Jack Posobiec is a New York Times best-selling author. He is also the founder of Turning Point USA, a conservative youth organization dedicated to fighting for freedom on college campuses across the country. Jack is the author of the new book, On Humans, and has been a frequent guest on conservative media outlets such as CNN and Fox News. He is a supporter of the 2020 Democratic presidential candidate, Kamala Harris, who is running for president in 2020. Jack has also been featured on CNN, Fox News, Fox Business, and many other media outlets. In this episode, Jack and Tyler discuss how he broke into the top 1% of bestselling authors, and how he became one of the most well-known conservative authors in the world. He also discusses why he was able to break through to the top of the best-seller list and why he should be honored for his efforts to get his book on the bookshelf. And he talks about why he thinks the book is so well received by the media and why the book deserves its place on the bestseller s list. This episode is sponsored by Noble Gold Investments, a company that specializes in gold and physical delivery of precious metals. Noble Gold is the official gold sponsor of The Charlie Kirk Show. That is Noble Gold Investing. That's where I buy all of my gold. That s where I get my gold! and I buy it at Noble Gold . Go to noblegold.investments.co/charliekirkshow.co.nz/memberservices/membership.shtml=1&ref=a&qid=1P1A&q=3&qref=3q&qb=8P1&qq=1AQ&q_t=4P5&qt=3P1 &qb&qw=1M&qc=1S1P&qn=3S5A9&qk&qr=3M8&qd=3s&qx&qf=3Qt=8SZ&qh&qset=4Sdb&qm&qcr&qe&qtr=1s=3D&qsr=3d&qjt=1V&qg&qs=1Qt&ql=3Cq&cr=1I&q
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00:01:42.000And then, the great news today, New York Times bestselling author Jack Posobiec Jack, you have to now change your driver's license to New York Times best-selling author.
00:01:53.000It is now in your intro, it's in your bio.
00:02:10.000And so look, it's just a testament to the book on humans, myself, Joshua Lysak, talking about the fact that we are going into and we are currently in, and what we call an irregular communist revolution, and the fact that the content stands on its own, but You know, really, I just have to thank so many people.
00:02:31.000Vance, of course, who blurbed the book, Tucker Carlson, who gave us a great platform, Donald Trump Jr., Lt.
00:02:36.000General Flynn, Robert Stacey McCain from the American Spectator, Charlie, you, of course, gave Joshua and myself a fantastic, like, hour and a half long interview just about the book itself.
00:02:48.000And really, I think it showed the movement coming together, but also this idea of, A new way of looking at, you know, at what it is that we're up against.
00:02:57.000And the response was tremendous as it was.
00:02:59.000So I will tell you actually that in the, without revealing too much, looking at the numbers and the fact that we had Publishers Weekly number one on our first week out, we could actually see the book scan.
00:03:12.000Yet we actually, in the week we were released, we outsold every single book on the New York Times bestseller list.
00:03:19.000And yet we were not included on the New York Times bestseller list.
00:03:22.000And so there may have been some behind-the-scenes emailing and phone calling that went back and forth, and we were comparing data, and we were looking at different things.
00:03:33.000And let's just say that I'm very glad that The New York Times decided to be on the right side of history and give the book its due, because it earned its place there.
00:03:43.000It earned it through hard work, doing things the right way, and I appreciate the fact that they were able to come to terms with that.
00:03:50.000Plus, by the way, huge shout out, not only JD Vance, having blurred the book, but he
00:03:55.000also hit number one himself in his own right with Hillbilly Elegy, a book that came out
00:04:00.000I think eight years ago when it was first published.
00:04:03.000But it is also number one that just goes to show there's a huge interest in conservative
00:04:08.000books and a huge interest in specifically these types of stories, which the, you know,
00:04:14.000for lack of a better term, the new right, the new MAGA movement is putting out.
00:04:19.000and you're seeing that reflected in the numbers.
00:05:12.000In Tyler's defense, he is hiring hundreds of ballot chasers right now, and he had a very good week getting rid of Stephen Richards, so he can come whenever he wants.
00:06:10.000You know, if you're early, you're on time, etc.
00:06:12.000But all of the other, you know, the ethnic groups out there are, you know, looking at that and saying, yeah, no, we're not on board with that one.
