The Charlie Kirk Show - March 22, 2025


THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 77 — Can Islam and the West Co-Exist?


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In this episode, the gang talks about the Muslim holy month of Ramadan and the impact it has on our understanding of the Islamic calendar and how it affects Western civilization. They also discuss what it means to be a Muslim in the 21st century.

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00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody.
00:00:00.000 Thought Crime Thursday, all about one topic.
00:00:05.000 One topic.
00:00:06.000 It's about Islam. 0.50
00:00:08.000 It's all about whether or not Islam is compatible with Western civilization. 1.00
00:00:13.000 I think you'll really enjoy this conversation.
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00:00:22.000 It's a great episode.
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00:01:32.000 Okay, everybody.
00:01:33.000 It is Thought Crime Thursday.
00:01:35.000 Welcome in.
00:01:35.000 We have the gang.
00:01:36.000 We have Blake.
00:01:37.000 We have Tyler.
00:01:38.000 We have Jack.
00:01:39.000 And as I should say is, Anshallah!
00:01:42.000 Happy Ramadan!
00:01:44.000 Wait, we don't honor that around here.
00:01:46.000 And we never will.
00:01:49.000 Blake. What is Ramadan?
00:01:52.000 Ramadan is the holy month in the Islamic calendar.
00:01:56.000 You can't say a specific time it is because they use a full lunar calendar in Islam, which is a bit shorter than the Gregorian calendar.
00:02:04.000 So Ramadan was in, I want to say, July or June a decade ago.
00:02:08.000 It's worked its way all the way back to March.
00:02:10.000 I think it moves by like a couple weeks a year or so.
00:02:14.000 And so it'll soon be in winter.
00:02:16.000 Those will be very chill Ramadans because during Ramadan... 0.95
00:02:18.000 If you're a devout Muslim, you cannot eat and you cannot drink anything, even water, while the sun is up. 1.00
00:02:25.000 While the sun is up.
00:02:26.000 And I think...
00:02:28.000 So it gets harder.
00:02:29.000 It's a harder Ramadan in March than it would be in November.
00:02:32.000 Yeah, in the Northern Hemisphere, of course.
00:02:34.000 Yes. But there's been cases, remember when Enes Kanter and some other Muslim basketball players, they literally didn't eat all day.
00:02:45.000 And then they had to, like, try to eat and drink stuff right before the basketball game.
00:02:47.000 Yep, exactly.
00:02:48.000 It can get really crazy.
00:02:50.000 Obviously, it can get really extreme if you're one of the, as we'll be discussing soon, one of the many Muslims who've moved to, like, for example, Sweden, high up there near the Arctic Circle. 0.88
00:03:01.000 You can get to where your day, you know, when it was in summer, for example, you'll be having a Ramadan fast that's, you know, 18, 19, 20 hours long.
00:03:09.000 If it goes full 24 hours, the Islamic law is you follow Mecca times. 0.93
00:03:14.000 So does that mean that as it keeps moving towards winter that we're going to see more Muslims move northern? 1.00
00:03:20.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:03:20.000 Now you'll have a Ramadan fast that's like, you know, freaking three hours.
00:03:25.000 So Alaska's going to get, like, conquered by the Muslims. 1.00
00:03:27.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:03:27.000 Just go chill out.
00:03:27.000 Because they can eat all day.
00:03:28.000 Chill out in, you know, Fairbanks.
00:03:31.000 This came up for me when we were at Guantanamo.
00:03:35.000 So the detainees, you know, we had to obviously observe Ramadan when they were, you know, when they were being held.
00:03:43.000 And so, yeah, that's closer to the equator rather than further away.
00:03:46.000 But it was also like, yeah, off of Mecca time, as you say.
00:03:50.000 Blake, and then also it was that you couldn't, basically you couldn't, you know, you had to sort of like leave them alone completely.
00:03:57.000 I can't get into it too much, but you had to sort of leave them alone until after night or after sunset.
00:04:03.000 So basically my entire schedule flipped from, you know, diurnal to nocturnal.
00:04:10.000 So basically it meant I was working night shift all during Ramadan because everything was completely off limits in the detainee camps during Ramadan.
00:04:17.000 And so who was the prisoner at that, then, Jack?
00:04:20.000 And who was the prisoner during that month, right?
00:04:24.000 And you have to wonder, like, who's actually— Interesting question.
00:04:25.000 The question is, who actually ends up being the prisoner and who ends up being the warden?
00:04:29.000 Yeah, and you know, a funny thing about Ramadan is, so it's fasting during the day, but if you've been around some of the restaurants, you may know they tend to feast at night.
00:04:38.000 And so there have been studies indicating that even though it's a month of fasting, Oh, I believe it.
00:04:49.000 I'm no fan of Islam, which is what we're going to talk about. 1.00
00:04:52.000 But I do kind of admire religious structures that forgo the flesh.
00:04:56.000 Fasting practices I do actually have a soft spot for.
00:05:00.000 I'm not saying I have a soft spot for Islam.
00:05:02.000 I just do think that more people involving in the limitations of indulgence is generally good.
00:05:08.000 It's respectable.
00:05:08.000 You know, Charlie, there's actually a Christian tradition that is remarkably similar to what you're describing.
00:05:13.000 What, you mean Lent?
00:05:14.000 Well, Lent is...
00:05:15.000 Very important and should be embraced, but it's not as extreme as not drinking water.
00:05:21.000 You know, the Ortho Bros, though, the Ortho Bros in Great Lent, it's pretty extreme.
00:05:26.000 They go, like, full vegan in Orthodox.
00:05:28.000 And they do 47 days, so they don't take Sundays off.
00:05:32.000 And it's basically, I believe, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it's all animal products completely.
00:05:39.000 Wow. And Blake, what were you going to say?
00:05:41.000 Similar thing.
00:05:42.000 Orthodox Great Lent is no oils, no meat, no dairy.
00:05:50.000 So you're basically down.
00:05:51.000 It's almost like a diet of bread and vegetables is kind of what you're encouraged to.
00:05:55.000 And I think if you're sufficiently, if you're going hard at it, I think you're supposed to abstain from sex as well, even if you're married.
00:06:03.000 Interesting. So there's a lot of stuff that piles into that.
00:06:07.000 Oh, so Blake, you're doing Great Lent then?
00:06:09.000 Yeah, and then similarly, Catholic Lent was more intense.
00:06:12.000 The traditional Catholic Lent was no meat, all of Lent.
00:06:16.000 And they totally have gone softball on that, where it's only on Fridays.
00:06:21.000 And that used to just be the norm any Friday, all year long.
00:06:25.000 And in theory, it was like, well, you're supposed to...
00:06:28.000 That's where you kind of got people saying they give up stuff for Lent.
00:06:31.000 It was sort of you can replace the no meat thing that's universal with a choose your own adventure approach to Lent.
00:06:38.000 But I feel like that's a cop out.
00:06:41.000 You actually want things that are expected of everyone because that's what encourages people to actually do them.
