The Charlie Kirk Show - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 43 — Banning the Bible? Frat Bro Future? The Birth Dearth?

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00:02:58.000 Okay, everybody, happy Thought Crime Thursday.

00:03:00.000 Tyler's here.

00:03:01.000 No, he's not, actually.

00:03:03.000 Soon.

00:03:05.000 He's been very busy, understandably.

00:03:08.000 Blake is here.

00:03:09.000 By the way, Blake's TikTok has taken off.

00:03:11.000 Oh, dear.

00:03:12.000 It is ascendant.

00:03:14.000 By the way, you're getting a lot of dating resumes coming.

00:03:16.000 No, let's not talk about that.

00:03:18.000 Are you following up with them?

00:03:19.000 And you got some things.

00:03:20.000 That's private.

00:03:20.000 That's private information.

00:03:20.000 Just Daisy.

00:03:22.000 We got Daisy.

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00:03:25.000 Jack, are you back from Europe?

00:03:27.000 That's the real question.

00:03:29.000 100% back.

00:03:31.000 What an incredible trip.

00:03:33.000 Just hung out with like, you know, it's amazing when you're in Eastern Europe, you don't have to dodge bullets.

00:03:38.000 You don't have to dodge people.

00:03:39.000 Still Boneless just posted this video from the New York subway of this guy just unconscious and publicly urinating all over the New York City subway.

00:03:49.000 And it's amazing that videos like this just don't seem to exist anywhere in Eastern Europe at all.

00:03:56.000 So yes, civilization still does exist.

00:03:59.000 You just have to fly a little bit to get there.

00:04:00.000 Did you go to Africa?

00:04:03.000 I went to Africa.

00:04:04.000 We went to Morocco.

00:04:04.000 I did.

00:04:05.000 Okay, that is Africa.

00:04:06.000 So, what are all the places in Europe you went to?

00:04:12.000 This time around, we went to Hungary, we went to Romania, we went to Madrid, and then we had like a long layover, like a one-day layover in Morocco.

00:04:22.000 It's pretty impressive.

00:04:23.000 Have you been to Morocco?

00:04:24.000 I have not.

00:04:25.000 Did you go to Casablanca?

00:04:26.000 You know what's great about Morocco?

00:04:28.000 We went to Casablanca.

00:04:29.000 So, California said they were totally going to build a high-speed rail.

00:04:33.000 And there was some French or Japanese company that came in and was going to build it and help them.

00:04:38.000 And they wait around for a few years while California tries to get its act together.

00:04:41.000 And finally, they say, this state is never fixing itself.

00:04:44.000 We're going somewhere that's way more functional.

00:04:46.000 So they went to Morocco.

00:04:47.000 And Morocco's built this big high-speed rail line in the time span where California has still built no rail whatsoever.

00:04:53.000 Yeah, we actually asked about that when we were there.

00:04:56.000 And apparently, it doesn't go to like every city, but it's between like the two main cities.

00:05:01.000 Tyler's here.

00:05:02.000 Tyler, guys.

00:05:03.000 You were the star of our show last week.

00:05:05.000 You just were talking about it.

00:05:07.000 Tyler, let us see your facial tats.

00:05:08.000 Where are your facial tats?

00:05:10.000 I'm getting the teardrop. 0.93

00:05:12.000 Beast.

00:05:13.000 Hey, those teardrops are earned.

00:05:15.000 Teardrops are earned.

00:05:17.000 I'm going to say this is we're ready to take on whatever we need to take on here, which is, you know, this is, we're in crazy times.

00:05:27.000 Yes, we are.

00:05:28.000 We don't want to cause any more problems for Tyler because we're dealing with bad people.

00:05:31.000 Okay, let's get into the first topic.

00:05:33.000 Blake, what is it?

00:05:34.000 They're banning the Bible, Charlie.

00:05:36.000 Congress just went and they voted on a law that says if you own a Bible, if you read a Bible, if you look at a Bible, they are going to cut your head off.

00:05:45.000 That's what the law says.

00:05:46.000 Okay, I am exaggerating a bit.

00:05:48.000 I've had a very eventful day.

00:05:49.000 Oh, I believe it.

00:05:50.000 I believe it.

00:05:51.000 And so for those who haven't been following the news too much, so big picture.

00:05:57.000 There's a lot of campus protests against Israel.

00:06:00.000 A lot of them have had a very anti-Semitic flavoring to them, to say the least. 0.96

00:06:05.000 There's a lot of extremely angry liberals doing what extremely angry liberals do, which is be disgusting. 0.99

00:06:10.000 And understandably, we think those people are gross. 0.97

00:06:12.000 We're all like cheering on the cops when they decide to knock down their lame tent cities or arrest them for taking over buildings.

00:06:20.000 But the right is doing that thing where they get a good idea and then they goof up their response to it.

00:06:28.000 And so what Congress is doing, the U.S. House, is they decided to pass a bill attacking anti-Semitism.

00:06:37.000 And as is often the case with Congress, they didn't read it.

00:06:40.000 It's like the terms and conditions on your iPhone.

00:06:42.000 They just don't, you know, you just go to the bottom and click I agree.

00:06:45.000 It's H.R. 690.

00:06:47.000 H.R. 6090.

00:06:48.000 6090.

00:06:49.000 And what H.R. 6090 does is it passes a formal definition for anti-Semitism, and it instructs the Department of Education to use this definition for the purposes of enforcing civil rights law.

00:07:03.000 So we have civil rights law that say you can't discriminate on the basis of race or sex or skin color or religion and other factors if you are a school that is getting federal money.

00:07:16.000 And so what they say is, obviously, that would apply like anti-Jewish discrimination.

00:07:21.000 And so what this law is essentially saying is this is the official definition of anti-Jewish discrimination that the Department of Education should use.

00:07:29.000 And the definition that they are using is really, really broad.

00:07:33.000 It is a definition created by a group called the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance, and it's called the Working Definition of Anti-Semitism.

00:07:44.000 And this working definition of anti-Semitism, it includes some things we would all agree both are anti-Semitic and should not be allowed.

00:07:52.000 Like you can't, like, it includes assisting in violence against Jewish people.

00:07:56.000 That's already illegal.

00:07:57.000 Of course, that's already illegal.

00:07:59.000 That's part of it.

00:07:59.000 It's state, local, and federal crimes.

00:08:01.000 So it's one of these things where why do you need to pass it except to expand it?

00:08:04.000 But other definitions that are included here as examples.

00:08:08.000 And this law, what it does is it says it includes the definition and the examples that this group has given that you should look towards.

00:08:16.000 And so, for example, one of them is claiming that the existence of a state of Israel is a racist endeavor, which some people say because it's a country that defines itself as Jewish.

00:08:28.000 It gives citizenship to Jewish people automatically, but not other groups of people.

00:08:32.000 So it's a group that's a state that defines itself by a particular nationality.

00:08:37.000 So they'll say that's racist.

00:08:39.000 Or they'll say, drawing comparisons between contemporary Israeli policy and that of the Nazis.

00:08:44.000 As Michael Knowles explained on our show, no one knows how to compare any bad thing or thing they say is bad to anything except the Nazis.

00:08:51.000 It is the Godwin's law.

00:08:53.000 Everything gets compared to the Nazis.

00:08:56.000 But now they're saying that is anti-Semitic.

00:08:59.000 And so what that means is if a school, like if a professor at a school does this, or if a group at a school does this and doesn't get punished, or if employees of a school are doing this, it would apparently violate civil rights law.

00:09:12.000 And then the government can come in and sue you, or they have to have lawsuits go your way, go towards someone if they sue over this.

00:09:20.000 And it just adds to the arsenal of things the federal government can do to mess with you.

00:09:25.000 So first, let's play the law's author, Bill's author, which actually has more.

00:09:32.000 There's a lot of updates around this, and we covered it earlier today.

00:09:35.000 There's a lot of updates here.

00:09:36.000 This is Mike Lawler, moderate from New York Republican.

00:09:39.000 It is his bill, Play Cut 102.

00:09:42.000 Hey, everyone, it's Congressman Mike Lawler.

00:09:44.000 I just want to say how proud I am that my bill, the Anti-Semitism Awareness Act, just passed the House of Representatives 320 votes to 91.

00:09:55.000 This bill has broad bipartisan support and will begin the process of cracking down on the anti-Semitism that we've seen run rampant on college campuses all across America.

00:10:07.000 This is a big day and a big win.

00:10:10.000 Now we've got to get it through the Senate and signed into law.

00:10:13.000 I look forward to working to get this across the finish line.

00:10:16.000 There's so much wrong with this.

00:10:17.000 First of all, if you really want to get to the core of anti-Semitism, defund the colleges.

00:10:21.000 That's a separate issue.

00:10:22.000 Secondly, why is Congress in the business of policing speech?

00:10:25.000 But I want to just get to two elements here.

00:10:27.000 The first of which is that I started to call out a lot of lawmakers on this.

00:10:32.000 And their response was like, oh, the Senate's not going to pass it was a show vote.

00:10:37.000 We now have intel from two U.S. Senators.

00:10:40.000 Chuck Schumer is accelerating this to the Senate floor.

