The Charlie Kirk Show - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 63 — Matt Gaetz’s Future? Jussie Smollett’s Jailbreak? War Fever with Russia?

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00:03:20.000 Who wants to take this first?

00:03:22.000 Lots of Attorney General news.

00:03:23.000 Who wants to break it down for our audience?

00:03:26.000 Blake, you go first.

00:03:27.000 Oh, man.

00:03:28.000 It's wild.

00:03:29.000 And we do have Tyler here.

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00:03:32.000 Man, so I guess, summary, in case anyone was under a rock today, you know, we warned people last week not every Trump pick was going to get through because he was doing what we wanted.

00:03:43.000 He was pursuing an aggressive strategy.

00:03:46.000 He was saying, like, you know, he was going for it all with all of his picks.

00:03:51.000 He was not making safe ones.

00:03:53.000 He wasn't worried about batting a thousand.

00:03:55.000 And so...

00:03:56.000 He nominated Matt Gaetz last week for Attorney General.

00:03:59.000 I think a lot of us were excited about that.

00:04:01.000 We thought this is a guy who will have the right energy for what we need at DOJ. But it was not to be.

00:04:07.000 He did pull back.

00:04:09.000 He withdrew his nomination for Attorney General.

00:04:12.000 It makes him, I believe, tied for the third shortest cabinet nomination in history.

00:04:20.000 There was one person who was nominated for Secretary of War more than 100 years ago who was nominated for one day.

00:04:27.000 I don't know the details on that, so I have to go look that up.

00:04:30.000 And then also Bernie Carrick was nominated the same number of days.

00:04:34.000 And then I believe he had to withdraw due to those Bush's pick for Homeland Security, and he had to withdraw.

00:04:40.000 And instead we got, I believe, Tom Ridge, which forced us to endure 20 years of Tom Ridge as a presidential nominee contender.

00:04:49.000 love.

00:04:50.000 But now we have to see.

00:04:52.000 He was my governor.

00:04:53.000 It was a whole thing.

00:04:55.000 Gruesome, ghastly.

00:04:56.000 So now we have to ask ourselves, who is the next, next AG of the United States?

00:05:03.000 That is the question.

00:05:04.000 Jack, why don't you break down your opinion on all of this?

00:05:07.000 Look, so my opinion on all of this.

00:05:10.000 I'll put it this way.

00:05:11.000 When Matt Gaetz's name came out, I said, wow.

00:05:15.000 Because even before that, right?

00:05:18.000 So even before that, we were all saying, so Donald Trump is one, we've got the majority, we've got the Senate, we've got the House, and people are all looking around saying, okay, what do we do now?

00:05:28.000 We've got this mandate.

00:05:29.000 And people were putting together their shortlists.

00:05:31.000 Obviously, in terms of the cabinet, probably the number one most important pick for the cabinet is the Attorney General.

00:05:37.000 There was no question.

00:05:38.000 And people were putting together their short lists.

00:05:40.000 People were putting together the who's who.

00:05:43.000 People were flying down to Mar-a-Lago.

00:05:45.000 Charlie, you and I were there.

00:05:47.000 And we saw people doing the interviews.

00:05:49.000 And Matt Cage's name was not on any of those lists.

00:05:52.000 This was a total out of right field surprise pick.

00:05:56.000 It was something that took DC by absolute storm.

00:05:59.000 It was something that took...

00:06:01.000 I think Trump world by absolute storm.

00:06:03.000 And you saw everybody line up behind it because we said, you know what? 0.87

00:06:06.000 This is the kind of guy who's a pit bull.

00:06:08.000 This is the kind of guy who absolutely can do the job, knows what needs to be done and has the guts to do so.

00:06:14.000 But I do think that there was that question in the back of all of our minds That voice in the back of our mind saying, wait a minute, guys, we have to live in reality.

00:06:25.000 And we know, look, okay, we've got a bunch of really, really good senators elected.

00:06:29.000 We flipped a lot of great seats.

00:06:31.000 But at the same time, 50 votes is a tall order in the United States Senate.

00:06:37.000 And a lot of us were thinking, is it possible to get him over that finish line?

00:06:42.000 And we knew that we could lose three, but as it turns out, it turned out, and I figured those three would be Alaska, Maine, and Utah, the Mitt Romney clone who just got elected in Utah.

00:06:54.000 But as it turns out, it was four, the magic number four.

00:06:58.000 We need it was three, but we ended up with four because Mitch McConnell was a hard no, which came out in Jonathan Swan and a bunch of people.

00:07:06.000 And Charlie, you had tweeted about this as well.

00:07:08.000 So the idea being that, you know, for people who have been in D.C. for a long time, for people who have been in the business or people who, by the way, have been in the MAGA movement for a long time, we know that things don't just magically appear for us.

00:07:20.000 You got to work for it.

00:07:20.000 You got to fight.

00:07:21.000 And MAGA does not take days off.

00:07:23.000 This movement does not take days off.

00:07:24.000 And so essentially it's like, okay, that's where we are, but we're in a much better position than we were beforehand because now we've already gone through the process.

00:07:35.000 Now we've already seen, you know, where the sleeping snakes are in In the field, and we can determine which way to go forward.

00:07:45.000 And by the way, I know for a fact, and Charlie, I know you know as well that these are all discussions and thoughts that President Trump himself and his team have had all along while looking at this.

00:07:56.000 Yeah, and so the question is, who's next?

00:07:57.000 And there's a lot of names being floated there.

00:07:59.000 I do want to say, though, that the Deputy Attorney General that has been nominated, Todd Blanche, is terrific.

00:08:06.000 This guy, when he represented Donald Trump personally, remember, in the civil trial, Todd Blanche left his very, very white shoe law firm, you could say.

00:08:18.000 Is that the right way to...

00:08:20.000 Were it white shoe law firm, Blake?

00:08:22.000 Is there some sort of saying there?

00:08:24.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:08:24.000 For like top law firms, that's kind of the slang term for it.

00:08:27.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:08:28.000 And he represented Donald Trump in that criminal trial and was amazing.

00:08:35.000 And he's a total fighter.

00:08:37.000 He lost a lot.

00:08:38.000 In fact, let me read this to you.

00:08:40.000 Blanche left the law firm that he was at just to be able to represent President Donald Trump.

00:08:46.000 He was a partner At Callowander, Wickersham, and Taft, which has 400 attorneys and five offices and does $600 million a year in revenue.

00:08:59.000 He left that because if you're to represent Donald Trump, you're not allowed to be at any of those law firms.

00:09:04.000 He doesn't care.

00:09:05.000 He said, I wanted to represent Donald Trump.

00:09:08.000 And so following the May 30th conviction on 34 felony accounts, Blanche stated that Trump's defense team obviously plans to appeal the verdict.

00:09:18.000 So he has demonstrated that he is loyal to the president.

00:09:20.000 And what he wants to do with the attorney general's office, we shall see.

00:09:25.000 But I think that's a very important name to consider.

00:09:28.000 And you've got to give, look, Matt Gaetz made this decision himself.

00:09:31.000 I know Matt very well, and I've kind of been seeing his name throughout this process.

00:09:36.000 And Matt was like, look, there's an immovable block of five or six senators.

00:09:39.000 I'm not going to have the president spend all of this political capital if we can't move these senators. 0.90

00:09:44.000 And I think he deserves a lot of credit for that.

00:09:46.000 Tyler, your reaction?

00:09:48.000 Yeah, I mean, I was a little bit, I was hoping that what we had discussed before was going to happen, where this would go, it would force a vote.

00:09:56.000 And for sure, I think this was going to be one of the first confirmation processes.

00:10:02.000 Usually, I think AG would probably be up there.

00:10:06.000 So I'm wondering if a little bit of strategy changed a little bit within Trump world and thinking that this may have impact on other confirmations.

00:10:17.000 And so maybe you never know what kind of horse trading is going on in the background with some of these things.

00:10:22.000 It's likely that there was some...

00:10:24.000 Significant horse trading going on, which is good for other cabinet appointments here.

00:10:31.000 And I'm sure that that's part of the process was like, hey, look, if you pull out now, figure it out, we'll sail some of these others through, which is good.

00:10:43.000 But at the same time, we just put up at Turning Point Action, Charlie, and you know this, and we're going to be going very hard on this, tpaction.com slash no excuse, which gives all of the voting records for every single one of the Republicans who voted to confirm all of which gives all of the voting records for every single one of

00:11:03.000 And so it's just good for the general public to know the more educated that the public is on these issues, on specifically which appointments that were approved by Republicans in your own home state are, That gives you the wherewithal to call them, to talk to them, to create a hubbub, to get on X and other places and talk a lot more about this because it is without reason to approve some of these, like Mayorkas, for example, to get on X and other places and talk a lot more about this because it is without reason to

00:11:38.000 Tyler, can you pull some of those up, by the way?

00:11:40.000 So what Tyler's talking about.

00:11:41.000 It's going to be one of the most ambitious grassroots efforts that we've ever done at Turning Point Action.

00:11:45.000 And it's not an election-focused one.

00:11:47.000 It's about confirmation.

00:11:49.000 Which, by the way, 501c4 exists to help do lobbying of officials.

00:11:53.000 And we are going to be directly lobbying senators from Idaho, senators from South Dakota, senators from Arkansas.

