00:01:02.000His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:01:10.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:02:21.000Donald Trump thought things that you were not allowed to think.
00:02:25.000Well, he not only, Charlie, not only did he think them, but he had the even far greater audacity and criminal intent, mens rea, as we say in The Viz, to actually speak his thought crimes publicly at one point, believe it or not, from a microphone in front of the White House.
00:02:48.000And not only did he speak these unlawful opinions publicly, he even apparently shared them privately.
00:02:57.000He shared them with, you know, people that you're not allowed to discuss legal strategy with, like lawyers, right?
00:03:03.000Of course, because that's illegal now too.
00:03:05.000In fact, all of these things that he did, like cite laws and precedent and hold speeches and have opinions, those are all illegal now because we named this show, what is this, episode seven, episode eight, something?
00:03:18.000So about two months into the show here, we said we're going to call the show.
00:05:01.000Donald Trump's getting more popular since these indictments have gone down.
00:05:04.000Yeah, I mean, look, well, let's take that first part.
00:05:07.000So everything that happens to Donald Trump, and this is starting to go all the way back to 2015, every attack that is made on Donald Trump from either the establishment or from the left increases his popularity and it makes it their job harder.
00:05:21.000So it's like crazy that we're still here and that they're going to the it's like every time they keep leveling up, you know, I call it like the Wiley Coyote type stuff, right?
00:05:31.000Which is that the Wiley Coyote is trying to do something more, like more insidious every time and the Roadrunner still like outruns him.
00:05:40.000So that's kind of where we've been politically since 2015 and Donald Trump.
00:05:45.000Yeah, I mean, so Tyler, help me make sense of this.
00:05:47.000And this is a tangent while Blake finds the examples.
00:05:49.000Actually, actually, I just got it right here.
00:05:51.000Like on the same page, this is just talking about the state of Wisconsin.
00:05:55.000That same day, in response to the court decision that had prompted the Wisconsin governor to sign a certificate of final determination, the defendant, Trump, issued a tweet repeating his knowingly false claim of election fraud and demanding that the Wisconsin legislature overturn the election results.
00:06:10.000Then two paragraphs later, on January 6th, 2021, the defendant publicly repeated knowingly false claims that there had been tens of thousands of unlawful votes.
00:06:20.000January 6th, that means they're charging for something he said in his speech at the White House.
00:06:24.000Well, in his speech, but I couldn't disagree more with this.
00:06:28.000I've spent a lot of private time with President Trump.
00:07:01.000Not to interject here, but the same way that they, this is like kind of a more pertinent thing that we've seen in like real society, that speech is Not protected.
00:07:12.000And this is the case when people commit suicide, for example, is that if you talk someone into suicide or say something enough that it causes them to commit suicide, you can be held liable.
00:07:23.000So I think what their angle that they're trying to do is this is in that same vein that President Trump knows better.
00:07:40.000You know, normal people went insane doing things that, were they not, they normally wouldn't do because of well, keep in mind, they didn't so far.
00:07:50.000They currently haven't charged him with, uh like, incitement to insurrection.
00:07:55.000They do have conspiracy, if you look on the front here, conspiracy.
00:07:59.000Conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding, and that conspiracy against rights.
00:08:03.000The conspiracy against rights is the crazy one, because what they're basically saying is, by repeating all of his knowingly false claims about the election, that he's destroying people's right to vote, that people have the right to vote and have their vote be counted, and he's delegitimizing the election with his, his scheme.
00:08:24.000Uh, like you know, if you listen to someone for three months, you'll probably get a bad quote out of them.
00:08:29.000But they did get those quotes where, like he's he's, you know he's pushing Pence, for example, to go along with their idea for january 6th.
00:08:36.000When they're counting, you know, say that there's a dispute and we can't count them yet.
00:08:41.000And there's a point where he basically says, like you're too honest Mike, is what he supposedly says to Mike Pence while they're on the phone and you know they're framing this as like, Trump knew this was all a lie and was just running a really aggressive shtick of fraud because he wanted to remain president.
00:09:00.000They have to really stretch it because like, there's cases where they say that, like a person will say, like you know, we have a lot of theories but not a lot of proof yet, or whatever, and they're like whatever proves they knew it was false.
00:09:10.000I think it's much more like these people very left Arizona actually, they very strongly believe it because, but you know, they're kind of vibe readers.
00:09:18.000Trump is very much a vibe guy like yeah, he just believes the fraud.
00:09:21.000So Jack, I want, I want to get you in on here.
