The Charlie Kirk Show - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 70 — Seatgate? Best Executive Orders? Panda Express?

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00:01:27.000 Okay, everybody.

00:01:28.000 It is Thought Crime Thursday, live from the Imperial Capitol.

00:01:32.000 Can we get the wide shot going here?

00:01:34.000 Can we just go wide?

00:01:35.000 Look at this!

00:01:36.000 Is that not the greatest looking thing you've ever seen?

00:01:38.000 Charlie, is it DCTC? It's like a DCTC. It's a DCTC. That's right.

00:01:45.000 So, is there only one remote guest?

00:01:48.000 Is it Blake?

00:01:49.000 It's Blake.

00:01:49.000 Why did Blake leave?

00:01:50.000 You can't escape me.

00:01:52.000 No one told me to stay.

00:01:53.000 I was only booked through Tuesday.

00:01:55.000 I specifically said, let's all do thought crime in D.C. Yeah, you said it yesterday.

00:02:01.000 And then I'm like, hey, where are you, Blake?

00:02:03.000 And you're like, oh, I flew back to Phoenix.

00:02:06.000 It is great to see you all.

00:02:08.000 We are here live from D.C. So much to recap and go over.

00:02:12.000 I really want to spend time to kind of go through inauguration weekend before we even get into some of the substance of all the...

00:02:21.000 What is the best way to start this conversation, Jack?

00:02:25.000 I know that there's some prompting here.

00:02:29.000 Charlie Kirk is very naughty.

00:02:33.000 Charlie Kirk is very bad.

00:02:35.000 How dare Charlie Kirk be allowed to have a place of honor in the inauguration, in the inaugural hall, or whatever we're calling the Capitol Rotunda from the day of, because this became the big sort of Talk of the, you know, the whisper talk of DC. Everybody knows the way Washington DC, and it is a very historic kind of...

00:02:58.000 You know, kind of discussion as to, you know, so who is seated closest to the king?

00:03:02.000 You know, your proximity is power, etc.

00:03:04.000 Which is, and by the way, which is true.

00:03:06.000 This is actually true.

00:03:08.000 But there was a lot of chatter that certain House Republicans were very, very upset that Charlie Kirk, who isn't even an elected member of Congress, got to sit in a better seat.

00:03:21.000 Not just Charlie Kirk, plus wife.

00:03:23.000 Charlie Kirk plus wife.

00:03:24.000 How dare we?

00:03:26.000 How dare we?

00:03:27.000 Let's show some of these pictures.

00:03:28.000 We're allowed to sit closer than some of them.

00:03:31.000 So, obviously, we know that the outdoor service ceremony was canceled.

00:03:37.000 By the way, right decision.

00:03:38.000 Would you agree, Andrew?

00:03:39.000 I tell you what.

00:03:40.000 I think it was absolutely 100%, 1,000% the right decision.

00:03:44.000 But, Charlie, you're bringing up another sort of controversy.

00:03:48.000 Was it because of the weather or were there other concerns?

00:03:51.000 And so I just want to...

00:03:52.000 Flag that in case you want to go back to it, because I would like to.

00:03:55.000 Well, no, I'm just saying that if you even walked outside in the cold, the wind, people would have died.

00:04:02.000 People do not appreciate how bone-chillingly cold it is in D.C. right now.

00:04:06.000 Now, for me, a Chicagoan, I was like, okay, just wear more clothing.

00:04:08.000 But you don't understand.

00:04:09.000 There's people from all across the country that are coming in that'll drive in from Georgia and South Carolina that are not used to this.

00:04:14.000 Some old person would have died.

00:04:16.000 Donald Trump saved lives before he was even in office.

00:04:19.000 So it got moved into the Capitol Rotunda.

00:04:21.000 It was actually my first time ever in the Rotunda, believe it or not.

00:04:24.000 I've done the Capitol thing.

00:04:26.000 Wait, what?

00:04:26.000 Really?

00:04:27.000 You've never been in the Capitol Rotunda?

00:04:29.000 Never?

00:04:29.000 Yeah, I've been in the Capitol.

00:04:30.000 I was in the area where the State of the Union is administered, the House chamber.

00:04:34.000 Right.

00:04:35.000 I've been in the Senate chamber, but never the Rotunda.

00:04:38.000 But that's like...

00:04:39.000 You've never done the tourist thing?

00:04:42.000 So I have to give a little inside baseball here.

00:04:46.000 I got to do a tour in which Speaker Johnson...

00:04:50.000 I know.

00:04:51.000 We like him.

00:04:53.000 Okay, ish.

00:04:54.000 He's doing some good stuff.

00:04:55.000 He gave us a private tour.

00:04:57.000 Andrew's going to get so much hate mail.

00:04:59.000 Freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:05:01.000 Let me have it.

00:05:02.000 Listen, I got an opportunity to do a private tour and then Speaker Johnson addressed the tour.

00:05:08.000 Okay?

00:05:09.000 And they actually took us...

00:05:12.000 Uh, inside the area where they were setting up the luncheon and where they were going to do the actual swearing in, and I got to see the rotunda and all that stuff.

00:05:21.000 So I wasn't like Charlie exclusive by any means.

00:05:24.000 Uh, but it was very, very cool.

00:05:27.000 And I will tell you, it's way, Charlie, you had this experience, I'm sure, as well.

00:05:31.000 It's way smaller in person.

00:05:33.000 That whole space is way smaller in person than it appears on TV. It's super small.

00:05:37.000 It's extremely tight.

00:05:38.000 And so there was kind of the war over ticketing.

00:05:42.000 So let's kind of show the picture of the rotunda from the interior.

00:05:45.000 So as things got announced, there was a nonstop fight from donors, influencers, elected officials of who actually gets in the rotunda.

00:05:55.000 Now this is very complicated because the Presidential Inaugural Committee, otherwise known as JASIC, Does not control all the tickets.

00:06:04.000 It is a joint committee between the Senate, the House, and the incoming administration.

00:06:10.000 So as soon as you decide to go in the rotunda, you are 100% in Article 1 land within the House and the Senate.

00:06:18.000 So therefore, if you look at the picture, before you even get to some of Trump's friends outside of the dais, and I'll get to the dais in a second, it's all senators.

00:06:28.000 So the senators hogged All of the tickets up front.

00:06:31.000 You're in controlled territory there.

00:06:32.000 They control that land.

00:06:33.000 To just put this in perspective, there were about 680 seats in the rotunda.

00:06:40.000 About 400 of them were for Congress.

00:06:44.000 So there was only 230 tickets allocated for Trump and his team, family, and even some select donors.

00:06:52.000 So a huge war over actually who gets ticketing.

00:06:55.000 There was an overflow room.

00:06:57.000 Where people like Theo Vaughn were, and Logan Paul, and Megyn Kelly, and all the governors.

00:07:02.000 All the governors were in the overflow room, right?

00:07:04.000 So super honored, and thank you to Susie, and thank you to everyone who worked so hard on this for approving, not just myself, but also Erica, big, big lift.

00:07:14.000 And that's a big deal, right?

00:07:16.000 It was a huge honor.

00:07:17.000 And actually, it was a huge honor for all of us that work on all of our...

00:07:22.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:07:23.000 The fact that we had a literal seat at the...

00:07:26.000 I was so touched to be able to just be included.

00:07:43.000 In fact, there was no difference between how you entered.

00:07:49.000 I entered alongside of Ketanji Brown Jackson, Brett Kavanaugh.

00:07:55.000 Clarence Thomas, the whole Supreme Court walked in as I walked in.

00:07:58.000 Literally, we were just kind of walking in together.

00:08:00.000 There was no guard.

00:08:03.000 It was just all kind of one line as you enter from outside into the Capitol.

00:08:10.000 By the way, I need to tell my CCP story.

00:08:12.000 It's an exclusive story I haven't told, which actually plays into this morning.

00:08:15.000 Have you debriefed this yet?

00:08:19.000 I guess we don't have any national security confirmed cabinet members.

00:08:23.000 I have told Mike Waltz about this.

00:08:25.000 It's a very serious issue.

00:08:27.000 I'll get to the CCP story later in the program because it's worth it.

00:08:31.000 Anyway, honored to have been included.

00:08:34.000 I started to get text messages while I'm sitting in there that this woman tweeted saying that some anonymous Republican lawmaker was mad.

00:08:44.000 That I had better tickets than them.

00:08:46.000 Now, mind you, Eric Swalwell was literally right behind me.

00:08:49.000 Now, I think I deserve great praise.

00:08:52.000 Because I went through high road virality.

00:08:58.000 High road virality.

00:08:59.000 I said, here we are at a presidential inauguration.

00:09:02.000 And I wanted so badly, when it was over, to take out my phone and say, hey, Congressman Swalwell, are you accepting the pardon?

00:09:09.000 Are you accepting the pardon?

00:09:10.000 Because he was on the J6 committee.

00:09:12.000 I decided not to do it.

00:09:13.000 See, I had the same situation, although it was with other Republicans when we were at the ball.

00:09:18.000 And I was like, you know, this would really go viral with a certain, I don't know, maybe Congresswoman from South Carolina or certain other conservative talkers.

00:09:30.000 But, you know, I was like, you know what?

00:09:31.000 It's a day for unity.

00:09:33.000 It's a day for the president.

00:09:34.000 It's not a day for that.

00:09:35.000 It's not a day for that, right, Charlie?

00:09:36.000 It wasn't a day for that.

00:09:37.000 It wasn't a day for that.

00:09:38.000 Let's put 155 up on screen.

00:09:40.000 Here were these lunatics.

00:09:42.000 Brad Schneider, I don't know who these other people, Eric Swalwell.

00:09:45.000 That was when Donald Trump said, and God saved my life, and all the Democrats were sitting.

00:09:49.000 It turned into a mini State of the Union vibe, where like half the room...

00:09:52.000 Would stand and applaud and half the room would kind of sit.

00:09:55.000 But it was because of the rotunda, the noise echoes and actually had a really good energy to it.

00:10:00.000 On TV, how did it feel?

00:10:02.000 On TV, it played like a massive applause line where he said, I've, you know, became convinced that God saved my life to make America great again.

