On this episode of THAKE Crime, Jack, Blake, Tyler, and Jack recap President Trump's trip to Greenland, the Panama Canal, and much, much more! Thanks to our sponsor, Noble Gold Investments, for sponsoring the show.
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00:02:37.000He's like, trust me, we'll talk about it later.
00:02:40.000It was so great because the time where I'm a producer on Charlie's radio show and I learned that Charlie was going to Greenland when he sent us the photo of him in Greenland.
00:02:50.000And I believe that's when Andrew learned about it.
00:02:53.000I believe that's when everyone learned about it.
00:06:25.000We didn't meet with government officials.
00:06:26.000We came as tourists, come to just learn, report back to the people of America of what we saw and heard.
00:06:33.000Honored to be included and would welcome your guys' thoughts.
00:06:35.000But you know, that's not the only nuke in Greenland, of course.
00:06:40.000Something that a lot of people don't realize is that during the Cold War, this actually was one of the forward strategic bases for US WMDs regarding the threat of the Soviet Union.
00:06:52.000And really that in any type of strategic intercontinental ballistic missile exchange between the US and Russia or the US and China, it would most likely be over the top.
00:07:24.000It is so shorter to travel those distances, the maritime routes.
00:07:29.000This was the whole reason, by the way, for the endless search for the Northwest Passage, which potentially might be opening up due to advances in icebreaker technology.
00:07:37.000Which, of course, the U.S. is totally lagging behind China and Russia and new routes that may be opening up in the Labrador Sea and others, which, by the way, would take maritime shipping in a completely new direction where, guess what, the Suez Canal and the Houthis and the Straits of Malacca and all the nonsense might be completely obsolete within the next 10 to 15 years, not to mention the baseball-sized rubies and all the other natural resources up there.
00:08:06.000So, I mean, it's pretty clear that over the next century, the race for the Arctic is going to be absolutely massive, and it's just incredible that President Trump is focusing on it the way that he has.
00:08:17.000And, of course, the United States has maintained military presence there since World War II. So, this is something I discovered.
00:08:24.000So, obviously, as you mentioned, the big U.S. base in far northern Greenland, we called it Thule Air Force Base because that's like the old...
00:08:33.000Excuse me, it is Thule Air Force Base.
00:08:35.000Biden administration renamed it to something stupid because they wanted to like, I think it was like the local indigenous people's name for the area, which, okay, they can call it whatever they want.
00:08:46.000We call it Thule because Ultima Thule is, you know, a cool ancient Greek concept for the ultra far north.
00:08:53.000So that's one of the many bases we should probably change the name back to, which this ties into when we were talking about topics.
00:09:00.000Obviously, we want to talk about Greenland, but President Trump, he's...
00:09:04.000He's sort of creating this conversation about all sorts of foreign policy stuff, both actual expansionism and, like, I don't know, rhetorical offensive.
00:09:14.000So he was saying we should rename the Gulf of Mexico.
00:09:17.000Should we rename the Gulf of Mexico, guys?
00:09:25.000It turns out that, I think one of the first, I was looking at this last year, and one of the first posts I was able to find of that was from my brother, like, all the way back in, like, April of 2024. And he was out on a wave runner, and he was like, he was like, just cruising the Gulf of America, its new name, come 2025. And I was like, did you, I was like, Kevin, did somebody, like, tip you off?
00:09:48.000He's like, no, I just, I just thought that it should be called.
00:09:51.000Well, and it makes perfect sense, too, because, I mean, realistically, most of the Gulf is completely dependent.
00:09:58.000It's either the United States border or completely dependent on the United States for everything.
00:10:03.000Well, if we are going to name things because they're dependent on the U.S., we should rename Europe America.
00:10:36.000We actually, Polk wanted to take all of Baja California, or like all of California, because there's Alto and Baja, and then he wanted like Chihuahuas, or he wanted like the states that are south of Arizona bordering us.
00:10:47.000And at the time, those places were entirely empty, so they could have just been, you know, settled.
00:11:13.000Because we talked about this prior to...
