The Charlie Kirk Show - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 81 — Money For Moms? Dark Woke? AI Factories?

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00:01:19.000 Thursday, we are here with Blake, with Tyler, and is Jack in the community?

00:01:27.000 Yes, he is.

00:01:28.000 The community?

00:01:28.000 What community is that?

00:01:29.000 This is the community of thought criminals.

00:01:31.000 The Maryland man community. 0.92

00:01:32.000 The community of thought criminals.

00:01:34.000 Everyone's a community now.

00:01:35.000 You get a community and you get a community!

00:01:37.000 That sounds like a League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.

00:01:41.000 So we now know the community of thought criminals.

00:01:43.000 Yes.

00:01:43.000 It's great.

00:01:44.000 We see this with intelligence community.

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00:01:48.000 We need to get deeper into that.

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00:01:58.000 Everything's a community now.

00:01:59.000 What is our first topic?

00:02:00.000 Our first topic is baby bonuses, Charlie.

00:02:04.000 So this came up earlier this week.

00:02:07.000 It's sort of just reporting on different...

00:02:09.000 Rumors and ideas under consideration in the White House, but basically the White House is considering how do we encourage people to have children?

00:02:17.000 How do we raise America's average number of kids per family? 0.78

00:02:20.000 And one of the ideas that was thrown out was to have a $5,000 baby bonus for every American mother after she gives birth.

00:02:29.000 They asked Trump about it on Tuesday and he responded, sounds like a good idea to me.

00:02:35.000 But is it a good idea, Charlie?

00:02:37.000 I don't know.

00:02:39.000 Jack, what do you think?

00:02:40.000 So yeah, this is one of those things where, you know, it's been tried in Poland.

00:02:44.000 It's been tried in Hungary.

00:02:46.000 I want to say other parts of Asia may have tried this.

00:02:50.000 And it's really seen limited success.

00:02:54.000 There's still been issues with the birth rates in many of these countries.

00:02:58.000 And also, you know, I'm just going to say it, America has more of an issue.

00:03:04.000 With, you know, sort of the baby mama syndrome than some of these other, you know, Eastern European countries do.

00:03:10.000 And I worry that if you don't put the right kind of conditions on something like this, then you just kind of create that situation all over again.

00:03:20.000 Yeah, so I think Hungary has actually stabilized the decline, if I'm not mistaken.

00:03:25.000 It's gone up, so I'm looking at the numbers right in front of me right now.

00:03:28.000 They spend, I think, 7% of GDP on pro-family policy.

00:03:34.000 I mean, it's an extraordinary investment.

00:03:36.000 They measure it.

00:03:36.000 They have a whole bureau of it in Hungary.

00:03:38.000 It is a robust martial plan.

00:03:42.000 And there's playgrounds everywhere.

00:03:43.000 When you go around in Budapest, it's like every corner there's a new playground or something's going on, and they have kids' sections in the restaurant in Poland as well.

00:03:52.000 It's amazing to see what a pro-family country, like a pro-child country, actually looks like.

00:03:57.000 And then you start asking questions about ourselves.

00:03:59.000 Like, wait a minute.

00:04:01.000 Is our country pro-family or are we actually kind of like an anti-child country?

00:04:06.000 And because in many ways, we don't make accommodations for children in this country.

00:04:10.000 Now, what I would like to flag, though, is...

00:04:13.000 So, I'm looking at...

00:04:13.000 I just sent you a chart.

00:04:14.000 You guys a chart.

00:04:15.000 So, we've got...

00:04:16.000 I just plugged in Hungary fertility rate. 1.00

00:04:18.000 Fertility rate is average number of births per woman.

00:04:21.000 And it auto-generated with the magic of AI.

00:04:23.000 It gave us a chart for Hungary.

00:04:24.000 It gave us one for Poland.

00:04:26.000 And it gave us one for Czechia, the Czech Republic.

00:04:29.000 And it's worth looking at this where Hungary is actually...

00:04:34.000 So they bottomed out in 2010 at about 1.23.

00:04:39.000 That's very low.

00:04:40.000 And they've raised it.

00:04:41.000 They got it up to about 1.61 right when COVID hit.

00:04:43.000 And it dropped off to 1.52 in 2020.

00:04:45.000 There's some fluctuation.

00:04:47.000 It's a slight increase.

00:04:47.000 It has gone up, but it's worth flagging...

00:04:49.000 But they stopped the decrease.

00:04:50.000 Yeah, but it's worth flagging...

00:04:51.000 They're consistently, over the past decade, they're consistently behind Czechia.

00:04:55.000 And that's an interesting comparison because the Czechs are one of the least religious 1.00

00:04:59.000 Do they have Muslims? 0.97

00:05:05.000 They have Vietnamese, a few of them.

00:05:08.000 Yeah, it's an old communist Cold War thing.

00:05:10.000 They brought in North Vietnamese through an exchange program.

00:05:13.000 So you find these Vietnamese markets in the Czech Republic.

00:05:17.000 But so they just they have consistently been a bit ahead and they follow a very similar pattern, which is worth flagging.

00:05:24.000 They bottom out around the same point.

00:05:26.000 They similarly have a bit of a rise in the 2010s, and then they similarly fall right after COVID hits.

00:05:32.000 So Hungary did reverse their decline, but it's also worth saying, did they reverse the decline because of their policies, or is there a wider social thing going on?

00:05:43.000 I'm not sure if they border them, but they're very close to the Czechs, and culturally, historically, they have a lot of similar inputs going into that, and they're following a pretty similar pattern.

00:05:52.000 And I think with the 5,000 baby bonus, you kind of run into what I think is the reality, which is you can do things to encourage bigger families, but the stuff that you can do that would actually work, it's not within the Overton window of what a democracy could do.

00:06:08.000 If you gave women a million dollars per birth, just had a nationwide Elon Musk policy, it'd probably work. 1.00

00:06:15.000 But we couldn't do that.

00:06:17.000 Hungary has new things they've done, too.

00:06:18.000 You know they have no income tax at all for any woman that has babies? 0.91

00:06:21.000 If you have more than three kids, I think you pay no tax for the rest of your life.

00:06:24.000 You should do that.

00:06:26.000 We should do that.

00:06:27.000 We just have to cut spending.

00:06:28.000 Well, okay.

00:06:31.000 I'm just saying, you know, you're going to get different.

00:06:34.000 You're going to get different outcomes than Hungary will. 0.99

00:06:36.000 Well, yeah, you're going to get different outcomes.

00:06:38.000 But here's what I think.

00:06:40.000 I think we should do things that are pro.

00:06:43.000 We talked about this before.

00:06:45.000 I think maybe on here it was talking about getting rid of taxes on costs for moms. 0.84

00:06:52.000 So diapers, things like that.

00:06:54.000 I think that's been proposed.

00:06:56.000 I'm not mistaken.

00:06:57.000 But that type of work, too, is like, I mean, there's things that you can do in addition to a bonus, the baby bonus, just like straight cash.

00:07:04.000 Because I think the straight cash, I don't know if there's anyone that's done extensive research on that.

00:07:10.000 But the street cash does seem like it's a really bad idea.

00:07:12.000 Yeah, well, and it's kind of the line is $5,000.

00:07:16.000 Like, you think, who is the person you're envisioning who is tipped into having an additional kid by a one-time bonus of $5,000?

00:07:25.000 And to be blunt, it's probably not the sort of kids that we need to have more of.

00:07:32.000 Because what's really hollowing out in the U.S. and what's really driving the birth rate down is...

00:07:37.000 People who are in what you might say like the responsible middle class are the ones who feel the most constricted about having kids.

00:07:44.000 People on the lowest end somewhat impulsively have kids and they don't work terribly hard at raising them.

00:07:51.000 And people who are very, very high income, making multiple millions of dollars a year, can effectively afford to have as many kids as they want.

00:07:57.000 And they actually do have more kids as a result.

00:07:59.000 But I think the absolute rock bottom of fertility, the people who have the lowest number of kids, are people who are maybe 75th, 80th percentile in income, where they're the ones who care a lot about having kids responsibly.

00:08:14.000 Okay, don't...

00:08:16.000 Don't have kids until you get married and make sure you can give each of them the lifestyle that you think a kid should have and you can give them the proper amount of resources.

00:08:24.000 Those are the ones who are at absolute rock bottom.

00:08:27.000 Those are the ones who you would want presumably to raise the most to because those are the kids who kind of make your country able to succeed.

00:08:35.000 It is a problem in America if the upper middle class specifically cannot reproduce itself.

00:08:41.000 If it's going extinct, you are burning up the human capital of your country when people who make the best parents, probably, are not having kids anymore.

00:08:51.000 I mean, I do respect, first of all, President Trump embracing this because we should want another baby boom. 1.00

00:08:57.000 I want to just read off some things, though, to defend Hungary, though.

