The Charlie Kirk Show - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 80 — Karmelo Anthony "Race War?" AI Action Figures? Charlie Gets High?

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, it's Thought Crime Saturday.

00:00:01.000 What is the latest with the Carmelo Anthony saga?

00:00:04.000 We go through all the details of this terrible situation of Carmelo Anthony who stabbed Austin Metcalf to death.

00:00:11.000 We also go through a little bit of my appearance on Bill Maher.

00:00:15.000 I might have second-hand smoked marijuana and I'm not happy about it.

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00:01:36.000 Okay, everybody.

00:01:37.000 It is Thought Crime Thursday.

00:01:38.000 We are live from an undisclosed location in Pullman, Washington.

00:01:42.000 Not every day do you host Thought Crime in Pullman, Washington.

00:01:46.000 Are you sure, Charlie?

00:01:48.000 You look like you might be trapped in like a...

00:01:51.000 Did you get shipped to El Salvador?

00:01:53.000 Is this a hostage video?

00:01:56.000 Yeah, does this look like a hostage video?

00:01:58.000 I blame Brian completely.

00:02:00.000 We could have had the Palouse as the background.

00:02:03.000 But instead, we decided to have some sort of bunker.

00:02:07.000 Welcome to Thought Crime, everybody.

00:02:09.000 The topics today are going to be fun and exciting.

00:02:11.000 I think our first one is ADHD, if I'm not mistaken.

00:02:15.000 Which, honestly, we need Jack for an ADHD segment.

00:02:18.000 How could we possibly do ADHD without Jack?

00:02:21.000 Let's do Carmelo Anthony, because you weren't here last week for that.

00:02:24.000 Right. So Carmelo Anthony, not to be confused with the other Carmelo Anthony.

00:02:29.000 This is Carmelo with a K, not Carmelo with a C. Carmelo Anthony, of course, played for the Denver Nuggets, right?

00:02:35.000 He was a Syracuse guy, right, Brian?

00:02:37.000 And the Knicks.

00:02:38.000 Yeah, Syracuse.

00:02:39.000 I think he won a national title for Syracuse with Jim Boeheim back in, like, 01, 02, 03. So this young man was named after Carmelo Anthony.

00:02:49.000 Carmelo with a K. And it's very obvious what happened in this situation.

00:02:53.000 I actually don't even want to speak out of turn here.

00:02:55.000 Blake, I want you to give me the most pro-Carmelo argument.

00:03:01.000 Like, strong man the Carmelo case.

00:03:04.000 Because the audience has to understand that there is a widespread movement now amongst the black community and the left to support Carmelo from GoFundMes to selling t-shirts.

00:03:14.000 It's growing.

00:03:15.000 It's not a majority of the country, but it's a disturbing minority.

00:03:19.000 I want to know, am I missing something?

00:03:21.000 I keep asking that.

00:03:22.000 Blake and I have been traveling together the last week.

00:03:24.000 I'm like, Blake, what am I missing here?

00:03:25.000 What am I missing here?

00:03:26.000 So Blake, go through the facts that we know about Austin Metcalf and Carmelo Anthony and then all the recent developments today.

00:03:34.000 Am I missing something?

00:03:35.000 Because this certainly seems like murder.

00:03:38.000 Yeah, sure thing, Charlie.

00:03:40.000 So, first of all, this all happened, I think it started about two weeks ago, and there was a tragic murder that took place in Texas and in Dallas, and the situation was, initially it was a young man,

00:03:56.000 Austin Metcalf, stabbed to death, stabbed in the heart in an altercation with Carmelo Anthony.

00:04:02.000 And the original report was that it was over a seating dispute.

00:04:07.000 What came out, once we got the police report and so on, was that it sounds like there was a track meet, and Carmelo was, the description was that he was under the other team's tent.

00:04:19.000 So they have these different tents, different booth areas for different competing teams, and he was under the one for another team.

00:04:25.000 We still don't really know why.

00:04:27.000 I haven't seen that reported out in detail so far.

00:04:30.000 Why he was maybe there, because it could have been he was hanging out with someone.

00:04:34.000 It could have been he was causing trouble in some other way.

00:04:37.000 We don't know the details there yet.

00:04:39.000 And then the report in the police report is that Austin Metcalf approached and said that Carmelo had to leave.

00:04:46.000 He had to get out of there.

00:04:47.000 And that he may have touched him in some capacity to say, hey, get out.

00:04:52.000 And Carmelo said something to the extent of, if you touch me again, you'll regret it.

00:04:58.000 And then according to the report, it's that Austin grabbed him.

00:05:02.000 It doesn't say he tackled him or punched him.

00:05:04.000 It says he grabbed him.

00:05:05.000 So that's believable.

00:05:07.000 If he was trying to say get out, grab him, try to hoist him away.

00:05:10.000 And then what the account says is that Carmelo...

00:05:14.000 Pulled out a knife and stabbed him right in the heart, and he basically died on the spot.

00:05:19.000 He had his twin brother.

00:05:20.000 He died in his twin brother's arms.

00:05:22.000 And so this has become a...

00:05:25.000 It sounds like it should just be a tragic teenage murder to me, but it has become a big cause celeb that Carmelo, his family, put up a GoFundMe for his legal expenses, which I think we all agreed last week,

00:05:40.000 and I think you'd agree, Charlie.

00:05:42.000 He has the right to a legal defense.

00:05:44.000 He has the right to fundraise for it.

00:05:46.000 We've seen that be an issue in the past.

00:05:48.000 But it raised many hundreds of thousands of dollars.

00:05:52.000 And I think what really caught people's attention was the lines that were being used on that GoFundMe and on Twitter where it's like variations of that Carmelo was engaged in self-defense basically because he was grabbed.

00:06:08.000 But also these takes where it's almost like Austin was disrespecting him.

00:06:14.000 He was standing his ground because it wasn't right that anyone should tell him to go somewhere else or that if he shoved him, that was somehow justifying a lethal response.

00:06:26.000 This has continued to gain steam because in the past week, a judge drastically lowered the bail requirement for...

00:06:35.000 Carmelo to get out of jail.

00:06:36.000 It was a million dollars, and it was lowered to, I believe, $250,000, making it a lot easier to meet.

00:06:42.000 And then they made a big spectacle that he came home, and they were tweeting and stuff.

00:06:46.000 Carmelo is home now.

00:06:48.000 And then, that leads up to today, where this is why we have a good reason to continue talking about it.

00:06:53.000 The family held a press conference.

00:06:57.000 Now, two things happened at that.

00:06:59.000 First, Austin Metcalfe's father was at this press conference.

00:07:06.000 We're seeing B-roll on screen right now.

00:07:08.000 He showed up and the family of Carmelo Anthony was not happy about this.

00:07:13.000 And it seems that police or security spoke to him and basically said, please leave.

00:07:19.000 And so he did leave.

00:07:20.000 There was not a fight or anything.

00:07:22.000 And then the family proceeded.

00:07:24.000 Wait, like nobody got stabbed?

00:07:26.000 Nobody got stabbed.

00:07:27.000 He did not pull out a knife and use it on any of the officers.

00:07:33.000 I think that would have been frowned upon.

00:07:34.000 Nobody tried to stab Jeff Metcalf?

00:07:36.000 No, nobody tried to stab him.

00:07:38.000 And then, this is really wild, the family and their supporters, their attorney, or not their attorney, there was like an activist leader who was with them.

00:07:47.000 Dominique Alexander, right?

00:07:48.000 Yeah, Dominique Alexander.

00:07:48.000 gave this address where they basically said it was highly disrespectful of Jeff Metcalf to be present at this press conference.

00:07:57.000 I mean, it was probably maybe inflammatory.

00:07:59.000 I don't know if disrespectful is the term I would use.

