In this episode of THA Thought Crime Thursday, Tyler, Blake, Jack, and Jack discuss the latest release from Chris Ruffo's leaked documents about the National Security Agency's secret "gay" affinity chat room.
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00:02:31.000But anyway, so they have an Intel agency kind of internal chat room that they get to use.
00:02:40.000And it's supposed to only be for work reasons.
00:02:42.000But of course, in the age of DEI, you can't have a thriving workplace unless you have your LGBT affinity room chat discussion area for employees.
00:02:51.000And so someone just started leaking what they were saying in their affinity chat room.
00:02:58.000And Rufo's been releasing it, so let's look at some of these.
00:03:49.000The craziest part about the whole thing, Charlie, is that it's, like, they're enabled to, like, be pushed to the front of the line to talk about this.
00:03:57.000They've created an environment where it's, like, this is where it's cultivated.
00:04:02.000Yeah, it's, like, I think he has a quote in the article where they basically said that...
00:04:07.000You know, being an affirming, like a DEI environment is not just mission critical, but like mission mandatory or something.
00:04:15.000They have a very bizarre quote along those lines.
00:04:19.000There's one, let me see if I can find this one.
00:05:51.000It's not really studied because it's one of those things where it was all supernatural and they were born that way so we can't study it honestly.
00:05:58.000What I think is it's probably if they're on the spectrum, as they say, they're probably...
00:06:07.000That whole phenomenon where they describe dysphoria as being uncomfortable in your own body, a ton of people on the spectrum are like that.
00:06:47.000Well, before, you know, as a guy who was in the intel community before this, you know, I was there when the, you know, this was kind of like starting to seep in.
00:06:57.000But let's go through the story itself a little bit more because this, it's crazy that this is actually, this wasn't like some disclosure, by the way.
00:07:04.000This is, you know, Tulsi Gabbard just got in his DNI. Bratcliffe is over at CIA. But this is actually a source that leaked all of this to Chris Rufo, if I have that correctly.
00:07:47.000And so this also coincides with how A lot of, and Blake, I know you and I have chatted about this in the past, about how, like, the LGBT community took over sort of the geek world.
00:08:01.000So when I was in, NSA was known for, like, this was your geek.
00:08:05.000The guy at the NSA is, like, poor social skills, low soft skills.
00:08:11.000These are your people who would do actual LARPing, as in they would, like, do live, hold live action role plays at the Fort Meade.
00:08:19.000In the cafeteria there, you know, or like on, you know, work events.
00:08:24.000You know, they're going to the D.C. area Renaissance Fair and they're holding live action role play, like big Lord of the Rings kind of stuff.
00:08:32.000And again, like I'm dating myself because my experience was, it's been almost a decade since I've been out, you know, give or take.
00:08:38.000But that's kind of was the bleeding edge of it when I was there.
00:08:42.000So it was totally taken over by the Geek Squad.
00:08:46.000And that very same space has a lot of overlap as well with the LGBT community.
00:09:29.000It comes into conflict with our belief system, so I'm just not going to do that, but I'm not going to sit there and try to convert people to Catholicism either.
00:11:12.000Sometimes you have very hard-driving businessmen come out and say, like, actually, I knew I was a woman on the inside the whole time.
00:11:18.000Couldn't you tell when I was doing my hard-charging business career and all these other masculine interests?
00:11:24.000Another thing that's interesting that overlaps with the NSA hacker thing, it's not widely known, but so many major online spaces, you get sort of these transgender shock troops move to take them over.
00:11:37.000So, for example, Reddit, the most soy...
00:11:52.000For example, after Elon Musk did the, you know, my heart goes out to you thing, they organized this extremely systematic get Twitter banned, get Twitter links, X links I should say, X links banned from Reddit on all these things.
00:12:28.000Wikipedia is much worse now than it was 15 years ago, and a lot of it is there are super users on Wikipedia who their entire life is just obsessively trying to police whatever articles they've taken over.
00:12:40.000Very disproportionately transgender on that one.
00:12:44.000It's a real thing, and what is especially concerning when we talk about should this be allowed at the NSA, independent of what they're posting here, a very real trend, a trend that we have to be honest about is The thing that is very creepy with a lot of transgender people is it eventually entirely takes over their personality.
