The Charlie Kirk Show - December 07, 2024


THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 65 — CEO Assassins? Best Christmas Movies?


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On this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show, Jack and Jack are joined by special guest Blake Neff and special guest Matthew Martinez of Chase the Vote to discuss the assassination of Andrew Goodman and the events that led to his death.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:00:01.000 Thought crime, but I'm not there!
00:00:03.000 I actually missed this one.
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00:01:36.000 Alright, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another edition of Thought Prime Thursday.
00:01:42.000 I'm here, Jack Posobiec, coming to you remote this evening.
00:01:47.000 I'm down here in Palm Beach, Florida.
00:01:51.000 I've been conducting a number of We're not actually sure
00:02:22.000 if Charlie is going to be joining us.
00:02:23.000 He was supposed to be here, but he may be flying in if he's able to do so.
00:02:28.000 But do not worry, do not fear, because we've got a fantastic thought crime lineup for you tonight and a list of fascinating and wonderful crimes of thought to commit.
00:02:40.000 And joining us as well is Blake Neff.
00:02:42.000 What's up, Blake?
00:02:43.000 Howdy, Jack.
00:02:44.000 Good to have you.
00:02:45.000 You look like you are inside the sun right now, but I'm sure it's all for the best.
00:02:51.000 I've got like a light.
00:02:54.000 I've got like a light on my thing.
00:02:55.000 I could turn it down.
00:02:56.000 Am I still inside the sun?
00:02:58.000 You're still somewhat inside the sun.
00:03:00.000 As opposed to you, who looks like you've never seen the sun.
00:03:02.000 Yeah, you know, it's just part of the color, as it were, or the lack of color, we might say.
00:03:08.000 We have a special guest today because I think Andrew's on a plane, and I think Tyler was like, I have to help some Republicans or some lame excuse like that.
00:03:18.000 Whatever.
00:03:19.000 We have one of the men who made our victory in this election possible.
00:03:22.000 This is Matthew Martinez.
00:03:24.000 He is with Chase the Vote over at Turning Point Action.
00:03:28.000 That's right.
00:03:28.000 I would visit him every day before the election.
00:03:31.000 I would go in and I would say, are we going to win?
00:03:33.000 And he would be like, 110% Blake, we're going to win.
00:03:36.000 And look at what happened.
00:03:37.000 And we won.
00:03:38.000 So if we'd lost, we might have thrown him off the building.
00:03:40.000 But we won so he doesn't have to get thrown off the building.
00:03:44.000 And instead, he's the hero.
00:03:45.000 That's the stakes of winning and losing.
00:03:47.000 Thanks, Blake.
00:03:48.000 Thanks for the introduction.
00:03:49.000 And you know what?
00:03:50.000 I do have a little bit more sun.
00:03:52.000 We're calling here a sunny Phoenix, Arizona.
00:03:56.000 Spent a lot of time outside of my life.
00:03:59.000 And actually, before I got into politics, I actually did a lot of AC work on roofs and attics, right?
00:04:07.000 So I spent a lot of sun.
00:04:08.000 So that gave me a little bit more of my complexion.
00:04:11.000 Right, being here in Arizona.
00:04:13.000 But, yeah, welcome.
00:04:15.000 Thanks for having me on the show.
00:04:16.000 Of course, of course.
00:04:17.000 Thank you.
00:04:17.000 Thank you for stepping in.
00:04:19.000 Well, the first topic we have, I think we were all in agreement we had to hit this.
00:04:24.000 We have armed lunatics murdering CEOs in the streets of America. 0.52
00:04:31.000 Right.
00:04:35.000 Yep.
00:04:39.000 of New York, but that's kind of selling it short.
00:04:41.000 He was basically assassinated.
00:04:44.000 Yeah.
00:04:44.000 A guy came up, pulled a suppressed pistol, shot him, made a planned getaway, it seems.
00:04:51.000 Yep.
00:04:51.000 It seems police are closing in.
00:04:53.000 They have a photo of him.
00:04:55.000 They seem to even know where the suspect, kind of how he traveled up to...
00:04:59.000 Central Park.
00:05:00.000 Yeah, he traveled there on a bus from Atlanta by the sounds of it.
00:05:04.000 Now, they haven't released a name for the person, so my guess is maybe they were able to use security...
00:05:10.000 Have they released a name?
00:05:11.000 Yeah, I mean, I have to imagine they have a name by now.
00:05:14.000 If you've got that much information, you know which bus he took, you know which – they're talking about the hostel that he stayed at.
00:05:20.000 They have that.
00:05:21.000 The bicycle he took, too.
00:05:23.000 Well, I guess – I'm sure they would.
00:05:25.000 I guarantee they would.
00:05:27.000 I'm surprised they wouldn't give out the name then so people could ask for information potentially like if they know who they're looking for but I guess now that I think about it they don't seem to do that in a lot of other cases.
00:05:39.000 One of the things was that apparently the guy was traveling with a fake ID so it could be that the The name they currently have is the fake name that he used to check into the hostel.
00:05:51.000 And then if he was traveling on the bus, then potentially, yeah, he wouldn't need, you know, wouldn't really need to buy a ticket in name if you paid cash, if you did it in a smart way.
00:06:02.000 So it's possible that they have a name, but it's just a fake name and they're just kind of, you know, whittling down.
00:06:08.000 I mean, either way, here's what I want to say.
00:06:10.000 So I understand we probably can't, can we play the video or, you know, we're on Rumble, right?
00:06:15.000 I don't know if that's, If that's doable or not.
00:06:19.000 But the question is, though, the first thing I want to say is that when this video first dropped, I remember it was going viral.
00:06:27.000 People were looking at it.
00:06:28.000 Charlie was looking at it.
00:06:29.000 He was asking me about it.
00:06:30.000 And people kept saying, oh, this thing is so professional.
00:06:33.000 It's a professional hit.
00:06:34.000 This is the real deal.
00:06:36.000 This is what it really looks like.
00:06:37.000 And I remember watching it going, this is a joke.
00:06:39.000 This guy's a LARPer.
00:06:41.000 This is a guy who's just like, watch too many Liam I mean, this is just despicable stuff.
00:07:04.000 Just straight up despicable, evil, disgusting stuff.
00:07:09.000 I've stayed at that hotel.
00:07:10.000 You know, this is the Midtown Hilton.
00:07:13.000 This is where Trump had his first victory speech in 2016. This is where Trump's victory party was.
00:07:20.000 It was the same.
00:07:20.000 If it's the same Midtown Hilton, which I think it is, this is where Trump held his 2016 victory, was in that very same hotel.
00:07:29.000 I was there then.
00:07:30.000 I remember at one point standing right there as Trump was walking in down that very same sidewalk.
00:07:38.000 One was that November 3rd of 2016, and we were still on the 4th, you know, at like 3 in the morning, and I'm walking by, and I watched, there was a firetruck there, and I watched John Podesta's speech, like, on this, like, little TV that was in the side of the firetruck, and, sorry, yeah, no, I mean, it doesn't, it's not connected to what happened, it's just my memory of that sidewalk, that very same stretch of sidewalk is so vivid, and then to think that there was this murder situation, That took place there was crazy.
00:08:08.000 Blake, there's another piece of it where we also apparently found out how it is that this guy slipped his mask.
00:08:16.000 Oh, yeah.
00:08:17.000 So just breaking now, we were seeing this.
00:08:21.000 We have a photo of the shooter where his mask is down.
00:08:24.000 And apparently the way they got this was a woman was flirting with him at the hostel that he stayed in.
00:08:31.000 I called it.
00:08:31.000 I called it.
00:08:32.000 And asked him to pull down his mask while she was flirting with him. 1.00
00:08:36.000 And then you can see there he's got his mask pulled down and is smiling at her.
00:08:41.000 He's got that mac and face.
00:08:42.000 He's got that face like a mac and face.
00:08:44.000 You know, I'm something of an assassin myself.
00:08:48.000 You can see it!
00:08:50.000 A pure hideous incel shooter would have never made that mistake. 0.99
00:08:56.000 He would still be on the run, no clues left behind.
00:09:01.000 And so there were some clues that were left behind and this was, you know, apparently was done.
00:09:08.000 So I remember one of the first things I said was, you know, why leave shells?
00:09:11.000 You're leaving shell casings everywhere.
00:09:13.000 They're going to be able to identify the gun.
00:09:15.000 And it turns out that the shell casings were left on purpose with a sort of message.
00:09:21.000 Do you have that?
00:09:23.000 I don't know if we have photos of it, but the actual words were...
00:09:26.000 It was delay, defend, and depose.
00:09:30.000 I think depose is probably referring to, like, depositions that you would do in a legal case.
00:09:35.000 And so that gets into the second part of this, which is so interesting, is he was...
00:09:40.000 He's a health insurance CEO. Health insurance companies are not super popular in America because they're the ones you have to interact with in our very expensive healthcare system...
00:09:52.000 Healthcare costs a lot.
00:09:53.000 They sometimes deny claims or contest claims.