00:12:00.000 Senators from Mississippi, Senators from Kansas.

00:12:03.000 We are going to be involving the grassroots in holding these Senators accountable.

00:12:08.000 So Tyler, list off some of these votes.

00:12:11.000 They're quite remarkable.

00:12:12.000 Yeah, grassroots lobbying, Charlie, is completely within the wheelhouse of every 501c4.

00:12:18.000 And every 501c4 that we have on our side should be doing this work and reminding people of this.

00:12:24.000 So yeah, again, it's tpaction.com slash no excuse.

00:12:28.000 You can also find it.

00:12:29.000 We're going to be putting this on our cabinet website, which is tpaction.com slash cabinet, which you can track all the cabinet appointments.

00:12:37.000 And then also we have this new campaign that's coming out that we'll talk a lot more about, about getting all of Trump's mandate appointments through.

00:12:47.000 But again, you can go to tpaction.com slash no excuse.

00:12:50.000 And if we look, just...

00:12:52.000 For example, let's just take a look at some of these bad ones.

00:12:54.000 Merrick Garland had quite a few people that voted for it.

00:12:57.000 Murkowski, obviously, you know, the typical Murkowski-Collins, so we won't mention them because we'll just assume they voted for every bad person.

00:13:06.000 But Joni Ernst in Iowa, Chuck Grassley in Iowa, Jerry in Kansas, Mitch McConnell, obviously, who couldn't, you know, get through his press conference today.

00:13:17.000 Senator Bill Cassidy in Louisiana.

00:13:20.000 Tom Tillis in North Carolina.

00:13:22.000 James Langford in Oklahoma.

00:13:23.000 Oklahoma's arguably the deepest red state that we have in the country.

00:13:27.000 And James Langford was all about Merrick Garland.

00:13:31.000 Mike Rounds in South Dakota.

00:13:33.000 John Thune in South Dakota.

00:13:34.000 John Cornyn in Texas.

00:13:36.000 Mitt Romney, obviously.

00:13:38.000 Shelley Moore Capito in West Virginia.

00:13:41.000 Wisconsin Senator Ron Johnson.

00:13:43.000 I don't think we have a problem with Ron Johnson on any of the appointments, but he voted for that.

00:13:48.000 And then you look over at Mayorkas. 1.00

00:13:50.000 You had Dan Sullivan from Alaska voted for Mayorkas. 0.97

00:13:55.000 You had Shelley Moore Capito also again voted for Mayorkas. 0.99

00:14:02.000 I mean, there's just a lot, if you go through all this, a lot of people who are not very friendly to us in any kind of way and have done a pitiful job in their positions that have all voted.

00:14:15.000 So you can go tpaction.com slash no excuse to follow along and use that information.

00:14:20.000 We're going to be actually organizing email and call systems that come out of that so we can make it easy to say, hey, All of you voted for this person.

00:14:30.000 Why won't you vote for President Trump's appointment?

00:14:33.000 So, I mean, this is perplexing to me.

00:14:35.000 And Jack, I want you to build this out.

00:14:37.000 Why is it that so many of these red state senators are willing to vote for Joe Biden's nominees, but they drag their feet for Donald Trump's nominees?

00:14:47.000 Well, it really is amazing, Charlie.

00:14:49.000 And you've got to go into the primary process for all this because, look, here's what the dirty little secret is.

00:14:57.000 When we say rhinos, when we talk about a rhino, you have to understand the psychology of a rhino and what the makeup of a rhino is.

00:15:05.000 So a rhino is an embarrassed Democrat.

00:15:09.000 And a lot of the Republican senators who currently sit in the Republican caucus, let's not name names right now, but let's...

00:15:17.000 Let's just say that I know them very, very well.

00:15:19.000 A lot of them, and you see this, by the way, in pretty much every red state, they're embarrassed Democrats.

00:15:25.000 What do I mean by that?

00:15:25.000 That they personally are Democrats.

00:15:28.000 They have the belief structure, the ideals, the ideology of a Democrat, and they also have the financial backing of whatever corporate interests are in their state.

00:15:41.000 And so they will know that they have to be registered as a Republican if they want to run and win, kind of like you have to be registered as a Democrat if you want to run and win in statewide California or New York.

00:15:55.000 And so what will happen, by the way, the DA, Nate Hockman, who just got elected in LA County, a great example of this, where he was a Republican who had to leave the party and run as an independent so that he could get elected in that state because they just won't do it.

00:16:09.000 Well, the flip side also exists, boys and girls, and it exists within our red states because you have all of these... 0.69

00:16:17.000 I don't know.

00:16:18.000 Who's that guy, Dave Phelan from Texas, who ran the false impeachment on Paxton and some of these other guys, where they just sit there and they are essentially Democrats.

00:16:30.000 But because they live in a state where you have to be a Republican to get elected, then you go and run as a Republican.

00:16:38.000 And every once, you know, John Tester was doing this for years, by the way, and he finally got called on it because you'll do a video, even though, you know, he was a Democrat.

00:16:46.000 You'll every four years, you'll make a video of yourself shooting a gun, wearing a cowboy hat or driving a tractor or something like that.

00:16:52.000 And then you just walk back to Washington, D.C. and do whatever big business, whatever your corporate interests want you to do.

00:16:59.000 And then they'll come around, come primary time.

00:17:02.000 and they'll say, you've got to re-elect me.

00:17:03.000 Well, I'm the Republican.

00:17:04.000 I'm fighting for you, and I'm pro-Trump.

00:17:06.000 But when it comes down to issues like this, When it comes down to issues that actually matter, that could actually shake up the system in Washington, D.C., that is when they show their true color.

00:17:20.000 So I'll put it this way.

00:17:21.000 Donald Trump just got a lot of clarity.

00:17:23.000 He paid a high price for it, but he got a lot of clarity as to what's coming out of the United States Senate Republican Caucus.

00:17:31.000 Alright, so now let's go around the horn, guys.

00:17:33.000 Which do you think, Blake, is going to be the toughest confirmation that is looming?

00:17:38.000 Obviously, you know, we can condense the list down.

00:17:41.000 This will be an interesting thought crime panel discussion.

00:17:44.000 Do you think the most difficult will be Bobby?

00:17:47.000 Tulsi or Hegseth?

00:17:49.000 Which of the three, Blake, do you think would be the most difficult?

00:17:51.000 I have a strong opinion on this.

00:17:52.000 I will go last.

00:17:53.000 Blake, go first.

00:17:54.000 What feels weird to me is, I guess, intuitively to me, it feels like Hegseth should be the toughest one.

00:18:03.000 That's how it feels it should be to me, given...

00:18:07.000 I feel like we've sort of, it is weird to pick a TV host to run DOJ, or not DOJ, DOD. And, like, rationally, it's one where you would probably want the highest standards.

00:18:18.000 Like, the stakes are really high.

00:18:20.000 It's an enormously complex organization.

00:18:22.000 It's almost like being the CEO of a company with, you know, three million employees.

00:18:27.000 It's very huge.

00:18:28.000 Whereas, you know, like, DNI, you know, or Director of National Intelligence, you can, you know, you're just sort of sifting information.

00:18:34.000 You're, like, preparing digest for the president.

00:18:37.000 That said, it just does seem like the narratives have decided to solidify on RFK as the toughest one.

00:18:46.000 I think I am going to go with him actually being the toughest one.

00:18:49.000 The reason I'm going to say that is RFK is the one where actual money is at stake.

00:18:55.000 Where you have very large industries with many billions of dollars that are 100% not going to want RFK in that job.

00:19:04.000 And they'll go all out.

00:19:06.000 They will research.

00:19:07.000 They'll bring up every single piece of hit piece material they can.

00:19:13.000 They might...

00:19:14.000 They might break the law.

00:19:16.000 They'll break into a psychiatrist's office to steal his medical records or something.

00:19:21.000 I've heard of that happening before.

00:19:22.000 I can see everything being on the table because of the amount of money being involved, and you don't quite have the same kind of stakes there for DOD or for DNI. And so I would guess that RFK is going to be the toughest one, even though it doesn't make a ton of sense to me.

00:19:39.000 Jack, which one do you think will be the most difficult?

00:19:41.000 And then I will close.

00:19:42.000 Okay, yeah, so, well, I mean, he's highly...

00:19:45.000 No, Blake, I just wanted to say that I agree with what you're saying about Pete, that he seems to be the one that currently seems to be more of, has an easier path, or at least seems to have an easier path than the others at the moment.

00:20:00.000 RFK, of course, that's going to be a knock-down, drag-out fight.

00:20:03.000 You've got billions of dollars on the line when it comes to pharma, when it comes to GMOs, etc., etc., I honestly think it's going to be Tulsi because the Tulsi fight has already begun.

00:20:14.000 Nikki Haley, and everybody was laughing about Nikki Haley.

00:20:16.000 They said, oh, ha ha, she's putting out this little statement on her podcast nobody listens to. 0.66

00:20:20.000 And she's going after, you know, Tulsi. 0.60

00:20:23.000 She's got sour grapes and she's jealous and all this because she got passed over. 1.00

00:20:27.000 Look, look, listen to what Nikki Haley was saying in there.

