The Charlie Kirk Show - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 76 — Cannibal Democrats? Subscription Services? VR Prisons?

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00:01:34.000 Welcome to Thought Crime Thursday.

00:01:35.000 We are live, is that correct?

00:01:37.000 We are live, Charlie.

00:01:38.000 Alright, so don't anyone say anything you're going to regret.

00:01:40.000 We got Jack, we got Tyler, we got Blake.

00:01:42.000 What is our first topic today?

00:01:44.000 Our first topic tonight, Charlie, Jack really wanted us to hit this.

00:01:47.000 Swattings.

00:01:48.000 Jack, I think you have the details on this.

00:01:50.000 Hey, there's something I actually know.

00:01:52.000 Well, there's been some reports about some bad actors going on and targeting.

00:01:59.000 It seems to be...

00:02:03.000 Conservative influencers or a group of people, you know, sort of associated with conservative politics.

00:02:09.000 One is a host at Infowars, Chase Geithner.

00:02:14.000 This, of course, comes, or Geiser.

00:02:16.000 This comes on the heels, of course, of, I believe it's a separate incident, but, of course, a horrific murder of...

00:02:22.000 A, an Infowars staffer a couple of days ago in Austin, but then also, and this is, you know, kind of new to me, I'm just coming to it, but Sean Farash, Gunther Edgington, and potentially others, people are asking, texting me, saying, hey, are you guys okay?

00:02:39.000 And my parents, people know, were SWATed.

00:02:44.000 A year ago at Christmastime, and since then, the individual who did that, I was going to pull up the case a second ago, I was just looking it up, was actually found and extradited to the United States.

00:02:58.000 It was actually a foreign case, but I guess this guy thought that he could get away with it, but he could not, and so it seems to me there's another round of swattings that's going on. 0.98

00:03:11.000 Right now, and honestly, it's something where, I'll just put it like this, this needs to be looked at for what it is.

00:03:19.000 The reason that these are done is because they want the police to go in there, guns blazing, they want to generate, particularly when you're targeting conservatives, a lot of us are gun owners, a lot of us are...

00:03:33.000 Strong enthusiasts in exercising our Second Amendment.

00:03:37.000 I know I certainly am.

00:03:38.000 And so they want to create a situation that could lead to a potential fatal incident or fatal harm.

00:03:46.000 So when I look at these swatting incidents...

00:03:49.000 They could go sideways very quickly.

00:03:51.000 Now, of course, what's great with my situation is that we've been very, very close with law enforcement.

00:03:57.000 Our law enforcement has been great in terms of this, in terms of their response, once you realize what was actually going on.

00:04:02.000 But this needs to be looked at from a federal level.

00:04:05.000 And we've got Kash Patel over at the FBI. We've got Pam Bondi at the Attorney General's office.

00:04:11.000 And by the way, I've always said this, and I've been very clear about this.

00:04:14.000 I don't care what side of the political eye you're on.

00:04:17.000 This is something that...

00:04:18.000 This is why doxing is so evil.

00:04:21.000 This is why swatting is so evil in general, because it can lead to...

00:04:27.000 Killing.

00:04:27.000 It can lead to fatal outcomes.

00:04:29.000 If someone's not getting knocked at the door, they don't know what's going on.

00:04:33.000 People do a no-knock rage, these types of things.

00:04:35.000 So sometimes they go very smoothly and sometimes they don't.

00:04:39.000 And it's happened in the past.

00:04:40.000 Or someone who doesn't know what's going on answers the door.

00:04:43.000 All sorts of things can take place.

00:04:45.000 So, look, I'd say this to anybody, though, who's in this situation or if you think you might be in a situation like this, make sure you be proactive.

00:04:53.000 Call local law enforcement.

00:04:55.000 Get on the books with them.

00:04:57.000 Find out whoever's running the shift on there and tell them, hey, I might be a potential target of this or this might be something that's going on.

00:05:10.000 Try to hopefully have some friends in your local community and local law enforcement.

00:05:14.000 I know I certainly do, and that's something that helped us a lot.

00:05:17.000 And there's also, by the way, I'll say this as well.

00:05:19.000 There are services out there.

00:05:21.000 So a lot of these pull from those publicly available databases.

00:05:24.000 Everybody knows about them where you can look up people's addresses and things like this online.

00:05:28.000 Well, there are actually services that you can get and pay for.

00:05:31.000 I'm not advertising any here, but just go and look into it yourself where you can go and get it.

00:05:36.000 And it's a little bit of money, but it's not that much money actually at the end of the day where they can run real-time monitoring and actually get your information pulled down from those websites on a rolling basis.

00:05:49.000 Sometimes if it gets leaked somehow, and it includes, by the way, other PII, like email addresses, phone numbers.

00:05:55.000 You can get family members on there, etc.

00:05:58.000 So I get that.

00:05:59.000 I pay for that for my family, and that's something that's helped us really, really well get it down from those public sites.

00:06:04.000 It works great.

00:06:05.000 I would just highly recommend that to anybody who's worried about this.

00:06:10.000 We had an event recently and someone came up threatening and literally reading off my home address, like threatening us live on air there in front of a lot of people.

00:06:17.000 So it's a real problem.

00:06:18.000 Blake, how do we solve this?

00:06:19.000 Because it's a legitimate issue.

00:06:21.000 So I'm looking it up now just as an example because we did that case where they extradited some individuals for swatting and they got these two guys, a guy from Romania and a guy from Serbia.

00:06:30.000 Their list of code names that they used for communicating.

00:06:35.000 They charged them with conspiracy.

00:06:37.000 They charged them with 29 counts.

00:06:39.000 Blake, I think that's the ones who targeted my parents.

00:06:41.000 Yeah, it might be.

00:06:42.000 They had targeted other people, it looks like.

00:06:44.000 So it would not have just been then.

00:06:45.000 But they had 29 counts of threats and false information regarding explosives and 4 counts of transmitting threats in interstate and foreign commerce.

00:06:53.000 And I imagine if these guys are convicted, they could get...

00:06:56.000 You know, several years in prison, but I think the way you crack this down, you crack down on this for good is you catch someone doing this and you say, your goal was to have someone get shot by police.

00:07:09.000 We are charging you with attempted murder.

00:07:11.000 Enjoy 40 years in prison.

00:07:12.000 And the federal government should do it. 0.98

00:07:14.000 You do it to one person and after that, they are the example where everyone thinks, I'm not going to swat someone because my stupid feud on the internet is not worth 40 years in prison. 0.97

00:07:23.000 I completely agree. 0.98

00:07:25.000 And that's what it is.

00:07:26.000 It is attempted murder.

00:07:27.000 Tyler.

00:07:27.000 What if we take everybody that wants to SWAT people and we put them in ICE and we have them target illegals?

00:07:35.000 Or what if we made them live training dummies for SWAT training? 0.93

00:07:42.000 That's getting dark.

00:07:43.000 Anybody that wants to send police to someone's house in tactical gear.

00:07:52.000 Why don't we just make them a part of it?

00:07:54.000 You know how they rehabilitate former criminals and sometimes they put them in intelligence communities?

00:08:00.000 Just put them in and then go after illegals. 1.00

00:08:05.000 I will say this too.

00:08:08.000 It seems to be a predominantly on the right problem.

00:08:15.000 I don't know a lot of left people.

00:08:17.000 I think this was bipartisan for a time.

00:08:20.000 I just have to compliment the police forces, though.

00:08:23.000 The police forces, praise God, they've been going in a lot more restrained, and they're getting prepped on this, and they are getting, for example, where our headquarters is, and everyone can figure that out, we've sat down with police, and we're on a list that if there's ever a crisis call, they have to call back and be like, is it actually a...

00:08:43.000 Which actually makes...

00:08:44.000 Things more dangerous.

00:08:46.000 God forbid there was ever a crisis here on the Turning Point campus.

00:08:50.000 Now the police are wondering, are they going into an actual crisis or is this a prank?

00:08:54.000 Does that make sense?

00:08:55.000 It does.

00:08:56.000 I feel like in real life, if that were to happen, the benefit we have is we have a good number of people here.

00:09:01.000 They would get 15 911 calls in a minute.

00:09:04.000 We have 45 firearms here.

00:09:06.000 Exactly.

00:09:07.000 That also.

00:09:08.000 We got a lot of weapons.

00:09:09.000 The whole tech team there.

00:09:10.000 They could defend Taiwan if China got too aggressive.

00:09:14.000 We just call them up.

00:09:15.000 We don't need police protection.

00:09:16.000 The weaponry in our tech team.

00:09:17.000 Have you seen what they got there?

00:09:18.000 They got stuff I haven't even heard of.

00:09:20.000 We just call up the police and we're like, yeah, we actually don't need your help, but we do need a cleanup crew here.

00:09:26.000 Ryan says, just send an ambulance.

00:09:29.000 To be clear, only to take them to the morgue.

00:09:32.000 That's the instruction, actually.

00:09:34.000 I actually have a theory about that, Charlie, about the right versus the left.

00:09:38.000 I think the left...

00:09:40.000 There's more people that want to hit famous people, and the famous people, for the most part, they already have plans like that that you're describing.

00:09:48.000 For most of those people, they know to call back, to double-check, do all that before they send somebody.

00:09:53.000 A lot of the people on the right that are kind of up-and-comer are a lot of influencers and things like that.

00:09:59.000 Aren't, like, known celebrities and things like that that haven't come up with those plans with the local law enforcement.

00:10:05.000 So I think it's easier for the left to go after kind of right-leaning influencers and, you know, our celebs and do that kind of thing.

00:10:14.000 I mean, I think it's repulsive, and I think the FBI should get involved.

00:10:17.000 I mean, I think it's an interstate.

00:10:19.000 It's almost always interstate.

00:10:20.000 It's almost never in the same state.

00:10:21.000 Is that correct?

00:10:22.000 Almost never.

00:10:23.000 And it's a growing and serious major issue.

00:10:27.000 I'm looking now, and one guy did get 20 years in prison.

00:10:30.000 There was a swatting in Wichita in 2017 where a man was angry over a beef in the video game Call of Duty World War II. And so he swatted someone, and that got someone killed.

00:10:41.000 So he got 20 years...

00:10:43.000 Yeah, it started with games, like video games.

00:10:45.000 Yeah, yeah, it started with...

00:10:46.000 The online games.

00:10:47.000 It's totally a thing that just comes from losers on the internet, basically.

00:10:51.000 Yeah. 0.70

00:10:51.000 But... 0.70

00:10:51.000 There's a lot of losers on the internet who care a lot about politics, too. 0.70

00:10:55.000 So they do destructive stuff like this. 1.00

00:10:58.000 But I think, yeah, the fix is you are an attempted murderer.

00:11:01.000 I think someone has gotten killed via a SWAT. Yeah, that's the Wichita one. 0.75

00:11:05.000 I don't know that a politics one has gotten anyone killed.

00:11:07.000 But I think police forces are getting better and better at...

00:11:13.000 Don't you agree?

00:11:15.000 But again, I want to just repeat this.

00:11:17.000 God forbid that there's an actual hostage situation or an actual crisis like this, and they go on not thinking it's real, and it is real.

00:11:25.000 I mean, it's bad for everybody.

00:11:27.000 I think it's even worse than attempted murder.

00:11:29.000 I think it's an act of terrorism.

00:11:30.000 I think that it's bad for the entire community, bad for the police force.

00:11:33.000 I know that might sound like an exorbitant statement, but the goal is absolutely to get people killed.

00:11:41.000 This is unreal.

00:11:42.000 A man in 2020 died of a heart attack while police were hitting his house, and the swatting was done against him in an attempt to force him to give up his Twitter handle, at Tennessee.

00:11:53.000 And this is sick stuff. 0.75

00:11:56.000 Sickos out there, man. 1.00

00:11:57.000 They are crazy, demented individuals. 1.00

00:12:00.000 But are they as crazy and demented as the next thing we're going to talk about? 1.00

00:12:03.000 Let's go to that. 0.99

00:12:04.000 Let's go to that.

00:12:04.000 All righty.

00:12:05.000 All right, Charlie.

00:12:06.000 We got this hot off the presses from Charlie today.