00:10:10.000 It was a huge moment, like chills moment.

00:10:14.000 And so when you sent that picture, I mean, I was getting like live feedback.

00:10:17.000 I saw the picture in our chat.

00:10:19.000 I was like, like, you know, you're like.

00:10:22.000 We're getting this up.

00:10:23.000 I was like, okay.

00:10:26.000 I think it did almost two million engagements.

00:10:30.000 People saw that picture.

00:10:31.000 By the way, after it, about five minutes after, Swallow would stand up for almost every applause line.

00:10:35.000 I think some staffer texted him, like, Charlie Kirk is roasting you, stand up!

00:10:39.000 And it was hilarious to kind of see as it was happening.

00:10:45.000 I loved watching and looking at Obama and Hillary.

00:10:48.000 That's a separate...

00:10:49.000 But that dynamic of the speech...

00:10:52.000 I mean, Jack, I think you would agree, was what made this not only a historic moment, because we can all feel that the country is on the verge and in the midst of something truly transformational in a positive sense, but the context, doing all of that, the salt in the wound as Joe Biden and Barack Obama.

00:11:12.000 And mind you, we knew that Joe Biden just pardoned his family, but Trump did not.

00:11:17.000 That's what's so remarkable.

00:11:18.000 But it was this incredible juxtaposition.

00:11:21.000 Of seeing the, essentially, the hegemonic force and power structure of the previous regimes right there having to swallow these very harsh words.

00:11:33.000 It was a regime change.

00:11:34.000 It was a regime change.

00:11:35.000 And it was incredibly powerful.

00:11:39.000 And a different politician would have used that moment and softened his language, pulled his punches.

00:11:45.000 Trump pulled no punches.

00:11:47.000 I mean, maybe a little bit.

00:11:48.000 He likes to say that Melania took out a couple of the paragraphs that were a little bit stronger.

00:11:53.000 It was strong as it was.

00:11:55.000 And to see Joe Biden have to sit there and listen to it, Barack Obama, Hillary and Bill Clinton, and the whole George Bush, it was really incredible.

00:12:06.000 I think one of the truly historic pictures, just from an optics standpoint, that we will ever live to witness.

00:12:14.000 And to see it in such a tight...

00:12:15.000 Frame, too.

00:12:16.000 Again, on TV, you do not understand how tight of a space that is.

00:12:21.000 I mean, these guys are breathing down each other's necks inside that space.

00:12:24.000 Charlie, had you ever been that close to Obama and Hillary before?

00:12:27.000 No.

00:12:28.000 I actually had never seen Obama in person.

00:12:30.000 What was that like?

00:12:32.000 It was something.

00:12:33.000 I mean, it's hard to kind of put in words.

00:12:36.000 They just look different but similar in person, I guess, is the way you could say.

00:12:41.000 And, I mean, Hillary just is such a disgusting person.

00:12:46.000 I've met George W. Bush before, but you have to look at it.

00:12:49.000 That ensemble of people will never happen again.

00:12:52.000 It'll never happen.

00:12:53.000 That particular ensemble of people will never be re-graded.

00:12:56.000 Michelle, I don't know.

00:12:58.000 I don't know what's going on there.

00:13:00.000 Jennifer Aniston would have some words.

00:13:01.000 Trouble in paradise.

00:13:06.000 Okay, strange story.

00:13:08.000 Not to go into too much detail, my wife came with me on this trip and her friend made dinner reservations for us.

00:13:15.000 And so on the, I guess it was the Saturday night before inauguration, I was at a restaurant in D.C., and all of a sudden, like, I would say half, because this whole town has been pretty magnified during inauguration, right?

00:13:28.000 I mean, just pure numbers.

00:13:29.000 Total takeover.

00:13:29.000 Yeah, I mean, it's like, it's got to be 60, 40 conservatives.

00:13:32.000 And no resistance.

00:13:32.000 And, yeah, there's very little protest.

00:13:34.000 I haven't seen a single protest.

00:13:36.000 Jack, you had to go hunting for them.

00:13:37.000 Anyways, the point is, all of a sudden, half the audience, it was muted.

00:13:41.000 Starts clapping, and you hear one woman cheer.

00:13:44.000 And it was Barack Obama eating at the same restaurant as me, like whizzes by, I feel the air behind my head, and I'm like trying to figure out why people are cheering, and then my wife's friend goes, Barack Obama just like exited.

00:13:58.000 So I turn, and I never even saw the guy.

00:14:01.000 I just felt the air past me, heard the cheers, and apparently he whizzed right past me.

00:14:06.000 It was a very DC moment, I will say.

00:14:08.000 And so, all that to say, I got attacked for having good seats, but...

00:14:14.000 It wasn't just me, it was also Erica, and they were really sweet to include her, because all the other congressional spouses, this is what made them really mad, all the congressional spouses were in the overflow room.

00:14:22.000 So the congressional spouses were in the overflow room, and Erica got in, and she deserves it, because we were all part of this kind of historic and triumphant moment.

00:14:31.000 And it was just larger than life, breathtaking, and yeah, that seat gate.

00:14:38.000 And then Jim Banks, Senator Jim Banks, walk through that as well.

00:14:42.000 We have this tweet.

00:14:43.000 Well, actually, I just saw Senator Jim Banks like five minutes before the program.

00:14:47.000 Jim Banks is part of this new guard that you've been talking about that really has it.

00:14:50.000 Okay, throw up 166. I know you had it before.

00:14:54.000 So this is Julia Grace Brufke.

00:14:59.000 And Julia Grace is a senior Washington reporter, sort of known.

00:15:04.000 She's with the Daily Beast.

00:15:07.000 She's fine.

00:15:08.000 Everything's fine.

00:15:09.000 She's actually used to work at the Washington Examiner, believe it or not.

00:15:12.000 So she says, Charlie Kirk has better seats than every member of Congress.

00:15:16.000 Tells you how little Trump team thinks of Congress.

00:15:19.000 One GOP lawmaker tells me.

00:15:21.000 Then, let's go to 167, Jim Banks chimes in and says, Charlie Kirk has done more than most members of Congress combined to get us to this point today.

00:15:31.000 Which was, I thought, a really nice thing for Jim Banks to sort of say.

00:15:35.000 Organically, I didn't ask him to do that.

00:15:37.000 Yeah, and you retweeted it because I thought it was a great point and you thought it was a great point and good for Jim Banks.

00:15:42.000 And I would say Jim Banks is a really good barometer of when we get into confirmation talks, when we get into...

00:15:50.000 How do we get the president's agenda across the finish line?

00:15:53.000 Jim Banks is a perfect embodiment of this new guard, Bernie Moreno.

00:15:59.000 I just saw Bernie too.

00:16:00.000 These guys are get it done guys.

00:16:05.000 These guys are totally on the team.

00:16:07.000 They're not this vestige of the past of a bygone Republican Party that nobody's just...

00:16:13.000 Taking the time to raise $50 million to primary, right?

00:16:16.000 But these guys are with it.

00:16:18.000 And Jim's totally on the team.

00:16:20.000 And I love that he did that for you.

00:16:22.000 But let's show a picture of your seating location, Charlie.

00:16:27.000 164. Let's go ahead.

00:16:28.000 We dropped an arrow.

00:16:30.000 Now, if you think they were mad, just to be clear, if the original dais would have stood, the tickets would have been even better.

00:16:38.000 Meaning that because of all the capital mix-up in the House and the Senate.

00:16:42.000 You mean had it been outside?

00:16:43.000 Had it been outside, I would have been two or three rows back from the people that were on the dais with Trump inside.

00:16:50.000 I don't know if I understand what you're saying.

00:16:51.000 So like, for example, where Elon was and where the cabinet was.

00:16:55.000 You would have been three rows behind him.

00:16:56.000 I would have been like in that group.

00:16:57.000 Oh, wow.

00:16:58.000 If it would have been outside.

00:16:59.000 That's amazing.

00:17:00.000 Yeah, heads would have really exploded.

00:17:02.000 But because it went inside.

00:17:03.000 It was like, hey, I really want Erica there.

00:17:06.000 It was kind of some like, yeah, sure.

00:17:08.000 And I just like, I want to be in the room.

00:17:09.000 I don't care if I have a terrible ticket.

00:17:10.000 And well, apparently it wasn't terrible enough.

00:17:13.000 No, no, I'm not saying it was terrible.

00:17:14.000 No, no, I just I'm saying that was actually awesome.

00:17:16.000 I saw everything.

00:17:17.000 I love that Swalwell was behind you.

00:17:19.000 I was super honored and it was just treated so well.

00:17:22.000 And again, it was just kind of blown away because last inauguration, I was like.

00:17:26.000 Looking up in the cheap seats.

00:17:28.000 I see a little dot.

00:17:30.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:17:30.000 Well, I mean, it's a whole new day in Washington.

00:17:33.000 I will tell you, a little vibe check on the ground, Jack.

00:17:36.000 You could be good on this.

00:17:37.000 I just feel like this city, even in Trump 1.0, in the first term, I don't feel at all conspicuous being loud and proud of what I'm thinking.

00:17:47.000 I don't hold back opinions at the restaurant or at coffee.

00:17:53.000 I'm out and proud, and I don't even...

00:17:55.000 You know, before...

00:17:56.000 Well, it's like the resistance is quiet.

00:17:58.000 Yeah, it's just like everybody kind of...

00:18:00.000 It's just non-existent, right?

00:18:01.000 See, but I worry that that's...

00:18:04.000 I worry if that's a false sense of security because...

00:18:08.000 It's totally possible.

00:18:08.000 This town is still this town, all right?

00:18:10.000 You know, the cockroaches are dug deep.

00:18:14.000 But the vermin are on the run.

00:18:15.000 They're very...

00:18:16.000 We're getting a lot of them fired.

00:18:18.000 A lot of them are on notice.

00:18:20.000 A lot of them know that they are probably...

00:18:24.000 You know, gotta...

00:18:25.000 Listen, the president has every right to get...

00:18:27.000 This town's been around a lot longer than any of the three of us.

00:18:30.000 I totally agree.

00:18:31.000 But they legitimately do feel threatened for their future, and they're not going to pop their head up just now.

00:18:37.000 They are, and that's why...

