The Charlie Kirk Show - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 59 — Special Don Jr. Edition

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00:01:20.000 All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard.

00:01:22.000 Tonight is Thought Prime Thursday.

00:01:24.000 Jack Posobiec, Blake Neff are here.

00:01:27.000 We're holding down the fort.

00:01:30.000 Charlie is currently on route.

00:01:33.000 And so, Blake, let me get this straight because people are asking about Election Day.

00:01:38.000 And Election Day is coming up.

00:01:40.000 And people are saying, hey, you guys are going to be live.

00:01:42.000 Are you going to be streaming?

00:01:44.000 What's the deal?

00:01:44.000 What's the plan?

00:01:45.000 You're doing a super stream.

00:01:47.000 And, you know, everybody knows that Charlie loves to do his long and long form late night streams when it's election season.

00:01:55.000 Everybody remembers 2022.

00:01:57.000 We had a lot of interesting moments.

00:01:59.000 And that's really kind of when we kicked off the current iteration, I think, of the Charlie Kirk show and these streams.

00:02:05.000 Blake, you're out there in Phoenix.

00:02:07.000 So, you know, I haven't really talked to Charlie about this yet.

00:02:10.000 So what is the plan for election night?

00:02:12.000 So we're still hammering this out.

00:02:16.000 What's kind of funny is I feel like we're going to end up in this contest to see who can be more fanatically committed because Charlie, he lives somewhat.

00:02:25.000 I'm not going to say where he lives, but he doesn't live right next to the studio, which is one reason he's always like on his way here and such.

00:02:32.000 But I'm not sure what the full details are, but I think he might have a temporary setup so that he can just be right on top of the studio.

00:02:45.000 I live across the street, but for me, even that's not good enough.

00:02:49.000 So what I am planning to do is, my plan is that once we go live...

00:02:55.000 To start covering the election on, I'm not sure what time it would be, probably 5 p.m.

00:03:00.000 Eastern on the East Coast or something.

00:03:02.000 My vow is that I will not go...

00:03:04.000 Right before polls close.

00:03:07.000 Yeah, right before polls start closing in Kentucky and Indiana, those early ones.

00:03:11.000 But once we go live...

00:03:13.000 Once we go live, I will not go off the air in some capacity, whether it's on Rumble or YouTube or TikTok, I will not go off the air until the election is decided.

00:03:23.000 And we are going to straight up put an air mattress probably right over there, maybe out in the green room.

00:03:28.000 Wait, wait, wait.

00:03:29.000 Decided?

00:03:30.000 Yes.

00:03:32.000 I have.

00:03:33.000 I don't know if anyone else is going to collaborate on this, but this is my vow.

00:03:37.000 This is my...

00:03:38.000 So wait, like no cap, like you're saying that you're not going to go off air because we already know Al Schmidt, the secretary of state out in Pennsylvania, is already saying that he's going to be slow walking the votes and the counting.

00:03:51.000 And in Pennsylvania, the law already says that you can't.

00:03:54.000 So in Pennsylvania, for example, you can't count the mail-in ballots until the polls actually close.

00:03:59.000 So for all the people like myself who have voted early, those ballots don't even begun to begin We'll have not begun to be count until 8 p.m.

00:04:08.000 Eastern.

00:04:09.000 So we'll have already been going for three hours, which all is a long way of saying that, you know, we're probably not going to know, unless it's like an absolute blowout, right?

00:04:18.000 Unless it's like an absolute just landslide, blowout, etc.

00:04:22.000 kind of win.

00:04:23.000 We're not going to know on day one.

00:04:25.000 And if it's closed, this is going to go for days.

00:04:28.000 What do you mean you're going to be on air for days?

00:04:30.000 What if it goes full 2000 Bush v.

00:04:32.000 Gore?

00:04:33.000 What if it ends up going for weeks on end?

00:04:35.000 Won't that be amazing, Jack?

00:04:36.000 It'll be incredible.

00:04:38.000 So, okay, so your plan is that, I mean, you have to sleep, you have, like, physical, what about when you go to the bathroom, Blake?

00:04:46.000 Obviously what we'll do if we go to the bathroom is we'll make sure someone is carrying the phone along, and we'll just prop it outside the bathroom. 0.94

00:04:52.000 I'm not that deranged, but we will verify, we'll still be live, but I'll just be, you know, I'll be behind the door of modesty, and then...

00:05:00.000 Are you going to use a bread pan?

00:05:02.000 Or a bed pan?

00:05:03.000 Or like a catheter?

00:05:05.000 We can get you a catheter maybe.

00:05:07.000 We're working on that one.

00:05:10.000 I suspect it'll probably only be on TikTok at night or something.

00:05:10.000 It'll be funnier.

00:05:14.000 What do you think, folks?

00:05:15.000 Send us your comments.

00:05:18.000 How should Blake pass the election if he vows to not go off air?

00:05:24.000 Should we get him a bucket?

00:05:25.000 We'll just call it the Blake bucket.

00:05:27.000 And the Blake bucket will be in the corner, not like the corner of the room, like some sort of outside corner of the parking lot where you can go at 5 in the morning or 3 in the morning or whatever it is and deal with the fentanyl zombies out there.

00:05:40.000 And yes, that will be the Blake bucket, and none of us need to worry about that.

00:05:45.000 It's going to be great, Jack.

00:05:46.000 I'm going to have a full blast.

00:05:47.000 I mean, I won't be off air.

00:05:49.000 Maybe I'll be not paying super close attention.

00:05:51.000 Maybe I'll start boring whoever is on TikTok at, I don't know, 7 in the morning and just start droning on about reading Alexander to Actium or something, which I have been reading.

00:06:02.000 It is 600 pages long, so I can probably get a lot of that done during the downtime, but...

00:06:08.000 Elections are so much fun.

00:06:08.000 I don't know.

00:06:10.000 My thought process was, I'll literally just be on my computer all day in the aftermath just looking at the election results.

00:06:18.000 So we might as well share it with the masses.

00:06:22.000 And if it goes long enough, who knows?

00:06:25.000 It could be a legendary stream.

00:06:27.000 Yeah, there is an, well, more than one stream.

00:06:30.000 There's an interesting, you know, kind of thing that happens with elections where it's like, and you can already kind of feel it happening in a sense because the early vote is, it's just weird.

00:06:42.000 So the momentum is weird because normally this would be the closing phase We're good to go.

00:07:01.000 You know, typically you would see the close of the election.

00:07:04.000 And I think that because of early voting, that sort of changed for a lot of people.

00:07:09.000 But basically with Election Day itself, I guess what I'm trying to say is when it's a normal Election Day, when it's, you know, a one day of voting or something, that despite all your schemes and your plans and your operations and your October surprises and your, you know, successes and your victories and your failures and your bumps along the way, Election Day just kind of happens.

00:07:31.000 It's sort of just, you build up all this momentum to one 24-hour period, and then you just sort of lose control of it, and then people just go.

00:07:42.000 The decisions are made, the tumblers are locked, And it just happens, and it's sort of out of your hands at that point.

00:07:47.000 There really isn't much to do.

00:07:49.000 There's so much stuff happening all at once that it overwhelms whatever system you could actually have.

00:07:54.000 I remember in 2012, there was the Mitt Romney Orca app that was going to centralize their get-out-the-vote operation.

00:08:02.000 Oh, my gosh.

00:08:02.000 I remember Orca was so bad.

00:08:05.000 No time to deal with it.

00:08:07.000 I even remember in 2016, what was it?

00:08:10.000 There was like a website that was supposed to be like tracking Hillary Clinton's vote as it came in over the course of the day.

00:08:17.000 And they were like claiming they already knew that the election was over and Hillary had won at 2.30 in the afternoon or something.

00:08:25.000 And then they just got clowned on it.

00:08:27.000 To this day, I have no idea what they were actually doing there.

00:08:30.000 They just claimed they had the numbers for it.

00:08:33.000 But...

00:08:34.000 Yeah, it's just there's so much information happening all at once in 50 states, but then there's House, and there's Senate, and there's the presidential stuff, and you're going to have all these things go viral.

00:08:45.000 One thing that'll just be on us to watch this is you're going to have videos that people post on Twitter where they're going to be like, this proves the fraud is happening because this person's getting this ballot out.

00:08:56.000 The truth is a lot of that will be bogus, will be red herrings. 0.74

00:09:02.000 This year we'll even maybe have AI deepfakes of things going on.

00:09:06.000 You'll have wild claims from the left, some claims from the right.

00:09:10.000 Everything is going to be as chaotic as possible, and it will be our job to help shepherd people through.

00:09:17.000 Even an election you win is a trying, difficult time.

00:09:21.000 Take it from me.

00:09:22.000 Hopefully it will be one that we win, though.

00:09:25.000 I see a lot of good signs.

00:09:28.000 I see good signs, but at the same time, you know, the polls are not something we want to go by.

