The Charlie Kirk Show - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 46 — Trump in the Bronx? Drone War? Dead Lobster?

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00:03:05.000 Today we have producer Andrew.

00:03:07.000 We have Blake Meth and Jack, who is traveling and a lot happening.

00:03:11.000 We are going to be concurrently streaming the Bronx Trump rally.

00:03:16.000 I think it just might have ended.

00:03:18.000 And let's dive right into it.

00:03:20.000 So Blake, your reaction, and I believe that is our top story here.

00:03:25.000 Donald Trump storms the Bronx.

00:03:28.000 Yeah, Charlie.

00:03:29.000 So I remember us.

00:03:31.000 We raised an eyebrow when this was announced just a few days ago because we've had this discussion.

00:03:36.000 Is it a good thing for Trump to be he has a strong fixation on the New York metro area?

00:03:43.000 He did that huge rally in Jersey.

00:03:45.000 He's done this rally in the Bronx.

00:03:47.000 There's all these stories.

00:03:49.000 We've all heard Trump, he seems to genuinely be interested in like winning New York, winning New Jersey.

00:03:55.000 He thinks he can pick up these states in the election.

00:03:59.000 And we sort of think to ourselves, okay, objectively, that's probably not going to happen.

00:04:05.000 But and so conventionally, you'd say this is a waste of time.

00:04:08.000 It's a waste of resources.

00:04:09.000 Don't campaign where you're not going to win the election.

00:04:12.000 But I'm starting to change my mind on it.

00:04:15.000 There's a huge amount of viral energy around it.

00:04:19.000 I think New York in particular has such a huge amount of cultural gravity for Americans that like everyone pays attention to what happens in New York.

00:04:30.000 It kind of it creates a vibe.

00:04:32.000 It creates a lot of energy.

00:04:34.000 There's nothing really bad about it happening.

00:04:36.000 It makes more people watch it.

00:04:37.000 So you know what?

00:04:39.000 Trump's instincts are really strong and they've been really strong ever since he became a politician.

00:04:43.000 And I think it makes sense that Trump, Trump's instincts would tell him, I should campaign in the most famous city in the world that is America's biggest city.

00:04:52.000 And I should go there to campaign to people.

00:04:55.000 And so, yeah, maybe it will work.

00:04:57.000 Maybe this will pan out.

00:04:59.000 And he probably, he still is not going to win New York, but maybe he will improve with all those groups that the polls show he's improving with from this.

00:05:07.000 Well, yeah, I want to just give my thoughts here.

00:05:10.000 Then Jack, I want you to chime in really quick.

00:05:12.000 Let's just be very clear.

00:05:13.000 Trump is not going to win New York.

00:05:14.000 If Trump wins New York, then hallelujah.

00:05:17.000 450 electoral votes.

00:05:20.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:05:21.000 He will win the state of Washington before he wins New York.

00:05:27.000 Let's just put this in context, okay?

00:05:29.000 Or he'll win Illinois before he wins New York.

00:05:31.000 However, however, I don't think Trump should open up a field office in New York, but he's basically on house arrest and he's exhausted and he has to spend time in what he calls the ice box.

00:05:41.000 And as someone who's constantly complaining about temperature, I laugh all the time when Trump is complaining about temperature.

00:05:47.000 I'm like, I totally get that.

00:05:48.000 He's in this like super cold room.

00:05:50.000 They're trying to ice him out.

00:05:51.000 And so he's left with a few choices.

00:05:53.000 He'd get on a plane.

00:05:54.000 He could fly to Michigan and he's planning to do that, obviously, throughout the summer, exhaust himself, come back to the ice box, or he can kind of go down the street and campaign in the very neighborhoods that he grew up in and around.

00:06:07.000 I mean, the Bronx is not exactly Trump country.

00:06:10.000 It is the more dangerous neighborhood of New York.

00:06:13.000 Here's why I love it.

00:06:15.000 I don't love it necessarily from a, oh, we're going to get New York's electoral votes.

00:06:18.000 I love it for a couple of reasons.

00:06:20.000 I love it because it's purely ballsy.

00:06:23.000 It's like, I'm going to go into a dangerous Democrat-infested neighborhood of the people that are trying to throw me in prison.

00:06:29.000 And I'm going to do a rally and I'm going to show you how many people can actually show up.

00:06:33.000 That's number one.

00:06:34.000 Number two, I think that if this is going to be his energy, it's very similar to what we talked about earlier on our program, him accepting Joe Biden to want a debate.

00:06:44.000 It's, I'm going to take it to the left.

00:06:46.000 Sure.

00:06:46.000 How many debates do you want?

00:06:48.000 I'm not going to just sit idly by and act like I'm entitled to the presidency.

00:06:52.000 So I don't think we should try to delude ourselves like, oh, Trump is going to win New York.

00:06:56.000 That will not happen.

00:06:57.000 Okay.

00:06:58.000 Let's just be very clear.

00:06:59.000 If it does, he wins everything and America is going to enter a pox Americana era. 0.94

00:07:05.000 However, considering the circumstances, the viral nature of this, the amount of people that have made this now appointment viewing, Trump going to the Bronx, Trump going to the Bronx.

00:07:15.000 I agree, Blake.

00:07:16.000 I think it's a super smart point is that as John Lennon said, New York is the center of the world.

00:07:21.000 It's less so that, but it still kind of is.

00:07:24.000 People from Saturday Night Live to 30 Rock, New York has a very special place in the memory of America's cultural understanding.

00:07:34.000 And Trump going in that unfriendly territory and drawing a massive crowd.

00:07:39.000 Now, this is, you cannot buy the advertisement.

00:07:42.000 Fox just took it uninterrupted for an entire hour.

00:07:45.000 CNN doing live hits from it.

00:07:47.000 Millions of people watching online of minorities that are attending this event.

00:07:53.000 So I'm with Blake.

00:07:54.000 Actually, I think this is a net win, not because it's going to boost our chances in New York, although it could actually help with some house seats.

00:08:01.000 Instead, it creates this Trump 2016 energy.

00:08:04.000 We're not going to take it easy and we're going to win.

00:08:06.000 Jack Posobic, your thoughts?

00:08:07.000 Yeah, Charlie, I mean, largely agree with everything you and Blake just said.

00:08:12.000 John Lennon, of course, the quote was: you know, if I were alive 2,000 years ago, I would be living in Rome.

00:08:19.000 And because I'm alive today, New York is the new Rome.

00:08:23.000 And so that's where I'm going to live.

00:08:24.000 He, of course, was murdered there later by a crazed fan.

00:08:28.000 New York is a piece that we touched on, but we didn't really dig into.

00:08:32.000 This isn't, New York City isn't just where Trump grew up.

00:08:35.000 It is the city where he became Donald Trump, where he became a household figure, where he became the name who was a cameo in movie after movie and TV show after TV show.

00:08:45.000 I mean, for 30 plus years, his name was synonymous with Mr. New York.

00:08:50.000 And this is a huge, you know, some people have actually kind of been debating this recently that because there's sort of Florida Trump now and New York Trump.

00:09:01.000 And people notice that when Trump's in New York, he seems to have a little bit more swagger in his step.

00:09:07.000 His jaw is a little bit more set.

00:09:10.000 His eyes are a little bit more focused.

00:09:13.000 And it seems like he's drawing energy from the very streets.

00:09:16.000 I think Jack is making a really interesting point here, which is like Trump in New York is very similar to Jerry Seinfeld when he visited his parents at Del Boca Vista.

00:09:27.000 It's kind of like retirement and everything's slower.

00:09:32.000 And he goes back to New York and it's very like New York energy and everything's quicker and has more velocity and rapidity.

00:09:39.000 And he goes to New York and he's Donald Trump and he runs the city.

00:09:42.000 Andrew, your thoughts from a PR perspective, this seems to really be as I would say as hot as a pistol on social media.

00:09:53.000 I mean, it's full spectrum conversation monopoly right now.

00:09:58.000 The whole nation is talking favorably.

00:10:01.000 Well, I mean, to a certain extent, at least looking favorably upon this event in the Bronx.

00:10:05.000 And by the way, the aesthetics are beautiful.

00:10:07.000 Yeah, I think from a PR standpoint, it's a 10 out of 10 win.

