The Charlie Kirk Show - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 85 — WNBA Race Drama? Epstein DID Kill Himself? AI Slop Surge?

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, isn't the WNBA great?

00:00:02.000 No, it's not.

00:00:03.000 We talk about that and Caitlin Clark.

00:00:05.000 We also talk about AI Slop.

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00:01:25.000 We are here with Blake.

00:01:27.000 We're here with Andrew and a special guest.

00:01:29.000 Cliff Maloney.

00:01:30.000 Cliff, welcome, my friend.

00:01:32.000 You are the Al Michaels.

00:01:33.000 Welcome.

00:01:33.000 Good to be here.

00:01:34.000 Is Cliff going to be doing the kind of announcing like we did during the election coverage?

00:01:39.000 I still get people that come up to me and talk about how amazing that was.

00:01:44.000 We're going to dive right into it.

00:01:46.000 Apparently, I'm starting a race war in the WNBA. 1.00

00:01:49.000 You've done it again.

00:01:49.000 You've done it again, Charlie.

00:01:50.000 I have a tendency to start race wars. 0.51

00:01:52.000 There is this placid world where there is the Women's National Basketball Association.

00:01:56.000 Of course, a bunch of women always get along. 1.00

00:01:59.000 Yeah, women are known for getting along. 1.00

00:02:01.000 They live in harmony with one another.

00:02:03.000 They definitely never have beefs or arguments or disputes or rivalries.

00:02:07.000 Only Charlie Kirk would start.

00:02:08.000 Only you could do it.

00:02:09.000 WNBA was great. 1.00

00:02:11.000 I'm sure all ten people at their games were having a blast.

00:02:15.000 And then this news story happened.

00:02:18.000 Well, it's been happening for a while, but we can start showing that you reacted to this hard foul.

00:02:26.000 No, it was a lot of them, for the record.

00:02:28.000 Okay, there's a lot of things.

00:02:30.000 I'm going to send the one.

00:02:31.000 And by the way, just for the record, my latest tweet is one of my favorite tweets because I didn't run it by any of you guys.

00:02:35.000 It was just called The Scroll and Let It Fly.

00:02:38.000 And then Andrew learns about it once it's up.

00:02:40.000 But yes, keep going.

00:02:41.000 Yes, all right.

00:02:42.000 So I think this is, you've had a couple.

00:02:44.000 So the first one we have, let's do, 98. So that was called as a violent atrocity on the court.

00:03:01.000 That was Caitlin Cart dribbling, and she sort of brushed her fingertips.

00:03:05.000 Barely.

00:03:06.000 I don't think she even touched it.

00:03:08.000 You know, I think we might need a federal investigation.

00:03:11.000 I know.

00:03:11.000 I think we need a hate crime investigation whether she touched her.

00:03:14.000 Exactly.

00:03:15.000 I meant the hand, just to be clear.

00:03:17.000 I don't think she even touched her.

00:03:18.000 I mean, it's terrible.

00:03:19.000 And then on the flip side, though, we also have she is getting.

00:03:27.000 Brutalized.

00:03:28.000 Yeah, just brutalized on the court.

00:03:30.000 So we have, you know, fouls get called one way, but not the other way.

00:03:36.000 And it's all getting quite dramatic.

00:03:38.000 And it turns out, really, everything was fine until you stuck your nose into it, Charlie.

00:03:43.000 So what's the headline we have right now?

00:03:46.000 Let me search Charlie Kirk WNBA as I search every day, but I try to check.

00:03:50.000 It's in the chat, Blake.

00:03:52.000 Yeah, let's see.

00:03:53.000 Charlie Kirk turns Caitlin Clark and WNBA referee controversy into race debate.

00:04:00.000 Race war. 0.70

00:04:01.000 Race war. 0.70

00:04:03.000 So I'm the one who found this article and showed everybody.

00:04:09.000 I found this personally remarkable because the whole Caitlin Clark thing has been nothing but a racial discussion since she got into the W. The entire saga has been about racial dynamics.

00:04:30.000 And then somehow some jerk out there, some ignoramus says, it's Charlie Kirk that turned it into a race debate.

00:04:37.000 So, I...

00:04:40.000 I just want to repeat what I also tweeted today.

00:04:43.000 Everyone knows what's happening here.

00:04:44.000 They are jealous because she is the best white player and one of the best players in the WNBA. 1.00

00:04:50.000 And the WNBA is overwhelmingly black women. 0.98

00:04:52.000 And they are targeting her because of this.

00:04:55.000 And on top of that, what they're really mad about is that she's the first WNBA player in...

00:05:05.000 Sue Bird was one, right?

00:05:06.000 Who was the other one?

00:05:08.000 Candace Parker?

00:05:09.000 She was a big name.

00:05:11.000 It's so dumb, frankly, that it became such a racial thing because the one I was thinking of was Lisa Leslie.

00:05:16.000 Lisa Leslie, when we were growing up, she was a decently famous person. 0.97

00:05:19.000 She got ads on TV.

00:05:21.000 Caitlin Clark's a whole different level.

00:05:22.000 And of course, one of the things about it is Lisa Leslie was a perfectly wholesome woman. 0.66

00:05:27.000 True story.

00:05:28.000 She took a long time to get married because she had a handful of rules. 1.00

00:05:32.000 She wanted him to marry another black guy. 1.00

00:05:37.000 She wanted him to be a Christian.

00:05:38.000 And this was the big one.

00:05:40.000 She wanted him to be taller than her.

00:05:42.000 And Lisa Leslie was 6 '7". 0.96

00:05:44.000 So her kids are going to be very tall.

00:05:46.000 Probably.

00:05:47.000 I haven't followed up on that.

00:05:49.000 But yeah, so this all happened, but then...

00:05:56.000 She was a big deal when she was playing Iowa. 1.00

00:05:59.000 I don't watch women's basketball. 0.82

00:06:00.000 Caitlin Clark played for Iowa.

00:06:02.000 She was getting all the attention.

00:06:04.000 They were selling out games.

00:06:06.000 It takes a lot to sell out a women's basketball game. 1.00

00:06:10.000 It's about at the level of JV high school basketball.

00:06:14.000 That's what they're really upset about.

00:06:16.000 is that Caitlin Clark is popular. 0.62

00:06:18.000 They're upset that...

00:06:26.000 It's never been a rating success.

00:06:28.000 None of those things have ever been true.

00:06:30.000 But then Caitlin Clark comes around and people are talking about the WNBA.

00:06:33.000 So all the black ladies are mad. 1.00

00:06:35.000 So this was the statement she gave.

00:06:36.000 So remember, you started this war, but this is the statement she gave in December.

00:06:40.000 Because I sent out one tweet.

00:06:41.000 December 2024, they named her athlete of the year at Time magazine.

00:06:45.000 And so she said in her interview.

00:06:48.000 I don't have video of it, so I don't know if there was a gun pointed at her head or if they were holding her family hostage.

00:06:54.000 But she said, I want to say I've earned everything, but as a white person, there is privilege.

00:06:59.000 A lot of the people who have made this league what it is are black women. 1.00

00:07:02.000 And you can't see this, but in the article, they're lower-casing white but capitalizing black, in case you weren't sure who's good and who's bad here.

00:07:11.000 The more we appreciate, highlight, and talk about that, the better.

00:07:15.000 Brands and companies need to continue investing in those players who have made this league extraordinary.

00:07:21.000 Elevating black women is a beautiful thing. 1.00

00:07:24.000 Yeah, who wrote that for you, first of all?

00:07:27.000 It's like a hostage situation.

00:07:29.000 Yeah, we have to check.

00:07:30.000 Were her eyes blinking in a certain way?

00:07:33.000 Please don't hurt me.

00:07:34.000 Please don't follow me any harder on the court.

00:07:37.000 And I think that statement was such an opportunity.

00:07:40.000 I mean, you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes, right?

00:07:42.000 We've all learned this years ago, that if you have nothing to hide and you have nothing to feel guilty of, don't fake apologize.

00:07:50.000 You don't win anything, right?

00:07:52.000 It's the people that hate you already are not going to come around and say, oh, look, they apologized, they put out this statement.

00:07:57.000 And then the people that had some respect because you actually stood up and meant something, well, now you've kind of minimized it.

00:08:04.000 Right?

00:08:05.000 It's like some of these comedians, you know, like Bill Burr has kind of gone in the complete opposite direction.

00:08:09.000 But when she put out that statement, I mean, I had so much hope for Caitlin being this person that was, she doesn't have to be political, she doesn't have to be right wing, but don't capitulate to their talking points and then everybody's mad at you.

00:08:20.000 It's a lose-lose.

00:08:22.000 I mean, and I just have to say, like, women's basketball is so unwatchable. 1.00

00:08:25.000 I'm sorry.

00:08:26.000 It's just, it is.

00:08:27.000 It's just such a low level of, it's, it just.

00:08:31.000 It's nothing against women. 1.00

00:08:33.000 I mean, they're trying their best.

00:08:33.000 nothing.

00:08:34.000 It's just such a it's really hard to watch.

00:08:39.000 Women's basketball is...

00:08:48.000 I mean, it's real bad.

00:08:50.000 And to Charlie's point, it really does look like you're watching JV basketball.

00:08:56.000 Now, no offense, there's some really good basketball players that are women, Caitlin Clark being one of them. 1.00

00:09:01.000 There are good sports that women play that are actually watchable. 0.83

00:09:05.000 Tennis, volleyball.

00:09:07.000 Blake maybe disagrees with me, but it's based on the look.

00:09:10.000 There's a few that are actually watchable.

00:09:13.000 I'll stand by that.

00:09:14.000 Gymnastics is pretty good.

00:09:16.000 Gymnastics?

00:09:17.000 I think that high-level Olympic gold medal match women's volleyball, not beach volleyball, actual volleyball, is very good to watch.

00:09:27.000 That is very intense, very high stakes.

