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00:02:33.000He has a Twitter account with about 260,000 subscribers, which is about 260,000 more than I have.
00:02:39.000Yeah, so the conversation started, fair enough, with him talking about this very in-depth story he did on the Jonestown Cult, claiming that he listened to 2,000 hours of Jim Jones.
00:02:51.000That is a lot of hours to listen to Jim Jones.
00:02:57.000For someone who listens to lots of hours of content, I went through a 180 hours of an Old Testament Genesis Ex Leviticus Numbers Deuteronomy on two times speed sometimes and it took me like all year to do it correctly.
00:03:11.000You know, I just had the thought since I review our podcast episodes.
00:03:15.000I wonder if I've listened to 2,000 hours of Charlie.
00:04:00.000I'm not English, so I don't have any weird motive in asking this, but how would you assess Winston Churchill?
00:04:08.000I got in trouble with my podcast partner, Jocko Willink, one time because he's a New England Dutchman whose family, it's near and dear to their Dutch, but very near and dear to their heart that Winston Churchill is a hero, right?
00:04:24.000And I told him that I think, and maybe I'm being a little hyperbolic, maybe, but I told him, maybe trying to provoke him a little bit, that I thought Churchill was the chief villain of the Second World War.
00:04:41.000But I believe, and I don't really think, I think when you really get into it and tell the story right and don't leave anything out, you see that he was primarily responsible for that war becoming what it did, becoming something other than an invasion of Poland.
00:04:55.000Mind you, there's a picture of Churchill right there.
00:05:09.000So, it's such a big-picture thing, like, I need some context.
00:05:14.000So, his argument—so, he mentions this on Tucker, and then he also did a Twitter thread that is 54 posts long—on X, I should say, X thread—54 posts long, the first of them has 5.6 million views.
00:05:27.000So, that's a surprising amount of play on X for any historical topic.
00:05:33.000And the argument, which this has actually been around a while, Pat Buchanan wrote a book arguing this back in 2008, but the claim is that World War II should have been a small war, that Hitler didn't want a big war, he just wanted to go annex Danzig and that was it.
00:05:51.000And that Churchill forced him to keep fighting because Churchill wouldn't negotiate peace, and so then Hitler had to go do all of these other things that Hitler decided to do.
00:06:02.000Like, he didn't really want to invade the Soviet Union, or do the Holocaust, or do all this other stuff, but then Churchill, like, because Churchill just loved being a warmonger, like, forced I guess forced is the term to do it.
00:06:18.000He forced him to do it, is essentially the argument.
00:06:22.000And I'll confess, this was an annoying thing I had to do.
00:06:25.000I went and I was reading the thread, and I went into this, like, fugue state where I was researching every single assumption that it made.
00:06:34.000Explain the thread to the audience, because the thread is different than the podcast.
00:06:38.000This was released on Tuesday afternoon, I believe.
00:06:41.000Uh, after it started to go viral that he was on it, and I'll just read some portions of it.
00:06:46.000You know, he says, time for a Churchill thread, time for a Churchill thread.
00:06:49.000Why I think Churchill was a chief villain of World War II.
00:06:53.000Uh, and he's, you know, kind of repeats the caveat.
00:06:55.000I don't, he didn't order the most deaths or do the most stuff, but then he basically rewrites this narrative where Churchill is single-handedly responsible for Like why Hitler rose, because he says, Churchill blockaded Germany in World War I, and this caused starvation deaths.
00:07:24.000The blockade thing, as a strategy, had been decided on beforehand.
00:07:27.000He, like, didn't come up with this idea from scratch.
00:07:30.000And then, after the war's over, where they'll always kind of cite it as a controversial thing, is after World War I ends, they continue the blockade until the Treaty of Versailles is signed.
00:07:40.000So they're still blockading Germany in 1919, after Germany has surrendered.
00:08:28.000And that, as a result, by extension, Winston Churchill is responsible for the fall of the British Empire, and some people seem to believe that it's responsible for, like, why wokeness exists.
00:08:40.000And I think that's what's actually going into this most of the time, is I think there's this sort of moths to a flame thing where people like—they're drawn to revisionist takes on World War II, and I think on the right it's because a lot of people, you know, they know World War II looms large, that's the creation of the post-war American global order, and that American global order is now, you know, kind of obsessed with mass immigration and you know, gay and trans rights and all of that. And so they
00:09:09.000Yeah. So let me throw to Jack just so that the audience who's not aware can. So, Jack,
00:09:13.000why don't you explain what we're responding to carry the audience along here?
