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00:01:37.000Charlie Kirk is currently wrapping up a few assignments for the People's Convention around the building, though we are on site and his arrival is imminent.
00:02:02.000Well, I mean, we've gone through this so much on Charlie's show and on your show and everything else.
00:02:08.000There's six states that we've known coming into this election that will ultimately decide who becomes president: Arizona, Wisconsin, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Nevada.
00:02:20.000Statistically, Arizona, Wisconsin, we've landed on statistically are the most important.
00:02:28.000Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan are all right there.
00:02:32.000Michigan has been elusive for conservatives because it has some of the worst election laws in the country.
00:02:38.000However, recent polling has shown that people are pretty pissed off here.
00:02:43.000And for that reason, and we can see the slide that's happening with the Democrat Party, especially the African-American community and the black community.
00:03:43.000So this is where we have to look at it.
00:03:45.000I'm not comfortable until we get to like polls that are like 12, 13, 14 points, where I know when we know Democrats are fighting as hard as they are, funding tens of millions of dollars in that state.
00:04:17.000I was thinking about why we're in Detroit specifically.
00:04:20.000And what I do like to point out to people is there is this sort of narrative with 2020 that we lost because they had a ton of ballots come out in these big cities.
00:04:29.000But actually, it wasn't like that in Michigan or even in Pennsylvania.
00:04:34.000If you look at the county by county results and how they changed from 2016 to 2020, Wayne County, which is where Detroit is, it was one point more Democrat than 2016, which was basically nothing compared to the overall shifts.
00:04:48.000All the other counties in Michigan, Macomb County, Oakland County, Livingston County, Washtenaw County, which is where Ann Arbor is, they all swerved a lot more.
00:04:57.000And so you could kind of see in Wayne County, in Philadelphia, where you have the building blocks of what we're hopefully seeing now, which is where you have non-white voters, younger voters, sort of marginal voters, low-propensity voters, being much more open to voting for Trump than they've ever been in the past and for Republicans generally, too.
00:05:43.000Is that you have the Democrats have tapped themselves out in most of these deep blue areas, but you have these other deep blue areas in places like Grand Rapids, for example.
00:05:53.000And that's where they haven't excavated enough votes.
00:05:56.000And so that's where you see a lot of places outside of Wayne County.
00:06:00.000And the same goes for all the other states, right?
00:06:02.000Which is that they're finding the deep blue pockets, whether it's the colleges and universities, whether it's extrapolating out as many of those votes as they can from the senior communities.
00:06:12.000They're doing that all across the rest of the state.
00:06:15.000And that's why you saw that shift really outside nothing.
00:06:19.000There was really no change in Wayne, right?
00:06:20.000Because they already had taken, they moved out beyond Wayne in 2020, and they had to do that.
00:08:31.000You know, it's like, Tyler, what are we doing in Detroit?
00:08:33.000So he was giving us the rundown from that perspective of this is a Rust Belt swing state.
00:08:38.000It's a state that if we can pick, if we can pick up Michigan, that requires the Democrats to have to put funding all over the place in areas that they wish they wouldn't have to.
00:08:48.000And it currently looks like, although day to day, there might be some shakeups, it does look like it might be the best Rust Belt pickup for us.
00:09:32.000What I will say about the blue wall strategy is you need to compete in all three.
00:09:37.000You have to make all three close, or else you allow Joe Biden to have way too much reason to allow you know which one that you like the best.
00:09:44.000You have to keep the other campaign guessing.
00:10:09.000And so we don't exactly know what that's going to look like.
00:10:12.000Pennsylvania, structurally, from a voter registration standpoint, looks out of the best out of the three.
00:10:17.000However, I will say, though, out of the three, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, the polling is the worst or the toughest, but it is the hardest to cheat of the three.
00:14:21.000And they went on a crazy, they spent like three full days calling every major convention center in what the states, the parameters, from Des Moines to Columbus, Ohio to Cleveland to Detroit, to Grand Rapids, Kalamazoo.
00:14:31.000And the only space that had an opening of all of them, in the parameters, we said, because we wanted to do it before the RNC, we wanted to do it in June, was Detroit.
00:14:38.000And we said, are we crazy enough to do an event in Detroit?
00:14:41.000We have like no full-time staff in Michigan.
00:14:52.000I wanted to, and this was before October 7th.
00:14:54.000So this is before, this was before the Israel thing, which has materialized in the unaffiliated Muslim vote here in Michigan, which might have, it puts it even more on play for Trump, right?
00:15:03.000The tragedy of October 7th, which has been a political nightmare for Democrats, before the uncommitted type movement.
