00:03:03.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:03:47.000Jack, what are you doing in Bedminster?
00:03:50.000Charlie, I'm over here because as we are taping this episode today, we are just a few hours away from the historic presidential screening of the film A Sound of Freedom with President Trump, Tim Ballard, Eduardo Verostigi, and a number of people involved with the film here present on the Bedminster property.
00:04:43.000Yeah, no, this was, I think, Charlie, you would agree of all the events that we've executed on, this was probably right up there with the top two most challenging.
00:04:53.000The other one being 2020 at this same venue, at this same venue during COVID.
00:04:59.000And we reluctantly returned to this venue thinking that maybe that was just a COVID era thing.
00:05:04.000But listen, there was some line issues that the Secret Service didn't help with, but I really don't want to focus on any of that.
00:05:23.000But the second biggest winner is Vivek Ramaswamy, who won basically the second choice vote in the straw poll, which I think surprised a lot of people.
00:05:36.000The electricity in the crowd, I mean, if you go through social media and you look at it, there's no other event in the conservative landscape like the events that Turning Point's able to pull off.
00:05:46.000I mean, the welcome for Trump, the welcome for Vivek, Bongino, Bannon, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Bobert, Gates, Holly, JD Vance, Senator Cruz.
00:05:57.000I mean, there's really nothing like it.
00:07:18.000And had DeSantis come and owned the moment, shook a lot of hands, rented a room outside, did a party, whatever he wanted to do, he would have owned the moment and it would have been a big win for him.
00:07:28.000Unfortunately, he missed that opportunity.
00:07:31.000So, Blake, you have a tendency to be contrarian or see things other people don't see.
00:07:35.000This is your second turning point event, your first turning point action event.
00:07:49.000I think the overall tone was really similar to it was actually pretty similar to Amfest, which I was at last December.
00:07:56.000And I think it was about what I expected.
00:07:59.000You could see the vibe of it is still Donald Trump's Republican Party.
00:08:04.000I mean, we had all of the candidates' faces out on pasted to a wall in the big area, and people could leave notes on them.
00:08:12.000And, you know, Trump is in the middle, and all of the notes on his are overwhelmingly positive.
00:08:17.000And then emanating out from that, you have all the other candidates' faces, and there's fans for each of them, but definitely, I think, more criticism than praise.
00:08:27.000And even with Vivek, Vivek did really well.
00:08:30.000But Vivek was really, what he was is he was cementing himself as like a bonus Trump, a Trump alternative, the guy that if Trump, you know, somehow goes to jail or is incapacitated, you know, he could be the guy who steps up in his place, or he could be a Trump vice presidential pick.
00:08:47.000And like, that's very much what he's running for, as opposed to like, I should unseat Trump or displace Trump in any way.
00:08:54.000And so then he comes out as the big, you know, winner besides Trump himself.
00:08:58.000But I think the funniest part of the aftermath for me, and you know, really a fitting symbolism, is that Ron DeSantis decides, I'm not going to go to ACTCON.
00:09:10.000I'm going to play to the national media.
00:09:12.000And part of the strategy was I'm going to do this big CNN interview on Monday night.
00:09:16.000And then he just ends up getting shoved out of the news cycle because the Jack Smith news with Trump completely replaces him and makes that a bigger deal instead of whatever DeSantis was going to say.
00:09:31.000No, and that, I mean, so we're kind of master clip watchers here, meaning that when there's clips of anything that's interesting between kind of our collective group chats, we kind of have a good pulse on it, right?
00:09:43.000If there's riots, if there's something happening in Ukraine, if there's a wacky thing said by a candidate, we kind of have our eyeballs on it.
00:09:51.000There was only one clip that was shared, and that was DeSantis on the woke military with Jake Tapper.
00:09:57.000Jack, I think the most newsworthy item, though, out of the Turning Point Action Conference that I think is still making waves is we asked the question, and I was responsible for the wording of the question.