00:09:17.000Yeah. So it's just basically that there's this this long thread that which which Blake is
00:09:23.000responding to that where where Darrell goes in and basically he makes his case using a variety
00:09:32.000of instances from the end of World War One all the way up to the beginning of World War Two,
00:09:40.000and then later the conduct of World War Two to make this case using these various pieces
00:09:45.000of information that, you know, the typical person who may be interested in history or
00:09:50.000maybe isn't interested in history maybe doesn't know about.
00:09:53.000So like this blockade of Germany which happened Prior to World War II, so what happened, you know, about 30 years prior, at the end of World War I, before the beginning of the Treaty of Versailles, there's all of these various little, and I don't mean to say little, I just mean to say these various instances that he's referring to throughout time, and each of them, when you take them on whole, you know, and you're reading it in a vacuum, you know, it certainly paints a certain picture, and so what Blake has done
00:10:21.000is gone through and actually found kind of responses to all of them.
00:10:26.000And, you know, like, obviously World War II is something that a lot of people, a lot of scholarship has gone into,
00:10:32.000but it's so important for things like this that are so complex that literally involved
00:10:37.000something like 80% of the world's landmass at war at one point.
00:10:41.000They are extremely complicated and so you can't just take one view of it or another.
00:10:46.000Or look at things without it, out of context.
00:11:11.000So there's literally no opposing force on the continent.
00:11:16.000And throughout that summer, Adolf Hitler is firing off radio broadcasts, giving speeches, literally sending planes over to drop leaflets over London and other British cities, trying to get the message to these people that Germany does not want to fight you.
00:11:47.000And I think that if there were people in Britain who, if they hadn't put it this way, if they hadn't been so successful at delegitimizing the peace approach by demonizing Neville Chamberlain and so forth and holding him responsible for the invasion of Poland, that people would have been, they would have understood, like, we don't need another repeat of the First World War.
00:12:11.000You know, we don't, which is not what ended up happening, but that's what everybody thought was going to happen.
00:12:15.000And so Churchill, I mean you have a guy, Churchill wanted a war.
00:12:23.000Hold on, but wasn't Dunkirk the Germans trying to kill British troops?
00:12:28.000No, so the narrative he's going with here, just very basic World War II summary for people who don't have it ingrained in their head from like when they read every middle school World War II book when they were 10.
00:12:41.000I'll watch the movie Dunkirk, by the way, which is a great movie.
00:12:45.000So 1939, Hitler invades Poland, Germany, and Britain and France declare war on Germany.
00:12:50.000Not the Soviet Union, not America, Britain and France, and then, you know, other countries that don't count, like Canada.
00:12:59.000After this, Hitler offers peace, and I think Britain and France understandably say, no, you started this war, we're not going to let you conquer Poland.
00:13:09.000Anyway, the following year, in the spring, Hitler invades into the West, he also attacks Belgium and the Netherlands, which were neutral countries, beats them, conquers France, and then the British are trapped at Dunkirk, and they escape at Dunkirk, they evacuate back to Britain.
00:13:24.000And then what he's saying is after this, the British have been driven out of continental Europe, they're just stuck on Britain, and Germany is essentially the master of Europe from, you know, the Atlantic Ocean to the Soviet Union.
00:13:38.000For lack of a better term, he seems a little butthurt about this.
00:13:54.000Churchill just said, nope, we're going to continue the war.
00:13:57.000And lo and behold, five years later, it wasn't Britain that was surrendering, it was Germany.
00:14:04.000Uh and so this is it's I guess this sounds esoteric but this went viral for a reason and I'll say I've been around the you know conservatism the right for a long time at this point and there's always been this substrate of like Churchill was bad, or like World War II, like the way it went, like we shouldn't have been involved in it.
00:14:29.000And I just can't help but feel that, I don't think it's that like, some people are saying this is like neo-Nazi stuff, I think that's stupid.
00:14:35.000I think what it is, is it's like compulsive contrarianism.
00:14:40.000That, like you've heard, you know, it's held up as this big like great crusade, every movie, like the Nazis, the bad guys, and everything.
00:14:49.000And so, for some people, there's just this overwhelming temptation to say, like, no, actually.