00:10:12.000 I think, you know, we talk about this in the same way we talk about sometimes the House being a little bit feckless, like, oh, these impeachments aren't going to work.

00:10:21.000 These hearings aren't going to work.

00:10:22.000 I am always the voice in the room saying, I don't care.

00:10:25.000 I want the headlines of the Democrats playing defense. 0.99

00:10:28.000 And when you have AOC out there saying, well, this is really dumb. 0.97

00:10:32.000 And he's on house arrest. 1.00

00:10:35.000 It makes them look ridiculous, first of all. 0.98

00:10:38.000 Secondly, when you take a look at the pictures that are coming out from this event and you see like, you know, you got the Puerto Ricans and the black dudes and you've got just the minority look. 0.99

00:10:50.000 You have this Puerto Rican guy that went up on stage in broken English. 1.00

00:10:56.000 You had some of the rappers.

00:10:57.000 You realize that this cross-cultural coalition that is ready for change is building a momentum.

00:11:06.000 And those sound bites, those pictures that are going all over the internet, all of that builds up and you're giving more and more of an opportunity and a permission slip to people that otherwise wouldn't ever support a Republican to break party lines, to break the picket line and come over and join the family.

00:11:26.000 So I love this.

00:11:27.000 Yeah, I'm looking on internet just like you are, Twitter, Instagram.

00:11:31.000 It's Trump clips everywhere from the Bronx.

00:11:34.000 And in a speech that didn't make a lot of news on its substance, it made a tremendous amount of news just by its very existence.

00:11:43.000 And it's not dissimilar from the philosophy that we at Turning Point Action are doing with Detroit and our upcoming People's Convention, which I want to encourage you guys to go to tpaction.com slash peoples, tpaction.com slash peoples and get your tickets.

00:11:59.000 So, Blake, you and I are in full harmony and agreement.

00:12:01.000 And you and I kind of have this running joke, like, okay, stop saying you're going to win New York.

00:12:05.000 However, there is a brilliance of, okay, they're trying to take you off the field and you're using it as an advantage.

00:12:14.000 Just the bad guys thought that on May 23rd, 2024, if you told the Democrats that Donald Trump would be standing trial in New York, he would probably be like defeated, angry, and just like complaining, not doing a rather joyful, uplifting rally in the Bronx.

00:12:35.000 Blake, your reaction?

00:12:36.000 Yeah, it's very funny.

00:12:38.000 If you look at how the most deranged Trump haters frame Trump, he's always frame, like he's extremely angry.

00:12:46.000 He's always seething.

00:12:48.000 And, you know, like they build this whole universe where he's like lurking in his lair, you know, right off after he's gotten off the phone with Putin plotting his treason.

00:12:58.000 And it like just drives them insane how they can never actually beat the guy.

00:13:02.000 He keeps, you know, I don't want to say he keeps getting away with it forever, but he certainly looks like it.

00:13:07.000 He just keeps doing his thing.

00:13:09.000 It seems like they go after his businesses.

00:13:13.000 They get him banned from everything online.

00:13:16.000 They do everything they can to destroy Trump.

00:13:19.000 And Trump persists.

00:13:21.000 And another thing that stood out to me about the South Bronx rally, it reminds me a lot of the 20 of the 2016 vibe where there's a latent absurdity to Trump.

00:13:30.000 Like, oh, this guy we've seen in movies and on this reality show, he's running for president and he's got huge crowds and it's very strange crowds.

00:13:39.000 It's almost like, did you ever watch that movie, Happy Gilmore, where they get like upset that there's all the hoi polloi are showing up at their golf events? 0.96

00:13:49.000 And I think Trump rallies have a lot of that energy for people who are very serious about politics and they take it all very seriously.

00:13:56.000 And it just revived a lot of that.

00:13:57.000 I think it was a very fun event and fun is a good excuse to do a political thing that otherwise might not make the most sense in a pure get ballots in boxes in the key states sort of way.

00:14:11.000 So yeah, like we say, this doesn't matter because it will help him get to 270 because he flips New York and that makes his electoral math work.

00:14:21.000 And if he gets too fixated on that, I think that would be a mistake.

00:14:26.000 Now, I do think Trump genuinely thinks he can do this.

00:14:29.000 That's just how Trump operates.

00:14:30.000 Trump thinks he can win.

00:14:31.000 Trump thinks he can win every state.

00:14:33.000 He could flip California.

00:14:34.000 He could flip DC.

00:14:35.000 That's just how he thinks about things.

00:14:37.000 I don't think that will happen.

00:14:39.000 But the fact that he genuinely feels that way and it causes him to go and just campaign with the energy others don't have campaign towards groups that other Republicans don't go for.

00:14:52.000 That's what gives him a lot of this positive winner vibe energy.

00:14:56.000 It's why it's why you increasingly get the feeling.

00:15:00.000 I don't want to say a Trump win is inevitable, but Democrats have that sinking feeling in their stomach, like, oh, God, it's happening again.

00:15:09.000 Yeah.

00:15:10.000 And so I want to throw to Jack here.

00:15:11.000 I think we finally have it.

00:15:12.000 I totally agree with that, Blake.

00:15:14.000 And to be honest, the Democrats went super hard super early and they threw a lot of lawfare at Trump and they thought it was going to be a bitter primary.

00:15:24.000 And they are not happy where things are in May 2024, May 23rd, 2024.

00:15:29.000 But I'm going to say, no, no, no, Blake.

00:15:31.000 It is we are still the underdog.

00:15:33.000 They control everything.

00:15:34.000 They control the apparatus.

00:15:36.000 They're outraising us, outspending us.

00:15:38.000 Jack, this feels 2016 energy.

00:15:41.000 Donald Trump in a open-air rally, like outside in a park where it's kind of their bolten to go to the Bronx.

00:15:52.000 This is not the take it easy 2020 playbook where Trump was walking around with a mask and his team told him he had to do that to win.

00:15:59.000 This is a whole new energy.

00:16:01.000 What's going on, Jack?

00:16:03.000 So you're kind of Trump is in his punished and his, I don't want to say the word revenge.

00:16:14.000 I don't want to say the revenge.

00:16:15.000 He's punished and it's the retribution era.

00:16:18.000 He's in for his retribution era.

00:16:20.000 And everyone is for their retribution.

00:16:22.000 Everyone, people want retribution for what they've done to New York.

00:16:25.000 People want retribution for what they've done to our country.

00:16:28.000 They want retribution for what's been done overseas.

00:16:30.000 They want retribution for what's being done at the, yes, I am making a Battle Gear Salad reference, Blake.

00:16:36.000 They want retribution for what has been done at the gas station and the supermarket.

00:16:43.000 People want retribution.

00:16:44.000 And so suddenly he goes to New York City because of course he goes to New York City.

00:16:49.000 He's Donald Trump.

00:16:50.000 Donald Trump is culture.

00:16:52.000 MAGA is culture.

00:16:54.000 New York City is culture.

00:16:56.000 This is all part.

00:16:57.000 People forget the MAGA movement was born on Fifth Avenue at Trump Tower when Donald Trump came down the golden escalator.

00:17:06.000 There is a certain quintessential essence to that that you're just not going to find or get anywhere else in the country.

00:17:14.000 And you're certainly not going to get it if you're walking around like wearing masks and telling everyone to be socially distant and rallies and saying, oh, we're going to be checking it.

00:17:22.000 No, it's the, I'm just going to say it.

00:17:24.000 All right.

00:17:25.000 The MAGA movement is the quintessential American movement because it's two middle fingers up in the middle of the air, right in the face of the federal government, the establishment, the powers that be, all the people who say you can't.

00:17:40.000 No, we say we can.

00:17:41.000 That's how this country was founded and that house is how this country will be restored.

00:17:46.000 I think that's right.

00:17:47.000 And let's just be clear.

00:17:49.000 This is not about New York.

00:17:50.000 This is almost, think of it this way.

00:17:53.000 This was a television production and it was a masterful one.

00:17:59.000 This was a made-for-TV moment where it wasn't just about, it was you're going into a cultural place.

00:18:06.000 And if you go on the side of the street, everybody has a memory or a connection or some sort of understanding of New York.