00:18:38.000 The best take is they don't know where to fight.

00:18:39.000 Yeah, they're all turtling right now.

00:18:41.000 They're sort of in, you know, kind of in, like, receive mode.

00:18:46.000 Okay.

00:18:46.000 What do I do?

00:18:47.000 How do I hunker down?

00:18:48.000 How do I, you know, let's leak some stuff on Hegseth.

00:18:50.000 Let's leak some stuff on Tulsi.

00:18:52.000 Let's, you know, see if we can get that going there.

00:18:54.000 Get, you know, Murkowski, Collins came out.

00:18:57.000 You know, is McConnell going to vote?

00:18:58.000 Who knows?

00:18:58.000 Whatever.

00:18:59.000 Is J.D. going to have to come back to town to be the tiebreaker?

00:19:02.000 Whatever.

00:19:02.000 Point being is, it's a muted response.

00:19:06.000 Far muted.

00:19:07.000 Obviously, you're not seeing the Antifa riots like we saw in 2017. The limos burning, the attack on the deplorable, et cetera, et cetera.

00:19:14.000 That said, I'm just saying, guys, we haven't quite...

00:19:19.000 Stay frosty.

00:19:20.000 Stay frosty.

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00:20:29.000 Is just such a dramatic, dramatic shift.

00:20:32.000 And you look at President Trump's approval ratings.

00:20:34.000 I mean, he's above water right now.

00:20:36.000 Which is why they're scared of really coming out.

00:20:40.000 And really also why, and I know we're kind of changing the conversation a little bit, but it's why, and Charlie, I'd love to get your thoughts on this, the flood the zone strategy has been brilliant.

00:20:55.000 I don't think they should let up.

00:20:57.000 I think that it's been so successful that the longer you wait to do things, the more time it's going to give this town, the media, the left, whatever you want to call it, the deep state staters, time to respond.

00:21:13.000 But if you're firing on all pistons, if you're doing the full court press, they don't have time to respond because there's too many things coming down the pipe at once.

00:21:21.000 The minute you slow up...

00:21:23.000 That's what gives them time to get their ducks in a row and get a response off.

00:21:27.000 Look, I think you have to continue to flood the zone.

00:21:30.000 And by the way, this is happening in multiple volleys.

00:21:33.000 There's a reason why it's day one, day two, day three.

00:21:35.000 You can't keep up with it.

00:21:37.000 I mean, today was JFK Files.

00:21:38.000 Yesterday was affirmative action.

00:21:40.000 The day before that was January 6th.

00:21:41.000 I mean, those are three monumental things.

00:21:44.000 Yeah, and the pro-lifers.

00:21:45.000 So where do they even focus their media attention?

00:21:47.000 Understand, the media is largely the life force and the signal for where a lot of these people end up fighting.

00:21:52.000 Now, they're going to try.

00:21:53.000 The stops and the stuff in the courts.

00:21:54.000 But pardon power is absolute.

00:21:55.000 They can't challenge that.

00:21:57.000 So that's happening.

00:21:58.000 January 6th is absolute.

00:21:59.000 The affirmative action EO is just rescinding another EO. So the DEI stuff is completely within the power and the authority of the current president.

00:22:06.000 But also understand that so much of this, the next wave is Pete Hexeth.

00:22:11.000 The next wave after that is going to be Pam Bondi.

00:22:15.000 For example, wait until Kash Patel and Pam Bondi can go, we want a review of all cases over the last eight years.

00:22:20.000 We want to know what's pending, current investigations, people are looking into, you know, subpoenas, and they have to go look into all the active case files.

00:22:27.000 I mean, that's going to be a whole new wave.

00:22:29.000 And the FISA warrants.

00:22:31.000 Well, that's, yeah, exactly.

00:22:32.000 They're going to see who's got active FISA warrants out on them.

00:22:36.000 Tulsi's going to be instrumental in that and making sure that gets across.

00:22:39.000 So who are they looking at right now?

00:22:41.000 Who was there?

00:22:42.000 And this is something that I'm even still waiting to hear.

00:22:45.000 Was there a...

00:22:46.000 Carter Page of 2024 or George Papadopoulos, someone that they used to go after.

00:22:52.000 Unsuccessfully.

00:22:53.000 Right.

00:22:54.000 Well, unsuccessfully in terms of infiltration, but successfully in terms of getting a FISA warrant against them.

00:22:59.000 I don't know, but I'm just saying I'm looking at the past track record.

00:23:03.000 I'm noticing a pattern.

00:23:06.000 This is basic pattern recognition.

00:23:07.000 This is thought crime after all.

00:23:08.000 And we're saying, look, I don't trust these guys.

00:23:11.000 I don't trust these guys for one second.

00:23:13.000 And not to mention just the very basic stuff about what does the FBI actually know about Thomas Matthew Crooks, Ryan Wesley Ralph, the people who tried to We

00:23:44.000 don't know the half of it.

00:23:47.000 And it's just, it's a reminder, like, with this blitzkrieg that we're all living through, this flooding the zone.

00:23:53.000 Well, careful there, Elon.

00:23:54.000 Awesome.

00:23:55.000 Which is awesome.

00:23:56.000 I use that on my show every day.

00:23:58.000 Meeting Matters hasn't written it up yet.

00:24:00.000 So here's what I'll say, though, is that there is a possibility that we forget to review the important stuff, right?

00:24:07.000 That we forget to, like...

00:24:08.000 By the way, another thing I want to find out about, Jack, Las Vegas shooting.

00:24:12.000 Uh-oh.

00:24:13.000 You know what I mean?

00:24:14.000 These things that have been hidden from public view, and we don't really have an insight on it, I'm excited to get into it, and I think there's a real possibility.

00:24:24.000 But there's just so much news that it's even hard to keep your eye on the wall.

00:24:27.000 I want to get Blake in here.

00:24:28.000 Blake, I want you to walk through some of these executive orders.

00:24:31.000 By the way, there are some delightful EOs that did not get any attention.

00:24:35.000 That's what's great about it.

00:24:36.000 For example, did you know that there was an EO signed on the first day?

00:24:41.000 Putting people over fish?

00:24:43.000 No, it's actually on the White House website.

00:24:45.000 Oh, Trump's obsessed with the Delta smell.

00:24:47.000 Stopping radical environmentalism to provide water to Southern California.

00:24:49.000 The title of the EO is Putting People Over Fish.

00:24:52.000 Okay, one second before we go to Blake here.

00:24:55.000 Charlie, I'll never forget.

00:24:56.000 The first time you introduced me to President Trump, he goes, where do you live?

00:25:02.000 And I mentioned California.

00:25:04.000 And President Trump goes into a whole diatribe.

00:25:08.000 This is like probably 2018, 2019, something like that, Charlie.

00:25:12.000 It goes into a whole diatribe about the Delta smelt instantly.

00:25:16.000 As soon as he hears the word California, the guy goes, Delta smelt, water.

00:25:21.000 I mean, this is deep within President Trump's subconscious.

00:25:27.000 Well, it's pretty conscious now.

00:25:28.000 All right.

00:25:28.000 So, Blake, walk through some of your favorite EOs and the profundity of the affirmative action.

00:25:33.000 All right.

00:25:33.000 And all you guys, all of you listening, we have several thousand people here on Rumble Live.

00:25:37.000 Send us chats if you want us to highlight an underrated favorite of yours because we'd love to hear what you all think.

00:25:43.000 Because it really is crazy, Charlie.

00:25:45.000 I've been looking through what it was.

00:25:47.000 And as we discussed, as you discussed on the show the other day, it was in your book.

00:25:53.000 There was a chapter in your book that was this like...

00:25:55.000 Kind of fantasia when we have the next Republican president and it's saying like day one, just imagine a Republican president who drops this order and that order and that order and they just have dozens of them by the end of the day and Washington is bowled over because you're not supposed to do things that fast.

00:26:12.000 And that's actually what they did.

00:26:13.000 It's amazing.

00:26:14.000 It was genuinely extremely exciting to watch, not even being inside the room like you were, but...

00:26:22.000 Let's think.

00:26:22.000 So obviously the big headline item was pardoning all the J6ers right away.

00:26:28.000 And what was so brilliant about that was he gets it out there right away.

00:26:32.000 That's all CNN. They're hyperventilating.

00:26:34.000 That's all they can talk about.

00:26:35.000 That's all MSNBC can talk about.

00:26:38.000 It's quite a bit of what they're talking about at the newspapers.

00:26:41.000 And while he's doing that, he's dropping, okay, we're getting rid of the pride flags at all the embassies and federal buildings.

00:26:48.000 You just wave the American flag.

00:26:50.000 You don't need that second national flag they invented.

00:26:53.000 We're shutting down all the DEI people.

00:26:56.000 We're putting them all on furlough.

00:26:57.000 We're shutting down all those offices.

00:26:58.000 We're going to get rid of them.

00:27:00.000 The craziest one to me, this was my personal favorite, was, this was two nights ago, Tuesday night, like 9 p.m., they announced via Chris Ruffo that...

00:27:13.000 President Trump has signed this, that he's repealing the executive order from LBJ's administration.

00:27:19.000 I believe it's 11-246.

00:27:21.000 It's the executive order that basically created the modern racial racket, the affirmative action racket, where it was supposed to say, don't discriminate.

00:27:32.000 And as Washington loves to do, the courts went and they interpreted this to, it is mandatory that you discriminate against people.

00:27:39.000 And this order repeals that.

00:27:42.000 And also says, by the way, we now actually interpret the Civil Rights Act to do what it says it does, which is that discrimination's illegal.

00:27:50.000 So if you get a contract with the federal government, can't do it.

00:27:53.000 If you're getting a federal grant, like if you're a university, can't do it.

00:27:57.000 This is one of the most important orders any Republican president has done in our lifetimes, on anything.

00:28:05.000 This could be absolutely monumental.

00:28:08.000 And what's amazing about it, Charlie, is it was not the lead story.

00:28:12.000 On CNN, when it dropped, it was not the lead story in the New York Times when it dropped because they were too busy covering J6, covering the furloughing the DEI people, covering confirmation hearings.

00:28:25.000 They were too busy to put any focus on it.