00:10:09.000I made it intentionally explicit because we could have worded the question of, are you in favor of sending aid to Ukraine?
00:10:18.000Are you in favor of helping Ukraine against Russia?
00:10:22.000The way that we worded it, and I want to make sure I get it right, I believe, is, do you believe that U.S. should be involved at all in the war in Ukraine?
00:10:39.000Well, Charlie, this is something that actually stood out to me a lot.
00:10:42.000And I remember standing there in the room as you were reading out the numbers because what stood out to me so much, look, people thought that Trump was going to come in first place, and he did, and that wasn't a shock.
00:10:54.000But Trump, in a sense, actually came in second place in the Turning Point Straw Poll for Turning Point Action.
00:11:07.000Opposition to U.S. involvement in Ukraine actually pulled 10 points higher than support to Trump.
00:11:15.000And so that means that there may have been people that were maybe giving their vote to Vivek, maybe some of the DeSantis supporters, that this is actually something that aligns the base of the party.
00:11:27.000And certainly you can look at turning point action as a barometer for the base in the United States.
00:12:11.000You were looking for the big overall most important number.
00:12:16.000And I got to, I'll even ask you, Charlie, were you surprised to see the number that high?
00:12:22.000Yeah, and actually, we did a similar one at Amfest and last year where we asked the question of what matters more the U.S.-southern border or Ukraine.
00:12:32.000And I think the answer, I mean, it's such kind of a layup question.
00:12:35.000It's not even fairly composed because, of course, most people are going to say the southern border.
00:12:40.000I think 93% last year said southern border or 94%.
00:13:11.000And I think Mike Pence found that out on Friday when he was on stage with Tucker and then caught himself up in cross statements where Tucker asked him basically a similar question to the way you phrased it.
00:13:24.000He didn't say the border, but he talked about U.S. cities, the completely deplorable state of our cities, the graffiti, the violence spiraling out of control into the suburbs, into the rural areas.
00:13:35.000And Pence throws something out there where it sounded like he was saying, that's not my concern.
00:13:41.000Now, his campaign's trying to walk it out and say, well, no, I wasn't concerned about the tanks and we could do both, et cetera.
00:13:47.000But he was caught in that trap because it's a trap of his own making.
00:13:53.000And that's the point that Tucker was making.
00:13:55.000That's the point that you made later on Twitter, that so many of us later made on Twitter, that the broader truth here is that so many of these Republican politicians are campaigning like it's the 1980s, like we're going up against the Soviet Union, like this is an existential crisis to the United States, who controls the Donbass basin of eastern Ukraine and the Crimea Peninsula when you've got people actually here in the United States that I think, and by the way,
00:14:23.000this also came up in the Echelon Insights poll.
00:14:26.000And we were going back and forth with David Sachs and the guys that run Echelon because they pointed out that Ukraine is actually polling number 17 nationwide when it comes to priorities for 2024.
00:15:07.000And so I think it's in some ways a deceiving question because I think Jack, you and I would agree that it's a top concern of whether or not we stay involved in it.
00:15:16.000Andrew, also notable out of this, the straw poll results was the lack of confidence in the RNC.
00:15:21.00077% of people said they don't plan to donate to the RNC.
00:15:26.000Andrew, the RNC is now trying everything they can to try to get Donald Trump to debate in the upcoming debate in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
00:15:35.000Andrew, audience was not very supportive of the RNC in any way.
00:15:41.000No, I mean, actually, one of the things that hasn't gotten a lot of pub, Charlie, is one of the questions like, are you excited about the upcoming debates?
00:15:49.000This, the RNC primary debates used to be must-watch, absolute mandatory television time, appointment viewing.
00:15:58.000We didn't make a big deal about this, but it was only like 58% of the audience was excited about them.
00:16:04.000That's a that's barely a majority, right?