00:09:34.000 Polls are for firefighters and, as Charlie mentioned, something else the other day.

00:09:39.000 But no, what I'm going to be doing is you're going to be there on air the whole time.

00:09:43.000 My plan is actually to be going through, like I've done the past two presidential elections and so many elections, Prior to this, I'm going to spend Election Day in my hometown of Norristown and then my home city of Philadelphia.

00:10:00.000 And usually what I do is I start around 7 a.m.

00:10:05.000 or 8 a.m.

00:10:06.000 and I get out there as soon as possible and then I just start riding around.

00:10:09.000 I literally just start riding everywhere that I can to get to the various places.

00:10:15.000 Places that are going on, you know, I look into a lot of, in many cases, like in 2020, we had that video from Will Chamberlain, who was working as an election lawyer, a volunteer.

00:10:26.000 with these task forces in one ward in philadelphia of a guy getting thrown out of a poll watcher getting thrown out of one of the election uh the polling locations in philadelphia and that went as you said super viral and we were able to confirm that that did in fact happen uh will went down as a lawyer And was able to document all of it.

00:10:47.000 And so, you know, various things like that that will be going on throughout the city of Philadelphia.

00:10:51.000 And then I am going to hop on a plane.

00:10:55.000 So I will not be able to be broadcasting the entire time.

00:10:58.000 Because I'm going to go throughout Philadelphia.

00:11:00.000 Then I'm going to hop on the plane.

00:11:01.000 And then I will join you on the stream as soon as possible.

00:11:06.000 It could be over by then, Jack.

00:11:08.000 What if you miss all of the excitement?

00:11:10.000 No, it won't.

00:11:12.000 It won't because I figured this out.

00:11:14.000 I've been looking at flights and doing the physics of this that I can actually hop on a plane right before polls close in Philadelphia and make it to Phoenix before the polls close in Arizona.

00:11:27.000 Jack, you don't understand.

00:11:29.000 What if we win so big that they look at the numbers and they say only 10% of the vote is in, but Donald Trump, he's going to win.

00:11:36.000 Pennsylvania, because he's getting 80% of the vote in Philadelphia.

00:11:42.000 And then, so we know he's got it.

00:11:44.000 Then that's still a win.

00:11:45.000 He'll have already called.

00:11:47.000 And I get to be there for the party.

00:11:49.000 They'll already have called New York for Trump.

00:11:51.000 They'll have called, like, the Madison Square Garden rally will swing it.

00:11:54.000 Oh, so New York and he's at the Bronx right now.

00:11:57.000 They'll get New Jersey.

00:11:59.000 It'll just be a total sweep.

00:12:01.000 Virginia, the old Dominion State falls.

00:12:06.000 Yunkin delivers Virginia.

00:12:07.000 Then we go down, we get North Carolina, we get Georgia, we get the 30 out of Florida, and we call it an early night and we go home.

00:12:13.000 We'll be here.

00:12:14.000 We'll be celebrating.

00:12:14.000 People will be looking around and they'll be saying, Where's Jack?

00:12:17.000 I don't see...

00:12:18.000 Where's Jack?

00:12:19.000 And everyone will be wondering.

00:12:21.000 And they'll just conclude, it must be that he didn't believe.

00:12:24.000 He must have abandoned us.

00:12:25.000 And then they'll all be really sad.

00:12:27.000 That's what people are going to think, Jack.

00:12:29.000 No, no, no, no.

00:12:29.000 Because people have already seen my videos going incredibly viral all throughout the day.

00:12:34.000 All throughout.

00:12:35.000 Which, by the way, if that happens, if it does look like that happens, then what I will probably end up doing is when I'm at the airport, I'll literally just go and buy a ticket to another flight.

00:12:46.000 Maybe I'll fly down to like Mar-a-Lago or something and be like, yeah, forget that plane.

00:12:50.000 I'm going on this one over here.

00:12:51.000 And then you won't even have to go through security.

00:12:53.000 It'll be so easy.

00:12:55.000 There's so many things we could do.

00:12:56.000 So in 2016, that is kind of similar to what I did.

00:13:00.000 So it looked as though Trump was going to win Pennsylvania based on the fact that in all the wards of Philly, when I went down to South Philly, I went to North Philly, I went to West Philly, I was in Center City, and there was just no...

00:13:15.000 So typically when people vote on Election Day, and again, this was the old way we did elections, so we're not going to have any You know, data on this going into it.

00:13:22.000 But the old way people voted was that you'd vote on Election Day and there'd be essentially three periods of heavy voting.

00:13:28.000 The first would be the pre-work vote.

00:13:30.000 Like, my mom was big on that.

00:13:31.000 She's a big pre-work voter. 1.00

00:13:33.000 You know, before she goes to work, she's going to that polling place. 1.00

00:13:35.000 She's there at 730.

00:13:36.000 She's just one of these, you know, A-type personalities.

00:13:39.000 And she would always be there beforehand and then I'd, you know, get there later.

00:13:43.000 And then you get sort of like a lunchtime rush as well.

00:13:46.000 So the pre-work voter then leads into the lunchtime voter.

00:13:50.000 So you get people, if they're polling places, you know, if it makes sense, if it's conducive, they'll go at lunchtime.

00:13:54.000 And then you get the afternoon lull.

00:13:56.000 And the afternoon lull usually goes from about 2 p.m.

00:13:59.000 to around 4, 4.30.

00:14:01.000 And back in the day, if there used to be any funny business, that's when you would really look forward is in the afternoon lull from about 2.30 to 2.2.30 to about 4, 4.30.

00:14:10.000 And then you get the after work rush.

00:14:12.000 And that would start predominantly 4.30 and then go all the way until the end of voting at 8 p.m.

00:14:18.000 And so that after work rush is what you were really looking for in areas to see whether or not you're going to have high turnout in those districts.

00:14:25.000 So in the city of Philadelphia, you know, it wasn't so much the early voting, because let's just face it, people in Philly are not early risers.

00:14:31.000 But if you were looking for a big Philly vote, you would be looking for that in the evening.

00:14:34.000 We didn't see that in 2016.

00:14:37.000 And so when we didn't see that, I said, Donald Trump's going to win Pennsylvania.

00:14:41.000 And if Donald Trump wins Pennsylvania, which at the time, I think we had 20 electoral college votes, or maybe even 21, that I said, if he wins Pennsylvania, he's going to be the president.

00:14:51.000 So I drove right over to 30th Street Station, because at the time he was up in New York, bought a train ticket, and I was like, bye.

00:14:59.000 And I just left Philly around like 7 p.m., and I made it to New York around 9.

00:15:02.000 And then even though that night...

00:15:05.000 We did not get an answer until, as everyone remembers, 3 in the morning there at the Midtown Hilton, and can of course say, I was in attendance, and as we remember the immortal words, sorry to keep you waiting, complicated business.

00:15:22.000 You know what's crazy about that?

00:15:24.000 Do you remember Donald Trump's son, Barron, was like a little kid at that night?

00:15:30.000 And now he's, like, this titan, like, 6'9 towering figure.

00:15:37.000 But it's like, wait, he was a little kid, and that doesn't feel like it was that long ago, but it kind of was.

00:15:43.000 So, Andrew's suggesting we should talk about this while we wait.

00:15:46.000 You've probably seen this story, Jack.

00:15:49.000 We've got this story in the New York Post.

00:15:50.000 This was just published yesterday.

00:15:53.000 Pennsylvania Dems rip the Harris campaign just weeks before the election.

00:15:57.000 They say, She is AWOL. They say they are being out-messaged.

00:16:01.000 They say it's really bad.

00:16:03.000 And I guess what I would say is, I feel like there has been a whole, there's like a cottage industry on both sides of the articles that are people pre-leaking so they can say that they were sounding the alarm before defeat.

00:16:17.000 Because I do think, I feel like I do see this from our side as well, but we're seeing a lot of it from the Democrats too.

00:16:22.000 Yeah, so I was on War Room the other day talking about this one, actually last night, I guess, with Natalie Winters.

00:16:28.000 And look, I mean, this is just a situation where you've got...

00:16:32.000 So it's actually kind of interesting because what they're claiming is that Kamala Harris isn't using the parallel...

00:16:38.000 She's created a parallel infrastructure to the existing Pennsylvania network of Democrats that has been in and existing on the ground, Philadelphia and the color counties of Montgomery, Delaware, Berks, Bucks.

00:16:51.000 And then even out to Lancaster, even quite potentially a little bit.

00:16:58.000 So what's interesting about it, though, is that, and they're saying like, oh, well, her campaign's not working with the structure.

00:17:03.000 Democrats had this exact same complaint when another candidate ran, and that candidate's name was Barack Obama.

00:17:10.000 And that was 2008.

00:17:11.000 He famously did this.

00:17:12.000 This was the Blackberry era.