00:09:24.000You, you've read the indictment, what so?
00:09:27.000Like I mean, a lot of people listen to this podcast.
00:09:30.000They'll hear our rather forceful explanations of this and they might be tempted to be like oh Charlie, Jack and Blake AND Tyler, you guys are partisan actors, you're over exaggerating.
00:09:39.000But jack, even from the most sober reading of this indictment, they're criminalizing disagreement, that you can't look at an election and see something differently at one point in here in in, in.
00:09:54.000It's section 44, but it it says, uh, december 4th, after four Republican leaders I got the citation.
00:10:01.000You're gonna love this the leaders of the Pennsylvania legislator issued a public statement that the Assembly lacked the opportunity to overturn the popular vote.
00:11:26.000The point is, he's trying to follow a process.
00:11:29.000And by the way, and this is going to come up in court, he was acting on the advice counsel the entire time.
00:11:34.000And count one really stands out to me, too.
00:11:37.000I want to say that it's this conspiracy to defraud the United States.
00:11:40.000And the framing of this, they use the fraudulent over and over again.
00:11:44.000In on page 22 of this here, in section 54, they have the December 9th memorandum, which the prosecutor calls the fraudulent elector instructions.
00:11:53.000That is what they are officially labeled in court documents, where they're saying, like, this whole scheme is to like, like, they're trying to trick Mike Pence.
00:12:03.000Like, they're going to send in this sheet of paper and be like, this is a trick on him.
00:12:08.000And like, also, I mean, this was all, this was not a mystery leading up to this, though.
00:12:14.000In the indictment, they have, and then Donald Trump sent out a tweet.
00:12:20.000I mean, I just, I know that this is not the best defense, but I think just from a layman's perspective, if you're launching a conspiracy against the United States, you're not live tweeting it.
00:12:30.000You're not like, let's see what Mike does.
00:12:34.000Like, you were being honest the whole time.
00:12:37.000Well, Charlie, Charlie, they do this thing.
00:12:40.000I'll just say, because they bring it up all the time, and I'm in the clip.
00:12:44.000The January 6th hearing brought up this clip where it's Steve Bannon, it's War Room, it's January 5th, and he had this line about all hell's going to break loose.
00:13:01.000And then they play that and they juxtapose it with like the worst footage you can find of January 6th, as if Steve Bannon and me and Raheem are behind there going, Yeah, yeah, now do this, now do this, you know, prodding it all along.
00:13:15.000When if you actually go back and listen to any of those episodes of War Room where, you know, we were doing for on January 5th, on January 4th, on January 3rd, on January 2nd, et cetera, it was all about holding a debate, literally holding a debate on the floor of the Senate to discuss all of these things.
00:13:36.000A debate which, by the way, and it has to be brought up, that Mike Pence said multiple times, including Charlie, at a turning point.
00:16:56.000No, and so people forget this because we'll contrast this with Mike Pence in front of the John Deere dealership, which is him with Martha McCallum, where he's like, I'm nothing more than a glorified envelope opener, which, by the way, might be constitutionally true.
00:19:21.000I mean, honestly, I don't know the full case in chief that the government has.
00:19:26.000And, you know, I think I've said on your network many times that, you know, I don't know if taking bad advice from lawyers is a crime, but, you know, I would leave that legal process.
00:19:39.000And so that's not the best clip, but there's a much better one where he's like, you have to understand, I don't have the authority, I don't have this.
00:20:05.000His entire, there was, I'm telling you right now, all throughout the month of December, people were looking at Mike Pence around this conversation.
00:20:14.000And when he spoke, his conversation that he was having, he was like, guys, like Charlie said, I want to make clear.
00:20:24.000Well, but okay, but even though he says, in fact, his favorite line that he always said at every speech, he's like, quote from Ronald Reagan, my second favorite president behind Donald Trump.
00:20:52.000He seems like, yeah, he seems like he's just lying to people because he's like, my favorite president forever and ever, forever and ever amen.
00:21:13.000Well, I just don't think, first of all, like, what are you guys mad at Trump at Pence that he didn't do?
00:21:18.000That he didn't like decide, oh, I'm going to nullify the election.
00:21:21.000Because here's what would have happened if he'd done that, which I think is worth emphasizing.
00:21:24.000If Mike Pence had tried to say, like, we don't know who won this election and it's in dispute, probably the Joint Chiefs were going to step into the White House with a bunch of Marines and say, Donald Trump.
00:22:11.000I think Tyler makes a really important point is that Mike Pence, and if you could find the other clip of him on McCallum, he's rewriting history.
