture like Satan does in the Bible. 0.57

00:09:56.000 You are quoting scripture to your purposes, and that to me is specifically wicked.

00:10:03.000 I just'm at a loss.

00:10:06.000 I mean, I love the word.

00:10:08.000 I spend a lot of time in churches, like a lot with a lot of pastors.

00:10:12.000 I can't even get in the same galaxy of believing that saying Christ is king is anti-Semitic. 0.99

00:10:18.000 The only way I can see it is not anti-Semitic, but you could be potentially a jerk if you go up to a Jew and taunt them and say Christ is king. 0.99

00:10:27.000 I guess that could be like mildly uncomfortable for us. 0.98

00:10:29.000 So I think the context this is happening in that set people off is one, a lot of Groyper types have followed the entire Candace Daily Wire drama online. 0.58

00:10:42.000 And there has been a practice with some of these people and those who agree with them where I think they will just like spam it in Twitter replies.

00:10:52.000 So Ben Shapiro tweets something they don't like or Boring tweets something they don't like or Claven there.

00:10:58.000 And they will just all like they will respond, Christ is king, like they're shouting a magic spell at them or something.

00:11:05.000 And in context, I can see people perceiving that as hostile.

00:11:10.000 I don't think I would call it anti-Semitic.

00:11:13.000 I could say it is perhaps not the best type of evangelism to engage in.

00:11:18.000 It is counterproductive in that way.

00:11:19.000 But I just, I, to all of a sudden equate, which is like the greatest horror of the 20th century, which is the Holocaust, like as evil as you get, and to just like all of a sudden introduce a three-word truth statement that all of us believe to say that to say to Christ as king is anti-Semitic. 0.70

00:11:36.000 And so Tyler, you want to chime in here?

00:11:39.000 Want to say, I learned this lesson from someone that's Jewish, uh, who I respect because I didn't realize that this happened.

00:11:48.000 There's actually an entire, and I was trying to find this.

00:11:51.000 I'll see if I can find it.

00:11:52.000 There's like an entire website that has all these different phraseologies that come from typically like really hardcore evangelical crowds.

00:12:04.000 That if you say it, it's anti-Semitic.

00:12:06.000 It's like ADL, or it's like is it the anti-defamation leader?

00:12:10.000 I didn't know this.

00:12:11.000 So, I grew up in a very non-Jewish community.

00:12:13.000 I'm from Arizona.

00:12:14.000 We have no, we have no Jews in Arizona as like a context.

00:12:18.000 We have a lot of Catholic Mexicans, right?

00:12:20.000 We don't have Jews. 1.00

00:12:22.000 So, I don't, I don't know anything about what makes how a Jewish person ticks. 0.91

00:12:28.000 I said something.

00:12:29.000 I'm not even going to say it because I don't want to like put this out into the world again, but I said something that was basically a biblical story and a very common phrase that's used in my religion in my religious talk.

00:12:41.000 And it was told to me immediately that that was an anti-Semitic slur by saying that because it has all this different meaning that Jews had taken out because it's a very common conversation that's had within referencing the Bible.

00:12:56.000 My point is, there's a lot of different phrases like this that the Jewish community has taken to heart, and it seems like it happens.

00:13:06.000 I suppose the end, let's let's pretend the inverses, right?

00:13:09.000 So, if somebody walks around with a sign that says Allah is God and Muhammad is the great prophet, is that inherently anti-Christian?

00:13:17.000 No, I mean, I don't think so at all.

00:13:20.000 I mean, is it against Christian theology?

00:13:22.000 What I will say is you can find Jews who will argue, and they'll say the difference here is that like the entire because the concept of Christianity is very bound up with Judaism, more so than Islamism.

00:13:35.000 It was a Jew, yes, but no, not even just that.

00:13:37.000 It's that, so we claim there is an Old Testament and a New Testament.

00:13:40.000 So, what Christians did from the Jewish perspective is we came in, took their holy books, and said, Actually, this is about our religion, and your prophecies actually mean this.

00:13:53.000 And here's our new books that we're also adding to it, and this is what's really going on.

00:13:58.000 It's hilarious.

00:13:58.000 It's Jews that did that.

00:13:59.000 That's what it is.

00:14:00.000 Yes, yes.

00:14:00.000 You know, I mean, so I know about Sabbath keepers.

00:14:05.000 Yeah, and a very, a very valid take is you could say, actually, even, and many Christians have argued this historically, that essentially what you have is you have a split in Judaism.

00:14:14.000 And some Jews became Christian and also got a lot of followers elsewhere.

00:14:18.000 And other Jews sort of doubled down on certain Jewish practices to create modern rabbinic Judaism as we understand it today.

00:14:27.000 This will also be very controversial because to some extent, you're kind of saying modern Judaism is a newer religion than Christianity in that sense.

00:14:35.000 Oh, I found it.

00:14:35.000 I found the glossary.

00:14:37.000 What is the AGC?

00:14:39.000 This is it.

00:14:40.000 The American Jewish Council or AJC's translate hate, stopping anti-Semitism starts with understanding it.

00:14:47.000 Here's the whole glossary.

00:14:48.000 You want to hear the table of contents just real quickly?

00:14:51.000 Blood libel.

00:14:52.000 Are you kidding me?

00:14:53.000 Clannish using the word conspiracy theory.

00:14:57.000 What?

00:15:00.000 This stuff creates more anti-Semitism when you try to like micro-police people's statements saying that they're anti-Semitic.

00:15:06.000 Illuminati, of course.

00:15:08.000 We know that one.

00:15:09.000 New World Order.

00:15:10.000 Wait, Illuminati's anti-Semitic?

00:15:12.000 There's a whole channel.

00:15:13.000 No, that one's definitely.

00:15:14.000 Come on.

00:15:15.000 I never would think Illuminati anti-Semitism.

00:15:17.000 Oh, man.

00:15:18.000 I don't think that my sweetest.

00:15:19.000 I think Illuminati as everybody's the deep state is, you know.

00:15:23.000 Yes, of course.

00:15:24.000 It's all, it's all like pro.

00:15:25.000 They always, Illuminati is always bound up with like the Rothschilds, who are obviously a wealthy Jewish family and all of that. 0.95

00:15:32.000 They were like a secular German banking family.

00:15:34.000 No, it doesn't.

00:15:36.000 It's so much, it's a deep rabbit hole.

00:15:38.000 Anti-Semitism is really old.

00:15:39.000 So there's like lots of weird.

00:15:41.000 I'm just so disconnected from anti-Semitism.

00:15:44.000 I just like, I mean, in all that kind of like inner like chatting circles that it seems like such a reach.

00:15:51.000 When I think of Illuminati, I think of people that do this hand sign and they have like saying rap songs like Illuminati, got my mind, soul, and body.

00:15:58.000 What's that rap song that they, who's saying that?

00:16:03.000 I don't know. 1.00

00:16:03.000 I don't listen to this crap. 1.00

00:16:04.000 Wait, they have an entire chapter that globalism, using the term globalist means you're anti-Semitic. 1.00

00:16:10.000 See, this, this, and they have anticulture.

00:16:15.000 They use anti-culture.

00:16:17.000 When it's anti-Semitic.

00:16:18.000 Okay, but let's be clear, though.

00:16:19.000 And I want to give the Daily Wire a little bit of an, not an olive branch, but here's where I think they went wrong.

00:16:26.000 That anti-Semites can say Christ is king.

00:16:31.000 That is true.

00:16:32.000 Yeah.

00:16:33.000 But they never made that argument.

00:16:35.000 The argument is they said the phrase itself has become an anti-Semitic.

00:16:39.000 Yeah, I mean, I want to hear, we'll just seize on one of the arguments.

00:16:42.000 I know we're friendly with James Lindsay, but we might.

00:16:44.000 James is the best.

00:16:45.000 Yeah, but he did say this on March 24th.