00:28:28.000 And that's what's really been so amazing with the first few days of the Trump administration.

00:28:33.000 It is shock and awe applied to politics.

00:28:36.000 I went and I looked it up.

00:28:38.000 Barack Obama had, I think, 19 executive orders in his first 100 days.

00:28:45.000 No, I think it was 32 executive orders.

00:28:49.000 I can't remember the exact number.

00:28:50.000 Whatever it was, he had some number of executive orders in his first 100 days, and President Trump beat it in about 12 hours.

00:28:59.000 Whoa.

00:29:00.000 Amazing.

00:29:01.000 Remarkable.

00:29:02.000 The great Will Scharf, by the way, taking care of the executive orders, running that on the desk.

00:29:08.000 It was awesome to see him at the Capital One Arena and then in the Oval.

00:29:12.000 So everyone knows.

00:29:15.000 Here's a trivia question Blake might know.

00:29:17.000 Who in American history has had Will Scharf's job before?

00:29:21.000 White House Staff Secretary.

00:29:24.000 Kavanaugh.

00:29:24.000 That's true.

00:29:25.000 Well done.

00:29:26.000 That is right.

00:29:27.000 Ten points to Jack Posobiec.

00:29:29.000 The White House staff secretary...

00:29:31.000 Off the dome, baby.

00:29:33.000 The White House staff secretary, on the surface, seems as if it's like a perfunctory job.

00:29:38.000 It says, controls the paper flow to the president.

00:29:40.000 That is the central nervous system of the entire federal government.

00:29:43.000 They control all the paper.

00:29:44.000 Well, so you think, okay, what is it, like newspapers?

00:29:47.000 No.

00:29:47.000 Anything.

00:29:48.000 Anything the president needs to review or sign, from a national security briefing, to an executive order, to a memo from a foreign leader.

00:29:57.000 Comes through the White House Staff Secretary office.

00:29:59.000 And if there is a comma wrong, if there is an apostrophe wrong, if there is a number where it's like, well, is it Executive Order 1138 or is it Executive Order 1139?

00:30:09.000 It could be the difference between, you know, pardoning somebody for something that you meant or didn't mean.

00:30:15.000 So the White House Staff Secretary, Bill Sharpe, is doing amazing.

00:30:19.000 One of my personal favorites.

00:30:21.000 First of all, I want to read some of the executive orders.

00:30:22.000 We're going to do this on the show because I think we have to go through some of these because they haven't.

00:30:26.000 Gotten the attention that they deserve.

00:30:28.000 This one, Restoring Names That Honor American Greatness.

00:30:32.000 So obviously there's the Gulf of America, which I love.

00:30:36.000 But you go deeper.

00:30:38.000 He's just taking over the entire naming commission to review every single name of national parks and rivers to make sure that they reflect American greatness.

00:30:48.000 I think it's amazing.

00:30:50.000 You should lobby and bring back the old base names.

00:30:54.000 We've got to get those back.

00:30:55.000 I have a high degree of certainty he's going to allow Pete Hegseth to get a victory lap on that one.

00:31:00.000 Base names are coming back.

00:31:01.000 Yeah, that one is good.

00:31:02.000 While we're at it, we should change Beijing back to Peking.

00:31:07.000 China would never recover from that one.

00:31:11.000 You know, you're talking about the imperial capital feeling muted, Jack.

00:31:16.000 On day one, there was an order to review all potential...

00:31:19.000 Oh wait, hold on.

00:31:20.000 Never mind.

00:31:20.000 It was...

00:31:23.000 Basically reclassifying members of the federal civil servants so they are easier to fire and replace, especially if they hinder or sabotage the administration's agenda.

00:31:32.000 So, like, they see all these executive orders coming through.

00:31:35.000 They've heard the rumors about Schedule F. I mean, right?

00:31:38.000 So they're ducking for cover.

00:31:42.000 What do you think all the diversity czars are doing right now?

00:31:45.000 Do you think they're thinking of us?

00:31:47.000 Do you think they're having a good night?

00:31:49.000 There are resumes out there.

00:31:50.000 Oh, we didn't even mention it yet.

00:31:52.000 They're probably too lazy.

00:31:52.000 We didn't even mention it yet.

00:31:54.000 The order for all of the federal workers to go back to work.

00:31:58.000 That was great when he issued it.

00:32:00.000 It's now amazing because I'm finding the federal workers who are whining on the internet.

00:32:05.000 You can go on that giant volcano of soy that is Reddit, and of course they have a federal workers subreddit.

00:32:13.000 Oh, I saw this earlier.

00:32:15.000 They were saying, it's all they'll talk about.

00:32:18.000 They're all freaking out.

00:32:19.000 And the top thread, when I looked at it, I think we posted this on Twitter, they were freaking out where they're saying, we have to fight back.

00:32:27.000 We have to boycott every small business near our office.

00:32:30.000 Don't go to the restaurants.

00:32:32.000 Don't go to the gas stations.

00:32:34.000 Don't shop at the grocery stores.

00:32:35.000 It's such a perfect symbol that they're so angry about having to go to the office that they want to take it out.

00:32:42.000 on small businesses staffed by employees who actually have to go to work for their jobs who actually do real work every day and they want to lash out at them to show how angry they are that they have to go into the office like a normal person because they're such disgraceful and like resentful and pathetic people and then they're also whining

00:33:01.000 uh they were whining below your tweet charlie where they were saying we could make someone literally said we could make infinite money in the private sector but instead they're just self-sacrificially working for the federal government i think when they quit when they start quitting which is one of the reasons we're making them all go back to the office some of the losers will quit i think they will be quite surprised how in demand their skills are or how not in demand some of them are

00:33:30.000 They couldn't make endless money, for the record, most of these people.

00:33:33.000 Now, the ones that could, maybe they will.

00:33:35.000 And this will be the best thing that ever happened to them.

00:33:37.000 But the vast majority of them, you know, and Blake, I think you pointed this out, a lot of these people have, like, side jobs and secondary jobs, and they've basically been fleecing off the government.

00:33:46.000 I'm working on this.

00:33:47.000 I'm working on this.

00:33:48.000 There was a girl.

00:33:50.000 I'm just going to say this.

00:33:51.000 When I was in the intel community, I was at Navy Intelligence, and there was a girl who ran a baking company out of her cubicle at Navy Intelligence.

00:34:00.000 And she would be on the phone, she sold cookies and macaroons and stuff, and she would just be on the phone doing orders while she was on the clock on the government dime.

00:34:10.000 A friend of mine told me today, he has a person he knows, I believe at FAA. Who is a realtor on the side, and his official government phone number connects you directly to the voicemail of his real estate side business.

00:34:26.000 Yeah, that sounds about right.

00:34:28.000 The whole government is full of scams like this.

00:34:31.000 Absolutely full.

00:34:32.000 The amount of executive action, let's just talk about this, Blake.

00:34:36.000 Even for some of the skeptics, I'm sure, Blake, that you know.

00:34:38.000 And Blake is...

00:34:39.000 You know, what is it?

00:34:41.000 Good Trump, bad Trump?

00:34:42.000 He could be contrarian.

00:34:44.000 Is Black Bill Blake returning?

00:34:47.000 No, he's been red, though.

00:34:48.000 He was dormant through the election, but now...

00:34:51.000 Blake, there's some good stuff here.

00:34:52.000 You gotta be honest.

00:34:53.000 I was just raving about it for like five minutes straight, Charlie.

00:34:56.000 No, I know.

00:34:57.000 I just want to talk more broadly, though.

00:34:59.000 Yes, of course.

00:35:00.000 Yeah, I'm very excited.

00:35:01.000 I would urge everyone to remember, as we were saying before we even got into the list, an executive order doesn't make reality by itself.

00:35:09.000 One of the things we did day one was the EO on birthright citizenship.

00:35:13.000 They're saying you don't get birthright citizenship if you're in a legal, if you're a tourist, or even...

00:35:19.000 They're going pretty aggressive.

00:35:20.000 They're saying even if you're certain types of temporary legal resident, like guest workers, you don't benefit from it.

00:35:27.000 That's already been put on hold.

00:35:29.000 A federal judge shot that down right away.

00:35:32.000 We might lose that.

00:35:34.000 We might go all the way to the Supreme Court on that and lose.

00:35:36.000 I'll be frank.

00:35:37.000 We don't change reality with just an executive order.

00:35:41.000 But the level of aggression is great.

00:35:44.000 It keeps everyone off balance.

00:35:45.000 We're going to get wins on at least some, many of these things.

00:35:49.000 And because they're coming out so quickly, you maximize their value over the course of an administration.

00:35:55.000 Like the DEI stuff.

00:35:58.000 It's going to be really hard to disassemble that apparatus.

00:36:02.000 But you're going to get rid of way more of it when you're doing it for 1,400 days than if this came out in year two, in year three.

00:36:10.000 At that point, to get anything out of it, you've got to win the next election.

00:36:13.000 Even if we, heaven forfend, lose the next election, we'll be able to have a ton of impact because we got going on all the important stuff right away.

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00:37:27.000 And it's also just some of the little stuff that might not make a big difference.

00:37:32.000 I was walking through the White House in the Eisenhower Executive Office building and just saw people taking down all the signs that say gender-neutral restrooms or taking down the mask signs.

00:37:47.000 Now, there was one that I do have to make sure that the new Secret Service director addresses.

00:37:52.000 There was a Secret Service guy that was processing me today at the White House, and he had not just a gay pride flag, he had like the trans inverted flag on his vest, Jack.

00:38:05.000 On his Secret Service vest.

00:38:07.000 Yeah, and that's political.

00:38:09.000 At the White House.

00:38:09.000 And by the way, that's political.

00:38:11.000 So do you want to hear something?

00:38:12.000 This might sound a little bit prideful, but I think you guys will cut me slack for not prideful, but typically when I am around police officers, muscular class, National Guard.

00:38:21.000 I get recognized and there's like some like at least some favorite, I'd say one, at least half, right?

00:38:26.000 I know what you mean.

00:38:27.000 Especially if you work in politics, right?

00:38:28.000 No, you can see where I'm going here though.

00:38:29.000 So I go into the White House Secret Service and I get like stone cold response.