00:11:15.000I know we talked about this on a prior episode of talking about Arizona.
00:11:19.000And since you're Mr. Arizona, I've got to ask.
00:11:21.000Wasn't there, I'm not looking it up, I don't even know what's in front of me, but wasn't at the end, like, Blake, you're talking about the Mexican War, U.S.-Mexican War, that Arizona was originally supposed to get coastline, it was supposed to connect all the way down there, and then for some reason we just didn't take it.
00:12:28.000It actually is sort of heartbreaking because when you think about it, zoom out at a big level.
00:12:32.000how much better would it be for the world just if those territories were in an awesome country like america instead of the most permanently dysfunctional country on earth mexico which who's like sheer amount of mess that it is is only made worse by the fact that they have the biggest advantage a country could possibly have which is sharing a border with america well so blake so
00:12:55.000So here's, let's zoom out a little bit, because I've been getting people, and I've seen the chatter online, I'm sure we all have, they're saying, wait a minute, you guys were America first five minutes ago, and now all of a sudden you're talking about territorial acquisition, and you're talking about Greenland, and the Panama Canal, Greenland is going to be part of America, so of course I'm America first.
00:13:14.000Right, right, but no, I wanted, obviously, but what I wanted Blake to do, if we should zoom out here for a second, is...
00:13:20.000None of us view any inherent contradictions between those.
00:13:25.000So what's the difference between, and this is really a question for Blake, I guess, what's the difference between America first versus, like, neoconservatism?
00:13:35.000Well, I think actually a genuinely valid thing is, so first of all, neoconservatism always wants us to get involved in places that, like, truly are not our business.
00:13:47.000And also have a lot of baggage that comes into play as soon as you decide to stick yourself in.
00:13:52.000So, oh yeah, oh, it'll be easy to knock out Saddam, and, you know, we'll just fix it.
00:13:56.000When Iraq is literally, has had written history for 5,000 years at this point, and all these tribes that all hate each other, and infamously we went in and Bush didn't know there were Sunnis and Shias as separate things when we invaded Iraq.
00:14:11.000Greenland, let's be real, Greenland has 50,000 people.
00:14:21.000We literally, like, if you wanted to, we could literally just, like, put every single person who lives in Greenland on, like, welfare for the rest of their lives and it would not be the end of the world.
00:14:29.000We have plenty of people on welfare already.
00:14:39.000Like, it is a place that is hugely, potentially useful to us, but it doesn't require sticking ourselves in something that actually has an ancient history and a lot of, like, grievance-based, you know, that would have valid grievances if we were to administer it.
00:14:54.000It actually is a largely empty place that we could unlock the potential of, and Denmark doesn't want to unlock the potential of it.
00:15:01.000I'm going to make it super clear, and then kick back to Charlie, because we've hijacked this away from Charlie for too long here, but we'll kick back to Charlie.
00:15:31.000We have so many pressures that we can put on Mexico, for example, to change names of things and to get more land out of Baja, California, to get Greenland and all that, especially what Charlie just mentioned.
00:16:08.000The word admiral is also an Arabic word, like admiral.
00:16:13.000But, yeah, it goes through, like, it was from, because, remember, prior to expanding to the United States, who was the Spanish Empire mainly fighting?
00:18:18.000Like, you know, yeah, Alberta, natural resources, the Yukon, we can certainly make all of those conversations as well as defense of the Arctic, military, you know, military usage and all those passage rights, which obviously, like, Canada is like the, it's like the Belarus of America, all right?
00:18:35.000Like, we are going to use our military up there however we see fit.
00:18:38.000And, no, I can say that because I'm married to one.
00:18:41.000And, look, it's, It's basically like, yeah, we're going to get the resources and Pierre eating his little apple.
00:19:18.000I was like, if we could take Yukon, take the Northwest Territory, take Nunavut, and then take Greenland, and you could just fold it into Alaska and make this extremely sweeping, epic, call it Northlandia or something, or Thule, whatever you want.
00:19:35.000Think about how huge it would be and how cool it would be.
00:19:39.000That's another thing where we misfired.