00:16:49.000 He said, Christ as king, as it is declared, is a sophisticated and manipulative dialectical trap like Black Lives Matter. 1.00

00:16:58.000 And Christians are being baited into it by a few public figures and by a band of anti-social troublemakers, likely led by a Fed.

00:17:07.000 So I think what James is saying here, and I don't, I trust James' instincts 100%.

00:17:12.000 He's actually one of my closest friends, is he's saying that the people that are pushing the Christ as things is they're not trying to evangelize.

00:17:19.000 They're trying to troll.

00:17:21.000 But we're asking the question: are those three words inherently anti-Semitic?

00:17:26.000 And also, I will say, Christ is king is not as Black Lives Matter. 1.00

00:17:30.000 It's just two, those are two different statements.

00:17:32.000 Okay.

00:17:32.000 I just want to make that clear.

00:17:34.000 But I think it's so destructive when you try to say that the primary truth claim of Christianity is Jew hatred.

00:17:46.000 I just, I can't, I'm not going to put up with that or act as if that's defensible.

00:17:51.000 Well, and here's the deal, too.

00:17:53.000 The core of this entire debate since Jesus came is this whole concept of Christ being king, right?

00:18:00.000 So like, yeah, I mean, I'm Mormon.

00:18:04.000 I have lots of disagreements with Charlie on things and their statements that we fundamentally have disagreements on doctrine, right?

00:18:13.000 This is the core doctrine.

00:18:15.000 Yeah, it's the church of Latter-day Saints of Jesus Christ.

00:18:17.000 So this is the part, this is the part where it's like, where if somebody came to me and said, you know, again, there's, there's some statement that, you know, that is, that's very prominent in Mormonism, which is like, Joseph Smith was our prophet or whatever.

00:18:31.000 Yeah, that's the core fundamental divergence from my faith and the Baptists that he came from or all the evangelicals that he claimed from.

00:18:43.000 That's part of the whole debate.

00:18:45.000 That's not anti-Semitism.

00:18:46.000 That's not anti-I don't view that as anti-Mormon to attack, you know, that whole thing.

00:18:52.000 It's just you disagree with that.

00:18:53.000 And that's fundamentally.

00:18:54.000 So taking that off the table, in my opinion, is actually really anti-it's really going after Christians.

00:19:02.000 I totally agree.

00:19:03.000 It's anti-Christian. 0.90

00:19:04.000 I mean, it's like to even say that those three words are anti-Semitic is trying to like almost dull the sword that is Christianity in the most not negative way, but like, what are we supposed to say?

00:19:16.000 Like, well, Jesus is a good dude.

00:19:18.000 No, like the idea is that there's a kingship, that there, the ultimate thing that unites us is that there is a lordship above all.

00:19:25.000 That is, well, that's a divinity.

00:19:27.000 That's Christ.

00:19:27.000 That's the core of Christianity, right?

00:19:29.000 It's like, if you do not believe that Christ is who he is, you are not a Christian.

00:19:35.000 And so I agree with Blake. 0.83

00:19:36.000 Is like, if you're going to go hound somebody in the face like about this, it's the same thing that I believe with like people with like the sitting on the corners yelling at people about masturbation.

00:19:45.000 Like, probably not the best way to get people to sit, it's mean, it's whatever.

00:19:53.000 It's probably not the best form.

00:19:54.000 I'm going to yell whatever I want on street corners, okay?

00:19:57.000 But you have a right to, but I just don't, I just don't think you said it the right way.

00:20:03.000 That's not the best form of evangelizing, right?

00:20:07.000 You were right about that.

00:20:08.000 But that doesn't mean that you can't ask people to shirk the fundamental principle, the concrete foundational principle of your faith, of your being, of your every fiber of it is insane, no matter how much you disagree.

00:20:22.000 It's even worse than that, is that they're calling it evil because anti-Semitism is evil, right?

00:20:28.000 So they're saying the phrase.

00:20:30.000 It's kind of they're doing this trans, it's like a transmutation of it or a transitive property where they're just saying, like, yeah, that thing is bad. 0.66

00:20:38.000 And we've attached this phrase to that thing.

00:20:40.000 Now that phrase is equally bad.

00:20:43.000 But let's let's try to say why, how, because I really respect Jeremy Boring and I know him and I like Ben a lot.

00:20:49.000 I've known him for a long time.

00:20:50.000 And I like Matt Walsh and I like Andrew Clavin.

00:20:53.000 How did they come to this conclusion?

00:20:56.000 Jack, they came to this conclusion, I think, because the primary drivers of the phrase Christ is king flirt with anti-Semitic, let's say, tropes or narratives online.

00:21:08.000 Is that correct?

00:21:09.000 So they blurred the phrase with maybe the community that's pushing it.

00:21:14.000 And I think that's intellectually sloppy.

00:21:17.000 I don't think that's rooted in theology.

00:21:19.000 But Jack, you said that Jeremy mentioned in his Twitter space or whatever that this was a primary reason why they dismissed Candace.

00:21:26.000 Is that right?

00:21:28.000 Well, no, no, no, no.

00:21:29.000 There was this, there was this like report that came out.

00:21:32.000 I don't think it was a Jeremy.

00:21:33.000 I know I didn't listen to all of Jeremy's space.

00:21:35.000 So it could have come up there, but I'm not basing this on that.

00:21:38.000 There was this report that came out that claimed that said there was some kind of internal meeting where this was discussed, and that what Andrew Clavin said afterwards was, and I'm not putting that out in any way.

00:21:51.000 And that could be wrong, et cetera, et cetera, a grain of a grain of salt.

00:21:54.000 But again, we don't have a lot of good information on this anyway.

00:21:56.000 And I wish that everybody would just be a little more forthcoming on this whole thing.

00:22:00.000 But it just, it feels like they haven't been.

00:22:03.000 And when it, and that's what we want.

00:22:06.000 We want clarity at the end of the day.

00:22:07.000 We all want clarity.

00:22:09.000 And so there's this question about whether or not what Andrew Clavin was saying on his show was then done after this public meeting, where that phrase was specifically brought up.

00:22:22.000 And so here's my point to get back to you.

00:22:25.000 And I think it's kind of clear that it certainly had something to do with it.

00:22:29.000 You know, this idea that the Groypers pushing Christ is king is the reason that Candace was saying Christ is king or that she meant it in the same way or that they mean it in an anti-Semitic way, et cetera, et cetera. 0.99

00:22:42.000 It's like, whoa, hold on a second here.

00:22:45.000 Christ is king.

00:22:46.000 That's number one.

00:22:47.000 That's the most important thing.

00:22:49.000 And if people are saying it, perhaps they just mean it to mean what it is.

00:22:53.000 Sometimes saying Christ is king just means Christ is king.

00:22:57.000 And if you're attributing stuff to it without talking to the people about why they believe that, without asking them what their morals are, without asking them what their intentions are, and ascribing all of these, like, oh, it's the same as Black Lives Matter.

00:23:11.000 Oh, it's a dialectic trap.

00:23:12.000 Oh, it's actually secretly anti-Semitic.

00:23:15.000 It's hateful.

00:23:16.000 It's this.

00:23:18.000 The real question I would have is: number one, do you really think going into this in Holy Week is a good move?

00:23:25.000 You know, I think it was like Palm Sunday when all of this went down.

00:23:29.000 And then on the other side of it, do you really think that the outside world knows about all of this e-drama on Twitter and all the rest of it?

00:23:39.000 Because if you have a narrative, I'm just saying this from an optics standpoint right now.

00:23:43.000 But if you have a narrative out there that somebody was embracing Christ too much and that was the reason that they were let go from their job, that's really not a good narrative that you want to spread.