00:38:35.000 Yep.

00:38:36.000 Not like, not one, like five, 10, 15, 20. When I do a Secret Service event, like they're always coming up to me.

00:38:41.000 No, they're always like.

00:38:42.000 What I'm going at, what I'm going is that Biden and Kamala.

00:38:46.000 They staffed the White House with, like, loyal...

00:38:49.000 Loyalists.

00:38:49.000 Like, regime.

00:38:51.000 Now, there were some people that came up in the cafeteria.

00:38:53.000 Okay, yeah, you're great.

00:38:54.000 Well, you know, as I was visiting.

00:38:55.000 But it was really interesting.

00:38:56.000 It was very illuminating.

00:38:57.000 It was a big plot.

00:38:58.000 You were getting the hairy eye.

00:39:00.000 The hairy eyeball.

00:39:01.000 No, I was like, geez, okay.

00:39:03.000 Yeah.

00:39:03.000 Because I was expecting, like, oh, you know, welcome back.

00:39:05.000 No, the guy's, he's checking me in.

00:39:07.000 He's got the trans flag.

00:39:08.000 Like, trans flag.

00:39:10.000 It's not just the gay flag.

00:39:11.000 It's the gay one with the triangle.

00:39:14.000 Who could tell the vibe was off, though?

00:39:16.000 Oh, no, I could totally tell the vibe was off.

00:39:17.000 It was like, not even eye contact.

00:39:20.000 But then again, some of the Secret Service guys that might have slipped through the cracks were like, we love you, fist bump, you know.

00:39:25.000 Interestingly, the Hispanic and the black guys were the ones that were the most pro-maga.

00:39:28.000 Oh, can we just dispel this?

00:39:30.000 Can we just dispel this?

00:39:30.000 Most pro-maga, and it was the...

00:39:32.000 Charlie, I've been with you at more events than probably most, and I was...

00:39:35.000 Okay, it's not about Charlie.

00:39:36.000 No, but hold on, hold on.

00:39:37.000 I would just say that you get fist bumps from black and brown, like, dudes.

00:39:43.000 More than just about anything, which is a hilarious thing.

00:39:47.000 But yeah, I mean, go ahead.

00:39:48.000 I don't want to take – this is an important point you're making because we do have to sort of restock the shelves, restaff these key loyalist positions with people that love Trump.

00:39:58.000 I mean it's just – it's absolutely a mandatory thing at this point.

00:40:01.000 So continue.

00:40:02.000 Yeah, and so look, and Trump's going to clean all this up and his team's cleaning it all up.

00:40:05.000 It's just illuminating to see what the prior regime has done up until this moment, right?

00:40:12.000 It's sort of like when they, what was Obama?

00:40:16.000 It's like when the Soviet Union fell.

00:40:18.000 Who took the W's out of the, was that Clinton took the W's out of the keyboards?

00:40:22.000 That was Obama.

00:40:23.000 Was it Obama?

00:40:24.000 No, it was Clinton, because W was coming after him, and they took all the W's out of the keyboards.

00:40:28.000 Yeah, you're right, you're right.

00:40:28.000 It's like little things like that, but this is a little more important when it's people that are tasked with...

00:40:33.000 I mean, it's important, but, you know, it's like a little pen.

00:40:35.000 Like, OK, it's not like world changing stuff, but it is emblematic of likely, you know, a larger issue that needs to be addressed.

00:40:42.000 So I'm just looking through the executive action and orders here.

00:40:44.000 You got to give credit for Trump's boldness.

00:40:47.000 And I mean, I just I laugh because he does this every day.

00:40:50.000 Right.

00:40:50.000 Well, it's going to be an SNL routine at some point in a good way.

00:40:53.000 Sure.

00:40:53.000 It's as you know, Will Sharp comes up.

00:40:55.000 Sir, we have an executive order to colonize Mars.

00:40:59.000 Exactly.

00:41:00.000 Colonize Mars.

00:41:01.000 Oh, that's a big one.

00:41:03.000 People have been waiting years, decades for this.

00:41:08.000 It totally is a skit.

00:41:09.000 It shows it up, right?

00:41:11.000 Sir, we have an executive order to claim Greenland as part of America.

00:41:14.000 Ooh, that's a big one.

00:41:15.000 But to Blake's earlier point, how many of these things are so dramatic, so sweeping, that they would have dominated previous news cycles?

00:41:25.000 I want to go back to this birthright citizenship.

00:41:29.000 There is zero arguments that I have ever heard that make me convinced that the 14th Amendment was for anybody...

00:41:36.000 But slaves and maybe, arguably, American Indians.

00:41:39.000 So build it out.

00:41:40.000 Actually, it's not.

00:41:41.000 No, well, what?

00:41:43.000 I could talk more, but it's specifically not about Native Americans.

00:41:46.000 Well, I know this is what I'm getting at.

00:41:48.000 They actually had to...

00:41:48.000 Okay, so this is part of my point.

00:41:50.000 So there's a guy named Senator Jacob Howard.

00:41:53.000 He was a senator at the time when they were passing the 14th Amendment.

00:41:57.000 And they're arguing on the Senate floor.

00:41:59.000 And so he's contended that it should be construed to mean, so this is back to that clause that everybody likes to talk about, subject to the jurisdiction thereof.

00:42:09.000 Now, Senator Jacob Howard said it should be construed to mean a full and complete jurisdiction, like the same jurisdiction in extent and quality as applies to every citizen of the United States now.

00:42:24.000 And so why this is important is because that...

00:42:29.000 This construct meant that American Indians would not be granted citizenship because they were loyal to another sovereign, namely the tribal powers, right?

00:42:41.000 They were part of their tribal nations.

00:42:44.000 So they actually had to – Senator James Doolittle of Wisconsin added a provision, an amendment, that had to add languages, Indians not taxed.

00:42:55.000 So this is how – Obvious it would have been to the writers of the 14th Amendment that, of course, this was not meant to be gamed by foreigners that just come over nine months pregnant and have a baby on this side of the border and they get rewarded for that act of heroism.

00:43:12.000 No.

00:43:13.000 They literally had to carve out Native Americans because they were born in the continental United States to make sure that they were also included in this provision, in the amendment.

00:43:23.000 This whole thing, I remember you posted it the day it happened.

00:43:26.000 It was news.

00:43:27.000 This ending of birthright citizenship for illegals.

00:43:30.000 And sure enough, everybody's like, well, it's in the Constitution.

00:43:33.000 You can't just change it with an executive order.

00:43:35.000 It's like, hold on.

00:43:36.000 This has been such a bastard.

00:43:38.000 And Blake, you would probably know more than I would on how many different ways the 14th Amendment has led to terrible readings of the Constitution.

00:43:46.000 It's one of the touch points of constitutional law that just seems to always come back around and get interpreted in the most awful way.

00:43:55.000 But absolutely, the 14th Amendment was not meant to reward people who break into your country.

00:44:02.000 Yeah, it's ridiculous.

00:44:03.000 What it is, is the Supreme Court decision that does it is very old.

00:44:07.000 It was a United States versus Wong Kim Ark was the name of it.

00:44:11.000 Wong Kim Ark was a man of Chinese descent.

00:44:14.000 His parents were Chinese immigrants who came to the United States.

00:44:17.000 And the ruling in that case was, okay, his parents were permanent residents of the United States.

00:44:23.000 They had him.

00:44:24.000 And so even though they themselves had been citizens and subjects of China, since they were legally living in America, he was a US citizen.

00:44:31.000 At best, you can just say that codifies the interpretation that legal residents of the United States, their kids have birthright citizenship.

00:44:39.000 But it's like...

00:44:42.000 Basically, the bureaucracy in Washington just made the grab and said, yeah, actually, illegal immigrants also count for this, and also people who come here on tourist visas who are here on very temporary residency or just travelers, they also count.

00:44:57.000 We're just going to make that grab.

00:44:58.000 And then you have all these constitutional experts going around and saying, this is super decided, it's super clear-cut.

00:45:04.000 They're liars.

00:45:04.000 It's disgusting.

00:45:06.000 And we're going to go to the Supreme Court.

00:45:08.000 Yeah, 100%.

00:45:09.000 We'll see how Amy Coney Barrett rules on it.

00:45:12.000 We'll see what happens with that.

00:45:13.000 But I think they're going to be victorious because, to me, there's a very logical reading of the 14th Amendment.

00:45:18.000 You want to know the dirty truth about the 14th Amendment?

00:45:22.000 Birthright citizenship was a scheme that was enacted in order to displace Native peoples.

00:45:33.000 Colonialist powers.

00:45:34.000 So they would come and move in.

00:45:35.000 The Spanish would come in and they would create birthright citizenship in order to displace native peoples.

00:45:41.000 Well, as Americans, we're all the native peoples of this land now.

00:45:45.000 And it's being brought back around and being used against Americans.

00:45:50.000 So the whole topic I'm very passionate about, as you might tell.

00:45:53.000 But what's crazy, again, to make the point, this would be front page everywhere.

00:46:00.000 If it wasn't for the deluge of so much other stuff.

00:46:03.000 Well, and Andrew, as well, too, I saw Ro Khanna coming up on this, and I don't want to be the point too much, but he was talking about, oh, this is going to affect the visa holders who are currently here because that would mean their kids don't get to become...

00:46:18.000 It would affect legal immigrant visa holders.

00:46:22.000 And I'm like, wait a minute.

00:46:22.000 A visa holder is not an immigrant by definition.

00:46:25.000 A visa is temporary.

00:46:27.000 All visas are...

00:46:29.000 Temporary.

00:46:30.000 So that means you're a visitor.

00:46:32.000 When I want to go visit certain countries, you need a visa.

00:46:34.000 That's how that works.

00:46:36.000 So you get a visa, you go, you conduct business, whatever it is.

00:46:39.000 You're a visitor there.

00:46:41.000 For example, I lived in China for two years.

00:46:43.000 I was there on a visa.

00:46:44.000 I wasn't married to Tanya at the time, but if I was and we had kids, they wouldn't automatically become Chinese citizens.

00:46:51.000 Of course not.

00:46:53.000 Because we were on a visa.