00:09:56.000 And the claim is especially that this company in particular, allegedly, is maybe more aggressive in contesting claims.
00:10:04.000 And so what you have on the internet, if you check Twitter or if you check the liberal haven of blue sky, you have people just overtly celebrating this murder.
00:10:12.000 They're saying, this is great.
00:10:14.000 He got what he deserved.
00:10:15.000 I hope this guy makes it out.
00:10:17.000 Those words apparently are reference to a title of a book, right?
00:10:22.000 This book that was written, Jay Fineman, Delay, Deny, Defend, which is exactly what you're talking about.
00:10:30.000 It's a book that was written about insurance companies who don't pay the claims, what you can do about it.
00:10:36.000 So it was this whole, like...
00:10:38.000 Famous, you know, in those circles, you know, cut up of the insurance agency.
00:10:43.000 A real grievance, by the way.
00:10:44.000 A true grievance.
00:10:45.000 I'm not saying it's not a true grievance.
00:10:47.000 But apparently the words on the bullet casings were a direct reference to this book, you know, that was anti-insurance companies.
00:10:57.000 Yeah, precisely.
00:10:59.000 And so it's a valid critique to say that these companies deny too many claims, but it's very dark that you're seeing this pivot towards people just overtly celebrating what is an appalling murder in the streets.
00:11:16.000 And I'll be honest, I'm a little upset.
00:11:20.000 I think even on the right, I don't see people quite as...
00:11:24.000 opposed to this as they should be you're young you might have a good you know do i feel like there's a lot of pro there's a lot of sympathy towards like underdogs however defined even if they're criminals sure or just this sort of chaotic element among young people where they think america's a scam or america is rigged and it makes them inclined to cheer for people who are violent criminals it depends on the side of my generation right for these younger people amongst students
00:11:53.000 if you're attending all these woke colleges they're probably going to be parading a little bit more about this shooting unfortunately Sickening.
00:12:01.000 It really is.
00:12:01.000 It's a gross mindset to have.
00:12:04.000 And this is, it could be anybody, right?
00:12:06.000 These are the same people that were parading when President Trump got shot, right?
00:12:11.000 They were just all excited, right?
00:12:13.000 This is disgusting.
00:12:15.000 These are also the same people who are against all these gun control, or for all these gun control people.
00:12:21.000 So it doesn't make any sense.
00:12:22.000 It's an oxymoron, frankly, amongst these people.
00:12:26.000 But there's also another factor, or I guess, set of people my age who are...
00:12:34.000 Recognizing what's going on, right?
00:12:35.000 And they're seeing that this is sickening regardless of political size or whomever it is, even if it's the most – although he is the CEO of the eighth largest company in the world, I believe.
00:12:49.000 Maybe the eighth largest health?
00:12:50.000 Health, yeah, something like that.
00:12:51.000 It's probably not the eighth largest overall.
00:12:53.000 Now, I don't know.
00:12:53.000 I don't know my company's – But regardless, even if the Robin Hood idea, right, what we care about, and a lot of my generation, is justice.
00:13:04.000 I think my generation is probably one of the largest, has this mindset of justice needs to be served with whomever, right?
00:13:14.000 That's why you see my generation protest at the drop of a pen sometimes, right?
00:13:19.000 Because they want to see justice, right?
00:13:21.000 So it is, we're seeing a mix in my generation, but I have also seen some things, too.
00:13:29.000 I think I saw it on Blue Skies, the Democrat little organization, the Twitter of Democrats.
00:13:37.000 Democrats and pedophiles. 0.50
00:13:39.000 Those are the two groups on Blue Sky.
00:13:42.000 Make sure to say right there, maps.
00:13:45.000 Minor attracted persons, Blake.
00:13:47.000 We don't want you mis- What do you even call it?
00:13:52.000 Misorienting.
00:13:53.000 Misorienting the pedos.
00:13:56.000 No, we can't have that.
00:13:57.000 This is thought crime after all.
00:13:58.000 This is a very classy production.
00:14:00.000 No, but here's the thing.
00:14:02.000 With what's going on, this is...
00:14:03.000 So, Blake, you and I did Chronicles of the Revolution last year, the podcast series, which then we turned into the book Unhumans, The Secret History of Communist Revolutions and How to Crush Them.
00:14:15.000 And this is specifically...
00:14:16.000 Specifically, the ideology that we wrote about in the book with Joshua Lysette came in and was the co-author of it.
00:14:23.000 And we talked exactly about the ideology of communists and how this stuff spreads.
00:14:29.000 They take grievances, and then they decide that they can just kill, maim, steal anyone who is on the other side of the grievance, whether perceived or not, right?
00:14:41.000 So either a perceived false grievance or a real grievance.
00:14:44.000 And sure, these are real grievances.
00:14:45.000 I'm not saying they're not.
00:14:46.000 We've all had all sorts of issues with health insurance companies.
00:14:50.000 But that doesn't mean you can just pick up a gun and go start murdering people on the street.
00:14:54.000 And the problem is that when I see conservatives going in and saying, oh, yeah, you know, take it to the elites, you know, take it to take it to the man, et cetera.
00:15:03.000 Guess what?
00:15:04.000 They view you as the man too.
00:15:06.000 They view you and Donald Trump and your family and anyone else as this because they see you as unhuman.
00:15:13.000 They see you as an invasive species.
00:15:16.000 They see you as standing in the way of their utopia.
00:15:19.000 And ultimately...
00:15:21.000 It's not about justice and social justice and equity and all these fancy window dressing words that they use to kind of, you know, church it up, to try to dress it up.
00:15:31.000 No, it's about envy.
00:15:32.000 It's about grievance.
00:15:34.000 It's about petty resentment and hatred.
00:15:37.000 And so rather than do something to fix the situation, they just want to rob, kill, and destroy I hate to say it, but we took a lot of crap when we put that book out and it did very, very well.
00:16:01.000 And look, we saw this coming and it actually doesn't surprise me at all.
00:16:07.000 And Taylor Lorenz, by the way, is someone else who she posted, I don't know what they call them on Blue Sky, but she made a post on Blue Sky where she was saying that, oh, and they wonder why we want to kill healthcare CEOs.
00:16:20.000 The day after, I guess the day of, an assassination, cold blood like this, And so, people saying, wait a minute, isn't this Miss, you know, COVIDian Taylor Lorenz?
00:16:33.000 And she's so, so worried about COVID, and she spent months planning this, like, book launch, so it would be COVID-friendly and COVID-safe.
00:16:41.000 And we'll say, wait a minute, how could she be so worried about that and about getting one person's Again, it's because they don't view you as human.
00:16:53.000 They view you as something that is sub, something that is lesser, and they want you out of the way.
00:17:00.000 And their reasons for it at that point actually don't matter because they will condone any level of violence in order to achieve their ends.
00:17:09.000 This is all based in resentment.
00:17:10.000 And by the way, it's the same thing that's been going back since the French Revolution.
00:17:14.000 Yeah, you mentioned the Taylor Lorenz thing.
00:17:18.000 I think we should highlight what she actually said since a lot of people can't actually see it.
00:17:22.000 So, like, first, right after this happened, there was a news story with a separate healthcare company, Blue Cross Blue Shield.
00:17:29.000 There was a dispute.
00:17:31.000 I don't know the full details on it, but I guess Blue Cross was saying they were not going to pay for, like, the full cost of anesthesia in some surgeries.
00:17:40.000 And they backtracked on this because there was a lot of backlash to it.
00:17:44.000 All I would say is I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out there's like scumbag doctors out there who keep you under too long because then they can bilk, insure.
00:17:53.000 There's a shocking amount of medical fraud in America.
00:17:56.000 But whatever that case, even if they're really bad.
00:17:59.000 And she replies to this.
00:18:00.000 This is right after the shooting.
00:18:01.000 And people wonder why we want these executives dead.
00:18:04.000 And then she does various tweets.
00:18:07.000 She like does all these various other posts on Blue Sky. 0.99
00:18:13.000 Where someone said, like, you're posting your own sentiment.
00:18:16.000 She tries to backtrack later.
00:18:17.000 He says, don't backtrack.
00:18:19.000 People shouldn't celebrate murder.
00:18:21.000 And she replies, murder?
00:18:22.000 Like what happens every year to thousands of innocent Americans killed by greedy insurance executives denying their coverage?
00:18:32.000 You should probably understand this, because Taylor Lorenz is approximately your age, I believe.
00:18:37.000 She's somewhere between 18 and 50. These people are the same people who say, eat the rich.
00:18:43.000 They've been saying this for many, many, many years, and it's been subliminal.
00:18:47.000 This is absolutely subliminal.
00:18:49.000 So when you have that same mindset, that same campaign, Of attack the rich, eat the rich, despise those who make more, right?
00:18:59.000 It's going to cause motivation.
00:19:01.000 And this is what we're seeing in New York.
00:19:03.000 This is what happened just a few days ago.
00:19:06.000 Yeah, and what I... Hey, do you remember that movie Parasite?
00:19:10.000 Oh, the Korean movie?
00:19:11.000 Did you ever see that movie Parasite, the Korean movie, years ago?
