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00:01:36.000Okay, alright. Well, we were just talking before we went live.
00:01:40.000If you could change anything about the U.S. political system that's not like a partisan thing, like, oh, I'm a conservative, I want a conservative thing to happen, but just change one neutral thing about the system, what would it be?
00:01:55.000Because it was like we were talking about how it feels like this is the never-ending election even though we are actually close to the end of the election and it just feels like it started forever and then we know that whatever the next cycle is it's going to start like probably halfway through election night so we were joking before about how the British have this system where you know you're you're only legally allowed to campaign like I forget what it is three or four weeks prior to the general election Yeah.
00:02:21.000And so, you know, it would be kind of nice if we could have that.
00:02:25.000I mean, obviously it would run up against the First Amendment, but kind of nice if you just like get away from politics for two seconds.
00:03:44.000You want a big government nationalized primary day instead of a state's rights?
00:03:47.000I don't know that it's a super important part of states' rights.
00:03:51.000You don't think it's important that states get to decide?
00:03:54.000Here in Arizona, our snowbirds don't come back until...
00:03:58.000As entertaining as it is, and I guess as lucrative as it is for us as people who cover politics, I don't think it's super amazing that it takes eight months, just the primary process, and we have all this maneuvering where Iowa matters a ton, and then New Hampshire, and then like, oh...
00:05:02.000If your state is doing really bad economically, you would get more balls than the hopper for getting the first primary.
00:05:08.000That's great. If you're the worst, you get more balls.
00:05:14.000I think that it's time, and it's still law, To go back to taxpayer-funded presidential elections.
00:05:21.000Yeah, I think, I mean, that's how you could do it.
00:05:22.000We did it before Obama. No, I mean, it's already law.
00:05:24.000By the way, it's not a new law. It's just that every year the candidates reject the money.
00:05:28.000I think what you need to do is make the money so hard, like, say that you get $2 billion, and then...
00:05:33.000That's it. That's it. But you can't, by the way, just so we're clear, that means there's no fundraisers.
00:05:37.000No fundraisers. And then you have to figure out, and I say this as someone who runs an outside group, a PAC and a C4 with Tyler, you've got to figure a way to rein in the outside groups.
00:05:44.000The Citizens United case was legitimately the right decision, like constitutionally.
00:06:25.000And we're just barely figuring this out as a nation.
00:06:28.000It's so bad. Basically what it has done is it's gamified politics of whoever has the more complex, sophisticated infrastructure against political power, not who has better ideas or a better track record.
00:06:45.000You know why I think it's bad? The entire concept of America is built on the individual.
00:06:50.000So anything that takes away from the individual, whether that's, again, the same argument the left makes against corporations, this is the same thing as corporations acting as C3s and C4s.
00:07:00.000So this would be another controversial kind of secular nonpartisan change, but maybe a little more dangerous and definitely not good for us right now.
00:07:09.000But I do kind of wonder if like, would it be good if we had a very long but in existence like term limit on Supreme Court justices?
00:07:21.000You need to turn this first on Congress before you go to Supreme Court.
00:07:24.000That's what I always say. Look in the mirror first.
00:07:26.000For sure, for sure. So the thinking here, what I'm thinking is, it's clearly like, one thing that's clearly driving the left insane and why they're going to nuke the filibuster and do all this radical stuff is because they see the Supreme Court as this huge obstacle.
00:07:42.000So what if you did it, this is a system, actually I think Steve Saylor proposed this, where basically you still have the nine justices, and what it is is when you get picked, you get an 18-year term, and so a full 18-year term, and if you die or retire, you can be replaced, but that replacement can only serve out your term.
00:07:58.000I have a question. And then what this does, just to finish it up, what this would do is, it means every president would get two picks, and It would take three consecutive terms in a row to get a majority on the Supreme Court.
00:08:10.000And you wouldn't get this thing where it's not as tempting to pack the court.
00:08:16.000And it would diminish somewhat this thing where they've realized having them on the court for life is such an advantage.
00:08:22.000So we're picking 40-year-olds to serve on the Supreme Court now.
00:08:25.000Because they're like, oh, they'll be there for 50 years.