00:17:14.000 Oh, he's using social media and he's revitalizing the system and he's changing the game.

00:17:20.000 And what was different, though, was that Barack Obama was a monumental candidate.

00:17:27.000 Barack Obama was a candidate that had a real movement behind him.

00:17:30.000 So he was a movement candidate.

00:17:32.000 Donald Trump was a movement candidate in 2016.

00:17:34.000 Kamala Harris is not a movement candidate.

00:17:36.000 When you're not a movement candidate, you don't have the ability to do that because she's a machine candidate. 0.99

00:17:41.000 You need the machine to put you over it.

00:17:43.000 The machine is the reason that she's so close right now in all of the polls.

00:17:48.000 And so when you see this and You know, you're looking at the New York Post has the article.

00:17:53.000 Politico, I think, had the article earlier with Holly Otterbein, who, by the way, Holly Otterbein, you know, I know that when, for folks who read Politico Playbook, you know, that's kind of like reading Pravda and his Vestia.

00:18:04.000 But, you know, Holly Otterbein is one of the few people over at Politico that actually does her job and has real sources.

00:18:10.000 And when she digs into stuff in the state of Pennsylvania, she really knows what she's doing and really knows who she's talking to.

00:18:16.000 And so you're seeing that same exact kind of phrasing come out.

00:18:19.000 But the difference being that while Barack Obama was running away with things in 2008, what you're now starting to see is the finger pointing.

00:18:28.000 And of course, the real thing that everyone's kind of dancing around here is, and I'm just double checking this with the New York Post article.

00:18:37.000 Yeah, it's not here.

00:18:38.000 The real question...

00:18:39.000 Okay, they may have a little bit.

00:18:41.000 But the real question is, where is Josh Shapiro in Pennsylvania?

00:18:47.000 Because shouldn't Josh Shapiro be the one who's actually running the campaign in Pennsylvania?

00:18:52.000 Maybe not on a day-to-day basis.

00:18:54.000 But you'd think that if Josh Shapiro really was...

00:19:00.000 Going to bat for her, that you'd be seeing him all over the place in Pennsylvania.

00:19:04.000 You'd see him at events with her in Pennsylvania.

00:19:06.000 This is the current governor, Josh Shapiro, who was, of course, humiliated by Kamala Harris when she refused to pick him for the VP pick, when she completely passed him over for this guy, Tim Walls, who's an absolute lightweight, an absolute nutjob.

00:19:21.000 And there's a reference to him, but I don't know...

00:19:25.000 I don't know if the article is really picking up on it as much as they should, that the issue in Pennsylvania isn't so much what the campaign's problems are, but what the campaign is not doing.

00:19:37.000 And by not linking him with Josh Shapiro, and this guy, by the way, all of Josh Shapiro's infrastructure is the local parties and the local unions in Pennsylvania.

00:19:46.000 So the fact that he's not out there whipping those union votes for her, the fact that Josh Shapiro is not going to bat for her.

00:19:52.000 Remember, two things, right?

00:19:53.000 There's two dynamics at play with that.

00:19:56.000 Number one, Josh Shapiro got passed over and humiliated and it was hilarious and I loved every second of it, certainly.

00:20:02.000 But number two, he's also got a political reason to want to do this as well because Josh Shapiro wants to run for president one day and he wants to run very soon.

00:20:10.000 And if Josh Shapiro sees Kamala Harris get elected, then that means she is going to be an incumbent and therefore she would be running for reelection, which means he would have to wait another eight years until 2032 before he could run for president, which would be past the time that he was a governor.

00:20:27.000 Versus running for president while he's still a governor, which he could do because if Donald Trump wins, then Donald Trump is term limited to only one more term.

00:20:38.000 Josh Shapiro could then run as the sitting governor, run for president in 2028.

00:20:43.000 And that is what Shapiro really wants.

00:20:46.000 And he knows this.

00:20:47.000 And so that's why he's getting his name out there.

00:20:49.000 But then he's, you know, fading back into the scenery and is more than willing to let Kamala Harris take the fall for anything that goes on, because then it gives him, in his mind, an open path directly to the White House.

00:21:05.000 But I don't know, Blake, you know, you're you're looking at it from outside of Pennsylvania.

00:21:09.000 Maybe I'm too biased on my take.

00:21:11.000 What do you get out of these articles?

00:21:13.000 Now I'm just thinking, is Josh Shapiro going to be able to run in four years?

00:21:17.000 I just feel like all the reasons they had for shutting him down this time could be even worse in four years.

00:21:24.000 The Democrats really are getting very beholden to this, you know, fanonist left-wing kind of lunacy anti-civilization thing.

00:21:35.000 And I do think you might see a state of things where they just say, you can't run a Zionist Jewish guy for president on the left.

00:21:42.000 It'll make too many people too angry.

00:21:45.000 Yes, exactly.

00:21:46.000 I was literally an IDF volunteer.

00:21:48.000 It's not just that he's Jewish, right?

00:21:50.000 It's that he actually volunteered for the IDF. He worked for the Israeli embassy at one point in Washington, D.C. and in their, I think it was like political affairs section, you know, basically doing PR type work.

00:22:04.000 And yes, I think he was doing a summer, it was sort of like one of these Aliyah type trips.

00:22:09.000 And then he was volunteering and his campaign was like very, or his office was very reluctant to put it out there, but he said, well, he volunteered.

00:22:17.000 And some of the volunteering involved public service.

00:22:21.000 And that public service may have taken place on a government facility.

00:22:27.000 They just kept moving it back for this, like, so you're an IDF volunteer.

00:22:30.000 Well, no, not exactly.

00:22:31.000 It was, you know, more of a ceremonial volunteership for the security of Israel.

00:22:37.000 And yeah, you were an IDF volunteer, Josh.

00:22:40.000 So it's, you know, he's really a fish out of water because, excuse me, excuse me, fish out of water, since we're talking Pennsylvania, that, which is totally the way that I actually And usually when I say, I talk on air, I try to like, I try to not say would-er, but you know, I don't know, what can I say?

00:22:57.000 If I'm talking to Pennsylvanians, it's would-er, would-er, would-er, baby.

00:23:00.000 And so he's really just part of this party that doesn't really exist anymore nationally for the Democrats, as you say, that yeah, he can get elected in a state like Pennsylvania, but you bring that to some of these areas like Michigan, Or Northern Virginia or parts of Minnesota.

00:23:17.000 And he's going to get run out of town.

00:23:18.000 And they absolutely know this.

00:23:21.000 And that's one of the main reasons.

00:23:23.000 And plus, he's got a lot of skeletons in his closet.

00:23:25.000 They're covering up the murder of this young girl, Ellen Greenberg.

00:23:27.000 You know, stabbed 20 times in the front and, you know, 10 times in the front, 10 times in the back.

00:23:31.000 And they say, you know, he's ruled it was a suicide.

00:23:33.000 Like, come on.

00:23:34.000 It's a complete joke.

00:23:36.000 Plus, because you have to think the way the Democrats think, he has a real problem on his hands in a primary because of him covering up The sexual harassment by Mike Vareb, his Secretary of Legislative Affairs, a former Republican, traitorous Republican, just like Al Schmidt, who is serving in Shapiro's cabinet, because this guy was conducting sexual harassment of a senior staffer, something that Shapiro knew about.

00:24:00.000 He lied about this.

00:24:01.000 He lied about not knowing about it.

00:24:02.000 But it went on for like 18 months, even after she reported it.

00:24:06.000 And Shapiro didn't want to blow up his relationship with this one You know, sort of nominal rhino Republican, Mike Barrett, who's an absolute drunk and a lush.

00:24:13.000 I used to see him get drunk and walk around Walmart at like, at like noon in the middle of the day down in Pennsylvania.

00:24:22.000 And, you know, he's got a lot of issues because he's been willing to just do whatever it takes to get to the top and probably didn't have to do all of those things, but he still did them.

00:24:33.000 And so, yeah, you know, to your question, will Shapiro be able to run in 28?

00:24:37.000 I don't know, but he certainly is going to make a play for it.

00:24:43.000 Whether or not he's able to run isn't the issue.

00:24:45.000 The issue is, does he have the incentive, just basic game theory, to really help Kamala all that much if he wants to run in 28?

00:24:53.000 And I would argue that he doesn't.

00:24:55.000 Man, if it's not him, who else?

00:24:58.000 Someone in our chat says they think they'll push Newsome, and I certainly imagine Newsome will push Newsome, but I struggle to see.

00:25:06.000 I feel like he'll be old news by then.

00:25:07.000 He won't be in office anymore.

00:25:09.000 I think he gets out of office by, I think he'd be out in spring of 26.

00:25:14.000 He'd be at eight years.

00:25:15.000 I think they're term limited in California.

00:25:17.000 Yeah, he'll be out.