00:06:46.000 And it used to be significant enough.
00:06:49.000 That's where the Filet-O-Fish came from at McDonald's.
00:06:51.000 I was raised in that kind of a culture.
00:07:06.000 I was.
00:07:07.000 No meat on Fridays.
00:07:08.000 Yeah. And there's a very rich Christian fasting tradition that, like, Wednesdays were, I think, again, some Orthodox still do this, but I think historically Wednesdays were sort of a semi-fast day.
00:07:23.000 You would have so many more fasts.
00:07:27.000 Advent is also like a fasting period, as intended to be.
00:07:31.000 There's a very rich Christian tradition.
00:07:34.000 Of fasts and abstentions throughout the year that were very strong.
00:07:38.000 LDS, you guys do fasting once a month?
00:07:40.000 Mormons are weak. 1.00
00:07:40.000 We only do once a month. 1.00
00:07:42.000 But it's a 24-hour fast?
00:07:43.000 No, it's big.
00:07:44.000 It's supposed to be 24 hours.
00:07:45.000 So it's 12 fasts a year.
00:07:46.000 Is it just food or is it water too?
00:07:48.000 It's supposed to be everything.
00:07:50.000 No drinking, no water.
00:07:51.000 See, the no water is tough for me.
00:07:52.000 That's the toughest.
00:07:53.000 For 24 hours that you can make it.
00:07:54.000 No Jell-O?
00:07:55.000 But people would always hawk the...
00:07:58.000 Like the water fountain at church?
00:07:59.000 Because it's always on Sunday.
00:08:01.000 They're like, oh, bad Mormon, drinking the water fountain. 1.00
00:08:04.000 I feel like they could just turn it off or something.
00:08:06.000 Chewing out.
00:08:07.000 Deactivate the water.
00:08:07.000 I know.
00:08:07.000 The no water thing, that's tough.
00:08:09.000 I drink an extraordinary amount of liquid, as you can tell.
00:08:12.000 I mean, I have like three gallons of fluid a day.
00:08:16.000 And no water stuff.
00:08:17.000 I've been drinking a lot lately.
00:08:18.000 It's good for you.
00:08:18.000 It gets all the toxins out.
00:08:19.000 It's great.
00:08:20.000 I'm so much happier.
00:08:21.000 Blake is some sort of camel.
00:08:22.000 Charlie, are you still doing that?
00:08:24.000 Yeah, it's amazing.
00:08:27.000 Since I started drinking more water, and obviously with this, but since the election, I've lost a lot of weight.
00:08:33.000 It's incredible.
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00:09:39.000 All respect aside, though, we've been having this discussion offline a lot lately because we've been seeing, you know, obviously there's more Muslims in the West than there ever were when we were growing up, certainly more than a century ago, and the trends indicate that will continue. 0.99
00:09:56.000 And we now kind of, so we have the open debate is, is Islam compatible with conservatism and is Islam compatible with...
00:10:05.000 Western civilization as we understand it.
00:10:08.000 And we especially are talking about this because a politician in Australia recently described Australia's approach to freedom this way.
00:10:18.000 Let's play clip 296.
00:10:20.000 There's been some that have been agitating in the parliament to...
00:10:25.000 Nullify the laws to remove them off the statute books.
00:10:28.000 Think about what kind of toxic message that would send to the New South Wales community.
00:10:32.000 And I think the advocates for those changes need to explain what do they want people to have the right to say?
00:10:38.000 What kind of racist abuse do they want to see or be able to lawfully see on the streets of Sydney?
00:10:44.000 I recognise and I've fully said from the beginning that we don't have the same freedom of speech laws that they have in the United States.
00:10:51.000 And the reason for that is that we want to hold together...
00:10:54.000 A multicultural community and have people live in peace, free from the kind of vilification and hatred that we do see around the world.
00:11:02.000 So what he's saying is we have to further chisel free speech laws so that Muslims aren't offended.
00:11:11.000 Multicultural, but they've been having those arrive in Australia far more than they were in the past.
00:11:16.000 Much larger numbers because they have immigration from India, immigration from Africa.
00:11:21.000 And it's very funny how he's like, we do this because we're multicultural, unlike the United States of America.
00:11:28.000 As if we're not multicultural.
00:11:29.000 They also have the huge Indonesian influence, which are all Muslims.
00:11:35.000 Overwhelmingly so.
00:11:37.000 We of course have that in Britain.
00:11:39.000 We have European countries considering blasphemy laws.
00:11:43.000 And part of this is Islam.
00:11:45.000 They do have a tradition of taking their blasphemy more seriously.
00:11:50.000 Which you could say is admirable, but it's also okay, guys.
00:11:52.000 We have a history of freedom of speech.
00:11:55.000 We have a history of freedom of religion.
00:11:57.000 And unfortunately for all of you, freedom of religion includes the right to say that the Prophet Muhammad was not an admirable guy.
00:12:03.000 It's the freedom to say Islam is bad. 0.97
00:12:06.000 And we have societies that are passing laws against this, and I think we're going to be having more discussion of this, because what you especially see now is...
00:12:15.000 There's a take in certain factions of conservatism in the US that, like, I'm sure Jack could describe this too, that Islam is based, basically.
00:12:27.000 I remember a few years ago there was that meme, Islam is right about women, which was done to short-circuit liberal brains because they can't criticize Islam, but you're also basically saying that Islam being anti-women is a good thing. 0.85
00:12:41.000 So it was trolling the left, but you'll just also hear people on the right say, unironically, oh, Islam is more socially conservative, they have more marriages, they're...
00:12:51.000 Better in these ways.
00:12:52.000 And I think we're going to see people say, we should align with them more overtly.
00:12:56.000 Or you might even see, some people are just going to join Islam.
00:13:00.000 They'll say, I want to join a religion that's not cucked.
00:13:03.000 Especially in the black community.
00:13:03.000 Yeah, I want a religion that's not cucked, a religion that's not gay.
00:13:07.000 I'm not going to see, I don't think a lot of white people are going to join Islam.
00:13:10.000 I don't know, that ad.
00:13:11.000 I said a lot, not some.
00:13:12.000 That ad that Charlie tweeted out was pretty gay.
00:13:16.000 It was a pretty gay ad.
00:13:18.000 So, let's play that out.
00:13:20.000 All right, let's play 293.
00:13:22.000 All right.
00:13:40.000 Okay, well, first of all, there's bacon on that burger.
00:13:43.000 Yeah, it looks like a bacon burger.
00:13:44.000 No, first of all, I'm concerned.
00:13:46.000 It definitely looks like bacon.
00:13:47.000 Maybe it's like beef bacon?
00:13:48.000 I don't know.
00:13:49.000 No, this just came up and was served to me.
00:13:51.000 This kid is obviously an actor, by the way.
00:13:52.000 No, I'm upset because for some reason I'm getting served these ads on Instagram.
00:13:58.000 What's in your algorithm?
00:13:59.000 I don't know.
