The WNBA is great, but is it really as great as everyone seems to think it is? On this episode of The Charlie Kirk Show, host Andrew Luck and co-host Blake Maltby discuss the latest in the WNBA scandal involving a hard foul on a woman named Caitlin Clark.
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00:04:03.000So I'm the one who found this article and showed everybody.
00:04:09.000I found this personally remarkable because the whole Caitlin Clark thing has been nothing but a racial discussion since she got into the W. The entire saga has been about racial dynamics.
00:04:30.000And then somehow some jerk out there, some ignoramus says, it's Charlie Kirk that turned it into a race debate.
00:06:48.000I don't have video of it, so I don't know if there was a gun pointed at her head or if they were holding her family hostage.
00:06:54.000But she said, I want to say I've earned everything, but as a white person, there is privilege.
00:06:59.000A lot of the people who have made this league what it is are black women.
00:07:02.000And you can't see this, but in the article, they're lower-casing white but capitalizing black, in case you weren't sure who's good and who's bad here.
00:07:11.000The more we appreciate, highlight, and talk about that, the better.
00:07:15.000Brands and companies need to continue investing in those players who have made this league extraordinary.
00:07:21.000Elevating black women is a beautiful thing.
00:07:24.000Yeah, who wrote that for you, first of all?
00:08:05.000It's like some of these comedians, you know, like Bill Burr has kind of gone in the complete opposite direction.
00:08:09.000But when she put out that statement, I mean, I had so much hope for Caitlin being this person that was, she doesn't have to be political, she doesn't have to be right wing, but don't capitulate to their talking points and then everybody's mad at you.
00:09:34.000That's actually, I think, and I actually think it's more watchable than the men's volleyball because the men's volleyball, they are so athletic.
00:09:41.000It's like whoever gets the ball has, like, very high probability just to spike it because they're so athletic.
00:10:25.000But there's something about women's basketball where it's such an aesthetic drop-off.
00:10:30.000I don't mean aesthetic in a bad way, but it's such a visual drop-off from the pace and the passing and the shooting and the skill of men's basketball.
00:10:38.000It's like your brain can't process it.
00:12:25.000This is like nothing about for whatever reason, though, basketball is just not the, Well, remember also, women's basketball uses a smaller basketball than men.
00:12:36.000I mean, it's literally a different sport.
00:12:38.000I mean, where the ball is 28 1⁄2 inches, where the men's ball is much bigger than that.
00:12:44.000And I was just trying to think of other sports that I don't watch any of them, but that are more watchable than female basketball.
00:14:54.000There's other white women in the NBA or WNBA.
00:14:57.000I mean, all I would say is I don't think – Like, there really is a thing where you started getting these articles, like, while she was still in college, about people just bothered that she was getting too much attention or that it was, like, they would use the language, like, colonialism.
00:15:20.000They were like, how this, like, white person is colonizing our league.
00:15:24.000Like they have ownership of this sport.
00:15:33.000And then other elements where they were mad.
00:15:36.000Oh, they're promoting Caitlin Clark because she is more clean cut.
00:15:42.000She has a boyfriend, so she's not a lesbian like a lot of the players in the WNBA are.
00:17:15.000And we'd get one of those civil rights cases where they would go into the entire WNBA and find how there was systemic discrimination that led to this outcome.
00:17:25.000Which is actually, circling back around, that's how that six-on-six basketball went away.
00:17:29.000It didn't go away because people organically didn't like it.
00:17:33.000It went away because activists were mad and they got, I'm not making this up, the Office of Civil Rights.
00:17:40.000Either the DOJ or the Department of Education to say it was a violation of Title IX to have girls play this sport because they were less likely to get a scholarship for basketball at the college level.
00:25:35.000And it's changes in media consumption, regionalization of NHL broadcasts, low scoring, lack of star power, and they say COVID-19 impact.
00:25:44.000Let me tell you why it's also dropping.
00:25:47.000I'm a season ticket holder for the Flyers and they're horrible.
00:25:50.000So I don't usually admit that in public, but I've had them for three or four years and I actually just dropped them because after we won the election, uh, I mean, some cities, it's just not going to be because of the cities, but, like, it's pretty red.