00:12:09.000 This is made just for thought.

00:12:10.000 We had other topics in mind, but Charlie was like, no, we need to talk about this.

00:12:13.000 This is designed for thought.

00:12:14.000 This is not YouTube-friendly.

00:12:16.000 Exactly.

00:12:17.000 So this is a story out of, and of course it's Washington State.

00:12:22.000 Where, so what happens is, the town of Linwood, Washington, is that where Emma Kate is from?

00:12:29.000 We should find out.

00:12:31.000 Nah, it's just a Seattle suburb, of course.

00:12:34.000 Anyway, so the town of Linwood, Washington, has a city council, and they were going to appoint someone to a vacancy.

00:12:41.000 I guess it's a town where that can happen.

00:12:43.000 And they settled on an individual named Jessica Ann Roberts, 32 years old.

00:12:51.000 And they chose Jessica Ann Roberts over a military veteran who was also contending for the post. 0.74

00:12:57.000 And then after they made the announcement, a few people pointed out, wait, have you guys actually looked up this person or done any sort of background check?

00:13:07.000 You know, I think I'll just read the headline from the Post Millennial here.

00:13:11.000 Breaking.

00:13:12.000 Washington trans OnlyFans City Council appointee rescinds candidacy after cannibal fetish controversy.

00:13:21.000 That is a headline I don't think, like, ChatGPT could generate on its own.

00:13:25.000 I think that...

00:13:26.000 That's one only real life could create. 0.94

00:13:29.000 So, Jessica Ann Roberts was born Neil Vincent Roberts and has a hidden history as a sex worker that includes an uncontrollable desire to impregnate women and then eat them. 0.90

00:13:41.000 So, in other words, this guy was just too normal for the Democrat party.

00:13:45.000 Basically, everything was fine up until the cannibalism.

00:13:47.000 Is that the line?

00:13:48.000 I just want to be clear.

00:13:49.000 I think that was the line.

00:13:50.000 After the Democrat Party, everything was cool.

00:13:51.000 The tranny part, the OnlyFans thing, but the eating. 0.97

00:13:55.000 And it had to be close.

00:13:55.000 By the way, you have to look at it.

00:13:57.000 It's disgusting. 0.53

00:13:57.000 It had to be close because the Democrats are kind of in favor of eating unborn children, so it was probably that they wanted to eat the mom, too, that would put it over the line for them. 0.53

00:14:08.000 But yeah, we have some images of what they were saying, and I believe edited so that they're not...

00:14:14.000 Super duper horrifying here.

00:14:17.000 How about we put up 176?

00:14:21.000 So they found all the posts this guy was making on a subreddit, which we really need to quarantine Reddit in some capacity.

00:14:29.000 But this is a Reddit called slash vore, V-O-R-E, which I guess is short for carnivore or humivore.

00:14:37.000 Is there actually Reddits dedicated towards cannibalism?

00:14:40.000 Of course there are.

00:14:41.000 I'm sure.

00:14:42.000 But they did ban the one for supporting Donald Trump.

00:14:44.000 Of course.

00:14:44.000 So, you know.

00:14:44.000 R the Donald was awesome.

00:14:46.000 R the Donald.

00:14:47.000 It was great.

00:14:48.000 I got a lot of good content from R the Donald.

00:14:51.000 It's apparently worse than cannibalism.

00:14:52.000 I've never been able to.

00:14:53.000 Rest in peace.

00:14:54.000 Rest in peace.

00:14:55.000 I have not been able to find a similar synthesized community of, like, until our group chat.

00:15:01.000 You know.

00:15:03.000 Until I found.

00:15:05.000 So this is a post.

00:15:07.000 So it was the discussion Preds.

00:15:09.000 Predators, I think.

00:15:10.000 I got a question.

00:15:11.000 Okay, okay.

00:15:12.000 So how do you like your prey to react when they go down in and once they're in?

00:15:18.000 I assume in your stomach.

00:15:20.000 I want to get better just in case I find myself a snack.

00:15:24.000 And then I'm not sure if the OP is that guy or if this other...

00:15:28.000 Is it the other Aardvark guy who's this one? 0.99

00:15:31.000 I love scoping up random girls and taunting them about how they're going to fuel me, how their entire life built up to the moment where I snuff them out and use their fat and nutrients to become stronger. 1.00

00:15:46.000 Very healthy and normal and okay.

00:15:49.000 And they were like, yeah, this guy seems legit.

00:15:51.000 Let's put him on the city council.

00:15:53.000 Now, admittedly, they appear to have not known about this, but I've got to admit, I feel like there were probably warning signs.

00:16:01.000 Possibly some sort of visible external sign that this individual was mentally unwell and perhaps in the grips of delusions and insanity of some kind.

00:16:14.000 I wonder what could have given away.

00:16:16.000 What could have...

00:16:17.000 Nah, there must not have been anything.

00:16:19.000 There's probably no way to see this coming.

00:16:20.000 We can't really blame the city council for this, can we?

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00:17:27.000 Jack, what is your take on this delicious topic?

00:17:31.000 Get it?

00:17:32.000 Delicious.

00:17:32.000 Yeah, you know, I mean, it's like the great line.

00:17:35.000 They always used to go after Trump for this, for saying, you know, he's talking about illegals, but he always used to bring up Hannibal Lecter on the campaign trail saying, you know, Hannibal Lecter, he wants to have you for dinner, and talking about the emptying of prisons, and he would sort of use this as a, you know, a sobriquet to explain sort of the insanity that was going on.

00:17:54.000 But Charlie, you know, I think it really goes to show you that when we talk about the insanity, That is perpetuated in the United States today.

00:18:05.000 And it makes me think of something we talked about last year in our book that we identified called the fried mental model.

00:18:12.000 And there's a lot of people out there that just have an absolutely fried mental model of the world.

00:18:18.000 Many of them are located in some of these places.

00:18:21.000 That are hotbeds of leftism, like a lot of the Washington area is.

00:18:27.000 This is the state of Washington, so you've got Seattle up there.

00:18:29.000 That's where CHAZ took place.

00:18:31.000 I witnessed just insane levels of depravity and degeneracy when I was there.

00:18:37.000 But, of course, you see it all throughout the Pacific Northwest.

00:18:40.000 And these sort of things used to be confined to those areas, but now because of the Internet and because of TikTok, these types of ideas, these types of social contagions, and these types of ideals, Are spread everywhere.

00:18:52.000 They're just all over the place.

00:18:54.000 And so it's almost like they sort of have a race to the bottom that's going on because leftist politics actually incentivizes this kind of behavior in certain ways.

00:19:02.000 So that in order to be more risque, in order to be more taboo against the social order, you must push yourself to further and further extreme behaviors.

00:19:14.000 And that's exactly what you have.

00:19:16.000 Because you can't take out the fact, right?

00:19:18.000 You can't take out the fact. 0.99

00:19:19.000 Only fans, trans, cannibal, fetish. 0.99

00:19:24.000 But also that this thing was running for office. 0.98

00:19:30.000 Also views all of that through the political lens.

00:19:34.000 So in leftist politics, these types of things are inseparable.

00:19:38.000 They are inseparable from leftist politics.

00:19:41.000 I have a question.

00:19:42.000 This is a feature.

00:19:43.000 This is not a bug.

00:19:44.000 If you were to argue from a left-wing perspective.

00:19:48.000 What argument could you make that eating human beings is wrong?

00:19:51.000 By what standard?

00:19:53.000 I actually, I don't think you can.

00:19:56.000 I mean, if two people love each other very, very much and one of them agrees to go into the other's tummy...

00:20:03.000 Well, so let's just kind of play out with all the kind of one-liners I hear on campus.

00:20:06.000 Well, Charlie, it doesn't impact you.

00:20:09.000 They say it causes suffering.

00:20:10.000 What if the person's already dead?

00:20:11.000 What if you go to a morgue and you strike a deal?

00:20:13.000 And you're like, I'm just going to take, you know...

00:20:17.000 A leg.

00:20:18.000 A weak.

00:20:19.000 Just could be deceased.

00:20:21.000 You know, why, under the leftist worldview, is that wrong?

00:20:27.000 You got me.

00:20:29.000 No, I mean this non-circuit.

00:20:30.000 Of course, we as conservatives think the body is sacred and it's disgusting and wrong and repulsive and evil to consume a fellow human being.

00:20:39.000 Otherwise, besides all the other legal...

00:20:41.000 I'm just saying, morally...

00:20:42.000 What is the left-wing objection to cannibalism?

00:20:45.000 To go even further, I don't think they could even articulate that the fact that someone would have this fetish that they want to eat someone, that this indicates something is wrong with them when it clearly does.

00:20:59.000 I mean, there's all sorts of stuff.

00:21:01.000 Even his public...

00:21:02.000 Oh, wait.

00:21:03.000 This, I guess, is his OnlyFans account.

00:21:05.000 Jessica had an OnlyFans account.

00:21:06.000 A bisexual trans woman with itty-bitty... 1.00

00:21:09.000 And a big girl... 0.94

00:21:10.000 I'm told R. The Donald is back, by the way.

00:21:13.000 Oh, is it?

00:21:14.000 It says Ask The Donald.

00:21:15.000 It's not the same.

00:21:16.000 Oh, that's totally different.

00:21:17.000 That's not the same.

00:21:18.000 I follow it.

00:21:18.000 So they have Patriots Win is like a separate website they set up.

00:21:21.000 Forget it.

00:21:23.000 Oh, and of course this guy...

00:21:25.000 Oh, this wasn't even highlighted in the article.

00:21:26.000 He's also basically like...

00:21:28.000 I enjoy being a professor, teacher, or babysitter who reluctantly disciplines the children.

00:21:49.000 This person should be locked up.

00:21:51.000 By eating them?

00:21:52.000 I guess, yes.

00:21:53.000 That's this Hansel and Gretel thing.

00:21:55.000 But to Charlie's point, I mean, this is what's happened.

00:21:59.000 The creep, I mean, it's literally on all their flags now.

00:22:02.000 Like, just add...

00:22:03.000 Just add the cannibalism to it now at this point. 0.98

00:22:08.000 These people are absolute freaks. 1.00

00:22:09.000 They're mentally ill. 1.00

00:22:10.000 There's no difference. 0.99

00:22:12.000 And you can see even in that, to what you just read, there's this weirdo crossover between all this stuff that they've tried to normalize into literally murder and cannibalism.

00:22:24.000 I mean, they're talking about murder.

00:22:26.000 That's what they're talking about.

00:22:28.000 In every single one of those posts.

00:22:30.000 Do you think that there is a...

00:22:32.000 Do you think there are many non-tranny cannibals? 1.00

00:22:36.000 I only know of one other case.

00:22:39.000 Of the cannibal community, what percentage are trannies? 0.98

00:22:42.000 It's gotta be higher. 0.97

00:22:44.000 No, Hannibal had some weird sexual stuff, though.

00:22:46.000 Was he trans?

00:22:47.000 Are we talking about Silence of the Lambs?

00:22:49.000 No, no, no.

00:22:51.000 The Buffalo Bill had the weird sexual stuff.

00:22:53.000 Oh, they did dress up, yeah.

00:22:55.000 No, no.

00:22:55.000 I think that there might be a...

00:22:57.000 There's almost a one-to-one here.

00:22:58.000 Yeah.

00:22:59.000 Now, I'm not saying all trainees are cannibals.

00:23:01.000 I'm asking the question, are all cannibals trans? 0.56

00:23:03.000 So now I'm looking up.

00:23:04.000 The only other major cannibalism case I know of, there was a guy in Germany who 25 years ago...

00:23:09.000 I put up an ad on Craigslist that was basically like, I want to eat somebody and I'm looking for a volunteer.

00:23:16.000 And a guy answered it and went to his house and was killed and eaten.

00:23:21.000 And the man is currently in prison.

00:23:22.000 So I'm trying to find out if he had any other tells, as it were.

00:23:27.000 Dahmer was for sure, in today's society, wouldn't have been gay.

00:23:32.000 He would have been trans. 0.88

00:23:33.000 I think I'm onto something here.

00:23:34.000 No, for sure.

00:23:35.000 I'm trying to think of the movie.