00:16:06.000Now, Trump, and listen, the RNC got shellacked on are you going to donate to them?
00:16:12.000I think it was 77% of people said they weren't going to donate.
00:16:16.000And I want to make one other comment about those issues list because I think it goes straight back to this constant establishment assault against Donald Trump.
00:16:27.000And that's the top issue, the top issue was still the southern border and immigration.
00:16:32.000If you remember when Trump came down the golden escalator, he said, listen, they're sending rapists, but they're not sending their best.
00:17:28.000But yeah, I mean, to your earlier point, the RNC is a big loser.
00:17:32.000You know, Ronna McDaniel, it appears to me that she may have won the battle to remain chair of the RNC, but she's losing the war.
00:17:42.000The RNC is, we're hearing rumors that they are massively bleeding capital, that they don't have enough money.
00:17:49.000And, you know, they've got a brand problem.
00:17:52.000And unless they do something really drastic, like, hey, a different chair, or they start working with groups like Turning Point Action to do ballot harvesting or something, I don't see them getting out of it, which is a really big problem into 2024.
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00:21:31.000Andrew, you're kind of our resident country music admirer or fan.
00:21:34.000So I'm going to kind of let you carry the water here.
00:21:36.000What's going on with great American patriot, good man, very talented artist Jason Aldean?
00:21:43.000Well, he's getting attacked by the likes of Cheryl Crowe and others.
00:21:49.000And then he had his music video, try that in a small town, taken down by CMT, it looks like.
00:21:55.000And so, you know, to me, I listen to it.
00:21:59.000I think most of our audience would listen to it.
00:22:01.000And I think we have some clips from the music video, and we'll find those in just a second.
00:22:06.000But these are, this is a really, that shouldn't be controversial.
00:22:10.000He's just saying, like almost every other country music song says that, hey, small town values are the best, and we don't let people get away with, you know, spitting the cops' faces and trashing the liquor store in the small town.
00:22:34.000You know, and Cheryl Crowe is saying, hey, we don't like violence in small towns either.
00:22:38.000It's like, no, that's not what he's saying.
00:22:39.000He's saying, if you want to sow discord, so chaos in our town, and you want to come and riot about some trumped-up, phony, baloney, racial, trans, whatever the thing is of the week in our town, we're not going to let it happen.
00:22:54.000So, anyways, I think a lot of people resonate with the lyrics.
00:23:25.000And by the way, Morgan Wallen and Jason Aldean are really good friends.
00:23:28.000And so, I think what's going to be interesting to see here is what happens to CMT and what happens to these woke country artists that are getting behind some of this stuff, like Christina Ballerini or whatever her name was, where she at the CMT Music Awards, where she performed with a bunch of drag, drag queens on stage.
00:23:46.000Everybody, you know, the woke CMT awards.
00:23:48.000So, it's pretty appalling, actually, that this seems to be gaining traction.
00:23:52.000Like, he was calling for lynching or something.
00:23:54.000I mean, I don't, when I listen to the song, I don't hear it at all.
00:23:58.000And he, and he also, uh, Jason Aldean went on social media to say that, in fact, this, these were all actual crime footage that's in the video.
00:24:38.000I think I got this shared from eight different people over the last night.
00:24:42.000If you can't read it, it's conservatives listening to their favorite band that hates them, which is if you're like me and listen to like deranged heavy metal music from the 80s, a very common experience.
00:24:53.000And then, you know, the poor, poor liberals who have encountered one song from an artist they don't like and they have died a tragic death.
00:25:00.000And then they will rise and they will try to burn down another city and probably a small town too now.
00:26:08.000Jack, I can't, are you really a country music fan?
00:26:11.000So I actually have a funny story about that as well because, Charlie, I think I'm more in your camp where I'm probably not going to be listening to country music if you give me the choice.
00:26:35.000But when Tanya came to the United States from the Soviet Union, for some reason, which I haven't quite gotten the story on this, she fell in love with country music.