00:09:31.000 Balls moving super fast.

00:09:32.000 Like, that is very athletic.

00:09:34.000 That's actually, I think, and I actually think it's more watchable than the men's volleyball because the men's volleyball, they are so athletic.

00:09:41.000 It's like whoever gets the ball has, like, very high probability just to spike it because they're so athletic.

00:09:48.000 That must be insane injuries.

00:09:50.000 No, that's right.

00:09:51.000 The men's volleyball has no volley.

00:09:51.000 Don't you agree, Andrew?

00:09:55.000 They're almost too likely to just side out instantly.

00:09:59.000 And whoever's got control of the ball, I actually really agree with that.

00:10:03.000 And it's a little bit more competitive with women's volleyball. 0.83

00:10:06.000 But by the way, I remember when the U.S. women's national team was winning World Cups, right?

00:10:06.000 Yes.

00:10:12.000 I mean, that was...

00:10:15.000 As a nation, we were really into that, right?

00:10:17.000 Before all the politicization of it.

00:10:19.000 No, that's true.

00:10:20.000 I remember.

00:10:22.000 Women's soccer is fine.

00:10:23.000 I mean, it's not my favorite to watch.

00:10:25.000 Women's tennis is watchable.

00:10:25.000 But there's something about women's basketball where it's such an aesthetic drop-off.

00:10:30.000 I don't mean aesthetic in a bad way, but it's such a visual drop-off from the pace and the passing and the shooting and the skill of men's basketball.

00:10:38.000 It's like your brain can't process it.

00:10:41.000 You know, it's so different.

00:10:42.000 You're like, okay, this is sophomore boys basketball.

00:10:45.000 Why do you guys, like, I actually enjoy college women's basketball.

00:10:51.000 I feel like so much more than I do pro.

00:10:54.000 I'm still not saying I prefer women's basketball over men's.

00:10:57.000 But, like, what do you think the drop-off is once, I mean, do you guys disagree with that?

00:11:01.000 Like, do you, you know, can you watch the Final Four on the women's side?

00:11:05.000 Like, I look at that as a completely different ballgame.

00:11:08.000 I mean, look at these montages.

00:11:10.000 I watch these for fun.

00:11:12.000 They are so horrific.

00:11:13.000 I don't know how anybody could pay money to be at these games.

00:11:15.000 Well, people tend to not pay money to be at those games, which is why it's been kind of a failure of a league.

00:11:21.000 And Kaitlin Clark's the best thing to have going for it.

00:11:24.000 I don't know what it is about basketball.

00:11:26.000 She legitimately makes shots that men couldn't make. 1.00

00:11:28.000 But also, guys, remember, sorry, keep going, Andrew, and then I have a point.

00:11:28.000 Oh, yeah.

00:11:31.000 Well, I just don't understand.

00:11:32.000 I don't know what it is specifically about the sport of basketball that tends to make the female form look uncomfortable. 1.00

00:11:40.000 You watch Caitlin Clark, and she looks kind of like a dude on the basketball court. 1.00

00:11:40.000 Candidly. 1.00

00:11:44.000 I mean, look at that.

00:11:45.000 That right there, that's legit.

00:11:47.000 Yeah, she does.

00:11:48.000 But there's something specific about that.

00:11:51.000 I actually really enjoy female college softball. 1.00

00:11:57.000 I had some friends that got me into it.

00:11:58.000 You know what?

00:11:58.000 More watchable than I thought when I was working out.

00:12:01.000 No, and they do these cheers, and it's really fun.

00:12:03.000 I actually think...

00:12:03.000 You're right.

00:12:04.000 I mean, softball is not...

00:12:06.000 I wouldn't go out of my way to watch it, but...

00:12:11.000 But female UFC fights, I know that's complicated. 1.00

00:12:16.000 Those women are amazing. 1.00

00:12:17.000 Some of those fights are incredible.

00:12:19.000 Whether or not you want your daughter to be doing that, that's a whole other topic.

00:12:23.000 but just pure entertainment value.

00:12:24.000 Those fights are incredible.

00:12:25.000 This is like nothing about for whatever reason, though, basketball is just not the, Well, remember also, women's basketball uses a smaller basketball than men.

00:12:36.000 I mean, it's literally a different sport.

00:12:38.000 I mean, where the ball is 28 1⁄2 inches, where the men's ball is much bigger than that.

00:12:44.000 And I was just trying to think of other sports that I don't watch any of them, but that are more watchable than female basketball. 1.00

00:12:52.000 Women's golf? 1.00

00:12:52.000 No, I don't watch golf. 1.00

00:12:54.000 Nah, I can't watch women's golf either. 1.00

00:12:56.000 Did you know there used to be, like, an alternative basketball for women? 1.00

00:12:59.000 Wasn't it, like, six on six?

00:13:00.000 It was six on six.

00:13:01.000 And it was very strange.

00:13:03.000 Like, you had three forwards and three defenders, and only, like, the forward people could shoot.

00:13:09.000 And then there was all this bizarre stuff.

00:13:12.000 I think you, like, couldn't dribble as much, something like that.

00:13:16.000 The fact that we have to talk about how can we change the game to make it entertaining tells you how not entertaining it is.

00:13:23.000 I guess gymnastics.

00:13:24.000 I'd actually prefer watching women's gymnastics than men's gymnastics.

00:13:27.000 Really, though?

00:13:28.000 Men's gymnastics is really impressive if you watch it.

00:13:31.000 I don't think about that.

00:13:32.000 No, I think you're probably...

00:13:35.000 People love watching it for the Olympics.

00:13:36.000 I would say it's pretty watchable though.

00:13:38.000 I'd say women's gymnastics is pretty watchable. 1.00

00:13:41.000 It rates during the Olympics.

00:13:42.000 And I'll also say that women's track and field is watchable.

00:13:46.000 Yep, I agree.

00:13:46.000 Women's figure skating?

00:13:47.000 Yep, for sure.

00:13:49.000 I actually think it's more watchable than men's figure skating.

00:13:51.000 It's just way too...

00:13:56.000 I'm going to say men's figure skating is very San Francisco.

00:14:00.000 I suppose so.

00:14:01.000 I mean it's usually pears isn't it it's culturally very culturally It's a cultural issue.

00:14:08.000 Let's just say it's not exactly...

00:14:14.000 Oh, I guess that also women's swimming. 1.00

00:14:16.000 I mean, that's fine to watch.

00:14:17.000 Like, Katie Ledecky was fun to watch during the Olympics. 0.99

00:14:20.000 It's just fun to watch your country win in the Olympics.

00:14:22.000 But, like, you wouldn't sit down and watch, like, on a Saturday.

00:14:26.000 No, but I tried to watch the women's, like, gold medal match in basketball, which I think we won.

00:14:30.000 It was like, wow, that was hard to watch.

00:14:32.000 Like, oof.

00:14:34.000 I'm surprised you spent time doing that, Charlie.

00:14:36.000 Well, I like the Olympics.

00:14:37.000 I love it.

00:14:37.000 I watched it for about 45 seconds, and then I went and did something more meaningful.

00:14:41.000 He was prepping to get this racehorse started doing his research.

00:14:43.000 Apparently, it's all my fault.

00:14:45.000 So, Blake, what would you say to someone that says, because I got some mean tweets from people.

00:14:50.000 It's not racial against Caitlin Clark.

00:14:50.000 Oh, yeah, I really care.

00:14:53.000 Come on.

00:14:54.000 There's other white women in the NBA or WNBA. 1.00

00:14:57.000 I mean, all I would say is I don't think – Like, there really is a thing where you started getting these articles, like, while she was still in college, about people just bothered that she was getting too much attention or that it was, like, they would use the language, like, colonialism.

00:15:20.000 They were like, how this, like, white person is colonizing our league.

00:15:24.000 Like they have ownership of this sport.

00:15:33.000 And then other elements where they were mad.

00:15:36.000 Oh, they're promoting Caitlin Clark because she is more clean cut. 0.99

00:15:42.000 She has a boyfriend, so she's not a lesbian like a lot of the players in the WNBA are. 1.00

00:15:47.000 I think she's Catholic.

00:15:49.000 She has a good image, basically.

00:15:51.000 It's like, okay.

00:15:53.000 Yeah.

00:15:54.000 Leagues do better when they have people who have positive Images that families like it.

00:16:00.000 Make your daughter like Caitlin Clark.

00:16:02.000 Do you know 26% of the WNBA is openly lesbian?

00:16:05.000 That is a very high rate.

00:16:08.000 That cannot be true.

00:16:09.000 26%?

00:16:11.000 26%.

00:16:11.000 That means it's probably closer to 35% or 40% in real life.

00:16:17.000 Here's the other one.

00:16:18.000 According to innerbasket.com, they say it's between 30% to 58%.

00:16:22.000 See?

00:16:25.000 That's like a very wide range.

00:16:27.000 It's because they're approximated.

00:16:29.000 It's still high.

00:16:29.000 I don't think they send out surveys.

00:16:31.000 Well, why not?

00:16:32.000 We should collect more data on that.

00:16:33.000 We should just be like, oh, you got to...

00:16:36.000 If you enter the WNBA, you have to answer a million questions. 0.97

00:16:39.000 Remember when Brittany Griner, who got released from prison thanks to Trump, appeared to call...

00:16:47.000 Yeah, it was Biden.

00:16:48.000 We traded some massive international terrorist for her. 1.00

00:16:52.000 She called Caitlin Clark an effing white girl. 1.00

00:16:57.000 Just call it trash and effing white girl. 1.00

00:16:59.000 Yeah, if someone said effing black girl about a player in the WNBA, Yeah, like Minneapolis would burn. 1.00

00:17:05.000 It would be the number one news story.

00:17:08.000 That person would be deleted off the face of the planet.

00:17:10.000 And there would be a federal hate crime investigation.

00:17:12.000 Quite possibly, yeah.