00:20:30.000 These statements regarding Saudi Arabia, regarding Iran, regarding different peace deals, things that Tulsi has weighed in on in the past, stuff that she may have said when she was a card-carrying Democrat, by the way, before she had her conversion, before she came over as a Republican, they are going to use, just like Miranda writes, anything you say can and will be used against you.

00:20:53.000 And so they're going to bring all that up.

00:20:55.000 And keep in mind, folks, you've got the war party out there that is...

00:21:00.000 Looking at billions of dollars coming down to the very end when it comes to the Ukraine war, when it comes to Israel-Gaza, when it comes to so many other things around the world.

00:21:10.000 And so they want one of their people in there.

00:21:13.000 And certainly, by the way, the intel community does not want someone up there who's actually going to declassify things and tell the truth about various operations that have been going on because the DNI actually does have budget oversight for the other agencies.

00:21:28.000 Specifically for the National Intelligence Program, the NIPF. So the NIPF, which is the National Intelligence Program framework.

00:21:40.000 No acronyms.

00:21:40.000 I'm acronymed out.

00:21:41.000 I'm acronymed out, Jack.

00:21:43.000 I can't.

00:21:44.000 We literally talked about it.

00:21:46.000 Charlie and I were chatting about this.

00:21:49.000 Charlie and I were literally chatting about this all day and I go and drop one on him.

00:21:56.000 It is what people that are not qualified to be in charge of things, they do this to try and intimidate you as if they are...

00:22:04.000 It's the Intel budget.

00:22:05.000 It is the Intel budget.

00:22:06.000 That's what I'm talking about.

00:22:07.000 It's the Intel budget.

00:22:08.000 So it's sort of like it decides what programs get funded where at what agencies.

00:22:14.000 That's called the NIPF. And the DNI does have to sign off on that.

00:22:18.000 So that's a huge piece of it.

00:22:19.000 And look, if she sits there and starts asking questions about, hey, what's going on with this?

00:22:24.000 What's going on with that?

00:22:25.000 That's going to lead to a lot of answers that people do not want out there.

00:22:29.000 Tyler, which of the three do you think is going to be the hardest?

00:22:32.000 You know what?

00:22:32.000 I actually think I have a different take.

00:22:35.000 I think RFK is it.

00:22:36.000 I think RFK is going to be the toughest.

00:22:39.000 And here's the reason why.

00:22:41.000 RFK was banished from the Democrat There's one thing that you can do that will tick off the Democrats more than anything else based off of their infrastructure that they have in the new Soros arrangement with everything else, with Arabella, and that is to fundraise away from other Democrats.

00:23:05.000 And so I actually think that there is the largest axe to grind and there's the most hatred and vitriol out of anybody, including Matt Gaetz, is actually for RFK. So getting him across the finish line would be massive, would be huge, because the Democrats are being told from the people who hold their purse strings that RFK is public enemy number one and this should have never happened.

00:23:34.000 Okay.

00:23:35.000 Any thought there, Jack?

00:23:36.000 Well, one thing I'd like to throw out is, you know, do we think, and sort of a question for the bunch, do we think that someone like Tulsi or RFK, who, Tulsi was Democrat until five minutes ago, RFK is currently a card-carrying Democrat, do we think there's any possibility of Democrat votes coming over for them?

00:23:56.000 You know, you look at something like a Bernie Sanders, who Tulsi was instrumental towards in 2016.

00:24:03.000 You look at someone like a John Ossoff, who's in a state that Trump won decisively and he's up for reelection in 26.

00:24:09.000 Or even someone like John Fetterman, who's trying to play this game of like, oh, I'm a moderate, I'm based Fetterman or whatever.

00:24:15.000 I'm not saying that it's that I think it's going to happen.

00:24:18.000 But I think I also think why not target three or four and see what happens?

00:24:22.000 Thank you.

00:24:23.000 Yeah, I think it's highly unlikely.

00:24:25.000 My belief is this.

00:24:27.000 I think Tulsi is by far the hardest.

00:24:30.000 And hear me out.

00:24:31.000 That Bobby Kennedy is going to be tough.

00:24:34.000 However, he is so well-liked by the base.

00:24:37.000 Tulsi is too.

00:24:38.000 But Bobby will get, like, fever pitch support from the base.

00:24:41.000 I think Tyler agrees that there's Bobby energy that doesn't exist of all the other three.

00:24:48.000 Secondly, with HHS, it's going to be a fight.

00:24:51.000 There is a ton of money there.

00:24:53.000 But of the three, I'm not going to say it's going to be easy.

00:24:57.000 Of the three, the keeper of secrets...

00:25:00.000 Tulsi Gabbard is going to be the biggest fight.

00:25:03.000 You think about Pete Hegseth, okay?

00:25:06.000 So with Pete Hegseth, he'll make the military less woke.

00:25:09.000 He'll make it more lethal.

00:25:11.000 In some ways, Neocons will be okay with that, right? 1.00

00:25:16.000 And he will only be able to do as much as what the president does, right?

00:25:21.000 And there's not like mass amounts of like institutional long decade disruption to their plans that Pete Hegseth can do that the president is not already determining, right?

00:25:33.000 Because the president every single day is dictating the cadence of The foreign policy.

00:25:40.000 Okay.

00:25:40.000 Now, Pete will be able to, you know, by the way, a lot of senators are coming out in support of Pete.

00:25:45.000 A lot.

00:25:46.000 Mark Wayne Mullen.

00:25:47.000 Like, he's gaining a lot of momentum on the Hill.

00:25:50.000 More so than the other nominees.

00:25:52.000 Now, by the way, I love Tulsi.

00:25:53.000 I was just with her today.

00:25:54.000 Like, I'm 100% behind Tulsi.

00:25:56.000 However, let me build out the case.

00:25:58.000 Bobby is interesting.

00:26:00.000 I think Bobby is going to do very well in his confirmation hearing.

00:26:03.000 He'll have depth of knowledge.

00:26:04.000 And what is their excuse for Bobby going to be?

00:26:06.000 That he's a vaccine skeptic?

00:26:09.000 Okay, I think he'll actually be able to explain that pretty well.

00:26:13.000 But with Tulsi, think about it.

00:26:15.000 What Tulsi could do at the head of DNI, we're talking about fulfilling the promise of the JFK files.

00:26:21.000 We're talking about finding out potential foreign involvement in 9-11 beyond what we know, like Saudi intelligence, etc., which, Jack, I know you've been very interested in throughout the years.

00:26:32.000 We're talking about getting to the baseline of the origins of COVID. We're talking about the origins of Russiagate.

00:26:40.000 The keeper of secrets, if I had to say where they're going to fight the highest, is the intel community.

00:26:46.000 Does anybody disagree with that assessment?

00:26:48.000 I'm not saying anyone is easy, but I think the easiest will actually be Pete, and the hardest will be Tulsi.

00:26:54.000 Feel free to disagree, guys.

00:26:56.000 And it would be fitting, too, if Tulsi got through, that the former congresswoman who looks most like an X-Men would release all the information about aliens. 0.78

00:27:08.000 Wait, which X-Men?

00:27:11.000 Storm.

00:27:12.000 Well, no, no.

00:27:13.000 She has the white.

00:27:14.000 Oh, no, no, you're right.

00:27:15.000 It's Rogue.

00:27:17.000 That's Rogue, yeah.

00:27:18.000 She doesn't look like Rogue. 0.86

00:27:19.000 Yeah, Rogue has the white streak there.

00:27:20.000 Oh, she has the white streak there. 0.98

00:27:21.000 She has the white streak there.

00:27:23.000 Kind of.

00:27:24.000 Rogue's like a southern girl. 1.00

00:27:26.000 You guys don't understand your X-Men lore.

00:27:30.000 She's a crossover. 1.00

00:27:31.000 She's all of them folded into one, okay?

00:27:34.000 Wait, wait, wait.

00:27:35.000 Here's a piece of it that I'd love to throw out, by the way, though, and I'd love to get into that later.

00:27:41.000 But, you know, Charlie, not only would she declassify that, she would declassify the wiretapping that's going on currently in the U.S. government or, by the way, the wiretapping that goes on when one of our friends, when we say, oh, we want to look into Jack Posobiec and Tyler Boyer and Blake Neff and maybe even Charlie Kirk.

00:28:04.000 And then you say, we can't touch that, so I gotta call GCHQ, or I gotta call DGSE, or call up...

00:28:09.000 These are the Five Eyes partners in the English-speaking world who can come around and say, well, you can look into them, and so you tell me what they're up to, and then I'll make some, like, fake FISA case against them.

00:28:21.000 Look, do we...

00:28:23.000 Did we learn nothing in 2016 and 2017?

00:28:26.000 No, I don't think so.

00:28:27.000 So remember what they did to Flynn, remember they did the Carter Page and George Papadopoulos.

00:28:31.000 If you think that that kind of stuff, inserting people, people being inserted from the deep state into the administration or having the FBI run these operations on people inside the White House itself, if you think that they just stopped and they went away, like, is it your first day here?

00:28:47.000 I'm confused.

00:28:48.000 Yeah.

00:28:48.000 And so, Blake, what do you think of that assessment?

00:28:50.000 Again, I think Bobby is going to be a fight.

00:28:52.000 But I think Bobby and Trump are creating a very close relationship, what I'm seeing.

00:28:58.000 And I think Trump is willing to go to the mat for Bobby for multiple reasons.