00:18:14.000 It is the center of the planet still.

00:18:17.000 And after COVID, it's lost its cachet a little bit there.

00:18:21.000 And Donald Trump was always Mr. New York.

00:18:23.000 And I think this is important for another thing, too, which is that we say often one of the ways that we disempower the bad guys is that we do not show them that we are weak when they throw everything they can at us.

00:18:39.000 They are throwing everything they can at Trump, and then he shows up at the Bronx.

00:18:43.000 That is not the woke right playbook, right, Jack?

00:18:47.000 And I want to throw it back to you, Jack.

00:18:49.000 What would the woke right playbook?

00:18:50.000 And tell our audience what the woke right is.

00:18:52.000 That is a phrase that you are popularizing.

00:18:54.000 Is that on the deck, by the way?

00:18:55.000 I can't see the topics.

00:18:56.000 Are we talking woke right today?

00:18:58.000 I don't know.

00:18:59.000 I want you to because I think it's really great.

00:19:02.000 But really quick, Jack, just the woke right would instead, they would stay in their hotel room, be afraid to go out in public because they want to play by the old orthodoxy.

00:19:11.000 Compare and contrast here, Jack.

00:19:13.000 Well, yeah, I mean, the woke right would be saying that Donald Trump should be huddling with his legal team and he shouldn't be out doing rallies and he should be, you know, be very careful and sending out lawyers to go and make the, you know, strong legal arguments in his case.

00:19:28.000 And they would be saying that Trump should be challenging people to academic debates and they should be putting on some kind of intellectual Social salon over what the best philosophical aspects of modern history and the developments thereof would be to restore America and defeat wokeness.

00:19:51.000 Because essentially, the problem with the woke right is that they're kind of half woke.

00:19:54.000 They're not like all the way actually committed to a clear vision for restoring America along its original lines.

00:20:02.000 And which, as I said, is just that huge two middle fingers up to the establishment saying, no, we are going to do this our way, and we don't care what you guys say about it.

00:20:12.000 This isn't a debate.

00:20:13.000 We're not in it for a discussion anymore.

00:20:15.000 We're not going to sit around in the library.

00:20:16.000 We are going to go.

00:20:18.000 It is a, I would say, an aggressive bias towards action.

00:20:21.000 And when I say action, of course, obviously you have to say this, oh, no, I don't mean like, you know, Sam Alito and the insurrection flag or Mrs. Alito, right?

00:20:28.000 You know, obviously a complete hoax that they put out right now.

00:20:31.000 But this is this is why the MAGA movement is doing so well right now is because people are actually seeing that they stand for something rather than just talk, that they can give tangible results.

00:20:44.000 And the woke right was sort of the Washington generals that, you know, the team that plays against the team that plays against the Harlem Globetrotters.

00:20:53.000 They get paid to lose every single night.

00:20:55.000 They show up every night, they play, and they get paid to lose because the left dunks on them again, again, and again.

00:21:01.000 Remember, these are the guys saying we should never do anything.

00:21:04.000 We should just talk about the Constitution and how great it was and blah, blah, blah.

00:21:09.000 No, Donald Trump isn't like that.

00:21:10.000 Donald Trump was the guy who saw that the Wallman Rink, which he talked about tonight, which is one of these just great public goods that he did for the city of New York, was totally behind.

00:21:20.000 And he said, look, I'm a private businessman.

00:21:22.000 I'm going to come out of this world, do something for the public because I'm sick of looking at this.

00:21:27.000 And my daughter wants to go ice skating, comes in, fixes the entire thing in three months.

00:21:31.000 So it's the site of a city that was, by the way, totally crime ridden in the 1970s and 80s, gets cleaned up by Giuliani, the broken windows theory, which we've discussed many times here.

00:21:43.000 They turned Times Square into like an amusement park, the Transit Disney World.

00:21:47.000 And Donald Trump, of course, building and investing in Manhattan when everybody told him not to.

00:21:51.000 And then fast forward, just a few years after that era.

00:21:55.000 And you can't talk about New York without pointing out that it is also indelibly the site of America's greatest, I would say, modern tragedy.

00:22:04.000 And that, of course, being 9-11 and the 3,000 people who died there and in the other spots, but the loss of the Twin Towers.

00:22:12.000 This is why the Twin Towers were intact, because they were symbolic of America's greatness.

00:22:18.000 It's also by, by the way, that Donald Trump back in 2011 was arguing that we should just rebuild them, possibly 10 stories higher, but looking exactly the same because he understands the power of cultural symbols and the cultural valence that they carry.

00:22:31.000 You know, building a new tower, okay, that's nice, but it's not the same thing as restoring our powerful symbols.

00:22:37.000 So he understands symbols because he understands branding.

00:22:40.000 He understands cultural, cultural valence, and he understands the ability of those symbols to move mass movements.

00:22:47.000 Look, you know, and I think we all know this.

00:22:50.000 And I think everyone understands that in the same way that he looked at that ice rink and saw that it needed fixing and it needed somebody who wasn't a politician to get involved.

00:22:59.000 That's basically just a microcosm of what he's trying to do with the country now.

00:23:03.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:23:06.000 If you guys want to contact us throughout the hour, Blake, what is our next topic?

00:23:11.000 Oh, man.

00:23:11.000 So we have a double whammy on this one.

00:23:14.000 So it is the fourth anniversary of George Floyd this weekend on Saturday.

00:23:21.000 And so we have two things.

00:23:23.000 One, right here in town over at ASU, they have an art exhibit depicting our new modern Saint George, George Floyd, as Jesus Christ with a crown of thorns.

00:23:37.000 He died for our sins, as they say.

00:23:40.000 And the other breaking news we have is they are going to be making a George Floyd biopic titled Daddy Changed the World, which he did, I guess.

00:23:53.000 Did he have kids?

00:23:55.000 He had five children. 1.00

00:23:56.000 I can't remember by how many different women.

00:23:58.000 It was a number greater than one.

00:24:02.000 And I just keep thinking, I wonder how they're going to portray the scene where he holds a woman at gunpoint or where he participates in the adult film industry or where he decides to rob local small businesses of using fake money.

00:24:20.000 But I'm sure they'll figure all of that out because he did change the world.

00:24:24.000 But do we have that?

00:24:27.000 Show that on screen again with George Floyd in the crown of thorns.

00:24:34.000 Let's see.

00:24:35.000 The art exhibit is titled Twin Flames, The George Floyd Uprising from Minneapolis to Phoenix.

00:24:42.000 And it includes imagery and narratives that elevate Floyd to a mythical status.

00:24:49.000 Eliza Wesley, known as the gatekeeper of George Floyd Square, delivered a speech where she compared George Floyd to Jesus Christ and described him as the, quote, chosen one who died for each and every last one of us.

00:25:08.000 So I have a thought here.

00:25:10.000 It's very laughable.

00:25:11.000 Obviously, it's heretical and it's laughable in that sense.

00:25:13.000 But if you are, if your religion is the religion of anti-racism, this actually makes a lot of sense because Floyd was supposed to be the moment where we entered into the anti-racist AD and prior was BC.

00:25:30.000 For the neocon warmongers, World War II was kind of the crucifixion resurrection event, meaning that was like the change of everything, that the neoliberal rules-based order came in after World War II, and it's all we can talk about.

00:25:45.000 For the anti-racists, it is the death of George Floyd.

00:25:50.000 And so they look at him as a quasi-messianic figure that allowed a new covenant to almost come forward.

00:26:00.000 And the new era that we, again, they're failing because DEI is now being defunded in North Carolina and CRT, but that is how they view him.

00:26:09.000 They view him as this martyr that was wrongfully accused or killed or whatever or overdosed, however your opinion of events are, that then enters us into this new covenant of anti-racism.

00:26:27.000 Your thoughts, guys?

00:26:29.000 There's another quote at Anno Georgias.

00:26:33.000 There's another quote from George from the speech.

00:26:38.000 Had not George Floyd died, we wouldn't be here.

00:26:41.000 God chose him.

00:26:43.000 He was a chosen vessel.

00:26:45.000 Many are called, but few are chosen.

00:26:49.000 Well, Blake, let me ask you this, though.

00:26:52.000 Are they wrong?