00:08:02.000 And then, but this is where you wanted a defense of the best steel man defense of the family.

00:08:07.000 The mother of Carmelo Anthony gave a statement.

00:08:12.000 And I think maybe we have, do we have selections from that video?

00:08:15.000 We've got Dominique Alexander saying that Jeff Metcalf was being disrespectful.

00:08:21.000 Not that one.

00:08:22.000 do we have of the mother kind of relaying her experience?

00:08:25.000 Cause what she said was she did say, regardless of what you feel about.

00:08:30.000 Yeah. Yeah.

00:08:30.000 Let's, so let's play this.

00:08:32.000 Uh, let's play clip three 26. 0.97

00:08:34.000 The lies and false accusations that have been said about us, especially over the past week, has been overwhelming.

00:08:43.000 The lies and their amplification put my family in danger, as well as everyone in our community, everyone involved in the investigation.

00:08:53.000 From the police, the attorneys, and the court staff.

00:08:58.000 Our son deserves the same rights under the law that everyone is afforded to.

00:09:04.000 He's been raised in a two-parent home with structure, stability, love, and we put God first in everything that we do.

00:09:14.000 We believe in the Constitution.

00:09:16.000 We believe in the laws of this state.

00:09:18.000 But those laws must apply to all of us.

00:09:23.000 And another thing that wasn't in that clip, but she says, she said, you know, regardless of how you feel about what happened with our son, she says, you know, his parents and his siblings are not...

00:09:38.000 responsible for that.

00:09:39.000 She said that they have a daughter who's a teenager who has been afraid to sleep.

00:09:44.000 I believe it was afraid to sleep in their own home because of that.

00:09:46.000 And that's why it came.

00:09:47.000 It's been discussed that they were finding new housing arrangements.

00:09:50.000 And that's where she says she complained in there about the lies. 1.00

00:09:53.000 There have been these claims on X and elsewhere that the family immediately used the GoFundMe to buy a mansion or to...

00:10:01.000 I think by a Cadillac Escalade and various things like that.

00:10:05.000 And they said, those are lies.

00:10:06.000 And as far as I know from what I've looked in, those are not true.

00:10:10.000 They may be renting a new place, but that is what they've said they're going to do.

00:10:14.000 And there's no evidence that they bought a brand new car with money or anything.

00:10:19.000 But that has been the latest development.

00:10:21.000 But you still see these very disturbing comments on the GoFundMe or on the Gibson Go, whichever they used, where they're saying...

00:10:31.000 Like, throw up 339.

00:10:33.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:10:34.000 So we have one.

00:10:35.000 Nobody knows what happened under that tent, but the individual's involved.

00:10:38.000 And this is Will P. He says, since they will support theirs no matter what, I'm standing with my black brother.

00:10:45.000 And then he has that brown, that black... 0.93

00:10:48.000 Lives Matter fist there.

00:10:50.000 And there's 44 hearts on that remark.

00:10:52.000 So several dozen people strongly agree with that.

00:10:55.000 And there have been others to that effect over the past several weeks.

00:10:58.000 So this is very clearly becoming a racialized situation, Charlie.

00:11:03.000 And I know people want to hear what your take on it is.

00:11:06.000 Well, I think it's obviously been racialized since the beginning in the sense where you have a black perpetrator and a white victim. 0.62

00:11:12.000 We don't know if race played into it, but...

00:11:15.000 You have to ask the question, like, the media coverage of this and the kid gloves and the sympathetic.

00:11:21.000 Of course there's a racial component to this.

00:11:24.000 And it's a white kid that was murdered by a black kid for no good reason.

00:11:29.000 Because he touched him.

00:11:30.000 Because he touched him.

00:11:32.000 And I just want to just say this to our side.

00:11:35.000 Let's not take the bait at some of the worst actors that would love to try to start a race conflict war while Donald Trump is president.

00:11:44.000 While it's very obvious that Carmelo Anthony here committed murder, now Carmelo Anthony probably won't end up spending much time in prison, maybe 10 to 15 years, but I think it's very, very important that we just try to slow this down and allow the justice system to do its thing.

00:12:04.000 Carmelo Anthony deserves due process, the presumption of innocence.

00:12:08.000 I'd love to hear all of what his attorneys have to say.

00:12:11.000 They got lots of legal defense money there.

00:12:15.000 And the elements involved here is so concerning because he touched him and he just takes out a knife and he starts stabbing him.

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00:13:29.000 Let's play cut 336.

00:13:31.000 This is Dominique Alexander.

00:13:33.000 Play cut 336.

00:13:34.000 Black people in America, while the current occupant sits at 1600 Pennsylvania, black people in America don't have to pull the race card.

00:13:46.000 It's what we live as a reality every day.

00:13:51.000 It's what we have to teach our children.

00:13:53.000 We don't want to, but we have to.

00:13:58.000 We don't like to, but if we want to sleep at night, we got to.

00:14:05.000 I ain't pulling no race card.

00:14:07.000 I live it.

00:14:09.000 I'm reminded all the time that I'm a black man in America.

00:14:13.000 Okay, so he's now invoking Trump.

00:14:16.000 I have no idea what he just said.

00:14:17.000 I know the words.

00:14:18.000 I heard what he said.

00:14:19.000 I have no idea what that means.

00:14:21.000 None. I have literally no idea what that means.

00:14:25.000 While the current occupant sits at 1600 Avenue, black people in America don't have to pull the race card.

00:14:31.000 It's what we live as a reality every day.

00:14:33.000 It's what we have to teach our children.

00:14:34.000 We don't want to, but we have to.

00:14:36.000 We all like to, but if we want to sleep at night, we got to.

00:14:38.000 This is a guy who has watched way too many Martin Luther King Jr. videos and thinks he's like the next civil rights leader.

00:14:44.000 That made absolutely no sense.

00:14:46.000 No one understands what you're saying.

00:14:47.000 No, you're like black people in America. 1.00

00:14:49.000 While the current occupant sits at 1600 Avenue, we don't have to play the race card.

00:14:54.000 I ain't playing no race card.

00:14:55.000 I live it.

00:14:55.000 I'm reminded all the time.

00:14:56.000 So let me get straight.

00:14:57.000 You're part of the platoon and the team representing the black kid who murdered the white kid. 0.90

00:15:03.000 And you're now trying to bring race into this and also try to bring in Donald Trump.

00:15:07.000 And this is where the Al Sharpton is the world and all these people.

00:15:11.000 Al Sharpton hasn't pounced on this yet.

00:15:13.000 But they are licking their chops.

00:15:15.000 They're foaming at the mouth because they want to try to turn this into a big Donald Trump thing to try to make this a race war.

00:15:23.000 And let's not fall for that at all.

00:15:27.000 Let's slow down.

00:15:29.000 Let's internalize really what's happened here.

00:15:33.000 And yeah, I mean, my thoughts are this is a tragedy.

00:15:36.000 I keep on saying over and over again, am I missing anything?

00:15:40.000 Am I missing anything?

00:15:41.000 This is a very open-and-shut, clean-cut case of a black kid who had a knife when he shouldn't have because somebody touched him and he murders him in cold blood.

00:15:52.000 And then he dies in his twin's arms.

00:15:55.000 That's sick and disturbing stuff.

00:15:58.000 Is Jack with us or are we still working on the tech here?

00:16:01.000 Right here.

00:16:02.000 Jack, what are your thoughts?

00:16:03.000 Yeah, Charlie, I mean, this is a situation where, I mean, it started out as a tragedy, but it's now been turned into a circus, really by the conduct of this individual who, look, you know, I'm always one of these guys who says,

00:16:19.000 you know, don't make it about the family.

00:16:21.000 You know, let's leave the families out of it. 0.98

00:16:23.000 Let's just talk about the individuals who were, you know, involved in the case.