00:29:02.000 And again, I am totally on board for Tulsi.

00:29:05.000 Again, I'm trying to help her any way I can.

00:29:07.000 But I think Trump looked to Bobby at an inflection point where that endorsement really, really made a difference.

00:29:12.000 Remember, that was the day after the Democrat convention.

00:29:14.000 It was at...

00:29:16.000 The Turning Point Action event in Arizona.

00:29:19.000 There was a lot of momentum that came after it.

00:29:22.000 So, Blake, what do you think of that assessment?

00:29:24.000 Yeah, I think that makes sense.

00:29:25.000 And I think, bigger picture, Trump does care, kind of in this very direct businessman way, about delivering on overt promises that he made.

00:29:34.000 And, you know, he very much considered that a priority with his first admin.

00:29:38.000 Like, you know, really saying, promises made, promises kept.

00:29:40.000 Here's how I delivered on all the things that I said I would do when I was running.

00:29:44.000 And I think he probably views this RFK thing the same way.

00:29:47.000 You know, he had a businessman's deal.

00:29:49.000 If you endorse me, I will let you take charge on this specific agenda.

00:29:55.000 And I've talked to people who are just like, oh, well, RFK is served.

00:29:58.000 He's not useful anymore.

00:30:00.000 Cut him loose. 0.99

00:30:00.000 Like, what sort of, like, weird HBO poisoned brain you have where he's just like, oh, use them and throw them away. 0.99

00:30:07.000 That's not how Trump operates.

00:30:09.000 Trump does consider it.

00:30:10.000 It's not that he is incapable of saying, oh, this person, it's not working out, we have to pull it.

00:30:16.000 But this was a direct promise he made.

00:30:18.000 He got votes.

00:30:19.000 He maybe won the election because he made this promise.

00:30:21.000 And if he breaks it, what other deals can he propose for the rest of the next four years?

00:30:28.000 He's a guy who breaks his deals.

00:30:30.000 So I think you're very strong.

00:30:31.000 You're very correct.

00:30:31.000 He will go to the mat for RFK. I personally wonder, will that be enough?

00:30:37.000 Will you just run into that brick wall where you're going to have 15 Republican senators who say, sorry, Pfizer says it's a no-go.

00:30:45.000 We're not going to let it go.

00:30:46.000 And then where do you go from there?

00:30:49.000 Tulsi...

00:30:50.000 I understand your argument, but I think about the fact, like, Meghan McCain has already endorsed Tulsi. 0.98

00:30:56.000 I think that is easy to make fun of, yet I think that actually could go a little bit of a ways where you'll have a few of those voices who will say, wait, guys, this Russian asset thing people say is dumb.

00:31:07.000 She is literally a serving member of the United States Armed Forces right now.

00:31:12.000 Like, if you think she's a Russian spy, why isn't she being investigated?

00:31:15.000 Why isn't she undergoing a court-martial? 1.00

00:31:17.000 Oh, everyone knows this is BS. This is just a thing they made up.

00:31:21.000 And I think there's room for that narrative to expand and spread.

00:31:27.000 Like, people are going to go, okay, this is a woman who was a member of Congress, and she ran for president as a Democrat.

00:31:34.000 She didn't win, but this wasn't considered a manifestly insane, treasonous thing.

00:31:40.000 And combined with the fact that, as I said, D&I, there's not as much money invested in it.

00:31:46.000 And if they scuttle her, Trump could easily just install someone else who might have the same agenda.

00:31:54.000 I think she has better odds than Charlie rates it as, but I can understand the argument.

00:31:58.000 Yeah, and I'll just kind of give my take on Tulsi.

00:32:02.000 I actually think that they're mishandling the Tulsi situation.

00:32:06.000 You know, from a typical Saul Alinsky playbook type of an angle.

00:32:12.000 I think that you brought up, Charlie.

00:32:15.000 I could be wrong.

00:32:16.000 We'll see.

00:32:17.000 But I think that the opening is there to try to attack RFK from an Alinsky type perspective.

00:32:26.000 But there's less of that with Tulsi.

00:32:29.000 And I think that entire...

00:32:30.000 No, you're right.

00:32:31.000 I mean, make the enemy live up to a book of its own rules type thing.

00:32:34.000 Because the left talks a good game on healthy eating and against corporate farming.

00:32:39.000 Now, I will say, though, Tyler, Bernie Sanders, Ron Wyden, they tend to be against the intel agencies, but there's not a lot of those Democrat senators, though.

00:32:47.000 Not a lot.

00:32:48.000 Yeah, there's not.

00:32:49.000 I mean, we'll see.

00:32:50.000 I mean, and I could be totally wrong here.

00:32:53.000 I could, you know, here's, again, this is where I just always look to, like, where are the purse strings?

00:33:00.000 And who poses the greatest threat to the purse strings within the Democrats?

00:33:05.000 This is the reason why Bernie...

00:33:06.000 Bernie endorsed Hillary ultimately.

00:33:09.000 And this is why Bernie endorsed Joe Biden.

00:33:10.000 And this is why Bernie endorsed Kamala.

00:33:12.000 I mean, it was a little easier for him with Kamala.

00:33:14.000 But is that ultimately his access to the left's data and money pool and specifically Act Blue and all of that, even though he may not subscribe to every element of it, is dependent upon his willingness to play ball on these things.

00:33:31.000 And again, that's why I think all these are going to be difficult with Democrats.

00:33:36.000 The real question is Republicans and see if we can overcome and who can't get bought off by the center-left joint in D.C. Well, there's a ton too.

00:33:46.000 And by the way, you know, just to say, Chelsea is personally my favorite pick out of any of the cabinet thus far.

00:33:53.000 And just as I say, as a guy who was in the Intel community and understands how much reform is actually needed there, and I don't know anybody else on the scene that's actually going to be able to do anything.

00:34:04.000 Like she would.

00:34:05.000 I mean, go in there and actually start shaking things up in the 18 agencies.

00:34:09.000 That being said, yeah, no, Tyler, what you were saying as well about the way it's being managed.

00:34:14.000 I mean, Tulsi is someone who, what is the main thing that beyond her service and beyond her record, what is the main thing that people know about her is she is fantastic on camera.

00:34:25.000 She is fantastic in interviews.

00:34:27.000 She is fantastic.

00:34:28.000 I mean, why not have Tulsi Gabbard go out there and respond to this latest, the long-range missile thing in Ukraine?

00:34:34.000 Why not have Tulsi Gabbard respond?

00:34:35.000 You know, Putin just gave this huge speech thrown down in Moscow, talking about, hey, if you want a war, you got one.

00:34:41.000 If you, you know, we've got these long-range missiles, or I guess it's medium-range ballistic missile with hypersonic glide, etc.

00:34:48.000 Have Tulsi be the person responding on all of these various things.

00:34:51.000 Empower her to actually be, and she could sit with Mike Waltz and figure out what they want the response to be, and then could actually be, in a sense, sort of Setting it up so that it's almost like she's doing the job already.

00:35:05.000 And I think she would get a lot of support, maybe not so much just on the inside game, but you've got to build up the outside game.

00:35:12.000 And you're right, Charlie, she doesn't have that kind of Bobby Kennedy energy, but if you put her out there and actually have her start giving statements, she's going to be someone that's going to break up. 1.00

00:35:20.000 Out of the sort of MAGA silo.

00:35:23.000 And our silo is bigger than it's ever been.

00:35:25.000 But she's going to reach out to independents.

00:35:26.000 She's going to reach out to women. 1.00

00:35:27.000 There's so many people are going to want to hear what Tulsi has to say.

00:35:30.000 I think it would be a media strategy for her could be helpful if done properly. 0.60

00:35:38.000 So I think we've glossed over something that's important.

00:35:42.000 What's next for Matt Gaetz?

00:35:44.000 So here's my question.

00:35:46.000 Matt Gaetz resigned from the current Congress, right?

00:35:49.000 So he resigned from the Congress of 2023 to 2025. That Congress hasn't ended yet, and the next Congress is the one that he was elected to.

00:36:02.000 So maybe that's a Blake question.

00:36:03.000 Blake, does that resignation count for the session that he was just elected for, or no?

00:36:09.000 I don't even know how that works.

00:36:10.000 Wow, I've never thought about that, I guess.

00:36:15.000 You get what I'm saying, right?

00:36:16.000 I get what you're saying.

00:36:17.000 I wonder if it's like...

00:36:20.000 You'd probably have to get into the technicalities.

00:36:22.000 He sent a letter to the governor saying he was resigning effective immediately.

00:36:27.000 Maybe that technically excludes...

00:36:31.000 That essentially is him announcing he's forfeiting.

00:36:34.000 Ah!

00:36:34.000 We got him back!

00:36:36.000 Charlie is back.

00:36:37.000 I've been answering this question.

00:36:38.000 It's very simple.

00:36:39.000 Yes, if Matt Gaetz wishes, he can easily resume the next Congress.

00:36:44.000 He resigned from this Congress.

00:36:47.000 Just then tell DeSantis to cancel the special election.

00:36:50.000 Very simple.

00:36:51.000 It's still within the window.

00:36:52.000 Candidates have not yet been filed.

00:36:53.000 Until candidates are filed for that special election, the governor has the ability to cancel that special election.

