Jack Posobiec saved Josh Shapiro from becoming the VP nominee, and it was all because of Jack. Jack is a hero to me, and I m sure you ve all heard of him. He was one of the most brilliant people I ve ever met, and he s a great friend of mine. I ll tell you why I think Josh Shapiro would have been the VP candidate if it wasn t for Jack. And if you don t know who Jack is, you re not going to want to miss this one! Tweet me and let me know what you thought of the episode! Timestamps: 3:00 - How Jack prevented Josh Shapiro being the VP Nominee 4:40 - What would you have done if Jack was running for President? 5:30 - Why I believe Jack would have won the VP election 6:15 - Why Josh Shapiro is a better VP candidate than Jack 8:20 - Why Jack would not have been a good VP candidate 9:00 11:15 What is the best thing that could have happened to Josh Shapiro 12:30 13:40 14:20 15:00 Is it possible for Jack to be the VP Candidate 16:00 What do you think of the D.J. Chances of Jack being the Vice Presidential Candidate? 17:00 Do you agree with Josh Shapiro winning the nomination? 18:10 19:00 Did you think Jack would be a better than Chances that Josh Shapiro was a good candidate? 21:00 Does he have a chance of winning the election? ? 22: Is he going to win the VP bid? 23: Does he know what he s going to run for President in 2020 or does he have any chance of being the next president? 25:00 Can he be the next guy? 26:00 Who do you like the best person to run against the other guy in 2020? 27:00 Will Josh Shapiro have a better chance of running against Jack is going to be better than Jack is the next in the primary race than Jack thinks he s gonna win the election or not? 28:00 Are you going to vote for Chances? 29:30 Is he a good guy or is he a better candidate than Chump or Chump? 35:00 How do I know he s not a good person?
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00:03:44.000I started with saying that I'm appreciating your results here.
00:03:47.000And then all of a sudden, on Friday afternoon, I was like, man, he's getting some traction on this stuff.
00:03:53.000And Jack is talking about the fact that he might be in an IDF uniform, and all these left-wing forums are exploding, and the betting markets had Shapiro at 80%, then it was like 70%, then it was 60%.
00:04:08.000And next thing I know, all of a sudden there's these stories being leaked on Sunday about Walls maybe being the guy.
00:04:14.000I was like, did Jack Posobiec just dethrone a five-foot-three sitting governor of Pennsylvania?
00:04:19.000The craziest one for me was when I saw the story start going like, oh, this suicide ruling from a decade ago.
00:04:24.000I'm like, oh, this has to be something really stupid.
00:04:27.000And then I know I bring up this Inquirer, Philadelphia Inquirer article.
00:04:46.000And I don't think... It is definitely a personal vendetta.
00:04:50.000No, no, I mean, of course, but, I mean, Jack, we'll let you kind of tell the story, but I think we all should just do kind of the master's golf clap here.
00:05:15.000Jack, tell us the story of what happened, because this was a 48-hour tsunami of Josh Shapiro, which was like unquestionably the pick, canceling Hampton's fundraisers.
00:05:45.000So, Jack, tell us a little bit about this, and then I want to play this video.
00:05:48.000What happened from Thursday night to Tuesday morning?
00:05:53.000Walk us through the Jack Posobiec Masterclass of Dark Arts.
00:05:57.000Yeah, so, I mean, basically, look, I'll put it this way, you know, I was well-seated for this because, you know, Josh Shapiro and I go way back.
00:06:06.000I first met Josh Shapiro all the way back in 2008 when he was a state rep, and he was basically a local surrogate for Obama, and he was appearing at this, I think it was some debate in like Montgomery County, and that's where I'm from, that's where he's from, right outside Philadelphia.
00:06:24.000And, you know, I could tell, I mean, he's very good on the mic.
00:06:32.000You know, slippery like a needle, these types.
00:06:35.000And people have seen that over the last couple of, I think, days and weeks, culminating in this really cringey speech he gave last night after being passed over, even though he's used to being passed over.