00:13:59.000 My algorithm on my For You page on Instagram?
00:14:02.000 Well, think about it.
00:14:02.000 It's probably like hyper-masculine content.
00:14:04.000 What have you been looking up?
00:14:05.000 Hyper-masculine content with fast food.
00:14:09.000 I don't look at fast food.
00:14:11.000 Ramadan. Or Ramadan. 0.97
00:14:12.000 Tyler Abu Bakr.
00:14:14.000 Tyler, you have to go on a Mormon Lent for this.
00:14:16.000 Mormon Lent for Tyler.
00:14:17.000 I want a Lent for Instagram.
00:14:19.000 I want to know the algo recipe that got Tyler caught in a Canadian Ramadan. 0.99
00:14:27.000 Wait, so we've got Canadian Ramadan versus Mormon Lent here. 0.83
00:14:32.000 I was so offended because it was just Canadian. 1.00
00:14:34.000 I didn't care about the rest of it.
00:14:36.000 I'm like, I don't want to serve Canadian ads.
00:14:38.000 No, it's much deeper than that.
00:14:39.000 It's much deeper.
00:14:41.000 Was it like a Tim Hortons ad or something?
00:14:43.000 We had too many Canadians in here. 1.00
00:14:45.000 Tim Hortons is good.
00:14:47.000 Since you did bring up, you don't think we'll see people in the West convert to it?
00:14:50.000 A lot of whites.
00:14:52.000 For sure, but let's play.
00:14:53.000 This is out of the UK.
00:14:54.000 Charlie, did you say Allah?
00:14:56.000 Let's play clip 291.
00:14:59.000 I'm PC Paul.
00:15:00.000 I've been a police officer here for 16 years.
00:15:03.000 And in January, I reverted to Islam.
00:15:05.000 I started studying the Quran and I started to...
00:15:11.000 Look into Islam, and it's just such a wonderful, wonderful, peaceful religion.
00:15:17.000 In a period of five months, I've read the Koran twice.
00:15:22.000 I've not missed the prayers.
00:15:23.000 Young people, they'll come to me and they'll say, Paul, because I can say to them, are you praying?
00:15:27.000 Because I know I'm praying all the prayers.
00:15:30.000 And it's nice because they'll come and say, actually, now we're praying.
00:15:33.000 So it works together.
00:15:35.000 I can rub off on them and they will inspire me and they'll rub off on me.
00:15:39.000 I can't even understand.
00:15:41.000 People have asked me, why did you choose Islam?
00:15:46.000 And my answer is, I didn't.
00:15:48.000 I didn't choose Islam. 0.98
00:15:49.000 Allah chose me.
00:15:51.000 Allah chose me.
00:15:52.000 Okay, so is that like a BBC propaganda film or something?
00:15:54.000 I think it was an Islamic community center.
00:15:56.000 It's a few years old.
00:15:56.000 I just remembered it when we were going to do this topic.
00:15:58.000 No, this is propaganda.
00:16:00.000 I've actually seen something really frightening recently.
00:16:02.000 There are a bunch of influencers.
00:16:04.000 Again, Instagram.
00:16:06.000 It's on your algo.
00:16:08.000 I'll go through it.
00:16:09.000 There's influencers who are saying positive things about the Quran.
00:16:14.000 Oh no, that's been happening for a while.
00:16:15.000 Oh boy.
00:16:15.000 I know, but I've seen the uptick recently.
00:16:18.000 White influencers.
00:16:21.000 Islam can spread through importation or conversion.
00:16:25.000 Those are the two big ways.
00:16:27.000 And the West has primarily been taken over by importation.
00:16:30.000 Agree right, Blake?
00:16:31.000 Yeah, it's very heavily driven by immigration.
00:16:35.000 Whites are far more likely to fall victim to secularism than Islam.
00:16:40.000 On balance, yes.
00:16:41.000 Yeah, for sure.
00:16:42.000 Vast majority balance.
00:16:43.000 I don't care about this weird lunatic.
00:16:44.000 I can't understand.
00:16:46.000 But if that starts to change, I will happily adjust that statement.
00:16:51.000 What Blake said, though, is very important.
00:16:54.000 And Jack, I want you to respond to this.
00:16:57.000 Islam speaks to young men that are very displeased with a hyper-feminized culture. 0.91
00:17:03.000 And they're very upset with how feminine the American church has become.
00:17:08.000 and how female-centric it has become, which is so emotion and compassion and no more about reason and people's sensitivities.
00:17:15.000 How, Jack, do you respond to, How would you respond to that,
00:17:35.000 Jack? Well, I mean, there's a few examples that I can point to, but, you know, obviously it's just this, is that Christianity has been central to the history and to the story and the development of Western civilization, really since the days of the Roman Empire, since when Jesus literally came, almost immediately he began having an impact in his area.
00:17:59.000 Then, of course, it spread throughout.
00:18:00.000 Blake and I did a whole series on this.
00:18:02.000 Around Christmas time.
00:18:04.000 So the idea that we can just take a foreign, you know, a foreign religion and import it into the West, it would completely change who we are, completely change our system of law, completely change our institutions, it would completely change everything that makes us us. 1.00
00:18:21.000 And it would do so in the name of, oh, well, they're a little bit more masculine than us.
00:18:27.000 And I would actually put that at the fault of the current heads.
00:18:31.000 Of the church in the United States, certainly the church in the West.
00:18:36.000 Charlie, you and I have talked about this for years at this point.
00:18:39.000 But when you look at it, there's a reason that...
00:18:43.000 Actually, my friend Joshua Lysak, we did the books together, my co-author, he has a phrase for it.
00:18:48.000 He says, there's this brand of Christianity out there that's like, Jesus is my boyfriend.
00:18:53.000 And it's very feminine coded, like, oh, I'm in love with Jesus. 0.74
00:18:58.000 He's my boyfriend.
00:18:59.000 And you hear this in like a lot of music.
00:19:01.000 You hear it in a lot of sermons and homilies as well, where it's just very female coded, very emotional. 0.55
00:19:07.000 It's all touchy feely.
00:19:08.000 And you never hear anything about condemnation of sin.
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00:20:21.000 So here's my theory.
00:20:23.000 My theory is because the Father of the Godhead is the least emphasized part of the Godhead of modern Christianity.
00:20:30.000 We have churches that focus on the Holy Spirit all the time.
00:20:33.000 We have churches that focus on Jesus all the time.
00:20:36.000 You rarely hear about God the Father.
00:20:38.000 And that's because a lot of people have father wounds and it's looked at as being too patriarchal.
00:20:42.000 And I think the way that we combat Islam in the West is we speak about God the Father. 1.00
00:20:49.000 Who is rules and order and discipline and regimen.
00:20:53.000 All three, obviously, are God.
00:20:55.000 The Trinity is an incredibly complex topic that we don't have to get into today, which we all agree in the Trinitarian God.
00:21:02.000 But think about how rarely you hear about God the Father.