00:26:53.000 Are they really wrong?

00:26:55.000 You know, I'm not sure they are wrong.

00:26:57.000 And I think what is interesting is remarking on it as, you know, this, you know, before and after, you know, BF and AG.

00:27:07.000 It's interesting because I was looking the other, actually just yesterday, I was looking, you know, they've been dutifully maintaining the database at the Washington Post and on Wikipedia of, you know, young black men shot by police.

00:27:22.000 And like, you know, this has continued to happen since 2020.

00:27:25.000 There have been cases, some of them, some of them much more sympathetic than Floyd, to be honest, of, you know, young black men being killed by police.

00:27:34.000 And they've like occasionally had these false starts at trying to re you know, build it up again.

00:27:40.000 Just a few days, a few weeks ago, you might remember that group of four kids who died in a car wreck where they were being pursued by police and they tried to make it this huge national atrocity.

00:27:49.000 And everyone pointed out, well, they I think it was a stolen car or they were like driving wildly too fast, something like that.

00:27:57.000 And it's like they failed at it.

00:27:58.000 Like they can't actually do this anymore.

00:28:00.000 And you compare this to before Floyd, where we had Trayvon Martin, then Michael Brown, and you'd get like Philando Castile.

00:28:09.000 And I think that he's a good example of one where they're more sympathetic.

00:28:12.000 But you had a new one every few months or at least every year, every couple of years.

00:28:17.000 And it's like after Floyd, that's it.

00:28:20.000 That's the final one.

00:28:21.000 They haven't been able to get another one off the ground since then.

00:28:25.000 And I think it shows that what was once this building movement has crystallized into a cultic thing where you either believe in St. George or you're just not a member of the religion anymore.

00:28:38.000 And like there's no, there's no new prophets.

00:28:41.000 Just like, you know, Jesus, Jesus was the end with Christianity. 0.98

00:28:44.000 There's no new prophets coming after St. George.

00:28:47.000 And I think it does indicate how 2020 was like the culmination of what they were doing.

00:28:54.000 And it's sort of, it's lost energy after that.

00:28:56.000 It's now just stuck with their one saint.

00:28:59.000 Yeah.

00:28:59.000 But this is very important: Marxists are not shy about appropriating Christianity for their purposes.

00:29:07.000 I mean, communism seeks to spiritually murder the individual so he can be reborn a communist.

00:29:13.000 That has been a fundamental part of Marxist doctrine.

00:29:17.000 That's why they're always targeting family, faith, and property because those are like the guardians of the soul.

00:29:24.000 And so George Floyd, when he's saying, I can't breathe, the anti-racists look at that and they say that's him saying, go and make anti-racists of all nations.

00:29:34.000 That was like the great commission to them.

00:29:37.000 And they're failing miserably because their fake pagan, anti-racist religion is deeply unpopular and is built on resentment and greed and bitterness and doesn't build anything. 0.88

00:29:50.000 But the religious undertones, you look at that on face value and you should get outrage. 1.00

00:29:55.000 It's silly. 1.00

00:29:55.000 It's stupid. 1.00

00:29:56.000 It's heretical. 1.00

00:29:58.000 But it's actually fitting for how the Marxists view their role.

00:30:04.000 And it's constantly trying to take the successful story, motifs, and symbols of Christianity and appropriate it for their causes.

00:30:14.000 Jack, your reaction.

00:30:16.000 Well, I mean, Charlie, it's, you know, what can I say?

00:30:20.000 I have a book about this that I just finished writing.

00:30:23.000 It's going to drop on the 4th of July.

00:30:25.000 Pre-orders are up.

00:30:26.000 By the way, if you want an early copy, make sure that when you come to people's in Detroit at Turning Point Action, we're going to be doing the book launch there.

00:30:35.000 Unhumansbook.com is where you can get access to this.

00:30:38.000 And of course, this is called Unhumans, The Secret History of Communist Revolutions and How to Crush Them.

00:30:44.000 And we talk again and again about how in many instances, not necessarily the appropriation of Christianity, which of course we see so much in liberation theory, but we also see the suppression of Christianity and the replacing of Christianity with a new religion.

00:31:01.000 You see this, of course, in the French Revolution.

00:31:04.000 You see this, of course, in China.

00:31:06.000 You see it in Spain.

00:31:07.000 You see it in Russia.

00:31:08.000 Blake Neff and I did a whole series about this over the Christmas break, talking about how religion is constantly targeted, not because, by the way, they say they're targeting it in the name of being anti-religion because they are freeing people from the oppression of religion and the obiate of the masses.

00:31:24.000 However, comma, they are replacing it with their own religion.

00:31:27.000 And so every new religion, every conquering power always seeks to subsume and destroy and obliterate the previous power and replace it with their own. 0.97

00:31:38.000 And we talk about how this is done time and again.

00:31:40.000 It is a playbook.

00:31:41.000 It is a playbook that has been run all over the world.

00:31:44.000 It's been run for hundreds, 250 years in some instances.

00:31:49.000 And so we are just seeing the version of it that's playing out now that we refer to as an irregular communist revolution because it happens in drips and drabs, but then there are also spikes.

00:31:59.000 You saw a flare-up, of course, of this in the leftist campus protests that just, you know, really just kind of died down, a school let out.

00:32:06.000 But in 2020, like we're talking about, there really was the pseudo-theological infrastructure created for a new type of religion, which, of course, justifies the revolution.

00:32:19.000 And that's always what they're seeking to do.

00:32:21.000 They must justify the revolution.

00:32:23.000 They must justify the things that they are doing, the horrible, evil things they are doing.

00:32:27.000 And they claim it is in the name of George Floyd.

00:32:29.000 They claim it is in the name of justice.

00:32:30.000 They claim it is in the name of equity. 0.99

00:32:32.000 But really, all it is are petty, envious, cruel, disgusting people trying to destroy the world. 0.87

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00:34:03.000 Blake, what do we have next?

00:34:05.000 Charlie, we just want to brace you.

00:34:08.000 This next news, Jordan Peterson's in shambles.

00:34:12.000 Red Lobster is going bankrupt.

00:34:15.000 It's dead lobster.

00:34:16.000 It's dead lobster now.

00:34:17.000 They have literally it influences back with our sit up straight with our shoulders back to trigger our serotonin.

00:34:27.000 How will we ever be able to get adequate tryptophan without Red Lobster?

00:34:31.000 Charlie, you brought up this last week.

00:34:33.000 You were like, well, what about the lobster flu that's coming?

00:34:36.000 It's about to sweep through even Media Matters wrote it up.

00:34:39.000 Oh, no, it's great.

00:34:40.000 I was like, oh, is this the lobster flu?

00:34:42.000 Did it just hit Red Lobster?

00:34:44.000 Is that what happened?

00:34:44.000 Tiny Violin for Media Matters, by the way.

00:34:46.000 They had to lay off like a dozen staffers.

00:34:48.000 Tiny Violin. 0.65

00:34:49.000 Tiny.

00:34:49.000 Tiny Violin.

00:34:50.000 I'm sad.

00:34:51.000 Or will we get our free marketing for the show?

00:34:53.000 I know.

00:34:53.000 Basically.

00:34:54.000 So let me understand.

00:34:56.000 I am a Midwesterner, so I'm kind of very well versed in mediocre, like multi-purpose chains.

00:35:04.000 So, every like I know them all very intimately because what's your favorite one?

00:35:08.000 Chilies, apple.

00:35:09.000 Not chilies.

00:35:10.000 I'll just answer.

00:35:11.000 Chilies is great.

00:35:12.000 Yeah.

00:35:12.000 Chili's is great, but outback.

00:35:14.000 I'm an olive garden.

00:35:15.000 Culver.

00:35:16.000 Culver's.

00:35:17.000 Of course.

00:35:18.000 Culver's is not.

00:35:19.000 Culver's is a fast food plant.

00:35:20.000 Culver's not.

00:35:21.000 It's a totally different category.

00:35:22.000 Yeah.

00:35:23.000 Again, that's a different category.

00:35:24.000 That is like the Midwest planes.

00:35:28.000 I'm talking about a place where you sit down and you get asked, okay, what are you going to eat?

00:35:32.000 You get served.

