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THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 52 — How Do You Say Kamala? What’s Wrong With DEI? Did the Race Just Reset?


Summary

In this episode of Thought Crime, Jack and Andrew try to figure out how to correctly pronounce the name Kamala Harris. Will they be able to do it? Or will it be a hate crime if they mispronounce the name of the first African-American woman elected to the U.S. Senate in 2020, Kamala Harris ? What's the difference between Kamala and Kamala ? What does Kamala mean? How do they pronounce Kamala? What do they do with Kamala s name? Why do they call her Kamala, not Kamala. And what does it have to do with a woman who is running for president in 2020? Join the conversation by using the hashtag on social media and and find us on Insta to join the conversation! Thank you so much for listening to Thought Crime! and as always, stay tuned for more Thought Crime episodes coming soon! -T.P.M. Subscribe, Like, Share, and Share on whatever social media platform you re listening to this podcast! You can be a Friend, a Patron, a Reviewer, a Shoutout, a Share and a Review! a Review, and a Share with a Friend of the Thought Crime Podcast! or a Friend in any medium you like what you re consuming this podcast. . Thanks for listening and Share it! Peace, Love, Blessings, Cheers, Kristy, Amy, Jenna, AJ, Jack, Andrew, Kristian, Tyler, and Mike, Sarah, and Sarah, - P.J., Sarah, J.J. -Kristian, Evan, AJ & Sarah - Thank you for listening, Cheeroy, Joe, and Cheerio, AJ and Joe, Thank you! -Alyssa and Joe -PJ. Thank you SO MUCH! -J.P., AJ & Joe, Amy & Joe & Sarah, Sarah & Joe. -Josie, Amy and Joe - Thank You, Joe & Joe! - Joe, Joe and Joe & Mike, Mike, P.B. - - Sarah, Mike & Joe - J. & Jake, Jake, and J. -Joe, J-J. & J.A. - Thankyou, Sarah -JACO, JACO & J-A. & OJ, JB, & JK, & AJ, Sr.


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00:01:17.000 Okay, everybody.
00:01:18.000 Welcome to ThoughtCrime.
00:01:21.000 It's been a while.
00:01:21.000 We have Jack and Andrew here.
00:01:22.000 Tyler should be coming in at some point.
00:01:24.000 All right.
00:01:25.000 I'm going to ask the question.
00:01:26.000 I mean this.
00:01:27.000 I don't mean any disrespect.
00:01:28.000 I don't know the answer to this, but I refuse to do what they tell me to do.
00:01:32.000 How do you say it?
00:01:33.000 Is it Kamala?
00:01:35.000 Kamala?
00:01:37.000 Kamala?
00:01:38.000 What is the action?
00:01:39.000 Everyone says, Charlie, you're mispronouncing it.
00:01:41.000 And I do it different every time.
00:01:43.000 Andrew, how do you say it?
00:01:46.000 Kamala.
00:01:48.000 Wait, no, I say Camela.
00:01:50.000 I say Camela.
00:01:58.000 So wait, is it Camela?
00:02:01.000 Camela is how I say it.
00:02:03.000 How do you say it, Jack?
00:02:05.000 I say Camela, like so it rhymes with comma, like when you use a comma in a sentence, Camela.
00:02:11.000 Sir, Mika Brzezinski is saying, Mika Brzezinski is saying that if you mispronounce a name, that, uh, that it's, it's a hate crime.
00:02:19.000 So Mika Brzezinski and, uh, John Scarborough over there are very, very upset if we mispronounce a name.
00:02:26.000 All right.
00:02:27.000 So, uh, now Kamala, there's Kamala, Kamala, and Kamala.
00:02:34.000 Those are the three options.
00:02:37.000 Or Camilla?
00:02:38.000 No, there's nobody says Camilla.
00:02:40.000 No, Camilla's the, uh, the Boris Johnson.
00:02:42.000 No, wait.
00:02:43.000 Yeah, Queen Camilla.
00:02:44.000 Queen Camilla, not Boris Johnson.
00:02:45.000 The, um, King Charles's wife is Camilla.
00:02:47.000 But that's the three, right?
00:02:49.000 It's Kamala, Kamala, and Kamala.
00:02:54.000 Wait, wait, I have chat TPT up.
00:02:56.000 Let me ask chat TPT.
00:02:57.000 Can you hear this?
00:02:58.000 Hold on.
00:02:58.000 Can you hear this if I do this?
00:03:00.000 Maybe.
00:03:02.000 We're not hearing anything.
00:03:02.000 Nope.
00:03:03.000 You can't hear it?
00:03:04.000 No.
00:03:05.000 No, what did it say?
00:03:06.000 Kamala.
00:03:07.000 It's saying Kamala Harris is pronounced Kamala Harris.
00:03:13.000 But I don't like the way that he pronounces Harris.
00:03:15.000 I say Harris, not Harris.
00:03:17.000 Harris?
00:03:18.000 But hold on, but just looking at it, but looking at it phonetically, why all of a sudden do we have the Allah?
00:03:25.000 The Kamala.
00:03:26.000 I don't understand where that comes from.
00:03:28.000 It's Kam.
00:03:29.000 Allah.
00:03:29.000 Kam.
00:03:30.000 Allah.
00:03:32.000 Right?
00:03:32.000 Kam.
00:03:33.000 Allah.
00:03:34.000 Going back to chat to UPT for this.
00:03:37.000 What does Kamala mean?
00:03:41.000 The name Kamala has roots in several languages and cultures, with meanings often associated with beauty and nature, just like Kamala Harris.
00:03:50.000 In Sanskrit, Kamala means lotus, a symbol of beauty, purity, and enlightenment.
00:03:55.000 In Hindi, Kamala often refers to the lotus flower.
00:03:59.000 Ah, but here we go.
00:04:00.000 In Arabic, while not as common, Kamala can also mean perfection or completeness.
00:04:06.000 There you go.
00:04:07.000 Perfect fit.
00:04:08.000 Couldn't think of a better description.
00:04:10.000 Purity.
00:04:11.000 Lotus flower.
00:04:11.000 Got it.
00:04:13.000 Yeah, purity.
00:04:13.000 When I think of purity, I think of Kamala.
00:04:16.000 So, I get all these emails here of people that are, oh, you're mispronouncing it, you're mispronouncing it.
00:04:24.000 Does this matter, guys?
00:04:26.000 Because I don't know the actual, because I've heard her say before, Kamala.
00:04:31.000 I genuinely can say, none of us mean to be doing something racist by not knowing the actual pronunciation of the name.
00:04:39.000 I've been exposed to this woman for however many years.
00:04:42.000 I live in California.
00:04:43.000 I still don't actually know what the right one is.
00:04:46.000 It's a genuine question.
00:04:47.000 Wasn't there something?
00:04:49.000 Somebody get a clip from MSNBC with her.
00:04:55.000 Ryan, find a clip.
00:04:56.000 This is Cut 40.
00:04:57.000 This is Mika Brzezinski trying to scold us for not pronouncing it correctly.
00:05:02.000 Whatever the way is.
00:05:03.000 Play Cut 40.
00:05:04.000 Um, and I've heard from inside Republican circles and right-wing media that the hate campaign against Kamala Harris has begun.
00:05:12.000 You'll notice they purposefully pronounce her name wrong.
00:05:16.000 They say Kamala.
00:05:17.000 They do it all the time.
00:05:19.000 It is on purpose.
00:05:20.000 But the talk is to start that hate campaign and get it going and start it churning.
00:05:26.000 Now here is her saying her own name, PlayCut41.
00:05:30.000 Good afternoon.
00:05:31.000 I want to welcome these leaders for coming in to have this very important discussion about some of the most pressing issues of our time.
00:05:43.000 I am Kamala Harris.
00:05:44.000 My pronouns are she and her.
00:05:46.000 I am a woman sitting at the table wearing a blue suit.
00:05:50.000 Wait, wait, wait.
00:05:51.000 I heard Kamala Harris there.
00:05:53.000 I didn't hear Kamala.
00:05:54.000 What are you talking about?
00:05:56.000 If you anchor it in comma, it kind of helps you.
00:06:00.000 Kamala Harris.
00:06:02.000 K-A-M-A-L-A.
00:06:04.000 Yeah, I heard Kamala Harris.
00:06:05.000 That's the way.
00:06:07.000 But then shouldn't it be spelled K-O-M, not K-A-M?
00:06:12.000 It's an ethnic name.
00:06:16.000 Which ethnicity does she claim, again?
00:06:18.000 No, that's the Indian part.
00:06:20.000 She's South Asian and Jamaican.
00:06:23.000 It's Kamala.
00:06:24.000 Kamala.
00:06:25.000 Yeah, I got it.
00:06:26.000 Thank you, Jack.
00:06:26.000 That was like the key right there.
00:06:29.000 I'm going to keep saying it.
00:06:31.000 I don't believe it.
00:06:32.000 I'm going to say Kamala.
00:06:33.000 I don't believe it.
00:06:34.000 So, it doesn't make any sense.
00:06:37.000 We tried, folks.
00:06:38.000 We tried.
00:06:39.000 It doesn't.
00:06:40.000 I look at it.
00:06:41.000 It says Kamala.
00:06:42.000 But here's the thing that I can't stand.
00:06:43.000 I've been saying this the same way now for five years and no one has cared until she becomes the high priestess of the Democrat Party.
00:06:50.000 I actually think about it every time you say it.
00:06:53.000 Oh, really?
00:06:53.000 I actually think about it.
00:06:55.000 I really do, yeah.
00:06:56.000 I don't even mean disrespect, it's just so ingrained into how I say it.
00:07:02.000 No, I've also known that whenever anyone has ever brought up, like, oh, Charlotte's actually said it this way, that you'll hear it once and then you'll go right back to the way.
00:07:10.000 Every single time.
00:07:12.000 And this is literally, like, it doesn't matter who it is, it's just, that's Charlotte.
00:07:17.000 No, this is very true about Charlotte.
00:07:20.000 Yeah.
00:07:20.000 And somebody has to prep him for interviews and we're getting like a name pronunciation and I'll like, I'll call him in the break and I'll give him the name pronunciation.
00:07:28.000 It'll come out like basically whatever his default was.