00:09:01.000 Abortions went down 41% since their pro-family policy, 41%.

00:09:05.000 That's a big deal.

00:09:06.000 Marriage rates nearly doubled since 2010.

00:09:09.000 The fertility rate was at its lowest at 1.23, you're right.

00:09:13.000 Then it's about 1.5, but it's still below replacement level.

00:09:15.000 So we'll see if it can climb up there.

00:09:18.000 Overall, I think something should be tried because we are seeing a massive population collapse, a fertility crisis in the West.

00:09:27.000 Does anyone else have any other ideas?

00:09:29.000 So one thing that's interesting, a country that's not a democracy...

00:09:34.000 China, actually.

00:09:35.000 So China's famous for the one-child policy.

00:09:37.000 The one-child policy is dead.

00:09:39.000 It has been for a while.

00:09:40.000 So for a long time, the assumption of Chinese authorities was, okay, we had this one-child policy because we were overpopulated.

00:09:45.000 You had to get the birth rate down, they believed.

00:09:48.000 And so they thought, oh, as soon as we get rid of this, it'll just come back, is what they thought.

00:09:54.000 And what made them freak out is they started dialing back the one-child policy, and there was no rise.

00:10:00.000 There was no actual increase in childbirths.

00:10:02.000 Instead, they looked over, and they were following the same path as South Korea, where South Korea is at 0.7.

00:10:08.000 You're talking Koreans ceasing to exist as an ethnic group in 100 years at that sort of birth rate.

00:10:15.000 And so China is also introducing a lot of stuff to encourage this, and they're not a democracy, so they can be more aggressive.

00:10:22.000 And you see things like you just have the government come out and really...

00:10:29.000 We're going to promote this marriage and childbirth culture. 1.00

00:10:33.000 And they're also targeting things.

00:10:36.000 One thing we've noticed in the West is people aren't pairing off as easily.

00:10:39.000 People aren't going out.

00:10:40.000 They're not meeting people as much.

00:10:42.000 So China does things like they say...

00:10:44.000 Kids are staying inside and they're playing too many video games.

00:10:47.000 Okay, we're going to make it so kids can only play video games for three designated hours of the week.

00:10:53.000 I don't know how strictly it's enforced, but in 2021 they had a law where if you're under 18, I think, basically you could do it, I'm not sure the exact time, but it was one hour on Friday night, one hour on Saturday, one hour on Sunday night.

00:11:06.000 And that's when you're allowed to play online video games in China if you're not an adult.

00:11:10.000 They had a huge video game addiction problem in China, too.

00:11:15.000 This was something where they even had rehab centers where families could send their kids because they were too addicted to online games.

00:11:24.000 And I don't mean like you're playing on your phone a little bit.

00:11:27.000 Kids would die in South Korea. 0.99

00:11:29.000 There were kids that would literally die from malnourishment.

00:11:33.000 So it's really interesting.

00:11:35.000 I looked this up.

00:11:36.000 What do you guys think the birth rate, the fertility rate for white women in America is?

00:11:42.000 The nationwide one is like 1.6, I think.

00:11:46.000 So I'd say probably 1.4.

00:11:50.000 Yeah, it's 1.51, which amazingly is not that far off from Hungary with all of these policies.

00:11:57.000 Yeah.

00:11:58.000 It's actually kind of miraculous.

00:11:59.000 You look at this.

00:12:01.000 Now, Hispanic women by far have the highest fertility rate. 0.99

00:12:04.000 Then black women, then white women. 1.00

00:12:06.000 Is Hispanic like two and a half? 0.83

00:12:09.000 Yeah, so the way that they...

00:12:10.000 This is a separate index, but Hispanic women is 64.4 per 1,000. 1.00

00:12:16.000 I don't really know how they tabulate it.

00:12:18.000 That's like the crude birth rate.

00:12:20.000 Yeah, so the most fertile is Hispanic women. 1.00

00:12:23.000 No surprise there.

00:12:24.000 Then black women, and then white women are basically tied. 1.00

00:12:27.000 And then by far the least, and you had to explain this one, but it goes back, is Asians. 0.96

00:12:32.000 Asians by far have the least amount of kids.

00:12:34.000 Well, Asians are, in the U.S., they're higher income. 0.98

00:12:37.000 They're more urbanized.

00:12:38.000 They're tracking what is happening in Asian countries as well.

00:12:42.000 I remember that, though, in elementary school.

00:12:45.000 I always remember all my Asian friends were only children.

00:12:48.000 Maybe they had a brother or sister.

00:12:51.000 Almost always.

00:12:52.000 It's got to be a cultural thing.

00:12:54.000 I will say, though, just anecdotally, though, I will say that the most, I think that having more kids is coming back in style with the more Christian you are.

00:13:05.000 At least anecdotally, would you agree, Jack, that there is a three-plus push?

00:13:12.000 And maybe, again, full disclosure, I very well might just be around wealthy people that can afford having three, four, five kids, but...

00:13:20.000 Unfortunately, having children has become a luxury item.

00:13:23.000 Let me say it this way.

00:13:24.000 Having more than two kids is a luxury item in America.

00:13:26.000 It is expensive.

00:13:28.000 It's objectively expensive.

00:13:29.000 And it takes a lot of time.

00:13:32.000 But Jack, I am seeing a resurgence where I think that the baby boomers, I'm a child of baby boomers, it was like, I'll have one of each. 1.00

00:13:39.000 Where now it's like, no, I might have two, three, four, or even five.

00:13:43.000 Go ahead.

00:13:44.000 One of the, I guess, thought crimes on this could also be that the...

00:13:48.000 The math for both parents working actually drops off as you increase children, right?

00:13:56.000 So having one kid in daycare, okay, not super expensive.

00:14:00.000 Now all of a sudden you've got two kids in daycare.

00:14:02.000 Now it is getting really expensive.

00:14:04.000 Three kids, four kids.

00:14:05.000 Now wait a minute.

00:14:06.000 You have all these kids in daycare.

00:14:08.000 Suddenly you're spending more on daycare than that second daycare.

00:14:12.000 You know, job that second income for a dual income household actually brings in.

00:14:17.000 So suddenly you're saying, wait, wait a second.

00:14:19.000 Is this sort of like a dual income trap?

00:14:21.000 Because we both want to go out of the house and work, but we're actually not making enough money to have this many kids.

00:14:29.000 Why would we be able to do that if we want to have more kids? 0.99

00:14:33.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:14:33.000 So it actually prevents you from having more kids because of the exorbitant cost of daycare.

00:14:38.000 And so that's why J.D. Vance talked about this at great length during the campaign, as we all know, that that's why to him...

00:14:46.000 Making it so that you could live as a family on a single income would actually help better for family formation because then you've got one parent that can stay home with multiple children.

00:14:59.000 You don't have to put your kids into daycare because it isn't a situation where both parents are forced to work.

00:15:04.000 So for the last 2,000 years, there was an assumption that having children was something that everyone wanted.

00:15:13.000 There was an assumption that...

00:15:15.000 When in reality, it's not true.

00:15:16.000 It's that sex is what everyone would want, that children are actually a value. 0.88

00:15:20.000 You would think that the birth rate would have skyrocketed after COVID.

00:15:23.000 Everyone's sitting at home.

00:15:24.000 The birth rate went down after COVID, amazingly.

00:15:27.000 Having children is a value.

00:15:29.000 If you do not have a worldview...

00:15:30.000 We had a COVID baby.

00:15:31.000 Well, you had one, Jack?

00:15:33.000 We did too.

00:15:34.000 That's awesome.

00:15:34.000 We did have a COVID baby, yep.

00:15:36.000 If you do not have a worldview that prioritizes having children, your society will not have children.

00:15:41.000 Well, I think the biggest thing that would have driven it down during COVID is...

00:15:44.000 Most people have their children probably relatively early in their relationships.

00:15:49.000 They marry, they have their kids, and then 30 years after that, they raise those kids and grow old.

00:15:55.000 And what COVID really did is it exacerbated, I think, the biggest driver of this, which is people are not getting married.

00:16:02.000 People are not meeting each other.

00:16:03.000 People are not pairing off, as it were.

00:16:06.000 No, no, no.

00:16:06.000 Hear me out, though.

00:16:06.000 I'm saying, though, that we did not have a New York City blackout effect.

00:16:10.000 So there's almost a one-to-one, for example, when New York City would have a blackout.

00:16:13.000 Nine months later, there would be a slight increase in the fertility rate, right?

00:16:17.000 That during a blizzard in Chicago, nine months later, you would have a slight increase in the fertility rate.

00:16:22.000 People were locked down amongst one another for about 60 to 90 days minimum, and we saw no increase.

00:16:27.000 Wait, wait, is this why Charlie likes cold showers so much?