00:22:18.000He's like, I have no power, I have no this.
00:22:20.000But if that's the case, why was he setting an expectation?
00:22:25.000Because look, to an uninitiated audience, you say, oh, wow, this VP, they have all this power.
00:22:31.000What he said was, count every legal vote and throw out every illegal vote.
00:22:34.000And he didn't say I, he said we, which basically me encompasses the court system that you use to get us.
00:22:42.000The VP does, excuse me, the VP does not set what is like being individual ballots being counted.
00:22:49.000But at best, they say he can decide between two slates of electoral votes sent to him.
00:22:54.000Which I don't think, I don't think you can say, take that speech we just showed and say he was referring to legal and illegal electoral votes.
00:23:00.000Do you think Pence did himself any favors in the weeks leading up to that?
00:23:03.000I think Pence was in an impossible position.
00:23:05.000I think nothing that I think you guys would not be satisfied with anything Pence did other than essentially trying to nullify the election to throw it to Don.
00:23:17.000Because I'm calling for nullification.
00:23:19.000That is definitely what Eastman was calling.
00:23:21.000I'm not getting into the middle of this because I don't think he should go to jail, but I think that is essentially what they were saying.
00:23:26.000I'm not getting into the middle of this because I'm not making comments on this for personal reasons.
00:23:29.000But here's, let me add broader context to this.
00:23:32.000The broader context is that Mike Pence was part of the Trump campaign.
00:23:37.000So his legal advice that he was receiving was likely from the same source for the most part.
00:23:43.000The people, the infrastructure that existed there throughout the campaign and the two years, because this is what most people need to understand.
00:23:50.000The RC and the presidential campaign are effectively one, right?
00:23:55.000They raise jointly, they spend money jointly.
00:24:00.000And so the money that was spent for legal for the RC is almost synonymous with the money that was spent for legal by the president, which was almost synonymous with the money that was spent for Pence.
00:24:13.000So let's, again, I'm just giving context here.
00:24:17.000The moment Mike Pence stepped out of the White House, right, or out of the Eisenhower building, not the White House, the Eisenhower building.
00:24:26.000The moment he stepped out of his office, he did what?
00:24:30.000He got two jobs, two really important jobs.
00:24:33.000Job number one to help pay bills, Heritage Foundation.
00:24:37.000Job number two, Young America's Foundation.
00:24:42.000Donald Trump, you know, we all know, has his own sources of income.
00:24:46.000But it's important context to understand the vice president.
00:24:50.000And I think this is important because the vice president was really focused on what his after-office life was going to look like immediately following that.
00:25:00.000I don't think he was paying his own attorneys to give him advice in this moment.
00:25:06.000I think he was reliant on the system that existed, which the system is all big, one big system.
00:25:12.000The RNC, the campaign, Trump ignored a ton of his lawyers because he sided with the ones who were telling them that this scheme would work.
00:25:27.000No, well, so I'm saying what I was getting at was that Trump was getting legal advice and then he chose to reject that advice in favor of different advice.
00:25:35.000I just, I don't think he was for sure.
00:25:40.000I'm definitely not saying this is a crime.
00:25:42.000What I'm saying is I don't think like the legal advice these guys are getting is super duper relevant because it was basically choose your own adventure on your legal advice.
00:25:50.000So Jack, Jack, let me ask you this, Jack.
00:25:54.000From a political standpoint, and I want to play this piece of tape, you know, when you on War Room where you guys all look, you know, it's just, it's hilarious.
00:26:00.000You got Steve Bannon with hair down to his hip.
00:26:01.000It's just, you know, the whole thing is like, this is like three months into the whole thing, right?
00:26:06.000No, it is like you guys all look like it's like right out of Castaway.
00:26:24.000I want to just let's whatever clip it is, let's get it ready.
00:26:27.000But, Jack, is there something to this idea that Mike Pence was setting the expectation throughout the month of December, increasing the drama and playing into it?
00:27:10.000To the men and women of Turning Point USA, stay in the fight, stay in the fight for election integrity, stay in the fight to defend that all we've done.
00:27:17.000And so he's continuing on about election integrity, and then he kind of moves off onto other subjects, talking about the administration.
00:27:25.000But the point is, is that he's passing the signals that he's with you.
00:27:31.000It's kind of like what Tyler has said about Ron DeSantis and others, about two islands.
00:28:49.000And you could say, look, I stand by every word of it, and I'm sure Steve does too.
00:28:52.000I think I said something along the lines of it's going to be historic, it's going to be something that the American people have never seen before, et cetera.