00:08:29.000Both parties are starting to realize the extreme elements latent in the Supreme Court, and I do worry it's going to eventually cause one of them to have a psychotic break and blow up the system.
00:08:39.000It's because post-Bork, the Supreme Court has become politicized.
00:08:48.000And it made sense, too, that we needed it to be more political, because what we were doing is we just had Eisenhower going and picking Earl Warren, and then Earl Warren is going and being like, yeah, I'm just going to remake the entire constitutional order.
00:09:13.000Yeah, Warren, like, I mean, that's why we get all these, you know, insane pro-crime decisions, and then we had a giant crime surge.
00:09:19.000You get... That's where you get the Supreme Court saying, actually, all those laws that ban racial discrimination actually require racial discrimination, and, you know, you have the rights to abortion, like...
00:09:30.000All this insane stuff comes out of the judicial ideology they had.
00:09:52.000Would you want Supreme Court term limits if we could get congressional term limits?
00:09:58.000I don't know that term limits in Congress are overall as useful.
00:10:03.000I don't know what you'd be fixing with that necessarily.
00:10:06.000I worry that if you had term limits in Congress, it would make Congress even more kind of controlled by like lobbyists and DC lifers because there would be no one with like the level of experience in Congress to counteract them.
00:10:17.000They would just kind of do what people advise them to.
00:10:19.000I think that was the intention of Congress to begin with.
00:10:21.000I mean, California has term limits, and is California great?
00:11:11.000We're kind of wildly speculating here.
00:11:14.000The question is if you could change anything.
00:11:17.000Just change anything. You can outlaw someone becoming a lobbyist after...
00:11:22.000That would be another one. Lifetime or decade-long lobbying ban.
00:11:26.000Lifetime. You could do stuff like that.
00:11:29.000Often my thought was you could also hike the pay of Congress.
00:11:32.000Singapore does this. In Singapore, government officials are paid a ton of money But the standards for them are very high.
00:11:39.000So that's one way you could do it. You could maybe say, yeah, senators, you make 400k a year or 500k, but you can never make more than that once you leave.
00:11:47.000Or same for the House. And, you know, that would be a few million dollars.
00:11:49.000People would be annoyed by it. But I think the incentive shift would be...
00:11:53.000Let me talk about one of our partners here, then I have to step out for just a second here.
00:12:34.000I will be right back. You guys keep going.
00:12:36.000All righty. Well, you're going to miss out on a very fun topic, but it's okay.
00:12:39.000Yeah, so, well, Tyler will be good on this.
00:12:42.000So the first one that I wanted to say is just that I don't So, you know, just having little kids, it's really tough, and Tyler, I'm sure you can attest to this as well, that it's really tough having election season being this close to Halloween.
00:12:57.000Because it's like, you want to do, you know, the fun fall stuff, you want to do jack-o'-lanterns and And Tonya Tay is like, oh, let's go on the hayride.
00:13:07.000And I'm like, no, let's go to Pennsylvania and North Carolina and Georgia and win the election and let's go to all this stuff.
00:13:14.000And you're like, meanwhile, you know, because it's again, the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November is the Constitution.
00:13:20.000And that made sense when we were an agrarian society.
00:13:23.000But now it's sort of like, you know, lots of modern countries vote on all sorts of different days.
00:13:28.000And You know, Blake and I were joking before we went live that I used the old joke that, oh, we should vote on April 16th so it's the day after everybody pays taxes or something, you know, that's when you have everyone go to the polls.
00:13:41.000But it's just like, does it really have to be this close to Halloween?
00:13:44.000It's killing you, man. It's just killing me.
00:13:46.000I totally agree. We were just actually talking about this with Charlie because Charlie's like, hey, I've got...
00:13:50.000He's like, I've got some space on my calendar to do some extra things we're trying to figure out with our team, going out and doing more get-out-the-vote stuff because that's how we're thinking.
00:13:58.000We're just like every second, every hour.
00:14:00.000And he's like, okay, I have this time on a Thursday.
00:14:21.000We're thinking of some other strategies that we're going to do, some other things later that night while everybody's at home and kids are lining up their candy on the ground.