00:23:37.000 What's the movie where something happens?

00:23:38.000 Oh.

00:23:39.000 It was one of the Adam Sandler movies, and what's his face?

00:23:44.000 The actor kills somebody, or he's got a list from high school, remember, and he puts on the lipstick?

00:23:50.000 I haven't seen this.

00:23:52.000 It's Steve Buscemi.

00:23:52.000 Yeah, it's Steve Buscemi and Billy Madison.

00:23:55.000 It's not quite cannibalism, but it's murderous, weirdo traits where you have that crossover.

00:24:05.000 I think Charlie's right. 0.91

00:24:06.000 Deep down, every single cannibal is probably trans. 1.00

00:24:12.000 We don't have a lot to go off of.

00:24:13.000 The cannibal community is not yet a...

00:24:17.000 We're going to have cannibal rights.

00:24:19.000 I am curious that at the DNC 2028, when they nominate just like AI, I think that's what they're going to do, by the way.

00:24:28.000 I think it's AI 2028. I think they're going to nominate an algorithm.

00:24:31.000 I'm not kidding.

00:24:33.000 I think...

00:24:34.000 I don't want to be me, Charlie, but I feel like we're probably closer to, like, do you think if they made a perfectly, if they came out and they're like, this AI perfectly replicates Donald Trump, like, quite a few people would probably want to vote for that.

00:24:44.000 I wouldn't.

00:24:45.000 What I am saying, though, is that if they even entertained Pete Buttigieg, they would totally vote for an algorithm.

00:24:49.000 That's fair.

00:24:50.000 That's fair.

00:24:51.000 Pete Buttigieg is a man who, when he was, like, 16 years old, he made the list of, like, everything he had to do to become president, and he's been sociopathically executing it ever since.

00:24:59.000 The fact that he's even entertained as a serious contender.

00:25:02.000 That's like Sam Altman created him.

00:25:05.000 Yes, yeah.

00:25:05.000 I think Sam Altman's first project was Pete Buttigieg.

00:25:09.000 Then he did OpenAI.

00:25:09.000 Yeah.

00:25:10.000 Anyway.

00:25:11.000 And then he did this guy?

00:25:12.000 Yes, evidently.

00:25:14.000 So I guess at the Democrat 2028, when they say, you know, OpenAI 2028, will we have a cannibal rights section on the floor?

00:25:24.000 I mean, I feel like they should.

00:25:25.000 I feel like that would only be fair.

00:25:27.000 But who are we to judge their dietary habits?

00:25:29.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:25:30.000 By the way, it would help with the depopulation problem.

00:25:34.000 It would save space in cemeteries.

00:25:37.000 It would.

00:25:38.000 It would really increase the amount of utility in the world.

00:25:41.000 Utilitarianly, we should, in fact, mandate cannibalism.

00:25:44.000 So every cannibal deep down is a tranny and a democracy. 1.00

00:25:47.000 It's kind of like recycling.

00:25:48.000 You know, it's like recycling, you know?

00:25:50.000 Well, yeah, I mean, so, but if your whole goal is about saving the environment, to Blake's point, look at all that protein and nutrients that otherwise could be going to nourish.

00:25:58.000 Yeah, this would have to be the most moral type of meat out there.

00:26:01.000 But think about it, if we want to no longer have carbon emissions because of farting cows or because of all the industrial farming, you know, there's millions of people that die in America every single year.

00:26:11.000 That could feed starving children. 0.92

00:26:14.000 So are they Green Party?

00:26:16.000 Blake, have you ever heard of the scientific idea of a generation spaceship?

00:26:26.000 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:26:27.000 So I've read some theories about that where in a generation ship...

00:26:32.000 So guys, that means the possibility for interstellar travel because it takes so long to travel there at sub-late speeds.

00:26:39.000 that you would have multiple generations of families living on the ship before it gets from one planet to the other.

00:26:45.000 And that one of the potential uses for the older generation that dies would then be for their bodies and protein to go into like either, you know, creating like a biosphere type thing on the ship or go into some sort of like hydroponic thing or be able to use in the ship's energy, creating like a biosphere type thing on the ship or go It's kind of like a matrix sort of thing.

00:27:05.000 I don't know.

00:27:06.000 It's just it's just something.

00:27:07.000 All kidding aside, we'll get to the next segment.

00:27:10.000 In the Christian tradition, we believe the body is sacred.

00:27:14.000 And that's why we believe Christ actually took human flesh.

00:27:17.000 We believe we're actually going to be resurrected again one day, that the human body should not be trivialized, that there's something special about it, that you were made in the image of God, not in the image of the Big Whopper.

00:27:29.000 That's right.

00:27:30.000 But as we become less Christian, I'm telling you, cannibalism very well might pop up. 0.65

00:27:35.000 Again, we could all joke about it.

00:27:37.000 The sarcasm actually is laced in, I want a liberal to come on and tell me, by the liberal standard, What is the argument against cannibalism?

00:27:47.000 We might need to have our first liberal on thought crime just to probe this question.

00:27:51.000 We can't say more about it, but we should find that guy who was at University of Tennessee today.

00:27:58.000 Oh no, you can't spoil it.

00:28:00.000 I won't spoil anything.

00:28:02.000 That was off.

00:28:04.000 Everyone should subscribe to all of our appropriate channels.

00:28:06.000 Jack, you are going to love this one.

00:28:10.000 This one has the opportunity.

00:28:11.000 I don't want to be too...

00:28:13.000 Has the opportunity to be one of those viral things I've ever done.

00:28:16.000 That's all I'm going to say.

00:28:17.000 I think it will.

00:28:18.000 Okay.

00:28:19.000 We'll need to do that, Charlie.

00:28:21.000 Hey, Blake, based on what you heard, it's pretty juicy, right?

00:28:24.000 It sounded pretty amazing to me.

00:28:26.000 All right.

00:28:26.000 I've got to say that.

00:28:27.000 Next segment.

00:28:28.000 All right.

00:28:28.000 Next thing.

00:28:29.000 This is kind of a wild card one, but this is going viral this week.

00:28:34.000 And it's kind of a funny thing.

00:28:36.000 So, you know...

00:28:38.000 You know Curtis Yarvin?

00:28:39.000 We've had him on the show before.

00:28:40.000 One of his fun ideas is he said, like, you know, we're going to punish criminals and we're going to punish them by putting them in virtual reality prison.

00:28:47.000 So we have much better virtual reality tech now.

00:28:50.000 We get those goggles you can put on and you can go to the Facebook Magical World and hang out with people.

00:28:55.000 Do people do that, by the way?

00:28:56.000 Is that, like, a thing?

00:28:56.000 It is a thing.

00:28:57.000 I've never done it.

00:28:58.000 How is that, like, different than, like, Age of...

00:29:01.000 I mean, whatever the thing is.

00:29:02.000 Well, it wasn't super successful, but...

00:29:04.000 What was that game I used to play?

00:29:06.000 Age of Empires?

00:29:06.000 No.

00:29:07.000 No, I'll think of it.

00:29:09.000 Keep talking.

00:29:10.000 But anyway, so it's more and more advanced.

00:29:13.000 Oh, RuneScape.

00:29:14.000 Is that still around?

00:29:15.000 Yes, it is.

00:29:16.000 Yes, it is.

00:29:17.000 It will never die.

00:29:18.000 I'm sorry.

00:29:18.000 Keep interrupting.

00:29:19.000 I somewhat remember RuneScape.

00:29:20.000 There's still people who play World of Warcraft like eight hours, you know, 40 hours a week.

00:29:23.000 No, I know that still exists.

00:29:24.000 Well, the original, you go way, way back.

00:29:26.000 You go to the original Warcraft and Starcraft.

00:29:29.000 Well, those are strategy.

00:29:31.000 But anyway, so this is all teeing up that...

00:29:34.000 There are prisons in, I believe, in California.

00:29:38.000 They have a thing in the Central California Women's Facility they're doing this. 1.00

00:29:42.000 But there's reports now.

00:29:43.000 They have prisons where they're giving inmates access to virtual reality gear and they can use this to go outside the prison, basically.

00:29:54.000 And according to the reporting that is coming out, offenses by these prisoners have gone down 96%.

00:30:01.000 And so...

00:30:04.000 Is virtual reality prison our future?

00:30:08.000 And if it is, is that a good thing?

00:30:10.000 Because it seems like they might be having a good time with it.

00:30:12.000 I don't know that we want to reward Anders Breivik or the cannibal guy with lifelong fun times in VR for being bad dudes.

00:30:22.000 But if it helps with rehabilitation, it's a choice one way or the other.

00:30:29.000 Would you go to VR prison?

00:30:31.000 What is actually on their VR? So the description in this article that I'm looking at in The Guardian that came out a few days ago is this woman is in a women's prison in California, but it says two and a half years into a five-year prison sentence, this woman was about... 0.82

00:30:48.000 Samantha Tovar was about to see Thailand for the first time.

00:30:52.000 And so she puts it on and she basically goes on a virtual tour of stuff in Thailand.

00:30:56.000 Let me just pause.

00:30:57.000 I've used these virtual reality things.

00:30:58.000 I don't think they're that good.

00:30:59.000 I mean, have you seen?

00:31:01.000 The tech is not there yet.

00:31:02.000 AI might make it better.

00:31:04.000 I've used them once and it was at the Hillary Clinton's DNC in 2016. Facebook was there.

00:31:09.000 So it's been a while.

00:31:09.000 Yeah, so it's gotten better since then.

00:31:12.000 Nine years ago.

00:31:13.000 Have you seen the sporting events?

00:31:15.000 Are they any good?

00:31:16.000 So now they've got this...

00:31:18.000 Whole thing where you can put on the VR and you're like on the sidelines sitting in the stadium.

00:31:22.000 I know, but is it any good?

00:31:23.000 Yeah, it looks really nice.

00:31:24.000 Is it really?

00:31:25.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:31:25.000 And they've got this whole, actually, they've got this whole restaurant in California now where it's like a VR restaurant where it's like a big screen.

00:31:31.000 You're inside it and you feel like you're in the stadium.

00:31:34.000 No, that's different.

00:31:35.000 I know, but it's like the same.

00:31:36.000 I like that.

00:31:37.000 But the goggle thing bothers me.

00:31:39.000 Well, I think after a while you feel the goggle, you know, and it's like, I don't think your mind can get past the fact.

00:31:46.000 That you're wearing something that's on top of yourself.

00:31:49.000 I, at least, here's where, somebody once told me recently, they said, my relative, my uncle or whatever, works all day, gets home, and just puts on his goggles and spends four hours with them.

00:32:01.000 I think that's like deeply unhealthy.

00:32:02.000 Oh, I started, this started coming up because I started watching this.

00:32:06.000 There's some weirdo, I don't, I want to get off the trans thing, but there's like a, the furry community has all moved onto VR. Oh dear. 1.00

00:32:14.000 Oh really?

00:32:15.000 I saw this, and it's creepy.

00:32:17.000 There has to be a pipeline from people who are furries to the cannibal community. 0.99

00:32:21.000 If you think you're a tiger, if you're like, I like to pretend I'm a tiger, that tigers aren't eating vegetables.

00:32:27.000 That's what they're doing.

00:32:28.000 I think that's exactly right. 0.99

00:32:30.000 So we should put all mentally ill people... 1.00

00:32:32.000 I think it's... 1.00

00:32:33.000 Let's talk about...

00:32:34.000 Forget jail.

00:32:35.000 Mentally ill people should all be on VR. Doing mentally ill stuff. 1.00

00:32:39.000 Well, that gets back to the bigger thing. 0.99

00:32:41.000 Well, this guy's a cannibal fetishist.

00:32:43.000 Would it be okay to make an extremely detailed VR simulation of him eating those kids?

00:32:49.000 Probably not.

00:32:51.000 I guess the question is, what is the purpose of prison?

00:32:54.000 Is it to punish or to...

00:32:56.000 Well, the truth is, it's kind of all of this.

00:32:58.000 It's partly to punish.

00:33:00.000 It's partly to rehabilitate.

00:33:01.000 It's partly just to protect the public from future crimes.