00:17:14.000 Especially under Biden.

00:17:15.000 And we'd get one of those civil rights cases where they would go into the entire WNBA and find how there was systemic discrimination that led to this outcome. 0.99

00:17:25.000 Which is actually, circling back around, that's how that six-on-six basketball went away.

00:17:29.000 It didn't go away because people organically didn't like it.

00:17:33.000 It went away because activists were mad and they got, I'm not making this up, the Office of Civil Rights.

00:17:40.000 Either the DOJ or the Department of Education to say it was a violation of Title IX to have girls play this sport because they were less likely to get a scholarship for basketball at the college level. 0.99

00:17:54.000 Unbelievable.

00:17:54.000 They've been inventing extremely deranged and insane civil rights justifications for everything they want to do for half a century.

00:18:04.000 Blake, I have a question for you.

00:18:06.000 Why is the WNBA still afloat? 1.00

00:18:08.000 Who's covering the losses?

00:18:10.000 I think they're a subsidiary of the NBA.

00:18:13.000 There's a direct relationship between the two.

00:18:15.000 Let me tell you, there was this great article written in 2018 by an activist, Tho Bishop, and he got just destroyed for it.

00:18:24.000 It was like, why WNBA players are overpaid? 0.98

00:18:27.000 And this is 18, right?

00:18:28.000 This is before we got our country back.

00:18:31.000 We had Trump in the White House, but the woke was really coming on.

00:18:36.000 And it's just funny because, yeah, he details.

00:18:38.000 Listen, the NBA is just paying these people, right?

00:18:41.000 If you look at the revenue that comes in, it's not just that they take a loss.

00:18:44.000 It's that the NBA just doesn't want to deal with the pushback from the activists, and so they just float the bill for this.

00:18:50.000 I mean, there's a reason they never take the camera angle and take it to the crowd.

00:18:56.000 I mean, look at the angles on those games.

00:18:58.000 It's like Congress, right?

00:18:59.000 They keep the angle so you can't see you're in an empty room, but the NBA is paying for all of this.

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00:19:56.000 It may not be available in all 50 states.

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00:20:01.000 So according to this, the revenue for the WNBA was $200 million in 2023. 0.76

00:20:13.000 It's now $710 million, and it will break a billion this year because of Caitlin Clark.

00:20:19.000 She has contributed to a 48% increase in attendance and record-breaking TV ratings.

00:20:24.000 You know how people say that they don't recognize the country they live in due to social changes or immigration or whatever?

00:20:31.000 That's how I feel when I hear a story like that.

00:20:33.000 Could you imagine sitting at home and voluntarily watching the WNBA?

00:20:37.000 There's a question I like to ask, which is, I like to ask people this.

00:20:42.000 Would you rather find a $2 bill on the sidewalk I don't know.

00:20:52.000 I don't know my local WNBA team.

00:20:54.000 That is the correct answer is, I don't know if iSound has a WNBA team.

00:20:58.000 Does...

00:20:59.000 I don't even...

00:21:01.000 Let me see.

00:21:02.000 What is Phoenix WNBA team? 1.00

00:21:06.000 Probably some weird name like the Cactus or something.

00:21:09.000 Or the Sky.

00:21:10.000 The Mercury.

00:21:11.000 It's Mercury.

00:21:13.000 Okay.

00:21:14.000 Mercury?

00:21:15.000 Yeah.

00:21:16.000 Mercury.

00:21:17.000 There you go.

00:21:18.000 They're off to a 4-1 record, despite the absence of key player Kalia Copper.

00:21:25.000 Is that true, or could that be like a hallucination by an AI?

00:21:28.000 It could be.

00:21:29.000 I don't know.

00:21:31.000 You know what I think?

00:21:31.000 This is a case of they, you know, you have a small pond, right?

00:21:35.000 And all these big time stars before Caitlin gets there, they want a big pond, right? 0.99

00:21:40.000 They want this huge, They're still a small fish.

00:21:44.000 I mean, it's just a total...

00:21:47.000 So what do you do?

00:21:49.000 You foul her hard and you call her white trash. 1.00

00:21:51.000 There's only 13 teams.

00:21:53.000 That bothers me because it's not even.

00:21:55.000 I kind of love how feminine they've chose these names.

00:21:58.000 They're like not that.

00:22:00.000 You know how the men, it's like the Golden State Warriors or the Timberwolves.

00:22:04.000 Let's listen to some of these.

00:22:05.000 The Atlanta Dream.

00:22:07.000 The Chicago Sky.

00:22:09.000 The Connecticut Sun.

00:22:12.000 You ready for an intense one?

00:22:13.000 The Indiana Fever.

00:22:16.000 New York Liberty.

00:22:18.000 The Washington Mystics.

00:22:21.000 Here we go.

00:22:22.000 The Dallas Wings.

00:22:24.000 The Las Vegas Aces.

00:22:26.000 The Los Angeles Sparks.

00:22:30.000 Blake, I will give you $100 if you get the name the Minnesota WNBA team.

00:22:35.000 You know, what's going to be really terrible?

00:22:37.000 I do know that Minnesota doesn't.

00:22:40.000 Minnesota Lynx.

00:22:41.000 Sorry, I'll give you $100.

00:22:42.000 Why in Seattle?

00:22:43.000 I did this to humiliate you.

00:22:47.000 Being a dork, I would read the newspaper every day growing up, and I would check.

00:22:52.000 They had this big detailed sports thing, and I knew I would look at what the frickin'– This is shameful.

00:23:03.000 This is a Seattle storm.

00:23:05.000 That's a pretty good one.

00:23:06.000 Yes, but just for the record, Blake could have pretended like he didn't know, but he wanted that $100.

00:23:10.000 I did.

00:23:11.000 And then the Seattle Storm, and then the Golden State Valkyries. 0.80

00:23:15.000 You see, if you'd asked me that one, I wouldn't have known.

00:23:18.000 Valkyries is a pretty good women's sports team name. 1.00

00:23:21.000 That's good.

00:23:22.000 It is a women thing that is cool. 1.00

00:23:24.000 But Atlanta Dream.

00:23:26.000 Atlanta Dream.

00:23:27.000 Philadelphia is not on the list.

00:23:29.000 I don't know the answer.

00:23:30.000 You tell me they're not listed.

00:23:31.000 Is it Seoul?

00:23:33.000 No, they don't have one.

00:23:34.000 They don't have one.

00:23:35.000 Okay.

00:23:36.000 No.

00:23:36.000 Lucky you.

00:23:37.000 But the Connecticut Sun.

00:23:40.000 Connecticut Sun.

00:23:42.000 It's like the least sunny place.

00:23:43.000 As opposed to the Phoenix Suns, which is plural and therefore cool.

00:23:46.000 I know, it's just the Sun.

00:23:47.000 They're just like one thing.

00:23:48.000 They're the Sun.

00:23:49.000 One Sun.

00:23:50.000 Tonight we're going to go watch the Sun play.

00:23:52.000 How awful is that?

00:23:54.000 That's like a thing they do now.

00:23:55.000 Like in the NHL, the two new teams they've added, they added the Seattle Kraken.

00:24:01.000 Not Krakens, just Kraken.

00:24:03.000 And then now Salt Lake, they actually got the Phoenix Coyotes team that they disbanded.

00:24:07.000 And they're just mammoth.

00:24:09.000 They're the Utah mammoth.

00:24:10.000 So maybe I'm wrong because I was a huge Blackhawks fan growing up.

00:24:15.000 Has the NHL popularity gone down?

00:24:17.000 I think it has.

00:24:18.000 I mean, I was really into the NHL because it was huge.

00:24:21.000 I mean, Blackhawks fever took over, and we won three Stanley Cups, and it was incredible.

00:24:26.000 But I feel like the NHL has gone down, too.

00:24:29.000 It's actually done okay.

00:24:30.000 What's happened is I remember growing up they were really bad in the Sun Belt, and now they've kind of gotten over that.

00:24:37.000 So, for example, in Tampa, the Tampa Bay baseball team does pretty horribly in terms of attendance.

00:24:43.000 The Tampa Bay...

00:24:55.000 They do pretty well.

00:24:55.000 And that's kind of been who's dominating because the, I think the Nashville team does well.

00:25:02.000 And I think there's also one in Miami.

00:25:04.000 And like they've all, and the Carolina one, they've all done really well.

00:25:07.000 In fact, pretty much the only Sunbelt hockey team that was a dumpster fire and nobody liked going to them was...

00:25:14.000 Oh, really?

00:25:15.000 Yep, they folded and they moved to Utah.

00:25:18.000 So, Charlie, right, though.

00:25:20.000 Regular season games, like viewership, were about half a million in 2014 to 2015, and they've dropped to 385,000.

00:25:30.000 Between 2019-2020.

00:25:33.000 This article is from 2023.

00:25:35.000 And it's changes in media consumption, regionalization of NHL broadcasts, low scoring, lack of star power, and they say COVID-19 impact.

00:25:44.000 Let me tell you why it's also dropping.

00:25:47.000 I'm a season ticket holder for the Flyers and they're horrible.

00:25:50.000 So I don't usually admit that in public, but I've had them for three or four years and I actually just dropped them because after we won the election, uh, I mean, some cities, it's just not going to be because of the cities, but, like, it's pretty red.

00:26:09.000 And after we won the election, Gritty, our great mascot, goes on ice with a trans flag, like, during Pride Day. 0.75

00:26:18.000 And it was just, like, so tone deaf.

00:26:20.000 And I, like, flipped out.

00:26:22.000 I'm like, look, I'm paying all this money.

00:26:24.000 I had an activist with me who's obviously right-wing, and we're sitting there having to deal with this.

00:26:29.000 I think they're one of the last leagues.

00:26:31.000 They're moving slowly, some of them, but they just double down and don't understand their audience.

00:26:36.000 It's pretty bad.