00:07:33.000 So, uh, but, but, but on, on the other hand, as a guy who's got a last name, that's hard to say in English, Charlie's always gotten it right.
00:07:41.000 There you go.
00:07:43.000 There you go.
00:07:45.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:07:46.000 So there you go.
00:07:47.000 No, some people try to rhyme it, so Jack Posobiec, no Posobiec.
00:07:51.000 No, I mean, no disrespect, but this whole, like, control of language thing, can we have some, like, phonetic, you know what she should do?
00:07:57.000 She should have her yard signs and then have, like, the phonetic spelling underneath.
00:08:01.000 Com- That wouldn't help.
00:08:02.000 Com- a- la.
00:08:04.000 Is that what it, right?
00:08:05.000 It's Kamala.
00:08:07.000 Or is it Kamala?
00:08:08.000 No, just make a picture of a comma.
00:08:10.000 Like, put a picture of a comma.
00:08:12.000 Is it Kamala or Kamala?
00:08:16.000 Well, no, I'm not sure.
00:08:18.000 We're like writing a musical now.
00:08:19.000 Kamala.
00:08:20.000 Kamala.
00:08:20.000 I got it.
00:08:21.000 I got it now.
00:08:22.000 Great.
00:08:22.000 Kama.
00:08:23.000 So now we know.
00:08:23.000 Kama.
00:08:24.000 All right.
00:08:25.000 But hey, Charlie, here's what else is racist.
00:08:27.000 We have to play 133 because they're now on CNN.
00:08:31.000 No, on CNN, they're saying that if you call her a DEI candidate, it's akin to saying the N word.
00:08:36.000 But then we have another clip.
00:08:38.000 Then Joe Biden literally calls her the shining star of his DEI policy.
00:08:43.000 So play Cut 133.
00:08:44.000 This is a right-wing campaign that's going to be racist, misogynistic against the vice president.
00:08:49.000 They want to call her a DEI president, a DEI candidate.
00:08:52.000 She has more experience than Trump and JD Vance combined, times a million, right?
00:08:57.000 So these are just racist dog whistles.
00:08:59.000 Whenever you hear DEI, I want you to think about the N-word.
00:09:03.000 I want you to think about racial slurs.
00:09:05.000 That's what they actually mean.
00:09:07.000 Well, first of all, what's wrong with being a DEI pick?
00:09:10.000 I got attacked for even attacking anybody for being a DEI pick on this very program.
00:09:14.000 I thought that's a beautiful thing.
00:09:17.000 to have the most diverse administration history that taps into the full talents of our country
00:09:22.000 and starts at the top with the vice president.
00:09:24.000 Why, first of all, what's wrong with being a DEI pick? I got attacked for even attacking anybody
00:09:31.000 for being a DEI pick on this very program. I thought that's a beautiful thing.
00:09:35.000 Yeah, but now they know it's bad PR.
00:09:38.000 This is what Michael Anton calls the celebration parallax, where when we say something is going on
00:09:46.000 and it's bad, it's either racist or a conspiracy theory or both.
00:09:51.000 When they say something is happening and it's good, it's of course true and it's wonderful.
00:09:57.000 So when you're celebrating D.E.I., of course you're able to say D.E.I., but when you're attacking D.E.I., you're a racist.
00:10:05.000 Which is also amazing, because he says, when you hear D.E.I., I want you to think about the N-word.
00:10:09.000 And it's like, but you guys came up with D.E.I.
00:10:13.000 The right doesn't come up with weird acronyms like this and, you know, throw stuff out there like that.
00:10:18.000 We come up with lots of words and phrases.
00:10:20.000 We do red pill, blue pill, black pill, white pill.
00:10:22.000 We do all that kind of stuff.
00:10:24.000 Sure.
00:10:25.000 The weird phrases and having Wall Street back all this up?
00:10:28.000 Nah, man, that's all you guys.
00:10:30.000 That's all you guys in your three letters.
00:10:32.000 And so I am trying to figure out why exactly it is that suddenly DEI equals the n-word.
00:10:38.000 I say, oh my gosh, DEI is the n-word.
00:10:40.000 I guess we should just ban it across the country.
00:10:42.000 We should probably ban anyone who's using that from using bank accounts or PayPal or Square or any of the, you know, Venmo or Cash App or anything.
00:10:51.000 Gosh, DEI is the n-word.
00:10:52.000 There you go.
00:10:54.000 Okay, so I think I got it figured out.
00:10:56.000 So I used to call her Cammy, and now I'll call her Commy.
00:11:03.000 There we go, folks.
00:11:03.000 There we go.
00:11:04.000 Cuts through.
00:11:05.000 Commy Harris.
00:11:07.000 Now I know how to remember it.
00:11:12.000 Commy Harris.
00:11:13.000 Victory.
00:11:13.000 Commy Harris.
00:11:14.000 We have victory.
00:11:15.000 Commy Harris victory.
00:11:17.000 Let's play cut 136.
00:11:20.000 Senator now running to be Vice President, but some people still don't know how to say her first name.
00:11:20.000 She's a U.S.
00:11:26.000 In 2016, she released a video about it with some help from some little friends.
00:11:30.000 It's not Kamala.
00:11:36.000 It's Kamala.
00:11:37.000 Kamala Harris.
00:11:39.000 Well, the Senator says she's used to people mispronouncing her name, but says it's easy to remember.
00:11:43.000 Just combine Kama with law, and you get Kamala.
00:11:48.000 Now all these other options, I wasn't even entertaining all these other options.
00:11:53.000 Kami Harris, Kami Harris for president.
00:11:56.000 Alright, so now we've got... No, this has been very instructive, and for media matters out there, Kami Harris, okay?
00:12:02.000 We're all good?
00:12:03.000 Kami Harris.
00:12:04.000 So now we're in a recalibration mode right now.
00:12:08.000 We're kind of resetting with the Kami at the top of the ticket.
00:12:11.000 Jack, I feel as if we have more clarity.
00:12:14.000 Actually, Andrew, I'll go to you first.
00:12:15.000 Andrew, I feel as if we have more clarity about the stakes in front of us.
00:12:19.000 The data is still coming down.
00:12:21.000 It looks like a moderate improvement for the Democrats, but nothing significant.
00:12:27.000 They have a lot of pent up.
00:12:28.000 They've had 18 months where they've been waiting and waiting and waiting for something to be excited about, and they're just kind of getting it all out.
00:12:35.000 Andrew, what is the state of the race?
00:12:37.000 Yeah, I think you're gonna see the sugar high.
00:12:38.000 There's no doubt.
00:12:40.000 But I think they're gonna be, and I don't say this is with hopium.
00:12:44.000 I'm not saying this is somebody that, I mean, if things were really dire, I would say it.
00:12:49.000 I think you're gonna see a bump with young Gen Z women, and you're gonna see a dip with Gen Z men, millennial men.
00:12:57.000 I think you're gonna see a dip on her part.
00:13:00.000 You're gonna see boomers.
00:13:03.000 Coming home to the Republican Party.
00:13:05.000 I don't think that they are going to be into a radical California left-wing female, frankly.
00:13:13.000 But, you know, regardless, I think the same would happen if you pick Gavin Newsom.
00:13:16.000 So I just don't think the Midwest is going to go for a California radical left-wing person.
00:13:22.000 So I think you're going to see the bump.
00:13:25.000 We still got to write out the DNC.
00:13:26.000 They're going to get a little bit of a press bump from that.
00:13:29.000 I mean, one of the things that I've been shocked at, Charlie, not shocked, but It was abrupt because of the fact that the left-wing media had become so fixated on pointing out all the flaws that were going on, the chaos that was going on behind the scenes within the Biden administration.
00:13:44.000 Suddenly, they got curious.
00:13:46.000 Suddenly, there was leaks everywhere.
00:13:48.000 Suddenly, it was panic, pandemonium.
00:13:50.000 And now, on a dime, they have flipped into full-on propaganda mode on behalf of Kamala Harris.
00:13:57.000 And it's abrupt.
00:13:58.000 Like, the pivot was distinct.
00:14:00.000 And so, you know, if it wasn't clear before, Kamala getting installed as the nominee is is really jarring from a media landscape standpoint because of just how sudden the about face was.
00:14:12.000 The switcheroo happened and then bingo.
00:14:14.000 Everything's pro Kami.
00:14:16.000 So I mean for my perspective I think they're going to see a little sugar high.
00:14:20.000 It's going to settle out.
00:14:21.000 Don't panic.
00:14:22.000 We were expecting this, but I just don't think that the fundamentals of the race are still the same.
00:14:28.000 They're gonna try and drive up the score, build energy, build donor base.
00:14:33.000 I just don't see a lot of these voter groups that they're losing coming back.
00:14:38.000 And one of the underappreciated things from 2020, Charlie, you and I have talked about this, between 2016 and 2020, Donald Trump lost some of the white vote.
00:14:49.000 White men specifically.
00:14:50.000 He lost that enough to actually lose the race.
00:14:55.000 Remember, it was 42,000 votes in three states.
00:14:58.000 I'm not sure that this move to Kamala Harris is going to help.
00:15:02.000 And I don't care if they throw a white man on the ticket, whether that's Bashir, Cooper, Shapiro, or Kelly.
00:15:09.000 I don't see it making up enough ground.
00:15:11.000 I think Trump's going to get back to those 2016 numbers with men.
00:15:15.000 Jack, what is the state of the race in your analysis?
00:15:18.000 Well, Charlie, look, I think people need to understand something that it's a jump ball.
00:15:22.000 There's a lot of imbalance right now.
00:15:24.000 Normally, we haven't seen the Democrats move so fast like this.
00:15:27.000 We haven't seen Leviathan.
00:15:28.000 We haven't seen the blob move so quickly before.
00:15:31.000 They ran an operation and they ran it very, very quickly.
00:15:35.000 Remember, Barack Obama was talking about an open process just a few days ago.
00:15:40.000 Well, suddenly the process is gone.
00:15:42.000 So where is the open process he was talking about now that she's already cinched the delegates?
00:15:45.000 The state of the race, though, of course, is that all of the entire mainstream media
00:15:52.000 Hollywood reality machine is lining up behind Kamala Harris.
00:15:58.000 This has never happened before.