00:33:03.000 Yeah, I mean, so if it's all about protection, prison is such a joke.

00:33:06.000 Now, these prisoners get video games, like, all day long.

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00:34:25.000 But Bannon said his experience wasn't that good, Jack.

00:34:28.000 I don't think he had video games and sports.

00:34:31.000 So I don't know.

00:34:32.000 Every prison is different, right, Jack?

00:34:34.000 I know.

00:34:34.000 I mean...

00:34:34.000 If you did have video games, I don't think you'd be playing them.

00:34:38.000 I mean, look, you know, it also depends on where you're at.

00:34:40.000 There's different places.

00:34:42.000 Peter Navarro, Dr. Navarro was in sort of a work camp situation.

00:34:47.000 It depends on who you're in with.

00:34:49.000 I mean, look, prison is prison.

00:34:50.000 Like, I'm not going to say that it's not, you know, something that it isn't, right?

00:34:56.000 You know, it's not this...

00:35:01.000 And coddled collegiate atmosphere or something like that, like a community college or a dorm or something.

00:35:06.000 But the idea, though, is that there's way too much.

00:35:10.000 Look, I'll talk about what I know about.

00:35:12.000 So when I served a year at Guantanamo Bay, and that's based off of the Federal Correctional Institutes, and we had some areas there where they had apartments with kitchens.

00:35:25.000 No, that was for, like, extremely good behavior.

00:35:28.000 But, yeah, you could have, like, an apartment and a kitchen.

00:35:30.000 You could, like, cook your own food.

00:35:32.000 Like, a single apartment.

00:35:33.000 And you could, like, walk around even.

00:35:34.000 It was amazing.

00:35:36.000 So, Blake, are you in favor of VR headsets for problem children?

00:35:40.000 Man, it's going...

00:35:42.000 I'm not entirely sure.

00:35:43.000 So, for example, I've never used a VR headset for...

00:35:48.000 I've played video games, even though I know you.

00:35:50.000 You don't care for them.

00:35:51.000 I don't.

00:35:51.000 I won't play them with a headset, because to me, there's something fundamentally off about being totally dead to the world that way.

00:35:59.000 You're jumping fully into it, and you're disengaging from reality.

00:36:03.000 To me, that is a step up from just like, oh, I'm holding a controller on the couch.

00:36:08.000 Very different.

00:36:10.000 But it's going to be a bigger and bigger question, because the tech for this is only going to get better overall.

00:36:15.000 And as one of you said, AI is going to increase its potential a lot, because you can use that to auto-fill in all the details in it.

00:36:23.000 So it's going to get more and more realistic, and there's going to be people who spend more and more of their time in it.

00:36:28.000 And I guess I have to say, it feels like this is probably one of the best use cases for it, is someone in prison.

00:36:38.000 It has been pointed out that prison can be bad enough.

00:36:41.000 It makes a lot of people worse. 0.76

00:36:42.000 They kind of go nuts there.

00:36:44.000 And if you can use VR to make them relatively more normal or more sedate, it's probably not the worst use case for it.

00:36:51.000 And it might even be cheaper.

00:36:52.000 Is it immoral to basically in the water supply to put estrogenic material in a men's prison?

00:37:03.000 It feels like it probably would be yet.

00:37:06.000 I mean, it would make them less violent.

00:37:08.000 It would make them more compliant.

00:37:09.000 It would make them, like, less likely to kill each other.

00:37:13.000 I'm more old-fashioned.

00:37:14.000 I feel like if someone has done a crime where you think that's worth doing to them, you should just snip, snip.

00:37:19.000 So, let's put the estrogen example aside.

00:37:22.000 Should we, if a prisoner wants muscle relaxers on a daily basis, should we give them that?

00:37:29.000 For the purposes of...

00:37:31.000 I mean, how is it different than a VR headset?

00:37:35.000 Hmm.

00:37:36.000 I'm not sure.

00:37:39.000 As you say, it's like, what do we use prison for?

00:37:41.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:37:42.000 I mean, if the goal is just to protect the public and, you know, they're not learning helpful skills, just give them a bunch of valiums and muscle relaxers.

00:37:52.000 There's some people that would want to just do that.

00:37:55.000 I mean, there's...

00:37:57.000 The problem is then you're enticing people to want to go to prison, which is the whole argument against those things in the first place.

00:38:03.000 Well, yeah, and so then all of a sudden it's like, yeah, prison's not that bad.

00:38:06.000 Yeah, prison is just really like a lifetime stint in a web cafe.

00:38:11.000 Basically every 55-year-old man that gets divorced later in life would be like, I'm just going to go to prison.

00:38:17.000 Just sell this thing out for the next 20 years.

00:38:19.000 Yeah, I mean, that's definitely...

00:38:22.000 I mean, there's a huge amount of population that exists of like homeless people and just down in the dumps people.

00:38:29.000 And then you get to the other argument is, you know, is that better than someone doing something drastic?

00:38:38.000 But that's why people got institutionalized for this stuff.

00:38:42.000 We should bring asylums back. 1.00

00:38:44.000 This whole anti-asylum movement has been a disaster.

00:38:48.000 Hotel California, reopen it.

00:38:50.000 That's the difference between institutionalization versus prison.

00:38:55.000 There's people that probably should be in that realm because that's basically what they did was just hop them up and kept them alive.

00:39:07.000 It's very funny.

00:39:08.000 One of the quotes in this Guardian article is this person who says this Ortega guy was using the headset and was viewing the Eiffel Tower, basically.

00:39:20.000 A transformative scene for Ortega was sitting around the Eiffel Tower.

00:39:23.000 You see tourists, regular people, going to and from work, he said.

00:39:27.000 And that's when it hit me.

00:39:28.000 I want to live life like that.

00:39:30.000 I deserve it.

00:39:31.000 I owe it to myself.

00:39:33.000 On the one hand, it's good he reached this realization he shouldn't do crime.

00:39:36.000 On the other hand, I feel like he was able to see people doing things like that In real life, and apparently that didn't make the impression on him.

00:39:46.000 He had to do it in the VR video game to actually experience this.

00:39:50.000 There's something very bizarre about that.

00:39:52.000 What if you used the headsets, but you had to force them to do just educational stuff, like go through museums?

00:39:58.000 Or do extremely tedious stuff.

00:40:01.000 You have to mow a lawn that the grass grows back instantly.

00:40:05.000 You have to pull weeds.

00:40:06.000 Endlessly do it.

00:40:08.000 You have to do everything, your mop vacuum.

00:40:10.000 Pull weeds.

00:40:11.000 Admittedly, if we think VR is wrong, might be not great, even if it's nice.

00:40:16.000 It's probably really wrong to use VR to torture people.

00:40:19.000 Take out the trash can every week.

00:40:21.000 I think what we should do is we should go test out the new VR stuff.

00:40:26.000 I think that's what we should do.

00:40:27.000 I think a thought crime episode, we should do that.

00:40:29.000 Thought crime in VR. That's exactly right.

00:40:33.000 I'm going to get us some good stuff.

00:40:35.000 I'm going to get all the meta stuff for us.

00:40:37.000 Oh, yeah.

00:40:37.000 That's a good idea.

00:40:38.000 We have to ride the wave of us being able to do that as long as we can.

00:40:41.000 We could have an episode where people could actually VR into the show.

00:40:45.000 I don't know if this is super popular.

00:40:46.000 Yeah, we could do a VR where the audience is there if they're all in VR things.

00:40:51.000 I mean, I don't know.

00:40:53.000 I'm not a believer that VR... I mean, I'm looking at the meta website right now, and the technology looks pretty impressive.

00:40:59.000 At the same time, I look at...

00:41:01.000 I mean, look at this.

00:41:02.000 This looks like indecipherable than a 2006 video game.

00:41:05.000 Or like a bad Pixar movie.

00:41:07.000 A lot of them are bad.

00:41:08.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:41:09.000 I bought Brooks for Christmas.

00:41:11.000 It was a couple years ago, but I bought him a meta headset, whatever it was called before that, that was the Palmer thing.

00:41:18.000 Oculus.

00:41:18.000 I bought an Oculus, and the games were so unplayable.

00:41:24.000 Oh, oh dear.

00:41:26.000 You see, if we were in VR, that wouldn't have happened.

00:41:28.000 So they, it was so unplayable, and it was just like, it was like boxy.

00:41:32.000 It looked like it was like Lily Nintendo 64. I was like, this is, why would you play a normal game?

00:41:37.000 It kind of feels like...

00:41:38.000 The Wii?

00:41:39.000 Is the Wii still around?

00:41:40.000 I mean, it exists, but it went out of production a decade ago.

00:41:44.000 Why?

00:41:44.000 The Wii was really popular!

00:41:46.000 Well, because technology advances, Charlie.

00:41:49.000 Evidently it doesn't!

00:41:49.000 Now kids have their Nintendo Switches.

00:41:51.000 Can we put this up on screen?

00:41:52.000 Can we put this screenshot I just had?

00:41:54.000 First of all, this has got all the DEI stuff all over it, but whatever.

00:41:57.000 So let's put this up.

00:41:59.000 It's called the Super Rumble.

00:42:00.000 That's not DEI. Those are just like people who aren't white. 0.97

00:42:04.000 Come on.

00:42:04.000 It's on the front page of the website.

00:42:06.000 I mean, come on.

00:42:07.000 Whatever.

00:42:08.000 You and I both know what's going on.

00:42:10.000 So it's called the Super Rumble or Super Crumble or Super Dumble.

00:42:16.000 It's probably Super Rumble.

00:42:17.000 Yeah.

00:42:18.000 Yeah, I'm trying to...

00:42:20.000 There was one game, like, the funnest game that they had on VR were the dumb ones, and there was, like, a lightsaber game.

00:42:26.000 Yeah, they did a Star Wars VR. The best thing was Nintendo Wii with that little...

00:42:30.000 No, it was like that, but you went through...

00:42:33.000 It was like Fruit Ninja, kind of, with lightsabers.

00:42:36.000 We brought church to the metaverse?

00:42:38.000 Oh, dear.

00:42:39.000 I don't want to know the theology of that church.

00:42:42.000 Guarantee you it's a little shaky.

00:42:44.000 Yeah, you know.

00:42:48.000 And when Jesus said, you know, I am the vine, he meant the vines that were on Twitter back in the day.

00:42:54.000 I do think that VR is cool for things where you can't be somewhere.

00:42:58.000 So, for example, if you're across the world or across the country and you're really old and you can't get to your kid's baptism or some play, recital or something, the future of that is grandpa can put on a headset and feel like he's there.

00:43:13.000 I think that's cool.

00:43:15.000 I just don't think we're there yet, right?

00:43:16.000 Like, that doesn't exist.

00:43:18.000 I think they were trying to sell that.

00:43:20.000 They were trying to sell that on TV. I think it was a commercial.

00:43:23.000 I'm not a believer yet in the technology, so we'll see what happens.

00:43:27.000 All right, next topic.

00:43:28.000 All right.

00:43:29.000 Wait, what is our next topic? 0.99

00:43:30.000 Crap, I just forgot. 0.99

00:43:32.000 Save me, Angelo. 0.99

00:43:32.000 What was our next topic? 0.99

00:43:34.000 No, no, no.

00:43:34.000 There was Daylight Savings, but there was another one before.

00:43:36.000 Oh, Love is Blind.

00:43:37.000 We wanted to revisit that.

00:43:38.000 No, this is an important one.

00:43:40.000 First of all, I have to really plead ignorance.

00:43:43.000 Do people watch this?

00:43:45.000 Millions of people watch it.

00:43:46.000 This is incredibly popular.

00:43:47.000 With goggles on.

00:43:49.000 I don't know about goggles.

00:43:50.000 Why would they not watch it with VR on?

00:43:53.000 I mean, VR goggles are expensive, Charlie.

00:43:55.000 So Love is Not Blind if you have VR? Not everyone took out PPP loans.

00:43:58.000 By the way, imagine the market.

00:43:59.000 They should hire me.

00:44:00.000 It should not be called Love is Blind.

00:44:02.000 It should be called Love is VR. And they would sell like 5 million of these things.

00:44:06.000 Okay, so...