00:06:52.000They're all just passing over Josh Shapiro.
00:06:56.000It's not hard because I can understand how you can miss him down there.
00:06:58.000But the, you know, the real thing is, though, I had so many people reaching out to me from the Philadelphia area, so many people bringing up, especially this case of Alan Greenberg, which, you know, it had, it had been out there before.
00:07:14.000And I think I had mentioned it on Twitter before a couple of times in 2022, when he was running for governor, and I was going up to Pennsylvania campaigning against him and really just Calling out who he was and what he was about.
00:07:27.000But the Pennsylvania Supreme Court then, I guess, for whatever reason, decided to pick up the case and put it under review for the first time since this happened in 2011, by the way, when this poor girl was killed.
00:07:43.000And he wasn't involved in the case initially.
00:07:46.000His involvement as Attorney General comes up way later, in about 2021.
00:07:56.000By the way, it's a crazy way that it gets involved because he gets the case because the family's lawyer, the lawyer of the family of the girl, This will make sense in a second.
00:08:11.000Goes on to run for DA of Philadelphia, and then his name is Larry Krasner, and he's the Soros DA of Philadelphia.
00:08:20.000So, he has a conflict of interest and can't touch the case.
00:08:23.000So, in 2017, he passes it over to the Attorney General's office, that's Josh Shapiro, and Josh Shapiro's office pretends to sit on it for all these years and there's no traction, and then suddenly, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court says, you know what?
00:08:37.000We can talk a little bit about the case later if you guys want, but, you know, like Blake was saying a second ago, it's just a very strange case to have been ruled suicide the way it was.
00:09:43.000I used to see this guy's name is Mike Verb.
00:09:46.000And I used to see him just being like blitz drunk, walking around Walmart at like four in the afternoon, former police officer.
00:09:53.000And he was a Republican who then went and cut a deal with the Democrats and with Josh Shapiro, basically turned over MCRCs, the Montgomery County Republican Committee, control of it to Josh Shapiro.
00:10:05.000And this is what a lot of Republicans in Pennsylvania did to help Shapiro become governor.
00:10:09.000And, you know, people can go back and see what happened in 2022 in terms of that.
00:10:13.000He goes on and is sexually harassing this, I'm going to be very careful about this
00:10:18.000because her name is not public and I don't want to make it public,
00:10:20.000but this female staffer, another female staffer in the office
00:10:54.000Josh Shapiro who is the heir apparent in all of politics.
00:10:57.000Josh Shapiro who has studied Obama's voice and mannerisms down to the exact letter to be able to directly mimic him in such a way that if you closed your eyes you might actually think it's Obama up on stage even though Obama's voice doesn't crack the way Josh Shapiro's does.
00:11:15.000And again, so I'm just getting all of this information from a lifetime in Pennsylvania politics and putting it out and just putting it all out there.
00:11:23.000And by the way, I've got so, so, so much more, but it's also, by the way, You noticed I didn't attack his record.
00:11:30.000I didn't bring up anything about what he had done as governor or anything like that, because I was deliberately making sure to focus on things that I knew would gain traction with the left, with Team Kamala, with their decision-making loop, with the things that their side would care about.
00:11:46.000And then, Charlie, you referenced this, of course, but his His time volunteering with the IDF, also, by the way, a brief stint working in the Israeli embassy, something that I didn't even bring up, but it got recently added to his Wikipedia.
00:11:59.000All of that hitting the Democrat Party as they're looking at going to Chicago, what, in two weeks' time here.
00:12:06.000It just turned into a situation that I think they were terrified of.
00:12:10.000And they said, look, you know, on paper, this guy seems like he makes sense.
00:12:14.000He's got this ability to appeal to crossover voters the way that Tim Walz claims to, but actually doesn't, by the way.
00:12:22.000Shapiro did actually pick up a lot of working-class voters in Pennsylvania and in Western Pennsylvania who typically go for Trump, and so they were these kind of like Trump-Shapiro voters that were out there because these people vote with their wallets, not ideology.