00:15:59.000 And by the way, the data that's coming in now is still not even quite reflective of
00:16:04.000 that because there was the Kamala Harris who didn't have the full support of the media
00:16:09.000 reality machine, but now they do.
00:16:12.000 Now she does.
00:16:13.000 And so once that starts kicking in, we've already seen it, right?
00:16:16.000 And Van Jones, of all people, announces this even before me.
00:16:19.000 He says.
00:16:21.000 Well, look at this.
00:16:22.000 She's the number one trending topic on TikTok.
00:16:24.000 She's gone from cringe to brat.
00:16:27.000 She's gone from cringe to awesome.
00:16:29.000 And it's like, wait a minute.
00:16:30.000 Now, Republicans and conservatives and your independent moderate types might be looking at that saying, well, I don't understand.
00:16:36.000 You said she was cringe before.
00:16:39.000 Now she's awesome.
00:16:41.000 Tens of millions of voters believe whatever television and their push notifications tell them.
00:16:46.000 They just do.
00:16:48.000 It's a fact of life, it's a fact of the situation.
00:16:50.000 We've been fighting it, we've been doing very well with it, but it still is part of what we have to deal with.
00:16:56.000 With that entire machine getting behind her, and now it's going to be pumping her and pushing her across the finish line for the next 15 months, we have to understand That only through social media—thank God, by the way, that Elon has freed the bird and given us X—to allow us at least a fighting chance to come back where we can point out these times when she makes these gaffes, when she says these ridiculous things on the stump.
00:17:20.000 But again, the people on her side are going to watch, and President Trump has already agreed
00:17:24.000 to a couple of debates with her, where they're gonna watch the debate,
00:17:28.000 but then they'll see the media coverage, and the media coverage will say she did fantastic,
00:17:32.000 she did amazing, no matter how she does.
00:17:35.000 That's what the media is going to say, and these folks will believe that.
00:17:38.000 And so it's incumbent on us to absolutely try to frame this as immediate as possible.
00:17:45.000 And I'm not seeing, though I've been starting to with a couple of shows, Charlie, you and me, of course, is frame this not just as, okay, she's a lib, but also the fact that this is someone who is heartless.
00:17:58.000 This is someone who's ruthless.
00:17:59.000 This is someone who's uncaring.
00:18:00.000 She's not caring about the lives of the people in San Francisco, which she completely destroyed and then moved on.
00:18:06.000 The people of California, which she completely walked all over and then moved on.
00:18:10.000 Andrew obviously can talk about that.
00:18:11.000 and then her tenure in office, not caring after Afghanistan fell, not caring after everything
00:18:17.000 that happened in Ukraine and her direct role in that, by the way, nearly provoking World War III
00:18:21.000 at the Munich conference just days before Putin invaded, and then of course not caring about
00:18:26.000 people like Laken Riley, who was raped and murdered by illegal immigrants that came across
00:18:31.000 during her watch. This is what people need to explain.
00:18:34.000 All the laughing, the cackling, the me, me, me.
00:18:37.000 It's narcissism.
00:18:38.000 It's repackaged narcissism.
00:18:40.000 Kamala Harris only cares about power, ambition, herself, vainglory, pride.
00:18:46.000 That's who she is.
00:18:48.000 She has no connection, no empathy.
00:18:50.000 And the media is going to try to tell you, yes, she does.
00:18:52.000 Yes, she does.
00:18:53.000 Yes, she does.
00:18:54.000 That's going to have to be the split.
00:18:55.000 And you know what, Charlie?
00:18:56.000 They did the same thing with Hillary.
00:18:58.000 This is kind of like the, you know, Hillary 2.0 campaign.
00:19:02.000 So it's almost like, in these last 15 weeks, we're getting a replay of Trump v. Hillary, only it's Trump v. California Hillary with California commie coming up.
00:19:14.000 And what Andrew's saying is right.
00:19:15.000 And I think, by the way, That Republicans and Trump need to do two things.
00:19:20.000 Number one is remind, in terms of demographics, remind these people hate men.
00:19:25.000 Democrats hate men.
00:19:26.000 It is explicit.
00:19:28.000 It is explicit in their platform.
00:19:30.000 It is their program.
00:19:31.000 Kamala Harris is first and foremost among this.
00:19:34.000 They specifically also hate white people.
00:19:37.000 This is huge as a part of that, but I think really first and foremost that they hate men.
00:19:40.000 Number two is Look, you've got to have the power of narrative versus the power of narrative.
00:19:45.000 They're producing their narrative, Donald Trump's single strongest narrative right now.
00:19:50.000 Yes, he has a great record.
00:19:52.000 Yes, he has great experience.
00:19:53.000 Yes, he has a great business.
00:19:54.000 But his single strongest record is not that.
00:19:56.000 He survived an assassin's bullet.
00:19:59.000 And I think that, and Charlie, you and I were talking offline about this earlier, that there was perhaps a missed opportunity at the RNC because the Trump family, Trump's son and his granddaughter spoke about this at length, but the rest of the family didn't make this a huge... Laura and Eric.
00:20:20.000 The emotional side of it is what I'm getting at.
00:20:22.000 The emotional side wasn't really played up.
00:20:25.000 We haven't seen any interviews with Melania Trump talking about this, or potentially even Barron, who appeared at a rally, but then also was conspicuously not at the RNC.
00:20:33.000 I think there's a lot of stories still left to be told.
00:20:37.000 And honestly, I'd love to see a story of someone interviewing Donald Trump on camera talking about those events and, you know, perhaps show, right, show that there was a real possibility of Remember, just half an inch away from the end of everything, and potentially massive unrest in the United States.
00:20:57.000 And show that human side.
00:20:59.000 Show that human side.
00:20:59.000 That needs to be done.
00:21:00.000 That's the story.
00:21:01.000 Let me ask you a political question here, Jack.
00:21:03.000 Play devil's advocate.
00:21:05.000 Is that what if Kamala is able to use this multi-billion dollar machine that has never existed until Donald Trump came along, because it was part of the resistance, She's able to excite younger women, able to excite urban minorities in those corridors, is able to do a lot of ballot harvesting and ballot chasing, and they're able to overperform the polls.
00:21:28.000 What if, I'm playing devil's advocate here, what if Kamala is able to rebuild the Obama coalition, pick a moderate vice president like Shapiro or Kelly, and make this a very tight race where they defeat us in trench warfare?
00:21:43.000 What do you think of that as a potential vector of what could materialize this fall if we're not on our guard?
00:21:50.000 Charlie, that's exactly what they're doing.
00:21:52.000 That is 100% what they're doing.
00:21:54.000 And so all of this, oh, we're not enthusiastic for Joe Biden.
00:21:58.000 And no, there's no interest, etc.
00:22:00.000 No, no, they are absolutely putting everything behind her that 81 million, which I'm sure totally came from just small dollar donors.
00:22:08.000 No, no, that was a message.
00:22:09.000 Okay, that was a message that guess what, the regime is still here, the regime is still going to fight.
00:22:14.000 and the ballot operations are going to be turned on, Clyburn and his operations and his networks
00:22:19.000 are going to be turned on through the churches in the inner city churches.
00:22:23.000 So you're going to see a ton of this.
00:22:25.000 But I will say, I will also say, they would not be going through to such an extent
00:22:32.000 of switching out a candidate, putting up someone new, if they could just press a button and win an election.
00:22:37.000 They would not be spending all this money.
00:22:39.000 They wouldn't have to.
00:22:40.000 And so to folks out there who think they're totally blackpilled and they say, oh, all is lost.
00:22:44.000 No, there's no blackpilling, no despair.
00:22:47.000 That's not going to happen on our watch.
00:22:49.000 They would not be making desperate moves like this if all was was lost. Something has changed between 2020 and now, right?
00:22:57.000 And we know some of that, maybe we don't know all of it, but something has changed
00:23:01.000 where their election winning machine isn't working the way it used to. They're terrified of
00:23:06.000 going up against in a one-on-one fight against Trump. And I think that we're in an absolute
00:23:10.000 real political night fight now for the next 15 weeks, going up to, I think, 103 days
00:23:16.000 to November 5. This is a real People need to understand that.
00:23:19.000 But it's going to be a lot, a lot tighter than it would be having Joe Biden up there.
00:23:24.000 Yeah.
00:23:24.000 So, Andrew, I want to throw to you, these things go back and forth.
00:23:27.000 And so the Democrats are going to have some momentum.
00:23:30.000 Then we're going to regain some recentering and then there'll be air cover, ad cover.
00:23:34.000 Donald Trump is the best finisher in American politics.
00:23:38.000 Andrew, if we lose, Why would that be?
00:23:41.000 What is the scenario where Kamala is successful?
00:23:46.000 I think the best scenario is that, you know, she plays tough in Georgia.
00:23:52.000 She activates the black vote and she picks somebody like Shapiro in Pennsylvania and
00:23:59.000 they pick off those two states.
00:24:00.000 I think that's their best, their best bet.
00:24:03.000 They're going to have the ground game advantage.
00:24:05.000 They're going to have the dark money network advantage.
00:24:07.000 We know this.
00:24:09.000 Dark money is going to be trench warfare, as you pointed out, Charlotte, get out the
00:24:13.000 vote, ballot chasing.
00:24:15.000 That's why what we're doing a turning point action is so important to offset that.
00:24:19.000 And we've got a heck of a ground game in PA.
00:24:21.000 We've got a heck of a ground game in the Rust Belt in Michigan and Wisconsin, obviously in Arizona.
00:24:26.000 I like the fundamentals in Georgia a lot right now.
00:24:30.000 So I'm less worried about Georgia, but that would be her play the Georgia Pennsylvania play.
00:24:34.000 I think You know, the money advantage and abortion, she's going to play up women's issues.
00:24:42.000 She's going to play up the abortion issue.
00:24:46.000 I still fundamentally don't think that that's going to be enough.
00:24:49.000 She's going to alienate even more voters than she brings in.
00:24:53.000 But, you know, the media is going to be all behind her.
00:24:55.000 We've seen it.
00:24:55.000 They have pivoted full swing.
00:24:58.000 Can I point out one thing on this media pivot?
00:25:01.000 You know, as we talk about the way people are consuming their media, and Jack, you know this very well also, you know, you've got an older demographic that's watching media.