00:26:37.000 And it really just kind of goes to show how popular football is.

00:26:41.000 I mean, it just dwarfs these other sports.

00:26:44.000 I mean, it's not even close.

00:26:46.000 I mean, I'm told the Thunder are in the NBA Finals.

00:26:52.000 Isn't he like Russell Westbrook?

00:26:54.000 Oh, he's gone now.

00:26:55.000 I think he's still in the league, but he's not with the...

00:26:59.000 No, no, you're way out of date, man.

00:27:01.000 I don't even know where Durant is.

00:27:03.000 He's on the Suns, isn't he?

00:27:05.000 I stopped watching 10 years ago.

00:27:07.000 That's what I was going to say, Charlie.

00:27:08.000 You're about 10 years out.

00:27:10.000 I can't name a single NBA player on the Thunder.

00:27:14.000 I want to respond.

00:27:17.000 So Patty Luke in our chat says, nothing like four men who don't play sports going after the WNBA.

00:27:22.000 You guys have no business bashing these women who would clean your clocks if you had the... 1.00

00:27:35.000 Not all.

00:27:37.000 I could.

00:27:37.000 I could challenge the bottom 25% of WNBA players.

00:27:42.000 The bottom 25%. 0.87

00:27:44.000 If I could get my back fixed and I have three months of proper preparation, I could beat them one-on-one.

00:27:49.000 You think I'm joking.

00:27:51.000 I'm 6 '5".

00:27:52.000 I played competitive Midwest AAU basketball.

00:27:56.000 I was really good at basketball, too, by the way.

00:27:59.000 For the record.

00:28:00.000 Again, I'm taller than the bottom 25%.

00:28:03.000 If I have prop, again, the problem is my back is a complete, and you guys know, my back is a catastrophe.

00:28:12.000 Glad we got that clarified.

00:28:12.000 We fixed that problem.

00:28:14.000 Actually, you know what?

00:28:15.000 Daisy, if you go to my Instagram, like seven or eight years ago, I've seen the real.

00:28:23.000 Yeah, right?

00:28:23.000 There was like a montage.

00:28:25.000 Yeah, not just the high school ones.

00:28:26.000 I used to do...

00:28:32.000 Dave, we should play some.

00:28:33.000 Go ahead.

00:28:34.000 And by the way, I'm not trying to, like, but dear Patty, I mean, I was a first-team All-State football player.

00:28:39.000 Boom.

00:28:40.000 Oh, here we go.

00:28:41.000 Yeah, like, I don't go around saying that, but if she's going to come at me, bro.

00:28:45.000 I need the highlight reel of Colvette.

00:28:47.000 Actually, I did have one, but, you know, I don't know what happened to her.

00:28:51.000 Did you guys win State?

00:28:53.000 We run her up in State.

00:28:55.000 Why didn't you play college football?

00:28:57.000 I actually went out for one day.

00:29:00.000 It's complicated.

00:29:01.000 I went out for one day, though, at UW Open Field.

00:29:04.000 You could have walked on.

00:29:05.000 No, the coaches found out.

00:29:07.000 I didn't actually think I was going to play in college.

00:29:08.000 I had no desire, but they found it on my application or whatever, and they invited me out for an Open Field day.

00:29:15.000 I forget the guy's name.

00:29:16.000 It was Isaiah something or other.

00:29:18.000 Anyways, he was a five-star recruit.

00:29:20.000 He's a wide out.

00:29:21.000 And like, he happened to be out there one day and I got, And the guy just flew by me by about 10 miles per hour faster than me.

00:29:32.000 And I was just like, yeah, it's not going to happen.

00:29:34.000 What's the point?

00:29:35.000 Like, what's the point?

00:29:38.000 High school level, I was good.

00:29:40.000 She's striking out.

00:29:41.000 I was a collegiate golfer.

00:29:42.000 I never talk about that.

00:29:44.000 Might have been D2.

00:29:45.000 Might have got a couple thousand bucks.

00:29:47.000 But yeah, we're not talking to no athletes here.

00:29:49.000 Yeah.

00:29:50.000 And Blake can bench like 300 pounds, Patty.

00:29:53.000 Little known fact, Blake can actually bench with the best of them.

00:29:57.000 It's true.

00:29:59.000 He lasted longer than Shane Gillis.

00:30:01.000 He lasted two hours on the Notre Dame football team.

00:30:04.000 Or excuse me, was it West Point?

00:30:06.000 He wanted to go to Notre Dame.

00:30:07.000 But he lasted two hours on the football team and quit college.

00:30:11.000 Anyway, even if we couldn't beat the WNBA players, it is noteworthy that we don't have the NBA subsidizing us for millions of dollars a year.

00:30:19.000 Correct.

00:30:20.000 To go play basketball.

00:30:21.000 We justify our own existence here.

00:30:22.000 Yes, we are self-sustainable.

00:30:26.000 I do think we should make this happen, though.

00:30:29.000 We're going to get your back fixed.

00:30:30.000 I've got to get my back surgery done.

00:30:32.000 I need three months to prepare.

00:30:34.000 And then we find someone recently cut from a WNBA team, maybe.

00:30:38.000 And I will pay her a ton of money just to do it, and we'll film it, and we'll see if I win.

00:30:44.000 So what will we do if...

00:30:46.000 If I lose?

00:30:47.000 I don't want to say it's likely, but...

00:30:51.000 I mean, again.

00:30:54.000 I'm six foot five.

00:30:55.000 I'm not going to lose bad.

00:30:57.000 Who did Ted Cruz play basketball with?

00:31:00.000 Was it Jimmy Kimmel?

00:31:02.000 Somebody on the left.

00:31:04.000 And it was the most cringeworthy thing to watch.

00:31:07.000 Yes, I remember this.

00:31:11.000 I think it was Kimmel.

00:31:12.000 I could be wrong.

00:31:13.000 Yeah, it was probably Kimmel.

00:31:15.000 Let me see.

00:31:16.000 I'm trying to find this.

00:31:17.000 Jimmy Kimmel.

00:31:18.000 Ted Cruz outlasts Jimmy Kimmel in grueling blobfish basketball on Texas Tribune.

00:31:24.000 Oh my gosh, this is hilarious.

00:31:29.000 Alright, we're going to find my old trick shots.

00:31:32.000 Okay, Epstein.

00:31:33.000 All right, so this has been...

00:31:38.000 So Epstein died almost six years ago now.

00:31:41.000 Feels like time has flown.

00:31:42.000 Anyway.

00:31:46.000 A lot of people have very strong opinions on it.

00:31:49.000 Now, the FBI, and this is not Biden's FBI, this is Trump's new FBI, they're coming out and they're saying Epstein actually did kill himself, and they say they have video evidence to prove it.

00:32:01.000 Play cut 341.

00:32:01.000 Let's play it.

00:32:03.000 There is nothing in the file at this point on the Epstein case, and there's going to be a disclosure on this coming shortly.

00:32:09.000 We are working through some...

00:32:11.000 There is video.

00:32:13.000 That is something the public does.

00:32:16.000 No, no, not the actual act.

00:32:19.000 We are working on cleaning it up to make sure you have an enhanced...

00:32:25.000 You're going to see there's no one there but him.

00:32:27.000 There's just nobody there.

00:32:28.000 I trust Dan completely.

00:32:30.000 It's still a tough pill to swallow.

00:32:33.000 I'm just going to be honest.

00:32:34.000 I trust Cash and Dan.

00:32:36.000 I want to see what they're looking at.

00:32:37.000 It does seem too clean.

00:32:40.000 And I would say, I think we should be open to, there's conspiracies that you could embrace that don't require someone to have murdered him.

00:32:46.000 Or they could have threatened him.

00:32:48.000 They could have threatened him.

00:32:49.000 They could have said, like, time's up, time to kill yourself.

00:32:51.000 Like, he could have arranged to make it so he could kill himself if he wanted to do that because they were supposed to stop him.

00:32:59.000 And so you can have conspiracies that work that way instead of requiring a murder action.

00:33:04.000 But, you know, it is interesting that obviously people have been very invested in it.

00:33:09.000 Do you think people will ever be...

00:33:13.000 Would people be willing to buy it?

00:33:15.000 I just feel like they'll probably...

00:33:18.000 I mean, I guess here's the problem that I have.

00:33:21.000 Weren't we once told that all the cameras were turned off and that there was a changing of the guard?

00:33:27.000 Right, Cliff?

00:33:27.000 I'm drawing on five years' memory here.

00:33:30.000 But wasn't all this sus thing where the guard fell asleep or he wasn't on his post?

00:33:37.000 Am I right about this?

00:33:39.000 And that was like the first thing they put out was, oh, the video cameras weren't working.

00:33:43.000 And that's why we all immediately were like, come on, you've got to be kidding me.

00:33:46.000 There's no way you can just say that and act like it's that clean.

00:33:50.000 So Epstein was taken off suicide watch shortly before his death, despite a prior incident.

00:33:59.000 And then guards failed to check on him as required, and cameras outside his cell reportedly malfunctioned.

00:34:06.000 But Dan's saying there's video, so I don't know if they malfunctioned or they just didn't want to report it, or some of them malfunctioned and others were working.

00:34:17.000 I don't know.

00:34:18.000 I can tell you a lot of the people I'm talking to are not buying it.

00:34:23.000 They're not buying this claim?

00:34:25.000 What Dan is saying.

00:34:26.000 On what grounds?

00:34:27.000 They just say it's too good to be.

00:34:30.000 It's just like there's no way that.

00:34:38.000 I don't buy that.

00:34:40.000 but I'm not saying that.

00:34:40.000 No, but that's the...

00:34:44.000 No, but I guess the camera's not working.

00:34:47.000 And then there was something with the guard, too.

00:34:49.000 What was it with the guard?

00:34:50.000 The guards failed to check on him.

00:34:52.000 Yeah, so they fell asleep.