00:19:41.000After World War II... We owned all those islands in the Pacific.
00:19:45.000We kicked out the Japanese, all the other colonial powers.
00:20:07.000The main purpose of a lot of those islands is so that we have other countries to vote with us on Taiwan stuff and on Israel stuff in the UN.
00:20:15.000But other than that, like we should have really just kept them, merge it with Guam, merge it with the Marianas and have like a Pacifica state.
00:20:22.000How cool would it be if the U.S. had Pacifica state just spanning the entire Pacific Ocean and they had Northlandia spanning the north?
00:21:28.000And they have these drawings of the people of Greenland that were there like 800 years ago.
00:21:35.000And it makes you think, like, these people survived a negative 10-degree weather with insanely harsh winds and a very unforgiving climate, like, 800 years ago.
00:21:46.000I mean, these are tough, tough people.
00:21:48.000And I know that's not the only culture like that.
00:23:12.000I mean, it is a worldwide phenomenon, guys.
00:23:17.000So let me ask a question, Blake, Jack, and Tyler.
00:23:21.000Knowing what you know, and I'm going to kind of just listen because I have my own thoughts, obviously, being on the ground and listening to things.
00:23:28.000How do you think Donald Trump should go about brokering this deal?
00:23:32.000So I threw out on social media yesterday just sort of an opening bid.
00:23:37.000We all know that President Trump has stated pretty forcefully, even in his first term, that one of the things that he seeks to do with the NATO alliance, which Blake just mentioned, that we basically foot the bill for all of Europe's defense.
00:23:52.000And in return, President Trump has been really pounding the table.
00:23:55.000And of course, there's that famous picture of him with Angela Merkel.
00:23:58.000And the great Shinzo Abe, the late great Shinzo Abe, you know, crossing his arms and staring at her because he's demanding that the NATO member states up their GDP expenditure on defense to 5%.
00:24:11.000And I say, well, just give Denmark a break on that for, I don't know, a period of five years, five to ten years.
00:29:19.000The Panama Canal is a good example, where we built it, we gave it to Panama for free, under an understanding you wouldn't let the Chinese get this huge influence in it, and that's not proving to be true.
00:29:32.000I would be willing to play some pretty decent hardball there on a canal we built.
00:29:36.000But Greenland, we have never actually owned Greenland.
00:29:39.000We occupied it for a bit during World War II, but we did give it back.
00:29:45.000Essentially, I think it would greatly damage our relationships with a lot of countries if we invaded and took a country's territory.
00:29:53.000Greenland was right of conquest because Denmark in, what, 1940-whatever, was occupied by the Nazis and the deposed-in-exile prime minister of Greenland then signed the Mutual Defense Treaty of...
00:30:09.000Greenland with us so that the Nazis wouldn't be able to use Greenland as a launching platform for the United States or anything like that.
00:30:16.000So that's when we put our military there.
00:30:39.000But for for Greenland, I would argue that the United States has been providing military defense to Greenland for far longer than a lot of people are pointing out.
00:30:48.000And in a way that does actually grant us certain rights to it.
00:30:52.000So what I will say is, let's say Denmark just says they don't want to play ball.
00:30:58.000I think the way you go about it, rather than just kicking the door, which I think...
00:31:02.000Is a can of worms, at least, that would probably not be great?
00:31:06.000You could just say, we're going to support, like, we back Greenland separatists, because as Charlie says, he met a lot of people there who don't like the Danes and wish that they could go their own way.
00:31:21.000Greenland's right to self-determination, and if Greenland were to become independent or break away, we would have an offer for them to join the United States on these generous terms, and we would be happy to welcome them in as a U.S. territory, and if you do that, we'll give you these rights to economic development, we'll give you this, this, this, this, this, and if you wanted to, you know, become a state, maybe we could even say, if you want to become a state, we'll let you become a state.
00:31:47.000So I think that's how you go about it.
00:31:48.000And then you basically, you create the impetus for Greenland to decide that it wants to do this.
00:31:54.000And if the Greenland people are saying, 60% of them, 75% of them say, we'd rather go with America, the Danes are, they're ultimately Scandinavian.