00:25:18.000 But I mean, Gavin Newsom, he has an ability.

00:25:21.000 He knows how to make media.

00:25:22.000 He knows he's in tight with Hollywood.

00:25:24.000 He's in tight with Silicon Valley.

00:25:26.000 He'll do like some crypto thing or he'll do some Silicon Valley thing.

00:25:30.000 And I think there's plenty of ways for him to keep his name out there.

00:25:33.000 Or, you know, you'll see, by the way, what you'll see is if Trump doesn't end up winning, then Newsom will be like the thorn in his side.

00:25:40.000 And he'll be like announcing lawsuits against Donald Trump every time he wants to deport someone.

00:25:45.000 I think you could still see someone like Whitmer, I think.

00:25:48.000 I feel like Kamala, assuming in this reality that Kamala...

00:25:52.000 Whitmer's on such a VP track.

00:25:53.000 She's just such on a VP track, though.

00:25:55.000 I just, I don't see her as a nationwide candidate.

00:25:57.000 I really don't.

00:25:58.000 Yeah, well, I don't know.

00:26:00.000 I guess what I think with is, I think Kamala losing will somewhat damage the California brand a bit.

00:26:06.000 I don't...

00:26:08.000 True.

00:26:08.000 Yeah, like, if he's the defiant guy opposing Trump, there might be a bit of that.

00:26:12.000 But I've just always felt like Newsom...

00:26:14.000 Newsom is always in the news because he's always such a self-promoter.

00:26:17.000 I don't know that that many people really, really love Gavin Newsom.

00:26:21.000 I just feel like it could be someone we aren't really thinking of right now in four years.

00:26:24.000 I mean, there's a lot of people it could be.

00:26:27.000 I mean, look, people...

00:26:28.000 I always say people about this, or tell people about this, that Pete Buttigieg was like the mayor of South Bend, Indiana.

00:26:36.000 Like, Blake, could you name the mayor of South Bend, Indiana right now off the top of your head?

00:26:40.000 I can't even name a coach.

00:26:41.000 No, not even Blake Neff can do it.

00:26:42.000 Yeah, there you go.

00:26:43.000 So that guy went and became a, you know, just a national figure pretty much overnight based, again, on his own ambition, very much like Josh Shapiro.

00:26:53.000 And was able to, you know, politically prostitute himself out for enough Silicon Valley and Hollywood money that he was able to get out there and he He sort of rigged the Democrat primary in Iowa back in 2019, going into 2020.

00:27:09.000 And he wrote a real name for himself, and he goes from being the mayor of this town in Indiana to now being a national figure and someone who's directly in the cabinet.

00:27:18.000 So is there another Pete Buttigieg waiting in the wings?

00:27:21.000 And these guys, it's like they roll off the Obama factory.

00:27:25.000 You gotta talk this way, and you gotta do that thing where you push all the air out of your lungs when you talk.

00:27:34.000 And that's exactly what Josh Shapiro does, and I've seen Buttigieg do this as well.

00:27:38.000 And although I will say, though, I don't think that Buttigieg's time in office has done him any favors.

00:27:44.000 I mean, he's mostly associated with, like, the government failures of Biden.

00:27:47.000 I mean, from East Palestine to Hurricane Helene to Hurricane Milton, probably, like, 10 other things that I'm thinking of.

00:27:55.000 Like, this guy is just, or all the airplane issues.

00:27:58.000 Look at all the airplane issues that we've talked about here on ThoughtCrime over the time.

00:28:01.000 I think Buttigieg has actually been damaged just by being associated with the Obama administration, or excuse me, the Biden administration.

00:28:08.000 You're mentioning Buttigieg, but the other person who comes to mind that could influence this is Vivek.

00:28:14.000 Vivek is just a businessman who ran and talked well and used the debates and so on in Twitter to slingshot himself forward.

00:28:25.000 And he was at least talked about as a potential VP pick.

00:28:29.000 He's definitely talked about as a potential guy in Trump's cabinet or in the Senate and so on.

00:28:34.000 So I think you could, with him as a model, almost anyone could run for president for the Democrats.

00:28:40.000 You could just have, I feel like Mark Cuban wants to do that.

00:28:43.000 That's why he was doing a rally with Kamala today.

00:28:43.000 Mark Cuban, yeah.

00:28:46.000 He has his own big issues without getting into it.

00:28:48.000 Ah!

00:28:49.000 Alas!

00:28:50.000 We've got our two special guests here.

00:28:52.000 They're coming in.

00:28:53.000 We've got some special guests here joining us on ThoughtCrime.

00:28:57.000 He's putting in a zen!

00:28:58.000 Blake, who do we got?

00:28:59.000 What's up, everybody?

00:29:00.000 Don is putting in a zen.

00:29:02.000 We got Charlie Kirk here and next to you, Blake.

00:29:06.000 Welcome to ThoughtCrime, man.

00:29:07.000 Good to be here.

00:29:08.000 Blake, don't let Don know about the bucket.

00:29:11.000 What'd you say?

00:29:13.000 It's a secret.

00:29:14.000 No, don't worry about it, Charlie.

00:29:15.000 Don't worry about it.

00:29:15.000 It's a secret.

00:29:16.000 Yeah, because we've got Jack here.

00:29:19.000 So we do this show on Tuesday, Don.

00:29:21.000 Very nice.

00:29:22.000 We just came from a killer event out in Queen Creek, and we've had a full day here.

00:29:28.000 So Don, update us.

00:29:29.000 What are you hearing?

00:29:29.000 I'm seeing it on the ground.

00:29:30.000 Feels great on the ground.

00:29:33.000 Enthusiasm's insane.

00:29:36.000 Demographics that would have never otherwise been really vocal, just screaming in a positive way across airports.

00:29:42.000 Not like at a MAGA rally or an event that I'm doing.

00:29:44.000 Who's your number one community of selfies right now?

00:29:46.000 Right now?

00:29:47.000 African-American men.

00:29:48.000 If you take it per capita, maybe not overall, but African-American men right now are almost certainly number one per capita.

00:29:57.000 It's actually amazing.

00:29:59.000 It's been incredible.

00:30:00.000 That's wild.

00:30:01.000 So, Don, we're seeing that on the ground and in the data.

00:30:04.000 In fact, I bet we have some tape of them freaking out about this.

00:30:06.000 Don Lamont came out and has said that he keeps on hearing from black men that they're going to vote for Trump.

00:30:13.000 Yeah, well, I mean, you know, and it's funny.

00:30:15.000 You saw the Obama thing basically chastising black men. 0.97

00:30:18.000 Like, you know, basically, you're racist if you don't vote for a woman. 1.00

00:30:20.000 It's like, maybe she's just incompetent. 1.00

00:30:22.000 Maybe it has nothing to do with race.

00:30:24.000 Maybe her policies have failed her communities, and they failed America, and we're living through a cost-of-living crisis created by Harris Biden, and she jailed all sorts of people for ridiculous minor offenses, and now she's trying to pretend to run from that. 0.98

00:30:40.000 Maybe they just see through the BS, and I think they do.

00:30:44.000 I mean...

00:30:45.000 Stephen Smith from ESPN, not exactly a conservative guy.

00:30:49.000 No, not at all.

00:30:49.000 I mean, he went off on the Obama thing the other day.

00:30:52.000 I'm like, I agree with him 100%.

00:30:53.000 He gets it.

00:30:55.000 I think he's seeing these things.

00:30:56.000 And so I'm actually seeing it a lot more with women than I ever had before, but it's the men are very dominant. 0.79

00:31:03.000 Yeah, for sure. 1.00

00:31:04.000 The men are sick of this crap. 0.99

00:31:05.000 So, Blake, what is the data showing in this? 0.99

00:31:07.000 I mean, by the way, Blake meet Donna.

00:31:08.000 You gotta know each other.

00:31:09.000 I'm sorry.

00:31:11.000 Blake is the smartest person I know, and he has to live up to this.

00:31:15.000 So, Blake, what is the data showing?

00:31:16.000 Well, I mean, I was just over at Turning Point Action today and was asking them, you know, what's your read on the situation?

00:31:23.000 And obviously, we want to be upbeat.

00:31:24.000 We don't want to give in to Hopium either. 1.00

00:31:27.000 They just said, you know, the numbers are very strong, certainly here in Arizona, where Overall, there's more Republicans than Democrats in Arizona.

00:31:37.000 And so Democrats have had to beat us on turnout and independence to get the results they did.

00:31:41.000 But early vote in the last few cycles was about even or slightly favorable to Democrats.

00:31:46.000 Now we're way out in front.

00:31:49.000 And they say the turnout is better for our groups.

00:31:51.000 It's better in our areas.

00:31:53.000 Their turnout is down.

00:31:54.000 You're also seeing that in Georgia.

00:31:56.000 There was that image I shared with you earlier today where if you take the top third of the counties in Georgia in terms of Can we get that graphic, please?