00:46:55.000 And by the way, even if we were there under other circumstances, So the idea that someone who's here on a temporary basis, either as a worker or a student or just tourism, like this birth tourism crap that goes on, it's ridiculous.

00:47:10.000 It's always been ridiculous.

00:47:11.000 There's never been a country that's been more silly about its immigration status than the United States.

00:47:16.000 And look, a lot of this goes back to the idea of birthright citizenship.

00:47:21.000 It goes back to the new world because early on, and Blake, I'm sure you can attest to this, that it was the...

00:47:27.000 North and South America were colonies, and so they needed to attract colonists.

00:47:32.000 Exactly.

00:47:32.000 It was a colonialist scheme.

00:47:33.000 So the idea was they wanted more people to come over, so as a way of attraction, as a potential boon or benefit to you is to say, hey, by the way, when you come here, your kids will automatically be citizens.

00:47:45.000 They won't have to go through that process.

00:47:46.000 That makes sense if we're still a brand new country not full of people.

00:47:51.000 So it's perfectly obvious to anyone that if you want to update that framework for a new situation, of course you can do so.

00:48:00.000 And oh, by the way, the US Congress and US government certainly is well within their rights to do so.

00:48:05.000 So check this out.

00:48:07.000 France, New Zealand, and Australia have...

00:48:10.000 All abandoned birthright citizenship in the past few decades.

00:48:13.000 And Australia was another colony.

00:48:15.000 Yes, Ireland was the last country in the European Union to follow it.

00:48:20.000 But they even abolished birthright citizenship in 2005. It's a completely dumb idea.

00:48:26.000 In our current context, to your point, maybe it had some value as they were looking to colonize the Western Hemisphere.

00:48:34.000 At this point, it is completely and utterly idiotic.

00:48:39.000 And you're just incentivizing all the wrong things.

00:48:42.000 But again, I haven't seen too many stories about it, to be honest.

00:48:46.000 I mean, I'm looking at it now, and people are certainly writing about it.

00:48:49.000 But if you look at nightly news, if you look at all the thought pieces, it's not really the center of attention, which is truly remarkable.

00:48:56.000 I guess, Blake, do you think – you mentioned LBJ, the reversal of LBJ's affirmative action executive order.

00:49:05.000 What would be your next – what's next on your list?

00:49:09.000 Oh, man.

00:49:10.000 After the LBJ won, that one's just so big.

00:49:15.000 That one will be so monumental if they really follow up on it.

00:49:21.000 Because it's not just...

00:49:22.000 One, it's repealing an executive order, so they basically can't...

00:49:26.000 It's going to be very hard for the left to try to reverse this.

00:49:29.000 And then they follow it up with...

00:49:31.000 By the way, actually, we're going to start going after you if you have all these programs that treat people differently based on race.

00:49:37.000 Actually, that's illegal, and it's always been illegal.

00:49:41.000 And it's been such a big revolution on the right to come out and publicly say this is the case.

00:49:47.000 We all owe a big debt to Chris Caldwell.

00:49:50.000 His book about six years ago, The Age of Entitlement, was, as far as I can remember, the first book to really just come out loudly and say that.

00:49:57.000 And it's swept the right since then.

00:50:00.000 After that one, my personal favorite, honestly, just like genuinely, the level of aggression on immigration, both in the interior and at the border, where they say, okay, it's an emergency.

00:50:15.000 We're getting rid of the CBP-1 Act.

00:50:17.000 We're going to say you can send them back without a hearing if you get caught coming into the U.S. And I'm hearing chatter.

00:50:24.000 Charlie probably knows more than I do.

00:50:26.000 But I'm hearing chatter.

00:50:27.000 There's more coming.

00:50:28.000 They're very serious about building the infrastructure to fix the immigration crisis.

00:50:35.000 Because you have all these hacks and lunatics in the press who will say, oh, just deporting people is impossible.

00:50:41.000 So you see little things like the military says.

00:50:44.000 Oh, we're willing to have military planes assist in deportation flights.

00:50:47.000 And when you see them, they surprise-fired the people at the top of our immigration court apparatus.

00:50:56.000 That shows how serious they are.

00:50:58.000 They are cleaning house.

00:50:59.000 Because if you really dig into the details, America's immigration enforcement system was a sham.

00:51:06.000 The Biden administration had created this giant legal sham whose purpose is to disguise waving everyone into the United States who wanted to come here.

00:51:16.000 It was all dressed up.

00:51:18.000 We're like, okay, well, they come across the border and, oh, but we need to give them an asylum hearing.

00:51:24.000 We don't want to take away due process.

00:51:26.000 We have to do an asylum hearing.

00:51:28.000 Well, okay, but we have a backlog, so we have to give them a court date in the asylum courts.

00:51:34.000 But it's going to be a while from now.

00:51:36.000 It might be six months.

00:51:37.000 It might be a year.

00:51:38.000 It might be six years.

00:51:39.000 You know, that's just how it is.

00:51:40.000 We've got to give them due process.

00:51:42.000 And then you let them into the U.S. The court hearing date comes around.

00:51:46.000 What if they don't show up?

00:51:47.000 Oh, well, we've ordered ICE to only focus on finding dangerous criminals.

00:51:53.000 So we're not going to prioritize finding those people who blow off their asylum years.

00:51:58.000 It's all a joke.

00:51:59.000 It was all a sham.

00:52:01.000 So Trump comes in and he says...

00:52:03.000 All right, sham's over.

00:52:05.000 You don't get your asylum hearing if we catch you crossing here illegally.

00:52:08.000 Got to go to the port of entry.

00:52:10.000 Deal with it.

00:52:11.000 And we're going to replace the guy at the top of the immigration courts.

00:52:14.000 We're going to hire new people at the immigration courts.

00:52:17.000 We're going to clear the backlog.

00:52:19.000 And we're going to say that ICE can go find people, arrest people.

00:52:24.000 There's multiple orders going into this, but it's the sheer aggression of saying all those things you supposedly can't do, yeah, we're doing it.

00:52:33.000 And I look forward to one of these things we're going to hear.

00:52:36.000 The left is all going to say, well, we can't let, you know, these countries aren't going to take their illegal immigrants back.

00:52:43.000 Well, I think we can get pretty creative on that front.

00:52:45.000 I have some friends who I think are going, who are going to be going in that field, and I'm telling them, well, guys, good news.

00:52:51.000 Most of the world borders a body of water, so we can go and we can drop them in a little dinghy with a rowboat and tell them to go back to their country.

00:53:00.000 I'm really looking forward to this.

00:53:02.000 I think the administration is serious.

00:53:05.000 Stephen Miller knows what he wants to do.

00:53:07.000 It's awesome.

00:53:08.000 That all collectively is my second favorite thing.

00:53:11.000 I just want to give Stephen Miller a slow clap.

00:53:16.000 You know what I mean?

00:53:18.000 It's like, this man was born for just such a time as this.

00:53:24.000 By the way, being...

00:53:26.000 This is a point that Charlie actually made on Twitter.

00:53:28.000 He and I talked about it.

00:53:30.000 It was this idea that everybody has given a lot of attention to Trump being stronger, tougher, more focused than he was in the first term.

00:53:40.000 Trump 1.0 is not Trump 2.0.

00:53:42.000 Just look at the pictures.

00:53:44.000 Well, the name is the Punished Trump.

00:53:46.000 Well, yeah, but he's also...

00:53:48.000 Knows the system.

00:53:50.000 He knows DC. He understands how everything works.

00:53:53.000 He knows who he can't trust.

00:53:55.000 He knows who got in his way.

00:53:57.000 What's that?

00:53:57.000 You saw it in his interview last night.

00:53:58.000 Oh, 100%.

00:53:59.000 They put me through hell.

00:54:00.000 Yeah, they did.

00:54:02.000 But what we're not appreciating enough is the fact that guys like James Blair, Sergio Gore, J.D. Vance, these young guns, Stephen Miller, also was steeped in the same experiences, lived through it alongside him, saw what also was steeped in the same experiences, lived through it alongside him, saw what they did, saw how corrupt and depraved and aggressive they All of these guys, this new generation, this new crop is ready to get to work.

00:54:32.000 They're not afraid to use power.

00:54:34.000 They're going for it.

00:54:35.000 Rules, customs, norms.

00:54:37.000 Legacy regime media be damned.

00:54:39.000 We're going to get the job done.

00:54:41.000 Now, the Constitution still matters, obviously.

00:54:43.000 We all love the Constitution, so you have to work within the framework.

00:54:45.000 But some of these things are just simply a lack of creativity and a lack of courage.

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00:55:58.000 I just got a word from Philadelphia.

00:56:00.000 I'm going to be digging into this bigger, but...

00:56:04.000 Possible breaking news.

00:56:06.000 Word that ICE is conducting raids in Kensington, Philadelphia.

00:56:10.000 Kensington is that area where you see the fentanyl zombies going around back and forth.

00:56:15.000 And so your biggest fentanyl dealers in the city, of course, many of whom have cartel ties, are going to be servicing that.

00:56:23.000 And so that's exactly where they go because they know where all the fentanyl zombies are.

00:56:27.000 And, yeah, just got word from someone that's down in Philly that – and, again, it's, you know, caveat, caveat, caveat.

00:56:35.000 But, yeah, something that – I mean I wouldn't be surprised.

00:56:38.000 I wouldn't be surprised.

00:56:39.000 It would make a lot of sense.

00:56:40.000 Yeah, I mean, I think they have a definite strategy of going to blue cities where the local municipalities have made the decision that they're going to be sanctuaries.

00:56:49.000 They're not going to aid or help, which can we just take a step back and ask ourselves how insane that is?

00:56:56.000 If you know the whereabouts of a criminal, you know the misdeeds that this criminal has done, and yet you refuse to remove said criminal from your streets simply because he or she is an illegal immigrant.

00:57:11.000 The amount of insanity.

00:57:13.000 I think, you know, Charles said it earlier on the show this morning, but it was like they hate Trump so much that they've fallen in love with MS-13.

00:57:21.000 They hate Trump so much that they've fallen in love with the criminal.

00:57:24.000 They hate Trump so much that they have fallen in love with murderers and rapists more so than their love for their common man and their fellow citizen.