00:23:55.000 And so the issue that I have with, and I'm not even talking about Daily Wire at this point, but the issue that I have is that it feels to me as though people all of a sudden have a so Christians are the majority in the United States and Christians have always been the majority of the United States. 0.92

00:24:11.000 We've been a Christian majority country literally since our inception, since prior to the inception of the current government, the Constitution, et cetera.

00:24:20.000 And so it doesn't seem like people have an issue with people being like passively Christian in America since the 1960s. 0.51

00:24:29.000 But all of a sudden, when people take that Christianity active and when they put it into active practice, particularly in political spaces, particularly within social spaces, all of a sudden, all these issues come up.

00:24:44.000 All these accusations come up.

00:24:46.000 And all of, you want a Christian theology or a theocracy.

00:24:50.000 You want a, you know, you want to, you want to go full fascist like the Christian Taliban or on the flip side, you're just anti-Semitic or you're Islamophobic and all of these different accusations is to say, well, wait a minute, what actually matters to you, this belief of, oh, that we need to need to be tolerant of everything out there under the sun?

00:25:08.000 Or do you actually believe Christ is king?

00:25:10.000 Yes or no?

00:25:11.000 And for me, that's really what matters the most.

00:25:13.000 And that's always going to be what matters the most.

00:25:15.000 Yeah.

00:25:15.000 And I think there's also an over examination of intentions here because intentions really don't matter that much.

00:25:24.000 I mean, in this particular situation, and I've always used, you know, the trans debate because they like to seize on intentions like, oh, Mr. Thomas means well. 0.77

00:25:32.000 He's like, no, he's a cheater.

00:25:33.000 It doesn't matter.

00:25:34.000 He's in the practice of cheating.

00:25:35.000 Literally policing thought.

00:25:37.000 I would say what disappoints me here is to the extent this is dividing the Daily Wire and Daily Wire supporters and the different people that they have there is we know there are sincere Christians at the Daily Wire still.

00:25:54.000 And I just checked to see if they've said anything and they have been totally silent about, or at least they haven't, they certainly haven't tweeted Christ as king.

00:26:04.000 And I think you can do that in ways where they could engage with what's going on here and like, you know, why they can say it and how it's not anti-Semitic to say it.

00:26:12.000 And I am sincerely disappointed they have not done so, especially given the context of what this time is.

00:26:19.000 And I think they could easily have the same conversation we're having, say some of the same things we're saying here.

00:26:26.000 And it would not destroy their lives or even probably cause substantial damage.

00:26:31.000 And it would affirm, it would be a good, it would be a mitzvah. 0.54

00:26:35.000 It would be a good thing to do.

00:26:36.000 It would be a good thing for the faith that they profess.

00:26:40.000 And I do, I don't want to say I'm let down.

00:26:43.000 They don't need my approval or anything, but I do think it's unfortunate.

00:26:48.000 Well, and I want to just say this point too, because you brought up a really, really important point.

00:26:52.000 And I actually think that this is probably the entire thing and an overreaction because of this.

00:26:58.000 And this is why it matters to understand this and know this activity.

00:27:01.000 A lot of the Groypers who, there's some that are okay-ish and they just want to have an honest debate about some of these issues. 0.62

00:27:09.000 And there's others that are vastly conspiratorial.

00:27:14.000 And more importantly, they are students of Solinsky.

00:27:18.000 And this is what they do.

00:27:19.000 And you brought up a really important point.

00:27:21.000 The thing that we're not seeing is the every time that they post something and Ben posts something, it's the crisis green, crisis king, crisis king, crisis, crisis king.

00:27:29.000 And nobody's seeing that and talking about that.

00:27:32.000 That's a Solinsky tactic to get in the heads of the guys at the top of the Daily Wire.

00:27:38.000 We've seen this activity before.

00:27:40.000 You have to put on blinders and ignore it and get past it and just live your life, but it's really hard to.

00:27:47.000 I think that the years of that type of activity building up is part of what helped the reactiveness of this.

00:27:55.000 And I'm not saying that Candace knew that statement really bothered her, bothered them, but I'm guessing she knew.

00:28:04.000 And again, I know that it's not relevant.

00:28:07.000 I'll close with this.

00:28:08.000 It doesn't take the truth away from it.

00:28:09.000 Yeah.

00:28:09.000 But my point is, is that you can't let Alinskyites get into your head and allow you to create your decision making.

00:28:16.000 But here's the final test, which is, and I'll tell you, at San Diego State, a young man came up to me with a sweatshirt that said, Christ is king.

00:28:23.000 And I said, I love your sweatshirt.

00:28:25.000 Because I didn't know any of this stuff was going.

00:28:26.000 I don't have Twitter.

00:28:28.000 If you don't say that you like it as a Christian, then you got a problem.

00:28:35.000 If all of a sudden you say, I don't like your sweatshirt, like wait a second.

00:28:37.000 We're going to have, if this goes the way it goes on other social issues with conservatives in 30 years, we'll be arguing like, is let me say Jesus is okay anti-Semitic. 0.77

00:28:47.000 Is it offensive?

00:28:48.000 No, but Jesus was a good dude.

00:28:49.000 That's the right point that they make, though.

00:28:51.000 And again, this is where a lot of people, this is like MAGA, right?

00:28:53.000 This is like other things.

00:28:54.000 It's like, wait, you can't really disagree with making America great again.

00:29:00.000 It's the same thing with good slogans.

00:29:03.000 And again, this is the whole Black Lives Matter thing.

00:29:06.000 America has devolved.

00:29:07.000 But it's different because Black Lives Matter was a group.

00:29:09.000 We have to understand that.

00:29:10.000 They were like an organization.

00:29:11.000 I know, but how it started was the phrase, how can you just, this is the normal, you know, normie people in blue states could not disagree with that statement.

00:29:21.000 That's why they got corporate America suckered into this entire thing and they figured it out.

00:29:25.000 They're like, oh my gosh, we could never fall for that again.

00:29:28.000 But that's like where you put statements that are out that you can't disagree with.

00:29:31.000 And it's in the right, there's group people on the right that are smart to do that because we should do some of that.

00:29:37.000 But it's like when you're just like prodding it in people's faces just to like make a point instead of what the actual meaning is and live by it, then it cheapens it.

00:29:45.000 And then we can't let that happen with the phrase like Christ is king.

00:29:48.000 Yeah.

00:29:48.000 And the final thing is go ahead, Jack.

00:29:51.000 Just to throw out that there's, there's a power in saying Christ is king from a obviously spiritual and theological and moral, but also political, also political perspective.

00:30:03.000 Because saying Christ is king presupposes Christian morality.

00:30:07.000 It presupposes the Christian values.

00:30:10.000 It presupposes the Christian way of life in a political context.

00:30:14.000 And that presents an entire an entire framework that is a viable competing vision to everything that the left pushes.

00:30:24.000 Everything from the LGBT agenda to the race agenda to everything that they push in society. 0.99

00:30:30.000 If you say Christ is king and you center the world on Christ, now you're pushing your entire lens away from all of the gay race communism stuff. 1.00

00:30:43.000 And you're actually putting it on something that matters.

00:30:47.000 And oh, by the way, is intended to be universal.

00:30:50.000 That's how we know it.

00:30:51.000 It's a viable competing vision.

00:30:52.000 Everyone's getting yes.

00:30:53.000 And speaking of the race or all this weird Marxist communism stuff, it's, I will note, in past very brutal wars, one of the watchwords of rebels has been viva Christo Rey, long live Christ the king.

00:31:09.000 That was like what?

00:31:11.000 Mexicans would use that when they were fighting against their Marxist government.

00:31:16.000 Spaniards would use it when fighting, I believe, against Napoleon's armies and in the Spanish Civil War.

00:31:21.000 And that has been a watchword of Christian warriors throughout history, if you will.

00:31:27.000 So we should, I think we should not just give away that phrase as something we're not allowed to do.

00:31:31.000 We have to get to other topics.

00:31:32.000 I'll say one last thing: Christ is king.