00:16:26.000 But this family advocate that, you know, whatever people want to call this guy or whatever he calls himself, Was hired by the family.

00:16:35.000 So this was who they chose after receiving all this money from the give, send, go.

00:16:41.000 That's going into the account there.

00:16:44.000 Huge, huge outpouring.

00:16:46.000 And suddenly it's turned into a circus.

00:16:48.000 And they say, don't make this about race.

00:16:50.000 Don't make this about race.

00:16:53.000 He himself is the one making the entire thing about race.

00:16:58.000 It's classic cry bullyism where don't do this, don't do this, don't do this.

00:17:04.000 You see, this is all about race.

00:17:06.000 You guys are making it all about race.

00:17:07.000 So he's attacking you while doing the exact same thing he's accusing you of doing.

00:17:15.000 You know, he attacks Trump, he attacks all, you know, all of society, you know, basically makes allusions to systemic racism, you know, filming these videos as if it's some kind of documentary.

00:17:28.000 And what he's really doing with the press conference today, and it's just my draw hit the floor when I saw that they were doing this, it's a classic example of Darvo. 1.00

00:17:41.000 And Darvo, and I had a tweet out on this earlier today, It's called DARVO, and it's a narcissistic tactic, but you see it happen a lot with certain types of politics, typically found on the far left or in grievance politics,

00:17:56.000 where it goes through deny, attack, and then reverse victim and offender.

00:18:04.000 This is also, by the way, that they threw the father of Austin Metcalf out of the room, because...

00:18:12.000 Of course, you cannot play the victim card when an actual victim is present.

00:18:18.000 And so not only did they, you know, kind of ironically demand that the father of Austin Metcalf move from his seat, but when he refused to move from his seat, well, they called the police on the father of the boy who was stabbed to death and bled out.

00:18:41.000 Okay. You raised the crux of the point here.

00:18:48.000 Oh, and those clips were just deleted from my chat.

00:18:52.000 The point is here, this family member, this mom actually seemed earnest in her remarks.

00:18:59.000 It felt sincere to me, like maybe she is a good Christian woman.

00:19:03.000 And listen, great parents can sometimes have wayward kids, okay?

00:19:07.000 That happens.

00:19:08.000 It's not always the parents' fault.

00:19:09.000 It isn't.

00:19:11.000 I believe that they may not be guilty of anything here.

00:19:15.000 What I will tell you they are guilty of is hiring this clown named Dominique Alexander.

00:19:21.000 An absolute clown show.

00:19:24.000 And this clip, Jack, it's 317, you guys get it ready, of him...

00:19:32.000 Basically castigating the father for showing up at this press conference is something that made my jaw absolutely drop to the floor.

00:19:41.000 I couldn't believe it when I saw it.

00:19:42.000 I think it shook the internet.

00:19:44.000 This guy is a clown.

00:19:45.000 He's an imposter. 0.95

00:19:46.000 He's a fraud.

00:19:47.000 He's a con man.

00:19:48.000 This family is guilty so far of one thing, and that is hiring this man.

00:19:54.000 And I absolutely judge them for hiring this man.

00:19:58.000 Now, I get it.

00:19:58.000 They're disoriented.

00:19:59.000 Nobody knows what to do in a situation like this.

00:20:02.000 I can tell you one thing you don't do.

00:20:04.000 Hire this man.

00:20:05.000 We should play it.

00:20:06.000 317. And all I'm going to say, so it don't be asked later, is that was disrespectful and just shows you all the character.

00:20:22.000 He was not invited.

00:20:24.000 He knows that it's inappropriate to be near this family.

00:20:30.000 But he did it.

00:20:32.000 And so I say to people, actions speak louder than words.

00:20:37.000 Okay? What he has failed into is the political operatives that want to make this thing a political thing of hate.

00:20:50.000 yet bigotry and yet racism.

00:20:53.000 We have conservative operatives that have been posting nonstop

00:21:00.000 Okay. Charlie, go for it.

00:21:06.000 I really don't like this person.

00:21:08.000 I mean, I don't know really what to say that I can say, but I'll just say that This is the worst.

00:21:17.000 There's like an entire industry of people like this.

00:21:19.000 Benjamin Crump is like this, where they are just...

00:21:22.000 They're not just ambulance.

00:21:24.000 They're not ambulance chasers.

00:21:25.000 They are crisis chasers.

00:21:28.000 And they get in front of the cameras.

00:21:29.000 And in fact, the media is giving this any sort of hearing.

00:21:32.000 The Dallas Morning News.

00:21:33.000 Family of Frisco stabbing suspect under attack with harassment threats, mothers say.

00:21:39.000 Oh, really?

00:21:40.000 Your son murdered somebody.

00:21:42.000 Oh, really?

00:21:43.000 And now you hire this clown.

00:21:46.000 To go on and on about this is racism.

00:21:48.000 This is racism.

00:21:49.000 I mean, honestly, why don't you raise a kid that knows not to have A, a knife on him at a track meet?

00:21:55.000 B, not to go use that knife.

00:21:57.000 And by the way, just so we're clear, there is image after image of K. Marlo Anthony.

00:22:02.000 Carmelo Anthony, now with a C. Not exactly living a Boy Scout life.

00:22:08.000 Lots of images of him kind of playing into all this.

00:22:11.000 And so...

00:22:11.000 While there might have been a two-parent home raising Carmel Anthony, I don't know what his parents were doing all day long.

00:22:16.000 These parents should have a little bit of contrition. 0.99

00:22:19.000 These parents should have a little bit of shame. 0.98

00:22:20.000 Like, where is the shame in these parents?

00:22:22.000 Look at these images on screen.

00:22:24.000 He's got like an AK-47 with a gang sign.

00:22:27.000 This is in a nice area in Frisco, Texas.

00:22:32.000 And... The lack of any self-awareness for these parents to think, yeah, we raised a murderer.

00:22:38.000 Oh, I know what we're going to do.

00:22:39.000 We're going to now go play the victim because people said mean stuff to us.

00:22:45.000 Charlie Kirk here.

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00:23:47.000 Blake. Yeah, I'm a little more sympathetic to them just in that, like, I'm generally, you know, in the war between nature and nurture over the last 20 years, like, nature has kind of been kicking the butt of nurture, and that's not the answer we like.

00:24:03.000 People like the idea that we can very strongly influence how people turn out, but a lot of people are just kind of rotten, and I would say, unfortunately, I suspect this kid was going to go a bad way.

00:24:18.000 No matter what.

00:24:19.000 They can love him.

00:24:20.000 They can support him.

00:24:21.000 But some people just are going to be dangerous and violent individuals.

00:24:26.000 And I'm also just...

00:24:28.000 Do I wish they were behaving a bit differently?

00:24:32.000 Yeah, I do.

00:24:32.000 I would like the idea that someone could just be properly horrified and ashamed that someone in their family did an unspeakable evil.

00:24:41.000 But one of the things about family is, is those are the people who we like have to generally associate with.

00:24:48.000 And they kind of do support you when nobody else will.

00:24:52.000 And sometimes that's really unpleasant.

00:24:56.000 that comes to mind, I think, was that that creep in that creep in Idaho who allegedly murdered all of those all those girls at the college.

00:25:08.000 And Brian.

00:25:09.000 Oh, Brian...

00:25:10.000 That's where I am right now.

00:25:12.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:25:13.000 Watch out, Charlie.

00:25:15.000 Because, you know, the real killer might still be out there.

00:25:17.000 No, I'm watching out.

00:25:17.000 But I remember the family issued a statement that basically said, like, this is horrifying, but, like, he is our son and we are going to...

00:25:26.000 Brian Koberger.

00:25:27.000 Yeah, like, we are going to do what we can.