00:26:47.000And so when we first started dating, she would always say that if I wanted to go out with her, I had to take her to country concerts.
00:26:54.000So I was like, well, I decided to bite the bullet.
00:26:59.000And yeah, I ended up seeing a bunch of actually a bunch of the same acts that later I would get to meet and see at America Fest when Tanya and I were just dating like a decade ago now.
00:27:11.000You know, that's actually pretty amazing, Jack, because I've read the same thing in like rural Africa, like Kenya, northern Kenya, like Tanzania, Nigeria, tons of those places, like old U.S. country is really popular.
00:27:27.000Like you can find videos of them at these African weddings, and they're all dancing very energetically to Johnny Cash, Willie Nelson, like older country classics like that.
00:27:37.000And it really, you know, it speaks to them.
00:28:01.000I like that in a lot of places, the American culture that travels best is like golden age, like 80s, Reagan America, like these people who love, you know, roller coasters and pro wrestling.
00:28:13.000And in a weird way, I guess it's like, you know, it's like the ones who like old anime shows.
00:28:17.000And so, yeah, then they love old country music shows, country music acts, too.
00:28:23.000I'd rather have that be traveling than whatever we're putting out today.
00:28:27.000Am I the only country music fan on this panel right now?
00:28:31.000I'm telling you, I grew up, I grew up with, yeah, I grew up from a ranching family in northern Nevada.
00:28:39.000Yeah, you guys are, you guys are all losing out, missing out.
00:28:42.000I grew up in a ranching family from northern Nevada.
00:28:44.000And I mean, I grew up with George Strait sitting on my dad's three-quarter ton 76 Chevy pickup truck sitting on the bench seat, driving down dirt roads, like bailing hay.
00:28:56.000So like, you know, you guys just don't get it yet.
00:29:42.000But here's this is what's interesting.
00:29:43.000So when we were at Young Women's Leadership Summit, there was a Washington Post reporter there.
00:29:48.000And this is going to start getting a lot more publicity.
00:29:51.000There was a Washington Post reporter there that wants to do a whole story on the divide in country music.
00:29:56.000So Nashville is a traditionally conservative town, but there is this growing divide between like the Marin Morris's and all of this and the Morgan Wallins and the Jason Aldines.
00:30:07.000Tim McGraw is apparently exceptionally liberal.
00:30:13.000And so there's this big rift erupting in a formerly very conservative town.
00:30:18.000Garth Brooks just took a bunch of heat for saying that we're going to serve Bud Light at his bar and all these a-holes that are trying to turn politicize the trans issue or whatever.
00:30:34.000But I mean, listen, if I'm a country, if I'm in the country music business, I would just say watch yourself because if you're going to go on the woke stuff, if you're going to go on the progressive agenda within country music, you are instantly parting ways with, I would say, 80% of your fan base.
00:31:28.000So the big news that hit this week, honestly, I'd say it's equally as big as the Jack Smith news, you could say, about, you know, where he might charge Trump.
00:31:36.000The Attorney General of Michigan, Dana Nessel, she has brought charges against 16 different, I would say, electors, prospective electors, whatever you want to say, 16 people in Michigan who signed their names to certification that they were valid electoral college votes for Donald Trump in 2020.
00:31:57.000They're being hit with eight felonies apiece.
00:31:59.000If you take the maximum penalty for each of the felonies brought against them, which is probably not going to happen, but it's fun to name it.
00:32:05.000It's up to 85 years in prison because they have all these fraud charges that are 14 years apiece maximum.
00:32:13.000And it's all because they claimed to be valid electors in 2020 during the dispute over whether Michigan's election was fair, whether there was fraud, whether the ballots were counted correctly, and all of that.
00:32:24.000And she's two and a half years after the fact gone and charged all the people involved who are all in their, one or two are in their 50s, but they're almost all in their 60s, 70s, or even their early 80s, and is charging them with this whole raft of fraud offenses to try to put them in prison for saying that they are valid electors.