00:44:08.000 This was, just to remind people, we covered this the other day.

00:44:11.000 She says, I watched every season except this one, and I repent of my sins.

00:44:14.000 I've never even heard of this show.

00:44:15.000 My wife has been watching this.

00:44:18.000 It was the first season of this around COVID time.

00:44:20.000 I remember it.

00:44:21.000 Is this on Netflix?

00:44:23.000 I believe so, yeah.

00:44:24.000 It's on Netflix.

00:44:25.000 It's on Netflix.

00:44:26.000 How does this show work?

00:44:28.000 I can explain it.

00:44:29.000 Please.

00:44:29.000 Real simple.

00:44:30.000 You've watched it.

00:44:31.000 You have.

00:44:31.000 And I've had to watch it because I'm like, I had to watch it.

00:44:34.000 I had no choice.

00:44:36.000 I'm trying to follow the storylines.

00:44:38.000 Trying to follow the storylines.

00:44:39.000 I have to admit it.

00:44:40.000 Trash TV is like, you know, it just goes on.

00:44:42.000 We'll get there. 0.94

00:44:43.000 We're going to.

00:44:43.000 But you have two people that they are.

00:44:46.000 You have two groups of men and women and they're in separate parts of the house.

00:44:52.000 And they have to go into rooms and communicate with each other through walls so they can't see each other.

00:44:58.000 And so they have to pick a match based off of their conversations.

00:45:02.000 And so they normally talk to a handful of people before they pick the person.

00:45:06.000 So it's like a death match.

00:45:08.000 Look at this.

00:45:08.000 This looks so dystopian.

00:45:10.000 It's basically like...

00:45:11.000 Look, it's in an octagon and everything.

00:45:13.000 It's like a sick twist on...

00:45:16.000 What was that old show called?

00:45:17.000 Where it was like match game or whatever.

00:45:21.000 The one that Jeffrey Dahmer went on or whatever.

00:45:23.000 Are we back to the cannibal?

00:45:24.000 No, but he went on this thing.

00:45:26.000 How many shows about cannibals do you watch?

00:45:28.000 No, this is like a thing.

00:45:30.000 Maybe it wasn't Jeffrey Dahmer.

00:45:31.000 He's known about the furries.

00:45:33.000 He's known about Dahmer.

00:45:34.000 They're going out the cannibals. 0.95

00:45:36.000 But this happens to be a crossover.

00:45:38.000 It's like one of those sick games where you don't see the person and you have to ask questions, but they do it for like days.

00:45:44.000 And then they decide to get married right away.

00:45:46.000 So you're in the pod for a long time and you just talk to people?

00:45:50.000 So it's like a telephone call?

00:45:51.000 More or less.

00:45:52.000 Do they type?

00:45:54.000 No, it's voice.

00:45:55.000 Love is blind is the idea.

00:45:58.000 So the idea is they interact only by voice and then they build affinity with people.

00:46:03.000 They can send each other GIFs and stuff.

00:46:06.000 But they can't send each other Instagram handles or anything?

00:46:09.000 No, I don't think they have phones.

00:46:11.000 I could be wrong.

00:46:12.000 I'm going to get blasted by... 0.98

00:46:14.000 Girls. 0.98

00:46:14.000 Okay, so there is a little bit of... 0.98

00:46:16.000 I've got to give them credit.

00:46:17.000 There's some creativity here.

00:46:19.000 It's still a complete waste of time, but we're getting closer to some redemptive value.

00:46:23.000 It's interesting for the viewer because you can always tell when somebody's not going to be a good match, but they think they're a good match.

00:46:30.000 And then you waste 45 minutes watching that happen.

00:46:32.000 And then they're like, oh, yeah.

00:46:34.000 And then you're like, oh, I can't wait for them to meet because they're going to hate each other when they meet.

00:46:38.000 Of course Love's Not Blind. 1.00

00:46:39.000 Who came up with this stupid idea? 1.00

00:46:41.000 Yeah, it's extremely dumb. 1.00

00:46:42.000 Okay, but it's... 0.97

00:46:43.000 Anyway, okay.

00:46:44.000 I feel it's important to remind people.

00:46:46.000 St. Paul said you should only get married if you have the overwhelming hots for somebody.

00:46:50.000 This last season...

00:46:50.000 I agree.

00:46:51.000 Sort of Solomon.

00:46:51.000 It's better to marry than to burn.

00:46:53.000 There was a guy who, like, looked...

00:46:55.000 You just knew he wasn't going to like the girl, and he saw the girl, and he's just trying to get out of it then because he committed to marrying her.

00:47:01.000 And so after he saw her, he's like, you could just tell.

00:47:04.000 He's trying to find a way, but he spent five episodes trying to get out of it.

00:47:08.000 Yeah.

00:47:08.000 Okay, so they talk, and then they commit to marriage.

00:47:16.000 Oh, yeah.

00:47:22.000 So, what happens if she's like a horse? 1.00

00:47:24.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:47:24.000 The guy showed up and he's like, I don't know if I really...

00:47:27.000 Like, below my standards.

00:47:28.000 And then he's trying to get out of it from that point.

00:47:30.000 Because then they have to go live together.

00:47:32.000 This is incredible.

00:47:33.000 Daisy just sent this to me.

00:47:34.000 I just want to read it quick.

00:47:35.000 They aren't supposed to talk about appearance, but one season a guy asked a girl, if hypothetically we met at a music festival, would I be able to put you on my shoulders easily?

00:47:45.000 That was smart.

00:47:46.000 But you can't ask height or weight.

00:47:49.000 You're not supposed to ask about it, or race either, I think.

00:47:51.000 You have to guess by their intonation.

00:47:53.000 Got it.

00:47:54.000 Their nasal.

00:47:55.000 So let me understand.

00:47:56.000 So then the...

00:48:01.000 The moment that we saw that went viral with liberal Becky was they never saw each other before that moment?

00:48:10.000 Do they only meet at the altar?

00:48:12.000 Do they meet in the days?

00:48:14.000 Is there a pre-meeting?

00:48:16.000 Daisy says, no, wrong.

00:48:18.000 She says, I'm typing.

00:48:19.000 So they meet one time before that?

00:48:21.000 There's a room where they meet, and I think they can propose at that exact moment.

00:48:25.000 They can meet if they get engaged.

00:48:27.000 They don't have to get engaged.

00:48:29.000 I think they just have to commit.

00:48:31.000 So the engagement allows them to meet the person they're going to marry.

00:48:34.000 Do some people call off the engagement after they meet them?

00:48:37.000 Oh, yeah.

00:48:38.000 Probably a majority.

00:48:39.000 And then they go on a trip together for a week or so.

00:48:42.000 Yeah, and they have to live together, which is also...

00:48:44.000 Yeah, of course.

00:48:45.000 So then they basically live together for a few weeks.

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00:49:50.000 So then at the altar, they decide what?

00:49:54.000 Whether to get married, I guess.

00:49:55.000 Let me understand this.

00:49:57.000 Before we get into the clip.

00:49:58.000 These two people invited their entire families on camera to have this public humiliation ritual based on something that might not happen. 0.99

00:50:08.000 They're sick! 0.95

00:50:09.000 I think they all have to meet the families. 0.79

00:50:11.000 No, but they invite them to the wedding.

00:50:13.000 That may or may not happen.

00:50:15.000 And all these people are like, yeah, we might be on camera and in front of 100 million people.

00:50:19.000 Well, a lot of these families meet them beforehand.

00:50:22.000 So during the time that they're hanging out before they get married, some of the families get overly involved.

00:50:28.000 You really know a lot about this.

00:50:30.000 A sibling will like...

00:50:31.000 I know this one specific couple because it was hilarious watching this guy see this girl and you could tell he was really into it, really into it, and they met and he's like, oh, that's not my...

00:50:42.000 I'm just amazed people still watch TV. The big picture here, which has to be brought up, is...

00:50:48.000 Are people who watch reality TV humans? 0.98

00:50:51.000 No, it's trash TV. This is 100% trash TV. We've got to get to the clip because we're crescendoing to the clip. 1.00

00:50:58.000 We're building.

00:50:59.000 It's an orchestra.

00:51:03.000 We're building.

00:51:05.000 We're flying down the trench. 1.00

00:51:06.000 I guarantee you most of our audience have never heard of this stupid thing before. 1.00

00:51:09.000 I guarantee you they have. 0.99

00:51:11.000 A lot of our audience has taken Hillsdale online courses.

00:51:14.000 We have an enlightened little...

00:51:16.000 Remnant of American society.

00:51:18.000 They're just going to read classic literature, pray the rosary.

00:51:20.000 I'm telling you right now, a little remnant.

00:51:23.000 They're studying Aristotle when half of the other audiences...

00:51:27.000 All right.

00:51:28.000 Tell us, chat, have you watched Love is Blind or at least heard of Love is Blind?

00:51:31.000 If you've ever heard of the show, email me, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:51:35.000 Can I just...

00:51:35.000 Oh my gosh.

00:51:36.000 And if so, you should be taxed.

00:51:38.000 You're going to have somebody you guys are like, never!

00:51:40.000 No, I haven't.

00:51:41.000 No, but I want to make a pitch, though, to defend the people who have.

00:51:46.000 Including myself.

00:51:46.000 That have gone on the show?

00:51:47.000 No, there's just not very much good TV left.

00:51:50.000 Netflix is a barren wasteland.

00:51:52.000 So this is great.

00:51:53.000 So we turn to this because it's awesome.

00:51:55.000 No, they're cheap.

00:51:56.000 All they do is cheap stuff.

00:51:57.000 I use Netflix.

00:51:59.000 I used it for one thing, and then it got unuseful for Seinfeld reruns.

00:52:03.000 Yeah.

00:52:03.000 I think they still have it.

00:52:05.000 I bought them all during COVID. I was like, I gotta watch them.

00:52:07.000 Hulu has Frasier now.

00:52:10.000 So I got Hulu for Frasier and Seinfeld for Netflix and everything else.

00:52:14.000 Can we just pause how awful Netflix has become last five years?

00:52:18.000 It's terrible. 1.00

00:52:19.000 You guys should cancel the subscription if you're watching this crap. 1.00

00:52:21.000 It's such a waste of... 0.99

00:52:23.000 Have you canceled it?

00:52:23.000 No.

00:52:25.000 I do fine and I like Seinfeld.

00:52:27.000 For me, by the way, I don't want people to complain about their financial situation, which I'm not.

00:52:32.000 I'm very blessed if you're paying for Netflix.

00:52:34.000 I don't pay for a single subscription service.

00:52:36.000 For the record, I also used it.

00:52:38.000 To watch the Thanksgiving football game, of which they did a terrible job promoting.

00:52:43.000 There is no way you don't have a single subscription.

00:52:45.000 I mean, I have my Powerbill, but I don't have a streaming service.

00:52:49.000 My Powerbill is not a subscription.

00:52:51.000 I don't have Spotify.

00:52:53.000 You do not have a single subscription.

00:52:57.000 Like what?

00:52:58.000 Powerbill is not a subscription.

00:53:00.000 I'm going to make you download whatever that app is.

00:53:02.000 No free ads here for that.

00:53:06.000 Do they have ads on Netflix now?

00:53:08.000 I don't have Amazon Prime.

00:53:09.000 There's an app that looks up all your subscriptions.

00:53:11.000 I don't have Spotify.

00:53:13.000 I don't have...

00:53:14.000 See, I have all of these.

00:53:15.000 I'm like, I am streaming.

00:53:17.000 I don't have any TV. I have a million subscriptions.

00:53:19.000 I don't have Microsoft.

00:53:20.000 I got Fubu.

00:53:21.000 I don't have Microsoft Gaming.

00:53:23.000 I don't have any of the video game ones.

00:53:24.000 I got Hulu.

00:53:25.000 I got Netflix.

00:53:26.000 I got Amazon.

00:53:27.000 I got YouTube TV. I've made a bunch of people a lot of money.

00:53:30.000 I'm not in Dollar Shave Club or whatever that stuff is where they send you a razor every month.

00:53:35.000 Oh, I've got Amazon, Kindle.

00:53:38.000 I don't have Kindle.