00:19:14.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:19:15.000 So that movie, and it won like, it won an Academy Award or something.
00:19:20.000 And that was a movie where the left was loving this thing.
00:19:24.000 They thought it was so wonderful.
00:19:25.000 It was like, oh, it's this great, you know, this great, you know, this great film, blah, blah, blah.
00:19:32.000 And that's exactly what it was about.
00:19:36.000 It was about a group of people who go to work for a family.
00:19:42.000 And yeah, it won Best Picture at the Academy Awards.
00:19:46.000 So it won the Oscar for Best Picture, Best Director, Best Original Screenplay, Best International Feature Film.
00:19:52.000 It won a ton of things.
00:19:53.000 And it was the first non-English film to win the Best Picture at the Academy Award.
00:19:59.000 So the first foreign film to win a non-English foreign film to win the Academy Award for Best Picture, this movie Parasite.
00:20:08.000 And what was it about?
00:20:09.000 It was about a family...
00:20:12.000 That essentially hires a rich family that hires a working class family to go and work for them. 0.77
00:20:17.000 And the working class family eventually just murders everyone in the rich family and ruins their lives. 1.00
00:20:23.000 And the rich family doesn't actually do anything wrong to the working class family, but we're told that the working class family are the heroes because they rose up and killed the rich people who hired them.
00:20:39.000 And I remember sitting watching this movie, getting all these accolades saying, what's going on?
00:20:43.000 Why are we supposed to hate these people who, okay, yeah, sure, they maybe they have this, you know, privileged life in terms of wealth and in terms of, you know, how well they've done for themselves in their lives.
00:20:57.000 And yet they, you know, they don't really get into how hard they worked or any of the sacrifices they had to make to be able to get to that level, et cetera.
00:21:04.000 We're just told that you're supposed to hate them because they're rich.
00:21:08.000 And therefore, the working class family is justified in killing the rich family because of the wealth disparity. 0.97
00:21:17.000 And it was crazy.
00:21:18.000 And this won the Academy Award literally like five years ago.
00:21:23.000 And I remember sitting there watching this going, why is nobody else talking You're right, it's this eat the rich mentality, and yet it's totally been mainstreamed.
00:21:31.000 Yeah, I mean, even I'm looking at our comments on the stream and, you know, we have purple daffodil saying it's like when people aren't sad when child murderers get murdered in prison.
00:21:42.000 Well, okay, but a guy who runs an insurance company is not a child murderer.
00:21:49.000 They are a person who runs a controversial business and that may require a policy action.
00:21:56.000 But what I've been warning, because I've I've talked to people relatively on our side who didn't care about this, were blasé about it, thought, oh, it seems like this guy deserves it.
00:22:05.000 And all I have to say is the people who are defending this would defend any other like unfamous white guy CEO getting shot.
00:22:16.000 They would find a reason to justify it.
00:22:18.000 They'd say he pays a low wage.
00:22:21.000 He doesn't pay workers enough.
00:22:22.000 There was a sexual harassment lawsuit at his company.
00:22:25.000 His company is racist.
00:22:26.000 They don't hire enough.
00:22:27.000 They would find the outsources to this or that country.
00:22:31.000 That's bad.
00:22:32.000 They would find a reason to hate this person because what this is really rooted in is a fundamental resentment.
00:22:39.000 They are they're basically happy that a white male CEO got shot.
00:22:46.000 And they would find a reason to celebrate this because white male not famous CEO is a Kulak class. 0.98
00:22:54.000 To reference that, if you're familiar with it, the Kulaks, we've talked about it on the show, they were the targets of the Bolsheviks.
00:23:01.000 It was like the prosperous peasants of early Soviet Russia.
00:23:05.000 And that's kind of what...
00:23:12.000 wants to expropriate and it's they're not just focused on billionaires they're very much focused on anyone who owns a company is the head of a company is conventionally successful in america who doesn't entire who isn't entirely subsumed into this left-wing apparatus uh purple daffodils He says it has nothing to do with him being a white male.
00:23:37.000 Well, yes, it does.
00:23:38.000 It absolutely does for a lot of them.
00:23:40.000 It really does.
00:23:40.000 Maybe not you specifically, but for the bulk of people celebrating this, absolutely.
00:23:45.000 Absolutely.
00:23:46.000 And I'm not seeing the chat.
00:23:48.000 I don't have it up.
00:23:48.000 But look, here's the issue, right?
00:23:51.000 If you think, oh, it's not that big of a deal, it was just this one guy.
00:23:55.000 Well, guess what?
00:23:56.000 Guess what?
00:23:57.000 If you don't crack down on things like this, guess who they're going to come for next?
00:24:01.000 And they're going to keep going.
00:24:03.000 And then they'll go for, what else?
00:24:07.000 The Trump family?
00:24:08.000 They've already taken, what, two shots at Donald Trump or, you know, the guy tried to over here in West Palm a couple of weeks.
00:24:14.000 Literally, a couple of weeks ago, Donald Trump almost was killed.
00:24:19.000 And then a couple weeks before that, his head was almost blown off on stage.
00:24:24.000 Do you think, oh, he deserved that too?
00:24:26.000 No, you have to crack down on this stuff in every single instance that it takes place, because if you ever open it up, it doesn't stop.
00:24:35.000 And you hear this all the time.
00:24:36.000 I hear people on the right, they say, oh, you know, they'll say the Romanov family, well, they deserved it. 1.00
00:24:41.000 You know, they did World War I, and that was stupid. 0.86
00:24:43.000 And, you know, the Tsar was committing troops against the Kaiser, and it was, you know, it was just really bad.
00:24:49.000 You know, who cares?
00:24:50.000 And he forced people to be serfs, even though serfdom had actually already been outlawed at that point.
00:24:56.000 But they'll just go in on all this stuff and will never actually consider the consequences of where it leads.
00:25:02.000 It always leads to piles of skulls.
00:25:05.000 And guess what?
00:25:06.000 You think, oh, I'm cool.
00:25:08.000 I supported it.
00:25:09.000 I went in on your little, you know, anti-elite venture.
00:25:12.000 Well, guess what?
00:25:13.000 That's not going to save you when you get lined up in the trench with your family and you get the muzzle of the gun pointed at the back of your head.
00:25:22.000 Sorry, oh, well, you know, it's just another white CEO. No, like, you really need to stop and you really need to wake up and grow up right now because this stuff is incredibly serious. 0.85
00:25:35.000 Yeah, it's just...
00:25:36.000 And another thing pointed out is just...
00:25:39.000 Someone says it's just surprising the guy didn't have security.
00:25:43.000 And I would like to fight back against that, too.
00:25:46.000 I don't think we should consider it normal for everyone in America.
00:25:50.000 They did say apparently that there had been some, like...
00:25:54.000 I don't know all the details yet because it's still shaking out.
00:25:56.000 We're in the fog of crime on this.
00:25:58.000 But they said that he did actually have home security because I think there had been some threatening messages or something that had come out.
00:26:07.000 And so he had home security, but for some reason they weren't with him at this hotel.
00:26:12.000 Even then, I don't want us to turn into South Africa, where every person who has a net worth over a million dollars needs a special, dedicated, full-time, private security person.
00:26:23.000 I think that's deranged.
00:26:25.000 I don't think that's a good way to live.
00:26:27.000 And as I've warned people, if that is the way of life people end up having to live in, that is what will make people pro-gun control.
00:26:32.000 If they feel, I need to be armed at all times because it is...
00:26:37.000 Constant threat of violence against me.
00:26:40.000 That is what is going to make people say, screw it, police state, take away everyone's guns.
00:26:46.000 It's not good if tons of people are living in constant terror that they will be assassinated.
00:26:52.000 That is a path of decline.
00:26:57.000 I think we're all in agreement on this, but I would encourage everyone who's watching who disagrees to change their minds.
00:27:04.000 Because...
00:27:06.000 What else are they saying?
00:27:08.000 What else are the disagreeers saying?
00:27:11.000 I like that we can respond to the comments today.
00:27:14.000 Obviously, a lot of people are...
00:27:15.000 Yeah, we're live, by the way, so if you want to comment, please do.
00:27:19.000 Just a lot of people are saying insurers ruin people's lives.
00:27:23.000 What I will also say here...
00:27:24.000 Okay, I'm not...
00:27:25.000 It feels awkward to do this, but...
00:27:28.000 Within the grand scheme of the American healthcare system, insurers are the meat shield.
00:27:35.000 They exist to take the hate of everyone for a system that is created by a lot of people.
00:27:43.000 Like...
00:27:44.000 Hospitals inflate healthcare costs.
00:27:46.000 Doctors inflate healthcare costs.
00:27:48.000 The government inflates healthcare costs.
00:27:50.000 Pharmaceutical companies inflate healthcare costs.
00:27:53.000 Everyone inflates healthcare costs.
00:27:55.000 And if you completely got rid of the cut taken by insurance companies, took them out of the picture, and we just imagined...
00:28:04.000 There was a 0% profit on all health insurance, and that was what it was.