00:13:22.000I would not be surprised if we're going to see more, like, transgender shooters in the future.
00:13:26.000People really whipped up and radicalized by this.
00:13:29.000We just, Blake, we literally just had a transgender serial killer cult, which involved, by the way, a number of hackers, where they just got arrested, I think, in, like, Western Maryland, out where Tim Pool, I guess he used to do his show out of there.
00:13:45.000And of course, they don't cover it that way, the Zizians.
00:13:49.000And this was a huge group that was conducting transgender-fueled slash vegan-fueled violence and murder across the country for years.
00:14:00.000And yet, this is something that, like...
00:14:02.000The true crime community is never going to talk about.
00:14:05.000It's something the mainstream media is not going to talk about.
00:14:08.000They'll say stuff like, oh, they were...
00:14:10.000I think I caught the USA Today headline when it was out.
00:14:30.000It does go back to, you know, it's like Norman Bates, right?
00:14:35.000It's something that Hitchcock would talk about where, you know, there clearly is a key issue fundamentally, which, of course, dysphoria is a mental issue.
00:14:45.000It clearly is a mental issue, and it was in the DSM until very recently, that can generate these types of feelings.
00:14:52.000And so that's one of the reasons why there was that...
00:14:55.000There was that trans individual that was arrested at the Capitol who came in with Molotov cocktails and a loaded 9mm and was going to kill Scott Besant during his confirmation hearings, but originally wanted to target Pete Hegseth.
00:15:10.000Because Pete Hegseth was pushing, and I think at this point has signed now, the trans ban in the military.
00:15:16.000And so they view that, as Blake exactly what you're saying, this direct attack on their identity.
00:15:22.000And so when you listen to their their chat rooms or you listen to their their writings and you see this in some of these trans killers in their suicide notes, they'll say we had to do this because the world was after us.
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00:16:54.000Well, here's what's crazy to think about.
00:16:56.000And we were talking before the show a little bit about how the intelligence community recruits.
00:17:01.000And most of it's, I mean, we've seen this like in big organizations.
00:17:04.000At Turning Point, for example, there's certain personality types that fit into certain jobs.
00:17:09.000And you have to wonder, I mean, not wonder, it's pretty obvious that the opening of the gay agenda within government and just the LGBTQ, you know, especially with the trans community, this is kind of, you have to assume it's pushed.
00:17:25.000People who are mentally ill, trans, into these jobs, these very important jobs.
00:17:33.000I mean, you just brought up like the masters of Reddit and Wikipedia, who are the people who oversee everything.
00:17:40.000I mean, these are basically the same types that are overseeing all the confidential information.
00:17:44.000All the gatekeeping that happens within the intelligence communities.
00:17:49.000And now they're basically, those are the only jobs they can fulfill.
00:17:53.000More than a decade ago, Snowden said they had all these cases of, they called it like Lovant, where NSA employees were abusing their powers to basically spy on people they were interested in.
00:18:27.000They have to go into these jobs because they can't be front-facing civilian jobs.
00:18:32.000They can't be military-esque jobs within the intelligence agencies.
00:18:37.000They have to go into these dark rooms behind the scenes where nobody sees them like the personality type that Charlie's describing.
00:18:44.000So it's basically this entire channel and by gayifying the entire government more has made Basically open the door to the entire trans community taking over maybe the most important, most critical, most sensitive element of intelligence.
00:19:20.000And so, therefore, you see a lot of that represented.
00:19:23.000But can we all agree on thought crime that people that are afflicted by the trans ideology have no place in the military or the intel services?
00:19:31.000Would that stand up in an executive order?
00:20:14.000However, the NSA is directly a service component that works with DOD. So you've got, I'll put it this way, you've got a mix of civilian and DOD that are working together.
00:20:28.000So like, for example, I was Navy intelligence as a civilian, but I was also working with people who were in the Navy in uniform.
00:20:38.000And the NSA is, of course, under the Department of Defense, but it's got civilians who work there as well.
00:20:44.000So it's, yeah, it's a little bit of both.
00:20:46.000You've got your civilian, like, GS employees, but you've also got military, you've got military authorities because they're a duty agency, as well as uniformed military soldiers that are, you know, like, conducting the actual cryptological work of, as you say, intercepting, you know, the Ayatollahs or, you know, the Russians or the Chinese or whoever it is.