00:31:34.000 We spent a long time on that one.

00:31:36.000 So I'll give you two choices.

00:31:37.000 We can either jump to Diddy and talk about the new Epstein, or we can talk about Huberman.

00:31:43.000 I know you were really into that topic.

00:31:44.000 I think the Huberman's really interesting.

00:31:46.000 I don't know the extent of all the details because apparently this guy lived a very full life.

00:31:52.000 Very full.

00:31:52.000 I don't know how.

00:31:54.000 Dan, do we want to talk about this or do you want to go to Diddy?

00:31:56.000 We'll just decide for it.

00:31:58.000 Let's do Diddy first.

00:31:58.000 Okay, I think Diddy is more applicable.

00:32:01.000 And I've gotten my, by the way, I'm written more appealing to the mass.

00:32:04.000 What's hilarious is the media is something.

00:32:06.000 I'm written like 15 different Diddy articles.

00:32:08.000 Charlie, I couldn't tell you the difference between Diddy to Jay-Z to Lil Wayne a week ago.

00:32:15.000 And all of a sudden, I'm like a P. Diddy expert.

00:32:17.000 You are the expert.

00:32:18.000 It's true.

00:32:19.000 Someone make that his tagline.

00:32:20.000 He's the P. Diddy.

00:32:21.000 If there was a gun to my head and you said, name a song that P. Diddy has ever performed, produced, or wrote, I'd be in a cemetery.

00:32:29.000 I think I had die too, actually.

00:32:31.000 This headline: Watch Charlie Kirk attempt to link P. Diddy's arrest, Jeffrey Epstein, and the resignations of two Republicans.

00:32:39.000 Wait, wait, wait.

00:32:40.000 Written by media matters.

00:32:43.000 But Ilhan Omar already told us the best P. Diddy song.

00:32:47.000 It's all about the Benjamins.

00:32:49.000 Oh, is that by him?

00:32:50.000 Oh, man.

00:32:52.000 Yeah.

00:32:52.000 Oh, is all about the Benjamins by Pitty?

00:32:55.000 Yeah.

00:32:56.000 P. Diddy or Diddy?

00:32:57.000 Pity.

00:32:58.000 I don't know.

00:32:58.000 Puff Daddy.

00:32:59.000 P. Diddy.

00:33:00.000 Okay, so just to be clear, rappers are allowed to change their name whenever they want.

00:33:04.000 So he has at various points been Sean Combs, Puff Daddy, P. Diddy, and Diddy.

00:33:11.000 I got nothing against the name changes, okay?

00:33:13.000 A lot of people in the Bible change their name.

00:33:14.000 Abram, the Abraham, Saul, the Paul.

00:33:17.000 So you're saying Diddy.

00:33:18.000 And wait, you know, a lot of the patriarchs.

00:33:22.000 A lot of the patriarchs also were allowed by God to have multiple wives.

00:33:27.000 And so Diddy also seems to have had multiple wives.

00:33:30.000 Hold on a second.

00:33:31.000 Abram tried to sell Sarah to the Pharaoh of Egypt.

00:33:34.000 Diddy a prophet?

00:33:36.000 I wouldn't go that far, but let's get into the actual meat of the accusation.

00:33:41.000 So I made all this news about Puff Daddy.

00:33:44.000 That was one of his names, right?

00:33:46.000 Yeah, Puff Daddy is one.

00:33:47.000 Okay.

00:33:48.000 Because apparently he had cameras everywhere and like underground tunnels.

00:33:52.000 And I said, obviously, this guy is like rapper Epstein.

00:33:55.000 A lot of prophets could see things that they were not present for.

00:33:58.000 Do you know, like, did Elijah have a camera?

00:34:00.000 Hebrew means to be able to see forwards.

00:34:02.000 It literally means Elijah, I believe, was able to see things that were unseen.

00:34:06.000 That's right.

00:34:06.000 Did he have cameras all over Israel?

00:34:09.000 I don't think Elijah had an Orlian security state.

00:34:13.000 But you don't know for sure.

00:34:16.000 I don't know if that technology was invented yet.

00:34:18.000 Well, the whole theory about technology being just completely obliterated and the restart.

00:34:23.000 I mean, this could bring up all that whole conversation.

00:34:25.000 Who wants to go through actually the details of this?

00:34:27.000 Because I'm as confused as you are.

00:34:30.000 Okay, so all of this, and I say this as someone who did know who P. Diddy was.

00:34:36.000 Well, I mean, obviously, I knew the name.

00:34:37.000 I couldn't pick him out of it.

00:34:38.000 LL Cool JP Diddy, Lil Wayne, I die.

00:34:40.000 So the origin of this is: so last month in late February, he was sued by a former associate of his, who I believe was a producer.

00:34:50.000 They like worked, they traveled, they lived together for a long time, not in that sort of way, allegedly.

00:34:55.000 And he sued him and made a lot of pretty spectacular allegations against Diddy.

00:35:01.000 He claimed, so this is where a lot of the wild stuff in this is coming from.

00:35:04.000 He's claiming that he's the one who says Diddy has hundreds of cameras in his home so that they can see everything that's going on in every room.

00:35:11.000 And Diddy has some pretty wild parties.

00:35:13.000 So, in theory, he could have loads of blackmail on people.

00:35:16.000 He says there's sort of trafficking type activity where there's girls and some of them are underage and they're being at these parties.

00:35:24.000 He also claims various, there's been controversies with Diddy in the past.

00:35:28.000 Like, he was at a club where there was a shooting and he was with his then-girlfriend, Jennifer Lopez.

00:35:34.000 And now he says Diddy actually confessed to him that he was involved in that shooting, which he was never convicted of anything with, and that Jennifer Lopez was carrying his piece for him.

00:35:45.000 All sorts of drama.

00:35:47.000 And I think this has suddenly blown up because I think initially people didn't take it super seriously.

00:35:53.000 But then this week, the federal government raids his homes in connection with all of this.

00:35:58.000 And they're handcuffing some of Diddy's sons.

00:36:01.000 And Diddy, we don't know exactly where he is, but he seems to not be within the United States right now.

00:36:07.000 And it just invites all of this wild, wild theorizing about what's going on.

00:36:11.000 And of course, with the cameras, especially, we get all of the Epstein comparisons.

00:36:15.000 He's obviously friends with a million celebrities.

00:36:18.000 There's even a royal connection, although it's a pretty flimsy one. 0.82

00:36:22.000 And I, you know, it feeds this powerful need among the public to believe that our ruling class is full of pedophiles.

00:36:31.000 And so we're going to have stories like this till the end of time, I assume.

00:36:35.000 So he hasn't been arrested yet.

00:36:38.000 He has not.

00:36:39.000 Okay.

00:36:40.000 So, or criminally charged for that matter.

00:36:43.000 So the but some of these there were people in handcuffs.

00:36:47.000 Yes, his sons were seen handcuffed during the raids, but I don't believe they were actually arrested.

00:36:53.000 Why were they handcuffed then?

00:36:55.000 Just in case.

00:36:56.000 I don't know.

00:36:58.000 I'm not with the DHS.

00:36:59.000 Now you're now you're interrogating me.

00:37:01.000 Who's under investigation here, Charlie?

00:37:03.000 All right.

00:37:04.000 So Jack, do you have thoughts on Mr. Diddy?

00:37:09.000 So I will just say that I have actually gotten reached out to by a number of people, both really actually before this and during Hollywood contacts and others who have basically said, look, you're basically looking at kind of a kind of a Harvey Weinstein slash Jeffrey Epstein situation where it's sort of like gatekeeping, casting couching, plus a little bit of blackmail mixed in,

00:37:39.000 where essentially this was the same type of thing that was going on with Puff Daddy or P. Diddy, whatever you want to go by, Sean Combs, as was going on with those previous situations.