00:57:31.000 That is an extraordinary psychological picture to take in and fully absorb.

00:57:38.000 And when you get to these ICE raids in these cities, and the fact that these cities are harboring fugitives of the law, and they are protecting them from accountability when they rape little girls, when they kill people, when they stab people, when they get them addicted to fentanyl and other drugs that are going to kill them, the extraordinarily...

00:57:58.000 A dereliction of duty is almost unfathomable.

00:58:02.000 It's difficult to comprehend what that would mean.

00:58:05.000 Charlie, we just got...

00:58:06.000 It's rumor status, but this is thought crime, so why not?

00:58:09.000 We got a rumor that ICE is up in Kensington, Philadelphia tonight.

00:58:13.000 Oh, really?

00:58:14.000 Yeah, where all the fentanyl zombies are.

00:58:16.000 Unbelievable.

00:58:17.000 I mean, just going after all the dealers down there.

00:58:19.000 I mean, the merchants of death.

00:58:20.000 Let's do one of our reads, and then if there's nothing else, we'll end with the CCP. I'm interested in hearing about the CTP. I want to play that meme with Tom Homan.

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00:59:20.000 Okay, meme time, and then CCP. Yeah, let's go ahead.

00:59:23.000 So this is a big story today.

00:59:27.000 It was actually from Bill Malusian.

00:59:29.000 He went into Boston.

00:59:29.000 He was embedded exclusively.

00:59:31.000 Good for him.

00:59:31.000 Great journalist.

00:59:33.000 With the ICE raids that were going on in Boston, he gets this Haitian guy who shouts out, I'm never going back to Haiti.

00:59:42.000 You know, F Trump.

00:59:45.000 Joe Biden forever, bro.

00:59:47.000 Please thank Obama for everything he did for me.

00:59:49.000 I mean, pretty stark stuff, so much to the point that Blake didn't believe it was real.

00:59:54.000 It's real.

00:59:55.000 And then Tom Homan was asked, what do you make of this guy's comments?

01:00:00.000 And it's already been meme-ified, which is just, I just think it's so fantastic.

01:00:04.000 When you capture the vibe of a moment, you just got to play it 168. I'm not going back to Haiti.

01:00:10.000 Well, he's wrong.

01:00:10.000 He's going back to Haiti I'm not going back to Haiti Well, he's wrong.

01:00:23.000 He's going back to Haiti.

01:00:27.000 It really was.

01:00:29.000 I still can't believe that it literally was like what you'd have from a propaganda video.

01:00:37.000 The guy's like, I'm not going back to Hootie.

01:00:39.000 F Trump.

01:00:41.000 I love Biden.

01:00:42.000 I love Obama for what they did to me.

01:00:44.000 And he's like scowling and looking terrifying.

01:00:47.000 It's like.

01:00:48.000 You couldn't have made the ad better.

01:00:51.000 Like, unbelievable.

01:00:53.000 Yeah, it's a walking billboard for the new...

01:00:57.000 It sets the perfect tone.

01:00:58.000 Yeah, and by the way, just so we're clear, Trump, everything he's doing, the sense of...

01:01:04.000 By the way, we haven't even talked about $600 billion from the Saudi prince, you know, crown prince.

01:01:10.000 We haven't talked about the $500 million.

01:01:11.000 Well, we'll see what strings are attached to that.

01:01:13.000 Well, maybe.

01:01:14.000 But, I mean, Trump's today, he's talking to the WF, and he's going, I'm going to have him round up to a trillion.

01:01:19.000 And you've got the SoftBank investment.

01:01:22.000 You've got Chrysler bringing jobs back.

01:01:25.000 I mean, all of these things.

01:01:27.000 I mean, Maria Bartiromo was reporting from Davos, and she was saying, like, all these guys want to throw money at America.

01:01:33.000 The amount of optimism is insane.

01:01:35.000 And Trump is acting as the salesman, the agent.

01:01:40.000 Of his country.

01:01:41.000 And him playing that role is so unique.

01:01:45.000 I mean, we've never seen a chief executive of the country act like that.

01:01:48.000 You kind of want Trump to sort of just be the cheerleader for America.

01:01:52.000 And then, like, what's great about a J.D. Vance is that he can sort of...

01:01:57.000 Hunker down, do the day-to-day stuff, go around the department.

01:02:01.000 I would love to see J.D. Vance, like, showing up.

01:02:03.000 He'll be making site visits.

01:02:04.000 You know, making site visits.

01:02:05.000 Chaney, I mean, basically embedded himself in the DOD, right?

01:02:08.000 Yeah, Chaney is famous for this.

01:02:09.000 So why not?

01:02:10.000 It's kind of like, in the Navy, we would have, you know, the COXO kind of relationship, where the XO is the executive officer of the ship, and his job is, like, you know, make sure the ship's running properly, make sure all the departments are functioning.

01:02:23.000 And then the CO, his job is, where's the ship going?

01:02:25.000 What's the mission?

01:02:26.000 What, you know, are we, are we execute, or are we, are we, are we clearly defining the mission?

01:02:32.000 Does the mission make sense?

01:02:33.000 That's the CEO's job.

01:02:34.000 And then the XO, that's J.D. Vance.

01:02:36.000 So J.D. Vance is, I want him to make any, and by the way, not just here in D.C., but all around the country.

01:02:42.000 Okay, let's end with CCP? Let's do it.

01:02:45.000 Okay, so the inauguration, the inauguration day begins with a service at St. John's Episcopal Church, which was the VVIP ticket.

01:02:54.000 Very difficult to get to.

01:02:56.000 In fact, in order to get in the Rotunda as a guest, you had to start in the St. John's Church.

01:03:03.000 So only those that were in St. John's Church actually ended up getting tickets into the Rotunda.

01:03:08.000 Joe Rogan was there.

01:03:09.000 Everyone was there.

01:03:10.000 So we had a lot of time to burn.

01:03:12.000 The president was a little bit late.

01:03:13.000 Church that Antifa tried to burn down?

01:03:15.000 Correct.

01:03:15.000 Right outside of the White House.

01:03:16.000 And so, kind of going around, and next thing you know, I run into the vice president of China.

01:03:22.000 As you do.

01:03:23.000 Yeah, just normal.

01:03:25.000 Can I just say, your life for the last while has been super weird.

01:03:31.000 Rather remarkable.

01:03:32.000 And so I was like, I gotta get a picture, right?

01:03:35.000 So I go up, that's my picture with the Vice President of China.

01:03:38.000 Wait, have you tweeted this?

01:03:39.000 No.

01:03:40.000 Oh gosh.

01:03:41.000 Not yet.

01:03:41.000 This is exclusive thought crime stuff here.

01:03:43.000 There we go.

01:03:43.000 He saved it.

01:03:44.000 I wanted to tweet it.

01:03:45.000 JD did post his.

01:03:46.000 Yeah, so I should probably post mine, right?

01:03:48.000 Wasn't there something where JD didn't release it, but it was actually like a Chinese outlet released it or something?

01:03:52.000 I have no idea.

01:03:54.000 So, I don't know what this guy's name is.

01:03:55.000 He was really nice.

01:03:56.000 And so, as soon as I get a picture of them, some guy with a camera.

01:04:01.000 It's kind of one of those, it's like a stick with a camera.

01:04:04.000 Do you know what I'm talking about?

01:04:04.000 Like a little stick, as if you're looking.

01:04:06.000 Like a selfie stick.

01:04:07.000 Yeah, but it's like some sort of a technology I haven't seen.

01:04:11.000 Okay.

01:04:11.000 Meaning it's like a stick, but it has like a mobile camera that kind of goes like this.

01:04:15.000 Oh, I know what you're talking about.

01:04:16.000 It's got like a, oh gosh.

01:04:19.000 I'm like brain fart.

01:04:20.000 I know what you're talking about.

01:04:21.000 It's got like a GoPro on it.

01:04:22.000 So it goes up, he's like, what's your name?

01:04:23.000 What's your name?

01:04:23.000 I said, my name's Jack Pasova.

01:04:24.000 It's Han Jong.

01:04:26.000 Ah!

01:04:27.000 Great.

01:04:28.000 I said, my name's Charlie Kirk.

01:04:29.000 And then I said, whatever.

01:04:30.000 So then we go sit down.

01:04:32.000 And if you've ever been to St. John's Episcopal Church, it's very tight, very close quarters.

01:04:38.000 And I'm not saying anything private because everyone saw what was happening here.

01:04:42.000 And so up on the, there's like this upper ring where you look down on the service.

01:04:49.000 There's the, one of the CCP handlers.

01:04:53.000 He's filming the whole crowd.

01:04:55.000 He's filming everybody during the service.

01:04:57.000 So they can use facial recognition later.

01:04:58.000 It's like one of these things?

01:05:00.000 Yeah, that thing.

01:05:02.000 So he's filming it.

01:05:03.000 So here's the Secret Service who's like, you can't bring water into the church.

01:05:08.000 And there's a Chinese Communist Party agent government officials filming everybody.

01:05:14.000 And so all of a sudden some of the White House staff is like, they're starting to point up here.

01:05:18.000 He's going down there.

01:05:20.000 They are so brazen.

01:05:22.000 Charlie, you know what else?

01:05:23.000 About espionage.

01:05:24.000 The three-axis stabilization camera, where it kind of like...

01:05:26.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:05:27.000 So, you know what else wouldn't surprise me?

01:05:28.000 Listening to our conversations.

01:05:29.000 You know what else wouldn't surprise me is if they had some type of signal collector on them as well, so that if as the...

01:05:37.000 As the vice president, Han Jung, if he was going around someone, if he had a signal collector on him, then what they could do is time the video up with the signal collector.

01:05:46.000 So when Charlie Kirk walks up, then boom.

01:05:50.000 So did you have your cell phone on you?

01:05:51.000 Yeah.

01:05:51.000 Was your cell phone on?

01:05:52.000 Yeah.

01:05:53.000 Well, there you go.

01:05:54.000 So then, boom, that signal, that number...

01:05:56.000 I'm changing my phone tonight.

01:05:57.000 That number pops up in the signal collector.

01:06:00.000 By the way.