00:28:59.000And again, the reason that you see, you're exactly cats and dogs living together, mass hysteria.
00:29:06.000That when you see the jump cuts in that clip, it's because when Steve is throwing out all those lines in between, he's discussing exactly what I just said.
00:29:22.000He's talking about going through the states.
00:29:24.000He's talking about these ballots in Pennsylvania that were counted that should never have been counted.
00:29:29.000He's talking about the use of the blanket at-home voting that was done in Wisconsin, et cetera, et cetera.
00:29:37.000And we were going through these different buckets.
00:29:39.000And the plan was that people like Josh Hawley, people like other senators, and a number of congressmen and women were going to get up on the process through the process of January 6th and hold this debate in front of the American people for as long as it took.
00:29:59.000Now, as we all know, history took a slightly different, slightly different path than the one that was intended.
00:30:06.000But that's what we're talking about in that clip.
00:30:09.000That's what Mike Pence was talking about on January 4th.
00:30:13.000If you play the video from that, where he says basically the exact same thing, and that's what Mike Pence was referring to.
00:30:46.000So at the end, our defense is going to be focusing on the fact that what we have now is an administration that has criminalized the free speech and advocacy of a prior administration during the time that there is a political election going on.
00:31:23.000Jack Smith noted Trump's right to free speech and to contest the election results.
00:31:28.000But what he says in this indictment is that when that did not work, the defendant, your client, pursued unlawful means of discounting legitimate votes and subverting the election results.
00:31:38.000And that that is why he is being charged here, not because of anything related to free speech.
00:31:43.000Yeah, but that's factually inaccurate because the ultimate request that Mr. Trump made to Vice President Pence was pause the vote counting, allow the states to weigh in, ultimately, and audit or recertify.
00:31:59.000And under Article 2, Section 1, Clause 2, the actual responsibility for qualifying electors is in the state legislatures.
00:32:09.000Okay, so Blake, that's the retort to your position.
00:32:55.000He announces that because of the ongoing disputes in the seven states, there are no electors that can be deemed validly appointed in those states.
00:33:04.000That means the total number of electors appointed is 454.
00:33:08.000This reading of the 12th Amendment has also been advanced by Lawrence Tribe.
00:33:13.000And then they like set shout out that they need 270, something.
00:33:17.000What you're getting at, though, is that there was this legal opinion that the vice president could decide to say no electors from Georgia.
00:33:24.000Not that I'm going to pick the Trump ones.
00:33:25.000I'm not going to open up any of the sockets.
00:33:45.000He would say either first, he will say there's a dispute, so neither counts.
00:33:49.000And then he would say Trump would win because he would have a majority of the ones where there was no dispute because they were only disputing states that Biden actually got in the final count.
00:33:59.000And then, if they protested and said, like, you can't do that, he would say, oh, if we need 270, then nobody wins and it goes to the House and the House has to vote.
00:36:04.000I think Trump authentically thought he won.
00:36:07.000And I think he was truthfully searching for a way to make himself win the election.
00:36:14.000I don't think there was additional information they were reasonably going to extract at that point that would change the outcome.
00:36:21.000And what is unfortunate about this is that I think Trump was guided along by people who were, frankly, very delusional during this period, where it would be one thing to argue that the election was very shady, focus on signature verification.
00:36:37.000And you're like, Pennsylvania law is unconstitutional.
00:36:49.000And instead, they just got very fixated on these very wild claims about tens of thousands of dead people voting.
00:36:55.000And it just, as you know, as when people are pointing this out to him, I'm not saying Trump was required to believe this or that it was a crime for him not to believe it.
00:37:04.000But I do think that in the realm of factual reality, that the people advising Trump otherwise were correct, that there were not these hundreds of thousands of obviously illegal votes.
00:37:13.000That was being pushed by delusional people who also thought there were bamboo ballots and all sorts of strange, strange things going on.
00:37:21.000It is, but I think this was talking about those votes in Pennsylvania, those votes in Wisconsin that were counted beyond the constitutional deadline, the laws that essentially allowed for, or they weren't even laws, by the way.
00:37:35.000They were orders that were sent down in Wisconsin, orders that were made unilaterally by Pennsylvania Secretary of State in contrivance of Pennsylvania state law.
00:38:19.000We actually never had our... actually go through this.
00:38:21.000Yeah, we never actually had our congressional time because the building was evacuated because of all the riot, the riot, which in some ways...
00:38:40.000You kind of deflates a little bit when you got 5,000 people that just go.