00:15:45.000In Eastern Europe, All Saints Day and All Souls Day are bigger than Halloween.
00:15:50.000So, Halloween is growing in westernized places in different parts of even Asia and Europe, but in Eastern Europe, the institution of Halloween goes back to All Saints Day being November 1st, and then All Souls Day is the day after.
00:16:06.000In Eastern Europe, if it's early November and you go to the cemetery, and this is where we get the name Halloween, comes from All Hallows' Eve, and hallowed being a soul or a saint.
00:16:15.000And so, like when you say that our Father, hallowed be thy name, holy be thy name, hallowed, All Hallows' Eve.
00:16:22.000So, on that day, if you go to a cemetery in Poland or anywhere in Eastern Europe, you're just going to see candles everywhere and garlands of wreaths.
00:16:33.000It's not like the Mexican Day of the Dead, although it's not...
00:16:38.000Dissimilar. I mean, there's certainly some similarities to it in terms of honoring those who passed before you.
00:16:43.000But that's really where it goes back to.
00:16:46.000And so you don't know. You don't get like trick-or-treating and jack-o'-lanards and things like this in other parts of the world and the costumes and all.
00:16:52.000Again, you are starting to see some areas that are celebrating it in the American way in the same way that you can go to Japan and China.
00:17:00.000In some places, they have Santa Claus and Christmas.
00:17:03.000But then of course you can't go to Saudi Arabia and celebrate Christmas because Christian holidays are banned in the kingdom.
00:18:12.000It was NBC got together in cahoots with CBS where you would tune in, and they just decided overnight to swap red states and blue states, probably because they saw polling that said that people didn't like the color red as much.
00:18:27.000Well, I think they used to just actually switch it back and forth a lot.
00:18:44.000Tyler, what it was was that some networks did it that blue was the incumbent and then red was the challenger.
00:18:52.000So because Reagan was the incumbent, Reagan was blue, and then his challengers would be in red because red was like the challenger.
00:19:01.000But even prior to that, I think it's what Blake said, it was just sort of like you would depict your opposition as blue, basically.
00:19:07.000Or excuse me, your opposition would be red because during the Cold War, nobody wanted to be red.
00:19:11.000And your point, too, is this, is that worldwide, all of the Labor Party colors, all of the socialism left-of-center colors are always red on every map.
00:19:26.000And again, outside of America, it's the conservative parties sometimes take hold, but then most of them are known as liberal democratic parties, which are the Republican equivalents in most countries, and they're always depicted as blue.
00:19:51.000When Trump takes back over, he should come out and be like, I think we need to have blue back on the map.
00:19:58.000I'm not going to. We're going to make this an executive order.
00:20:01.000It would be an amazing marketing. Everyone would rebuy the blue MAGA hat.
00:20:04.000Yeah, it should be. We're going to do a blue MAGA hat, and this next election, J.D., God bless J.D., he's going to be an incredible president, or whoever Trump endorses.
00:20:14.000He's only going to be depicted as blue from now on.
00:20:18.000Otherwise, we're going to cut funding for PBS. We should do that anyway.
00:20:25.000PBS should come out, hey, just so you know, this next election, Republicans are going to be depicted as blue, and then everyone's going to have to follow suit.
00:20:35.000That's the pathway. Man, I'm looking now, like, through the history, and they're like, yeah, they actually do overtly say this, where they were just like, yeah, like, you know, the red state thing associated, the Democrats were not happy about being associated with, like, pinko commies.
00:20:48.000They didn't like reds, so they wanted blue.
00:21:08.000There was a lesbian boat captain or something?
00:21:09.000Okay, yeah. So basically, I think the worst defeat in the entire history of the Royal Navy was, I think, there was a battle they lost in World War I where one German ship sank eight of their ships or something like that.
00:21:23.000Anyway, when that happened, it was maybe...
00:21:27.000Anyway, I only bring that up for comparison because basically more than 10% of the entire New Zealand Navy just sank in peacetime.
00:21:36.000It was their first ship lost since World War II. Let me get the name because it's this wackadoodle...
00:21:42.000So this is not the U.S. Navy? This is not the U.S. Navy, but it's part of the American Empire because who are we kidding?