00:28:08.000 We would still have the most expensive healthcare system in the world, and all those procedures that you want to get would still be monstrously expensive.
00:28:15.000 And it's not that healthcare insurance companies are always great, because they do have this sinister incentive to try to deny care when they can, but...
00:28:26.000 The system itself is enormously messed up, and you would still be having to pay way too much for tons of procedures if the insurance companies didn't exist.
00:28:36.000 And I think people are afraid to confront this because they want to imagine that the American healthcare system is easy to fix.
00:28:44.000 And unfortunately, it's such a calamity that it is almost impossible to fix.
00:28:49.000 It would be like popping the world's largest tumor or something.
00:28:55.000 Can you pop a tumor?
00:28:57.000 I guess I'll just say, look, this came up when we were doing the Unhumans book so many times, and you see communists and far leftists.
00:29:07.000 It's using actual grievances over and over in order to fuel this type of revolutionary violence.
00:29:15.000 Unfortunately, you get a lot of people who will start saying, oh, well, he deserved it, and don't worry that it's happening to that guy.
00:29:23.000 I see people in the chat right now saying, It's their fault.
00:29:28.000 They chose to be victims.
00:29:30.000 Someone is saying people are treated badly and he shouldn't have done that.
00:29:35.000 Let's see.
00:29:36.000 The corruption, helplessness.
00:29:38.000 Look, number one, it is absolutely sinful.
00:29:43.000 It is completely sinful.
00:29:44.000 sinful, it is a direct violation of the Ten Commandments, and it's unquestionably, unquestionably breaking one of God's commandments to do this type of activity, as is all communism, by the way.
00:29:58.000 Then, when you go beyond that, if you're condoning it, that means you're actually condoning the breaking of a commandment.
00:30:04.000 So it's completely anti-Christian to support any of this type of activity. 0.52
00:30:08.000 That's a huge, just basic, like, one-on-one level thing.
00:30:11.000 Number two, though, for people who say, okay, this is a legitimate grievance, it is.
00:30:16.000 And that's why you have to, as a government, you have to come in and find ways to meet that grievance, find some kind of compromise to bring down whatever.
00:30:27.000 Look, we didn't have a revolution in the United States when there were communist revolutions all over the world.
00:30:31.000 Why?
00:30:32.000 Because the government did come in and institute reforms Or the working class. 0.81
00:30:36.000 They introduced the weekend.
00:30:38.000 They introduced the 40-hour work week.
00:30:40.000 There were so many things.
00:30:42.000 Fringe benefits, which became benefits, of which, by the way, health insurance was one of the things that was interesting.
00:30:50.000 I mean, Blake, from a historical perspective, you're talking about insurance companies.
00:30:54.000 The idea that your job gave you insurance is actually, in the grand scheme of things, a fairly new type of Just this facet of having employment, because this was never originally considered something, you know, a job was, here's your wage and have fun, you know, go to the hospital if there's some issue with you.
00:31:13.000 So, you know, even that, the whole system of health insurance And tying of that to the employment system was something that was brought in as one of these compromises, historically speaking, going back about 100 years ago or 80 years ago in the progressive era and then in the 1930s as well.
00:31:33.000 And again, I'm not defending any of it.
00:31:35.000 Obviously, I stand for all sorts of government reform.
00:31:38.000 Look what we just spent the entire last year doing.
00:31:41.000 This is the populist movement, after all.
00:31:47.000 You cannot condone wanton leftist revolutionary violence, which is what it does seem like this was.
00:31:54.000 In the end, chaotic violence always favors the left.
00:31:59.000 There is a reason the left has used it throughout its entire history.
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00:33:05.000 .com So we could keep on this, Jack, or we could go to one of the second topics.
00:33:10.000 We could talk about what we want to do on day one of Doge, or we could talk about Bitcoin hitting 100,000.
00:33:17.000 Oh my gosh, look at this.
00:33:18.000 It's not a thought crime to not be sad when evil people are murdered.
00:33:24.000 Oh my gosh, look at this.
00:33:26.000 Look at this.
00:33:28.000 I'm not defending a murder, but this is like a revolt in the chat.
00:33:35.000 You know, the chat's like rising up against us.
00:33:38.000 It's thought crime versus the thought chat.
00:33:41.000 Oh man, I've got...
00:33:42.000 This is great.
00:33:42.000 People are sharing their stories, which I don't want to discount any of those things, you know, saying insurance reviewers.
00:33:50.000 Texas Cat, 117. He's saying, insurance refused $3,000 of anesthesia on his knee.
00:33:56.000 I refused after paying $20,000 in premium and deductible.
00:34:01.000 It's a scam or a crime.
00:34:04.000 And I think, you know, big picture what you can say is...
00:34:08.000 It's definitely worrisome whenever you have a system that is making a lot of people defend violent murders.
00:34:16.000 It's what Tucker would say on his show.
00:34:19.000 He would talk a lot about, in his book, Ship of Fools, he would say, as a leader, you have a responsibility to not let the system go until it sparks a revolution.
00:34:30.000 And so...
00:34:33.000 We've very much said our piece on that murder is bad, but you definitely have to think it is a red flag if there are all these people online who are celebrating it or defending it or justifying it or at least indifferent to it.
00:34:49.000 For me, this goes back to...
00:34:51.000 I was talking to Matthew before.
00:34:52.000 He had never heard of Occupy Wall Street, Jack.
00:34:55.000 I had to look it up.
00:34:56.000 He had to look up what Occupy Wall Street was.
00:34:59.000 Just never heard of it.
00:35:00.000 I was in elementary school when this was going on.
00:35:03.000 I was in elementary school and I didn't watch the news.
00:35:07.000 I watched the news when I was in elementary school.
00:35:09.000 I always do this when someone says, so have you heard of Star Wars?
00:35:13.000 Yeah, of course.
00:35:15.000 Alright, I see where you're going.
00:35:16.000 Okay, and how old were you when Star Wars came out?
00:35:18.000 I wasn't even...
00:35:19.000 I wasn't born.
00:35:20.000 I wasn't born.
00:35:20.000 I mean, depends on what episode.
00:35:22.000 So that's not actually an argument.
00:35:23.000 Okay, go ahead.
00:35:25.000 But yeah, so...
00:35:26.000 But I did look it up.
00:35:27.000 Yeah, so you do have...
00:35:29.000 This is what I... So the thing about Occupy Wall Street was it was very cringe.
00:35:33.000 It was very bad.
00:35:34.000 It actually was a proto-element for so many very annoying things in what would be the politics of the 2010s.
00:35:41.000 But it was also just an ominous sign generally for America that you have this level of populist anger against a relative engine of American prosperity.
00:35:54.000 And similar to that, the anger at the American health insurance system is not just...
00:36:00.000 It'd be one thing if it was just a threat to the healthcare system, which is frankly mostly bad, I think.
00:36:06.000 But I think it's the sort of thing that if it's not ultimately solved, it will be what justifies just abolishing everything that makes America successful.
00:36:15.000 Like, healthcare is their Trojan horse to just say, we're going to do socialism on the entire economy.
00:36:21.000 We're going to do leveling on the entire economy.
00:36:24.000 We're going to go full Bernie Sanders, full AOC, full Green New Deal, and the justification is going to be that your health insurance company sometimes screwed you on fees.
00:36:38.000 And there is this nihilist impulse that we do have to worry about.
00:36:46.000 So what was the goal of the Occupy Wall Street?
00:36:50.000 That's a good question.
00:36:50.000 We never found out.
00:36:51.000 Really?
00:36:52.000 Part of the gimmick of it was they showed up in Wall Street.
00:36:55.000 They would say, what is our one demand?
00:36:58.000 And they didn't know.
00:36:58.000 The idea was they would gather in their sort of populist commune in Zuccotti Park and then they would decide what their one demand would be.
00:37:07.000 And they didn't get around to figuring it out before they sent in the police and cleared them out.
00:37:10.000 It was all a very entertaining spectacle.
00:37:13.000 Really?
00:37:13.000 Which I remember because I was in college when it happened and you were in third grade or something.
00:37:19.000 Somewhere around there.
00:37:21.000 You were in fifth grade?
00:37:22.000 I was in fifth grade when 9-11 happened.
00:37:24.000 I noticed 9-11.
00:37:25.000 I'm just saying.
00:37:27.000 That's what separates...
00:37:28.000 I'll tell you one, though.
00:37:30.000 I was obviously a little bit older than that, but I was alive for the LA riots, and I would have been, I guess, in second or third grade, and I didn't know anything about them until...
00:37:47.000 No, keep in mind, this is pre-internet era, so it was hard to know about history unless you had books or...
00:37:53.000 I've listened to conservative talk radio.
00:37:56.000 This is why, by the way, the conservative talk radio was so subversive because they would just simply bring up things that you wouldn't hear anywhere else.
00:38:03.000 And we still have that, but it's way more prevalent because of social media.
00:38:07.000 That back at the time, you know, there were no alternative forms of media that you would ever hear any of this stuff.
00:38:14.000 And pre-internet, it was very hard.