00:14:54.000But I'll be honest, it reminds me of when people say that, like, America or Britain are systematically racist countries.
00:15:00.000You're going to take one of our great achievements, which is beating this absolutely deranged tyrant Hitler who wanted to take over the world and, you know, destroy Christian civilization, And we fought a war against him, and we beat him, and then as a bonus, we managed to beat the Soviet Union.
00:15:17.000It took a few decades, but we even did it without firing a shot.
00:15:20.000That's a pretty good set of accomplishments.
00:15:23.000And I think it's very sad that people are gonna, you know, anyone's gonna come along and say, actually, that was a big mistake, and we shouldn't have done it.
00:15:32.000And especially on the grounds of, as he's saying in that clip we just showed, that, oh, Hitler wanted to make peace.
00:15:38.000Well, there were several opportunities for Hitler to make peace, and there was also an opportunity to have peace known as not declaring war in the first place.
00:15:47.000And there was a person who declared war, and it wasn't Winston Churchill.
00:15:50.000But help me understand, weren't Germans killing British forces in France?
00:16:10.000No, I mean, I don't understand the point.
00:16:12.000Like, they try to eliminate 300,000 British soldiers, they barely get out at Dunkirk, and then you're like, oh, you know, we should go sue for peace?
00:18:20.000I'm saying this entire argument we're talking about Churchill is that the Nazis marched, they totally just like ripped up the entire agreement that Hitler had made with Stalin.
00:18:33.000And they move forward, you know, took over, uh, you know, in, in this pursuit, and it was a really racist anti-Slavic pursuit, which is a really important part of this whole thing that you look at.
00:18:46.000And so that's, you know, the joining of forces.
00:18:50.000And so putting this, this narrative that like, that, you know, Hitler wasn't trying to like, Take more than, you know, what he claimed.
00:19:00.000There was this whole argument over, it wasn't to the Soviet Union, there was this defining line between Germanic peoples and Slavic peoples, and there was this whole dispute over this in the midst of, you know, to say that, you know, the Germans weren't going to do that to anyone else is insane.
00:19:18.000To the Anglos, to anyone else, it's insane.
00:19:20.000Part of this is, why don't they just trust Hitler?
00:19:22.000Hitler was offering them a peace deal.
00:19:24.000Hitler had annexed Austria and then said, I'm not going to do anything more after this, just don't declare war on me.
00:19:30.000And then Hitler annexes Czechoslovakia.
00:19:32.000He gets the Munich Agreement where he takes half of Czechoslovakia.
00:19:37.000That's the last of what I'm going to do.
00:19:39.000And then not even six months later, he annexes the whole country.
00:19:44.000And then he comes up and he's like, OK, and now I'm going to take, you know, he takes the city off Lithuania.
00:19:48.000And then finally he says, OK, now I'm going to go after Danzig.
00:19:51.000And they finally quite reasonably say, no, you're just a lunatic who's like extremely aggressive and revisionist.
00:19:58.000And then reasonably, I would say one of the reasons Churchill doesn't make peace is he says, yeah, well, Hitler's a lunatic, so he's going to keep invading countries.
00:20:36.000Can we, can we just, well, no, you're not missing it, but, but, you know, you know, as the resident Polak, definitely have to point out that, you know, this was a situation where, yes, Hitler, and then two weeks later, Joseph Stalin invade Poland.
00:20:51.000At the time, of course, Poland had this, Basically, they had a treaty, defense treaty, with the UK and France.
00:21:00.000And so this is why the war is declared.
00:21:02.000Which Hitler knew, by the way, that this agreement was in place.
00:22:40.000I mean, every agreement they made, they ruined within weeks or months and ripped it up and just kept going.
00:22:49.000So it's just, and ignoring that's insane.
00:22:53.000Yeah, you go through the thread and I guess it's unfortunate because in the video this guy, Daryl Cooper, I think Tucker Scribeson was like one of the top historians in the U.S.
00:23:05.000and I haven't seen the Jonestown thing, it might be very good, but like all the stuff on World War II is he literally let red, I'm not making this up, all the quotes he does in his Twitter thread are from that book Human Smoke, which is written by a left-wing pacifist erotica writer.
00:23:22.000He has written masterworks such as House of Holes.
00:23:31.000It's a book by a pacifist who just hates Churchill.