00:21:48.000It's New Zealand. And so this was the HMNZS Mana Wanui, a hydrographic vessel commissioned in 2019, and it sank off the coast of Samoa four days ago.
00:22:05.000Because it ran aground somehow, had a gash ripped in it, and the whole thing sank.
00:22:11.000And that is noteworthy, because the captain of this nautical vessel was the first woman and first lesbian commander of a ship in the New Zealand Navy.
00:22:21.000And... You know, people are drawing hateful conclusions based on that, Charlie.
00:22:27.000So, why would they draw hateful conclusions?
00:22:30.000You're not allowed to mention that she's...
00:22:34.000Well, you know, officially no, but unofficially, who are we kidding?
00:22:38.000We're not supposed to talk about it now, but I think we can all agree, you know, before she unfortunately managed to do the one thing you're not supposed to do with your boat, which is sink it by running into things.
00:22:52.000Oh, look at the diversity we have in our Navy.
00:22:54.000We have this extremely diverse person doing this not traditionally diverse job.
00:23:00.000So, you know, we're all very happy about this.
00:23:02.000But this is an incredible thing I wanted to highlight, which right after this happened, a fellow on X named John Conrad, who is the CEO of Maritime News, he had an extremely...
00:25:30.000No, he did. Yeah, it was called the Church of Scientology has a boat right now.
00:25:38.000Oh, yeah, that's where you get the top-level Scientology revelations.
00:25:41.000It's the Sea Organization, the Sea Org.
00:25:42.000O-T-8 or something they call it, yeah.
00:25:44.000But did you know that L. Ron Hubbard, prior to all of this, in World War II served as a Navy officer?
00:25:51.000And when he was in the Navy officer, he worked on a patrol boat out of San Diego.
00:25:56.000And one of his jobs on the patrol boat was to escort aircraft carriers in and out of harbor.
00:26:03.000Again, during World War II, so there was this real risk that Japanese submarines might come in and attack the aircraft carriers as they were going in and out of port.
00:26:10.000This was a time when they were extremely vulnerable.
00:26:12.000Obviously Pearl Harbor had happened, so there was a lot of tension around the harbors.
00:26:16.000And so at one point he escorts this, I don't see what ship it was here, he escorts this aircraft carrier out and then he's bringing it back in and he orders his men to, he's very young here, it was before Dianetics and everything, and he orders the men to sail towards these islands that are just south of Coronado.
00:26:34.000And when he does this, he then decides to hold an unsanctioned gunnery exercise while he's there and says, open fire on those islands and let's just get some gunnery exercise while we're in, unscheduled, etc., etc.
00:26:47.000Well, it turns out that he had actually sailed south of the border and into the territorial waters of Mexico.
00:26:54.000And that those were part of the Coronado Island chain that actually fell under Mexican sovereignty.
00:27:00.000And so, long story short, L. Ron Hubbard was relieved of command for accidentally declaring war on Mexico.
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00:27:51.000On this topic, someone did have a good commentary here, and this is like a DEI-related comment.
00:27:57.000The comment on the thread was, It's always the left celebrating people's sexuality and where they come from, from a minority status or whatever else, until they screw up and then they don't recognize them anymore.
00:28:13.000That's true. Look at this wonderful captain of this ship that's the first lesbian ever to captain a ship.
00:28:19.000And then she sinks the ship and then she's not a lesbian anymore.
00:29:14.000I have a theory, and then I want to hear your theory.
00:29:16.000Well, I mean, look, we saw in 2016 the surprise win in Michigan happened because the left invested so little into the state of Michigan that they thought it was just like a done deal that Hillary was going to win Michigan.
00:29:28.000There's a couple of things to think about we can get into potentially down the road here, but Michigan is just right over the border from Ohio.
00:29:34.000You have a lot of the same things, right?
00:29:38.000Mm-hmm. Are clearly coming out in support of Donald Trump.
00:29:42.000So the polling that's taking place within the SEIU, for example, which is huge in Michigan, is coming out and saying, we've got a big Trump base here that is unexpected, that we've never seen before.