00:53:39.000 I don't have Audible.

00:53:40.000 Brooks is on Xbox.

00:53:42.000 I've got Sirius XM. I'm with Andrew.

00:53:45.000 I hate not wanting to watch a sporting event and not having it.

00:53:49.000 I... And then that's why I Peacock.

00:53:50.000 I get these emails from Peacock.

00:53:52.000 I don't care about Peacock.

00:53:53.000 But Peacock takes the Big Ten, which is now Oregon.

00:53:55.000 The whole thing's all complicated.

00:53:57.000 Prime Video.

00:53:57.000 I will say Prime Video is good.

00:54:00.000 I agree.

00:54:00.000 Prime is great.

00:54:01.000 You know why I like Prime?

00:54:01.000 I could purchase movies I want to watch.

00:54:03.000 Yeah, and you keep them forever.

00:54:04.000 The best of all is YouTube TV. YouTube TV is the best.

00:54:07.000 Yeah, YouTube TV is good.

00:54:08.000 For live TV, it has great coverage.

00:54:11.000 Okay, so...

00:54:11.000 Back to the love is blind.

00:54:12.000 I can't believe you don't have a subscription.

00:54:14.000 I don't think that's crazy.

00:54:15.000 You don't have a magazine subscription?

00:54:17.000 That's like cannibalism.

00:54:18.000 Who reads magazines anymore?

00:54:19.000 I read magazines. 0.97

00:54:19.000 Are you a cannibal? 0.97

00:54:21.000 I'm not subscribed to any online websites, which is why I always have to figure out how to get around people's paywalls.

00:54:26.000 Why do you even have an email address?

00:54:28.000 Not gaming?

00:54:28.000 What?

00:54:28.000 Why do you have an email address?

00:54:30.000 Do you always play the game?

00:54:31.000 That's a subscription.

00:54:32.000 No, it's not.

00:54:33.000 It's free?

00:54:34.000 No, it's free.

00:54:35.000 Do you have TSA pre?

00:54:36.000 Nope.

00:54:37.000 Why would I need TSA PreCheck?

00:54:39.000 I almost got him.

00:54:40.000 That one is a subscription.

00:54:42.000 Almost?

00:54:42.000 No.

00:54:42.000 I don't.

00:54:43.000 What about Uber Plus?

00:54:45.000 No.

00:54:45.000 Uber Eats.

00:54:46.000 I take Uber only for turning point times where I have to fly and get to the airport.

00:54:49.000 That's it.

00:54:50.000 Uber Eats.

00:54:51.000 I don't think I've gotten a meal delivered by Uber Eats or DoorDash since I came to Arizona.

00:54:57.000 I've been here two years.

00:54:58.000 Blake has turning point eats.

00:55:00.000 It's a lot better.

00:55:00.000 Yeah, it's way better.

00:55:01.000 This is crazy.

00:55:02.000 I can't believe this.

00:55:03.000 This is how...

00:55:04.000 This is how one amasses capital as a millennial. 0.96

00:55:07.000 They avoid the 8 million different millennial consumption taxes.

00:55:11.000 Alright, that's me.

00:55:12.000 So, speaking of the show, I'm trying to understand.

00:55:15.000 So then let's play this piece of tape.

00:55:17.000 So let me understand.

00:55:17.000 So it all culminates with liberal woman and beta male dude kind of on the altar in this incredibly viral clip.

00:55:29.000 Let's play the longer clip and keep all of us live, guys.

00:55:32.000 Let's play it.

00:55:33.000 I love you so much.

00:55:37.000 But I've always wanted a partner to be on the same wavelength.

00:55:44.000 And so today I can't.

00:55:47.000 I love you so much.

00:55:50.000 And I know I want to stay with you and keep growing our relationship if you'll let me.

00:55:57.000 We'll see.

00:56:00.000 All of America.

00:56:01.000 No, no, no.

00:56:02.000 We got to keep playing it.

00:56:02.000 No, no.

00:56:03.000 That's not even the good stuff.

00:56:03.000 There's a couple more clips.

00:56:04.000 Yeah.

00:56:05.000 By the way, I would have told her to get out of here and cash my check from Love is Blind and go away. 1.00

00:56:09.000 All of America lost total respect for this dude.

00:56:12.000 He just looked like such a dude.

00:56:13.000 Apparently, they continued to date for weeks after this.

00:56:15.000 She was like, I can't get married now.

00:56:17.000 But they kept dating, which Daisy informs us of because she's a watcher of Love is Blind.

00:56:24.000 Okay.

00:56:24.000 Okay, do we have the kicker where she's sitting around her liberal relatives in the car?

00:56:28.000 Yeah.

00:56:28.000 I asked him, too, like what his church's views are.

00:56:33.000 And he said he didn't know.

00:56:34.000 And so then I watched a sermon online.

00:56:40.000 From his church?

00:56:42.000 About, yeah, sexual identity.

00:56:43.000 Okay.

00:56:44.000 And it was traditional.

00:56:46.000 I told that to Ben.

00:56:48.000 And he doesn't really have much to say about it, you know?

00:56:53.000 I want something to think about that stuff.

00:56:55.000 Sometimes I did wonder if it was surface, fun, carefree love that we had.

00:57:02.000 Equality, religion, the vaccine. 0.98

00:57:07.000 The vaccine.

00:57:08.000 The vaccine.

00:57:09.000 Of course, the vaccine.

00:57:11.000 So, I've commented on this extensively.

00:57:13.000 The guy is at fault here for A, not standing up for himself, B, not leaving her.

00:57:18.000 Jack, I know you're an avid Love is Blind fan.

00:57:22.000 What is your take on this?

00:57:23.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:57:24.000 I don't miss an episode.

00:57:27.000 Yeah, no, I mean, look, this kind of goes back to, you know, funny enough, like, it goes back to what I was saying in the other segment, where we've just got too many people in this country that have this fried mental model that are, like, over-socialized.

00:57:41.000 People are way too invested in politics into their personal lives.

00:57:46.000 They bring these things out and they bring these things up as if it's some kind of, like, deep-seated...

00:57:53.000 Commitment to them.

00:57:53.000 And look, I certainly want people to understand what's going on in their country.

00:57:58.000 But the idea that you're going to run your entire life over what someone's views on like BLM are or some kind of like – and if you're just like some normie, that's not actually a good situation for the country, right?

00:58:13.000 Like we don't want to be so over-politicized.

00:58:15.000 We want people to be getting married and having kids and sort of going on about their life and having their quality of life be somewhat stable and living in a system that's somewhat stable.

00:58:25.000 So the fact that politics in general is so mainstreamed, it just kind of shows how bad things have gotten.

00:58:33.000 Up until this point, you know, up through the 2024 moment, the 2020 moment, obviously.

00:58:38.000 Because in a stable society, you know, people are just kind of going about their lives.

00:58:42.000 And you're not going to be mixing politics with, like, a dating show.

00:58:47.000 Go back to, what was the old, oh my gosh, the dating show on MTV back in the day, like the original dating show.

00:58:54.000 The one that Sean Duffy was on?

00:58:56.000 Singled out.

00:58:57.000 Thank you.

00:58:57.000 Singled out.

00:58:58.000 Producer Foz got me in the chat.

00:59:00.000 And, like, you would never, ever hear anyone talk about politics on a dating show in the 90s.

00:59:06.000 It literally didn't exist.

00:59:07.000 It's like, what music do you listen to?

00:59:09.000 What movies do you like?

00:59:11.000 That's awesome.

00:59:12.000 You know, and just not a thing.

00:59:15.000 Yeah, and everyone's chatting.

00:59:17.000 That's Sean Duffy and his wife actually met on The Real World, which was the original reality TV show.

00:59:24.000 Rachel Campos-Tuffy and their incredible family and obviously incredible relationship that actually started on another reality show also on MTV called The Real World. 0.84

00:59:33.000 And The Real World did start to edge into the political and religious stuff, but not so much political.

00:59:38.000 That was like the whole point, I think.

00:59:40.000 They tried to put like a bunch of...

00:59:42.000 People who are different.

00:59:43.000 Because, like, Sean Duffy's season, just because I looked him up once, was, like, they had a person in their house, like, who, because Sean Duffy was, like, conservative at the time, and then, like, they had a person who was, like, had AIDS, so he was, like, you know, because this was the early 90s, and so that was much more taboo then.

00:59:58.000 But Jack's, right, like, the old dating shows were so much more, like, fluffy and just fun and stupid, right?

01:00:05.000 And, like, just, like, you never would get that deep. 0.98

01:00:07.000 That wasn't the point.

01:00:09.000 The Real World was their first real reality show.

01:00:14.000 Which really goes out the truth of this, which is the cosmic thing that's important, which is one, reality TV is actually fake, and two, people who watch reality TV should not be allowed to vote.

01:00:26.000 Sorry, Tyler.

01:00:27.000 Oh, yeah.

01:00:29.000 We're revoking it.

01:00:32.000 Now that I don't watch reality TV, yet I will continue my jihad against reality TV. There's no reality TV that is okay to you?

01:00:41.000 A decade ago, I watched a few episodes of Bar Rescue because I kind of enjoyed the part where he would explain how to run a bar correctly.

01:00:48.000 The business side of it was cool.

01:00:49.000 But then I realized it was all fake because I saw a preview for an episode.

01:00:54.000 And they were like, this bar is out of control.

01:00:57.000 And the owner was like a clearly staged shot.

01:01:01.000 She's like, why are you carrying it that way?

01:01:03.000 And he slaps a tray out of someone's hand.

01:01:06.000 I think the survival shows are fun.

01:01:09.000 I'm trying to think of the last reality TV show I've watched.

01:01:13.000 Is American Idol reality TV? I feel like that's a game show.

01:01:17.000 No, I would say no.

01:01:18.000 I don't even think The Apprentice is a reality TV. I disagree.

01:01:22.000 It's a contest show.

01:01:24.000 American Idol for four or five seasons was objectively a great show for teenagers.

01:01:29.000 American Idol was a good show the first five seasons.

01:01:31.000 It was a great show.

01:01:32.000 I think American Idol is cool.

01:01:34.000 We also had someone from our high school win.

01:01:36.000 You actually had to achieve something.

01:01:38.000 We had someone from our high school literally win.

01:01:41.000 What's her face?

01:01:42.000 I was here in Arizona.

01:01:44.000 Denny Wright says that I am a TV snob.

01:01:47.000 They are correct.

01:01:48.000 Snob is...

01:01:50.000 Almost overselling it.

01:01:51.000 I just don't watch TV. I like, even though it's a little bit fake too, Naked and Afraid and those ones, like the survival ones.

01:01:59.000 They're survival!

01:02:00.000 It's cool to watch.

01:02:02.000 What was the other one?

01:02:02.000 Are they going to die?

01:02:03.000 There's a cameraman next to them.

01:02:05.000 They're not going to let them die.

01:02:06.000 They don't let them die.

01:02:07.000 But they do lose a lot of weight.

01:02:09.000 That should be like today's fat camp.

01:02:11.000 That would be cool.

01:02:13.000 Angelo likes the gold-mining reality shows.

01:02:15.000 What are these shows?

01:02:16.000 Those are really bad.

01:02:18.000 I'm sorry, Angelo.

01:02:19.000 We're going to shame you.

01:02:19.000 Those are the ones on the History Channel where they would do Ice Road Truckers.

01:02:24.000 What was so done with Ice Road Truckers is the entire conceit of Ice Road Truckers is like, this is a super dangerous job.

01:02:30.000 The only reason to watch is, in theory, the ice could break and they would die.

01:02:35.000 But that never happens.

01:02:38.000 What's the point of all of this?

01:02:40.000 And Andrew says this, Blake, you play more video games than I watch TV, which is worse?

01:02:44.000 One, I don't think that's actually true.

01:02:46.000 And two, like, who cares?

01:02:50.000 Actually, probably watching TV is worse.

01:02:52.000 I actually think watching TV could be worse.

01:02:54.000 Yeah, like, you're just literally just there.

01:02:56.000 I think both are largely...

01:02:57.000 An inert, passive observer of everything.

01:02:58.000 I think they're both irredeemable.

01:03:00.000 What I will say is, the, uh, I think...