00:38:16.000 So I had never heard of the LA riots until I was like, in college, I want to say until, yeah, it was definitely until I was in college that I heard about it.
00:38:25.000 And I was like, I can't believe this all happened when I was a kid.
00:38:28.000 And I had no idea that it even took place.
00:38:31.000 Let's see.
00:38:31.000 Have the masses yelled at us further?
00:38:34.000 So do people understand what we're saying?
00:38:37.000 Do people understand what we're saying is, we agree.
00:38:40.000 We totally agree that there are actual issues with the healthcare system.
00:38:46.000 I'm not defending the healthcare system.
00:38:47.000 I'm not defending rich people, but I'm defending any of those things necessarily.
00:38:51.000 But I am, number one, saying that you can't just hate someone for being rich.
00:38:55.000 And number two, I'm also saying that you can't just live.
00:39:02.000 where you go in to wanton mass murder like this of people who are in cold blood, because that is the path to absolute societal destruction.
00:39:15.000 It is absolute societal destruction to continue down one of these paths.
00:39:19.000 Spanish Civil War.
00:39:21.000 In the Spanish Civil War, when the revolutionaries got power, they killed 10% of the clergy.
00:39:26.000 10% of the priests and nuns in the entire country of Spain were murdered in the Spanish Civil War when the communists took over.
00:39:34.000 So, again, guys, this is where that stuff goes.
00:39:36.000 It's Bolshevism. 0.82
00:39:37.000 It's Chairman Mao.
00:39:39.000 It's the Red Guards.
00:39:40.000 And this is what they do.
00:39:42.000 This was the metronym in our book.
00:39:45.000 This is what they do.
00:39:46.000 They find someone who is an unsympathetic target, and they say, oh, we're just going to go after them.
00:39:53.000 We're just going to do this.
00:39:54.000 But again, we're not going to use prosecution.
00:39:56.000 We're not going to use FBI.
00:39:57.000 By the way, and Blake and Matthew, how funny is it, how ironic is it that the same people who say, oh, well, we can't let Kash Patel conduct an investigation into people who have committed government wrongdoing.
00:40:12.000 But, oh, it's totally fine to just go and murder somebody on the street.
00:40:15.000 Yeah, yeah, that's very much a real thing.
00:40:17.000 The same people who will attack any, like, organized use of justice that might be reasonable, that might be under control.
00:40:25.000 Are the ones that will celebrate any unhinged form of violence, chaotic form of violence.
00:40:32.000 The left is fundamentally the party of entropy.
00:40:35.000 They benefit from chaos.
00:40:38.000 That's why 2020 worked the way it did, that you would just start tearing away elements of civilization and let people just go maximal primal destructive urges.
00:40:47.000 And then they torch Minneapolis.
00:40:49.000 They torch DC.
00:40:50.000 They torch America itself.
00:40:54.000 This is right from the prince.
00:40:56.000 Yeah.
00:40:56.000 Machia Valley writes, in order for you to be the prince or the ruler, you need to first burn the farms and then be the hero of the farms.
00:41:03.000 This is exactly what we're seeing on the ground.
00:41:06.000 You saw this with the BLM riots.
00:41:08.000 You saw this with even the LA riots.
00:41:12.000 I know that was before me, but I did do my research, right?
00:41:15.000 That's where we get the...
00:41:16.000 Going back to the Korean stuff. 0.99
00:41:18.000 Have you heard of the Ali riots?
00:41:20.000 Yeah, I have.
00:41:21.000 I have.
00:41:22.000 Okay.
00:41:23.000 We're being careful.
00:41:24.000 I've read a few books.
00:41:25.000 This guy helped us win the election.
00:41:26.000 Did you know we had elections before you were born?
00:41:29.000 You're telling me now for the very first time.
00:41:31.000 Right.
00:41:32.000 But going back to Machiavelli, he writes this, right?
00:41:36.000 And we saw this in Minneapolis.
00:41:37.000 You mentioned this, right?
00:41:38.000 Where they started rioting.
00:41:41.000 They burned down their cities, and it just so happened that the social justice warriors of the BLM movement were also the heroes in that situation.
00:41:50.000 This is straight from their playbook.
00:41:52.000 This happens time after time, but we have to be aware.
00:41:56.000 I mean, this goes back to George...
00:41:57.000 Sorry, go ahead.
00:41:58.000 We have a guy in the comments, Mel6591, says he was there at the Watts Riots.
00:42:04.000 Wow.
00:42:05.000 Lots, man.
00:42:06.000 One, that's a historically important riot.
00:42:09.000 And two, that was a while ago.
00:42:11.000 God bless you, Mel.
00:42:12.000 Blake, the peaceful 60s, right?
00:42:15.000 The peaceful, the non-violent 60s, the non-violent movement of the 1960s.
00:42:22.000 And you say, what about all this violence?
00:42:24.000 No, no, no, no, no.
00:42:25.000 That violence is separate.
00:42:26.000 Those riots, the Watts riots, or the Newark riots where they had snipers on the roof shooting people at random.
00:42:33.000 I mean, for people who think that it's okay to condone something like this, I'm just going to say, you know, again and again, this is, it leads to, again, we wrote a whole book about it.
00:42:44.000 You know, it's Christmas time, so yeah, you know, unhumansbook.com, go check it out, go read the book, and you will see.
00:42:51.000 You will see that any time, you know, look at this.
00:42:54.000 Oh, look at that.
00:42:55.000 You're defending greed.
00:42:56.000 You are defending greed, right?
00:42:59.000 No, we're actually opposing murder and we're opposing chaos and we're opposing communism.
00:43:05.000 It's possible to oppose greed without just murdering people wantonly in the streets, as it turns out.
00:43:13.000 In fact, I don't recall any time where Jesus He called for us to just go and rise up and start murdering people for being greedy.
00:43:22.000 In fact, no.
00:43:23.000 He requires us to go and try to pray for them, to try to work on them, to convert them, to get them to see the error of their ways.
00:43:31.000 Yeah, maybe drive them out of the temple or something like that.
00:43:34.000 But you'd be hard-pressed to find any example of Jesus Christ condoning murder anywhere in the New Testament.
00:43:41.000 It is simply, again, it's just completely un-Christian. 1.00
00:43:45.000 It is, in fact, the antithesis of Christianity. 0.68
00:43:48.000 Amen.
00:43:49.000 Amen.
00:43:49.000 Do we have anything else we want to say on this?
00:43:51.000 Do we want to go around the horn on Doge or on Bitcoin?
00:43:54.000 I think we have 12 minutes left before Jack has to evacuate by helicopter.
00:43:58.000 I do, yeah.
00:43:59.000 What do you prefer, Jack?
00:44:00.000 You get to pick.
00:44:01.000 Or you can pick something entirely unrelated.
00:44:03.000 Or we can just keep arguing with the thought crime chat.
00:44:07.000 I love this.
00:44:08.000 The chat's going, man.
00:44:09.000 The chat is going.
00:44:10.000 Look at this.
00:44:11.000 Read about the French Revolution, the murder of the Hawkeye 102. Read about the French Revolution, murder of aristocrats.
00:44:17.000 Some of them for themselves was conducted gleefully.
00:44:20.000 Yeah, Blake, you know that.
00:44:22.000 For anyone who wants to read more, the book is Unhumans, or you could go, Blake and I did a whole podcast series on this right around this time last year regarding, and we had a whole episode on the French Revolution, and it was horrific.
00:44:34.000 The French Revolution and the reign of terror of Robespierre, when the Jacobin Club basically took power of the state there, it didn't end with King Louis and Marie Antoinette.
00:44:47.000 Remember, by the way, Marie Antoinette was murdered simply for being married to They decided that to be the king was a betrayal of the French people, and therefore he was murdered for being the king, and she was murdered for participating in that by being married to the king.
00:45:06.000 And no, the quote about let them eat cake was never actually uttered.
00:45:10.000 It wasn't uttered by her.
00:45:11.000 It was uttered by her opponents.
00:45:13.000 And this kept going.
00:45:14.000 The guillotine kept swinging down until the very last one was the nun, the Sisters of Copenhagen, this group of, I think, 12 nuns who lived in a cloister who refused to renounce their vows.
00:45:28.000 And even they were executed right in the center of Paris, where, by the way, President Trump is going to be traveling this weekend, because that's another example of the French Revolution, by the way, because the Notre Dame Cathedral was, yeah, we know it was burned in 2019.
00:45:44.000 But did you know that it was also raised during the French Revolution?
00:45:49.000 And And the 12 statues on the facade of it, the 12 kings of Israel were smashed by the revolutionaries, the stained glass windows, many of them were smashed as well.
00:45:59.000 And in fact, the cathedral itself was deconsecrated and it was turned into a temple of reason by the cult of reason, the sort of atheist, science-based ideology.
00:46:14.000 But that doesn't sound like anything that's going on anywhere today, right, guys?
00:46:18.000 Jack, we have a very important counterpoint that was brought up by someone in the chat.
00:46:24.000 Let's go.
00:46:24.000 Individual thinker mentions, why is it illegal to fly over North Pole or to go to Antarctica?