00:06:21.000Which I can say, because by the way, the communities of color of the, I believe it was the Seattle and Portland area, have officially assigned the Slavic community to be considered a community of color.
00:06:35.000So as a proud, and I've always identified as a person of Polish descent, I of course can claim that I am on Slavic People Time.
00:06:47.000So Tyler, we want you to lead our conversation here because it will segue into the Kamala stuff.
00:06:51.000But recap, Tyler, what happened with Stephen Richer, ballot chasing, and the primary this week in Arizona.
00:07:05.000We were on podcast with one of our ballot chasing managers who actually just won in city council here.
00:07:12.000And we were breaking down some of the numbers just from a general's perspective.
00:07:17.000The numbers are not yet in, Charlie, because they're still counting ballots across the state of Arizona.
00:07:23.000There was a law that was passed this last session that forced them to count through the night.
00:07:28.000But still there's people dragging their feet, so they're expecting that the the final ballots will be counted this this weekend and about another hundred thousand ballots, but there was a huge Tectonic shift that happened in this primary which number one a lot more Republicans showed up than Democrats to the primary so that's number one number two you had In Maricopa County, the guy that is the Chief Elections Official, his name is Stephen Richer.
00:08:54.000Took him on, challenged him, and it was the biggest upset of the evening, which was that Justin Heap defeated Steven Richer by a pretty decent margin.
00:09:04.000I think the last check was about six points.
00:09:08.000And so that was the late breaking news that happened here in Arizona this week.
00:09:13.000Why this matters so much is because Stephen Richard was the face of Lincoln Project style Republicans here, which are very few.
00:09:27.000The Democrats really didn't field a legit candidate because this was the Democrats' pick.
00:09:33.000So he got a lot of Democrat support, a lot of Democrat money in the primary, and still the grassroots was able to, with very minimal resources, was able to upset, spread the word, and defeat Stephen Richer.
00:09:47.000So that's a big deal for a couple different reasons we can get into, but it definitely helps Trump through November here in Arizona.
00:09:55.000So I think that's, first of all, congratulations Tyler and Turning Point Action.
00:09:59.000Tyler, can you give some idea, without any numbers because we don't want to totally tell our enemy what we have here in Arizona ahead of November, but can you just give some idea of a ballpark scale of what we saw here on the ground in the primary and why that could be predictive heading into November?
00:10:19.000Yeah, so our job, Charlie, was really simple.
00:10:21.000We wanted to use the primary as a practice ground with our ballot chasing army.
00:10:27.000We have a lot of full-time people that were chasing ballots and using this as practice, knowing that we weren't going to get Absolutely everybody out.
00:10:35.000Primaries generally in most places in America have turnouts around 20%.
00:11:56.000Not always the way that they describe it, but it's sometimes a little bit more in the weeds.
00:12:00.000But this election in particular, why I'm so excited about it, is if they could have done anything to save Stephen Richard, they would have.
00:12:45.000And this is really critical for those that are listening at home in Pennsylvania, in Georgia, in places where we've just been, in Michigan, where the election laws are absolutely horrendous, in Wisconsin, where there's so many of our grassroots that just don't trust the process, and rightfully so, that you can overcome things, you can win.
00:13:07.000Now, you gotta keep in mind, anytime that you oust a incumbent, Doesn't matter if it's if it's ours or theirs, meaning on the more moderate side or the more conservative side, it makes it organically more difficult to win in the general.
00:13:23.000Doesn't matter who it is, because you have to be able to reintroduce this person to the entire society.
00:13:29.000And remember, majority of those people don't vote in a primary.
00:13:33.000So presidential year, you have everybody voting for the most part.
00:15:06.000So there is a fair amount of just doom looping that is happening because we grew so used
00:15:11.000to running up against a corpse, Joe Biden.
00:15:14.000Some people in the audience are not sure what's going on.
00:15:16.000The race looks like it's tightening, and it is.
00:15:18.000However, this is not the time to panic.
00:15:20.000In fact, some of the fundamentals are actually very healthy.
00:15:23.000Let me highlight three different data points.
00:15:26.000Number one, according to a very, very trusted poll, Donald Trump is up 10 points in Ohio.
00:15:32.000If that ends up materializing, that'll be two points better than 2020.