00:10:43.000 That he is now top priority for the Senate.

00:10:46.000 So all the Republicans that voted for it, they did not read this.

00:10:49.000 I could tell you after a whole day of talking to several lawmakers, they did not read this.

00:10:54.000 Third element, Eli Crane has come out publicly and privately, right?

00:10:58.000 He met with Mike Johnson right before this passed.

00:11:01.000 He was like, bro, like, I know we're not on great terms.

00:11:04.000 There's a huge problem in this bill.

00:11:05.000 Can we get it fixed?

00:11:06.000 Like, he went with three other congressmen.

00:11:08.000 That's right.

00:11:09.000 And he was like, yo, I totally understand a show vote.

00:11:12.000 We understand.

00:11:13.000 In Congress, there are show votes.

00:11:14.000 It's just the way it is.

00:11:15.000 Show vote.

00:11:16.000 Like, resolutions are for that more than laws.

00:11:18.000 And Speaker Johnson took it and was like, yep, good, we'll fix it.

00:11:24.000 And he said, we'll fix it.

00:11:25.000 And he put it exactly as it's worded.

00:11:28.000 So Speaker Johnson literally didn't listen to anything.

00:11:31.000 So what is the main contention here?

00:11:33.000 So it's all the stuff we had, you know, listed above, that's already bad because it's like, okay, you can't criticize the Israeli government.

00:11:41.000 Even if that's a bad criticism, we don't need a ban on criticizing a foreign country.

00:11:46.000 But one of the things that's in it is it says it mentions images associated with classic anti-Semitism, e.g., for example, claims of Jews killing Jesus.

00:11:58.000 So I want to get into this.

00:11:59.000 So I talked to a very smart man who likes this bill, and he's a good friend.

00:12:04.000 I'm not going to say who it is, but he's very well studied, PhD, all that stuff.

00:12:07.000 And he didn't like my tweet where I asked the question.

00:12:10.000 And we actually came to a great agreement on the phone call, where he said, Charlie, read the text over and over again.

00:12:15.000 So let's read the text again.

00:12:17.000 Using the symbols and images associated with classic anti-Semitism, for example, claims of Jews killing Jesus or blood libel to characterize Israel or Israelis.

00:12:25.000 So he says this is essentially group guilting all current Israeli citizens for the death of Jesus.

00:12:31.000 I said, that's not what it says, though.

00:12:33.000 And what I was able, I think, to come to some common ground with is I said, can you point to a time where the federal government has a statute where they do not pervert or contort what is on the laws of the books that come after the faithful?

00:12:45.000 And I think the best example of this in modern times is Douglas Mackey.

00:12:49.000 Look how Douglas Mackey is facing federal prison time for making a meme in the 2016 election.

00:12:55.000 I mean the Ku Klux Klan Act. 0.57

00:12:56.000 It's a bingo, but that's important, though, because the anti-Semitism app sound act sounds popular. 0.74

00:13:01.000 Maybe 20 years from now, some Christian who's preaching 1 Thessalonians 2.14 is going to have his home rated. 0.96

00:13:09.000 So I want to just say this, first of all, this was a show vote, and Mike Johnson screwed up a show vote.

00:13:14.000 Here's usually what you do with a show vote.

00:13:16.000 No teeth.

00:13:17.000 We therefore say that anti-Semitism is wrong and bad and we're going to establish a committee to look into it.

00:13:23.000 Totally okay with that.

00:13:24.000 I'm going to go further.

00:13:25.000 I'm not okay with that. 1.00

00:13:26.000 Show votes are dumb. 0.99

00:13:27.000 Why did you have a question? 1.00

00:13:28.000 Well, we have 300 days in session over the course of a Congress.

00:13:32.000 But we wouldn't go to the center of the city.

00:13:32.000 Fair enough.

00:13:33.000 And you spent one of them on this?

00:13:34.000 We wouldn't go nuclear over a show vote.

00:13:35.000 Okay, sure.

00:13:37.000 I'm with Blake on this.

00:13:38.000 I think it's like the wasted time stuff is like, why are we doing wasted time stuff?

00:13:43.000 Let me just kind of just say, their defense, some of them, is, hey, you know, there's a lot of moderate members that wanted this.

00:13:49.000 No harm done.

00:13:49.000 It's a show vote.

00:13:50.000 No, no, no.

00:13:50.000 There actually is now harm done.

00:13:52.000 And so Senator Roger Marshall, I'm going to get Jack in this in a second from Kansas, has now tweeted out this, which is remarkable, which, by the way, goes to show the power of our program in social media.

00:14:01.000 He says, the Holy Bible is the word of God.

00:14:03.000 I believe in the sanctity of Scripture, and no person should change or alter those words.

00:14:09.000 If this bill comes to the Senate floor as is, we will offer an amendment to honor the sanctity of scripture.

00:14:15.000 By the way, thank you, Senator Marshall, for that very clear tweet.

00:14:18.000 I wish they would have read the bill before they actually passed it.

00:14:22.000 Jack, I want to loop you in on this.

00:14:23.000 Jack, it seems as if this also could be an indirect hit towards Vatican I Catholics.

00:14:30.000 Jack, do you sense what I'm saying here, and can you kind of take it from there?

00:14:34.000 Yeah.

00:14:35.000 Yeah, so pre-Vatican I, there were continuous, and you still hear this in some TLM or traditional masses within the Catholic Church.

00:14:44.000 And not to get super into it, so Vatican I, or which there is no Vatican I, but it's like pre-Vatican II, so pre-1960s, you would hear in a lot of Catholic churches the prayer for the conversion of the Jews, the prayer for the conversion of the Jews.

00:14:58.000 And so this would be a basic statement that the Jews rejected Jesus.

00:15:03.000 This led to the crucifixion and the death of Christ.

00:15:07.000 And then this is also something that Catholics pray for.

00:15:10.000 And specifically, by the way, the conversion of the unfaithful Jews. 0.99

00:15:15.000 And this was a common and regular, just regular prayer.

00:15:19.000 And by the way, there was also a prayer for the conversion of pagans as well.

00:15:23.000 And so let's say now that you're the FBI, which is already, as we know, using, I'm not even actually sure what justification they're using, but they're claiming potential for radical extremist plots in order to infiltrate using federal assets and informants into traditional Latin Mass churches and traditional Latin Mass services.

00:15:48.000 Now, all of a sudden, you've got a new law that says, oh, perhaps we can shut down your church if we catch you praying this specific prayer, which, by the way, all Christians continuously pray for the conversion of everyone to Christ.

00:16:02.000 That's sort of a basic tenet of Christianity.

00:16:05.000 But if you use the wrong words, now the federal government can go after you?

00:16:10.000 And so let's continue in here.

00:16:10.000 Evidently.

00:16:12.000 So if you go, the definition gets worse and worse.

00:16:17.000 And there's been a lot of emphasis, rightfully so, on the biblical part of this. 0.99

00:16:20.000 But let's just talk to another one of here.

00:16:24.000 If you now say that Jews are more loyal to Israel than to the priorities of Jews worldwide, then you're an anti-Semite.

00:16:35.000 But I'm trying to understand, what if there's an Israeli citizen that is visiting America and is not an American citizen?

00:16:41.000 Are you not allowed to say that?

00:16:42.000 Or like, there are people in America who have been arrested and thrown in prison for spying on the U.S. on behalf of Israel.

00:16:48.000 Like, I'm sorry.

00:16:50.000 It is a fact of life.

00:16:50.000 This happens with other countries.

00:16:52.000 There are Chinese people who come to America and they are more loyal to China.

00:16:57.000 It's unfortunate.

00:16:58.000 This is a real phenomenon.

00:17:00.000 And to just say, like, categorically, you can't utter it or you'll be sued and you'll like get punished by the federal government, that's insane.

00:17:08.000 It might be hurtful to say that to like a lot of random people, which is a thing that's done.

00:17:13.000 It's not, it's an ugly behavior to do.

00:17:15.000 But to say that it's illegal or you're going to use the full force of the government.

00:17:20.000 And I could just see how this is going to work.

00:17:22.000 So now you have, let's just take Wyoming Catholic College, okay?

00:17:27.000 Which is a really solid Catholic school.

00:17:29.000 They haven't gone woke.

00:17:30.000 Are they now going to get a letter from the Department of Education in the next year, five years, 10 years, where they're like, hey, can we see your missiles?

00:17:40.000 Can we see what you're teaching in regards to, are you reciting hate speech in your liturgical...

00:17:47.000 Well, it doesn't even have to happen next year.

00:17:48.000 What if it happens in 20 years?

00:17:50.000 That's the point of the KKK Act, is that they'll pass this stuff, put it on the shelf, and they'll dust it off. 0.54

00:17:57.000 More laws, the less justice.

00:17:59.000 And we need to take a step back.

00:18:00.000 Hate speech is not a thing.

00:18:02.000 There's ugly speech, there's gross speech, but hate speech is a term that is inherently subjective.

00:18:08.000 And the First Amendment protects all speech that doesn't call for violence.

00:18:11.000 And honestly, outside of one of these examples on the International Holocaust Museum, which by the way, memories, I'm sure they do great work, is like not, like, the first one is this.