00:21:07.000 If you were to open a random, even in Catholicism, which I have great respect for, I would say that Jesus has definitely talked about even more than God the Father.
00:21:17.000 But the liturgy, fair enough, talks about all three.
00:21:19.000 But let's just say you open up a random Christian sermon, and it's even a good Bible-based church.
00:21:24.000 Chances are they're not going to be talking about God the Father.
00:21:27.000 And when you have a generation and a country that is seeking order, that is seeking rules, then talking about that portion of the Godhead, I think, is incredibly important.
00:21:38.000 Blake. I was thinking, as you said, about God the Father, the God of rules, also the God of judgment, a thing you're not going to see, that you'd see in medieval Christianity all the time, images of the last judgment.
00:21:51.000 Or images of just judgment in general.
00:21:54.000 That can even come, I think, through Christ.
00:21:57.000 So have you ever seen the Basilica of the Immaculate Conception in D.C.?
00:22:02.000 It's incredible.
00:22:02.000 And it's got that right behind the altar.
00:22:04.000 I now try to go every time I go in D.C. Yeah, and see if you guys can bring up the interior of that.
00:22:08.000 It's the closest thing, I think, to a European style.
00:22:11.000 My brother just got in a little bit of trouble there because he was leading a protest against the newly installed Archbishop on Bannon.
00:22:21.000 I haven't followed that story, but I'm thinking of when you look behind the altar, if you guys can even zoom into that a little bit.
00:22:28.000 I think that's Jesus, even though it kind of looks God the Father-y.
00:22:32.000 But he looks very stern.
00:22:35.000 And menacing.
00:22:36.000 And that's an element of God that there is.
00:22:39.000 That God is merciful and God is forgiving, but God is also the ultimate judge.
00:22:43.000 I once had a friend of mine in college who said, when I see that, I want to fall on my face and confess my sins because I face judgment.
00:22:56.000 That's definitely an aspect.
00:22:58.000 We have a very touchy-feely, like emotionally resonant Christianity, you know, like Jesus as your life coach. 0.99
00:23:05.000 Correct. And that appeals to a lot of people, but I don't know that it gives the level of strict order.
00:23:10.000 I completely agree.
00:23:10.000 And by the way, it's feminine is what it is.
00:23:12.000 It's because it's a young woman that doesn't want to be offended. 1.00
00:23:14.000 She's like, oh, you can't tell me anything wrong, you know, so Jesus is my buddy.
00:23:19.000 Like, actually, God is there to judge you, and God is there to tell you that you did wrong.
00:23:24.000 And they're like, oh, that drives people away from the church.
00:23:26.000 Well, actually, it didn't for 2,000 years.
00:23:28.000 What you're doing is driving people away from the church.
00:23:31.000 This whole modern, sloppy, watered-down, it's driving people to Islam is what it's doing. 1.00
00:23:36.000 The truth is, I think the great hack of Christianity is it is able to have all of those elements. 0.97
00:23:40.000 So it does have the forgiveness, loving element.
00:23:43.000 That's the beauty of the Trinity.
00:23:45.000 But you must moderate it.
00:23:46.000 As we sometimes say, it's not that things that are effeminate or feminine are bad.
00:23:52.000 Of course not.
00:23:52.000 Or that things that are...
00:23:53.000 Masculine are always good.
00:23:55.000 It is that you need things in the balance, and Christianity has historically had that balance, and it's out of alignment now.
00:24:03.000 And I think we'll see.
00:24:04.000 As long as that void is there, if the perception is that Islam is the macho religion that is demanding of you, who's to say we couldn't see?
00:24:15.000 All those guys who are in Trende, Aragua, or whatever, who currently, they join weird, bastardized versions.
00:24:21.000 They are primed for Islam. 1.00
00:24:23.000 Yeah, they're like the cult of the Saint Death and all of that.
00:24:26.000 My prediction is that Islam will find its way through Latino and black men in our hemisphere. 0.99
00:24:35.000 Young white Christian men, I don't think, are primed for it. 0.99
00:24:39.000 But young Latino men that go into gangs, they are primed for Islam. 1.00
00:24:44.000 The whole, everyone's against you.
00:24:46.000 You just want to be strong.
00:24:48.000 Join Islam.
00:24:48.000 Talk, Blake, about how Islam has found itself in this very patriarchal way in the past.
00:24:55.000 Yeah, so obviously a lot of guys end up joining in prison, for example.
00:25:00.000 And you could even say, like, in there, it might be an improvement.
00:25:02.000 Like, it's better to follow, like, the rules of praying five times a day, of fasting, that over, you know, like, total moral anarchy.
00:25:12.000 Obviously, we prefer Christianity overall, and there's a lot about Islam that, as we saw in that clip, it's like a very peaceful religion.
00:25:20.000 Well, no, because in Islam, in contrast to Christianity, Islam rigidly defines a lot more of what you're supposed to do and how you're supposed to live your life. 0.73
00:25:33.000 Rules for life.
00:25:34.000 There's a lot more explicit rules.
00:25:36.000 Christianity, it's almost like both a strength and a weakness. 1.00
00:25:38.000 The Bible doesn't... 0.97
00:25:40.000 Really get into the details of, for example, what does a majority Christian country look like?
00:25:45.000 Correct. We have vibes.
00:25:47.000 We have instructions from Paul to individual communities of believers because, you know, our scriptures stopped at the point where we were still an underground church of a few thousand people.
00:25:56.000 And we've reached the point where there are countries that have been Christian for over almost 2,000 years.
00:26:02.000 And now our problem is like, you know, we have the decaying of that.
00:26:06.000 We don't have a lot to go off of there.
00:26:08.000 Islam is different. 0.74
00:26:09.000 Islam was a war leader, Muhammad. 0.82
00:26:12.000 He unites these tribes in Arabia.
00:26:15.000 And you, from the beginning, have an Islamic society, an Islamic group that, from top to bottom, is Muslim.
00:26:23.000 And very shortly after his death, we start getting...
00:26:27.000 Pretty strict rules on what Muslims are supposed to do. 1.00
00:26:30.000 I think we've talked about before.
00:26:31.000 Are you familiar with hadiths?
00:26:33.000 The hadiths are like writings of teachings.
00:26:35.000 I think it means sayings.
00:26:37.000 And it's a set of...
00:26:38.000 They're extremely long.
00:26:39.000 They're about as long as the Talmud, I think, of things that the Prophet Muhammad said or did or how he reacted non-verbally to other people doing things.
00:26:49.000 So you'll have a hadith that is like, so-and-so did this, and Muhammad smiled and laughed when he did this, thus showing it was not bad. 0.79
00:26:56.000 And within this, you have certainly a ton of generic stuff.
00:27:00.000 You know, this is how you pray properly.
00:27:02.000 This is how you cleanse yourself properly.
00:27:04.000 Some of them are kind of funny, just because this is humorous.
00:27:08.000 The hadiths, you have to be ritually cleansed to pray. 0.99
00:27:12.000 And someone says, if I fart, does that make me unclean?