00:25:29.000 It was, like, a pretty anodyne statement overall, but they were saying, like, he is our son and we will try to support him.

00:25:35.000 And I remember, like, one of his sisters got fired from her job as a result of this because she was just related to this bad guy.

00:25:45.000 And I think most people responded with, wait, that's a gross thing to do.

00:25:49.000 You should not punish a collective group of people for what one person did, even if it is possible.

00:25:54.000 Maybe there was inept parenting in there. 0.94

00:25:56.000 Maybe there was negligence in there.

00:25:58.000 That's very possible.

00:25:59.000 And I remember we were also, you know, we had the discussion here when they prosecuted the parents because that son got a gun and then committed a shooting with it.

00:26:11.000 In that case, it was definitely inept.

00:26:15.000 Grossly negligent parenting by the parents involved.

00:26:17.000 They had a son who there were clear red flags that he was dangerous and yet they allowed him to obtain a weapon.

00:26:24.000 And I think we all basically agreed it's still not good to normalize prosecuting parents for what their kids do.

00:26:32.000 Or at least we said if they were going to do it, it should be done equally.

00:26:35.000 But there was also a racial angle to that one too, I think we thought.

00:26:38.000 So my general disposition, this will get me called...

00:26:43.000 Probably a cuck by the comments or something.

00:26:45.000 But I'm not going to get really angry at the family.

00:26:48.000 Other than, yeah, they hired this local activist parasite who you Google his name and you get the 2016 article where he goes to jail for breaking probation and it's his eighth time in jail because he'd previously beat a child and done all this bad stuff.

00:27:04.000 I suspect they don't know about all of that.

00:27:08.000 These people ooze.

00:27:10.000 They're disgusting individuals.

00:27:11.000 They very obviously are so.

00:27:13.000 I wish they hadn't done that, but I will not get as angry as a lot of people do that they support their son.

00:27:20.000 People support their kids.

00:27:22.000 That is how the world is.

00:27:25.000 Blake, there was a graphic that just came up.

00:27:29.000 These are all of Dominique Alexander, the real clown in this whole story.

00:27:34.000 Carmelo Anthony deserves to be...

00:27:37.000 Criminal number one, but criminal number two here, 1B really, is Dominic Alexander.

00:27:42.000 These are all his mugshots.

00:27:43.000 Go to 329.

00:27:45.000 Somehow he's also a cross-dresser, so I'm not exactly sure.

00:27:50.000 A little sugar in the tank of that photo.

00:27:52.000 Yeah, so just to give you a smattering of this guy's rap sheet.

00:27:57.000 2009, arrested, convicted in 2011, charged with causing serious bodily injury to a child, a two-year-old, first-degree felony.

00:28:06.000 He pleaded guilty in 2011 and received 10 years of deferred adjudication probation.

00:28:11.000 2011-2013, probation violations violated probation terms from the 2011 child injury case multiple times, including stealing a car, check forgery, and involvement in domestic disturbance leading to a police chase in Carrollton.

00:28:28.000 2015, cited by Arlington Police for offensive physical contact against a family member.

00:28:34.000 2016, sentenced to two years in prison in August 2016 for multiple probation violations and the 2011 child injury case.

00:28:42.000 2017, arrested in Denton County.

00:28:45.000 And on and on and on.

00:28:47.000 So this guy is a real swindler, a real con artist.

00:28:51.000 And somehow he's locked arms with this family.

00:28:57.000 And so, like, while I'm tempted to be sympathetic to this mom who said they put God first, okay, you're speaking my love language, lady.

00:29:05.000 I get it.

00:29:05.000 Like, I want to have sympathy for you.

00:29:07.000 What on earth are you doing with this guy?

00:29:10.000 How did he show up?

00:29:12.000 Where did he come from?

00:29:13.000 Is there, like, a Ben Crump backup, like, call center somewhere where these guys, like, oh, Ben Crump's not available?

00:29:18.000 So this guy just slides right in?

00:29:21.000 Like, this is insane to me.

00:29:23.000 And the fact that they're just sitting there letting him do his thing is insane.

00:29:26.000 Revolting. When you order Ben Crump on Teemu, you end up with this guy.

00:29:35.000 Like the AI slot version of Ben Crump.

00:29:38.000 Yeah. There we go.

00:29:40.000 Yeah, basically.

00:29:40.000 And I'm sorry, but the family ordered this.

00:29:44.000 The family didn't have to choose this guy.

00:29:47.000 They could have picked someone.

00:29:49.000 They clearly want to, right?

00:29:51.000 She's standing right there.

00:29:52.000 Throughout all of this, she's endorsing everything that he's saying.

00:29:56.000 She doesn't once say, hey, let's not racialize this.

00:29:59.000 In fact, it was the father of Austin Metcalfe who originally said, let's not racialize this.

00:30:08.000 Let's just make this about two individuals.

00:30:10.000 Yeah, the day after.

00:30:11.000 He said, I don't want to make this a race thing.

00:30:13.000 And then all of a sudden, it was the family of the perpetrator.

00:30:19.000 I'll say alleged perpetrator, whatever, for legal purposes, but it was not the family of the son.

00:30:25.000 That's what I mean.

00:30:26.000 He did admit to it.

00:30:28.000 So he said, it's not alleged.

00:30:29.000 I did this.

00:30:30.000 I'm not laughing.

00:30:31.000 I shouldn't be laughing, but it's just such a joke.

00:30:33.000 It's clown world.

00:30:34.000 This is clown world on steroids.

00:30:38.000 This family has decided to tear apart their entire community, by the way.

00:30:43.000 By the way, at one point, I think it's later in the press conference, he even...

00:30:48.000 He even starts attacking the school district.

00:30:51.000 I think it's the Frisco ISD, Independent School District, because they're going to be expelling Carmelo.

00:30:56.000 He said, how dare you expel him?

00:30:58.000 He's only weeks away from graduation.

00:30:59.000 He stabbed a kid to death!

00:31:03.000 He stabbed a kid to death!

00:31:05.000 Right? An unarmed teenager.

00:31:07.000 You can't reason with these people.

00:31:09.000 No, you cannot reason.

00:31:10.000 There's no reason.

00:31:11.000 It kind of makes you wonder, did Ben Crump even look at this?

00:31:14.000 And he's like...

00:31:14.000 Nah, I'm good.

00:31:16.000 Yeah, I will say though, by the way, I've been keeping an eye out for like, so you see how all the high level Democrats and Chris Van Hollen are all in on this.

00:31:24.000 They haven't been gangbanger.

00:31:26.000 Yeah, nobody.

00:31:27.000 And I've really been looking for this.

00:31:29.000 Nobody has been on this one because they all realize like this ain't the one, you know, this is, this is really not the one to get into.

00:31:37.000 And yeah, there's, there's no really high profile individual on the left at all.

00:31:43.000 We'll see.

00:31:44.000 You know, we'll see.

00:31:45.000 And I will certainly find it if it does happen.

00:31:47.000 By the way, as we're doing this, I believe, speaking of the MS-13 guy, I believe they just released some pictures of him meeting with, you know, breaking news, meeting with Senator Chris Van Hollen.

00:31:59.000 So apparently he's not in the death and torture camps, but apparently they went and got margaritas or something down in El Salvador, which is pretty amazing.

00:32:11.000 So, yeah.

00:32:12.000 We've seen them go all in on the gangbanger, but no, they have not gone in on the child stabber just yet.

00:32:19.000 Now everybody's looking it up.

00:32:23.000 Yeah, he's like...

00:32:24.000 Yeah, no, it's incredible.

00:32:26.000 I guess Bukele let him out.

00:32:30.000 The whole thing's insane.

00:32:31.000 The fact they got this far is actually frustratingly...

00:32:35.000 Here, we'll put the image up.