00:18:22.000 If you call for the killing of Jews, that is direct incitement of violence.

00:18:27.000 No one should support that. 0.96

00:18:28.000 But then you go to the third entry point, accusing Jews as a people, sorry, accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel or the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide.

00:18:28.000 Okay.

00:18:37.000 Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation.

00:18:37.000 How about this one?

00:18:43.000 What does that even mean?

00:18:44.000 Referring to Israel.

00:18:45.000 They'll always say Israel's held to a double standard, that they're expected to do things with regard to Palestine that the U.S. isn't expected to do, or China or Russia or any other country.

00:18:55.000 They're not expected to do these things.

00:18:57.000 So they say they're subject to a double standard.

00:19:00.000 Maybe true.

00:19:01.000 But again, you are now saying the federal government is going to police that people don't have the wrong opinions about a foreign government.

00:19:11.000 So Tyler, help me understand the politics of this.

00:19:14.000 Mike Johnson, who is, he's up against the wall right now.

00:19:18.000 He has to get Democrats to bail him out.

00:19:20.000 He's facing a motion to vacate.

00:19:22.000 The guy is not, his popularity has gone by 20 points.

00:19:25.000 And he thinks it's a good idea to do this.

00:19:28.000 Did he read the bill?

00:19:29.000 Did Mike Johnson read the bill?

00:19:30.000 This is jumping the shark for sure.

00:19:32.000 Like, if there is a classic classical definition of, like, trying to jump the shark.

00:19:38.000 And this is what I think, for those of our younger audience that don't know the jumping the shark reference, it was at the end of happy days.

00:19:46.000 Again, this is American history, right?

00:19:49.000 They put Fonzie on water skis and had him jump over a fake shark on the thing.

00:19:54.000 That's where the term comes from.

00:19:56.000 This is, I think, and this is what starts happening when you get desperate.

00:19:59.000 You start doing weird stuff that you think is going to end up making you more popular and more protected.

00:20:05.000 That's actually the opposite.

00:20:06.000 It has the opposite effect, where it's like, actually, people are now looking at you even more.

00:20:11.000 And I'm afraid now we've drawn more attention to him.

00:20:15.000 The people who wanted to remove him as speaker to begin with are now more upset, right?

00:20:20.000 So now this isn't helping at all.

00:20:21.000 Like, why can't we just come together and do things that are going to be like, bring the Republican caucus together?

00:20:26.000 I don't know.

00:20:27.000 Things that like our populists that are going to help us in the general election in 2024.

00:20:32.000 I don't know.

00:20:33.000 This does not appear to do those things.

00:20:35.000 And ironically, if you read the Babylonian Talmud, it says the idea that Jews killed Jesus is also found in Jewish religious literature.

00:20:45.000 Did you know this?

00:20:46.000 It's according to myjewishlearning.com.

00:20:48.000 Now, I'm just saying.

00:20:49.000 Maybe I'm like really.

00:20:50.000 Did they cell phone where now you're not allowed to read from the Talmud?

00:20:54.000 I'm just saying, like, if in Jewish folk literature, it says right here, again, this is myjewishlearning.com, a teaching from year before 300 asserts that Jesus was put to death by a Jewish court for the crimes of sorcery and sedition.

00:21:07.000 In standard texts of the Talmud from Eastern Europe or an American text that's simply copied from them, there's a blank space towards the bottom of that folio because it's potentially offensive text was removed.

00:21:15.000 The censorship may have been internal for self-protection or may have been imposed on the Jews by Christian authorities.

00:21:20.000 In many new editions, in the Talmud, this passage has been restored.

00:21:24.000 The Talmud's claim was that there was an event that took place on the eve of Passover is consistent with the chronology of the Gospel of John.

00:21:29.000 In the Talmudic account, the Romans played no role in the death.

00:21:33.000 I mean, even in the Bible, like what it essentially is, is they accuse him of blasphemy, and then they go to the Romans and they say he's a blasphemer, and Pontius Pilate says, I don't care.

00:21:44.000 And they say, well, he's also undermining Caesar.

00:21:47.000 And he's still kind of like, eh, that's sus.

00:21:50.000 But then they basically say, you might get executed.

00:21:53.000 And they kind of throw a temper tantrum.

00:21:55.000 And so he washes his hands of it as it were.

00:21:58.000 That's right.

00:21:59.000 And they say, give us Barabbas.

00:22:01.000 Give us Barabbas.

00:22:02.000 You know what that means in Greek?

00:22:03.000 I believe it means the son of man or the son of God, Abba, Father.

00:22:07.000 I have to look that up.

00:22:08.000 What does Barabbas mean in Greek?

00:22:11.000 Let me see.

00:22:12.000 Son of the master, son of the father.

00:22:13.000 Yeah.

00:22:14.000 I was right.

00:22:14.000 Yeah, and so it's almost, again, the Bible thing stands out, but we do need to emphasize, you can't fix the Bible part.

00:22:23.000 You can't just throw in the religious scripture as protected here and make this bill good.

00:22:27.000 This is still a bill that goes way too far. 0.81

00:22:30.000 And what's sad about it, big picture, is this issue should be a huge winner for us because you have obnoxious, left-wing, violent jerkwad students at Columbia basically rioting to support a terrorist group. 0.97

00:22:46.000 And their main opponents are a bunch of jerkwad academia heads who are also terrible. 0.96

00:22:53.000 And we basically could just watch, watch them rip each other to shreds and then send in the cops if they get too violent and like arrest some people. 0.96

00:23:00.000 I want to get jack in on this.

00:23:01.000 Jack, if there was ever a time for us to be lazy and do nothing, we should have just took like the week off.

00:23:05.000 Like if there's ever a time for them to like take a break, Mike Johnson should be like, just go home to your districts.

00:23:10.000 Like just go home.

00:23:12.000 It's, I mean, so there's in funny enough, in ancient China, okay, they used to have this belief called Wu Wei, and it just, it sort of means do nothing.

00:23:26.000 And this kind of came about like in the 13th century when the Chinese dynasties were pretty much running all of Asia.

00:23:32.000 And they were pretty much the top of the heap when it came to Asian cultures.

00:23:36.000 And so the idea was we've got the empire right where we want it.

00:23:40.000 So just do nothing.

00:23:41.000 Don't make any big moves and we'll stay winning.

00:23:44.000 And this was pretty much fine until the British showed up with their gunboats.

00:23:47.000 And this is kind of, then the Chinese also have this other ancient saying.

00:23:54.000 Don't interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake.

00:23:57.000 The worst possible thing you could do, total break of rules with radicals, total break of the basics of information warfare, is that if your enemy is fighting your other enemy and themselves, essentially, if the snake that you are fighting is eating its own tail, don't step in and try to save the snake.

00:24:15.000 And what you're doing is, and what the Republicans have done here, is they've committed a massive strategic blunder, as usual, where they're moving the focus of attention away from the protests and onto themselves.

00:24:29.000 Now, fortunately for the Republicans, these protests, which have descended into riots at this point, are so incredibly violent that it's kind of hard for the media to get away from it.

00:24:39.000 And even like local media and mainstream media are broadcasting these images.

00:24:44.000 And so humans are visual creatures.

00:24:47.000 We are going to remember these images.

00:24:49.000 It's a complete and massive optics fail for the Democrats, normies, centrists, independents.

00:24:54.000 Everyone is turning against this thing.

00:24:57.000 Which, by the way, if you're actually for the people of Gaza, it's probably not a good thing for you because this is just going to help the Israelis with their public opinion because people are going to say, I don't want to be involved with the guys supporting these protests.

00:25:13.000 And so it's ridiculous to me that never bet against the Republicans when it comes to snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

00:25:23.000 But that's exactly what they've done here.

00:25:25.000 Massive goal.

00:25:26.000 Well, and I want to bring this point up too, because it's like, this is, maybe I'm just super innocent, but this whole thing is just like so.

00:25:35.000 Tyler's the most innocent in the world, ladies and gentlemen.

00:25:39.000 Astounding to me is this entire thing about, you know, taking such offense that, you know, the Jewish population was not a big fan of Jesus and that they were responsible for his death.

00:25:52.000 It wasn't just him, but it was the apostles they ran out after they crucified Jesus.

00:25:59.000 Big time.

00:25:59.000 Yeah, they ran him all over.

00:26:01.000 But James was killed.

00:26:04.000 They had brought him forward to die.

00:26:07.000 And then that's what made all the 12 apostles disperse.

00:26:11.000 They left because they literally murdered James then after the crucifixion of Jesus. 0.68

00:26:17.000 So like, again, I think there's like a certain sensitivity, I understand, around, you know, Christian-Jewish relations around the topic of Jesus and the events that happened around that.

00:26:32.000 But like, again, saying these things, and to your point back, Charlie, is like, you come into this whole thing.

00:26:39.000 I'm just like so astounded that this is, I don't think the average person walking on the street would be offended by any of that conversation.

00:26:50.000 But now that that makes you a target by the government is one of the scariest things ever that you could ever probably, you know, put into writing.