00:46:31.000 What do you have to say to that, Jack?
00:46:35.000 Look, I'm just going to say, if there's any Santa deniers that want to step to me in the next 20 days, you're going to get the horns, right?
00:46:42.000 There won't be no Santa denial going on.
00:46:44.000 It is illegal to fly over the North Pole specifically and Antarctica, which of course is part of his flight route, because you would be disrupting Santa Claus and his North Pole Christmastime operations.
00:46:55.000 And if you were to do so, then in that case, I would support prosecution, absolutely, and incarceration.
00:47:03.000 You know younger people, they aren't denying Santa over there, are they?
00:47:07.000 There are a few, unfortunately.
00:47:09.000 There are a few.
00:47:10.000 We need to talk to Tyler about this.
00:47:12.000 This is a big problem.
00:47:14.000 This is actually a question that I've been asking candidates who come in through the transition process for the Trump administration.
00:47:22.000 What are your thoughts on Santa Claus and Santa deniers?
00:47:26.000 Straight, straight out the door.
00:47:28.000 Straight out the door.
00:47:29.000 And it's a great limits test.
00:47:31.000 Get them all out.
00:47:32.000 Out the door.
00:47:33.000 Out the sleigh.
00:47:36.000 I think Buddy the Elf said it the best.
00:47:39.000 The best way to spread the Christmas cheer is to sing out loud for all to hear.
00:47:43.000 I actually only saw that movie for the first time recently.
00:47:45.000 No way.
00:47:47.000 I'm the same way, actually.
00:47:49.000 I saw it for the first time last year.
00:47:50.000 Is that the most recent Christmas movie that's like a canonical Christmas movie?
00:47:55.000 Do you like Home Alone?
00:47:58.000 Home Alone is my personal favorite.
00:48:01.000 Or Elf?
00:48:02.000 Yeah, Home Alone is great.
00:48:03.000 Home Alone is definitely better than Elf.
00:48:05.000 Really?
00:48:06.000 Elf is cute, but Home Alone has a lot of emotional oomph to it.
00:48:12.000 You got President Trump in the Elf.
00:48:14.000 By the way, my kids like Home Alone better too.
00:48:19.000 Yeah.
00:48:19.000 The Wet Bandits would support CEO assassination.
00:48:22.000 That's what our audience should keep in mind.
00:48:25.000 And Sticky Bandits will do.
00:48:27.000 People are voting Elf in the chat.
00:48:29.000 I'm a little surprised.
00:48:30.000 I think Home Alone's really good.
00:48:32.000 I don't feel like Elf has anything comparable to like...
00:48:36.000 It's Sean Hughes.
00:48:37.000 I'm sorry.
00:48:38.000 No.
00:48:38.000 Yeah, and like meeting the dad who's estranged from his son in the church.
00:48:42.000 I don't think Elf has anything quite like that.
00:48:45.000 By the way, Home Alone...
00:48:48.000 Also is one of the last movies that you can see, maybe not last, but it certainly is towards the end of movies that were huge These were just inserted into movies that were non-religious movies.
00:49:09.000 But the idea that a main character or...
00:49:12.000 There's a whole subplot!
00:49:13.000 There's a whole subplot that revolves around the next-door neighbor going to see his granddaughter who's estranged.
00:49:19.000 Well, the son is estranged, and he wants to go see her at the church, and he goes there.
00:49:23.000 And this is just something that's been totally excised from all of mainstream media, particularly Hollywood media, the idea of a character just going to church on a regular basis.
00:49:35.000 And don't tell me for a second that that hasn't had an effect on the broader society, because I absolutely believe that it has.
00:49:42.000 Absolutely.
00:49:43.000 Absolutely.
00:49:44.000 And John Hughes was just a great American.
00:49:47.000 I think he's not he's not fully appreciated for that.
00:49:51.000 Just being like an earnest pro-American, like all pro all of the good things in America, you know, civic Christianity, patriotism.
00:50:02.000 I will never forget how in Uncle Buck, you can tell that Uncle Buck is a somewhat disreputable character because he comes home and he has a bag that's for the Chicago Democratic Party.
00:50:14.000 That's how you know not everything is quite right with him.
00:50:19.000 Great guy.
00:50:20.000 Recommend all of his movies.
00:50:21.000 But yeah, Home Alone is probably my personal favorite.
00:50:25.000 Obviously, there's the old classics.
00:50:27.000 You'll see people say Christmas Story a lot.
00:50:29.000 I think I'm a bit over a Christmas Story.
00:50:30.000 That might be because it's on 24 hours a day every Christmas.
00:50:36.000 I love Christmas Story.
00:50:37.000 That just gets really tedious after the third or fourth time.
00:50:39.000 And the new one, they did a sequel to it.
00:50:41.000 They did a sequel where Ralphie is grown up.
00:50:45.000 And so he's the dad, and then it's with his kids.
00:50:48.000 And almost the entire cast returns, at least the surviving cast.
00:50:52.000 And they actually...
00:50:55.000 For movies like that, which are usually horrible, this one was actually pretty good.
00:50:59.000 Does your generation still watch A Christmas Story?
00:51:01.000 Yeah.
00:51:02.000 Oh yeah, absolutely.
00:51:03.000 That's a Christmas classic.
00:51:04.000 I'm glad you are going, I've never heard of that one.
00:51:08.000 What's a movie?
00:51:09.000 I think it's hilarious.
00:51:10.000 I just think it's hilarious.
00:51:11.000 I think it's so funny.
00:51:12.000 Is there any new Christmas movie?
00:51:14.000 Is there something that's come out in the last 10 years that young people like?
00:51:17.000 It's all secular, unfortunately.
00:51:19.000 All the new Christmas movies.
00:51:22.000 But the classics, at least, have that Christ element to things.
00:51:28.000 They actually talk about why we celebrate Christmas.
00:51:31.000 The purpose of it.
00:51:32.000 Yeah.
00:51:33.000 Right?
00:51:36.000 Man.
00:51:36.000 And just remember, guys.
00:51:38.000 Polar Express.
00:51:41.000 I kind of tried.
00:51:43.000 That one was a little weird.
00:51:45.000 I'm looking at Christmas movies now.
00:51:47.000 Actually, for anyone who's got kids or grandkids, there is a movie that came out.
00:51:51.000 Yeah, I just found this for my kids.
00:51:53.000 A couple years ago.
00:51:54.000 It is an animated film, and it's called The Star.
00:51:59.000 And the main character is the donkey from the actual nativity story.
00:52:07.000 So it's the donkey that Mary rides on to Bethlehem. 0.58
00:52:10.000 And it's this animated film of the nativity story, but told from the perspective of the animals.
00:52:18.000 And so it's like, it's kind of cool and it's great for little kids and it's just really well done.
00:52:24.000 It's obviously full on Christian and it's, it's got a really randomly incredible cast.
00:52:30.000 It's got like Kelly Clarkson, Keegan-Michael Key is in there from like, uh, uh, uh, uh, Jordan Peele and, uh, Well, Zachary Levi is in there, who, by the way, just recently came out as a big Trump supporter.
00:52:46.000 Chris Sunferson is in there.
00:52:48.000 Mariah Carey's in there.
00:52:49.000 Tyler Perry.
00:52:51.000 Even Oprah is in there.
00:52:52.000 So it's just Kristen Chenoweth from the original Wicked.
00:52:56.000 It's so bizarre that this movie came out and is, like, unapologetically Christian, and it has a really strong Hollywood cast.
00:53:05.000 And it's just a great movie.
00:53:07.000 We have all the people in the comments are saying that Die Hard is a Christmas movie.
00:53:15.000 Did we debate this a week or two ago?
00:53:18.000 I don't want to rehash it if we did.
00:53:20.000 We mention it and look, it's very played out as a meme.
00:53:26.000 It's definitely a dead meme.
00:53:29.000 It's very 2018 and honestly it's like It's just something that it's like, I don't know, like some people have found it recently and they're like, oh yeah, it's so cool.
00:53:40.000 It was funny like the first time someone said like, actually, Die Hard's a Christmas movie.
00:53:44.000 And you're like, oh, it takes place on Christmas.
00:53:46.000 But no, it is not a Christmas movie.
00:53:49.000 It is a movie that takes place during Christmas.
00:53:51.000 No, it's really not.
00:53:52.000 Important distinction.
00:53:53.000 It's really not.
00:53:54.000 Is Batman Return the Christmas movie?
00:53:57.000 Yeah, it didn't come out during Christmas.
00:53:59.000 It doesn't have important Christmas themes.
00:54:02.000 It's just a movie where Christmas is occurring in the background.
00:54:06.000 It's just a setting.
00:54:07.000 That's why there's a party at the building.
00:54:09.000 That's the only reason for it.
00:54:11.000 And then they play Let It Snow at the end because it's funny.
00:54:14.000 It could be at any other time of year and still be the same exact story, and therefore it doesn't pass the Christmas text.
00:54:24.000 Related to that, are we all taking part in Whamageddon this year?
00:54:29.000 Whamageddon.