00:12:34.000And look, I just made sure to get into their cycle and get into their headspace to the point where they were so terrified of the skeletons.
00:16:03.000And then also, did they either, like, edit did they dub an actual speech or did they fake a whole
00:16:09.000rally no they kind of they took a previous unrelated labor rally and reconfigured it into a josh shapiro
00:16:16.000vp announcement whoa it was very weird so just was it was what the way they had set it up was it
00:16:23.000was supposed to be a kamal harris um you know just like you like you say this labor rally
00:16:29.000And then when Josh Shapiro's name was being floated around, they said, OK, you know, like you said, they turned it into a shadow Josh Shapiro for vice president rally.
00:16:38.000Then they cut the promo to make it look as if he had already been chosen.
00:16:43.000And there was this there was this statement put out by the Philadelphia mayor's office, by Cheryl Parker's office, saying that, oh, it was it was posted by accident.
00:16:53.000People in Shapiro's office and people in the Philadelphia machine were starting—and by the way, that's Bob Brady up there.
00:16:59.000That's the guy who's run the Philadelphia Democrat machine for an entire generation.
00:17:03.000That one old white guy that you see standing up in those clips, that's Bob Brady.
00:17:07.000Like, if you want to know where the ballots in Philly are coming from, just go check Bob's house.
00:17:12.000That, you know, this was a complete operation because they wanted to make it look like Shapiro was already the shoo-in.
00:17:18.000And keep in mind that when Shapiro was at Cheney University being asked about this, Being asked about J.D.
00:17:23.000Vance, he makes some comments along the lines of, like, I'll be happy to say that to J.D.' 's face.
00:17:28.000I'll be happy to tell that to J.D.' 's face, as if he's going to be seeing him very soon.
00:17:33.000And so this was ready to go, and then something happened this weekend, this last weekend, Jack, where they blinked, they second-guessed, and they decided to go to Bernie Sanders of the Beer Belly, Stolen Valor, You know, I like the smell of burnt tires in the morning, Marxist, driver's license for illegals, tampons for boys.
00:17:55.000I mean, Jack, explain to me how Josh Shapiro was somehow a more controversial pick than the most unimpressive person in American politics that I've ever seen, Tim Walz.
00:18:07.000Well, so the way to look at it this way is, it's the most, he's more controversial for their side, right?
00:18:14.000So he's more controversial because he would have driven a wedge between the Democrats and their base, the same wedge, by the way, you're seeing come out right now with the Cori Bush race last night, the fact that she lost in a very close, I think it was the Fifth most spent on primary in like all of American politics or something.
00:18:33.000So there's this huge intranescene party fight that's going on on the Democrat side right now.
00:18:38.000That's something that, and I kept hearing all throughout that Barack Obama says, just avoid Shapiro, go pick Tim Walz.
00:19:32.000I think it was MJ Lee that posted it from the speech yesterday when Shapiro walked out You go look and everyone around is standing but not John Fetterman.
00:19:44.000John Fetterman is sitting there, he's got his arms crossed, he's got his hoodie on, he kind of looks away as Shapiro takes the stage.
00:19:50.000You think that's happening by accident?
00:19:53.000That's happening because, and he had warned Kamala Harris over the weekend, basically put in through his aides, This message that Josh Shapiro is overly ambitious, and Josh Shapiro is not someone who can be trusted.
00:20:21.000You don't want to put... Vice presidential picks are supposed to be someone that doesn't hurt you, rather than someone who helps you that much.
00:20:29.000So that's what they, they start looking at all of these things and they say, all right, you know, maybe Tim Walz is better.
00:20:35.000They thought he was the safer pick as opposed to Shapiro being the quote unquote controversial pick because we were able to make him look so based on what you're saying is these, these 48 hours of just, um, uh, 48 hours of, uh, of work.
00:20:51.000So, so the Blake, I want objectively, Did we dodge two bullets in Pennsylvania?
00:20:58.000One in Butler, the second with Josh Shapiro?
00:21:01.000Don't give me the Blake objective take.