00:15:08.000And so as the months have gone by, the more promising Michigan polls were like, yo, we're hosting like it in the middle of the battleground state in like the central nervous system of the Democrat Party.
00:15:19.000And we, by the way, we have confirmation.
00:15:21.000Three things have happened in this convention center.
00:17:28.000Yeah, and so understand that the naming the People's Convention was done while Rana was still chairman.
00:17:34.000And so the other thought was like, hey, we might have to put on our own RNC because the RNC in Milwaukee might be like Luster.
00:17:39.000Now it actually is ending up being like a super compliment where the RNC is in Milwaukee and we're in Detroit.
00:17:44.000I mean, if you were from a 30,000-foot view, who's doing the summer better from an event standpoint, the Democrats or Trump?
00:17:50.000Like, we're doing it way better than Democrats.
00:17:51.000No, it makes sense because they don't have an equivalent of this at all anyway.
00:17:54.000Yeah, because now you've got your balance out.
00:17:57.000Obviously, we're all targeting the Midwest and we're targeting the Rust Belt, but we're strategically targeting the Rust Belt, whereas they're in Chicago, which is not an area where they need at all.
00:18:07.000There's also to me something very funny about it where obviously the party convention is your biggest show of the summer for each party.
00:18:21.000And it's also, we wanted it to turning point way.
00:18:23.000And the name is aptly put because, I mean, you guys will both be in Milwaukee and we'll get you guys tickets, but it's very hard for the commoner to be able to get tickets to the convention.
00:18:32.000So the idea was: how do we do an event for the everyday person, the citizen, that they otherwise would not be able to have access to?
00:18:41.000And that's why we call it the People's Convention.
00:18:43.000And we put together an amazing, and I will give President, this is the most President Trump story ever, which I had a scheduling request in, and they were busy.
00:19:22.000He was in, he went, visited Congress today, you remember, and he met Glenn Youngkin.
00:19:26.000Okay, apparently what he was talking about with Glenn Youngkin was, of course, he's like, you know, we're going to win Virginia and all that.
00:19:48.000It's our job to make sure the resources go to the right spot.
00:19:50.000But him thinking he can win anywhere is why Donald Trump is who he is.
00:19:55.000There is a deep connection, though, between President Trump and the state of Michigan because as longtime Trump supporters and followers would know, and I know Charlie knows as well, but said, Charlie, where was the final rally held in the 2016?
00:20:27.000If you get B-roll from that, one second, Blake.
00:20:29.000That was the one where certain people on the media said he's going to win.
00:20:34.000That was the one where the people that were in the traveling crew, because I was at the New Hampshire one too, and that's where Bill Belichick endorsed Donald Trump.
00:21:37.000They should start in Florida, go to Philadelphia, do a rally in Michigan, then do a rally in Phoenix, and then close the night out in Vegas.
00:21:44.000Well, the difference is that Vegas and Phoenix didn't used to be quite as important as they are now.
00:21:49.000No, no, well, in 2020, but in 2020, they didn't think they could win Nevada.
00:21:53.000In 2020, no one was able to swallow the pill.
00:21:56.000And I know this because I was in the White House when I told Jared about it, that all of a sudden, Georgia and Arizona could be flipped.
00:22:02.000I remember I was in the hall of the White House on election night, and I saw Jared as we were going to the bathroom.
00:22:06.000He was in a different room than I was in.
00:22:08.000I was like, I don't think we're going to win Georgia.
00:24:14.000Lauren and her layover to Detroit did a layover in Milwaukee and then did a site visit for the RNC because we have this huge presence we're doing at the RNC.
00:26:16.000They're talking about all of these conventions that are going on.
00:26:20.000They're putting the onus on you for turning point action.
00:26:22.000They're putting the onus on Trump for Milwaukee.
00:26:24.000Nobody's talking about the Democrats in Chicago because everyone knows, and the dirty little thing they're trying to worry about, Blake, is they don't want a repeat of Chicago 1968.
00:27:49.000That's what I mean that Josh Shapiro, the village idiot who is acting for governor, and Al Schmidt, the traitor, the absolute turncoat trader who I and many others helped get elected in Philadelphia many moons ago as a Republican city commissioner is now acting as the Pennsylvania Secretary of State under Josh Shapiro, the village.
00:28:23.000It's just like somebody was telling me back home that it's really deep in the system and like the touchscreens, like you can't find it.
00:28:29.000And but the problem is, though, in 67 of the 67 counties of Pennsylvania, so that's not just the Pennsylvania dynamic we were just talking about.