00:29:54.000That spells doom for the left because there's a lot of secret voters, a lot of people who don't want to come out and talk about it because union bosses in the state of Michigan are going to hammer you for coming out and supporting Republicans, but that doesn't mean they're not going to vote for Republicans.
00:30:08.000So that's part of what you're seeing in Michigan.
00:30:10.000They have a huge problem that we've discussed at length in the inner cities.
00:30:14.000In Detroit, I personally saw it walking along the streets.
00:30:17.000There are a lot of black men who are in Michigan who are voting for Trump.
00:30:22.000That's a huge thing. The Hispanic numbers for Trump are up like an extra 15% across the country.
00:30:27.000So all those things kind of pull into one thing, which is that's doom for the left.
00:30:32.000And then not to mention, you have a huge Muslim population that exists in Michigan who are really ticked off at Kamala.
00:30:41.000And if they're looking at this and they're going, hey, if I don't trust Kamala, why would I vote for somebody who's economically going to destroy my business?
00:30:50.000There's a lot of people who are going to vote for Kamala.
00:30:51.000The black men are defecting, and they're trying to do some rap concert or something to rally them.
00:30:55.000The Arab-Muslim thing, which I want to talk about, Blake, the Israel thing is really screwing them.
00:30:59.000It's not getting nearly as much public attention.
00:31:02.000Let's zero in on this. In all the states where the Israel thing is really hurting them, Michigan is number one.
00:31:07.000Number one. And the stuff that's just quietly going on, a very funny one, I only learned about this the other day.
00:31:12.000day. Did you know that the student government at the University of Michigan is like a bunch of anti-Israel zealots? And they got elected on a platform of like, shut it down till we shut Israel down. And they started defunding all of the student programs. And so there's a hilarious article in either Tablet or Forward, one of the Jewish magazines, that's saying like, you know, they're pointing out that kind of no one cared about this like extremely zealous anti-Israel group. And so they started like they
00:31:43.000They started just yanking funding from all these things like they shut down like a shuttle service to the airport or something like that. Because they're like, we're shutting it down until until like a Michigan divest from Israel.
00:31:56.000And so this is the University of Michigan.
00:31:58.000So what stands out there is, of course, this is not just a bunch of...
00:32:05.000It kind of is a crossover of you have Arab Americans and Muslims who are very passionate about this, but also just sort of your young college, really ideologically activated.
00:32:16.000White liberals. Yeah, white liberals. So the people who go to Ann Arbor.
00:32:19.000And so these people who would normally be doing tons of get out the vote, these are the people who would have been, you know, harvesting every ballot for Obama.
00:32:27.000They're the ones who were, you know, pretty active for, well, I should say they actually helped Hillary lose because they were mad about the Bernie Sanders thing.
00:32:34.000Now these people are, this type of person, is very angry about the war in Lebanon, the fact, you know, they're still mad about Gaza.
00:32:44.000And the American wider media has sort of I don't want to say moved on because they are still covering it, but they aren't as attuned to this.
00:32:52.000But for this subset of the liberal coalition, it's a huge deal.
00:33:00.000Have you heard about what's going on with Ta-Nehisi Coates?
00:33:03.000No, but I've seen his name pop up in a lot of group chats.
00:33:06.000Again, I'm a little busy trying to track early ballots.
00:33:09.000Of course, of course. So I'll just set this up.
00:33:12.000He kind of just did the 10-7 thing that they're all doing, basically.
00:33:17.000So he did, but he was one of the first to do it as well, because he signed an open letter right after the Gaza attack that people didn't like the word enough.
00:33:27.000But what was going on with Coates is he has a new book out now, which is I think his first book since Between the World and Me, which is a terrible book, but I'll leave that aside.
00:33:37.000So Coates has a new book out, and one of the essays in it is basically critical of Israel.
00:33:44.000It says Israel-Palestine is apartheid, or whatever.
00:33:46.000And what's very funny about this is suddenly some of the left, because there are people on the left who are very pro-Israel, and a lot of the people who used to push Coates really aggressively got very amped up about this and attacked him.
00:33:58.000And this is blowing up CBS News right now, because I need to get the clip number...
00:34:04.000So this is 135. He's on CBS News, and they're interviewing him about his book.