00:26:09.000And after we won the election, Gritty, our great mascot, goes on ice with a trans flag, like, during Pride Day.
00:30:07.000But he lasted two hours on the football team and quit college.
00:30:11.000Anyway, even if we couldn't beat the WNBA players, it is noteworthy that we don't have the NBA subsidizing us for millions of dollars a year.
00:31:46.000A lot of people have very strong opinions on it.
00:31:49.000Now, the FBI, and this is not Biden's FBI, this is Trump's new FBI, they're coming out and they're saying Epstein actually did kill himself, and they say they have video evidence to prove it.
00:32:40.000And I would say, I think we should be open to, there's conspiracies that you could embrace that don't require someone to have murdered him.
00:33:39.000And that was like the first thing they put out was, oh, the video cameras weren't working.
00:33:43.000And that's why we all immediately were like, come on, you've got to be kidding me.
00:33:46.000There's no way you can just say that and act like it's that clean.
00:33:50.000So Epstein was taken off suicide watch shortly before his death, despite a prior incident.
00:33:59.000And then guards failed to check on him as required, and cameras outside his cell reportedly malfunctioned.
00:34:06.000But Dan's saying there's video, so I don't know if they malfunctioned or they just didn't want to report it, or some of them malfunctioned and others were working.
00:34:59.000So people point to all this and are...
00:35:03.000Yeah, it was Tova Noel and Michael Thomas were the two guards and they were accused of falling asleep and surfing the internet that right rather than checking on Epstein every 30 minutes.
00:35:16.000That's like one of the kind of darkly funny thing about this is really you're debating between there's no way they could have missed this.
00:35:23.000It had to be a conspiracy and just absolutely.
00:35:34.000And, you know, they probably didn't even know Epstein was that famous of a guy.
00:36:48.000Again, I'm just drawing from memory on this.
00:36:52.000I do feel like we're trending towards a thing where it'll just be part of that permanent conspiracy canon, and it could get weirder and weirder as a result.
00:37:01.000And eventually these things cross over.
00:37:02.000It'll turn out that Epstein was murdered because he knew the truth about the 9-11 conspiracies.
00:37:07.000And that that was done because Building 7 had the truth about the JFK conspiracies, and JFK had to be taken out because he knew the truth about the Pearl Harbor conspiracies.
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00:38:26.000What's also interesting about this is one of Epstein's victims, Virginia Guffrey, She just committed suicide, or allegedly committed suicide.
00:38:35.000And her father, Skye Roberts, expressed disbelief about this, saying, for them to say she committed suicide, there's no way that she did.
00:40:54.000So reportedly he told Trump's transition team in 2017 that he was instructed to quote unquote back off Epstein because he quote belonged to intelligence and was quote above his pay grade.
00:41:07.000And it came up in those discussions because they were worried it was going to be an issue with.
00:41:16.000All these things around Epstein, I think it just makes it harder to believe Dan.
00:41:25.000By the way, I kind of feel bad for Dan, because like you, Charlie, I trust Dan's integrity, but he's getting dragged online.
00:41:33.000Because he was very vocal before he went into the FBI that Epstein didn't kill himself.
00:41:39.000Yeah, and it's a multiple element thing here, right?
00:41:42.000Because you can imagine that there is a lot of pressure internally from people he's trying to win trust over that are like, Dan, you have to show us that you're actually going to work with us or else you'll have mass internal dissension.
00:42:01.000And he probably was like, well, show me everything, show me everything, show me everything.
00:42:05.000Yeah, I feel like if he was truly trying to, you know, lead us astray, it would be way easier to just not talk about it much or say like, oh, you know, we don't know.
00:42:15.000He's actually putting himself out there saying like, I have looked at the evidence and I believe it is strong.
00:42:32.000That's one of the reasons I think Dan is going after what the base – But you notice some of these other things are starting to happen, kind of going back to Crossfire Hurricane.
00:45:49.000What doesn't get enough attention from Joe Biden in general from the right, like the left would highlight this, the New York Times would highlight this, his tendency to tell stories and just completely change the facts about them.
00:48:23.000We keep covering AI like every week because it keeps getting like, I think they say that the capabilities of AI are doubling about every six And it's entirely believable.