00:26:58.000 I get frustrated because when you think of the big picture of how did this come about, and it's that it's like it's like we have bad ideological formation on high-level Republicans because they can't, they haven't had the process thought of, yeah, we've been defending free speech for the last six years.

00:27:18.000 You know, we've been worried about censorship online.

00:27:21.000 We've been worried about censorship on campus.

00:27:23.000 We've been worried about Democrats wanting to roll back all these speech things and putting our guys in jail.

00:27:28.000 And then, you know, the neurons didn't fire right when this came up to go, like, wait, now we restrict speech.

00:27:36.000 That now, good.

00:27:38.000 What?

00:27:39.000 Why didn't you this come together for?

00:27:42.000 Where have you been this whole time?

00:27:43.000 Yes.

00:27:44.000 Like, what have you guys not learned?

00:27:45.000 Get it.

00:27:46.000 Oh, process.

00:27:47.000 Yeah, and they constantly talk a good game on campus free speech.

00:27:51.000 You're like, well, not actually, not all speech.

00:27:53.000 That's what they're saying.

00:27:54.000 Yes.

00:27:55.000 And just, oh, suddenly we came up with this thing.

00:27:57.000 Oh, we're going to roll back speech really bad. 0.99

00:27:59.000 And what stinks is I can kind of tell like they just are being dumb and they'll figure it out. 0.97

00:28:05.000 But imagine you're one of the centrists that we're trying to win over. 1.00

00:28:10.000 I think a lot of those people will look and say, the Republicans are full of crap. 1.00

00:28:13.000 They're just huge hypocrites. 1.00

00:28:15.000 They never cared about this in the first place. 0.99

00:28:16.000 And the answer is a lot of people like us do care about it.

00:28:19.000 And I think even a lot of those guys care about it. 1.00

00:28:21.000 And they're just, they're dumb and kind of weak and they don't pay attention. 1.00

00:28:27.000 And they thought they could get an easy win. 1.00

00:28:30.000 And this is another problem I think a lot of the right has is they always want to just go for some easy win that doesn't really require doing much of anything. 0.99

00:28:38.000 And so this guy came along and said, oh, Democrats are being dumb. 0.93

00:28:42.000 We can just pass this five-page bill and it'll show that we're totally way better than the left. 0.99

00:28:47.000 And now all of the Jews will vote for Trump this fall and it'll be great. 1.00

00:28:52.000 And just, no.

00:28:53.000 No, it doesn't work.

00:28:54.000 And that's what Schumer calls the bluff and is going to put into law.

00:28:57.000 Yeah, but Charlie, like, this is what I don't understand.

00:28:59.000 This is like what I really do not get.

00:29:02.000 It's like, I totally expect this out of like a lawler, right?

00:29:05.000 And out of the New York Republican to like come up with this idea.

00:29:08.000 Right.

00:29:08.000 Yeah.

00:29:08.000 This is like a very standard like New York Republican idea, right?

00:29:13.000 Yeah, let's censor our opponents.

00:29:16.000 It's just like, it's just like, you know, try to score points, you know, and whatever.

00:29:21.000 And I totally get the arguments and all that.

00:29:23.000 Like Republicans are winning over Jews in big numbers. 0.95

00:29:27.000 And so I understand getting like easy wins politically, even if they're cheap wins.

00:29:32.000 Like that's what the, that's like the New York Republican Party's like whole like mantra right now.

00:29:36.000 But like Speaker Mike Johnson is literally a Baptist out of Louisiana. 0.78

00:29:42.000 Southern Baptist.

00:29:42.000 Yep.

00:29:42.000 He's a Southern Baptist.

00:29:44.000 Like how are you not like pausing for a moment, like calling like your own people?

00:29:48.000 No, but they're amazing.

00:29:51.000 He was warned by Eli Crane and others and fixed this.

00:29:56.000 He's like, Eli Crane's not like the Baptist extraordinarily. 0.90

00:30:00.000 I don't know his religion.

00:30:02.000 There's no rush.

00:30:03.000 This isn't that the government shuts down unless you ban portions of the Bible.

00:30:07.000 Yeah, but does he have a religious leader that he looks to that he can pick up the phone and be like, hey.

00:30:11.000 Well, no, that's the thing.

00:30:12.000 Imagine congressman brought me this.

00:30:13.000 How do you think you would feel?

00:30:15.000 A lot of pastors have been calling me saying they love this bill.

00:30:17.000 Are you kidding?

00:30:18.000 Really?

00:30:20.000 Why?

00:30:21.000 Like Baptists? 1.00

00:30:22.000 Just all across the spectrum, man.

00:30:24.000 They think it's great.

00:30:24.000 They think that we have to protect the Jews, and if it means forsaking free speech, so be it.

00:30:28.000 Not all, but some.

00:30:29.000 I've gotten 10 or 12 pretty.

00:30:31.000 Forsaking the Bible?

00:30:34.000 They say that's never going to happen, that it's misreading it.

00:30:37.000 The devil's advocate is that the Bible is constitutionally protected, and you can't, you know. 0.75

00:30:44.000 Wait, I just saw these same guys.

00:30:45.000 Is it the same guys that got mad about the Trump Bible?

00:30:48.000 No, it's separate ones.

00:30:50.000 But I will say this, though.

00:30:51.000 My argument to them is, wait, are memes constitutionally protected?

00:30:54.000 Because Douglas Mackey's going to jail for creating a political meme during an election campaign, dusting off 150-year-old law.

00:31:00.000 So don't give me this, like, the courts are going to save us in the end because the law is sloppily written.

00:31:05.000 They're not.

00:31:06.000 Right?

00:31:06.000 I think that is so insane, right?

00:31:09.000 I think it's shallow.

00:31:10.000 It is.

00:31:11.000 And by the way, no one.

00:31:12.000 The 14th Amendment says we all get equal protection under the law.

00:31:16.000 And then they just went and made it so you could discriminate against white people for the last 50 years.

00:31:20.000 And the courts haven't stopped that.

00:31:23.000 Yeah, I think.

00:31:24.000 We can trust the law.

00:31:25.000 Laws will never be abused against conservatives.

00:31:28.000 Especially the D.C.

00:31:29.000 Well, no, I just, and I will say that there has been, this is very interesting, and I have to get to one of our partners here.

00:31:36.000 The support amongst the conservative movement, amongst influencers, Glenn Beck, Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh, it's been pretty unanimous.

00:31:45.000 There's very few people that are saying, like, this is a great idea.

00:31:48.000 And I think we set the tone on that pretty early.

00:31:51.000 It was like Matt Walsh and us out of the gate, and all of a sudden people read the bill.

00:31:56.000 They're like, yeah, this is crazy.

00:31:57.000 Because again, show votes happen all the time.

00:31:59.000 They're nothing.

00:31:59.000 They just kind of cast them aside.

00:32:01.000 This one is not a show vote.

00:32:02.000 This is real teeth.

00:32:03.000 And Schumer is like, oh, okay.

00:32:05.000 And now it just stinks because either wants to do it. 0.94

00:32:08.000 They're going to pass this crappy law. 0.90

00:32:09.000 Which they might. 0.98

00:32:10.000 Or they'll back off and the Democrats will spin it to make Republicans look like they don't care. 1.00

00:32:16.000 They're dumb. 1.00

00:32:16.000 The Senate is anti-Semitic. 1.00

00:32:19.000 They can do all sorts of silly stuff with it. 0.98

00:32:21.000 Yeah, it's just the whole thing is just so poorly concocted.

00:32:24.000 And I think, Blake, you make a great point here.

00:32:26.000 What's the rush?

00:32:27.000 Why couldn't Mike Johnson just be like, let's wait a week?

00:32:30.000 Let me make some calls, read this out.

00:32:32.000 Let's kind of look at all the potential attacks here.

00:32:35.000 No, and by the way, this is very important.

00:32:37.000 Most bills, 90% of all bills, go through a committee process.

00:32:41.000 Do you know this didn't go through committee markup?

00:32:44.000 Of course it didn't.

00:32:44.000 Mike Johnson bypassed the committee process.

00:32:47.000 In a committee where bills usually become law, someone would have said, wait a second, this doesn't seem right.

00:32:53.000 And you debate and you go through it.

00:32:56.000 They just said, no, this is so important.

00:32:58.000 This is so urgent that we're going to just throw this on the House floor and give Joe Biden's Department of Education the ability.

00:33:04.000 No reading time.

00:33:08.000 And the ones who did.

00:33:09.000 And he also promised 72 hours.

00:33:10.000 Mike Johnson broke another yet promise, which again is a theme.

00:33:13.000 Remember when Mike Johnson said, I'm going to restore the 72-hour rule?

00:33:16.000 Members literally had like six hours to read this and to think about it and call experts on it.

00:33:21.000 He just pulled those.

00:33:22.000 Does the Bible say anything?

00:33:23.000 And then they still showed up.

00:33:24.000 Does the Bible say anything about like promises and telling the truth?

00:33:28.000 Well, you have to look beyond the decalogue, do not give false witness or false testimony.

00:33:34.000 And so here's the other thing.

00:33:35.000 By the way, that's just like a repetition with Mike Johnson.

00:33:37.000 It's one, two, three, four.