00:23:34.000As far as I can tell, he's just mad World War II happened.
00:23:40.000What I'll say is, I've seen this book recommended by people on the right because they want to have this based, dissident take on World War II.
00:23:51.000You know, sometimes the old-school boomer con take is correct, and I'm a boomer con on World War II.
00:23:59.000I think Hitler was bad, and it was good for America and Britain to fight Hitler and beat Hitler.
00:24:06.000And is it a valid take to say Stalin was just as bad?
00:24:10.000And I think America kind of knew that before the war, and we quickly reminded ourselves of it after the war, which is why we had the Cold War.
00:24:18.000Well, and this is one of the important parts is having lived in Russia, the number one thing that every boomer Russian said to me immediately upon learning I was American was, thank you so much.
00:24:30.000If it wasn't for the West, like we would all be speaking German.
00:24:34.000If it wasn't for the West, I don't know if we would have a village.
00:24:38.000And so there's this also, you know, when we're talking about, You know, these ideas is like, you know, there is an argument to be made as well that World War Two, like things could have been a different world in which Hitler still remains in cahoots with Stalin.
00:24:57.000And we live in a German, you know, Soviet world versus an American Soviet world.
00:25:04.000And the eradication of Western ideals is greatly accelerated.
00:25:12.000You can make the argument that we actually, in part, won the Cold War ultimately and the destruction of one of the largest superpowers ever in the 20th century because Western ideals were sewn throughout Soviet culture because of Winston Churchill demanding Stalin and FDR getting on the same page.
00:25:37.000We justifiably get mad when Libs rip down statues of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson and say America is a racist country, America is a genocidal country, America was never great.
00:25:50.000And then it's bizarre to me to see some of the people who get mad about this also turn
00:25:54.000around and they're like, actually, you know, when you visit Normandy and these French people
00:25:59.000are all super grateful that you helped liberate their country, like, shouldn't have done that.
00:26:03.000That was that was bullcrap and a waste of time.
00:26:28.000I'm very pro-Lincoln, and I'm pro-Churchill.
00:26:31.000The Claremont people, by the way, are very pro-Lincoln, pro-Churchill, because they believe that they embody the great man theory, which is that you have these times of climactic history that require prudence, judgment, and valor.
00:26:46.000And sometimes the rules are kind of suspended, but the fruit is civilization.
00:26:57.000And this is where, and Tyler, you and I were chatting about this earlier in the chat, and we get into this a ton in Unhumans, and actually I talked about it when I was on Tucker, regarding Stalin's role in World War II that's just constantly overlooked.
00:27:13.000And the fact that, no, he was running schemes and machinations behind the scenes just as much as everyone else.
00:27:19.000People seem to think that Stalin was just this like, oh, woe is me, this terrible Operation Barbarossa just randomly happened for no reason.
00:27:26.000And no, no, he was just as complicit as Hitler, in many cases, in starting the war.
00:27:33.000And it just on that instance is what I'm talking about.
00:27:36.000And in the further conduct of it, there's, I mean, there's,
00:27:39.000and there's so many different takes, you know, people do these sort of alternate histories
00:27:43.000and they kind of do the whole like, well, and I remember during the Cold War, people would say,
00:27:47.000well, what if we had just let Hitler and Stalin fight each other and hash it out, et cetera.
00:27:52.000But, you know, at the same time, if you're, you know, if you're from that part of the world,
00:30:05.000People would talk about how as an adult, like at, you know, as prime minister, they'd find him in his room and he's like playing with action figures like war toys and army men and stuff and would get mad when people would, uh, would interrupt him, you know, when he was doing that.
00:30:19.000So this is a strange, strange fellow, you know?
00:30:22.000Okay, first of all, I'm gonna defend his honor on that one.
00:30:57.000So an interesting one was The Last Lion is the big popular Churchill biography, William Manchester.
00:31:02.000And, William Manchester's version, he believed Churchill, like, was a drunk, but, like, held his liquor well so that he, you know, could function anyway.
00:31:11.000And then he dies, and volume three of his biography is completed by a different guy.
00:31:15.000And one of the funny things about it is, this second biographer reaches a totally different conclusion, and he says, the evidence is, Churchill always had alcohol with him, so this gave the perception that he was a drunk, but he just kind of said, Guy probably actually drank it pretty slowly, so like he was maybe perpetually buzzed, but not truly a drunk as we would understand.