00:25:10.000 I think that despite the media's propaganda, where they're going to be most successful on the airwaves, cable, that that boomer audience, an older ex audience, they're
00:25:21.000 not going to take kindly to a radical from California. It's just, it's going to alienate them.
00:25:26.000 Trump was a little bit softer with the boomers than in previous cycles. So we were watching that.
00:25:31.000 I think Kamala is going to bring them, I see, look at I'm catching myself in the neck. I
00:25:35.000 think she's going to bring those people back to the fold. I think she's going to alienate them.
00:25:39.000 They're going to switch over.
00:25:40.000 We're going to see Trump's support with boomers increase.
00:25:43.000 and And I think when you talk about that she's doing really well on X, I don't think that you're gonna see, or on TikTok, I don't think you're gonna see those numbers go back to the 2020 numbers that Biden enjoyed.
00:25:58.000 So I just think structurally, the way the media landscape is now sorted, we've got a much better fighting chance with the younger voters who might be attracted to her message on TikTok and X.
00:26:09.000 Charlie's doing between 5 and 10 million views on TikTok a day.
00:26:14.000 You got Don, you got Joe Rogan, you've got President Trump.
00:26:17.000 I think we've got a fighting chance on those mediums.
00:26:19.000 And then the airwaves for cable, older, I just think Kamala's not going to appeal to
00:26:24.000 that audience.
00:26:25.000 Let's just also remember, not every younger voter is made the same.
00:26:28.000 If Kamala Harris is very popular on TikTok with New Yorkers, that means nothing, okay?
00:26:34.000 If she's super popular in Los Angeles or in Denver, okay, the swing state younger voters are showing to be more moderate or center-right in their disposition.
00:26:45.000 She is America's most liberal senator.
00:26:48.000 And by the way, Jack, I'm going to let you riff on the memory holing of what the media has been doing with Axios, who should be ashamed of themselves, a complete humiliation for Axios in the last 24 hours, in addition to the scorecard that did this interview, play cut 138.
00:27:05.000 You're very different in the policies that you've supported in the past.
00:27:08.000 You're considered the most liberal United States senator.
00:27:13.000 Somebody said that and it actually was Mike Pence on the debate stage.
00:27:18.000 Well actually the non-partisan GovTrack has rated you as the most liberal senator.
00:27:25.000 You supported the Green New Deal.
00:27:26.000 You supported Medicare for All.
00:27:29.000 And now the nonpartisan GovTrack has put new footnotes because they're getting hit up by the radical left so much.
00:27:36.000 She was the most liberal U.S.
00:27:39.000 Senator.
00:27:40.000 Jack, that statement right there means we should have a boomer landslide.
00:27:44.000 So the way I look at it, we're going to lose a little bit more with blacks and with young women, but we can run up the score with men, working class whites, With Hispanics, Crypto Bros, and Boomers.
00:27:57.000 Boomer energy is ascendant.
00:28:00.000 Jack?
00:28:01.000 Yeah, and Charlie, I think one piece that, just to mention again, this was late-breaking news, so obviously all this is subject to change, but there was a story where she would not be speaking at the Bitcoin conference that's coming up, I believe it's in Miami, and I mean that's just a huge Huge, a huge loss also shows you where her money's coming from.
00:28:20.000 Look, you've got a significant pool of resources there in the crypto community, not just financial, but also intellectual.
00:28:29.000 These guys are smart.
00:28:30.000 They're forward thinking.
00:28:32.000 They're trying to figure out new ways to make things work.
00:28:34.000 The Winklevoss twins, obviously, we know are very long into crypto.
00:28:38.000 So many other people.
00:28:39.000 Elon, of course, has been big on that.
00:28:41.000 David Sachs.
00:28:42.000 And so this has been a huge, Huge, I think, windfall for President Trump to move into this territory, and for the Biden campaign, now the Harris campaign, to just totally shunt it, as well as from their administration moving to regulate Bitcoin, regulate crypto, and come in.
00:28:58.000 They have absolutely taken the side of what we've always accused them of saying, is that you guys are the regime.
00:29:04.000 You guys are the Death Star.
00:29:06.000 You guys are the ones on that side.
00:29:08.000 We are the ones who stand for freedom.
00:29:09.000 We are the ones who stand for the individual spirit.
00:29:12.000 stand for future forward principles, future forward ideas and solutions, not these top
00:29:19.000 down government controlled solutions.
00:29:21.000 And so when you're looking at the politics of all that, that's a huge piece as far as
00:29:26.000 her being the most liberal senator.
00:29:28.000 And now what GovTrack has done, though, this is significant.
00:29:31.000 What they've done is that they've come in and started to change their ratings.
00:29:36.000 If you go back in Axios, Axios actually says, just like in 1984.
00:29:40.000 What do you mean?
00:29:42.000 Kamala Harris was never The Borders Are, and the exact same reporter, Winston Smith, just from 1984 himself.
00:29:51.000 That's not the reporter's name.
00:29:52.000 I'm making an analogy here.
00:29:54.000 This was the same person who wrote the story saying Biden appoints Kamala as Borders Are just three years ago.
00:30:04.000 So now she's not the most liberal senator.
00:30:06.000 Now she's not the Borders Are.
00:30:08.000 Again, this is the power of media performative effect, immediate condition response.
00:30:13.000 Immediate condition response is if you're one of these people who, and there are tens of millions of them in the United States.
00:30:20.000 Rush, we used to refer to low information voters, you, they are affected by chronic propaganda all the time.
00:30:27.000 And they're simply, they're simply used to being in receive
00:30:31.000 mode.
00:30:31.000 When they see the news, they say, Oh, my gosh, I can't believe that happened on the news. Oh, my gosh, I can't
00:30:35.000 believe that happened on the news. There's no skeptical, right? There's no skepticism. There's no there's no wait a
00:30:42.000 minute that doesn't comport with whatever I and then the Gell Man Amnesia effect is of course, always that say there is
00:30:48.000 every once in a while. So the Gell Man Amnesia effect, it comes
00:30:52.000 up a lot. So say that every once in a while, you see a story on
00:30:54.000 the news that that perhaps, perhaps you have a direct
00:30:58.000 connection to you work in that field, you're in that you're in that
00:31:03.000 industry, you know that there's something the media gets wrong, you
00:31:06.000 say, wait a minute, you know, let's say, you know, let's say you
00:31:10.000 work in the stock market, and you're reading a story in the Wall Street Journal, and it's a company that you personally
00:31:16.000 know, or a startup that you personally know some of the people
00:31:19.000 that are involved with and here's this report, it's completely wrong.
00:31:22.000 It's got facts wrong, it's got dates wrong. And you're reading
00:31:25.000 it going, man, these guys totally got this wrong.
00:31:28.000 But the gelman amnesia effect is that you turn to the next article and you exempt you completely accept everything
00:31:35.000 They say verbatim as gospel. So this is a huge issue This is what the media's power has been.
00:31:42.000 By the way, this is a huge reason that they pulled Biden in the first place, okay?
00:31:46.000 Because the media credibility was on the line.
00:31:51.000 Because the media had been saying for years and years and years that Biden's health and Biden's mental status and Biden's condition was a right-wing conspiracy, that we were the ones who were making it all up.
00:32:00.000 But then the debate happened.
00:32:01.000 Everyone tuned in and watched it live in real time, 50 million people, and suddenly Everyone saw that the emperor had no clothes.
00:32:09.000 So the issue wasn't that Biden had dementia.
00:32:11.000 They don't care that Biden had dementia.
00:32:12.000 They liked that he had dementia.
00:32:13.000 That meant he could be their puppet.
00:32:15.000 But the issue was the media's credibility was called into question.
00:32:19.000 That's why who was the lead person who was most harsh on him after the debate?
00:32:25.000 It was Jake Tapper.
00:32:26.000 Why?
00:32:26.000 Because Jake Tapper was at the debate and not saying it in real time.
00:32:29.000 Why would Jake Tapper go so hard on Joe Biden and make that pivot so quickly right after the debate?
00:32:36.000 Well, it's very clear because his credibility, low that it is, was still on the line.
00:32:42.000 And that's why they pushed him out to say, we agree with you, there's a problem here.
00:32:48.000 Now we're pivoting.
00:32:49.000 They lied to us.
00:32:50.000 And there were all these stories coming out of Axios and other places saying that the White House lied to us,
00:32:55.000 it's on them, it's their fault, the Kimberly Cheetos, the Jill Bidens, the inner circle,
00:32:59.000 it was all them, they all lied.
00:33:01.000 And now we get to go, now we had that bump in the road, and now we get to go back
00:33:05.000 to your regularly scheduled programming.
00:33:07.000 And all you normies out there, don't worry about that politics stuff.
00:33:10.000 We got this great young Kamala Harris.
00:33:12.000 She's so much younger than Donald Trump.
00:33:14.000 By the way, I also predict that they will start painting Trump
00:33:17.000 as the older, out of touch kind of guy.
00:33:20.000 You can already see that starting to happen, which as you say, Charlie,
00:33:23.000 also will help run up the Boomer vote, because they'll see the contrast.
00:33:28.000 And I just need to explain, and I need conservatives or anyone listening
00:33:32.000 to understand this, that tens of millions of normies just believe it.
00:33:36.000 It's not cynical, it's not political, it's not partisan, they just are in this trance-like state where whatever the media says across the screen, that's what they believe, and then they'll go back to it.
00:33:47.000 The single person who's been able to break through that is Donald Trump.
00:33:51.000 Andrew, you have a thought on that?
00:33:53.000 Yeah, the breakdown in the is older. The people that are consuming so much of this
00:34:02.000 propaganda are older. And I don't think that Kamala is going to do well with older voters. I just
00:34:06.000 don't. I think we're going to have the boomer redemption arc here. And so, you know, the truth is
00:34:11.000 getting out. I mean, this Axios piece got community noted hard, right?
00:34:17.000 Where they say, the Trump campaign and Republicans have tagged Harris repeatedly with the Borders Are title, which she never actually had.
00:34:24.000 Community note, on April 14th, 2021, Axios' Shauna Chen confirmed Kamala Harris had been appointed Biden's Borders Are in writing.
00:34:33.000 So, and that's got 8 million views.
00:34:36.000 I mean, we know she was appointed The borders are.
00:34:39.000 There's receipts everywhere on that.