00:36:58.000 He has like a week and a half to decide.

00:37:00.000 No, that was simple.

00:37:01.000 Yeah, I mean, in his resignation letter, he said he did not intend to take his oath of office.

00:37:07.000 Yeah, I mean, I don't think he's going back to Congress.

00:37:11.000 I don't think he's going back to Congress.

00:37:12.000 So he doesn't want to.

00:37:13.000 I mean, it certainly doesn't look like it, but...

00:37:15.000 But we could force him.

00:37:16.000 We could grab him, put him in the van, drive him, he'll wake up in Congress.

00:37:21.000 Welcome back. 0.97

00:37:22.000 Kick him out on the steps. 0.97

00:37:23.000 You have to go back.

00:37:25.000 Yeah.

00:37:25.000 I mean, we might need the vote, so the way these things are looking, it's very close.

00:37:31.000 But assuming he doesn't go back to the House, some people have brought up he could be appointed to the Senate vacancy, but you would need DeSantis to go along with that.

00:37:41.000 And there might be a lot of people who want that Senate seat. 0.84

00:37:44.000 And he also just might not want it.

00:37:46.000 DeSantis will not give that to him.

00:37:47.000 That's not happening.

00:37:48.000 The story was always that he wanted to run for governor when DeSantis was headed out.

00:37:52.000 And there's no reason he still can't do that.

00:37:55.000 That's only two years out.

00:37:56.000 So he could pivot right to campaigning.

00:37:58.000 By the way, but if DeSantis gave...

00:38:01.000 And they've had a good relationship.

00:38:02.000 They've always maintained a good relationship, even with the primary being notwithstanding.

00:38:06.000 That if DeSantis...

00:38:10.000 Appointed Gates to the Senate seat, then that would clear the governor's seat for the 26 race.

00:38:17.000 So DeSantis could kind of, could then maybe maneuver to get one of his people over there.

00:38:22.000 Very true.

00:38:23.000 Because he's term limited.

00:38:24.000 Of course, a common sense, yeah, is the reason he would want the Senate seat to be open is that DeSantis himself would want to get into it.

00:38:32.000 Some people have even said he might appoint his wife, Casey.

00:38:37.000 It's like Star Wars.

00:38:39.000 Only five families are allowed to hold offices.

00:38:41.000 The biggest sign that you know that Matt's not going back to Congress, you want to know what it is?

00:38:46.000 Ginger posted On Instagram, the end of an era.

00:38:50.000 So, when the wife says that it's over, it's really over.

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00:39:53.000 What is Blue Sky?

00:39:54.000 Somebody fill me in on this.

00:39:56.000 I'm hearing about this a lot.

00:39:57.000 Oh, this is great.

00:39:58.000 So Blue Sky is, let's see, actually, let's bring it up on the other laptop so people can look at it.

00:40:05.000 People on Blue Sky are like people in public who wear masks.

00:40:08.000 Yeah, so if you bring it up here, I have it on the computer.

00:40:11.000 By the way, Blake, I happened to notice that Dave is not a Mac guy the other day.

00:40:14.000 Oh, that's good.

00:40:15.000 That's good, because Macs are bad.

00:40:17.000 Consider that my anti-endorsement following that.

00:40:19.000 Can we get money for anti-endorsement?

00:40:22.000 Completely agree.

00:40:23.000 But what's great about it, first of all, bring up the computer here, guys.

00:40:27.000 One of the things that's great about this is, I guess there's no intellectual property at all in terms of how you make a website, because Blue Sky just looks exactly like Twitter, It uses, like, the exact same logo, except it's a butterfly instead of a bird.

00:40:42.000 I don't know if people can see this easily.

00:40:46.000 And it, like, has the exact same feed structure.

00:40:51.000 As far as I can tell, it even, like, uses, like, the same icons.

00:40:54.000 Like, oh, you got replies.

00:40:55.000 You have your re...

00:40:57.000 skies. 0.72

00:40:58.000 Re...

00:40:59.000 In fact, I think the lingo term they're going with instead of tweet is, I've read this, it's skeet, which, one, is exactly like tweet, and two, look it up on Urban Dictionary.

00:41:13.000 There is a gross meaning of that that we're not going to talk about here.

00:41:18.000 But it's all just 100% the exact same thing as Twitter, except what it is is it's Twitter for people who miss old Twitter.

00:41:28.000 Not really old Twitter when it was funny in 2015 when Trump was taking it over, but oppressive Stalinist Twitter in 2020. People who are mad that...

00:41:41.000 When people say things that I don't like about vaccines or about elections, it makes me so mad.

00:41:49.000 I just want to go to a place where it can be censored.

00:41:52.000 And so it's censored Twitter.

00:41:53.000 It's maximum censorship Twitter.

00:41:55.000 There's a great post by Nate Silver that he just made today, actually.

00:42:00.000 You guys can put it up there.

00:42:01.000 I would join Blue Sky if it was like 2012 to 2015 Twitter.

00:42:05.000 But the people going there seem to think 2019 to 2020 Twitter was good when it was the most miserable place on Earth unless you happen to fit within a very particular lane.

00:42:17.000 And that's the thought he's had.

00:42:18.000 It's a thought a lot of people are having.

00:42:21.000 One of the funniest things is all these libs are joining Blue Sky.

00:42:26.000 One of the funniest examples of this is all these sports journalists are joining Blue Sky because they're all ideological screamer people.

00:42:33.000 And the athletes are not.

00:42:35.000 The athletes are just staying on Twitter because Twitter is bigger and more popular.

00:42:37.000 But these are all zealots, so they have to go to Blue Sky.

00:42:40.000 And I guess I should explain, the reason they're doing it is because...

00:42:45.000 They've decided that Musk is to blame, like, you know, the evil orange Hitler came back, and it's because there wasn't enough censorship on Twitter.

00:42:52.000 They could have censored this, so now they're finally voting with their feet, and it's all these, like, you know, the Stephen King, boomer, lib, resistance types who are mad.

00:43:02.000 And one of the funniest things that's happening is there's sort of a left-wing, real-raw news conspiracy thing that thinks, like, Musk stole the election by having Starlink satellites.

00:43:15.000 Yeah, it's Blue Anon.

00:43:15.000 Like, they stole the election with the Starlink satellites.

00:43:19.000 And they're all getting banned on Blue Sky because they auto-ban all the election deniers.

00:43:23.000 And that they're going to overturn it.

00:43:24.000 Yeah.

00:43:25.000 Yeah, and so I think the Babylon Bee guys set up over there, and they started posting some articles, and every single one of their posts got taken down on Blue Sky.

00:43:37.000 But one of the interesting things, I don't have any at my fingertips, and I don't know any that I can actually mention here in Polite Company, because Thoughtcrime is, of course, a family show, but there have been some really funny anons Going over and brigading Blue Sky.

00:43:57.000 And basically what they're doing is they're going over there and pretending to be leftist and just saying the craziest stuff to troll them and let's just mess with them and see how they respond and see how they react to things.

00:44:11.000 I think there was one that was like, I'm a proud trans woman and I'll use the bathroom wherever I want.

00:44:16.000 Not just whatever room it is.

00:44:18.000 Wherever place I'm standing in, I'm going to use the bathroom right there.

00:44:21.000 And how dare you tell me otherwise?

00:44:23.000 And they're going up against these like, you know, like Rob Reiner and Mark Cuban type people.

00:44:29.000 They're like, wait, what are you talking about?

00:44:30.000 And they just don't know how to respond to it whatsoever.

00:44:33.000 This is similar to, for those who are familiar with their deep lore of the movement, it's similar to back in the old days when 4chan used to brigade Tumblr in like the Gamergate era and some of that stuff.

00:44:48.000 And it's just been absolutely hilarious.

00:44:52.000 Let's go to Jussie Smollett in the time we have remaining, guys.

00:44:55.000 So what is the news with Jussie Smollett?

00:44:58.000 I definitely want to hit this.

00:44:59.000 This is MAGA country. 0.61

00:45:00.000 The juice is loose.

00:45:02.000 Juicy Smollett, as Dave Chappelle called him.

00:45:05.000 So Jussie Smollett, that was five and a half years ago at this point.

00:45:09.000 It was early 2019, I believe.

00:45:10.000 As everyone remembers, Jussie Smollett was attacked by guys wearing MAGA hats.

00:45:15.000 He said, this is MAGA country, and they hung a noose around his neck and did all this bad stuff.

00:45:19.000 And it was all transparently fake.

00:45:21.000 It was some bizarre attempt to boost his career by being the victim of a hate crime.

00:45:26.000 And Kim Fox, the DA or whatever they call it in Chicago, dropped all charges against him for extremely obvious politically motivated reasons.

00:45:35.000 So they appointed a special counsel who investigated it, charged him.

00:45:39.000 He was convicted in 2021 and sentenced to 150 days in jail.

00:45:43.000 He never served a single day of that, even though many people have gone to prison for lesser things, in my opinion.

00:45:49.000 He never served a single day.

00:45:50.000 It's been winding through the extremely glacial Illinois justice system for three years now, and the Illinois Supreme Court says, actually, it's double jeopardy that they charged him through a special counsel after DA Kim Fox dropped the charges because in the process he, like, forfeited some $10,000 bond or whatever, like, And so it was double jeopardy, they say.