00:31:35.000But as long as we're into kind of the substance thing, Hitler was not exactly sober.
00:31:42.000I know, so as long as we're introducing substances of World War II characters, Also, Hitler was a vegetarian, which is vastly more messed up than playing with action figures.
00:32:14.000But you know, he kind of grew up in affluence, he was born in Blenheim Palace, born into royalty, just kind of, he always figured money came to him, which was kind of true, but I just don't understand the objection.
00:32:38.000You know, I just recently just got, like, really obsessed into Babe Ruth and, like, his personal... He was, like, a horrible dude.
00:32:45.000Like, a horrible... Didn't do... He was the same thing.
00:32:48.000Was not, you know, drank a lot, had a womanizing thing... So you're saying Babe Ruth is the real villain of World War II?
00:32:54.000No, but it goes back to the Great Man Theory, which is there are heroes in society that are necessary, and there are some character flaws that... many character flaws that most will have.
00:33:05.000But they do something, they move something in society that's really important.
00:33:10.000So anyways, I just wanted to mention that.
00:34:40.000Or, to use an example that's gonna happen anyway, the election.
00:34:43.000Like, you know, I'm really amped up about the election.
00:34:46.000We actually have a chance to shape things.
00:34:48.000Yeah, like, this is like, you know, it's super momentous, the fate of the world might hinge on this election, and, you know, we get to play our marginal role in that, and that feels kind of amazing.
00:35:54.000The reason the Nazi concentration camps are bad is not because they concentrated people in a spot.
00:35:58.000It's because they shot people, gassed people, hanged people, like, worked people to death, tortured people, did bizarre medical experiments.
00:36:34.000But in the grand scheme of the biggest war in the history of the world, Against a total genocidal lunatic who has conquered all of these countries and plunged the world into the abyss, why are you choosing to get butthurt about this?
00:36:53.000And that's kind of why we're talking about this at length.
00:36:57.000Yeah, I think the biggest one, by the way, though...
00:37:02.000Maybe you were going to mention it, but that people do bring up, and I think it's fair, by the way, to talk about afterwards.
00:37:07.000So we had the discussion a couple of weeks ago, after another Tucker interview, when he brought up the question of the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki targeting civilian population centers.
00:37:20.000And I think we also pointed out during that episode, and I'll bring it up here again, that yes, there were strategic bombing campaigns, area bombings, that were conducted over French cities and villages, German cities and villages, many cases that they knew, they knew were going to target civilian population centers, and this was done by the Allies, by the Americans and the British, and then of course to Japan as well, and so they were specifically done to break the morale, to break the backs of the people who
00:37:57.000And so this has been something that the Royal Air Force and others have, people have brought up.
00:38:02.000Again, I'm just looking at the list here, Hamburg, Dresden, Cologne, etc. That this is a huge thing.
00:38:08.000You know, civilians dying in war is, is always a question that would come up later in the Vietnam War with the use of actual firebombing, by the way, the use of napalm.
00:38:18.000And so, you know, there are certainly things you can debate, right?
00:38:21.000There are certainly things that we can sort of look back.
00:38:24.000But again, like, you have to do that within the, you have to put it in its context.
00:38:30.000You have to put it in its context of What you're pointing out here, that this was the most massive war that was ever waged in world history.
00:38:38.000And it also, maybe a final point on this, it emphasizes the importance of wars naturally bring people to excess, it radicalizes people, it makes people desperate, it makes people get extreme, it builds up all of these severe grievances against people.
00:42:52.000But I saw, when I went there, just to finish the story, I went there and there were all these men who were like substantially older than me and they were still, it's Vikings fans here, so they were still really upset about that Vikings Saints game where Sean Payton had... That was terrible.
00:45:29.000I actually have, in my 8th grade yearbook, I actually have a reference to the 85 Bears from, of course, my favorite Saturday Night Live sketch of all time.
00:45:42.000Yes, and the Bears, just to give you an idea of how crazy good the 85 Bears were, we have not won a Super Bowl in 40 years, and it's still the only thing that middle-aged, mildly overweight men in Chicago still talk about is the 85 Bears.
00:48:25.000And you know what's great about being a Packer fan, by the way?
00:48:28.000We're like the only team that's not subject to this extremely terrible NFL policy that they're gonna let private equity buy stakes in teams.