00:35:32.000 Okay.

00:35:33.000 So outback chilies, TGI Fridays, Olive Garden, Red Lobster.

00:35:38.000 Us Midwesterners are experts in such things.

00:35:42.000 When I go to like, I travel to Scottsdale, all of a sudden they're like, yeah, we're going to go to like a local restaurant.

00:35:46.000 I'm like, what's wrong with you?

00:35:47.000 You're going to a restaurant that isn't chilies?

00:35:49.000 Anyway, so okay, hold on, hold on, Charlie.

00:35:52.000 Charlie, Erica, Erica just said she's totally with me on Olive Garden.

00:35:57.000 I just, everybody, bottomless, you get all the soup you could, you couldn't eat all the soup.

00:36:04.000 Endless breadsteaks.

00:36:05.000 Charlie, gluten.

00:36:06.000 Serious question.

00:36:07.000 Olive Garden is a death sentence.

00:36:08.000 Charlie, have you eaten at the Olive Garden in Times Square?

00:36:13.000 No, but I don't even know.

00:36:16.000 I have eaten at the TGI Fridays in Times Square because there's nothing more American than going to New York and eating at TGI Fridays.

00:36:25.000 Heck yeah.

00:36:26.000 You know, all those choices.

00:36:29.000 First of all, Applebee's is a step down, though.

00:36:31.000 Let's just be clear.

00:36:32.000 So there's like a whole, there's a, there's a hierarchy here.

00:36:34.000 Applebee's is a step below.

00:36:37.000 It goes Applebee's, TGI Fridays, Chili's, outback.

00:36:41.000 There's a higher.

00:36:41.000 Let's see what the chat is saying.

00:36:43.000 What does the chat say?

00:36:44.000 The chat agrees that Culver's is amazing and they're correct.

00:36:48.000 Culver's is the nectar of the gods or the ambrosia of the gods, whatever the Greek gods were eating.

00:36:53.000 And cheeseburger, obviously.

00:36:56.000 Obviously, obviously.

00:36:57.000 It's great.

00:36:57.000 They come in both white and yellow cheese.

00:36:59.000 You got to have both.

00:37:01.000 I was going to make a point.

00:37:03.000 Let me make a point.

00:37:04.000 So just out of all of our six different choices that we had in the Midwest, and Blake knows exactly what I'm talking about being from the Midwest, like going out, going to Chili's, right?

00:37:15.000 It's just like a very Midwest thing, okay?

00:37:18.000 Is that we would never dare to go to Red Lobster.

00:37:21.000 Let's just, it's just, it's just, you take your life in your own hands.

00:37:25.000 This whole idea of mass producing mollusks and acting as if that there's no downside to that is just that's all I got.

00:37:36.000 I want producing mollusks.

00:37:38.000 I just want to make sure you hear this story, Charlie, because it's a funny story and our viewers should also hear this story, which is that we don't know this is true.

00:37:47.000 This is a hypothesis.

00:37:49.000 It's probably false, but you know how it is.

00:37:51.000 If a story is funny enough, it is more likely to be true.

00:37:55.000 So everyone's debating why Red Lobster is going under.

00:37:59.000 Why is it going bankrupt?

00:38:01.000 But a big part of it is they offered this bottomless unlimited shrimp deal.

00:38:06.000 And it used to be a time-limited deal, but they just made it permanent.

00:38:08.000 They were like permanent.

00:38:09.000 You can get endless shrimp for $20.

00:38:12.000 And they lost their butts on this because it turns out shrimp is expensive.

00:38:17.000 You can learn this if you go to the grocery store.

00:38:19.000 And so if you offer unlimited shrimp, you bring in customers who want to eat unlimited amounts of shrimp.

00:38:26.000 And when they're allowed to eat unlimited shrimp, they eat an unlimited amount of shrimp.

00:38:32.000 This is a problem.

00:38:33.000 So what's going on here?

00:38:35.000 A theory that has been propounded.

00:38:38.000 It turns out one of the major owners of Red Lobster, they might even be the only owner, is Thai Union.

00:38:46.000 And Tai Union, along with being an investor in Red Lobster, is, I believe, also their shrimp supplier.

00:38:55.000 And so the thesis that is going around is they already, they'd run the numbers and they said Red Lobster is not going to make it.

00:39:02.000 It's going to go bankrupt.

00:39:04.000 And when it goes bankrupt, we're going to lose out to the creditors.

00:39:06.000 They're going to get the first call on assets and all of that.

00:39:09.000 So, how do we get value out of Red Lobster?

00:39:13.000 Shrimp.

00:39:14.000 We make Red Lobster buy as much shrimp as possible from us.

00:39:19.000 And so it is possible.

00:39:21.000 It is possible that the bottomless shrimp deal was Red Lobster's owner going, We need to get as much value as we can out of this dying corpse.

00:39:29.000 Shrimp, just nothing.

00:39:30.000 We're going to market shrimp.

00:39:32.000 We're going to commission songs about shrimp.

00:39:34.000 We're going to sell unlimited shrimp to everyone.

00:39:36.000 We're going to buy the shrimp from ourselves.

00:39:39.000 And then we just go until this ship hits the iceberg and sinks.

00:39:44.000 And if that was their plan, it apparently succeeded because they lost tens of millions of dollars in shrimp.

00:39:50.000 The numbers used to work.

00:39:52.000 And I want to just first say, I admire that idea of Red Lobster, which was we are going to bring a luxury item that is largely regional in Maine and Massachusetts.

00:40:06.000 And we want the everyday person to be able to have lobster.

00:40:09.000 Because in the country that I grew up in, you guys know this, and still it's the case, like luxury, like lobster is a big deal.

00:40:15.000 And to be able to afford it and cook it, I don't know if you guys have ever actually had to eat a lobster with your hands.

00:40:21.000 It is disgusting. 0.92

00:40:22.000 It's gross. 0.98

00:40:23.000 You need to take two showers after that.

00:40:26.000 A lot of time.

00:40:26.000 Oh, no, you know what I'm talking about, right, Jack?

00:40:28.000 It is, it's not for the faint of heart.

00:40:29.000 Like afterwards, like, what am I eating?

00:40:30.000 And it destroys your gut.

00:40:32.000 It's like not fun.

00:40:33.000 Lobsters are actually insects.

00:40:36.000 I thought they were mollusks.

00:40:37.000 I didn't know that.

00:40:39.000 It is a form of insect.

00:40:41.000 I think a common ancestor, if you accept a controversial theory that we won't get into here.

00:40:47.000 And so, and what I'm saying is that the idea of Red Lobster, which economically worked for a while, which was we're going to bring the unreachable insect to the everyday American, just turns out those numbers don't work.

00:41:04.000 And I can't, I imagine inflation crushed them.

00:41:07.000 I mean, I have to think it did.

00:41:09.000 I would say, oh, you can go.

00:41:11.000 No, they have 719 locations.

00:41:13.000 I mean, this is not a small closure.

00:41:14.000 55,000 employees.

00:41:16.000 Go ahead, Blake.

00:41:16.000 Well, I think I would take the optimistic view, which is I think you're correct.

00:41:21.000 These are the Midwest staples of, you know, if you're in a town of 15,000, 20,000, even like 100,000 people, for a lot of people, the nice restaurant in town is Red Lobster or Applebee's or Chili's.

00:41:35.000 But I think that's changing.

00:41:37.000 And I don't think it's because accessible restaurants are becoming inaccessible.

00:41:41.000 I think it's actually probably the opposite.

00:41:43.000 As we've heard from every liberal, the only reason to have immigration is so you have unlimited ethnic food.

00:41:49.000 But I think I would say in the last 20 years, I think restaurant food in America has gotten better.

00:41:55.000 And so what I think is actually happening is a lot of these, the most generic restaurants are getting just out-competed by restaurants that specialize more or are just more interesting, more distinctive in how they prepare their food.

00:42:10.000 So like lobster.

00:42:11.000 So yeah, we're losing red lobster, but if you drive literally half a mile down the road, just away from where we are, there's a place, Angie's lobster, and you can buy a lobster roll for like $9.

00:42:24.000 And that's even more affordable than red lobster.

00:42:27.000 And it's pretty good.