00:34:41.000 We also know that, and we can throw up this image guys, that she was the most liberal, 141.
00:34:48.000 So we know this GovTrack, most liberal.
00:34:51.000 The internet lives forever compared to all other senators.
00:34:55.000 This is a nonpartisan GovTrack.
00:34:57.000 We have the clips.
00:34:58.000 We have her reaction to it.
00:35:00.000 We have it writing.
00:35:01.000 It's all over again, millions and millions of impressions.
00:35:04.000 So they can try and memory whole things, but they don't have the advantage that they did
00:35:08.000 in 2020 because as you said, Musk freed the bird.
00:35:11.000 TikTok has been opened way up, way up.
00:35:14.000 We can, we can express, we can testify to that, right, Charlie?
00:35:18.000 I mean, we used to get strikes for sneezing wrong on TikTok.
00:35:22.000 We have explosive reach now.
00:35:25.000 Yeah, a huge, huge reach.
00:35:27.000 Our Instagram is huge.
00:35:30.000 Charlie's Instagram, I would venture to guess, is the most popular conservative Instagram in the movement.
00:35:34.000 Jack, you're, you're squatting these, these lies down like flies on X. We're doing our best.
00:35:40.000 But I mean, it's just the landscape is such that the people that she would normally appeal to are getting bombarded with both sides of the message.
00:35:47.000 Meanwhile, cable news, Pravda, older, not going to go for it.
00:35:51.000 I mean, that's where I'm settling on this score.
00:35:54.000 There's so much back and forth that's going to happen.
00:35:56.000 Let's hear what we have to remember.
00:35:58.000 So I'm just looking at all that in the national average of polls, which is Trump is enjoying like a point and a half in a national poll advantage over Kamala.
00:36:06.000 Maybe two points.
00:36:07.000 Joe Biden had a four-point final advantage.
00:36:13.000 Four-point final advantage at the end, if you count all the nonsense, all the ballot stuff, and yet it was determined by 40,000 votes.
00:36:21.000 So four points nationally, 40,000 votes.
00:36:25.000 Four points nationally, 40,000 votes.
00:36:28.000 Now, this is without the Trump campaign running a single ad.
00:36:32.000 This is with the outside groups being spent 30 to 1, Jack.
00:36:36.000 We are being outspent on television 30 to 1.
00:36:38.000 That's gonna close.
00:36:39.000 There are hundreds of millions of dollars that are about to be deployed.
00:36:42.000 I know that.
00:36:43.000 It's all in public filings, by the way.
00:36:44.000 The money is getting ready.
00:36:46.000 And you might say, oh, I wish they would have spent it earlier.
00:36:48.000 Really?
00:36:49.000 Maybe it was brilliant for them to wait.
00:36:51.000 Maybe it was brilliant for us to not actually spend anything over the summer.
00:36:55.000 And I will say this, Jack, can we like go a little bit back in memory lane here?
00:36:59.000 And Tyler's going to come here in a second.
00:37:01.000 Donald, something happens in the month of October.
00:37:04.000 Something happens to Donald J. Trump.
00:37:07.000 He gets that tunnel vision, he gets Tom Brady in the fourth quarter, he gets Patrick Mahomes in overtime, and the dude finishes.
00:37:14.000 The only reason 2020 was as close as it was, was not because of a brilliant run campaign, is that Donald Trump was a madman.
00:37:22.000 I was texting with a New York Times reporter that you know, Andrew knows this text, I sent him a copy of it.
00:37:26.000 And he said, how do you think the race is?
00:37:28.000 I said, well, honestly, it's gonna go back and forth, but Trump is the best finisher.
00:37:31.000 He said, dude, honestly, I've never seen anything like it in politics.
00:37:34.000 The last two weeks, he just goes nuts.
00:37:36.000 He goes ballistic, Jack.
00:37:38.000 And we have to understand that we're gonna embrace early voting, but October comes, and Donald Trump hates to lose, and if we are even in the margin of error going into October, I feel good about our movement coalescing, about our movement coming home, about driving turnout in that voting month.
00:37:54.000 Jack, your thoughts?
00:37:56.000 Look, this is something that's going to have to happen because as we dig in, all right, the Trump campaign obviously pivoting right now in that moment.
00:38:06.000 And by the way, Charlie, something that we haven't really discussed here, and I know we have a couple of minutes left in these segments, is the role of JD Vance.
00:38:15.000 And I think that this is going to be a time where J.D.
00:38:18.000 Vance is going to come into absolute key strategic play here, going into those Rust Belt states of Pennsylvania, of Michigan and Wisconsin, telling his story.
00:38:32.000 And I don't just mean J.D.
00:38:33.000 Vance, by the way, you know, in the suit and tie at the rally or, you know, at the, I mean, J.D.
00:38:43.000 Vance going fishing, J.D.
00:38:45.000 Vance talking to people on the street, J.D.
00:38:48.000 Vance going around in western Pennsylvania, Butler, Pennsylvania even, J.D.
00:38:52.000 Vance going around in Macomb County, J.D.
00:38:56.000 Vance going up to Green Bay and some of these places in Wisconsin.
00:39:01.000 These are going to be the places where this election is fought and won.
00:39:05.000 And JD Vance has a direct way, really through that Hillbilly Elegy story, to be able to
00:39:11.000 connect to those voters.
00:39:12.000 Because I've spent the whole day talking to people about this, and especially women in
00:39:16.000 these areas, because they're saying, look, his story is my son's story.
00:39:22.000 Or maybe not that people can experience something as drastic as JD did in his childhood.
00:39:29.000 But you know what?
00:39:30.000 They all know somebody like that.
00:39:32.000 They all know a JD Vance.
00:39:33.000 They know a JD Vance who maybe made it, maybe didn't make it.
00:39:36.000 But to see someone who went through that and get to where he is, that is the strongest So Andrew, we have not actually done a thought crime since Trump got shot.
00:39:45.000 Isn't that amazing to think?
00:39:47.000 We've already got to talk about this Hollywood power that Kamala Harris already has. Guess what?
00:39:51.000 Hollywood screwed up because they already made a Hollywood movie out of JD Vance.
00:39:56.000 So Andrew, we have not actually done a thought crime since Trump got shot.
00:40:01.000 Isn't that amazing to think? We have not done a thought crime since Trump got shot.
00:40:05.000 Taking a step back, the media has largely forgotten it.
00:40:10.000 I mean, there has been a lot of news, in all fairness.
00:40:12.000 But the media has forgotten that Trump got shot.
00:40:15.000 How do you think, if at all, that will play into this election?
00:40:18.000 I have a feeling that that story is going to die, and then it might actually rise again.
00:40:22.000 It's something that all of a sudden might become another primary talking point in late September or October.
00:40:27.000 Andrew, what do you think?
00:40:28.000 I was actually thinking about this earlier today of how quickly we've moved on.
00:40:32.000 But I tend to agree with you, Charlie. I mean, that image is iconic of him raising his fist in
00:40:39.000 the air. You know, there's little kids in Africa that are doing videos of it, emulating it. You see
00:40:47.000 Mark Zuckerberg saying it's the most badass thing he's ever seen in his, you know, in recent memory.
00:40:55.000 I think it's so big that, you know, whether Trump brings it up on the debate stage, whether
00:41:00.000 JD Vance does, whether they start running ads about it, it is such a powerful image.
00:41:08.000 in such a powerful moment, and it resonated so deeply at the RNC, I would be very shocked if
00:41:14.000 it doesn't come up, right? So there's ways we can do this from a messaging standpoint.
00:41:19.000 And why I think that's important is because it evokes something primal in the American spirit
00:41:24.000 when you see one of your leaders, even if you don't agree with their politics completely,
00:41:28.000 get nearly assassinated in front of your eyes.
00:41:32.000 And to see him rise again, defiant, shaking his fist, saying, fight, fight, fight.
00:41:37.000 That is a primal, red-blooded American thing to get behind.
00:41:41.000 You know, and there's a lot of swing voters, a lot of even like squishy Democrats that feel that.
00:41:46.000 I think Mark Zuckerberg would be, you know, one of those people.
00:41:49.000 I wouldn't be surprised if Mark Zuckerberg ends up pulling the lever for Trump this year.
00:41:54.000 I mean, at least Call me maybe naive, but I mean, that's how deeply I think that image resonates.
00:42:01.000 So I think we have to be the ones that lead the charge on that because it's so important.
00:42:05.000 And you said something earlier relevant to this, Charlie, and I hate to even put this out in the world, but you know, when you talk about that rally schedule towards the end when they're closing, you know, by God, I hope that they are working on that plan now because I want to make sure that there is sufficient Planning and advanced teams from a security standpoint, U.S.
00:42:30.000 Secret Service, whether that's private security that we get involved, we cannot let this man be put in a vulnerable position again.
00:42:38.000 So I hope that there will be fixes and solutions to that because when you talk about event fatigue, you're going to feel that from a Secret Service standpoint in those last couple of weeks leading up to Election Day.
00:42:50.000 We now have Tyler Boyer here.
00:42:51.000 Tyler, how we doing?
00:42:52.000 It's good to see you, Charlie.
00:42:54.000 You're hiring ballot chasers?
00:42:56.000 We have a ballot chasing class that's wrapping up as we speak.
00:43:01.000 So what do you think is the state of the race now?
00:43:04.000 Get your input of where we're at.
00:43:06.000 Things are still settling.
00:43:07.000 The data is still coming in.
00:43:08.000 Yeah, I mean, I think everybody's freaking out a little bit because you're seeing a little bit of a Kamala entrance jump.
00:43:13.000 So I don't know if you guys talked about the bump, but I think that's to be expected.
00:43:16.000 So I think our chat was like, oh man, the polls are looking, but like you have to expect anytime that news breaks, this is massive news.
00:43:25.000 Mm-hmm and there's intrigue right and there's voters that have no idea who Kamala is And just on paper first glance, you know, they're going to make determinations about who they support based off of the very limited information that they have in front of them and Kamala now is going to have to sell her story over the next four months basically, so she's gonna have I actually don't think It goes up for Kamala here.
00:43:52.000 I think it's the more she talks.
00:43:54.000 We know this.
00:43:54.000 We know Kamala.
00:43:55.000 Everyone knows Kamala.