00:15:37.000Secondly, a University of North Florida poll, which is a great pollster, shows Donald Trump up seven in Florida, which is three and a half points better, nearly double the amount of margin of victory back in 2020.
00:15:49.000And finally, there's a series of polls.
00:15:51.000One showed that Kamala Harris is up in Arizona.
00:15:54.000That one's a little hard to believe, but another one showed that Donald Trump was up five, another Trump up six.
00:15:58.000The point I'm getting at here is that even though she is having a little bit of a honeymoon period, That we are stronger than we were in 2020 in Ohio, stronger than we were in 2020 in Florida.
00:16:10.000Now mind you, those are not the swing states that will determine the entire election.
00:17:20.000So this goes to show you that, okay, guess what?
00:17:24.000We thought it was going to be this big blowout with Joe Biden on the ballot, and it probably was shaping up to be that way.
00:17:30.000It was Donald Trump versus a non-candidate.
00:17:33.000But people also have to realize that, and I think some people are, but I want to hear, and I was at the Trump rally last night in Harrisburg and he spoke to this as well.
00:17:41.000He didn't talk about Kamala Harris very much.
00:17:44.000What he really focused on more was the system that we're up against.
00:17:49.000And he of course uses this line again and again with, you know, they're not really
00:17:54.000after me, they're after you, I'm just in the way. So yes, I think he needs to frame the race
00:17:59.000as himself versus the system, that Kamala is just whatever current avatar of the system
00:18:05.000that they have. That's how you get centrists back on board. That's how you get these
00:18:10.000independents back on board. Plus the enthusiastic base support that he's already got. Of
00:18:17.000course, we saw that in droves in Pennsylvania and in Harrisburg and then driving up here to Butler,
00:18:22.000Pennsylvania, you know, just flags and signs all over the place in western Pennsylvania. And
00:18:28.000so there's no question. The key difference, I think, really is that what they're.
00:18:33.000What they're trying to push now is this new narrative candidate.
00:18:37.000And I really do think that there's a lot of definitional issues going on.
00:18:41.000JD Vance, by the way, has a great job of this.
00:18:44.000And I got to say that JD Vance fighting back against the narrative with his own narrative.
00:18:49.000What did he do today that we haven't seen him do yet on the trail?
00:19:13.000Show that JD Vance is a man of the people.
00:19:15.000Show that JD Vance isn't just talking about the forgotten men and women.
00:19:19.000He literally is one of them and talking about stories about how when he was growing up and when his mother would take drugs or opioids before the vental crisis and would take that and he would be sitting there as a little boy holding his mom's hand waiting for her to wake up.
00:19:36.000Those are the types of stories that you need to be using and I think it's fantastic that he's telling those stories.
00:19:58.000But unfortunately, because of the chronic propaganda that's going on in this country for 40 to 50 years now, there are millions of Americans that will vote because of that.
00:21:12.000A former president's comments yesterday to the National Association of Black Journalists where he said that Vice President Harris is, quote, all of a sudden black.
00:21:19.000As a father of three biracial children, did those comments give you pause at all?
00:22:13.000Like, I am becoming a crazy person over the last two weeks.
00:22:17.000Like, from the amount of whiplash, from the amount of, I apologize for using this word, but gaslighting of me about Kamala by the press, by the internet.
00:22:27.000And you know me, I like to fuss where I'll be like, well what about this thing, Charlie, that happened two years ago?
00:22:44.000She ran for president, she got 15% off one of these media, you know, force memes like this where they just talk about how great she is and they talk about her a lot and they got her up to, you know, 15-16%.
00:22:55.000She was polling, I think she topped out in second place behind Biden in 2019.
00:23:01.000She's in that debate where she says that Joe Biden, you know, came onto her school bus to grab her and say like, You can't go to the school with white children!
00:23:10.000And he, like, dragged her off to the segregated school.
00:23:13.000That was, you know, this whole bit she did.
00:23:15.000And, you know, that little girl was me.
00:23:21.000At least, you know, at least in the details of how she described it.
00:23:24.000And so they really pushed her, and then she fell apart.
00:23:27.000She fell apart because her campaign was badly run, it was badly managed its money, staff were unhappy and miserable, and it was basically a total disaster.