00:38:44.000But I think that's an important reality that I think it gets to the fact that the people doing this, at least the congressmen talking about this, they were not serious individuals.
00:38:52.000They were going to make a protest that they knew would fail because they wanted to like make a gesture of loyalty towards Trump and show that they were like really standing with the base, but they were not serious people.
00:39:04.000And I think that is what is unfortunate about this is a lot of people, I think Trump genuinely believed this could occur.
00:39:10.000People like Eastman genuinely believe this could occur.
00:39:13.000But I think a lot of people allowed it to be pushed along and enabled when they knew it would not end the way these people were predicting because they essentially, they were basically egging these people on for their own political gain.
00:39:27.000I don't think they were planning anything super bad, but I do think it reflected poorly on them.
00:39:34.000And they were, you know, they're kind of doing what we're accusing Pence of doing here.
00:39:38.000They were hyping people up for political gain.
00:39:41.000And it ended, in this case, it ended really, really badly in a way that I think was avoidable and bad, bad for all the issues that all of us care about.
00:39:48.000Well, here's the one, again, I'm just adding context to the political side of all this.
00:39:55.000The thing to understand is that simultaneous to all this, you had a majority of Republicans in the House of Representatives who were wanting to step up on behalf of specific states.
00:40:08.000One of the states in question would be ours in Arizona, where that became one of the first, you know, on the floor, right?
00:40:17.000When they read about it, it's alphabetical.
00:40:20.000And so, again, there's this greater context.
00:40:24.000And I think this goes into what Charlie's saying, which I think is true, which is that, and what you said too, which is that Trump believes that there were issues in the election.
00:40:33.000There are now about 50% of the population in Arizona.
00:42:41.000Donald Trump was having dinner with the executives of Fox News trying to woo him into the presidential debate in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
00:42:51.000Jack Posobic, should Donald Trump debate?
00:42:55.000So, you know, Charlie, I go back and forth on it because, look, you can sit there with this sort of political analysis, calculation, operative hat on and say, well, if he's at 50% plus in many of these early states or 30 points, 40 points up in some areas, even nationwide higher, then you say you're already at a ceiling.
00:43:17.000The rest of the candidates combined can't defeat you.
00:43:19.000So why would you go debate and give them an opportunity?
00:43:22.000Because the calculus being that you can't go up much higher, whereas you could go down and you could give them an opportunity to go up.
00:43:29.000But at the same time, Charlie, I went on Don Jr. a couple weeks ago when I was down in West Palm for 20-point action.
00:43:40.000When he goes to these debates, he just dominates, dominates the headspace, dominates the headline, dominates up there.
00:43:48.000And it was through his ability to just headshot these neocons left and right in 2015, 2016.
00:43:56.000That's a reference to the great Can't Stump the Trump videos of the time, which President Trump infamously retweeted volume four, which included the incredibly rare Pepe Trump, by the way, back when it happened.
00:44:12.000That's really what gave him his renown early on and said that he was a serious politician.
00:44:19.000And I think he'd still have been at single digits had he not done it.
00:44:22.000So I guess I would say maybe sit out the first one because I get what he's saying, that it's kind of like the JV squad, you know, it's the VP candidates, but you got to get up on that stage.
00:44:47.000I don't think you're going to win independence getting in a shouting match with Chris Christie.
00:44:51.000I don't think that you don't think that he has the ability to break out in one of these events and eat Chris Christie, literally, figurally use his head off.
00:44:59.000The independents aren't going to be like, yeah, I want that.
00:45:29.000I can tell you exactly what DeSantis is going to do on that stage.
00:45:32.000He's going to sit there and he's going to do the same thing that Dave Rubin did when he was on your show.
00:45:36.000He's going to pull out like a little quote and be like, aha, on January 4th of 2020, Dr. Fauci said this and then you said this and that was positive.
00:45:46.000But on January 5th, and it's going to come across as awkward.
00:45:51.000It's going to come across as boring and creepy.
00:45:54.000And Trump is going to make some face out of being and just be like, Fauci's a loser.
00:45:58.000And I'd rush him the chance I get to get in.
00:46:01.000And everyone's going to laugh because they don't know how to debate.
00:46:04.000And I could say this publicly, freely, because I'm not even worried because Ron DeSantis doesn't have it in him.
00:46:10.000He doesn't have that gear to be able to get out of the way.
00:48:54.000But the point is, the fact that Trump's not even considering not showing up to the debates is a massive embarrassment on the behalf of the RNC.