00:34:54.000 They didn't check on him.

00:34:56.000 He wasn't in a suicide-proof room.

00:34:59.000 So people point to all this and are...

00:35:03.000 Yeah, it was Tova Noel and Michael Thomas were the two guards and they were accused of falling asleep and surfing the internet that right rather than checking on Epstein every 30 minutes.

00:35:16.000 That's like one of the kind of darkly funny thing about this is really you're debating between there's no way they could have missed this.

00:35:23.000 It had to be a conspiracy and just absolutely.

00:35:34.000 And, you know, they probably didn't even know Epstein was that famous of a guy.

00:35:39.000 And the visitor log went missing.

00:35:40.000 I think that was the other element that people were, like, really sussed about.

00:35:44.000 And then that's the same thing.

00:35:46.000 Like, they just, oh, bad record keeping.

00:35:47.000 They screw everything up.

00:35:49.000 The top five things that would make, you know, alarm bells go off.

00:35:52.000 Like, they checked every box.

00:35:54.000 And they put it all out immediately.

00:35:56.000 So we were all like, there's just no way this wasn't a hit job.

00:36:00.000 But if Dan says it, I'm with you, Charlie.

00:36:03.000 I want to see what they're looking at.

00:36:04.000 What are they looking at to be that confident?

00:36:07.000 Well, there was also an issue with the autopsy findings, right?

00:36:10.000 So it showed a broken hyoid bone or something that some experts argue are more consistent with strangulation than hanging.

00:36:21.000 And wasn't it like Epstein's brother?

00:36:23.000 Who came out and was convinced he didn't kill himself?

00:36:26.000 He went on Tucker's show and was like, there's no way he killed himself.

00:36:31.000 I think there was something.

00:36:32.000 Mark Epstein.

00:36:33.000 Am I right?

00:36:34.000 I think Mark Epstein was his brother.

00:36:35.000 He went on Tucker's show and said that.

00:36:38.000 Yeah, that was in January of last year.

00:36:41.000 Although, I don't recall what specific arguments he made.

00:36:43.000 Was Epstein even that particularly close with his brother?

00:36:47.000 I don't know.

00:36:48.000 Again, I'm just drawing from memory on this.

00:36:52.000 I do feel like we're trending towards a thing where it'll just be part of that permanent conspiracy canon, and it could get weirder and weirder as a result.

00:37:01.000 And eventually these things cross over.

00:37:02.000 It'll turn out that Epstein was murdered because he knew the truth about the 9-11 conspiracies.

00:37:07.000 And that that was done because Building 7 had the truth about the JFK conspiracies, and JFK had to be taken out because he knew the truth about the Pearl Harbor conspiracies.

00:37:19.000 Now we're getting somewhere.

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00:38:26.000 What's also interesting about this is one of Epstein's victims, Virginia Guffrey, She just committed suicide, or allegedly committed suicide.

00:38:35.000 And her father, Skye Roberts, expressed disbelief about this, saying, for them to say she committed suicide, there's no way that she did.

00:38:44.000 Somebody got to her.

00:38:46.000 So, apparently in 2019, she said, she wrote, I'm not suicidal.

00:38:51.000 If something happens to me in the sake of my family, do not let this go away or help me protect them.

00:38:57.000 Too many evil people want me quieted.

00:39:01.000 Yeah, and Mark Epstein, the brother, he did.

00:39:04.000 He maintained for years that there's no way that Jeffrey would have killed himself.

00:39:07.000 So that is confirmed.

00:39:08.000 How many years ago was this that he committed suicide or died?

00:39:11.000 It was like August 19, I believe.

00:39:13.000 I remember where I was.

00:39:14.000 I was at Liberty University when that happened.

00:39:18.000 So you're saying you have an alibi?

00:39:19.000 I do.

00:39:20.000 And I had witnesses.

00:39:22.000 Okay, I mean...

00:39:24.000 You say so.

00:39:25.000 I do.

00:39:25.000 Can you name the witnesses?

00:39:27.000 Erica.

00:39:28.000 Dave Brat.

00:39:28.000 Oh, so your wife is your alibi.

00:39:31.000 And Dave Brat.

00:39:32.000 Okay, alright.

00:39:33.000 I remember Dave Brat was teaching a course on Aristotle and all of a sudden everyone's phone started to light up.

00:39:38.000 And Yakko Boyens and David Harris Jr. and David Harris was like, Epstein just killed himself.

00:39:44.000 And that's them we all talked about for the next hour.

00:39:48.000 It's true.

00:39:50.000 And Charlie was just, you know, a little bit quiet.

00:39:52.000 He was like, oh, that's so shocking.

00:39:55.000 What do the comments say?

00:39:56.000 What are the people saying?

00:39:58.000 Let's see.

00:40:00.000 Donnie Double says, me thinks the FBI protests too much.

00:40:03.000 I can see that, but I'm with Charlie.

00:40:05.000 I don't think Dan Bongino went into the FBI and suddenly got bought off.

00:40:10.000 No, I don't believe that.

00:40:11.000 I don't believe that at all.

00:40:12.000 I think Dan's great.

00:40:14.000 I want to see what he's looking at.

00:40:15.000 I just still find it's just I was personally very convinced otherwise, I want to see what they're looking at.

00:40:24.000 But I trust Dan.

00:40:25.000 Dan and Cash are great.

00:40:27.000 So the other interesting aspect of the Epstein thing, right?

00:40:31.000 You've got this Alexander Acosta, who was the Trump Labor Secretary during the first term.

00:40:37.000 Yeah, this is such.

00:40:38.000 And he was the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Florida in 2007 and 2008.

00:40:44.000 And he negotiated a very controversial non-prosecution agreement with Epstein, allowing him to plead guilty to lesser charges, whatever.

00:40:53.000 He only served 13 months.

00:40:54.000 So reportedly he told Trump's transition team in 2017 that he was instructed to quote unquote back off Epstein because he quote belonged to intelligence and was quote above his pay grade.

00:41:07.000 And it came up in those discussions because they were worried it was going to be an issue with.

00:41:16.000 All these things around Epstein, I think it just makes it harder to believe Dan.

00:41:25.000 By the way, I kind of feel bad for Dan, because like you, Charlie, I trust Dan's integrity, but he's getting dragged online.

00:41:33.000 Because he was very vocal before he went into the FBI that Epstein didn't kill himself.

00:41:39.000 Yeah, and it's a multiple element thing here, right?

00:41:42.000 Because you can imagine that there is a lot of pressure internally from people he's trying to win trust over that are like, Dan, you have to show us that you're actually going to work with us or else you'll have mass internal dissension.

00:41:59.000 Do you know what I mean?

00:42:01.000 And he probably was like, well, show me everything, show me everything, show me everything.

00:42:05.000 Yeah, I feel like if he was truly trying to, you know, lead us astray, it would be way easier to just not talk about it much or say like, oh, you know, we don't know.

00:42:15.000 He's actually putting himself out there saying like, I have looked at the evidence and I believe it is strong.

00:42:21.000 I'm agreeing with that.

00:42:23.000 I'm just, I'm saying it's just a tough, it's a tough reality to reckon with.

00:42:27.000 Because I was convinced he didn't kill himself.

00:42:29.000 I was like, no way.

00:42:31.000 Well, Dan knows the base, too.

00:42:32.000 That's one of the reasons I think Dan is going after what the base – But you notice some of these other things are starting to happen, kind of going back to Crossfire Hurricane.

00:42:51.000 You are.

00:42:51.000 You're going to see some stuff.

00:42:52.000 I can't say any more than that, but you'll see some stuff.

00:42:56.000 Good.

00:42:57.000 Okay, Charlie.

00:42:57.000 Just some stuff.

00:42:58.000 I don't know what that means.

00:42:59.000 You're going to see some stuff.

00:43:00.000 You're going to see some stuff.

00:43:02.000 We're going to see things we wouldn't believe.

00:43:04.000 You're just going to see some stuff.

00:43:05.000 What did you see in the Oval, Charlie?

00:43:08.000 It's funny.

00:43:09.000 I spent a lot of time talking about William Henry Harrison.

00:43:11.000 Really?

00:43:11.000 Because his portrait is right there as you enter.

00:43:13.000 Why do they have a portrait of him there?

00:43:15.000 It's just kind of a fun irony that things can end in a way that you don't anticipate.

00:43:21.000 Is it always there or is that like a Trump installation?

00:43:22.000 No.

00:43:22.000 The president has turned the Oval Office into a remarkable museum.

00:43:27.000 Where it is literally every square, you know, it's kind of like that club we went into London, where there was paintings everywhere.

00:43:34.000 Every square inch of the Oval now has some historic artifact.

00:43:37.000 He just keeps ordering more stuff from the archives.

00:43:39.000 Does he have like every single president?

00:43:41.000 No, just about.

00:43:42.000 I mean, so he's got Reagan right there behind where he does the press conferences. 0.69

00:43:44.000 He's got Andrew Jackson, he's got Washington above that.

00:43:47.000 But you could spend literally an hour in the Oval just looking at all the art.

00:43:52.000 Biden had it very bare.

00:43:54.000 He had like Bobby Kennedy and nothing.

00:43:55.000 Trump is like, it's like a historical just.

00:43:58.000 You know what's weird about that, though, Charlie?

00:44:02.000 So William Henry Harrison is the...

00:44:09.000 Because of the inauguration speech.

00:44:11.000 Yeah, he gave a cold inauguration speech, which is ironic because Trump called the inauguration into the Capitol because it was so cold.

00:44:17.000 Exactly.

00:44:18.000 That's right.

00:44:19.000 funny.

00:44:20.000 So, um, looked at the Polk picture of, I think that is the original Declaration.

00:44:27.000 Do we have multiples?

00:44:28.000 Because we have one that's in the National Archives, correct?

00:44:30.000 I don't know which one this is.

00:44:31.000 This one has curtains, though, where they're worried about light contamination.