00:32:37.000 I've got it.

00:32:39.000 Eventually. It's interesting.

00:32:42.000 Yeah, and it's just like, this is our country now.

00:32:45.000 This is the country we have to live in.

00:32:47.000 You know, each case that comes up is, you know, we've got to litigate each piece of it.

00:32:53.000 There we go.

00:32:53.000 There it is.

00:32:54.000 There's Kilmar Abrego Garcia.

00:32:59.000 And he's a Chiefs fan.

00:33:00.000 Of course he's a Chiefs fan.

00:33:01.000 He lives in freaking Maryland.

00:33:03.000 This guy sucks.

00:33:04.000 Keep him there.

00:33:04.000 Are you kidding me?

00:33:05.000 That's the worst one.

00:33:07.000 He just follows the popular team.

00:33:10.000 No, that's right.

00:33:11.000 This guy, keep him in El Salvador. 1.00

00:33:14.000 Yeah. Are you kidding me?

00:33:16.000 Look at this Maryland dad.

00:33:18.000 And look at the fake sincerity of this senator.

00:33:21.000 I'm surprised, actually, El Salvador even arranged this meeting.

00:33:25.000 I'm actually surprised, to be perfectly honest.

00:33:27.000 Bukele posted the pictures himself on X. I think he actually kind of broke the story.

00:33:34.000 Just a couple of minutes ago.

00:33:36.000 He is a citizen of El Salvador.

00:33:39.000 I hope...

00:33:39.000 Everyone understands that.

00:33:40.000 He has citizenship in the country of El Salvador.

00:33:43.000 Yeah, it's not a foreign prison.

00:33:46.000 They keep saying, oh, they sent him to a foreign prison.

00:33:48.000 They sent him to a foreign prison.

00:33:49.000 It's not a foreign prison for him.

00:33:51.000 That is his regular prison because he's from El Salvador. 0.96

00:33:55.000 I'll be honest.

00:33:55.000 It's domestic.

00:33:56.000 I'm surprised at the way this is developed because I feel like the simplest way this should resolve itself is like the Supreme Court said you have to facilitate his return.

00:34:04.000 So what Trump should do is come out and say like, okay.

00:34:07.000 Like, publicly, hey, El Salvador, are you willing to send this guy to us?

00:34:11.000 And Bukele should come out and say, no, because he's an El Salvadoran citizen, and we suspect he's a member of a criminal gang that we imprison every member of. 0.93

00:34:20.000 No, they did that at the White House.

00:34:21.000 They kind of did that at the White House when he was sitting there.

00:34:24.000 They alluded to it, but, like, they did not literally do that, and I feel like that's kind of what the Supreme Court was asking them to do.

00:34:30.000 Try to get him back.

00:34:31.000 And they could send the formal requests.

00:34:33.000 They could have Marco Rubio's secretary write up a little email and send it to them.

00:34:38.000 And then Bukele can come out and say, yeah, El Salvador does not extradite its citizens who we suspect have committed crimes so that they can avoid punishment.

00:34:48.000 And then he can say, we'll investigate him for the whole MS-13 thing because there's reason to believe that.

00:34:54.000 And then they can go into that.

00:34:56.000 And then we can go from there.

00:35:00.000 That would probably have been the best way to handle it, but we'll see what unfolds.

00:35:02.000 This is pretty funny.

00:35:03.000 But this is great, actually, from Naive Bukele, president of El Salvador.

00:35:09.000 He said, now that he's been confirmed healthy, he gets the honor of staying in El Salvador's custody.

00:35:15.000 Which is great.

00:35:19.000 I noticed that Bukele actually retweeted Cernovich, who said there was a pernicious lie going around, and apparently liberals were actually believing it, that he was actually dead.

00:35:30.000 So I think Naive Bukele is basically being like, okay, proof of life picture.

00:35:34.000 Obviously he looks healthy and fine.

00:35:36.000 Now back in custody.

00:35:38.000 So I think that's how this is going to play out.

00:35:40.000 This is sort of Bukele calling their bluff that he's been well taken care of and is healthy.

00:35:48.000 Sipping margaritas.

00:35:49.000 Some people say that this might make him look sympathetic.

00:35:52.000 The Chiefs hat, this guy's got no morals.

00:35:54.000 He's got no loyalty.

00:35:55.000 This guy just comes into our country and he thinks he can invade and be part of MS-13 and you live near Baltimore and you're wearing a Chiefs hat. 0.54

00:36:04.000 Do you got also a Patriots jersey from 10 years ago, pal?

00:36:08.000 Do you have a Lakers jersey from the early 2000s?

00:36:10.000 And I bet you got a Yankees hat as well.

00:36:12.000 We'll send them via Federal Express to San Salvador. 0.99

00:36:16.000 He's going to be super heartbroken later this year when the Warriors don't win the NBA title.

00:36:23.000 This is so offensive to me.

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00:37:30.000 Well, so the gang information report, I hadn't personally heard this.

00:37:34.000 I'm not, you know, I wouldn't consider myself an MS-13 expert, but they were actually saying that...

00:37:40.000 It was known within the gang locally, at least within, I guess it was the western section of the MS-13, that the wearing of different sports teams and sports logos was to denote various symbols within the gang.

00:37:54.000 So it was like the...

00:37:56.000 It wasn't that he was wearing the Chicago Bulls hat because he was a fan, but that because he was a bull and he had been given this permission to wear the Bulls hat for some reason.

00:38:07.000 So I don't know if he was wearing it because he was a fan per se.

00:38:11.000 But again, this came out with the Attorney General's office put out yesterday that...

00:38:16.000 Not only was he a member of MS-13 and arrested with other high-ranking members of MS-13, but he had a rank in MS-13.

00:38:25.000 He had a gang name in MS-13.

00:38:28.000 And he was well-known to other people in MS-13.

00:38:33.000 So, yeah, you've got this situation where, you know, the senator goes down there and he doesn't actually represent this guy.

00:38:41.000 He doesn't at all.

00:38:43.000 You're not a citizen of the United States.

00:38:45.000 You've never had legal permission to be in this country. 1.00

00:38:48.000 You are not a constituent of Chris Van Hollen.

00:38:50.000 But I'm just going to go to show you, look, the Democrats get optics, man.

00:38:55.000 The Republicans would never do political theater like this.

00:38:58.000 Republicans don't, you know, we couldn't even get anyone to go to Fort Knox.

00:39:01.000 When all that was going on and where's the gold and people were asking questions about that, the Democrats understand this.

00:39:07.000 This is going to be a huge propaganda victory for them.

00:39:10.000 The story's going to get legs for another week or so.

00:39:13.000 And they're going to say, look at this, you know, this poor guy.

00:39:16.000 And, you know, he certainly looks like a, you know, a Maryland dad in this picture.

00:39:21.000 So right now I'm going to say this is a W for Democrats.

00:39:24.000 It just is.

00:39:25.000 It just is.

00:39:26.000 And it is an L for Americans.

00:39:28.000 Look at the—throw this tweet up that Naive Bukele posted, 345.

00:39:35.000 He just retweeted it.

00:39:36.000 This is Michael Cassidy, obviously, the Satan slayer.

00:39:39.000 Jack will remember.

00:39:41.000 He said, imagine if Democrat senators cared about Americans as much as they do.

00:39:45.000 Yeah, foreign gang members who spent a few years in the U.S. and Naive Bukele retweeted that. 0.85

00:39:51.000 So, I mean, it's clear where his sympathies lie, but— Nevertheless, I think you—I mean, you might be right, Jack.

00:40:01.000 And by the way, I think we've gotten better at political theater and the optics of it.

00:40:07.000 But, yeah, I mean— No, I'm not saying what's so funny.

00:40:10.000 Can I just interject, though?

00:40:13.000 Let me interject.