00:33:39.000 And then all the Republicans who then oppose that now have to come out and give statements.

00:33:43.000 So now they're wasting time putting out statements about how why they didn't vote on it, what they had to do.

00:33:50.000 Can we not have our Republicans working on things that we need to get done?

00:33:52.000 How about, like, I don't know, the border?

00:33:54.000 Yeah, like, can we not just do things that are helpful?

00:33:56.000 But, you know, it's really interesting.

00:33:58.000 This is such a good conversation.

00:34:01.000 The media, the way they've been covering it, you would anticipate Republicans are anti-Semitic.

00:34:07.000 The headlines have actually been largely sympathetic to our argument, believe it or not.

00:34:11.000 The New York Times, like, I mean, if you just look at it, you look at some of the articles, they're kind of saying, like, right-wingers caution about this bill that is really poorly written.

00:34:21.000 It's like the New York Times article, you're like, that's not like a normal New York Times article at all.

00:34:27.000 They don't know what to do because the radical progressives hate it for obvious reasons.

00:34:33.000 For obvious reasons.

00:34:35.000 They want to use it to attack Mike Johnson to divide us more.

00:34:40.000 It's like, again, this is the political, you know, textbook political stuff that is like bad leadership.

00:34:47.000 This is.

00:34:48.000 So, for example, Newsweek says Republicans voting for a bill that could make Bible illegal outrages MAGA.

00:34:53.000 Raw story, which is super left-wing.

00:34:55.000 Fix this.

00:34:56.000 House Republicans spread theory.

00:34:58.000 Mike Johnson just outlawed the New Testament.

00:35:01.000 No, this is my favorite.

00:35:02.000 New York Times.

00:35:02.000 Bill to combat anti-Semitism on campus prompts backlash from the right.

00:35:07.000 Pretty fairly, I mean, like.

00:35:09.000 That's pretty straight up.

00:35:10.000 The usual headlines would be the rights dissent into like Jew hatred. 0.82

00:35:14.000 It's like Christian nationalism.

00:35:17.000 No, exactly. 0.93

00:35:18.000 Christian nationalism rears its ugly head in opposition to the Jewish bill.

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00:36:37.000 Let's just summarize this topic.

00:36:38.000 It's such a good one.

00:36:38.000 There's so much meat on this bone still.

00:36:40.000 Do you have a thought, Blake?

00:36:41.000 It's just what I would urge all conservatives, especially nominal conservatives in Congress to do, is to remember that as conservatives, we care about ideas, we care about principles, and we care about the actual text of the Constitution for reasons above, like as a vehicle to obtain power.

00:37:03.000 We actually like the Bill of Rights.

00:37:05.000 So if someone says, yo, this bill might violate the Bill of Rights, you should at least take them seriously and read the text of the bill, especially if it's only five pages long.

00:37:18.000 So James Lindsay, who's a great friend, says this.

00:37:20.000 IDK who needs to hear this, but House Republicans did not just vote to make the New Testament illegal, but we're going to watch a lot of people get radicalized to believe they did.

00:37:27.000 How should you respond to that, Blake?

00:37:29.000 I think there's this weird desire to downplay this when it's just obviously a bad bill.

00:37:36.000 And is it likely that the worst possible outcomes will come to pass?

00:37:41.000 No.

00:37:42.000 Is there a risk?

00:37:43.000 Does it make it easier for those bad outcomes to come to pass?

00:37:46.000 Yes.

00:37:47.000 And does it produce literally any upside otherwise?

00:37:50.000 No.

00:37:51.000 The best case scenario that they are selling us on then is that this is a symbolic bill.

00:37:56.000 You should never, one, I don't think you should pass symbolic bills generally, but two, if you are, it should have a giant sign up top that says, this is purely symbolic.

00:38:06.000 That's what resolves nothing.

00:38:07.000 By the way, that's what resolutions are.

00:38:08.000 That's what you have resolutions for.

00:38:09.000 Yes.

00:38:10.000 A resolution has no teeth, by definition.

00:38:12.000 You resolve to make a statement.

00:38:14.000 I think the outcome is most likely what you said, Charlie, which is like, this is going to be ugly way later on.

00:38:21.000 Yes, so they'll put it into law, and then 10 years from now, it'll just be used on the shelf.

00:38:27.000 Oh, we have that thing because more laws, the less justice.

00:38:30.000 They control who enforces the law.

00:38:32.000 So they find someone who breaks it and go.

00:38:34.000 Yeah, but we like to use Canada as an example of bad things that can happen.

00:38:37.000 So in the 1980s, Canada passed their kind of new constitution, Charter of Rights and Freedoms, I think they call it.

00:38:43.000 And I'm sure when they passed that, everyone was told this will not have any of those extreme outcomes you worry about.

00:38:49.000 And in the early 2000s, they started using it to sue and prosecute pastors who opposed gay marriage and such.

00:38:57.000 Like if they read verses, publicly read verses from the Bible that condemned homosexuality, they got in trouble.

00:39:03.000 They were prohibited on distributing literature or preaching.

00:39:06.000 And that's just a great example to go to of thing that was definitely never ever going to happen happened, and it just took 20 years.

00:39:13.000 So what's America going to be like in 20 years?

00:39:15.000 If you don't know, don't pass laws that can be used by those people.

00:39:18.000 Well, here's what I do know: is if the Democrats take over the presidency, they take over the Senate and they take over the House, we're going to see things that are so ugly with the demolition of the Constitution.

00:39:35.000 And all of these things are going to be used against that.

00:39:38.000 And we talk about this all the time with PPP stuff.

00:39:41.000 Conservatives who took PPP money, I think they're going to have to live with that for the rest of their lives.

00:39:46.000 Literally, the Democrats are going to come after them.

00:39:48.000 Democrats will come after you for every little thing, every large thing, and they're going to destroy the Constitution in the meantime. 0.97

00:39:55.000 Because also, one of the benefits from going after people with a little stupid stuff like this is that they can do big things in the background because our eyes taken off the bar. 0.97

00:40:05.000 They've sidelined our biggest voices. 0.98

00:40:07.000 Okay, let's get to the next topic here.

00:40:09.000 The good news coming from campus is frat boys, apparently.

00:40:14.000 We have predicted that it is young men radicalized.

00:40:18.000 We've also witnessed it.

00:40:20.000 We've witnessed it.

00:40:21.000 We've seen, we've been telling you, Tyler, for a while, young men.

00:40:24.000 Big turning point action energy here.

00:40:26.000 If you're a 20-year-old young man today, you've spent your entire life basically being told all of America's problems are your fault. 0.98

00:40:34.000 You're the worst thing in the world. 1.00

00:40:35.000 You're an idiot in every single ad if you're allowed in an ad at all. 1.00

00:40:39.000 You're the villain of every movie. 1.00

00:40:41.000 You're the villain of history. 1.00

00:40:43.000 Like, you have to read all these books that just say you're the biggest piece of crap in the world. 1.00

00:40:47.000 And it seems that it's finally boiled over. 1.00

00:40:50.000 And we have young guys who are tired of being yelled at all the time.

00:40:55.000 And they're doing, I don't know if we want to call it brave stuff, but it's very entertaining stuff.

00:41:02.000 Public.

00:41:02.000 And so we saw this recently right here at ASU where the frat boys were employed to help clean out the attempted tent city to protest.

00:41:02.000 Yes.

00:41:13.000 And then we also had this very viral story.

00:41:16.000 We have a clip from Fox News reporting on it.

00:41:19.000 Let's play clip number 87.

00:41:21.000 One point yesterday in the quad, that flag was taken down and replaced by a Palestinian flag.

00:41:29.000 And it was surrounded by, it looked like about 100 of the pro-Palestinian activists.

00:41:35.000 Well, shortly after that, the cops came in and they cleared those people out and they took down the flag and they put up old glory just as it had been.

00:41:48.000 And look what happened.

00:42:23.000 It's amazing.

00:42:24.000 And that's in North Carolina.

00:42:26.000 So I want to just say this.

00:42:26.000 And Twin State.

00:42:27.000 We have been traveling the country, and Tyler knows this.

00:42:30.000 When I do these prove-me-wrong events, thousands of young frat boys will show up.

00:42:34.000 They love our content.

00:42:35.000 They love Turning Point USA.

00:42:36.000 And I'm telling you, on the Turning Point Action side, we're going to have some big announcements in the fall, right, Tyler?

00:42:40.000 We're going to be having ballot, bring your ballot events with frat boys marching people with ballots in the midst of October in Arizona and in Wisconsin and in Michigan to get that frat boy energy.

00:42:52.000 Literally, we have ideas because it's 75 feet.

00:42:55.000 You can't campaign with a 75-feet perimeter.

00:42:56.000 Is that right?

00:42:57.000 Of a polling place.

00:42:58.000 Of a polling place?

00:42:58.000 Or a drop box, right?

00:43:00.000 Yeah.

00:43:01.000 So we're going to draw like, you know, 100 feet outside of the drop box and we'll just have an event with like a bunch of young alpha men at ASU and be like, hey, come get a picture of Charlie or Don Jr. of a Vaik and bring your ballot. 0.94

00:43:11.000 If you bring a ballot, you get a picture and do that for three weeks straight.