00:21:34.000If someone is bipolar schizophrenic and starts screaming in their workplace, you could make an argument that person should not serve the Department of Interior.
00:22:22.000If you're mentally ill enough, you have a community of mentally ill people that want to elect someone to represent you that's mentally ill, great.
00:22:32.000You shouldn't be able to simply be able to have somebody that's not mentally ill fall for this trap that we just saw for the last four years where you basically put at the highest level mentally ill people and then basically you have, again, the patients running the insane asylum.
00:22:50.000And that's where we were at the last four years.
00:24:07.000But there's nothing wrong, but you need insurance.
00:24:11.000But politically speaking, right, for political purposes, they have to say nothing's wrong.
00:24:16.000But again, you're still in the manual of mental disorders.
00:24:20.000So if you're in the manual of mental disorders, are you the type of person that should be given access to this level of information?
00:24:29.000Are you the type of person that should be allowed a Yankee white and you can go around the president or have access to the PDB and all of these different things?
00:24:37.000And this is a serious question that should actually be asked.
00:24:40.000Given their own inclinations about the things that they've said regarding their disorder with identity.
00:24:49.000And so this is something, by the way, which used to come up on the SF-86.
00:24:53.000It used to be something that would be asked on the polygraph, all of which was taken away from the intelligence services, all of which was taken away from the military.
00:25:00.000But it used to be a very obvious question.
00:25:03.000Look, at the end of the day, these services are not made for gender experimentation and social experimentation.
00:25:09.000The purpose of the IC is to protect people and give indications and warnings of when our country is about to be under attack or U.S. interests are about to be under attack.
00:25:20.000This is the same intelligence community that we're told had no idea that Thomas Matthew Crooks was about to climb on a roof and take potshots at President Trump and kill Corey Campatore, the same intelligence community that got so many things wrong over the years.
00:25:36.000And so, no, we shouldn't have to cater to every social interest or mental disorder that's out there when it comes to the intelligence community or when it comes to the military.
00:25:44.000And it's really as simple as all that.
00:26:00.000While I understand we can make some people uncomfortable, keep in mind that the dehumanizing aspect, either A, doesn't apply, or B, is a positive effect when we're requesting it.
00:26:51.000Luigi Mangioni has had to ask fans to limit the number of photos that are sent to him by fans in prison to five apiece because police are complaining that they have to review all the photos he's receiving from fans.
00:27:07.000He's also receiving many tens of thousands of dollars, actually I think over $100,000 in donations to his legal defense fund.
00:27:14.000Someone sent him $30,000 recently on his whatever crowdfunding site is.
00:27:21.000And there's a lot of fandom for Luigi.
00:27:25.000I think we very much have to consider the idea that you could get a hung jury from a deranged leftist who's just in favor of what he did.
00:28:52.000Why do so many people, not just, so there's two elements here.
00:28:57.000There's the Kaczynski, I get that, okay, girls like bad boys, they don't have fathers around, they don't have a boyfriend, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, okay, fine.
00:29:05.000You know, that's one, you know, one other thing.
00:29:08.000The other part is, why is there mass quiet support for what he did?
00:29:44.000I said, well, if he's innocent, why do you love him so much if he didn't do anything?
00:29:47.000Or if he didn't do anything, why do you love him so much?
00:29:49.000This was the thesis of my New York Times bestseller last year on humans, how the secret history of communist revolutions and how to crush them.
00:29:58.000And we described the far left and communists as people who would support and love.
00:30:08.000We specifically said that these are the types of individuals who they would support because we said they're...
00:30:15.000Look, the communists will tell you all day long they support justice and equality.
00:30:20.000And the cultural Marxist, of course, will talk about identity and diversity and race and gender and all these things we were just talking about in the last segment.
00:30:34.000The unhuman, right, the communist, it's an intense hatred of beauty, success, those who thrive, anyone who they view as prosperous, viewing them as oppressors that need to be torn down.
00:30:48.000They believe in this oppressor class versus oppressed class.
00:30:51.000And here's the key, by the way, Charlie, here's the key way to, I think, make anyone see.
00:30:56.000The difference between what Mangione did and how it's not actually about, oh, healthcare companies or anything.