00:54:30.000 Whamageddon is where you try to go all of December without hearing the song Last Christmas by Wham, which is a useful thing to do because Last Christmas isn't a Christmas song.
00:54:42.000 You could just change every use of the word Christmas in that song to Tuesday.
00:54:46.000 It's a heartbreak song.
00:54:46.000 You could just change the word Christmas to Tuesday, and it would be the same song.
00:54:50.000 Like, last Tuesday I gave you my heart, and then the next day you gave it away.
00:54:53.000 Same thing.
00:54:54.000 No, no, no.
00:54:55.000 No Christmas stuff at all.
00:54:57.000 Last Christmas is definitely a Christmas theme.
00:54:58.000 No, it's a Christmas song because, number one, it has the word Christmas in there, and as a song, it is evoking the emotion of Christmas.
00:55:07.000 Christmas is an incredibly emotional time.
00:55:10.000 And so, you know, last Christmas I gave you...
00:55:13.000 I gave you my heart for Christmas.
00:55:15.000 That is the giving of gifts.
00:55:17.000 Gift giving, of course, an important Christian tradition to celebrate the birth of Christ.
00:55:23.000 Is it an American song?
00:55:24.000 The very next day they gave it away, which means they gave it away on Boxing Day.
00:55:28.000 Is it an anti-boxing day?
00:55:30.000 Well, they were British, right? 0.71
00:55:32.000 George Michael's British, so I don't know.
00:55:34.000 Is he British-Canadian?
00:55:36.000 Australian.
00:55:37.000 Boxing Day is Australian.
00:55:39.000 And British.
00:55:39.000 British definitely has Boxing Day, too.
00:55:40.000 Canada, too?
00:55:41.000 I think all of the, like, limey countries have...
00:55:44.000 It was like a common...
00:55:45.000 Well, there you go, then.
00:55:46.000 There is a line in here that says, Happy Christmas.
00:55:49.000 Happy Christmas?
00:55:49.000 Yeah, Happy Christmas.
00:55:50.000 Not Merry Christmas, but Happy Christmas.
00:55:52.000 Okay, that's definitely pretty British.
00:55:54.000 Wait, Blake.
00:55:55.000 So here's...
00:55:56.000 So the one interesting thing for me when it comes to...
00:56:01.000 The Die Hard debate is, so, you know, I was getting way down the weeds on this a couple years ago, and I was saying, look, it's not central to plot, and it has all, you know, it's just right there.
00:56:12.000 It just happens to take place around Christmas.
00:56:14.000 And then someone threw back at me, they said, well, what about the movie White Christmas then?
00:56:19.000 Wouldn't the movie White Christmas also not actually fall into that as well?
00:56:25.000 Because it has to do with a hotel and some World War II veterans and all of this.
00:56:36.000 World War II was a Korean War.
00:56:38.000 What year was it?
00:56:40.000 50 to 53. Yeah, but it's when the movie was set.
00:56:44.000 That I don't know.
00:56:45.000 And so, anyway, point being is, you know, does that actually constitute a Christmas movie by that same test?
00:56:56.000 Yeah, you know, I know you have a hard out here, Jack.
00:56:59.000 I want to just...
00:57:01.000 Yeah, I just want to cite Michael says...
00:57:04.000 Michael says apparently the hip new Christmas movie is Violent Night, which is John Wick with Santa, and the theme is Getting Home for Christmas.
00:57:14.000 I haven't seen it.
00:57:16.000 I haven't seen that either.
00:57:17.000 I worry that after what we just said, it might be against the spirit of Christmas to watch a Christmas movie about that, but...
00:57:26.000 Yeah, there's a bunch of these, like, I do watch, like, I watch the new crop of Christmas movies every year, and just because there are popular Christmas movies that come out that don't necessarily make them It's a Wonderful Life.
00:57:40.000 That will be watched every year in my house.
00:57:43.000 There's no question.
00:57:45.000 It is, in my mind, by far, the best Christmas movie.
00:57:50.000 And really strikes a heart of what we were talking about earlier.
00:57:54.000 By the way, I will also point out that in It's a Wonderful Life, oh, here we go.
00:57:59.000 I just figured it out.
00:58:00.000 This is how I'm going to tie together the whole thing.
00:58:02.000 In It's a Wonderful Life, Why doesn't Jimmy Stewart, why doesn't George Bailey just murder Mr. Potter?
00:58:08.000 Why doesn't he just shoot him in the street?
00:58:10.000 Why doesn't he just take that wheelchair and push him off the bridge into the water? 1.00
00:58:15.000 Wouldn't Clarence the Angel love that?
00:58:17.000 Yeah, that's a good point, Jack.
00:58:19.000 Would you want George Bailey to do that?
00:58:21.000 He would be screwed in England.
00:58:23.000 Yeah, I bet he exploited at least as many people as the UnitedHealthcare allegedly possibly did.
00:58:30.000 And I don't know the movie that he was exploiting and he was taking people's houses away and he was, you know, foreclosing and that he was turning them all.
00:58:37.000 And then in, by the way, in the dystopian version, of course, he turned the entire place into what?
00:58:42.000 Gambling, drugs, alcohol, sex.
00:58:46.000 And in the dystopian version, I'll never forget this, that Mary, who I believe is, I guess, you know, in her like 30s.
00:58:57.000 Right.
00:58:58.000 if you understand, Blake, you know where I'm going with this.
00:59:00.000 Mary is in her 30s in the dystopian version, and he says, where's Mary, Clarence?
00:59:06.000 Where's Mary? 0.99
00:59:07.000 Show me Mary!
00:59:08.000 And he goes, no, George, you don't want to see that.
00:59:11.000 She's closing up the library, George.
00:59:13.000 She never married.
00:59:14.000 She's a spinster. 1.00
00:59:15.000 She's a spinster, George.
00:59:17.000 She's a cat lady, George. 0.99
00:59:19.000 She's an unmarried cat lady. 0.94
00:59:21.000 He goes, what?
00:59:22.000 No!
00:59:23.000 And this is what causes him to psychologically break.
00:59:26.000 Like, his brother being dead didn't shatter him.
00:59:29.000 His town looking like it's, you know, 2024 America didn't shatter him.
00:59:35.000 And the ship that his brother saved in the war, all the sailors were killed.
00:59:41.000 None of that mattered nearly as much as his wife becoming a cat lady.
00:59:44.000 As Mary being a cat lady at a library. 0.58
00:59:46.000 And by the way, so in the 1940s when that movie came out, everyone understood that there was something wrong with that and that should not happen.
00:59:55.000 Okay, now we're getting in real trouble right now.
00:59:57.000 But I will say that J.D. Vance, if you look at the exit polls, did you see that poll that was going around of pet owners?
01:00:05.000 And it was like every single pet owner demographic went for Trump except for one.
01:00:11.000 And which one was that?
01:00:13.000 I think we know, Jack.
01:00:16.000 I think we know.
01:00:17.000 Did he say that in an interview with Charlie?
01:00:24.000 I feel like it was.
01:00:25.000 It was either Charlie or Tucker.
01:00:27.000 I can't remember at this point.
01:00:29.000 I think it was Charlie.
01:00:30.000 Ah, classic.
01:00:32.000 Good times.
01:00:33.000 Good times.
01:00:34.000 Do you have a hard out, Jack?
01:00:35.000 Um, no.
01:00:36.000 Well, I thought I was, but I can do like 10 more minutes.
01:00:39.000 Alrighty, alrighty.
01:00:40.000 Oh, this is great.
01:00:41.000 Yeah, I'm loving this chat right now.
01:00:44.000 People are men with turbles. 0.97
01:00:48.000 Eww.
01:00:49.000 Life of Brian is not a Christmas movie.
01:00:53.000 No, Life of Brian is not a Christmas movie.
01:00:54.000 Life of Brian is hilarious.
01:00:56.000 Life of Brian by Monty Python is amazing.
01:00:58.000 I'm sure Matthew has no idea.
01:00:59.000 Matthew, do you know what Life of Brian is?
01:01:01.000 Love is Blind?
01:01:02.000 I'm sorry.
01:01:03.000 Life of Brian?
01:01:05.000 Have you heard of that movie?
01:01:05.000 No.
01:01:06.000 He hasn't heard of Life of Brian.
01:01:07.000 When did that come out?
01:01:09.000 Here, I'll look it up.
01:01:10.000 Before I was blind.
01:01:11.000 Have you heard of Monty Python and the Holy Grail?
01:01:13.000 Of course, of course.
01:01:13.000 Okay, he's heard of Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
01:01:16.000 So it's another Monty Python movie about...
01:01:19.000 It's about a...
01:01:20.000 Yeah, exactly.
01:01:21.000 Just lived a cloistered life.
01:01:24.000 So, shelter childhood.
01:01:26.000 So, Life of Brian is a movie where this guy is born in a similar way to Jesus, and in a similar place and time as Jesus, but is not actually Jesus, and keeps getting accidentally mistaken for Jesus.
01:01:42.000 Someone says their favorite Christmas movie of the last 10 years is Fat Man starring Mel Gibson, which I have never heard of, but it does honestly look pretty remarkable.