00:21:05.000What I'll say is, before we got the announcement, Sunday night, we were like, okay, let's make tweets to be ready for this so we can come out of the gate charging.
00:21:13.000And so, full disclosure, we wrote tweets for Walls and we wrote tweets for Shapiro.
00:21:19.000And I was trying to work up the ones for Shapiro, and what struck me was, one, it's harder to write these than it is for walls.
00:21:27.000With walls, it's like, okay, we've got... we have the riots to work with, we have the stolen valor thing to work with.
00:21:33.000I didn't even know about the DUI yet at the time.
00:21:35.000We've got... it just felt like we had tons of stuff to work with for walls.
00:21:42.000We have the stuff we've mentioned, but it was very much, we're essentially, if we get this guy, we're just gonna have to hope the left freaks out about him.
00:21:50.000And maybe they will, but the left is pretty good at coming together and getting over it.
00:22:51.000Remember we talked about the idea and it was kind of interesting because I kind of had that thought when we got sent some insider information on Waltz because some of the Minnesotans sent it and said, hey, they hate him.
00:23:04.000there was like a real opportunity to knock him out last time he ran for governor and the candidate just wasn't
00:23:09.000strong enough wasn't Funded well enough good dude, but just didn't have enough
00:23:13.000to get over the over the top But they when they said no, this is a real possibility.
00:23:18.000Everybody's talking around the ground here It kind of made a lot of sense because it was almost too
00:23:24.000much for the left to not do Because they love that style of like radical which is like
00:23:29.000that very Liz type, you know You know upper middle class
00:23:36.000college educated That's like that's the whole
00:23:41.000Attack vector that the left is taking is just try to take as many of those votes off the table in suburbia way.
00:23:47.000And that's kind of the that's kind of the MO of Minnesota.
00:23:51.000It does make a ton of sense when you look at that if they're going to go all in on Pennsylvania and then try to utilize someone like him to pick off votes in Wisconsin.
00:24:01.000And that's their strategy at this point.
00:24:25.000People think that because he looks a certain way.
00:24:28.000This has been something that, and I know for a fact that we have talked about this on Thought Prime, Yellowstoning and Hicklibs and all of this stuff, that it is this operation that is being run to take like conservative aesthetics and run liberal ideals through them.
00:24:50.000By the way, Charlie, you were, you know, since you were putting me over so much earlier, Charlie was one of the first people to To call this out, when the, uh, who was the, who was the guy, Richman of Richmond?
00:25:10.000And some of us were like, nah, but the song is good.
00:25:12.000You know, some of us being me, of course, um, we're like, no, we like the song, but Charlie was like, no.
00:25:16.000But also, Charlie had a little bit of an ace up his sleeve there, just like I did in Pennsylvania, because Charlie doesn't like country music at all.
00:25:22.000I inherently thought it was, no, it's not music.
00:25:24.000So I was like, I can't stand this guy.
00:25:26.000Yeah, but that's a perfect example of it.
00:25:29.000This idea that you're gonna take someone who's got the aesthetics of, you know, what you would traditionally think of as, like, the George W. Bush type, like, you know, country, Midwestern, wears a cowboy hat, listens to country music, has got a pair of cowboy boots, you know, drinks beer, that type of thing, and Probably owns a couple of guns, definitely owns a shotgun, and yet all of a sudden is like, was like, yeah man, and that's why we need tampons for all the boys on this ranch.
00:26:02.000And that's like, and so this is where the Yellowstone meme came from, which by the way, I also credit for driving Kevin Costner totally out of the show, because we memed him so hard that he refused to even come back for Yellowstone after we made the meme.
00:26:18.000That, you know, it's just been this thing that's going on.
00:26:22.000And Tim Walz is like the political weaponization of the Hicklib trend that's been going on for so long.
00:26:29.000But the problem is that the people of Minnesota can see through it.
00:26:33.000And if you look at his voting patterns, and some people were posting, I think Tom Bevins at RCP was posting the last, the county by county election from his last gubernatorial, which I guess was 2022.