00:50:22.000Every post ever made on the comments section of every website to make it so they could imitate how people talk.
00:50:28.000And, you know, every book ever written, all of that.
00:50:30.000And then similar for video, it's like, feed it every video ever posted on TikTok, every film ever made.
00:50:35.000And they train it, and they, with huge amounts of computing power, you know, enough to power an entire country, they're able to find the patterns in this, and that is how the AI models work.
00:50:45.000They're generating stuff based on patterns they've recognized.
00:51:02.000So search anything on the internet now.
00:51:05.000You're getting AI prompts back, like articles that are being written.
00:51:08.000The Chicago Sun-Times did an article of what novels you should read this summer, and they wrote it with ChatGPT and it hallucinated our books that don't even exist.
00:51:21.000So huge amounts of text is out there that's not made by humans.
00:51:25.000And they're imperfect and huge amounts of video and photos are out there that are not made by humans.
00:51:29.000They're made by AIs with all of the problems that they have.
00:51:32.000And these AIs are still learning off of all of that AI-generated content.
00:51:37.000And so it's becoming like a garbage-in, garbage-out problem.
00:51:41.000The AIs are getting worse because they've been fed AI stuff, so they're getting worse at imitating people because now half the stuff that they're consuming is just other robots.
00:51:51.000Which is going to create more demand for labor to fix this.
00:52:19.000I'll also tell you guys, it's becoming the new thing that everybody's selling.
00:52:23.000It reminds me of digital ads when they first started happening.
00:52:26.000Like, I'm just getting blown up, not just for political, but, like, just, like, business stuff, right?
00:52:30.000And all the older folks are like, oh, are you using AI?
00:52:33.000And it's like, well, what does that mean, right?
00:52:36.000But I think it's going to become the new product where, like, everybody's selling it, but, like, 95% of people that are buying have no clue, like, you know, what tier or what level of quality is this.
00:52:46.000It seems to be funny to watch that play out.
00:52:48.000I mean, we can have a whole other – It's like very scary what's happening there.
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00:54:28.000Jack wasn't able to join us for ThoughtCrime today, but...
00:54:37.000We didn't have thought crime last week when President Trump had the president of South Africa over to D.C. and had his fun little ambush interview of him in the White House.
00:54:51.000And Jack really wanted to have us talk about that, and we also wanted to react to the wider topic.
00:55:00.000I'm here right now, and yeah, with all the travel schedules, and Charlie's out in Europe, and then I'm in Europe the next day, and then we're at the Conclave, and sometimes it just doesn't always work.
00:55:09.000But, you know, there's one topic that was just near and dear to my heart, and that, of course, is white genocide.
00:55:16.000And I said, you know, if we're going to talk about white genocide, it's definitely the type of topic that we need to get to on thought crime, because literally this is a topic where people are debating if it's an actual genocide or not, and that's fine.
00:55:31.000But the point is, Like, not even that long ago, like five, six years ago on X, when it was still Twitter, you would have been banned for even mentioning it.
00:55:47.000There would be a full court press from the mainstream media.
00:55:51.000You know, it used to be that if I tweeted something about South Africa, I would immediately get request for comment, request for comment, you know, from like The Telegraph and The Guardian and The Independent and all this.
00:56:01.000And now it's like, Donald J. Trump is mainstreaming this stuff in the Oval Office itself.
00:56:09.000And they said, we don't do any of that.
00:56:14.000And it's just been one of the most incredible, it obviously was one of the most incredible moments that I've ever seen being done, but really on an issue that I think is probably more worthy than so many others out there around the world, because this is quite frankly something that is actually going on, where you have a government that is killing people.
00:56:33.000And as Marco Rubio said recently, he said, why do you care so much about the color of their skin?
00:56:37.000He said to, I think it was, um, uh, They're all being killed because of the color of their skin.
00:56:53.000And so, Blake, you know, why is it that this issue above all issues, I guess, and that's what I want to get into, is something that not only does exist, but why was the media so adamant and still is so adamant on trying to say it isn't happening?
00:57:08.000Yeah, so first, just to refresh people very quickly, you guys have seen the shoot the boar stuff, but I want to remind people of what Trump did in the Oval Office a week ago, because it was highly entertaining, I will say.