00:27:16.000 And the Prophet Muhammad said, if you don't smell it and you don't hear it, it's okay. 0.99
00:27:21.000 If you smell it or hear it, then you gotta purify yourself.
00:27:26.000 If it's silent and non-deadly, you're okay.
00:27:29.000 100% real.
00:27:30.000 But there's also serious ones.
00:27:32.000 There's no way that's real.
00:27:33.000 That is 100% real.
00:27:34.000 I have it bookmarked on my computer.
00:27:35.000 I'll look it up if you want me to.
00:27:37.000 Of course, I keep bookmarks of funny hadiths in my computer.
00:27:40.000 Of Islamic flatulence laws. 1.00
00:27:42.000 You have a full page of this.
00:27:45.000 Literally, look at me.
00:27:46.000 I'm going to show it to you just to prove that I'm not making it up.
00:27:48.000 Funny history.
00:27:49.000 I have funny hadiths.
00:27:51.000 And I've got...
00:27:53.000 Maybe you need more subscriptions and less of this.
00:27:55.000 Do you see it there?
00:27:56.000 Do you see it?
00:27:56.000 Yeah. Read it, Blake.
00:27:58.000 All right.
00:27:59.000 Okay. You're calling my bluff.
00:28:00.000 All right.
00:28:01.000 So this is from the Ablutions Wudu section of the Sunnah al-Bukhari.
00:28:08.000 Narrated Abad bin Tamim.
00:28:10.000 My uncle asked Allah's messenger, peace be upon him, about a person who imagined to have passed wind during the prayer.
00:28:17.000 Allah's apostle replied, he should not leave his prayers unless he hears sound or smells something.
00:28:24.000 So this is all about hummus that they were starting to eat.
00:28:29.000 That hummus really starts to get the GI tract on.
00:28:32.000 I can't believe you don't have Netflix and you have this.
00:28:36.000 This is a weird personless subscription.
00:28:40.000 But more seriously...
00:28:44.000 The hadiths also have guidelines, for example, on how you wage war as a Muslim.
00:28:48.000 So we have hadiths that say the most honorable thing you can do as a Muslim is to engage in jihad for Allah. 0.95
00:28:57.000 And even though I remember after 9-11, they would say, well, jihad, you can have a jihad in your heart against the sins within you.
00:29:03.000 But if you read them, and there's hundreds of these, it is very clear.
00:29:07.000 They mean actually going to war for Islam. 0.84
00:29:10.000 There's examples where a woman says, I would love to be a warrior to go on jihad. 0.89
00:29:15.000 And he says, because your faith was so great, you will get to do this.
00:29:19.000 And it actually describes she sails to a foreign land and she just drops dead when she gets there.
00:29:24.000 And that's a great thing because if you die while on jihad, that's like an auto-paradise thing in the Hadith.
00:29:30.000 So it's not that she had to fight.
00:29:31.000 It's not that she had to die fighting, but that she just died while on the jihad journey.
00:29:36.000 And they even get into, they have guidelines for how you distribute war captives, which includes like slaves, sex slaves.
00:29:43.000 Like this is all described in the Hadiths in a very literal way.
00:29:49.000 And so I like to point out to people is you'll sometimes hear Islam needs a reformation to make it more compatible with the West.
00:29:56.000 But as you would know...
00:29:58.000 The Protestant Reformation, the belief is they're taking Christianity back to its roots before stuff was layered over it from paganism and so on.
00:30:08.000 And if you do that with Islam, you're going back to what the Hadiths say. 0.98
00:30:12.000 You're going back to what is written down in our early scriptures.
00:30:15.000 And they have all of this in it.
00:30:17.000 And so to reform Islam in any other way, you actually have to say, we need it to just do the sort of... 0.99
00:30:24.000 You know, gay liberal thing that Christianity has done where they just decide to ignore all of their scriptures. 0.94
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00:31:26.000 So, I agree.
00:31:34.000 I think that there is some truth in that.
00:31:37.000 So, Jack, what then do we...
00:31:41.000 So, let me ask you a question, Jack.
00:31:43.000 If... Let me be as provocative as I can here.
00:31:47.000 Would you, if you found out that there was a Republican running as a Muslim, how would you process that? 0.67
00:31:55.000 Well, if it was a Republican running as a Muslim, I suppose, the way... 1.00
00:31:59.000 Sorry, other way around.
00:32:01.000 Yeah. They're not running.
00:32:02.000 A Muslim running as a Republican.
00:32:04.000 Yeah, as a practicing Muslim.
00:32:06.000 So the way that...
00:32:08.000 You know, it's similar to, you know, I guess the way you'd say like JFK ran as a Catholic, right?
00:32:13.000 He ran as a president as a Catholic.
00:32:17.000 Not in terms of the religion, in terms of the grammar.
00:32:22.000 That the way that you would look at it is to say, look, okay, these are the things we believe.
00:32:28.000 These are the things that we want.
00:32:29.000 These are the things that we're pushing for.
00:32:31.000 And, you know, you've got to leave it up to that.
00:32:33.000 You certainly have to leave it up to that district.
00:32:36.000 Here's the way I look at it, right?
00:32:38.000 Because this really centers around the idea of integration and assimilation when it comes to migrants, because Islam is not a Western religion. 0.79
00:32:49.000 Islam did not originate here naturally.
00:32:52.000 There's no history in Western civilization of it other than the invasions, the Turks, the Ottomans coming through the Balkan history with this. 0.85
00:33:03.000 Spain, et cetera, et cetera.
00:33:04.000 That's the history.
00:33:05.000 Barbary pirates.
00:33:06.000 You need to talk about the Houthis right now in relation to the Barbary pirates.
00:33:09.000 That's been the history of the connection.
00:33:12.000 So my question would be is, can this be done?
00:33:16.000 Can it be done compatibly with what that clip the Australian premier was talking about earlier there?
00:33:23.000 This is our system.
00:33:25.000 This is our culture.
00:33:26.000 You are coming here.
00:33:27.000 You're bringing your own values and your own culture with you.
00:33:32.000 So are you doing so in a way that actually complies with the standards and mores of our majority culture?
00:33:39.000 Or are you going to turn around like you see what happen on campus all the time?
00:33:43.000 Are you going to turn around and say that?
00:33:45.000 Our majority culture has to bend and has to accommodate and is mandated to have to twist ourselves in pretzels and turn ourselves inside out to accommodate your minority-imported culture. 1.00
00:34:00.000 So, I mean, I asked for a reason because I endorsed a friend of mine who's actually my family physician, Dr. Zutty Jasser, who's Muslim.
00:34:06.000 However, he actually speaks out more against Islam than almost any Christian will.
00:34:10.000 I mean, he will use the Hadith against... 0.69
00:34:12.000 And he's like, his argument, and we're going to have him on the show soon, is we need to actively ignore some of the more insane Mohammedan teachings, and we need a reformation. 0.80
00:34:24.000 And so, however, he's an extraordinary minority, a self-admission minority.