00:37:53.000 And that there's going to be a lot more names added to this.

00:37:56.000 Now, people already know Beyonce Jay-Z are actually already tied to this.

00:38:00.000 Some people are even named in the lawsuits and pretty high-name people.

00:38:03.000 A lot of other rappers, and by the way, including another guy, Prince Harry, was also named in some of these because this was sort of the scene, right?

00:38:11.000 The scene was you would go to the party and you would be an up-and-comer, or maybe you weren't an up-and-comer yet.

00:38:17.000 You wanted to weigh in, et cetera, et cetera.

00:38:19.000 So you hold all these parties.

00:38:20.000 And then eventually, you know, stuff happens.

00:38:23.000 One thing leads to another.

00:38:24.000 People take pictures.

00:38:25.000 People get video.

00:38:26.000 And now all of a sudden there's blackmail and these blackmail, these blackmail rings and these blackmail abilities go over on people.

00:38:34.000 And so, you know, again, as to say, like, everyone deserves their day in court for sure.

00:38:39.000 And I will hold to that for P. Diddy the way I would for everybody.

00:38:44.000 But at the same time, I'm just saying that I've been getting a lot of people reaching out to me saying this is 100% what's been going on.

00:38:52.000 And this idea that, you know, that this guy was all just, you know, doing this all above board.

00:38:58.000 It's just a complete joke.

00:39:00.000 So that is an interesting thing.

00:39:02.000 We once again have once this has come out, people are digging out all these clips where like Dave Chappelle has implied that P. Diddy's really weird and other people have suggested he has all this bad stuff.

00:39:14.000 There's so much tape about this.

00:39:17.000 Yeah, so we definitely do.

00:39:18.000 Let's see.

00:39:19.000 Uh, how about we just let's do uh 58?

00:39:22.000 This is uh 50 Cent.

00:39:23.000 He says things, he doesn't even know what he's saying.

00:39:26.000 It's like fruity.

00:39:29.000 People say that to me, I get a little uncomfortable.

00:39:32.000 I get uncomfortable.

00:39:33.000 Like he said, he said something to me one time a long time ago at Chris Lightye's wedding.

00:39:37.000 He told me he'd take me shopping.

00:39:39.000 I looked at him like, what the what the what'd you just say?

00:39:43.000 Let me move, man, before I do something.

00:39:44.000 You're gonna make me mess up the wedding.

00:39:46.000 Oh, that's a nice gesture.

00:39:48.000 Let me get out of the dude.

00:39:49.000 Take me through.

00:39:52.000 I want to let's play this one.

00:39:54.000 This is Justin Bieber, who was underage at the time with Sean Combs, Play Cut 62.

00:39:58.000 Justin, he's in.

00:39:59.000 You ever seen the movie 48 Hours?

00:40:01.000 Right now, he's having 48 hours with Diddy, him and his boy.

00:40:06.000 They're having the times of their lives.

00:40:07.000 Like, you know, where are we hanging out and what we doing?

00:40:13.000 We can't really disclose.

00:40:15.000 But it's definitely a 15-year-old's dream.

00:40:19.000 I don't really, I don't have legal guardianship of him, but for the next 48 hours, he's with me.

00:40:24.000 So, and yeah, and we're going to go full, buck full crazy.

00:40:29.000 I'm going crazy. 0.68

00:40:31.000 Buck full crazy.

00:40:32.000 He never had a chance. 0.99

00:40:34.000 That would explain why Justin's so screwed up. 0.98

00:40:37.000 He might have been abused or something. 0.99

00:40:39.000 I don't know.

00:40:40.000 Or, you know, I can't believe that video's out there.

00:40:44.000 Yeah.

00:40:45.000 So you have, it turns out these things, everyone's like, oh, everyone was saying Diddy was so strange for a long time.

00:40:50.000 And you just wonder, maybe it's that it's just Hollywood where everyone sees people committing creepy sex crimes all the time.

00:40:59.000 And then they just don't report it.

00:41:01.000 They're just, there's like, oh, yeah, Harvey wants. 0.55

00:41:03.000 And then they project this onto the rest of the world where they'll say, you know, oh, yeah, your random company is just full of sex predators. 0.99

00:41:10.000 No, Hollywood is full of sex predators because it's full of liberals. 0.97

00:41:15.000 You want to say something really quick? 0.99

00:41:15.000 Play cut. 0.99

00:41:17.000 Well, I just want to say, I think that because we're now in the era, I mean, think about all the crap that happened before the era of social media, of recording, everything else.

00:41:27.000 Think about how many recordings are out there.

00:41:29.000 And somebody said this once to me because there's a person that we know records a lot of stuff of their own stuff.

00:41:35.000 That puts a target on your back to become a you know, basically just have the feds come in and take all your stuff.

00:41:43.000 And then they have all of that.

00:41:44.000 So think about all the famous people that exist that have a bunch of recordings like this.

00:41:48.000 They're just like this P. Diddy situation.

00:41:52.000 That's probably why he got part of the reason why he got raided.

00:41:55.000 That there's all this stuff's going to be coming out over the next years and decades, potentially, that's going to be coming out about people all the time.

00:42:03.000 Let's play this next piece of tape here.

00:42:06.000 59.

00:42:07.000 But he needs to build a spot over there in Bally for his boy Puffy.

00:42:12.000 Puffy need. 1.00

00:42:14.000 I warned Keepe D to take his ass over there. 1.00

00:42:17.000 There's no extradition laws over there. 0.99

00:42:19.000 So I'm warning you now, Puffy. 1.00

00:42:22.000 Take your ass over there. 1.00

00:42:24.000 Reggie prediction. 1.00

00:42:26.000 I know Puffy is smart enough, and he probably done already cleaned his houses.

00:42:30.000 But sexual predators, what do they do?

00:42:33.000 They hold on to their tapes.

00:42:36.000 And cops know that.

00:42:37.000 So I wouldn't be surprised if some storages or some of Puffy properties be getting raided real soon.

00:42:45.000 Okay, so who is that?

00:42:46.000 And when did he post that?

00:42:48.000 That I'll need to hear from someone else.

00:42:50.000 I'm not entirely sure.

00:42:53.000 Who is it?

00:42:54.000 I don't know.

00:42:56.000 The note in the clip sheet said rapper.

00:42:58.000 I don't know.

00:42:59.000 I know approximately three more rappers than you do.

00:43:02.000 Well, I certainly don't know who that is.

00:43:04.000 So, Mr. Rapper comes out and says that P. Debddy better find a country for extradition.

00:43:13.000 Is that what he's saying there?

00:43:14.000 I think he's saying that Diddy has to get out of the country and go somewhere with no extradition because stuff is going to come down and take him out.

00:43:21.000 That would be more credible if it happened before.

00:43:27.000 I think it was so Benny had it on his show, which is why we had it.

00:43:30.000 And I assume it was something predating him, but I guess, I don't know, producers bail me out here.

00:43:37.000 But it is funny.

00:43:39.000 He mentions that where, you know, they'll be raiding it and they'll try to destroy the evidence.

00:43:43.000 Diddy has multiple homes and they only raided two of them.

00:43:46.000 And there was discussion afterwards.

00:43:47.000 Oh, yeah, the feds will likely raid his home in New York soon.

00:43:50.000 We know.

00:43:51.000 It's Reggie Wright Jr.

00:43:52.000 I want to be respectful.

00:43:53.000 I don't want to just call him rapper, man.

00:43:54.000 I'm going to call him Mr. Rapper.

00:43:56.000 Well, he has a name.

00:43:56.000 Okay.

00:43:57.000 Reggie Wright Jr.

00:43:58.000 And it was before the raid.

00:43:59.000 So super credible then.

00:44:00.000 Okay.

00:44:01.000 That adds a lot of credibility then.

00:44:03.000 Yeah.

00:44:04.000 So they were saying we'll raid.