00:42:28.000 It's well prepared.

00:42:30.000 And I think you can find that in a lot of things.

00:42:32.000 So I think what we're actually seeing is it's gotten so competitive that really genuinely, really nice restaurants, you can go to them for about the same price point that you would get at Red Lobster.

00:42:44.000 So why go to Red Lobster?

00:42:46.000 So I take an optimistic view of this thing.

00:42:50.000 I think food is restaurants are always going to be here.

00:42:53.000 We're a rich country still.

00:42:56.000 No, I agree.

00:42:58.000 I look at Red Lobster.

00:42:59.000 So I actually went to Red Lobster growing up and I was always so excited to go to Red Lobster because they had pizza at the at the buffet, like the bar.

00:43:08.000 The salad bar actually had hot food and like endless pasta.

00:43:11.000 So I would just eat pizza and pasta the whole time.

00:43:14.000 But like I look at Red Lobster like I look at malls, you know, like that we're always hearing about the death of malls.

00:43:20.000 It's just like a shifting purchasing power.

00:43:23.000 And it's like, you know, when these things sprung onto the scene back in like probably the 80s, it was new.

00:43:30.000 It was novel.

00:43:31.000 It was this sort of elevated cuisine that had some kind of catch to it, whether it be like, you know, endless food, you know, all you can eat or whatever.

00:43:40.000 And it's just kind of outlived its usefulness.

00:43:42.000 Like we're, that's not the eating habits of Americans anymore.

00:43:45.000 We're talking about health food.

00:43:46.000 We're talking about, you know, getting stuff locally, seed to table.

00:43:51.000 Even poor people still think about this stuff.

00:43:54.000 They hear about it at least.

00:43:55.000 But the point is, you know, it's just outused, outlived its usefulness.

00:43:59.000 Now, there's probably inflation hit it.

00:44:01.000 Some other things hit it, but it's just tacky now.

00:44:03.000 I mean, that's, I think, what we all think about when we think of something like Red Lobster.

00:44:08.000 Do you really want to get your seafood from a mass chain?

00:44:13.000 I don't know a single person who would be like, yay, let's do that.

00:44:17.000 Yeah. 0.75

00:44:17.000 So then I suppose there's some silly racial angle to this too. 0.75

00:44:21.000 Is that right? 0.93

00:44:22.000 MSNBC says why Red Lobster's downfall hits differently for black communities.

00:44:28.000 I'm sorry.

00:44:28.000 Someone else has got to take this.

00:44:32.000 Of all the restaurant chains where I think of that's where black America spends a lot of their time is red lobster very popular.

00:44:40.000 I don't even know how you're trying to, I'm going through like my woke Olympics, you know, iterations in my head.

00:44:47.000 I'm like, how do you even get to there's other fast food chains that I would totally, I'm not going to say them, but you guys can, I want to read the subhead here because it's hard to read.

00:44:56.000 Restaurateur Bill Darden's decision to treat all diners the same should not have been a radical proposition, but it was.

00:45:03.000 And it mattered greatly to black people eating it.

00:45:06.000 I guess they might be referring to like the founder of it.

00:45:08.000 So maybe it was a place that integrated before others, but the implication of it is also that like red lobster was like holding the line against segregation or something.

00:45:19.000 But I guess if he if he genuinely was a pioneer in desegregation in the 60s, it says Bill Darden opened the first Red Lobster just south of Orlando in 1968, shortly before MLK Jr.'s assassination.

00:45:32.000 So, okay, if he was a pioneer, not good for him.

00:45:34.000 Good for him. 0.99

00:45:36.000 I don't want to degrade that, but I suspect the actual reason it hit harder is apparently, I guess, black people like shrimp, black people like crab. 0.99

00:45:45.000 Maybe Red Lobster was a place they were likely to get it.

00:45:48.000 I think they'll still be able to get it at other places.

00:45:51.000 I can see that in the South for sure, that if that's, you know, that seafood gumbo culture, you know, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, I just, I struggle to think when I think of Red Lobster, I think of like white Midwestern family celebrates graduation in northern Iowa and they drive 35 minutes and wait 20 minutes for a table and giddily get served lobster.

00:46:15.000 I'm not even accusing them.

00:46:16.000 Like that's what I think of Red Lobster.

00:46:18.000 I don't think of the hood.

00:46:20.000 So closing thoughts on this.

00:46:22.000 No, I, so, so I think this is really like obnoxious for a lot of reasons.

00:46:22.000 Yeah.

00:46:27.000 I, I, I think there's two things.

00:46:29.000 I do think actually as communities have shifted and neighbors have shifted, I just randomly in like my memory, I'm remembering three or four red lobsters.

00:46:38.000 One being where I grew up was kind of in an okay part of town, but is like the town has shifted.

00:46:44.000 It's now in kind of like the hood.

00:46:46.000 Like it's just not as nice in that area now.

00:46:48.000 So maybe there's more minorities there, I guess.

00:46:52.000 I'm imagining that trend is probably taking place at a macro scale where Red Lobster locations have not aged well.

00:47:01.000 Okay.

00:47:01.000 So I'm going to, I have to, according to our resident urban expert, when he, this is Beyonce's song, when he effed me good, I take his to Red Lobster because I slay.

00:47:20.000 Apparently, that's a thing.

00:47:23.000 Apparently, you know, when it when it really goes well for Beyonce, she takes him to Red Lobster.

00:47:30.000 So what you're saying is Beyonce hasn't been at Red Lobster in a long, long time.

00:47:35.000 Oh.

00:47:38.000 This is pre-country phase.

00:47:40.000 Yeah.

00:47:41.000 Yeah.

00:47:42.000 Just saying.

00:47:44.000 So apparently it's a thing.

00:47:46.000 I just, I learned, I learned something, learned something new.

00:47:48.000 If we want one final angle to this, I have noticed this trend.

00:47:53.000 Apparently, just a huge number of restaurants are, they're basically just going to like app delivery only because people don't like to go out to restaurants if you're like a neurotic Taylor Lorenz type person and can't eat out.

00:48:10.000 And then also like the decline, like the rise of crime in America means there's more likely to be like fights in restaurants.

00:48:16.000 I don't know, but that would be the last possible angle on it.

00:48:19.000 All right.

00:48:20.000 I think this is, no, this is, this is my last thing I'll say.

00:48:23.000 This is why I find it obnoxious.

00:48:24.000 I didn't get to my point.

00:48:25.000 Bill Maher actually, what was he on?

00:48:28.000 He was on Gutfeld and he said something along the lines of he was remarking on Joe Biden's commencement speech at Morehouse.

00:48:38.000 And he was like, basically, you know, black men have to be 10 times better at their job in order to get noticed. 0.99

00:48:45.000 And they were asked, well, Bill, what did you think of this?

00:48:47.000 He's like, well, listen, I don't think it's good to be talking about your country in a way like 50 years ago might have been appropriate.

00:48:56.000 We're not there anymore.

00:48:57.000 And Bill Maher actually even said, nowadays, being black can actually help you get a job.

00:49:01.000 Can we just be honest about that?

00:49:03.000 I thought that was great.

00:49:04.000 I mean, Bill Maher is a raging liberal.

00:49:06.000 He hates Trump, whatever.

00:49:07.000 That's a good point. 0.92

00:49:09.000 I still think when you see articles like this, though, they are all channeling this, like America's still this like dystopian racial, you know, nightmare and black people can't get a seat at a restaurant. 0.96

00:49:21.000 That's obnoxious, absurd. 0.96

00:49:22.000 It's just, it's dishonest. 0.91

00:49:24.000 It's just phony.

00:49:25.000 So it's like, okay, you don't got the local red lobster.

00:49:28.000 It became this like classy sort of like, you know, maybe black people reclaimed it as their little, their restaurant or something in the last 10 years. 0.98

00:49:37.000 I don't care. 0.99

00:49:38.000 Don't act like they can't get a damn seat somewhere. 0.99

00:49:40.000 That's just a silly thing to write down on and put ink to paper. 0.98

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00:50:48.000 Blake, can you navigate us through this final topic?

00:50:50.000 I know it roughly, but not.

00:50:52.000 For sure, for sure.