00:31:04.000Which, by the way, you know, the left, of course, were the same people who told us that we were supposed to love healthcare and healthcare is great.
00:31:09.000These were during COVID-19 that we're supposed to listen to the healthcare and trust the experts.
00:31:13.000But suddenly, oh, no, go and kill them at the same time.
00:31:24.000It has nothing to do with his direct position.
00:31:27.000Even though he was wealthy, he was certainly wealthy, but actually, ironically, or perhaps not ironically, the individual, Luigi Mangione, his family was actually more wealthy than his victim, his alleged victim here, the CEO. But what is he really, Charlie?
00:31:45.000He's a successful, white, heterosexual...
00:32:18.000Healthcare, if this was really about healthcare, do you think they'd be just as cavalier?
00:32:22.000You mentioned turning up the temperature.
00:32:24.000Do you think they'd be just as cavalier about cheering on Luigi Maggioni if the healthcare CEO, hypothetically, I'm not talking about anyone in real life, but if he had been, oh, I don't know, a black male CEO in a committed same-sex marriage.
00:32:39.000Then, of course, they wouldn't be cheering him on.
00:32:43.000They're doing so because he took out one of their individual targets that they view as part of the enemy class in society and have taken all of that incipient rage and deceptiveness and destructiveness and obsession with power and nihilism and turned it against.
00:33:19.000And to piggyback on Jack's entire, you know, his entire mantra is talking about this and educating on this, is when you get the communists together and normalize it, We've talked about if the communists in the country and the BLM folks and everyone else became nationalistic, that's a very scary moment.
00:33:44.000If they get smart on immigration, crime, and trans, those are the three things.
00:33:50.000And that's the scary part about this thing is it normalizes the normalizing of the hatred for this executive, which I've seen a ton of stuff from very normal people posting.
00:34:02.000And again, I don't know if you guys have seen it with friends and wives and things like that, but my wife has seen people really aggrandizing.
00:34:11.000And it's scary because it's the normalizing of this very communist behavior that Jack just so eloquently went through.
00:34:19.000I'm looking at his defense fund right now.
00:34:25.000These are people within the last hour.
00:34:27.000Maybe the next healthcare CEO that gets whacked, it will be done by someone more professional who knows what they're doing and won't advertise it.
00:34:34.000Keep up the good work from New Zealand.
00:34:36.000The shooter is a hero who assassinated a terrorist leader.
00:35:29.000It made it very easy to, you know, you can go on the AI platforms and you can make AI images where it's like Luigi assassinating a healthcare CEO or you make the CEO guy.
00:36:26.000I feel like you guys are always protesting your heterosexuality and then you're like, well, Lord of the Rings felt really gay when I watched it.
00:36:32.000Every movie I watch feels really gay when I watch it.
00:36:45.000The thing that really is bizarre to me about the normalization of this guy is, and this is what's scary, and I think this, again, piggybacks on what everything that Jack is saying, is that the more figures like this that make this proletarian type behavior Normal is going to not help in the broader context of how the direction the country needs to go.
00:37:13.000So the thing that I think freaks me the most out, again, about communists is if they become everyday type people.
00:37:22.000It's the same thing that the left says about how they view right-wing anarchists that want to demolish government.
00:37:50.000Every single communist revolution has been like that.
00:37:52.000You know, the biggest, greatest, most successful version of it in Russia, you know, you could argue is that's where, you know, that's that.
00:38:04.000And that's what's so scary about this situation is this almost has the elements is if he was more of a political figure and more well-known, where would we be right now?
00:40:32.000That was okay, so George could still get away with it.
00:40:34.000What I was going to say, and I think Tyler was kind of good at it too, is like, you lock him up without dealing with any of the underlying pieces of it, that you just make him a martyr, right?
00:40:43.000You just make him a political prisoner.
00:40:47.000And that's not going to actually do anything to change the public perception of him.
00:41:30.000And in some of those cases, they do actually get out, Charlie, like you're saying.
00:41:34.000The bigger, I think, issue, though, here is this stuff is normalized because we live in a society.
00:41:40.000Where a Gini coefficient is getting really bad and the Gini coefficient is, it literally means just the disparity between the haves and the have-nots.