00:26:45.000And it's like, no, he won with metro city areas and like the metro Burbanites and the rural areas all voted Republican.
00:26:52.000So it's just not expressed in the data.
00:26:55.000It's just basically, we've proposed up at humanevents.com a new op-ed from the editorial board saying, no, he's not a folksy Midwestern dad.
00:27:04.000He's what a woke San Francisco liberal thinks a folksy Midwestern dad looks and talks like just because he sounds like he's from Fargo.
00:28:26.000And what's sad is for a long time this did work, and for decades really it would work.
00:28:32.000They honed this whole art of get this, yeah, this like Hick Lib out of Minnesota, where you can use this coded thing of like, oh, he owns guns, and he wears camo, and he knows like what a shotgun formation is, and so he can be this insane, you know, Marxist who believes all the latest gender ideology.
00:28:53.000But I think people are starting to figure this out now, and I'm hoping we can prove they figured it out with how they'll react to Tampon Tim.
00:29:02.000Well, and there's also, you know, I was gonna say, so a lot of people were going after him, you know, early on for, and Tampon Tim's hilarious, by the way, I think it's so funny, and it was so good, and Hillary Clinton even shared the Tampon Tim meme, it's like, They're used to, you know, having the levers of power, but they're not actually smart.
00:29:23.000So, you know, you can trick them into sharing your own memes.
00:29:26.000Like, I remember she was reading Breitbart articles at one point in this insane speech that she gave in 2016.
00:29:44.000So, you know, thanks, Hillary Clinton.
00:29:47.000You know, the really big one, though, I think for Tim Walz isn't necessarily his wokeness.
00:29:51.000It's the and the one that's getting the most traction, even to the point where CNN had to address it and is trying to dispel it as so much is, I think, within probably within 30 minutes of his of the announcement that he was That he was definitely going to be the pick.
00:30:07.000And by the way, I could even go further.
00:30:11.000People saying like, oh, Josh Shapiro didn't really want it, and he was telling people he didn't want it.
00:30:17.000He was in the driveway playing basketball with his son, playing up for the cameras, sitting by the phone, sitting by the phone, and it never rang.
00:30:28.000But probably within 30 minutes of the announcement, I posted a tweet from this letter I found from a couple of Command Sergeant Majors from Tim Waltz's National Guard unit in Minnesota saying that this guy is stolen valor because he shirked a deployment, he deserted before deployment, and has been running around embellishing his record, claiming that he served in combat, claiming that he fought in the war on terror, claiming that he carried weapons of war, and it's just a lie.
00:30:58.000So not only is it a lie that he didn't serve, right, so that's number one, excuse me, serve in combat.
00:31:04.000and it but it's definitely a lie that he served in combat but even more to the point it's it's 10 times more egregious because he deserted his unit just as they were on the eve of deploying and deployment by the way where they lost a 19 year old soldier to an IED and this guy was the senior NCO so he would have been the command sergeant major He then didn't even complete his his E9 school so his command sergeant major school which means that he didn't even retire with his final rank so he's been running around using this rank claiming even like Elissa Farah is saying oh he was he's the highest ranking enlisted man to ever serve in Congress but it's not actually true because he didn't retire with that rank it's it's
00:31:48.000Kind of complicated, but the way to explain it is that sometimes in the military, or a lot of times in the military, in the Navy we call it frocking, it's you get selected for your next rank, and so you kind of get to pin it on, but you don't on your uniform, but you don't necessarily get to actually serve in that rank until you complete whatever the requisite.
00:32:10.000Sometimes there's coursework, sometimes there's other things you have to do to, you know, sign offs, etc, etc, before you get to actually fully attain that rank.
00:32:18.000And because he didn't do that, he didn't follow the rules, he left before his unit deployed to Iraq, where a soldier died.
00:32:26.000He was retired at the lower rank of E8, which, you know, is still a great rank and all, but it's not the one that he was claiming.