00:32:04.000 I'll bring it up as soon as we can.

00:32:05.000 But, you know, it's overwhelming these red counties.

00:32:08.000 Yeah, they said the same thing.

00:32:09.000 I just read something on X. Yancey County in North Carolina, like one of the hardest—I was actually there on Monday—one of the hardest hit areas by the hurricane damage.

00:32:18.000 Like, record lines to vote.

00:32:21.000 On the first day of early voting. 0.95

00:32:23.000 These are people that lost their homes, and they saw the response, the disastrous, pathetic response from FEMA. They watched us send $175 million to Lebanon overnight for nothing.

00:32:33.000 They watched us give another $450 to Zelensky last night, and they got a $750 loan.

00:32:38.000 Those people, they're lining up in droves.

00:32:41.000 I was there.

00:32:42.000 I didn't even want to ask about it.

00:32:43.000 I was like, hey, you just lost your home.

00:32:45.000 You lost a loved one.

00:32:46.000 And they were like, Hey, you know, we're going to vote like we've never seen.

00:32:50.000 And I'm like, I don't want to ask.

00:32:51.000 I don't want to be that guy.

00:32:52.000 But, you know, these people understand what their government has done to them.

00:32:55.000 We're second-class citizens.

00:32:56.000 It's our own country.

00:32:57.000 So look at this, Don.

00:32:58.000 Let's play 99 on screen.

00:32:59.000 What else do you notice about this map?

00:33:00.000 This is the heat map of Georgia of counties that are outvoting versus 2020.

00:33:06.000 It's hard to tell on this specific because it's so distant.

00:33:08.000 But on the northern part is the darkest red, which means that they're outperforming.

00:33:13.000 Guess what?

00:33:15.000 That's where the flood also hit.

00:33:17.000 That was where that swept through.

00:33:20.000 It wasn't the bottom part of the state.

00:33:21.000 I don't think it's even relative to 2020.

00:33:23.000 This is just, if you take the top third of counties in Georgia in terms of early vote turnout so far, like which ones are having the highest turnout?

00:33:31.000 And yeah, as you say, it's in the flood area.

00:33:34.000 The key says 2020 margin, though.

00:33:35.000 No, the 2020 margin is then...

00:33:38.000 The color of them is how did they vote in 2020?

00:33:41.000 So you're saying these are the top third of the counties and then how did they vote?

00:33:45.000 So you get a read on who's turning out.

00:33:47.000 I see what you're saying.

00:33:47.000 And it's all these red counties.

00:33:48.000 And yeah, what's not in the top third is Fulton, DeKalb, Cobb, All of these counties.

00:33:54.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:33:55.000 Why would there be any enthusiasm for the Democrats there right now?

00:33:59.000 They'll get up their machine.

00:34:01.000 Don't celebrate.

00:34:02.000 The polling is great.

00:34:03.000 It doesn't matter, dude.

00:34:04.000 I think half the polling is designed to either demoralize you to see a stay-at-home or get you overconfident to see a stay-at-home.

00:34:10.000 Everyone's got a bank.

00:34:11.000 Everyone's got to run.

00:34:12.000 You're the third monkey getting on the ark and it's starting to rain.

00:34:15.000 Just get out there and do it and then bring all your friends.

00:34:20.000 I'm using that.

00:34:21.000 I think it's very descriptive.

00:34:24.000 It's like, that's where we are as a country.

00:34:26.000 Yeah, pretty much.

00:34:28.000 I was in North Carolina, like I said, earlier this week.

00:34:31.000 Reinforcements.

00:34:32.000 Thank you.

00:34:33.000 I was talking with Richard Petty, the famous NASCAR driver.

00:34:37.000 And he's like, at this point, you're either an American or you're a Democrat.

00:34:40.000 And he's right.

00:34:43.000 There's no policies that put Americans first.

00:34:45.000 There's no policies that We're good to go.

00:35:06.000 I totally agree, and I just want to reiterate the map we were looking at, which is the point you were making, Don.

00:35:14.000 If we could put that map up one more time.

00:35:15.000 The hottest counties are the ones colored.

00:35:17.000 Is that right, Blake?

00:35:18.000 So the colored ones are in the top third.

00:35:21.000 Got it.

00:35:21.000 Okay, got it.

00:35:21.000 So we don't see the rank or anything from that.

00:35:23.000 No, no, no.

00:35:23.000 But I'm just saying, though, that correlates to what you're saying, Don, that even the ones that were destroyed by the flood are rising up and voting, especially because of the lack of response right now.

00:35:32.000 Yeah, like I said, I was in Yancey County.

00:35:34.000 That was the one that was a similar thing.

00:35:35.000 It was the highest turnout in North Carolina.

00:35:37.000 The hardest hit, probably the hardest hit county there.

00:35:41.000 And the fire chief, we were there with the great people at Samaritan's Purse.

00:35:46.000 If you guys want to contribute to that thing, go check out samaritanspurse.org or.com.

00:35:50.000 They're amazing.

00:35:50.000 I mean, we're flying in on Black Hawk helicopters.

00:35:52.000 We're dropping off generators.

00:35:54.000 I didn't want to be there because I'm taking up space that could maybe be a generator.

00:35:58.000 And I just didn't want to be that guy.

00:36:00.000 But I didn't want to see it with my own eyes because I wanted to see what's true and what's not.

00:36:03.000 It's much worse than anything you actually saw on TV. Much more devastation.

00:36:07.000 I saw the worst of Mother Nature, but also the best of humanity.

00:36:11.000 And some of these people, they came up, when they saw me, they were like, oh, thank God, someone's just listening.

00:36:15.000 Someone actually cares.

00:36:16.000 And I was like, well, where's FEMA? We haven't seen them yet.

00:36:18.000 I'm asking the police chief.

00:36:19.000 These are not people that are biased.

00:36:21.000 I think some of the army reserves and stuff like that were helping.

00:36:25.000 But FEMA was missing.

00:36:28.000 And Samaritan's Purse was doing all this incredible work.

00:36:31.000 I mean, literally running missions.

00:36:32.000 Helicopters.

00:36:33.000 Multiple Black Hawk helicopters flying in that they have on their own.

00:36:36.000 This is their backyard.

00:36:37.000 They do this stuff around the world in disaster relief.

00:36:39.000 But it literally happened in their backyard in Boone, North Carolina.

00:36:43.000 And they were...

00:36:44.000 Absolutely.

00:36:44.000 I wish we could literally just eliminate FEMA, give them all the budget in the world to expand their operations center.

00:36:50.000 I mean, it looked like something, you know, that you'd imagine being the CIA. It was incredible.

00:36:55.000 And so, you know, that's real Americans doing real work, you know.

00:36:59.000 Whether it was delivering generators, whether it was helping some of the areas where people's homes were literally...

00:37:04.000 I saw homes where the water line was above their refrigerator.

00:37:07.000 They're shoveling out mud from their kitchens because it was three feet of mud in there and ripping out all...

00:37:13.000 I mean, this isn't days or weeks of work.

00:37:15.000 This is years, if ever, in terms of recovery.

00:37:19.000 And it was being done by ordinary citizens.

00:37:22.000 Volunteers from all over the country came in to help.

00:37:24.000 It was special.

00:37:25.000 And the government felt like it was totally absent.

00:37:27.000 Let's play cut 100 here and I want you to react to it.

00:37:31.000 You're talking to a lot of voters and I will just say that you texted me right around the Democratic convention and you said, I am talking to people, and Kamala Harris has a problem with black men.

00:37:43.000 Yeah, and I told the campaign I did not hear from them.

00:37:46.000 I mean, who am I for them to get back to me?

00:37:48.000 But there's a problem.

00:37:50.000 And look, I went from battleground state to battleground state.

00:37:53.000 When they invited me to the convention, I didn't just want to fly there.

00:37:56.000 I said, I'm going to go and talk to voters in battleground states.

00:37:59.000 And I did.

00:37:59.000 It was not curated.

00:38:00.000 I went up to people just doing man on the street.

00:38:03.000 Who are you going to vote for? 0.91

00:38:04.000 Black men.

00:38:05.000 And time after time after time, they said, I'm voting for Donald Trump.

00:38:09.000 Why?

00:38:09.000 Now, there are reasons why.

00:38:11.000 They said because most of the time they said, well, you know, for economic reasons, right?

00:38:15.000 Or because he gave me a stimulus check.

00:38:17.000 And I had to correct them over and over and tell them that that stimulus check came from a Democratic Congress and from Nancy Pelosi.

00:38:24.000 And that Donald Trump actually held the check up so that his name could be put on the check.

00:38:28.000 So they think they got the check directly from him.

00:38:31.000 Meanwhile, Joe Biden has given one or two stimulus checks as well, but they seem not to know and understand that.