00:16:30.000 Charlie, is this why you like cold showers so much?

00:16:32.000 Is there like a connection here?

00:16:33.000 I think there's actually an explanation for that, though, Charlie.

00:16:36.000 Remember when we went through on here and we showed how people meet each other?

00:16:42.000 And because the online dating, there was nowhere for anyone to go.

00:16:45.000 So it used to be you would meet people and other things like that.

00:16:49.000 So now, unfortunately, a single parenthood is so high. 0.65

00:16:55.000 Fertility rates are not accompanied by marriage as much today.

00:17:00.000 You probably didn't have as much of it.

00:17:02.000 If COVID would have happened in the 50s, you probably would have seen a huge spike.

00:17:07.000 Without a doubt.

00:17:08.000 But now it's like people were basically trapped alone because they don't meet and they don't have meaningful relationships anyways.

00:17:16.000 And then plus the entire lobby that prevents pregnancy to begin with. 0.88

00:17:23.000 So will the baby boom work? 1.00

00:17:26.000 You know what's interesting about this, and I always talk about it, is do you guys remember the movie It's a Wonderful Life, like the Christmas movie, you know that one?

00:17:37.000 They go into, like, he, you know, I'm not going to read the whole thing, but it's like they go into the nightmare version of the world if George Bailey had never lived, and he goes into, he says, I want to see my wife, I want to see Mary, and he's being walked through, and it's sort of a Dickensian kind of take on things.

00:17:53.000 And they say, oh, you don't want to see your wife, George, you don't want to see what happened to Mary.

00:17:57.000 And he goes, what happened?

00:17:59.000 I need to see it, I need to see it.

00:18:00.000 And he goes, all right, fine, I'll show you, but it's really bad.

00:18:02.000 And he goes, George...

00:18:04.000 She's a spinster. 1.00

00:18:05.000 She never married.

00:18:06.000 She never had children.

00:18:07.000 She's closing up the local library and she's like in her 30s.

00:18:11.000 And so there's something that's changed in American culture where that was considered nightmarish and like incredibly backwards in the 1940s, you know, during World War Two, essentially.

00:18:27.000 And the word spinster, the idea of social shame around this was seen as a really, really bad outcome.

00:18:35.000 Whereas these days they say, oh, you know, go and get your master's in library affairs, go get your MLA or whatever.

00:18:42.000 And that's considered this great good.

00:18:44.000 And then they tell you to not even have kids.

00:18:47.000 You put off family formation until your 30s, late 30s, etc.

00:18:51.000 And suddenly we wonder why there's low fertility rates.

00:18:55.000 What policies would potentially work?

00:18:57.000 Again, I'm interested in some...

00:18:59.000 I think that if we can...

00:19:00.000 Okay, let's just...

00:19:01.000 If we can radically cut spending, right, then I would be open to the idea to say no income tax if you are married.

00:19:11.000 Now, understand Hungary also says you must remain married.

00:19:15.000 Not just have kids.

00:19:17.000 It is you are...

00:19:18.000 You stay in the marriage.

00:19:19.000 Yes.

00:19:20.000 Like, this is not just like baby mama stuff.

00:19:22.000 I mean, in terms of who we would want...

00:19:23.000 After your third year of marriage, you...

00:19:24.000 You get it.

00:19:25.000 Who we would want to have kids.

00:19:28.000 Imagine if you just radically increased the money, but it had to come with a low time preference for it.

00:19:35.000 We will give you $100,000 for a kid.

00:19:39.000 $150,000.

00:19:40.000 But it will only be five years from now, and you still have to be married.

00:19:44.000 You have to be married to the person when the child is born and married to the same person continuously. 0.79

00:19:48.000 You can't get married.

00:19:50.000 Or how about ten years?

00:19:51.000 Ten years is like a pension.

00:19:53.000 No, a pension.

00:19:54.000 A marriage pension.

00:19:54.000 You get it when you retire.

00:19:56.000 Something like that.

00:19:58.000 You want to actually emphasize giving it to low-time preference people.

00:20:03.000 People who will make good long-term decisions.

00:20:07.000 Because what we've seen is a lot of people have decided that the good long-term decision is not having kids.

00:20:11.000 But ultimately, anything that's reducing it to purely an economic thing, I think, is missing what drives this.

00:20:19.000 A lot of this is just...

00:20:20.000 A cultural value.

00:20:23.000 Man, I'm thinking of just the number of people I know.

00:20:25.000 That's what I'm trying to say with the movies.

00:20:26.000 Yeah, like the number of people I know who only have one kid or two kids basically just because the mom doesn't like having kids as much.

00:20:32.000 They're like, they didn't like being pregnant.

00:20:33.000 They don't want to be pregnant again. 1.00

00:20:35.000 One or two is enough.

00:20:37.000 And it was that gradual, I think it's a gradual transition.

00:20:40.000 I know among Mormons, you'll hear a lot where it's, okay, my grandparents had eight or nine kids apiece, my parents had four to six kids apiece, and now good Mormons are having two to three kids apiece, and maybe the next generation will be having zero to 1.8 kids apiece.

00:20:57.000 And it's that big, it's sort of the breakdown of what your normal environment is.

00:21:03.000 If everyone around you is normally having six kids, the normal thing to do is to have six kids and you see that gradual slide away.

00:21:09.000 So you'd almost have to say like in China where I mentioned where they're doing these things, a lot of what China does is just.

00:21:14.000 The person who has six kids is better than you.

00:21:19.000 The person who has the most kids is a better citizen than you are.

00:21:23.000 And if we're just wildly throwing around ideas that will never happen because we're not allowed to have cool ideas here.

00:21:30.000 You'd almost say, like, what if you could only vote if you were, like, if you are a married couple with a kid, you can vote and also vote your kids' vote, but actually you can't vote if you're just a single person.

00:21:41.000 Oh, you get an extra vote.

00:21:42.000 You get an extra vote.

00:21:43.000 And also, like, if you're not married, you can't vote.

00:21:45.000 Sorry, you're not a full citizen.

00:21:47.000 That would be an idea.

00:21:48.000 I love the extra vote idea.

00:21:49.000 It's sort of like, you know, in that old Heinlein novel, Starship, the actual book Starship Troopers.

00:21:57.000 Service means citizenship.

00:21:58.000 I'd love to see a map.

00:21:59.000 And citizenship requires service, whatever the slogan was.

00:22:02.000 It gets to be like... 0.98

00:22:03.000 Yeah, citizenship requires sex having. 0.99

00:22:07.000 Citizenship requires service, yeah.

00:22:08.000 And we know that married couples always tend to vote more conservative.

00:22:14.000 And certainly when people get older, as they have kids, they do tend to be more conservative.

00:22:20.000 So generally, as a movement, that is something that we should be pushing.

00:22:24.000 And also something that we should be pushing in terms of...

00:22:28.000 The country, we don't want to be a country where we're forced to hollow out our population replacement by replacing them with more immigrants, which is what we've been doing since the 1970s, essentially, and saying, oh, 1.00

00:22:43.000 well, who's going to do these jobs?

00:22:45.000 Let's open the floodgates. 0.99

00:22:46.000 That's created all these other problems, but my GDP go up, my shareholder value go up, and people are all upset about it.

00:22:53.000 This is also because, by the way, we now have a much lower trust.

00:22:59.000 So those social shaming campaigns don't necessarily work as well because we don't have a society that generally trusts the government and the institutions.

00:23:09.000 This is something that people attack us for all the time.

00:23:12.000 They say we are the cause of it, but no, we're not the cause of that.

00:23:17.000 Society is the cause of that.

00:23:19.000 That's why people don't trust anything.

00:23:20.000 That's why I don't trust institutions anymore.

00:23:22.000 And when you do have that more of a low-trust society, then guess what?

00:23:26.000 You're gonna have less kids.

00:23:29.000 Although, if I remember correctly, there is, and Blake, you probably know better than me, isn't there a correlation between birth rates going up and, like, warfare?

00:23:39.000 Probably historically.

00:23:40.000 I'm not sure about more recently.

00:23:44.000 Like, definitely that's an argument.

00:23:45.000 It's definitely an argument for why, for example, Israel has a notably high fertility rate.

00:23:50.000 I think they're still above three.

00:23:52.000 And some of that is they have ultra-Orthodox, but it's not just that.

00:23:55.000 Secular Jews have a high birth rate.

00:23:57.000 So let me ask you guys a question.

00:23:58.000 In the families where, let's just say, there's not as many kids, do you think the father wants more kids and the mom doesn't?

00:24:09.000 In my experience, the dad or the father kind of does want more kids, but obviously respects that it's both decisions.

00:24:16.000 The point being is, is motherhood a virtue that women care about anymore? 1.00

00:24:20.000 I can't say I don't.

00:24:22.000 It depends.