00:43:15.000 Show up with your ballot.

00:43:16.000 Show up with your ballot.

00:43:17.000 If you want a great precedent here, have you ever heard of the hard hat riot of 1970?

00:43:21.000 You said it.

00:43:22.000 It was in New York, right?

00:43:23.000 Yep.

00:43:23.000 So this is 1970.

00:43:25.000 This is right after another big student protest.

00:43:29.000 It was Nixon announced that he was bombing Cambodia in the Vietnam War.

00:43:33.000 There were a ton of student strikes, student protests, student occupations.

00:43:37.000 The Kent State shooting happens around now.

00:43:39.000 And there's a major protest in New York City.

00:43:43.000 And what happens is a thousand demonstrators, like a bunch of office workers and blue-collar workers, so guys wearing hard hats, show up with American flags chanting pro-USA slogans, and they get in a fight with all of the students.

00:43:57.000 And Richard Nixon invites these hard hat guys to the White House.

00:44:01.000 And two years later, he wins 49 out of 50 states.

00:44:06.000 And then I assume everything worked out for him after that.

00:44:08.000 And nothing bad happened to Nixon after that.

00:44:12.000 Jack, young men are going to save America.

00:44:15.000 I believe politically this is a glitch in the polling matrix.

00:44:18.000 We're seeing it in macropollinghill.com, young boys most conservative been in 50 years.

00:44:23.000 We see this with micro experiences on campus.

00:44:26.000 This is a huge deal.

00:44:27.000 And if it manifests, Donald Trump does five or six points better in Dane County, Wisconsin, UW-Madison.

00:44:34.000 If he does five or six points better at NAU, U of A, or ASU in Arizona, Joe Biden's going to have major problems.

00:44:42.000 Look, if you're the GOP right now watching this, you've got to go back.

00:44:47.000 I don't understand why the GOP stopped courting fraternities to begin with.

00:44:52.000 This was something that the GOP did for years, by the way, even up through the 2000s, even back when I first started doing field work with Republican parties, that it was very clear that we would work with frats all the time to do stuff like this, including, by the way, voter registration and A.B. Chase, which is what ballot chasing kind of used to be called, A.B. Chase, and absentee ballot chasing.

00:45:14.000 And so it's very clear this is a natural alliance.

00:45:18.000 I mean, I kind of get it that Republicans became sort of not cool during the Bush years and neocons and sort of like the Nambi Pamby and just the physical swishiness and softness and fat-headed and fat-ide people of the neocons and like the Eric Erickson types just really kind of drove away a lot of the frat guys.

00:45:40.000 That's something where this is an energy that Donald Trump has very much brought back.

00:45:45.000 And if you're the GOP right now, you've got to be asking, what are the biggest fraternities on the biggest campuses in the swing states that I should be working out with?

00:45:53.000 These are the guys that we should be working with to staff our field offices, come up with programs for them, give them credit, whatever it is that they need to get a leg up.

00:46:01.000 This is a clear, natural alliance.

00:46:03.000 And if the GOP was smart, this is something they would automatically be tying into.

00:46:08.000 I totally agree.

00:46:10.000 And so, Tyler, talk about politically, we're seeing this on the ground.

00:46:13.000 This could be a major break for the Democrat Party.

00:46:17.000 Yeah, I mean, there's a lot that's, you know, the Democrats have looked at, have been abusing us for some time.

00:46:31.000 Big time.

00:46:32.000 And for us, we're on college campuses.

00:46:36.000 You're seeing young people finally get to a point where they're like, wait, why am I a Democrat?

00:46:42.000 Why am I sitting on the left?

00:46:44.000 And you have a couple of different vectors that's happening.

00:46:46.000 You have the pro-Israel piece, right?

00:46:49.000 Because there are so many elements of liberal culture that have been pro-Israel.

00:46:54.000 And now you've got this like the last 10 years, we've been part of this and really suppressing the anti-Israel on campus narrative.

00:47:03.000 And so a lot of people are going like, wait, that's confusing.

00:47:06.000 Then you have rappers coming out supporting Trump.

00:47:09.000 You have RFK in the race, who right now is polling ahead of Joe Biden significantly with young people in the under-30 category.

00:47:19.000 So you have this really everything's coming together right now that's happening on campus with young people in particular.

00:47:26.000 You have parents who are really concerned about their kids getting out of the house after they turn 21, 22, getting out of college, that they don't want to bring them back in and have to have them within the household.

00:47:38.000 So I think you have this coming together of like four or five different things that's actually culminating in a really bad scenario for Democrats.

00:47:48.000 And so this is why I said I tweeted out just this last week.

00:47:51.000 I think they're going to, and they know, number one, two, that we're actually figuring things out on the right in these key target states.

00:47:58.000 They're going to have to do really radical, radical things between now and October.

00:48:03.000 Well, I mean, I think, I actually think that, I mean, I don't know.

00:48:11.000 I don't want to get into this.

00:48:12.000 I'll let Blake into speculation about how civil war is going to break out here, but because he's a big believer in it.

00:48:18.000 But I mean, look, they're going to have to do radical stuff to overcome not just one or two narratives, but like four or five narratives with their key target base.

00:48:36.000 And I've been saying this a lot, and this is the reason why, and Jack, you know, and I have sparred over RFK's influence on ballots he's going to pull away.

00:48:45.000 Even if he pulls a little bit more away from Trump than he does from Biden, the problem for Democrats is that they don't have a base to chase.

00:48:55.000 Because we're looking at, and the base to chase is really important.

00:48:58.000 In the black community, we just were looking at these numbers.

00:49:01.000 The polling numbers are showing that if you haven't ever voted in elections as a black American, you're about 35% likely to vote for Trump.

00:49:10.000 Well, they can't just randomly pluck black people now to vote for Democrats.

00:49:15.000 Young people now, the polling is showing that they are leaning more towards Trump than they are Joe Biden, and certainly towards RFK over Joe Biden.

00:49:25.000 So they can't just pluck a young person now.

00:49:27.000 So they're running out of groups to go chase votes, particularly in Arizona, Wisconsin, Georgia, other places, Nevada.

00:49:34.000 And that spells really bad things for them.

00:49:36.000 So they have to do something extraordinarily radical to try to influence the election ahead of October.

00:49:43.000 That's just my opinion.

00:49:44.000 I just think that they have to do that at this point because the numbers are heading in the direction they're so bad.

00:49:50.000 And they raised a lot of money for a party, right?

00:49:52.000 They did.

00:49:53.000 I want to mention two things quick.

00:49:53.000 They did.

00:49:55.000 First, someone in the comments is asking if you are a Freemason because you did something called the Triad Claw.

00:50:00.000 I don't know what that is.

00:50:01.000 I'm not a Freemason.

00:50:03.000 A more serious one.

00:50:05.000 Someone does point out, and I think this is true, is I think the way that the frat bros are swerving, there's really a divide that is happening.

00:50:14.000 He says it comes down to the left is cringe now. 1.00

00:50:18.000 Their art is garbage. 1.00

00:50:19.000 The left is boring. 1.00

00:50:21.000 And I think on top of that, the left is, it's like visually disgusting.

00:50:26.000 The most appealing thing about these frat boys is you look at them with the flag and they're non-obese.

00:50:32.000 They basically know how to dress properly.

00:50:35.000 They have normal haircuts with normal hair colors.

00:50:38.000 They don't have bizarre tattoos upon their face or upon their entire sleeve of their arm.

00:50:45.000 And I think a real split, a real division that is coming in American politics is essentially the divide between people who, if you made a photo of them black and white, it would look like a photo from the old times and people who literally look like a goblin or an orc or some sort of CGI monstrosity.

00:51:04.000 And in the long run, even though America has some bad trends, I think there's a lot of desire to have a society of normal-looking people who can live normal lives and be functional.

00:51:15.000 So hold on.

00:51:16.000 How long until the New York Times does a hit piece on those kids accusing them of propriety?

00:51:21.000 They're going to be all over these guys.

00:51:23.000 No, I'm not kidding.

00:51:24.000 They're going to be all over these.

00:51:24.000 How long are they going to be?

00:51:25.000 By Monday morning, there'll be a hit piece saying that one of these kids said a racist joke or accused of statutory risk.

00:51:32.000 It's going to be a rape allegation.

00:51:35.000 I don't know how bad it was in, was it 2018 or 2019? 0.76

00:51:38.000 The kids from Kentucky, I'm totally spacing.

00:51:41.000 Covington and Covington and the Nicholas Sandman.

00:51:44.000 Like, all that they had of them was a video of them basically chanting USA or something like that and smiling awkward, and one guy smiling awkwardly near that elder guy banging Nicholas Sandman.

00:51:56.000 And, well, I don't can't remember the elders guy.

00:51:57.000 Yeah, yeah, Nick Sandman was the kid.

00:51:59.000 And they managed to just take the imagery of that.

00:52:01.000 Like the ability to just smear and essentially do character assassination on young white men was so strong.

00:52:08.000 They could just take that video and whip people into a frenzy.

00:52:12.000 And when you think about it, the clip we just showed is actually a lot like that.