01:03:03.000 The CDC or whoever, when they were doing one of their obesity warnings, they were commenting on how much TV Americans watched, and they were suggesting you should be more active.

01:03:13.000 And one of their ways to suggest being more active for the truly hopeless watch 40 hours of TV a week was try playing video games instead because you at least move your hands.

01:03:23.000 I have a different take.

01:03:25.000 I think video games are worse because I think veg out TV when you're going to sleep or whatever, I think a lot of people do.

01:03:32.000 That doesn't take away as much other than your sleep, which is health concern.

01:03:36.000 Yeah, video games can have a ramp up.

01:03:38.000 Video games, you have to like go remove yourself from reality, sit in a box and be there.

01:03:44.000 And then the other thing with video games is this is like it's so lonely.

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01:04:53.000 Do you play computer games or do you play console video games?

01:04:56.000 I play some console games.

01:04:56.000 Not super often.

01:04:57.000 What?

01:04:58.000 Is Xbox still around?

01:04:59.000 It's still around.

01:05:00.000 I don't own one.

01:05:01.000 Is PlayStation still around?

01:05:02.000 PlayStation's still around, yeah.

01:05:03.000 What do you play?

01:05:03.000 So when kids say they play video games, what do they play?

01:05:06.000 Oh, that would vary a ton.

01:05:08.000 What's the most popular today?

01:05:09.000 Fortnite, probably.

01:05:10.000 What console is that in?

01:05:12.000 Those are on everything.

01:05:14.000 Nowadays, the big thing today is every game is on every system.

01:05:17.000 I play with Brooke.

01:05:18.000 Oh, because I grew up in a world where Halo was only on Xbox.

01:05:21.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:05:21.000 Only Nintendo games are like that.

01:05:23.000 And then I turned 18. I was like, this is a waste of time.

01:05:24.000 I'm going to go build something.

01:05:25.000 Well, Halo is still only on Xbox.

01:05:28.000 Really?

01:05:28.000 So that's not on PlayStation?

01:05:29.000 No, isn't that on PC now?

01:05:31.000 Well, it's maybe on PC. It's on PC. So not everything's on everything.

01:05:33.000 But can we play the Halo music?

01:05:35.000 It's really good.

01:05:36.000 Keep going.

01:05:37.000 Oh, I never played it.

01:05:39.000 Yeah, I haven't played it in 13 years.

01:05:42.000 We played Halo like it was our day job in high school.

01:05:45.000 That's how we played.

01:05:46.000 So is Call of Duty still around?

01:05:47.000 I'll play Call of Duty with Brooks.

01:05:49.000 So I play Call of Duty and I'm bad, but there's some fun games on there.

01:05:55.000 Yeah, there's so many now, and a lot of them I will deliberately avoid because they can be such an addictive time sink.

01:06:03.000 They play those paradox strategy games where you're just conquering the world, and people will play 5,000 hours of that.

01:06:10.000 I'll play with Brooks, like Madden, or a hockey game, because it's like 15 minutes, you sit down, you play a game, and you're out.

01:06:18.000 That's not Halo.

01:06:20.000 What is this?

01:06:23.000 No, play the original.

01:06:25.000 You know what I'm talking about.

01:06:26.000 Yeah, the Halo.

01:06:26.000 Yeah, seriously.

01:06:27.000 Even I know that.

01:06:28.000 By the way, the guy that wrote the Halo song is like a winger.

01:06:30.000 We talked about that once in this program.

01:06:31.000 In Vegas.

01:06:32.000 He didn't win, unfortunately.

01:06:34.000 He came in like fourth place.

01:06:35.000 The original Halo song.

01:06:37.000 Exactly right.

01:06:39.000 Okay, so what...

01:06:40.000 It's a Gregorian chant.

01:06:42.000 Martin O'Donnell.

01:06:43.000 Marty O'Donnell.

01:06:45.000 He came in like third or fourth place.

01:06:48.000 Trump's supporting Republican, by the way.

01:06:50.000 He's in Vegas.

01:06:51.000 This is good music.

01:06:54.000 You know why this is good music?

01:06:56.000 It feels like you're on a home screen.

01:06:58.000 Oh my gosh.

01:06:59.000 It feels as if you're going through settings.

01:07:01.000 It has that kind of aura.

01:07:03.000 We used to play all night long in my parents' basement.

01:07:07.000 We would sync up Xboxes and we would play what was that map?

01:07:15.000 Blood Gulch.

01:07:17.000 And I'm trying to think of the other one.

01:07:18.000 There was like Misty Mountain or something.

01:07:20.000 Oh, man.

01:07:20.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

01:07:21.000 I remember that one.

01:07:22.000 There was one called Damnation that we played.

01:07:24.000 I got to look this up.

01:07:25.000 That was incredible.

01:07:26.000 We played Capture the Flag.

01:07:26.000 People are now listing off random games.

01:07:29.000 And people are listing Age of Empires.

01:07:30.000 I do still play Age of Empires.

01:07:31.000 I'm going to tell you right now.

01:07:32.000 Which is still awesome.

01:07:33.000 I'm going to tell you right now.

01:07:34.000 Battle Creek.

01:07:35.000 Battle Creek.

01:07:35.000 Yeah, Battle Creek.

01:07:36.000 There was the big one, too.

01:07:37.000 Hang Em High was good.

01:07:38.000 Hang Em High was good.

01:07:39.000 But there was this one game.

01:07:41.000 This map, you can play on the new Halo because they have it and they just revamped it and redid all the originals.

01:07:47.000 Damnation, one flag, capture the flag.

01:07:50.000 Okay, so what is Roblox?

01:07:53.000 Roblox should be illegal.

01:07:54.000 I think it's like a platform so people can make games in it.

01:08:00.000 So is that on Xbox?

01:08:01.000 I think that's, again, it's on like everything.

01:08:03.000 A lot of kids get really into robots.

01:08:05.000 So what is the purpose of Fortnite?

01:08:07.000 What is the thesis?

01:08:10.000 Fortnite, the gimmick of it was it popularized, they call them battle royales.

01:08:14.000 And so the idea was a hundred people would be in a game at once.

01:08:17.000 Is this like the Leroy Jenkins thing?

01:08:19.000 No, that's World of Warcraft.

01:08:21.000 So this is like a hundred people would be in a game at once, which is way more like, you know, Halo, you could be like 4v4 at best, but this was, you can have a hundred people and it's called a battle royale.

01:08:29.000 So they go to only one is left.

01:08:31.000 It has other game modes they've added over time, too.

01:08:34.000 I know what makes it popular is, like, you can be, like, any character in it at this point.

01:08:39.000 So, like, you can be Spider-Man, you can be Mario, you can be, like, there's a million different characters that you can be.

01:08:45.000 Well, and now Call of Duty's doing that.

01:08:47.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:08:48.000 So, Call of Duty now, you can be a Ninja Turtle.

01:08:51.000 Great.

01:08:51.000 I just...

01:08:52.000 On Call of Duty.

01:08:54.000 That's crazy.

01:08:54.000 So, basically, my takeaway...

01:08:59.000 Is that nothing has really changed?

01:09:01.000 The same games are still basically the same popular games.

01:09:03.000 Yeah, but they're really nice now.

01:09:05.000 Dude, Charlie, I completely agree with you.

01:09:08.000 Oh, okay.

01:09:09.000 I made a point to Jack.

01:09:10.000 I've had the same thought.

01:09:11.000 Please, Jack, affirm me because I'm a stranger in the wilderness on this topic.

01:09:17.000 So my kids are kind of at the age where they're starting to get video game curious.

01:09:24.000 We don't have games in the house, but they'll like...

01:09:27.000 You know, we have like one of those smart TVs, and so they could see kind of like, you know, videos of people playing games, or they'll go through the store and look at games.

01:09:36.000 And you look at stuff, and you're like, okay, Minecraft is just a ripoff of Legos in 3D. Roblox is just a ripoff of Minecraft.

01:09:45.000 There's another one, actually Cernovich was telling me about it the other day, that his kids are into, and I looked into it, and I'm like...

01:09:51.000 This is just a ripoff of all the same games again.

01:09:54.000 And then when you go and look at the actual popular non-building things games, it's literally all the same characters that were popular in the late 80s, early 90s.

01:10:06.000 It's like, here's another Mario.

01:10:08.000 Here's another Sonic.

01:10:10.000 Here's another Ninja Turtles.

01:10:12.000 And on and on and on.

01:10:14.000 And it's like, the one...

01:10:15.000 I'll throw it out.

01:10:16.000 The only one that I've heard that's like...

01:10:18.000 Kind of new as Five Nights at Freddy's, which I'm not even going to get into right now.

01:10:22.000 But, like, the vast majority of games that you go out and see right now, like, just, you know, walking through the aisle looking, I'm like, wait a minute.

01:10:29.000 These are all the exact same games and characters that were around, like, 30 years ago.

01:10:35.000 What about...

01:10:36.000 But the only, like, they brought up the Battle Royale thing did change everything.

01:10:40.000 But other than that, there was, like, no changes.

01:10:43.000 But let me list it off.

01:10:44.000 Okay, so the most popular games of 2025. Call of Duty, I had that, and then...

01:10:48.000 I grew up.

01:10:49.000 Madden had that.

01:10:51.000 Final Fantasy VIII Rebirth, which existed.

01:10:55.000 EA Sports FC25, which I'm guessing is soccer.

01:10:59.000 And then Minecraft.

01:11:00.000 Literally nothing has...

01:11:01.000 And then Grand Theft Auto is...

01:11:04.000 GTA was huge when I was growing up.

01:11:05.000 Is that still popular?

01:11:06.000 Grand Theft Auto V is the most successful entertainment property of any kind of all time.

01:11:12.000 Well, it says Tetris is more popular.

01:11:14.000 No, they're wrong.

01:11:15.000 GTA 5 has sold, like, I think over 100 million copies.

01:11:20.000 It says 200 million here.

01:11:21.000 Oh, 200 million, yeah.

01:11:22.000 There's a new Grand Theft Auto coming out, too, that everybody's looking forward to.

01:11:25.000 One thing that's wild with this, one reason it's all the same old stuff, is it takes them...

01:11:30.000 You know how we can't do anything in America anymore because it costs 15 times as much as it used to?

01:11:34.000 Same thing with video games.

01:11:36.000 So you used to make a Mario game with a team of 20 people and it took them six months.

01:11:39.000 Which one was Grand Theft Auto V? Was that LA? Yeah, yeah.

01:11:42.000 They don't call it LA. It was like San Andreas, Los Santos.

01:11:45.000 Los Santos in the state of San Andreas.

01:11:47.000 So they have not done a new Grand Theft Auto in 12 years.

01:11:50.000 It's been a long time.

01:11:51.000 So let me ask you, have the graphics gotten better?

01:11:54.000 In 12 years?

01:11:55.000 They look the same.

01:11:57.000 A bit, but it slowed down a lot.

01:11:59.000 Like, it used to be you really could tell, you know, it goes 2D, 3D. But yeah, like, the shadow dimensions and stuff looks largely the same.

01:12:05.000 I mean, even most games that come out today, like, they're on PlayStation 5 now, most games that come out on PlayStation 5 will also still have a PlayStation 4 version.

01:12:14.000 And it's just slightly not as good.

01:12:15.000 I don't know.

01:12:16.000 Call of Duty looks a lot better than it was a few years ago.

01:12:18.000 I wouldn't know.

01:12:19.000 But I'll tell you this.

01:12:21.000 Red Dead Redemption?

01:12:23.000 Is that the...

01:12:23.000 Red Dead Redemption 2?

01:12:24.000 That came out like a decade ago.

01:12:25.000 That came out a while ago, but that is a fun game.

01:12:28.000 That's like Grand Theft Auto, but it's in the Wild West.

01:12:30.000 You're on a horse.

01:12:31.000 You're on a horse.

01:12:32.000 That's actually fun.

01:12:33.000 Brooks was playing that for a little bit.

01:12:35.000 You could just mess around and just hijack horses and stuff like that.

01:12:38.000 So the video game I went all in on was Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic.

01:12:43.000 Kotar!