00:28:37.00067 out, so 100% of counties, people are picking R.
00:28:41.000It's breaking red and people are saying R.
00:28:44.000Now, the problem, though, that this creates is that by dint of what we just explained, those are people who don't vote.
00:29:22.000So if we apply that logic to a lesser extent to Pennsylvania, in addition, Trump has a love affair with the working class in Western Pennsylvania, right, Jack?
00:29:31.000He does not have that stracking country, baby.
00:30:49.000So, I mean, that right there, percentage-wise, is actually better than Michigan, if I'm not mistaken.
00:30:53.000Michigan was the worst of the three blue wall states for Trump in 2020, if I'm not mistaken.
00:30:59.000It could be Michigan, it is just so hard to predict.
00:31:02.000I can definitely see the path where it's the breaking point state, just because, as we've said, not just that the Arab Americans, Muslim Americans, there's more of them and they're angry, but just they're angry and there's so many candidates that are specifically playing to them.
00:31:20.000It's that like three different third-party candidates have decided to make Michigan the state where they're going to try to make a big splash.
00:33:38.000So a very funny thing is historically, of course, Republican voters are more likely to vote for Libertarians and Democrats are more likely to vote for Greens.
00:33:46.000So the opposing parties are the best legal support those parties have.
00:33:50.000And so traditionally, Republicans try to do stuff to keep the Libertarians off the ballot because they worry about losing votes.
00:33:56.000Democrats try to keep Greens off the ballot.
00:33:58.000And in 2020, there was a particularly bad divergence in terms of Democrats successfully keeping the Greens off the ballot, which they did in Pennsylvania.
00:34:07.000It was extremely shady what they did and extremely underhanded.
00:34:37.000So this time you have RFK, you have Cornell West, you have Jill Stein, and you have the gay race communist Libertarian, who is potentially a protest voter.
00:34:47.000Charlie, there's one more state like that.
00:35:00.000Starting to sense a little bit of a pet trend.
00:35:03.000However, if you have Green now in Arizona and you have Green now in Georgia and you have Green in Pennsylvania, you might be in a better spot.
00:35:51.000And just as a general rule, one, I think the Trump campaign in general, they respond to the energy of fighting in more states, being more go-getter about it.
00:36:01.000And also, there's diminishing returns when you just spend a ton in one state.
00:36:05.000I think you don't get as much out of it as you do from just take a shot on all three of them.
00:36:12.000Of course, what I would also like is if we can get our progress that we want to make on the you know what issue, then we don't need to win any of Nebraska.
00:38:13.000And we're going to do that right away.
00:38:14.000First thing in office, because those people that have jobs in restaurants, whatever the job may be, a tipping job, we're not going after for taxes anymore.
00:42:55.000Well, so, I mean, obviously you're asking the question like in the United States, but but so when I lived in when I lived in China or what any of the time I spent in Asia, tipping is like it's oh, Europe, it's like affordably different.
00:43:09.000And like when Americans leave 20%, they think you're like the coolest person ever.
00:43:14.000In Japan, you say like the person who wants it.
00:46:33.000They add it automatically, that automatically added in, and you have to.
00:46:38.000You have if you go too fast and all of a sudden it's like it's 20 built in.
00:46:42.000The place I got lunch today had 18 gratuity automatically for all dine in and they Like, hide it on the bill, like when you get the final thing and then ask for a tip on top of that.
00:46:51.000And I was, I raised my eyebrow at that one.
00:49:36.000And I've, you've heard stories of this where he's gone in somewhere and he's had an event and it's like everyone backstage gets $100 who's working there.
00:54:18.000So gift cards like 20 bucks at Starbucks or maybe even 10.
00:54:24.000You know, $10 Starbucks gift card or whatever it is.
00:54:26.000And then suddenly your entire service.
00:54:28.000And by the way, even if she doesn't end up being your, you know, because you're like in a different section or whatever, she might not be the attendant for your section.
00:54:37.000And then, and they're going to know who, like, they know who's on the plane, right?
00:54:40.000Like you know, the big guy who's looking at uh, who's watching thought crime in um, you know, in uh, in row six was the guy who gave the gift card, and so it's like this cheat code that, when you first get on, that we should do that.
00:55:58.000I will say there is a stereotype of a common Democrat voting block that they don't tip.
00:56:04.000Great yeah, I know, the trans community really is them too.
00:56:08.000Yeah, I don't know, I could I, I can also just see a lot of.