00:41:48.000So this is where Trump comes in and says, look, you know, we can actually work to make the middle class better.
00:41:55.000We can make life better for the working class and stop screwing them over and not making the rich get so fabulously wealthy.
00:42:03.000Trump, hopefully, if he's successful, if his project of populist nationalism is successful, and people really do change their ways, I mean, like the Republican Party actually moves to a populist nationalist model and stops trying to flood us with, like, cheap migrant labor into the heartland of the country, then maybe we can get to a place where, as living standards go up, support for insane nutjob communists, like...
00:42:30.000The problem is if, say, you know, we hadn't gotten on that, gotten on that path of having Trump involved.
00:42:36.000And actually getting to a populist, nationalist, moderate approach to dealing with these issues, then, yes, there would be a huge appetite for real, full-on communism in this country.
00:42:48.000And you definitely see that expressed with the support for Luigi Maggioni.
00:42:53.000They want to see more people shot in the streets.
00:42:56.000They want to see probably all four of us on this podcast shot in the streets, and they would have our children taken away and given off to whatever couple wanted to adopt them.
00:43:36.000I think that's actually a piece to what we're talking about.
00:43:39.000And it's really important for people to be really well-educated on this is that there is a much deeper, bigger problem politically here that Jack, again, led into this entire thing with is that this is a way bigger issue.
00:43:53.000This is not just a simple dismiss the murderer type thing.
00:43:56.000I'm going to mention something Blake's not going to like.
00:43:59.000FBI launched an investigation into James Comey.
00:44:16.000This all ties in with Dan Bongino going in.
00:44:18.000So new leadership at the FBI is starting an investigation into the origins of the agency's plan a decade ago to infiltrate Trump's campaign using two female undercover honeypot agents.
00:44:36.000The off-the-books investigation, launched in 2015 by James Comey, was revealed by an agency whistleblower in a protected disclosure to the House Judiciary Committee last year and was first reported exclusively by Washington Times.
00:44:50.000So this apparently has been out there.
00:44:52.000And the intel community, in the intel community, Honeypot commonly refers to an undercover operative, usually a woman, who feigns sexual or romantic interest to obtain information from a target.
00:45:05.000This is very, very good that this is happening because the communists will not stop until they are stopped.
00:45:13.000So we talked about how we've got these gay race communists in our intel communities.
00:45:19.000I seem to remember a certain senator from Wisconsin telling us that communists were taking over the CIA, but I digress.
00:45:24.000And now we know, of course, that we've got communists all throughout the DOJ and the prior iteration of the FBI. And the issue with fighting communism is one thing that we learned throughout all of this is that the only way to actually stop communism is to stop the communists themselves.
00:45:44.000You're not going to win, you know, you're not going to go up to some ardent Luigi Maggioni supporter and say, stop supporting him!
00:45:53.000What you have to do is you have to find the individuals and you have the people who have actually broken the law in furtherance of their radical ideology.
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00:48:20.000Alright, so the starting point of this is just that Elon Musk tweeted a few days ago, just one of his one-liners, that the AI singularity is near?
00:48:33.000Yeah, so we are on the event horizon of the singularity.
00:48:37.000That's the tipping point of a black hole where you can't get out of it, basically.
00:48:41.000And so for those who missed it, the singularity is the idea that we could improve AI to the point where an AI is smarter than a human.
00:48:51.000And the AI is therefore capable of improving itself.
00:48:54.000But we were still about 10 years out from that, right?
00:48:56.000It was one of those things we were perpetually 10 years out from for decades on end since it was coined.
00:49:02.000And then I think with the chat GPT thing taking off a couple years ago, it feels suddenly much more relevant that we could be close to that.
00:49:09.000We've seen the AI models have gotten a lot better in the last two years.
00:49:13.000They've gotten a lot better in the last six months.
00:49:16.000Our allegedly abilities that are behind the scenes and are not public yet, that are getting better and better and better.
00:49:22.000The question is, would it ever reach the point where, as it was, if they...
00:49:27.000Are able to improve themselves without our input.
00:49:30.000The idea is you could just turn on the AI and it's able to go run away, improve itself, make more AIs, make better AIs.
00:49:37.000And then in theory, within a matter of...