00:34:09.000And just imagine the guy who everyone was saying was like the greatest black intellectual in America getting treated like this in 2014-2015.
00:34:16.000Let's play 135. And I have to say, when I read the book...
00:34:21.000I imagine if I took your name out of it, took away the awards and the acclaim, took the cover off the book, the publishing house goes away, the content of that section would not be out of place in the backpack of an extremist.
00:34:35.000And so then I found myself wondering, Why does Ta-Nehisi Coates, who I've known for a long time, read his work for a long time, very talented, smart guy, leave out so much?
00:34:44.000Why leave out that Israel is surrounded by countries that want to eliminate it?
00:34:49.000Why leave out that Israel deals with terror groups that want to eliminate it?
00:34:53.000Why not detail anything of the first and the second intifada, the cafe bombings, the bus bombings, the little kids blown to bits?
00:35:00.000And is it because you just don't believe that Israel, in any condition, has a right to exist?
00:35:08.000Well, I would say the perspective that you just outlined, there is no shortage of that perspective in American media.
00:35:20.000They had to have a meeting. They apparently have a race department inside CBS News.
00:35:25.000Why? Because you can't take tough questions.
00:35:27.000It's a race unit, actually. It's like a special investigative unit just focuses on race.
00:35:32.000No, no, but is it that they were too hard on him or not?
00:35:34.000That they were too hard on him. That they were too hard on him.
00:35:36.000Coates himself actually handles it fine, I think.
00:35:38.000I don't like Coates, but he's kind of a genial guy, so he actually responded to it well.
00:35:43.000But a lot of people were like, this was a racist attack on him.
00:35:48.000And of course, they say CBS is shilling for Israel too hard.
00:35:51.000So this is roiling CBS News in a huge way.
00:35:54.000And so if you look at kind of the corners of X that we're not normally seen, that's what's going viral here. People got super angry that they got so aggressive on him.
00:36:03.000And so I think if you're seeing this shift, this is to get it back to Michigan.
00:36:08.000This issue is still very much alive. If you are a person who's active and involved on left-wing politics, they are paying attention to this a ton, even if maybe our show isn't talking about as much or Fox News or even other mainstream news outlets if they're not focused talking about as much or Fox News or even other mainstream news outlets if they're not focused on as much. It's still a top one, top two issue for these left-wing groups that Kamala is probably going to need to get over the hump in Michigan. And I think people often
00:36:37.000overstate the percentage of these states that is Muslim or Arab, but it's still a real amount.
00:36:42.000I think in Michigan it's four or five percent. And if you imagine that's maybe normally a 70 percent Democrat demographic and if that only becomes 50 percent, 45 percent, if a lot of them stay home. We've often discussed how in any of these swing states about 45 percent of the vote is just locked in for each side.
00:37:01.000So a little like 1% dip in your turnout is catastrophic.
00:37:05.000I have a projection to make here, I guess, an estimation.
00:37:09.000I bet Kamala is going to lose more of the Muslim vote in Michigan than Trump will lose of the Mormon vote in Arizona and Nevada.
00:37:19.000No, I mean, this is the whole narrative that they're trying to push from the Kamala campaign in Arizona and Nevada, is that, like, oh, oh, oh, all this stuff.
00:37:28.000But the real story that's happening to this point is that there is a significant bleed-out in the Muslim vote.
00:37:35.000I would argue even the Jewish vote, but we'll see.
00:37:38.000It's just not... The polls say it's not happening so far.
00:37:42.000And the same thing with Mormons, right?
00:37:44.000So, like... That could be part of the narrative that comes out of this election is, you know, Trump wins, as we expect in the Sun Belt, Trump wins Arizona and Nevada, right?
00:37:57.000And we look at the numbers and Trump potentially picks off Michigan.
00:38:02.000Well, a big part of the narrative and story needs to be and should be is that, hey, you know, we need to spend more time, number one, with the unions.
00:38:10.000And this is a big conversation for the next four years is we need to talk about Vladimir Lenin hated the unions for one reason, one reason alone, because communism and union spirit don't jive together.
00:38:24.000And so we have to talk about that and how they all work together.
00:38:28.000And we need to embrace that in the right way with the Republican Party.