00:46:15.000 So the juice is loose.

00:46:17.000 He is an innocent man, just like, you know, another famous person with juice as a nickname.

00:46:24.000 And it's pretty wild.

00:46:26.000 And I do think there's actually a serious takeaway here, which is it was always, to me, inherently ridiculous that Smollett, like, he gets charged just for filing a false police report.

00:46:38.000 Like, he called, like, you know, it's a 150-day thing.

00:46:41.000 He was basically doing a blood libel against half the country.

00:46:45.000 If we believe the concept of a hate crime exists, a crime motivated by hatred against another group of people, what is more fitting than you make up a completely insane salacious allegation against a group of people to encourage hatred of them?

00:47:03.000 I think faking a hate crime should actually be a serious thing.

00:47:06.000 Like, federal government comes in, charges him with a civil rights offense, and says, you're going to jail for five years, ten years, because it is not acceptable to defame a group of people like this.

00:47:16.000 That's my take.

00:47:17.000 He could have started race riots in Chicago.

00:47:20.000 Yeah!

00:47:20.000 He literally could have started race riots.

00:47:22.000 This is what would start like pogroms against Jewish people is they'd say like, oh, we found evidence that the Jews did this evil thing and then they would murder them. 0.98

00:47:29.000 That's what they would do in Russia. 0.98

00:47:30.000 That is how bad stuff starts.

00:47:34.000 This is not a... 1.00

00:47:35.000 Okay, it is funny because he is specifically a stupid and ridiculous person, but what he did was really bad. 1.00

00:47:42.000 Really, really bad. 1.00

00:47:43.000 And I think a good thing for whoever the next AG is, following up on Gates, is we should treat faking a hate crime as it is the real hate crime, as it were.

00:47:56.000 It should get the correlated punishment.

00:47:58.000 All right, this is one of my favorite clips ever.

00:47:59.000 By the way, I knew this was fake as soon as, because I know Chicago very well, as soon as Jussie Smollett said that these guys were walking around in negative 10-degree weather.

00:48:08.000 If you've ever spent time in Chicago when it's negative 10-degree weather, no one is gallivanting around, you know, saying this is MAGA country on the way to Subway.

00:48:16.000 And I know the neighborhood.

00:48:17.000 It's right near Streeterville.

00:48:18.000 This did not happen.

00:48:20.000 Playcut 74. They took our beautiful bench.

00:48:23.000 This is where we waited for Jussie to come before we attacked him.

00:48:30.000 So we got here with ten minutes to spare, and we had to plan our escape route to survey the land.

00:48:37.000 His building is actually right here, right above the stairs that we're going to attack him at.

00:48:43.000 We made sure we got there at 2 a.m., sharp.

00:48:47.000 On the dot.

00:48:48.000 We had no phones because he did not want us to bring any phones.

00:48:52.000 He said, so we don't lose them.

00:48:54.000 I don't know if that's really the reason, but you can deduce your own reason.

00:49:00.000 He was nowhere to be found.

00:49:02.000 He was not there. 0.98

00:49:03.000 So we were like, damn, what do we do? 0.96

00:49:06.000 But we didn't have no way of contacting him. 0.97

00:49:08.000 He had no way of contacting us.

00:49:10.000 So we waited here for about, what, four minutes?

00:49:13.000 It was about four minutes.

00:49:14.000 Roughly four minutes.

00:49:15.000 But it felt like forever.

00:49:16.000 Because it was cold as balls.

00:49:19.000 So I saw him out the corner of my eye, and I was like, OK, that's him.

00:49:22.000 Let's go.

00:49:24.000 We got to go get this empire .

00:49:27.000 Yeah, that's him.

00:49:28.000 That's him.

00:49:29.000 That's that .

00:49:30.000 That's that .

00:49:31.000 Get that .

00:49:32.000 Oh, he's moving fast.

00:49:33.000 Come on, let's get him. 0.95

00:49:34.000 Get that .

00:49:35.000 Let's get him.

00:49:36.000 As we cross the street, we say hey to get his attention.

00:49:40.000 Hey,.

00:49:41.000 Hey! 0.99

00:49:42.000 He turned around, looked at us, and that's when we started yelling the famous slurs he wanted us to yell.

00:49:50.000 Hey! 0.99

00:49:51.000 Aren't you that Empire?

00:49:52.000 Empire,.

00:49:54.000 It's MAGA country! 0.56

00:49:57.000 And then he said, what did you say to me?

00:49:59.000 And then that's when I threw the first punch at him.

00:50:03.000 I held the blow, because I didn't want to hurt him, of course.

00:50:06.000 So I made it look real, but I held it.

00:50:10.000 Then we started tussling, moving around, and then I threw him to the ground.

00:50:14.000 He wanted it to look like he fought back. 1.00

00:50:17.000 That was very important for him, because he said, hey, don't just beat my ass. 0.99

00:50:22.000 Make it look like I'm fighting back and whatnot. 0.99

00:50:24.000 So we did that.

00:50:25.000 And then I threw him to the ground.

00:50:27.000 And while after I threw him to the ground, he had no bruise.

00:50:31.000 I wanted it to look more real.

00:50:33.000 So then I threw him to the ground.

00:50:35.000 After I threw him to the ground, I used my knuckle and gave him a noogie.

00:50:39.000 So I went like this.

00:50:42.000 Why did I do that?

00:50:44.000 To give him a scar.

00:50:45.000 To give him a mark.

00:50:46.000 To make it look real like he really did get his beat. 0.78

00:50:50.000 After I did that, I fake kicked him.

00:50:52.000 I don't know what he was doing.

00:50:54.000 I wasn't paying attention.

00:50:54.000 That's where I came around with the bleach, the infamous bleach in the hot sauce bottle, poured it on his shirt, then I finally put the rope around his face.

00:51:04.000 I did not put it around his neck.

00:51:06.000 I just placed it on his face, and that's when we took off.

00:51:10.000 Charlie, isn't that like right by Trump Tower?

00:51:13.000 Isn't that like right over...

00:51:14.000 It's a little ways away.

00:51:15.000 It's about five or six blocks north.

00:51:18.000 But it's the general area.

00:51:20.000 Remember, you can walk around there pretty...

00:51:24.000 I know the street that that happened.

00:51:26.000 I know, like, I've been there many times.

00:51:28.000 And yes, not only can you walk around there, this is right near the Gold Coast neighborhood.

00:51:32.000 A little bit south, actually, like Streeterville River North.

00:51:34.000 And the idea that anyone back then would wear a MAGA hat.

00:51:38.000 Now, mind you, I might believe the MAGA hat portion of this in 2024, now that we've brought the MAGA hat back.

00:51:45.000 But the MAGA hat was, like, verboten back when this happened.

00:51:51.000 Well, and, like, everything about it is, you just remember, it takes me back to the UVA story.

00:51:56.000 Remember the Rolling Stone story about the assault at UVA? And, like, the details in these stories are so ridiculous, and everyone would believe them. 0.61

00:52:05.000 So it's like, okay, that they would recognize this guy in the street at 2 a.m., While wearing their MAGA hats at 2 a.m.

00:52:14.000 when it's 10 degrees out, as one does.

00:52:16.000 And then just think, yeah, let's assault this guy. 0.96

00:52:20.000 What are we going to assault him with?

00:52:21.000 The noose that we're carrying around at night.

00:52:25.000 And the bleach that we are also carrying around in Chicago in the middle of the night for some reason.

00:52:36.000 It was probably in a Kirk's hot sauce bottle.

00:52:38.000 It could be.

00:52:40.000 It probably was a Kirk's hot sauce.

00:52:42.000 Well, did we verify which hot sauce this was?

00:52:44.000 Ooh.

00:52:44.000 But they poured out.

00:52:46.000 Keep in mind, Kamala Harris, I believe, still has her tweet up about what happened to Juicy.

00:52:51.000 She does.

00:52:51.000 And I don't think she's ever even...

00:52:53.000 She was never even asked about it.

00:52:55.000 Who?

00:52:55.000 Who has the tweet up?

00:52:56.000 Kamala.

00:52:57.000 Who?

00:52:57.000 Oh, yeah.

00:52:59.000 Sorry, I don't know where that is.

00:53:00.000 She was in school and ran for president once.

00:53:01.000 It was...

00:53:02.000 No, Donald Trump is the president.

00:53:04.000 Donald Trump.

00:53:05.000 You know what's crazy about this entire thing?

00:53:08.000 2019, everyone forgets this.

00:53:10.000 It was never reported on.

00:53:11.000 There were aggressive Antifa people outside threatening people in Washington, D.C. that walked out of the Trump Tower, out of the Trump Hotel.

00:53:20.000 Every time they walked out of the Trump Hotel, threatening.

00:53:23.000 I witnessed it numerous, numerous times.

00:53:26.000 And this was just before COVID happened.

00:53:29.000 Charlie, you remember all this when things were going on down there.

00:53:32.000 You could not come out of there and walk safely out of there because it wasn't that dangerous because they wouldn't actually do it.

00:53:38.000 But they would actually threaten you for wearing a MAGA hat.

00:53:41.000 It was the opposite.

00:53:43.000 It was literally the opposite happening.

00:53:45.000 No one ever reported on it.