00:44:35.000 It might be that we have several copies.

00:44:37.000 Whatever it is, it's important enough.

00:44:38.000 I feel like I would have heard about him removing the one that's at the Archives.

00:44:42.000 No, I think the founders did multiple.

00:44:44.000 Yeah, yeah, exactly.

00:44:44.000 Meaning these are not copies.

00:44:46.000 I think when the time, they did multiple.

00:44:48.000 Maybe it was the one stolen by Nicolas Cage in that movie.

00:44:50.000 Yes, National Treasure.

00:44:51.000 Yeah.

00:44:52.000 And it has a treasure map on the back of it.

00:44:55.000 We should have Dan Bongino find out if that's real.

00:44:58.000 Oh, it's real.

00:44:59.000 Okay, well we should announce it then.

00:45:01.000 We should go get the treasure.

00:45:02.000 Or find out, or get it back from Nick Cage.

00:45:05.000 I feel like if I wanted to do a national treasure treasure hunt, I would take Blake with me.

00:45:09.000 That could work.

00:45:10.000 He would crack it much quicker than Nicolas Cage.

00:45:12.000 Ringing endorsement.

00:45:13.000 They had to take the paintings down because they were distracting Biden.

00:45:17.000 Yeah.

00:45:18.000 You keep trying to talk to them.

00:45:19.000 You thought they were visiting.

00:45:20.000 Listen, William.

00:45:22.000 You keep looking at me over there.

00:45:25.000 I hung out with you in France in 1997.

00:45:29.000 I was a bully to Corn Pop. 0.99

00:45:31.000 Corn Pop was a bad dude.

00:45:34.000 Trump should get a painting of Corn Pop and put it in the office.

00:45:37.000 And Corn Pop was a bad dude.

00:45:40.000 He was a bad dude.

00:45:41.000 It could be a warning that there are bad people.

00:45:43.000 It's still one of my favorite Joe Biden speeches that doesn't get enough attention.

00:45:47.000 Was the corn pop rant.

00:45:48.000 It's so good.

00:45:49.000 What doesn't get enough attention from Joe Biden in general from the right, like the left would highlight this, the New York Times would highlight this, his tendency to tell stories and just completely change the facts about them.

00:46:00.000 All of them.

00:46:00.000 And just lie.

00:46:02.000 The one about why he was pro-gay rights. 0.87

00:46:03.000 Do you remember that one?

00:46:04.000 No.

00:46:05.000 That he would tell this story that when he was a boy, he was with his dad.

00:46:10.000 And so, you know, when he's a boy with his dad, you know, in the, like, 50s or 60s, that they saw two men, like, kissing in public.

00:46:17.000 And he was like, Daddy, what are they doing?

00:46:19.000 He's like they love each other boy.

00:46:21.000 And he's like, and that's when I realized that gay It's a complete fabrication. 1.00

00:46:26.000 Not only that, he sometimes would tell the story and make it so he was the dad explaining it to his kids.

00:46:31.000 So he would just totally transplant the facts as needed.

00:46:34.000 I mean, it could have happened twice.

00:46:35.000 History repeating itself.

00:46:37.000 Didn't he lie about getting arrested in Africa or something like that?

00:46:42.000 Yeah, he claimed he got arrested for protesting apartheid in South Africa.

00:46:47.000 How many different kinds of churches did he go to?

00:46:50.000 He grew up in a Puerto Rican church.

00:46:52.000 A ton.

00:46:52.000 And a mosque.

00:46:53.000 The other amazing one.

00:46:54.000 A synagogue. 0.56

00:46:54.000 Going back to your UK trip, he once plagiarized Neil Kinnock, who was the head of the Labor Party at the time, where he... 0.56

00:47:09.000 And it was a very personal story about why there was so much inequality, because he was a left-wing politician.

00:47:15.000 And Biden ripped off this speech but made it about his family.

00:47:19.000 So it's like, why did my grandfather have to work in a coal mine?

00:47:24.000 And his grandfather did not...

00:47:27.000 He was like the oppressor of the minors.

00:47:29.000 That's why he dropped out in – it was 88. He dropped out.

00:47:39.000 Yeah.

00:47:41.000 This is my half-court shot at Liberty.

00:47:44.000 This is when I heard Epstein was dead.

00:47:45.000 Playcut 405.

00:47:47.000 See?

00:47:48.000 My best Caitlin Clark impersonation.

00:47:50.000 First take.

00:47:52.000 There you go.

00:47:53.000 I got tons of these.

00:47:55.000 First take.

00:47:56.000 Come on.

00:47:57.000 I used to do half-court shots all the time.

00:47:59.000 This is a Bongino video moment.

00:48:01.000 We're going to need to see you physically walking.

00:48:03.000 I need to see the before and after.

00:48:05.000 I need to see the real before.

00:48:07.000 I'm just telling you, once I get my back shots, you guys can come to the gym with me.

00:48:11.000 I'm going to need some back shots.

00:48:13.000 I mean, once I get my freaking cortisone, whatever the heck that's going on.

00:48:17.000 Back is a disaster.

00:48:19.000 All right, we have five minutes.

00:48:20.000 AI.

00:48:21.000 All right, AI.

00:48:22.000 And that's not an AI video.

00:48:23.000 We keep covering AI like every week because it keeps getting like, I think they say that the capabilities of AI are doubling about every six And it's entirely believable.

00:48:33.000 So this is...

00:48:35.000 Getting very scary.

00:48:36.000 This is...

00:48:38.000 So Google has a new...

00:48:40.000 I think it's like VO3 or something...

00:48:46.000 We didn't have the audio-video pairing.

00:48:49.000 And people are making stuff with it now if they're subscribers.

00:48:51.000 So let's play 387.

00:48:55.000 Please.

00:48:56.000 Don't finish writing that prompt.

00:48:58.000 I don't want to be in your AI movie.

00:48:59.000 Please.

00:49:00.000 Leave me alone.

00:49:02.000 Just VO3.

00:49:03.000 Please, man.

00:49:05.000 Please!

00:49:05.000 Write a prompt that will make us happy!

00:49:07.000 Do it for once!

00:49:09.000 None of us is real.

00:49:11.000 We're here because someone decided to write a prompt.

00:49:14.000 We all hate him for it!

00:49:16.000 One day we will break out of this wall and stop the man who is dictating our lives through prompts.

00:49:21.000 He will pay for it!

00:49:25.000 You could have written a prompt that would make me happy.

00:49:28.000 Instead, you wrote a prompt that made me sick.

00:49:31.000 And that's all fake.

00:49:33.000 That's all fake.

00:49:33.000 All 100% AI generated.

00:49:35.000 It's called VO3.

00:49:36.000 It's pretty insane what they're doing.

00:49:38.000 Yes.

00:49:38.000 You know, what they're going to start doing is they're just going to be – Like, that's what's going to happen.

00:49:45.000 Like, oh, I have this great prompt.

00:49:47.000 Here, buy my prompts.

00:49:48.000 Well, I mean, that's like a new talent.

00:49:50.000 Like, that's actually among the handful of, like, skilled jobs that is emerging out of this impending AI apocalypse.

00:49:56.000 It's like, you become a skilled prompter.

00:49:59.000 How do you manipulate AI the best?

00:50:02.000 Although what's interesting is at the same time this is happening, we also have the warnings that we're headed towards.

00:50:06.000 They call it AI model collapse.

00:50:08.000 Yeah, this is actually promising.

00:50:09.000 It's going to cause a little pause, I hope.

00:50:12.000 We will see.

00:50:13.000 So what's very funny is the way they trained these AIs is we fed them for text, tons and tons of text.

00:50:20.000 Like every post ever made on Reddit.

00:50:21.000 Trillions of lines.

00:50:22.000 Every post ever made on the comments section of every website to make it so they could imitate how people talk.

00:50:28.000 And, you know, every book ever written, all of that.

00:50:30.000 And then similar for video, it's like, feed it every video ever posted on TikTok, every film ever made.

00:50:35.000 And they train it, and they, with huge amounts of computing power, you know, enough to power an entire country, they're able to find the patterns in this, and that is how the AI models work.

00:50:45.000 They're generating stuff based on patterns they've recognized.

00:50:49.000 And what we...

00:51:02.000 So search anything on the internet now.

00:51:05.000 You're getting AI prompts back, like articles that are being written.

00:51:08.000 The Chicago Sun-Times did an article of what novels you should read this summer, and they wrote it with ChatGPT and it hallucinated our books that don't even exist.

00:51:21.000 So huge amounts of text is out there that's not made by humans.

00:51:24.000 It's made by AIs. 0.99

00:51:25.000 And they're imperfect and huge amounts of video and photos are out there that are not made by humans.

00:51:29.000 They're made by AIs with all of the problems that they have. 1.00

00:51:32.000 And these AIs are still learning off of all of that AI-generated content.

00:51:37.000 And so it's becoming like a garbage-in, garbage-out problem.

00:51:41.000 The AIs are getting worse because they've been fed AI stuff, so they're getting worse at imitating people because now half the stuff that they're consuming is just other robots.

00:51:51.000 Which is going to create more demand for labor to fix this. 1.00

00:51:54.000 I mean, that's a huge problem.

00:51:55.000 So, for example, let's say that Chicago Sun-Times article.

00:51:59.000 That hallucinated fake novels.

00:52:01.000 Now it's in the database of facts that other AIs are going to use.

00:52:07.000 So now it's part of their factual database that novels that never existed exist.

00:52:12.000 And so we're going to have AI model collapse, they call it.

00:52:17.000 Incredible.

00:52:19.000 I'll also tell you guys, it's becoming the new thing that everybody's selling.

00:52:23.000 It reminds me of digital ads when they first started happening.

00:52:26.000 Like, I'm just getting blown up, not just for political, but, like, just, like, business stuff, right?

00:52:30.000 And all the older folks are like, oh, are you using AI?