00:48:43.000Look, it is cool that the Packers are publicly owned, but owning a piece of Packers stock, if you are not one of the OG people from the 60s, is a scam.
00:49:09.000That this like very small, moderate, like boring Midwestern town has this powerhouse NFL team.
00:49:16.000The only right you get from buying Packer Stock, the only right you get is you get to go to the shareholder meeting, which is in Lambeau Field.
00:49:38.000Do you know that they have green and yellow days where the green is all the rurals and the yellows are, I might get mixed up, but like all the ticket holders in Milwaukee have yellow holding days and green ones.
00:49:47.000And so when it's like Milwaukee, it's all a bunch of libs that go up and then it's green.
00:52:42.000So you hate the Vikings more than the Bears?
00:52:44.000Yeah, so the thing is, the Vikings are more consistently competitive than the Bears, and they're also just kind of a fun butt monkey to make fun of because their history- like, you can make, and in fact they did make, like an eight-part documentary series on the Vikings' many failures.
00:53:00.000The Bears is just like, oh, here's their 87th quarterback of the last three seasons.
00:53:06.000And they're like, oh, Jay Cutler just managed to throw the ball for 3,200 yards and 12 touchdowns, thereby cementing the greatest offensive season by any Bears quarterback in history.
00:53:17.000Do you think, so of this list, Lions, I agree.
00:56:16.000I think my final map, we had a contest at the Daily Caller, and I got very close to the actual electoral vote total, but I was off in the states.
00:58:43.000Well, so the Eagles lately, the biggest thing this week was this whole thing with the Kamala Harris ad, like the fake, they claimed was a fake ad that went up.
00:58:52.000I don't know if we have the image saying that Kamala Harris is the official candidate of the Philadelphia Eagles.
00:58:58.000And this was going up at at least one bus station in, right in like center city Philadelphia.
00:59:25.000But then there was a guy who, and we got it, what was his name, the mole, he was Christian Molar, who said in the comments, because so this other guy who is a Trump supporter from Philly, went over and started like plastering over the Eagle over this, this Quote-unquote fake ad and then Christian Molar a Twitter user and You know shout out to Laura Loomer for catching this by the way that said in the comments How dare this guy cover up an official ad or cover up an ad like this?
00:59:55.000And if you don't like it, that's too bad and people are like wait who's this guy saying it's a real ad and it turns out that he was the the director of team relationships for the Eagles and actually worked at the Eagles for like a 25 years. So as someone who would be very well within the
01:00:11.000know of actually knowing whether or not this was a real ad. So he's subsequently locked his
01:00:17.000Twitter account and it's become this sort of like whole firestorm as to whether or not this
01:00:22.000guy had potentially actually approved whatever this thing is to go up. I have no sympathy for the
01:00:28.000Eagles and I hope they lose every game and that they sell their franchise for parts. You want to
01:01:07.000Jack should not... Again, by the way, if people want an understanding of who Pasovic is, just understand that I grew up as a Philadelphia sports fan.
01:01:18.000So that should just be your explanation.
01:01:20.000Jack, I need answers on this Kamala ad.
01:01:32.000I've already got I've already got people that are looking into this guy's family because it turns out that this Christian Molnar guy is also from Norristown, Pennsylvania, which is the exact same town that I'm from just outside Philly.
01:03:36.000Like, it should just be... We have a Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
01:03:39.000You go to church, you go watch football, or you just watch football, you know, depending on your point of view.
01:03:44.000And then there's a Monday night game if you're an obsessive.
01:03:46.000And they, them colonizing that one day a week actually is like the perfect level of dominance without it drowning everything out.
01:03:52.000And the other thing is the NFL is the last thing that's on normal television.
01:03:58.000And where I could see them screwing up the Golden Goose is they let a bunch of games go on Peacock, or Amazon Prime or Netflix or something stupid like that.
01:04:12.000And suddenly, too many NFL games are on some bullcrap subscription service that you have
01:05:08.000I just don't get the whole, like, oh, the great amateur sportsmanship when every single player is this mercenary for hire on a one-year contract for whatever booster will pay them the most.
01:06:03.000We'll get our one Super Bowl win that we get with each of our Hall of Fame quarterbacks, and then he'll be the quarterback for the next 18 years, and then he'll go play on the Jets for a year, and then the Vikings.