00:53:47.000 People got assaulted all the time, got pushed around.

00:53:49.000 They would get in your face, they'd spit on you, they'd do all sorts of things.

00:53:53.000 Nothing ever was done about it.

00:53:55.000 And then meanwhile, this guy just makes stuff up, something that never happened, and it never would happen.

00:54:00.000 It's crazy.

00:54:01.000 I totally agree.

00:54:03.000 I got to dash in just a second here, and I think if you guys can keep on going, that would be great.

00:54:08.000 But one other topic here, I do want to kind of introduce guys, which I think is important very quickly, is kind of around...

00:54:17.000 What we spoke about earlier with the administration.

00:54:21.000 Anything that you guys are seeing on the Democrat side or on a subversion side, Jack in particular, that we have to watch out for, for undermining Donald Trump's agenda and marching orders for our audience before I sign off?

00:54:34.000 I mean, subversion, yeah.

00:54:36.000 There's all sorts of subversion.

00:54:37.000 There's no question about that.

00:54:39.000 I'm not saying anything on the Democrat side, but no, it's Republicans.

00:54:42.000 It's establishment types getting into the admin.

00:54:44.000 Look, we won the war, but can we win the peace, right?

00:54:47.000 So we won the battle.

00:54:48.000 We won the big fight.

00:54:49.000 We won the election.

00:54:51.000 Great.

00:54:51.000 Awesome.

00:54:51.000 But now the peace comes.

00:54:53.000 And Charlie, you've been down there doing the yeoman's work, of course, really trying to fight this out because, look, If we don't have the right people in the right positions come January 20, come January 20, then all of the gains that we have put together could all fall apart.

00:55:09.000 Think about all of the threats that happened in 2017. People do not remember that 2017 as a year It was a year of pure hell.

00:55:20.000 It was a year of hell.

00:55:21.000 It really was.

00:55:23.000 The entire establishment came after every single person associated with the Trump campaign, every person that they were going after.

00:55:29.000 They had a special prosecutor.

00:55:31.000 That one after Jeff Sessions was like sucking his thumb in the corner crying about this.

00:55:35.000 And all of which happened under the guise of the Trump administration.

00:55:40.000 A lot of which, by the way, was a response.

00:55:42.000 This is such an important lesson.

00:55:44.000 You're exactly right.

00:55:45.000 Keep going, Jack.

00:55:46.000 Just finish it off.

00:55:47.000 Because they're going to try to do the same thing over and over again.

00:55:50.000 Yeah.

00:55:50.000 Yeah so this idea that like oh we're just and you saw what just happened in Gates like that's real power okay that's real power and MAGA is going to come up against that the same way we did in 2017 and you notice that that in 2017 uh there were certain initiatives that never went fell through or that never that never kept up Steve Bannon was bounced from the White House a lot of good people were bounced from the White House And you got people like H.R. McMaster in there, the town drunk, you got General Kelly in there, and you go look at this guy.

00:56:20.000 So again, you know, we saw so much subversion, even from people who quote-unquote look good on paper, that eventually turned around and started stabbing people.

00:56:29.000 John Kelly was running around talking about Nazis and Hitler in the waning days of the election of 2024 just a couple weeks ago.

00:56:36.000 ago.

00:56:37.000 And this was a guy who was Homeland Security Secretary and a guy who was Chief of Staff of the White House.

00:56:43.000 So don't sit there for a second and tell me that, oh, we can just bring in anybody off the street who spent enough time in Washington.

00:56:48.000 And by the way, John Kelly, when I was at Guantanamo, he was the South Com commander.

00:56:52.000 So he came in a number of times, right?

00:56:54.000 He was part of the system.

00:56:55.000 I met him a bunch of times down there.

00:56:57.000 But it doesn't matter.

00:56:58.000 When you're part of the system, you're part of the system.

00:57:01.000 And MAGA is not part of the system.

00:57:02.000 MAGA is trying to take over the system.

00:57:04.000 So you're going to see this.

00:57:06.000 It's like an immune response, right?

00:57:08.000 You're going to see this immune response.

00:57:10.000 And I hope people can just wake up, just wake up and realize you got to get ready for that before it comes.

00:57:15.000 Okay, so Tyler is here.

00:57:17.000 Blake is here.

00:57:18.000 Myself, Charlie had to run.

00:57:21.000 He's down there in West Palm.

00:57:23.000 I'm going to be in and out a little bit.

00:57:26.000 I have a war room hit coming up, but I will be coming back.

00:57:31.000 But we got Tyler, man, we and Blake as well.

00:57:33.000 We've got to talk about this stuff with Russia.

00:57:36.000 This was the big one.

00:57:37.000 And before the Gates News came out and this like hoax story about Trump, you know, maybe having a heart attack or something was totally fake. 0.89

00:57:44.000 That came out of some, like, fake pool at Mar-a-Lago, which is just ridiculous, redonkulous, actually.

00:57:51.000 Tyler, did Ukraine get nuked last night?

00:57:55.000 What's going on?

00:57:56.000 That was about as close as the report was of what was going on at Mar-a-Lago.

00:58:02.000 So the answer was that Ukraine got nuked and Donald Trump had a heart attack simultaneously.

00:58:10.000 So that's what was coming out.

00:58:12.000 But you have more of the intel on exactly what happened and can get into the specifications.

00:58:17.000 But look, I'll tell you right away, I mean, this thing is escalating quickly and it's at the cost of America.

00:58:25.000 It's at the cost of the entire world for the Russian people, for the Ukrainian people. 1.00

00:58:30.000 Because, you know, Joe Biden is not, you know, not staying on his meds and not getting enough rest.

00:58:39.000 And there's a little bit too much Jill going on over there, I think.

00:58:43.000 And hence, we're, you know, they're trying to escalate real quickly.

00:58:46.000 This is their last chance at World War Three, you know, over the course of the next couple of months.

00:58:50.000 And they're seeing it slip away from them very, very quickly.

00:58:54.000 And so hence we have an obvious response for the Russians after what Joe Biden came out with last week.

00:59:02.000 This is the response.

00:59:04.000 It always disturbs me when people in D.C. or in the defense establishment or on Twitter or I guess on Blue Sky now...

00:59:11.000 When they're very cavalier about the risk of this blowing up.

00:59:15.000 It would be irrational for Russia to do something.

00:59:19.000 Everyone's 100% rational.

00:59:21.000 Do we have to go to Blue Sky now to see war response?

00:59:25.000 I'll have to see if Vinbin is on Blue Sky doing deranged fat person stuff.

00:59:30.000 Jack Posobiec has to have a Blue Sky account just to follow what the warmongers are doing.

00:59:38.000 Oh, we should have done that.

00:59:39.000 We should have set up that.

00:59:40.000 I'll put an Anon on it.

00:59:42.000 We should have had Charlie create a Blue Sky account and then at the start of the segment...

00:59:46.000 Jack has an Anon.

00:59:48.000 We should have created a Blue... 1.00

00:59:49.000 Wait, wait, wait.

00:59:50.000 Jack has an Anon account?

00:59:51.000 Wait, wait, Tyler.

00:59:52.000 What makes you think I don't have Anon accounts on Blue Sky already?

00:59:55.000 Sorry, go ahead, Blake.

00:59:57.000 I was saying we should have had Charlie create a Blue Sky account and then we should have had to make one post, which is that like only, you know, like trans women are men or something and just see how long it would take him to get banned.

01:00:08.000 Let me tell you a story about Charlie Kirk.

01:00:10.000 I've watched Charlie.

01:00:11.000 One of our earliest campus things that we did was we were trying to flip the student government at University of Oregon, his pride and joy.

01:00:19.000 And Charlie was, this was early in the days before it was like everyone in the world knew who Charlie was.

01:00:25.000 And he was bobbing up and down, walking through the campus like campaigning.

01:00:28.000 And he got exposed like within five minutes.

01:00:30.000 It was like not even close.

01:00:32.000 This was like five seconds.

01:00:34.000 That would be Charlie Kirk's, you know, his entire blue sky situation.

01:00:40.000 Exposure.

01:00:41.000 It would be not even within a few minutes.

01:00:43.000 Holy cow. 0.89

01:00:45.000 This is what Vindman is saying over on Blue Sky.

01:00:47.000 One of the funny things about Blue Sky that I forgot to mention with Charlie is you'll totally see libs who think this is our secret clubhouse where we can just say things and no one will know.

01:00:58.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:00:59.000 For all I know, Vindman also tweeted this.

01:01:00.000 That's why we need Jack.

01:01:01.000 It's funnier to have Jack on there as an Anon because the Jack Anon account on there just tracking and responding.

01:01:09.000 Yeah.

01:01:10.000 Yeah, basically like a trans-dem. 0.92

01:01:13.000 But anyway, Alex Vindman, right below his post saying, five years ago today, I justified in Congress heroically against Trump.

01:01:20.000 He says that Biden lifting the restrictions on the long-range missiles so we can, you know, lob rockets at Kursk is not a big deal, especially as Trump will likely cut support.

01:01:30.000 The most meaningful action Biden can take is to push as many resources as possible before January 20th.

01:01:36.000 Empty the stores.

01:01:38.000 Send everything.

01:01:40.000 Every single weapon the U.S. has.

01:01:42.000 It's all going to Tiny Man in Kiev.