00:44:06.000 They'll probably raid his home in New York soon.

00:44:09.000 Well, why don't you raid it now?

00:44:12.000 You can't announce you're going to raid something.

00:44:15.000 They'll get rid of the evidence.

00:44:17.000 It's so much bizarre stuff from our government.

00:44:20.000 It's almost like they're trying to cover it up.

00:44:22.000 Almost like they're trying to cover it up.

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00:45:39.000 Okay, final topic.

00:45:41.000 We've got, we can talk about Huberman or we can talk about the people getting punched in the face in New York.

00:45:46.000 Let's start with the punch in the face because Huberman, I need to kind of educate myself a little bit more too.

00:45:50.000 The quick thing is getting punched in the face in New York. 1.00

00:45:52.000 So there's several viral TikToks where a bunch of women just talk about being punched in the face by random people in New York. 1.00

00:45:59.000 The first one that went viral was Clip 100.

00:46:02.000 Okay.

00:46:03.000 Evi, I was literally just walking and a man came up and punched me in the face.

00:46:08.000 Oh my God.

00:46:09.000 It hurts so back.

00:46:10.000 I can't even talk.

00:46:11.000 Literally, I fell to the ground and now this giant seg is swarming and I'm like, oh my God. 1.00

00:46:18.000 It's so cruisy.

00:46:19.000 But there's several of these.

00:46:21.000 So we'll just go to another one, 101.

00:46:24.000 I literally just got punched by some man on this walk.

00:46:28.000 He goes, sorry, and then punches me in the head. 1.00

00:46:31.000 Holy fuck. 1.00

00:46:32.000 What the hell just happened? 1.00

00:46:35.000 Oh my God. 1.00

00:46:37.000 So there are these groups of hoodlums.

00:46:39.000 Just one street, just one guy. 0.91

00:46:42.000 One guy will just walk up and just match a woman that's doing this.

00:46:47.000 So it seems that there has been a viral wave of this involving one guy who has been arrested.

00:46:58.000 And let me see, where's the article here?

00:47:03.000 And so several people have been getting arrested.

00:47:06.000 One guy has been getting arrested for this, and he is, I believe, the grandson of Marcus Garvey.

00:47:10.000 And he ran for mayor as a member of the claims he's the grandson of Garvey.

00:47:16.000 Okay.

00:47:17.000 All right.

00:47:19.000 And what's incredible about this, one, is that you could just do this with impunity because in New York, you can punch someone in the face and you won't be tackled by bystanders because no one wants to get charged with, you know, murder if that person happens to drug out while they're being held down.

00:47:34.000 And police aren't going to chase them down.

00:47:37.000 Or even if they do get arrested, if it's not a high-profile political story, odds are very good they will be let out.

00:47:43.000 This seems to be about a different person here.

00:47:46.000 But did we get the video I sent you guys?

00:47:50.000 If you tackle the wrong guy and call him a guy, you could also be charged in New York.

00:47:58.000 Right?

00:48:01.000 You don't want to talk.

00:48:02.000 I'll give you that one, Tony.

00:48:03.000 That was hilarious.

00:48:04.000 You don't want to tackle with pronouns involved. 0.99

00:48:08.000 No, no, no.

00:48:09.000 Unfortunately, I'm waiting on that.

00:48:10.000 I'm waiting on this clip.

00:48:12.000 A 57-year-old woman was punched in the face in Brooklyn, and they had to wire her mouth shut because her jaw was broken.

00:48:21.000 So it's like the simple.

00:48:22.000 But we don't know if this was all the same guy.

00:48:23.000 We don't.

00:48:24.000 We don't.

00:48:24.000 There is one that went viral.

00:48:28.000 Yeah, there's one because it was like on like some TikTok influencer, but then they caught the guy and this was the Marcus Garvey so-called grandson or whatever.

00:48:36.000 For sure.

00:48:37.000 But it's clear.

00:48:38.000 It's not at all clear that there's that, you know, there's not more than one person doing this.

00:48:42.000 Like it could be, it seems to me like it's kind of like the knockout game, but for women that has kind of returned.

00:48:48.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:48:48.000 And it's just, it, so this example that hopefully we'll have the clip soon, but this woman, 57-year-old woman, punched in the face, jaw wired shut. 1.00

00:48:56.000 And apparently the suspect has seven prior arrests and has, in fact, already is either been released or will soon be released and is not even eligible to be required to do bail.

00:49:08.000 It's just, it turns out punching random people in the face is one of those things you can be let out for.

00:49:14.000 But oh, don't worry.

00:49:15.000 I mean, if they don't, if they don't show up for their court hearing, I guess we'll, we'll put out a notice for their arrest, which police will be in no hurry to actually execute.

00:49:24.000 And there's just, there is something profoundly demented and insane that has taken hold in cities where here's a fact of life.

00:49:31.000 We hear all this crap where, oh, people commit crime because they're driven by poverty. 0.99

00:49:35.000 No, a lot of people commit crimes because they're deranged predators. 0.99

00:49:39.000 That is the number one talking point I get on campuses is they say poor people commit crimes.

00:49:45.000 And there's no, Theodore Dalrymple debunks this at the bottom. 0.99

00:49:50.000 It's total bullcrap. 0.96

00:49:51.000 People commit crimes because they are predatory by nature. 0.99

00:49:54.000 They find it fun.

00:49:55.000 Why do people like look at what happens?

00:49:57.000 There's an explosion of car thefts.

00:49:59.000 Are people stealing cars because they then go and sell the car to get money?

00:50:02.000 No.

00:50:03.000 What's exploded is these kids, a lot of them are just teenagers, they'll steal a car and they'll just use it like an Uber.

00:50:10.000 They'll drive for an hour somewhere and then they'll just ditch the car.

00:50:13.000 They're doing it for fun and they're not getting punished for it. 0.81

00:50:17.000 And in cities, the version of this we get is you have six psychos who like hurting women. 0.73

00:50:23.000 Newsflash, a lot of men like hurting women. 0.99

00:50:25.000 So they punch them in the face. 1.00

00:50:27.000 Or they become trans. 1.00

00:50:28.000 Yeah, or they become trans and then punch them in the face. 1.00

00:50:30.000 And now they're sports heroes and they'll get on the cover of ESPN or something. 0.98

00:50:34.000 That's what happens.

00:50:36.000 And it's just this sick stuff and it's happening. 0.99

00:50:38.000 But I mean, I just, I mean, kind of single women run New York. 0.94

00:50:42.000 They're kind of like the most important demographic politically in New York. 1.00

00:50:45.000 They make the most noise and they're super involved in politics.

00:50:48.000 Are they okay with this?

00:50:49.000 Are they going to put up with it?

00:50:51.000 So that's the thing. 1.00

00:50:53.000 I think actually what happens is, is there are single women.

00:50:57.000 They are very important for this, but I think when this stuff explodes, they kind of learn where they actually stand in the so-called progressive stack. 0.98

00:51:04.000 You've heard about the progressive stack, right?

00:51:07.000 Yeah, I'm fuzzy.

00:51:08.000 It's this is a literal idea the activists will have where you get you can just rank people by how privileged they are, and they will argue about where you should stand.

00:51:15.000 So sometimes you'll see that like any white person is automatically at the bottom, even if they have all the other things.

00:51:21.000 And like, so it'll often be like, Yes, okay, if you're black, you're at the top, and then if you're indigenous, and then if you're gay, you're higher than a straight person in the same group. 0.54

00:51:30.000 Women should always be higher than any they argue about this. 0.92

00:51:34.000 And we've had cultural moments where you kind of allow women to think, oh, we're pretty high up. 1.00

00:51:40.000 Like, we have those, you know, the campus sexual assault thing.

00:51:42.000 That was a big story about a decade ago.

00:51:44.000 The women's march.

00:51:45.000 And yeah, the women's march stuff.