00:40:15.000 What's so funny is that when I spend time around liberals, they think we're way better at political theater than them.

00:40:22.000 They think we're better at influencing.

00:40:24.000 They think we're better at social media.

00:40:27.000 I tend to agree with Jack.

00:40:28.000 I think they are better at this.

00:40:31.000 Andrew, I think you can reinforce it.

00:40:34.000 They think we are way better than we even think we are at these things.

00:40:37.000 Would you agree with that, Andrew?

00:40:39.000 Oh, 100%.

00:40:39.000 I have reporters call me all the time.

00:40:42.000 They want to do all these features on Turning Point and Charlie and this movement that we've built and the influence.

00:40:51.000 I got a call this week.

00:40:52.000 We actually might participate in the story.

00:40:54.000 It's a fun story.

00:40:57.000 People have done studies on political movements and they're saying the turning point is the most successful modern example of building a political movement and all this kind of thing.

00:41:07.000 They think we're amazing at it.

00:41:08.000 I will tell you.

00:41:11.000 We are good at that.

00:41:12.000 I totally agree with you, Charlie.

00:41:16.000 Here's an idea.

00:41:17.000 A friend of mine actually just gave this to me.

00:41:21.000 You have to confirm ambassadors to countries and a lot of other things.

00:41:25.000 But you can have the president send special envoys.

00:41:30.000 Special envoys can be appointed without Senate confirmation.

00:41:34.000 So President Trump, he could appoint anyone as his special envoy to El Salvador for this case and say, you have to go to Bukele and make the case on behalf of the U.S. government for sending him back.

00:41:47.000 And you could send a Trump supporter, or you could send...

00:41:51.000 You could send a Democrat.

00:41:52.000 You could send anyone.

00:41:53.000 Send someone you actively want to humiliate.

00:41:56.000 Send them to El Salvador and say, make the case.

00:42:00.000 And they can go and they can make the sale.

00:42:03.000 Do it in private.

00:42:05.000 Put it on live TV.

00:42:06.000 I don't care.

00:42:07.000 But then you can make it clear.

00:42:08.000 We are sending someone to do this.

00:42:12.000 And then Bukele can respond however he wants because he is, in fact, a foreign president.

00:42:17.000 He could say, yeah, I'm not going to extradite.

00:42:19.000 A Salvadoran citizen to a country he's not a citizen of, especially when we think he's a gang member.

00:42:25.000 He could say, I think that sending this likely MS-13 member to the U.S. would hurt El Salvador's reputation.

00:42:33.000 It would intensify the gang connections between here and America that have damaged my country so much.

00:42:39.000 He can come up with any number of possible things.

00:42:42.000 But that's one idea for how they could resolve this.

00:42:44.000 I think they have a lot of ideas bouncing around right now.

00:42:48.000 Can I just do a quick fact check on this guy?

00:42:51.000 Let's go to the next topic because we do have some time parameters.

00:42:56.000 Sorry, Andrew, go ahead.

00:42:59.000 He's a wife beater.

00:43:00.000 In his wife's own handwriting, she accuses him of beating her up multiple times, bruising her, scratching her, blooding her.

00:43:09.000 He was pulled over with eight foreign nationals in the car that all claimed his address.

00:43:16.000 So human trafficking, he said they were going for construction work.

00:43:21.000 Two different courts said he was an MS-13 gangbanger.

00:43:26.000 Not exactly an upright citizen.

00:43:27.000 He lied to immigration court to avoid deportation.

00:43:31.000 So it defies all logic.

00:43:35.000 And I thought Patty Morin, Rachel Morin's mom, the angel mom, from the press briefing room at the White House did an amazing job where she just begged the press to tell the truth.

00:43:46.000 Yeah, obviously Democrats have made some calculation that they think this is the hill to die on, that this is the guy to fight for, and I find it revolting, disgusting.

00:43:55.000 And scummy, candidly.

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00:44:52.000 All right, AI Slop.

00:44:53.000 Blake, walk us through it.

00:44:54.000 All righty, all righty.

00:44:55.000 So, AI, apparently AI gets about twice as good every 13 months or something now.

00:45:01.000 So, it's getting better and better and better.

00:45:03.000 And you can use it to generate all of this original artwork.

00:45:06.000 We have two concepts here that we're getting at.

00:45:08.000 The first thing, we have to get to this week's big AI meme or gimmick or whatever.

00:45:14.000 But it's making action figures or, like, kind of toys.

00:45:18.000 Of various people.

00:45:19.000 So we, of course, have already had one for Trump.

00:45:22.000 We've had some for Vance.

00:45:23.000 We've had some for all the political figures.

00:45:25.000 But nothing says it has to be a person in the Trump White House.

00:45:29.000 So let's put up 335, guys.

00:45:33.000 We've made the Charlie Kirk toy.

00:45:36.000 The prove-me-wrong Charlie.

00:45:39.000 It took us a few attempts.

00:45:40.000 Charlie, this is your action figure.

00:45:42.000 Can we zoom in on that?

00:45:44.000 I like it.

00:45:46.000 You know what's the only thing that's missing is my lozenges?

00:45:49.000 Lozenges? And my bottle of olive oil.

00:45:52.000 Well, you've got your Starbucks cup that you've got everywhere.

00:45:55.000 And we've got your hat.

00:45:58.000 That's true.

00:45:59.000 And is it America First on the shirt?

00:46:01.000 Uh-huh.

00:46:01.000 All right.

00:46:02.000 I said they should put vote early on the shirt.

00:46:04.000 It's not too bad.

00:46:04.000 Maybe that would be like the period piece one.

00:46:06.000 I mean, the real one, of course, could have like five different shirts and you can realistically change them on the little Charlie figure to make it better.

00:46:13.000 But we didn't stop there.

00:46:15.000 Let's put up 334. 0.99

00:46:17.000 We made the Poso one.

00:46:19.000 We have the Poso doll.

00:46:20.000 He kind of looks like he's dang rich a little.

00:46:23.000 We have his accurate phone.

00:46:25.000 We have...

00:46:26.000 That's really accurate.

00:46:27.000 We have his Creed album there.

00:46:29.000 That's really...

00:46:30.000 Yeah. On CD, of course.

00:46:32.000 You look...

00:46:33.000 The suit is pretty...

00:46:35.000 You have short little legs, though.

00:46:37.000 Yeah, it's like he's a little dwarf guy. 0.99

00:46:39.000 Yeah, why am I so...

00:46:40.000 Why is it like midget Poso? 0.91

00:46:43.000 Yeah, what's up with that?

00:46:44.000 Wait, go back.

00:46:45.000 Was Charlie full-size Charlie, or was Charlie stumpy?

00:46:49.000 I don't think Charlie was...

00:46:50.000 Yeah, see, you didn't do it to Charlie.

00:46:52.000 What's up with that?

00:46:53.000 Charlie looks normal.

00:46:55.000 Charlie, you guys got to get, like, you need a coffee sponsor, man.

00:46:58.000 You can't keep repping Starbucks like that.

00:47:01.000 I know.

00:47:02.000 I need to get a real coffee partner. 0.98

00:47:04.000 All right, now, what else do we have?

00:47:06.000 We made a Tyler Bowyer one.

00:47:08.000 Put up the Tyler one.

00:47:10.000 So his is not...

00:47:12.000 The action figure part is breaking down a little bit, but we've got his aviator glasses.

00:47:17.000 We have his Phoenix Suns jersey that would not actually fit on that figure, but whatever.

00:47:22.000 And we also have his ASU hat.

00:47:25.000 Thinking about it now, we should give him that red cowboy hat thing that we had for the, was it the precinct captains during the election?

00:47:32.000 No, the big red cowboy hat one.

00:47:34.000 That was great.