00:24:23.000 I've definitely seen the example of dad wants more and mom puts brakes on it, but I know more men than women. 0.89

00:24:30.000 I think that's a majority of the case.

00:24:33.000 And again, it's obviously both their decision.

00:24:36.000 I'm not even criticizing it.

00:24:38.000 But I hear from women on campus. 1.00

00:24:41.000 That's a better way.

00:24:42.000 Let me address it that way.

00:24:44.000 Women on campus think that motherhood is a great burden. 1.00

00:24:47.000 They think that if I have to go through it to get my genes, fine, continuing.

00:24:53.000 But it's really awful and it's really terrible.

00:24:56.000 Whereas the prior generation looked at it as something, not just something that they really should do to continue the species, but they get to do.

00:25:06.000 And there's a lot of reasons for that.

00:25:11.000 And I don't know.

00:25:12.000 I just think that...

00:25:14.000 Women right now think very negatively about pregnancy, and they think very negatively about motherhood.

00:25:18.000 Well, based off the outcomes that we've seen with the recent elections and the polling that's happening, that has to go hand in hand.

00:25:25.000 We look at white, middle-class, college-educated women have shifted so far left, and we know what their viewpoints are on family.

00:25:36.000 We know what their viewpoints are on...

00:25:39.000 You know, feminism. 1.00

00:25:40.000 We know what their viewpoints are on sexuality.

00:25:42.000 We know what their viewpoints are on conservative ideals, on religion.

00:25:47.000 They have to go hand in hand.

00:25:48.000 And so I think that's what's becoming more transparent in politics today is now that we're seeing very clearly, it's like, well, you know, if things are going wrong in America, you know, it's probably that one outlier category.

00:26:00.000 and the one outlier category that exists on every poll today is that it's white college-educated women are the ones that are so far distant from every single other category. 1.00

00:26:13.000 Even like...

00:26:14.000 Black females are closer to white men on ideology than white women are to white men on ideology. 0.99

00:26:23.000 That's crazy.

00:26:24.000 That alone is the thing that we probably don't talk about enough in reviewing the election and everything else.

00:26:32.000 That has a cultural effect that's so bad for...

00:26:36.000 I think white relationships.

00:26:38.000 And when you talk about Caucasian relationships in the United States, that's the fracturing of society. 1.00

00:26:43.000 And it would be no different than in a majority black community in Africa having such separation between female and males on something. 0.64

00:26:55.000 But we're talking about a complete ideological split between males and females happening in America right now that are white.

00:27:02.000 And so you cannot expect, I completely agree with you, I think it's men probably, not probably, are for sure the likely side that wants to have more kids than women because of the direction they're going.

00:27:16.000 You know one of the biggest lies being sold to American people right now is that you're in control of your money, especially when it comes to crypto.

00:27:22.000 But the truth, most of these so-called crypto platforms are just banks in disguise, fully capable of freezing your assets the moment some bureaucrat makes a phone call.

00:27:31.000 That is not what Bitcoin was built for.

00:27:33.000 That's why I use Bitcoin.com.

00:27:35.000 I just did a major transaction on it.

00:27:37.000 They offer a self-custodial wallet, which means you hold the keys.

00:27:41.000 You control your assets.

00:27:43.000 No one can touch your crypto.

00:27:44.000 Not the IRS or not a rogue bank.

00:27:47.000 Not some three-letter agency that thinks it knows better than you do.

00:27:50.000 This is how it was intended by the original creators of Bitcoin.

00:27:53.000 Peer-to-peer money, free from centralized control, free from surveillance, and free from arbitrary seizure.

00:27:59.000 So if you're serious about financial sovereignty, go to Bitcoin.com, set up your wallet, take back control, because if you don't hold the keys, you don't own your money.

00:28:07.000 Bitcoin.com.

00:28:08.000 Freedom starts here.

00:28:11.000 Let's go to the next topic.

00:28:13.000 Ah, how about the trolley problem?

00:28:15.000 We had very strong discussions of that.

00:28:17.000 This is a video out of Oakland.

00:28:18.000 Or do we want to talk about White Woke? 0.76

00:28:20.000 We could do one of those.

00:28:21.000 Do White Woke.

00:28:22.000 Oh, Dark Woke.

00:28:23.000 Dark Woke.

00:28:26.000 So, Dark Woke is the new neologism.

00:28:30.000 We discussed this on the show today.

00:28:31.000 So, it's basically they're like, these are your old Democrats.

00:28:37.000 These new Democrats are edgy and provocative and they say not nice things.

00:28:42.000 They are Dark Woke.

00:28:45.000 Yeah, this is their new wrinkle.

00:28:48.000 Yes, and so, like, the tape...

00:28:50.000 Let's play the tape here.

00:28:51.000 This is a new montage of Democrats embracing Dark Woke.

00:28:54.000 Play cut 289.

00:28:55.000 This is what kicking out of fascism looks like. 0.90

00:29:00.000 I think I could kick most of the... 0.95

00:29:01.000 I do think that. 0.99

00:29:03.000 Somebody slap me and wake me...

00:29:05.000 Because I'm ready to get on with it. 0.93

00:29:07.000 Total bull...

00:29:09.000 Absolute bull...

00:29:11.000 Once you get successful, don't be a greedy...

00:29:15.000 Pay your taxes.

00:29:16.000 If you could speak directly to Elon Musk, what would you say?

00:29:19.000 I guess dark woke is just that Democrats say swear words.

00:29:22.000 Just swearing all the time.

00:29:22.000 They said swear words before.

00:29:23.000 I guess they're just cursing.

00:29:25.000 Yeah.

00:29:25.000 They're literally just cursing.

00:29:27.000 That's all it is.

00:29:28.000 Okay, so we'll read from the New York Times articles.

00:29:30.000 This is the New York Times article.

00:29:31.000 This came out earlier this week.

00:29:34.000 And so this is one of the takes from Baviq Latia, a communications consultant with the Wisconsin Democrat Party.

00:29:40.000 Republicans have essentially put Democrats in a respectability prison.

00:29:45.000 There is an extreme imbalance in strategy that allows Republicans to say stuff that really...

00:29:50.000 I see this as a strategic shift within Democratic messaging.

00:29:59.000 I'm a big fan of Dark Woke.

00:30:03.000 And so is this like a playoff of Dark Brandon or something?

00:30:06.000 Or like Dark MAGA?

00:30:07.000 So Dark Brandon came out of Dark MAGA.

00:30:09.000 Please keep doing this.

00:30:10.000 I read it was a Dark Brandon.

00:30:11.000 Dark Brandon came after Dark MAGA, though.

00:30:14.000 So I think what they're trying to...

00:30:16.000 And I said this on the show.

00:30:17.000 They think that if they act kind of more like Trumpy, they're going to be okay.

00:30:21.000 But the laws of Trump do not apply to other people.

00:30:23.000 Yeah.

00:30:23.000 And I'm not even sure if the particular weird dark stuff has ever worked.

00:30:28.000 We were around in 2022.

00:30:29.000 There was Dark MAGA stuff.

00:30:30.000 And it didn't...

00:30:32.000 And as strongly as we kind of thought it would.

00:30:34.000 No, not at all.

00:30:35.000 Charlie, we're seeing this online.

00:30:36.000 So our team is actually seeing where the left is pushing Bernie Sanders and AOC as populists.

00:30:45.000 I've been predicting this the whole time.

00:30:47.000 So we're seeing this in multiple places.

00:30:49.000 Yesterday, actually, one of our staffers got in a debate with somebody about whether or not...

00:30:55.000 I can't remember where it was, but somebody posted, like, this is our brand of populism.

00:31:01.000 So I'll just admit, I just feel like I, like, this is one of those things where, do you ever feel now that you're over 30 that, like, you realize there's no new news stories?

00:31:11.000 Yeah, it's just kind of all repurposed.

00:31:12.000 So they're like, wow, the Democrats, like, now this new generation of Democrats, they're not afraid to be nasty.

00:31:18.000 Okay, in 2017, there was this whole pattern where they would go and find Trump admin officials in restaurants and scream at them until they had to leave.

00:31:27.000 Remember Sarah Huckabee Sanders at the chicken restaurant? 0.97

00:31:28.000 Yeah, it happened to her and it happened to a few others.

00:31:30.000 I think Ted Cruz got chased out of the restaurant.

00:31:32.000 I remember.

00:31:33.000 Was one of them a regular restaurant?

00:31:34.000 I remember.

00:31:34.000 I got chased out of Pennsylvania last year.

00:31:37.000 That was before everyone.

00:31:39.000 Tyler and I got chased out of a breakfast restaurant in Philadelphia with Candace Owens by Antifa at 7 a.m.

00:31:45.000 By the way, that's a...

00:31:45.000 What breakfast restaurant?

00:31:47.000 You know what?