00:51:47.000 And they'll think, like, okay, we're really high on the progressive stack. 0.97

00:51:50.000 And then something comes along like, oh, actually, we're going to let criminals beat the crap out of you and not arrest them. 0.97

00:51:56.000 And if you complain about it, you're a Karen. 0.74

00:51:58.000 And we're going to pass a law called the Karen Act, where if you call the police over it and we don't like the fact that you did that, we will throw you in jail and fire you from your job for it.

00:52:08.000 Let's play cut 115 that adds some detail to this.

00:52:11.000 It is a random, unprovoked, vicious attack on a 57-year-old woman in Brooklyn.

00:52:16.000 Watch as a suspect, ignores another man walking nearby, then punches the woman in her face, causing her to stumble backwards.

00:52:23.000 What happened?

00:52:24.000 Why you hear me?

00:52:25.000 Why you hear me?

00:52:26.000 I was bleeding a lot.

00:52:29.000 I'm so scared.

00:52:30.000 I'm so afraid.

00:52:31.000 Julce Petrarda was on the receiving end of that punch.

00:52:34.000 Her mouth now wired shut.

00:52:35.000 Her face fractured in several places.

00:52:37.000 Drinking food out of a straw for six weeks.

00:52:40.000 Permanent damage to her lower lip.

00:52:42.000 Three teeth knocked out, and she might need surgery. 1.00

00:52:45.000 That's a hard punch. 1.00

00:52:47.000 It's a real hard punch.

00:52:48.000 Do these people get prison time or any consequential punishment?

00:52:52.000 Often, no.

00:52:54.000 And what's frustrating is it'll happen, but it's on this, it's like a political calculation.

00:52:58.000 Oh, it'll finally be a big enough story on the news.

00:53:01.000 And so maybe they'll vaporize one guy over it.

00:53:04.000 But what you get over and over is like those guys on subways who are just trying to shove people on the tracks or attacking people is they'll do one thing after another with no consequences until they finally kill somebody.

00:53:17.000 And then that's a big enough problem.

00:53:18.000 We have to punish them.

00:53:20.000 And that's another truth with crime.

00:53:22.000 Anyone who's got to the level where they are killing people or seriously maiming them and shooting them almost always has lower level crimes where we could have stopped them.

00:53:32.000 We could have imprisoned this person or punished this person enough to get them on a better track.

00:53:38.000 And we choose not to do it.

00:53:39.000 And then we act all shocked when they eventually kill someone. 0.97

00:53:43.000 And then we let these same parasites who are enabling all this to happen come along and say, well, actually, it's a society and privilege that's to blame. 0.97

00:53:51.000 And then people say, well, where are the men? 0.97

00:53:52.000 I can tell where the men are.

00:53:53.000 Daniel Penny is a man who stood up against crime and he's facing 15 years in prison.

00:53:58.000 That's where men went. 0.54

00:53:59.000 So men are like, screw it.

00:54:00.000 I'm not going to defend that. 0.95

00:54:01.000 Men, men.

00:54:02.000 So if an individual, black or whatever color, you know, comes up and punches a woman in the face and someone comes up and then tackles that guy and waits for the cops to come.

00:54:11.000 The guy who tackled the criminal would probably be punished more than the person who exactly men want to be heroic, but not very many men are going to be heroic if there is enormous social sanction against doing it.

00:54:22.000 Yes.

00:54:22.000 Men will do difficult and incredible things as long as they know they will be regarded as heroes for doing it.

00:54:32.000 But if you're going to say you're evil for doing it, they won't.

00:54:36.000 No one wants to get killed and then also be considered a bad guy afterwards.

00:54:41.000 Well, this is the core of New York.

00:54:42.000 I mean, you look at Letitia James with what's going on.

00:54:44.000 I mean, this is all connected, right?

00:54:46.000 When you create a culture within a state, in a city for sure, where you're going after where politics takes precedent, you know, with your prosecutors that are happening and people in their communities don't feel safe, you know, you start to have society unravel.

00:55:05.000 I think that's what you're seeing in many of our states, particularly blue states.

00:55:09.000 But I mean, this is the feeling.

00:55:10.000 If you ask any average Republican, you know, what's the biggest issue outside of border security?

00:55:16.000 It's, you know, people just don't feel super safe and secure in the country in which we live right now.

00:55:21.000 Final topic, Andrew Huberman.

00:55:23.000 All right.

00:55:23.000 Well, so this is a big story this week.

00:55:25.000 So Andrew Huberman, I'd actually never heard of him.

00:55:28.000 I'm not a huge kind of lifestyle podcast listener.

00:55:31.000 Really?

00:55:31.000 No, not really.

00:55:32.000 And you think it's a woo-woo.

00:55:34.000 A lot of woo-woo.

00:55:36.000 Vitamin D. Woo-woo.

00:55:37.000 He's really popular.

00:55:38.000 He's pretty new.

00:55:39.000 He only started a few years ago.

00:55:40.000 I like Andrew Huberman.

00:55:41.000 I like reflexively defended him.

00:55:43.000 I don't even know what he's a cute person.

00:55:44.000 He's more like Charlie.

00:55:44.000 He's kind of like.

00:55:45.000 It's a pretty crazy thing.

00:55:46.000 Sound of a Casanova.

00:55:47.000 He's a, yeah.

00:55:47.000 So he is a cognitive scientist, does these podcast things.

00:55:52.000 He's a legit, like he's legit.

00:55:53.000 He's a legit scientist, has the PhD.

00:55:55.000 They tried to take him down as like a phony scientist.

00:55:58.000 That's not legit.

00:55:59.000 He is a legitimate.

00:56:00.000 We were going to go there.

00:56:01.000 He's like an actual professor of neurobiology and psychology at Stanford.

00:56:03.000 100%.

00:56:04.000 And he has an insanely popular podcast, one of the most popular in the world.

00:56:07.000 It's one of the top five most downloaded podcasts on the planet.

00:56:09.000 Yeah.

00:56:10.000 Millions and millions of subscribers.

00:56:11.000 So if you haven't heard of him, other people have.

00:56:13.000 But this hit piece drops kind of, I don't want to say out of nowhere because there were some signs building up to this, but New York Magazine, which two months ago, their cover story was promoting polyamory.

00:56:25.000 So suddenly they come out and they have Andrew, their headline, Andrew Huberman's mechanisms of control, the private and public seductions of the world's biggest pop neuroscientist.

00:56:37.000 And it turns out that Andrew Huberman, apparently at every waking moment that he was not making a podcast episode, was juggling one of six different women.

00:56:47.000 And the actual like mechanics of it are pretty impressive.

00:56:52.000 Like, let me see if I can get the text here.

00:56:57.000 Like, he would literally be meeting one person.

00:57:00.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:57:01.000 The women compared time-stamp screenshots of text and assembled an extraordinary record of deceptions.

00:57:06.000 There was a day in Texas when after Sarah left his hotel, Andrew slept with Mary and texted Eve.

00:57:12.000 They found days in which he would text nearly identical pictures of himself to two of them at the same time.

00:57:17.000 They realized that the day before he had moved in with Sarah in Berkeley, he had slept with Mary and he had also been with her in December 2023, the weekend before Sarah caught him on a couch with a sixth woman.

00:57:28.000 They realized that on March 21st, 2021, a day of admittedly impressive logistical jujitsu, while Sarah was in Berkeley, Andrew had flown Mary in from Texas to LA to stay with him in Topanga.

00:57:40.000 While Mary was there, visiting from thousands of miles away, he left her and drove to meet Eve at a coffee shop where they had a serious talk about their relationship.

00:57:49.000 They thought they were in a good place.

00:57:51.000 He wanted to make it work.

00:57:52.000 But that's an extraordinary amount of reporting.

00:57:55.000 But why is he being targeted?

00:57:57.000 And he's being targeted because he's popular and because he goes straight after the pharmaceutical companies.