00:56:11.000There's certainly like the irate libertarian type might be, like I don't tip because it's not required of me, it's not in the contract or something, but totally normally, like you think of conservatives as caring more about like social norms, as it were, and it is a social custom and norm.
00:58:07.000There are people that totally game the system.
00:58:09.000I do, but I do think it is very clear.
00:58:11.000Like, I don't know, like in the gospels, there's a lot of beggars who make appearances, and it doesn't necessarily dwell super hard on whether they're like virtuous or deserving or not.
00:58:19.000So I feel it's one of those things, if you feel moved to do it, you should, it's probably not the end of the world to help them out a bit.
00:58:25.000Even if it is even if it's probably a waste, even if it's almost certainly a waste, I don't think it's a bad impulse to do sometimes.
00:58:33.000So I want to tell you about PDS debt relief right now.
01:00:47.000So the SPLC, they laid off 25% of their staff.
01:00:50.000They're trying to focus more on racial justice or whatever it is.
01:00:54.000And the union of SPLC Employee Union, because of course they have one, did an extremely irate tweet about it.
01:01:03.000Today, SPL Center, an organization with nearly a billion dollars in reserves, given an F rating by Charity Watch for hoarding donations, gutted its staff by a quarter.
01:01:16.000And they went on quite the long screed about it.
01:01:20.000This will have a catastrophic impact on the organization's work in support of immigrants seeking justice.
01:01:26.000Well, so this is what's actually really funny.
01:01:28.000So, Charlie, going into the 2024 election, where we know obviously immigration is probably going to be the number one issue on the Republican side that's pushed, the SPLC is actually slashing all of their immigrant or immigration-focused workers because apparently it's gotten so bad that even the SPLC can't hire these people anymore.
01:01:52.000And so what is the reason they're getting for this?
01:01:54.000They have a huge endowment, a $400 million endowment.
01:01:59.000I mean, they say the standard, you know, they're refocusing their work, all the butt covering stuff.
01:02:05.000What I think is funny to imagine is to just think of what the SPLC is.
01:02:09.000So the SPLC, just in case anyone doesn't remember, by the way, SPLC, Southern Poverty Law Center, they exist to basically go around and they warn against hate as a threat.
01:02:19.000And so they label every conservative group under the sun as either a hate group or adjacent to a hate group.
01:02:25.000And then they collaborate with the FBI and government.
01:02:27.000So this is how they launder the whole thing, where they'll be able to say like Turning Point USA, which has platformed this person, labeled a hate speaker by the Southern Poverty Law Center, who are neutral experts.
01:02:40.000What they actually are is they're an organization, I think they were started in the 70s, and they were started by Morris Dees, who was basically a junk mail god.
01:02:49.000He was extremely good at writing junk mail that would make like liberal housewives freak out and want to donate money.
01:02:55.000So in the 70s, it was all like the KKK is going to come back and kill everyone.
01:03:00.000And then in the 90s, he got, you know, he's, especially in the Trump era, they made tons of money.
01:03:05.000And it's basically send junk mail to people and say, Donald Trump is Hitler and he's going to do the American Holocaust unless you give us money to stop him.
01:03:13.000And they made tons of money doing this, hundreds of millions of dollars.
01:03:16.000And even in the 90s, you had liberals writing magazine pieces about this where they would just say, this company or this charity is a scam.
01:03:25.000They're just piling up tons of money by scaring people.
01:03:28.000The amount of work they do compared to it is minimal.
01:03:31.000Morris Dees himself is this hilarious figure.
01:03:33.000I think he's been married seven times, very old-timey type of liberal.
01:03:38.000And in 2019, they kind of ginned up a Me Too scandal against him in his late 70s or early 80s, and they sent him to a farm in upstate New York, and he hasn't been seen since.
01:04:14.000No one held them accountable about it at all.
01:04:17.000And what I think is going on now is they're now just fighting over the giant pile of money that has been left behind because they took out the guy who actually built the SPLC into this giant money-raising machine.
01:04:46.000And I think they hired a bunch of dumbs who don't know how to make the money.
01:04:49.000And they're just sort of staggering around and trying to find ways to spend it and give themselves bonuses and get rid of the people who they don't want to be getting part of the take.
01:04:59.000And it would be really amazing if they were, you know, headquartered in a red state that could investigate them for all of this.
01:05:03.000But I guess, you know, I assume Montgomery, Alabama must just be in some deep blue state and this can't happen.
01:10:17.000I just realized there was a South Park special that was making fun of these guys, and that's the only thing I know about them.
01:10:23.000There was an entire thing where the subplot was an influencer who had their own energy drink line that people were killing themselves for and stuff.
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