00:32:04.000Scandinavian people kind of like classic, you know, democracy that's sort of...
00:32:09.000I think it would be very difficult for Denmark to just maintain that they won't let Greenland do it if a very large number of them want to do it.
00:33:17.000If the left figures this out, we could be in trouble.
00:33:19.000They're the one place where the left figured out if we just become anti-immigration, we'll win lots of elections.
00:33:25.000And so it's the left-wing party in Denmark just said, okay, we're going to cut immigration and they win their elections and they do just fine.
00:33:32.000And Denmark will continue to exist as a country as a result.
00:33:40.000Let's now move to the DEI. Let's go to DEI Fire.
00:33:44.000Now, in some ways, the Charlie Kirk Show today was a little bit thought-crimey.
00:33:48.000I mean, here's how you know that you are over the target.
00:33:52.000When you say stuff on the Charlie Kirk Show that otherwise should be said on thought-crime, and not one Media Matters article is written up.
00:35:04.000Says one of her top missions is to create systemic equity and inclusion across the LAFD. She created a new DEI bureau within the LA Fire Department.
00:38:48.000And there's just not always a really bad fire.
00:38:51.000So you can go years where you have a fake fire department and you're not going to notice a big problem.
00:38:55.000And it only comes out now when finally there is the sort of crisis you only get every, you know, five years, 10 years, 50 years hitting Los Angeles.
00:39:04.000And you need to have those strong institutions in place.
00:39:08.000And instead you have a fake fire department.
00:39:10.000You have a fire department that exists to give astonishingly well-paid jobs and astonishingly well-funded pensions to these, like, freaks who can't do the job and get angry if you tell them to do the job and give you a political election.
00:39:26.000And they just exist to soak up public money in this sick way.
00:39:30.000And we're seeing this, and as I was saying, it's the rot that happens in every little spot.
00:39:34.000So I've talked to people who say, what caused this to happen?
00:40:31.000And, well, we have assets that they sent to Ukraine.
00:40:33.000We have budget cuts that they reallocated towards DEI, both in terms of they cut the LAFD's budget, and they moved budget within the LAFD to their new DEI bureau.
00:40:44.000And then they also just made it illegal to collect water in California.
00:40:49.000Literally disassembled dams that existed to make reservoirs.
00:40:54.000They have let rainwater wash out into the Pacific Ocean uselessly because they say it helps like a delta smelt or whatever the heck the names of these fish are.
00:41:05.000It's every step of the way California has done a thing that makes them 1 or 2% more likely for this to happen and now as a result we're just going to burn down the nicest neighborhood in Los Angeles.
00:41:23.000Oh, no, I was just going to bring up that all of this just reminds me, and we, on Human Events today, we were getting into the movie Chinatown, which I don't know if people know about, but it's this old Jack Nicholson movie, just incredible film, and the whole thing is about the Los Angeles, California, the water wars.
00:41:43.000And we've got this clip on it where basically it's talking about how the water supply is used by the elites in California and, of course, highly stylized in this murder plot in order to decrease property values so that the developers can come in and purchase all of it and then increase it when they put the water to it.
00:42:06.000So let's play clip 142. It's Chinatown.
00:42:42.000And for long-standing thought crime viewers, you might also recognize that the villain there is played by John Huston, who he himself is the father of Danny Huston, who also plays the developer, who is the main antagonist of Yellowstone.
00:43:02.000So you see it all comes full circle, folks.
00:43:05.000The Yellowstoning, the Hicklibs, the California water wars, it's all indelibly tied together.
00:43:12.000It's this really cool way to look at, basically understanding how our world works through the understanding of Hollywood propaganda and the deconstruction of it. - I know this is kind of a very simple question and kind of cliche, Do you think this will result in any political changes?
00:43:53.000Adam Carolla made a good point that people are going to want to rebuild that area very quickly.
00:43:59.000And there's a lot of libs that live in there that are touchy-feely libs that are down on the coast that are in that area.
00:44:08.000And they're going to be really ticked off.