00:32:34.000And so he lied, and I found this letter, a paid letter to, um, it's like the Central Western Tribune, back in 2018, of two people just saying, of two retired Command Sergeant Majors saying, hey, this guy's been lying about his record.
00:32:48.000Vance is getting in on it, and I think that's going to become a huge problem for them because it directly goes to what Blake has been talking about.
00:32:55.000It directly attacks him on those same grounds of, like, I'm a man of the people.
00:33:00.000I'm a regular Midwestern guy when you're not.
00:33:03.000So let's now examine this from a political standpoint.
00:33:06.000Tyler, why did they pass over the obviously more impressive astronaut?
00:33:13.000who is the Senator from Arizona, by all objective measurements, is more popular, more well-known than Tim Walz, would have made a much better story.
00:33:21.000He could have been like, my wife got shot, gun violence, all that nonsense that they push.
00:33:28.000By the way, you could say what you want about Mark Kelly.
00:33:30.000Mark Kelly is perched by the CCP, has a very questionable personal life, but he doesn't have this crazy stuff like tampons and boys' bathrooms and late-term abortion.
00:33:40.000I mean, it would have been a much narrower attack vector if they would have went Harris-Kelley.
00:33:45.000And by the way, Harris-Kelley sounds better than Harris-Walls.
00:33:48.000Yeah, Kamala Kelley sounds really, you know, Kamala Kelley.
00:33:52.000Why did they pass over the Arizona Astronauts?
00:33:54.000There's a couple, there's like four different reasons.
00:33:56.000I don't know if we'll get to all of them right now, but the, I mean, you're making a really good point.
00:34:01.000The scary part about Mark Kelly is that he basically has no record at all.
00:34:06.000So he's never served in any kind of capacity before getting elected to the Senate.
00:34:11.000He's done basically nothing in the Senate.
00:34:12.000In fact, the guy hides from everybody.
00:34:16.000So he's not he's not even from here, right?
00:34:18.000The only reason why he claims Arizona is because his wife to I think he really talks to live here for a couple years when he was training for the Air Force of Tucson or some point.
00:34:27.000But yeah, I mean, but his wife's from Tucson.
00:35:13.000So there's a couple different reasons why I'll get into one of them that I think is the most important.
00:35:18.000I think the most important issue for Mark Kelly that you just cannot ignore is I think they are so legitimately concerned about the about Arizona in the long term that any kind of qualification of, you know, removing somebody that is the future for them.
00:35:36.000Like, I think they're afraid we're getting wise to the state.
00:35:39.000Well, number one, they don't want to pull out a talent because they have no one to legitimately replace them with.
00:36:56.000The third point is that legitimately all the numbers and all the trends and everything looking in Arizona right now do not look good for the Democrats.
00:37:24.000We become 20% less populated in three months of the year.
00:37:27.000And younger families leave the state for going out of town.
00:37:30.000to summer snow. I understand where they're all going. Yeah, and they go back to Iowa or they go back to Chicago or they
00:37:36.000go back to Minneapolis. And younger families leave the state for going out of town. So you're out of town for
00:37:42.000three to four weeks in the summertime, different places. So there's a lot of people missing.
00:37:47.000There's a lot of uncertainty for the Democrats.
00:37:49.000They're looking at the operation of things that we're doing and others are coming in and going, wait a minute, you know, the Republicans in Arizona have kind of figured some stuff out.
00:37:58.000You know, there's less of it being figured out in other places.
00:38:02.000And they have dumped more money into Pennsylvania and Wisconsin than almost anywhere.
00:38:09.000They have to win Michigan, so they have a grassroots army that's there in Michigan.
00:44:22.000It is... I'll say, when I'm in Egypt, I had the feeling, like, this country will eventually have a revolution, and, like, half the country will die.
00:44:30.000What what what don't they have a revolution like every five years there?