00:32:42.000And, you know, the follow-on to this is the reason they were doing this is there's a widespread impression that, okay, if there's an election dispute between different slates of electors, at a minimum, both of those electoral slates need to be going through the process like they're valid electors.
00:33:00.000And under the Constitution plus federal law, it ordains that, you know, there's a set day in December where the electoral college meets.
00:33:08.000Each of them assembles in the state capitol of their state, casts their ballots, it goes to Congress, and then the vice president counts them.
00:33:16.000So the Trump campaign recruited all of these people in these contested states.
00:33:20.000Michigan is the one here, but it's also Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Arizona, and so on.
00:33:26.000And had them, you know, sign sheets saying, you know, we are, we believe we won this state.
00:34:52.000But Blake, do we know how they were selected and does that matter?
00:34:57.000There was coordination with the Trump campaign in terms of recruiting.
00:35:03.000I believe, I don't have it all exactly in front of me, but I believe they were recruited working with the Trump campaign, which was coordinating this.
00:35:10.000They did not do the exact same thing in each state because in some of them they were more legally gun-shy.
00:35:17.000So some of them did sign statements saying expressly, we're only the electors if the Trump campaign succeeds with its legal challenge.
00:35:25.000Some of them just did the same thing the Kennedy campaign did and said, we're the valid electors.
00:35:49.000It definitely does fit into the broader offensive.
00:35:52.000I don't think it's a coincidence that these charges are dropping two and a half years later in the exact same week where Jack Smith might be bringing charges related to January 6th.
00:36:03.000It'll be interesting to see whether any of this electoral vote stuff plays into any charges that Jack Smith might bring or if it's more of like tainting the overall media miasma, you know, pushing this whole narrative that Trump was trying to overthrow our democracy because they know,
00:36:19.000like, you know, even if they sequester the jury or do all those procedures they do that are supposed to ensure a fair trial, they know that if they can get a very strong media narrative of like Trump tried to overthrow democracy, Trump tried to do the very bad thing, Trump tried to do it, tried to do a coup d'etat, oh my God, that this will be what they need to do to actually get him convicted and then keep him for running for president, which is, of course, the real point of this.
00:36:50.000I mean, Andrew, I think you could, I can't help but think of just kind of the sweet woman or the men that are in their 70s or 80s that attend some of our rallies or events.
00:37:01.000We saw some that ACTCON, obviously, we had mostly a student audience.
00:37:04.000Don't you agree, Andrew, that like this is these are normal everyday people that they're trying to break.
00:37:10.000They're trying to destroy them and put them into a quasi-gulag.
00:37:14.000This is one of the most immoral things I've seen in quite some time.
00:37:21.000I mean, everybody saw that story of the J6 granny just getting thrown into jail or prison.
00:37:27.000I can't remember if she was jail or prison.
00:37:29.000But, you know, this does kind of reek of that.
00:37:32.000And to Blake's earlier point, I mean, two and a half years later, we heard some whispers that the Democrat Attorney General in Arizona is coming after or at least knocking on some doors there.
00:37:45.000We've heard it in Michigan and Nevada earlier.
00:37:48.000I think the key here is they have to establish that this was centrally organized in this vast right-wing conspiracy to overthrow the election or whatever.
00:38:46.000And now these people that pose no threat to the Republic, 80-year-old grannies in Michigan and Arizona, Nevada, wherever else, Georgia, they are now getting charged two and a half years later in, I believe, absolute coordination with the federal government, with the Department of Justice and Jack Smith, simply to establish, you know, it's like, who cares if the innocents get thrown under the bus?
00:39:13.000We've got a bigger goal here, and that's taking out Trump and removing him from the 2024 ballot.
00:39:17.000And I just want to throw it over to Jack here because Jack had a clip that went mega viral.