00:47:35.000 Yeah, I know, but it was like the MAGA version of it.

00:47:38.000 And then, do we have an Andrew one?

00:47:40.000 Did we finish that?

00:47:42.000 All right, we have executive producer Andrew.

00:47:45.000 Oh, there you go.

00:47:46.000 Got a Dodgers hat.

00:47:48.000 Is that a Tesla at the bottom?

00:47:51.000 He's very proud of that Tesla, yeah.

00:47:54.000 And then I think that's all we made.

00:47:56.000 I don't think we made any other.

00:47:57.000 Oh, dude, I can't do that.

00:47:58.000 I can't do that.

00:47:59.000 I can't do it.

00:48:00.000 Nope. What?

00:48:04.000 I can't do eating sounds.

00:48:06.000 I can't do it.

00:48:07.000 Oh, it's the Lashens?

00:48:09.000 No, I can't do it.

00:48:12.000 I thought you were having a negative reaction to my action figure.

00:48:17.000 I'll put this aside.

00:48:18.000 Hold on.

00:48:19.000 Time out.

00:48:20.000 Time out, Jack.

00:48:21.000 I totally get you.

00:48:22.000 You gotta put that away.

00:48:23.000 I did.

00:48:24.000 Okay. You guys keep talking.

00:48:26.000 You got it.

00:48:28.000 What is that?

00:48:29.000 Is that a Guns N' Roses shirt?

00:48:31.000 Oh, your action figure?

00:48:33.000 I'm not sure.

00:48:34.000 What's that on the top right?

00:48:37.000 I can't tell.

00:48:38.000 Oh, man.

00:48:39.000 My stuff is all tiny.

00:48:40.000 Oh, it's the attachable beard.

00:48:42.000 Yeah. You can have attachable or detachable beard on my face to reflect what level of unkemptness I am, which probably gets down to what phase of the election cycle that we're in.

00:48:55.000 Sorry about that.

00:48:56.000 Charlie, what were you about to say?

00:48:57.000 Let's go into that.

00:48:58.000 No, it's fine.

00:48:59.000 I'm on a super delay.

00:48:59.000 It's all good.

00:49:00.000 No, I was just saying how Jack reacted to this lozenge.

00:49:03.000 is how I reacted secondhand smoking marijuana for two hours yesterday with Bill Maher, of which you will see the fruit on Monday.

00:49:12.000 And so the only thing is I was not able to act the way Jack just did.

00:49:16.000 I had to still do a two-hour podcast while secondhand smoking marijuana.

00:49:22.000 All respect to you, Jack.

00:49:23.000 I put the lozenge aside, and I will finish it once we are done here.

00:49:27.000 So totally good.

00:49:28.000 Charlie's still hot.

00:49:29.000 Oh, no, no.

00:49:29.000 It's okay.

00:49:30.000 I've got my IFB separated, so I don't think I can hear it now.

00:49:35.000 No, he took it out.

00:49:36.000 But now I have the greatest answer if they ask if I ever have smoked marijuana.

00:49:41.000 I'm like, well, kind of.

00:49:43.000 I kind of have, and I really don't like it.

00:49:47.000 What was it like?

00:49:48.000 How did it make you feel?

00:49:49.000 I've also never used it.

00:49:51.000 Um, it's not even spacey, but slow.

00:49:56.000 That's the, again, it was not a firsthand thing, but I'm very in touch with how I feel.

00:50:01.000 Andrew will tell you that.

00:50:02.000 If I'm feeling off, if I need something, if I'm hydrated, I mean, I know myself very well, which by the way is very good advice for everyone listening.

00:50:10.000 Know yourself.

00:50:11.000 Know when you need sleep, know when you need a nap.

00:50:13.000 I'm very in touch with myself.

00:50:15.000 And I remember as Bill Maher is on his like seventh thing, cigarillo or whatever of weed.

00:50:21.000 I think to myself, I'm not thinking as quickly as I would like.

00:50:25.000 I remember actually thinking that in my head.

00:50:29.000 I noticed it too.

00:50:30.000 I was in another room watching it.

00:50:32.000 I was literally being hotboxed with Bill Maher.

00:50:35.000 For the record, hotboxed.

00:50:37.000 The whole place was baked.

00:50:41.000 Again, I did fine.

00:50:43.000 It wasn't like a triumph.

00:50:44.000 It wasn't a bad thing.

00:50:45.000 We had a good conversation.

00:50:46.000 I didn't say anything that I didn't believe.

00:50:48.000 It wasn't like it made me schizophrenic.

00:50:50.000 But I know when I'm, like, cooking.

00:50:53.000 And I know when I'm, like, in the flow.

00:50:55.000 And I am, I mean, I am so close to Bill Maher that the federal regulations of airlines would not allow seats to be this close together.

00:51:05.000 Okay? Like, I am, like, in his lap.

00:51:07.000 Just to give you an idea.

00:51:08.000 I mean, we are...

00:51:10.000 We are, like, overlapping one another.

00:51:12.000 Go ahead, Andrew.

00:51:13.000 No, I just want to have your back here, man.

00:51:16.000 Because, like, I don't know how much I should go into, but...

00:51:21.000 Not yet.

00:51:22.000 We'll do a Hall's Thoughtcrime on this next week.

00:51:24.000 I'm just saying, though, that as a little foreshadowing of that, I'm not even saying...

00:51:28.000 Listen, I'm not even saying that it's an excuse.

00:51:32.000 The way I look at it, it's like, hey, it's the snowball, but this time it will be called the weed bowl.

00:51:36.000 Remember Tom Brady?

00:51:37.000 You know, he had the snow game where he had just...

00:51:39.000 You just had to win it.

00:51:40.000 This will be known as the weed bowl, where you just got to sometimes...

00:51:44.000 Jordan, the flu game.

00:51:50.000 Jordan, the flu game.

00:51:53.000 No, I now have the weed moment where I had to calculate in real time.

00:52:01.000 We're going to do a whole episode on this.

00:52:02.000 Probably very slowly in real time.

00:52:06.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:52:08.000 Do I walk away and then I'll just end with this and we'll do a whole episode of this in the future?

00:52:12.000 Or do I just suck it up and see what happens?

00:52:18.000 Okay. Honestly, Charlie.

00:52:20.000 Every time he kept lighting another one, I just was sitting there going, like, oh my gosh, I can't, like, another one?

00:52:28.000 And he would just, every 20 minutes...

00:52:30.000 And he would wave it in front of my face.

00:52:32.000 He'd say...

00:52:34.000 Plumes. Plumes.

00:52:36.000 I know.

00:52:37.000 He'd say, so it's an interesting point there.

00:52:39.000 And by the way, he'd have it in his left hand.

00:52:42.000 So imagine, this is the weed.

00:52:45.000 So, Charlie, what do you think about that?

00:52:54.000 So, actually, I was proud, all things being equal, considering I get sensitive with temperature and smells.

00:53:04.000 In the studio, I'm very temperature, very sensitive.

00:53:07.000 I don't like cigarettes.

00:53:09.000 I can't stand cigar smoke.

00:53:11.000 And I certainly don't like weed.

00:53:14.000 All that to be said, make sure you tune into the episode when it drops.

00:53:19.000 Yep, it was something else.

00:53:21.000 It was something else.

00:53:22.000 You did great, though.

00:53:23.000 They say that high IQ individuals, that high IQ tends to correlate with these types of quirks.

00:53:33.000 So having this issue with smell or having an issue with...

00:53:39.000 Oh, totally.

00:53:41.000 Just random sensory things that wouldn't bother the average person.

00:53:46.000 They also say that it correlates with creativity, actually.

00:53:50.000 Look, I don't know my exact IQ.

00:53:52.000 I know it's tested not as young and it's high.

00:53:54.000 Not as high as Blake's, I'm sure, but...