00:34:31.000 So I think you're right, Jack.
00:34:32.000 I think it depends.
00:34:33.000 And I got some hate.
00:34:34.000 Oh, Charlie, how dare you, as Tyler knows, endorse Zutty.
00:34:38.000 I was like, well, you know, I'm not going to apologize.
00:34:39.000 It wasn't that bad.
00:34:40.000 It wasn't that bad.
00:34:40.000 But I guess let's just talk more broadly.
00:34:44.000 Either anyone can take this.
00:34:48.000 Let's say if there is someone that's not like Zutty.
00:34:50.000 Let's say it's someone who is very religious.
00:34:56.000 Someone who's in a mom.
00:34:57.000 I can't think of it.
00:35:00.000 Someone comes in and they say, hey.
00:35:03.000 You know, we're doing this mass movement and we want to continue forward against all this stuff.
00:35:11.000 And we might agree with them on issues.
00:35:12.000 At what point do we draw the line of collaboration with Islamic fundamentalists?
00:35:18.000 It's kind of happening a little bit in Michigan right now, right?
00:35:21.000 It is.
00:35:21.000 Because you had so many that felt so detached because the left went so far into all these issues that they felt completely sidelined.
00:35:33.000 I don't know the answer.
00:35:44.000 Because in Minnesota and Michigan, this is a real community-based issue of saying, hey, how do you engage the orthodox Muslim community in some kind of way here?
00:35:56.000 So, Blake, I want your thoughts.
00:35:57.000 I mean, I'm torn.
00:35:58.000 I mean, during the election, I remember there were...
00:36:01.000 Hundreds of young Muslim men that would come up asking for selfies, loving everything.
00:36:05.000 They hated my Israel stance, but they loved the whole vibe of what we were doing.
00:36:09.000 It's hard to kind of see them individually being the problem.
00:36:16.000 I look at things more broadly.
00:36:18.000 I think that when you import a macro ideology...
00:36:22.000 You get a macro erosion of the culture, and that is irrefutable.
00:36:27.000 Yeah, I think maybe a helpful way to think of it is when we think of how we're often in agreement with conservatives in other pretty different countries, like, I mean, I'm almost thinking like conservatives in like...
00:36:42.000 Japan conservatives in India conservatives in Russia like you know people who share our values in entirely different places We should collaborate.
00:37:07.000 But big picture, we don't want America to become a Muslim country, whereas they would probably regard that as a great thing. 1.00
00:37:15.000 Let me ask you, let me interrupt you.
00:37:16.000 Is it a stated goal of Islam to take over? 0.98
00:37:19.000 It's certainly a stated goal to spread Islam, and they have a richer tradition of both outright conquest in the name of religion, and also you can get documents like the Muslim Brotherhood has put out texts that basically say Our demographic tidal wave is a way for us to expand our influence in the West. 1.00
00:37:44.000 And a notable thing that's worth knowing is there are prophecies in Islam that are expressly related to them one day conquering the West.
00:37:52.000 So this isn't just a general, you know, let's spread our religion because we love it.
00:37:56.000 It's that the Prophet Muhammad had... 1.00
00:38:00.000 Like, sort of prophecies that are recorded that, you know, one day Islam will conquer Rome.
00:38:04.000 It will conquer the Roman Empire. 0.97
00:38:06.000 And so, for them, like, if you're a devout Muslim, there's a real sense of, you know, one day we will, you know, have the crescent over the city of Rome because we'll defeat the Christians. 0.91
00:38:18.000 And, again, it's a difficult thing for us to engage with because we don't favor that outcome.
00:38:27.000 There are a lot of these guys.
00:38:28.000 Let's put up that chart with the numbers of what percentage of different European countries are going to be Muslim by 2050 if migration rates go.
00:38:37.000 Yeah, if we look at that, I think it's like Sweden's at 30% there.
00:38:42.000 They're at 30% now?
00:38:43.000 No, this is 2050 in a high migration scenario.
00:38:47.000 When Ramadan is during the winter. 0.91
00:38:48.000 There you go.
00:38:50.000 Exactly. And then you can see it's like 15% in Italy.
00:38:54.000 If Italy is 15% Muslim, that will mean the city of Rome itself will probably be 40% Muslim or something like that because they're going to cluster in the big cities. 0.99
00:39:03.000 We were just talking about Toronto the other day.
00:39:06.000 Toronto is like a quarter Chinese and is like 15% to 20% Muslim.
00:39:11.000 Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if there are 10 times as many practicing Muslims as there are practicing Christians in the city of London.
00:39:19.000 Oh, without a doubt.
00:39:21.000 Well, and so the obvious way of looking at this is that a Christian nation becomes a secular nation, then that must import new people to sustain their materialism, so then they import Islam, and then it becomes an Islamic nation. 0.62
00:39:34.000 It goes in sequences.
00:39:36.000 Yeah, and it's interesting because we haven't...
00:39:38.000 We haven't yet seen a country that goes over that tipping point of it was a Christian country and becomes a Muslim. 0.94
00:39:45.000 The UK is awfully close.
00:39:46.000 The UK is getting there.
00:39:47.000 And France is close too.
00:39:48.000 France is scarily close, but it still isn't fully there.
00:39:51.000 The closest would be...
00:39:52.000 Probably Lebanon, where it seems to have been...
00:39:55.000 Oh, Lebanon's of course... 1.00
00:39:56.000 That's like a Muslim country now. 1.00
00:39:57.000 Lebanon was...
00:39:58.000 When it was created, Lebanon was majority Christian.
00:39:59.000 It was bad.
00:40:00.000 But for...
00:40:01.000 My wife is like one-fourth Lebanese.
00:40:04.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:40:04.000 And they ended up here.
00:40:06.000 Correct. So that's not so much immigration.
00:40:08.000 That's a lot of...
00:40:09.000 The Christians left because they tended to be wealthier, so they emigrated.
00:40:12.000 And also Beirut used to be the Paris of the Middle East.
00:40:13.000 Yes. It was a gorgeous city.
00:40:15.000 And now it's the Paris of the Middle East because it's a giant slum. 1.00
00:40:17.000 It's awful.
00:40:18.000 Yeah. So that begs a broader question.
00:40:22.000 I wanted the whole episode on this.
00:40:26.000 The other stuff is there's nothing else going on.
00:40:30.000 Why is it that Islamic countries are so crummy? 1.00
00:40:35.000 Now they might say, but Dubai!
00:40:37.000 But Qatar!
00:40:38.000 So you've got to reconcile that.
00:40:39.000 So is there one that's nice that didn't happen to be built on a giant pile of money that they had to pay other people to dig up for them?
00:40:46.000 Yeah, and realistically...
00:40:48.000 Again, I'm not a defender of Islam, but I want us to go through this, because this is an important thought exercise.
00:40:56.000 So, Turkey is not great, but it's not third world.
00:41:00.000 It's probably second world, right?