00:39:27.000You are predicting some pretty horrible stuff if they're able to successfully execute this strategy that looks like it's coming straight from Merrick Garland, DOJ, Jack Smith.
00:39:37.000Yeah, Andrew, what's going on here is that I've been following very closely the plan that Norm Eisen, now you might remember Norm Eisen from the Election Integrity Partnership.
00:39:48.000You remember him from the color revolutions that he was involved in with the State Department in Eastern Europe.
00:39:54.000The same guy has been laying out since all the way back in last November, working with these left-wing academic legal journals, stating essentially his plan is as thus.
00:40:08.000They are going to create a series of indictments, a sweeping series of indictments of supporters, people in Trump's inner circle, the alternate electors, which we know were being done and being looked at as a legal challenge.
00:40:25.000This was directly tied to the potential legal challenge on January 6th.
00:40:31.000This also, by the way, I'm just going to say it because, you know, I don't know why nobody else wants to admit this anymore.
00:40:38.000Mike Pence was not asked to overturn the election.
00:40:43.000Mike Pence was asked to send back the ballots to a specific set of states after a debate that was supposed to be held in the well of the Senate.
00:40:56.000Obviously, we know history didn't follow that course.
00:41:00.000But when Mike Pence says I was asked to overturn that election, that's a lie because that's not what he was asked.
00:41:08.000It was asked to have this debate on these legal challenges that people were playing out.
00:41:14.000And the establishment has now come in and decided to come to basically say, we're going to criminalize your ability to debate.
00:41:22.000We're going to criminalize your ability to dissent, to protest.
00:41:29.000Republicans will get worried about, you know, the wording of a press release while Democrats are running around locking up 80-year-olds in Michigan, Paw Paw, Michigan, Rose Rook, 81 years old of Paw Paw, Michigan.
00:41:42.000That's what Democrats are willing to do.
00:41:45.000And don't think for a second that they wouldn't go Romanoff family on every single one of us if they could, certainly the four of us on this podcast.
00:41:54.000And so when I said their plan is going forward with Norm Eisen, what do they want to do?
00:42:01.000He wants to file charges against President Trump for seditious conspiracy, using all of this together in unison as a seditious conspiracy against the United States.
00:42:13.000It triggers the 14th Amendment, the disqualification clause to the Constitution, and then try to strip Trump from the ballot in all 50 states.
00:42:23.000And I talked about this publicly on the main stage at Turning Point Action there in West Palm last week.
00:42:30.000I said it's quite simply, and I don't want this to happen.
00:42:36.000But if you strip Donald Trump from the ballot in 50 states or in any state, this will blow this country apart at the seams.
00:42:47.000They really are going to extra constitutional measures here.
00:42:50.000Now, Blake, if you were to predict the Jack Smith indictment on this one, do you think that alternate electors and then getting convicted of that?
00:43:00.000Does that what the spirit of the 14th Amendment would be?
00:43:04.000Legally, do you think that could potentially prevent Donald Trump from becoming president if he were to win?
00:43:10.000Well, the timing would be interesting because every other case against Trump has been elongated, so it'll be very close with the election itself.
00:43:20.000And anything Jack Smith brings, like he can, if Trump becomes president, he can pardon himself.
00:43:26.000It could be, we're just in such uncharted territory here.
00:43:30.000And I think the fact they're willing to even attempt this shows that essentially anything is on the table, that if they're willing to try these totally novel charges to basically say that President Trump launched an insurrection against the government while head of the government, that they'd be willing to try a lot of stunts with the federal judiciary to try to rush this through and then try to get a conviction and then try to disqualify him.
00:43:55.000And the thing is, is they only need him disqualified for like a short window of time to basically wreck everything.
00:44:02.000You might remember Senator Ted Stevens from Alaska where they sort of, I don't want to say like framed, but they railroaded him really aggressively on various criminal charges just long enough for him to lose a re-election race and get knocked out of office.