00:52:16.000 They show up and they surround some hideous protesters and chant USA and have a flag and kind of make a bit of a ruckus.

00:52:23.000 And people love it and they like can't even attempt to smear them over it anymore.

00:52:28.000 I do think that shows a pretty big shift.

00:52:30.000 Let's check it in here.

00:52:31.000 Check.

00:52:32.000 There's also, well, just to pick up where Blake left off, it is a huge shift, but I would argue that it's a shift that's been in the works for a decade at this point.

00:52:41.000 Because what are we one decade from what happened 10 years ago in the summer of 2014 was the UVA rape hoax.

00:52:51.000 Yes.

00:52:51.000 The Rolling Stone case that came out, which really was the start of the Me Too movement, which was when so much of wokeness kicked off, when the wokes really took over, when Greek life was pretty much either destroyed or ultimately neutralized and cucked all across America.

00:53:12.000 And now, like, the Me Too movement has crested.

00:53:16.000 The wokeness has turned the corners, specifically in Hollywood and some of the other places, if you're looking closely. 0.96

00:53:22.000 DEI is seen as a bad thing.

00:53:25.000 CRT is pretty much defeated at this point.

00:53:28.000 It's still limping on, but nobody's taking it seriously or really championing it in the public square.

00:53:33.000 And now, all of a sudden, the Frat Boys are back, and the Frat Boys are asserting themselves on campuses and being applauded for asserting themselves on campus.

00:53:46.000 And I said earlier on Twitter, the reintroduction of Frat Boys on campus is like the reintroduction of Wolves to Yellowstone in order to rebalance the ecosystem. 0.69

00:53:58.000 Well, and like 10 years ago, too, Jack, was really the attacks on frat boy culture was because of the Me Too movement was really an attack on frat boy culture.

00:54:09.000 And this is where, and it's really interesting.

00:54:12.000 This is in the womb of this was like Barstool was born As this alternative media and outside media because the world hated everything about these people, and so people, normal people, alternative media, went to that type of a thing, and it was really looked at poorly, especially within normal culture on a college campus.

00:54:38.000 These kids now, it's like Newton's pendulum.

00:54:41.000 What do they call it? 0.96

00:54:42.000 Where the pendulum swings back with the thing was like the entire motion is coming back now where people are like, I am so sick and tired of seeing like this stuff I don't agree with that just like feels good with BLM, with everything else, like these nasty, ugly, horrible human beings are just screeching at the top of their lungs on college campuses.

00:55:05.000 And like these kids are just, again, I think the Sandman comparison is like they're just quiet, quietly standing there defending the flag.

00:55:13.000 And some of them are quipping and saying some funny stuff, right?

00:55:16.000 But like in general, like they're getting screamed at by these hordes of people that most Americans have no association with, and they can relate way more to the kids defending the flag.

00:55:27.000 And that's a huge problem for the left.

00:55:28.000 Let's play Cut 129. 1.00

00:55:30.000 Megan Kelly goes after the mutants. 1.00

00:55:32.000 And by the way, why are they so unattractive?

00:55:35.000 I really legitimately want to know: why are all the protesters so homely?

00:55:39.000 I don't think they're unconnected.

00:55:40.000 I'm not going to lie.

00:55:41.000 I think attractive, smart people are not drawn to this nonsense.

00:55:44.000 They're living their lives being successful. 0.99

00:55:47.000 It's the unattractive and/or dumb people who feel the need to do this to feel like they matter. 0.99

00:55:53.000 Sorry. 0.99

00:55:54.000 No, you don't have to be sorry, Megan.

00:55:55.000 That's totally true.

00:55:56.000 I think it's also, as the saying goes, like nature abhors a vacuum.

00:56:01.000 And there's so much nihilistic energy on the left of rip apart America, rip apart civilization.

00:56:09.000 There's so much joy of just literally frat bros who love America.

00:56:14.000 And I do think that's something the right would do well to think of.

00:56:19.000 I do think it's very easy for the right to fall into a lot of negativity.

00:56:22.000 There are many things to be negative about. 0.99

00:56:24.000 But the last Republican president who just kicked a huge amount of ass was Ronald Reagan. 0.98

00:56:30.000 And Ronald Reagan, whatever his pluses and minuses, one of his biggest strengths was he was a relentlessly positive person. 0.99

00:56:38.000 He exuded positive vibes.

00:56:41.000 And I do think we'd do well to cultivate that of just, oh, yeah, frat bros who love America.

00:56:45.000 We love the flag.

00:56:46.000 It's great.

00:56:47.000 Here's some stuff.

00:56:48.000 These are the heirs of the guys who won World War II, whether that's literally true or not.

00:56:52.000 And you'll get a lot of surprising allies that way, I think.

00:56:56.000 Well, I asked the question of somebody today.

00:56:58.000 I was like, when you're comparing yourself to, because whenever we see the abortion rallies, who's out front? 0.74

00:57:06.000 It's like the nasty, ugly, you know, super left. 1.00

00:57:12.000 It's always a bunch of lesbians. 1.00

00:57:13.000 I don't know why they care about abortion that much. 1.00

00:57:16.000 We talk about this all the time. 1.00

00:57:16.000 Like, why is it the lesbians that care most about abortion? 1.00

00:57:20.000 They're the least likely to fall into that trap, right?

00:57:24.000 But you look at all these people and it's like, people, do you want one of those people as your next door neighbor?

00:57:31.000 Do you want one of those people? 1.00

00:57:32.000 What would you do if a fat, crazy lesbian showed up to fix your sink? 1.00

00:57:40.000 That was the plumber that showed. 1.00

00:57:42.000 No, they're more likely to associate with people who are going to be the people who save you at that time.

00:57:49.000 That's the doctor I want to see is one of the frat kids, right?

00:57:52.000 That's the plumber I want to see that I'm calling because I have a leak in the middle of the night.

00:57:58.000 Those are the people in the future that I want coaching my kids or teaching my kids.

00:58:01.000 I don't trust the people that are screaming, you know, and throwing their hands in the air and trying to destroy the country.

00:58:09.000 Like, I would never trust that for my society.

00:58:11.000 And at some point, it's a very community-driven thing.

00:58:14.000 I want to put that visual back up on screen here of the frat boys holding up the flag.

00:58:21.000 You can see why this has resonated so much because this is the image that you're supposed to hate.

00:58:25.000 Look at all the things you're supposed to hate in one picture.

00:58:27.000 You're supposed to hate the flag. 0.74

00:58:29.000 You're supposed to hate that they're men.

00:58:30.000 You're supposed to hate that they're standing up against a power structure using their testosterone and using courage because they don't know how it's going to work out.

00:58:38.000 It's all dudes.

00:58:39.000 Right.

00:58:40.000 Right.

00:58:40.000 I said they're men.

00:58:41.000 You hate out that they're white, right? 1.00

00:58:43.000 You hate that they're part of a fraternity that doesn't allow women in there. 0.99

00:58:50.000 That picture is what you're supposed to be incensed about.

00:58:55.000 And when you're around sincere liberals, it really does come out. 0.92

00:59:00.000 They are mentally unwell people because they actually do come unhinged at just imagery like that.

00:59:08.000 They'll see that and it just causes a dark feeling in their stomach. 0.94

00:59:12.000 They can't handle that.

00:59:14.000 And I think it is a failure of the right to not highlight that as much as we can.

00:59:19.000 These people are freak shows. 0.86

00:59:20.000 They're weirdos. 1.00

00:59:22.000 They're awful. 1.00

00:59:23.000 This is one of the best reasons.

00:59:24.000 You know, this is why you should run against HR departments.

00:59:27.000 Everyone's been around an HR department and they're, you know, not fully human beings in a lot of ways.

00:59:32.000 No, they're very human.

00:59:34.000 We're kidding.

00:59:35.000 Are you saying if you, if you, if you, if you work in an HR department, you shouldn't serve on a jury, Blake?

00:59:41.000 No.

00:59:41.000 Toby Flinderson?

00:59:42.000 Something like that.

00:59:43.000 Also, one of our great inspiration says, please stop calling these people kids.

00:59:49.000 I hold to the principle that everyone at least 24 hours younger than me is a kid.

00:59:54.000 And so I'm going to call them kids.

00:59:57.000 Well, no, I do want to talk about kids, actually, Blake, because there is a quick addendum to this that you and I were chatting about beforehand.

01:00:03.000 And we were talking about not just colleges and the reintroduction of frat boys, but also about the reintroduction of bullies, in a sense, to sort of the high school, middle school culture.

01:00:16.000 And so this is something where bullies were removed through anti-bullying programs.

01:00:21.000 And because of this, what we get are, you know, these school programs where something goes wrong and someone says something and it all gets reported up to the teacher.

01:00:30.000 It all gets reported up to the council.

01:00:32.000 It all gets reported up to the principal.

01:00:34.000 And nobody is actually ever dealing with conflict directly anymore.

01:00:39.000 And so you teach people these learned helplessness of, oh, I can't, you know, deal with anything interpersonally or directly because there's no bullies to overcome.

01:00:49.000 I've got to go complain and file the complaint and write a report about it.