01:06:00.000 And he can say, oh, this number must be associated with this person.

01:06:03.000 So here's the thing.

01:06:04.000 My phone has been, like, on fire since I've been in the city.

01:06:07.000 No, I think this is why.

01:06:08.000 I think it's because they're dragnetting my phone.

01:06:10.000 I'm telling you.

01:06:11.000 Well, you and I both...

01:06:12.000 I'm not joking, by the way.

01:06:13.000 That's, like, not even...

01:06:15.000 That's, like, not even, like...

01:06:17.000 That's, like, low-level spy games.

01:06:18.000 So anyway, what I got found so amazing is that...

01:06:21.000 No one's told this guy to stop until like 20 minutes in.

01:06:24.000 And he's using a little gimbal, scanning the whole audience.

01:06:28.000 Like he's over the balcony.

01:06:29.000 Imagine like you're sitting down here.

01:06:31.000 I'm over the balcony.

01:06:32.000 And by the way, this is not like a schlepping audience.

01:06:34.000 You had Scott Bessent.

01:06:35.000 You had Mark Zuckerberg.

01:06:37.000 You're the CEO of TikTok.

01:06:38.000 You had Jeff Bezos.

01:06:39.000 You had Sam Altman.

01:06:40.000 Don't forget Jeff Bezos, significant other.

01:06:43.000 What?

01:06:44.000 I said, don't forget Jeff Bezos, significant other.

01:06:46.000 I don't know.

01:06:46.000 They were all in church, right?

01:06:48.000 And her daughters.

01:06:48.000 So they're all in church.

01:06:49.000 And he is scanning every single one of them from the balcony doing signal collecting God knows what.

01:06:55.000 Yeah, because the problem with the signal collector like that is when you go into a crowd, you're going to get all the signals, but they're not going to be associated with individuals.

01:07:02.000 And that's why you need to pair it with the video so you can determine, okay.

01:07:06.000 Charlie Kirk walks by, and then boom, we collected the signal.

01:07:09.000 You have to remember.

01:07:10.000 And then boom, we got the signal.

01:07:11.000 You have to remember, this was happening while Joe Biden was still president, and we should never forget this.

01:07:17.000 We should just never forget how Joe Biden was the worst freaking president ever.

01:07:21.000 This is a true headline.

01:07:22.000 line i'm reading it verbatim from politico this happened in 2022 doj shuts down china focused anti-espionage program the china initiative is being is being cast aside largely because of perceptions that it's unfairly painted u.s residents of chinese origin As disloyal.

01:07:46.000 They stopped doing China counterespionage because they were worried it was racist, that their China counterespionage focused too much on people from China.

01:07:57.000 They hated America.

01:07:59.000 And then somebody at the pre-ceremony for the presidential inauguration, hours before Trump runs the government, is brazingly spying on every incoming cabinet member.

01:08:11.000 And then finally, about 10 minutes in, someone goes up to him and taps him on the shoulder and says, stop it.

01:08:16.000 Knock it off.

01:08:18.000 Everyone in the White House staff, to their credit, was like, what's going on up there?

01:08:21.000 Like, people were pointing and they don't care.

01:08:23.000 They just, like this, scanning conversations, the whole thing.

01:08:28.000 And for all I know, you know, they've probably got AI loaded on there.

01:08:33.000 They've probably got facial recognition.

01:08:35.000 They could have something where, they could even have something where, depending on the fidelity, I mean, you talk about...

01:08:40.000 Han Zhang.

01:08:41.000 This guy's the vice president of China.

01:08:43.000 Funny enough, I actually met him almost 20 years ago when he was the mayor of Shanghai.

01:08:49.000 Because he happened to be the mayor when I lived there.

01:08:52.000 And the...

01:08:54.000 They could have collections on there with high enough fidelity that they were picking up every conversation in the room at the same time and then using AI to isolate voices and break it out so that they could later go back and listen to every single individual private conversation.

01:09:09.000 Well, by the way, the most common camera, right, that with a gimbal, I guess is what it's called, is DJI. Which is the Chinese.

01:09:18.000 Yeah, which, by the way, we were contracting at both federal and state governments, like a lot of them.

01:09:24.000 And I think during the first Trump administration, they flagged it as like a potential spyware.

01:09:29.000 Do you believe all this that I'm saying, Jack?

01:09:31.000 This is very believable to you, right?

01:09:32.000 I would be surprised if they weren't, to be honest.

01:09:35.000 What amazed me, and it was such a microcosm of the failure of Biden, because that was Biden's government.

01:09:40.000 Trump had no power at that time.

01:09:42.000 It's just like the indifference.

01:09:43.000 Like, no one who is currently on government was like, yeah, they're just...

01:09:48.000 Meanwhile, Charlie Kirk's going like, hey, hey.

01:09:50.000 Not only that, like, by the way, Sergio's turning around, he's like...

01:09:53.000 What the hell is going on over here?

01:09:54.000 Everyone's like this and that, like pointing, like at least 10 people are noticing that the Chinese delegation is using some sort of Chinese listening device scanning.

01:10:04.000 It wasn't just like, he was like over the balcony like this.

01:10:07.000 Yeah.

01:10:08.000 It wasn't being subtle.

01:10:09.000 No, there was no subtlety.

01:10:10.000 Yeah.

01:10:11.000 So that's my CCP story.

01:10:12.000 And I met the JD Vance of China.

01:10:15.000 The JD Vance of China.

01:10:17.000 Fair enough.

01:10:18.000 It's a good description.

01:10:19.000 By the way, how did I do in my picture?

01:10:20.000 I think I passed the line test, right?

01:10:21.000 No, it's hilarious, by the way.

01:10:23.000 You're just like straight up.

01:10:26.000 I can just imagine your thought process in that moment.

01:10:29.000 Like, don't be too friendly.

01:10:30.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:10:31.000 Yeah, this guy.

01:10:32.000 I mean, this guy.

01:10:33.000 So to give you a little background on him.

01:10:35.000 So having been the...

01:10:36.000 He was the mayor of Shanghai when...

01:10:41.000 But the mayor in China is not the highest position in the city.

01:10:46.000 It's like a province or city, right?

01:10:48.000 Well, Shanghai is kind of provincial level, correct, which is correct.

01:10:51.000 Beijing is similar.

01:10:52.000 But that's not the highest ranking official in an area because whoever's highest ranking is always going to be your party secretary.

01:10:59.000 So the party secretary is always going to outrank whoever the official mayor is.

01:11:03.000 And the party secretary of Shanghai, when this guy was the mayor, was a guy by the name of Xi Jinping.

01:11:10.000 So this guy and Xi Jinping go way, way, way back.

01:11:15.000 He was instrumental in getting Xi Jinping picked to the Politburo all the way back in 2012 when he ascended up and to the presidency, quote-unquote, chairmanship when he came up.

01:11:25.000 So he's been along with them.

01:11:27.000 So this is one of his most trusted guys.

01:11:28.000 Even the fact that Trump chose to invite President Xi and then he sent his vice president was...

01:11:35.000 Fairly remarkable and newsworthy.

01:11:37.000 It's not really done.

01:11:37.000 No, it's not something that's really done.

01:11:40.000 Foreign leaders don't – I don't think they've ever come to a presidential inauguration before.

01:11:45.000 And it's funny too because Trump clearly just – it's just free money that's just sitting on the table and he just goes and picks it up because obviously in the back of his head, he's remembering King Charles' coronation ceremony, which was only like what, a couple of months ago, and all the world leaders went to that.

01:12:01.000 Why wouldn't they come to his inauguration ceremony?

01:12:03.000 It just makes sense.

01:12:04.000 Well, it's also, I think, an acknowledgement of the dynamic that has existed with China when Trump first started tariffing China in the first administration.

01:12:14.000 They are the big geopolitical foe.

01:12:17.000 And so it's a power move to say, hey, listen, I'm going to be really tough on you, but hey, we can get along.

01:12:22.000 Yeah, it's actually funny because Trump is extremely popular within China.

01:12:26.000 Oh, yeah.

01:12:27.000 Like the Chinese people love him.

01:12:28.000 They can't get enough of him.

01:12:29.000 They just there's like if you go on the Chinese version of TikTok, you'll find all sorts of people doing like impersonations of Trump and using it in using like Trump impersonations in ads.

01:12:40.000 And they just they think he's great.

01:12:42.000 Well, I think Trump is experiencing a boon in popularity, not only domestically, but internationally.

01:12:46.000 I mean, Raheem Kassam, mutual friend, says that in London now you'll see.

01:12:51.000 Tons of MAGA hats.

01:12:52.000 The Wall Street Journal famous Raheem Kassam, by the way.

01:12:55.000 Did you see that piece on his new club this morning?

01:12:58.000 I did, yeah.

01:12:58.000 Have you guys been by yet?

01:13:00.000 Butterworths?

01:13:00.000 Butterworths.

01:13:01.000 Yeah, I was there this week, yes.

01:13:02.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:13:03.000 I may or may not be there tomorrow.

01:13:05.000 We'll see.

01:13:06.000 You gotta go, man.

01:13:07.000 Raheem's new club downtown.

01:13:09.000 It's right on Capitol Hill.

01:13:10.000 Had huge profile in the Wall Street Journal this morning.

01:13:13.000 Everybody, I will tell you one of the most common questions I've gotten from journalists is where's the new haunt?

01:13:18.000 Where's the new hang?

01:13:19.000 Because in Trump 1.0, it was Trump.

01:13:22.000 Waldorf has still had some people going there.

01:13:24.000 But no, I don't really know the new place.

01:13:26.000 It used to be Trump Hotel.

01:13:28.000 It's Butterworth's.

01:13:29.000 Well, it depends.

01:13:30.000 There's different clicks.

01:13:33.000 Right?

01:13:34.000 I think that's certainly one of them.

01:13:36.000 Anyways.

01:13:36.000 All right, guys.

01:13:37.000 Thank you for watching Thought Crime.

01:13:40.000 God bless you guys and make sure you stay free of CCP spying.

01:13:45.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

01:13:46.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:13:49.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.

The Charlie Kirk Show - January 25, 2025

THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 70 — Seatgate? Best Executive Orders? Panda Express?

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