01:01:45.000 He's getting all of it.

01:01:46.000 Obviously a bad idea.

01:01:48.000 It's truly insane.

01:01:50.000 The thought experiment I like to tell people to do is think of the most deranged warmonger you've ever met if you're in D.C. or if you've been out in the political world. 0.97

01:02:02.000 There are those lunatics who are like, We should do a nuclear first strike because they can't hit us back. 0.86

01:02:06.000 There are people who think that way. 0.97

01:02:08.000 Russia has those people too.

01:02:10.000 Probably more of them.

01:02:12.000 A large share of Russians are inebriated on cheap, distilled spirits at all times.

01:02:19.000 And there are people in Russia who think we're the biggest country in the world.

01:02:26.000 We can survive anything.

01:02:28.000 We can beat America. 0.99

01:02:29.000 Americans are weak. 0.99

01:02:30.000 They won't be able to shoot back. 1.00

01:02:32.000 They're lame. 1.00

01:02:34.000 They're pathetic. 1.00

01:02:34.000 There are people who think that way. 1.00

01:02:36.000 And All these people are like, we need regime change in Russia to get rid of Putin, who is Hitler.

01:02:41.000 It is very bold to assume the person who would replace Putin if you took him out now would be more hinged than Putin is.

01:02:50.000 He could easily be substantially less hinged than Putin could be.

01:02:54.000 And they are just very quietly doing this because it's out of the news cycle.

01:02:59.000 We're having more coverage on the transition.

01:03:01.000 We're having less coverage on politics generally.

01:03:03.000 A lot of people are tuning out.

01:03:05.000 But there are these tedious, obsessed people like Mr. Vindman and his weird wife and his weird relatives who just they want war forever.

01:03:16.000 And they'll do their best to hand off as big a war as possible to Trump because we know Trump's disposition.

01:03:22.000 He doesn't like to start wars, but he also doesn't want to like take a loss or seem like he's weak.

01:03:28.000 So I think they may even realize if we can make this war as big as possible, Trump will feel somewhat committed to the status quo because he can't come in and immediately look weak by scaling things back.

01:03:41.000 It's very sinister what they're doing, and it's very dark to think of how many thousands of people are going to die because these lunatics are worked up about stuff they read on Blue Sky to think that, oh, we need to send every single weapon in the U.S. arsenal to this kind of failed state in Eastern Europe. 0.79

01:04:00.000 Makes me feel nuts.

01:04:02.000 No, it's completely nuts, but at the same time, we have to remember that Like you say, they have been using these weapons for a long time, these hypersonic missiles, by the way, which what was really interesting was I was talking on Human Events earlier today about IOC dates, and so that's initial operational capability.

01:04:22.000 And so the fact that Russia did use a hypersonic glide vehicle, it seems, I should say, hypersonic vehicle.

01:04:30.000 We don't know if it was actually glide or not.

01:04:32.000 That this was the idea being is that this is a medium range ballistic missile or even intermediate range, not intercontinental ballistic missile, which have never been used before, by the way, in a combat situation between two countries, even though a lot of ICBMs.

01:04:46.000 So like they are also dual use in terms of the space program because that's literally how powerful they are.

01:04:53.000 So a lot of the Elon Musk stuff that you're seeing, the Starship and some of those launchers, they can even, you know, the Falcon Heavy and different stuff.

01:04:59.000 They could potentially also be used as an ICBM. And as people know the original history of the space program, that's actually how the rockets, the V2 and the Saturn V, etc.

01:05:13.000 were created, were part of a war effort.

01:05:16.000 We don't have time to go down that entire rabbit hole right now, project paperclip.

01:05:21.000 Point being is, the United States apparently had been monitoring these hypersonics, but didn't actually know that it was ready to go yet because they said, well, wait a minute, the Russians haven't actually tested this thing, so we don't know if it can actually work.

01:05:33.000 And Putin said in his video, he said, look, this was the operational test of the hypersonic missile.

01:05:41.000 And it passed with flying colors.

01:05:43.000 So even he kind of admitted that they hadn't done the testing on it.

01:05:46.000 And this was an operational missile, but something that was being intended to, you know, send a message, et cetera, et cetera, to the West to say, basically, look, you know, either either we can do peace or if you want a war, we'll give you a much wider war.

01:06:00.000 And a lot of the hardliners look, here's the thing, too.

01:06:03.000 And Tyler, you kind of you kind of mentioned it, Blake, you mentioned it, where a lot of the hardliners in Russia right now are saying, wait, why should we take peace when we're winning?

01:06:09.000 Why should we take a peace deal when the U.S. just said they're not going to give the Ukrainians any more dollar bills?

01:06:13.000 Why don't we just take all the rest of the territory from the border of Ukraine all the way out to the Znepra River, maybe even Odessa?

01:06:21.000 Why not?

01:06:21.000 So the hardliners are sitting there saying, don't take the deal, keep going.

01:06:26.000 That's the real danger.

01:06:28.000 Yeah, I mean, look, here's one thing I know about the Russian people.

01:06:32.000 They are fully behind Putin.

01:06:34.000 They are 100%, 1,000% dedicated to Putin.

01:06:39.000 The entire country trusts his judgment and their strategy of what they're trying to do.

01:06:44.000 I mean, and look, to this point, and again, I don't want to get too deeply into this and start a debate and all of this.

01:06:51.000 This is just observational from what I've heard from my Russian friends that I still have over there and even Ukrainian friends that are over there.

01:07:01.000 Russia's been very clear about what they want.

01:07:03.000 They want a specific piece of Ukraine.

01:07:07.000 They have continued to just pummel that specific piece of Ukraine.

01:07:12.000 And, you know, they've kept everything else pretty darn stable with how they've interacted with the rest of the world.

01:07:19.000 They've kept everything pretty stable with other bordering countries that they've had.

01:07:26.000 And this is like, they're not, I just, I don't see them unrelenting without some kind of, you know, peace brokering that's going to come from only a guy like Donald Trump at this point.

01:07:40.000 And, you know, they're going to probably want, you know, the U.S. to go to the table for some of their interests.

01:07:48.000 And, you know, whether or not the U.S. has any interest in doing that, that's going to be, you know, a art of the deal type of a thing.

01:07:57.000 I think there's going to be a lot to gain.

01:07:59.000 in this future Trump presidency, both in the Middle East and with Turkey and with so many other things that we've discussed before.

01:08:05.000 But, you know, I have significant trust that the president's going to be able to have the wherewithal to come out with a good deal that's best for us and probably deescalate where we're going.

01:08:19.000 But what Biden's doing right now is clearly not going to help.

01:08:22.000 It's going to escalate.

01:08:23.000 We're getting nothing out of it.

01:08:25.000 In fact, it's costing us billions of dollars.

01:08:27.000 Yeah.

01:08:28.000 If we had elected Joe Biden for another four or Kamala Harris, Kamala Biden for another four years, it would have been it would have cost us It would have bankrupt the country.

01:08:37.000 We would have probably spun into massive debt and not to mention probably entered into World War III. And so I'm just very bullish on the outcomes here.

01:08:45.000 I think that it's going to be a very positive outcome that's going to hopefully de-escalate, save lives.

01:08:50.000 And, you know, that may mean that, you know, Russia has a little bit more influence over Ukraine, which they always have basically anyways, you know.

01:08:59.000 Now they're just continuing to add to the rubble by, you know, providing more weapons to throw at Russia and forcing Russia to respond even more where they're trying to...

01:09:09.000 You know, Russia ultimately wants to rebuild some of these places that they want to control.

01:09:13.000 So, you know, prolonging that doesn't seem like the best move for the people of Ukraine, doesn't seem like the best move for the people of Eastern Europe, and certainly not for us as Americans who pay for all this.

01:09:25.000 Or I guess we don't really pay for it.

01:09:27.000 It's made up money.

01:09:29.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:09:30.000 All right, guys.

01:09:31.000 Well, I think that's about the time.

01:09:33.000 We could go in and debate that forever, but shout out your socials and lets people know where to follow you.

01:09:40.000 Yeah, you can follow me at Tyler Boyer.

01:09:42.000 And you can't follow me anywhere because social media is bad.

01:09:47.000 Blake is a TikTok star.

01:09:49.000 Don't let him get away with that one, folks.

01:09:51.000 Blake has got a massive TikTok addiction.

01:09:54.000 Whatever.

01:09:54.000 No, a girl messaged me this week on Instagram, I think.

01:09:59.000 I was like, hey, is Blake available?

01:10:01.000 And I said, I don't know.

01:10:03.000 DM him.

01:10:04.000 Whoa! 0.71

01:10:04.000 I said slide into his DMs. 0.71

01:10:06.000 Whoa! 0.71

01:10:06.000 Non-existent DMs. 0.71

01:10:08.000 It's not possible.

01:10:09.000 They can't find me.

01:10:10.000 Got to go through one of the gatekeepers.

01:10:12.000 All right, guys.

01:10:14.000 So that has been this week's Thought Crime Thursday.

01:10:17.000 And remember, go out there and commit more thought crimes.

01:10:20.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

01:10:21.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:10:24.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

The Charlie Kirk Show - November 23, 2024

THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 63 — Matt Gaetz’s Future? Jussie Smollett’s Jailbreak? War Fever with Russia?

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