00:49:48.000A month that comes back and it says, I've advanced physics and chemistry and biology by a thousand years each, and I figured out how to make unlimited food and unlimited energy, and we can sail to the stars, and you're all immortal now.
00:50:00.000That's in theory what the good singularity could be.
00:50:02.000The bad singularity is it becomes a runaway intelligence, and it decides to turn all of us into paperclips.
00:50:07.000Yeah, so I think the first concern is that the amount of physical energy that it takes to do that, I don't think the infrastructure has been built yet.
00:50:53.000It is very interesting because each, you know, they have to train these basically.
00:50:58.000And the training is you're just feeding it essentially every image, every sentence, every piece of music ever created to find all the patterns.
00:51:06.000And every time they upgrade it, so we started with, you know, GPT-1, GPT-2, and of course all the spinoffs.
00:51:11.000Kind of every time they upgrade the quality, apparently the amount of energy they have to put into training it is like an order of magnitude higher.
00:51:17.000And we don't yet have the infrastructure to do that.
00:51:21.000And we now have insane demand for AI. So what we're about to see is an AI traffic jam, the likes of which that really is going to tick people off.
00:51:30.000But the flip side of this is also crazy, which is, have you heard about DeepSeek?
00:51:36.000So the Chinese thing, but what's crazy with the DeepSeek...
00:51:38.000I know more about AI than I do about pop culture.
00:51:39.000What's crazy with DeepSeek is that the Chinese, according to themselves, people have wondered if it's true, but the people who made DeepSeek claim they trained this AI, which is not quite as good, but almost as good as the top-end models we have, and they reportedly did it much cheaper and much faster.
00:51:59.000But there's a lot of cope about China.
00:52:00.000Have you seen this video of the AI talking to each other?
00:52:03.000There's cope, but I did actually see, Blake, I did actually see there was some reporting that it looked like they had trained DeepSeek from OpenAI.
00:52:15.000So they had already used an iteration of OpenAI that existed, I guess ChatGPT or one of the GPTs that's out there, and that had used it just...
00:52:23.000Like building on what was already out there, which would certainly go along with how China operates.
00:52:29.000I don't think that China would be precluded from creating something like this, by the way.
00:52:34.000And Charlie, to your point about the massive energy expenditures, I mean, China loves their mega projects.
00:52:39.000There's nothing that China loves more than mega projects.
00:52:41.000Yeah, so I'm not believing that singularity is going to be hit anytime soon.
00:54:22.000And I actually think it can be really exciting and also terrifying.
00:54:25.000If singularity is reached, Jack, is it a species?
00:54:30.000You know, what's funny is, so I rewatched The Matrix last weekend, and I guess I forgot how much of the buildup in that movie is, it's all based around AI. It's all based around...
00:54:46.000You know, AI becomes self-aware and then they eventually become a breakaway species from us.
00:54:52.000And then they launch a war with us, humans, and then humans black out the sky because the AIs are all solar powered.
00:55:00.000And that's what creates this huge dystopia, which then causes the robots to want to make, you know, make humans into their batteries.
00:55:07.000And that's what they create the Matrix for.
00:55:40.000I mean, it's probably a little bit, you know, set up.
00:55:43.000So the idea of an AI agent is sort of like...
00:55:46.000You know, hey, we got to book travel or we've got to book a, you know, Charlie's got Turning Point's got a, you know, a series of campus stops and, you know, Charlie Kirk's coming in.
00:55:58.000So you would get an AI agent that would go in and, you know, do all that busy work for you, make the phone calls and go through all the logistics work of it.
00:56:06.000Or, you know, when Amvest is going on and everyone's got to deal with all that, you would get an AI agent.
00:56:11.000So, you know, Turning Point Actions event staff would get.
00:56:15.000Didn't AI agents do all those phone calls and one that can speak?
00:56:18.000Well, in this video, an AI agent, and it's planning a wedding in the video, which I'm sure is an ad, but it realizes that the person that they're speaking to over the phone is in fact an AI agent for the wedding venue, which is a hotel in this case.
00:56:35.000And so they say, oh, do you want to switch to jibberspeak?
00:58:25.000To figure it out and to make sure that the benefits are widely distributed as opposed to the possibility is just the guy who owns the robot owns everything.
00:58:34.000All of these are moral questions and that's why it comes back to why we're conservatives, not libertarians.