00:53:56.000 I also have a very big issue with sound.

00:53:58.000 Like, if there's, like, background noise, it drives me crazy if I'm trying to focus on something.

00:54:02.000 Anyway, all that to say, no excuses.

00:54:04.000 You gotta play hurt.

00:54:04.000 You gotta play with the flu.

00:54:05.000 You gotta play with the snow.

00:54:06.000 You gotta play outdoors.

00:54:07.000 And sometimes you gotta suck it up and just go through Bill Maher's weed for nothing else.

00:54:12.000 Nothing less.

00:54:12.000 It makes a pretty cool story.

00:54:14.000 Wait, wait, wait.

00:54:15.000 You don't like background noise?

00:54:16.000 No, no, no.

00:54:17.000 Hold on.

00:54:17.000 I don't like chaotic background noise.

00:54:19.000 It's very different.

00:54:20.000 I like if there's a sound machine or if there's something that I have invited that has rhythmic consistency.

00:54:27.000 Legit. Classical music.

00:54:29.000 Plain. Great.

00:54:30.000 Classical music.

00:54:31.000 But I don't like chaos.

00:54:34.000 Let me give you a great example.

00:54:35.000 If I'm eating at a restaurant and someone is nearby and they have a conversation of which they're talking about something and their opinion is stupid.

00:54:44.000 That is incredibly distracting.

00:54:46.000 If they're next to me and they're like, that Trump guy is trying to renegotiate the trade deals.

00:54:52.000 I'm actually listening more to the conversation behind me than I am to the person in front of me.

00:54:58.000 Very hard.

00:54:58.000 Very hard to turn off.

00:54:59.000 You don't want my brain.

00:55:01.000 And you don't want my brain on weed.

00:55:02.000 I'm telling you right now.

00:55:03.000 You don't want either of those things.

00:55:05.000 What about just in general?

00:55:06.000 What if you're in a movie and someone's talking the whole time?

00:55:10.000 Oh, no, no, no.

00:55:11.000 That should be El Salvadorian exportation. 0.82

00:55:15.000 We should have a conversation about that.

00:55:18.000 Yes. I'm kidding.

00:55:20.000 I'm kidding.

00:55:22.000 Wait, we have to play one more video here, guys.

00:55:24.000 And then we got to run.

00:55:26.000 All right.

00:55:26.000 So this is the AI Baron Trump singing at American Idol.

00:55:31.000 This is our AI slap.

00:55:32.000 So the action figures were all lead up into this, Charlie.

00:55:36.000 337. What?

00:55:44.000 This has millions of views on like YouTube and TikTok.

00:55:47.000 *laughing*

00:55:52.000 Do people believe this is real?

00:55:55.000 Yes. Yes.

00:55:57.000 Millions of people.

00:55:57.000 Yes. Mindlessly.

00:56:01.000 The lips aren't even legit.

00:56:03.000 There's a whole genre piece.

00:56:06.000 Like, Barron, there's America's Got Talent.

00:56:08.000 This is actually a good song, though.

00:56:11.000 This song is awful.

00:56:12.000 This is a lot better than the Beyoncé country music album.

00:56:15.000 If anyone ever plays country music voluntarily, I leave.

00:56:18.000 Actually, my family and I left a restaurant recently because they were playing country music.

00:56:22.000 I said, I'm not going to pay.

00:56:23.000 This is ridiculous.

00:56:24.000 So we love it.

00:56:24.000 Like, I...

00:56:37.000 By the end, the lips don't even line up with the audio.

00:56:42.000 But the sad truth is it doesn't matter.

00:56:45.000 If you go on Facebook, it's a wasteland of this.

00:56:48.000 There are entire pages that are just AI-generated stories, AI-generated videos, AI-generated audio.

00:56:57.000 And you'll get hundreds, thousands, you know, with like the, you know, the prayer emoji and some hearts and oh my God, God bless our president and all of that.

00:57:06.000 I'm just going to say this.

00:57:07.000 I'm just going to say this.

00:57:08.000 Like, I love my dad.

00:57:10.000 My dad's my hero.

00:57:11.000 But I've noticed with like him and his friends, like they, he'll run it by me, but he'll be like, is this real?

00:57:18.000 Is this real?

00:57:20.000 For like all this kind of stuff.

00:57:22.000 And it's like.

00:57:23.000 It's kind of funny because it's like, for those of us who sort of grew up on the internet or, you know, got introduced to it, whatever, that we kind of have this general disassociation with the, like, knowing what something's real and something's not,

00:57:40.000 or, you know, meme culture, you know, you know it's not real.

00:57:44.000 But for certain types of people, you know, they're just so used to, like, I see it, therefore I believe it.

00:57:51.000 And there's never that extra step of like, oh, I don't think that's real.

00:57:56.000 And unfortunately, the way the algorithms work now, yes, my action figure is 100% real, by the way, made not in America, but also not in China.

00:58:06.000 They are 100% made in El Salvador, actually at the prison itself by the prisoners.

00:58:14.000 It is, in fact, their punishment to have to make Jack Posobiec action figures for a certain subset.

00:58:21.000 And, of course, we're going to be working on Charlie Kirk.

00:58:24.000 Funny enough.

00:58:25.000 A lot of the older women really want the Blake Neff action figure. 1.00

00:58:29.000 I don't understand why.

00:58:30.000 We should sell these.

00:58:31.000 We should totally sell these.

00:58:33.000 It'll be like a sell-off.

00:58:35.000 Bukele just retweeted me, so I'm going to hit him up.

00:58:37.000 I'm going to see if we can get a little product line going.

00:58:40.000 Yeah, let's give him the URL to these.

00:58:44.000 The Charlie Kirk with the arms out is pretty good.

00:58:46.000 Charlie's impressive because the way the arms are angled, I kind of think that one's probably got more of those points of movement.

00:58:52.000 It's one of those advanced action figures where you can bend the wrists and the elbows and you've got a full ball and socket joint in the shoulders.

00:59:00.000 You could get some real action poses with Charlie as he saves America.

00:59:03.000 Whereas Jack and I, it's probably just like you can move the arm up like this to wave to people or something.

00:59:09.000 Yeah, we're like the old Star Wars action figures where you could just move the arms up and down.

00:59:13.000 And that's about it.

00:59:14.000 Yeah. The team literally wouldn't show me mine before the show.

00:59:18.000 And I was like, why are you not showing me mine?

00:59:22.000 I guess they're really proud of this one.

00:59:24.000 I do have denim shirts.

00:59:26.000 I don't have that Tesla.

00:59:28.000 Yeah, it's not the right model of Tesla.

00:59:29.000 But, you know, it's hard.

00:59:30.000 It's not the right model.

00:59:31.000 That Tesla, he says.

00:59:33.000 I don't have that one.

00:59:34.000 I haven't.

00:59:35.000 Yeah, it's not the right one.

00:59:36.000 But that's funny.

00:59:38.000 Yeah. Okay.

00:59:39.000 I mean, it looks a lot like...

00:59:41.000 All right, gang.

00:59:41.000 I gotta run.

00:59:43.000 All right, Jack, I'm going to put this lozenge back in my mouth.

00:59:46.000 And with that, I'll say this lozenge will not make me feel like I felt yesterday.

00:59:53.000 Don't do weed.

00:59:55.000 And definitely don't do weed if you have a two-hour podcast of high consequence with a comedian who doesn't believe in God and is a liberal.

01:00:03.000 However, with that being said, keep committing thought crimes.

01:00:07.000 Happy Easter.

01:00:08.000 He is risen.

01:00:09.000 God bless.

01:00:09.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

01:00:11.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - April 19, 2025

THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 80 — Karmelo Anthony "Race War?" AI Action Figures? Charlie Gets High?

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