00:41:02.000 Lebanon used to be, but they were Christian.
00:41:04.000 But the majority of Islamic countries are rather poor, very, very tribal, right? 1.00
00:41:10.000 Libya, Algeria, Egypt, Iraq.
00:41:13.000 And I want to flag something, which is...
00:41:15.000 I think it would have a better explanation if they were basically always that way.
00:41:20.000 But a lot of places that are not great in our Muslim countries now were once the apex of civilization.
00:41:27.000 Like Persia. 0.97
00:41:28.000 The Persian Empire ran the Middle East, was an innovative country.
00:41:32.000 There's stuff that they were hugely culturally influential.
00:41:35.000 If you were to say, what are the three great civilizations in maybe 0 AD, you'd probably say...
00:41:44.000 The Romans, the Persians, and the Chinese in terms of their ability to influence the world.
00:41:50.000 There's Persian stuff everywhere.
00:41:52.000 Persia gave us chess.
00:41:53.000 Persia gave us a lot of mathematics.
00:41:56.000 A decent number of inventions came out of Iran.
00:42:00.000 You've been to Iran?
00:42:00.000 I've been to the border.
00:42:02.000 Which one?
00:42:03.000 The Armenian.
00:42:04.000 Oh, you've been to Armenia?
00:42:04.000 I don't know you've been to Armenia.
00:42:06.000 Been to Yerevan.
00:42:07.000 It's beautiful.
00:42:07.000 I went to the Ararat region.
00:42:09.000 Oldest Christian country. 1.00
00:42:10.000 I had to see Mount Ararat.
00:42:12.000 The oldest Christian church in the world is at the base of Mount Ararat.
00:42:16.000 And that was like 200 AD, right?
00:42:19.000 Yeah. Is the ark in Armenia?
00:42:22.000 No, it's in Turkey, but the Ararat region is right on the border of Turkey, and I took a taxi out.
00:42:29.000 It was like the most dangerous thing I've ever done.
00:42:31.000 It was like the dumbest thing.
00:42:32.000 I got into Yerevan and took a taxi out to Mount Ararat.
00:42:35.000 And that's a similar thing worth flagging.
00:42:36.000 So, like, Turkey is the Turks, but if you take a DNA test, they're basically... 0.95
00:42:42.000 They're descended from the people who've been there a long time.
00:42:45.000 I say Greek, and they were really probably the people who were just always in that area.
00:42:48.000 The Greek Muslims.
00:42:49.000 Yeah, so when it was a Greek empire, when it was the Roman Empire, the Byzantine Empire, as they call it, that was a place that produced a ton of scholarship, produced a ton of innovation.
00:42:59.000 It was probably actually the most literate and advanced part of Europe, and Turkey is not. 0.97
00:43:08.000 And this is actually a thing that they've asked themselves.
00:43:13.000 And we invented the printing press in, I want to say, like 1500.
00:43:18.000 It took, I think, almost 200 years for the printing press to really take off in the Islamic world.
00:43:26.000 And it's a question that certainly has driven them berserk, like Salafism. 0.99
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00:44:35.000 So I have a question on a question.
00:44:37.000 Jack might have some thoughts on this too.
00:44:40.000 If it wasn't for the Cold War, would the Muslim diaspora be as great as it is, especially across Western Europe? 0.96
00:44:54.000 Right, so you're talking about this idea that there was a lot of Carving up of, you know, not by the way, not just the Middle East, but also Africa during the Cold War, this huge fight for, you know, which side is going to come in.
00:45:11.000 So you had the communist running, running amok all over the globe, trying to use the loot, the treasury of the Soviet Union, loot the treasury of the Russian Empire to go and expand the revolution. 0.61
00:45:22.000 And so prop up all these communist groups.
00:45:25.000 How does the West respond?
00:45:26.000 The West responds by.
00:45:27.000 Trying to prop up their own groups.
00:45:29.000 And what does this do?
00:45:30.000 This creates this diaspora. 0.81
00:45:32.000 So, of course, you see, you know, elements of this, like the revolution in Tehran.
00:45:36.000 In 1979, you see so many Persians, you know, flee because of that.
00:45:41.000 The overthrow of the Shah, you know, what, 20-some years prior, etc., etc.
00:45:47.000 You could go down the list of all the things.
00:45:49.000 That have happened between Israel and Egypt and the various wars from 1948 on that all involved the Arab world and all involved this massive, massive instability.
00:46:02.000 You know, I look at it this way.
00:46:05.000 I think that a lot of the influx of migrants in general has more to do with the legacy of World War II than anything else because it just created this So I went to Sweden and Malmo, which is one of these areas with no-go zones in 2017, and went right into the no-go zones. 1.00
00:46:28.000 There were shootings going on.
00:46:29.000 There were actually gang wars going on between the migrant gangs that were coming in in the current era, so in 2015 on, versus the migrants that had been there since the 70s.
00:46:40.000 And so you had Somali gangs fighting Arab gangs, basically.
00:46:44.000 And the local, actual native Swedes were just pretty much caught in the crossfire.
00:46:48.000 This also led to massive expanse in rape numbers, which is something that, of course, we've seen across Sweden, Germany, Ireland now.
00:46:57.000 Conor McGregor talking about it.
00:46:59.000 I guess he's running for president.
00:46:59.000 He even says, talking about this issue and what they're turning Ireland into.
00:47:03.000 So I think that it's an aspect of decolonization as much as anything else.
00:47:11.000 I think it's an aspect of the legacy of World War II.
00:47:15.000 You know, you could say if the Cold War hadn't happened, I think that a lot of things would have changed if communism wouldn't have happened.
00:47:22.000 Put it that way.
00:47:23.000 It's very, very hard to say that, you know, what could have been otherwise, though.
00:47:29.000 So what Blake is getting at, though, is what about Islam makes these once great peoples? 0.99
00:47:35.000 They obviously genetically have the brainpower to succeed.
00:47:38.000 And Persians are not dumb, right, genetically.
00:47:41.000 This is a thing that you can debate because there was like an Islamic golden age as they'll say where it seemed Islam was richer. 0.81
00:47:54.000 They mention it all the time.
00:47:55.000 But what's funny is when they were in their golden age it was some Arab Muslim rulers on top of societies that were not really Muslim yet.
00:48:03.000 Egypt was, I think, over 50% Christian.
00:48:06.000 They're not sure until when, but maybe until the 1200s or so.
00:48:11.000 Same with large groups.
00:48:12.000 I mean, the Middle East in general was maybe 25-30% Christian until World War I. And one factor that seems actually really interesting is in the Dark Ages and the Middle Ages, Christianity, we don't know exactly why this was, but they got really gung-ho that there's one sin God hates more than any other.
00:48:32.000 And it's consanguineous marriage.
00:48:34.000 You can't marry your cousins anymore.
00:48:36.000 And we have evidence of this.
00:48:38.000 A pagan king would convert to Christianity and he'd write a letter to the bishop or the pope and say, okay, I'm a Christian now.