00:23:38.000And the reason she got picked as vice president was not because of any special qualities she had, it was because Biden had to cut a deal to win South Carolina, and it appears that that deal was basically, you will choose an African American as your vice president, and he wanted to pick a woman for vice president.
00:23:54.000So, right down there, you're down to 5% of the population, 5-6% of the population is eligible for the vice presidential pick.
00:24:03.000And there were basically three or four people on the short list.
00:24:23.000And it's like three-fourths of the debate and Joe Biden forgot to say it.
00:24:26.000And so there's like that like 90-second intermission where they say, we'll be right back after a commercial break.
00:24:31.000And Jim Clyburn literally gets up out of the stands, out of the seats, and goes onto the stage.
00:24:36.000And everyone's like, what is Jim Clyburn doing?
00:24:38.000He just like bulldozes through people, goes right up to Joe Biden and literally is like, you need to mention the fact you're going to put a black person on the ticket.
00:26:09.000No one thinks that if you had an open primary for the Democrat nomination that Kamala would have won it.
00:26:15.000No one was excited to have her take over after Joe Biden.
00:26:19.000Nobody was thinking Kamala was the natural heir apparent.
00:26:22.000And basically they go with her because they're desperate and they think if we have an open primary it'll rip the party apart and we'll lose.
00:26:29.000And we're just suddenly chucking all of this, just mass hallucination, where we're suddenly going like, Kamala is brat.
00:26:38.000Kamala is definitely qualified for this office.
00:26:40.000Kamala definitely is not just one disastrous, like, you know, Peter Principal promotion.
00:26:46.000She just fails and gets promoted over and over again.
00:26:50.000And that's not even getting into the stuff where people aren't bringing it up because they're worried it'll just be received badly or sound wrong.
00:26:58.000It is 100% objectively true that Kamala got a job paying her $150,000 a year to attend two meetings a month paid for by California taxpayers because her boyfriend, who was married and 30 years older than her, Just gave it to her.
00:27:17.000And you can find California newspapers saying, oh, it's really remarkable how Kamala was given this job she's not qualified for.
00:27:24.000She's the companion of Willie Brown and patronage California.
00:27:32.000And we're just throwing this all out, and we're like, oh, it makes perfect sense to run this person for president.
00:27:36.000Can I ask, quick, just while you're on that note, it seems like there's so many conservatives that are kind of falling for it, though.
00:27:42.000Have you noticed this, that, you know, in your view of the whole situation in your self-imposed exile last week, that it seems like a lot of conservatives and, like, right or right adjacent commentators are just going along with it.
00:27:59.000I think I saw this repeatedly that you know it was Dane like they're saying don't touch certain parts of Kamala's history and I agree it's tough there are ways that can go astray but I do think With Trump, everyone he's gone against, there's almost been one of his strengths is he finds that fatal flaw with a person and he picks at it over and over again.
00:28:20.000So with Hillary, it was Crooked Hillary.
00:29:04.000Everything you are being told about her is like the ad campaign for a bad movie or a bad TV show.
00:29:10.000I think I saw on Twitter someone joked that Kamala Harris is like one of those Star Wars spinoff shows that gets a 95% on Rotten Tomatoes, but then the audience reviews are 30% positive.
00:29:25.000We're having all these people come out and pretending that Kamala's amazing, when we have literally decades of evidence of people on Kamala's own side believing, no, Kamala is not amazing.
00:30:09.000So which goes to my idea, which I am pushing privately and publicly, and I've told the entire team, and I gotta call Trump about this and give him my opinion, which I don't care.
00:30:37.000I think you need—Kamala, she can definitely do a canned line.
00:30:44.000She did it in the debates in 2019, where she basically, you know, she got her 60 seconds to go blast Joe Biden, and the press probably tipped off.
00:30:54.000This is what she would say beforehand.
00:30:55.000We're all there to say like, oh, Kamala made a strong showing in this debate.
00:30:59.000But if you can muddle that even a bit, if you do a town hall where the questions are, you know, they're phrased a bit weirdly because it's an ordinary person, or you just, you put her in a situation where she has to think on her feet and she cannot get away with recite a 60-second bit that she memorized beforehand, it goes badly.