00:44:33.000Yeah, they had one in 2011 which made the tourism a lot cheaper
00:44:36.000I will say but literally like because the Muslim Brotherhood was in charge. Yeah, well so their economy is very is very
00:44:42.000weak other than other than like tourism
00:44:46.000But they also like scare away all the tourists because they're always trying to scam you
00:44:59.000But, back on topic, with Walls, if he... What I'm wondering is, do we wish we can hit him so bad they force him to drop out, because then it'll be, oh, Kamala's campaign got really damaged, they had to swap someone out.
00:45:31.000But, Jack, at the current trajectory right now of how Walls is getting beat up, I say that it would be silly to laugh at the possibility that Walls Cannot get picked.
00:46:00.000So these guys are very well funded, and they put up a meme today that was one of the worst leftist memes that I've ever seen.
00:46:08.000And I should have grabbed it before we went in.
00:46:11.000But it was something along the lines of like, claim, Tim Walz didn't have the right rank and that he claimed and also short to deployment to Iraq.
00:46:22.000And then the truth and it was just like, In 2005... And it's like, just complete, like, complete gobbledygook, leftist meme, like a paragraph trying to explain its way out of the fact that, you know, he just lied.
00:47:10.000So he's claiming that he served in the opera.
00:47:13.000He was placed playing fast and loose with this.
00:47:14.000So like, for example, when and like, people know that like, I don't try to do the whole professional veteran thing and be like, Oh, by the way, you know, I served all the time.
00:47:50.000So JTF Gitmo was part of Operation Enduring Freedom under DIA.
00:47:55.000Where I served, there were elements in Europe that were in support of Operation Enduring Freedom.
00:48:00.000There were elements in the Philippines that were considered Operation Enduring Freedom because they were counter-terror.
00:48:05.000But from the general public, when you say that phrase, Operation Enduring Freedom, where I served in the war on terror in Operation Enduring Freedom, They think you're talking about Afghanistan because that's where the bulk of Operation Enduring Freedom was.
00:48:19.000And basically, when he was saying that, oh, I was, you know, I was serving in serving in Operation Enduring Freedom.
00:48:28.000That he was actually in Italy in like a support, you know, in like a support role, you know, doing some other kind of some other kind of op, which is totally on base.
00:48:37.000And if last time I checked, Italy now, of course, of course, you can make this joke back then.
00:48:43.000But in 2009, there were not a lot of Afghans in Italy.
00:48:45.000Now Blake would would remind us there probably are a few more now.
00:48:49.000But back at the time, no, that was not the case.
00:48:51.000You were not in danger if you were in Italy.
00:48:54.000So he ran around claiming that he was in Operation Enduring Freedom and played fast and loose with the facts because that same operational name was used to cover a lot of different missions.
00:49:04.000It was not in Afghanistan, and he was more than happy to let people think that he was in Afghanistan.
00:49:09.000So, uh, yeah, I was just texting with some other people there.
00:49:11.000It's, uh, it's not looking good for Walls.
00:49:13.000And so let me ask- And this is just the, like, the cherry on top.
00:49:16.000So is this, is this... Are we a little worried that there's more attention on Walls than Harris?
00:49:21.000Or I think this is just generally good because they're one and the same.
00:49:23.000I think it's good because Wallace is beneath Harris.
00:50:23.000She's a bad candidate, and I think it's going to be incredibly difficult for them to hold this sort of fake plastic smile they've put on themselves for three straight months.
00:50:34.000And I know it's been a tough couple weeks since she came in.
00:50:38.000The polls got closer, a lot of people who'd left Biden came back, and it might even be tough All the way through the convention, because they're going to have positive stuff from that.
00:50:47.000But I think if we're damaging walls and just forcing them to get Kamala out there to try to strengthen the campaign, we're in a good position.
00:50:55.000It will be very hard for them to signal strength with nothing to back it up for that long.
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00:52:27.000law, this could get the congressman probably thrown in jail in violation of the 2006 Stolen Valor Act.
00:52:34.000Which says it is a crime, a federal crime, to portray yourself in writing or verbally as having received an award or declaration authorized by Congress that you didn't receive.
00:52:45.000Congresswoman Wallace is clearly claiming in this picture with this sign to be an Enduring Freedom veteran.