00:48:44.000 What am I supposed to do?
00:48:46.000 And we have some of the responses that they wrote back.
00:48:48.000 And it was always kind of three things.
00:48:50.000 And they would say, observe the Sabbath.
00:48:52.000 You'd like that.
00:48:52.000 I love that.
00:48:53.000 Observe the Lenten fast.
00:48:55.000 Observe the fast.
00:48:56.000 Love that.
00:48:56.000 And... Don't marry your cousin.
00:48:58.000 You can't break any of the marriage rules.
00:49:00.000 And so the marriage rules were obviously definitely no, like marrying your nieces, your brother, sister.
00:49:05.000 Don't marry your godchildren. 1.00
00:49:07.000 That's equal level of incest. 1.00
00:49:08.000 And then the big one is don't marry your first cousins.
00:49:11.000 And sometimes they'd get stricter, your second cousin, your third cousin.
00:49:13.000 And they're just, they're insanely gung-ho about this.
00:49:17.000 They never stop talking about it.
00:49:18.000 They enforce it really hard.
00:49:20.000 And a big theory is that this actually caused sort of the...
00:49:25.000 It broke the sort of clannish systems of kinship that exist in most pre-modern societies.
00:49:32.000 You have a clan.
00:49:32.000 You marry other people in your clan.
00:49:34.000 And this one just lowers your IQ because you have a buildup of genetic dead weight.
00:49:42.000 And it also makes it so you look to other people within your clan.
00:49:47.000 You don't sort of have a group-based, more general altruism, for lack of a better term.
00:49:52.000 And some people hypothesize that this basically helped launch Western civilization on its big upward trajectory.
00:49:58.000 And if you look at the worst parts of the Muslim world, which are some of the ones that we, for whatever reason, are the most gung-ho to bring in, like Pakistanis who moved to Britain. 1.00
00:50:08.000 Other Pakistanis will tell you they're coming from the worst part of Pakistan. 0.97
00:50:12.000 And Pakistan's not a great country. 1.00
00:50:13.000 Pakistan's not a great country and they're coming from, I can't remember the name of it, but it's like one of the worst parts where they have an over 90% rate of them, for example, marrying first cousins. 1.00
00:50:23.000 Nice. If you're from a society where 90% of people marry their first cousins...
00:50:28.000 It actually lowers the genetic pool.
00:50:29.000 It lowers your genetic pool, it lowers your IQ, and it makes you backwards.
00:50:34.000 It's weird to say, but not marrying your cousins is like a technological breakthrough on par with the printing press or the steam engine.
00:50:43.000 It's the technological breakthrough of marry random people you're not related to.
00:50:48.000 And isn't that also one of the reasons why our settlers to America were so strict about keeping family records?
00:50:55.000 That's a big driver.
00:50:56.000 There was, like, this whole, like, the family records must be really kept so that when you meet a mate, we can both look and make sure.
00:51:02.000 Yeah, yeah, because you can't break the marriage rules, man.
00:51:06.000 What's funny is this gets obscured because who we remember best are, you know, nobles.
00:51:10.000 And nobles would get exemptions from this because, you know, noble marriages were so important.
00:51:13.000 So you look at the, you know, the king of England and, yeah, he marries his cousin for some complicated reason.
00:51:20.000 But, like...
00:51:20.000 You needed the Pope to sign off on that, and the Pope was not signing off on that for, you know, a random dirt farmer in the middle of France.
00:51:28.000 And there are what?
00:51:30.000 40 Muslim majority countries?
00:51:31.000 45? 45, 50 or so.
00:51:34.000 So the richest are obviously Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and UAE.
00:51:37.000 Then Bahrain.
00:51:38.000 Bahrain, Brunei.
00:51:39.000 And then Iran.
00:51:40.000 But Iran is actually a story of a once wealthy great power that's been made super compromised because of Islam. 1.00
00:51:47.000 Yeah, and it was a much nicer country under the Shah, who was nominally Muslim, but very westernizing. 0.94
00:51:54.000 And you have a common trend of this where you'll have some of the most successful leaders in Muslim countries.
00:51:59.000 They'll say they're Muslim, they'll observe some external forms, but they're clearly... 1.00
00:52:03.000 They desire to modernize in a Western direction, and that's what the Shah would do. 0.98
00:52:08.000 And it's not super easy to say how badly...
00:52:12.000 Like, what's Iran's natural potential? 1.00
00:52:14.000 Because to some extent, we obviously sanction them a lot.
00:52:17.000 But yeah, they clearly were at the absolute apex, and they fall into being, at best, a middle-income country under many centuries of... 0.77
00:52:28.000 This faith they adopted.
00:52:31.000 So I guess the last question is an important one.
00:52:34.000 Is Islam capable of a reformation? 1.00
00:52:38.000 What I would say is I think they already had it.
00:52:41.000 So for them, for example, like the age of colonialism, you know, they were dominant for a long time.
00:52:46.000 The Ottoman Empire was a Muslim empire and they conquer half of Europe. 0.96
00:52:49.000 They look like they may conquer Rome.
00:52:50.000 And suddenly it's 1850 and they're getting their butts kicked.
00:52:54.000 The Europeans have all this technology they don't understand. 1.00
00:52:57.000 And they're whooping on them, and they're getting colonized.
00:53:00.000 And so what you get is Salafism. 0.92
00:53:02.000 So Salafism, that is the ideology of Wahhabism. 1.00
00:53:06.000 That's the ideology of Al-Qaeda.
00:53:08.000 It's the ideology of ISIS.
00:53:10.000 It's very much make Islam great again, where they say, we built up all of this medieval stuff on top of Islam. 1.00
00:53:15.000 We got away from the words of the prophet.
00:53:17.000 We need to go back to the basics and practice true Islam. 1.00
00:53:21.000 I would say that spiritually is what a Reformation would be.
00:53:26.000 Jack, final thoughts.
00:53:27.000 Islam, the West, is it compatible?
00:53:30.000 Honestly, I don't think it's compatible.
00:53:32.000 I think the West has Christianity at its core. 0.82
00:53:36.000 The West has always been majority Christian since we've had the rise of Christianity and since the advent of Western civilization as we know it today. 0.92
00:53:46.000 They're indelibly linked.
00:53:48.000 And America has always been a Christian majority nation and continues to be a Christian majority nation.
00:53:54.000 And America is at its best when our moral core is Christian. 0.99
00:53:59.000 Tyler? I'm still thinking about that white kid in Canada who's eating bacon. 0.92
00:54:04.000 And why you're getting that ad served to you.
00:54:07.000 Is that the Islamic Reformation that they'll start eating bacon? 0.98
00:54:11.000 It did really incidentally start this whole thing.
00:54:13.000 And if you're getting these ads too, you should immediately delete Instagram, I think.
00:54:17.000 I think that's what you should do.
00:54:18.000 Just knock it off.
00:54:20.000 Take a full...
00:54:22.000 Take a full Ramadan to think about it. 0.93
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