00:31:47.000 I need to think.

00:31:48.000 It was really good, by the way.

00:31:49.000 It wasn't good.

00:31:50.000 Yeah, we had to leave our breakfast.

00:31:51.000 I know.

00:31:52.000 This is incredible.

00:31:52.000 Tyler had waffles or something.

00:31:54.000 I always eat waffles at that point in my life.

00:31:56.000 Admittedly, it's never happened to me.

00:31:58.000 I sometimes would visualize this.

00:32:00.000 When I was with Tucker, I was like, okay, what if I'm with Tucker and this happens?

00:32:03.000 The story was really funny.

00:32:04.000 I would just refuse to leave.

00:32:06.000 I would be like, I'm not leaving.

00:32:07.000 No, we did at first.

00:32:08.000 It became this whole thing.

00:32:09.000 Well, the funny part about this was this was like, you know, Candace had just barely become like kind of had some notoriety post the Kanye stuff.

00:32:18.000 So like nobody it wasn't like she was like a known household name at that point.

00:32:23.000 But what had happened was the place that we picked just happened.

00:32:26.000 It's Philadelphia, right?

00:32:27.000 It was at the end of their anti-police protest.

00:32:29.000 It was.

00:32:30.000 Yeah, they were just happened to rally Antifa like right outside our window.

00:32:33.000 And they were ending an all night.

00:32:35.000 They turned around and we're just like there.

00:32:37.000 They're like, wait, that's.

00:32:39.000 I think that's Charlie Craig.

00:32:40.000 You can see them looking it up on their phones.

00:32:42.000 They couldn't believe their luck that we happen to be eating breakfast right there.

00:32:49.000 It was Green Eggs Cafe.

00:32:51.000 Green Eggs Cafe, that's right.

00:32:52.000 By the way, I'm going back to Philadelphia, I think, later this week.

00:32:56.000 I have to stop by there.

00:32:57.000 I might go back.

00:32:57.000 That was a really good place.

00:32:59.000 Green Eggs Cafe on Locust.

00:33:01.000 I think they have a couple of them.

00:33:02.000 Those poor people were like, they were so nice.

00:33:04.000 Is it Locust Street or Dickens?

00:33:05.000 They have a couple.

00:33:05.000 No, it's definitely the one on Locust Street.

00:33:07.000 Were you in Center City?

00:33:08.000 It was right near the university.

00:33:10.000 It was right near the university, which would be, I think it was, regardless.

00:33:15.000 Which university, Temple?

00:33:16.000 Yeah, I think so.

00:33:17.000 Yeah, this is the one.

00:33:18.000 Yeah, Green Eggs Cafe.

00:33:19.000 It was Green Eggs Cafe, and it was delicious.

00:33:22.000 I gotta tell you.

00:33:22.000 Tyler, I think this is what you ordered.

00:33:24.000 This is literally what you ordered.

00:33:25.000 This is like this velvet pancake calorie.

00:33:29.000 I don't eat that now.

00:33:30.000 That looks disgusting.

00:33:32.000 No, Tyler ordered this.

00:33:33.000 It doesn't look like red velvet.

00:33:35.000 It looks like a chunk of flesh.

00:33:36.000 He ordered like a cake.

00:33:38.000 That looks like it was just cut out of a dead cow.

00:33:41.000 What in the world?

00:33:42.000 Yeah, this is it.

00:33:44.000 I'm looking right at it on the map.

00:33:46.000 It was right downtown there.

00:33:49.000 That's so funny. 0.93

00:33:50.000 And remember all the police officers were all black and all the Antifa people were white and they were like spitting and like getting up in your face. 0.71

00:33:59.000 All the black police officers were like they got involved and were like body slamming and they were like piping them down and everything. 0.95

00:34:07.000 It was so funny. 0.92

00:34:08.000 Yeah, Philly cops don't mess around.

00:34:09.000 Oh yeah, it was great.

00:34:10.000 So, for Dark Woke, what can we expect?

00:34:14.000 We could imagine things that have never happened before among Democrats.

00:34:17.000 They might target random people who aren't famous and just make giant villains of them on the internet and try to blow up their lives.

00:34:26.000 They could get people fired from their jobs because of things that they just said a decade ago.

00:34:33.000 There's like so many unprecedented things that Dark Woke could do, Charlie.

00:34:36.000 They could lock people up and deny them due process and deny them a hearing and file all sorts of extraneous charges on them for years until the Supreme Court finally steps in and shuts it down.

00:34:49.000 I mean, gosh, could you imagine?

00:34:52.000 Imagine if the Democrats started doing that.

00:34:54.000 They could kick you out of the military for not taking an experimental vaccine.

00:34:58.000 They could kick you out of polite society.

00:35:01.000 They could restrict your travel rights if you attended a protest and were there peacefully on January 6, 2021.

00:35:06.000 Could you imagine?

00:35:08.000 Could you imagine if they were censoring your free speech rights?

00:35:12.000 Could you imagine if they were kicking you, you know, taking your children away from you because you didn't want them to be transgenderized and they would put them into other states? 0.99

00:35:25.000 I think this is a—I will say that—I don't want to keep saying it.

00:35:33.000 I don't want to keep on giving Democrats advice.

00:35:35.000 Just do this.

00:35:35.000 I'm not going to tell you what to do.

00:35:36.000 Next segment.

00:35:38.000 All righty.

00:35:38.000 Okay, well now— And make Jasmine Crockett the face of it.

00:35:41.000 I literally—yeah, do that.

00:35:43.000 Show me where to donate.

00:35:43.000 I will raise you money, Jasmine Crockett.

00:35:45.000 We have a donor event next weekend.

00:35:46.000 I will raise you $10 million.

00:35:48.000 The Jasmine Crockett for presidency super PAC.

00:35:50.000 I will chair it.

00:35:51.000 Free of charge.

00:35:53.000 Don't make Jasmine Crockett the face of it.

00:35:55.000 Please, no.

00:35:56.000 Do the opposite.

00:35:57.000 Okay, I will not tell you my actual advice.

00:35:58.000 Next.

00:35:59.000 Okay, so now we're going into the Oakland thing already.

00:36:01.000 I need to get the number on that video.

00:36:03.000 But we discussed this.

00:36:05.000 So this happened in the Bay Area.

00:36:07.000 And we had a very strong reaction on Twitter about it.

00:36:10.000 It's a clip just to set up what people are going to see or hear.

00:36:13.000 It's a guy who apparently fell onto the tracks in Oakland, and no one helps him out.

00:36:21.000 We've got to also talk about the Florida State shooter with the Starbucks.

00:36:25.000 Okay, we'll get to both of those.

00:36:26.000 Let's do the Oakland one first.

00:36:29.000 We'll get to that.

00:36:30.000 Let's first do number 300.

00:36:32.000 Play that, please.

00:36:33.000 Get out! 0.98

00:36:36.000 This is my contribution.

00:36:37.000 So did he die?

00:36:39.000 No, he got him out.

00:36:40.000 He finally crawled himself.

00:36:41.000 The train stopped.

00:36:45.000 Miraculously.

00:36:45.000 But this is a bad trend.

00:36:47.000 It's a homeless life.

00:36:48.000 Fair Area TV!

00:36:49.000 Hey, me!

00:36:49.000 I'm on the offering now boarding, flat 43.

00:36:54.000 Homeless white guy. 0.52

00:36:55.000 Now... 0.96

00:36:55.000 I think you even see him. 0.96

00:36:59.000 He kind of gets out there.

00:37:00.000 Yeah, he finally gets out.

00:37:03.000 And he's like, why did you guys help me?

00:37:04.000 Well, so a thing you can clearly tell looking at him is he's clearly not well at all. 0.97

00:37:09.000 No, he's a drug addict. 0.85

00:37:11.000 Yeah, he's clearly high as a kite.

00:37:13.000 What I would say is, kind of my take is, trying to help him would be a heroic thing, but I sort of can't blame people for not immediately taking action.

00:37:24.000 At that moment where he's floundering, I don't know if I agree.

00:37:26.000 You could stick out one hand.

00:37:28.000 It's so easy to get pulled in, though.

00:37:30.000 That guy's pretty big.

00:37:31.000 I'm 200 pounds.

00:37:33.000 I disagree, though.

00:37:33.000 I think one hand...

00:37:35.000 You could also really...

00:37:35.000 If he's trying to pull you in, like...

00:37:37.000 Well, so you know how they train with, like, lifeguards, for example, with drowning victims? 0.99

00:37:40.000 You have to hit them.

00:37:41.000 Well, yeah, but also, like, you do not go try to save someone from drowning. 0.92

00:37:46.000 If you are not ironclad certain, you will not drown yourself.

00:37:50.000 Like, if you have a flotation device that you can be tethered to, if you can have, like...