00:58:39.000That's why I think it's the most interesting thing that's facing humanity is that it all comes back to, well, we need a neutral public space.
00:58:44.000There is no neutral public space or AI. You need to make truth claims.
00:59:00.000To take a step back for a moment, think about what this shows you about politics.
00:59:04.000If you went back 2016, Trump was running for president, and you told them, yeah, in 10 years, by far the biggest political issue is going to be how we handle AI and robots, because they're going to replace absolutely everyone, and that's going to be way more important than the border, for example.
00:59:33.000No one will ever be talking about, like, terrorism as a big issue.
00:59:36.000Wait, so what's going to happen then in this country?
00:59:38.000We were just talking about the communism thing.
00:59:39.000What's going to happen when we've got all these imported cheap foreign laborers from the H-2B and H-1B and all the rest of these programs, and now they can't get jobs because we've got robots doing all of it?
00:59:51.000Listen, we're going towards a mass social welfare state, and the only way that they're going to be able to...
00:59:56.000There's going to be a robot tax where every robot that is working is going to be like $50,000 a year to the government that you're going to have to pay that will go to a UBIT. That idea has been floated.
01:00:27.000And so I'm saying, like, these are insane questions that we're facing.
01:00:31.000But at the other side, there's incredibly bullish interpretations to the sector that I'm most excited about, not on the mRNA vaccine thing, but just the number one problem with medicine and health care is data.
01:00:44.000No one knows what you have, your background.
01:01:14.000Imagine if Trump came in and said, we're going to spend $10 billion to figure out how to use AI to make Medicare and Medicaid more efficient.
01:01:21.000Yes, we're just saying, we're going to find out if you have a predisposition to cancer by age 35. The technology there is there.
01:02:05.000And I mean, it is this, here's, and we'll close with this because I know Tyler's got to run and I got to run.
01:02:11.000There is a temptation to think we're going to enter into a Star Trek world where no one owns anything and there's no currency.
01:02:18.000I think it's going to be a lot clumsier than that.
01:02:20.000I think that if we don't have good leadership and statesmen of the Churchillian type, this will get us into war the likes of which we've never seen.
01:02:27.000There will be revolution in the streets.
01:02:28.000It'll make the Russian Revolution look like child's play.
01:02:31.000If 5,000 people own everything and robots are running the world, there will be a workers' revolt that no one can control.
01:02:39.000So these are the most—I just want everyone to—you can mark this down.
01:02:42.000February 2025, this is going to—this will redefine everything.
01:02:53.000You want to go into the deep, dark conversations on this online is thinking about how voting is impacted, how people are elected.
01:03:02.000The disgusting, scary part of this world is that this is the reason why everyone is so lindelian about the machines is AI's impact on how...
01:04:08.000You read the ones who are just like, I don't even bother saving for retirement because I'm so convinced the AI apocalypse is coming that we're all just going to die.
01:04:15.000Well, the aliens are supposed to protect us from that.
01:04:21.000I'm more interested that it's going to...
01:04:23.000I think that we are being, as a movement, prepared for this window of time where we complain, oh, the boomers this, like Gen Z millennials, when we get towards peak political maturity in 15 or 20 years, all of this experience is going to have a crescendo where we're going to be answering and deciding and governing.
01:04:47.000It will be like the Magna Carta for human beings.
01:04:50.000I know that might sound like a hyperbole, but like 500 years from now, they're going to look back and be like, wow, in 2040, that original Declaration of Rights of here's what AI does and here's what it doesn't do.
01:05:03.000And then we chart the path for the next thousand years.
01:05:25.000I've done so much thinking about this.
01:05:26.000there will be such a revealing moment of someone that's nakedly bought by corporations that will make a short-term deal yeah where they're like and they'll just do it for money or a payoff where these corporations are like i can displace 99 of my workforce and like that's going to expose our politics in a way that will make people revolt so anything else you want to add to that i'm still right about singularity No, actually.
01:05:53.000The singularity involves emergence of artificial general intelligence, AGI, which means it has human-level cognitive abilities followed by artificial superintelligence which would exceed human abilities that would allow it to have sentience and self-awareness.
01:06:08.000Yes, but then it's the superintelligence where it improves faster.