00:49:04.000I'm ticked off so much that the RNC has fumbled, you know, because again, remember, the RNC got out of the commission, the nonprofit that was run by liberals, so we could run our own debates.
00:50:15.000Which pays for Mike Pence because I put this tweet out, which is Mike Pence ran out of the Eisenhower building after being VP to get a multi-hundreds of thousands of dollars a year from Young America's Foundation, which is fine, whatever.
00:50:35.000They have on their payroll Mike Pence, effectively.
00:50:39.000That is the co-sponsor that the RNC thought would be smart is a person who's running for president is an organization that employs one of the candidates running for president.
00:50:51.000People would go, you know how crazy it would be if we paid Donald Trump, which we don't.
00:50:55.000Donald Trump's never asked a dime from us, by the way.
00:50:58.000But if we paid Donald Trump as an employee of Turning Point USA, do you know what kind of levels of crazy would come out of the establishment if it came out that Turning Point action, because we would never have our C3 co-sponsor a debate, but Turning Point Action sponsored a debate.
00:51:44.000I don't know how they're legally going to be able to defend this because, holy cow, that is really having a 501c3 sponsor a political party.
00:52:30.000And like you keep everyone very psychologically invested in you.
00:52:34.000And you know, I don't think we say like, oh, the general's the general, but that's what gives him part of his strength in a general election is you want the idea of Trump, who's not merely an avatar of the Republican Party.
00:52:46.000And how do you remind people he's not just an avatar of the Republican Party?
00:52:49.000He shows up at debate and he just embarrasses a ton of Republicans.
00:52:52.000Well, and that's the thing is that I have a point here.
00:53:21.000You know, we've discussed how having Yaff do it, having the RNC do it is kind of like them, you know, being a situation where they're against him.
00:53:28.000It's like if, let's say, there was some beef, let's say the Utah Jazz are just totally dragging.
00:55:46.000Vivek is cheering for Trump not to show up because he becomes the effective Trump at the debate.
00:55:53.000And then that hurts DeSantis even more.
00:55:55.000And again, if you're Trump, you're looking at this and you're going, that actually kind of makes sense.
00:55:59.000That actually makes a lot of sense for me not to show up to the debate because Vivek is going to become the Vivek Trump, you know, number two guy who's going to go back and forth.
00:56:10.000And so when they start attacking Trump, guess who's going to be defending Trump?
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00:59:32.000And I'll tell you something: when we use promo code pozo, it isn't just for Jack Pozo, it's for Tanya Tay Poso because Tanya Tay Poso, that's a girl.
01:00:26.000So three of Lizzo's former dancers have filed a lawsuit against her, accusing her of sexual harassment for creating a hostile work environment.
01:00:35.000Lizzo has violated United States civil rights law.
01:01:46.000Does say, I'm reading in the NBC News report, the captain of Lizzo's dance team is accused of proselytizing to other performers and deriding those who had premarital sex.
01:01:57.000So, whatever, we can get on board with that.
01:01:59.000But while sharing lewd sexual fantasies, simulating oral sex, and that does get to the banana part.
01:02:06.000Apparently, Lizzo had this encouraged them to take part in a practice where they would eat a certain sort of phallic-shaped fruit of yellow and color from a certain portion of anatomy.
01:04:21.000Okay, so wham is short for wet and messy.
01:04:25.000So wet and messy, which it's, it, it can be, it seems like it's combining a few different techniques, I guess you could say here.
01:04:35.000So there's feederism, which is obviously going on.
01:04:38.000Feederism is it's a type of fat shame, not fat shame, fat fetish, where you're, you're basically turned on by eating someone fatty foods.
01:04:48.000And then wet and messy is when you're then taking those foods and sploshing it basically all over the face or you know other areas.
01:04:57.000And then and then finally, there's just for food play or vor play, which is basically the um uh the simulation or the actual act of basically what she's describing right there.
01:05:38.000It was like, where it's like these, it's accounts that look like on the front face, these Instagram accounts, don't look like anything weird at all.
01:05:45.000Just looks like someone just like eating food, but you watch it, and it's like this whole like really weirdly edited.
01:05:52.000It's just a guy eating, but like they're overeating every single day, and they're celebrating.
01:05:57.000That like teenager started off as like normal, yeah, yeah, and he's celebrating fatter monster.
01:06:03.000And I think he started getting in shape again, which I hope is true.
01:06:06.000Um, oh, I wish I could find that one account, but it was like it kind of went viral where it like brought like a lot of attention to it, where it was like this disgusting, where they were celebrating like this nastiness of eating, overeating every single day.