00:37:55.000 Or, like, it's good to throw something, but, like, you generally, they say, you do not jump in after a drowning victim.

00:38:00.000 Okay, then how about this?

00:38:01.000 Because you will just drown.

00:38:01.000 Do you film this?

00:38:03.000 Yeah, that's probably bad.

00:38:05.000 The universal practice of just pulling out.

00:38:07.000 I don't think we know enough in the video to say whether or not what we would have done.

00:38:13.000 I think the gut reaction of filming it is morbid.

00:38:17.000 I think the video, if I'm not mistaken, maybe I'm wrong.

00:38:20.000 I haven't watched it since we dropped in the chat.

00:38:24.000 I think that people are kind of jeering him a little bit, aren't they?

00:38:28.000 Aren't they jeering at him a little bit?

00:38:31.000 I wouldn't say.

00:38:31.000 I think people are shouting.

00:38:33.000 I highly doubt anyone.

00:38:34.000 I don't think anybody was like, oh my gosh, no, you can do it.

00:38:37.000 That's the other thing, too.

00:38:38.000 You could be running up to him and be like, I can't grab you, but come on, just put your leg up.

00:38:43.000 Giving him instructions.

00:38:44.000 Nobody was even trying to help the guy.

00:38:46.000 They were kind of mocking him a little bit with the video.

00:38:50.000 It is a bad trend we are seeing.

00:38:52.000 Where people are just filming bad stuff that's happening.

00:38:55.000 By the way, did we ever find out the person who at Florida State University was the person with the Starbucks with that girl that got shot?

00:39:00.000 I don't think we do.

00:39:01.000 We have that by the way now, too.

00:39:02.000 How did that not become a multiple-day national news story, by the way?

00:39:05.000 It's only B-roll.

00:39:06.000 Let's play 314.

00:39:07.000 The memory holding of this is really creepy and bizarre.

00:39:10.000 So here's what's happening.

00:39:12.000 On podcasts, there's a person sipping a Starbucks, filming while one of her classmates is shot, on the ground dying, and she's filming it.

00:39:20.000 With Starbucks in hand.

00:39:22.000 Sipping it.

00:39:22.000 Literally just took a drink of Starbucks next to this.

00:39:25.000 And more shots are going off in the background.

00:39:27.000 What's so bizarre about this to me is I feel like I would be running for my life in the shooting.

00:39:31.000 This whole thing, this is one of the weirdest.

00:39:33.000 I thought it was AI.

00:39:34.000 I thought this was fake.

00:39:35.000 Yeah, I remember you said that.

00:39:37.000 This is not real.

00:39:38.000 No one knows who this person is.

00:39:40.000 This is a very disturbing trend.

00:39:42.000 And in both these cases, thankfully they lived. 0.93

00:39:44.000 There's going to be somebody that dies and someone just films it the entire time.

00:39:48.000 They just film it.

00:39:49.000 That's right.

00:39:51.000 Well, I actually follow a whole Reddit about this.

00:39:54.000 No, you follow this weird, dark stuff.

00:39:55.000 They die in elevators.

00:39:57.000 Yeah, a little bit.

00:39:57.000 He really does.

00:39:58.000 Tyler is constantly, like, there should be a new thing.

00:40:01.000 Every time I get an elevator now, I'm like, oh, Tyler thinks I'm going to die or something.

00:40:04.000 I'm telling you, elevators, you could die.

00:40:07.000 You could die.

00:40:08.000 It's just not good.

00:40:09.000 You have to know the ways that...

00:40:11.000 You said that to me the other day when I tried to call you.

00:40:12.000 This is why.

00:40:14.000 It is interesting that we don't seem to know who it came from.

00:40:17.000 Because presumably, like most of these videos, these are only available because someone uploaded it.

00:40:21.000 It's from their own phone.

00:40:23.000 It's very brief.

00:40:25.000 So you almost wonder, like, did someone act like...

00:40:28.000 You know, on Facebook, you can just go live?

00:40:30.000 You almost wonder, did someone accidentally tap the go live button and then un-live themselves?

00:40:35.000 And now it's become this huge thing.

00:40:37.000 So that's why we were discussing it, like, how should we blow it up more?

00:40:40.000 And I was saying, I'm always very wary of taking any four-second clip and exploding it, because the truth is, you don't know what's going on before that video or after that video.

00:40:50.000 But it is very odd.

00:40:52.000 I'd say the biggest, easiest takeaway is the automatic impulse of anything is happening.

00:40:56.000 I'm going to pull out my phone and record it.

00:40:58.000 And it gets two different angles.

00:41:00.000 Not helping someone when you should help them, but also recording when you really should be exercising basic self-preservation.

00:41:08.000 Because you get people who obviously are putting themselves in danger or actively inhibiting an evacuation or something that needs to be done because they're just recording it with their phone.

00:41:18.000 It's a very jarring...

00:41:20.000 Modern reality.

00:41:21.000 Well, this is why I was saying I read it.

00:41:22.000 I follow this one thing called Why Were They Filming?

00:41:24.000 And it's all a bunch of like, why does this person have their phone out and filming what's going on?

00:41:29.000 And they catch crazy stuff that happens on there.

00:41:32.000 There is, I think, an entire...

00:41:34.000 I think these people, it's like almost video game-esque, where they don't have any fear for their life.

00:41:40.000 They don't have any fear for...

00:41:42.000 Maybe they feel so valueless that they're...

00:41:46.000 Their only value is what they capture on their phone, like the same way what they ingest on their phone?

00:41:52.000 I was just going to say, no, I would disagree with that in a sense that I don't think it's that it's internalized.

00:42:00.000 I don't think they're internalizing anything.

00:42:02.000 I think that because it's the algorithm, right?

00:42:05.000 The algorithm rewards.

00:42:08.000 And dopamine rewards, whatever goes viral, whatever's the hottest thing, whatever's the next content.

00:42:13.000 So because all of us have social media, I'm sure we're all victims of it here or guilty of it here.

00:42:18.000 Even Blake is a TikTok star.

00:42:20.000 And, you know, we all think like, okay, hey, this is going to be great content.

00:42:26.000 This is going to be great content.

00:42:28.000 So we've actually sort of...

00:42:31.000 We've detached ourselves from reality in the sense that we don't experience reality anymore.

00:42:36.000 We're constantly thinking, and everyone is doing it now, we're constantly thinking, oh, how is this going to look on the gram?

00:42:42.000 How is this going to look on Twitter?

00:42:44.000 How is this going to look on, you know, whatever your social media choice is?

00:42:47.000 And so rather than Rather than directly interface with that, we always take that extra step back to think, how will others look at this if we then go and film it?

00:42:58.000 So I think we've rewired all of people's brains.

00:43:02.000 This is why I talk about the generations that grew up with technology are just fundamentally different.

00:43:09.000 Yeah, just the blurring of the lines between the two, right?

00:43:13.000 Yeah.

00:43:13.000 It's just remarkable, truly.

00:43:18.000 Y-R-E-F-Y has been the sponsor of this incredibly viral campus tour. 0.75

00:43:23.000 Private student loan debt in America totals about $300 billion.

00:43:27.000 About $45 billion of that is labeled as distressed.

00:43:30.000 Y-R-E-F-Y refinances distressed or defaulted private student loans that others won't touch.

00:43:34.000 Y-R-E-F-Y does not care what your credit score is. 0.99

00:43:37.000 Go to Y-R-E-F-Y.com, call 888-Y-R-E-F-Y-34, or log on to Y-R-E-F-Y.com.

00:43:44.000 Can you imagine being debt free and being unburdened by what has been bad credit is accepted?

00:43:50.000 Do you have a co-borrower?

00:43:51.000 Why refi can get them released from the loan?

00:43:54.000 You can give mom or dad a break.

00:43:56.000 You can even skip a payment every six months of the 12 times.

00:43:59.000 Okay, we have one last time for one last topic.

00:44:08.000 Alrighty, so this is the, uh, it's a factory that they just built in China.

00:44:15.000 And what's special about this factory, let me see if I can get it here, is it apparently can be run entirely without any humans whatsoever, and it can build one smartphone every second.

00:44:33.000 What's the number on that one, guys?

00:44:35.000 I'm trying to find it on this chart.

00:44:37.000 That's crazy.

00:44:39.000 A second?

00:44:39.000 It is.

00:44:40.000 Let's do...

00:44:41.000 Okay, it's 306.

00:44:41.000 It's just B-roll.

00:44:42.000 But this is a...

00:44:44.000 It's a factory that exists.

00:44:45.000 It can do one phone a second, so that's about 86,400 phones a day.

00:44:50.000 It operates in darkness, because it doesn't need any humans at it, so they don't need light.

00:44:56.000 And it pumps out a phone every second, and the Chinese company that designed it has some creepy, ominous, dystopian video future, and it would all be in Chinese. 0.96

00:45:09.000 I mean, just...