00:43:56.000 So she's it's going to it's going to go down from here.
00:43:59.000 But, you know, this is this is why the ball's in Trump's court.
00:44:02.000 It's like it's it's his this is his race to lose at this point.
00:44:07.000 What type of race should he run?
00:44:09.000 How much risk should he entertain?
00:44:11.000 Well, I mean, I think that you don't want to take any risk at this point.
00:44:18.000 You don't want to be risky when you're up, right?
00:44:20.000 When you have the ball and you're up, you don't want to be risky, but you want to be smart, you want to be aggressive, you want to flex, right?
00:44:27.000 So Trump needs to do what Trump's good at, which is stick to exactly what he's been saying, which is soft tone, undertone.
00:44:35.000 I was almost killed, and I take a bullet for this country.
00:44:39.000 And, by the way, I was a much better president than the Biden-Harris regime.
00:44:42.000 He should connect the two.
00:44:43.000 They want to kill me because I'm going to close the border.
00:44:45.000 Well, they want to close the border, and she... No, but not... I mean, like, I am a target because I want to do these things.
00:44:51.000 Yeah.
00:44:51.000 You connect the two together.
00:44:53.000 Yeah, of course.
00:44:53.000 And I think that Americans are naturally doing that.
00:44:57.000 I think the really interesting part about this entire dynamic that we have coming up here is that Trump is going to... they're going to throw everything they possibly can to throw Trump off his game.
00:45:08.000 So those are outside, mostly outside things.
00:45:11.000 And the thing that Trump has done really well this time, as opposed to 2020 and certainly 2016, is he has a fortress built around him, unlike he's ever had before.
00:45:20.000 So now the fortress can go two ways.
00:45:24.000 It can go both ways.
00:45:24.000 We can make him so he's too quiet and he does too little, which just gives them the media
00:45:32.000 space to create Kamala into whatever they want.
00:45:36.000 Or he can use that fortress to his advantage, which is he can stand to the wall, say the
00:45:40.000 things, not make mistakes, not make fatal errors, and that's all he has to do.
00:45:47.000 I mean, the reality is this, is that with Biden out of the race, we know anyone can
00:45:52.000 John Fetterman could win.
00:45:53.000 Joe Biden won.
00:45:54.000 Yes.
00:45:55.000 And so let me ask you that the path for Kamala to win would be that she goes pure identity
00:46:01.000 politics, expands the left-wing base, and does huge amounts of ballot chasing, voter
00:46:07.000 registration, all that stuff.
00:46:11.000 Trump is a one-man get-out-the-vote machine, plus what we are doing.
00:46:15.000 She naturally has some issues with baby boomers that I don't think she'll be able to fix.
00:46:21.000 But she'll be able to win over young women in huge numbers, and she'll be able to do better with blacks.
00:46:27.000 I don't think Hispanics are going to go to her in big numbers, but blacks and young whites who just are totally propaganda.
00:46:34.000 Well, and Asian Americans too, right?
00:46:36.000 There's the whole... Young Asians, for sure.
00:46:38.000 Yeah, there's the whole, you know, Indian influence and... Which is a smaller population, but we were talking about 10,000 votes, you know?
00:46:45.000 Yeah, there's Asian Americans, I think, that band together, that, you know, Middle Easterners, things like that, that just look at her as like a...
00:46:54.000 Yeah, a representation of their American story.
00:46:58.000 So I want to play this piece of tape here.
00:47:00.000 On the other side, we're seeing huge movements with streamers, gamers, young men.
00:47:04.000 Now here's my concern, guys.
00:47:05.000 I can't tell you this enough.
00:47:07.000 Tyler, you'll love this.
00:47:08.000 Great that the Paul brothers are endorsing Donald Trump.
00:47:11.000 I think it's awesome.
00:47:12.000 I think it takes a lot of courage.
00:47:13.000 I'm glad they're doing it.
00:47:14.000 But people saying they're gonna vote for Trump online and them voting are two completely different things.
00:47:18.000 Two completely different things.
00:47:19.000 And I am very concerned that we have an overinflated view of our standing if we don't chase ballots to such a ridiculous extent.
00:47:28.000 Yes.
00:47:29.000 I think we could underperform polls for the first time with Donald Trump on the ballot.
00:47:35.000 I want to play this piece of tape as just an introduction.
00:47:36.000 Play cut 142.
00:47:38.000 I think I'm going to link up with Trump, and then the Bitcoin conference, and then I'm linking up with Whistling Diesel.
00:47:43.000 Tell Trump, two million dollars for the hat he was wearing for the attempted assassination and my full endorsement.
00:47:50.000 Not that he needs it, but that's my offer.
00:47:52.000 That's your bid?
00:47:52.000 My bid's three million.
00:47:53.000 Then I'll do four.
00:47:54.000 I'll do five.
00:47:55.000 Six.
00:47:56.000 Justin, Ken Griffin just called.
00:48:00.000 He's doing 60.
00:48:01.000 He's doing 60 million.
00:48:02.000 I legitimately would pay...
00:48:05.000 With the current money I have now, I would, at my max, I would be like, I would pay probably $12 million.
00:48:11.000 Let's go halfsies.
00:48:12.000 Let's go halfsies, actually.
00:48:14.000 Tell him, tell him.
00:48:14.000 Let's go halfsies on it.
00:48:17.000 Yeah, they're making a lot of money.
00:48:19.000 Yeah.
00:48:19.000 Doing well.
00:48:20.000 I'll say this and then can open it up to everybody else, but I think we've already seen that happen, Charlie.
00:48:28.000 I think we've already seen the underperformance happen.
00:48:30.000 2022 is a perfect example of that, where the pro-Trump candidates underperform polls almost in every single case.
00:48:39.000 And we know that better than anyone here in Arizona with Carrie Lake is that she underperformed
00:48:43.000 polls by a lot.
00:48:44.000 So and that's and and I would say that what you're what you're saying, which is there's
00:48:51.000 a lot of manipulation that we know that the left does.
00:48:53.000 I think it's somewhere in the ballpark that all of the very smart people in the election
00:48:58.000 integrity camp say it's six, seven percent.
00:49:00.000 But you know, we we are also noticing that there are a lot of people who just don't turn
00:49:08.000 out unless we chase them.
00:49:10.000 And I'll give you a quick story if I can share this.
00:49:13.000 We have here in Arizona, our ballot chasers out knocking doors, talking to neighbors.
00:49:19.000 We knock on the door of a gentleman who's on our list who did not vote in either 2016
00:49:24.000 You gotta show these pictures by the way.
00:49:26.000 It's crazy.
00:49:27.000 He has all the flags.
00:49:29.000 So he walks in and he goes, uh, they start talking and they quickly get to Trump because he had something that he was wearing or something about Trump.
00:49:36.000 And so he's like, Oh, that's actually what I do.
00:49:38.000 And then they got to him like, are you voting?
00:49:40.000 It's like, you better believe it.
00:49:42.000 And he opens up the garage and it's not just Trump flags that he has.
00:49:47.000 It's turning point stuff.
00:49:48.000 It's everything.
00:49:49.000 He has turning point action yard signs.
00:49:52.000 Now to be fair, he voted in 20 but not 2022.
00:49:54.000 Yeah, so... I think that if I remember.
00:49:57.000 He pulled the data.
00:49:58.000 He didn't vote in 16.
00:49:59.000 He didn't vote in 2022.
00:50:01.000 So this person is a person who is not... And he didn't vote in 18, I don't think.
00:50:05.000 ...reliable as a voter.
00:50:07.000 But he has literally nailed to his wall in his garage every yard sign that Turning Point Action's ever made.
00:50:13.000 So I have a current project.
00:50:15.000 I'm registering voters like crazy.
00:50:17.000 There's a guy that I see when I go for a walk, and he's all in for Trump.
00:50:21.000 And I ask, are you registered to vote?
00:50:22.000 He's like, I'll get to it.
00:50:23.000 I'll get to it.
00:50:23.000 I'll get to it.
00:50:24.000 Every time I see him, are you registered to vote?
00:50:26.000 No, I just haven't had time.
00:50:27.000 I just texted him again.
00:50:28.000 He's like, I'm busy.
00:50:29.000 Like, what?
00:50:30.000 This is insane.
00:50:32.000 This guy loves Trump, wants selfies with me.
00:50:34.000 I now tell him, like, I don't want to talk to you unless you're registered to vote.
00:50:37.000 Andrew, do you know the archetype I'm talking about?
00:50:39.000 Why is it that men have this issue?
00:50:41.000 Young ladies, I feel as if, do what they're told, they register in numbers, they fill out their ballot.
00:50:46.000 It's kind of like men don't do their homework and women do.
00:50:49.000 Yeah, I don't know what the psychology is behind it.
00:50:52.000 But yeah, men tend to be a little bit less planning oriented.
00:50:56.000 They tend to be a little bit more spontaneous.
00:51:01.000 And women are better planners.
00:51:03.000 They just are.
00:51:04.000 I mean, we see this in the workplace, right?
00:51:07.000 Some of our team that are women are like, they keep the lights on and the show moving ahead.
00:51:13.000 And we love them for that.
00:51:14.000 And men, we tend to be a little bit more fly by the seat of our pants.
00:51:18.000 Whatever the case is, though, People, I don't think, believe you, Charlie, when you say that these people love Trump and they're not coming out, but it is completely true.
00:51:27.000 As soon as you start getting into the field and you actually start talking to people, you realize how many of these people there are.
00:51:35.000 There's so many.
00:51:37.000 One out of five of people that attend a Trump rally are not registered to vote.
00:51:40.000 Yeah, that's just the data.
00:51:40.000 I didn't believe it before.
00:51:42.000 And by the way, no one's there registering voters, except for us.
00:51:45.000 I mean, we're there doing it.
00:51:46.000 Well, we are.
00:51:46.000 It should be a requirement.
00:51:49.000 The one time I've seen this done right is Pennsylvania, and that's because it had Turning Point Action, it had local GOP, it had—this is the Trump rally, by the way, in Philly.
00:52:00.000 Scott Pressler, both Maloney's guys were there.
00:52:02.000 I mean, that was the one time—like, you could not turn around without seeing a table in front of you that said, or someone, like, throwing registration papers in your face.
00:52:12.000 That should be every swing state rally.