00:57:22.000Let's see, we have a bunch of clips about it.
00:57:23.000Let's see what one of the best one is.
00:58:20.000The New York Times, the way they wrote it up was so funny because it was like, at one point, President Trump just started throwing articles at the president of South Africa saying, death, death, death, horrific death.
00:58:37.000Just full-on, straight-up mogging of a world leader.
00:58:41.000And then they're all traumatized afterwards.
00:58:44.000We played this on Charlie's show, where there is this New York Times reporter who, of course, this really says it all.
00:58:50.000The South African bureau chief at the New York Times was previously just an American race reporter, so that's who they sent to South Africa.
00:59:01.000And he does this bit where he's explaining it, you know, doing one of the New York Times videos where he simultaneously says in the same videos, one, this isn't happening.
00:59:10.000There's no, you know, Trump brought up how they seize land without compensation.
00:59:13.000And he says, okay, you know, there's no, this is not happening.
00:59:19.000And what they are doing instead is there's a law.
00:59:23.000It doesn't say you can just take land without compensation.
00:59:26.000There's a law where you can take land.
00:59:29.000Without restitution if it's for the national interest or the public interest.
00:59:34.000He said it's okay if it's for the public interest.
00:59:37.000Or the other thing he said is if land is not being used.
00:59:41.000I'm sure both of those will not be abused at all.
00:59:45.000So we've been hearing about this for a few weeks.
00:59:47.000I think what I really want to get at about this, the way they freak out about this, the way the media really denies this is happening.
00:59:56.000And what people need to understand is this is not purely about South Africa.
01:00:02.000It very much is about America and it's about other countries.
01:00:07.000And it's really about, we'll be frank about this, it's like they really, they don't like white people and specifically a lot of them want them dead.
01:00:18.000So, this went viral just a short time ago where, what's that cut?
01:00:31.000So this is the shooter, Elias Rodriguez.
01:00:33.000He was, he's the suspect, you know, likely guilty in the shooting of those two Israeli embassy staff.
01:00:42.000And what he said in these text messages that were released by Ken Klippenstein on his substack.
01:00:50.000He says, LOL, you probably would have to actually genocide white people to make this America a normal country.
01:00:59.000And even a very targeted and selective rehabilitation program would probably have to lead to the lifetime imprisonments of tens of millions of white people.
01:01:09.000So this is a guy talking about America, and this is a guy who decided he would...
01:01:19.000So this all sort of circles around into a big pile.
01:01:24.000South Africa, most people will admit South Africa is a messed up country.
01:01:28.000But the narrative that the left will give is that South Africa is entirely messed up just because they had apartheid.
01:01:37.000And any problems they have are just the legacy, the aftermath of apartheid.
01:01:41.000And it gets more powerful the further in the past it is.
01:01:45.000So even though South Africa was better in 2002 than it is today, and 2002 was closer to apartheid, apartheid is the reason that it's getting much worse now, that it's gotten so much worse since then.
01:01:59.000And when they blame it for that, what they really just mean is it's like...
01:02:51.000And why does this matter for all of you watching?
01:02:53.000Because that's also what they think about America.
01:02:57.000I'm sure you saw, Jack, the other day, the King of England, he went to, or the King of Canada, King Charles, he delivered his speech to the Canadian Parliament, and he opens it with a land acknowledgement that he is...
01:03:10.000Speaking on unseated, I think it was the Algonquin, Algonquin land.
01:03:14.000What he's saying is, okay, well, Canadians, you don't have the right to your country.
01:03:20.000And that is, of course, what they have planned for all of you.
01:03:24.000Because And if the Canadian government is therefore illegitimate, then it cannot repel annexations from other powers on the North American continent.
01:03:56.000Therefore, if we go and occupy it as the 51st state, they could not, under international law, do anything about it because he just said himself that it is an illegitimate I'm just saying.
01:04:09.000I don't think we should do it, but I'm just saying.
01:04:12.000You're telling me that that's an illegitimate government.
01:04:14.000President Trump could call their bluff and he could say the land is unseated.