00:44:20.000And it turned out to all be a sham the entire time.
00:44:23.000And I think they could easily do this with Trump, where they get him on these insurrection charges and get him disqualified just long enough for, you know, then some appeals court or the Supreme Court will say, no, this is a wild abuse of prosecutorial power.
00:44:37.000But too late, the 2024 election's over.
00:44:40.000And now Biden or Kamala or heaven knows who is now the president of the United States after our 100% free and fair election in our democracy, as they like to call it.
00:44:52.000I just want to like talk about what Jack just said, because I think it bears repeating.
00:45:06.000I mean, you could indict a ham sandwich, right?
00:45:08.000Isn't that the famous expression with a grand jury?
00:45:12.000He's going to get indicted, but he, you know, will this spark, I mean, if you think January 6th is bad, will this spark something similar or even worse if they're able to successfully remove Donald Trump from the ballot?
00:45:36.000And, you know, but if you remove the leading opposition candidate from the ballot via a technical maneuver, an illegal maneuver, this could be devastating.
00:45:47.000I don't see how this ends in a good place.
00:45:49.000You know, Andrew, that is potentially what could be the most dangerous outcome of all of this.
00:45:57.000Because, look, Vivek talked about it on the debate stage in Iowa.
00:46:02.000He talked about it in West Palm at the turning point event.
00:46:08.000That when you tell people they're not allowed to dissent, when you tell people they're not allowed to protest, when you tell people you're not allowed to listen, then you tell people you're not even allowed to vote for your preferred candidate.
00:46:22.000This is what leads to people to logically conclude.
00:46:26.000And I'm not saying, again, I don't want this, but you're telling people that the ballot box is not the place to relieve the pressure.
00:46:34.000Well, what happens if people then start looking for other means to get involved in the political process than voting?
00:46:43.000Blake, walk us through this next topic.
00:47:40.000It's kind of bizarre that they actually decided to make this movie, let alone give it a huge budget and release it opposite a Chris Nolan movie.
00:48:25.000Look, this is the point of this is I don't see that many movies, but I will see both Oppenheimer and Barbie back to back when they come out, probably.
00:48:35.000Unless Barbie's really, truly, astonishingly off the charts bad, which it is, it probably will be actually.
00:48:44.000But assuming it is like tolerable enough that I can just like buy a thing of milk duds and like endure it, I will probably see it.
00:48:51.000And then I will contrast it with Oppenheimer.
00:48:52.000And they've had a lot of fun with this.
00:48:54.000We showed the joint poster for both of them just a second ago.
00:49:01.000It's rare that we've had these random summer blockbusters.
00:49:03.000And I think people are having a lot of fun that both of them are just their new movies to some extent.
00:49:09.000They're not like the 80th incarnation of the Marvel cinematic universe or some abominable reboot of Twilight or Harry Potter or whatever.
00:50:32.000You know, it's easy to make fun of it, but it's like, could a Barbie movie be anything else?
00:50:36.000Like a live-action Barbie movie where we're just going to take these big stars, pay them $100 million, shove them out in the middle of July.
00:50:44.000Like, a Barbie movie's got to be really stupid.
00:50:46.000And like, Ken is kind of stupid and kind of gay and all of that.
00:50:51.000Wait, speaking of gay, speaking of gay, Jack Pesobic.
00:51:28.000For people who don't know what we're talking about, it was because he said librarians.
00:51:35.000I mean, we'll need a whole show segment about what his biographer unearthed where he wrote this letter where Obama opted.
00:51:44.000Obama wrote a letter to his girlfriend saying that he opted for heterosexuality because he preferred the it was more challenging than a gay relationship.
00:51:53.000He considered gayness, but opted for the greater challenge of a heterosexual relationship.
00:51:59.000According to the guy who wrote a 1,000-page biography of a young Barack Obama, that is a letter that young Obama wrote.