01:06:51.000So we had a, I won't say who did this, I won't say what it was for, but we had one of those, like, what's your, what's the biggest thing you fear?
01:06:58.000This was like a team builder thing, and somebody said it was a room full of Lizzos, a room full of them.
01:07:05.000That's like going to be that's going to be like a thing in the Harry Potter reboot.
01:08:14.000There's like other clips of her playing flute like offstage on YouTube where she's actually pretty good.
01:08:20.000I'll give her, I'll give her, I'll be fair and give her the credit on that because I'm just asking this was terrible.
01:08:26.000And that's obviously, yeah, that's the real thought crime, right?
01:08:29.000Where she's actually pretty good on the flute.
01:08:31.000That's like representatives and officials from the Smithsonian that have gone over and co-signed this entire display, which to me is just amazing because what you're this is the perfect representation of what America is now today: a big old fat lady like Lizzo playing James Madison's flute.
01:08:55.000And I'm sorry, but when I look at some of these indictments of President Trump, whenever I look at some of these ridiculous opinions as we're in the end of the Supreme Court, all I can think of is fat Lizzo twerking to James Madison's flute.
01:09:06.000Yeah, I mean, it's like a defecation of a BLM fat activist twerking on stage.
01:09:13.000That's the difference in the game over screen of America.
01:09:15.000When she was on stage, my first reaction when I saw her on stage was like, right tackle for the Baltimore Ravens.
01:09:29.000Whenever you are talking about somebody like this, I always type into Google the name of the person looks like, and then see what it fills.
01:09:37.000And if you type it in, it says Lizzo looks like, and the first thing it finishes with is mashed potatoes.
01:09:43.000I thought it was going to be a wildebeest.
01:09:45.000And by the way, by the way, we get emails from people that say, oh, you fat shame.
01:10:08.000There's so many problems in America that are sad because people like can't control them.
01:10:13.000And, you know, fatness is the most controllable one.
01:10:15.000If you find, if you search like photos of me on the internet, you'll get my old daily collar photo and I look like this like fat roly pulley.
01:10:22.000And then I was like so disgusted by that.
01:10:24.000I decided to not be a fat roly-poly anymore.
01:10:26.000Just like, I mean, it's being fat is a choice.
01:10:29.000It literally requires you to do nothing to stop it.
01:10:32.000Taking bullies out of society because you just put like an 80s bully or a 90s bully back in society or any one of these schools that's out there today.
01:10:43.000They'd be running the plate because they serve a strong purpose.
01:10:49.000We need like a squad of Heathers, not like the actual Heathers, but basically a squad of Heathers at every single school, just kind of maintaining the pecking.
01:11:00.000Okay, now let's move to the group that really should be ridiculed.
01:11:13.000There's this vegan influencer, which is a job that exists now.
01:11:17.000Vegan influencer, Jana Samsonova, has, I probably got the accents on that wrong.
01:11:23.000Jack can correct me, but she has allegedly died of starvation in Malaysia while subsisting entirely on a diet of exotic fruit, which apparently did not provide her enough calories to, what's the technical term for it, live.
01:14:06.000There was a person in China, a friend of mine in China that, you know, we had them one time and I was like, I was like, yeah, okay, I'll go for it, you know, because I'm over there to obviously to try different things.
01:14:17.000People always say, like, hey, pozo, did you have, you know, did you have a dog when you lived in China?
01:16:11.000Like, where do you not need to draw the line?
01:16:12.000It's a very modern thing because you don't need to have the animals if you have hydrocarbons, but they probably don't like hydrocarbons anymore.
01:16:18.000The no-fish thing, like, really, if this woman would have had fish like once a week, she'd be alive.
01:19:49.000He wouldn't have made them so delicious.
01:19:51.000I'll never step foot again in a Burger King because of their sales of impossible whoppers.
01:19:55.000Like, I just, it just, it's just, it's, it's so bad for you.
01:19:59.000I mean, look, first of all, Burger King meat is not exactly the best thing for you, but like the impossible stuff, it's so artificial and the nutrient profile is so, it literally wages war on your digestive tract.
01:22:40.000And all of a sudden, you know, this Telegram channel has a little bit of a tendency to exaggerate this particular one, but it's totally true.
01:22:49.000This one actually happened to be legit.
01:22:52.000And so it's the third largest political party.
01:22:56.000And I've like watched this like 10 times.
01:23:55.000So Boers, these refer predominantly to the Dutch who have been in South Africa for hundreds of years, as opposed to the British, who really only got there into about the 1800s.