01:04:18.000So the only people who can seat it are the First Nations tribes.
01:04:22.000And he'll just he should just call, you know.
01:04:26.000Just summon all of the First Nations tribes and just say, all right, I'll give you guys, you know, 10 million a person if you'll cede your land claims to the United States.
01:04:54.000No, but Blake, the thing that I want, and in the interest of keeping the segment not too lengthy, is what people need to understand, when I wrote this book on humans last year, and we talked about this, people say, why does it matter?
01:05:06.000It matters because when every revolutionary movement comes forward, they always target one particular class.
01:05:12.000It was the Kulaks in Russia, in China.
01:05:15.000It was the petty bourgeoisie or if you had, you know, you're a landowner.
01:05:18.000So basically, you know, people today, if you had any like a second house or something.
01:05:23.000And by the way, go go look at what the left says about landlords.
01:05:26.000If you want to see if that's actually changed on the far left and not newsflash, it hasn't.
01:05:39.000was there religious, anyone who was You also saw that in France.
01:05:45.000And Blake, you and I did some incredible interviews on this that turned into this book, actually.
01:05:50.000And so the point is, boys and girls, is Critical race theory was first implemented in a country, I think, on a national scale in South Africa in their constitution of 1996.
01:06:04.000And you have all of these articles pertaining to a disparate impact.
01:07:08.000And you can go back to the ZANU, and we talk about that in the book, and so many other examples of where the KGB and the Chinese Communist Party were standing up these revolutionary movements in South Africa and in the independence movement at the time.
01:07:23.000And so then the idea is that this cultural Marxism spreads out and you have leftists here in the United States like this Elias Rodriguez and so many others who start supporting it and saying we're going to take matters into our own hands because we want these ideas to be spread to their fullest fruition.
01:07:41.000And when they're spread to their fullest fruition, what does that mean?
01:07:44.000Christian males are not allowed to own land, and they are allowed to be the approved targets.
01:08:35.000Maoists, during the Cultural Revolution, they had them.
01:08:37.000They were called the five black categories.
01:08:40.000That's what they called it in Chinese.
01:08:42.000And the five black categories, black meaning bad, wicked, landlords, rich farmers, counter-revolutionaries, bad influencers, which actually included actual criminals, and right-wingers, which those were the five categories.
01:09:00.000Basically, it meant if you were in any of those categories, obviously landlord is a pretty broad one, right winger, a pretty broad one, you were just sort of presumptively guilty of all of these evils.
01:09:11.000And if you're on the modern left, what it really is is kind of, I wanted to flag another thing.
01:09:25.000This was posted by the DSA Liberation Caucus.
01:09:28.000So the Democrat Socialists of America, far left organization, a few members of Congress have described themselves as democratic socialists.
01:09:36.000I don't think they're members of this party, but it's this milieu of people who are...
01:09:43.000And so the DSA Liberation Caucus, which is a subgroup of it, they released a statement on Wednesday saying that Elias Rodriguez, embassy shooter, is a political prisoner.
01:09:54.000They say the Palestinian struggle is the tip of the spear against global imperialism.
01:10:01.000Whether in the besieged Gaza Strip, the Red Sea, the south of Lebanon, or the heart of the U.S., there must be consequences for genocidal Zionist imperialism.
01:10:15.000To some extent, but they're really just saying, like, you are bad because you are a European and in places we don't want you.
01:10:23.000And what you'll discover is the places they don't want you are eventually Everywhere.
01:10:29.000It is an inherently, like, it's an ideology that seeks to dispossess people, to delegitimize people, to destroy people.
01:10:39.000And there's a disturbing number of people at the New York Times in the media who are perfectly happy to egg this along, to justify it, to give credence to these insane justifications where, you know, they'll say...
01:11:05.000That's what's so amazing, because when they're chanting, and I post this, and I post the size of some of these protests, because people don't realize there are these rallies that are going on, and they'll say they can't realize how big it is.
01:11:56.000You know, it's not true and it's good that it's happening.
01:11:59.000Now, keep in mind, like, I think about eight years ago or so, like, Ole Miss told people to stop playing Dixie at football games because, like, that was a dog whistle because it's just, it's a song about the South that is from before the Civil War.