00:31:18.000When she had that okay showing in the first Democrat debate, Everyone after that, she was a mess, because other Democrats would take shots at her, and she couldn't handle it.
00:31:27.000When she has to think on her feet as Vice President, she starts talking in baby talk!
00:31:32.000That's another thing they're just memory-holing, that she goes on a radio show, they ask her about Ukraine, and she describes Ukraine and Russia like the audience are literally in second grade.
00:32:16.000And it's like, yeah, but Ukraine lost their entire army.
00:32:19.000So it's actually something where it's like she was kind of right, but for the completely wrong reasons.
00:32:25.000And yet all of the experts are completely wrong also for the wrong reasons.
00:32:31.000I'll say this, it's kind of interesting, I think that, I'll add context to what Jack is saying, I'm a big believer in speaking simple in politics.
00:32:43.000I think the Republican Party got so into this whole Koch era, like every state needs to have these think tanks, and we need to talk like we're Stephen Moore at every dinner table, and everybody hates that.
00:32:58.000And I get your point that she's so obnoxiously stupid and silly and really has no idea what she's talking about, but I think more people take away from Kamala Harris that listen to her of like, oh, she's relatable, and I understand what she's saying, and all of these things, right?
00:33:14.000And again, I think this is part of the virtue of Donald Trump, too, is that our side, especially the regular man, listens to Donald Trump and they go, oh, I get what he's saying.
00:33:26.000And unfortunately for America, Kamala's baby talk, simplistic overtones that she has with every single issue that's brought to her as Vice President of the United States of America, a heartbeat away from the presidency.
00:33:42.000She probably should be the president right now because who knows what Joe Biden's doing in real life.
00:33:47.000But this is something that works, unfortunately, with most of America.
00:33:56.000We're just gonna have Baby Talk president and she'll have 70% approval and they'll just be like, I like... Well, hold on.
00:34:05.000I want to say though that there's a place for sophisticated language.
00:34:08.000I think part of Vivek's appeal was that he would use bigger words and increased vocabulary.
00:34:14.000I think it's actually how you present it.
00:34:16.000If you talk really, really fast, Like Vivek does, or Ben Shapiro does, or at times I do, I think that anybody can be appealing to that, because it almost kind of becomes a performance sport.
00:34:25.000But if you talk really slow with big words, people just kind of lose you.
00:34:33.000It's like, not everybody can play guitar, but if you can play guitar slowly, people are like, okay, fine, whatever, you're in a bar or something.
00:34:40.000But if you're like Steve Vai up there or, you know, Kirk Hammett going at it or Billy Corgan or something, suddenly people are like, oh, wow, that's amazing.
00:34:48.000Even if, you know, it's totally beyond their ken.
00:35:27.000I do think, I hope, this is really just hope I should say, I hope that, I think you can be more simple, more direct if it helps that the sense is that you're being honest and maybe being serious.
00:35:42.000That's really what stands out about Trump.
00:35:44.000Trump kind of, he had this power starting all the way back in 2015 that he could cut through BS and that was the directness of Trump that was appealing.
00:36:50.000Except now she actually is running and we're going to be punished with this because we are a sinful nation.
00:36:56.000So let me just say one thing about uh so this has been memory hold it's so hard to find by the way I will give a hundred dollars Okay, you hear that, Ryan?
00:37:39.000So they, it could be a mixture between a linguist and an entomologist.
00:37:42.000Anyway, so he was a PhD, and this was back in August of 2016, and he basically went on some show, and he said, Donald Trump's gonna win the presidency.
00:37:52.000And everyone laughed, like, the host was like, what are you talking about?
00:37:54.000He's like, I study language for a living, and let me show you why.
00:37:57.000And it was this amazing five-minute video where he just took a random Donald Trump interview, and he says he does not use words that are more than two syllables unless he absolutely has to.
00:38:07.000And the way he talks in the choppy manner is so digestible and it resonates with people in such a way.
00:38:13.000He said this is 40 years of somebody that has studied himself on TV and that has made his speech patterns in the highest impactful way that a human being possibly can.
00:38:25.000And he said this has been trained into him for 40 years.
00:38:28.000And for example, he'll just say, and the war in Iraq was a mess.
00:38:53.000And he broke it down from the actual, he has like an equation where he's like, if it's more than XYZ syllables over 500 words, you're going to lose the audience.