00:52:15.000 So, and just to be clear, look, Susie, Chris, and James, they're doing a lot of catch-up at a prior damaged RNC, as Tyler well knows.
00:52:21.000 There's a lot of catch-up work.
00:52:22.000 They're doing a great job with that.
00:52:23.000 I want to play Cut 118 here.
00:52:25.000 This is a brutal focus group for Kamala.
00:52:27.000 Brutal in Wisconsin.
00:52:29.000 Play Cut 118.
00:52:29.000 Who do you blame for President Biden being in office in this condition?
00:52:37.000 Who deserves the blame?
00:52:39.000 His close staff.
00:52:41.000 They work with him every day.
00:52:43.000 So I think that's what also makes me nervous about the Vice President Harris.
00:52:47.000 Talk about that a bit.
00:52:49.000 So yes, she's going to be in it.
00:52:51.000 But she also helped keep him in where he's at right now.
00:52:55.000 And if he really is as bad as what they've been saying.
00:52:58.000 I think if he steps down as president and she steps into the presidency before the end of his term, it almost makes me question a little bit more why it didn't happen sooner.
00:53:08.000 She's worked with him.
00:53:09.000 She's been, to my understanding, with him daily or at least a couple of days a week.
00:53:16.000 Why hasn't this been brought to attention?
00:53:17.000 If she's willing to hide that type of information once she's in office, now what's she willing to hide for herself?
00:53:25.000 So we're getting the other tape here and I'm learning this, Tyler, in real time.
00:53:29.000 I talked to five previously undecided voters and they're all going for Trump.
00:53:33.000 But you know, it's amazing.
00:53:34.000 And this is why the Democrats kick our tail in midterm.
00:53:37.000 They all have different passion projects and micro-targeted issues.
00:53:40.000 One was like, I just love JD Vance.
00:53:42.000 The other one was like, I can't stand Kamala.
00:53:45.000 The other one was like, you know what it was?
00:53:47.000 She said, I watched five minutes of the convention.
00:53:49.000 I loved how they talked about drill baby drill.
00:53:51.000 I was like, oh wow, that won you over?
00:53:54.000 That did it for you.
00:53:55.000 And she was like, yeah.
00:53:57.000 Independent voters are notoriously hard to pinpoint as if they all move on the same issue.
00:54:02.000 Here's the brutal clip here.
00:54:04.000 It's about a minute and a half.
00:54:05.000 It's wonderful.
00:54:06.000 This is MSNBC.
00:54:07.000 This is a panel of undecided voters, okay?
00:54:13.000 A focus group of undecided female voters.
00:54:16.000 Right, Jack?
00:54:17.000 Undecided?
00:54:18.000 Oh, this is Trump voters?
00:54:20.000 This is Wisconsin Trump voters?
00:54:22.000 Okay.
00:54:22.000 Well then let's play Cut 143.
00:54:24.000 How do you perceive Vice President Harris compared to President Biden in terms of competency and experience?
00:54:32.000 I think she's worse.
00:54:35.000 She doesn't even know what's going on at the border.
00:54:37.000 Right.
00:54:38.000 And that's what she was supposed to be doing and in charge of.
00:54:44.000 I mean, as a school teacher, if I did not do what I was supposed to be doing, you better believe my job would be in jeopardy.
00:54:54.000 Well, it isn't.
00:54:56.000 Not only was her job not in jeopardy, she was just handed a promotion.
00:55:00.000 Is there anyone that Kamala Harris could appoint as her vice president that you would find reassuring?
00:55:08.000 Would make you consider voting for her?
00:55:10.000 No.
00:55:10.000 No.
00:55:11.000 Never considered voting for her.
00:55:14.000 I would do RFK Jr.
00:55:15.000 way before that.
00:55:20.000 And she's not the first woman to run for the presidency, Hillary Clinton.
00:55:24.000 I'm assuming no one voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016, so it's not necessarily going to sway you to vote for a woman in office.
00:55:34.000 When do you think America will have a female president?
00:55:38.000 When there's a competent one.
00:55:40.000 Just, I don't get a good feel for her.
00:55:42.000 I think she's an idiot.
00:55:43.000 Right.
00:55:44.000 Mary, why do you think that she's not that bright?
00:55:47.000 Because she hasn't done anything in the time that she's had.
00:55:52.000 We don't know anything about her as far as her three years so far in the White House.
00:55:57.000 She's not real smart.
00:55:58.000 First of all, why is the journalist 90 feet away?
00:56:01.000 What is that all about?
00:56:02.000 I mean, literally.
00:56:03.000 COVID.
00:56:03.000 COVID protocol.
00:56:04.000 Yeah, it's MAGA COVID.
00:56:06.000 Secondly, by the way, we have a new poll.
00:56:08.000 We have a new poll that dropped, just so we're clear.
00:56:10.000 And it's very, now we're starting to see a data pattern.
00:56:13.000 This is the fifth or sixth poll.
00:56:15.000 Trump up three in the national polls.
00:56:16.000 Yep.
00:56:17.000 Which, just so we're clear- YouGov?
00:56:19.000 Yeah, this is YouGov.
00:56:20.000 That's a very good poll.
00:56:21.000 That's registered voters.
00:56:22.000 Now, registered voters versus likely voters, if you don't turn out your registered voters, then you get your tail kicked in.
00:56:28.000 Okay?
00:56:29.000 Right, Tyler?
00:56:29.000 Yep.
00:56:30.000 So, but let me just say this, then I'm going to throw it to either Jack or Andrew here, which is to remind you, Joe Biden, in air quotes, won the popular vote in 2020 by four points.
00:56:43.000 And he only was able to hold on to the Electoral College by 41,000 ballots.
00:56:49.000 Where it stands right now, that is a seven-point movement from where the race stood in 2020 at its conclusion, let alone when Donald Trump finished very hard.
00:57:02.000 Andrew, your thoughts on this?
00:57:03.000 The data is now, we have more clarity even now at the end of this program than at the beginning, Andrew.
00:57:08.000 Yeah, I mean, and there was that Harry Enten basically said this on CNN.
00:57:13.000 He said, you know, he pointed out that actually the polling ended up being pretty accurate in 2020 with Joe Biden winning by four points.
00:57:23.000 They basically had him up by four points in a lot of polls.
00:57:26.000 Uh, and you still only win by 42,000.
00:57:28.000 So Harry Enten was making that, that point saying like, listen, Democrats are going to have to do a lot better than even, you know, breaking even in the national, uh, popular vote if they're going to win the electoral college vote.
00:57:41.000 So that electoral college vote, and I think you pointed this out early on your show, Charlie, that what if they end up picking Shapiro, it's sort of an, uh, an admission by the Biden, uh, by, by Harris, uh, campaign that, their path is very narrow.
00:57:57.000 There's only so many pathways to victory there where we have multiple pathways to victory.
00:58:02.000 And we're not even considering in that math, places like New Hampshire or Virginia or any two, right?
00:58:08.000 So all of these other states might come into play when it comes down to election month.
00:58:15.000 But I mean, right now, if we're just looking at the swing states,
00:58:17.000 they basically have to really overperform in places like Pennsylvania,
00:58:23.000 Maybe Shapiro will do that.
00:58:25.000 It looks like they've completely if they do this, they are abandoning the Sun Belt except for Georgia.
00:58:29.000 I think they need Georgia and Pennsylvania, but Pennsylvania is from a registration standpoint.
00:58:36.000 We've been outpacing them significantly Georgia structurally.
00:58:40.000 I still love that state for us.
00:58:42.000 I don't I mean maybe Tyler you've been looking in the numbers recently.
00:58:48.000 But I just think they have a very narrow path, and for Dems to be losing in a popular vote national poll basically means that the Electoral College vote is even that much further away from them.
00:58:59.000 Here's my shirt, Tyler.
00:59:00.000 You're going to love this.
00:59:01.000 I don't want to play 105.
00:59:02.000 Make polls accurate again.
00:59:06.000 Because, you know what that means?
00:59:08.000 That means we've neutralized their ground game.
00:59:11.000 If we are able to make the polls accurate, that means that we fight them ballot for ballot in the field.
00:59:17.000 So I'm going to play 105, but Tyler, what does it mean if RFK is getting 12% in Arizona?
00:59:24.000 I mean, this is a huge deal.
00:59:26.000 And this is, I think, I think what the outcome is going to be if we could be Nostradamus here about the future.
00:59:30.000 I think what you're going to see is you're going to see RFK overperforming the national average in states like Arizona and Nevada, which have a huge libertarian bend.
00:59:40.000 And I think you're going to see RFK outperforming in the traditional Northeast, where the Kennedy name is the strongest.
00:59:48.000 And so any place that has a stronger libertarian type of dynamic, which is Arizona, right?
00:59:55.000 Like you're gonna have libertarians are just like, I hate Trump, but I want to vote for a third party.
00:59:58.000 Right-leaning libertarians will go to Trump much more than left-leaning social libertarians.
01:00:03.000 Right.
01:00:03.000 But the important point is, is that the votes won't go to Biden.
01:00:09.000 Harris, yes.
01:00:09.000 To the other side.
01:00:12.000 But it's harder to chase.
01:00:14.000 It makes it more difficult for them to chase.
01:00:17.000 There's two things.
01:00:18.000 One is that independents, they can't chase as easily now because they will accidentally turn out votes for RFK.
01:00:25.000 And even if that's 1 out of 3 votes or 1 out of 5 votes, that's really bad for them.
01:00:30.000 and the second point and the second point is is that again
01:00:33.000 our votes that just don't like trump are gonna automatically go to the harris
01:00:37.000 ticket let's play cut one of five this is harry enten uh...
01:00:40.000 we are remember one of the laws that we have a presidential politics
01:00:45.000 is that pop presidential elections move at a glacial pace
01:00:49.000 Yeah.
01:00:51.000 And so the Harris campaign, they have a VP selection and they have a convention.
01:00:56.000 If they don't start seeing a repeated tightening of national polls and state polls, it is going to be very hard to turn this aircraft carrier around.
01:01:06.000 I'm not doing hopium right now.
01:01:07.000 I'm telling you as I see it.
01:01:09.000 Placut 105.
01:01:10.000 So I want to take a look at Trump versus Democrat margin.