00:38:37.000 You can vote for whoever you want to vote for, but the reasons that you're going to vote for them, I think that they should be accurate and factual and you should know why you're supporting someone.

00:38:46.000 Well, I didn't know Don Lamont was back on CNN. I didn't either, but I don't think a stimulus check matters when your cost of living goes up 25%, when cost of groceries are up 50%, when everything across the board that you need.

00:38:58.000 And the bias out there is so crazy.

00:39:00.000 I always talk about the Paul Krugman We have inflation under control, which is cost.

00:39:05.000 And I'm looking, I'm like, what are you talking about?

00:39:06.000 I have an economics major from Wharton.

00:39:08.000 I think I should probably have a decent understanding of that.

00:39:11.000 I don't see it with my own eyes.

00:39:12.000 And then I'm looking at the chart, and there's a little asterisk at the bottom.

00:39:15.000 Paul Krugman, right?

00:39:16.000 He won the Nobel Prize in economics.

00:39:18.000 So you'd think he'd know something about economics.

00:39:20.000 You'd be wrong, because the asterisk said, if you discount or don't include housing...

00:39:28.000 Transportation, food, and energy.

00:39:30.000 Oh, that's wonderful!

00:39:31.000 We have inflation totally under control if you take out literally everything that you need to exist.

00:39:38.000 Now, I know Democrats, I'm sure there's a couple things that they can buy that are a little bit cheaper that no other American would ever want or even imagine purchasing.

00:39:46.000 But food, energy, housing, and transportation.

00:39:50.000 If you take out all of that, everyone's doing great.

00:39:54.000 I mean, these people are sick, and they don't get it.

00:39:57.000 You heard me say the story earlier, Charlie, when we were talking to a group out here in Arizona.

00:40:00.000 It's like, right?

00:40:03.000 Because it hit me hard, and I'm not one of the guys on CNN that is pretty self-aware.

00:40:08.000 I'm the son of a billionaire from Manhattan.

00:40:08.000 I get it.

00:40:10.000 I'm really blessed.

00:40:11.000 I understand that.

00:40:12.000 I don't pretend to be something I'm not.

00:40:13.000 I took my kids on a fishing trip last summer and we came back.

00:40:17.000 We went to McDonald's.

00:40:18.000 It was a 10 year old, a 14 year old and me and it was 48 bucks. 0.99

00:40:22.000 And I was like, damn! 0.99

00:40:24.000 That's expensive. 1.00

00:40:25.000 If Donald Trump Jr.

00:40:26.000 has sticker shock at McDonald's, it's not going to change my habits.

00:40:28.000 I'm not virtue signaling and pretending it's whatever.

00:40:31.000 But if I have sticker shock at McDonald's, it's a problem.

00:40:34.000 It's a serious problem.

00:40:36.000 If it bothers me, what does it do to a family making 50 grand?

00:40:40.000 I make a good living.

00:40:41.000 I mean, obviously what you said.

00:40:43.000 When I go to the grocery store, I'm like, wow, $800 is...

00:40:45.000 It's a lot.

00:40:46.000 It's a lot.

00:40:48.000 I can afford it and super blessed, but I want to get Jack in on this.

00:40:51.000 Jack, I mean, the disconnect between what the media is saying and average voters is remarkable.

00:40:58.000 And what did you make of that Don Lamont clip?

00:41:00.000 Look, I mean, that Don Lamont thing is hilarious.

00:41:02.000 The fact that CNN is so desperate now that they're bringing back Don Lamont, that they brought back Brian Stelter as well because they can't apparently find anyone to shovel their crap in a sycophantic way as much as this is really kind of telling that nobody wants to go down with the ship, CNN. You know, and just talking about inflation, right?

00:41:23.000 So Tanya Tay, my wife, had a situation where, you know, she had this tweet where she was talking about the same thing, about going to the grocery store.

00:41:31.000 And, you know, she, and, you know, Tanya's got a, you know, an interesting, you know, people know her background.

00:41:36.000 She's from the Soviet Union, came to the U.S., from Eastern Europe.

00:41:39.000 But she still very much has that sort of sticker shock of like, why does food here cost so much?

00:41:45.000 And then when she goes to the grocery store and, you know, we've got two little boys and myself and, you know, we have family in and out all the time.

00:41:52.000 So she's like, wait, why is this food costing me so much?

00:41:56.000 And she runs, you know, she like keeps the books in the house. 1.00

00:41:59.000 So she will tell me that she knows that the food is going way, way, way up.

00:42:04.000 We're spending way more money than we ever used to.

00:42:07.000 And for her, it's like, yeah, like, you know, we do we do well, we do we do very fine.

00:42:11.000 But it's still to her just this massive sticker shock.

00:42:14.000 And like, I always joke that lately, it's like I walk out the house, like I walk out the door with the family and I spend $100 before I get to the car these days, I swear.

00:42:22.000 Well, but also, you bring out Don Lamont to talk about, like, you know, I don't know, not exactly representative.

00:42:27.000 Like, I think Antonio Brown has a much better feel of what's going on with, like, African-American men, to explain it. 0.60

00:42:33.000 I mean, it's sort of funny watching, you know, him, all the things that he's doing out there right now, and he's having that real conversation.

00:42:39.000 Like, you know, Hampton's Don Lamont is probably not the best representative of it.

00:42:42.000 Like, it's, you know, it's that pandering.

00:42:46.000 They really don't understand because they're incapable of, Of either putting themselves in those shoes.

00:42:51.000 They really look down.

00:42:53.000 It's a reliable voter, but otherwise they wouldn't be caught dead hanging out with some of these ordinary Americans.

00:42:58.000 I think that was sort of what surprised the whole world about Trump.

00:43:02.000 He doesn't pretend to be something he's not, but he was still relatable to people and he understood their problems because he grew up on construction sites and he understood those workers.

00:43:09.000 He listens to them.

00:43:10.000 There's a difference.

00:43:11.000 The Democrats don't have any of that.

00:43:14.000 I remember a couple weeks ago with the Tim Walz thing.

00:43:18.000 Maga's really afraid of his masculinity.

00:43:20.000 I'm looking at this guy.

00:43:21.000 I'm like, I don't know, dude.

00:43:22.000 I haven't seen a wrist so limp in a long time.

00:43:25.000 And I grew up in New York City.

00:43:26.000 I don't know.

00:43:27.000 I'm just not intimidated.

00:43:29.000 No, no, no.

00:43:29.000 He's a big gun guy.

00:43:30.000 I watched him the other day take 45 seconds to load a shotgun.

00:43:34.000 I'm like, I'll do the video this weekend if I ever make it home.

00:43:36.000 I'm on the road too much.

00:43:38.000 You know, you can blindfold me, hand me three shotgun shells, I will load a shotgun in four seconds.

00:43:42.000 Like, you know, it's not that hard, but, you know, that's the left's idea of masculinity.

00:43:46.000 Was it an over-under or no?

00:43:47.000 It was not an over-under.

00:43:48.000 No, it was an auto-loader, but that's just, it's easier, Frank.

00:43:50.000 No, that's what I'm asking.

00:43:52.000 It's like, you drop a shell in, you drop the slide, you put two in the bottom.

00:43:55.000 Like, it's not that hard.

00:43:58.000 He's a great trap shooter.

00:43:59.000 If you're a competitive trap shooter, you're probably also not shooting a flat grip gun.

00:44:03.000 Minor details.

00:44:04.000 You can do it.

00:44:05.000 I will occasionally.

00:44:06.000 So they try to catch these sound bites, but then anyone who actually is in the know, anyone who actually does this stuff, it's laughable.

00:44:13.000 They went on a three and a half hour pheasant hunt.

00:44:15.000 They shot at one bird and didn't kill any because they probably did that on purpose because they couldn't actually kill.

00:44:20.000 They just want to appear like they're hunters, but they wouldn't actually do something.

00:44:24.000 You know, it's all a big lie, and the reality is the more they push that and then try to show the people, like, anyone who's real actually sees it, and you realize it's a big, deep fake.

00:44:36.000 Let's play another piece of tape here, and let's play Cut 18.

00:44:40.000 It is Debbie Dingle.

00:44:42.000 Play Cut 18.

00:44:43.000 You just heard Donald Trump making his appeal to black men quite explicit.

00:44:48.000 Your friend, Congresswoman Debbie Dingell, who you campaigned with in Michigan, says that the message she's hearing from black men is, quote, Democrats take us for granted.

00:44:58.000 Donald Trump talks to us directly.

00:45:01.000 Are you concerned about black men voting for Trump or staying home?

00:45:08.000 Well, thank you very much for having me.

00:45:10.000 Yes, I am concerned. 0.90

00:45:11.000 about black men staying home or voting for Trump. 0.86

00:45:16.000 We're seeing more and more evidence of this stuff.

00:45:19.000 Like I said, you know, I do this a lot, right?