00:39:02.000If it's less than XYZ syllables, then you're able to maintain the audience.
00:39:06.000And he has this equation and Donald Trump got like the highest or lowest score, as you will.
00:39:10.000And he says, usually the people who get low scores are considered to be dumb, but in presidential politics, this is actually how you win.
00:39:17.000And that's why I think Kamala is so dangerous in a general is because her simplistic nature actually is a huge asset, especially because she's basically like a Manchurian candidate.
00:39:29.000So, I mean, they can literally just stick her out just for simple things, say things in very scripted format, and then hide her.
00:39:37.000And this is like, this is what they do.
00:39:39.000This is like the Katie Hobbs thing, like Katie Hobbs never came out of her hole except for very few things.
00:39:44.000Here in Arizona, we have a few other examples of this where it's like when they don't trust you, they won't stick you out.
00:39:50.000That is actually the biggest best defense against Donald Trump that the Democrats could play.
00:39:56.000That is the that is the game that they play.
00:40:00.000So to that point, like she's we got to try to force her to come out and talk more because the more she talks to Charlie's point is like The more she's going to lose people and the more people are going to resonate with Donald Trump.
00:40:13.000But this is like this week is a perfect example is Donald Trump is outgoing long form in things which is not his strong suit.
00:40:42.000A lot of what Donald Trump does is because of what Charlie's talking about right now, what he's referencing.
00:40:46.000Yeah, one thing I like to point out with Trump is they'll say people say he's like dumb or whatever and actually if you look at sometimes even when his language is confusing it's because it's almost it's like overloaded with ideas that he's struggling to like efficiently put out.
00:41:04.000One that stood out to me even yesterday was when he was at the black journalist event is they made a quip about like the vice presidency and why the pick matters and he kind of just says in passing he's like yeah you know one of the things about the vice president uh pick is it doesn't matter for the race as much as people think it does so you know kind of saying you pick them for the actual successor thing not just to win states
00:41:29.000And he's like, and you know, in the past it hasn't mattered much except, you know, for LBJ who it mattered, but for a political reason, not an electoral one.
00:41:36.000And so like what he's actually saying there, and he doesn't elaborate on this and you have to be a nerd to even notice it, but he's basically saying picking LBJ mattered because he helped JFK steal the election in Texas in 1960, which is this stray fact Donald Trump happens to remember and know about that he probably learned Decades ago, maybe someone, he read the Caro book or someone summarized it to him, or he just remembers the election.
00:42:02.000And he just like sort of alludes to this in passing.
00:42:04.00099% of the people are just going to think he's being confusing, but that's clearly what he's actually referencing.
00:42:12.000He's like overloaded with ideas and that's why he can be so effective just going for hours on end.
00:42:19.000That's why he can actually sometimes be, he can just talk for two hours and it'll almost be tedious because he's got so much stuff he can recall.
00:42:27.000He doesn't need the notes, doesn't need a teleprompter.
00:42:54.000That's like, you're not allowed to say that.
00:42:56.000You're not allowed, Jack, what was the Scott Adams quote about Donald Trump's?
00:43:01.000He talks about directional accuracy, like directionally accurate.
00:43:06.000So it's the idea that he, or he also has a quote, I think he says, no, I know what you're talking about.
00:43:11.000He says, Democrats take him literally, conservatives understand him figuratively.
00:43:19.000You know, something along those lines where he's saying that, like, people know that he doesn't actually mean there's hundreds of millions of illegals spilling over.
00:43:59.000And then also to your point of what you were saying earlier, that this is why Donald Trump's resonance with voters
00:44:05.000is much stronger than say, Paul Ryan, when he was running around with his bow tie
00:44:09.000and his PowerPoint talking about why he was gonna cut everyone's entitlement programs,
00:44:13.000because they can understand what Trump is saying better.
00:44:15.000And then it has that emotional resonance with them because it's stuff that they've been wondering themselves
00:44:20.000or stuff they've been thinking about filling in the gaps of things that they try to understand.
00:44:24.000It's also one of the reasons why, by the way, and I've said this forever,
00:44:27.000that when you're listening to Donald Trump, especially listening and watching,
00:44:33.000that you can understand him so much better because 90% of communication is nonverbal
00:44:38.000than when you're just reading a transcript.