01:01:13.000 Just remind folks where we were at the end of the 2020 campaign.
01:01:16.000 Joe Biden won voters under the age of 35 by 21 points.
01:01:20.000 What do we see with Kamala Harris?
01:01:21.000 Well, she's still ahead, but the margin here is significantly less.
01:01:25.000 than what we saw with Joe Biden back in 2020. She's up by just nine points. You may make the
01:01:30.000 argument that was better than Biden was doing before he got out, but compared to that Democratic
01:01:34.000 baseline where Democrats have historically in presidential elections, at least this century,
01:01:38.000 been carrying that young vote by 20 or more percentage points, she is way down from that.
01:01:44.000 So if this is unique support among young voters, I would like to know what non-unique support is.
01:01:49.000 Is it even worse than this? And then let's finish it out with cut 106 and we'll do final thoughts.
01:01:53.000 And this I think is rather interesting.
01:01:55.000 Do Democrats say they're more motivated to turn out after Biden left the race?
01:01:59.000 Well, we do see a significant portion of Democrats who say yes, 39%.
01:02:02.000 The thing I was interested in was that disproportionately younger voters who said that they were more likely to turn out or more motivated to turn out.
01:02:10.000 And what we see here is it's 42%.
01:02:12.000 Not a big difference between 42 and 39 percent.
01:02:16.000 So this idea, again, that the vice president has unique potential to dig in and get young voters to turn out, John, it's just not there in the numbers despite all the internet memes that are going around.
01:02:27.000 Tyler, your final thoughts?
01:02:28.000 Well, yeah, I'll just say this is that, I mean, they do need to shift the youth voters.
01:02:35.000 They do need to shift the minority voters.
01:02:37.000 But the more they go that direction, they lose a boomer.
01:02:40.000 That's right.
01:02:41.000 So the direction that they were heading was that the biggest, and we talked about this here on ThoughtGrant, was like the biggest place that we have, the biggest gaping hole is with boomers.
01:02:53.000 Right.
01:02:53.000 And the interesting part about the glacial pace thing that you mentioned is like what happens when you start pushing things around that are extraordinarily heavy is that there's just like the law of physics is that they swing back just as hard.
01:03:06.000 And you've got this situation now where it's like we were actually on a track to lose more boomers with Trump.
01:03:13.000 Well no, we were saying that, is that with Biden, Biden would have done better with boomers, but boomers look at Kamala and they see a radical Californian.
01:03:25.000 That scares the dickens.
01:03:28.000 Yes.
01:03:29.000 And it's more important than that is they just don't associate with her.
01:03:34.000 Right.
01:03:34.000 It was just like the associative thing, which is like they were told for years that Biden was like the calm, cool, collected guy that wasn't going to screw up their Social Security and Medicare.
01:03:45.000 He gets us.
01:03:46.000 He gets us, right?
01:03:47.000 And now they don't have that.
01:03:48.000 So they basically spent most of the majority of this election losing young people, minority voters.
01:03:54.000 And now they're going to have breakneck speed in Fox News watchers now realizing... I can tell you right now, when I talk to Boomers, they say she reminds me of the shrill HR manager that got me in trouble for making an off-color joke.
01:04:09.000 Or she reminds me of like the cringe professor that taught feminist studies when I was in college in the 1970s.
01:04:16.000 And I say, you're right.
01:04:17.000 Well, and here's where I'm thinking with boomers is, again, I think they've already lost.
01:04:23.000 I think the point of that clip is they've already lost enough young voters where it's gonna be really tough for them to recover, especially with RFK still in the race, because you still have an RFK problem.
01:04:31.000 for them right so and RFK is not going anywhere now he's really pissed now because he he should
01:04:36.000 be could be the democratic nominee and he could play total spoiler yeah and and so he's definitely
01:04:41.000 not going anywhere now he's going to work extra hard to go after democrat votes i i think than
01:04:46.000 republican votes now which is really problematic for them whereas before it was kind of like oh
01:04:51.000 is he going to take more trump votes Well, now I can't see a world in which he's not going after those votes.
01:04:56.000 You've already lost that.
01:04:58.000 You're now losing.
01:04:59.000 That's not going to turn ship around.
01:05:01.000 And now Republicans basically have stitched the wound of old people disliking Trump, which every poll leading up to this showed that was the problem.
01:05:09.000 And they've gone the opposite direction.
01:05:12.000 And by the way, that's probably part of the reason why they're not going with a Sun Belt strategy, ultimately, is because they are not going to be able to win the Boomers over.
01:05:23.000 Well, and remember, as Boomers go, Maricopa goes.
01:05:27.000 That's right.
01:05:28.000 If you win Boomers significantly, because Biden did well with Boomers in 20.
01:05:32.000 They didn't like Trump on COVID.
01:05:34.000 It was just like a whole thing.
01:05:36.000 Nevada, Arizona, Florida.
01:05:38.000 Florida's art, the cake is baked.
01:05:40.000 But all these places that Boomers have moved to, I would argue, I even think Texas, for example, that was like trending.
01:05:47.000 Texas is done.
01:05:48.000 I know, but trending in a good direction for them.
01:05:50.000 Trump could win Texas by 15 points.
01:05:52.000 That's right.
01:05:52.000 Now it's like, now they're going to be walking backwards strategically from their 2028 plans.
01:05:57.000 Potentially, yeah.
01:05:58.000 I mean, again, they're playing a lot of defense.
01:06:00.000 Jack, final thoughts, and then Andrew.
01:06:02.000 Look, I'm going to go say again right now, I think this is a reset moment.
01:06:06.000 And I think it's something where a lot of Republicans are saying, OK, just attack, attack with the lowest hanging fruit on Kamala Harris.
01:06:13.000 Be smart.
01:06:14.000 Think about this in terms of demographics.
01:06:16.000 Think about this in terms of how do you turn what they're trying to make her greatest strength into a potential weakness.
01:06:24.000 So the cackling, the laughing, the haha, the oh, she's so cool.
01:06:29.000 You know what?
01:06:30.000 She doesn't care when Americans are suffering.
01:06:32.000 She doesn't care when people are dying of despair.
01:06:34.000 She doesn't care when Lake and Riley's happen.
01:06:36.000 She doesn't care because she has no empathy.
01:06:39.000 You You turn that and flip it around against her.
01:06:41.000 This is how you'll be able to reach those voters.
01:06:43.000 And by the way, on the other side of that is how you show Trump cares.
01:06:48.000 And don't just say and make a joke out of it that say, I took a bullet for this country.
01:06:53.000 No, seriously, he almost died.
01:06:55.000 Donald Trump could have died, but kept going because he loves this country and cares about it so much.
01:07:01.000 That's the story, and any way to tell that story, that emotional story better, is going to be 100% effective against anything she's trying.
01:07:10.000 I want to just kind of show you where we were in 2020 versus right now.
01:07:14.000 Look at 2024 general election.
01:07:18.000 We have CNN poll.
01:07:19.000 It shows Trump up three right now.
01:07:21.000 Latest one is up three.
01:07:22.000 That's three different polls, by the way, show the same thing.
01:07:24.000 Do you know in 2020, Biden was up 8.7 points in national polls at this point?
01:07:30.000 Yeah, they have a lot of ground to make up.
01:07:32.000 That was 8.7 points.
01:07:33.000 And remember, Trump finishes strong.
01:07:36.000 And so this is without Trump unleashed and no air cover.
01:07:38.000 We have not run a television ad.
01:07:40.000 Andrew, super quick, final thoughts.
01:07:42.000 Yeah, I mean, I go back to kind of what Jack was saying, you know, and I remember, Charlie, our event in Phoenix where Joe Arpaio came up to the stage and he said that when my wife got cancer, Donald Trump called me six times.
01:07:59.000 Six times.
01:08:00.000 So when, Jack, you're talking about how much Donald Trump cares, I mean, he called Joe Arpaio six times, a man who has zero power to give him anything, and he just cared.
01:08:10.000 And how many times has he done that?
01:08:12.000 And you compare that with the fact that 92% of Kamala's, or whatever her name, Kamala, I'm honestly trying to do it right, Kamala's staff quit.
01:08:22.000 92% of her staff quit in her years as vice president.
01:08:26.000 And this quote from one of her staffers is just powerful to me.
01:08:31.000 It's clear that you're not working with somebody who is willing to do the prep and the work, a former anonymous staffer told the Post.
01:08:40.000 With Kamala, you have to put up with a constant amount of soul-destroying criticism and also her own lack of confidence.
01:08:48.000 So you're constantly sort of propping up a bully and it's not really clear why.
01:08:52.000 And so this is my final point.
01:08:55.000 She is uncaring.
01:08:56.000 She is calculating.
01:08:57.000 She's an opportunist who, through her boss, Under the bus and just stole his throne to the extent that which he was complicit in that.
01:09:05.000 We don't know to the extent to which he covered it up.
01:09:07.000 We can only imagine significantly and now she's taking her moment and I find I find that one word where her lack of confidence.
01:09:15.000 I think I think Kamala has a massive imposter syndrome that she's dealing with because she knows she never fought a tough race.
01:09:25.000 She's never been tested.
01:09:26.000 She came straight out of the machine in California that propped her up.
01:09:30.000 So much luck and serendipity.
01:09:32.000 She rode the sort of like, I'm kind of like Obama train all the way to the Senate and then got the pick to be VP because in Joe Biden's words, he values diversity, equity and inclusion.
01:09:43.000 So I just think that she is struggling under this weight of imposter syndrome.
01:09:48.000 She has no confidence.
01:09:49.000 Those cracks and those fissures in her own psychology are going to be exposed in a massive way in the coming months.
01:09:55.000 Andrew, excellent.
01:09:56.000 Tyler and Jack, I will say this in closing.
01:09:58.000 It is tempting to think that the election happens to you.
01:10:01.000 You happen to the election.
01:10:03.000 You make it happen.
01:10:05.000 We've been propagandized as if the election is something that we receive.
01:10:09.000 It's something that you go and take.
01:10:11.000 It's something that you go do.
01:10:13.000 You don't just watch it, you are involved in it as an activist.
01:10:16.000 Go to tpaction.com, chase ballots, register voters.
01:10:19.000 God bless.
01:10:20.000 See you soon.
01:10:21.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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