00:58:03.000 He talks a lot about...

00:58:04.000 He's anti-big pharma.

00:58:05.000 Yes, he talks about natural solutions of how you don't need all these pharmacological agents, all these antidepressants, all these anti-anxiety medications, all this Ozembic, how you can improve your life.

00:58:16.000 This is a hit job straight from Pfizer, AstraZeneca, Moderna, and Johnson and Johnson.

00:58:21.000 Their dark arts, black propaganda PR operation said, we have to try to take out Andrew Huberman.

00:58:29.000 This guy is getting into the hearts and minds of too many people, specifically young men.

00:58:33.000 Jack, do you agree?

00:58:35.000 I think that's exactly what it is.

00:58:37.000 I mean, you have to look at any of these people who come out there and whether they, I had, we had Raw Egg Nationalist on the show the other day, and that's exactly what we were talking about, that this is something that he gets into a lot as well on in his work and his writings.

00:58:51.000 I don't know Huberman, but we happen to, Egg and myself have talked about this for a while, that it's clear that this has become something that, I don't know if you want to say it's a right-wing thing or, you know, just sort of an anti-mainstream opinion now, anti-mainstream position to be embracing holistic lifestyles, getting out of pharmaceuticals, getting into biohacking, these types of things.

00:59:15.000 Charlie, I think you know something about ice baths, as a matter of fact.

00:59:18.000 I'm somewhat in.

00:59:19.000 And it's amazing.

00:59:20.000 Right.

00:59:20.000 And so it's, and it's amazing.

00:59:22.000 And, by the way, incredible, because it's absolutely vitalist that the that that the right is, is starting to embrace these things and should, by the way uh, in many ways, because this was predominantly, you know, sort of the, the place of like, like the woo-woo hippies years ago and um, you know, they all turned into like, greenies and climate changers, and so all of this information has been out there and it turns out that, by and large, there's been a lot of truth to it, and this is where uh,

00:59:51.000 this is where Huberman gets in.

00:59:53.000 Yeah, Huberman in, in a way, I would say, presents himself as conservative.

00:59:56.000 I don't know that he's particularly political in any way.

01:00:00.000 I think he's just a guy who follows the data.

01:00:02.000 He follows the data.

01:00:03.000 It's all about improving people's lives and his, his audience is very much, very similar to the Joe Rogan audience.

01:00:08.000 So let's listen to this one here.

01:00:10.000 Huberman says, quote, the health benefits of alcohol diminish after two weeks a drink.

01:00:14.000 A risk of breast cancer for women rises.

01:00:16.000 So if I was one of the top liquor companies, I would try to take Huberman out.

01:00:21.000 He's telling millions of people that alcohol is poison, which it is poison.

01:00:25.000 Play cut 105 and I, I don't tell people what to do.

01:00:28.000 I give them the facts and so they can make the best decisions for them.

01:00:31.000 I mean, it's very clear that unless you're an alcoholic, and provided you're an adult, that you know two drinks per week maximum, um is about the upper threshold beyond which you're going to start getting some health death.

01:00:43.000 That's called.

01:00:44.000 That's called a warm-up to a warm-up in England.

01:00:46.000 Yeah, so I, you know, i've never been a big drinker.

01:00:48.000 I don't drink um, I i'm lucky that it's not something that's.

01:00:52.000 That's a strong draw for me.

01:00:53.000 I have friends that are recovered alcoholics um, and you know their lives are so much better as a function of being sober.

01:01:00.000 But for non-alcoholics, I mean, I think everyone should just know the uh, the health risks, especially women where the risks for breast cancer and other types of cancer that, and that's just the taste.

01:01:10.000 He talks a lot about how if you don't eat well, if you don't exercise, you don't sleep well.

01:01:15.000 His podcasts are very data driven and they're long.

01:01:18.000 They're two and a half to three hours and they're almost just like a lecture.

01:01:21.000 Here's what this study says about this.

01:01:23.000 Here's how you can increase your testosterone.

01:01:25.000 Here's what might be limiting your testosterone.

01:01:27.000 Let's go to this one here, how your brain changes by doing hard things, huh play, cut 106.

01:01:34.000 Most people don't know this, but there's a brain structure called the anterior mid-cingulate cortex.

01:01:40.000 But what's interesting about this brain area is there now a lot of data in humans that's a mouse study showing that when people do anything that they and this is the important part that they don't Want to do, right?

01:01:50.000 It's not about adding more work, it's about adding more work that you don't want to do.

01:01:55.000 This brain area gets bigger.

01:01:57.000 Now, here's what's especially interesting about this brain area to me: the anterior mid-cingulate cortex is smaller in obese people, it gets bigger when they die, it's larger in athletes, it's especially large or grows larger in people that see themselves as challenged and overcome some challenge.

01:02:16.000 And in people that live a very long time, this area keeps its size.

01:02:21.000 Scientists are starting to think of the anterior mid-cingulate cortex not just as one of the seats of willpower, perhaps actually the seat of the will to live.

01:02:31.000 So, the final one you want to play: it's amazing, and by the way, that's his whole shtick, which is like, here's what the neuroscience says about watching porn.

01:02:38.000 His stuff on porn has been viewed over 100 million times.

01:02:41.000 If I was the porn industry, I would want to take him out.

01:02:44.000 If I was the indulgence industry, I wouldn't take him out.

01:02:46.000 If I was like the pleasure-based industry, and if any industry had a bunch of people that they could throw to seduce a person and get them into single-by-center-so you're saying that this is a honeypot operation, not really because actually all the women are like 42 years old, so sorry, bad news.

01:03:03.000 He's big into that.

01:03:04.000 Final one is yes, yes.

01:03:08.000 If I can double-tap that to kind of bring us back to the first uh subject, isn't it interesting that so many of the behaviors that are proscribed as sinful in the Bible are also now coming up to be on the other side of where the neuroscientific data leads us?

01:03:24.000 Isn't it the Bible is true that monogamy is waiting for you and prudent things?

01:03:31.000 A man shall not work that alcohol is actually bad for you, and that a man who drinks forgets the law.

01:03:38.000 It's like Andrew Huberman, through science, is proving the truths of the Bible.

01:03:42.000 Last one is this: play cut 110.

01:03:44.000 You can't have long-term affairs with six different partners, unless he's juggling multiple uh phone accounts or something like that.

01:03:52.000 Right, and some men try to do that, but um, I think it's a could be very taxing.

01:04:02.000 And with that, we will end it.

01:04:04.000 Final thoughts, anybody? 0.99

01:04:06.000 You know, I just wish you'd follow the science on it's probably bad to juggle seven women in your life. 1.00

01:04:11.000 That's can't, that's got to be stressful. 0.99

01:04:12.000 It's got to be stressful.

01:04:14.000 Uh, hey, if you're single, if you're single, if you're single, uh, I would say, guys, I would say to all the young kings out there, work the rotation until you find the one that makes you want to stop the rotation.

01:04:24.000 Andrew Huberman, if Andrew Huberman does a podcast soon about STDs, then we'll know.

01:04:31.000 You never know.

01:04:31.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:04:32.000 All right, everybody.

01:04:33.000 Thanks so much.

01:04:34.000 Uh, have a wonderful Easter.

01:04:35.000 Uh, keep on committing thought crimes, and Tyler will be very happy.

01:04:38.000 Arizona's trailing to Clemson.

01:04:41.000 Yes, thank goodness by three points.

01:04:43.000 It's gonna be really tight.

01:04:43.000 I've been watching it.

01:04:44.000 Yeah, oh, yeah, get you a out.

01:04:46.000 God bless.

01:04:47.000 Talk to you soon.

01:04:50.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

01:04:52.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:04:54.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - March 30, 2024

THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 38 — "Christ Is King" Anti-Semitic? Diddy Did It? Andrew Huberman Hitpiece?

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