00:52:52.000He is clearly, nobody disputes the fact that he is not an Afghanistan or Enduring Freedom veteran.
00:52:58.000So, this represents a fairly serious issue.
00:53:03.000Now, Jack maybe can correct me on this, but I don't think just claiming to be on an operation would be a crime.
00:53:12.000And technically, I think he was part of Enduring Freedom.
00:53:15.000He's taken advantage of the connection, but it was in support of...
00:53:21.000What I was trying to say earlier is that I've always said I served at Gitmo.
00:53:25.000I've never referred to myself as an Operation Enduring Freedom veteran, even though technically I am, because Gitmo was considered under OEF.
00:53:36.000But it just doesn't feel right, because everyone knows that OEF is generally referring to Afghanistan, and you served in Afghanistan.
00:53:45.000So, you know, is he technically correct?
00:54:02.000Now, that being said, I believe that most of the Stolen Valor acts Have more to do with awards rather than specific operations.
00:54:11.000There's been a bunch of different iterations and the Supreme Court's ruled a bit on this.
00:54:15.000I haven't looked at whatever the most updated version of it is, but I know that it generally has to do with awards.
00:54:22.000That recent Wisconsin poll just dropped, by the way, shows that Trump only down one, and that's a Marquette poll, which is a really good poll.
00:54:29.000And so that's, with all of this Kamala-mentum and all that stuff, Tim Walz, that's a good data point.
00:54:35.000And we've talked about, you know, with Walz and Kamala, I think it shifted the coalitions to be a little bit more like they were in 2016 and 2020, which is good, because what did Wisconsin do in both of those elections?
00:54:48.000Massively overperformed Wisconsin and this is why I were investing so heavily in Wisconsin addition to Arizona and we'll close with this.
00:54:56.000You know people say Charlie what why Wisconsin why Wisconsin?
00:55:00.000It was the closest 2020 state of the blue wall by far.
00:55:04.000It is the hardest to pull hardest to cheat most decentralized and the ones that are the most willing to just kind of check out of TV ads and just really look at the candidates and shock pollsters time and time again.
00:56:17.000I'm not saying that, but I'm saying that have they learned from their polling misses in years past, and this time they've changed their formula.
00:56:24.000They've definitely adjusted them, whether they've done it successfully.
00:56:28.000We really won't know, because what's crazy with this is, we get a million polls and we get one election day in November, and, well, election month in October.
00:56:36.000And I suppose, in addition, the sampling seems to be heavily Democratic recently in some of these states.
00:56:43.000It is, but this is a thing they'll point out every time, and you can't go too far with that because, well, if a candidate is doing better in the election, more people are going to say, yes, I am a Democrat who supports this person.
00:57:26.000I've got more than enough on Josh Shapiro, on Tim Walz, on Mark Kelly, and anybody else who wants to step up and make the very foolish decision of being next to Kamala Harris.
00:57:39.000And it's like, It's like, oh, I'm so sorry.
00:57:41.000I was supposed to be, like, off enjoying the fact that I got this New York Times bestseller in the same week.
00:57:47.000And of course, all the people on the book side are like, Jack, we need you for this interview.
00:57:51.000We're doing a book tour down in Texas.
00:58:08.000What's your background, and how did somebody from Nebraska end up in Minnesota?
00:58:11.000Yeah, well, my wife's from Minnesota, so she took me there.
00:58:14.000Actually, it was based on the educational system in Minnesota was one that we kind of aspired to teach in, so I ended up in southern Minnesota.
00:58:21.000My wife's been there for many generations.
00:58:29.000I deployed in support of Operation Enduring Freedom, my battalion provided.
00:58:34.000base security throughout the european theater from turkey to england uh... in the early stages of the war in afghanistan and that same battalion is now in iraq at this time very carefully worded there our guys we got on this fact thanks so much keep on committing thought crimes will see if the wall survives thanks so much thanks so much for listening everybody email us is always freedom at charlie kirk dot com thanks so much for listening