00:45:22.000 I've been on the road for almost, you know, basically at least a few days a week for the last three months and almost every day for the last, you know, two months.

00:45:30.000 And it's, you know, it's not like these are people that go to a MAGA rally and they're conservative, you know, black men.

00:45:36.000 These are people that see me at an airport and are like, I got to take a selfie with you.

00:45:39.000 Keep doing what you're doing.

00:45:40.000 I love you guys.

00:45:41.000 We were totally wrong.

00:45:43.000 You know, it's almost an acknowledgement sometimes that, you know, hey, you know, we bought into the BS, we bought into the lies, and we were wrong.

00:45:50.000 And now we see it with our own eyes, and we're not letting that happen anymore.

00:45:54.000 So, you know, it's not like it's just, you know, I'm wheeling it into existence.

00:45:58.000 Like, I see it.

00:45:58.000 People are commenting, like, wow, that's strange.

00:46:00.000 Like, literally, you haven't walked by an African American man in an airport that didn't take a selfie with you all day.

00:46:05.000 And I've been through three airports that day kind of thing.

00:46:08.000 You know, it's not like, you know, some sort of bias that I'm making up in my head.

00:46:12.000 It's like very palpable that it's different.

00:46:14.000 It's changed.

00:46:15.000 And that's before we even start talking about, like, Hispanics who are like... 0.99

00:46:18.000 I know.

00:46:19.000 You know, I mean, you know, they're as MAGA as it gets right now.

00:46:22.000 All right, Don.

00:46:23.000 So we have 15 minutes remaining.

00:46:24.000 On the show, we do non-political thought crime topics, too.

00:46:27.000 Okay.

00:46:28.000 Now, it is an election season, so the real thought crime stuff we're not going to get into.

00:46:31.000 Instead, we're going to go a controversy that I was involved in this last weekend.

00:46:34.000 Oh, all right.

00:46:35.000 And I want your take.

00:46:36.000 Post a photo, guys!

00:46:37.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:46:38.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:46:39.000 Actually, no, don't let him pre-defend himself.

00:46:42.000 Hold on, hold on.

00:46:43.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:46:44.000 Pose the photo.

00:46:45.000 Put up the photo.

00:46:46.000 Put up the photo.

00:46:46.000 I haven't even seen this.

00:46:47.000 Let him gaze upon it.

00:46:48.000 Put it up.

00:46:49.000 Put it up.

00:46:50.000 There we go.

00:46:50.000 Zoom in your hands. Zoom in your hands. Zoom in your hands. Zoom in your hands. Zoom in your hands.

00:46:52.000 Zoom in your hands.

00:46:53.000 Context matters here, guys.

00:46:55.000 No, no context should be allowed.

00:46:56.000 He is at an Oregon Ducks game, and if you zoom in there, if you gaze at his, at what would be his left ear at the right end of the photo, he has an ear plug within his ear.

00:47:08.000 An ear plug?

00:47:09.000 To conceal himself from the true authentic sense of the truth.

00:47:12.000 I have a very simple question for Don.

00:47:14.000 Do you ever wear ear protection when you shoot?

00:47:17.000 When I shoot, yes.

00:47:19.000 Okay, well it's the same decibel.

00:47:20.000 You have to do it when you shoot.

00:47:22.000 It's the same decibel level.

00:47:26.000 It's 127 decibels.

00:47:29.000 I have, like, I have taken, like, my daughter to, like, one of these concerts when we're sitting in front row.

00:47:33.000 At a concert or something where it's just so loud, I'm like, and I hate the music.

00:47:38.000 I will.

00:47:38.000 I have done that.

00:47:39.000 But at a football game.

00:47:41.000 No, it was 100.

00:47:42.000 Charlie, this is not a Taylor Swift concert.

00:47:48.000 This is not a normal stadium, guys.

00:47:50.000 Charlie, are you a Democrat?

00:47:52.000 Have you been eating a lot of soy?

00:47:54.000 Uh...

00:47:56.000 There's some things you rather just lose your hearing for.

00:47:58.000 It's worth it.

00:47:59.000 You gotta eat the man card.

00:48:01.000 It's just worth it.

00:48:01.000 It's loud.

00:48:02.000 It's like a gunshot.

00:48:03.000 I'm so scared.

00:48:04.000 It's 127 decibels, which is louder than a music concert.

00:48:08.000 It's not a normal stadium.

00:48:10.000 Were the other people wearing?

00:48:11.000 Many others, like three.

00:48:15.000 I have my hearing today, and they don't.

00:48:16.000 Did Don Jr.

00:48:17.000 just say that he went to the Taylor Swift concert?

00:48:19.000 No, I did not say that.

00:48:20.000 No, no, no.

00:48:21.000 Back in New York, he was going to Jingle Ball or something like that at Madison Square Garden before I'd get killed, although I think that's changing now, too.

00:48:29.000 By the way, that's the truth.

00:48:30.000 When I went up to New York a bunch...

00:48:32.000 I basically avoid it like the plague.

00:48:34.000 I've been like a political refugee from New York, from the People's Republic of New York down to Florida.

00:48:38.000 But I went up a bunch with my father with some of the nonsense trials, and I was our sort of opening and closing witness on some of the nonsense that looks pretty good right now in terms of getting overturned, but you still got to deal with it.

00:48:48.000 But I'd be walking down the streets and same thing.

00:48:51.000 You know, garbage men, these blue-collar workers, like, just running out of their trucks taking selfies because, like, they see what's going on in those cities.

00:48:58.000 I see women that, you know, I worked with the professional women lawyers that commute from some of the suburbs or whatever. 0.97

00:49:04.000 Now they do it in groups because they literally fear for their safety going by themselves into New York City train stations.

00:49:11.000 I mean, when I was, you know...

00:49:13.000 In the early 2000s when I was a little bit wilder and a little, you know, whatever, you know, having fun in my early 20s, you know, going out in New York City.

00:49:19.000 We'd go out until 4 o'clock in the morning and take a subway home because it was like, obviously, it was fine.

00:49:23.000 I have three close friends who live in New York City and they're three for three and getting mugged in the Biden years.

00:49:28.000 Yeah, I have a friend.

00:49:30.000 Who their best friend was one of the people pushed in front of a train by one of these lunatics that they just let out. 0.59

00:49:35.000 It's real. 0.94

00:49:36.000 The crime is insane.

00:49:38.000 These areas that were once safe are no longer safe.

00:49:41.000 Then you have the government housing.

00:49:43.000 I know guys that own hotels in New York City that are making bank, not because the hotels are overperforming, but because the government is paying them to house migrants in luxury hotels in New York City. 0.52

00:49:52.000 It's part of the conceit they do, because it's hard to get a homeless shelter approved.

00:49:55.000 A hotel.

00:49:56.000 People totally put up a hotel.

00:49:57.000 58th Street, which would be one of the more luxurious streets anywhere in Manhattan.

00:50:00.000 It's literally just housing migrants right now.

00:50:02.000 And that's money that could be going to North Carolina.

00:50:06.000 If FEMA spends almost a billion dollars housing migrants, that's not a federal emergency.

00:50:10.000 That's...

00:50:11.000 Intentional.

00:50:12.000 They chose to do that.

00:50:13.000 But when North Carolina has a flood, people lose their homes, their lives.

00:50:17.000 Georgia.

00:50:18.000 Sorry, we don't have any money left for you.

00:50:20.000 We can't really spend it.

00:50:23.000 We've got to make sure we're taking care of the migrants that we brought in here who are illegal and probably in many cases don't add much value. 1.00

00:50:28.000 And there'll be reliable Democrat voters, but there'll be a drain on the coffers forever.

00:50:32.000 Should FEMA supply migrants with earplugs in case they go to sport? 1.00

00:50:37.000 I'm sure they supply them with anything that they want.

00:50:40.000 They will never let me live this time.

00:50:42.000 No, you're done.

00:50:43.000 That's it.

00:50:45.000 I'm holding them to the stand of my way.

00:50:47.000 I'm going to bring you to an Oregon game, Jack.

00:50:49.000 I'll have headphones, and I'll have earplugs, and you won't.

00:50:51.000 I'm going to stare at you the whole time.

00:50:52.000 Okay, Jack, can you hear me?

00:50:53.000 Charlie, come to the...

00:50:54.000 I'm going to the Penn State-Ohio State game, Charlie.

00:50:57.000 I've been through this.

00:50:57.000 You should come.

00:50:58.000 Beaver Stadium is built into the earth like a crater.

00:51:00.000 It's the loudest stadium in the country.

00:51:01.000 Come on out.

00:51:02.000 Come on out.

00:51:04.000 I don't know.

00:51:05.000 Wait, is it true once you lose your hearing, you can't get it back?

00:51:07.000 There is truth to that.

00:51:08.000 Yeah, I mean, like I said, you know, if you're going shooting, where are you hearing protection?