01:00:53.000 And it has to go to some committee rather than actually having people deal with things on their own.

01:00:58.000 And I've said for years, this has led to stunted growth.

01:01:02.000 And so I would support some reasonable, you know, reintroduction of bullies into the ecosystem, even at a younger level.

01:01:12.000 Here's what's the craziest part about this entire thing with the defending the flag and everything else.

01:01:17.000 It wasn't that many years ago, right, that we had like literally the left and the entire country worked up into a frenzy on kneeling for Colin Kaepernick, Colin Kaepernick, everything else. 0.98

01:01:30.000 And the right right now is, you know, busy doing idiotic stuff in Congress and everything else. 0.93

01:01:37.000 Like, this is the perfect opportunity for leaders of this country to come out and say, wow, what an incredible job. 0.98

01:01:46.000 Like, instead of like waiting for the New York Times to attack these kids, give them a hero's welcome, talk about this, and put this in the face of Americans and say, just a few years ago, we were kneeling on flags and throwing flags down on campus.

01:02:00.000 And we have people, look how far this has gone.

01:02:04.000 We have people, kids that were raised right that are defending the flag, and this is what we should be doing.

01:02:08.000 That's what we should be doing, leadership.

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01:03:42.000 What's our final talk here?

01:03:43.000 Well, we have two options: we could talk about the fertility crash, or we could talk about the bullet crashing into Christy Noam's dog's head.

01:03:52.000 I think the fertility one's a good set. 0.78

01:03:54.000 I mean, I think the dog thing, let me just the dog thing we could do very simply.

01:03:58.000 I'll just read the Politico headline of politico.com right now: Christy Gnome's VP chances appear as dead as the dog she killed.

01:04:05.000 There are other reasons, too.

01:04:07.000 I think that's the end of the topic.

01:04:09.000 All I want to say is to defend the good people of my home state of South Dakota and also the related state of North Dakota.

01:04:17.000 I just, I think people do struggle to know what the culture gap is like on actual farm, rural country.

01:04:24.000 I wasn't sure, so I called my dad and I asked about this.

01:04:28.000 And he said, you know, he grew up in rural North Dakota in a town of 400 people.

01:04:32.000 And he said, We had a dog, it caused problems.

01:04:36.000 And my dad would rather drive to the moon than drive to a vet and pay the vet money to do what he could do himself.

01:04:45.000 And I think that's an attitude we've actually lost.

01:04:48.000 We've become very used to not handling our own problems directly.

01:04:52.000 And it's almost unsettling for us to see someone do it.

01:04:56.000 That said, yeah, she's not going to be vice president anymore.

01:04:59.000 That's correct. 0.97

01:05:00.000 You have a thought on killing dogs?

01:05:02.000 No, but I believe that dogs people care more about dogs than they do kids.

01:05:07.000 Oh, of course, in America.

01:05:08.000 That's our next job.

01:05:09.000 As a whole, and that's a tragedy. 0.84

01:05:10.000 It actually ties into fertility.

01:05:11.000 Right, which is this entire thing.

01:05:13.000 And so, unfortunately, to be successful in politics, I don't think you should attack pets.

01:05:21.000 Well, which but people would rather have pets than kids, and the fertility rate is the lowest it's ever been.

01:05:27.000 We're down to 1.62 on average births per woman in the United States in 2023, if you project outwards.

01:05:35.000 That is the lowest level.

01:05:37.000 They say lowest since 1979.

01:05:40.000 Or it's the lowest number of babies since 1979.

01:05:43.000 I believe is the lowest fertility rate ever recorded in the U.S.

01:05:47.000 And it pairs with another interesting data point that we just looked up because what I think is very common is, you know, with the populist right is they'll present this as an economic problem.

01:06:00.000 People are having fewer kids because housing is expensive, because they're getting these college degrees and they're in a ton of debt.

01:06:07.000 And so it's all costly and difficult to have a family.

01:06:10.000 But what I looked up and I found really interesting, and it's 132, yeah, it's on screen there, is if you look at the number of kids by income group, and you will see it is highest for people who have more money, but it's an extremely high amount of money.

01:06:25.000 It's people making over a million dollars per year.

01:06:29.000 If you are making $500,000 to a million dollars per year, you still have only about 1.85 kids.

01:06:38.000 You're still having fewer kids than people who make $25,000 a year.

01:06:45.000 The lowest number of kids is in the group of people who are making over $200,000.

01:06:49.000 Even they're having less than people who make half as much as they do.

01:06:54.000 And so I feel like we talk a lot about the economic reasons people don't have kids, but I think we're struggling to grapple with the real phenomenon, which is we have kind of culturally killed off the idea of having large families.

01:07:09.000 People don't want to have kids, and it's going to destroy America. 1.00

01:07:14.000 Jack, why is this the case?

01:07:16.000 Well, for the higher end, I think there's obviously more access to fertility treatments like IVF and surrogacy.

01:07:26.000 You've got people like Elon Musk that are doing everything they can to break the trend of low fertility rates.

01:07:33.000 But so here's what's really interesting.

01:07:35.000 And I asked Blake to actually look this up earlier, is that the rate of people for families who have children is relatively steady.

01:07:47.000 It's gone lower and has ticked up.

01:07:49.000 It was gone from like 2.3 in the 1960s, went down to 1.8.

01:07:54.000 I don't think it ever broke under 1.8, but now it's back up to 1.94.

01:07:58.000 So for families who choose to have kids is what I'm talking about, the rate has been somewhat steady.

01:08:05.000 The rate that's increased is the families that have decided to no longer have kids or people who are not getting married in general.

01:08:13.000 So you've got a rise of something that's completely new in America, the dink couple, so double income, no kids. 1.00

01:08:19.000 And then also the rise of simply, or I should say, the decline in marriage rates.

01:08:25.000 And so you've got, this is really something where I know there's a lot of people who want to run around and just point to one thing and say, oh, it's video games or, oh, it's weed or oh, it's porn or oh, it's easy access to abortion.

01:08:36.000 And the real, you know, it's women's liberation.

01:08:39.000 It's the 19th Amendment. 0.72

01:08:40.000 The real answer is it's actually a lot of factors.

01:08:44.000 It's a lot of factors combined.

01:08:47.000 One thing that I do think we should talk about, though, is economy, because it's certainly something that gets left out of the conversation a lot.

01:08:53.000 Economy does play a role, as does, by the way, the high levels of immigration that America is currently receiving.

01:08:59.000 High levels of immigration lead to downward pressure on wages, downward and upward pressure on the housing market. 1.00

01:09:06.000 This in turn makes it harder for people to have money in terms of real wages.

01:09:11.000 And it gives us the housing crisis that we are currently in.

01:09:14.000 And so AOC, I remember, made this point.

01:09:16.000 And a lot of people make this point all the time in the immigration debate.

01:09:19.000 They say we need more immigrants.

01:09:21.000 Elon Musk says it all the time, even though I've been correcting him and he's getting better at it.

01:09:25.000 They keep saying we need more immigrants because the birth rate is down, but they're not actually assessing the fact that the high immigration rate is actually depressing our birth rate.

01:09:37.000 That's right.

01:09:38.000 I think what actually, a reason that that is the case is I think really high, when you have really high immigration and you can see the community around you changing extremely rapidly, it sort of breaks the cultural script that you live in.

01:09:56.000 It's an interesting phenomenon because we can sort of see this.

01:09:59.000 They've tried to study this in individual villages in India because you'll have villages in India that have like high birth rates and ones that have very low birth rates.

01:10:08.000 And it's like when you break up the narratives that give society its force.

01:10:14.000 And so I think it's actually probably lots of diversity, lots of change, technological and social and so on.

01:10:21.000 It makes people feel detached from everything.

01:10:24.000 They don't get what their role in the world is.

01:10:26.000 And it's that feeling of having a role in a greater whole that makes you want to perpetuate it and makes you pair off with someone and have a family and keep it all going.

01:10:37.000 And we've sort of blown that up.

01:10:39.000 And you just are an atomized person.

01:10:42.000 And when you live in that and you feel like you're not living for anything, it's very easy to just check out and say, yeah, what matters most is like have a lot of fun and then punch your ticket out.

01:10:52.000 Well, and I think so.

01:10:52.000 Social thought, Tyler, yeah.

01:10:53.000 Oh, I was just going to say, I think social media plays such a role into that.

01:10:56.000 I think Instagram alone has, I don't know what the rates look like since Instagram came out, but like with women who generally wear the pants in the relationship when it comes to determining when births are going to happen, I hear they have a big part in that.

01:11:14.000 They play a big part in that.

01:11:16.000 Don't ask a liberal, but you know, that's the big thing.

01:11:19.000 They're on Instagram. 1.00

01:11:20.000 You have your women in America in pocketed communities. 1.00

01:11:25.000 They're looking at everything that everybody else says, every other family does.

01:11:30.000 And knowing their role in society, in a family, in their own community, I think is really interesting.

01:11:38.000 It's like part of that conversation.

01:11:39.000 We'll pick this up next week, guys.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - May 04, 2024

THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 43 — Banning the Bible? Frat Bro Future? The Birth Dearth?

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