00:44:10.000They're going to weaponize the California permitting process.
00:44:13.000Yeah, they're going to have to go through that process with all the local permitting, everything.
00:44:20.000The organic, natural episode that's going to happen is that all these woke, lib, feel-good coastal Californians are going to get so mad at the government with what they're going to have to do to rebuild that it's going to make them hardcore right-wingers.
00:44:36.000I mean, it is really crazy when you read about...
00:44:38.000Have you heard of the California Coastal Commission?
00:44:42.000It's almost like the comparison that comes to mind is actually like the Federal Reserve in a weird way because Federal Reserve is independent and they kind of just do their own thing.
00:44:52.000And even the president currently sort of just has to look and be like, okay, the Fed.
00:44:56.000You know, Trump will go on Twitter and nag the chairman of the Fed to do something because it's an independent agency and Trump wants to change that, of course, but that's the way it is currently.
00:45:04.000And it's like the same thing, I believe, with the CCC. They're basically this rogue entity that has...
00:45:10.000Legal imprimatur to essentially make whatever law they want over anything concerning California's thousand mile coastline.
00:45:18.000And so they've just gone out and they're like, oh yeah, we're just going to ban, you know, building anything in this entire area.
00:45:23.000And to make the comparison, Charlie, to Hawaii, there's not that many people that live where the Lahaina incident happened in Maui.
00:45:31.000There is a ton of people who live within that immediate geography of where this has happened.
00:45:37.000And so you're going to have a lot more vocal, a lot more angry, a lot of wealthy people who have a lot to lose.
00:45:46.000Generational type wealth that's been basically cemented into that part of the country that they're going to be in all out war with the government.
00:45:55.000And just like you're mentioning, like this is like we're talking about made up.
00:45:59.000You know, fictitious type California-style government that's down on the coastline.
00:46:03.000And, you know, we're joking about Baja California and everything else, but, like, this is going to be something that I think is going to be a real big break in politics in Southern California that's going to force not just from the...
00:46:16.000And don't forget, the coastline is where it's the deepest blue.
00:46:46.000Tremendously right, tremendously pro-Trump this last election.
00:46:49.000This may be the straw that breaks the camel's back that sends Southern California into a 20-, 30-year slide that may be where people don't forget this for a long time between COVID policies and then this, where you might win back big chunks of Southern California that we've lost for the last 20 years.
00:47:10.000So just to get back on that, specifically the California Coastal Commission.
00:47:22.000The U.S. government wanted to launch more satellites from Vandenberg Space Force Base in Southern California to put up satellites for Starlink, and it's good for us to launch satellites into space.
00:47:32.000And the California Coastal Commission shut this down, because apparently they just have the power to do this.
00:47:46.000Commission Chair Carol Hart said this is why.
00:47:51.000The head of which has aggressively injected himself into the presidential race.
00:47:56.000And then we have Mike Wilson, also a commissioner.
00:48:00.000This company is owned by the richest person in the world with direct control of what could be the most expansive communication system on the planet.
00:48:07.000And this man has talked about political retribution.
00:48:11.000So we have these political lunatics who just took over this independent commission, and they basically just have decided they have veto power over doing anything or building anything within, you know, like 3,000 feet or something, or like three miles, something like that, of California's coastline.
00:48:31.000They're probably going to try to do...
00:48:32.000Even if they aren't right now, there will be people who will try to manipulate this process.
00:48:36.000California is one of the worst states in the country for clogging things up with lawsuits.
00:48:41.000Even if California tries to open the way, there will be some environmental group that will say, oh yeah, there were grandfathered things where you were allowed to do this because your house was 100 years old.
00:49:11.000It's so far beyond that with the Senate, the Assembly that they have there, the governor, who, by the way, has political aspirations to be president.
00:49:21.000The California Coastal Commission is made up of people who are appointed by the governor and the Senate.
00:49:33.000Everything you just said is basically the voice box of Gavin Newsom because they take direct orders from these people.
00:49:41.000They don't hop, skip, or jump without running it by the Senate, the Assembly, because they could get yanked or replaced probably pretty quickly.
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