01:24:07.000And basically what they're referring to are white farmers that live in the more rural northern areas of South Africa.
01:24:26.000It's the farm murders that have been going on.
01:24:28.000Essentially, you get these gangs that run out there screaming at the owners of this, saying that you stole our land, even though, like I said, they've been there for hundreds of years.
01:24:38.000These are farms that have been handed down family to family since before the United States existed.
01:24:45.000And they're just simply killing these families, wiping them out.
01:24:48.000And you've got the leader of this party essentially calling for white genocide.
01:24:52.000Now, what's interesting is that the most famous South African in the world, Mr. Elon Musk, the head of the platform formerly known as Twitter, X.com, head of Twitter, actually straight up responded to Benny Johnson and called it white genocide.
01:25:12.000He said they're calling for white genocide and Silver Ramaphosa, the head of, we've got the tweet there, the head of the president of South Africa, has never said anything about it.
01:25:24.000And I say this is actually vital that Elon Musk, he's clearly the most famous living South African.
01:26:14.000Yeah, it's just like, yeah, actually, yeah, like, yeah, like when you have a statue of George Washington in Publix, that's like very microaggressive and genocidal.
01:26:23.000But when they chant, kill the boar, kill the white farmer, that's just like a symbol.
01:27:32.000So the uh the lyrics to the actual song kill the boar, which I don't know if he was literally singing it or if he was just referencing it, but this is actually these are the English language lyrics of the song, which is originally in Hosa, I believe.
01:29:35.000They don't mean we're going to convert your children, bigots.
01:29:37.000They've really memorized off the internet is the version of them and have feel like sex with them.
01:29:43.000No, no, they've really memory-holded the version that highlights like the sex crimes by various members of that choir, which I think there were like 10.
01:29:50.000No, that's actually a real thing, though.
01:29:52.000In that picture of all, but it's like you know, 55 gays, 10 of them were arrested for, yeah, you know, it's like not all of them to be clear.
01:30:02.000Some, I assume, are good people, but it is definitely a non-zero number of uh people with child sex offenses.
01:30:10.000As Kyle Rittenhouse proved, you you can't fire into a crowd of liberals without hitting at least one.
01:30:19.000The term we prefer these days is libertarian.
01:30:37.000I want to tell you about Public Square, publicsq.com.
01:30:40.000I just had dinner with Public Square, Michael Cipher.
01:30:43.000Jack, you're a big public square guy, right?
01:30:46.000Look, when you understand the power of what Public Square is doing, the fact that they were out there with this huge public offering the IPO, going down there, ringing the bell on Wall Street with Don Jr., with Cypher, with all the guys who were there.
01:31:04.000This is actually taking the world by storm.
01:31:06.000And I've spoken to them offline a little bit about this, how the signups they're seeing are going at such a fast clip now because it's building off of all of these different pieces of it, Charlie.
01:31:16.000The wokeness coming out of Hollywood, the Bud Light situation, so many different companies saying, Oh, we're going to pay for abortion.
01:31:24.000People are so checked out, but they say, How do I look?
01:31:27.000Okay, I know which companies I don't want to support anymore, but how do I know?
01:31:31.000And where's an easy way for me to find companies that I do support?
01:31:35.000That's where Public Square comes in and makes it just so incredibly easy for someone who's out there.
01:31:41.000Like if you're my wife, if you're Tanya Tay, you're trying to figure out how to get your, you know, you're worried about like dinners for the kids and they got to get to this activity, that activity.
01:32:37.000I guess he's probably in some like PUA space or whatever.
01:32:40.000But the idea is you can really like, you can see like who's the dominant person and say, oh, you know, pick up thing like in a relationship, for example, by who's standing straight, who's leaning into the other person.
01:32:53.000And so like, for example, if we got 87 here as a good example, like this looks like we think like, oh, big dude, very dominant, but the problem is he's leaning into the woman.
01:33:46.000Sexual polarity is the foundation for love.
01:33:50.000And so what people have gone now and done is with the Rivolino test or the green line test is going through anytime you see a male or a female or two men or whatever it is in a photo, you just add it in the green lines and then you see.
01:34:04.000Is this person attracted to this person?
01:34:10.000Yeah, probably the peak of this was that one of our good friends, Representative Paul Gosar, actually tweeted this a year or two ago.
01:34:19.000So he had some examples where he just tweeted images of himself with Trump where both of them are perfectly straight, thereby demonstrating their strong, assertive confidence, as it were.