00:45:10.000 So how many seconds are there in a day?

00:45:12.000 68,000 seconds?

00:45:13.000 86,400.

00:45:14.000 86,000 seconds?

00:45:15.000 Yep.

00:45:15.000 Okay.

00:45:16.000 So how many phones does Apple currently produce a day?

00:45:19.000 They probably have to produce way more than that. 0.72

00:45:21.000 Let me think.

00:45:22.000 Let's search annual iPhone sales.

00:45:24.000 They sell units sold.

00:45:27.000 They sell 232 million phones in 23. How many?

00:45:31.000 232 million.

00:45:32.000 I'm sorry.

00:45:33.000 232 million.

00:45:34.000 Yes.

00:45:34.000 Worldwide.

00:45:35.000 Okay.

00:45:35.000 So wait.

00:45:36.000 Hold on.

00:45:36.000 That means that they have to produce.

00:45:38.000 A lot more than one a second.

00:45:39.000 They have to produce like a thousand a second.

00:45:41.000 Yeah, so one a second for a whole year would be about 30 million.

00:45:45.000 Oh, I'm sorry.

00:45:46.000 Yeah, of course.

00:45:46.000 You have to scale it out.

00:45:47.000 So they have to...

00:45:48.000 But is this for Apple or is this for some other company?

00:45:52.000 I believe it's just a different Chinese company.

00:45:54.000 China has some very strong smartphone makers.

00:45:56.000 Oh, that's my question.

00:45:57.000 So Jack, in China, what phone does Laobai Jing, the people of China, use?

00:46:02.000 What hardware do they use?

00:46:03.000 Probably either Xiaomi or Huawei.

00:46:07.000 So they don't use Apple.

00:46:08.000 They don't use Apple.

00:46:10.000 I mean, in addition to Apple.

00:46:12.000 Are Apple devices used by mainland Chinese?

00:46:16.000 Yeah, they are, but they're typically considered luxury items.

00:46:20.000 They're usually bought abroad as opposed to bought domestically.

00:46:23.000 Okay.

00:46:25.000 So...

00:46:25.000 I just dropped to the chat.

00:46:27.000 It's 500,000 a day iPhone at the Foxconn factory in China.

00:46:32.000 500,000 a day?

00:46:33.000 And then it's 350,000 employees.

00:46:36.000 That's crazy.

00:46:37.000 To make 500,000 a day.

00:46:39.000 And this is no employees, right?

00:46:40.000 Yeah, this was a Xiaomi factory.

00:46:42.000 Do you think this is all hype or do you think this is real?

00:46:44.000 I think it's real.

00:46:45.000 So this is where, this is kind of why we wanted to discuss it, is I think...

00:46:48.000 Because everyone tells me it's hype, but let's cope.

00:46:50.000 It's definitely cope.

00:46:52.000 So the thing is, is you often get the take of China, that China succeeds in manufacturing because they are, it's slave labor, you'll come in here, it's sweatshop labor, they just beat us on cost. 0.85

00:47:03.000 That is not accurate anymore.

00:47:05.000 And it's actually become less accurate super quickly.

00:47:08.000 Like the difference between the China of 2028...

00:47:12.000 You know, 17 years ago when they hosted the Olympics, 2008, 2008 Beijing Olympics to today, massive gap in what China is like.

00:47:22.000 Or even just five years ago.

00:47:24.000 Five years ago, China exported almost no cars.

00:47:27.000 Now they're the largest car exporter in the world.

00:47:29.000 And it's because they dominate in electric cars specifically.

00:47:32.000 China also is the, they install, in a given year, they install about half of all robots that are used in a factory setting.

00:47:42.000 And this pervades a ton of things.

00:47:44.000 So for like 5G, when you hear about 5G, what do you think about?

00:47:47.000 Russia.

00:47:48.000 Really?

00:47:49.000 I think about towers.

00:47:51.000 Or people think about cell phone radiation is going to give them brain cancer.

00:47:56.000 5G is actually not just about cell phones.

00:47:59.000 One of the biggest things about 5G is you can use it to interface a billion robots in your factory and have them all be super reliable and they're getting a super reliable signal and you can have your entire factory be so much more advanced and complicated and all of that.

00:48:15.000 When I say that, we talk about America re-industrializing, and I think a lot of people, they have this nostalgic vision of what manufacturing is, and they're like, oh, it was so cool when America had steel plants, and this guy could go in with a hard hat and work in his steel plant for 40 hours a week, and he would make this middle-class income and have a wife and his 2.7 kids.

00:48:34.000 And I'm not sure if people totally realize what manufacturing is at this point.

00:48:39.000 And what it would mean to bring it back to America. 0.81

00:48:42.000 Let me read something from a top, top businessman.

00:48:45.000 I'm not going to say who, but you guys would all know the name.

00:48:47.000 And I want you to say, because actually this was part of a group chat.

00:48:50.000 I'm on like 900 group chats.

00:48:51.000 And this video got popped up.

00:48:53.000 Someone put it in there.

00:48:53.000 And said, quote, America does not have enough people.

00:48:56.000 China has four times our population.

00:48:59.000 Continues by saying, China is extremely automated, so much more so than America. 0.83

00:49:04.000 Labor costs are not low in China.

00:49:06.000 What they have...

00:49:10.000 Exactly.

00:49:12.000 So do you agree with all that?

00:49:14.000 Do you think we don't have enough people?

00:49:16.000 I don't think it's number of people.

00:49:17.000 A lot of it is what those people learn.

00:49:23.000 It's taken decades to get to this point.

00:49:25.000 So it's that in China, it's prestigious to run a factory.

00:49:28.000 It's prestigious to be good at the stuff that goes into designing a factory.

00:49:32.000 You can make a good living.

00:49:33.000 You can make a good living, but it is truly prestigious.

00:49:36.000 Whereas, even if you wanted to...

00:49:39.000 Let's say you wanted to grow up and be a chemicals manufacturer in America.

00:49:45.000 Charlie, how do you become a chemicals manufacturer in America?

00:49:47.000 I don't really know.

00:49:48.000 What degree do you get?

00:49:50.000 Where do you go to school?

00:49:51.000 If you tell that to your neighbor, they're like, okay.

00:49:53.000 Yeah, yeah, exactly.

00:49:54.000 There's no status.

00:49:56.000 Yeah, and what's the funnel to go into it? 0.80

00:49:59.000 It almost probably would be dumb luck.

00:50:00.000 Okay, you major in...

00:50:02.000 You either get a business degree or you major in a chemical engineering and you hopefully end up at the right company.

00:50:06.000 And even then, you're probably at that company.

00:50:08.000 What would you do if you wanted to go your own way and build your own facility from scratch?

00:50:13.000 Hugely difficult to imagine that.

00:50:15.000 But in China, they've been doing it for decades at this point.

00:50:19.000 So now what you have is, in China, you'll have millions of people with experience in running a factory.

00:50:25.000 So they know how a factory runs.

00:50:27.000 How do you build a factory?

00:50:28.000 They know how to build a factory.

00:50:30.000 And you have...

00:50:31.000 Regulators who are familiar with, okay, how do we approve building a factory?

00:50:35.000 How do we make sure it happens quickly?

00:50:36.000 What are the possible downsides?

00:50:38.000 It's all that expertise stuff that goes into it.

00:50:42.000 And the culmination is you can do that really automated stuff that's incredibly impressive.

00:50:47.000 And once you have the advantage there, it's a lot harder to lose it.

00:50:51.000 If your only advantage is having lower labor costs...

00:50:54.000 Then someone beats you by having even lower labor costs.

00:50:57.000 And that's happened.

00:50:57.000 They have other advantages.

00:50:59.000 Like garment.

00:50:59.000 You don't make shoes as much in China anymore.

00:51:02.000 You make those in Vietnam or Bangladesh. 0.99

00:51:04.000 You make them in places where there actually is lower labor.

00:51:07.000 And they've chosen to specialize in that.

00:51:09.000 But if their specialty is we have the absolute most advanced robots that can build a phone a second with no human input other than fixing a machine when it breaks.

00:51:18.000 How do you beat that, Charlie?

00:51:21.000 I don't know.

00:51:22.000 And this is...

00:51:24.000 The other problem is that if you try to bring back, which we should, industrial manufacturing, you're going to run into major labor unions.

00:51:29.000 I mean, they don't have labor unions in China.

00:51:31.000 Not like this.

00:51:32.000 I mean, they might have some form of...

00:51:34.000 You could correct me if I'm wrong, Blake, but I don't think they have, let's just say, the UAW.

00:51:42.000 Commies don't put up with unions, right? 0.99

00:51:44.000 That's part of the irony, though.

00:51:45.000 That's actually why they have so much automation.