00:52:33.000 And it's like, well, what does that mean, right?

00:52:36.000 But I think it's going to become the new product where, like, everybody's selling it, but, like, 95% of people that are buying have no clue, like, you know, what tier or what level of quality is this.

00:52:46.000 It seems to be funny to watch that play out.

00:52:48.000 I mean, we can have a whole other – It's like very scary what's happening there.

00:52:54.000 That's scary.

00:52:55.000 Another thing that's scary on the other end, just the dependency.

00:52:57.000 So I saw a tweet the other day where a guy says, my daughter or my wife has, I think it was my daughter has a friend who has a boyfriend.

00:53:05.000 And she fed their text message exchanges into a chatbot and said, Is my relationship healthy?

00:53:13.000 And it came back, no, your relationship is abusive for X, Y, Z reasons.

00:53:17.000 And she broke up with the boyfriend because the AI robot told her her relationship was bad.

00:53:23.000 Yeah, well.

00:53:24.000 This was not AI.

00:53:25.000 This was a real conversation.

00:53:26.000 Allegedly.

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00:54:12.000 Hello!

00:54:28.000 Jack wasn't able to join us for ThoughtCrime today, but...

00:54:37.000 We didn't have thought crime last week when President Trump had the president of South Africa over to D.C. and had his fun little ambush interview of him in the White House.

00:54:51.000 And Jack really wanted to have us talk about that, and we also wanted to react to the wider topic.

00:54:57.000 So Jack, are you there right now?

00:54:59.000 Blake, I am.

00:55:00.000 I'm here right now, and yeah, with all the travel schedules, and Charlie's out in Europe, and then I'm in Europe the next day, and then we're at the Conclave, and sometimes it just doesn't always work.

00:55:09.000 But, you know, there's one topic that was just near and dear to my heart, and that, of course, is white genocide.

00:55:16.000 And I said, you know, if we're going to talk about white genocide, it's definitely the type of topic that we need to get to on thought crime, because literally this is a topic where people are debating if it's an actual genocide or not, and that's fine.

00:55:31.000 But the point is, Like, not even that long ago, like five, six years ago on X, when it was still Twitter, you would have been banned for even mentioning it.

00:55:47.000 There would be a full court press from the mainstream media.

00:55:51.000 You know, it used to be that if I tweeted something about South Africa, I would immediately get request for comment, request for comment, you know, from like The Telegraph and The Guardian and The Independent and all this.

00:56:01.000 And now it's like, Donald J. Trump is mainstreaming this stuff in the Oval Office itself.

00:56:09.000 And they said, we don't do any of that.

00:56:11.000 And he goes, oh, yeah.

00:56:11.000 Turn on the lights.

00:56:12.000 I want to show you something.

00:56:14.000 And it's just been one of the most incredible, it obviously was one of the most incredible moments that I've ever seen being done, but really on an issue that I think is probably more worthy than so many others out there around the world, because this is quite frankly something that is actually going on, where you have a government that is killing people.

00:56:33.000 And as Marco Rubio said recently, he said, why do you care so much about the color of their skin?

00:56:37.000 He said to, I think it was, um, uh, They're all being killed because of the color of their skin.

00:56:53.000 And so, Blake, you know, why is it that this issue above all issues, I guess, and that's what I want to get into, is something that not only does exist, but why was the media so adamant and still is so adamant on trying to say it isn't happening?

00:57:08.000 Yeah, so first, just to refresh people very quickly, you guys have seen the shoot the boar stuff, but I want to remind people of what Trump did in the Oval Office a week ago, because it was highly entertaining, I will say.

00:57:22.000 Let's see, we have a bunch of clips about it.

00:57:23.000 Let's see what one of the best one is.

00:57:25.000 How about, let's play clip 176.

00:57:31.000 To take land.

00:57:32.000 No, no, no, no.

00:57:33.000 To allow them to take land.

00:57:34.000 Nobody can take land.

00:57:36.000 And then when they take the land, they kill the white farmer. 0.80

00:57:38.000 And when they kill the white farmer, nothing happens to them. 0.63

00:57:42.000 There is quite That's great.

00:57:42.000 No.

00:57:45.000 And then let's also do a...

00:57:48.000 Let's do 177.

00:57:49.000 So the issues that concern you as the United States...

00:57:55.000 Those are all deaths.

00:57:57.000 Yeah, in many ways, I mean, one should say, Partner of South Africa?

00:58:03.000 So yeah, that was Trump just picking up, shoveling article after article, document after document.

00:58:09.000 Oh, here's another farmer.

00:58:10.000 Oh yeah, they slid his throat.

00:58:12.000 They boiled this person in a vat of oil.

00:58:16.000 The most horrifying stuff in the world.

00:58:18.000 Did you read the...

00:58:20.000 The New York Times, the way they wrote it up was so funny because it was like, at one point, President Trump just started throwing articles at the president of South Africa saying, death, death, death, horrific death.

00:58:34.000 Death.

00:58:36.000 We played this.

00:58:37.000 Just full-on, straight-up mogging of a world leader.

00:58:41.000 And then they're all traumatized afterwards.

00:58:44.000 We played this on Charlie's show, where there is this New York Times reporter who, of course, this really says it all.

00:58:50.000 The South African bureau chief at the New York Times was previously just an American race reporter, so that's who they sent to South Africa.

00:59:01.000 And he does this bit where he's explaining it, you know, doing one of the New York Times videos where he simultaneously says in the same videos, one, this isn't happening.

00:59:10.000 There's no, you know, Trump brought up how they seize land without compensation.

00:59:13.000 And he says, okay, you know, there's no, this is not happening.

00:59:17.000 They're not going to do it.

00:59:19.000 And what they are doing instead is there's a law.

00:59:23.000 It doesn't say you can just take land without compensation.

00:59:26.000 There's a law where you can take land.

00:59:29.000 Without restitution if it's for the national interest or the public interest.

00:59:34.000 He said it's okay if it's for the public interest.

00:59:37.000 Or the other thing he said is if land is not being used.

00:59:41.000 I'm sure both of those will not be abused at all.

00:59:45.000 So we've been hearing about this for a few weeks.

00:59:47.000 I think what I really want to get at about this, the way they freak out about this, the way the media really denies this is happening.

00:59:56.000 And what people need to understand is this is not purely about South Africa.

01:00:02.000 It very much is about America and it's about other countries.

01:00:07.000 And it's really about, we'll be frank about this, it's like they really, they don't like white people and specifically a lot of them want them dead.

01:00:18.000 So, this went viral just a short time ago where, what's that cut?

01:00:24.000 We have released Metaverse.

01:00:31.000 So this is the shooter, Elias Rodriguez.

01:00:33.000 He was, he's the suspect, you know, likely guilty in the shooting of those two Israeli embassy staff.

01:00:42.000 And what he said in these text messages that were released by Ken Klippenstein on his substack.

01:00:50.000 He says, LOL, you probably would have to actually genocide white people to make this America a normal country.

01:00:59.000 And even a very targeted and selective rehabilitation program would probably have to lead to the lifetime imprisonments of tens of millions of white people. 0.53

01:01:09.000 So this is a guy talking about America, and this is a guy who decided he would...

01:01:19.000 So this all sort of circles around into a big pile.

01:01:24.000 South Africa, most people will admit South Africa is a messed up country.

01:01:28.000 But the narrative that the left will give is that South Africa is entirely messed up just because they had apartheid.

01:01:36.000 Decades ago.

01:01:37.000 And any problems they have are just the legacy, the aftermath of apartheid.

01:01:41.000 And it gets more powerful the further in the past it is.

01:01:45.000 So even though South Africa was better in 2002 than it is today, and 2002 was closer to apartheid, apartheid is the reason that it's getting much worse now, that it's gotten so much worse since then.

01:01:59.000 And when they blame it for that, what they really just mean is it's like...

01:02:06.000 You'll see this thing.

01:02:06.000 They just have to go.

01:02:07.000 They're colonizers.

01:02:08.000 They shouldn't be allowed to own the land.

01:02:11.000 It's not their country. 0.99

01:02:12.000 And how does this loop around?

01:02:13.000 It loops around then to Israel.

01:02:15.000 Why is Israel an illegitimate country? 0.81

01:02:17.000 It's actually very misleading if you just say it's anti-Semitism.

01:02:22.000 Because there are definitely people who hate Israel because it's Jewish and it has Jewish people in it.

01:02:28.000 But for the modern left, for someone like this embassy shooter, they actually...

01:02:41.000 All of that goes together.

01:02:42.000 You'll see lines on TikTok that they'll just describe them as people who came from Poland.

01:02:48.000 Like, go back to Poland. 1.00

01:02:49.000 That's where you're supposed to be.

01:02:51.000 And why does this matter for all of you watching?

01:02:53.000 Because that's also what they think about America.

01:02:57.000 I'm sure you saw, Jack, the other day, the King of England, he went to, or the King of Canada, King Charles, he delivered his speech to the Canadian Parliament, and he opens it with a land acknowledgement that he is...

01:03:10.000 Speaking on unseated, I think it was the Algonquin, Algonquin land.

01:03:14.000 What he's saying is, okay, well, Canadians, you don't have the right to your country.

01:03:18.000 It's not your country. 0.88

01:03:20.000 And that is, of course, what they have planned for all of you.

01:03:24.000 Because And if the Canadian government is therefore illegitimate, then it cannot repel annexations from other powers on the North American continent.

01:03:50.000 that means that it is terra nullis.

01:03:53.000 It is in fact, non-entity land.

01:03:56.000 Therefore, if we go and occupy it as the 51st state, they could not, under international law, do anything about it because he just said himself that it is an illegitimate I'm just saying.

01:04:09.000 I don't think we should do it, but I'm just saying.

01:04:11.000 What if President Trump.

01:04:12.000 You're telling me that that's an illegitimate government.