00:50:53.000 And I just sent the video clip, so hopefully, we'll get it soon, but I'm just going to narrate what it was.

00:50:57.000 So, Eric Prince, founder of Blackwater, former Navy SEAL, who we also just talked with recently, he was also on Tucker's show.

00:51:07.000 And Tucker, they start talking about unmanned drones, which have become far more prominent in the Ukraine-Russia war.

00:51:13.000 And Tucker asks him, in 10 years, what will unmanned drones be able to do?

00:51:18.000 And what Eric Prince says is, as an example of what they can do, is you could load a face into a drone's network, just like a person's face using facial recognition, and it could use network surveillance, other forms of available data to just find a person and it just flies into their brain and kills them or pops them in the head with like one little bullet out of a little thing.

00:51:44.000 You can have a drone, you know, the size of a cell phone and do this.

00:51:48.000 And that's basically the future: you can just have a drone.

00:51:50.000 They can all hover wherever.

00:51:51.000 They have a lot of battery life.

00:51:52.000 They can fly a long time.

00:51:54.000 And you can basically just have robots fly around and pop people in the head.

00:51:58.000 And the ramifications for this are actually insane to think about.

00:52:04.000 Let's just list a few of them.

00:52:05.000 Like, one, if you can do this, you can just have, you can build a drone for the price of an iPhone and use that to kill an enemy soldier in the front line.

00:52:15.000 And you can just send thousands of these out, thousands and thousands of drones.

00:52:19.000 And so you make it, you could just win a war with nothing but machines.

00:52:24.000 You make it so if you're a neocon who wants to do interventions, it's way easier to justify sweeping interventions if you're basically just sending a bunch of guys playing a video game in real life to pilot some drones to go blow people up.

00:52:39.000 It makes various forms of horrifying tyranny a lot easier.

00:52:43.000 Your China-style government can just have their drones patrolling everywhere and they're run by AI and they use visual surveillance to track people.

00:52:52.000 And for that matter, it's probably way easier to imagine a criminal use of this.

00:52:57.000 So let's imagine someone who hates Donald Trump and they make their little cell phone-sized drone and it just zooms past the Secret Service, pops Trump in the head.

00:53:06.000 Easy to imagine.

00:53:08.000 And that is the technological reality we are hurtling towards as quickly as possible.

00:53:13.000 Yeah, I mean, so I guess what is the deterrent there?

00:53:16.000 And let's just first, let's play the clip.

00:53:18.000 Let's play cut 145.

00:53:21.000 To do, do you think going in 10 years?

00:53:23.000 What will that look like?

00:53:26.000 You could load a face and between network surveillance and the facial recognition on that drone, find one person and fly into that person's head that fast.

00:53:39.000 Yeah.

00:53:39.000 Seriously?

00:53:40.000 So identity management, privacy will become even more essential.

00:53:46.000 You think about how many cameras, how much data is being constantly collected everywhere from street cameras, from door knock, from doorbell cameras, from facial recognition at the airport.

00:54:01.000 Privacy is really under attack.

00:54:03.000 But yeah, well, I've noticed.

00:54:06.000 So, Jack, your thoughts on this?

00:54:08.000 You're a military man.

00:54:10.000 Yeah, so there's another part pretty early on in that same podcast, which I just listened to all the way through.

00:54:16.000 I listened to a couple of his recent, a couple of his recent podcasts, and they've just been fantastic.

00:54:22.000 He switched now to a long form format, which I think is fantastic.

00:54:27.000 It might be, may have been that Vladimir Putin kind of pushed him in that direction, given his 30-minute spiel there.

00:54:35.000 But what Prince says is that in the history of warfare, you have step changes.

00:54:41.000 You have changes from the stick and the rock to melee weapons to projectile weapons, bow and arrow, et cetera, which leads up to mortars.

00:54:52.000 Then, obviously, you go from the sword to the firearm and the firearm.

00:54:57.000 And then we just have more and more advanced firearms.

00:54:59.000 A tank is essentially just a mobile firearm.

00:55:02.000 A lot of what aircraft do are essentially just airborne firearms.

00:55:07.000 But what a drone does is significantly different because it is a he essentially compares it to an IED.

00:55:16.000 What was the enemy's most effective weapon in the war on terror?

00:55:19.000 It was the IED.

00:55:21.000 Now you have IEDs which are airborne.

00:55:25.000 They can be directly directly flown through these FPV drones.

00:55:30.000 So that's first-person view.

00:55:31.000 That's not the gimbal camera that's usually on the bottom of the drones.

00:55:35.000 This is a, you know, you're, as kind of like Lake was saying, it's like you're playing a video game.

00:55:38.000 They actually use Xbox controllers and people can make flying IEDs that fly up to some have gone 90 miles an hour.

00:55:46.000 They've calculated.

00:55:48.000 And these are things where you've got to charge now an explosive that's the size of a can of soda.

00:55:55.000 And that's enough to kill somebody, or that's enough to severely mess up a tank because most tanks are not designed to actually protect against aerial attack.

00:56:05.000 It's just not something that's ever really been done before.

00:56:07.000 So the armor on a tank, this is a huge issue that people are doing in the war right now.

00:56:14.000 So they're putting up netting and they're putting up these like this like caging on the on the tanks because most actually all of the tanks on both sides were not designed for this type of drone attack.

00:56:25.000 But the bigger question then is if the tanks aren't effective anymore, now we're just back to trench warfare like World War I, which everybody realizes totally sucks.

00:56:32.000 And it was chemical weapons that were unleashed in that just absolute hellscape of the Great War on the Western Front.

00:56:40.000 And this became a huge game changer in World War I in the same way that drones will effectively lead to the point where, and as Blake is saying, imagine it's not just warfare, right?

00:56:52.000 Imagine when criminals get this, imagine when assassins get this, imagine when terrorists get a hold of this, which and the technology is so cheap.

00:57:00.000 It's so readily available.

00:57:02.000 It's so easy to use.

00:57:04.000 This is going to change the way the way we do everything in the world.

00:57:07.000 It's going to change everything.

00:57:09.000 Blake, your thoughts?

00:57:11.000 Yeah, I think he's right.

00:57:13.000 And another thought I've had is it's almost like upsetting to think about this.

00:57:18.000 We had our first run, like you said, in, you know, you go back to World War One.

00:57:22.000 When you think of the traditional, like traditional masculine military virtues, you know, being like just like physical strength and steadfastness and leadership, like all these things that used to make a soldier effective, they were hurt a lot when it just suddenly warfare was like, oh, a giant artillery shell drops on you and you just all get blown up by it.

00:57:43.000 IED goes off.

00:57:45.000 It doesn't matter how brave you were.

00:57:45.000 It just blows you up.

00:57:47.000 It doesn't matter how strong you were.

00:57:48.000 It doesn't matter how tough you were or how well trained you were.

00:57:51.000 You just got randomly blown up by a bomb on the side of the road.

00:57:54.000 And this is like a creepier, even more extreme version of this, where it's like, no matter how hard you've traded or trained, or for that matter, like how quality of a person and soldier you are, a robot run by AI or just piloted by someone who's essentially a video game player can just be vastly superior to you.

00:58:16.000 And I suppose it's just interesting to think about the ramifications for that.

00:58:19.000 Like we talk about the decline of the U.S. military because the U.S. military just loves having trannies now and they talk about their feelings and all the old values of the military that won World War II are just getting totally blotted out. 1.00

00:58:35.000 But maybe it won't matter because it turns out that trannies are really good at playing video games. 1.00

00:58:39.000 And what we actually just need is a bunch of people who can fly a robot at someone's head and blow it up.

00:58:45.000 So what you're pinpointing here, Blake, is very important.

00:58:47.000 And it's very similar to Churchill in one of his books.

00:58:51.000 And I think it was the Darvishes. 1.00

00:58:53.000 I never pronounced this correctly.

00:58:54.000 Blake will correct me.

00:58:56.000 Like a whirling, like a dervish, like the Islamist. 1.00

00:58:59.000 Yes, yes.

00:59:00.000 Yeah.

00:59:00.000 Yes.

00:59:01.000 So he witnessed, and he wrote in one of his 50 books how brave and courageous they were.

00:59:08.000 And they were pumping themselves up.