01:12:43.000 Anyone else know that?

01:12:45.000 I remember that.

01:12:45.000 That was a legit...

01:12:47.000 Kotar?

01:12:47.000 Yes.

01:12:48.000 At the time, wasn't that the most expensive game ever created?

01:12:50.000 Were you light side or dark side, though?

01:12:51.000 Charlie, you were a Kotar guy?

01:12:52.000 Yeah.

01:12:53.000 Wait, one or two?

01:12:54.000 I think one.

01:12:56.000 Yeah, I tried two and I hated it.

01:12:57.000 It was definitely one.

01:12:58.000 It was definitely one.

01:12:59.000 Two was, like, rushed.

01:13:01.000 One did really well, and then two was, like, super rushed.

01:13:03.000 It was, like, kind of unfinished, and they used a different, like, developer.

01:13:06.000 So, hold on.

01:13:07.000 It was called a massively multiplayer online...

01:13:12.000 Role-playing series.

01:13:13.000 What was it?

01:13:15.000 KOTOR was just an RPG. I never played the online one.

01:13:17.000 What is an RPG? Role-playing game?

01:13:19.000 RPG is a role-playing game.

01:13:20.000 Which means you can have different directions, right?

01:13:22.000 And you level up your character, you adjust their stats.

01:13:25.000 No, but there's different paths.

01:13:26.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:13:27.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:13:28.000 And then MMORPG, massively multiplayer online role-playing games, when there's hundreds of people, thousands of people on the server.

01:13:34.000 Not interested in that.

01:13:35.000 But yes, I took the dark side.

01:13:37.000 I think Knights of the Old Republic, I think that was the most expensive game ever made when they made it.

01:13:42.000 It was supposed to be like...

01:13:43.000 You might be thinking of The Old Republic.

01:13:44.000 Just The Old Republic?

01:13:45.000 That was an MMORPG that they made.

01:13:49.000 The Old Republic was the online one.

01:13:51.000 The Tortanic, they called it.

01:13:52.000 Maybe I'm confused.

01:13:54.000 Which one is which?

01:13:55.000 So, Knights of the Old Republic was your one player.

01:13:59.000 It has a story and everything.

01:14:00.000 And then there was one called Just the Old Republic, which came out a decade later and was massively hyped.

01:14:06.000 So, Knights of the Old Republic came out in 2003, and I'm looking at images of it.

01:14:09.000 It looks as good as video games today.

01:14:12.000 That is not true.

01:14:13.000 I'm sorry, I'm just looking at images.

01:14:14.000 I think they've made that on VR. I think they've made that game on VR, maybe a cheaper version.

01:14:20.000 That was an objectively good video game.

01:14:22.000 It was good, but it...

01:14:24.000 It does not look like what they're putting out today.

01:14:25.000 I will contest that one.

01:14:28.000 The last big leap, I would say, was probably about 10 years ago.

01:14:33.000 Since then, yeah, they improved, but it's on the margins.

01:14:36.000 They're like, oh, you need to have a 4K TV to see this.

01:14:41.000 I've always wanted...

01:14:42.000 The games within the games, like on Call of Duty, if you've never played this, this is the only time I've sat and played...

01:14:51.000 Something by myself, and it was with my son, with Brooks, is the zombies thing.

01:14:57.000 That is actually creepy.

01:14:59.000 It gets to different points where if you're in a dark room and all that stuff, it creeps you out while you're doing it.

01:15:04.000 It's interesting.

01:15:05.000 Alright, really quick on daylight savings, then we gotta run.

01:15:08.000 Alright, well, we have to revisit this topic because first of all, had daylight savings time inflicted on us indirectly because we got shifted back to Pacific time.

01:15:18.000 And then, you know...

01:15:21.000 I think we should keep Arizona on Pacific time.

01:15:23.000 Yes, I agree.

01:15:24.000 Tyler and I are in complete alignment.

01:15:26.000 100%.

01:15:26.000 You feel off.

01:15:27.000 I totally agree.

01:15:29.000 I definitely feel off now that I'm three hours behind Eastern time.

01:15:32.000 I love these three hours.

01:15:33.000 It's terrible.

01:15:33.000 You know why?

01:15:34.000 Because it's 7 o'clock Eastern right now, and everyone's going to bed, and I got a couple hours to get all my thoughts organized, do some texts, do some emails, and then if I wake up at 7.30, the East Coast has already sent all their messages to me, so I'm waking up to all of their work.

01:15:47.000 It is more efficient.

01:15:49.000 But what if you had to wake up at 4 a.m., Charlie?

01:15:51.000 I'm not a traitor.

01:15:53.000 Like, I'm not a hedge fund manager.

01:15:55.000 No, but Charlie, what if, for example, you had to pre-tape your show at an early hour?

01:16:00.000 Yes, Blake, for the record, I've woken up at ungodly hours many times for 13 years, okay?

01:16:05.000 I've taken more 6 a.m.

01:16:06.000 flights than I think any person on the planet besides pilots and flight attendants.

01:16:11.000 But yes, let me just make sure I understand.

01:16:15.000 The push is to eradicate any time switch in the winter.

01:16:20.000 The push is the time switch.

01:16:23.000 We are on the switch time right now.

01:16:25.000 So this is the normal time?

01:16:26.000 No.

01:16:27.000 Normal time is in the winter.

01:16:28.000 The daylight savings time is in the summer.

01:16:29.000 Oh, no, no.

01:16:30.000 We should keep it how it is right now.

01:16:31.000 No, no.

01:16:32.000 This is where we are at war, Charlie.

01:16:35.000 Jack and I are at war with you over this.

01:16:37.000 See, what we want...

01:16:39.000 Forget the Pacific time.

01:16:40.000 What we want, though, is...

01:16:42.000 You know how beautiful it was in D.C.? D.C. is a terrible place.

01:16:44.000 It's Sodom. 0.85

01:16:45.000 It's awful.

01:16:45.000 No, it's not beautiful in D.C. You know how beautiful it was?

01:16:48.000 The sun's setting at 7.30 now.

01:16:49.000 Yeah.

01:16:50.000 It's amazing.

01:16:50.000 Everyone was happier, chipper.

01:16:53.000 Everyone was more pleasant.

01:16:54.000 Why would we not want the sun to be out longer?

01:16:57.000 Charlie, the sun is out the same amount of time.

01:16:59.000 No.

01:17:00.000 It's actually the same amount of time.

01:17:02.000 If you wake up at 5.30, it is.

01:17:03.000 If you're a farmer, which most people aren't.

01:17:07.000 Charlie, the standard time that we use was set by God.

01:17:11.000 I know the farmers don't like daylight saving because they get up early.

01:17:15.000 Okay?

01:17:17.000 Here's the thing.

01:17:18.000 Listen.

01:17:20.000 And by the way, the sun is not out the same amount of time all year.

01:17:23.000 That's not true.

01:17:24.000 But it's out the same amount of time regardless of whether we use daylight savings time or not.

01:17:27.000 No, it's not.

01:17:29.000 First of all, it's not technically true if you design your day around Eastern time, of which I do, because I have a radio show.

01:17:38.000 The sun, that's not exactly.

01:17:40.000 Charlie, the sun will be above the horizon the same amount of time, whether you are on daylight savings time or not.

01:17:46.000 No matter what Charlie Kirk does, the sun will be up the same amount of time.

01:17:50.000 You guys are technically correct.

01:17:51.000 Okay, but it gets longer throughout the year.

01:17:54.000 However, if you configure your clock back or forward a day, then you adjust your own circadian rhythm.

01:18:05.000 I like the sun in the evening.

01:18:07.000 Sun in evening.

01:18:09.000 I am team sun in evening.

01:18:11.000 Charlie, when the sun is going down in the evening is when God was telling us that we should be preparing ourselves for rest by bringing darkness to the world.

01:18:19.000 And when we engage in daylight savings time, we rebel against God.

01:18:24.000 And that is the sin of pride.

01:18:26.000 Wait, so you're trying to, just so I understand, so for eight months out of the year, we are on...

01:18:31.000 We are on daylight savings time for eight months out of the year.

01:18:37.000 Oh, okay.

01:18:38.000 I get them confused.

01:18:39.000 And it was invented?

01:18:40.000 And it didn't used to be this long time.

01:18:42.000 Communist Democrats.

01:18:43.000 See, Andrew's all confused too.

01:18:44.000 Daily Savings Time was invented by Democrats.

01:18:46.000 I don't care who invented what.

01:18:47.000 I like it.

01:18:48.000 I like it.

01:18:49.000 I like the beautiful evenings.

01:18:53.000 Charlie Kirk's going to go back in time to make sure that FDR gets elected to six terms as president to reward him.

01:18:59.000 All I know is that there's more sunlight because we change the clocks in the evening.

01:19:05.000 We need to have Huberman on about this.

01:19:07.000 He's on our side with this, right, Jeff?

01:19:09.000 Yeah, Huberman's 100% correct.

01:19:10.000 Yeah, Huberman's all screwed up on this.

01:19:12.000 Okay.

01:19:13.000 I mean, he's like, oh, you want morning sun.

01:19:15.000 You know what?

01:19:15.000 I like evening sun.

01:19:16.000 Evening sun's very good for you.

01:19:17.000 Morning sun?

01:19:18.000 And for the record, he says both are good.

01:19:19.000 Both morning and evening sun could be good for you.

01:19:23.000 But you can get evening sun no matter what.

01:19:25.000 Why wouldn't you want to go?

01:19:26.000 No, it's like the sun sets at 390. This is really basic stuff.

01:19:29.000 Why wouldn't you?

01:19:30.000 I think society...

01:19:32.000 Functions better when you can go home from work and spend time with your family.

01:19:36.000 Everyone is happier when we spring ahead.

01:19:38.000 Why would you want to go home in the dark all year long?

01:19:41.000 You can spend time with your family even if it's dark.

01:19:43.000 In the morning?

01:19:44.000 That's not true.

01:19:45.000 Some people have to have like...

01:19:47.000 To go spend time with your kids?

01:19:48.000 Most people have to work 9 to 5. And at 9 to 5, you're going to have more hours.

01:19:52.000 So you leave at dark, get home at dark.

01:19:54.000 I think that's crazy.

01:19:54.000 That's crazy.

01:19:55.000 It's crazy.

01:19:58.000 Or leave in the morning.

01:19:59.000 Who cares?

01:20:00.000 You're stressed.

01:20:00.000 You have to go to work.

01:20:01.000 Go home, spend time in your front yard or your backyard swinging in the swings with your kids from 6 to 8 p.m.

01:20:07.000 Completely agree.

01:20:08.000 And I will just note, by the way, Charlie, you are aware that the sun is going down at the same time here in Arizona regardless.

01:20:15.000 I am aware, but it changes based on your configuration.

01:20:18.000 That's what's funny.

01:20:19.000 The Arizona guys are all up and arms over it, but it actually doesn't affect them at all.

01:20:24.000 It does if you are on Eastern position time.

01:20:27.000 I have to wake up now an hour earlier because...

01:20:30.000 Because of time changing.

01:20:32.000 Yeah.

01:20:32.000 And Charlie's right, too.

01:20:34.000 You feel different.

01:20:35.000 So it's either you're going to feel one way or the other.

01:20:37.000 I'm just telling you, I've lived here my whole life.

01:20:39.000 I feel off when it's more mountain time.

01:20:42.000 I hate it.

01:20:43.000 I agree. 0.89

01:20:44.000 I hate it.

01:20:44.000 I like being three hours behind.

01:20:46.000 I see all the news of the day.

01:20:48.000 I'm processing it.

01:20:49.000 It has good incoming.

01:20:50.000 And by the way, we end the show at 11 a.m.

01:20:54.000 You know how awesome that is?

01:20:55.000 The whole day ahead of me.

01:20:57.000 Yep.

01:20:57.000 All right.

01:20:58.000 With that, everybody, keep on committing thought crimes, and I will personally lobby the president to keep it lighter later.

01:21:04.000 Reject.

01:21:05.000 Talk to you soon.

01:21:06.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

01:21:07.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - March 15, 2025

THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 76 — Cannibal Democrats? Subscription Services? VR Prisons?

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