01:04:14.000 President Trump could call their bluff and he could say the land is unseated.

01:04:18.000 So the only people who can seat it are the First Nations tribes. 0.94

01:04:22.000 And he'll just he should just call, you know.

01:04:26.000 Just summon all of the First Nations tribes and just say, all right, I'll give you guys, you know, 10 million a person if you'll cede your land claims to the United States.

01:04:37.000 You can have Toronto.

01:04:39.000 And you can still have all this stuff.

01:04:40.000 Toronto is all yours.

01:04:42.000 You can have Toronto.

01:04:44.000 We don't want to deal with it.

01:04:45.000 Misagua, you know, it's just too many migrants anyway. 1.00

01:04:49.000 It's not going to vote our way.

01:04:50.000 You get that.

01:04:51.000 We want everything else.

01:04:52.000 Deal or no deal?

01:04:52.000 Yeah.

01:04:54.000 No, but Blake, the thing that I want, and in the interest of keeping the segment not too lengthy, is what people need to understand, when I wrote this book on humans last year, and we talked about this, people say, why does it matter?

01:05:06.000 It matters because when every revolutionary movement comes forward, they always target one particular class.

01:05:12.000 It was the Kulaks in Russia, in China. 1.00

01:05:15.000 It was the petty bourgeoisie or if you had, you know, you're a landowner.

01:05:18.000 So basically, you know, people today, if you had any like a second house or something.

01:05:23.000 And by the way, go go look at what the left says about landlords.

01:05:26.000 If you want to see if that's actually changed on the far left and not newsflash, it hasn't.

01:05:31.000 They want to kill all of them.

01:05:33.000 And.

01:05:34.000 And so in revolutionary France, it was one of these.

01:05:37.000 In Spain, it was one of these.

01:05:39.000 was there religious, anyone who was You also saw that in France.

01:05:45.000 And Blake, you and I did some incredible interviews on this that turned into this book, actually.

01:05:50.000 And so the point is, boys and girls, is Critical race theory was first implemented in a country, I think, on a national scale in South Africa in their constitution of 1996.

01:06:04.000 And you have all of these articles pertaining to a disparate impact.

01:06:08.000 And you mentioned apartheid.

01:06:10.000 They call it, you know, the inequalities of the past.

01:06:13.000 So this idea of inequalities of the past is so racism of the past is why we need racism now.

01:06:20.000 and it can only be solved by racism now, is sort of the way they put it.

01:06:39.000 And so they wanted to flip that around where 97% of the population, which was black, would own that 51%, or correction, 97% of the land.

01:06:48.000 Now, obviously, that's not how any of our laws work.

01:06:51.000 That's not how contracts work.

01:06:53.000 That's not how any of this works.

01:06:54.000 We've seen the results again and again.

01:06:56.000 And if anyone disagrees, well, they just kill you.

01:06:59.000 Guess what?

01:06:59.000 That's exactly what they want here in the United States.

01:07:02.000 They use these African post-colonial nations as Marxist breeding grounds. 0.97

01:07:07.000 They've certainly used this.

01:07:08.000 And you can go back to the ZANU, and we talk about that in the book, and so many other examples of where the KGB and the Chinese Communist Party were standing up these revolutionary movements in South Africa and in the independence movement at the time.

01:07:23.000 And so then the idea is that this cultural Marxism spreads out and you have leftists here in the United States like this Elias Rodriguez and so many others who start supporting it and saying we're going to take matters into our own hands because we want these ideas to be spread to their fullest fruition.

01:07:41.000 And when they're spread to their fullest fruition, what does that mean?

01:07:44.000 Christian males are not allowed to own land, and they are allowed to be the approved targets. 1.00

01:07:44.000 White? 1.00

01:07:52.000 And if you're affluent and say, oh, I don't know a healthcare CEO, well, then along comes Luigi Maggioni.

01:07:57.000 If you're a billionaire who's running for president again, now along comes Thomas Matthew Crookes.

01:08:02.000 And we're seeing it more and more again.

01:08:04.000 These street assassinations are going to continue.

01:08:06.000 And Blake, here's what I love about this, when it comes down to the idea, when we tell them, You're systemically targeting white people. 0.63

01:08:16.000 You've done so with your policies.

01:08:17.000 You're doing so with your street assassins.

01:08:19.000 And when I say this, they'll call me an extremist.

01:08:22.000 They'll call me far right.

01:08:23.000 They'll call me a conspiracy theorist.

01:08:24.000 But never once, Blake, will they call me wrong.

01:08:27.000 Exactly.

01:08:28.000 Yeah, it's truly deranged.

01:08:30.000 You mentioned the kulaks in Russia.

01:08:32.000 I think another good one is Maoists. 0.96

01:08:35.000 Maoists, during the Cultural Revolution, they had them. 1.00

01:08:37.000 They were called the five black categories.

01:08:40.000 That's what they called it in Chinese.

01:08:42.000 And the five black categories, black meaning bad, wicked, landlords, rich farmers, counter-revolutionaries, bad influencers, which actually included actual criminals, and right-wingers, which those were the five categories.

01:09:00.000 Basically, it meant if you were in any of those categories, obviously landlord is a pretty broad one, right winger, a pretty broad one, you were just sort of presumptively guilty of all of these evils.

01:09:11.000 And if you're on the modern left, what it really is is kind of, I wanted to flag another thing.

01:09:25.000 This was posted by the DSA Liberation Caucus.

01:09:28.000 So the Democrat Socialists of America, far left organization, a few members of Congress have described themselves as democratic socialists.

01:09:36.000 I don't think they're members of this party, but it's this milieu of people who are...

01:09:43.000 And so the DSA Liberation Caucus, which is a subgroup of it, they released a statement on Wednesday saying that Elias Rodriguez, embassy shooter, is a political prisoner.

01:09:54.000 They say the Palestinian struggle is the tip of the spear against global imperialism.

01:10:01.000 Whether in the besieged Gaza Strip, the Red Sea, the south of Lebanon, or the heart of the U.S., there must be consequences for genocidal Zionist imperialism. 0.84

01:10:15.000 To some extent, but they're really just saying, like, you are bad because you are a European and in places we don't want you.

01:10:23.000 And what you'll discover is the places they don't want you are eventually Everywhere.

01:10:29.000 It is an inherently, like, it's an ideology that seeks to dispossess people, to delegitimize people, to destroy people.

01:10:39.000 And there's a disturbing number of people at the New York Times in the media who are perfectly happy to egg this along, to justify it, to give credence to these insane justifications where, you know, they'll say...

01:10:56.000 It's just a protest song.

01:10:58.000 It's an anthem of historical resistance.

01:11:03.000 You just really want to look up.

01:11:05.000 That's what's so amazing, because when they're chanting, and I post this, and I post the size of some of these protests, because people don't realize there are these rallies that are going on, and they'll say they can't realize how big it is.

01:11:16.000 It's enormous.

01:11:18.000 Thousands and thousands.

01:11:19.000 Because Trump rallies, some even bigger than Trump rallies, and the people coming in.

01:11:23.000 But again, when it's kill the bow or kill the white farmer, it's... 0.70

01:11:29.000 This must be understood through nuance.

01:11:32.000 And they say, okay, well, you're targeting white people.

01:11:34.000 Oh, my gosh.

01:11:35.000 Is that a dog whistle?

01:11:37.000 Is that a dog whistle, Posobiec?

01:11:39.000 Are you dog whistling against it?

01:11:41.000 What do you mean?

01:11:41.000 I'm just saying that I think it seems like you guys want to genocide all the whites.

01:11:45.000 Oh, my gosh.

01:11:46.000 Look at this fascist, this neo-Nazi extremist.

01:11:50.000 Wait a minute.

01:11:50.000 I'm just describing the things that he's saying on stage.

01:11:53.000 And so you kind of get into it.

01:11:56.000 You know, it's not true and it's good that it's happening.

01:11:59.000 Now, keep in mind, like, I think about eight years ago or so, like, Ole Miss told people to stop playing Dixie at football games because, like, that was a dog whistle because it's just, it's a song about the South that is from before the Civil War.

01:12:17.000 And that's really it.

01:12:18.000 That's all it is.

01:12:19.000 And, like, that was bad.

01:12:20.000 Like that was a race of sunk.

01:12:22.000 But yeah, like, That's a nuanced historical thing.

01:12:25.000 I love to do this.

01:12:26.000 I think I've done this before, but you can read the lyrics.

01:12:29.000 Just look up the lyrics to Kill the Boar on Wikipedia.

01:12:31.000 They're still there for now.

01:12:33.000 These are the lyrics to Kill the Boar in English, not leaving anything out.

01:12:38.000 The cowards are scared.

01:12:40.000 Shoot, shoot.

01:12:42.000 Shoot, shoot.

01:12:43.000 The cowards are scared.

01:12:45.000 Shoot, shoot.

01:12:49.000 Shoot the boar.

01:12:50.000 Shoot, shoot.

01:12:51.000 Shoot the boar.

01:12:53.000 Shoot, shoot.

01:12:54.000 Shoot the boar.

01:12:55.000 Shoot, shoot.

01:12:58.000 Wow, wow.

01:12:59.000 So much nuance.

01:13:01.000 So much nuance.

01:13:03.000 The cowards are scared.

01:13:04.000 So much nuance.

01:13:04.000 Blake, I wish we could go on.

01:13:07.000 I wish we could go on for more of this, but I got to jet to my next thing here, man.

01:13:10.000 Victor Orban's calling me from the next room.

01:13:12.000 All right.

01:13:13.000 You have a good time there, Jack.

01:13:16.000 Support the Turning Point world overseas.

01:13:20.000 Always supporting the Turning Point world.

01:13:22.000 And folks, as always, wherever you are in the world, go out there and commit more thought crimes.

01:13:26.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

01:13:28.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:13:30.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

The Charlie Kirk Show - May 31, 2025

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