00:51:47.000 There are Chinese factories where the quality of life in the factory is so bad. 1.00

00:51:52.000 That a worker would come in, like, they would have 100% turnover every six months.

00:51:56.000 And so the fix is mass automation.

00:51:59.000 What you have in America, we saw this with the longshoremen, is, like, we want to...

00:52:04.000 That's a sore topic around here.

00:52:06.000 Admittedly, admittedly, but that was the actual dispute they had, which is they opposed automation.

00:52:10.000 And the deal they reached was, don't automate.

00:52:12.000 This, like, wildly overweight soprano type comes in. 1.00

00:52:17.000 I'm going to shut down the ports if you give me what I want.

00:52:21.000 All right.

00:52:22.000 It's just not my favorite topic.

00:52:23.000 All right.

00:52:24.000 All right.

00:52:24.000 This is what our system is producing.

00:52:29.000 These girls are on Twitch or something. 1.00

00:52:31.000 Is that right?

00:52:33.000 Remember, the base of the Democrat Party is young, unmarried women who are very miserable and visit their doctors all the time for antidepressants and Xanax. 0.99

00:52:43.000 And young women tend to be very upset and very troubled.

00:52:46.000 Exhibit A, play cut 305.

00:52:48.000 Health insurance?

00:52:50.000 No.

00:52:51.000 Why?

00:52:51.000 Are you on your parents?

00:52:53.000 Yes.

00:52:54.000 Oh, congratulations.

00:52:55.000 What are you gonna do?

00:52:56.000 Okay, I get my own.

00:52:57.000 How?

00:52:59.000 With my money.

00:53:01.000 How?

00:53:02.000 What do you mean?

00:53:03.000 How?

00:53:04.000 Who do you call?

00:53:06.000 To get health insurance?

00:53:08.000 Yeah!

00:53:09.000 Someone who provides health insurance?

00:53:11.000 What is this question?

00:53:12.000 What do you mean?

00:53:12.000 Are you saying because you don't know how?

00:53:13.000 I don't know how!

00:53:14.000 Why don't you ask Ludd's parents?

00:53:15.000 Or your dad?

00:53:17.000 I come from a very Republican family.

00:53:19.000 You go to the doctor so often.

00:53:21.000 I can't believe you don't have health insurance.

00:53:22.000 This sounds like a lecture that I didn't expect.

00:53:25.000 You go so often.

00:53:28.000 I know, but I'm limited because I get really stressed because I don't have any resources and I get really confused.

00:53:32.000 It's the same reason that I went to culinary school instead of normal college.

00:53:35.000 No one prepped me.

00:53:36.000 My family abandoned me.

00:53:38.000 I didn't know.

00:53:39.000 All of a sudden, everyone in junior...

00:53:41.000 Junior year of high school is like, I got accepted into Harvard.

00:53:43.000 I got accepted into MIT.

00:53:44.000 And I'm like, wait, we were supposed to submit stuff?

00:53:47.000 I had no clue.

00:53:48.000 No one told me.

00:53:49.000 Everyone forgot about me.

00:53:51.000 I think my favorite part of that is you go to the doctor so much.

00:53:55.000 She's like 24. What did I just say?

00:53:57.000 I said they go to the doctor for all sorts of drugs because they're told they have all these problems.

00:54:01.000 All the time.

00:54:02.000 Right.

00:54:03.000 Meanwhile, we can't open factories.

00:54:05.000 We wonder why.

00:54:06.000 We can't even get on insurance policies.

00:54:09.000 There's an easy fix for this, by the way, folks.

00:54:14.000 It's also the same fix as the birth rate problem.

00:54:16.000 It's called traditional marriage.

00:54:21.000 Traditional marriage.

00:54:23.000 Could you imagine?

00:54:24.000 Someone being married to her?

00:54:26.000 Have you ever seen...

00:54:27.000 Can you imagine her running a factory? 1.00

00:54:28.000 Every time there's a crisis and it's this text exchange where it's this girl, I think a girlfriend messaging her boyfriend or maybe a wife, husband, and she just says, what's going on with the stock market today?

00:54:38.000 And he just replies, lol, don't worry about it, babe.

00:54:41.000 And she goes, okay, thank you.

00:54:44.000 Yay! 0.99

00:54:47.000 I love that.

00:54:48.000 That's kind of how it goes in our house.

00:54:50.000 She's like, so...

00:54:52.000 We're doing great.

00:54:53.000 Okay.

00:54:55.000 Alright, everyone.

00:54:57.000 Keep on committing thought crimes and our campus tour will continue.

00:55:01.000 Crowds are big.

00:55:03.000 Very big.

00:55:05.000 And Texas A&M was a great time, wasn't it, Blake?

00:55:07.000 Oh, it was amazing.

00:55:10.000 Can we play the Texas A&M War Hym video?

00:55:16.000 The one that we played on the show?

00:55:18.000 Blake, this was probably one of the most amazing Entrances of a cop.

00:55:22.000 And it was spur of the moment.

00:55:23.000 I think we only decided on it.

00:55:24.000 Ten minutes beforehand.

00:55:25.000 I was like, play the fight song.

00:55:26.000 Wore him.

00:55:27.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:55:28.000 That was so great.

00:55:29.000 I messaged one of my friends who goes to A&M.

00:55:30.000 Oh, you guys got really fired up for the fight song.

00:55:33.000 Wore him.

00:55:34.000 That was the reply I got.

00:55:35.000 By the way, they have all these traditions.

00:55:37.000 You can't wear your hats in the cafeteria.

00:55:38.000 They say gig him.

00:55:40.000 Cowdy.

00:55:41.000 They hiss him. 0.99

00:55:41.000 Cut him off. 0.99

00:55:42.000 Cut him off. 1.00

00:55:42.000 They say that. 1.00

00:55:43.000 I guess that's just a normal...

00:55:44.000 It may be the school with the most traditions of any school.

00:55:47.000 It's a lot.

00:55:48.000 Let's watch it.

00:55:49.000 Let's watch it.

00:55:59.000 I mean, that's the short version, but it was, it went two minutes.

00:56:03.000 It was two minutes long.

00:56:04.000 It was incredible.

00:56:05.000 Charlie, can you just, can you explain to me what a gig is when they say, because I understand it means something different down to the Aggies than it does to the rest of us.

00:56:14.000 I don't know, actually.

00:56:15.000 I don't know what they mean by gig them.

00:56:18.000 Gig him!

00:56:19.000 What do you mean gig?

00:56:21.000 In Philly, gig is like a show or a job.

00:56:24.000 Here's Mark Halpern.

00:56:26.000 Not Mark Halpern.

00:56:26.000 I've got the book on Mark Halpern's show.

00:56:28.000 This is Will Kane covering it.

00:56:29.000 But first, Texas doesn't play around. 0.99

00:56:31.000 This is fun.

00:56:32.000 All my New York producers just discovered the insanity, friendly insanity, Aggies, of Texas A&M.

00:56:37.000 So when Turning Point went to College Station, this just caught everybody in New York's eye.

00:56:42.000 I'm familiar.

00:56:43.000 This is our weird cousin in Texas, who we love, Aggies.

00:56:45.000 Thank you.

00:56:47.000 Thank you.

00:56:54.000 Marching, Marching, Marching.

00:56:57.000 you

00:56:58.000 Gig 'em is approval. 0.92

00:57:00.000 Universal sign of enthusiasm and approval.

00:57:04.000 It often is accompanied by a thumbs-up gesture and optimism, determination, and loyalty.

00:57:09.000 Oh, people loved this, by the way, when I did that, Tyler.

00:57:11.000 Oof, they loved it.

00:57:12.000 Yeah, oh, they loved it.

00:57:13.000 That was like...

00:57:14.000 That was the crescendo at the top.

00:57:17.000 Boom.

00:57:17.000 I got like 10 messages.

00:57:19.000 They're like, Charlie just did hordes down.

00:57:21.000 I'm like, what?

00:57:22.000 I saw the video.

00:57:24.000 We gotta do more SCC schools.

00:57:25.000 God bless everybody.

00:57:26.000 Thanks so much.

00:57:27.000 Gig 'em. 0.84

00:57:27.000 Howdy. 0.84

00:57:28.000 Hiss wore him.

00:57:30.000 I know all of the A&M folklore.

00:57:34.000 The funniest thing is, outside of politics, we strongly disagree with cut them off.

00:57:38.000 Or outside of college stuff.

00:57:40.000 Do not cut them off.

00:57:41.000 Do not cut them off.

00:57:42.000 Don't cut them off.

00:57:43.000 Unless it's a longhorn.

00:57:44.000 God bless.

00:57:45.000 Talk to you soon.

00:57:46.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:57:47.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:57:49.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

The Charlie Kirk Show - April 26, 2025

THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 81 — Money For Moms? Dark Woke? AI Factories?

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