00:51:11.000 Because as a kid, even just shooting.22s and stuff like that, the volume, like...

00:51:15.000 It's in and out with me.

00:51:16.000 I don't have the full tinnitus, but I can have weeks of just constant ringing in my ear.

00:51:20.000 You're not going to get that from one football game once a year, Charlie.

00:51:22.000 Relax.

00:51:23.000 I might get it from having it multiple times a week.

00:51:23.000 Calm down, okay?

00:51:27.000 It's a little different.

00:51:28.000 Wow.

00:51:31.000 We're going to have to put tampons in Charlie's bathroom, too. 0.99

00:51:33.000 We're going to get Tim Walsh to install tampons in the boys' bathroom over at Turning Point.

00:51:37.000 Earplugs and tampons are not the same thing.

00:51:41.000 Tampon Chuck.

00:51:41.000 I mean, they're sold in the same aisle, Charlie.

00:51:45.000 Anyway, the internet thought, I shouldn't have wore earplugs.

00:51:48.000 You guys agree.

00:51:49.000 The facts are the facts.

00:51:50.000 You guys all want to put earplugs in.

00:51:51.000 Listen, I appreciate your resolve.

00:51:53.000 You're sticking to it.

00:51:54.000 I know I'm right.

00:51:55.000 At least you're sticking to your gut.

00:51:56.000 Again, I just looked it up.

00:51:56.000 The facts are right.

00:51:57.000 Did your wife wear earplugs? 0.99

00:51:58.000 Of course.

00:51:59.000 Obviously.

00:51:59.000 I didn't see earplugs in that picture.

00:52:00.000 Because the hair is blocking.

00:52:02.000 Autzen Stadium gets to 127 decibels.

00:52:06.000 127 decibels.

00:52:07.000 I just want to make sure everyone is clear because I have to be able to defend myself uninterrupted.

00:52:11.000 Just so we are clear, 127 decibels is equivalent of sitting next to an ambulance siren for three hours.

00:52:18.000 I've heard sirens before and I never need it.

00:52:18.000 Yeah, but it's not a hundred.

00:52:21.000 It'll be like one big touchdown play.

00:52:23.000 You can see other ears in the year.

00:52:25.000 Okay, just so good.

00:52:26.000 Other ears don't have new plugs in them.

00:52:28.000 Biggest game of the year?

00:52:29.000 It's October.

00:52:30.000 It's not the biggest game of the year.

00:52:30.000 So far, jet planes taking off.

00:52:32.000 It's like game three?

00:52:33.000 Like, relax, Charlie. 1.00

00:52:34.000 Fuck. 1.00

00:52:35.000 Jackhammers, ambulances, and it's just shy of... 1.00

00:52:38.000 It says, exposure to noise levels greater than 140 decibels can permanently damage hearing.

00:52:43.000 That's a higher number than what you were saying.

00:52:45.000 Okay, but sitting next to 127 is not...

00:52:47.000 But you said 127, which is lower than...

00:52:50.000 It's not going to cause permanent damage, according to the AI overview that Google gives me.

00:52:55.000 The AI is never wrong.

00:52:56.000 I rested my case.

00:52:57.000 What's the next thought?

00:52:58.000 Crime?

00:52:59.000 I guess we have to get out of here pretty soon.

00:53:00.000 We could talk about the Michigan DEI thing if we want, just because the quotes from that are amazing.

00:53:06.000 Oh, I saw that.

00:53:07.000 That was crazy.

00:53:08.000 Go ahead, Blake.

00:53:08.000 Navigate us through it.

00:53:09.000 I just wanted the take on this because it's so funny.

00:53:11.000 Let me bring it up here.

00:53:13.000 It just shows the vibe shift, too, of the overall thing.

00:53:16.000 Black men voting Trump is a vibe shift. 0.74

00:53:18.000 So the New York Times...

00:53:19.000 You know, with two, three weeks to go before an election, they send a reporter to the University of Michigan, and it's about, you know, a lot of schools are scaling back on their DEI stuff, and whatever you want to say about the University of Michigan, they also have a loud stadium, they're not as into...

00:53:36.000 They are not backing off on the DEI juggernaut.

00:53:40.000 The number of employees who work in jobs that have diversity, equity, or inclusion in their job titles...

00:53:40.000 So let's see.

00:53:48.000 Over the past year or so has gone up 70% and it is now 241 people.

00:53:56.000 Well, if I remember correctly, the title of the article...

00:53:58.000 Pull up the title.

00:53:59.000 It may be a different article, but it was something basically like the University of Michigan...

00:54:04.000 Doubles down on DEI and it's failing.

00:54:07.000 And it's like when the answer is in the title of the article, it's like they double down and it's not working.

00:54:12.000 I was like, ah, it's almost shocking.

00:54:14.000 It's almost like maybe there's something other than that.

00:54:17.000 Hillary Rodham Clinton.

00:54:18.000 The same thing.

00:54:19.000 Where it was the whole plot.

00:54:19.000 Yeah.

00:54:21.000 The answer is the title.

00:54:22.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:54:23.000 They double down and it's failing.

00:54:24.000 Like, huh?

00:54:25.000 What do you do about that then?

00:54:27.000 That's right.

00:54:28.000 You triple down?

00:54:28.000 Because the whole premise of it's insane.

00:54:31.000 But that's not going to stop academia.

00:54:33.000 But what I also love with this is it says, you know, it's supposed to be, it was going to solve all of their problems.

00:54:38.000 But it says, in a survey released in late 22, students and faculty members reported a less positive campus climate than the program start and less of a sense of belonging.

00:54:49.000 Students were less likely to interact with people of a different race or religion or those with different politics.

00:54:56.000 Michigan's DEI efforts have created a powerful conceptual framework for student and faculty grievances and a formidable bureaucratic mechanism to pursue them.

00:55:07.000 Every day, campus complaints and academic disagreements, professors and students told me, were now cast as crises of inclusion and harm, each demanding further administrative intervention or expansion.

00:55:20.000 Like, what's amazing to me is, I know we always drag the New York Times, but what is very true is the New York Times it is America's most famous newspaper the There's a reason, you know, even your dad talks to them all the time.

00:55:32.000 They are the establishment newspaper, and they have the ability more so than any other publication to just remake the national conversation.

00:55:41.000 You know, like, conservatives, you know, complained about porn for ages, and then when Nick Kristoff did one op-ed going after MindGeek, suddenly, like, you started getting laws passed against it.

00:55:51.000 And what you have here is the New York Times is saying, yeah, you know, a lot of places are going back on DEI, but, you know, University of Michigan isn't.

00:55:58.000 And by the way, it's a huge disaster and is going horribly wrong.

00:56:01.000 And so what is the message that the New York Times is putting out when they write that?

00:56:07.000 And what are they kind of legitimizing for, you know, your New York Times centrist to think?

00:56:13.000 They're saying, okay, actually, 2020 was a bit much...

00:56:17.000 This whole nominating Kamala thing was a bit much.

00:56:20.000 Maybe we actually need to go back to the whole merit thing, or we're going to lose to the conservatives.

00:56:26.000 They're going to beat us really bad.

00:56:28.000 And I think that is the message they are communicating.

00:56:31.000 And it's very, very promising that they're sending that message not even a month before a presidential election.

00:56:38.000 Listen, I don't find them to be all that self-aware, but it's nice when they actually start doing it, because it's so obvious, but you need both sides to play along.

00:56:48.000 Academia is obviously so slanted that way that they'll keep pushing it, but the whole premise of it is designed to fail for anyone who has, let's call it, above single-digit IQ. Of course that's going to be a problem.

00:57:00.000 Of course it's going to create grievance, because the whole notion of it is about grievance.

00:57:04.000 And that doesn't work.

00:57:06.000 It's not going to work in the long run.

00:57:07.000 It's not going to promote efficiencies and it's not going to promote success.

00:57:09.000 And so, you know, this started all with Obama.

00:57:12.000 And I mean, they've created this divisiveness that I think we'd love to eliminate.

00:57:16.000 I mean, and I think we're seeing that because now it's gotten so bad.

00:57:20.000 It almost took it sort of like addiction, right?

00:57:22.000 Sometimes you got to hit rock bottom before you can ever come out of it.

00:57:25.000 And maybe we're at that point in so many of these things that are so asinine to us, but maybe not so obvious to others who, you know, don't follow it quite as intently or haven't been paying as much attention.

00:57:35.000 And, you know, I think we're winning these cultural wars now for the first time in a long time.

00:57:40.000 All right, guys, we got to get going to Arizona State University.

00:57:43.000 Don, thank you.

00:57:44.000 Don, plug. 0.72

00:57:45.000 Anything you want to plug?

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00:57:55.000 Try to get the message out there and keep fighting.

00:57:57.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - October 19, 2024

THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 59 — Special Don Jr. Edition

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