00:38:32.000But then this whole issue on the Muslim communities, which is that it turns out when you come to America and you're looking for the American dream and you want to run a business that's more important than You know, just like kowtowing to these stupid little idiosyncrasies that the Democrats have within minority communities.
00:38:52.000And if we break through that in the next year, it's game over.
00:38:56.000And that's not just with the Muslim community.
00:38:57.000Like we mentioned, that's with the Jewish community.
00:39:22.000I think all this talk that the left focuses on, all these little tiny minority communities, including the LDS community that's here, the Muslim community, we have to take what's there on the table and make a real effort in the first year of the Trump administration.
00:39:42.000Well, no, just from the union perspective that I know that, you know, looking at Pennsylvania and I know we started talking about Michigan, but Josh Shapiro up there is not whipping the union votes the way that you would normally see in a presidential year.
00:39:54.000You're not seeing the big union bosses come out for Kamala Harris.
00:39:57.000You're just not seeing that level of support at the institutional level.
00:40:01.000And then at the, you know, the factory level or whatever you want to call it, the construction site level, You're not.
00:40:07.000Again, those guys are all Trump supporters to begin with.
00:40:10.000So the fact that you're not seeing this big union support, the firefighters union just come out to say that they're not going to be endorsing this year.
00:40:17.000This is a jump ball. There's a real jump ball here.
00:40:40.000So are the Republicans as a party, and will the administration, the Trump administration, which Deo Valente will come into power in a couple of weeks here, that are they really going to make strides towards that?
00:40:54.000And I think J.D. Vance, of course, being that generational pick, a transformational pick, to be able to do so is uniquely positioned to make that outreach.
00:41:02.000So the other thing that they're saying that's playing a role in Michigan is Michigan has a ton of working class men that are low propensity, that because of Michigan's looser voter registration rules, I think you can register up to the day voting, right, Tyler? Yes, you can. That there's a lot of working class men that are getting into the roles that are throwing off Democrat projections.
00:41:24.000There is a ton. I mean, in Michigan, more than any other place, there is what you could call technical school culture.
00:41:31.000Where you don't go to four-year college and you just kind of, because of the auto manufacturing, understand it's not just that you work for Ford or GM, it's all the auxiliary industries.
00:42:03.000It's tied into Michigan. It's interesting if that's correct, because it would be backfiring.
00:42:09.000When I've said, I've argued Michigan is probably the toughest get, and one of the biggest factors is they have probably the most militant left-wing government of any of the swing states.
00:42:20.000You have Whitmer, you have their Secretary of State, who I, is that Noslin or something?
00:42:25.000No, Dana Nessel is the Attorney General.
00:42:28.000Yes. And then you have Jocelyn Berger or something.
00:42:47.000They're highly effective political operatives.
00:42:49.000They care about maximizing the left's odds of getting wins.
00:42:54.000And... For Democrats for decades, that was make it as easy as possible to register, make it as easy as possible to get those low-propensity voters in.
00:43:04.000If we're correct that low-propensity is a conservative-leaning group this election, it would definitely be funny and interesting if we were to win Michigan and maybe not Wisconsin specifically because of that.
00:43:16.000And I'm checking polymarket odds right now.
00:43:18.000They still say Pennsylvania is the most likely of the three kind of blue-wall states we're looking at.
00:43:24.000But Michigan is surging. But it's right up there.
00:43:28.000Here's my prediction. Again, Kamala has no lack of money because she's getting, you know, probably, allegedly, Iranian laundered money through ActBlue, which there's no way that ActBlue is legitimate.
00:43:36.000There's no way. I'm sorry. There's no way.
00:43:38.000Part of it is, part of it is. There is no way.
00:43:49.000I think, Blake, you're hitting something really smart, which is that kind of like the reign of terror of, like, middle-aged women of Michigan.
00:43:56.000The reign of terror of the middle-aged women of Michigan.
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00:48:46.000You know, a real thought crime would be Forrest Gump's not a very good movie.
00:48:50.000You don't like Forrest Gump? Okay, I get why people like it, but especially 30 years on, I think we have to recognize a lot of Forrest Gump is the most obnoxious elements of boomer self-worship.