00:44:41.000They'll do this with everything, the Charlottesville hoax, with the drinking bleach hoax.
00:44:45.000They'll show you the transcript and they'll say, oh, here's the transcript, but you know, like pieces of it will be omitted.
00:44:49.000But then if you look at him in public or if he's telling a joke or being sarcastic, which he's done so many times, You can tell from all of the non-verbal body cues that he's giving that obviously he's intending something as a joke or obviously he's being sarcastic or he's making a face or something like this.
00:45:06.000And of course that doesn't transfer over into direct text.
00:45:12.000And so if you're just reading a transcript of it, then you're losing 90% basically of what was going on.
00:45:18.000I want to play this piece of tape here.
00:45:20.000Kamala Harris, who has yet to do a press conference, take a single question since being the nominee, since Biden has been forced off the ballot.
00:45:28.000But I just want us all to acknowledge that Donald Trump has changed the way that we all communicate.
00:45:32.000Can we all agree at this in our public speaking, Jack?
00:45:35.000I mean, we all now have a little bit of Trumpian aspect of how we do from the body language.
00:45:41.000I know someone said that they started talking like Trump at the office place and he got promoted twice as fast than he would have.
00:45:48.000Oh no, because it's alpha power moves.
00:45:50.000And what I would love to actually ask Donald Trump once he becomes president and say, so is this something that someone taught you or that you coached yourself through a series of self-examination?
00:46:02.000I would be fascinated from a public speaking standpoint.
00:46:28.000I think part of it's the New York part of it's probably, I mean, just being around so many people, I think also just in real estate and doing deals and things like that.
00:46:36.000I think when you talk about a person like him, He's very much, and Charlie has seen this in real time too, up close, he's the kind of guy where he wants to get to points very quickly.
00:46:48.000He wants to get to the point in so much that there'll be a conflict and instead of just discussing the conflict for minutes or hours with people, he'll just be like, get this other person on the line or get the other person in here and let's get right to it.
00:47:04.000And that, to me, that is something that is like really adjacent to how he talks, which is like, it's just like, he just wants to get to points.
00:47:27.000He says it four different ways, four different times, makes it as simple as possible and gets right to the point.
00:47:32.000I'm now just imagining a pastor talking in full Trump mode.
00:47:36.000So just like, Jesus, Jesus, he had the biggest, the biggest assemblies.
00:47:42.000They fed over 5,000 people with just a few loaves and a few fish and they filled What was it, nine wicker baskets afterwards?
00:47:52.000They filled so many wicker baskets, the entire Trump Hotel, all the taco bowls could have been made with just the leftovers from when they fed the 5,000.
00:48:03.000Just going on like that for ages, and I like to imagine this existing.
00:48:24.000You're telling me for the first time, which might be one of the greatest Trump moments and underrate, I think it's one of the most underrated Trump moments ever where he could have like gotten blown out in 2020 if he messed this up and he comes off of a rally.
00:49:58.000Jack, I think That's obviously something where, of course, when we have all those reporters reaching out to us saying, oh, why did you mean by this?
00:50:06.000Or, you know, we're watching thought crimes like they do every week and say, what did you mean by this segment, by that segment?
00:50:14.000Why are you so worried about what Charlie Kirk and Jack Posobiec are saying on podcasts, and yet you're not spending any time with just an ounce of curiosity What the sitting vice president, who is effectively, as far as we know, running the White House at this point, is doing on a day-to-day basis and not answering any questions
00:51:20.000And eventually you'll get somebody like a Jake Tapper who's so vainglorious, has such high self-esteem, just believes, worships himself.
00:51:28.000You get somebody like that and suddenly it's going to get under their skin.
00:51:31.000It's going to get under their skin to the point where they're going to have to make it happen.
00:51:35.000Yeah, and this is probably the number one reason why I support, even though this completely screws up the whole Trump 47 stitching on everybody's hats, I totally support, you know, forcing Kamala into the presidency because that would for sure, I am deathly afraid they're going to pull what they did in 2020 with Joe Biden, right?
00:51:56.000They're going to find every excuse in the book.
00:51:58.000Yeah, we don't have that much time left.