00:52:09.000I don't know if anyone's seen the letter other than him, but it does allegedly exist, and it was put in a biography, and the guy didn't get sued for it.
00:53:29.000Yeah, Chris Nolan loves his timeline-bending movies, like Inception, Interstellar, Tenet.
00:53:35.000So it could be that Oppenheimer is going to have a plot twist where they're building the atomic bomb because Oppenheimer, through a time portal, saw the Barbie movie, or at least the Ken song that Ryan Gosling did, and he decided he had to destroy the planet.
00:54:20.000Yeah, and we've had these great story where I'll have to censor this a bit, but supposedly after we dropped the atomic bomb, Oppenheimer, you know, had this moment of realization.
00:54:30.000He's like, oh, no, it turns out Operation Gigabomb 10 million was not a tool of peace.
00:55:20.000The next topic is very fitting for the adventure we've been having here today.
00:55:24.000It's, I guess we'll call it the deep web reveal, though it's actually very shallow because it's a major news story right now, but who cares?
00:55:31.000So, TikTok, as we all know, needs to be destroyed.
00:57:24.000I thought an NPC was someone that you kill in Grand Theft Auto that's not part of the main.
00:57:30.000Well, that's like an American NPC where we just, you know, you have like random NPCs who you run over with cars.
00:57:37.000That's more, these people are more like Japanese role-playing game NPCs that you'd run into in like a Final Fantasy game or something, or a Zelda game.
00:57:48.000And they have their own exaggerated characteristics.
00:57:52.000But I think the bigger question here, Charlie, is having watched that video, was the Declaration of Independence a mistake?
00:58:57.000I don't know if we've really explained exactly what it is that we're playing at this point, especially since we're playing some shorter clips of it.
00:59:06.000So, Charlie, last week we went through when we were live together on the same stage, not with me in Bedminster, et cetera, that we talked about thin subs, financial subs, and financial submissives, and pay pigs.
00:59:22.000So, this is very close to OnlyFan style content.
00:59:27.000It's very similar to OnlyFan style content, only it's taken out the specifically graphic parts of it.
00:59:35.000And what they're doing is they're paying money to these girls to get them to perform certain actions, and in this case, preset reactions to different, what they're called, gifts or prizes that are being sent.
00:59:50.000Now, something that people need to understand is that to send them a gift or a prize, it's the same, not the same, but it's the same idea as sending a Rumble rant or a super chat or something like that in on a live stream.
01:00:36.000These thoughts, Charlie, they're not reporting their earnings to the IRS.
01:00:41.000So what you've got to do is reach out to them surreptitiously, find out if they're making their returns, and then you can go to the IRS and collect a bounty on the ethos.
01:00:52.000We can actually make money by taking them in to the feds.
01:00:58.000So wait, Jack, you're saying people need to go and expose thought crimes?
01:02:21.000I just enjoyed Charlie continuously getting educated by Jack and Blake.
01:02:27.000I think it's edifying for the entire audience.
01:02:30.000Please don't ever Google the things that we educate Charlie on.
01:02:33.000It's bad for your mental sanity and really your soul, but that's okay.
01:02:38.000It's important to understand where America is at and whether or not we should have lost the Revolutionary War, as Blake is suggesting, might have been a solution.
01:02:46.000All joking aside, I think, listen, here's the big takeaway from this week.
01:02:53.000That ACTCON was a massive success, that Trump and Vivek won everything this week, that DeSantis has some pivoting to do, that the DOJ is coming after us, and that Hollywood is still a deplorable, terrible mess.
01:03:34.000Like, if we would take an NPC video back and we would show it to George Washington, he would immediately have his army surrender.
01:03:44.000He would go back to his farm in Virginia.
01:03:46.000He would write a letter to the King of England apologizing, and then he would say that we need to not allow the steam engine to face any further development.
01:03:56.000We've got to stop the Industrial Revolution and its consequences in their tracks.
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