01:01:55.000 it is an unorthodox slant on holiday traditions that follows a jaded gritty santa claus played by mel gibson who struggles with ennui production issues government interference and an embittered assassin sent by a vengeful naughty child the film received mixed reviews i'm just seeing the By the way, is Gremlins a Christmas movie?
01:02:21.000 Because he gets the Gremlins for Christmas.
01:02:24.000 Does it otherwise have Christmas themes?
01:02:26.000 Okay, I'll confess, I've never seen Gremlins.
01:02:30.000 No, it doesn't.
01:02:31.000 But it is the beginning of the movie that he receives the first gremlin as a Christmas present.
01:02:39.000 Someone says Planes, Trains, and Automobiles.
01:02:41.000 That is a Thanksgiving movie, as we discussed.
01:02:44.000 That's like the only Thanksgiving movie ever made, other than that crappy slasher movie.
01:02:49.000 What about Charlie Browne?
01:02:52.000 That's not like a theatrical movie, that's a television special.
01:02:55.000 It's totally different.
01:02:56.000 There are a lot of television specials about Thanksgiving.
01:02:59.000 Yeah, so in the last 10 years, you either get, the last 10 years or so of Christmas movies, you either get a Hallmark kind of Christmas movie, or you get this gritty kind of Christmas movie.
01:03:13.000 By the way, I will say that I am unabashedly supportive of all Hallmark movies.
01:03:20.000 I love Hallmark movies.
01:03:21.000 I think they're fantastic.
01:03:23.000 I think they're wonderful.
01:03:24.000 I don't care that it's the same plot every time.
01:03:27.000 That's not the point.
01:03:27.000 The point is that's the world we're fighting for.
01:03:31.000 That's the world that, you know, imagine if you could just live in one of those worlds where all you had to worry about was, oh, the town Christmas party needs a fundraiser to save the old inn or something, and you've got this wonderful community where people join together and then,
01:03:49.000 you know, Sarah is back from the big city, and she's still single because she's working so hard, and then she meets the guy who runs the inn, and they fall in love, and off you go, and it's like, that's the world we're fighting for, and that's why I like Hallmark movies.
01:04:06.000 What's the better Hallmark movie, where the man from Business City learns how to let go and reacquaint himself with rural life, or the woman who's gone to the big city?
01:04:17.000 Because we have both versions.
01:04:19.000 Is it better when the woman learns to, like, go small town life or when the guy is, like, hooked by a cute girl next door type in the small town? 1.00
01:04:28.000 City to rule.
01:04:29.000 I think that's the better story.
01:04:31.000 But who should be going from the city to the rural?
01:04:34.000 Guy or girl? 0.81
01:04:34.000 Which one has the... 0.81
01:04:37.000 I think the guy.
01:04:39.000 The guy going to the role part, right?
01:04:41.000 Because there's a sense of retaining all this masculinity kind of traits of helping out the city or the town, carrying trees, right?
01:04:52.000 Chopping down trees.
01:04:53.000 I like that sense of movies.
01:04:56.000 Bringing that back.
01:04:56.000 I just don't like the softness.
01:05:00.000 I take the opposite route.
01:05:01.000 I think it's the ones that are sort of, you know, most media out there promotes the girl boss lifestyle and promotes the sex in the city lifestyle.
01:05:12.000 And it's like, the career woman, you've got to do this, and you've got to eschew childhood.
01:05:18.000 And this is, by the way, where you get the Childless Cat Ladies from. 1.00
01:05:21.000 And instead, you have these great Hallmark movies that come out every year that are like, hey, there's more to life than that.
01:05:29.000 And there's good things that you're passing up on.
01:05:32.000 And that doesn't mean that there's anything wrong with that.
01:05:35.000 But maybe Christmas means just a little bit of life.
01:05:40.000 But does it maybe set up a misleading expectation where you could be a girl boss and then you just go on a vacation and, like, whoop, swept off your feet and you still get your, like, whirlwind romance?
01:05:51.000 Whereas if it's the man in Business City having that happen, it is mostly women who watch these movies. 0.84
01:05:57.000 Then you are communicating, really, like, this is actually what men find most desirable, like, these traits, like, of the girl next door, small town girl...
01:06:07.000 You might be sending a more useful message to them, whereas if it's the girlboss-ungirlbossing, it might sort of fly over their head, and they'll just think, wow, I can hook this amazing small-town guy after I've done my career stint in the big city.
01:06:25.000 You could interpret it either way.
01:06:27.000 That's like the Taylor Swift-Travis Kelsey thing.
01:06:29.000 Right?
01:06:29.000 Like, Taylor Swift is like, oh, I dated all these guys, and, you know, I put off marriage, but I still ended up with, you know, Super Bowl champion.
01:06:38.000 Yeah, we have Thor.
01:06:39.000 Thor Colonel says, Girlboss returns to her hometown to take care of her sick father and falls in love and leaves her career behind is 75% of Hallmark movies.
01:06:50.000 Admittedly, I don't watch these movies.
01:06:52.000 I hope they're actually like this.
01:06:55.000 Once you've seen one, you don't need to see the others.
01:06:57.000 They're all the same, just different names.
01:06:58.000 Yes, you do.
01:06:59.000 Yes, you do.
01:07:00.000 Over and over and over.
01:07:02.000 By the way, they do have some that are actually kind of cool because they're like, you know, they go and film on location.
01:07:10.000 So they go show you like, like we just watched one.
01:07:12.000 We actually literally, Tanya and I just watched one the other day where they were doing a river cruise down the Danube, which Blake, you would like that.
01:07:22.000 And they go and visit like different cities and castles along The only issue is that, so the guy, of course, is secretly a prince, of course, but it's like a fake country.
01:07:32.000 It's sort of like a stand-in to LinkedIn stocking.
01:07:36.000 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
01:07:38.000 Now we're going to have work, Mr. The Cause of all the problems in Europe for the last 150 years.
01:07:46.000 Okay, okay.
01:07:48.000 No, those are cool.
01:07:52.000 Ah!
01:07:53.000 Someone just put it out in the chat.
01:07:55.000 Royal Holiday.
01:07:55.000 That's right.
01:07:56.000 It's Royal Holiday.
01:07:57.000 That's what it was.
01:07:58.000 One royal holiday.
01:07:59.000 The Netflix Hallmark knockoff, A Christmas Prince, was really funny.
01:08:04.000 Because they have, like, it takes place in, like, an entire Christmas-themed country called, like, Aldovia.
01:08:10.000 Look at this.
01:08:11.000 Look at that.
01:08:11.000 Look.
01:08:12.000 Thor journal is with me.
01:08:13.000 I'm with Jack on this.
01:08:14.000 When I was caring for my grandma in hospice, she left it on Hallmark and all the movies were low-key grade.
01:08:19.000 Yeah, they are.
01:08:20.000 Because what it is is, like, yeah, it's tame.
01:08:23.000 I get it.
01:08:24.000 But it's, like...
01:08:26.000 There's so much garbage out there anymore that you just turn on a Hallmark movie and you're like, oh yeah, this is what life used to be like.
01:08:34.000 Hey, I'm hitting my heart out, guys, so I do have to cut it short here.
01:08:40.000 You guys can feel free to keep going, but I do have to bounce.
01:08:43.000 No, I think we can just head it out and close it out now, but thanks for coming on.
01:08:46.000 Thank you.
01:08:47.000 We were shorthanded, and we'll see everyone.
01:08:50.000 This is a fun episode.
01:08:53.000 Do you have social...
01:08:54.000 Matthew, do you have social...
01:08:56.000 Yeah, I do.
01:08:58.000 Wait, wait, wait.
01:08:59.000 I was going to say, do you have social media for people to go by?
01:09:02.000 I do.
01:09:03.000 It's universally on all platforms.
01:09:07.000 MC Martinez.
01:09:08.000 MC Martinez AZ as in Arizona.
01:09:13.000 And I also just downloaded Blue Sky.
01:09:15.000 So you'll see me start ripping.
01:09:18.000 I'm posting a lot of Republican stuff on there.
01:09:21.000 I want to see how long I can stay on Blue Sky without being kicked off.
01:09:25.000 By the way, guys, Matthew did a ton of work with Turning Point Action.
01:09:31.000 He really did.
01:09:31.000 I remember going to visit over there when Tyler was, you know, just kind of cracking the whip.
01:09:37.000 And he was like, Matthew, get back to work.
01:09:39.000 Get back to the whiteboards.
01:09:40.000 The whiteboards need updating.
01:09:41.000 You're like, Tyler, please let me eat, please.
01:09:44.000 It's been days.
01:09:45.000 And he's like, no!
01:09:45.000 No!
01:09:47.000 But no, you did an incredible job over there and crunching all the numbers.
01:09:52.000 And I know we weren't really doing, you know, we'll have to do like a separate episode where we kind of like explain all of that.
01:09:59.000 Thank you, Jack.
01:10:00.000 No!
01:10:01.000 No!
01:10:05.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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01:10:11.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.