00:59:10.000 And the British Army basically had machine guns and they would just mow them down.

00:59:14.000 And the casualty ratio was like 200 dead dervishes to one from Britain.

00:59:22.000 And Churchill wrote, He's like, this is huge.

00:59:24.000 This is a big problem.

00:59:26.000 He's like, valor, courage, training, preparation matters less, and technology matters more.

00:59:33.000 I think we're now living through another sea change of that, where you're exactly right, Blake.

00:59:39.000 It doesn't matter if you're this like super alpha Navy SEAL as much anymore that has sophisticated training.

00:59:45.000 There'll always be a place for that.

00:59:47.000 It takes valor out of war and combat, which then asks the question, we're probably going to get more war.

00:59:55.000 If we can now declare war with just machines and robotics and the human cost can be minimal, the neocons are going to go crazy, right, Andrew?

01:00:06.000 Now it's basically a glorified Call of Duty game where you're just watching a screen and you're so disconnected from the price of war.

01:00:16.000 Wouldn't we get more war? 0.77

01:00:17.000 And I guess the provocative question for the panel, is this a good thing for humanity or a bad thing?

01:00:22.000 You can make an argument either way.

01:00:24.000 You'll get more war and potentially even more civilian death if they so choose. 0.63

01:00:28.000 Or you make the argument it's actually a better thing because you'll get less people actually dying in a theater of war.

01:00:32.000 Andrew.

01:00:34.000 I actually think if you lower the price of war, both from a technological standpoint and from a human cost standpoint, yeah, you probably will get more war simply because, at least in the short term, because this is going to be a disruptive technology, certainly, but then defenses will get more sophisticated on how to detect these drones, how to defend against them, how to neutralize them before they get to you.

01:00:57.000 So, you know, and that's happened in every single new technology of war, except for possibly, you know, nuclear power, right?

01:01:06.000 Because how do you neutralize that exactly?

01:01:09.000 But so there will be a countermeasure to this, but I, but I'm less thinking about neocons, and I'm thinking about, I'm thinking about, you know, some random, you know, tribe, tribal dispute, you know, in Africa.

01:01:22.000 And then, you know, the Iranians fly them in some drones just to cause a skirmish. 0.97

01:01:26.000 And next thing you know, you've got massive casualties at an unprecedented scale because they can just fly a drone into some village.

01:01:34.000 But maybe you're right, Charlie.

01:01:36.000 Maybe what the neocons are they're going to say is say, look, we need even more warmaking powers.

01:01:42.000 We need even more weapons to now defend against these defenseless groups all over the world as the Iranians and the Russians are flying in drone technology. 0.87

01:01:54.000 So maybe it justifies the neocons spending more in their mind and we will get more war.

01:01:54.000 I don't know.

01:02:00.000 But I just think about the short term.

01:02:02.000 Eventually this will be neutralized by some sort of countermeasure.

01:02:05.000 But in the short term, you're going to get a lot more war, I would think.

01:02:08.000 Humans want to wage war.

01:02:09.000 That is time.

01:02:12.000 That's as old as time.

01:02:15.000 Final thoughts, guys?

01:02:16.000 Well, we definitely have to answer.

01:02:20.000 Oh, sorry.

01:02:21.000 I was just going to say, I think we were going to do the same thing, but someone has an important question for you, Jack, and it's got to be answered.

01:02:28.000 All right, let's do it.

01:02:30.000 Well, here, you guys ask me the question and I'll ask this on behalf of it.

01:02:37.000 Looks like some sort of bizarre Polish word that I can't pronounce, so i'm going to intentionally say it wrong.

01:02:42.000 Kurza Jules for DJT asks Jack.

01:02:46.000 Hey Poso, are you coming to Nascar?

01:02:50.000 Oh boy, are you coming to Nascar with president Trump on sunday?

01:02:54.000 And they've got uh, a checkered flag.

01:02:59.000 Is, pres.

01:03:00.000 Is Jack going to Nascar with president Trump on sunday?

01:03:03.000 And is that why I am in Charlotte, North Carolina, right now.

01:03:08.000 Let me just tell you something, guys.

01:03:11.000 Yes, I am.

01:03:14.000 I will be there.

01:03:15.000 I'm in Charlotte now.

01:03:16.000 We were already planning to be here.

01:03:18.000 And I'm here right now with my dad for his 70th.

01:03:22.000 And we've just been going around.

01:03:23.000 We were going around today, meeting people.

01:03:26.000 And I mean, this is MAGA country.

01:03:28.000 Every single person we run out to.

01:03:30.000 And we were going by the campers and the RVs.

01:03:33.000 And we went to Michael Waltrip's tap room for dinner.

01:03:36.000 And there was a huge meet and greet going on there.

01:03:39.000 And people just keep saying they want Trump to win.

01:03:42.000 They want Trump back.

01:03:43.000 They want to know how to get involved.

01:03:45.000 And it's a huge cultural.

01:03:47.000 I've been going to NASCAR since I was 10 years old.

01:03:50.000 And this is a really, really cool event.

01:03:52.000 It's amazing that the president's going to be here.

01:03:53.000 I never took you to be a guy who would love swerving to the left, though.

01:04:00.000 Well, you see, you drive to the left so you can crash the people to your left.

01:04:05.000 Okay, that's fair.

01:04:06.000 That's fair.

01:04:06.000 All right.

01:04:07.000 That's a good answer.

01:04:08.000 Yeah, and there will be another left turn.

01:04:16.000 Is it like every time?

01:04:17.000 Turn left so many times.

01:04:18.000 You go right.

01:04:19.000 Hey, isn't NASCAR woke now?

01:04:22.000 I thought NASCAR went woke.

01:04:24.000 Yeah, did they finally go to NASCAR itself?

01:04:30.000 Yeah, NASCAR itself as an organization definitely needs to be needs to be taken over and reconquista.

01:04:39.000 NASCAR needs to reconquista because they did this thing too, where not only did they go woke, they started telling people like certain flags you're not allowed to bring.

01:04:48.000 They started telling people that, oh, we're going to have mandatory break periods now at like certain labs.

01:04:53.000 Whereas before, a lot of what it comes down to is this.

01:04:56.000 And yeah, I know the knockout is like, oh, you're just turning left.

01:04:59.000 And, but something that I got by actually going to the NASCAR races is that back in the day, it used to be about the strategy of, okay, what tires do you use?

01:05:08.000 And when do you change your tires and how much gas do you have left?

01:05:10.000 And then all of these different little, these different requirements that you have to dig into.

01:05:15.000 Then, okay, when do you make your pit?

01:05:17.000 How aggressively do you race?

01:05:18.000 This guy right here, Dale Earnhardt, was probably the most aggressive racer ever in mainstream NASCAR.

01:05:23.000 And so you, and obviously the greatest champion of all time, and number three, baby, number three.

01:05:29.000 And the idea that they're going to just, you know, lay all these restrictions on that and lay restrictions on the audience, it's ridiculous. 0.95

01:05:36.000 It's awful. 0.96

01:05:36.000 Absolutely awful. 0.96

01:05:38.000 But that fans, by and large, are our we're going to make sure they vote.

01:05:46.000 Yeah, and that I'm really President Trump going is a very smart move.

01:05:52.000 And you're going to have what, how many people attend, Jack, 100,000 plus?

01:05:55.000 Is that right?

01:05:55.000 Minimum?

01:05:56.000 Easily, easily.

01:05:58.000 Yeah.

01:05:59.000 And then it's mega country.

01:06:01.000 Yeah.

01:06:01.000 And it's a no-brainer.

01:06:02.000 It's just like entering into another rally.

01:06:04.000 North Carolina matters.

01:06:05.000 And Charlotte, let's not fool ourselves.

01:06:08.000 There'll be a lot of Georgians there too.

01:06:10.000 A lot of Georgians making the road trip to Charlotte, North Carolina.

01:06:14.000 So, all right, guys, thank you for watching today.

01:06:17.000 Make sure you subscribe on Rumble and watch our respective shows, Jack the Sobic Every Day on Human Events Daily, our program at 12 noon Eastern daily.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - May 25, 2024

THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 46 — Trump in the Bronx? Drone War? Dead Lobster?

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