00:51:59.000We only have seven weeks here, right, until early ballots are out in most states.
00:52:42.000They are now broadcasting, oh, they're very afraid of her ability to have dialogue and discourse.
00:52:48.000And, all right, they now showed us their weakness.
00:52:51.000We must force her into the public light.
00:52:54.000I just dug this up because I remembered reading this.
00:52:58.000So this is from 2019, and it was a dad whose son worked in an unpaid internship for Kamala Harris.
00:53:08.000And I guess it didn't go well because it went bad enough that the dad wrote an op-ed for The Union, which appears to be some local paper in California.
00:53:17.000And he says, four short episodes I would like to share of his month-long internship for Kamala
00:53:23.000Harris. One, Senator Harris vocally throws around F-bombs and other profanity constantly in her
00:53:30.000berating of staff and others. The staff is in complete fear of her and she uses her profanity
00:53:36.000throughout the day. Second, as Attorney General, Senator Harris instructed her entire staff to
00:53:43.000stand every morning as she entered the office and say, good morning, General.
00:53:51.000He also says, never once during the month-long internship did Harris introduce herself to the son, and he was in a staff of 20 paid employees, like a Senate office.
00:55:32.000Gregory was given instructions to never address Harris, nor look her in the eye, as that privilege was only allowed to senior staff members.
00:55:41.000Now, I can understand some reasons for that.
00:55:43.000I wasn't allowed to refer to Charlie by name until I'd worked here for at least eight months.
00:56:05.000Yeah, it was like, you know, it was like the ancient Hawaiian Kings if your shadow fell on his shadow You broke the taboo and had to be executed then you had to go outside take off your shirt.
00:57:49.000Yeah, kind of like, she does kind of remind me of that, like, that character, that like, uh, that type of character where it's just like, and everybody's worked for a bad boss.
00:58:00.000Just doesn't care about you that much, you know, is, you know, just you're kind of in and out all that.
00:58:08.000The hard part about her and this is politics in general, is that there are some people involved politics that are exactly like Kamala have no reason to get where they get to.
00:58:18.000They're not really genuinely regarded, highly regarded people.
00:58:23.000But they just kind of just fail their way up.
00:58:26.000We talk about that all the time in politics and that's truly who she is.
00:58:30.000She has just like failed upwards her entire career because of it's just convenience I think mostly and adjacency to a lot of people.
00:58:39.000Convenience and she hits like she's been there to hit the demographic checkbox when they need it.
00:58:45.000We got to replace Barbara Boxer Let's get a diverse candidate.
00:59:26.000We call to say Michelle and I couldn't be prouder to endorse you and to do everything we can to get you through this election and into the Oval Office.
00:59:46.000But most of all, I just want to tell you, the words you have spoken and the friendship that you have given over all these years mean more than I can express.
00:59:57.000And we're going to have some fun with this too, aren't we?
01:00:01.000The viral reaction to this makes me think of how on YouTube and Facebook and stuff, there's a whole sub-genre of these, like, those kind of fake videos where it'll be like, Karen is racist, and then gets owned right away, and it's like all clearly fictional.
01:00:32.000Like, this is a transparently fake scene that was, like, shot for the cameras for the campaign, and then people are looking like, wow, so amazing how there's this warmth between Kamala and the Obamas.
01:00:50.000like this could work and if it works I will just I'll just want to die I'll just want to crawl into a hole and and I don't know eat eat a bunch of caramel popcorn or something and then just what a country But!
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01:03:50.000Yeah, if I was a member of the media, I would be so embarrassed of myself and my profession that my entire workplace hasn't asked Kamala a single question since she's got in.
01:04:03.000And that, to me, would make me want to quit, learn to code, do something different, something more productive with society.
01:04:09.000Because if you can't ask the nominee for one of the two major parties a single question before For vetting before they go to the convention?
01:04:18.000Like, what's the point of even having journalists?
01:04:21.000Speaking of, she has like 92% staff turnover and always has.
01:04:25.000We got every single tell-all from like, we're getting people who are JD Vance's college classmates leaking emails.
01:04:33.000You'd mean to tell me that there can't be journalists who find every single person who's ever worked for Kamala and none of them have anything to say?
01:04:40.000None of them have maybe had a bad enough experience they might actually dump on her now?