00:49:06.000Yeah, you can say that it's not a good message, but it is a good movie.
00:49:20.000You don't have to like his voice, but you can appreciate the historical context that's built around the movie.
00:49:26.000Ignore the whole story. But it's just like the entire movie is just like mentally...
00:49:30.000A mentally challenged boomer lives through important things and becomes rich inexplicably and also makes the civil rights movement succeed.
00:49:40.000That's why every boomer connects with people.
00:54:27.000But then online has basically taken the place of all family, a big chunk of friends, all college, all school, all neighbors.
00:54:38.000Basically what it's saying to me when I look at this is that people don't leave their house anymore or even start relationships, any kind of relationships, whether it's friendly relationships, at school, at college, with neighbors, all of that.
00:54:54.000So it's like if you don't meet someone online, the only chance you have to meet them is maybe a shot with friends and then at work.
00:55:01.000Well, I think what's actually interesting looking at this that I do wonder about is the decline in, you know, both school and co-workers is going to line up a lot with sort of the rise of, you know, like Me Too, kind of sexual harassment, like you can definitely like get in a lot more trouble for this than you used to.
00:55:19.000And, you know, I think there's a libertarian economist, Brian Kaplan, who will talk about this and others will too.
00:55:29.000When you think of who should you be pairing off with, you'd want people you have things in common with.
00:55:33.000You have shared interests or shared passions or just shared culture, shared nature, shared stuff in common.
00:55:39.000And one of those things would be people that you are co-workers with.
00:55:43.000And you know, given that we have integrated workplaces now, it's actually kind of insane that it's like so frowned upon to basically like date coworkers now.
00:55:51.000And it used to be, if you look at into the 90s, like 15, 16% of people, of couples met while they were at work and you spend a lot of time at work.
00:56:01.000It's kind of wacky to say that that's largely not acceptable.
00:56:07.000When you were in college is basically the single best time you have in your life where you are around a ton of people who are presumably not married, who are about your age, about your, you know...
00:56:19.000But marriage is not prioritized for It's not.
00:56:21.000It's not. And that's bad. But I'd say, one, it's not prioritized.
00:56:24.000But two, there's a lot of things that actively discourage it as well.
00:56:27.000I think people are very much trained to be afraid of any level of romantic forwardness or interest that's not carefully mediated.
00:56:37.000I think a big thing that drives online is not simply that it's easy.
00:56:43.000Where you can communicate with someone and it's assumed off the bat that this is a romantic communication and people want that security blanket.
00:56:53.000And the problem is that that is very unromantic.
00:56:58.000It is super unromantic to have none of that ambiguity to it.
00:57:01.000And I think it messes people up, actually.
00:57:04.000Yeah, I mean, then how many people are meeting online then?
00:57:19.000Now, some of those, you know, church declines, but I would say, like, you know, there are religious versions of dating apps.
00:57:26.000There's, you know, Catholic Match, JDate, Christian, all of those.
00:57:30.000I have a friend who met someone through, like, a Lutheran dating app, and he had to, like, drive an entire state over because he's in one of those bespoke types of Lutheranism that...
00:57:41.000There aren't a ton of. So that does happen.
00:57:43.000There is some element of that with online.
00:57:46.000But a lot of all of the trends with online are bad.
00:57:49.000The other reason it's good to be dating people that you meet in real life is it's a much more...
00:57:59.000A big problem with online is you create this problem when you're competing with essentially everyone in the world as opposed to the more rational, like you are interfacing with the handful of people you know in your town, in your workplace, in your neighborhood, that sort of thing.
00:58:15.000Once you're online, people get decision paralysis.
00:58:17.000This is bad with women because women can get...
00:58:19.000You can go on an app and you can get a match from...
00:58:24.000How do you ever remotely choose between all of those?
00:58:26.000You don't. Your temptation is always to maybe go after the most desirable one, but women tend to be much like one another, and so they will like similar things, so they'll all end up competing.
00:58:37.000There's a whole... A cascade of problems that come from everyone being online.
00:58:43.000And it's going to destroy civilization and kill us all, Charlie.
00:58:45.000I think you're right. All right, everybody.